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S1: where we dive into the latest in the world of

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S1: pop culture and entertainment. Osman Farooqui is on leave, but

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S1: I'm joined, as always by fan favourite Thomas Mitchell. Thomas

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S1: only at the end of the year. Now how would

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S2: My email, as they say in Spanish, which means very bad.

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S1: Very good. Well, from Prince Harry's spear to Bob and

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S1: 2023 was not a big year for you, but it

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S1: a big year for you. I believe you had a baby.

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S1: Did you have a baby? Yeah. Um, but in this episode,

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S1: we're going to share some of our favorite TV shows, films,

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S1: the drop in this iteration together. Succession. The fourth season

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S2: And I would also probably shout out, um, and, you know,

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S8: No, but it was great.

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S1: Yeah. Somehow they managed to really make the family values

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S2: And Brooklyn is one of my favorite photographers.

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S2: And for a while it seemed like no one knew

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S2: And it was kind of like, bang on. Really.

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S8: Yeah. It was.

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S1: And so that's obviously impacted us. But I don't think

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S8: Yeah. I think that's.

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S2: that's another eat the rich thing. But I don't think

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S2: it was. But also like it was bad.

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S1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

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S2: So anyway that's that.

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S8: Sorry, guys.

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S1: Um, well, look, we could talk about TV all day,

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S2: I personally can't wait for books.

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S1: I'm saving that till the end. The best to last.

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S1: Making people listen so that we could get to the book. Podcast? Yes.

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S8: Delayed gratification.

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S1: Let's move on to films, you and I. We saw

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S1: pretty much every film together this year, as we've discussed

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S1: frequently a lot about your film going identity. Any regrets,

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S2: About the year in film, or about my personal experiences

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S2: in going to the movies?

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S8: Your personal.

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S1: Experiences?

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S8: Uh, we did.

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S2: See a lot of movies together. Um, lots of different,

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S2: like times of the day and night. Uh, I feel

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S2: like you have painted a picture of me to the

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S2: public that I'm just, like, this kind of gluttonous pig

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S2: that gets to the movies and then, like, just hoards

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S2: all my snacks, and then you're like, grazers. Um, so

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S2: that makes me sad, but I've enjoyed it. I've really

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S2: enjoyed seeing movies with you. It's a funny thing to

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S2: go to a movie with someone you like. I feel

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S2: like you learn, you know a lot about them as

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S2: you have also experienced, and I think you're a very good.

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S2: You're like a little quiet mouse.

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S8: Oh. Thank you.

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S1: Just who you want to go to the movies with?

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S8: It's better than, you know, whatever you think of it. Alternative.

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S1: The elephant we spent so much time talking about, like, analyzing,

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S1: going to the movies. I don't know if other people

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S1: find it as interesting as.

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S8: I mean, we'll have to.

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S2: We'll probably find out in the comments.

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S1: But some of the movies we did see Barbie, the

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S1: So even though I want to have a quick chat

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S1: some of the big films Aquaman, Disney's Wish, Yorgos Lanthimos

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S1: your most anticipated film of the year. You're like a

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S1: one man pass of this, anyone but you, um, starring.

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S8: Sydney Sweeney.

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S1: Sydney and Sydney. And she's coming to Sydney for it.

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S22: Let's just tell everyone we're together. What?

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S23: It could be kind of fun.

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S24: There's no way we can convince anyone we actually like

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S24: each other. La la la.

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S23: La. Trust me. We're at a wedding a million miles

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S23: away from home. Who knows what could have done?

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S2: Yes. Anyone but you. And, I mean, they don't really

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S2: would say, like, you know, it comes out on Boxing Day,

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S2: been so much like rumour and conjecture about the lead star,

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S2: Sydney Sweeney and Glen Powell. I have my own theories

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S2: on that, obviously, because Glen Powell is boring. Um.

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S8: That's the theory, but that's the theory.

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S2: But I think he does.

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S1: Look like an AI generated Hollywood leading man. He does

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S8: Yeah.

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S2: Ryan Gosling from.

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S8: Wish. Yeah, I think that.

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S2: I actually think the movie will be really good though. Like,

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S2: because you're like, it'll be like a dumb romcom, but

451
00:19:33,100 --> 00:19:35,889
S2: I actually think it'll be quite funny and they obviously

452
00:19:35,890 --> 00:19:39,580
S2: have like a decent chemistry. I'm like cautiously optimistic.

453
00:19:39,820 --> 00:19:43,149
S1: The trailer kind of alarmed me for that. Like, I

454
00:19:43,150 --> 00:19:45,580
S1: thought the trailer maybe looked a bit too lame, but

455
00:19:45,580 --> 00:19:47,560
S1: I'm really excited to see it. And so we know

456
00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,179
S1: that will probably be our favorite movie of the year.

457
00:19:49,180 --> 00:19:52,750
S1: But from the ones we have seen already, what is

458
00:19:52,750 --> 00:19:54,970
S1: your pick 2023 movie of the year?

459
00:19:55,150 --> 00:19:57,399
S2: Yeah, it's a big shot. Uh, there was obviously a

460
00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,710
S2: lot going on, and we all kind of like rode

461
00:19:59,710 --> 00:20:02,290
S2: the wave of the Barb and Hymer kind of phenomenon,

462
00:20:02,290 --> 00:20:05,080
S2: which was also really fun. Like, I know this isn't

463
00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:06,369
S2: the question you asked me, but I'm just going to

464
00:20:06,369 --> 00:20:09,790
S2: say this. I think there should be more like tandem releases.

465
00:20:09,790 --> 00:20:12,490
S2: It's it was a fun way to get excited for like,

466
00:20:12,490 --> 00:20:15,070
S2: cinema culture. But anyway, on that note, I would say

467
00:20:15,070 --> 00:20:16,720
S2: probably Oppenheimer is my film of the year.

468
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:17,230
S8: Yeah, I was.

469
00:20:17,230 --> 00:20:18,490
S1: Going to say that as well.

470
00:20:18,580 --> 00:20:23,379
UU: I know what it means if the Nazis have a bomb.

471
00:20:27,090 --> 00:20:29,820
S25: Have a 12 month head start. 18. How could you

472
00:20:29,820 --> 00:20:30,930
S25: possibly know that?

473
00:20:32,500 --> 00:20:37,210
S26: We've got one hope all. America's industrial IoT and scientific

474
00:20:37,210 --> 00:20:44,270
S26: innovation connected here. The secret laboratory. Keep everyone there until

475
00:20:44,270 --> 00:20:44,780
S26: it's dark.

476
00:20:47,740 --> 00:20:49,180
UU: Let's go recruit some scientists.

477
00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,190
S2: Obviously, it's been again nominated for a bunch of awards.

478
00:20:54,190 --> 00:20:57,700
S2: It came out in tandem with Barbie, which was amazing too.

479
00:20:57,700 --> 00:21:01,750
S2: But I just think Oppenheimer as a story, as an

480
00:21:01,750 --> 00:21:05,830
S2: execution by Christopher Nolan, performances like it all just came

481
00:21:05,830 --> 00:21:08,980
S2: together so well. And I sense like we can we

482
00:21:08,980 --> 00:21:10,720
S2: saw this together and we saw it at night, which

483
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,910
S2: was tough because I think we'd seen Barbie the night before.

484
00:21:12,910 --> 00:21:15,760
S2: I was very sleepy. Um, but I've since rewatched it

485
00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,420
S2: and it's. Yeah, it really is an incredible film. I

486
00:21:19,420 --> 00:21:22,689
S2: love Nolan anyway, but it ticks every box for me

487
00:21:22,690 --> 00:21:24,340
S2: for like, what I like about going to the movies.

488
00:21:24,340 --> 00:21:26,680
S2: And yeah, I would say that's my film of the year.

489
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,090
S1: Yeah, I reckon so. And I think a lot of

490
00:21:28,090 --> 00:21:29,680
S1: the films that we talked about earlier in the year,

491
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,230
S1: which had their US kind of summer release, are now

492
00:21:32,230 --> 00:21:35,710
S1: available on streamers, Oppenheimer killers, Flower Moon Barbie. So I've

493
00:21:35,710 --> 00:21:37,870
S1: have gone back and watch them all. And Oppenheimer by

494
00:21:37,869 --> 00:21:42,340
S1: far was my favorite. Like just kind of pacey, punchy,

495
00:21:42,340 --> 00:21:46,629
S1: incredible performances from Cillian Murphy and the whole cast really.

496
00:21:46,630 --> 00:21:48,220
S2: It's funny though, because we're obviously at the end of

497
00:21:48,220 --> 00:21:50,530
S2: the year and there are so many like best of lists,

498
00:21:50,530 --> 00:21:53,410
S2: like what we're doing. But like I was reading through

499
00:21:53,410 --> 00:21:56,109
S2: them recently and like very few are putting Barbie in

500
00:21:56,109 --> 00:21:58,930
S2: like the top three. Even like lots of Oppenheimer, lots

501
00:21:58,930 --> 00:22:01,180
S2: of killers, I don't know, is that unfair on Barbie?

502
00:22:01,750 --> 00:22:04,810
S1: Maybe slightly. And I wonder if the popular hype around

503
00:22:04,810 --> 00:22:07,090
S1: it is why kind of critics are turning their nose

504
00:22:07,090 --> 00:22:08,860
S1: up at it in a way. And I don't think

505
00:22:08,859 --> 00:22:12,520
S1: that's kind of an unsurprising response to a film that's

506
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,750
S1: so much about girlhood and womanhood, when we still have

507
00:22:16,750 --> 00:22:19,180
S1: a kind of critical industry that's dominated by a certain

508
00:22:19,180 --> 00:22:21,609
S1: kind of filmmakers and certain kind of critics. Not that

509
00:22:21,609 --> 00:22:24,340
S1: that's changing, but the fact that there was such big

510
00:22:24,340 --> 00:22:28,060
S1: love from this, particularly from young, younger people, like, doesn't

511
00:22:28,060 --> 00:22:30,730
S1: surprise me. I definitely still put it on the list

512
00:22:30,730 --> 00:22:32,919
S1: of top ten films of the year. Hey, Barbie.

513
00:22:34,830 --> 00:22:36,840
S7: Can I come to your house tonight? Sure.

514
00:22:37,530 --> 00:22:39,659
S27: I don't have anything big planned. Just a giant blowout

515
00:22:39,660 --> 00:22:41,850
S27: party with all the Barbies and planned choreography and a

516
00:22:41,850 --> 00:22:43,470
S27: bespoke song. You should stop by.

517
00:22:43,590 --> 00:22:44,340
S28: So cool.

518
00:22:44,490 --> 00:22:49,590
UU: You can find me under the lights. Diamonds under my eyes.

519
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,199
S27: It's the best day ever. It is the best day ever.

520
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,119
S27: So is yesterday. And so is tomorrow.

521
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,790
UU: And every day from now until forever. Okay. Great. You

522
00:22:57,790 --> 00:22:59,139
UU: guys ever think about dying?

523
00:23:03,210 --> 00:23:04,379
S29: When my heart.

524
00:23:04,380 --> 00:23:08,189
S1: Breaks. Would you put fair play on there? Because I

525
00:23:08,190 --> 00:23:10,260
S1: was considering whether I'd put that, and I reckon maybe

526
00:23:10,260 --> 00:23:12,210
S1: I would put it in top ten. Not in the

527
00:23:12,210 --> 00:23:12,780
S1: top five.

528
00:23:12,900 --> 00:23:13,439
S8: Yeah, I put.

529
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:14,910
S2: It in top ten for sure. I think fair play

530
00:23:14,910 --> 00:23:17,459
S2: was like really surprising. Um, I think it's cool. And

531
00:23:17,460 --> 00:23:19,919
S2: Netflix just like drops these movies on there and you know,

532
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,540
S2: you haven't heard too much about them. I thought it

533
00:23:21,540 --> 00:23:26,550
S2: was really interesting, like. Kind of relationship dynamic and exploration

534
00:23:26,550 --> 00:23:27,390
S2: of power.

535
00:23:27,570 --> 00:23:28,800
S30: He's promoting me.

536
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:36,070
S31: Congratulations. I'm sorry. Why? I'm so happy for you. Okay.

537
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,520
S31: Wonder how she got the Fastpass reporting to her. Jesus, man.

538
00:23:45,230 --> 00:23:45,920
S23: Look into this.

539
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:46,790
S32: Let me know what you think.

540
00:23:46,820 --> 00:23:48,710
S31: I'm still working on the three from before.

541
00:23:48,740 --> 00:23:54,180
S32: Okay, I'll make this one the priority. Can I buy another?

542
00:23:54,660 --> 00:23:56,040
S31: Now that you're making more money than me.

543
00:23:58,230 --> 00:24:00,000
S2: The fact that you've got this couple that works in

544
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,090
S2: such a stressful, you know, hedge fund industry, so competitive

545
00:24:03,090 --> 00:24:04,500
S2: and then, you know, you put them in the same

546
00:24:04,500 --> 00:24:08,070
S2: workplace and watching that unfold, it actually is very I

547
00:24:08,070 --> 00:24:09,690
S2: don't know, maybe I liked it because I have lots

548
00:24:09,690 --> 00:24:11,760
S2: of friends in that position that lots of my friends

549
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,620
S2: are kind of might be in the same industry or whatever.

550
00:24:13,619 --> 00:24:15,540
S2: I thought it was great. And again, I thought the

551
00:24:15,540 --> 00:24:16,710
S2: performances were really good.

552
00:24:16,710 --> 00:24:17,160
S8: Yeah.

553
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,619
S1: Anything else you want to shout out from 2023?

554
00:24:19,619 --> 00:24:22,740
S2: Yes, I do have one. Uh, a little known film

555
00:24:22,740 --> 00:24:23,700
S2: called maestro.

556
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,409
S8: Oh, yes. Okay.

557
00:24:25,410 --> 00:24:26,220
S1: I haven't seen this yet.

558
00:24:26,220 --> 00:24:27,840
S2: I'm fresh from seeing it, so I'm like being in

559
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:28,709
S2: the maestro hype.

560
00:24:32,230 --> 00:24:35,129
UU: I love people so much that. It's hard for me

561
00:24:35,130 --> 00:24:38,540
UU: to be alone. A music.

562
00:24:39,270 --> 00:24:40,619
S33: It keeps me glued to life.

563
00:24:43,990 --> 00:24:50,320
S34: If you know how much you need me to. Bye bye.

564
00:24:52,780 --> 00:24:54,340
S34: If someone doesn't sing, you.

565
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:56,150
UU: And nothing seems.

566
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:09,530
S34: And if nothing seems anything. And you can't make music.

567
00:25:11,780 --> 00:25:14,720
S2: Look, we're at the very end of the year. Could

568
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,570
S2: be up there with one of the films of the year. Okay,

569
00:25:17,570 --> 00:25:20,030
S2: Bradley Cooper, I must say, for the guy that's like,

570
00:25:20,030 --> 00:25:23,570
S2: fucking really good looking and and like, he's just like,

571
00:25:23,570 --> 00:25:25,160
S2: how many skills does this guy need to have? Yeah.

572
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,980
S2: He's like, so hot. He's such a good director and

573
00:25:27,980 --> 00:25:30,350
S2: he's amazing in this, like he did. You know A

574
00:25:30,350 --> 00:25:32,000
S2: Star Is Born in 2018. Yeah. He can.

575
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:32,480
S8: Sing too.

576
00:25:32,510 --> 00:25:34,820
S2: He can sing too. Yeah, in the shower.

577
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,880
S8: Thank you. Um, but, you know, that was like 2018.

578
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,710
S2: I think everyone was like, okay, that's a pretty good effort. Like,

579
00:25:39,710 --> 00:25:42,140
S2: you know, it was nominated for a bunch of Oscars.

580
00:25:42,140 --> 00:25:45,380
S2: He didn't get Best Director. Obviously. He's now done maestro,

581
00:25:45,380 --> 00:25:48,470
S2: which is about the famous composer Leonard Bernstein. Um, you know,

582
00:25:48,470 --> 00:25:50,899
S2: it it opens with his kind of the end of

583
00:25:50,900 --> 00:25:53,359
S2: his life and then cuts between, like, the 1940s and

584
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,030
S2: 80s and looks at his relationship. You know, obviously he

585
00:25:56,030 --> 00:25:59,390
S2: was a famous composer who had relationships with men and women. And,

586
00:25:59,390 --> 00:26:01,940
S2: you know, you've got Carey Mulligan, who in the best

587
00:26:01,940 --> 00:26:05,959
S2: film she's done since Saltburn. Um, but like it, it

588
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,929
S2: really is shocking how talented I think Cooper is. And

589
00:26:08,930 --> 00:26:11,240
S2: I'll be, like, amazed if he doesn't get nominated for

590
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,790
S2: best director for this. Yeah. And so that's another one

591
00:26:13,790 --> 00:26:16,160
S2: that's like obviously at cinemas now and coming to Netflix

592
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,250
S2: I think December 20th. Uh, yeah, I think I mean,

593
00:26:19,250 --> 00:26:21,050
S2: this is not a surprise. Maestro has been heavily hyped,

594
00:26:21,050 --> 00:26:23,090
S2: but it definitely lives up to expectations for me.

595
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:23,420
S8: Do you think.

596
00:26:23,420 --> 00:26:24,590
S1: You need to go and say it in the cinema

597
00:26:24,590 --> 00:26:26,630
S1: or waiting for till home time is?

598
00:26:26,630 --> 00:26:28,790
S2: I don't I don't think it's like an absolute must

599
00:26:28,790 --> 00:26:31,460
S2: like an Oppenheimer for the cinema. Um, but yeah, it'd

600
00:26:31,490 --> 00:26:35,120
S2: be so funny if like that is another like how many, uh, like,

601
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,480
S2: conductor films we've had like to. And now maestro, like,

602
00:26:38,570 --> 00:26:40,790
S2: is there any other famous conductors? Like who?

603
00:26:40,820 --> 00:26:44,990
S8: Who's this? Yeah. That's true. That's. Yeah.

604
00:26:44,990 --> 00:26:46,790
S1: You're right. You've discovered a trend conductor.

605
00:26:46,820 --> 00:26:48,320
S2: But yes, I feel like I know your other one

606
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,450
S2: because I was really wanting to see it. And you've

607
00:26:50,450 --> 00:26:52,639
S2: already raved about it previously on this pod.

608
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:53,870
S1: Oh. Past lives.

609
00:26:54,020 --> 00:26:59,480
S35: What a good story this is. Childhood sweethearts who reconnect

610
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,300
S35: 20 years later and realize they were meant for each other.

611
00:27:02,930 --> 00:27:04,970
S35: And the story. I would be the evil white American

612
00:27:04,970 --> 00:27:07,580
S35: husband standing in the way of destiny.

613
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,390
S23: Shut up. He's just this kid in my head for

614
00:27:11,390 --> 00:27:14,149
S23: such a long time. I think you just missed him.

615
00:27:14,450 --> 00:27:15,320
S35: Did he miss you?

616
00:27:17,990 --> 00:27:21,860
S1: Hands on. Yes. Celine. Songs past lives. We have talked

617
00:27:21,859 --> 00:27:23,120
S1: about it a fair bit, so I won't go into

618
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,800
S1: too much detail, but I do think it's one of

619
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,980
S1: the most beautiful films to about two childhood friends who

620
00:27:27,980 --> 00:27:30,920
S1: kind of their story over 24 years. It's about things

621
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,320
S1: you don't say, the things you do say love lost,

622
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,490
S1: love found. It's beautiful, quiet, sensitive film. The one I

623
00:27:37,490 --> 00:27:39,979
S1: reckon will be if I was to think about future

624
00:27:39,980 --> 00:27:42,320
S1: me like post Boxing Day. Me the film.

625
00:27:42,470 --> 00:27:42,980
S8: Post boxes.

626
00:27:42,980 --> 00:27:43,609
S2: Are you look like.

627
00:27:43,609 --> 00:27:44,149
S8: Exactly.

628
00:27:44,300 --> 00:27:48,830
S1: Just watching the cricket. No. The one I think I

629
00:27:48,830 --> 00:27:52,580
S1: will probably love most is you got the mosses. Poor things.

630
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,630
S9: I am Bella Baxter and there is a world to

631
00:27:56,630 --> 00:28:01,129
S9: enjoy circumnavigate. It is the goal of all to progress, grow.

632
00:28:01,369 --> 00:28:05,960
S34: A woman plotting her course to freedom. How delightful.

633
00:28:10,700 --> 00:28:13,970
S1: Emma Stone. Mark Ruffalo is getting sensational reviews. I love

634
00:28:13,970 --> 00:28:17,900
S1: absolutely everything he does. The favourite, one of my favourite films. Um,

635
00:28:17,900 --> 00:28:20,690
S1: The Lobster I think he's a brilliant director. I love

636
00:28:20,690 --> 00:28:23,060
S1: the comedy and the style. Uh, he works with the

637
00:28:23,060 --> 00:28:24,709
S1: same actors quite a bit, like he's kind of got

638
00:28:24,710 --> 00:28:27,800
S1: the same shtick with them. So I'm really excited to see.

639
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:28,220
S8: Yeah, I think.

640
00:28:28,220 --> 00:28:30,650
S2: Ramy Youssef is in that, um, and I love him.

641
00:28:30,650 --> 00:28:33,710
S2: So yeah, I'm excited for that. It's got a stellar cast.

642
00:28:42,350 --> 00:28:44,960
S1: Okay, let's move on to the music front. We've seen

643
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,110
S1: Taylor Swift named Spotifys top artist of the year. Who

644
00:28:48,110 --> 00:28:49,520
S1: was your top artist of the year?

645
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:54,020
S2: Uh huh. Mine was really surprising. I think it was

646
00:28:54,020 --> 00:28:55,610
S2: a bit influenced by work this year.

647
00:28:55,610 --> 00:28:56,300
S8: Okay.

648
00:28:56,450 --> 00:29:01,370
S2: I'm kind of intrigued now. Yeah, well, it was Luke Combs.

649
00:29:01,370 --> 00:29:04,940
S8: Oh, he wasn't influenced by him? No. Well, it was because.

650
00:29:05,330 --> 00:29:07,490
S1: Of my work. That is you. Through and through.

651
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:08,150
S8: No, I love.

652
00:29:08,150 --> 00:29:09,800
S2: Luke Combs, but he was not my fucking top.

653
00:29:09,830 --> 00:29:11,630
S8: Artist of the year. But we did. Oh, you talked about.

654
00:29:11,900 --> 00:29:13,910
S1: We did. Favorite song was Fast Car, too.

655
00:29:13,910 --> 00:29:14,209
S8: No it.

656
00:29:14,210 --> 00:29:15,770
S2: Wasn't. I don't think it was anything else, I think.

657
00:29:15,770 --> 00:29:17,959
S2: But we did so much like country. We did the

658
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,300
S2: country music part and I did. I interviewed him, and

659
00:29:20,300 --> 00:29:22,400
S2: so because I'm a dedicated journalist, I listened to his

660
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,590
S2: album a bunch. I love Luke Combs, but I was

661
00:29:24,590 --> 00:29:26,360
S2: a bit like, I mean, also, it's the first year

662
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,570
S2: in my life or since Spotify Unwrapped began, that it

663
00:29:29,570 --> 00:29:31,880
S2: hasn't been John Mayer. Uh, so normally it's like you're

664
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,760
S2: in the top 0.01% of John Mayer fans, and this

665
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,980
S2: year he wasn't even in my top five, which was devastating.

666
00:29:36,980 --> 00:29:40,460
S1: I genuinely don't know what is better or worse out

667
00:29:40,460 --> 00:29:42,740
S1: of those two. I mean, you're number one, like.

668
00:29:42,740 --> 00:29:44,390
S8: I'm not proud of it, but I am who I am.

669
00:29:44,390 --> 00:29:48,740
S1: Yeah, lean into it. Um, yeah. So Taylor Swift, top, Spotify, um,

670
00:29:48,740 --> 00:29:52,460
S1: Troye Sivan, Kylie Minogue we're showing Australia's pop dance prowess.

671
00:29:52,460 --> 00:29:55,730
S1: TikTok was speeding up old songs, creating new stars Tate

672
00:29:55,730 --> 00:29:59,630
S1: McRae to name a few highlights. Um, well, we were

673
00:29:59,630 --> 00:30:01,490
S1: just talking about your favorite artist, but now if I

674
00:30:01,490 --> 00:30:04,130
S1: was going to pick your favorite song, did it include

675
00:30:04,130 --> 00:30:05,060
S1: the lyrics?

676
00:30:05,270 --> 00:30:08,570
S8: Oh, you gotta sing, sing it, Lord, it's a damn.

677
00:30:08,570 --> 00:30:11,390
S2: Shame what the world's gotten to.

678
00:30:11,570 --> 00:30:12,290
S8: The people.

679
00:30:12,290 --> 00:30:13,220
S1: Like me.

680
00:30:13,670 --> 00:30:17,300
UU: People like you wish I could just wake up and

681
00:30:17,300 --> 00:30:21,830
UU: and not be true. But it is. Oh, it is

682
00:30:22,340 --> 00:30:32,719
UU: living in. World. With and hope so. Richmond, north of Richmond.

683
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,590
S1: This is Oliver. Anthony? Of course.

684
00:30:36,740 --> 00:30:37,700
S8: Richmond. North of Richmond.

685
00:30:37,730 --> 00:30:40,460
S1: That song feels like a whole year ago, even though

686
00:30:40,460 --> 00:30:42,709
S1: it was only a few months ago. But was that

687
00:30:42,710 --> 00:30:43,520
S1: your favorite song?

688
00:30:43,700 --> 00:30:43,970
S8: Uh.

689
00:30:43,970 --> 00:30:46,730
S2: Definitely not. Um. I'm sure it probably feels like a

690
00:30:46,730 --> 00:30:50,000
S2: whole year ago to fall for Anthony, who's like. I mean,

691
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,410
S2: what it was like to be famous in that half

692
00:30:51,410 --> 00:30:52,490
S2: an hour in September.

693
00:30:52,490 --> 00:30:54,050
S1: I feel sad for him because I think he had some, like,

694
00:30:54,050 --> 00:30:56,750
S1: tours lined up. And I'm just wondering if this deal.

695
00:30:56,750 --> 00:30:58,220
S8: Yeah, really, really packed.

696
00:30:58,220 --> 00:30:58,850
S2: For, like, six.

697
00:30:58,850 --> 00:30:59,630
S8: Minutes. Yeah, yeah.

698
00:30:59,900 --> 00:31:02,270
S2: Uh, no, that wasn't my top song. And as I said,

699
00:31:02,270 --> 00:31:04,940
S2: John Mayer did not release any new music, which was sad.

700
00:31:04,940 --> 00:31:07,820
S2: So I can't go with that. But there was some

701
00:31:07,820 --> 00:31:10,070
S2: music I really loved this year. I was blown away

702
00:31:10,070 --> 00:31:12,440
S2: by Olivia Rodrigo's vampire.

703
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:39,690
S30: It's soccer. Fucker blew me dry like a goddamn vampire.

704
00:31:43,230 --> 00:31:46,050
S2: I didn't expect to be into her, but like, we

705
00:31:46,050 --> 00:31:48,120
S2: obviously spoke a lot about her and you know, she

706
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,280
S2: was such a big force in the pop culture world.

707
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,350
S2: I like kind of got on board just to see

708
00:31:52,350 --> 00:31:53,970
S2: what the fuss is about. And like, I know, I

709
00:31:53,970 --> 00:31:56,520
S2: really get it. I think she's doing something a little

710
00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,660
S2: bit different to what the other, you know, pop, I guess,

711
00:32:00,660 --> 00:32:03,990
S2: like pop stars of now are doing. Um, she's got

712
00:32:03,990 --> 00:32:07,470
S2: really funny lyrics, really tight editing and production. So I

713
00:32:07,470 --> 00:32:10,290
S2: loved that album. I also thought, you know, you touched

714
00:32:10,290 --> 00:32:11,970
S2: on it in there, but choice of on the rush

715
00:32:11,970 --> 00:32:16,020
S2: album is great. Got Me Started is probably like it's

716
00:32:16,020 --> 00:32:17,670
S2: only come out in the last couple of weeks and

717
00:32:17,670 --> 00:32:19,590
S2: I've played that song. It'll probably be on my Spotify

718
00:32:19,590 --> 00:32:20,400
S2: wrap for next year.

719
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,020
S1: I feel like that could be your song of summer.

720
00:32:22,020 --> 00:32:24,150
S2: Oh my God, it's so good. Yes. Definitely is. Like

721
00:32:24,150 --> 00:32:26,220
S2: samples Bag Raiders Shooting Stars, which is one of the

722
00:32:26,220 --> 00:32:28,470
S2: all time great songs. Um, and it's just like if

723
00:32:28,470 --> 00:32:31,230
S2: you put that song on, it's impossible to be unhappy.

724
00:32:31,260 --> 00:32:35,190
UU: You just got me started. Back inside me. And I

725
00:32:35,190 --> 00:32:39,480
UU: wanna go home alone. Right? Oh, baby, baby boy. To

726
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:46,220
UU: be honest conversation about you. Just like his body did tonight. Oh, baby. Baby.

727
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,860
S2: Nah. I was playing yesterday in the kitchen with my

728
00:32:50,860 --> 00:32:52,720
S2: one year old son and he doesn't know anything about

729
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,300
S2: pop music and he was loving it, so that was great.

730
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,630
S2: And then I do think, you know, we joked about it,

731
00:32:58,630 --> 00:33:01,450
S2: Luke coos. No, he's had a big year, man. He's

732
00:33:01,450 --> 00:33:02,080
S2: been streamed like.

733
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:02,920
S8: 5 billion.

734
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,690
S1: To him being your favorite artist. And now you're like,

735
00:33:04,690 --> 00:33:05,650
S1: he's my favorite song.

736
00:33:05,650 --> 00:33:07,750
S8: Well, he's not my favorite artist. He is.

737
00:33:07,750 --> 00:33:10,690
S2: He's never he's great. And he he sold the most

738
00:33:10,690 --> 00:33:13,060
S2: tickets in Australia this year. He sold something like 90,000

739
00:33:13,060 --> 00:33:15,700
S2: tickets in five minutes. My whole entire extended family went

740
00:33:15,700 --> 00:33:20,320
S2: to the show along with Latrell Mitchell, Star City star, and.

741
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:20,920
S8: Loved.

742
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,970
S2: It. And like there is no denying the like year

743
00:33:24,970 --> 00:33:27,820
S2: that Luke Combs has had. And off the back of that,

744
00:33:27,820 --> 00:33:30,910
S2: by extension, you know, country music and, you know, Zach

745
00:33:30,910 --> 00:33:31,810
S2: Bryan and all these.

746
00:33:31,810 --> 00:33:32,740
S8: Guys who you.

747
00:33:32,740 --> 00:33:33,280
S1: Introduced me.

748
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:34,120
S8: To. Yeah.

749
00:33:34,150 --> 00:33:36,700
S2: You know, these guys are all like in the middle

750
00:33:36,700 --> 00:33:39,340
S2: of something. But I think Luke Combs particularly really, really

751
00:33:39,340 --> 00:33:41,380
S2: hits me and fast car you.

752
00:33:41,380 --> 00:33:45,490
S36: Got a fast car and I wanna take it too. Anyway,

753
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:50,590
S36: maybe we make a deal. Maybe together we can get somewhere.

754
00:33:50,770 --> 00:33:55,690
S36: And it places better. Starting from zero. Got nothing to lose.

755
00:33:55,690 --> 00:34:00,670
UU: Maybe we'll make something. Me, myself, I got nothing to prove.

756
00:34:04,910 --> 00:34:05,960
S8: I know you don't think.

757
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,550
S1: Of picking that as your favorite song. No.

758
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:08,690
S8: No.

759
00:34:08,690 --> 00:34:10,460
S2: But you think it's a bad cover?

760
00:34:10,489 --> 00:34:13,009
S1: I don't think it's a bad cover. I just don't

761
00:34:13,010 --> 00:34:14,630
S1: think it's as good as the original.

762
00:34:14,780 --> 00:34:16,460
S2: Yeah, but you. I heard you in the office one day.

763
00:34:16,460 --> 00:34:18,020
S2: You were like, oh, he doesn't add anything to it,

764
00:34:18,020 --> 00:34:20,750
S2: blah blah blah. Look him sucks. And like, it's like

765
00:34:20,750 --> 00:34:22,370
S2: the most popular song of the year. So I'm not

766
00:34:22,370 --> 00:34:23,750
S2: calling it my favorite song of the year.

767
00:34:23,930 --> 00:34:25,129
S8: That's what this section is.

768
00:34:25,130 --> 00:34:26,330
S1: Your favorite song of the year? Well.

769
00:34:26,690 --> 00:34:28,640
S2: For that I'm going got me started by Troye Sivan,

770
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,160
S2: but I'm just I'm giving honorable mention to Luke Combs

771
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,020
S2: because you have spent so long trying to.

772
00:34:33,020 --> 00:34:33,500
S8: Bring him down.

773
00:34:33,500 --> 00:34:36,200
S1: Undiscovered country hero that needs defending from.

774
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:37,430
S8: Another white guy with a.

775
00:34:37,430 --> 00:34:38,359
S2: Guitar just doing.

776
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:39,830
S8: His thing. I love.

777
00:34:39,830 --> 00:34:41,660
S1: The idea of you just seething in the office as

778
00:34:41,660 --> 00:34:43,610
S1: I go around spouting off about fast.

779
00:34:43,610 --> 00:34:44,780
S8: Car. Yes, seriously.

780
00:34:45,469 --> 00:34:49,610
S1: I also would say Olivia Rodrigo's Guts was kind of

781
00:34:49,610 --> 00:34:51,680
S1: one of my albums of the year. Getting back such

782
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:52,400
S1: a banger.

783
00:34:52,430 --> 00:34:54,740
UU: I met a guy in the summer and I left

784
00:34:54,739 --> 00:34:58,069
UU: him in the spring. He argued with me about everything.

785
00:34:58,420 --> 00:35:01,570
UU: He had an ego and a temper and a wandering eyes,

786
00:35:01,570 --> 00:35:04,339
UU: 36 foot two and I'm like, do. Nice try.

787
00:35:05,660 --> 00:35:10,190
S1: Caroline. Politics. Desire. I want to turn into you. That album,

788
00:35:10,190 --> 00:35:12,980
S1: I think is so good. The song I love most

789
00:35:12,980 --> 00:35:14,029
S1: from it, I believe.

790
00:35:14,890 --> 00:35:17,590
UU: I don't know, but I believe.

791
00:35:31,570 --> 00:35:35,020
S1: I saw her at the end more recently. Concert was

792
00:35:35,020 --> 00:35:38,290
S1: so fun. She was so fun, so high energy. Like

793
00:35:38,290 --> 00:35:40,029
S1: it's a great album. I don't know if you're a

794
00:35:40,030 --> 00:35:42,489
S1: huge fan of hers, but I feel like you could

795
00:35:42,489 --> 00:35:45,730
S1: you could get into a scissors Kill Bill from the

796
00:35:45,730 --> 00:35:46,750
S1: SOS album.

797
00:35:47,590 --> 00:35:50,350
UU: Even though it's salty. Hate to see you with some

798
00:35:50,350 --> 00:35:53,050
UU: other bro. I know you happy to see you happy

799
00:35:53,050 --> 00:35:56,910
UU: if I'm not the one driving, I'm so. I'm so mature.

800
00:35:57,150 --> 00:35:59,520
UU: I'm so mature. I got me a therapist who told

801
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,439
UU: me this other man. I ain't got one.

802
00:36:03,060 --> 00:36:04,440
S1: That's a banger of a song, right?

803
00:36:04,530 --> 00:36:05,069
S8: Yes. Agreed.

804
00:36:05,100 --> 00:36:07,890
S1: I put that up there. Victoria mayonnaise on my mama. Like,

805
00:36:07,890 --> 00:36:09,719
S1: that's a that could be my song of summer.

806
00:36:09,750 --> 00:36:10,200
S8: Sorry.

807
00:36:11,310 --> 00:36:15,540
S1: I can say, like, kind of sultry summer fun, sexy.

808
00:36:15,780 --> 00:36:17,640
S8: On in the background and mute and you're just.

809
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,399
S1: I got a lot of women loving, loving themselves on

810
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,410
S1: their body. If you revenge tracks in there.

811
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:23,130
S8: Yeah. And I feel.

812
00:36:23,130 --> 00:36:24,480
S2: Like you're also going through something.

813
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,180
S1: Yeah, I mean, that's a good vibe to have.

814
00:36:28,930 --> 00:36:34,040
UU: You can't touch my back. What? You could. I look

815
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:47,150
UU: too good. Put that on my. Too good.

816
00:36:50,420 --> 00:36:53,390
S1: All right. Well, I think now the section we've all

817
00:36:53,390 --> 00:36:57,620
S1: been waiting for, that we all, as drop viewers and

818
00:36:57,620 --> 00:37:01,370
S1: a host had to campaign for more books on the drop. Yes,

819
00:37:01,370 --> 00:37:03,799
S1: we've done it. Here we go again. It's been a

820
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,660
S1: great big year for books on the drop and off

821
00:37:05,660 --> 00:37:09,050
S1: the drop. Prince Harry and Britney Spears delivered memoirs. Rebecca

822
00:37:09,050 --> 00:37:11,630
S1: Jarosz made us want to be dragonriders in the very

823
00:37:11,630 --> 00:37:16,220
S1: sexy fourth wing. Um, and then yellowface was an instant bestseller.

824
00:37:16,250 --> 00:37:18,290
S1: One of my highlights of the year, and I'm kind

825
00:37:18,290 --> 00:37:20,030
S1: of picking a book that I think would also work

826
00:37:20,030 --> 00:37:24,529
S1: well for people over summer was Curtis Stanfield's romantic comedy.

827
00:37:24,530 --> 00:37:29,960
S1: It's about this, um, SNL esque successful script writer who

828
00:37:29,989 --> 00:37:32,569
S1: meets a pop star, Noah, and she tries to flip

829
00:37:32,570 --> 00:37:36,230
S1: the script on, you know, a famous, handsome pop star

830
00:37:36,230 --> 00:37:40,700
S1: falling for a falling for a lowly TV writer. You know,

831
00:37:40,700 --> 00:37:43,250
S1: I guess the joke is that that often happens with

832
00:37:43,250 --> 00:37:46,040
S1: kind of successful women falling for mediocre men, and kind

833
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,040
S1: of Stanfield's playing with that idea. It's really fun. It's

834
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,340
S1: a great read for summer, like make you laugh out loud,

835
00:37:52,340 --> 00:37:55,880
S1: but it's also clever. It's not kind of. It's not trash. Yeah. Um.

836
00:37:57,380 --> 00:37:59,120
S8: I tried to think of a way to, like. I

837
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:00,380
S8: could feel you trying to sound more.

838
00:38:00,380 --> 00:38:03,140
S1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just went with it. The other ones,

839
00:38:03,140 --> 00:38:05,750
S1: I reckon, were kind of favorites for me. Zadie Smith's

840
00:38:05,750 --> 00:38:07,670
S1: The Fraud. I think I might have mentioned this at

841
00:38:07,670 --> 00:38:10,910
S1: the time. It's this real epic story. Real life trial

842
00:38:10,910 --> 00:38:13,219
S1: of a man in 19th century London who claimed to

843
00:38:13,219 --> 00:38:16,700
S1: be the heir to this enormous fortune. And then the

844
00:38:16,700 --> 00:38:18,860
S1: trial is about, was he the actual heir or was

845
00:38:18,860 --> 00:38:21,740
S1: he just a butcher from Australia? It's a kind of

846
00:38:21,739 --> 00:38:24,590
S1: sweeping read, but really great. You kind of get stuck

847
00:38:24,590 --> 00:38:27,500
S1: into it. Pages turn. And the other one I thought

848
00:38:27,500 --> 00:38:31,100
S1: was really great this year was Naomi Klein's doppelganger. It's

849
00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:36,350
S1: like this really insightful read about truth in politics. It

850
00:38:36,350 --> 00:38:41,240
S1: was prompted because Naomi Klein kept being confused with Naomi Wolf,

851
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,430
S1: who is the author of The Beauty Myth of a

852
00:38:43,430 --> 00:38:48,350
S1: very famous feminist book. Thomas, I imagine you've read it.

853
00:38:48,530 --> 00:38:49,250
S8: Several times.

854
00:38:49,310 --> 00:38:52,670
S1: But, you know, Naomi Wolf has more lately been kind

855
00:38:52,670 --> 00:38:56,000
S1: of aligned with moving into anti-vaxxer territory and online. Naomi

856
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,970
S1: Klein kept getting confused with her. And so it's all

857
00:38:58,969 --> 00:39:02,630
S1: about that. It's really interesting non-fiction read, and our friend

858
00:39:02,660 --> 00:39:05,839
S1: Osman Farooqui gets a shout out in it, which was

859
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,779
S1: such a fun thing to discover as I turned the page,

860
00:39:08,780 --> 00:39:11,060
S1: because he has a very interesting, I was going to

861
00:39:11,060 --> 00:39:14,000
S1: say funny, but also kind of alarming anecdote of being

862
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:18,980
S1: confused with kind of another, another man, another brown man,

863
00:39:18,980 --> 00:39:19,819
S1: as he would say.

864
00:39:19,820 --> 00:39:20,150
S8: Yes.

865
00:39:20,150 --> 00:39:22,940
S1: Um, yeah. So, uh, that's fun too. I thought I

866
00:39:22,940 --> 00:39:23,690
S1: had to include that.

867
00:39:23,690 --> 00:39:25,850
S2: Yeah, I've read a lot about that. Um, do you

868
00:39:25,850 --> 00:39:27,110
S2: ever get confused with anybody?

869
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,640
S1: Uh, I get called Meg a lot. Yeah, mainly exclusively

870
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:32,660
S1: on this podcast.

871
00:39:32,780 --> 00:39:34,940
S8: But you do have big Meg energy, though.

872
00:39:34,969 --> 00:39:36,380
S1: What about. What about you?

873
00:39:36,980 --> 00:39:40,010
S2: Uh, no. Not really. I have kind of.

874
00:39:40,130 --> 00:39:40,580
S8: Yeah.

875
00:39:40,580 --> 00:39:41,630
S1: Perfectly unique.

876
00:39:41,630 --> 00:39:44,900
S2: Yes. Despite having a very, like, you know, common name.

877
00:39:44,900 --> 00:39:46,940
S8: Yeah. Like a snowflake. Yes. Correct.

878
00:39:46,940 --> 00:39:49,580
S1: Um, what about you? Any favorite books do you read?

879
00:39:49,820 --> 00:39:50,480
S2: Uh, I.

880
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:51,350
S8: Do, I used.

881
00:39:51,350 --> 00:39:52,370
S2: To be a famous reader.

882
00:39:52,700 --> 00:39:53,719
S8: One of the great readers.

883
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,969
S2: Yeah, yeah, I read with the best of them. Yeah.

884
00:39:55,969 --> 00:39:59,900
S2: This year, like. I've got just obviously my baby just

885
00:39:59,900 --> 00:40:03,049
S2: turned one, and that has been an enormous spanner in

886
00:40:03,050 --> 00:40:07,250
S2: my reading and also just my general well-being. But no,

887
00:40:07,250 --> 00:40:09,440
S2: but like it really, I it was funny because like,

888
00:40:09,710 --> 00:40:10,790
S2: did you ever do that thing or do you do

889
00:40:10,790 --> 00:40:13,340
S2: that thing where, like you write in your notes what

890
00:40:13,340 --> 00:40:14,900
S2: you read for the year? Yeah, I really do.

891
00:40:14,900 --> 00:40:15,320
S8: Yeah.

892
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,589
S2: And same and, and so like it's so depressing looking

893
00:40:18,590 --> 00:40:22,070
S2: back at like 2018, 2019 um, and like seeing how

894
00:40:22,070 --> 00:40:24,169
S2: good the lists were. And then I knew like obviously

895
00:40:24,170 --> 00:40:25,219
S2: all my friends warn me like once you have a

896
00:40:25,219 --> 00:40:27,170
S2: baby and he was born, you know, like last December.

897
00:40:27,170 --> 00:40:30,080
S2: So right at the start of like leading into 2023.

898
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,170
S2: And my list this year is so sad.

899
00:40:33,620 --> 00:40:34,220
S1: How many.

900
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:35,660
S2: Like three.

901
00:40:35,900 --> 00:40:36,800
S8: That's good.

902
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,080
S2: I know. I mean, if we're not counting uh, that's

903
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,900
S2: not my tractor. That's not my wombat, that's not my monster.

904
00:40:41,900 --> 00:40:42,800
S2: And obviously Goodnight.

905
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:43,250
S8: Moon.

906
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,880
S2: Which I have read several times. Yeah, I didn't get

907
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,650
S2: to read as much this year, but I just kind

908
00:40:48,650 --> 00:40:50,450
S2: of watched from the sidelines. But the ones I did

909
00:40:50,450 --> 00:40:53,450
S2: read and enjoy. Uh, so Death Valley Racer one from

910
00:40:53,450 --> 00:40:57,230
S2: Melissa Broder I loved milk fed her previous work. People

911
00:40:57,230 --> 00:40:59,450
S2: are kind of a bit split on this one. Um,

912
00:40:59,450 --> 00:41:02,660
S2: it's I guess narratively it's a bit out there. It's

913
00:41:02,660 --> 00:41:04,730
S2: kind of about a woman who's, you know, dealing with

914
00:41:04,730 --> 00:41:07,160
S2: multiple crises in her life. Her father is unwell, her

915
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,219
S2: husband is unwell. She takes herself off to this remote, um,

916
00:41:10,219 --> 00:41:13,100
S2: kind of location in the desert, stays at a motel

917
00:41:13,100 --> 00:41:15,950
S2: and then goes out hiking, ends up walking into a

918
00:41:15,950 --> 00:41:18,680
S2: giant cactus where she meets the younger version of her father.

919
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,020
S2: There's all sorts of weird stuff. Uh, but I find

920
00:41:21,020 --> 00:41:23,960
S2: that broders tone, um, is as dry as the desert

921
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:24,860
S2: she is trapped in.

922
00:41:24,860 --> 00:41:27,290
S1: Wow, you you don't need to read a book. You

923
00:41:27,290 --> 00:41:27,680
S1: should write.

924
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,509
S8: One. I have famously written a.

925
00:41:29,510 --> 00:41:32,660
S2: Book as well. Um, but yeah, so it's very funny.

926
00:41:32,660 --> 00:41:34,549
S2: And I enjoyed that. Kind of snuck that in at

927
00:41:34,550 --> 00:41:36,440
S2: the end of the year. I also read earlier this

928
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:40,340
S2: year I'd Rather Not by Australian writer Robert Skinner, very,

929
00:41:40,340 --> 00:41:43,700
S2: very funny. Like it's basically just a kind of bunch

930
00:41:43,700 --> 00:41:45,680
S2: of short essays about a man doing all the things

931
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,470
S2: we do, you know, like working and existing in the

932
00:41:48,469 --> 00:41:51,170
S2: world and like trying to pay his bills and meet

933
00:41:51,170 --> 00:41:52,940
S2: people and go to house parties. It's like almost like

934
00:41:52,940 --> 00:41:55,549
S2: a bunch of vignettes or just thoughts, uh, but very,

935
00:41:55,550 --> 00:41:57,980
S2: very funny. And I love books like that. You know,

936
00:41:58,010 --> 00:41:59,900
S2: he's kind of almost like an Australian Sedaris, which was

937
00:41:59,900 --> 00:42:02,239
S2: once how I tried to sell myself. But it appears

938
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:02,930
S2: Skinner has done the.

939
00:42:02,930 --> 00:42:03,590
S8: Job for me.

940
00:42:03,590 --> 00:42:05,000
S1: Lies cheap and low on that bar.

941
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,810
S2: Yeah, I was like more of an Australian debuts. Um huh.

942
00:42:10,190 --> 00:42:11,120
S8: But then.

943
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,700
S2: And then the final one, uh, is.

944
00:42:13,700 --> 00:42:14,600
S8: Oh, I know.

945
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:15,979
S1: Exactly why you picked this.

946
00:42:15,980 --> 00:42:16,760
S8: Book. Yeah, this.

947
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,120
S2: One is Greek Lessons by Han Kang. It was translated

948
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,279
S2: this year. It came out in 2011, but translated into

949
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,920
S2: English for the first time this year. Uh, obviously, I'm

950
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,600
S2: not sure if you know Mel, but Han Kang won

951
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,160
S2: the Booker prize for The Vegetarian.

952
00:42:28,310 --> 00:42:28,940
S1: I do.

953
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:30,140
S2: Uh, and then the.

954
00:42:30,530 --> 00:42:32,150
S1: The prize in translation.

955
00:42:32,630 --> 00:42:34,310
S8: Yeah. Get out. Get off the podcast.

956
00:42:34,730 --> 00:42:37,640
S2: Um, but Greek Lessons is, again, very beautiful. Almost like

957
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,190
S2: we spoke about past lives. It almost has a similar, like,

958
00:42:40,190 --> 00:42:43,580
S2: energy to that. It's a quiet novel. These two characters,

959
00:42:43,580 --> 00:42:45,680
S2: one of them, um, you know, it's kind of almost like,

960
00:42:46,219 --> 00:42:50,510
S2: I guess, mute learning ancient Greek together. It brings them

961
00:42:50,510 --> 00:42:54,380
S2: together in this, uh, kind of like weird language school

962
00:42:54,380 --> 00:42:57,590
S2: in Seoul, Korea. They're very, you know, you feel their

963
00:42:57,590 --> 00:43:01,370
S2: lives beginning to, like, intertwine. There's this relationship that develops.

964
00:43:01,370 --> 00:43:03,350
S2: It's a very strange novel, but one of those ones,

965
00:43:03,350 --> 00:43:05,690
S2: and it's short as well, but you just feel it, like,

966
00:43:05,690 --> 00:43:07,790
S2: kind of washing over you really quickly. Um, so I

967
00:43:07,790 --> 00:43:10,040
S2: thought that was that was a great read and yeah,

968
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:11,210
S2: probably one of my favorites of the year.

969
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:11,570
S8: Man, The.

970
00:43:11,570 --> 00:43:17,149
S1: Vegetarian was such a good, original, inventive book. I that's

971
00:43:17,150 --> 00:43:19,040
S1: that would be on my favorite books of kind of

972
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,350
S1: the recent recent decades I think.

973
00:43:21,650 --> 00:43:23,810
S2: Yeah. And like and you can even enjoy it if

974
00:43:23,810 --> 00:43:24,650
S2: you're not a vegetarian.

975
00:43:24,830 --> 00:43:26,330
S1: You can maybe we'll make you.

976
00:43:26,330 --> 00:43:27,290
S8: One, actually.

977
00:43:27,950 --> 00:43:30,140
S1: All right. You have impressed me.

978
00:43:30,140 --> 00:43:31,760
S8: We should hope so. Yeah.

979
00:43:32,390 --> 00:43:35,420
S1: Let's move on to impressing other people with one of

980
00:43:35,420 --> 00:43:40,730
S1: our favorite sections. Impress your friends. My one is bottoms,

981
00:43:40,730 --> 00:43:45,020
S1: which is a queer teen sex movie. It, um, was

982
00:43:45,020 --> 00:43:47,899
S1: directed and written by Emma Seligman, who co-wrote it with

983
00:43:47,900 --> 00:43:51,380
S1: Rachel Sennott, who we know from the idol plays. One

984
00:43:51,380 --> 00:43:52,370
S1: of my favorite characters was.

985
00:43:52,370 --> 00:43:53,360
S2: She's so happy you brought.

986
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:53,689
S8: That up.

987
00:43:53,690 --> 00:43:56,120
S1: Assistant to Jocelyn. Hey, just thinking now we should have

988
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,090
S1: probably include. I'm not. I'm a freak, you know, in

989
00:43:59,090 --> 00:44:00,290
S1: our best songs of the year.

990
00:44:00,290 --> 00:44:01,310
S8: I sure do love that song.

991
00:44:01,310 --> 00:44:04,340
S1: Yeah, yeah, that was actually a banger. Um, anyway, Rachel

992
00:44:04,340 --> 00:44:08,509
S1: Senate is in this, and she co-stars with also our girl. Oh,

993
00:44:08,510 --> 00:44:12,680
S1: and a Berry from the bear. I reckon this deserves

994
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,380
S1: to be a cult classic. It is so fun. It's

995
00:44:15,380 --> 00:44:18,319
S1: about two lesbian best friends. They set up a self-defense

996
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,500
S1: club as an empowering thing, but really, they just want

997
00:44:21,500 --> 00:44:25,370
S1: the popular cheerleaders. One of which is Kaia Gerber to, um,

998
00:44:25,370 --> 00:44:26,060
S1: she is.

999
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:27,530
S8: Hot, hot.

1000
00:44:27,980 --> 00:44:30,259
S1: Um, to have to have sex with them. But it

1001
00:44:30,260 --> 00:44:32,630
S1: is very funny. You know, I love Sheba, baby. I've

1002
00:44:32,630 --> 00:44:34,819
S1: talked about it on the pod before, which was the

1003
00:44:34,820 --> 00:44:38,360
S1: two of them as well. This isn't as good as Sheba, baby.

1004
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,569
S1: It's not kind of life changing in that way, but

1005
00:44:42,140 --> 00:44:44,810
S1: it's so funny and it's so it's a really enjoyable

1006
00:44:44,810 --> 00:44:47,570
S1: good watch. We talked about No Hard Feelings, the Jennifer

1007
00:44:47,570 --> 00:44:50,000
S1: Lawrence film earlier in the year, and it's kind of like,

1008
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,710
S1: you know, that's the kind of you're sitting in the

1009
00:44:51,710 --> 00:44:54,350
S1: same mood, but it's obviously doing something very different. So

1010
00:44:54,350 --> 00:44:56,570
S1: I think that's like once it hits streamers, it's in

1011
00:44:56,570 --> 00:44:58,550
S1: cinemas now, but once it hits streamers, it will be

1012
00:44:58,550 --> 00:45:03,529
S1: one to download. What about you? How are you impressing me? Uh.

1013
00:45:03,830 --> 00:45:06,440
S2: I mean, I try my best to impress you every day.

1014
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:07,279
S8: Do you.

1015
00:45:07,820 --> 00:45:11,180
S2: Uh. This one? Look, I think when it comes to TV,

1016
00:45:11,300 --> 00:45:12,770
S2: lots of people.

1017
00:45:12,770 --> 00:45:16,190
S8: Oh, I oh, hello. Mansplaining voice. Yeah. The thing about

1018
00:45:16,190 --> 00:45:16,880
S8: TV is.

1019
00:45:18,469 --> 00:45:19,940
S2: Uh. No, look, when it comes to TV, I feel

1020
00:45:19,940 --> 00:45:24,560
S2: like lots of people have been searching for the next fleabag.

1021
00:45:24,590 --> 00:45:25,489
S2: Is that a fair statement?

1022
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:26,930
S1: Yeah. I think that's fair.

1023
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,930
S2: Obviously. Phoebe Waller-Bridge is. Amazon Show is one of the greats.

1024
00:45:29,930 --> 00:45:31,640
S2: Everyone loves it, and it kind of kicked off a

1025
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,250
S2: particular genre of TV. And this I think is one

1026
00:45:34,250 --> 00:45:36,170
S2: of the closest that we get to it. This is

1027
00:45:36,170 --> 00:45:40,640
S2: smothered on binge, very funny comedy created by Monica Heisey,

1028
00:45:40,670 --> 00:45:43,009
S2: whose name might not mean anything, but she's the creator

1029
00:45:43,010 --> 00:45:43,759
S2: of Schitt's Creek.

1030
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:44,330
S8: Yes.

1031
00:45:44,330 --> 00:45:47,450
S2: And basically it's like a six episode type British comedy,

1032
00:45:47,450 --> 00:45:49,580
S2: which is, you know, something we all love. And basically

1033
00:45:49,580 --> 00:45:52,759
S2: it's a tale of like two different people, um, Sammy

1034
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,190
S2: and Tom, you know, they're kind of doing the dating

1035
00:45:55,190 --> 00:45:57,890
S2: apps thing. They meet in a London nightclub, they hit

1036
00:45:57,890 --> 00:45:59,690
S2: it off. And rather than, like, I guess, doing the

1037
00:45:59,690 --> 00:46:01,700
S2: dance of like, Will they have a relationship, won't they?

1038
00:46:01,700 --> 00:46:04,460
S2: They just agree to have three weeks of good sex

1039
00:46:04,460 --> 00:46:06,830
S2: and then they'll never contact each other again. So they

1040
00:46:06,830 --> 00:46:09,320
S2: kind of like remove the emotional commitment or any kind

1041
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,180
S2: of future promise of the relationship. They just like, we're

1042
00:46:11,180 --> 00:46:13,880
S2: gonna have sex, they eat pasta, they hang out for

1043
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,589
S2: three weeks and that's it. And they agree to never

1044
00:46:15,590 --> 00:46:19,250
S2: see each other again. Wow. Now, obviously, as you can predict,

1045
00:46:19,250 --> 00:46:21,710
S2: like feelings emerge, but at the very, very end of

1046
00:46:21,710 --> 00:46:23,509
S2: they're like three weeks. And this is a small spoiler,

1047
00:46:23,510 --> 00:46:25,489
S2: but it kind of sets up the show. Uh, we

1048
00:46:25,489 --> 00:46:29,180
S2: learned that Tom, the guy has a child. Oh, yes.

1049
00:46:29,180 --> 00:46:31,190
S2: So spanner. But then from there it all becomes this,

1050
00:46:31,190 --> 00:46:34,010
S2: like really funny and quite like realistic and heartfelt comedy.

1051
00:46:34,010 --> 00:46:36,590
S2: On top of that, it's got Eileen B who we love.

1052
00:46:36,590 --> 00:46:37,790
S8: Oh I love her. Yeah.

1053
00:46:37,790 --> 00:46:40,340
S2: And so it is very much like a show that

1054
00:46:40,340 --> 00:46:42,710
S2: probably was written with Fleabag in mind, but the characters

1055
00:46:42,710 --> 00:46:46,340
S2: are real and like believable and funny and the comedy is,

1056
00:46:46,340 --> 00:46:49,130
S2: you know, like it's very quick and very British. And

1057
00:46:49,130 --> 00:46:51,799
S2: I really enjoyed it. That's a six episode show on

1058
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:52,970
S2: Binge Smothered.

1059
00:46:52,969 --> 00:46:53,360
S8: Oh, that.

1060
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,730
S1: Sounds so good. I'm definitely going to put that on

1061
00:46:55,730 --> 00:46:57,680
S1: the list. That sounds very far up my alley.

1062
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,359
S2: It really is. And I think it's perfect again, like

1063
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,819
S2: we've spoken about it before, that weird period, like after Christmas,

1064
00:47:01,820 --> 00:47:04,400
S2: before New Year's Eve, where like, nothing really matters anymore.

1065
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,290
S2: You need shows like this to just, like, wash over you.

1066
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,450
S1: Nothing really matters anymore. That's quite talk.

1067
00:47:08,450 --> 00:47:09,859
S8: Well, I mean, it's true that, you know.

1068
00:47:09,860 --> 00:47:11,120
S2: You just kind of eat until you hate.

1069
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,219
S1: Yourself. And is that what you will be doing on

1070
00:47:13,219 --> 00:47:14,930
S1: Christmas Day? What are your Christmas plans?

1071
00:47:15,230 --> 00:47:18,050
S2: Yes. I'll probably eat until I hate myself and then

1072
00:47:18,050 --> 00:47:20,000
S2: hopefully just slip into a deep sleep.

1073
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,460
S1: Now that your father, are you dressing up as Santa?

1074
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,280
S2: Uh, no. I think that's still a while off. I mean,

1075
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,710
S2: my kid's only one, so he doesn't even know. Like who?

1076
00:47:27,710 --> 00:47:30,320
S2: Santa is or who he is himself. But I'll be

1077
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,509
S2: going away to regional New South Wales, which is where

1078
00:47:32,510 --> 00:47:34,879
S2: I love to spend Christmas. Um, because it gets close

1079
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:35,960
S2: to 45 out there.

1080
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:37,760
S1: You're a dream temperature, correct?

1081
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,430
S2: Uh, but yes, I will be doing all the Christmas things. Um,

1082
00:47:40,430 --> 00:47:42,290
S2: but of course, missing you.

1083
00:47:42,350 --> 00:47:45,529
S1: Oh. Thank you. That's lovely. We will be back for

1084
00:47:45,530 --> 00:47:48,950
S1: another pod next week, where we're going to be recounting

1085
00:47:48,950 --> 00:47:52,640
S1: all the kind of pop culture moments, trends and incidences

1086
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,939
S1: of 2023 and also looking forward to 2024 and what

1087
00:47:55,940 --> 00:47:59,690
S1: we're excited about. Obviously, recording more of the drop. But

1088
00:47:59,690 --> 00:48:02,240
S1: until then, we hope you have a very Merry Christmas.

1089
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,790
S1: Take us out with fast cars. Thomas. Oh.

1090
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:06,890
S2: I forgot to begin.

1091
00:48:08,900 --> 00:48:12,740
S36: What a fast car. Car. And I wanna take it

1092
00:48:12,739 --> 00:48:16,880
S36: to anywhere. Anywhere. Maybe. Maybe we make a deal. Maybe

1093
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,480
S36: we together we can get someone. Any place is better. Better.

1094
00:48:21,260 --> 00:48:22,460
S36: Starting from zero.

1095
00:48:22,460 --> 00:48:27,290
UU: Got nothing to lose. Maybe we'll make something. Me, myself,

1096
00:48:27,290 --> 00:48:27,950
UU: I got no.

1097
00:48:34,610 --> 00:48:37,160
S1: This episode of The Drop was produced by Chai Wong.

1098
00:48:37,190 --> 00:48:39,739
S1: If you enjoyed listening to today's episode of The Drop,

1099
00:48:39,739 --> 00:48:42,110
S1: make sure to follow us on your favorite podcast app.

1100
00:48:42,110 --> 00:48:44,960
S1: Leave us a review or better yet, share the episode

1101
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,629
S1: with a friend. I'm Melanie Kambouris. We'll see you next week.