1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:01,600 Speaker 1: You don't know that I'm going to even do it. 2 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 2: You know, I may do it, I may not do it. 3 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 2: I mean, nobody knows what I'm going to do. 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 3: Until Jasindra Allen pulls her finger out and gets into 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 3: the man stress and that we're not going to have 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 3: any REALO. 7 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 4: I'm just sick of piece. 8 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 3: This is really bias from the government. 9 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 5: Also, your Prime Minister Albert Albinisi commented on the situation. 10 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 6: Were welcome leading to a panel and over caffeinated cus. 11 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 5: This is Sunday Morning with Darren, Heidi and Nick Wammy. 12 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 2: Am easy like Sunday morn. 13 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 5: It's a Sunday morning. Heidi Murphy and Nick mckelluman. Breaking news. 14 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 5: President Donald Trump has just said that a full payload 15 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 5: of bombs was dropped on the primary site four Dow 16 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 5: or four Dough, which is a hamlet in Iran. Good 17 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 5: morning to your Heidi and Nick. 18 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: It's not there are two I think it's three nuclear sites. 19 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 7: And s Fahn. 20 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, all mean and all planes have now left Iranian airspace, 21 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 2: which is why he's announced it on truth social This 22 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 2: changes everything and it will be very interesting to see 23 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 2: what happens over the next twenty four to forty eight hours, 24 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 2: President Trump went to the people and said, I'm going 25 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 2: to end all wars that are America's involved in. And 26 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 2: now what we're six months in and this is I mean, 27 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: it'll be interesting to see how the Iranians react. 28 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 7: And it is a very successful attack on nuclear sites. 29 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 7: It calls it a very successful attack. A full payload 30 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 7: of bombs was dropped on the primary site. All planes 31 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 7: are safely on their way home. Congratulations to our great 32 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 7: American warriors, says the president. There is not another military 33 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 7: in the world that could have done this full caps. 34 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 7: Now is the time for peace. Thank you for your 35 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 7: attention to this matter. 36 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: And this is after what only a couple of days 37 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: ago he said he'll make up his mind in two weeks. 38 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: And it's also after his own intelligence agencies told him 39 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 2: they don't think Iran is that close to a nuclear weapon, 40 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: and he overnight he actually said he was asked about that. 41 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: He said, well, they're wrong, including his own director of 42 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: National Intelligence Toldsea Garbat was saying exactly that. And now 43 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: she has backpedaled as well. So it's yeah, things are 44 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 2: going to. 45 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 7: Change, Yeah, they will change. This is a big development. 46 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 7: I think the US has been under pressure for some 47 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 7: time to get involved from Israel, but also wanting to 48 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 7: resist that pressure because once the US jumps into something, 49 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 7: it does suddenly become a much bigger conflict. 50 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 3: And. 51 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: Of course the US becomes targets all around the world 52 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 2: as a result of that, because Iran has its fingers 53 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: in so many pies of so many terrorists all around 54 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 2: the world, and that's and that's the frightening thing. But yeah, 55 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 2: it makes it an international, multinational confliguration. Now it was 56 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: just between Iran and Israel. Now it's expanded third party 57 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 2: and it'll be interesting and I'd love to hear from 58 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: people whether you know, if America is involved, whether Australia. 59 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 5: Should get involved on three six times, given. 60 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 2: That Australia is such a strong ally of the United States, 61 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: whether I mean, you know, obviously, whether whether it be 62 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: from troops, which I doubt very much, or whether it 63 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 2: be from equipment and moral support around the world. It'll 64 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 2: be interesting to see what the Prime Minister and the 65 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: Foreign Minister how they react to the American attacks. 66 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 5: It happened quickly, didn't he didn't it and sooner than expected, 67 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 5: as you're. 68 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 7: Just say, yeah, well he made it wasn't it wasn't 69 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 7: he just sort of joking the other day maybe yeah, 70 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 7: maybe yeah. 71 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: But then but then he and his media spokesperson said, 72 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: I think it was Friday, maybe yesterday that they would 73 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: you know, he'd given himself two weeks, he'd given the 74 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 2: Iranians two weeks to risk bomb, which of course didn't happen. 75 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 5: Give us a ring one double three sixty nine three. 76 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 5: The lines are open and calls are coming through. There's 77 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 5: a bit to talk about this morning. But this wasn't 78 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 5: planned because this has happened. When when do we find 79 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 5: out exactly I was talking to Sonya. 80 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 7: So well last five ten minutes, five ten minutes, Yeah, yeah, 81 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 7: just when it's just when it's appeared on Trump's social 82 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 7: on truth social. 83 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, give us a ring one double three sixth. 84 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 7: We're gonna try to get some expert analysis from one 85 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 7: of the international watches that we speak to regularly after 86 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 7: after eleven. But well, yeah, certainly keep tabs on us. 87 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 5: Edward joins us, good morning. 88 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 4: Hello, folks. 89 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 8: Is this is this Stasia vu? 90 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 9: I think I think it really is. 91 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 10: So he dropped his bombs on the surviso that there were, 92 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 10: you know, the nukes down there, right, someone else told 93 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 10: him there's none. 94 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 7: Right, Yes, I did think this, I guess, go ahead, Yeah, just. 95 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,239 Speaker 10: Remind you of something else called weapons. 96 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 5: Of mass destruction. 97 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, and what happened. 98 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 10: I'm waiting for this year ten years later will be 99 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 10: told the same thing on and we went to war, 100 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 10: you know, and there was nothing there. 101 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 11: Sorry, we made another mistake. 102 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 2: It is interesting. I saw a post online during the 103 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 2: week of Benjamin and neduk Nahu over the over the 104 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: years saying how close Iran was to a nuclear weapon, 105 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,799 Speaker 2: and I think the first one was nineteen ninety six, 106 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 2: talking about how they're weeks away, their weeks away, They're 107 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: weeks away. 108 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 11: Now. 109 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 2: Admittedly there have been previous attacks on Iran, so that's 110 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 2: driven them back. But clearly, if they are trying to 111 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 2: develop a nuclear weapon, they're not very good at it 112 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 2: because it's taken a lot well that we know of, 113 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 2: that we know of, but you know, for thirty years. 114 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 2: They it appears as though they they may well have 115 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 2: a bunker. 116 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 7: Of them all done and all nicely polished and ready 117 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 7: to go. And yeah, but or they may not. They 118 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 7: absolutely may not have been anywhere mirror and as Edward 119 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 7: points out, we'll only find us out in a few years. 120 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: Time, given how good Moss it is his job, if 121 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 2: they would know if yeah, they are really good at 122 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 2: their job. 123 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 5: Thanks Edward to Gary, good morning, Yes. 124 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 12: Good morning. 125 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 13: Look, the first question should be never mind about the 126 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 13: blowing up of the reactor, which was by the way, 127 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 13: I know what news you guys are ring, but an 128 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 13: all light chat was expected this weekend by most of 129 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 13: us who aren't even in the media. And the other 130 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 13: thing is what should come first and foremost. I've heard 131 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 13: nothing all week, nothing about the bombing of the Israeli hospital. 132 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 13: By the way, we don't keep weapons under there, but 133 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 13: that should have been forced for the first and foremost. 134 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 13: Nothing from the Prime Minister, nothing from the Fire and Minister. 135 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 13: Had it been a bombing of the hospital, god forbid 136 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 13: in Gaza, where they do have weapons, and they would 137 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 13: have been on the news instantly. 138 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: Well, I read some stuff about that. 139 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 7: I don't know if I haven't listened to any press conferences, 140 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 7: media conferences with the Prime Minister or the Foreign Minister 141 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 7: this week, so I do not know if it's come. 142 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 5: Up at all. 143 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know about that. Yeah, I don't know 144 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 2: whether the Prime Minister has talked about it, but there's 145 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 2: been some reporting of it. 146 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 5: Thanks garyter Ian, Good morning, Good morning guys. 147 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 14: I just wanted to say it's the knock on effect 148 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 14: of these attacks that worries me, and that goes to 149 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 14: what Nick was saying about terrorists around the world, you know, 150 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 14: rising up. And there's also important shipping lanes that run 151 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 14: at the bottom of Iran that the hoodies can limit, 152 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 14: and energy pricess and all sorts of oil prices will 153 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 14: hit the roof if those those lanes are blocked. So 154 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 14: this isn't just a one and done. This is going 155 00:07:59,920 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 14: to ripple through the world. 156 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, and may take a long time to ripple through. 157 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 7: It may take a fair while to sort through. And 158 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 7: my concern is it drags other will likely drag other 159 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 7: countries in. If it does continue to grow, we will 160 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 7: be not just financially dragged in, but maybe in terms 161 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 7: of expected to commit some of our own military resources. 162 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that is perfectly reasonable. Given Australia as a 163 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: very strong ally for the United States. There should certainly 164 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 2: be a bait and discussion about that. 165 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 5: Thanks Anan for the call on three w at a 166 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 5: quarter past ten. Now we'll keep an eye on what's 167 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 5: happened with Iran. But before we do, there's a bit 168 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 5: happening here in Victoria in the world of business with 169 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 5: a couple of issues. First up, premierges into Allen today 170 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 5: will declare that Victoria is open for business, revealing a 171 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 5: tax free threshold on payroll tax. That's the first thing. 172 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 5: There's a story from Belgrave at a lounge Barnick that 173 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 5: interests me. 174 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: Yes, Suki Lounge is going to actually add a dollar 175 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: to their bills for people who buy drinks there as 176 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 2: to compensate as a levy to compensate for public liability insurance. 177 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 2: Their insurance has gone up. It was pre pandemic fifteen 178 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 2: thousand dollars a year now up to sixty thousand, four times, 179 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 2: and that is prohibitive and that has contributed. The last 180 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 2: survey in twenty twenty three, thirteen hundred live music venues 181 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: had either closed or no longer do live music. This 182 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 2: is their way of saying, we need help from the government. 183 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 7: Because their profits haven't suddenly gone up four times. There 184 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 7: are taxes, other taxes and charges have certainly not gone 185 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 7: down four times, and they haven't been able to be 186 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 7: a very unpopular business who'd lift their prices four times 187 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 7: to find the money to pay for this. 188 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 5: To discuss this and more, Paul Guerra, Victorian Chamber of 189 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 5: Commas and Industry Chief Executive. Oh, there's the gas and 190 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 5: electricity debate as well. Bring on the gas. I'm a 191 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 5: gas man and no I'm not going to let anyone 192 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 5: take my gas away. Paul, are you a gas guy? 193 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 5: Good morning to you. 194 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 12: Good morning Darren Nick Andardi out. 195 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 9: I like all sorts of energy, and I think if 196 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 9: you'll have the choice, I I do not think we 197 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 9: should be told which energy we can and can't use, 198 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 9: because He's always had an abundance of energy. Let's go 199 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 9: and find whatever we need. Let's shure up the elector 200 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 9: that is supply. Let's go and find more gas, and 201 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 9: let's use our advantages that we got here. 202 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, given all the taxes and all the debate about 203 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 2: taxes that the state government has introduced and land tax, everything, 204 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 2: name everything, is it a bit rich for Jacindra Allen 205 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 2: to say today that Victoria is now open for business 206 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 2: by lifting fairly marginally the payroll tax threshold. 207 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 9: Look, we'll take any win, and that is a win. 208 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 9: That said, this was forecast twelve months ago, So it's 209 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 9: not a new announcement. 210 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 12: It's one that they're just delivering back on twelve months ago. 211 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 7: But that's what I was trying to figure out, Paul. 212 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 7: It's not a new announcement, is it. 213 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 9: No, it was scheduled to come in and so they 214 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 9: still bring it in. They announced twelve months ago, so 215 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 9: this is just a fly on from it. But the 216 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 9: payroll tax free threshold at a million dollars is still 217 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 9: lower than New South Wales. They're at one point two million, 218 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 9: all right, So if we're really going to celebrate this, 219 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 9: let's go and. 220 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 12: Be competitive with New South Wales. Let's not pretend this 221 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 12: is a massive win for business. It's good. We're not saying. 222 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 12: We're not saying it isn't we want to be there. 223 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 7: Not complaints here, but come on, but it is. 224 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 2: But it must rile a lot of businesses, particularly small businesses, 225 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 2: that they're beating this drum when they know full well 226 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 2: there are so many taxes that are going up, so 227 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 2: many taxes that are hitting small business and landowners. It's counterintuitive, 228 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 2: isn't it of the government to do this? Because it 229 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 2: just raised the eye of so many people. 230 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 9: Juice to land tax payroll tax, business tax, stamp duty. 231 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 12: I can go on right. 232 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 9: The point is that the only way forward now is 233 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 9: for real tax reform, and that means that the federal 234 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 9: government and the state governments need to come together and 235 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 9: figure out what we're going to do, because taxing business 236 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 9: at any point makes it harder for that business to survive. 237 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 9: And if business don't survive, then there goes the jobs. 238 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 9: So we're at a point now where we need real 239 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 9: reform that can only happen if state and federal governments 240 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 9: come together. 241 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 7: Do you reckon? They will at that productivity summit? What 242 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 7: is it, August? 243 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 12: I think they have to hiding productivity. 244 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 9: On one hand, I think where well, I know we're 245 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 9: still the worst. 246 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 12: In the oac D, so something has to be done there. 247 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 9: From a taxation perspective, we have to look for growth 248 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 9: now rather than taxing that won't get us out of it. 249 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 9: So what are the real areas that we're going to 250 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 9: get growth. It just so happens that AI, for example, 251 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 9: we'll get both a productivity improvement and if we're smart 252 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 9: enough on this, we'll get ahead of the curve and 253 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 9: we'll actually start developing. 254 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 2: Industries out of it and philosophically. There has to be 255 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 2: a problem with payroll takes anyway, doesn't it because it's 256 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 2: basically a tax on employing people. 257 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 9: Yeah, well, it's long been how it's a tax on jobs. 258 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 9: It is one of the highest revenue earners for the 259 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 9: state government day, so we do know that the state 260 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 9: government needs to earn money so that they can spend 261 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 9: it to develop infrastructure and the like. But we're at 262 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 9: a point now where it's becoming problematic because of the 263 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 9: rates that it's at. 264 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 12: And as I've said before, the only. 265 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 9: Way through this now is for true reform between state 266 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 9: and federal government. 267 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 2: Now, let's talk about the levy that we were talking 268 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 2: about on the bar in Belgrave and the public insurance liability. 269 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 2: The owner there wants governments get involved at underwriting that 270 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 2: sort of insurance. Do you think that could work well? 271 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 9: Again, if the government starts underwriting it, they're going to 272 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 9: have to find revenue from somewhere else and I'll end 273 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 9: up raising attacks to fund that. It is a really 274 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 9: sad situation where we're facing some businesses in some sectors 275 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 9: are facing increased costs. We see it in the hospitality 276 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 9: sector with their charging search ard rates on weekends and 277 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 9: public holidays, and I think what Zuki Lounge are about 278 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 9: to do is a similar thing, you know, to keep 279 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 9: to keep the venues alive that we love, We're going 280 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 9: to have to pay a bit more to get into it. 281 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 9: That means that we either support it. If we don't 282 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 9: support it, they're going to go out of business. It's 283 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 9: just I really feel sorry for this generation coming through that. 284 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 12: Enjoy live music. 285 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 9: They aren't able to do it like we were able to, 286 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 9: where venues were able to make money and keep live 287 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 9: music pumping. 288 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 12: Something has to be done, There's no doubt about that. 289 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 7: Is there something that has to be done? Some government 290 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 7: underwriting of public liability or would relief in other areas 291 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 7: of business help particularly these. 292 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean it's the public liability insurance which is 293 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 9: the one that's been jacked up significantly and we've seen 294 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 9: a number of events go by the wayside because of that. 295 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 9: That's the area that is the government was prepared to 296 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 9: look into and help businesses with that. You know, I'm 297 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 9: sure that would enable more businesses to stay alive, particularly 298 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 9: in that entertainment and hospitality space. 299 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 2: And why has that insurance gone up medically? 300 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 12: I think it's factors all over the world. That's the 301 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 12: problem with it, nickers. 302 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 9: It's another insurance product, insurance looking at where the risks 303 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 9: are and the price that accordingly. 304 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 2: All right, Paul, one one final thing, Paul, you need 305 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 2: to practice this repeat after me, calm the demo. 306 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, good onion. 307 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 12: I knew that was coming back with. 308 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 2: Beautiful and. 309 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 9: Did we swapping the walk in the corridors of Parliament 310 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 9: to walk in the wide open spaces of the MC. 311 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 12: I can't wait. 312 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 5: Were you up at the snow with Nick last weekend 313 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 5: on the. 314 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 7: Logan two weekends ago? 315 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 2: You see these These are the cheap shots, Paul, These 316 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 2: are the cheap jobs. Hey, he thinks he's. 317 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 5: Funny, he's wild. 318 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 7: Sorry, when are you going up to the snow? 319 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 12: We're going to buy this weekend? 320 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 2: Been very relaxing this week. 321 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 5: The change in the back of the range rover. 322 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 2: You too? 323 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 7: Good on you don't forget the cheese board? Who shooter? 324 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 7: And what are you taking that? 325 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 2: And you can just imagine how narchy he gets when 326 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 2: we talk about his lack of teeth. 327 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 5: And the firmous full of red wine that you smuggle. 328 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 7: Into the g We were just asking before if Nick 329 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 7: Dakos got too many free kicks. He's like, what are 330 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 7: you talking about? No, they were all perfectly justified. 331 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, they confused Josh and Nick, and so you think 332 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 5: Nick's getting all of them, but there's a few. 333 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 7: In there for the a f L is looking at it. 334 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 2: Man, you're looking forward to this, Paul, welcome to you. 335 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 9: He's a great footballer, is and well only your pie 336 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 9: is there and they're looking pretty good. 337 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 5: No, they're going very well. 338 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 2: When you become the chief executive of the mighty Melbourne 339 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 2: Football Club, you'll have none of that. 340 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 7: None of this diplomacy. Business Man's not required anymore. 341 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 9: We'll still celebrate the champions of the game. And let's 342 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 9: hope we get a few more. We've got a few there. Now, 343 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 9: let's get a few more in there. Nick, we'll have 344 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 9: a premiership in the not too distant future. 345 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 2: I've always loved you, Paul. 346 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 5: Paul, enjoy the Sunday and thanks for joining us again. 347 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 12: Pleasure. 348 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 5: Thanks. Victorian Chamber of Commerce and Industry Chief Executive. 349 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 7: Outgoing, outgoing, and only a. 350 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 2: Matter of about a year ago I was sitting in 351 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 2: front of him during an Essen game. He was and 352 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 2: a very obnoxious essend and support which ain't anymore. 353 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 5: Don joins us, good morning, Oh. 354 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 15: Good morning. I run a small business. I employee about 355 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 15: half a dozen people. You wouldn't believe how hard it 356 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 15: is just to operate as a small business. The government 357 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 15: gives us knowing there is no INCENTI there is such 358 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 15: a little incentive there were sorry, there's no incentive for 359 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 15: employing people for growing. 360 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 12: For you know. 361 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 15: And funnily enough, within my business of about six people, 362 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 15: of which five of them are working mums, they do 363 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 15: between sort of already in four days a week. That 364 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 15: I bumped into down the base side area, the former 365 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 15: federal minister down there and basically said, they're either on 366 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 15: my payroll or all there back to your payroll. There 367 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 15: is absolutely you know, the red tape. 368 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 7: We've like, what is it that you need on what 369 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 7: would what would help most in terms of either a 370 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 7: state or federal government change. 371 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 15: Well, for a start, it'd be lovely to have things consistent, 372 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 15: work cover work covers different than every single state. Yeah, 373 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 15: every state. Right, you can be I can be easily 374 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 15: breaking the rules and have no idea that I that 375 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 15: I am breaking the rules right because it's a different state, 376 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 15: because the rules are different, Like, there is so much 377 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 15: red tape. It is so hard to make a dollar. 378 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 15: You've got so much process you've got to follow, and 379 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 15: you know, and what do I do? 380 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 12: I employ? 381 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 15: I employ six people. I think the stats are something 382 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 15: like eighty six percent of the country's employed by small business. 383 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 11: And most of them wouldn't be as small as me. 384 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 15: But it's just ridiculous. 385 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 2: Do you think don sorry, do you think don the 386 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 2: changes that they've re announced today about the threshold, will 387 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 2: that affect you at all or not? 388 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 11: So? 389 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 15: I actually haven't heard that. Did you say it's gone? 390 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 12: Because I know it was seven hundred thousand. 391 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 15: What have they done? 392 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 7: It's going to it's going to a million, a million, 393 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 7: going to a million. Yeah, it was like it was 394 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 7: announced was announced last but last year's budget to come 395 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 7: into effect is coming financial. 396 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 15: Yeah, of course, of course that's going to help. But 397 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 15: they just said that it's a disincentive. So what payroll 398 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 15: taxes for the what is it four and a half 399 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 15: percent or something? It'll be something along those lines. Yeah, 400 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 15: I know you sappls as four point eight or something. 401 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 15: But why would I go out and employ more people 402 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 15: just to pay more pay. 403 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 5: You wouldn't it should it should be the other way around. 404 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 5: The more you employ, the less you should pay. You're 405 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 5: doing the country a favor by keeping people in a job, 406 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 5: and so the more you just pay less. Oh, look 407 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 5: he's hired another less payroll tax for him because look 408 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 5: he's building his business. People are getting jobs. It's helping 409 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 5: the economy. It's not ard, isn't. 410 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 7: It a state's bottom line? Though? 411 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 15: What I'm telling you, I've got, like I've mentioned to you, 412 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,959 Speaker 15: I've got three or four people. They probably earned between 413 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 15: forty and sixty thousand dollars a year, and that makes 414 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 15: a big difference in their house household. But what incentive 415 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 15: does the government give me to do that? They give 416 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 15: not absolutely knowing. Why wouldn't they just remove PYG tax 417 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 15: for me? I mean, at this size, what is absolutely 418 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 15: no incentive? 419 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 2: No, I agree, I've always found payroll bizarre. 420 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 5: Ob noxious. I'm not at ridiculous. 421 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 2: I'm not an economist obviously, but I don't get why 422 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 2: you would discourage people to employ, and particularly if you 423 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 2: actually employ people, well, they end up paying tax income tax, 424 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 2: so that money metally to the federal government. But that 425 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 2: goes to government anyway, So it's counterintuitive. 426 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 5: Thanks to on twenty eight to eleven. A couple of 427 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 5: course have kindly way, and one of those is SIEV. 428 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 5: Good morning to you. 429 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 16: Yeah, mister James, look that football chat earlier. I'm slightly 430 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 16: worried about my Swabs by the way. I didn't even 431 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 16: get detached to result against Port Adelaide. But I can't 432 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 16: see us getting a premiership at the end of this 433 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 16: year either. 434 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 7: Oh you've had a few in recent years, though, haven't. 435 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 16: You years ago? I think years back. Yeah, that's a year. 436 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 7: It's still in more recent history than my team, more 437 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 7: than a few other teams around the traps. 438 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 4: But forgot. 439 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 17: I just wanted to come. 440 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 16: Back to that story about about Donald Trump striking those 441 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 16: striking those nuclear sites, or at least that's what he 442 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 16: said on his truth social But I think that was 443 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 16: bound that the Iranians did have it coming due to 444 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 16: their intransigence. Say, oh, you said, we're not going to 445 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 16: give up our our enrichment, We're not going to give 446 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 16: up any of our our nuclear ambitions and whatever it is, 447 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 16: We're not surrendering all. That sort of talk was only 448 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 16: going to mean one. 449 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 18: Thing, wasn't it. 450 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, And no one wants well, no one in the 451 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 2: Western world certainly wants Iran to have any access to 452 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 2: nuclear weapons whatsoever. And you're right, it was bound to happen, 453 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 2: particularly if, as it turns out, mister Trump is one 454 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 2: hundred percent accurate and they've actually got three nuclear sites. 455 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 2: That's that's got to be a good thing. But it 456 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 2: does have ripple effects all around the world. 457 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 12: It does. 458 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 16: I think it's only a matter of time as to 459 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 16: whether we get asked, as in Australia gets asked to 460 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 16: do something, whatever that something is. But given the positions 461 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 16: of our foreign minister in the past, and indeed our 462 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 16: Prime minister in the past, I'm just not sure what 463 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 16: whether we will actually say yes given their past positions. 464 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 2: Well, certainly, mister Trump says now is the time for peace, 465 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: so I think he's obviously hoping, well, we've shown what 466 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 2: we can do and that'll force run to the negotiating table. 467 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 2: If that is the result, that is a good result. 468 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:58,959 Speaker 2: That's that's what everyone wants, and Iran this is you're 469 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 2: looking down, Yeah, and then they get back to the 470 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 2: negotiating table. That's got to be a good thing because 471 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 2: everyone wants the killing and the bombing to stop. And 472 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 2: if this is a way of doing it, well, then 473 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 2: it's a good thing. 474 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 5: Thanks so for the call to Jill. 475 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 3: Good morning, oh, good morning panel regarding a couple of 476 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 3: points Nick made earlier, and Nick, if you can just 477 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 3: not interrupt. 478 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 17: I'd appreciate it. He spoke about Talsy Gabbert. Talsy Gabber 479 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 17: did not backpedal. She clarified on Twitter that her statements 480 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 17: in Congress regarding Iran and nuclear enrichment had been misreported 481 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 17: by the media. And as to the response to these 482 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 17: attacks by Israel and America, Iran, excuse me. 483 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 3: Iran has attacked Americans worldwide eighty three times, and if 484 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 3: you remember, it's proxy. His Boller mass murdered over four 485 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 3: hundred American soldiers about twenty years ago. Now, Israel is 486 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 3: the only country that has never done anything about that. 487 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 3: And there is no sort of sudden new response by 488 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 3: Iran through his Blahamas and Huti. They've been attacking the Wester, 489 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 3: murdering Israelis, and attacking Jews worldwide for decades, So none. 490 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 17: Of this is new. 491 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 3: And as sib said regarding our PM and Foreign Minister 492 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 3: and actually various media talking about bringing you around to 493 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 3: the negotiating table, you are absolutely delusional. They lied to 494 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 3: the IAEA, they lie all the time. Anything they've say 495 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 3: negotiations is going to be a lie. And all they 496 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 3: want to do is murder all the Jews in the world. 497 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 3: And for his gram Now, I don't know what's so 498 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 3: difficult to understand about their stands and this constant getting 499 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,479 Speaker 3: back to the table means absolutely nothing except wasted. 500 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 2: Well, what do you need to talk to mister Trump 501 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 2: about that, because that's what mister Trump wants. He wants 502 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: them back at the table, and that's the whole point. 503 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 2: But you can ring mister Trump or tell him yourself, Jill. 504 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 2: But the point being is I agree with you on 505 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 2: virtually everything you've said. Iran is a horrible regime and 506 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 2: it needs to be pulled into line. But there is 507 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 2: no disputing what has now happened will lead to ripple 508 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 2: effects around the world. But it's also no dispute that 509 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 2: most people, apart from you, want them back at the 510 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 2: negotiating table, including mister Trump. That's what he wants, what 511 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 2: you can that's what he says he wants, Jill. Now 512 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 2: you might know better, but that's what he says he wants, 513 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 2: and that's what the Americans want. 514 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 7: That's what the G seven wants. 515 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 2: That's what and that's what the American government says it wants. 516 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 2: Now you disagree, that's fine, but that's what they want. 517 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 2: They want to stop the killing, and they want to 518 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 2: try and get some sort of inspections in independent monitoring 519 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 2: of whatever Iran is up to. 520 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 3: Well, I wish them luck with that, but of course 521 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 3: there's a way to stop these killings is to defect 522 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 3: Islamica Republic, which, by the way, many many, many Iranians 523 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 3: are rejoicing that Israel has got as far as it 524 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 3: has and hopefully it will continue. 525 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 7: You just want to wipe a religion off the face 526 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 7: of the earth, or just the more extremist element of it. 527 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 3: I didn't say religion, Heidi. I said Islamic Republic, which 528 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,959 Speaker 3: is the current Iranian regime of what is called usually 529 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 3: the mad Mullers. 530 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm sorry you didn't hear this last week, Jill, 531 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 2: but we did talk about the Israeli Prime mister, mister 532 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 2: talking about asking for regime change, and how there is 533 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 2: such a strong feeling within Iran, particularly among young people, 534 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 2: and as we've seen in previous elections, a lot of 535 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 2: social media about protests and stuff like that. We've been 536 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 2: talking about that a lot of people, a lot of people, 537 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 2: well you obviously ignored it, but a lot of people. 538 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 3: I'm just making the point. 539 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 2: A lot of people want them to succeed, but also 540 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 2: sadly at the moment, they don't think they're quite strong 541 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 2: enough to be able to take on the regime. 542 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I did hear your show last week. Actually, Nick, 543 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 3: and you actually made a bit of a mistake. Israel 544 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 3: is not a signatory to the IAEA and does not 545 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 3: have inspections, whereas the RUN does and has lied constantly 546 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 3: and consistently for many years to the IAEA. 547 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 2: Well, I think if I made a mistake about ISRAELI 548 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 2: obviously apologize, but I certainly know that you know Iran, 549 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 2: they've been resisting inspections and resisting for well since. I 550 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 2: remember when I was just showing them that's right, going 551 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 2: taking them wrong. I remember Bill Clinton, when he was president, 552 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 2: was trying to get this done, and of course that's 553 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 2: what thirty years ago. 554 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 5: Now, Thanks Jill. To Sean, good morning, Good morning. 555 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 10: I've just been listening with interest to your guest, and 556 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 10: I believe, if I'm wrong, I believe he said some 557 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 10: statements about the face that he knows what. 558 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 2: Mister cumpbox I do well, Nick McCallum, No, but hang 559 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 2: on shore before you verbalize me. I said that this 560 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 2: is what mister Trump says he wants, and the American 561 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 2: government says they want them back at the negotiating table. 562 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 2: That's what he says. And Jill and Jill the caller. 563 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,959 Speaker 2: Jill the caller said she knows better than that, and 564 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 2: that's fine. If she knows better than that, that's fine. 565 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 7: Said there's no point to it all. 566 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, she also said she knows. 567 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 10: But what I'm saying, I won't verbalize you, but you 568 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 10: made a statement that Trump wants them back at the negotiating. 569 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 2: He says, he says he wants them. 570 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 10: Back at Okay, if you want to clarify and make 571 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 10: it very clear to that I did. 572 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 2: I did say that, and that's what I'm sorry I'll 573 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 2: make I'll say it again. He said that, Now. 574 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 7: At what point is it that you wanted to make 575 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 7: sure that. 576 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 10: He knows better making the point that people keep coming 577 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 10: out saying that they everybody. A lot of people are 578 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 10: saying they know what Trump wants, they know what he says. 579 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 10: Let's face it, it doesn't matter what he says. We 580 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 10: will never know what. 581 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 7: Yes, it's he's trying to make yes. Yeah, and that's fine, 582 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 7: but he's not attacking you. Sean is making a valid 583 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 7: point that no one, no one actually knows. I'm sure 584 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 7: he will, Sean, do you reckon? Even Trump knows what 585 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 7: he wants most days. 586 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 10: Sure, absolutely, he knows what he's doing. And the fact 587 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 10: that he goes, look, i'll give him two weeks. Yeah, Hello, 588 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 10: that's the spoof, isn't that I'll give you two weeks. 589 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,959 Speaker 10: Let your guards down, and I'll get you when you're 590 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 10: least expect it. You know, he's I don't necessarily agree 591 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 10: with what he does or how he does with or 592 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 10: that he's even at the present, but he clearly knows 593 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 10: what he's doing and he's not left unto us. 594 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 5: Thanks Sean for the call. 595 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 7: Well that's a good thing. If you can't believe a 596 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 7: single thing he says in. 597 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 2: Principle, no, but I but I also believe that. You know, 598 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 2: I don't think the Iranians, I mean, they are many things, 599 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 2: but I don't think that that that dumb if they 600 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 2: When mister Trump was saying it's going to be two weeks. 601 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 2: I'm sure they were probably thinking, oh we better betten 602 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 2: down the hatches, this is coming soon. Thanks for the course, 603 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 2: smart enough to realize that it's. 604 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 5: A quarter to two eleven. And to John, good morning. 605 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 11: Oh good good one, and d Jay and to the 606 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 11: team mister Nick, just one point. It's not mister Trump. 607 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 11: It is President Trump. 608 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 2: And well I did President You've got. 609 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 11: To respect the position better. 610 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 2: Hang on, John, I did say President Trump a couple 611 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 2: of times. I said, mister Trump. It was clearly clearly 612 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 2: not intended to be offensive. 613 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 11: Well you misspoke, and fair enough, and we can we 614 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 11: can go past. 615 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 2: That's too. 616 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 11: Well. I'm a very very sweet person. Just for me, 617 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 11: darling ex time. But the second point, my dear sir, 618 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 11: is look if he go from five percent in Richmond, 619 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 11: in Iran for nuclear purposes, when it comes to energy, 620 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 11: you go to sixty percent. Come on, we are definitely 621 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 11: dealing with somebody that's trying to play the cards. We're 622 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 11: pushing the levels. And this is why, especially like we're 623 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 11: in Australia, America's America. We're here in Australia, we're very 624 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 11: very far away as in Israeli and I am not 625 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 11: one I'm an Ossie Chap. I would be a little 626 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,479 Speaker 11: bit concerned, and I'll just leave it up to the 627 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 11: rest of you to discuss. 628 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 2: Well, you're stating exactly what we're saying in different terms, 629 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 2: but exactly I mean, of course, is. 630 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 11: Why would you do? Nick? What would you do? Nick? 631 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 11: If you were in the Israeli shoes? 632 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 2: Well, John, you would have. I'm sorry you missed all 633 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 2: of this, but we have. I have said all last 634 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 2: week and all this week. No one wants Israeli, the 635 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 2: Iranians rather to have any access to nuclear weapons. I'm 636 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 2: sorry you missed me saying that. I'll say it again, 637 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 2: no one wants them. You do well? I well, I 638 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 2: mean that's a really difficult question because I actually think 639 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 2: what the Americans have done now, if it is as reported, 640 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 2: targeting three nuclear areas and getting them, if that says 641 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 2: a reporter, if that has happened, hopefully that would drag 642 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 2: and mister Trump says, he says he wants peace now, 643 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,959 Speaker 2: Trump and sorry, President John, what's your solution? 644 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 7: You've got a you want to an answer out a Nick? 645 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 7: Did you have a did you have an idea in mind? 646 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 7: A solution? 647 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 11: Well, I'm just appealing to three very highly intellectual people. 648 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 7: Sorry, trying to set us up for something. I'm just 649 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 7: wondering if you had it. I mean, because it's a 650 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 7: it's a complicated there's no easy answer answer. Certainly, don't 651 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 7: pretend to happen. 652 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 2: If I understand, I actually I actually respect what you 653 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 2: just said. 654 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 11: I don't know. 655 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 2: Well, I've said it too, and you don't respect me 656 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 2: for saying that. I understand that. But what I'm saying is, John, 657 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 2: I understand why the Israelis have done what they've done. 658 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely understand it. If it ends up curtailing the Iranians 659 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 2: and either bring them to the table or getting them 660 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 2: to abandon their nuclear or even leading to regime change, 661 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 2: if that's a big if it's been a good. 662 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 11: Thing, okay, well let's carry on. 663 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 2: Well I've been saying that for the last two weeks, 664 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 2: and you clearly happened. You've ignored it. 665 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 7: Do you reckon what the US has done? What President 666 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 7: Trump has done is a good thing. It is the 667 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 7: right call. 668 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 11: What has he done. He's just backing Israel as a country, 669 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 11: so not to chuse I'm talking as a country. He 670 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 11: is backing them, but he's not going in that's a 671 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 11: very very different thing, very different thing. 672 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 2: Well, John, in glorious agreement, in glorious agreement, and you 673 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 2: can't admit it. I think that's yes, you can't admit it. 674 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 2: You don't have the stomach to admit it. 675 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 11: What can't I admit that you that you can't admit 676 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 11: that you agree with me? What make your point again? 677 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 11: What can't I admits. 678 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 2: That we that we agree? You are asked, can you 679 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 2: I said. 680 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: What we agree with? 681 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 2: I just say, well, agree, Sorry, I'll repeat what I said. 682 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 2: If it is has reported that the. 683 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 11: Americans reported by whom. 684 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 2: The Americans at the moment that Donald Trump says that 685 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 2: they have President President Trump. God, now I got it in. 686 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 2: I think President Trump said on true social they've taken out, well, 687 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 2: they've they're they're badly damaged at least three nuclear facilities. 688 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 2: If that turns out to be right, and I you know, 689 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 2: well we'll find out, then that's a good thing. I 690 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 2: said that, and I asked you whether you agreed with that, 691 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 2: and you couldn't have the stomach to say I were 692 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 2: in agreement. You said, so. 693 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 11: What's next? 694 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:36,280 Speaker 2: No, you said, hmm, Or you're me for being inaccurate. 695 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 2: Now I'm having a gut you for being you. You 696 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,439 Speaker 2: couldn't say yes, I agree with you God, and bring 697 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 2: yourself to do it. Good on, you. 698 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 5: Have to move on. Five to five, five to eleven, 699 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 5: And to Steve, good morning, Yes, good. 700 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 19: Morning, thanks for taking my call. I just wanted to 701 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 19: make the point that as long as these bombs have 702 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 19: been successful, and perhaps there's another round, essentially a lot 703 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 19: of the debate is over. There may be some ongoing consequences, 704 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 19: but it's been one and done, and I would like 705 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 19: to make the point that Israel, now for the third 706 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 19: time in fifty years, has saved the world from the 707 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 19: potential of atomic danger, first with Iraq, then Syria, and 708 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 19: now this probably being the most important of all. So 709 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 19: I think there should be congratulations to Israel and for 710 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,720 Speaker 19: President Trump of America of joining in doing what needed 711 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 19: to be done. And I think that apart from the noise, 712 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 19: in the years ahead, the world will be a much 713 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:45,280 Speaker 19: safer place. 714 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 2: Well, I hope you're right now. 715 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, let's hope things Chross, Yeah, thanks Dave, Chris. 716 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 5: Good morning. 717 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,800 Speaker 1: Funny exactly on my point what the other guy said. 718 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: That's what they said when they went into Iraq to 719 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: be a better sales better place after we destroyed the 720 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: Iraq because Iraq has weapons of mass destruction. It's exactly 721 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:11,280 Speaker 1: the same thing happening now, Dane, which in my opinion 722 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 1: it's a mcmaniac. 723 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,760 Speaker 2: But Chris, I think that the over the difference between 724 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 2: Iraq and Iran is that over a run, it's what 725 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 2: been about thirty years, the evidence has accumulated over a 726 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 2: very long time, and the UN has been very heavily 727 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 2: involved in it. So I don't think there's any doubt 728 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,439 Speaker 2: that there is that you know that what is going 729 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 2: on in Iran to a degree, except as I mentioned, 730 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 2: they've went very good at it, which is good. 731 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 5: See, thank you for the call. There goes the first hour, 732 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 5: stick around, a bit to talk about, including Slater and 733 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 5: Wack in the next hour, and a new speed hump 734 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 5: has arrived, the biggest one you Oh it's huge. Hey 735 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 5: fast Eddie, thanks for all your help this morning on 736 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 5: behalf of Nick and myself and HAIDI. When did you 737 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 5: first get the news of Iran in the newsroom, because 738 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,720 Speaker 5: you've got your finger on it. 739 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,839 Speaker 2: Gee, yeah, I think it's going to be a top 740 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 2: story for a long while. 741 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 5: Yeah. 742 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 7: Then when did you first get the news at Nick 743 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,879 Speaker 7: Daykos had maybe done gotten too many freeze last night? 744 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 5: And which is and which is the biggest story Iran 745 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:22,720 Speaker 5: or Nick Daykoss? 746 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, well no, I didn't watch any of it, 747 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 7: so I doubt Well. 748 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,760 Speaker 5: You know we haven't mentioned that. How are you feeling? 749 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 7: You're very very very good, think you? Yeah, it was 750 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 7: a great week, happy days. Well, I mean it could 751 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 7: have been a bit more comfortable margin, given how comfortable 752 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 7: margin had been earlier in the game. But you know, 753 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,919 Speaker 7: win's a win, will take it one twenty one points. 754 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 5: I should have seen it coming because you did very 755 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 5: well out West against Freeman. It looked to be a 756 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 5: bit of a force at the men. 757 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 7: I tipped us in our family competition. Just back to 758 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 7: the Nick Daykos point, how big a cheat was he? 759 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 7: Or I mean, how many freebies did he get? 760 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,879 Speaker 5: He was held back and he was neat in the 761 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 5: fire and pinchy, pinchy. 762 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 2: Eddie, you are meant to be an independent expert. 763 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 5: And Nick woke up. I've heard a rumor and that 764 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,359 Speaker 5: Tagger number two was in bed with him. 765 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 2: Still, that's right there, swing your ends. I was fortunate 766 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 2: enough to be out the front of the mcg box 767 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 2: popping Carlton fans. They lift. Yeah, well, just about halfway 768 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 2: through the last quarter there was a sea of dark 769 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 2: blue coming out of the MCG not happy, No, it 770 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,320 Speaker 2: was really yeah. Once they get wound up, they couldn't 771 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 2: help themselves. 772 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 5: Good on your fast, Eddie, Thanks for this morning. We'll 773 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 5: talk again soon. That's Eddie. I'll keep figuring his surname. 774 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 5: I just know him as Fast Summerfield. That's right, Eddie, 775 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 5: don't say Eddie Murphy. If he was related to you, 776 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 5: would be Eddie Murphy, wouldn't he. 777 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 7: I suppose there was some other characteristic another Eddie Murphy 778 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 7: that springs to mind, and Eddie Summerfield looks nothing like that. 779 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 5: Now, as you would have heard us discussing in the 780 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,720 Speaker 5: last hour, the United States has bombed Iran. President Donald 781 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 5: Trump has announced the bombing of three nuclear sites over 782 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 5: in Iran. Joining US now is Professor Aiden Warren, us 783 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 5: foreign policy expert from ri MIT. This morning's attacks on 784 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 5: Iran a surprise to you, professor, Good morning. 785 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 12: Good morning. 786 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 4: Look, yes, and though I mean obviously we've seen over 787 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 4: the last couple of days of mobilization or the last 788 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 4: twenty four hours, B two bombers you're heading in that direction, 789 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:33,320 Speaker 4: and Trump, of course have given a two week ultimatum 790 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,399 Speaker 4: or two week breeding space for want of a better word, 791 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 4: for better set of words than it is for Iran 792 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 4: and to accept some sort of deal and of course 793 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 4: basically surrender. 794 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 12: And then of course he's gone ahead. 795 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 4: And proceeded to bomb those and target those nuclear facilities 796 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 4: in bordoh Nu, Tarans and is Fahan overnight and last 797 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 4: thirty five forty minutes. 798 00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 11: To be specific. 799 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 12: So, look, it doesn't surprise me. In a lot of ways. 800 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:02,879 Speaker 12: It's been moving in that. 801 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 4: Direction, the language is moving in that direction. I think, naw, 802 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 4: who's got Trump around his finger and wrapped around his finger? 803 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,479 Speaker 4: And so it's not a surprise, it's just confronting given 804 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,840 Speaker 4: the fact that it actually has taken place. 805 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 2: Will it Will it affect Iran to the extent that 806 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 2: what mister, what President Trump and what the government wants 807 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 2: there is and so many other people in the world 808 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 2: want is around back at the negotiating table and more 809 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 2: control over whatever program they have. Do you think it 810 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,319 Speaker 2: will ultimately have that effect getting them back to the 811 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 2: negotiating table? 812 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 12: Look, I mean it's really hard to say. 813 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 4: I mean, obviously this is what it's about. 814 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 11: This is high risk. 815 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 4: I mean that you know, previous presidents have thought about this, 816 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 4: thought about this intervention before, and it resisted. Trump's of 817 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 4: course gone ahead, proceeded with the intervention, gone hard on 818 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 4: those with those bunker busters, and basically he's wanting to 819 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,800 Speaker 4: lean and around. Hope he wants it to stop now. 820 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 4: My view is I don't think it will stop now. 821 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 4: Even though Iran is kind of somewhat weakened and has 822 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 4: been weakened over the last year, year and a half 823 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 4: and it's proxies and so forth, I still think that 824 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 4: there will be a response. And this is what everyone 825 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 4: anyone who has looked at international affairs in the last 826 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,799 Speaker 4: ten or fifteen years in terms of Iran, like I have, 827 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 4: this has been probably the day that I've viewed the 828 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 4: most and I just. 829 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 12: Don't know where it's going. I hope it does lean 830 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,760 Speaker 12: to it leading to an agreement. I don't think it will. 831 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,400 Speaker 2: So when you say a response, do you think it 832 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 2: would lead or could lead to a response directly against 833 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,440 Speaker 2: America or more response against Israel. 834 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 4: Well, Tehran released a response, an official statement. They haven't 835 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 4: released one yet, but they've released one and a couple 836 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 4: of year over the last few days saying that they would. Indeed, 837 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 4: you know there's military involvement from the United States. You know, 838 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,720 Speaker 4: this is an illegal intervention. You can't just invade countries 839 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,880 Speaker 4: just at will because you have a hunch that something's 840 00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,360 Speaker 4: going on or there's something developing, and basically this is 841 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,840 Speaker 4: really what everyone's fitted. I think there will be hooty 842 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 4: rebels responding there so that they'll get into the fray. 843 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 4: There could be Syria, Iraq could come in the equation. 844 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,839 Speaker 4: I'm not sure what China and of course Russia are 845 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 4: going to do, but they kind of more leading to 846 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 4: the Iranian state in Iran is going to respond. I 847 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 4: think in some shape or form. Will they win an 848 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 4: escalating conflict or so for I don't think so. You know, 849 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 4: there's no doubt the US and Israel have the cards 850 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,920 Speaker 4: and the military technology. But it'll just be ugly and 851 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 4: it'll be catastrophic. I think potentially, is there. 852 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 7: Any chance it goes another way where it's one and 853 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 7: done in terms of one big attack like this and 854 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,799 Speaker 7: then where it sorts things out, Well, that's. 855 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,879 Speaker 4: There is that chance, and that's what Trump's played. Play 856 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 4: the game or play taking the risks. 857 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 12: He's waited up. He thinks that this will. 858 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 4: Be the the blow, the significant blow. It'll take out 859 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 4: both sites and hopefully they can lean on in Iran 860 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 4: and Iran or have the faun at the feet of 861 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:02,760 Speaker 4: the United States and Israel. 862 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 11: Will they do that? 863 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 12: I'm not really quite convinced, but you. 864 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 4: Know, in the cold, highlighted day, I hope it does 865 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,879 Speaker 4: stop now, I really do, because I just, you know. 866 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,320 Speaker 12: It's the last thing we need with Ukraine and Russia. 867 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,759 Speaker 4: Of course, ucats in the question in questions there are 868 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,359 Speaker 4: being questioned, and of course you know China and Indover City. 869 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 12: There's a whole bunch of things going on as we know. 870 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 2: And that then leads to the question Australia being a 871 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,239 Speaker 2: very strong US ally, will there be a pressure on 872 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 2: Australia to get involved in some way, shape or form, 873 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 2: whether it be with equipment or naval vessels in the 874 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,879 Speaker 2: area or something like that. 875 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:43,240 Speaker 12: Yeah, there will be pressure. 876 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,840 Speaker 4: There will be pressure if this does turn into a 877 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,799 Speaker 4: fully fledged conflict where there is a proper intervention where 878 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 4: the United States and it's how I send boots on deck, 879 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 4: you know, when it gets to the boots on deck intervention, 880 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,879 Speaker 4: potential regime change and so forth, and then a coinciding war, 881 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 4: well then we will will will be pressured to send 882 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:04,759 Speaker 4: some sort of. 883 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:09,279 Speaker 12: Hardware or or you know, vessels or so forth. 884 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,920 Speaker 4: There so there'll be some form of deployment, even though 885 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,320 Speaker 4: I know our Prime Minister is not a big proponent 886 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:16,160 Speaker 4: of what you know. 887 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 12: Of course, the. 888 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 4: Israeli state has been doing, particularly in Gaza, and of 889 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 4: course this conflict with Iran. 890 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 2: And finally, what do we know about these three sites 891 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:24,920 Speaker 2: that they've hit. 892 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 4: Well, obviously the one, the main one is photo Natans 893 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 4: of course was one of the original ones in the 894 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 4: early two thousands when it was discovered that Iran had 895 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 4: a nuclear program. Remember Iran never had a nuclear weapon. 896 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 4: They've been riching, they argue for peace or purposes. That's 897 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 4: always been debated, whether it be Bush across to Obama 898 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 4: and so forth. But the photoh one was the one 899 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:54,920 Speaker 4: that really had was deeply underground, has a lot of 900 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:59,239 Speaker 4: a significant nuclear capabilities and facilities and enrichment in that 901 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 4: particular bunker, deeply under you know, you know, hard terrain, 902 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:06,719 Speaker 4: and of course that was the one that they. 903 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 12: That of course Israel of course didn't have the capacity 904 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:10,600 Speaker 12: to get but the. 905 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:14,240 Speaker 4: United States had the capacity with its you know, obviously 906 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 4: significant bunker bunker buster bombs which which of course you know, 907 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 4: the massive ordinance penetrators as they're called bunker busters, and 908 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,440 Speaker 4: only B two bombers can can carry those, and that 909 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 4: was really the main goal is to get inside that side. 910 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 12: We don't know if they've knocked over Fordo. Trump is 911 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:34,719 Speaker 12: claiming that. 912 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,320 Speaker 4: They've got inside and it's a successful military operation. He 913 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 4: would say that anyway. But we you know, in the 914 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,920 Speaker 4: next twenty four hours, we'll get a good understanding to 915 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,359 Speaker 4: what extent they probably knocked out those sites or as 916 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 4: to whether they got inside those sites, and then there's 917 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 4: going to be further bombing. 918 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, I wonder how big a full payload is hick Fo. 919 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean, as I understand, the full payload 920 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,360 Speaker 4: of the bombs that was dropped would come as to 921 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 4: those bunker buses potentially. 922 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,799 Speaker 12: But again, you know, that's that we're going to. 923 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 11: Get the details. 924 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,200 Speaker 4: Trump's going to give a press conference at ten pm 925 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 4: US time, So. 926 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 12: Which was I think that would be Eastern times and 927 00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 12: not that far away. 928 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:16,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think. 929 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 11: It's about midday our time, I think, yeah, yeah, So look, 930 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:21,280 Speaker 11: that will give a bit more insight. 931 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:22,799 Speaker 12: But of course, you know, you know Trump, I mean, 932 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 12: obviously it's going to be an unbridered success. 933 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 7: And he's you know, whichever way. 934 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 5: Right, you know this is, this is. 935 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,640 Speaker 12: Leading to world peace. He will say, you know, no doubt, 936 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 12: no doubt, he'll say this with a straight face. 937 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,439 Speaker 7: I'm lasting, but yeah, he'll stay it with a straight face. 938 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,480 Speaker 12: Oh yeah, no doubt, no doubt. 939 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 4: I mean, he needs a foreign policy victory, except foreign 940 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,759 Speaker 4: politic success. And because he hasn't you know, been able 941 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 4: to put one together yet, He's been trying, so I 942 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,520 Speaker 4: think that this will you know, he'll be claiming this 943 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 4: is a big. 944 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,400 Speaker 2: Success, but there's a lot to play itself out and 945 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,800 Speaker 2: with will there be repercussions amongst his base, because he 946 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,200 Speaker 2: his base and he was saying before the election that 947 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 2: he wants at out of wars. 948 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,759 Speaker 12: Yeah, that's a really good question. 949 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,360 Speaker 4: I mean, he said he always talks about never getting 950 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,400 Speaker 4: the United States in forever war was. He was always 951 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 4: critical of interventions. He was always critical of the United States, 952 00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 4: you know, declaring when they were going to go on mission. 953 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,520 Speaker 4: So that's one thing he stuck with. This is a 954 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,800 Speaker 4: surprise mission he was always critical of Bush and Obama 955 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,440 Speaker 4: when they were declaring what they were going to do. 956 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 12: But look, I think in terms of, you know, moving forward, 957 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,840 Speaker 12: I think he's he's base off following no matter what. 958 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 12: But in terms of the political fallout, we're already. 959 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 4: See big disparities between various Republicans in their views of this, 960 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,160 Speaker 4: because everyone in the United States is war weary, war weary. 961 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 4: We've just come out of Afghanistan, Iraq, I mean, Syria, 962 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,239 Speaker 4: and an Isis. I mean, the twenty first century has 963 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,920 Speaker 4: just been marked with one conflict after another, and hopefully 964 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:57,400 Speaker 4: this doesn't turn into another elongated intervention where there's boots 965 00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:57,799 Speaker 4: on deck. 966 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,480 Speaker 5: From an actual phys School strategy of the bombings, where 967 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,399 Speaker 5: are the planes based, do you think? 968 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 4: Well, look, I'm not one hundred percent sure, but I 969 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,320 Speaker 4: know that they're in there were deployed in partly in 970 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 4: Guamen and of course partly, of course, in relation to 971 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 4: several several undisclosed sites in the Middle East or near 972 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,440 Speaker 4: the Middle East. But of course, you know, once I 973 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 4: heard that the B two bombers were being deployed, I 974 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,400 Speaker 4: mean I knew without whoever one knew about four, I 975 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,400 Speaker 4: knew that this attack was this attack was imminent, and 976 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 4: I and I think I didn't think we had the 977 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,279 Speaker 4: b Einstein. 978 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,400 Speaker 12: To work out that was going to happen within that 979 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,000 Speaker 12: two week. That two week span. 980 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 2: Okay, so as soon as he said they've got two weeks, 981 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 2: you knew that here it comes just for. 982 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:53,240 Speaker 4: The mobilization of the mobilization of tankers and military hardware 983 00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,960 Speaker 4: that the United States was deploying over there, and other 984 00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:00,360 Speaker 4: other developments in the in the hardware and deployments stage, 985 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,840 Speaker 4: and then once the B two bombers were being deployed 986 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,280 Speaker 4: in that direction, for me, it was just imminent. 987 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 12: I think the two week the two week was a 988 00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 12: mask of deception. 989 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:10,760 Speaker 11: Look, his strategy is pretty obvious. 990 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 4: He said he was never going to announce when they 991 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,520 Speaker 4: were undertaking an attack. As I said, he was very 992 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,960 Speaker 4: critical of Obama and Bush and so forth. They were 993 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 4: very open about these sort of these being transparent in 994 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,840 Speaker 4: their strategy. And so I just from my point of 995 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,000 Speaker 4: view in my lounge room in Melbourne, I think I 996 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,800 Speaker 4: didn't think it was hard to surmise that the B 997 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,680 Speaker 4: two bomber was going to be used before that two 998 00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:34,240 Speaker 4: week spam. 999 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:38,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, hey, professor, thanks for joining us this 1000 00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:42,600 Speaker 5: morning on a Sunday morning, anytime, Professor Aiden Warren, US 1001 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 5: foreign policy expert from RMIT on three w twenty past eleven. 1002 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:55,799 Speaker 5: Come on, hardy a longer slather and wait, because we've 1003 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,120 Speaker 5: got a bit to get through and I want to 1004 00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:01,719 Speaker 5: start today because there is a ass nose to tail 1005 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:03,279 Speaker 5: eruption waiting. 1006 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:08,880 Speaker 7: To I was under carriage ripping out behemoths. 1007 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:14,680 Speaker 5: This is a snout to trout bang blockbuster all eruption 1008 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,440 Speaker 5: of magnitudal. 1009 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,040 Speaker 2: Mount Everest on Colint, Yes it is. 1010 00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,000 Speaker 5: I'll tell you what's happened. The length of Colin Street 1011 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,040 Speaker 5: now coming. It's only one way. It's coming from the 1012 00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:30,960 Speaker 5: Parliament House end down to the Docklands end right right 1013 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,719 Speaker 5: now across Heady, going past the theater, going past the 1014 00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:38,479 Speaker 5: Regent Theater, Darling on the left, and past the Mega 1015 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,920 Speaker 5: watch shop, then that little bar there, then the basically the. 1016 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,440 Speaker 7: Corner of Region and then and the town halls on 1017 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:44,839 Speaker 7: your right. 1018 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,960 Speaker 5: What about what's wrong with you? Amiga watch shop next 1019 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,360 Speaker 5: to the Region, I am the ball. I am the 1020 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,000 Speaker 5: right anyway, So you cross Swanston Walls A. 1021 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,760 Speaker 7: New train station about to open it anyway. 1022 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 2: Sorry, it's hard enough as it is. We've only got 1023 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:03,520 Speaker 2: thirty five minutes street head. Yeah that way. 1024 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,840 Speaker 5: Now there's a tram stop. It's one of those mega 1025 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:12,480 Speaker 5: massive mega stops. Now there is a speed hump, unlike 1026 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,640 Speaker 5: any other speed hump. I have speed humped across where. 1027 00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,719 Speaker 5: It's about twenty meters from the corner where the cool 1028 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:21,000 Speaker 5: used to be a shop for. 1029 00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:25,920 Speaker 7: History shop along there? Is it near there? 1030 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 4: Oh? 1031 00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:26,480 Speaker 5: Is there? 1032 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:26,799 Speaker 2: Yes? 1033 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:30,839 Speaker 5: Okay? This s yeah just there. Now this speed hump 1034 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:35,359 Speaker 5: goes from the pavement across to the Mega Trains tram 1035 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:39,000 Speaker 5: stop and it is of Mount Everest proportions. I had 1036 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,160 Speaker 5: to pull over this morning and acclimatize a base camp 1037 00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,719 Speaker 5: before the final climb up to the top of the 1038 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:46,359 Speaker 5: speed up. 1039 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,520 Speaker 7: I don't reckon I've ever been along the speed bump. 1040 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:50,359 Speaker 7: Where did it come from? 1041 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:51,399 Speaker 5: It comes from? 1042 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,160 Speaker 2: I don't think so. You do that every week, don't you? 1043 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:54,400 Speaker 10: So? 1044 00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:58,120 Speaker 5: It wasn't there last week? Wasn't there the night with 1045 00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:03,120 Speaker 5: freezing temperatures on the motor bike yesterday? Just about? And 1046 00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,720 Speaker 5: it's just there are scrapes on the top of Already 1047 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,800 Speaker 5: this is massive on a very narrow one lane. This 1048 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:14,000 Speaker 5: is yet another attempt to keep cars out of the city. 1049 00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,440 Speaker 2: So let's let's put it to people. I mean, has 1050 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:21,480 Speaker 2: anyone else noticed anyone as anyone else noticed? And does 1051 00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:25,319 Speaker 2: anyone know why they've gone to such enormous levels at that. 1052 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,880 Speaker 5: And did you get shortness of breath from going at 1053 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:29,920 Speaker 5: sea level. 1054 00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,640 Speaker 2: The oxygen mask fall from the top. 1055 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,120 Speaker 7: I was in that part of the world on Thursday 1056 00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,160 Speaker 7: night because that's where the Liberal Administrative Committee was meeting, 1057 00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:40,680 Speaker 7: just a little bit down the road from there, and 1058 00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,640 Speaker 7: there was just on the side of the road. I 1059 00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,680 Speaker 7: would have only been a few meters from this speedup. 1060 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,840 Speaker 7: I can't I can't remember if I saw it. I 1061 00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 7: thought I walked across the road there and then it 1062 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,359 Speaker 7: was flat still, but there was a whole area sort 1063 00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 7: of roped off for road crew equipment that was in it. 1064 00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 7: Putting it in there just then if. 1065 00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,120 Speaker 5: They put this one in there, this is not going 1066 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:05,880 Speaker 5: to be the end of it. I have a feeling 1067 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:07,799 Speaker 5: that's not just going to be a one off. We'll 1068 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,399 Speaker 5: have ever rests all over the job. 1069 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:13,279 Speaker 2: But it'd be interesting to see why specifically, unless they've 1070 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,839 Speaker 2: had speeding issues with people, you know, as people trying 1071 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:18,920 Speaker 2: to be in that area, I don't think. But in 1072 00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,080 Speaker 2: terms of people leaving that tram stop and you know, 1073 00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,759 Speaker 2: tried walking across the road and cars still going through, 1074 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,080 Speaker 2: unless that's been an issue. 1075 00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,440 Speaker 7: Well, is there is there any line markings across the 1076 00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,560 Speaker 7: top for it to be come a pedestrian crossing. 1077 00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,719 Speaker 5: I think there are line markings there, but. 1078 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,240 Speaker 7: To mark that there's a speed but pedestrian crossing like lines. 1079 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,000 Speaker 5: No, I don't think there are pedestrian lines there, but 1080 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,120 Speaker 5: there are scrapes on the top. Already forget irun, we're 1081 00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,440 Speaker 5: getting calls already. John, Good morning. 1082 00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:48,200 Speaker 13: Everyone, How are we good? 1083 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:48,560 Speaker 2: Thanks? 1084 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,120 Speaker 10: I have caught on it on Friday. 1085 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:52,160 Speaker 1: I didn't know it was there. 1086 00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:56,360 Speaker 10: It was dark, there was no sign, no white strips 1087 00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,799 Speaker 10: on top of it. And I know it's nearly landed 1088 00:54:58,840 --> 00:54:59,719 Speaker 10: on top of the tram stop. 1089 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:04,040 Speaker 7: No like road conditions changed ahead, nothing, no little signs. 1090 00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,400 Speaker 10: I didn't see anything. It's just so high. It's ridiculous. 1091 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,520 Speaker 2: So were you in your car or a motorcycle car? 1092 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:11,839 Speaker 10: Yeah? 1093 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:15,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, So when what about the hit the guts of 1094 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:16,839 Speaker 2: the car you hit. 1095 00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:17,319 Speaker 10: The bottom here? 1096 00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:18,080 Speaker 11: Because I didn't know. 1097 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:19,120 Speaker 10: I wasn't going fast. 1098 00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,480 Speaker 20: But even if you're not going fast, it's ridiculous. 1099 00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:28,040 Speaker 5: It's ridiculous. It's massive. I've never seen anything like it either. 1100 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,239 Speaker 2: It'd be really interesting to see why. 1101 00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:31,480 Speaker 11: Why. 1102 00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,319 Speaker 7: Well, I assume it must be part of slowing things 1103 00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,600 Speaker 7: down to twenty or thirty. You just crawl over the 1104 00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:40,000 Speaker 7: top of Is it for pedestrians to get you safely 1105 00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,680 Speaker 7: across from, say so that that tram stop. You come 1106 00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,279 Speaker 7: down a bit of a slope and you'd go left 1107 00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,000 Speaker 7: to get across from the tram stop across to the footpath. 1108 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:48,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, it makes it easier. 1109 00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:49,160 Speaker 2: It's up. 1110 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's at tram stop level. 1111 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,960 Speaker 7: Tram stop level, stop level stops. 1112 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,399 Speaker 5: I'm not kidding. It's on a par with tram stop. 1113 00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,480 Speaker 5: It is the height of the tram stop level of 1114 00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:04,359 Speaker 5: the station, the transtop station. Yeah. 1115 00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,400 Speaker 2: But if that is true, but it also if it 1116 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:09,719 Speaker 2: is meant to be a pedestrian crossing, surely it's got 1117 00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:10,759 Speaker 2: to have the stripes on it. 1118 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:15,680 Speaker 5: John to Stephen, good morning, Yeah, Darren, I saw I 1119 00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,480 Speaker 5: found it on Wednesday. 1120 00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,239 Speaker 15: I tell you, if it's pedestrians posessions, if they fall 1121 00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,520 Speaker 15: off it, they're going to hurt They're going. 1122 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:23,200 Speaker 2: To break your legs. 1123 00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,640 Speaker 15: My vehicle is not lowered at all. It's a standard 1124 00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,520 Speaker 15: vehicle and I literally had to come to a stop. 1125 00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:29,920 Speaker 11: No. 1126 00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,080 Speaker 15: Sorry, the first time I went over it, it's scrape, 1127 00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:33,240 Speaker 15: scrape my front spoiler. 1128 00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:33,560 Speaker 12: Yeah. 1129 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,000 Speaker 11: So the next day I go down. 1130 00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,239 Speaker 15: I literally had to creep all the way up and 1131 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,960 Speaker 15: all the way down to avoid it bottoming out. It 1132 00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:45,200 Speaker 15: is absolutely ridiculous. It's black Bitcherman, unmarked. Yep, it is 1133 00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,600 Speaker 15: designed to it. It's anti carr. 1134 00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,520 Speaker 7: Did you reckon? That's what it is. It's it's not propriateestrian. 1135 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:53,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1136 00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,480 Speaker 7: Is it a Nick Grease controlled road or the Bear 1137 00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,520 Speaker 7: State Road Colin Street wonder? 1138 00:56:58,760 --> 00:56:59,239 Speaker 5: I'm not sure? 1139 00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,400 Speaker 7: But coming there responsible for it? I mean who is 1140 00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:02,239 Speaker 7: it a council road? 1141 00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,080 Speaker 2: Is it a state Do you would imagine the council 1142 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,000 Speaker 2: that have to have some say in it? It's right, 1143 00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:08,319 Speaker 2: I mean it literally right out the front. 1144 00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,480 Speaker 7: It must be a council road. Well, what are you doing, 1145 00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:11,560 Speaker 7: Melbourne City. 1146 00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,600 Speaker 2: We'll put in a call to Nick Reese's people and 1147 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,360 Speaker 2: I'm sure they'll tell us straight away if he's responsible 1148 00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:16,800 Speaker 2: or if he's not. 1149 00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,360 Speaker 7: I saw it at the tram company. Who's done it? 1150 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:19,640 Speaker 11: Well? 1151 00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,080 Speaker 5: In the distance this morning, in the darkness of a 1152 00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,960 Speaker 5: very cold morning on the motorbike coming I just got 1153 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:26,960 Speaker 5: to the region. I'm sure in the distance I saw 1154 00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:30,680 Speaker 5: someone ab sailing down it. I'm not think I saw that. 1155 00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:32,680 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. 1156 00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,280 Speaker 7: While city councils out there having a look at that, 1157 00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:35,920 Speaker 7: they could also have a look at the footpath. There's 1158 00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:37,800 Speaker 7: a tree just down the road near where I was 1159 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:41,400 Speaker 7: two five seven Collins where the Liberal meeting was, there 1160 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,880 Speaker 7: was this there's this tree and it's it's in the dark. 1161 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:46,680 Speaker 7: As you're walking along there because one of the street 1162 00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:48,960 Speaker 7: lights had gone out, you can't see the footpath pavement. 1163 00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,960 Speaker 7: One person, a lady, fully stacked on the footpath where 1164 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,000 Speaker 7: the tree roots have come up and the tiles are 1165 00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:58,960 Speaker 7: a bit monkey I mean the guys who'd been there 1166 00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:00,360 Speaker 7: a bit longer than me, So that was about the 1167 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,480 Speaker 7: third or fourth person. It's all go completely over on 1168 00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:04,360 Speaker 7: this bitiful path. 1169 00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:07,040 Speaker 5: Fix that as well, Tony, good morning. 1170 00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:08,760 Speaker 12: Correct. 1171 00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:10,959 Speaker 20: I was just going to say the texting a small 1172 00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,120 Speaker 20: to bigger car, but you need a SUV or four 1173 00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,680 Speaker 20: drive to navigate that speed hump and all the bottles. 1174 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,920 Speaker 2: It just seems but it just seems ridiculous on all 1175 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,600 Speaker 2: sorts of fronts. A there's no explanation at the moment. 1176 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,800 Speaker 2: But if there is an explanation. Surely there should be 1177 00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:27,560 Speaker 2: a warning. 1178 00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,160 Speaker 7: And there should be signage it's gone up road. You 1179 00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:33,280 Speaker 7: have to be alerted to a road change of that magnitude. 1180 00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,400 Speaker 2: Particularly for people who are used to going down that 1181 00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:37,600 Speaker 2: hill like you are, when there aren't a lot of 1182 00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:39,480 Speaker 2: people around there, and because you do it very early 1183 00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:40,840 Speaker 2: on a Saturday and Sunday morning. 1184 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:42,520 Speaker 7: But it wasn't it like you'd have to you have 1185 00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,720 Speaker 7: to put signs on a heap of roads. It's you 1186 00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,960 Speaker 7: can't turn into it from None of us can drive 1187 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,040 Speaker 7: down Swanston Street to get onto it. It's one line 1188 00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,120 Speaker 7: of traffic coming downhill down Colin St. 1189 00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,480 Speaker 2: Just imagine signs. The people who can go up and 1190 00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:57,840 Speaker 2: down those Swanson Street are emergency vehicles. Just imagine if 1191 00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:03,000 Speaker 2: a speeding ambulance or a yes, my truck without without 1192 00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:04,600 Speaker 2: being any warning, bang and hit it. 1193 00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,960 Speaker 5: Chris, good morning, Good morning guys. 1194 00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,720 Speaker 20: I drive a Tesla and I approached her the other 1195 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:16,080 Speaker 20: day and lucky there weren't any cars beyond you because 1196 00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:19,640 Speaker 20: of the car auto breaks thinking there was a solid 1197 00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:20,520 Speaker 20: object on the road. 1198 00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,480 Speaker 2: Seriously, did you just make that up? 1199 00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:25,360 Speaker 12: It? 1200 00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:29,200 Speaker 7: Has it ever? Has it ever happened at a speed bump? 1201 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:29,840 Speaker 7: Before for you. 1202 00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,480 Speaker 5: It's that big. I'm not kidding. 1203 00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:38,160 Speaker 2: You, just just so clarified, Chris. Here you are being 1204 00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,000 Speaker 2: feed income. You're not doing a Darren and talking about aside. 1205 00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:45,400 Speaker 20: I'm I'm a nuclear driver. Drive up and down that 1206 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:49,200 Speaker 20: that bro ten times a day and I first time 1207 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:50,240 Speaker 20: I never knew was there. 1208 00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,480 Speaker 2: Well that's that. If that's true, that is incredible. 1209 00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:54,560 Speaker 5: That is incredible. 1210 00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:55,880 Speaker 7: How long has it been there? Then, Chris? Do you 1211 00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:56,600 Speaker 7: reckon a. 1212 00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,960 Speaker 15: Week listen a week listen it will. 1213 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,560 Speaker 5: I went there last weekend and it was there yesterday morning. 1214 01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:04,600 Speaker 5: Was my first encounter with the matterhorn. 1215 01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:06,200 Speaker 7: And what do you reckon? They need to do? Drop 1216 01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,240 Speaker 7: it by good thirty centimeters or so, come and grate 1217 01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:08,600 Speaker 7: it down. 1218 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,120 Speaker 5: I'm calling it K two, the K two of Colin Street. 1219 01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,560 Speaker 7: Colin, thanks, Chris. 1220 01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:16,640 Speaker 2: Well, that means it's only your second highest. There's going 1221 01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:17,440 Speaker 2: to be a bigger. 1222 01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:18,360 Speaker 5: One from Mount Everest. 1223 01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:18,920 Speaker 8: Marty. 1224 01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,160 Speaker 5: Good morning morning team. 1225 01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:25,560 Speaker 18: Listen, I reckon there's a serious sounding speed hup. I 1226 01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:28,720 Speaker 18: reckon they should have three in each direction near the 1227 01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:30,439 Speaker 18: Montague Street Bridge. 1228 01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:33,800 Speaker 7: That all sort of. 1229 01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:37,040 Speaker 2: Once that speed you go over rather than under the 1230 01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:38,240 Speaker 2: Moni Yune Street Bridge. 1231 01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,680 Speaker 18: That in conjunction was flashing lights warning them of the habit, 1232 01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:45,120 Speaker 18: which people ignore anyway. But my neighbor he got wind 1233 01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,880 Speaker 18: of some very good quality school lockers, so him and 1234 01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:53,040 Speaker 18: he's made hired a truck, got these three lockers and 1235 01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:55,880 Speaker 18: that was all sort of went back, went back to 1236 01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:59,600 Speaker 18: the depot in South Melbourne and proceed to do six 1237 01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,000 Speaker 18: or seven thousand dollars and damage to the truck, which 1238 01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,800 Speaker 18: sort of gated the benefit of the by hitting that. 1239 01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:07,640 Speaker 7: By hitting the bridge offs them a fortune. 1240 01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks Marty for the call at twenty six to 1241 01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:13,640 Speaker 5: midday and to Michael, good morning. 1242 01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,240 Speaker 6: Yeahren, we know the councilors bike riders, so maybe they're 1243 01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:18,760 Speaker 6: trying to encourage mountain bike. 1244 01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:20,760 Speaker 12: Riders in by putting an obstacle course in for them. 1245 01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,160 Speaker 7: Maybe that's cyclist. I don't think there is a bike 1246 01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,280 Speaker 7: lane through that stretch of columns. There's literally no room 1247 01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,440 Speaker 7: between the tram line, the train to stop and the footpath. No, 1248 01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,240 Speaker 7: thanks Michael, you're going to try to get airborne? 1249 01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,120 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, look, it'd be easy. 1250 01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:35,280 Speaker 9: To do that. 1251 01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, Rob, good morning morning team. 1252 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,120 Speaker 11: Look, hegoes, don't know what you're talking about. 1253 01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,680 Speaker 12: We're very special at it. Bring would we have VIC Rhodes. 1254 01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:46,240 Speaker 21: Who actually don't do anything to create a speed hump. 1255 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:51,160 Speaker 21: So on the Mariunda Highway's south outbound outside city, there 1256 01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:53,960 Speaker 21: is a speed hump that has just evolved over a 1257 01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:57,240 Speaker 21: period of time that crosses all three lanes and in 1258 01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,280 Speaker 21: the right hand lane if you're a motorbike ride doing 1259 01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:01,640 Speaker 21: eighty klove on the so now you'll actually get airborne. 1260 01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:03,160 Speaker 11: And it's just evolved. 1261 01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,760 Speaker 7: Some of the roads dropped and then it's risen or it's. 1262 01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:12,240 Speaker 22: All and it's been there for a number of years. 1263 01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,960 Speaker 22: I know Council is asketc Roads to have a look 1264 01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:16,680 Speaker 22: at it. That VIC Roads to sort of strugged the 1265 01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:19,880 Speaker 22: shoulders and go, well, there's nothing that we've done, so 1266 01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:20,760 Speaker 22: just letting it be. 1267 01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:24,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, right the road surface. I can tell you that 1268 01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:28,200 Speaker 7: in the financial year we're currently in as of the 1269 01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,440 Speaker 7: twelfth of June this year, the state government says in 1270 01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:36,560 Speaker 7: the preceding twelve months they have filled two hundred and 1271 01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:41,440 Speaker 7: eleven thousand individual pavement issues, which is what would be 1272 01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,680 Speaker 7: commonly referred to by the rest No, it is what 1273 01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:45,880 Speaker 7: would commonly be referred to by the rest of us. 1274 01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:47,680 Speaker 19: As potting holes. 1275 01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,520 Speaker 7: No no, no, it's roads. They just have called them 1276 01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,600 Speaker 7: to Jeron ymar In an answer to the Public Accounts 1277 01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,640 Speaker 7: and Estimates Committee has written, two hundred and eleven thousand 1278 01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,520 Speaker 7: individual pavement shoes have been dealt with in the state 1279 01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:04,520 Speaker 7: in the financial year to the twelfth of June, and 1280 01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:09,000 Speaker 7: that individual pavement issues that most community members would classify 1281 01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,480 Speaker 7: as potholes. Well, if you're looking for any more to 1282 01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,880 Speaker 7: add to the two hundred and eleven thousand also that 1283 01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,200 Speaker 7: they say they have filled, there's about six or seven 1284 01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:19,480 Speaker 7: on a single stretch of King's King Street before it 1285 01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:22,120 Speaker 7: becomes King's Way King Street that I went over this morning. 1286 01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:23,720 Speaker 7: You know, when you just start to look at it 1287 01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:27,520 Speaker 7: and you're like, this isn't some this isn't some country 1288 01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:31,000 Speaker 7: road that's neglected. This is a pretty major thorough fare 1289 01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:35,920 Speaker 7: through town, and the road is just falling apart. Seriously, 1290 01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:38,880 Speaker 7: in a fifteen hundred stretches coming up to Flagstaff Gardens, 1291 01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,680 Speaker 7: there was a good four or five even six decent 1292 01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:43,640 Speaker 7: sized potholes forming. 1293 01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:45,160 Speaker 5: Well with the ice felt they've put to make this 1294 01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:50,920 Speaker 5: speed up to fill the whole in Victoria, But it'd be. 1295 01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,760 Speaker 2: Interesting to see if anyone could tell us the percent 1296 01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:57,280 Speaker 2: two hundred and one hundred and eleven thousand be interesting 1297 01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:00,400 Speaker 2: to see anyone could tell us what the percentage of 1298 01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:04,200 Speaker 2: the number of complaints that they've filled in, So I 1299 01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:09,840 Speaker 2: presume there must be a million different complaints and how 1300 01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:13,160 Speaker 2: long and how long that will work has actually lasted. 1301 01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,720 Speaker 7: But they'll give information back to the Public Accounts and 1302 01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:18,640 Speaker 7: Estimates Committee, but it'll be as vague as that two 1303 01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:20,600 Speaker 7: hundred and eleven thousand. Well, how many kilometers is that? 1304 01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:22,800 Speaker 7: Well we've done this many kilometers that year, but we've 1305 01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,560 Speaker 7: done this many different areas this year. Well, those aren't 1306 01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:27,040 Speaker 7: the same things. You have to tell us the same 1307 01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:29,600 Speaker 7: measurement to measurements, so we can compare the two things. 1308 01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,640 Speaker 2: Don't tell us and whether the filling is whether and 1309 01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,240 Speaker 2: whether the filling is is a temporary measure or whether 1310 01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:39,480 Speaker 2: it's in fact feed income filling in Hello Allison, Hello, I. 1311 01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:42,320 Speaker 23: Met that speed dump on Thursday afternoon. 1312 01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:43,760 Speaker 2: You introduce yourself to it. 1313 01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:45,160 Speaker 15: How do you go? 1314 01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,360 Speaker 23: I didn't damage my vehicle because I was on a bicycle. 1315 01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:50,280 Speaker 23: Oh yeah, there is a bike lane there, but it's 1316 01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:52,960 Speaker 23: barely like Haiti Nimes. The most caps don't tend to 1317 01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:55,480 Speaker 23: realize it's there. I thought it was a pedestrian crossing 1318 01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,960 Speaker 23: because it has got some white stripes. Yeah, but if 1319 01:04:58,000 --> 01:04:59,920 Speaker 23: anyone stepped onto it from the footpath and it's a 1320 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,000 Speaker 23: farther level and walk to the tram stop, that's left 1321 01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:06,680 Speaker 23: the fence there, So it's obviously just a speed bump, so. 1322 01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:09,280 Speaker 7: You can't you can't walk across to the tram stop 1323 01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:09,960 Speaker 7: that they're. 1324 01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,320 Speaker 23: Less the fencing between the tram stop and wherever, so 1325 01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:13,160 Speaker 23: it's not the pedestrians. 1326 01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:16,480 Speaker 2: It looks like one they're screwed it up. 1327 01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:18,400 Speaker 23: We've got a sink hole near me on the main 1328 01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:21,440 Speaker 23: road and Croth has done two things. They haven't fixed 1329 01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:23,680 Speaker 23: it yet, but I cannot tell they're trying. First they 1330 01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,960 Speaker 23: spray painted a pink cross on it good and then 1331 01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,320 Speaker 23: two days later they put up a little yellow sign 1332 01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,880 Speaker 23: saying dip. So they haven't Those things haven't cured it yet, 1333 01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:34,920 Speaker 23: but I'm sure they're waiting and tell me it. 1334 01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:36,720 Speaker 7: Did it feel like that? Maybe it's a ramp for 1335 01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:38,120 Speaker 7: cyclist to just get some air. 1336 01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:40,960 Speaker 23: Did you don't go fast enough to get there in 1337 01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:41,400 Speaker 23: the dB? 1338 01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,800 Speaker 2: Thank you very much, But that's an interesting point. If 1339 01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:47,360 Speaker 2: they haven't actually made an entrance from the from the 1340 01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:51,240 Speaker 2: tram stop it's clearly well, unless they've really screwed it up, 1341 01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:53,920 Speaker 2: they it clearly can't be a pedestrian crossing, so there 1342 01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,560 Speaker 2: can't be any explanation for it, apart from they want 1343 01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:58,880 Speaker 2: to slow everyone down, but they haven't worn people. 1344 01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:01,360 Speaker 7: You say that, thanks someone you say that. But out 1345 01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:03,480 Speaker 7: here outside Southern Cross Station there's a big, long tram 1346 01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:05,560 Speaker 7: stop that runs along the front of a long Spencer Street, 1347 01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:08,360 Speaker 7: big long tram stop that is completely fenced and walled 1348 01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,600 Speaker 7: off from the street behind it. The street behind it 1349 01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:13,480 Speaker 7: has lost all of its car parking so that there's 1350 01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:16,280 Speaker 7: extra space for pedestrians to stand. There is nowhere for 1351 01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:19,960 Speaker 7: those pedestrians to cross to because the tram stop wall 1352 01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:22,040 Speaker 7: is there. There's no access. You have to go to 1353 01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:24,720 Speaker 7: either end of the stop. All those car parks are 1354 01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:29,400 Speaker 7: gone for extra pedestrian standing crossing space. They haven't put 1355 01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:31,640 Speaker 7: they haven't put parklets in there. It's not an area 1356 01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:36,000 Speaker 7: to dine out, there's no It's the most bizarre thing 1357 01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:39,000 Speaker 7: besides this speed hum by the sound, the most bizarre 1358 01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:41,560 Speaker 7: thing I've seen like it. It's marked for pedestrians to 1359 01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:43,680 Speaker 7: stand around in it, But the little pictures of people 1360 01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,440 Speaker 7: standing there like a mother and baby, mother and child 1361 01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:49,400 Speaker 7: holding hands. You know the outline, it's. 1362 01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:52,560 Speaker 2: Ridiculous, But then add a pedestrian stump is a pedestrian 1363 01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:54,400 Speaker 2: crossing right in the middle of it, And that's what 1364 01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:55,120 Speaker 2: you're talking about. 1365 01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:59,880 Speaker 7: It There is no pedestrian crossing space that's left park. 1366 01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:02,280 Speaker 7: There's no second lane of traffic that can get through 1367 01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:05,360 Speaker 7: there anymore. It's why it's completely immovable on Spencer Street 1368 01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:09,520 Speaker 7: at various points. Some design floor, someone's great idea, but 1369 01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:12,640 Speaker 7: there is no way to get from that car park 1370 01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:16,200 Speaker 7: with size of pedestrian space across to the tram stop. 1371 01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:18,040 Speaker 5: Thanks for the call to Peter. 1372 01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:20,960 Speaker 12: Good morning, Yeah, good morning everybody. 1373 01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:23,280 Speaker 6: Look, we just spent a couple of weeks in Perth 1374 01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:25,920 Speaker 6: and I can't tell you the difference between the two cities, 1375 01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:29,600 Speaker 6: even going on our freeway, a main freeway, the tron 1376 01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:32,880 Speaker 6: freeway going to the airport, the Amena graffiti, the weeds 1377 01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:36,120 Speaker 6: on the side of the road, the rubbish. You go 1378 01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:38,880 Speaker 6: to Perth. We did a lot of country driving, did 1379 01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:42,320 Speaker 6: not go over one pothole, Harley, saw any graffiti, and 1380 01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:45,920 Speaker 6: everything is so clean. Our state is just falling apart 1381 01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:47,640 Speaker 6: when you compare it to the other states. 1382 01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:48,680 Speaker 11: Yeah. 1383 01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:49,480 Speaker 5: Perfect, cool. 1384 01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:51,360 Speaker 10: With you on that. 1385 01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:57,520 Speaker 5: It's a quarter to twelve, eleven to twelve, Rob, good morning. 1386 01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:00,520 Speaker 11: Good morning, Darren. 1387 01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:01,440 Speaker 9: Regarding the. 1388 01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:06,440 Speaker 20: Ground clearance on cars, the praying design and rule state 1389 01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:09,040 Speaker 20: that the minimum experiences one hundred billimeters. 1390 01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:11,320 Speaker 12: So if any speed. 1391 01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:14,800 Speaker 4: Bump on the road is over one hundred millimeters, they're. 1392 01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:17,400 Speaker 12: Breaking the lawn and a law and could be liable 1393 01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:20,559 Speaker 12: for any accident that draw anything or damage it's caused 1394 01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:22,360 Speaker 12: from a speed bump. 1395 01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:25,200 Speaker 7: Darren, take a ruler. Yeah, back out there this afternoon. 1396 01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:27,400 Speaker 5: No, I don't need to. It's it's about a meter. 1397 01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:29,080 Speaker 5: It's not one hundred bills. 1398 01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:32,120 Speaker 2: Yes, your honor, did you actually measure? 1399 01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:32,519 Speaker 5: Didn't? 1400 01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:36,720 Speaker 2: They just guessed it was about a meter that I'm 1401 01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:40,120 Speaker 2: presuming and hopefully Rob that whoever put it in knew 1402 01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:42,360 Speaker 2: that I knew that rule. 1403 01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:43,320 Speaker 7: Just look kind enough to you. 1404 01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:48,559 Speaker 2: No more, we do the Darren approach. That looks like one. 1405 01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:51,479 Speaker 7: Hundred to the trams top level the right height. 1406 01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:54,519 Speaker 5: Yes, Paul, good morning, good morning. 1407 01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:54,960 Speaker 13: How are you? 1408 01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:55,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1409 01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:55,760 Speaker 11: Good Paul? 1410 01:08:56,520 --> 01:09:00,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, So that actually is a war eventually me a 1411 01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:04,000 Speaker 8: walkway across from the tram stop to the production footpath. 1412 01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:05,080 Speaker 11: It's up. 1413 01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:08,880 Speaker 8: That's why it's up. As high as the. 1414 01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:12,760 Speaker 7: Tram crossing and what is your what what is your 1415 01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:15,240 Speaker 7: particular level of knowledge about this, Paul, what's your involvement? 1416 01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:19,360 Speaker 8: I have seen them at other tram platforms. We have 1417 01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:24,400 Speaker 8: done new tram platforms in La Trope Street. 1418 01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:28,599 Speaker 2: Should there not be some sort of warning street. 1419 01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:34,160 Speaker 8: The Brenlands the showing probably warnings, you know, but it's 1420 01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:35,240 Speaker 8: the same government. 1421 01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:40,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, we are told that the council where we told them. 1422 01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:43,080 Speaker 2: Hopefully you will get confirmation shortly that it is the 1423 01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:44,400 Speaker 2: council that controls that. 1424 01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:47,519 Speaker 8: The council controls all the city of Melbourne. 1425 01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:50,880 Speaker 7: Yes, it's correct, the inside the hottle grid, just not 1426 01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:51,479 Speaker 7: the outside. 1427 01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:54,479 Speaker 8: And then the inside of the trucks is done by 1428 01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:55,320 Speaker 8: the raw trains. 1429 01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:57,360 Speaker 5: So there is in. 1430 01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:03,120 Speaker 8: Uh Latrobe Street the new stops up in the Trope. Yeah, 1431 01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:05,720 Speaker 8: if you drive there you'll see the same thing. But 1432 01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:07,519 Speaker 8: I've just I was just there. That one is a 1433 01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:10,799 Speaker 8: little bit high and the slope down towards low towards 1434 01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:14,240 Speaker 8: the footpath on the new one to put in and 1435 01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:17,560 Speaker 8: you'll see and you'll see on the other side go 1436 01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:21,000 Speaker 8: on outwards up the hill. No one put there soon 1437 01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:26,559 Speaker 8: and down some killa way in the park and Fitzroy 1438 01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:29,160 Speaker 8: Street and the tram stop twelve. They've done the same 1439 01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:30,479 Speaker 8: there with that train stop as well. 1440 01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:32,080 Speaker 7: I mean, look, I can sta understand. I can certain 1441 01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:34,840 Speaker 7: understand the reason for it, but I mean it's still 1442 01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:36,640 Speaker 7: fenced off at this point, so it's not clear that 1443 01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,040 Speaker 7: it's a pedestrian crossing, is what Allison told us. And 1444 01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:41,040 Speaker 7: then if there's no markings or there's no there's just 1445 01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:43,639 Speaker 7: no warnings that it's there, they should be and it's 1446 01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:45,320 Speaker 7: not fair to to motorists. 1447 01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:49,720 Speaker 2: It's not it's not right, particularly in a thoroughfare like that, 1448 01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:53,200 Speaker 2: which is so busy, so many people use it, there 1449 01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:56,120 Speaker 2: has to be a warning of changing conditions, particularly if 1450 01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:57,759 Speaker 2: it is as big as Darren says. 1451 01:10:58,160 --> 01:10:59,760 Speaker 5: Do you have a slowther and whack Nick? 1452 01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:03,000 Speaker 2: I do, and it's on a totally something different I 1453 01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:05,639 Speaker 2: can't believe, and I'm sure Darren you feel the same. 1454 01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:10,080 Speaker 2: This week was the fiftieth anniversary of the release of 1455 01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:14,479 Speaker 2: Jaws and Jaws I remember growing up as a kid, 1456 01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:18,960 Speaker 2: Jaws was the first movie I remember that actually changed 1457 01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:23,040 Speaker 2: people's behavior. I remember going so many people going to 1458 01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:27,559 Speaker 2: the beach afterwards, and everyone sort of looked at each 1459 01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:30,920 Speaker 2: other before going in the water. It was an amazing film. 1460 01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:33,080 Speaker 2: And I also found out which I didn't realize, that 1461 01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:36,720 Speaker 2: Roy Scheider's line You're going to need another boat was 1462 01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:41,880 Speaker 2: totally a bigger boat. It was totally ad lipped. It 1463 01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:44,880 Speaker 2: was not in the script, and Spielberg liked it so 1464 01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:47,519 Speaker 2: much you put it in and it just the power 1465 01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:51,080 Speaker 2: of cinema. It illustrated the power of cinema so much. 1466 01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:55,800 Speaker 2: And I just remember it clear as day, people on 1467 01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:57,960 Speaker 2: the beach. We had a place down at angle Sea, 1468 01:11:58,000 --> 01:11:59,840 Speaker 2: so we were down at Anglesey. I remember going to 1469 01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:02,559 Speaker 2: the Anglesly Beach for the first time and looking up 1470 01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:07,240 Speaker 2: and down and people you could see everyone. You're just 1471 01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:10,680 Speaker 2: an amazing film, and still after fifty years you can 1472 01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:12,760 Speaker 2: watch it and it still terrifies you. 1473 01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:15,639 Speaker 5: And Robert Shaw one of his lines in the movie, 1474 01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:17,720 Speaker 5: for some reason, is the shark's approaching. He gets a 1475 01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:20,400 Speaker 5: drink and he says cheers and he says, here's to 1476 01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:21,760 Speaker 5: swimmen with ball legged women. 1477 01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:24,200 Speaker 15: Where did that come from? 1478 01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:27,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, bolegged woman was. 1479 01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:32,240 Speaker 2: Just saying No. It's a magical film. And to me, 1480 01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:36,519 Speaker 2: because I love movies, it just shows the power of 1481 01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:39,160 Speaker 2: cinema and what a great movie does that It sticks 1482 01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:41,559 Speaker 2: with you for fifty years, but also changes behavior. 1483 01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:44,599 Speaker 7: I think I've heard somewhords it has done some damage 1484 01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:49,519 Speaker 7: to some tourist appeal, tourist appeal to. No, I think 1485 01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:52,479 Speaker 7: it's still ongoing tourism appeal to. 1486 01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:54,760 Speaker 2: Where it was it set, Well, it was set in 1487 01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:57,920 Speaker 2: but I don't think. I'm not sure that's an actual 1488 01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:01,280 Speaker 2: legious place. But wherever wherever it was shot, and I 1489 01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:03,680 Speaker 2: can't remember now wherever it was shot because it was 1490 01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:07,120 Speaker 2: very distinctive. There weren't a lot of people at summer 1491 01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:09,320 Speaker 2: remembering it release. 1492 01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:10,720 Speaker 7: It's a Great White Shark's a bad name. 1493 01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:14,560 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well I'd a great name to start with. 1494 01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:19,000 Speaker 2: But I remember that was released obviously at the start 1495 01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:23,000 Speaker 2: of summer American time, I can't remember, and obviously in 1496 01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:25,280 Speaker 2: those days it was very different. I can't remember exactly 1497 01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:27,439 Speaker 2: when it was released in Australia, but I reckon it 1498 01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:28,920 Speaker 2: was just before the start of summer too. 1499 01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,599 Speaker 5: Up next three Will You Footy Preview with Shane McGinnis, 1500 01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:35,280 Speaker 5: Laura spu Way, Matthew Richardson and Shrey Carlton. Fans jump 1501 01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:37,439 Speaker 5: on the line right now. Is it the end of 1502 01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:42,080 Speaker 5: Michael Voss or any give them marine Kangaroo supporters that 1503 01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:44,439 Speaker 5: wanted to say today we love our rooms. 1504 01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:46,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the start of something special. And the other 1505 01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:49,320 Speaker 2: whack that I quickly wanted to do as well. We 1506 01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:52,880 Speaker 2: read Sam Keikovich in the paper today it is that 1507 01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:58,040 Speaker 2: nineteen to seventy five first premiership was so it was 1508 01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:01,400 Speaker 2: such a landmark and for them not to celebrate it 1509 01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:03,479 Speaker 2: properly is an insult to those players. 1510 01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:06,600 Speaker 5: CARDI, we may have time for your quick slather and 1511 01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:10,560 Speaker 5: whack coming up, but it's five to twelve. Just in 1512 01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:13,560 Speaker 5: time at two to twelve for either a slather or 1513 01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:15,600 Speaker 5: whack or both from you higher sort of. 1514 01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:17,519 Speaker 7: I had a bit of whack at the road surface 1515 01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:20,040 Speaker 7: separate to yours, with the two hundred and eleven thousand 1516 01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:22,800 Speaker 7: potholes allegedly filled over the space the last year. My 1517 01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:25,280 Speaker 7: quick slather would be we give politicians a hard time. 1518 01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:26,560 Speaker 7: I do it every day of the week. But we 1519 01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:28,680 Speaker 7: give politicians a hard time, we should also give them 1520 01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:30,479 Speaker 7: a little pat on the back when something great happens. 1521 01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:34,320 Speaker 7: So two fundraisers at Parliament this week. One was our 1522 01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:37,840 Speaker 7: own version of an ice bath, dunking people eleven on 1523 01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:39,680 Speaker 7: them in the end went through Sam Groft, the only 1524 01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:42,240 Speaker 7: one to pull out, but he wasn't well. Eleven Polleys 1525 01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:45,120 Speaker 7: from all across the political spectrum dunked in there, raised 1526 01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:48,040 Speaker 7: fifty thousand dollars plus thing maybe fifty five thousand or 1527 01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:55,439 Speaker 7: so for the fight MND Neil danaher organization. Yeah, the 1528 01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:59,480 Speaker 7: big freeze for Emma Vullen, one of their Labor backbencher 1529 01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:01,599 Speaker 7: who was diagnosed with M and D at the start 1530 01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:04,559 Speaker 7: of the start of last year. So all in support 1531 01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:06,479 Speaker 7: of her, everybody getting into the spirit of it. It 1532 01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:10,680 Speaker 7: was freaking cop And then the other fundraiser was on 1533 01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:13,519 Speaker 7: Thursday night and three w's own Tom Elliott was part 1534 01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:16,000 Speaker 7: of the media team that also involved rap Epstein and 1535 01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:18,720 Speaker 7: samya Il and b from the Financial Review that beat 1536 01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:22,880 Speaker 7: three politicians in the Great debate fundraising for the Lions 1537 01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:25,599 Speaker 7: Club at Parliament. It's a fundraiser that started last year. 1538 01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:28,000 Speaker 7: This was the second year and the Polly's won last year. 1539 01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:31,680 Speaker 7: It beat the topic beat my team we should have 1540 01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:37,080 Speaker 7: AI politicians politicians yes, well, the politicians were the affirmative 1541 01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:41,040 Speaker 7: side and the media with the negative side. It was 1542 01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:44,280 Speaker 7: wildly entertaining and raised good money for a great call 1543 01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:44,960 Speaker 7: for Liance Club. 1544 01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:48,320 Speaker 2: Credit to them A good week, Next