WEBVTT - Afternoons with Michael McLaren - Wednesday, 28th May 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:07.200 On two GV at network stations. This is Afternoons with 0:00:07.360 --> 0:00:08.320 Michael McLaren. 0:00:09.800 --> 0:00:12.040 Yeah, it is good afternoon. Thank you for joining us. Wednesday, 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:14.880 beautiful day outside, gorgeous day. In fact, it is May 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:18.120 twenty eight, and it is nice to share the afternoon 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:20.600 with you. We're hit till three o'clock, of course, one three, one, 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:23.080 eight seven three. But tonight that's when it's all happening. 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:25.840 Tonight's state of Origin one. I can't wait. Well, we 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:27.200 say that we're going to have to wait, n't we 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:29.000 because well, they're not going to play it earlier, just 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:31.920 because we can't wait. Marke Levy of course calling his 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:34.680 first origin with the Continuous Call team and Mark, you're 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:38.479 going to do a magnificent job. Everyone is very confident 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:40.560 of that. It'll be a good match. It'll be a 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:42.600 really good match. I think the Blues have the better side, 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:46.000 but they're playing in Brisbane obviously, and so that negates 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:48.400 a bit of that advantage, i'd argue. Anyway, we'll have 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:50.960 a look at that later on. Chucks brought his footy 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:55.360 tips to us, so i'll share his origin prediction with 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:58.680 you as well. I won't remind you that he got 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:02.400 zero from five last. We'll just leave that one behind 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:05.720 us and move on. Many people did. Later this hour 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:09.039 my special guest, the former Prime Minister Scott Morrison, and 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:12.720 I'll speak to him obstensively about this idea that Orcus 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:16.959 is developed beyond stage one and stage two into what 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:19.480 I think he would call stage three, and that was 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:24.319 a focus on space. Now the theory here, I think 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:29.119 is quite sound, and that is you push, you push 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:33.320 for this third tararch of Orcus, as it were, and 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:38.240 you make Australia an even more valuable ally in the 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:45.240 trilateral relationship. Now in some respects. Look what America have 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:52.919 done with Ukraine. Now, Ukraine have some similarities to Australia geopolitically, 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:57.480 from a mineral and resources point of view, strategically for 0:01:57.560 --> 0:02:01.760 the United States, and the Americans have just done this 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:06.240 rare earth and minerals deal with Ukraine. Now, I'm sure 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:08.760 Ukraine didn't really want to do it, but they've agreed 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:13.680 to it because it positions American capital, American business, and 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:18.160 American individuals in Ukraine like never before. And therefore, if 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:21.280 Ukraine comes under attack, I think the thinking in Kiev 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:24.000 would be, well, the Americans be far more likely to 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:31.079 get involved more immediately and defend Ukraine's sovereignty because America 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:34.320 has skin in the game. Now, we've already got Pine Gap, 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:36.920 and we've got a long standing military relationship, a rotation 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:39.280 of American troops through the top end and the lake. 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:44.640 But if on top of atomic submarines and missiles and 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:48.160 the other military componentry of orcust stage one stage two, 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:51.720 we then take it to stage three with space capabilities. 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:54.320 Not to say we're gonna have Cape canaveral up in 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:57.160 the top end, but that we fill some plugs and 0:02:57.200 --> 0:02:59.919 some gaps, which we are in a position to do, 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:03.440 then we become an even deeper and more entrenched ally 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:05.840 for the United States and by extension, the United Kingdom. 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:08.160 I guess the thinking is, if push comes to shove, 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:11.239 they're therefore more likely to come to our defense because 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:15.360 our defense is also by extension their defense. Anyway, that's 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:18.440 my theory, but I'll leave all of the explanation to 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:21.960 Scott Morrison later. At this hour, now after one o'clock, 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:24.000 I want to look at a different issue. I give 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:26.239 the Citny Morning Herald's credit. They put this in the 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:28.840 paper today. It's a very important issue, and I think 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:31.359 a lot of parents and grandparents are very worried about 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:37.760 the exposure of their young children and grandchildren to pornography. Now, 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:41.000 I think we'd all be completely naive lying if we 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:43.320 said none of us had ever seen anything pornographic. All 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:45.400 we've got to is put SBS on it Friday night 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:49.880 after ten o'clock and it's all there. But the online 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:55.160 situation is far more graphic, and it is seemingly everywhere 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:58.640 these days. Now there are reports that children as young 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:03.000 as ten nine an eight are being exposed and frequently 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:06.600 to pornography and this is changing their perceptions of their 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:08.640 female classmates. Tends to be the boys, but not only 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:12.360 the boys, but it's changing their mindset toward their female 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:16.200 classmates at a very young age. Now, this is an 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:19.479 age where they can't really comprehend what's going on. And 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:23.599 although the innocent exposure, the accidental exposure, might be the 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:29.240 first exposure, if they become over exposed to these terrible images, 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:32.680 they will then no doubt go and seek them themselves. 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:34.760 So we create a big problem. I want to speak 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:37.600 to Melissa Abu Gazale. She's the founder of an organizations 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:41.960 to charity called top Blokes, and that's in regard to 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:44.120 all of these warnings about children in fact as young 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:45.960 as six, I think I said ten to seven and 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:52.440 six accessing pornography. It's a big issue. Whereas once upon 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:54.200 a time, you know, someone's dad might have had a 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.279 couple of playboys under the bed and you know you 0:04:56.400 --> 0:05:01.760 saw them. These days, with the Internet and so called smartphones, 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:06.080 very very graphic stuff is being shown to very vulnerable 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:08.800 mind it's a problem and a lot of parents, in 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:11.200 fact a lot of young boys, no, it's a problem, 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:12.760 but they don't know what to do about. They don't 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:14.520 know where to turn. That's why I speak to Melissa 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:16.680 about all of that. Blake will be here with Pretzel wealth. 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:19.320 Of course, we had the inflation numbers Banksmack where the 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:22.680 RBA wants them two point four percent the headline figure. 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:25.280 As I said, we'll get the footy tips from Chuck later. 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:31.160 And we have had the coalition agree to a new 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:35.520 official reunited Opposition force, so the Nationals and the Libs 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:39.720 back together. Now. The exact details of that agreement around 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:42.920 say the Regional Future Fund or nuclear power or divestiture 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:46.880 or whatever. The exact details still remain unclear, but they 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:48.760 will have been worked out to a degree. As I said, 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:52.119 my bet from last week was that the nuclear issue 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:55.919 would be resolved to the extent that the Liberals would 0:05:55.920 --> 0:06:02.159 pledge to support lifting the morator aureum, the ban on 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:05.080 nuclear power, but nothing more. The rest will be left 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:07.159 to be worked out or whatever the language will be. 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:08.919 I think that's where they will have got to on that, 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:10.800 and that'll be enough for the Nats for the time being. 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:14.760 They understand united, they'll fall together. They've got half a 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:18.520 chance to do something, so they're back together. Later today 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:20.440 we're going to find out who gets what in Susan 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:24.039 Lee's shadow cabinet. Now, this will be interesting, This will 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:28.240 be interesting. Sky sources all over the place saying they 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:31.000 believe this person's going to be shadow treasurer, this person's out, 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:34.960 and okay, let's see they're probably right. But my attention 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:38.159 this afternoon will be on two different issues. Where will 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:42.080 Tim Wilson end up? And I would be incredibly surprised 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:46.719 if it isn't somewhere within the Treasury orbit shadow Assistant 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:49.960 treasure or something like that Finance minister who knows. But 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:53.560 also let's see where just Senter Price is put, if anywhere, 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:57.880 if anywhere, there is a rumble that at best she'll 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:01.800 be an assistant shadow. Yeah, not much. In other words, 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:05.160 you'll be there, but nowhere near the center of power. Now, look, 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:09.320 I get you didn't have an incredible campaign. No one did. 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:11.600 But there again, she probably wasn't allowed to have much 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:14.360 of a campaign. That was an oversight by the Liberal 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:17.120 machine behind the scenes. You gotta let her rip a bit. 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:21.000 Centerprice could be if she goes down the right path 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:24.120 and is guided in the right way with the right portfolio, 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:26.320 she could be a future prime minister. She could be 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:29.560 our first indigenous prime minister, and that would be something 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:33.240 very significant if the Liberal Party were able to deliver it. 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:42.080 And yet if they suppress her shadow portfolios, then there 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:45.200 is no way she'll get to that potential end destination. 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:49.240 There's very few in the shadow front bench whatever it's 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:53.000 going to be announced later today that anyone can envisage 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:57.000 as a future prime minister, very few of them. But 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:01.240 Centerprice is one that I think could, if given the 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:05.360 right run, get there. But if the hurdles are put 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:09.559 too high at the beginning of the steeplechase, she won't 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:13.280 go anywhere. Now, the Liberal Party, Susan Leip has to 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:15.840 think carefully about this. There'll be moderates and whatever. Oh, 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:18.360 she's a radical right wing I can't let her. Okay, 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:22.200 you've got to get just enterprise out of indigenous affairs 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:25.040 to an extent. Let her dabble a toes in some 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:28.560 other ponds elsewhere. Try and see if she's got what 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:33.760 it takes in something associated with health or education or 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:38.959 something like that, a more broad portfolio. And if she succeeds, 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:42.840 if she can hold the government alternative to account, she 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:46.600 will start to build up her broader cudos. But they've 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:49.680 got to make that happen. So today will be a test. 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:51.920 Let's see what happens when you set a price one three, 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:53.760 one eight seven three the number keep the text coming 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:56.599 all day, of course, zero four's zero six. I don't know. 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:59.000 Hang on, what are we zero four six, zero eight 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:02.720 seven three eight seven. There's one for you, and there's 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:05.120 always there. I should get it right by now. There's 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:07.559 always the email as well asn't there TGB dot com 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:16.240 Click on the feedback icon. Okay, well, where are we? 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:19.439 Almost nineteen past twelve? Interesting comments were made the other day, 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:23.000 by the way, by the former Northern Territory Chief Minister 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:26.199 Shane Stone, and the comments are about the issue of 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:29.640 poker machines. Now, you recall last year the broader issue 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:32.880 of gambling reform was a pretty hot topic, Peter Dutton 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:36.400 effectively leading from opposition calling for a crackdown on betting 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:40.280 ads during live sport. Now there was about as close 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:43.360 to bipartisan supporting political circles as you're likely to get, 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:48.640 except when it came to actually putting the sentiments into legislation, 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:52.600 the Government balked and next to nothing, of course, has 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:55.960 been done ever since. Now, make no mistake, the gambling 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:59.960 lobby in this country are extremely powerful and their lobby 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:04.559 no which doors to knock. And probably nowhere is this 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:06.720 more obvious than when it comes to the saturation of 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:08.880 poker machines in places like New South Wales and the 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:12.760 Northern Territory. Now, despite former prime ministers and premieres all 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:15.040 agreeing that we've got way too many of these things 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:17.600 per capita, nothing of course, has ever done to rein 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:20.720 it in And like the debate about the Australian Flag 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:23.400 or Australia Day, the issue of poker machine seems to 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:29.040 come and go from the headlines with monotonous regularity. So 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:32.000 back to Shane Stone. Now speaking to the Financial Review, 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:35.199 he admits his main regret twenty five years on from 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:40.320 leading the territory was squibbing gambling reform. As he said 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:43.199 to Zoey Samuos quote, if I had had the courage 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:46.120 of my convictions, I would have wound back the poker 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:49.920 machine numbers. But I didn't do that. As he went 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:52.480 on to say, I wish we never had poker machines 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:54.960 in the Northern Territory. They were already there when I 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:58.480 got there, but they also expanded on my watch, as 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:02.280 they did on every chief minister's watch. Now, look, I 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:06.080 give mister Stone great credit for such honesty, but I'll 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:09.040 lask too many of our political class only express such candor, 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:12.440 clarity and conviction when removed from the shackles of office, 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:15.320 And of course by then it's too late. As the 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:17.560 saying goes, we're all wise in hindsight, But when it 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:19.720 comes to poker machines, it seems that saying is akin 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:23.520 to a commandment. And now Stone, look, he's not advocating 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:26.559 for prohibition or banning poker machines. Of course, that wouldn't 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:30.080 be possible, and I don't think it'd be useful because 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:32.760 it had just defer the issue of problem gambling elsewhere. 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:36.560 But he does suggest that state governments introduced stricter measures 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:41.120 to minimize the harm that these things can cause. Now again, 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:44.680 who could disagree? But then you have to remember that 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:48.520 there are three beneficiaries of the millions and millions poured 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:52.840 through poker machines every week. One is the company that 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:56.920 owns them, the other is the pub, club or casino 0:11:56.960 --> 0:12:01.480 that houses them, and the third is the state treasury. 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:04.079 Now forget the Northern Territory for a moment. Right here 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:06.720 in New South Wales we are second to only Nevada 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:10.040 when it comes to poker machines, with more than eighty 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:12.760 eight thousand of the things, or one for every ninety 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:15.160 two people. And of course, if you start to slice 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:18.120 and dice those numbers based on postcode or area, there'd 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:20.000 be places where the ratio is far close to one 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:24.680 in fifty or lower. But as Shaneestone says, the government's 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:28.880 very reluctant to act because of this addiction to revenue 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:33.320 from paying machines. Now that revenue are you sitting down? 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:38.160 Was close to two point twenty five billion for Macquarie 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:42.200 Street a year or two ago two point two five billion, 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:47.559 close to five percent of the state's annual tax revenue. 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:51.199 And while John Howard has even declared poker machines a 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:53.320 grave social evil, and he said that he'd be willing 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:55.760 to push the Liberals to take on the gaming lobby, 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:58.160 the real question that has to be asked is this, 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:03.160 what does take on the lobby actually entail? Because you know, 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:04.960 there's no point just saying we're going to get tough 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:08.160 on the gaming industry or gambling industry without having a 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:12.480 solid plan about what that looks like in practice. I mean, 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:15.240 is it going to be cashless gaming cards, of forced 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:18.360 reduction in machines, and beyond the slots, will there be 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:20.839 an effort to rein in all of those ads around 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:22.440 live sport. I mean, all of this sort of stuff 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:25.680 has to be worked out first. But look, I won't 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:28.760 be holding my breath. It's not as if problem gambling 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:32.320 and the ubiquity of gaming machines is breaking news. Residents 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:35.000 of New South Wales alone threw over eight point six 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:38.000 billion dollars into pub and club poker machines just last year. 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:41.720 Story's abound of young men in particular ending up in 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:44.960 horrible situations from blowing the lot on these gambling apps, 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:48.520 which becomes synonymous with footy, cricket and tennis. Marriages have 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:51.840 been lost, families torn apart, house are sold, and yet, 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:55.520 aside from removing those ridiculous Neon signs with dragons and 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:59.600 cascading coins from pub doorways, very little has been done. Now. 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:03.199 The pair Day government took a significant gambling reform agenda 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:07.240 to the twenty twenty three election but lost. Dutton tried 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:10.040 to do something about it and lost. I'm not sure 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:11.920 Chris Men's is eager to do too much in this 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:15.840 space now. As I always say when this issue comes up, 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:20.600 the inter libertarian in me acknowledges the issue of personal agency. 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:23.840 And you know, in an ideal world, yes, people without 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:26.760 money to spare will just walk past the poker machine 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:30.480 or leave the betting app alone. But that utopia isn't 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:34.760 the real world, and governments that profit from gambling and 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:38.480 who have the power to regulate gambling have a responsibility 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:43.720 to minimize as best as possible the harm caused by gambling. Now, 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:46.600 in my opinion, they're not doing enough and it's a shame. 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:50.240 Only those who are ex politicians seem to be the 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:53.280 ones leading the calls to act twenty eight minutes past 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:55.240 twelve one three, one eight seven three, Keep the text 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:57.800 coming zero four six zero eight seven three eight seven three. 0:14:57.800 --> 0:14:59.360 I'll get to some of the texts in just a moment. 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:02.640 Are Scott Morel will join me later this hour. Don't 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:05.600 forget we're going to We've got this incredible prize this 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:08.440 week for you, and each day we're going to put 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:11.120 one of our lucky listeners in the draw to win 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:14.239 the National Wine Festival Prize. 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We'll play it later in the 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:30.320 program and when you hear it one three, one eight 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:32.720 seven to three and three you come and the nominated 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:35.680 caller goes in the draw will announce the winner on Friday. 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:37.880 The cut call the song that you got to listen 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:48.560 out for is this one bit, So when you hear 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:50.600 that later in the show, get on that open line 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:54.200 as quick as a flash, and if you're the nominated caller, 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:57.520 you're going to the running for the Great Princess super 0:15:57.560 --> 0:16:01.520 Prize with the National Wine Festival one eight seven three 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:04.280 On the text, interesting note came through. So we'll speak 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:06.040 about this issue of pornography and the young ones a 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:08.400 little late. It's something I know many of you because 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:11.120 you've written to me about it worried about. And a 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:13.560 lot of people, parents and grandparents and care has filled 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:16.280 sort of powerless as to what to do. They know 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:18.720 what's going on, they don't know where to start the conversation. 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:21.160 It's sort of a bit foreign to them, depending on 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:24.560 their generation, because online porn wasn't a thing, and so 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:28.280 people don't really know how to approach this with their kids. 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:31.960 One lady writing to me here says, I was absolutely horrified. 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:35.680 Our ten year old son recently, he's in year five, 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:38.560 came to me feeling very confused about how all of 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:43.200 his peers at lunchtime were talking about pornhub year five, 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:47.280 ten years old. As parents, we've worked so hard, not 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:50.920 allowing online gaming, not allowing YouTube or internet scrolling, and 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:53.840 still he's been exposed to this. He said, he hasn't 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:56.680 been shown any images. But really, from the extent of 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:58.920 the detail that he gave me, this is coming from 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:04.040 his mother that his peers explained to him he may 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:06.760 as well as a mother. I'm completely heartbroken and gutted 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:09.040 that our young son's been exposed to this. It's a disgrace. 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:11.439 I feel like the only way we can truly protect 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:14.680 our son and daughter is to now homeschool them. Otherwise 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:17.320 we're just sending them out into the world that's destroying 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:20.520 young people. Well, I'm not a massive advocate of homeschooling. 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:22.359 I mean, the real world is the real world, and 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:24.760 they're going to see that first and foremost at school. 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:29.639 But this is the problem. Parents feel powerless what to 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:34.439 protect our children. We'll have the appropriate sex conversation and 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:37.359 all of that sort at the right time. But when 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:43.000 others are stealing that right from parents because they're exposing 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:46.920 fellow classmates and other kids as young as ten or 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:49.240 eight some of these stories and it's more than one 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:56.119 suggests to pornography, then that really changes the dynamic, and 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:57.600 a lot of parents say, well what do we do, 0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:00.800 because you know, I mean, I've got Natalie who's not 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:03.680 even four. There's no way I'd be sitting down with 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:06.680 a story. It's far too young. But you know, once 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:08.919 upon a time, I think it's ah, well, in the 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:11.040 early years of high school, maybe that's when you have 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:15.600 these conversations. And then with every generation that that conversation 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:18.919 has started earlier. It does seem that a lot of 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:22.280 particularly young girls seem to be hitting puberty earlier than 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:25.520 their peers in generations gone by. That's sort of the 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:29.080 anecdotal evidence. So there's a whole thing going on out there. 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:31.760 What role exposure to pornography in all that place? I've 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:35.439 got no idea, not a bioscientist, but it all just 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:39.560 seems to be anecdotally lining up. But at what age 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:42.360 do you have that conversation? In fact, look you're listening here, 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:44.679 you might this might be exactly you. I mean, you 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:48.080 tell others from your experience. At what age do you 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:51.800 have that conversation with the kids. So it said, I 0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:53.920 think when I went through school, maybe we were twelve 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:58.399 something like that, it sort of started. And that's appropriate. Well, 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:01.280 it was then, but that was twenty one years ago. 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:06.200 Whole generations come through since then, the internet is everywhere 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:09.960 out We were sort of the cutting edge of computers 0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:12.320 and Internet, and it's a thing called Google and all 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:14.080 of that. When I was in high school, it's all different. 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:16.800 Now we didn't have smartphones, there were no apps, there 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:19.520 no porn hub and only fans and all that rot. 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:22.960 So now the kid's eyes are seeing things that we 0:19:23.040 --> 0:19:27.080 never saw. And so perhaps, just perhaps those conversations have 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:32.080 to start earlier. But you have to redefine and refine 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:37.560 those conversations. It's it's tough. It's really hard. One three, 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:40.320 one eight seven three the open line number. Now, look, 0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:43.080 just another issue. This popped into the inbox the other day. 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:44.560 And I've never had a pet dogs. I don't know 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:48.119 too much about dogs, but those of you that do 0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:53.640 might There's Food Allergy Week I think coming up. In fact, 0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:55.880 it's this week, this week, Food Allergy Week, twenty fifth 0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:58.440 of the thirty first of May. And most people think, okay, 0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:01.240 it's about humans. It properly is. But according to this 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:04.320 press release, new research reveals a concerning increase in food 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:08.800 sensitivities and allergies among dogs, with a number of Australian 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:13.879 pet owners buying allergy specific dog foods increasing by seventy 0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:15.920 five percent over the past twelve months now that might 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:18.000 be coming from a low base. I've got no idea, 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:21.639 but it's the issue more broadly of dogs with food allergies. 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:25.040 Now be naive to think it's not possible, of course, 0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:27.840 but it's like, look, it's just nothing I've ever thought about. 0:20:28.280 --> 0:20:30.240 As dog owners out there. Do you have a pet 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:32.679 that's got a food allergy? And we were told you 0:20:32.680 --> 0:20:34.399 don't feed them chocolate and you've got to be careful 0:20:34.440 --> 0:20:38.320 with this and certain types of food. That's pretty well established. 0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:43.639 But it's sort of the whole thing around allergies tends 0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:46.960 to be mentally linked to human beings. I think we're 0:20:47.000 --> 0:20:49.560 talking about children. That seems to be the focus. You know, 0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:52.560 make sure that the kids get exposure of peanut, peanuts 0:20:52.560 --> 0:20:55.280 and eggs and all these sort of things crustaceans over 0:20:55.320 --> 0:20:56.800 a certain period of time and you work out if 0:20:56.840 --> 0:21:02.639 they're allergic or not. Dogs who knows anyway, that seems 0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:04.320 to be an issue here. So we might have a 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:06.000 chat to someone later in the week about it, but 0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:08.560 you might have some experiences of your own. One three, 0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:11.280 one eight seven three. Now, as I said, we don't 0:21:11.280 --> 0:21:14.040 know where the Coalition agreements landed on atomic energy and 0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:17.199 nuclear power. My suspicion. I think I'll be proved right 0:21:17.320 --> 0:21:20.720 later today when the agreement is detailed. I imagine to 0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:25.119 some extent in a leak is that the moratorium on 0:21:25.280 --> 0:21:28.680 nuclear power will be lifted as far as opposition official 0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:32.520 opposition policy. But nothing more, nothing more, nothing about government built, 0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:36.280 funded run nuclear power stations or any of that. Now, 0:21:37.560 --> 0:21:40.760 many people have interpreted the recent election result as a 0:21:40.920 --> 0:21:44.240 vote of no confidence in nuclear power in Australia. I 0:21:44.240 --> 0:21:47.120 think that's a misreading of the situation. But I again 0:21:47.200 --> 0:21:49.840 might be wrong, but interesting to note what's happening around 0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:53.000 the world. You get the impression here on nuclear power, 0:21:53.000 --> 0:21:55.200 forget it. It's all over, never going to happen. The 0:21:55.240 --> 0:21:58.120 tide's gone. We missed the boat. All the other analogies 0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:01.520 around the world where it is already established technology. It's 0:22:01.560 --> 0:22:05.800 a different, in fact opposite story. And as Gus mccubbing 0:22:05.840 --> 0:22:08.760 wrote in The finn Review the other day, the army 0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:13.480 of short sellers targeting uranium stocks was scrambling to cover 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:16.920 its position Friday last week, following reports that the US 0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:19.760 President Donald Trump was about to sign executive orders that 0:22:19.920 --> 0:22:25.040 aim to jumpstart the nuclear energy industry as soon as Friday. 0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:27.720 Now I don't think he did it on Friday, but 0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:30.440 I suspect this is coming, and the orders are set 0:22:30.480 --> 0:22:33.400 to ease the regulatory process for the approval of new reactors, 0:22:33.840 --> 0:22:36.800 strengthen fuel supply chains. This is all coming from Reuters. 0:22:37.320 --> 0:22:39.680 The fin Review says Trump is also expected to invoke 0:22:39.760 --> 0:22:43.040 Cold War era legislation to declare a national emergency over 0:22:43.040 --> 0:22:48.240 America's dependence on Russia and China for enriched uranium. Okay, 0:22:48.400 --> 0:22:51.119 that makes sense. Of course, Australia has I think the 0:22:51.119 --> 0:22:54.439 world's largest known uranium deposit down there Olympic Dam at 0:22:54.480 --> 0:23:00.639 South Australia. So maybe, just maybe Australia's connectivity with nuclear 0:23:00.680 --> 0:23:04.679 power isn't done and dusted just yet. Maybe domestically we 0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:07.359 won't see much energy created, but internationally there could be 0:23:07.400 --> 0:23:10.199 greater demand than ever before for the resources we have, 0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:14.359 which makes our position to continue to ban it I 0:23:14.359 --> 0:23:17.199 think so nonsensical. But you can add that to the 0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:19.920 basketball the other nonsensical decisions that we hold as policy. 0:23:19.920 --> 0:23:22.280 I suppose it's twenty three minutes to one. Great to 0:23:22.320 --> 0:23:24.760 be with you, it is nineteen minutes to one one three, 0:23:24.840 --> 0:23:28.399 one eight seven three the open line number. Well, once 0:23:28.480 --> 0:23:30.639 the final frontier, that's what we used to call it. 0:23:30.800 --> 0:23:33.840 Space is now front of mind in I think almost 0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:36.920 every nation. And we first did have the space race, 0:23:36.960 --> 0:23:40.159 of course, likes of the USSR United States, racing to 0:23:40.200 --> 0:23:42.479 be the first to break out of this world and 0:23:43.160 --> 0:23:45.320 get man on the Moon and the rest of it. However, 0:23:45.359 --> 0:23:48.720 with the advent of technology, things like satellite navigation, for example, 0:23:49.119 --> 0:23:51.800 the need for a bigger focus on space has become 0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:54.800 more and more clear. And as the world becomes I 0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:58.680 think more dangerous Jura politically. From a military perspective, space 0:23:58.840 --> 0:24:02.280 is also a very crucial I don't want to use 0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:05.040 the term battlefield, but you know what I mean in 0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:08.639 that conversation. So much so that the former Prime Minister 0:24:08.640 --> 0:24:11.600 Scott Morrison has called for a let's call it Phase 0:24:11.640 --> 0:24:15.040 three of the Orcus Agreement. Of course he helped craft 0:24:15.040 --> 0:24:17.840 the original Orcus Agreement, and it's to take our partnership 0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:20.479 with the UK and the US beyond subs, missiles and 0:24:20.800 --> 0:24:26.080 military technology and into space. Now, mister Morrison spoke of 0:24:26.119 --> 0:24:29.000 the twenty twenty five Australian Space Summit in Darling Harbor yesterday. 0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:30.320 You might have heard a little of what he had 0:24:30.320 --> 0:24:32.320 to say he made the point that we need to 0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:35.360 play our part as a rising actor with the potential 0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:39.480 to plug important holes in allied capabilities. Now, I think 0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:42.120 the message from that summit seemed to be that if 0:24:42.160 --> 0:24:44.399 you don't have a presence in space, you may as 0:24:44.400 --> 0:24:47.359 well not have a defense force. It's something that we 0:24:47.520 --> 0:24:49.280 and the ADF and everybody, I guess have to think 0:24:49.280 --> 0:24:52.359 about now. Scott Morrison, as you know, former Prime Minister, 0:24:52.359 --> 0:24:54.600 but he is now the chairman of the Advisory Board 0:24:54.960 --> 0:24:57.880 for Space Center Australia and I'm very pleased to say 0:24:57.880 --> 0:25:00.119 that he's with me on the line. Scott, Mary some 0:25:00.200 --> 0:25:00.800 good afternoon. 0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:02.080 Gooday, how are you? 0:25:02.200 --> 0:25:04.000 I'm well, thank you, I'm well, thank you. Before we 0:25:04.040 --> 0:25:07.520 get into that state of origin, tonight blues by how many? 0:25:08.760 --> 0:25:10.080 Oh by six six? 0:25:10.280 --> 0:25:12.120 Where are the Cronella players? What's going on? 0:25:13.119 --> 0:25:16.439 It wasn't it particularly good weekend, So I'll be licking 0:25:16.440 --> 0:25:18.000 their wounds and coming back strong. 0:25:18.160 --> 0:25:19.600 Yeah, a full team and still lost. 0:25:20.119 --> 0:25:23.280 Any Yeah it was. It wasn't the best weekend, but 0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:25.320 we'll bounce back. The boys will go well. 0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:27.040 It's cruel of me to raise that, but as West 0:25:27.040 --> 0:25:30.680 Tiger's found, I feel comfortable doing it now. Let's look 0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:34.880 at you've had your bad days days decades, let's look 0:25:34.880 --> 0:25:37.240 at space, because we don't want to have bad days 0:25:37.440 --> 0:25:39.159 from a defense point of view going forward. This is 0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:41.280 very serious. Now some people think this is all Star 0:25:41.320 --> 0:25:44.520 Wars and science fiction stuff, but really it could be 0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:47.000 the future battlefield in many respects, couldn't it. 0:25:47.680 --> 0:25:49.680 Well, it controls so much. I mean you just think 0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:52.120 about your daily life every time you jump in the car, 0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:54.199 every time you get on your phone, every time. You 0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:57.760 know what is up in space is actually directing so 0:25:57.920 --> 0:25:59.959 much of the technology and the things that we use 0:26:00.400 --> 0:26:03.560 every day. And it's no different in the defense area. 0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:08.960 I mean guided weapons systems, early warning systems, being able 0:26:09.000 --> 0:26:11.800 to detect, surveil, all of these things. How you guide 0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:15.000 and navigate all of this depends on what's in space, 0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:18.200 and you get things like hypersonic missiles now which move 0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:21.840 too fast for a warning when it comes to a 0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:25.160 traditional radar system. So you know, what happens in space 0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:28.679 pretty much can govern the effectiveness of everything you do 0:26:28.760 --> 0:26:32.320 on land, sea and air. And back in twenty twenty 0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:36.280 when I was Prime Minister, in the Defense Strategic Update, 0:26:36.359 --> 0:26:38.680 we called this out and said, well, you know, space 0:26:38.840 --> 0:26:43.720 will be a warfare domain and we need to prepare 0:26:43.760 --> 0:26:46.040 for that, and so we set up the National Space Command. 0:26:46.080 --> 0:26:51.359 We invested in our space capabilities and that continues, although 0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:53.119 we are a few changes after we left office, but 0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:56.639 that's it. It remains an important part of what our 0:26:56.680 --> 0:27:00.639 defense forces and our civil space industry does, and so 0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:03.600 it's a natural progression to work with the United States 0:27:03.600 --> 0:27:06.640 and the UK that also have very particularly the US 0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:12.359 sophisticated space capabilities that we use the partnership that we 0:27:12.400 --> 0:27:16.720 have in UCUS, I think to develop this area as well, 0:27:16.760 --> 0:27:18.359 which will be so critical to us all. 0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:19.800 I mean, one of the things with UCUS I think 0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:23.040 a lot of people misunderstand or forget, and no doubt 0:27:23.040 --> 0:27:25.040 it frustrates you and did as Prime Minister, is that 0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:28.720 it's more than just submarines. There is a lot to UCUS, 0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:32.920 hence Stage one and Stage two missile technology, quite a 0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:35.879 lot of trade as part of this arrangement as well. 0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:38.480 You're saying let's take it to the third level out 0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:38.959 of space. 0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:41.920 Well, that's true. And I think particularly that the focus 0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:44.199 in the US has in particularly President Trump, and when 0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:47.640 it was back in twenty nineteen when I was there 0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:50.679 with President Trump, we announced that we were supporting our 0:27:50.720 --> 0:27:53.760 business as in our space industry to get involved in 0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:57.399 the munder Mars mission, the Artemis mission, and we committed 0:27:57.400 --> 0:27:59.760 one hundred and fifty million at that time to support 0:27:59.800 --> 0:28:03.040 our industry and we've developed new technologies to support that. 0:28:03.440 --> 0:28:05.480 I was bumped into a whole bunch of companies yesterday 0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:08.439 down in Darling Harbor who benefited from those programs and 0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:12.320 has been developing satellites and other types of technology that 0:28:12.400 --> 0:28:16.560 can support that mission. So you know we're there. We 0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:20.720 can achieve it, and it's something that we do quite 0:28:20.760 --> 0:28:23.679 well because of our geography. I mean, particularly what we 0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:27.119 do in the surveillance area, I mean the advanced telescopes 0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:31.600 and radars that we have up in Western Australia. The 0:28:31.640 --> 0:28:34.440 real need is to develop a lot of these satcom 0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:38.960 capabilities for our defense and civil industries. And so there's 0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:41.160 a lot that we can do and will do, and 0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:43.480 it's better to do it in partnership with our allies 0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:46.320 and partners. And the best partnership we have is in 0:28:46.360 --> 0:28:50.040 aucust which is streets ahead of everything else and has 0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:55.360 survived changes of government in three countries and today it's 0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:58.120 as committed to by every jurisdiction as it was when 0:28:58.480 --> 0:29:01.120 you know I first put it together with Boris Johnson 0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:02.480 and Joe Biden. 0:29:03.600 --> 0:29:06.200 Some would say, I guess, just like the nuclear power, 0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:08.440 one could say to the doubters here at no time 0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:10.560 like the present. But is there a risk here that 0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:13.400 we're getting a bit ahead of ourselves as well, Scott, 0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:16.280 because I mean we can at the moment put about 0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:19.120 one columns class summarine in the water at any given time. 0:29:19.680 --> 0:29:22.520 You know, the army doesn't have the numbers that it wants. 0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:26.480 Recruitments a big challenge. We're way behind the eight ball 0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:28.680 when it comes to drone technology. And I mean some 0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:30.720 would say, look, why don't we just get the terrestrial 0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:32.560 thing right first and then we'll do without a space 0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:34.080 what's the retort to that. 0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:37.280 Well, there's two One is we should be getting to 0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:40.400 three percent of judy top and defense spending, and so 0:29:40.600 --> 0:29:42.800 you know it shouldn't be an either or when it 0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:45.480 comes to doing these things. And I mean that is 0:29:45.520 --> 0:29:47.640 where I mean, I've just got back from Europe a 0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:52.080 few weeks ago and in London and they're all moving 0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:55.200 in that direction. Japan's moving in that direction. And because 0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:57.280 of the world we now live in getting up at 0:29:57.360 --> 0:30:00.239 least to that three percent level is just where going 0:30:00.280 --> 0:30:02.720 to have to be to be a functional defense for us. 0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:07.040 And you know we lifted spending considerably when we're in government, 0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:10.200 and that job needs to continue. I mean, the submarine 0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:12.840 program gets you a fair way there, but then you've 0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:14.840 got to make sure you're not taking it from other 0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:18.560 parts of your defense, both spending, and that's that's the issue. 0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:21.880 And I wish Minister Males well and the arguments he 0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:23.840 has to make in cabinet for that, and I'd support 0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:27.240 him strongly in getting us moving in that direction because 0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:30.120 it will be expected from our allies. The second point 0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:32.760 I'd make though, is, as I said, that what you 0:30:32.840 --> 0:30:35.240 have in space determines what you can do on land 0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:39.240 and in sea. And we have important responsibilities in our 0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:44.320 alliances monitoring the Indo Pacific Marit time domain and you know, 0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:48.680 the whole Southwest Pacific, and this is what enables us 0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:51.040 to do it. It's sort of it's core business for 0:30:51.160 --> 0:30:54.880 us having these capabilities, and we have to be able 0:30:54.920 --> 0:30:56.960 to do both. Yeah, we need the drones and yes 0:30:57.000 --> 0:31:01.040 we need the guide of weapons and initiative to continue, 0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:03.520 which we commence when we're in government, you've got to 0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:06.200 do all of this. It's increasingly because of the world 0:31:06.200 --> 0:31:10.920 we live in. You don't get to walk back from 0:31:11.080 --> 0:31:14.080 many of these things. You pick the things you're best at, 0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:17.960 and space is one where I think we are very 0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:21.200 very good at that kicking because of our geography and 0:31:20.920 --> 0:31:22.360 how we adapt. 0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:24.360 And our history there. I think the other point here, 0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:26.320 of course, is that space is increasingly going to be 0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:29.120 that the front line between the US China strategic rivalry. 0:31:29.200 --> 0:31:32.600 So if we've hedged our wagon to the United States, 0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:35.280 we've got a role to play, I guess theoretically, and 0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:38.240 I use analogy with the Ukraine earlier in the minerals 0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:41.560 deal from a purely selfish Australian point of view, the 0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:44.320 further integrated the Americans and to an extent, the British 0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:47.520 military but broader economy is with ours, the more skin 0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:50.200 they have in the game here but American business, as 0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:54.160 American personnel, American technology, American interests, the more likely they 0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:59.280 are to come to our assistance should the worst happen. Geostrategically, 0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:01.200 I mean, there's a logic, isn't there to have them 0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:03.000 as heavily and measured as possible. 0:32:03.280 --> 0:32:06.880 Well that's true, but my experience of that alliance and 0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:10.000 relationship is it's in my mind that's never been in doubt. 0:32:10.440 --> 0:32:12.680 But what you're saying is also true that that just 0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:16.240 only doubles down. And the more integrated we are, the 0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:19.560 more able we are to work together and most importantly, 0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:22.360 put the de terrence in place. I mean a lot 0:32:22.440 --> 0:32:25.240 gets focused on, you know, when when the bullets start firing, 0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:28.400 but the whole point of doing all of this is 0:32:28.440 --> 0:32:32.600 to ensure that they never get fired. You have this 0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:37.040 credible de terrence, and aucas was about that. It was 0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:40.880 about creating that significant de terrence. So Jijingping wakes up 0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:44.520 every day and says, no, not today, and that has 0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:50.200 to keep happening forever basically, and that doesn't happen. You've 0:32:50.200 --> 0:32:52.240 got to deal with the immediate threats now, but you've 0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:54.280 got to be able to be dealing with the longer 0:32:54.360 --> 0:32:56.920 term capabilities as well, which is you know, that's where 0:32:56.920 --> 0:33:00.800 the nuclear powered submarines comes in. But the earlier face 0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:03.720 stuff in Pillar two of Walkers is very much about 0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:06.440 meeting those more immediate needs. And then what I'm talking 0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:10.320 about with Pillar three in space is it actually helps 0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:13.520 all of those areas and it's an area where I 0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:16.280 know President Trump has been very committed, whether it's in 0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:20.560 the civil space industry. But now he's talking about Golden Dome, 0:33:20.600 --> 0:33:23.200 which is a great initiative and potentially we may have 0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:24.360 been able to play a role there. 0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:27.320 Okay, just finally in the one minute left, Jiji Ping 0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:30.480 hopefully says no, not today every day, but David Little 0:33:30.480 --> 0:33:33.080 Proud and Susan Lee said yes today thankfully, and the 0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:34.600 coalition band is back together. 0:33:34.840 --> 0:33:38.880 Any thoughts, Yeah, pleased, looks the rocky road there for 0:33:38.880 --> 0:33:41.240 the last couple of weeks, but I think Susan kept 0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:43.600 her eye very much on the board about what was 0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:46.720 needed and it's important to have a coalition in place, 0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:50.200 but it's also have a coalition that is one that 0:33:50.880 --> 0:33:54.640 enables both parties to get the job done and not 0:33:54.720 --> 0:33:59.360 be making compromises which makes the partnership uneasy. So good 0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:02.520 on Susan, you know, holding a ground there. And I'm 0:34:02.600 --> 0:34:05.040 very pleased to Nationals have come on board and now 0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:07.520 they've got to focus on the real task ahead, and 0:34:07.560 --> 0:34:10.040 that is to stand up for good policy that you 0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:13.080 know all about aspiration and people been able to get 0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:15.520 ahead and have the opportunity to do that, so you've 0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:17.960 got an economy that can support the services that the 0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:18.799 strainers rely on. 0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:21.600 Do you think we'll have US Ambassador Morrison to Washington? 0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:26.439 No, not a job I have any interest in doing. 0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:27.960 I'm enjoying what I'm doing. 0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:28.360 Now. 0:34:29.719 --> 0:34:32.440 Well that's kind of you to say, but you know 0:34:32.480 --> 0:34:35.319 there's others who are very keen on doing those jobs, 0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:36.920 and I wish them very well. I mean when I 0:34:36.960 --> 0:34:39.840 travel these days, and I do a lot, I have 0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:43.080 a lot of interaction with our ambassades, particularly with Kevin 0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:46.000 and Stephen in the UK and the US are US 0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:48.920 and ucas say, and you know where I can as 0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:51.040 a form prime minister, I seek to help what the 0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:54.399 country's trying to do and I think that's an important role. 0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:56.560 I mean, I'm the head off to Ukraine and do 0:34:56.640 --> 0:35:01.040 something similar there and really just want to is demonstrating 0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:04.000 that Australia remains very committed to what we're seeking to 0:35:04.040 --> 0:35:06.120 do there. I was a Prime minister when that that 0:35:07.080 --> 0:35:10.719 walk started, that illegal war and invasion from Russia, and 0:35:10.800 --> 0:35:12.319 it's important to. 0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:14.359 Be there and it is it is. 0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:17.160 I thought i'd try. I thought i'd try. Scott Morrison, 0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:19.640 I very much thank you for your time. Good on 0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:22.760 you talk all the best former Prime Minister Scott Morrison. 0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:25.279 A lot of very positive feedback about Scott Morrison coming 0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:27.680 through as well, and many people making the point not 0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:30.360 one are more are really you just got straight to 0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:32.399 it and said it how it is and you didn't 0:35:32.400 --> 0:35:34.800 hold back on the issue there with jijingping or anything. 0:35:34.880 --> 0:35:37.920 So some saying that's a bit of a refreshing change 0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:39.360 to what we've got used to. 0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:45.960 News is next now onto GB and network stations. Back 0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:48.600 to afternoons with Michael McLaren. 0:35:50.120 --> 0:35:51.920 All right into the second hour. Thank you for your company. 0:35:51.960 --> 0:35:53.960 Beautiful day out there. I hope you're getting to enjoy it. 0:35:54.000 --> 0:35:56.439 One three one eight seven three is the open line number. 0:35:56.440 --> 0:35:58.279 Thank you for the text messages as well. Zero for 0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:01.520 six zero eight seven three seven three. Got it right 0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:05.120 this time, Greg says intergalactic space wars for me, the 0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:07.520 potholes and a train that runs on time. There's someone 0:36:07.520 --> 0:36:10.920 else's problem. I get the sarcasm, Greg, but the issue 0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:15.160 is Scott Morrison, I think rightly said if indeed we 0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:18.080 are not invested in this space, and that's where and 0:36:18.120 --> 0:36:21.920 I use that term advisedly, and this is then you know, 0:36:22.080 --> 0:36:26.600 war breaks out or something goes wrong, then the potholes 0:36:26.640 --> 0:36:28.520 and the trains will be the least of your worries. 0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:31.960 Let's put it that way. So it's about walking and 0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:35.480 chewing gum at the same time, it's about being across 0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:39.480 every aspect of national defense, which is necessary. But at 0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:42.399 the same time politics is always local, as they say, 0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:44.719 and having a focus on the issues that matter on 0:36:44.760 --> 0:36:49.759 the ground for the times of peace where issues of 0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:53.920 sovereignty don't count, and I think we can do both. 0:36:54.280 --> 0:36:56.640 A lot of text messages Roger making a sort of 0:36:56.719 --> 0:36:59.000 historical point, and I think he's right where he says 0:36:59.000 --> 0:37:02.640 the reason why China assertive and at times aggressive in 0:37:02.680 --> 0:37:05.000 our current day and age is because of the centuries 0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:09.000 of humili or the century singular of humiliation, and they 0:37:09.080 --> 0:37:12.480 refer to that in China. The way that the Europeans 0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:15.680 and especially the British treated China in the eighteen hundreds 0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:20.200 has made them the way they are today. That informs it, 0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:22.319 there's no doubt about it. You can add on top 0:37:22.320 --> 0:37:25.759 of that a very thick layer of communism, but that 0:37:25.920 --> 0:37:29.279 is certainly part of the story. They've been mistreated by 0:37:29.360 --> 0:37:33.440 others in the past, subjugated and treated as second class 0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:35.960 citizens the Opium Wars, and they said we're not having 0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:41.719 that again. And so Roger's quite right. History always informs 0:37:41.760 --> 0:37:46.480 the present, and in this case, nothing true has been said. 0:37:47.040 --> 0:37:49.320 David on what I was saying earlier about your Center prices, 0:37:49.320 --> 0:37:52.359 You're right, she's respected and she really talks. Since the 0:37:52.360 --> 0:37:54.640 Liberal Party should open their eyes, would love to see 0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:56.960 her as a regular guest on your program. I don't 0:37:57.000 --> 0:37:59.879 know if that'll happen, David, but I think she needs 0:37:59.880 --> 0:38:02.680 to be given a semi prominent role. If her potential 0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:05.480 is to be realized what I think is her potential, 0:38:05.880 --> 0:38:09.160 then this is a golden opportunity to elevate her within 0:38:09.200 --> 0:38:14.440 the shadow cabinet and to move her, if not completely away, 0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:17.520 somewhat away from just being boxed in as the go 0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:20.759 to on indigenous affairs. Of course, you can always refer 0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:24.000 to a knowledge there, but try her somewhere else and 0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:27.160 somewhere reasonably prominent. But let's see if she's got what 0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:29.960 it takes. Now, if she stumbles and falls in say 0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:33.279 shadow educational shadow, health of it and saying, okay, look, 0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:35.319 maybe she's a bit of a one hit wonder. But 0:38:35.400 --> 0:38:38.759 if she succeeds that's another stepping stone on what I 0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:42.640 think could be could be a pathway all the way 0:38:42.680 --> 0:38:45.240 to the top one day. Now, that's going to require 0:38:45.280 --> 0:38:49.520 patience and tenacity. But if she's not given half a 0:38:49.600 --> 0:38:53.280 chance here or sometime soon, it's never going to happen. 0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:55.920 One three, one eight seven three Andrew, good afternoon. 0:38:56.880 --> 0:38:59.719 Oh hello Mike here on just sent her. I hope 0:38:59.760 --> 0:39:03.960 she's high Minister one day, Mike. Something we should have 0:39:04.000 --> 0:39:07.960 done decades ago, and it would alleviate a problem that 0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:11.640 we've got now, and it's something that will have to 0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:14.720 be done in the future, but it needs to start now, 0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:21.600 is that we need to provide covered bases for America's 0:39:21.680 --> 0:39:25.520 nuclear submarines. Now we would have their presence in our waters. 0:39:25.800 --> 0:39:30.000 They're already here, but we would have them in our waters. 0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:33.680 And it is linked to space as well. It's very 0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:39.560 important and we should be working on that now. I mean, 0:39:39.600 --> 0:39:44.000 we should be training sub mariners now they are, but 0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:46.680 you know, we can't get enough and they can't the 0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:52.800 defense departments in that keeping people anyway, and we should 0:39:52.840 --> 0:39:54.759 be working very hard at this, and we should be 0:39:54.840 --> 0:40:01.120 training people to operate those bases so and they must 0:40:01.120 --> 0:40:04.000 be covered. You can't park up subs in the open. 0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:07.120 You don't want a potential enemy to know when your 0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:08.960 boats are in the water or not. 0:40:09.200 --> 0:40:10.959 Well, that's why you need to have a deep water port. 0:40:11.320 --> 0:40:15.360 But this is before we even look at that point. 0:40:15.400 --> 0:40:17.359 We've got a first andrew work out where we're going 0:40:17.400 --> 0:40:19.440 to have the basis. Now, this is a discussion that 0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:22.520 has been happening, but many are saying, well, you go 0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:24.600 down toward Port Kembley, you've got access there to a 0:40:24.640 --> 0:40:26.520 deep water port. You could do it. In other words, 0:40:26.520 --> 0:40:28.640 you can get the subs out of the port into 0:40:28.640 --> 0:40:32.000 the deep water quickly and out into the ocean preferably. 0:40:32.160 --> 0:40:35.000 Or the theory is without detection from enemies. Okay, so that's 0:40:35.040 --> 0:40:38.000 the theory. But then you've got you know, the unions 0:40:38.040 --> 0:40:39.759 for example, some of them, I think the E tou 0:40:40.160 --> 0:40:43.040 if I'm not mistaken. So we don't want nuclear submarines here. 0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:47.680 It's dangerous floating chernobyls, this sort of stuff. So where 0:40:47.719 --> 0:40:53.719 there are some options, there are already local criticisms emerging 0:40:54.280 --> 0:40:56.160 out of a fear that there will be a target. Well, 0:40:56.360 --> 0:40:58.520 I guess they would be a target, but I think 0:40:58.560 --> 0:41:01.480 some of the fear is irrational. About what would happen 0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:04.160 outside of a time of war, and so we are 0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:07.640 limiting our potential already. And then of course there's the 0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:09.840 issue what do you do with the waste? Well, we 0:41:09.920 --> 0:41:12.400 had this ridiculous situation going on out at Kimber in 0:41:12.440 --> 0:41:15.200 South Australia. It's too f it's nothing at Kimber. But 0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:18.239 the one local indigenous group said oh we don't want 0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:19.359 it here, and they got all the way I think, 0:41:19.400 --> 0:41:21.520 to the Federal or the High Court and one and 0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:27.080 so Australia has no decision on where nuclear waste would 0:41:27.120 --> 0:41:30.560 be stored from our current usage out of Lucas Heights 0:41:30.560 --> 0:41:33.000 and whatever, let alone whatever happens with ucust submarines. When 0:41:33.040 --> 0:41:36.439 all of these hurdles have to be overcome. But dare 0:41:36.480 --> 0:41:39.840 I say some of the nimbiism which seems to be 0:41:39.840 --> 0:41:41.960 prevailing in legal challenges and the like, needs to be 0:41:42.040 --> 0:41:43.960 nipped in the bud. But you know, how do you 0:41:44.000 --> 0:41:46.440 do it? I don't know. I think, you know, to 0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:48.279 be blunt of a fair bit of money has to 0:41:48.280 --> 0:41:49.920 be dangled to say to people, look, this is what 0:41:49.960 --> 0:41:52.120 you're going to get in return. You know, if you 0:41:52.160 --> 0:41:55.120 put the stuff here, you get this in return. Oh okay, look, 0:41:56.120 --> 0:41:58.719 but until we get there, you know, we're going to 0:41:58.719 --> 0:42:00.839 go down the process of building some but we won't 0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:03.080 know what to do with the waste, so to speak. 0:42:03.120 --> 0:42:05.800 We won't know where to put them in us putting 0:42:05.800 --> 0:42:08.240 the cart before the horse. Thank you for the call, Andrew. 0:42:08.280 --> 0:42:12.040 It's thirteen past one. When we come back, Melissa Abu Ghazzale, 0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:14.120 founder of Top Blokes, we'll look at this issue of 0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:16.279 the really really young kids, eight year olds and the 0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:18.680 like being exposed to pornography. Well, look, I've got to 0:42:18.680 --> 0:42:20.600 be honest, I was taken a back yesterday really by 0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:23.040 this story that I saw as in the City Morning Herald, 0:42:23.239 --> 0:42:27.319 a warning from principles across the state the children as 0:42:27.360 --> 0:42:30.719 young as six, Can you believe it, have been exposed 0:42:30.760 --> 0:42:34.279 to pornography. Now, I just find that shocking, and for 0:42:34.280 --> 0:42:36.120 a whole lot of reasons. But the claims came just 0:42:36.200 --> 0:42:38.280 last week as part of a new South Wales parliamentary 0:42:38.280 --> 0:42:42.759 inquiry into the impacts of harmful pornography on mental, emotional 0:42:42.800 --> 0:42:46.640 and physical health. Now, some principles telling the inquiry that 0:42:46.640 --> 0:42:50.280 they'd seen an increase in young people impacted by viewing 0:42:50.400 --> 0:42:55.640 pornography as well as the sexual objectification of girls by 0:42:55.680 --> 0:42:59.560 their male peers in school. Now, other principles said that 0:42:59.600 --> 0:43:04.839 they'd of children in year one and year two. Can 0:43:04.880 --> 0:43:09.160 you believe it showing signs of porn exposure. Now we'll 0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:11.080 try to understand what that is in a second, But 0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:13.239 it seems that this issue has been flying a bit 0:43:13.280 --> 0:43:15.759 under the radar. But as a father of a very 0:43:15.760 --> 0:43:18.120 young daughter who no doubt has all of this in 0:43:18.200 --> 0:43:22.080 the schooling journey ahead of her, I think that we 0:43:22.160 --> 0:43:24.680 need to get to the bottom of this. Equally, I'm 0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:27.399 thankful that there are people out there working to help 0:43:27.400 --> 0:43:29.680 prevent the harm that can be caused by all of 0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:31.879 this and porn addiction and the rest of it. One 0:43:31.880 --> 0:43:34.360 of them is Melissa Abu Gazale. Now, she's the founder 0:43:34.400 --> 0:43:37.279 of a group called Top Blokes to Charity, and they 0:43:37.320 --> 0:43:39.880 work to empower and mental young boys, and they've got 0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:42.240 to focus on things like drugs, alcohol and risk taking. 0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:44.320 But this comes into it as well, and I'm pleased 0:43:44.320 --> 0:43:46.600 to say she joins me on the line, Melissa, thank 0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:49.680 you for your time, thank you for having me, As 0:43:49.680 --> 0:43:51.239 I said, as a dad of a three and a 0:43:51.280 --> 0:43:53.920 half year old, Now I'm sort of thinking five six 0:43:54.000 --> 0:43:55.800 years down the track, she'll be in year one or 0:43:55.880 --> 0:44:00.960 year two, and that she might indeed be coming across 0:44:01.520 --> 0:44:05.080 others in her cohort that have been exposed to pornography 0:44:05.640 --> 0:44:09.040 at that age and then show that somehow or express 0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:13.000 that somehow in their interactions in the playground or the classroom. 0:44:13.400 --> 0:44:15.520 Maybe I'm naive, but I just find that shocking. 0:44:16.520 --> 0:44:20.920 Yeah, look, it absolutely is concerning, but unfortunately it is 0:44:20.960 --> 0:44:24.239 the reality of what we're hearing, both from schools and 0:44:24.280 --> 0:44:26.960 from parents as well. I mean, you know, international and 0:44:27.000 --> 0:44:30.520 both Australian research documents that young people as young as 0:44:30.600 --> 0:44:33.759 nine years old are being exposed to pornography, but like 0:44:34.160 --> 0:44:37.480 you mentioned, we're hearing it's even younger than that. And 0:44:37.760 --> 0:44:39.440 when we start to look at well, how is it 0:44:39.480 --> 0:44:42.480 that they're getting exposed? Yeah, there are two main ways 0:44:42.480 --> 0:44:45.800 that young people are getting accidentally exposed. And the first 0:44:45.800 --> 0:44:48.680 one to what you mentioned, is appear often showing them 0:44:48.719 --> 0:44:50.759 and it can be a friend in the playground that 0:44:51.040 --> 0:44:53.200 has access to a device. It can often be an 0:44:53.239 --> 0:44:56.600 older sibling or an older cousin as well. But the 0:44:56.640 --> 0:44:59.960 other way that they're being exposed is through online advertising. 0:45:00.320 --> 0:45:02.799 And you know what we might think might be an 0:45:02.800 --> 0:45:05.520 innocent game that a young person is playing, they can 0:45:05.920 --> 0:45:09.239 receive pop up ads and that can often be a 0:45:09.280 --> 0:45:12.960 gateway to a very deeply concerning rabbit hole that they 0:45:12.960 --> 0:45:14.200 find themselves in if. 0:45:14.120 --> 0:45:14.759 They click on it. 0:45:14.840 --> 0:45:16.680 I understand. I mean, I think, you know, in the 0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:18.560 old days, as were a lot of people might have 0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:22.839 been accidentally exposed to pornography because under some father's bed 0:45:22.960 --> 0:45:25.160 or something there was a Playboy magazine, and you know, 0:45:25.160 --> 0:45:29.120 they've got founded. These days, it does seem to be 0:45:29.160 --> 0:45:30.440 far more ubiquitous than that. 0:45:31.719 --> 0:45:31.919 Yeah. 0:45:31.960 --> 0:45:34.520 Absolutely, And look, when we actually think about it, this 0:45:34.640 --> 0:45:38.680 is probably the first generation of parents that are parenting 0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:41.160 young people where the parents themselves have grown up on 0:45:41.160 --> 0:45:44.440 online pornography and like, like to what you mentioned, it 0:45:44.520 --> 0:45:47.799 is different to how it would have been generations ago 0:45:47.960 --> 0:45:52.520 because the content is much more extreme, much more readily available, 0:45:53.320 --> 0:45:56.680 and yeah, more concerning than how it used to be. 0:45:56.920 --> 0:46:00.520 I know you said earlier that these young people, if 0:46:00.520 --> 0:46:04.160 we're talking about extremes here, we're talking about nine year olds, 0:46:04.200 --> 0:46:08.680 ten year olds or even younger accidentally being exposed to pornographys. 0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:10.920 So they're not going out there seeking it, but someone's 0:46:10.960 --> 0:46:13.200 shown it to them, and so they've been exposed by accident. 0:46:14.160 --> 0:46:17.360 Is there much evidence to suggest that once or twice 0:46:17.480 --> 0:46:22.320 accidentally exposed, they then go deliberately seeking more that they're 0:46:23.600 --> 0:46:25.719 shown it, and then they get a taste for as 0:46:25.760 --> 0:46:27.839 it were, and they want more. They then go and 0:46:28.120 --> 0:46:31.240 take the initiative themselves, even at a young age. 0:46:31.600 --> 0:46:34.400 Oh look, I'm sure it's probably different for every young person, 0:46:34.440 --> 0:46:36.840 and in some cases that might be the case. And 0:46:36.880 --> 0:46:38.759 I think, you know, it's really important for us to 0:46:38.920 --> 0:46:41.880 recognize that young people are going to be curious about 0:46:42.160 --> 0:46:45.680 sex and relationships at some point, and I guess as 0:46:45.719 --> 0:46:48.080 adults and those that want to protect young people, we 0:46:48.360 --> 0:46:50.800 just want to make sure that, you know, we're delaying 0:46:50.840 --> 0:46:53.759 their exposure as long as possible so that they do 0:46:53.840 --> 0:46:57.880 have that emotional or some level of emotional maturity to 0:46:57.960 --> 0:47:01.560 be able to try and understand, you know, what they 0:47:01.560 --> 0:47:04.120 are being exposed to and what they're seeing. And this 0:47:04.239 --> 0:47:07.560 is often something that young men are telling us in 0:47:07.600 --> 0:47:10.200 our programs, is that when they do come across the 0:47:10.320 --> 0:47:13.479 pornography that they see at a much younger age, they're 0:47:13.520 --> 0:47:15.759 often they have a lot of questions, and they're often 0:47:15.840 --> 0:47:19.800 very confused, and some feel very uncomfortable with what they're seeing, 0:47:19.880 --> 0:47:23.360 but they're not having a conversation with any adult about it. 0:47:23.360 --> 0:47:25.200 And that's the keys that we need to be talking 0:47:25.239 --> 0:47:27.759 to young males and young females about it at an 0:47:27.760 --> 0:47:28.560 earlier age. 0:47:28.680 --> 0:47:30.960 Okay, at what age? Because you know, the whole sex 0:47:31.120 --> 0:47:32.640 ed thing at school that was all sort of a 0:47:32.680 --> 0:47:35.239 bit of a bit of a giggly exercise for some, 0:47:35.400 --> 0:47:37.520 I suppose, But you know, that's just the nature of 0:47:37.960 --> 0:47:41.120 young people and having adults discuss those matters with them, 0:47:41.120 --> 0:47:44.440 that's completely normal. But I was reading some suggestions today 0:47:44.480 --> 0:47:47.000 that we need to be educating young people, and I 0:47:47.040 --> 0:47:49.759 suppose by extension, their parents, about issues to do with 0:47:49.800 --> 0:47:53.279 pornography as young as the age of ten. Some would say, gee, 0:47:53.320 --> 0:47:55.400 that's a bit early, but what's your take on that? 0:47:56.320 --> 0:47:58.640 Yeah, Look, and I think first and foremost, we sort 0:47:58.640 --> 0:48:01.600 of as a community should put the expectation and obligation 0:48:01.680 --> 0:48:03.720 on schools to be the ones to do the education. 0:48:04.960 --> 0:48:08.200 It definitely needs to be the role of parents and families, 0:48:08.680 --> 0:48:11.920 and we need to start normalizing these conversations now. It 0:48:11.960 --> 0:48:14.920 doesn't need to be specifically about pornography from as young 0:48:14.960 --> 0:48:17.160 as six, seven, eight years old, but it can be 0:48:17.200 --> 0:48:20.719 about how to be safe online and what to do 0:48:20.760 --> 0:48:24.799 if you see uncomfortable content that makes you uncomfortable and 0:48:24.840 --> 0:48:27.400 how I guess what's most important that they are telling 0:48:27.400 --> 0:48:29.839 an adult so that the adult can understand how they 0:48:29.880 --> 0:48:32.239 came across it, and then hopefully how to protect them 0:48:32.680 --> 0:48:34.520 so that they're not not accessing yet. So I think 0:48:34.560 --> 0:48:37.240 it's definitely the role of you know, parents and trusted 0:48:37.280 --> 0:48:40.440 adults in a young person's life. And you're right, what 0:48:40.480 --> 0:48:42.600 we need and what we'd love to see is parents 0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:45.680 feeling more confident to have these conversations, and step one 0:48:45.680 --> 0:48:48.520 would be to learn more about the harmful impacts on 0:48:48.600 --> 0:48:49.759 young people now. 0:48:49.920 --> 0:48:52.319 I mean in a lot of different areas, Melissa, we 0:48:52.360 --> 0:48:56.279 hear about the slippery slope argument, and in previous generations 0:48:56.320 --> 0:49:01.320 there was concerns raised that even things like those music 0:49:01.400 --> 0:49:04.280 video TV shows, is you Get on Saturday Morning Your Rage? 0:49:04.320 --> 0:49:07.040 And video hits and these sort of thing, increasingly the 0:49:07.120 --> 0:49:11.960 videos were becoming soft pornography, and there was an argument 0:49:12.000 --> 0:49:14.560 that well, like once the young people who were listening 0:49:14.600 --> 0:49:17.680 to the music because that's pop culture, are exposed to that, 0:49:18.680 --> 0:49:21.040 they're then going to go, like with anything else, seeking 0:49:21.080 --> 0:49:23.080 something a little more extreme and then a little more 0:49:23.120 --> 0:49:25.640 extreme and they've been exposed and down the rabbit hole 0:49:25.680 --> 0:49:30.480 they go. Is there some with hindsight, some merit to 0:49:30.520 --> 0:49:34.359 the arguments that some might say sort of Mary white 0:49:34.400 --> 0:49:38.160 House arguments all those years ago. But nonetheless some merit 0:49:38.239 --> 0:49:42.040 to that argument that even through free to wear television 0:49:42.320 --> 0:49:48.439 and children's viewing ours, we were exposing too many young 0:49:48.520 --> 0:49:51.080 people to the antecedents of pornography. 0:49:52.960 --> 0:49:56.560 Yeah, look, there's no doubt about it. The normalization of 0:49:56.680 --> 0:50:00.360 pornographic and sexualized imagery in our pop culture is there. 0:50:00.800 --> 0:50:03.399 And you know, young people don't doesn't really watch TV 0:50:03.480 --> 0:50:05.960 as much as what they did in previous generation. So 0:50:06.040 --> 0:50:10.280 we turn our attention to social media platforms like a TikTok, 0:50:11.040 --> 0:50:15.880 where their access to sexualized imagery is there and it's constant. 0:50:16.960 --> 0:50:19.319 And also young people and young men have told us 0:50:19.360 --> 0:50:22.279 now program is that platforms like only Fans, where it's 0:50:22.680 --> 0:50:27.839 user generated sexualized content. Young men tell us that that 0:50:28.160 --> 0:50:30.920 is where they often feel like maybe it's not so 0:50:31.040 --> 0:50:34.759 bad or does normalize it even more? So, we are 0:50:34.800 --> 0:50:38.520 definitely in a space where it is very hard to 0:50:38.960 --> 0:50:42.040 think that a young person is not going to be exposed, 0:50:42.640 --> 0:50:46.360 and yeah, exposed at some point in their lives. 0:50:46.960 --> 0:50:48.640 Just from a historical point of view, I mean, you 0:50:49.040 --> 0:50:50.879 go back to ancient Rome, you're still in these days. 0:50:50.920 --> 0:50:53.080 You can wander around Pompei, for example, it's pretty obviously 0:50:53.080 --> 0:50:54.960 we're all the brothels were and everything. There were fallows 0:50:55.000 --> 0:50:57.720 symbols above the doors, there was paintings on the walls. 0:50:58.719 --> 0:51:03.680 Pornography as it were, has been in sexualized imagery, a 0:51:03.760 --> 0:51:07.840 key component, a core component of pop culture really for 0:51:07.920 --> 0:51:10.640 thousands and thousands of years. I guess there'd be some 0:51:10.680 --> 0:51:14.600 out there playing Devil's advocate who would say, are we 0:51:14.840 --> 0:51:18.080 just not accepting that this has really always been there. 0:51:18.520 --> 0:51:20.799 It's just that social media has made it easier for 0:51:20.840 --> 0:51:23.800 beople to access twenty four to seven on the telephone 0:51:23.800 --> 0:51:25.560 in their bedroom. 0:51:26.000 --> 0:51:30.880 Yeah, look absolutely, you know, And I wonder if it 0:51:30.920 --> 0:51:33.960 kind of comes down to this innate curiosity that humans 0:51:34.000 --> 0:51:40.160 have around around sex and around relationships and so. But 0:51:40.200 --> 0:51:43.600 I guess what is different compared to previous generations is 0:51:43.719 --> 0:51:47.319 there is more research now that is clearly highlighting the 0:51:47.360 --> 0:51:52.160 impacts on young people and children. And we have a 0:51:52.200 --> 0:51:54.879 you know, a generation of parents and teachers who are 0:51:54.920 --> 0:51:57.640 just screaming out for help on how to address this, 0:51:57.800 --> 0:52:01.359 and you know, like in some ways, the young men 0:52:01.360 --> 0:52:03.720 tell us that top Works is one of the only 0:52:03.880 --> 0:52:06.759 times that they've ever had an open conversation around pornography, 0:52:06.800 --> 0:52:10.200 and we would love to see it be a normal 0:52:10.239 --> 0:52:13.719 conversation that's had in all settings where young men are 0:52:13.760 --> 0:52:14.600 reaching out for help. 0:52:15.200 --> 0:52:17.239 Okay, just on that, parents, until you're just screaming out 0:52:17.280 --> 0:52:19.040 for the help. I know many of them are, but 0:52:19.480 --> 0:52:21.799 they don't know where to turn. Where should they do? 0:52:22.840 --> 0:52:26.239 Yeah, So look, there are some great online resources, so 0:52:26.360 --> 0:52:29.360 Toplex has great online resources as well as a safety 0:52:30.719 --> 0:52:33.520 there's quite a few good websites. So first and foremost, 0:52:33.560 --> 0:52:37.920 we want parents to understand what are the mental, physical, 0:52:38.000 --> 0:52:42.239 and emotional impacts of pornography. Let's really understand what the 0:52:42.239 --> 0:52:45.680 impacts are for young people first and then secondly, we 0:52:45.719 --> 0:52:48.760 want to encourage parents to have conversations with their sons, 0:52:48.800 --> 0:52:50.680 but not to go in. And the first question is 0:52:50.719 --> 0:52:52.719 tell me what you're seeing, because that is going to 0:52:52.719 --> 0:52:55.280 absolutely shut down the young men. You've got to approach 0:52:55.320 --> 0:52:58.680 the conversation with curiosity. You ask young males, you know, 0:52:58.719 --> 0:53:01.200 what are their observations, what are their insights, what are 0:53:01.200 --> 0:53:03.839 they hearing? And then you know, that starts to build 0:53:03.880 --> 0:53:07.160 trust and rapport because young men tell us if they're 0:53:07.160 --> 0:53:09.160 going to have a conversation with an adult, there's two 0:53:09.200 --> 0:53:12.200 main things that needs to be present in that conversation. 0:53:12.400 --> 0:53:15.319 Firstly is a level of respect that you know, that 0:53:15.440 --> 0:53:17.840 they value what the young man is sharing himself and 0:53:18.000 --> 0:53:21.200 in his own experiences. But also young men want to 0:53:21.320 --> 0:53:23.759 learn from their parents and they want to learn from 0:53:23.800 --> 0:53:26.440 their own stories, and so that is a big key 0:53:26.560 --> 0:53:29.200 I think that parents can can lean on is how 0:53:29.200 --> 0:53:31.560 did they navigate it when they're a young person coming 0:53:31.600 --> 0:53:34.600 across online pornography, And I think that's the start of 0:53:34.640 --> 0:53:36.600 how to have a conversation with a young man. And 0:53:36.640 --> 0:53:41.400 then from there, you know, start normalizing the topic of 0:53:41.520 --> 0:53:43.000 you know, what do you do when you come across 0:53:43.000 --> 0:53:46.080 harmful content because it's not going anywhere and see, it's 0:53:46.080 --> 0:53:47.400 going to be around for quite a while. 0:53:47.760 --> 0:53:50.200 You said the conversations with their sons, but but surely 0:53:50.200 --> 0:53:52.719 it's also important the parents also extend these conversations to 0:53:52.719 --> 0:53:55.640 their daughters as well, because pornography would be being accessed 0:53:55.600 --> 0:53:57.360 by lots of young girls as well. They may be 0:53:58.440 --> 0:54:00.640 looking at it through a different prism, don't know, but 0:54:00.800 --> 0:54:02.719 there'd be an expectation on a lot of them looking 0:54:02.760 --> 0:54:04.359 at all of these images and what I'm saying, well, 0:54:04.360 --> 0:54:06.280 this is what I've got to be when I'm sixteen 0:54:06.360 --> 0:54:09.160 or whatever. So maybe it's a different conversation, but equally 0:54:09.200 --> 0:54:10.960 those conversations have to be had, don't they. 0:54:11.560 --> 0:54:15.080 Absolutely? Yeah, absolutely, any young person is actually going to 0:54:15.120 --> 0:54:17.320 be coming across the content at some point in their lives, 0:54:17.440 --> 0:54:20.920 and yeah, it would be any young person that you 0:54:21.000 --> 0:54:22.960 have access to. Don't need to have that conversation. 0:54:23.280 --> 0:54:26.279 Speaking with Melissa Abu ghazalees I said that Melissa is 0:54:26.320 --> 0:54:30.600 from the top blokes. Just finally, Melissa, you were quoted 0:54:30.640 --> 0:54:33.080 in the Herald of saying young men have a gut 0:54:33.080 --> 0:54:36.239 feeling that what they are viewing isn't healthy, but they 0:54:36.280 --> 0:54:39.719 don't know how to escape it. So there is some 0:54:39.800 --> 0:54:42.560 hope there isn't there that this is everywhere. A lot 0:54:42.600 --> 0:54:44.640 of them are looking at it and whatever sharing it, 0:54:44.840 --> 0:54:47.400 but they seem to have a sense that it's not 0:54:47.600 --> 0:54:51.080 good what they're exposed to. It's not doing them any favors. 0:54:51.560 --> 0:54:54.560 So there is some hope that with the right messaging 0:54:54.760 --> 0:54:56.760 we can turn it around. Eh. 0:54:56.800 --> 0:54:59.160 Absolutely. You know one thing that we know is that 0:54:59.280 --> 0:55:02.840 we have a very interested and captive audience in young males. 0:55:02.880 --> 0:55:06.239 They are wanting opportunities to talk about it, to talk 0:55:06.239 --> 0:55:08.560 about how they're struggling with it, and to have a 0:55:08.640 --> 0:55:13.440 voice on how to overcome the challenges and the impacts 0:55:13.480 --> 0:55:15.239 of it as well. And so we need to lean 0:55:15.280 --> 0:55:17.520 into that, meet young men where they're at and bring 0:55:17.560 --> 0:55:19.640 them on the journey because they really really want to 0:55:19.640 --> 0:55:20.239 be part of it. 0:55:20.719 --> 0:55:22.800 Important conversation. Thank you for your time and thank you 0:55:22.800 --> 0:55:25.720 for your insight. Thanks so much, all the best, Melissa 0:55:25.719 --> 0:55:28.040 Ebber Gazzale's has Haid, the founder of Top Blokes. There 0:55:27.920 --> 0:55:30.560 are charity and they work to empower and mental young 0:55:30.600 --> 0:55:33.080 boys and a very very important thing they're doing in 0:55:33.080 --> 0:55:40.359 this space. Indeed, all right, right on our past one, 0:55:40.400 --> 0:55:42.760 let's go to the newsroom eron Margaret afternoon. 0:55:42.400 --> 0:55:46.320 Good afternoon, Michael. Monthly inflation has risen slightly more than expected, 0:55:46.400 --> 0:55:48.880 hitting two point four percent in the twelve months to April, 0:55:48.920 --> 0:55:52.320 which could delay further interest rate cuts. Police are searching 0:55:52.360 --> 0:55:54.359 for a man who went missing after a Corden house 0:55:54.400 --> 0:55:56.560 burnt down in the early hours of the morning. An 0:55:56.560 --> 0:55:58.799 eighty year old man was killed in the blaze. 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When we come back, Blake will bring 0:57:39.640 --> 0:57:42.720 his wealthy Pretzels into the studio and we'll talk personal finance. 0:57:43.480 --> 0:57:48.920 Now on afternoons, All Things Finance with Blake Wack from 0:57:49.000 --> 0:57:53.520 Pretzel Wealth. Organize your free consultation at Pretzelwealth dot com 0:57:53.560 --> 0:57:54.120 dot au. 0:57:55.320 --> 0:57:58.000 Okay, bit of abba means it's time to dive into 0:57:58.040 --> 0:58:00.160 finance with the one and he, mister Blake went when 0:58:00.200 --> 0:58:02.960 Prince Al Wealthy's here in the studio with us. Hello, Blake, Michael, 0:58:03.320 --> 0:58:05.920 all right, we're getting our money's working down. If you 0:58:05.920 --> 0:58:09.080 won't like now, if you've got a question four Blake 0:58:09.120 --> 0:58:11.600 one three one eight seven three, anything about your home 0:58:11.680 --> 0:58:14.080 loan or super or investments or you know, other general 0:58:14.080 --> 0:58:16.080 financial advices you might need, take advantage of the free 0:58:16.080 --> 0:58:18.760 advice one three one eight seven three. There's always that 0:58:18.800 --> 0:58:21.720 complimentary consultation we tell people about as well asn't there. 0:58:21.640 --> 0:58:24.000 Blake, Yeah, certainly. So it's a forty five minute consultation. 0:58:24.080 --> 0:58:27.240 You come into the office, spring your your statements, you know, 0:58:27.320 --> 0:58:31.160 whatever questions that you might have, any sort of dark 0:58:31.240 --> 0:58:33.120 secrets that you want to reveal, all that sort of 0:58:33.360 --> 0:58:35.440 good stuff, and we'll sit down, we'll unpack it, we'll 0:58:35.440 --> 0:58:38.720 go through it, and you know, hopefully we walk away 0:58:38.760 --> 0:58:39.720 a bit more informed. 0:58:40.080 --> 0:58:44.280 Indeed, we had the inflation data today CPI or whatever 0:58:44.320 --> 0:58:46.320 they call it, two point four percent. The headline figure 0:58:46.320 --> 0:58:49.520 that was up just a tick, I think anything to 0:58:49.600 --> 0:58:50.280 read into that. 0:58:50.360 --> 0:58:55.040 Nothing to write home about really trimmed mean CPI data 0:58:55.120 --> 0:58:57.640 up a little bit as well, two point eight percent. 0:58:57.760 --> 0:58:59.720 So it's that's the one that the RBA will look 0:58:59.720 --> 0:59:02.360 at and say, well, is it getting out of control? 0:59:02.960 --> 0:59:05.760 That is not a figure which the RBA will be 0:59:05.840 --> 0:59:08.520 concerned about. That'd say, okay, it's still within our band 0:59:09.560 --> 0:59:12.040 of two to three percent, so they'd be quite comfortable 0:59:12.240 --> 0:59:15.720 in that range. So it's not going to result in 0:59:15.800 --> 0:59:19.160 drastic rate cuts, but it's sort of where they want 0:59:19.160 --> 0:59:19.360 to be. 0:59:19.880 --> 0:59:21.800 One of the questions is what do they include in 0:59:21.840 --> 0:59:24.280 the basket of items as it were that they used 0:59:24.280 --> 0:59:26.160 to formulate these figures, Because I've just got a note 0:59:26.160 --> 0:59:28.800 from someone who says, well, look, CPI's two point four percent, 0:59:29.240 --> 0:59:31.480 but my insurance went up thirty seven percent, but Telstra 0:59:31.520 --> 0:59:34.200 Internet when I'm twenty percent makes no sense. 0:59:34.560 --> 0:59:37.160 Electricity going up nine percent in July, so it's. 0:59:37.560 --> 0:59:39.480 Higher if it went for the government rebates, right, So 0:59:40.920 --> 0:59:42.160 how do they land at this figure? 0:59:43.160 --> 0:59:46.160 Well, exactly, so they look at what the average person 0:59:46.200 --> 0:59:48.800 spans and effectively try to create this basket. Now, they 0:59:48.800 --> 0:59:51.680 strip out in some cases, they strip out volatile items. 0:59:51.680 --> 0:59:55.640 So if there's a flood somewhere and that affects banana crops, 0:59:55.640 --> 0:59:59.400 well we'll take out bananas this reading because they're obviously 0:59:59.400 --> 1:00:02.600 going to be impact. So there's there's a basket of goods, 1:00:03.120 --> 1:00:07.240 the data comes out or comes across to the ABS, 1:00:07.280 --> 1:00:09.840 they work out, well, what does this actually cost and 1:00:09.840 --> 1:00:13.120 what's the cost increase that's occurring, and that's our prints. 1:00:13.240 --> 1:00:17.120 So the CPI is sort of a best guess at 1:00:17.120 --> 1:00:19.920 what prices are doing. But you're quite right. There are 1:00:19.960 --> 1:00:22.520 some items like insurances as an example, which are going 1:00:22.640 --> 1:00:25.720 up far quicker than CPI, but because they don't make 1:00:25.800 --> 1:00:29.520 up a large component of the CPI, you don't see 1:00:29.520 --> 1:00:31.640 those big increases to the overall number. 1:00:32.000 --> 1:00:35.760 Okay, so they're looking largely petrol prices, energy prices, food 1:00:35.800 --> 1:00:39.680 and grocery prices, those sort of every day weekly staples 1:00:39.720 --> 1:00:43.160 as it were. Almost okay, that helps explain it. Well, Jude, 1:00:43.200 --> 1:00:44.960 the other things you still got to have the money for, don't. 1:00:44.840 --> 1:00:47.640 You, Well, exactly right, Yeah, they're not going anywhere. You know, 1:00:47.640 --> 1:00:51.600 you're not going to stop insuring your home. Well, some are, well, 1:00:51.640 --> 1:00:54.200 well exactly, and some of the flat affected areas that 1:00:54.240 --> 1:00:57.840 the insurance policies are going through the roof if they 1:00:57.840 --> 1:00:59.680 offer them, if they offer them at all, exactly, and 1:00:59.680 --> 1:01:02.880 some people or choosing not to take it up, and 1:01:02.960 --> 1:01:05.240 so you know, then you're running the risk. Okay, if 1:01:05.240 --> 1:01:09.360 there's another flood, we're not insured. What's the impact on 1:01:09.400 --> 1:01:12.120 our financial positions? It's sad to see that that's occurring, 1:01:12.160 --> 1:01:15.160 but that's all part of how the insurers sort of 1:01:15.360 --> 1:01:19.439 reduce their risk or avoid the risk altogether, because they're 1:01:19.440 --> 1:01:21.520 in it to make money. They're not there for the 1:01:22.080 --> 1:01:23.160 love of it, unfortunately. 1:01:24.160 --> 1:01:27.520 Okay, this from Bert question on the text line before 1:01:27.520 --> 1:01:29.600 we get to the calls. He says, I'm seventy seven. 1:01:30.520 --> 1:01:33.040 Every year I have to withdraw a percentage of my 1:01:33.240 --> 1:01:38.240 fund this year at six percent. So my question is 1:01:38.440 --> 1:01:41.120 what effect is this horrible tax? I guess this is 1:01:41.200 --> 1:01:44.560 the super text we've been talking about unrealized capital games, etc. 1:01:45.280 --> 1:01:46.640 Going to have on my fund. 1:01:47.560 --> 1:01:50.520 Well, suppose if Bert's super funds over three million dollars, 1:01:50.560 --> 1:01:53.800 then he'll get caught up in this division two nine 1:01:53.960 --> 1:01:56.560 six tax. If it's less then then no impact at all. 1:01:56.640 --> 1:02:00.760 But say your superbalance was above three million dollars and 1:02:00.960 --> 1:02:05.400 it was growing with investment returns and the like. What 1:02:05.640 --> 1:02:08.400 happens is as part of the calculation when they work out, well, 1:02:08.440 --> 1:02:11.320 what's the change in balance to work out the tax, 1:02:11.720 --> 1:02:15.600 they will add back with drawals from the super fund 1:02:16.040 --> 1:02:19.560 or the pension account. But then they'll subtract contributions. So 1:02:19.800 --> 1:02:22.959 if there are with drawers, a six percent withdrawal from 1:02:23.000 --> 1:02:26.200 super that gets added back on and it's effectively you 1:02:26.240 --> 1:02:30.680 know you've earned that money. And the logic behind that is, well, okay, 1:02:30.720 --> 1:02:32.640 well we started with a smaller amount, we ended up 1:02:33.240 --> 1:02:35.440 with a lower amount, but we have to add back 1:02:35.480 --> 1:02:37.400 with drawals to sort of see, well, what did you 1:02:37.400 --> 1:02:40.479 actually earn for that period. So it's a good question. 1:02:40.520 --> 1:02:43.560 But Bert, if your balance is below three million dollars, 1:02:43.600 --> 1:02:45.000 then you're going to be okay. 1:02:44.800 --> 1:02:47.400 Okay, Bert, there you go. Pasquali's called through with a question. 1:02:47.520 --> 1:02:48.920 Pasquale far away. 1:02:50.160 --> 1:02:52.680 Yes, right, how are you good? I just I just 1:02:52.720 --> 1:02:55.840 wanted I just wanted to say, is I'm single, own 1:02:55.880 --> 1:03:00.160 my own home and just free. Quick questions is how 1:03:00.240 --> 1:03:03.440 much is the maximum I can have in savings? And 1:03:03.560 --> 1:03:06.080 what is the maximum I can have in my super? 1:03:07.000 --> 1:03:10.320 And is there a capital games tax? I heard on 1:03:10.360 --> 1:03:13.560 your family on your your family home? 1:03:13.600 --> 1:03:19.280 I heard, okay, so maximum savings. I would imagine that 1:03:19.320 --> 1:03:23.040 you're referring to the age pension with that respect, because 1:03:23.080 --> 1:03:25.000 there's no cap on. I suppose how much you can 1:03:25.000 --> 1:03:26.960 have in the bank, you can have whatever you want. 1:03:27.800 --> 1:03:33.680 Superannuation there are caps as well, so you know, roughly speaking, 1:03:33.720 --> 1:03:37.160 there is a two million dollar threshold. Once you get 1:03:37.160 --> 1:03:39.240 to two million dollars, you can't really add much more 1:03:39.240 --> 1:03:43.440 into super apart from concessional contributions. But just to come 1:03:43.440 --> 1:03:46.120 back to that first point about savings and superannuation, if 1:03:46.120 --> 1:03:49.840 it's in respect to the age pension and you're a 1:03:49.880 --> 1:03:53.760 single homeowner, then to get the full age pension you 1:03:53.760 --> 1:03:56.240 need to have assets less than about three hundred and 1:03:56.360 --> 1:03:58.920 fourteen thousand dollars. If you want to get some age 1:03:58.920 --> 1:04:01.680 pension or that cuts off at six hundred and ninety 1:04:01.680 --> 1:04:04.240 seven thousand dollars. So that's for the age mention. Now 1:04:04.240 --> 1:04:06.120 the third question around is there going to be a 1:04:06.160 --> 1:04:08.560 capital gains tax on your family home. There's no such 1:04:08.640 --> 1:04:12.680 thing at this stage. At this stage, I'll use that 1:04:12.760 --> 1:04:18.160 at this stage who knows. So what can occur though, 1:04:18.200 --> 1:04:20.280 and what could trigger a capital gains is if you've 1:04:20.320 --> 1:04:23.000 ever had the family home as an investment property for 1:04:23.080 --> 1:04:25.680 some period of time. So speak to your accountant about 1:04:26.080 --> 1:04:28.200 the family home. Have you always lived in it, has 1:04:28.240 --> 1:04:30.560 it been rented out for a period of time? Perhaps 1:04:31.280 --> 1:04:34.320 there is some capital gains there, but only if it's 1:04:34.320 --> 1:04:36.560 been an investment property and not your main residence. 1:04:36.880 --> 1:04:40.320 All right, pasqually, good question, Thank you, single and owns 1:04:40.320 --> 1:04:42.080 his own home. If it's down of Double Bay, you 1:04:42.080 --> 1:04:44.800 won't be single for too long. Ago ticks a few blocks. 1:04:45.680 --> 1:04:49.439 It's sixteen minutes to two. I shouldn't say one, three, 1:04:49.480 --> 1:04:53.080 one eight seven three. Interesting note here from Graham. He says, 1:04:53.120 --> 1:04:55.800 could you ask Blake, will the rise in bond rates 1:04:55.840 --> 1:04:56.439 in the US? 1:04:56.480 --> 1:05:00.080 Heaven fifthre ken Ken on our superinnuation fund. So so 1:05:00.280 --> 1:05:04.919 supernuation funds invest in bonds or fixed interest assets. So 1:05:05.120 --> 1:05:08.160 how it impacts us is that if we're an invest 1:05:08.440 --> 1:05:13.960 investor and we've bought government bonds from the US or 1:05:14.000 --> 1:05:18.480 treasuries and their interest rates are rising, the capital value 1:05:18.480 --> 1:05:21.960 of those bonds declines, so you may see that there 1:05:22.000 --> 1:05:24.920 is a capital decrease to that asset. So it can 1:05:24.960 --> 1:05:28.040 have an impact here. Interest rates moving up over in 1:05:28.080 --> 1:05:33.960 the US does add or it can reduce the Australian dollar. 1:05:34.920 --> 1:05:37.760 Although if there's weakness in the United States, then money 1:05:37.800 --> 1:05:40.560 will flow out of the United States into other currencies 1:05:40.800 --> 1:05:44.200 and therefore those currencies will appreciate. So yeah, it does 1:05:44.240 --> 1:05:47.360 have some impact. We're not sort of seeing it as 1:05:47.400 --> 1:05:50.480 being a doom and gloom scenario there. It's just something 1:05:50.520 --> 1:05:52.680 to be mindful of. You're not going to have huge 1:05:52.680 --> 1:05:56.120 exposure to US bonds in your portfolio. It's usually quite 1:05:56.120 --> 1:05:59.960 diversified that side of the equation. But interest rates rising 1:06:00.040 --> 1:06:03.520 in the US will have some impact on your portfolio. 1:06:03.560 --> 1:06:05.360 Expected to rise, well. 1:06:05.280 --> 1:06:07.680 What's happening at the moment with their their downgrade, the 1:06:07.720 --> 1:06:11.680 recent downgrade that's happened over there, it means that investors 1:06:11.680 --> 1:06:15.040 are expecting more from the US or higher interest to 1:06:16.440 --> 1:06:18.960 take a chance or to invest in and buy those 1:06:19.000 --> 1:06:21.400 bonds cover the risk, to cover the risk exactly, so 1:06:21.400 --> 1:06:22.600 they're seen as higher risk. 1:06:23.440 --> 1:06:23.640 Now. 1:06:24.760 --> 1:06:27.760 You know, there's naturally some revenue coming through from the 1:06:27.800 --> 1:06:31.920 tariffs in the US and that may help with the 1:06:31.920 --> 1:06:34.440 deficits that they're seeing. They're still expected to be in 1:06:34.480 --> 1:06:36.840 deficit by about two trillion dollars, so that's you know, 1:06:37.680 --> 1:06:39.880 the fact that last month they got I think sixteen 1:06:40.080 --> 1:06:44.160 billion dollars US. You know, that's just a drop in 1:06:44.200 --> 1:06:47.439 the ocean as to what they're spending. But it's it's 1:06:47.440 --> 1:06:49.720 sort of they're trying to get in get their act 1:06:49.760 --> 1:06:53.520 together the best way that they can. And so if 1:06:53.560 --> 1:06:56.280 they can prove to the markets that you know, their 1:06:56.320 --> 1:06:59.760 budget is coming back in line and everything's looking a okay, 1:07:00.160 --> 1:07:02.800 then maybe they get that triple A rating again. But 1:07:03.440 --> 1:07:05.400 it's up to the to what they do. 1:07:05.440 --> 1:07:08.280 Wouldn't coundle that anytime soon? Yes, Now back to this 1:07:08.320 --> 1:07:10.480 division two nine to six TEX. A lot of people, 1:07:10.480 --> 1:07:12.560 even if they're not directly going to be impacted or 1:07:12.840 --> 1:07:15.760 worried about this now. Brendan's just sent me a note 1:07:15.760 --> 1:07:18.280 that many are asking, and that is okay, Well, if 1:07:18.360 --> 1:07:23.440 your investment loses money, will the government pay you? Oh? 1:07:23.520 --> 1:07:28.040 Certainly not no, So what's happening there is so say 1:07:28.080 --> 1:07:33.080 one year your part you the tax, you're payable, and 1:07:33.120 --> 1:07:35.040 then the next year you lose money. Now what will 1:07:35.080 --> 1:07:39.240 happen is the hir Reill record a higher benchmark or 1:07:39.360 --> 1:07:42.600 a watermark for what your balance has reached in one 1:07:42.960 --> 1:07:46.160 financial year, and you won't pay that tax or that 1:07:46.200 --> 1:07:50.080 tax calculation won't take effect until your balance exceeds that 1:07:50.160 --> 1:07:53.720 previous watermark or that threshold. So they're not going to 1:07:53.720 --> 1:07:56.160 pay you back. They're just saying, look, if you've lost 1:07:56.200 --> 1:07:58.640 money and your balance is down, if you get back 1:07:58.720 --> 1:08:00.880 up to these levels or the pre this levels, then 1:08:01.320 --> 1:08:03.760 we'll start introducing the tax again. So you might have 1:08:03.800 --> 1:08:06.960 a period of time where the balance has come down, 1:08:07.160 --> 1:08:11.160 you've lost some money perhaps, and so through that period 1:08:11.160 --> 1:08:14.320 where you might be making money on Suva, you haven't 1:08:14.400 --> 1:08:18.000 hit that watermark just yet, then you're not going to 1:08:18.040 --> 1:08:18.639 pay the tax. 1:08:18.920 --> 1:08:20.960 Ok. Just quickly on the capital gains tax and the 1:08:20.960 --> 1:08:23.400 family home, Jeff says, there is capital gains tax if 1:08:23.439 --> 1:08:25.000 your home is greater than five acres. 1:08:25.160 --> 1:08:28.960 Oh, certainly yes in that situation, wh circumstances, spot on. 1:08:29.000 --> 1:08:31.120 Okay, well done, Jeff, thank you. Okay, it's thirteen to two. 1:08:31.120 --> 1:08:32.360 We'll take a break. If you've got a question for 1:08:32.360 --> 1:08:34.479 Blake one three one eight seven three. Keep the text coming. 1:08:34.520 --> 1:08:36.960 A lot of people communicating that way today zero four 1:08:37.000 --> 1:08:40.040 six zero eight seven three eight seven three the ever 1:08:40.080 --> 1:08:43.920 popular Blake Owent from Pretzel Wealth seven three. Now, I 1:08:44.000 --> 1:08:45.080 just want to make the point before we go to 1:08:45.120 --> 1:08:48.160 course and tex You've always been very popular, but ever 1:08:48.280 --> 1:08:52.080 since this proposal to bring in the division two nine 1:08:52.200 --> 1:08:55.360 six tax, you've been extremely popular. And I imagine this 1:08:55.400 --> 1:08:58.720 is true across the financial advice community that people are 1:08:58.800 --> 1:08:59.840 now alert to this. 1:09:00.439 --> 1:09:04.040 Yeah, speaking with colleagues, you know, we're all getting asked 1:09:04.360 --> 1:09:06.559 the same question. You know, what does this mean for me? 1:09:06.760 --> 1:09:09.599 And you know what should we do to get ahead 1:09:09.640 --> 1:09:12.920 of it? And so the natural reaction from people is 1:09:12.960 --> 1:09:16.760 to jump and sell properties or sell assets and try 1:09:16.800 --> 1:09:18.880 to get money out of super that's their natural reaction 1:09:18.920 --> 1:09:22.120 at the moment, which rightly so. But you can do 1:09:22.240 --> 1:09:25.400 this after it's come into effects. So if your plan 1:09:25.479 --> 1:09:29.000 is to reduce your balance below three million dollars, you 1:09:29.040 --> 1:09:31.000 have until the end of the financial year in which 1:09:31.040 --> 1:09:32.439 it comes into place. I say it comes into a 1:09:32.479 --> 1:09:36.960 play from one July this year and on the by 1:09:37.000 --> 1:09:39.120 thirtieth or June twenty twenty six, if you've gotten your 1:09:39.120 --> 1:09:41.760 balance down below three million dollars, you're okay. So there's 1:09:41.760 --> 1:09:43.559 plenty of time for people to work out what does 1:09:43.560 --> 1:09:46.559 that actually mean for them. We don't have to jump 1:09:46.760 --> 1:09:50.519 and react and have a bit of a flurry to 1:09:50.560 --> 1:09:54.280 try to exit. It's okay, get some advice first. But 1:09:54.360 --> 1:09:56.759 their colleagues are saying that they're being inundated with questions 1:09:56.760 --> 1:09:59.599 around what do we actually do here? Because we don't 1:09:59.640 --> 1:10:01.960 really want to pay the tax and you know, you 1:10:01.960 --> 1:10:05.240 can understand why, and so they're trying to come up 1:10:05.240 --> 1:10:07.599 with strategies to make sure the money is still working. 1:10:08.360 --> 1:10:12.519 I can't understand why they spend it so wisely charitable 1:10:12.560 --> 1:10:13.639 of us, it's very charitable. 1:10:14.640 --> 1:10:17.280 So it's just one of these things that people don't 1:10:17.320 --> 1:10:20.559 like the idea of. And so how do we navigate 1:10:20.600 --> 1:10:22.680 around this? But we've got a bear in mind that 1:10:22.720 --> 1:10:24.559 you know, we're taking it out of a very tax 1:10:24.600 --> 1:10:29.120 effective environment. Perhaps investing that money personally isn't the greatest move. 1:10:29.200 --> 1:10:31.520 So we've just got to weigh up what the consequences 1:10:31.560 --> 1:10:35.360 look like. And everyone's portfolio is different, and so there's 1:10:35.479 --> 1:10:39.400 different types of portfolios that have been constructed, and so 1:10:39.520 --> 1:10:42.080 maybe it's better to just cop the tax because you're 1:10:42.080 --> 1:10:43.200 actually going to pay less. 1:10:43.040 --> 1:10:45.240 In the long run. It's the principle that's upset people 1:10:45.280 --> 1:10:47.320 more than the practice. I think, Okay, let's go to 1:10:47.360 --> 1:10:51.920 more calls. How Steven's got one for you? Hi, Steven, mate, Good, 1:10:51.920 --> 1:10:52.960 you got Blake? What's the question. 1:10:54.240 --> 1:10:57.960 I'm currently with one of the big industry super funds. 1:10:58.000 --> 1:10:59.920 I've been talking to a financial planner. I'm in my 1:11:00.080 --> 1:11:03.200 early fifties, and they're recommending some of the retail funds 1:11:03.280 --> 1:11:06.720 or platforms like PUB twenty four and other things like that, 1:11:07.400 --> 1:11:09.719 which just after a bit of feedback on the difference, 1:11:10.320 --> 1:11:11.080 the difference of the. 1:11:11.040 --> 1:11:13.960 Two, yeah, I suppose in a nutshell, and it really 1:11:13.960 --> 1:11:16.400 comes down to what you're after. So you know, if 1:11:16.720 --> 1:11:19.040 the industry fund's ticking all the boxes for you, then 1:11:19.080 --> 1:11:21.880 there's nothing wrong with the industry fund. Some of the 1:11:21.920 --> 1:11:24.720 other platforms like a HUB twenty four or you know 1:11:24.760 --> 1:11:28.240 there's a BT Panorama or others. You know, what they 1:11:28.280 --> 1:11:32.120 do is they offer flexibility. And so when I say flexibility, 1:11:32.120 --> 1:11:35.080 i'm talking about you know, you've got the a world 1:11:35.160 --> 1:11:37.519 of investment options to choose from. You can go into 1:11:37.520 --> 1:11:41.840 direct equities or exchange traded funds, you can buy term 1:11:41.880 --> 1:11:45.040 deposits through them, although some industry funds do offer term 1:11:45.040 --> 1:11:48.920 deposits as an option, So that would be the reason 1:11:48.920 --> 1:11:50.960 for changing or going into a platform like that if 1:11:51.000 --> 1:11:54.000 you are wanting to actually see what you're invested in. 1:11:54.200 --> 1:11:57.040 Industry funds don't really provide this too. Well, they say 1:11:57.040 --> 1:11:59.080 you're in Australian shares and you say, well, what shares 1:11:59.080 --> 1:12:02.320 am I in? Well, Australian chairs, good luck, And so 1:12:02.680 --> 1:12:05.280 the platforms offer you the ability to say, well, actually 1:12:05.280 --> 1:12:07.800 I want some BHP or I want some Commonwealth Bank. 1:12:07.960 --> 1:12:11.080 I want to actually know what's going on there. The 1:12:11.120 --> 1:12:13.519 platforms can be a little bit more expensive because you're 1:12:13.560 --> 1:12:17.640 getting you're getting access to many different investments. So just 1:12:17.680 --> 1:12:20.000 find out what the costs are, make sure you're comfortable 1:12:20.000 --> 1:12:23.080 with the decision that you're making, and really it comes 1:12:23.080 --> 1:12:24.880 down to what do you actually need and what do 1:12:24.920 --> 1:12:26.960 you feel is the right move moving forward. 1:12:27.000 --> 1:12:29.960 Okay, Stephen, good question. Mike's got an interesting one, Hime. Mike. 1:12:31.439 --> 1:12:34.920 Yeah, Look, I'm just wondering in relation to the super 1:12:35.600 --> 1:12:38.439 I know the rules of the family home, what would 1:12:38.479 --> 1:12:41.200 we be up against in what we're both still alive 1:12:41.280 --> 1:12:44.240 converting our house into the boys' names? 1:12:44.640 --> 1:12:45.000 Okay? 1:12:45.080 --> 1:12:47.240 Have you always lived in the home, Mike? 1:12:47.320 --> 1:12:47.559 Have you? 1:12:47.720 --> 1:12:47.840 Yes? 1:12:47.960 --> 1:12:49.679 Had always been the home? Okay, So if you converted 1:12:49.760 --> 1:12:53.200 into the boys name, capital gains tax is unlikely to 1:12:53.240 --> 1:12:57.360 be there. What you will be up for is stamp duty. Now, 1:12:57.400 --> 1:12:59.600 stamp duty gets calculated based on market rates. So you 1:12:59.600 --> 1:13:02.280 can't give to the boys for a dollar and expect 1:13:02.320 --> 1:13:05.400 to not pay any stamp duty. It just won won't happen. 1:13:05.479 --> 1:13:06.760 So you've just got to work out, well, what's the 1:13:06.880 --> 1:13:08.960 value of the property. Maybe speak to a real estate 1:13:09.040 --> 1:13:12.960 agent or get it valued, and then you can go 1:13:13.040 --> 1:13:16.960 online and look up how much stamp duty would be 1:13:17.000 --> 1:13:20.360 applicable for that transaction. You could speak to a conveyance, 1:13:20.360 --> 1:13:22.960 so I suppose who would help you do the title transfer, 1:13:23.080 --> 1:13:26.479 but just be aware that there would be some stamp 1:13:26.560 --> 1:13:29.200 duty on that. You're also giving away the family home, 1:13:29.320 --> 1:13:31.679 so if you're going to live somewhere else, that's fine. 1:13:31.760 --> 1:13:35.400 If you're planning on renting, there could be some center 1:13:35.439 --> 1:13:40.360 Link implications for doing so. Equally, you're gifting moneys away, 1:13:40.479 --> 1:13:43.519 so maybe if there could be some grainny flat right 1:13:43.880 --> 1:13:47.400 arrangements where you can get around that with Centerlink. I'd 1:13:47.520 --> 1:13:50.200 encourage you, Mike, just to get some advice first before 1:13:50.240 --> 1:13:53.160 you transfer it. Understand the costs, Understand the complications on 1:13:53.200 --> 1:13:57.080 say age pension, and make sure you're making that informed decision, 1:13:57.120 --> 1:13:59.439 because there's a few different aspects here that you might 1:14:00.080 --> 1:14:00.680 might want to look at. 1:14:00.800 --> 1:14:02.800 A couple of knock ons. Good question though, Thank you, Mike, 1:14:02.840 --> 1:14:05.160 Thank you Blake. A lot of questions still coming through 1:14:05.200 --> 1:14:07.240 York here same time. Next week. We'll delve into them. 1:14:07.240 --> 1:14:08.840 Then I'll see you there all the best Blake went 1:14:08.880 --> 1:14:11.479 there from Pretzel. Don't forget that complimentary consultation book with 1:14:11.479 --> 1:14:14.200 Blake today Pretzelwealth dot com dot AU. Now Truck's not 1:14:14.280 --> 1:14:16.439 with us today, but we'll have his tips. He sent 1:14:16.479 --> 1:14:18.479 them in to us. I'll announce those for you after 1:14:18.479 --> 1:14:21.679 two o'clock. He's apparently interstate at a footy tipping conference 1:14:21.760 --> 1:14:24.479 or something, as a workshop or something. I don't know anyway, 1:14:24.600 --> 1:14:27.840 but i'll give you the details straight after the news. 1:14:27.880 --> 1:14:34.360 Now onto GB and network stations. Back to Afternoons with 1:14:34.560 --> 1:14:35.880 Michael McClaren. 1:14:36.280 --> 1:14:38.240 Right over into the third hour. Thank you for joining us. 1:14:38.240 --> 1:14:40.760 If you just come along. If you missed the first 1:14:40.800 --> 1:14:43.479 few hours, our interview with Scott Morrison, the former Prime Minister, 1:14:43.560 --> 1:14:45.479 will be put up as a podcast. You'll be able 1:14:45.520 --> 1:14:47.800 to get that off two GB dot com. A number 1:14:47.800 --> 1:14:49.759 of people have said that interview you did with David 1:14:49.840 --> 1:14:52.879 murray last week's very important. Can that as a podcast? 1:14:52.920 --> 1:14:57.240 I believe it is already available as a standalone podcast. Again, 1:14:57.360 --> 1:15:00.280 just go to my page on the two beat a 1:15:00.320 --> 1:15:04.200 com website and stroll through a couple of tabs or whatever. 1:15:04.200 --> 1:15:06.200 You'll find it there and share it around. I think 1:15:06.280 --> 1:15:09.799 it was an important chat. David Murray very very clear 1:15:10.040 --> 1:15:13.280 in his thoughts on the situation with the three million 1:15:13.280 --> 1:15:16.519 dollars super tax and the principle really of unrealized capital 1:15:16.560 --> 1:15:20.160 gains having been breached. Now we'll get to chuck STIPs 1:15:20.160 --> 1:15:22.600 in just a second for what they're worth. Later this 1:15:22.760 --> 1:15:27.720 hour I'll be joined by Charles Croucher from nine down 1:15:27.760 --> 1:15:31.920 and Cambrick down to Parliament House. The Coalition have got 1:15:31.960 --> 1:15:34.800 back together as was expected, probably a little quicker than 1:15:34.920 --> 1:15:37.959 I expect, but anyway, they're back together, which is sensible 1:15:38.000 --> 1:15:40.400 and good for Australian democracy. You need a functioning and 1:15:40.720 --> 1:15:43.519 reasonably robust opposition as limited as they are in number 1:15:43.560 --> 1:15:46.840 at the moment. But we are having in about ten 1:15:47.160 --> 1:15:51.000 five or ten minutes now the Opposition leader, I think 1:15:51.040 --> 1:15:53.040 Susan Lee will step up to the podium and announce 1:15:53.080 --> 1:15:55.920 the shadow cabinet, who's in, who's out, all that sort 1:15:55.960 --> 1:15:59.360 of stuff. Will break that down for you with Charles 1:15:59.360 --> 1:16:03.120 crouchertter in the hour now, Speaking of political matters, a 1:16:03.240 --> 1:16:07.599 rather grammatically challenging headline before me here says what agrees 1:16:07.640 --> 1:16:11.200 to Woodside's Northwest shelf time extension and the purest would say, 1:16:11.200 --> 1:16:13.800 shouldn't that be who? But no, we're talking here about 1:16:13.840 --> 1:16:17.760 Murray What. Of course, freshly minted environment Minister Murray What 1:16:18.000 --> 1:16:23.800 is approved a four decade extension of Woodside's Northwest Shelf project. 1:16:24.240 --> 1:16:26.839 This is obviously off the coast of w A, following 1:16:26.920 --> 1:16:30.600 lengthy delays in signing off on the controversial what are 1:16:30.600 --> 1:16:36.080 you giggling at? Whatever? Who or whom? Who cares? Uh, 1:16:36.760 --> 1:16:40.599 that's the point that counts, So the Northwest Shelf project 1:16:40.640 --> 1:16:45.080 another four years. The approval of the project will attract 1:16:45.080 --> 1:16:48.639 strong condemnation from the environmentalists, of course, but I think 1:16:48.680 --> 1:16:51.360 in the real world we understand this has to happen. 1:16:52.080 --> 1:16:54.759 So that's gone through as a statement from the Senator. 1:16:54.920 --> 1:16:56.679 I might share some of that with you a little 1:16:56.720 --> 1:16:57.400 bit later on. 1:17:03.320 --> 1:17:08.920 Now one afternoons, it's your weekly dose of NRL tipping winch. 1:17:13.360 --> 1:17:13.519 Well. 1:17:13.520 --> 1:17:15.680 As I said, Chuck can't be with us today. I 1:17:15.760 --> 1:17:19.559 believe he's into State ad a tips to self improvement conference. 1:17:20.360 --> 1:17:23.920 But nonetheless, here are his tips. I know a lot 1:17:23.920 --> 1:17:26.439 of you hang on his every word, and if you 1:17:26.560 --> 1:17:29.200 hang on him last week, you've been left angling because 1:17:29.200 --> 1:17:32.800 he got zip from five. As one of my rather 1:17:33.080 --> 1:17:36.000 witty and pithy correspondents said to me on the email, 1:17:36.400 --> 1:17:40.160 a biological miracle that occurred, A chuck managed to produce 1:17:40.160 --> 1:17:42.920 a duck. But nonetheless, here we go for state of 1:17:42.960 --> 1:17:48.639 origin tonight Chuck says the Blues and oh he's thrown 1:17:48.680 --> 1:17:53.799 into score prediction. Wow, how about this twenty three sixteen? 1:17:54.360 --> 1:17:57.000 That's what he reckons New South Wales twenty three the 1:17:57.080 --> 1:17:59.920 Maroons sixteen. So he's gone for the Blues. Look, I 1:18:00.080 --> 1:18:02.559 think you know the smart money, if there's such a thing, 1:18:02.640 --> 1:18:06.120 is on the Blues is in hide back him there. Now, 1:18:06.240 --> 1:18:07.800 As for the rest of the round, what are we 1:18:07.880 --> 1:18:09.680 round twelve? Now? I think of the NRL. An't we 1:18:10.600 --> 1:18:13.160 Dragons up against the Knights? He's gone for the Dragons. 1:18:13.160 --> 1:18:16.840 Has the Chuckster up against the Knights? So let's see 1:18:16.880 --> 1:18:20.679 what happens there. They are playing a jubilee now Saturday 1:18:20.720 --> 1:18:23.400 night or Saturday afternoon rather the Titans up against the Storm. 1:18:23.400 --> 1:18:26.519 He's tipped the Storm. They are playing on the Gold Coast, 1:18:26.560 --> 1:18:28.960 but I think most people would say the Storm are 1:18:29.120 --> 1:18:31.320 likely to win, although they'll have a few out well. 1:18:31.360 --> 1:18:34.599 Backing up from Origin, the Cowboys up against the Tigers. 1:18:34.640 --> 1:18:36.000 This will be the match of the round of course, 1:18:36.080 --> 1:18:41.800 Queensland Country Bank Stadium, Townsville, HQ. He's gone for the Cowboys. 1:18:43.280 --> 1:18:45.679 It's been cool, all right. I think he's right. Sea 1:18:45.720 --> 1:18:50.040 Eagles up against the Broncos on Saturday night. Broncos is 1:18:50.120 --> 1:18:53.600 the chuckster's tip, and rabbit O's up against the Warriors 1:18:53.600 --> 1:18:56.040 on Sunday. That'll be two o'clock. I think that match 1:18:56.040 --> 1:18:59.200 actually on Sunday because it's from a course stadium in Sydney. 1:18:59.360 --> 1:19:04.720 He's gone for the Bunnies, the Bunnies to beat the Warriors. Okay, well, 1:19:04.720 --> 1:19:05.840 if it up to me, I think I would have 1:19:05.880 --> 1:19:07.519 gone the Warriors. But anyway, we've got to follow the 1:19:07.560 --> 1:19:10.439 We've gotta follow the Guru. So his tips New South 1:19:10.439 --> 1:19:13.160 Wales tonight, New South Wales. I hang on this more? 1:19:13.200 --> 1:19:16.759 What am I doing? There's more Panthers vv Eels on Sunday. 1:19:16.800 --> 1:19:21.200 That's the four o'clock game Panthers, says the chuck and 1:19:21.840 --> 1:19:25.600 then wrapping up Sunday night six fifteen pm kickoff. I 1:19:25.600 --> 1:19:28.920 think Roosters and Raiders. He's back to his own team. 1:19:28.920 --> 1:19:32.760 He's back the Roosters. Okay. Oh, he's gone for a 1:19:32.760 --> 1:19:35.200 couple of a couple of outsiders, I'd say anyway, So 1:19:35.240 --> 1:19:37.479 there you go, Chuck Reckons the Blues tonight, and then 1:19:37.600 --> 1:19:45.000 Dragons Storm, Cowboys, Broncos, rabbit Os, panthers and roosters, and 1:19:45.120 --> 1:19:46.760 we'll put all of those up on the two QB 1:19:46.880 --> 1:19:50.519 presenter tipping list if you missed a couple one three, 1:19:50.600 --> 1:19:53.479 one eight seven three the open line number one three, 1:19:53.520 --> 1:19:57.799 one eight seven three. A lot of stuff around. Interesting 1:19:58.000 --> 1:20:02.680 story out of Denmark, and I wonder if it's a 1:20:02.720 --> 1:20:06.000 sign of the times. The Danes apparently are going to 1:20:06.080 --> 1:20:10.639 raise their retirement age to seventy by the year twenty forty. 1:20:10.720 --> 1:20:13.400 That's not that far away. If they do it, and 1:20:13.479 --> 1:20:15.600 well they will do it, it'll be the highest in Europe. 1:20:16.280 --> 1:20:18.000 The fen Review reporting it was a pretty tight, well 1:20:18.120 --> 1:20:21.040 controversial vote in parliament. Wasn't tight. He got through eighty 1:20:21.080 --> 1:20:24.680 one to twenty one. It has been approved by the legislature. 1:20:25.120 --> 1:20:28.600 The age of retirement has been tied to life expectancy 1:20:28.680 --> 1:20:30.760 over there, and to a degree, I think that's what 1:20:30.880 --> 1:20:34.040 happens everywhere, but in Denmark at the moment the average 1:20:34.439 --> 1:20:37.840 expectancy is eighty one point seven years, so just shy 1:20:37.880 --> 1:20:41.400 of eighty two years. But they'll be working till there's seventy, 1:20:41.920 --> 1:20:46.759 so not too much of a retirement, and the government decided, okay, 1:20:46.800 --> 1:20:49.360 we'll raise the threshold every five years. Now, under the 1:20:49.400 --> 1:20:53.040 Danish system, the retirement age will rise from sixty seven 1:20:53.560 --> 1:20:56.599 to sixty eight in twenty thirty, then up to sixty 1:20:56.680 --> 1:20:58.479 nine by twenty thirty five, and yep, you guessed it, 1:20:58.520 --> 1:21:01.600 by twenty forty up to seventy. The retirement age of 1:21:01.600 --> 1:21:04.120 seventy will only apply to Danes that are born after 1:21:04.200 --> 1:21:10.120 December the thirty first, nineteen seventy. Should they call that grandfathering? 1:21:10.400 --> 1:21:13.439 Maybe it is. In that circumstance. The Prime minister over 1:21:13.479 --> 1:21:16.439 there has admitted that the sliding scale for retirement isn't 1:21:16.479 --> 1:21:19.800 sustainable and that a news system will eventually need to 1:21:19.840 --> 1:21:24.559 replace it. Okay, Now, there's a number of issues that 1:21:24.600 --> 1:21:27.519 come up with this, because whereas once upon a time 1:21:27.600 --> 1:21:31.160 there was a fairly high percentage of most Western economies 1:21:31.160 --> 1:21:35.800 where the workers were manual workers, these days the percentage 1:21:35.800 --> 1:21:40.439 of white collar workers, technicians, professionals, or whatever the term 1:21:40.479 --> 1:21:44.240 happens to be people in the services industry is growing, 1:21:45.120 --> 1:21:50.639 and so theoretically, because they're not putting their physical shoulder 1:21:50.680 --> 1:21:54.160 to the wheel five or six days a week. Theoretically 1:21:54.200 --> 1:21:59.439 they can work longer, but there's the whole quality of 1:21:59.479 --> 1:22:01.880 life thing in play, and you don't want to discriminate 1:22:01.920 --> 1:22:05.040 between the manual workers and the office workers and then 1:22:05.080 --> 1:22:06.720 the workers from home and the rest of it. So 1:22:06.960 --> 1:22:10.000 you've got to land on a figure. And this is 1:22:10.000 --> 1:22:12.919 where a lot of economies are struggling, I think, because 1:22:13.000 --> 1:22:15.280 they've realized age pensions can't go on the way they 1:22:15.320 --> 1:22:18.679 are forever. The percentage of workers vi retirees is shifting 1:22:19.120 --> 1:22:21.360 in favor of the retirees, not the workers, and so 1:22:21.520 --> 1:22:23.240 you know, we just don't have the money in the bank. 1:22:23.920 --> 1:22:27.080 People are living longer, so it's not sustainable to give 1:22:27.160 --> 1:22:31.200 people the pension for thirty five years after their retirement. 1:22:31.960 --> 1:22:34.120 So you've got to shrink that gap. All of these 1:22:34.160 --> 1:22:36.400 different things are being thrown into the calculation, but at 1:22:36.439 --> 1:22:39.200 some point they're still going to be brick layers and 1:22:39.360 --> 1:22:42.760 steel fabricators and roofers and tilers and all these sort 1:22:42.800 --> 1:22:45.880 of people. They're probably not on average, going to be 1:22:45.880 --> 1:22:48.120 ga able to be working at seventy two, seventy three, 1:22:48.200 --> 1:22:51.799 seventy four, seventy five. Let's just be honest. It's not practical. 1:22:52.400 --> 1:22:54.720 If you're a landscape gardener, I don't think you're going 1:22:54.760 --> 1:22:59.160 to be digging trenches and hauling huge bits of pine 1:22:59.200 --> 1:23:03.680 around walls at the age of seventy seven on average. 1:23:04.000 --> 1:23:07.440 So again, all of these things have to be considered. 1:23:08.000 --> 1:23:11.559 So the Danes are moving to seventy eventually will go 1:23:11.640 --> 1:23:14.880 the same way, I'm quite sure. But how this impacts 1:23:15.160 --> 1:23:18.720 the broader electorate going forward, that is going to be 1:23:18.720 --> 1:23:20.479 something that has debated the world over. You might have 1:23:20.479 --> 1:23:22.720 some thoughts on that. Actually one three, one eight seven 1:23:22.760 --> 1:23:25.040 three is the open line number. It's quarter past two, okay, 1:23:25.320 --> 1:23:27.960 twenty past or almost twenty past two. We're still waiting 1:23:28.040 --> 1:23:31.880 for the Coalition heavies to come out and announce that 1:23:31.920 --> 1:23:34.519 shadow Cabinet. They'll be doing that in Canberra any moment. 1:23:34.640 --> 1:23:37.240 Just to repeat the news regarding energy, the Federal Government's 1:23:37.439 --> 1:23:40.599 approved the extension of the Woodside Northwest Shelf gas project. 1:23:40.640 --> 1:23:43.760 I believe for another four years. Why it took this long, 1:23:43.840 --> 1:23:45.760 I don't know. It just had to happen. Now. As 1:23:45.840 --> 1:23:49.040 regarding the police media, I've just had this come through 1:23:49.080 --> 1:23:51.000 to me that they're appealing for assistance to locate a 1:23:51.000 --> 1:23:56.679 man missing from Sydney's Northern Beaches. Ami Eta Mardi, aged 1:23:56.960 --> 1:23:59.920 twenty eight, was last seen on motor Vail Beach Motor 1:24:00.640 --> 1:24:03.919 about eleven o'clock yesterday morning. When he couldn't be contacted 1:24:04.000 --> 1:24:06.880 or located. Officers attached to Northern Beaches Police herea command 1:24:06.880 --> 1:24:10.280 were notified and commenced inquiries into his whereabouts. Amir is 1:24:10.280 --> 1:24:12.960 described as being of Mediterranean Middle Eastern appearance, about one 1:24:13.040 --> 1:24:16.040 hundred and seventy five centimeters tall, of thin build, with 1:24:16.160 --> 1:24:19.559 short brown hair. He wears glasses and he was last 1:24:19.560 --> 1:24:23.080 seen wearing a brown long sleeve shirt, light blue vest 1:24:23.400 --> 1:24:28.200 and black pants. Now about six am today, a parts 1:24:28.320 --> 1:24:32.760 by located clothing and property that police believe belongs to 1:24:32.800 --> 1:24:36.040 a Meir on Monaval Beach. Now. He's known to fre Quent, 1:24:36.120 --> 1:24:39.000 Pymble and Northern Beaches areas. Now, if you've got any 1:24:39.040 --> 1:24:41.799 information about this incident, a you are urged to contact 1:24:41.800 --> 1:24:45.160 crime Stoppers. One eight hundred triple three Triple zero. One 1:24:45.200 --> 1:24:51.080 eight hundred triple three, triple zero is the number. Now, 1:24:51.680 --> 1:24:53.879 what do you make of this? There's a story bouncing 1:24:53.880 --> 1:24:55.519 around out of the UK the other night. Look, we've 1:24:55.520 --> 1:24:56.760 all been in well, I don't know we all have. 1:24:56.840 --> 1:24:59.840 I've certainly been in plenty of sporting teams and haven't 1:24:59.840 --> 1:25:03.479 been that successful, and judging by my sporting prowess, that 1:25:03.520 --> 1:25:05.519 tended to be the result of the sporting teams. I 1:25:05.680 --> 1:25:09.280 was in the ease. The f's that sort of thing. 1:25:09.400 --> 1:25:12.080 We weren't. We weren't really playing in the big league. 1:25:13.280 --> 1:25:15.759 That was for our own safety. I think nothing else. 1:25:15.960 --> 1:25:19.559 But there's a score that came out out of the UK. 1:25:19.720 --> 1:25:21.120 I think it was one of these sort of not 1:25:21.200 --> 1:25:23.120 county cricket. It was a local cricket thing. I did 1:25:23.160 --> 1:25:24.160 a bit of that when I was over there on 1:25:24.160 --> 1:25:26.240 the gap. It was good fun until you met people 1:25:26.280 --> 1:25:27.880 that actually knew what they were doing. It's scared that 1:25:28.080 --> 1:25:32.639 the Jesus out of me. But Richmond's fourth eleven over 1:25:32.640 --> 1:25:38.200 there won the toss and elected to bowl. Now they 1:25:38.240 --> 1:25:42.920 conceded four hundred and twenty six runs. They then obviously 1:25:42.960 --> 1:25:45.960 went into that was off forty five overs, the other 1:25:46.040 --> 1:25:50.200 side six for four to twenty six of forty five overs. 1:25:50.960 --> 1:25:52.800 It must have either been a short boundary or something. 1:25:52.840 --> 1:25:55.679 But anyway, so in go to the Richmond fourth eleven 1:25:56.720 --> 1:25:59.200 needing four hundred and twenty seven to win off I 1:25:59.240 --> 1:26:04.080 assume forty five hive overs. Well, they got through five 1:26:04.120 --> 1:26:09.080 point four overs before they they were all scuttled for 1:26:09.160 --> 1:26:15.160 a grand total of two. Now, it's uh, I don't know. 1:26:15.200 --> 1:26:19.080 It's the participation that's important. Is when you're that bad, 1:26:19.840 --> 1:26:21.439 you know, you sort of think, are they really just 1:26:21.439 --> 1:26:24.000 there for the cucumber sandwiches? So all out for two? 1:26:24.320 --> 1:26:26.240 Eight of the ten batsmen were gone for a duck. 1:26:27.320 --> 1:26:30.800 It's not it's not a good look. Not a good 1:26:30.880 --> 1:26:32.880 look anyway. I don't know if you've ever been in 1:26:32.920 --> 1:26:35.519 a sporting side that's been scuttled so badly or nearly 1:26:35.520 --> 1:26:37.679 as embarrassing, lea, Perhaps you'd like to share your story 1:26:37.960 --> 1:26:39.600 one three one eight seven three. Maybe it was a 1:26:39.680 --> 1:26:41.560 rugby side that got beaten one hundred and twenty to 1:26:41.560 --> 1:26:43.360 a nil or something. See, we used to have the 1:26:43.400 --> 1:26:46.040 mercy rule at school. Not that it ever applied to 1:26:46.080 --> 1:26:48.880 teams that I was playing against, no need to ever 1:26:48.920 --> 1:26:51.679 activate it, but occasionally it was almost applied to us. 1:26:52.360 --> 1:26:53.960 But you know, if you're up sort of the other side, 1:26:54.000 --> 1:26:55.400 that is, if they are up sort of sixty four 1:26:55.520 --> 1:26:58.040 nil at half time, sort of, let's just let's all 1:26:58.040 --> 1:27:01.519 have a second orange cord. And go home early or something. Yeah, 1:27:01.520 --> 1:27:05.120 that sort of thing, mercy. It's a bit harder in 1:27:05.240 --> 1:27:08.600 one day cricket. When you set someone the team a 1:27:08.640 --> 1:27:10.640 total of four hundred and twenty seven to win, you 1:27:10.720 --> 1:27:13.200 don't really predict they'd all be gone for just two. 1:27:14.960 --> 1:27:19.439 But anyway, I guess that's sport important light left, life lesson. 1:27:19.479 --> 1:27:22.479 Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose really really badly. 1:27:23.200 --> 1:27:25.000 It's that time of the afternoon. 1:27:25.240 --> 1:27:28.120 Time to find out what's coming up on Sydney Now 1:27:28.280 --> 1:27:32.679 for the Serrato successor the turbo charged Kak four kias 1:27:32.720 --> 1:27:36.559 on new small sedan GT Line veryant available. Now find 1:27:36.560 --> 1:27:38.840 out more about Kia's latest small car. 1:27:39.320 --> 1:27:43.120 Well, here he is Clinton made art himself aka Sydney 1:27:43.360 --> 1:27:46.719 Now I think referred to this morning on the number 1:27:46.760 --> 1:27:50.400 one breakfast show in this city as I think I 1:27:50.479 --> 1:27:52.519 just don only get this wrong, but I think the 1:27:52.600 --> 1:27:57.799 allegation was the thinking woman's sex symbol, sex symbol, sex bomb, 1:27:58.080 --> 1:28:01.000 something like that sex symbol thanks yet to be denied 1:28:01.120 --> 1:28:02.960 by Clinton. Maynard. Hello Clinton, I've been. 1:28:02.840 --> 1:28:06.200 Looking forward to talking to the cutest boy yes in 1:28:06.240 --> 1:28:06.719 the building. 1:28:06.800 --> 1:28:14.559 Mick mack Helo, Hello, Sexy Beast, I love Pordo he's 1:28:14.640 --> 1:28:17.400 for the governments today. I don't know what was going 1:28:17.400 --> 1:28:21.720 on in breakfast, but it was interesting point to make 1:28:21.760 --> 1:28:27.840 that the claim about me has been fiercely criticized and 1:28:27.880 --> 1:28:31.479 attacked by certain people on board who think it should 1:28:31.479 --> 1:28:33.559 be them. One of them's just walked in, Cameron de Carlo. 1:28:34.200 --> 1:28:36.000 He's got one pair of shorts. Well, he only has 1:28:36.000 --> 1:28:37.840 one pair of shorts, but he wears them particularly well 1:28:38.400 --> 1:28:41.600 in more ways than one. But he he is of 1:28:41.640 --> 1:28:43.759 the belief he is the cutest boy in the building. 1:28:45.280 --> 1:28:45.920 What do you think? 1:28:46.320 --> 1:28:49.240 No, I'm giving you the title. I agree with Ben completely, 1:28:49.280 --> 1:28:52.760 and particularly with your style. The fact that you've had 1:28:52.760 --> 1:28:55.800 the guts to wear Marone today. Purple, which is rats 1:28:55.800 --> 1:28:58.559 closer to mona happens when you mix blue and red. 1:28:59.320 --> 1:29:03.120 So he's he's wearing folks. He's wearing a West Tiger's shirt, 1:29:03.400 --> 1:29:06.680 his high viz yellow. Yes and over that is a 1:29:06.800 --> 1:29:10.760 Morone Jumpers purple jumper. Purple jumper. Well, I'm not wearing that. 1:29:10.800 --> 1:29:13.720 I am at least wearing the official statum. You've got 1:29:13.720 --> 1:29:16.679 the real thing, hoodie. You look very smart. Nobody's asked 1:29:16.680 --> 1:29:17.599 me for my tips today. 1:29:18.320 --> 1:29:19.960 No, who do you support? 1:29:20.240 --> 1:29:20.400 Well? 1:29:20.479 --> 1:29:22.800 New South Wales by how many New South Well, I'm 1:29:22.840 --> 1:29:25.040 formally tipping New South Wales. I think Queen's gonna win, 1:29:25.240 --> 1:29:26.400 but I'm formally. 1:29:26.120 --> 1:29:27.559 I think I don't think. I think your Southwest. 1:29:27.720 --> 1:29:29.680 It's a no brain. They're playing at son called Game one. 1:29:29.720 --> 1:29:32.000 Look at their lineup. But I'm tipping New South Wales 1:29:32.040 --> 1:29:34.080 because I've been criticized for not supporting my team, so 1:29:34.120 --> 1:29:35.280 formally tipping New South Wales. 1:29:35.280 --> 1:29:37.280 Okay, what about Cronala, Well they're not. 1:29:37.560 --> 1:29:39.000 I think I think they've got a really good chance 1:29:39.040 --> 1:29:40.559 this weekend. Bye, they're playing. 1:29:40.320 --> 1:29:42.960 Good yes, yeah, good luck to them all. Right now 1:29:43.000 --> 1:29:44.360 after three o'clock, what's happening? 1:29:44.439 --> 1:29:46.280 Yeah, plenty. Coming up on the program, we'll have a 1:29:46.280 --> 1:29:49.559 look at the train's three person panel announced today to 1:29:49.640 --> 1:29:52.639 conduct a review. It is a review into a review. 1:29:53.640 --> 1:29:57.240 That's actually the formality because they the Walsh Report was 1:29:57.280 --> 1:30:00.920 conducted and Carolyn Walsh is now part of this review 1:30:01.040 --> 1:30:04.240 and she'll be conducting a review of what she previously reviewed, 1:30:04.240 --> 1:30:05.160 just to see where they're up to. 1:30:05.240 --> 1:30:07.759 But this is yes minute, this is just so government, 1:30:07.840 --> 1:30:09.479 isn't it. We'll have a review to look at the 1:30:09.520 --> 1:30:11.719 review and then we'll have an inquiry about the review, 1:30:11.720 --> 1:30:13.880 and then we'll have a review into the inquiry, and 1:30:13.880 --> 1:30:14.719 then we'll have an election. 1:30:15.160 --> 1:30:17.400 The reality is I was inundated with messages while I 1:30:17.400 --> 1:30:19.719 was on are yesterday afternoon with problems with the Metro 1:30:20.800 --> 1:30:21.479 Monday afternoon. 1:30:21.520 --> 1:30:22.240 It was the T one. 1:30:22.320 --> 1:30:25.360 Now, there were certain circumstances that triggered the T one problems, 1:30:25.400 --> 1:30:27.160 but it also meant that if you're on the line 1:30:27.160 --> 1:30:29.400 throughout city's western suburbs, you're also affected by what was 1:30:29.400 --> 1:30:34.040 happening in our tament Friday afternoon. Yes, we had weather 1:30:34.200 --> 1:30:36.720 events that occurred in the middle of the day, but 1:30:36.880 --> 1:30:38.479 is that an excuse for the City Circle to be 1:30:38.479 --> 1:30:40.840 it standstill at three point fifteen of course, and then 1:30:40.880 --> 1:30:42.760 the forty eight hours outage before that. 1:30:43.240 --> 1:30:45.800 Yeah. Now, I don't want to cut the rail network 1:30:45.840 --> 1:30:47.840 any slack because I don't think they necessarily deserve it. 1:30:48.120 --> 1:30:50.080 But if you go to the UK, where they've had 1:30:50.320 --> 1:30:52.200 an extensive rail network for a long time, you get 1:30:52.200 --> 1:30:54.639 the quote unquote wrong type of snow and the whole 1:30:54.640 --> 1:30:56.800 thing shuts down as well. So it's not as if 1:30:56.800 --> 1:31:00.360 it's only Sydney that has a weather related issue, and. 1:31:00.320 --> 1:31:02.799 They have plenty of industrial relations problems with that particular 1:31:02.840 --> 1:31:06.040 workforce as well. Yes, certainly they have it, so we'll 1:31:06.080 --> 1:31:07.400 have a look at that. Also going to have a 1:31:07.439 --> 1:31:10.320 look at the effects of concussion with an expert in 1:31:10.360 --> 1:31:12.320 this field. But there's been obviously not a focus on 1:31:12.360 --> 1:31:16.320 concussion AFL particularly right Yeah, AFL other context sports including 1:31:16.400 --> 1:31:20.320 rugby league and rugby union. But a teenager passed away 1:31:20.360 --> 1:31:23.360 this week in New Zealand playing run it Straight, which 1:31:23.360 --> 1:31:25.439 has received a little bit of attention in the past 1:31:25.520 --> 1:31:28.160 couple of weeks. Run it Straight is. Yes, it's a 1:31:28.240 --> 1:31:30.479 very physical form of what we would have played back 1:31:30.479 --> 1:31:33.120 in the day, tackle bull rushes, something like that, but 1:31:33.360 --> 1:31:36.759 it's the way social media is being used to really 1:31:36.840 --> 1:31:39.920 push these trends along that are quite dangerous. So we're 1:31:39.920 --> 1:31:42.799 going to talk to an expert in concussion about that. Plus, 1:31:42.960 --> 1:31:45.240 we often this time of the year, coming up towards 1:31:45.280 --> 1:31:47.760 the end of the financial year, here a warning from 1:31:47.760 --> 1:31:50.799 the ATO about what we can't claim for tax deductions. 1:31:50.800 --> 1:31:52.800 How we're going to find ourselves in trouble if we 1:31:52.880 --> 1:31:54.840 claim things that we're not really entitled to. What some 1:31:54.880 --> 1:31:56.920 research has been released today from H and R Block 1:31:57.439 --> 1:32:00.000 that sixty six percent of us actually not making claims 1:32:00.080 --> 1:32:03.479 correctly and doing ourselves out of five hundred dollars per year. 1:32:03.479 --> 1:32:04.200 So I'll be speaking with. 1:32:04.280 --> 1:32:05.120 H and R Block about that. 1:32:05.360 --> 1:32:08.120 Did you text deduct the dry cleaning of that jersey 1:32:08.160 --> 1:32:08.719 that you're wearing. 1:32:09.320 --> 1:32:10.720 It hasn't been dry lead yet. 1:32:10.840 --> 1:32:14.160 Oh okay, cutting your some slack. Thanks Clinton, Clinton, of course, 1:32:14.320 --> 1:32:16.960 straight after three o'clock with Sydney Now Susan Lee, the 1:32:17.240 --> 1:32:20.479 Opposition leader. Official Opposition leaders just stood up in Canberra 1:32:20.520 --> 1:32:22.960 to start outlining the shadow cabinet. Let's have a listen 1:32:23.320 --> 1:32:23.800 and we can. 1:32:23.680 --> 1:32:27.920 Announce our new coalition shadow ministry. I want to thank you, 1:32:28.000 --> 1:32:30.960 David for the respectful and productive way that you and 1:32:31.000 --> 1:32:33.960 I have engaged throughout this process, and I know that 1:32:34.000 --> 1:32:38.559 we will be a great partnership going forward. I promise 1:32:38.680 --> 1:32:40.640 my leadership would be done differently, and it will be. 1:32:41.800 --> 1:32:45.559 I've communicated with every single member of my party room 1:32:45.920 --> 1:32:49.200 about this shadow ministry, those who are in the Shadow 1:32:49.200 --> 1:32:53.200 Ministry and those who are not. Now that style might 1:32:53.280 --> 1:32:58.120 be unconventional, but it's important because I always said that 1:32:58.280 --> 1:33:02.080 I would harness the talents of my party room. Everyone 1:33:02.160 --> 1:33:05.599 has a role to play, even if they're not formally 1:33:05.760 --> 1:33:10.240 in this lineup, and as I said, I've communicated with 1:33:10.600 --> 1:33:14.000 every member of my party room, all fifty four because 1:33:14.040 --> 1:33:17.719 this is a team that draws on the deep well 1:33:18.000 --> 1:33:23.080 of the Australian experience. It includes those who've served in uniform, 1:33:23.080 --> 1:33:27.719 migrants and the descendants of the oldest continuous culture on Earth. 1:33:28.800 --> 1:33:32.000 There are those who've balanced the books in small businesses 1:33:32.720 --> 1:33:37.240 and those who've made tough calls in corporate boardrooms. Our 1:33:37.280 --> 1:33:43.080 team is one of strivers and optimists, of leaders and listeners. 1:33:44.040 --> 1:33:46.840 We have voices from the city to the bush, people 1:33:46.840 --> 1:33:49.719 who went to university and those who got a trade. 1:33:50.800 --> 1:33:55.559 The new Coalition Shadow Ministry balances experience with new talent. 1:33:56.680 --> 1:34:01.440 It reflects the full range of our philosophical traditions, values 1:34:01.760 --> 1:34:06.320 and perspectives across our two great party rooms. And this 1:34:06.439 --> 1:34:09.679 is important because our parties are at their best when 1:34:09.680 --> 1:34:14.439 they work together to fight right now as a strong 1:34:14.720 --> 1:34:19.120 opposition for this government. Now, I'm really excited to work 1:34:19.360 --> 1:34:23.200 with my new economic team, Ted O'Brien as Shadow Treasurer 1:34:23.560 --> 1:34:28.679 and James Patterson in Finance Andrew Bragg in a new 1:34:28.920 --> 1:34:34.400 productivity and deregulation role. This will help develop economy wide 1:34:34.479 --> 1:34:39.280 solutions to pressing issues for Australians, including housing, and as 1:34:39.320 --> 1:34:43.240 Shadow Housing Minister, Andrew will ensure that housing policy is 1:34:43.280 --> 1:34:47.360 at the heart of our economic agenda. Tim Wilson will 1:34:47.400 --> 1:34:51.400 be the Shadow Minister for Industrial Relations and Employment and 1:34:51.439 --> 1:34:56.679 most importantly, the Shadow Minister for Small Business. Dave Shalmer 1:34:56.680 --> 1:34:59.200 will also join the Economic team as the Shadow Assistant 1:34:59.240 --> 1:35:04.800 Minister for Competition, Charities and Treasury. I'm particularly proud of 1:35:04.840 --> 1:35:09.320 our Foreign Affairs, National Security and Defense team, which will 1:35:09.320 --> 1:35:15.400 include Bechaylia Cash as Shadow Foreign Minister, Angus Taylor as 1:35:15.400 --> 1:35:19.880 Shadow Defense Minister, Andrew Hasty as Shadow Home Affairs Minister, 1:35:20.439 --> 1:35:24.040 and Jason Wood as Shadow Minister for International Development and 1:35:24.080 --> 1:35:26.840 the Pacific. This is a strong team that knows what 1:35:26.880 --> 1:35:30.639 it takes to keep Australians safe. As the first woman 1:35:30.640 --> 1:35:33.000 to take on the Leader of the Opposition role, I'm 1:35:33.040 --> 1:35:36.320 also very pleased to see a number of capable women 1:35:36.560 --> 1:35:41.040 advance forward. Nothing is more central to the prosperity of 1:35:41.040 --> 1:35:45.080 Australians than our safety, so I'm excited to see Senator 1:35:45.200 --> 1:35:49.400 Jacinta nabajimper Price take on the crucial role of Shadow 1:35:49.479 --> 1:35:53.560 Minister for Defense Industry and Shadow Minister for Defense Personnel. 1:35:54.680 --> 1:35:57.160 Karen Little will come into the Shadow Cabinet and serve 1:35:57.560 --> 1:36:02.040 as Shadow Minister for Indigenous Australians and so Services. Angie 1:36:02.040 --> 1:36:04.519 Bell will come into the Shadow Cabinet with the Environment 1:36:04.520 --> 1:36:08.759 and Youth portfolios. Melissa Macintosh will take on the really 1:36:08.920 --> 1:36:13.840 important Women's portfolio and continue her great work in communications, 1:36:14.200 --> 1:36:17.080 being a strong voice for the protection of women and 1:36:17.160 --> 1:36:19.320 children from the failures of big tech. 1:36:19.400 --> 1:36:22.360 Okay, so that's Susan Lee. She continues to speak in 1:36:22.479 --> 1:36:26.200 Canberra outlining the shadow Cabinet. I'll bring you more of that. 1:36:26.320 --> 1:36:28.439 David Little Proud about to step up and give his 1:36:28.560 --> 1:36:31.000 take on all of this as well. But before we do, 1:36:31.080 --> 1:36:37.760 let's cross to the newsroom of all the other news 1:36:37.760 --> 1:36:39.040 of the day. You're a Margaret. 1:36:38.680 --> 1:36:41.559 Afternoon, Good afternoon, Michael, and yesap, we have just heard 1:36:41.600 --> 1:36:44.920 Ted O'Brien's chosen shadow treasurer. Opposition Leader Susan Lee has 1:36:45.000 --> 1:36:47.760 announced Angus Taylor moves to Defense and Andrew Hasty to 1:36:47.800 --> 1:36:51.120 Home Affairs in the shadow front bench. The Federal government 1:36:51.160 --> 1:36:53.200 has given Woodside the all clear for a massive gas 1:36:53.280 --> 1:36:55.800 development off the West Australian coast. The company will have 1:36:55.880 --> 1:36:59.759 to abide by strict environmental conditions a legal challenge against 1:37:00.080 --> 1:37:03.200 Ewington College, going co Ed's being dealt a significant blow 1:37:03.600 --> 1:37:06.320 the judge ruling the term youth in the school's trust 1:37:06.360 --> 1:37:09.519 deed was used in a gender neutral sense, and King 1:37:09.600 --> 1:37:12.160 Charles has become the first monarch in nearly seventy years 1:37:12.160 --> 1:37:15.400 to preside over the opening of Canadian Parliament. He alluded 1:37:15.400 --> 1:37:19.759 to US President Donald Trump's suggestions of annexation. Mister Trump 1:37:19.880 --> 1:37:23.519 responded on social media claiming Canada is considering an offer 1:37:23.560 --> 1:37:27.080 to become the fishty first US state in sport. Rugby 1:37:27.120 --> 1:37:30.040 Australia is pushing for the introduction of Golden Point to 1:37:30.080 --> 1:37:33.599 decide drawn games in the upcoming series between the Wallabies 1:37:33.640 --> 1:37:36.240 and British and Irish Lions. ARA wants to avoid a 1:37:36.280 --> 1:37:38.880 repeat of the twenty seventeen series between the All Blacks 1:37:38.880 --> 1:37:41.519 and Lines, which ended one All There'll be more news 1:37:41.560 --> 1:37:44.280 at three o'clock on afternoons. 1:37:44.520 --> 1:37:48.400 A finance update for Pretzel Wealth and finance for Trusted 1:37:48.479 --> 1:37:51.599 Financial Planning Just Google Blake went to Pretzel. 1:37:52.320 --> 1:37:54.200 Okay, let's catch up with Scott Phillips from the Botley 1:37:54.479 --> 1:37:57.080 full dot com dot e ue joins us Scott the 1:37:57.200 --> 1:38:00.280 monthly CPI d Arta as we discussed little earlier has 1:38:00.360 --> 1:38:03.360 been released today. It's that from the Bureau a Bureau 1:38:03.400 --> 1:38:06.960 of Statistics, rather than not mediorology. What do our inflation 1:38:07.040 --> 1:38:09.120 numbers tell us? What are the numbers telling us? 1:38:09.920 --> 1:38:13.160 Not pretty unfortunately, maybe a better forgot it from the bomb, 1:38:13.200 --> 1:38:15.799 but instead we got from the Bureau of Statistics. Two point 1:38:15.880 --> 1:38:19.439 four percent was the monthly inflation number. Now that's still 1:38:19.479 --> 1:38:20.800 much better than it has been in the past. We 1:38:20.840 --> 1:38:22.720 know that, we know it's been much much higher. The 1:38:22.720 --> 1:38:25.200 problem was that was two point four percent last month. 1:38:25.280 --> 1:38:27.360 We were hoping it was going to keep coming down, 1:38:27.800 --> 1:38:30.240 so it stayed stumbling at that kind of level. It's 1:38:30.280 --> 1:38:31.599 not the worst thing in the world. If we stayed 1:38:31.600 --> 1:38:32.960 at two and a half percent for the year, we'd 1:38:33.000 --> 1:38:37.400 be well inside of the RBA's target range. But we 1:38:37.439 --> 1:38:40.000 know this can be volatile, Sony. Any decrease would have 1:38:40.040 --> 1:38:42.439 been useful. Also, we wanted to see the trend continue, 1:38:42.479 --> 1:38:44.439 the sense that we were going to to get things 1:38:44.479 --> 1:38:47.160 to get better on inflation rather just stay stagnant. So 1:38:47.240 --> 1:38:51.479 I guess, okay, okay. Result, the problem is the annual 1:38:51.520 --> 1:38:54.280 trimmed mean actually went up. And this is the one 1:38:54.280 --> 1:38:55.600 that kind of is a bit ugly, so it was 1:38:55.640 --> 1:38:57.880 two point seven percent. Now the trim mean takes out 1:38:57.880 --> 1:39:00.479 the volatile stuff. It was two point seven scent last 1:39:00.479 --> 1:39:02.280 month in March or the month before when it was 1:39:02.439 --> 1:39:05.120 last released. The most recently released data for April release 1:39:05.160 --> 1:39:07.679 today goes up from two point seven to two point 1:39:07.800 --> 1:39:11.479 eight percent. An increase is definitely definitely not wanted. So yeah, 1:39:11.479 --> 1:39:14.720 that's where we find ourselves. Not a great result, unfortunately, 1:39:14.880 --> 1:39:16.639 could have been worse, but could have been a heap better. 1:39:17.280 --> 1:39:19.320 Probably going to have the RBA rocking back a little 1:39:19.320 --> 1:39:21.040 bit in its chair when it comes to thinking about 1:39:21.040 --> 1:39:24.160 the next rate cup potential. In July, okay, the market 1:39:24.280 --> 1:39:27.360 on the dollar markets was having a better date, so 1:39:27.360 --> 1:39:29.479 I've dropped off after lunch. We're now down a tenth 1:39:29.520 --> 1:39:32.479 of one percent eighty six hundred and twenty five points. 1:39:32.640 --> 1:39:34.519 Memberhi of the his trained dollars down seven tents of 1:39:34.560 --> 1:39:37.799 a percent sixty four point three zero us sinse wonderful. 1:39:37.880 --> 1:39:40.040 Thank you for that. Scott will catch you tomorrow. Scott 1:39:40.040 --> 1:39:43.559 Phillips said from the Motley foolfull dot com dot au. 1:39:43.920 --> 1:39:47.120 Just listening in to Susan Lee and David Little Proud. 1:39:47.120 --> 1:39:50.920 I mean couple of the important portfolios and important positions. 1:39:51.200 --> 1:39:54.479 The Shadow Treasurer will be Ted o'bright. He's enormously capable, 1:39:54.760 --> 1:39:57.000 although I think losing him out of Energy is a 1:39:57.080 --> 1:39:59.280 loss for the broader debate because he will be replaced 1:39:59.280 --> 1:40:03.719 by Dan t And I don't think to be fair, 1:40:03.840 --> 1:40:08.559 Danteene really prosecuted the immigration case with greater plom We 1:40:08.640 --> 1:40:14.440 need someone who's going to be able to forensically dissect 1:40:14.560 --> 1:40:18.960 the policies of Chris Bowen. Whether Danteene is the answer 1:40:19.280 --> 1:40:21.559 to that, I'm yet to be convinced. I hope you can. 1:40:21.760 --> 1:40:24.559 He will be joined as Assistant Minister of Energy by 1:40:24.640 --> 1:40:27.600 Senator Dean Smith. Now Dean Smith's very capable, but he 1:40:27.680 --> 1:40:29.960 isn't the Senate. But let's see what happens with those 1:40:30.000 --> 1:40:32.640 two on that issue. It's most important. Immigration goes to 1:40:32.680 --> 1:40:34.800 Senator Paul Scarr. I don't think too many people will 1:40:34.800 --> 1:40:37.559 be able to spot Paul scar in an airport lineup, 1:40:37.560 --> 1:40:40.800 but anyway, there you go. Just at a price. She's 1:40:40.960 --> 1:40:45.000 defense industry and defense personnel, so not in indigenous affairs, 1:40:45.000 --> 1:40:48.320 but moved to a different portfolio. That's okay. She needs 1:40:48.360 --> 1:40:51.920 to have it needs to be tested. As we said, 1:40:51.960 --> 1:40:55.320 earlier outside of Indigenous Affairs. Now, I don't think Defense 1:40:55.320 --> 1:40:58.320 industry and personnel is a seat at the cabinet table. 1:40:58.600 --> 1:41:01.240 I think it's on the sort of the set secondary rung, 1:41:01.280 --> 1:41:03.000 as it were. I think I'm right in saying that 1:41:03.280 --> 1:41:07.519 Andrew Hasty goes into Home affairs Michaulia Cash, I think 1:41:07.600 --> 1:41:12.200 is foreign affairs, Angus Taylor out of Treasury into defense itself. 1:41:13.240 --> 1:41:16.360 Now he'll have to prove himself there. Andrew Hasty as 1:41:16.360 --> 1:41:18.320 the said Home Affairs now Dave Sharma, he's going to 1:41:18.320 --> 1:41:22.000 be competition Tim Wilson's in as was expected, he goes 1:41:22.040 --> 1:41:24.960 into be shadow ir and small business. He will be 1:41:25.040 --> 1:41:28.559 a hand in the glove right there. Andrew Bragg very capable, 1:41:28.640 --> 1:41:31.479 send it a brag. He goes in for productivity, said 1:41:31.479 --> 1:41:35.280 Ted O'Brien, as Treasurer Finance. Alongside that will be the 1:41:35.400 --> 1:41:39.240 very capable James Patterson. So an interesting move, a bunch 1:41:39.280 --> 1:41:41.519 of moves it does. When you look down the list, 1:41:41.600 --> 1:41:45.160 look like pretty much everyone gets surprised because between shadow 1:41:45.200 --> 1:41:48.000 ministries and a shadow assistant ministries and this and that 1:41:48.120 --> 1:41:50.920 is about a thousand of them. So they'll all have 1:41:51.000 --> 1:41:54.000 some sort of role. I think were you saying Jacob 1:41:54.040 --> 1:41:56.919 Gisell capped here in depending on whether she holds Bradfield 1:41:57.000 --> 1:42:00.000 or not, gets a gurney somewhere. We'll see what happens 1:42:00.080 --> 1:42:02.320 there as well. One three one eight seven three more 1:42:02.360 --> 1:42:04.640 after this, okay, questions coming through from you about the 1:42:04.680 --> 1:42:08.599 shadow ministry. Someone asks, what about Julian Lisa. Yes, Julian 1:42:08.640 --> 1:42:11.240 Lisa will be the shadow Attorney General and the arts. 1:42:11.280 --> 1:42:13.240 He gets that one as well. But a shadow Attorney 1:42:13.240 --> 1:42:15.679 General Julian Lisa. That seems to make a lot of sense. 1:42:16.080 --> 1:42:20.719 Some noticeable absentees, Sarah Henderson and Jane Hume. I believe 1:42:20.760 --> 1:42:23.280 both dumped completely. I don't think they're getting a run. 1:42:23.640 --> 1:42:30.080 So Sarah Henderson and Jane Hume out. That's my understanding 1:42:30.120 --> 1:42:35.080 at this point in time. One three one eight seven three. 1:42:38.880 --> 1:42:40.519 All right, there's a qu to call if you want 1:42:40.520 --> 1:42:43.439 to go along to the National Wine Festival in Canberra. 1:42:43.600 --> 1:42:46.519 We can put your name in the draw. We'll be 1:42:46.600 --> 1:42:49.559 drawing the winner on Friday's program at the time we 1:42:49.600 --> 1:42:52.400 do that Friday Food. So one three one eight seven three. 1:42:52.400 --> 1:42:55.639 I need call a number five today, Please number five 1:42:55.720 --> 1:42:58.000 on the open line. One three, one eight seven three, 1:42:58.040 --> 1:43:01.480 and you're in the draw that's accommodation at the Extraordinary 1:43:01.479 --> 1:43:04.480 Park high at Candra. Two tickets to the trophy presentation 1:43:04.600 --> 1:43:07.639 dinner at Parliament House that'll be on Thursday, the twelfth 1:43:07.640 --> 1:43:11.040 of June. Two tickets to the Expo tasting event on 1:43:11.120 --> 1:43:14.439 the thirteenth. A beautiful prize. So if you want to 1:43:14.439 --> 1:43:17.000 go along, call a number five getting quick one, three, one, eight, 1:43:17.080 --> 1:43:20.479 seven to three and you will be in the drawer. 1:43:20.520 --> 1:43:23.559 As I said, we will reveal the winner on Friday. 1:43:23.880 --> 1:43:25.559 It's thirteen and a bit minutes to three. Just before 1:43:25.560 --> 1:43:27.880 we get to Track of the day. Seven years earlier, 1:43:27.880 --> 1:43:32.679 we're reporting the Cocoa twos baby formula company has recorded 1:43:32.720 --> 1:43:36.720 its product over feeding guide errors. The era relates to 1:43:36.760 --> 1:43:40.680 incorrect labeling of scoop sizes of the product, which is 1:43:40.720 --> 1:43:43.120 a world first baby formula developed here in Australia from 1:43:43.160 --> 1:43:47.559 coconut milk. A number of parents had informed that their 1:43:47.600 --> 1:43:50.560 babies were losing weight and getting sick. The father of 1:43:50.560 --> 1:43:53.160 a four month old baby, who wanted to remain anonymous, 1:43:53.200 --> 1:43:55.320 according to seven Years, said his son ended up in 1:43:55.360 --> 1:43:58.479 hospital with severe malnutrition. So just to repeat Cocoa two's 1:43:58.960 --> 1:44:02.920 baby formula, the company behind that I have recalled its 1:44:02.960 --> 1:44:07.080 product over feeding guide errors. All right, So just to 1:44:07.160 --> 1:44:07.680 let you know. 1:44:16.680 --> 1:44:19.280 Now one afternoons the track of the day. 1:44:19.760 --> 1:44:22.320 Oh, by the way, well down a Raphael of Granville. Raphael, 1:44:22.400 --> 1:44:25.720 you're on the shortlist for the announcement on Fridays to 1:44:25.920 --> 1:44:30.599 the Wonderful Wine Prize. So congratulations, stay there and we'll 1:44:30.680 --> 1:44:32.639 pull the name out of the bottle as it were 1:44:32.680 --> 1:44:34.479 on Friday to see who the lucky winner is. It's 1:44:34.479 --> 1:44:36.479 a heck of a prize. Okay, track of the day. 1:44:36.640 --> 1:44:39.000 Speaking of wonderful prizes, you want to double pass to 1:44:39.120 --> 1:44:42.120 Island Orchestrated with the one and only Damien Leith, And 1:44:42.120 --> 1:44:43.880 of course we interviewed Damien. He sung for us in 1:44:43.920 --> 1:44:46.600 here beautiful music. Well, I got a double pass. So 1:44:46.720 --> 1:44:49.320 if you want to go one three, one eight seven three, 1:44:49.320 --> 1:44:52.160 this is going to be Saturday May thirty one. Don't 1:44:52.160 --> 1:44:55.519 miss Island Orchestrated. It's Sydney's iconic State Theater. He is 1:44:55.560 --> 1:44:58.479 the voice that stole Australia's heart, Damien Leith, and the 1:44:58.479 --> 1:45:01.200 good news is he's back on stage Saturday May thirty one. 1:45:01.320 --> 1:45:03.439 If you want to go one three, one eight seven three. 1:45:03.439 --> 1:45:04.760 But you're going to have to do the hard work. 1:45:04.800 --> 1:45:07.000 First track of the day, we give you a question, 1:45:07.080 --> 1:45:08.560 you know, And I was on this day in the 1:45:08.640 --> 1:45:12.400 year two thousand, the Canberra Raiders played the Mighty Tigers. 1:45:12.680 --> 1:45:16.080 They score I think Cambra one twenty four to twenty two. 1:45:16.760 --> 1:45:20.280 But there was something rather unique about the game. All right, 1:45:20.320 --> 1:45:22.200 on this day of the year two thousand, the Raiders 1:45:22.200 --> 1:45:25.360 played the Tigers. I was in Canberra. The score was 1:45:25.360 --> 1:45:27.680 twenty four to twenty two to the Raiders. But there 1:45:27.720 --> 1:45:31.920 was something particularly unique about the game. What happened or 1:45:32.080 --> 1:45:35.840 what was it? If you can recall one, three, one, eight, 1:45:35.920 --> 1:45:38.200 seven to three and the first person with the right 1:45:38.200 --> 1:45:40.840 answer against the prize, great prize. Here's a little clue. 1:45:41.760 --> 1:45:47.920 The snow is snowing, the wind is blowing. 1:45:47.560 --> 1:45:50.639 But I can weather the star. 1:45:53.000 --> 1:45:56.960 What do I care how much it may start. 1:46:00.120 --> 1:46:04.640 I've got my love to keep me warm. 1:46:05.280 --> 1:46:10.680 I can't remember a worst December. 1:46:11.120 --> 1:46:14.559 Just watch those icycles fall. 1:46:16.439 --> 1:46:24.280 What do I care? Is iicircles fall? I've got my 1:46:24.560 --> 1:46:26.439 love to keep me. 1:46:29.040 --> 1:46:33.400 Off with my ow the code off with Michaels. 1:46:33.479 --> 1:46:34.920 All right, let's say you can find a winner one 1:46:34.920 --> 1:46:37.320 through one. No more calls full board. I'm sure we'll 1:46:37.320 --> 1:46:40.839 get one here. Carry you are through very very quickly. 1:46:41.640 --> 1:46:47.479 What you what happened, Carrie? What happened on that? They did? 1:46:48.000 --> 1:46:51.600 They did correct and a few of them got frostbot 1:46:51.640 --> 1:46:54.960 I believe as well. All right, well done, Okay, you're 1:46:54.960 --> 1:46:57.200 off to see the wonderful Damian Leith. That's going to 1:46:57.240 --> 1:46:59.880 be a beautiful, beautiful concert Saturday May thirty one. Hang, 1:47:00.080 --> 1:47:04.040 they're Kerry, well done and we'll get the double pass 1:47:04.080 --> 1:47:05.280 to you. And you were going to be in for 1:47:05.320 --> 1:47:07.439 a real treat. They did. They played in the snow. 1:47:07.800 --> 1:47:09.800 Now where are we? About ten minutes to three, David 1:47:09.800 --> 1:47:11.960 Little Proud still speaking to the media. We were hoping 1:47:11.960 --> 1:47:14.080 to speak to Nines Charles Croucher, but he's in the 1:47:14.120 --> 1:47:16.840 room obviously covering the press conference. So I suspect we 1:47:16.920 --> 1:47:18.880 might have to hand that over to Clinton or somebody else. 1:47:18.920 --> 1:47:21.040 But the better part of the Shadow Minister has all 1:47:21.040 --> 1:47:23.920 been announced to center Price out of Indigenous affairs, she 1:47:23.960 --> 1:47:29.080 goes into defense material and whatnot. Dan Tean, I think 1:47:29.120 --> 1:47:31.639 this in some ways is actually the headline the Coalition 1:47:31.680 --> 1:47:35.120 have decided. Dan Teyan is best placed to prosecute the 1:47:35.160 --> 1:47:39.439 case against Chris Bowen and just a moment ago. Obviously 1:47:39.479 --> 1:47:42.840 not everyone agrees with that, and I don't. And so 1:47:44.320 --> 1:47:46.560 Susan Lee was asked by somebody, do you think this 1:47:46.720 --> 1:47:50.120 is the right fit? And she said, words to the fact, 1:47:50.160 --> 1:47:55.760 everybody agrees. Everybody agrees Dan Tean's the right choice. Sorry, 1:47:55.800 --> 1:47:58.120 I don't think everyone does agree. Now, Look, people like 1:47:58.200 --> 1:48:01.160 me stand to be corrected. And for the nation's sake, 1:48:01.200 --> 1:48:03.600 I hope Dan rips and tears and does brilliantly, but 1:48:04.400 --> 1:48:07.800 he'll have big shoes to fill following the lead of 1:48:07.840 --> 1:48:11.680 Ted O'Brien in the last election. Despite the result, there 1:48:11.720 --> 1:48:14.640 was probably one area where the coalition we're head and 1:48:14.680 --> 1:48:19.000 shoulders above the opposition on the debate, and that is energy. Now, 1:48:19.080 --> 1:48:22.000 they didn't fully prosecute the case, probably because the headquarters 1:48:22.040 --> 1:48:24.320 didn't allow them to do it, but there's no doubt 1:48:24.560 --> 1:48:27.559 whenever they met, whenever they spoke, ted O'Brien wiped the 1:48:27.560 --> 1:48:33.040 floor with the Chris Bowen. Will Dan Tean do the same, 1:48:34.040 --> 1:48:36.479 I don't know. And he'll have a big challenge because 1:48:36.479 --> 1:48:38.920 they won't fully commit to nuclear as an alternative either, 1:48:39.000 --> 1:48:40.800 so that's going to be a difficult one for him 1:48:40.800 --> 1:48:43.720 to navigate. Anyway, there'll be full coverage about all of 1:48:43.760 --> 1:48:45.840 that with Clinton straight after three o'clock on Sydney. Now, 1:48:45.840 --> 1:48:49.479 as you can appreciate now, look, if you're not watching 1:48:49.520 --> 1:48:53.720 the shadow Cabinet being unveiled, chances are you're not a 1:48:53.760 --> 1:48:56.160 lot of people are watching other things. Now there's this 1:48:56.240 --> 1:48:59.280 show bouncing around. I've never seen an episode. I've seen 1:48:59.280 --> 1:49:01.800 the shorts of it. Probably not my kind of thing. 1:49:02.160 --> 1:49:06.040 The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, The Secret Lives of 1:49:06.160 --> 1:49:13.639 Mormon Wives. Apparently this is absolutely a ratings juggernaut and 1:49:13.720 --> 1:49:17.400 I think it follows if I'm not mistaken. Seven Mormon 1:49:17.479 --> 1:49:20.080 ladies are they all from Utah? I guess Salt Lake 1:49:20.120 --> 1:49:23.920 City or something, And it's a bit of an insight 1:49:23.960 --> 1:49:27.120 into their lives and the scandal. Anyway, so season two's 1:49:27.200 --> 1:49:30.800 arriving because season one was that enormous hit, and it 1:49:30.840 --> 1:49:34.439 says he the cast open up about six stereotypes and 1:49:35.280 --> 1:49:38.519 swinging swinging. I don't know that was a Mormon thing. 1:49:39.240 --> 1:49:41.919 But anyway, as they say here in the UK Telegraph, 1:49:41.960 --> 1:49:45.000 Mormonism is having a moment on TikTok and Instagram and 1:49:45.080 --> 1:49:49.040 hit stage and TV shows among the believers forming snaking 1:49:49.160 --> 1:49:52.200 queues outside churches from Salt Lake City to South Kensington. 1:49:52.439 --> 1:49:55.080 In the era of Trump's America, the Church of Jesus 1:49:55.160 --> 1:49:58.040 Christ of the Latter day Saints, with all its conservative 1:49:58.120 --> 1:50:02.680 rules and regulations, is riding a wave of increasing popularity. 1:50:03.520 --> 1:50:10.200 Social media is dominated by Mormon tradwife influences really, such 1:50:10.240 --> 1:50:15.200 as Nara Smith and Ballerina Farm. Now is that a 1:50:15.200 --> 1:50:19.880 place or a person? Ballerina Farm? Does anybody know? It 1:50:19.960 --> 1:50:23.160 sounds like somewhere that you'd rere unicorns or something, But 1:50:23.439 --> 1:50:27.040 maybe it's a person who presenters idyllic, old fashioned daily 1:50:27.080 --> 1:50:31.519 existence filled with Bible study, baking, and breastfeeding their never 1:50:31.680 --> 1:50:36.280 ending supply of children to the millions of followers. Sales 1:50:36.320 --> 1:50:39.759 of the Book of Mormon, the Holy Scripture that they follow, 1:50:40.040 --> 1:50:42.840 have doubled since the start of the millennium, with the church, 1:50:42.840 --> 1:50:46.519 which has around sixteen million active members worldwide, reporting that 1:50:46.560 --> 1:50:49.599 more than two hundred million copies had been distributed by 1:50:49.600 --> 1:50:52.040 twenty twenty three, up from one hundred million in the 1:50:52.120 --> 1:50:54.479 year two thousand. But they say there's another factor in 1:50:54.479 --> 1:50:58.439 the church's resurgence. Last year, reality TV gained a new 1:50:58.560 --> 1:51:01.760 mega hit in the Seak Lives of Mormon Wives, a 1:51:01.880 --> 1:51:05.720 soapy scandalous series about a group of female Mormon influences 1:51:05.760 --> 1:51:10.240 known as Mumtockers living in the state of Utah, and 1:51:10.320 --> 1:51:12.920 I think Disney put all this together. They report that 1:51:12.960 --> 1:51:15.240 season two, which launched in the UK last week, has 1:51:15.280 --> 1:51:18.120 already been watched by five million people, a marked increase 1:51:18.120 --> 1:51:20.759 from the first season premiere, according to the studio, although 1:51:20.800 --> 1:51:23.760 the increase hasn't been publicly declared, and on and on 1:51:23.840 --> 1:51:26.439 a ghost so it says here it's got all the 1:51:26.600 --> 1:51:29.360 juicy sort of stuff that TV needs. Ex best friends 1:51:29.360 --> 1:51:35.640 turned enemies, villainous backstabers, out landish gossip, illicit sex, adultery, gambling, 1:51:35.720 --> 1:51:39.160 old hear and carefully controlled social events that ninety nine 1:51:39.200 --> 1:51:42.360 percent of the time end in screaming matches, set against 1:51:42.360 --> 1:51:45.719 the backdrop of a swinging scandal that almost tore apart 1:51:45.720 --> 1:51:47.400 the lives of some of the shows cast back in 1:51:47.400 --> 1:51:51.800 twenty twenty two. It says it's a recipe for TV gold, right, 1:51:52.120 --> 1:51:54.880 So it's sort of like Maths meets the Mormons, and 1:51:55.200 --> 1:51:58.439 apparently it's rating just as well. Well, I didn't watch 1:51:58.439 --> 1:52:02.800 season one do other things, but chances are many of 1:52:02.840 --> 1:52:06.519 you did. Is it as gripping as all of that one, three, 1:52:06.520 --> 1:52:08.360 one eight seven three five to three. All right, we're 1:52:08.400 --> 1:52:09.960 out of here in a minute, but the opposition press 1:52:09.960 --> 1:52:12.280 conference continues in Canberra. David Little Proud has just been 1:52:12.280 --> 1:52:14.400 asked about just see a price going to the outer 1:52:14.520 --> 1:52:16.519 ministry with defense industry. Here he is. 1:52:16.840 --> 1:52:19.320 We've made it clear before we were disappointed that Jacina 1:52:19.439 --> 1:52:22.559 left us, but I was proud of the fact that 1:52:22.600 --> 1:52:24.880 we were the first to support her and the no 1:52:25.040 --> 1:52:27.680 case our party room, we got that cabinet position for 1:52:27.760 --> 1:52:30.839 her to give her that platform. But she has ambition 1:52:31.200 --> 1:52:33.880 beyond what my party room can give, and I don't 1:52:33.920 --> 1:52:38.479 think I should put my personal disappointment above somebody who 1:52:38.560 --> 1:52:41.120 has the ambition to have a high office than what 1:52:41.160 --> 1:52:43.120 the National Party. I think I've got to be bigger 1:52:43.160 --> 1:52:45.160 than that and think about the country and we wish 1:52:45.240 --> 1:52:47.960 it well in whatever endeavor she gets in terms of 1:52:48.000 --> 1:52:51.559 achieving that. But why should we put a ceiling on 1:52:51.600 --> 1:52:52.639 someone that has ambition? 1:52:53.160 --> 1:52:55.880 There is David Little Proud. There'll be some people saying, 1:52:56.240 --> 1:52:59.200 is this a big enough portfolio for her to test 1:52:59.240 --> 1:53:01.680 a toe in the war. Let's see, let's see. Thank 1:53:01.720 --> 1:53:03.559 you for your company. As I said, Clinton's up next 1:53:03.600 --> 1:53:05.880 with Sydney now and i'll be with you tomorrow. Have 1:53:05.880 --> 1:53:06.559 a good afternoon.