WEBVTT - Wake Up Australia with Phil O'Neil - Friday 20th June 0:00:04.240 --> 0:00:19.360 This onto GB for b C and network stations. This 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:20.919 is wake Up Oustrod. 0:00:21.000 --> 0:00:22.800 Yeah, with Phill O'Neill. 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:35.519 Morning. 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:36.080 How are you? 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:39.320 David said, Hey, Phil, be careful with giving advice to 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:42.360 someone about the spinal problems. 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:42.680 Now. 0:00:42.720 --> 0:00:44.560 As I said to David, as I was saying to 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:46.559 people like on the phone, Rob, I said, I am 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:49.519 no medical professional, so I'm not giving you any advice 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:52.680 on what to do. I said, go to a physiotherapist. 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:55.440 But based on what I did, as I said to Rock, 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:58.160 what I did was I went to a physio. They 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:04.040 worked on things for me, including the glutons and the 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:07.360 glutons I don't know that doesn't sound right, the buttocks anyway, 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:10.200 and also the and also the hips and everything like that. 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:12.920 So yeah, David appreciate that. And by the way, David, 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:16.400 if you've got this experience too, maybe we can get 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:18.319 you to come on and also give us some advice 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:20.440 for what we can do with backpain. So I appreciate 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:22.120 your texts that came through a moment ago. We're going 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:23.800 to get to Jonathan Cursley in just a moment to 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:26.440 find out what's going on with your overnight news and 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:28.840 especially what's happening in America. But let's get to the 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:31.680 front page of the newspapers first, and the Australian has 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:36.120 this story that Jim Charmers has taken taxes on death 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:39.320 and the family home off the reform agenda at August's 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:43.480 Productivity Roundtable, while playing down any suggestion that the meeting 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:46.560 will be a repeat of the union dominated Jobs and 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:49.760 Skills Summit of twenty twenty two. Thank you for that. 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:51.960 Let's get to the Age, and the story in the 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:55.480 Age is Victoria is grappling with its highest youth crime 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:59.640 rate since electronic records began, with new records and figures 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:03.960 laying down and bearing really obviously this surge and offending 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:07.320 but forced the state government to strengthen the bail laws. 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:10.639 Police are making two hundred and eight arrests a day 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:16.480 alongside the unprecedented seizure of edged records, marking what could 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:19.560 be the highest figures in the force's history. That's the 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:22.760 front page of the Age, front page of the Herald Sun. 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:25.520 A woman's been left to die while waiting for up 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:29.600 to five hours for an ambulance due to emergency services 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:33.800 having a standoff. Paramedics were called late on Tuesday requesting 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:37.680 police assistance because the woman had been violent with emergency 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:41.440 service workers in the past, but police refused to attend 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:45.919 without evidence of violence. This is the Financial Review front page. 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:50.799 Higher taxes on family trusts and electronic electric vehicle drivers 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:55.000 are expected to be proposed by the Treasury as the 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:58.280 options for Jim Chalmers to meet his objective on raising 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:02.280 revenue to pay for income tax cuts and bolster the 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:06.600 federal budget. The Sidney Mording Herald people are leaving Australia 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:11.560 in the highest numbers since the pandemic, easing population growth 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:14.400 and signaling the end of a two year migrant boom 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:19.840 overseen by the Albanesi government despite its pledgures to curb immigration. 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:24.040 The front page of the Courier Mail tech giants resisting 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:27.840 Australia's world first laws to ban under sixteens from social 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:32.639 media will now have no excuse after an age verification 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:36.840 trial determined it would be private, robust and effective. The 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:40.880 preliminary findings of the Age Assurance Technology trial will be 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:44.920 unveiled this afternoon. The world first legislation to raise the 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:49.160 minimum age of social media to use to sixteen came 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:51.960 after the Courier Mails Let Them Be Kids campaign and 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:53.800 also on the front page of the year, Caurier mail, 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:57.720 We're just getting started, Captain Cam's warning to the Blues. 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:00.600 Oh come on, guys, you only won one game. Here's 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:04.480 your Canberra Times front page. The Canberra Liberals Peter Kain 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:07.480 has resigned from shadow cabinet, declaring that he can no 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:10.760 longer support the opposition's leadership team. And let's wrap this 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:12.960 up with the front page of the Daily Telegraph, and 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:15.400 again going back to the story that Australia has been 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:18.919 given the green light to use age verification to implement 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:22.560 a world leading social media ban for under sixteens after 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:27.039 the first technological trial determined it would be private, robust 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:29.880 and effective. That's your front page of the newspapers. Let's 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:32.320 go to Jonathan Cursley, who's on the phone, the Channel 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:35.359 nine US correspondent from Los Angeles. Good morning, mate. I 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:39.080 find it really interesting, Jonathan. The breaking news of the morning, 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:42.960 Donald Trump saying that he will make a decision on 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:46.159 Iran in two weeks. That's a long time to wait. 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:46.359 Will it? 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:47.760 Well? 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:50.120 Two weeks that's the words out of the mouths of 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:53.240 the President. Caroline Leave at the Press Secretary delivering a 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:56.680 statement from him in the White House Press briefing or 0:04:56.720 --> 0:04:59.719 of just moments ago. Essentially yes, as you said, saying 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:03.080 that because of what he says is the substantial chances 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:06.160 of negotiations with the Iranian regime of a nuclear deal, 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:08.680 that he will then make a decision in two weeks 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:11.720 on whether or not to strike Iran. Now, there's obviously 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:15.560 little clarity around what that could actually mean. What he's 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:18.040 looking for in a nuclear deal, according to the White 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:22.200 House Press secretary, is essentially no enrichment, no chance of 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:26.719 having a nuclear weapon, and she then reiterated claims that 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:31.000 Iran is very close to having a nuclear weapon, lines 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:34.080 we have heard from Israel for quite some time. Now. 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:37.680 What is interesting I think with this, Phil is that 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:41.480 Donald Trump has a history of giving two week deadlines. 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:45.880 He's given Vladimir Putin two week deadlines on Ukraine repeatedly 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:49.360 over the course of this year. Those deadlines come and 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:53.640 those deadlines pass. The big question I've got now listening 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:57.240 to this and looking at the President's history over these negotiations, 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:00.560 is what if this two week deadline actually going to mean. 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:04.800 We have seen a significant rift among Naga circles over 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:08.320 the possibility that he could launch military action in Iran, 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:10.880 given the factor campaigns so heavily on being a president 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:13.600 of peace and somebody who wouldn't start war. Was clearly 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:16.160 that is weighing on his mind. Yesterday we saw reporting 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:19.040 from the Wall Street Journal initially that he had approved 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:21.880 plans but was going to wait until the final moment, essentially, 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:24.480 and he himself said he likes to make a decision 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:28.080 at the very last second. So it seems as though 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:31.040 that very last second is going to be two weeks 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:34.440 away from now. In the meantime, the war between Iran 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:38.960 and Israel with these retaliatory strikes is now seven days 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:41.479 in the making and shows no sign of easing, So 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:44.000 it'll be twenty one days by the time we get 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:47.240 to that point three weeks. So set your deadline, sets 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:49.320 your clock, sets your timers, set whatever it is you 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:51.880 want to do. Two weeks from now, will we have 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:54.440 a decision from the United States President on whether the 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:57.040 US gets involved in this war. We're just gonna have 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:58.080 to wait and say. 0:06:57.839 --> 0:07:00.400 Well, that's right. And in the meantime, the two are 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:02.799 going to pound the crap out of each other with missiles, 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:06.359 which is certainly something that's the people that are living 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:09.240 there are having to live with that too, unless, of 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:13.320 course they can find some kind of agreement. But at 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:15.800 the moment, nobody's making any agreements with each other. But 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:18.320 you're right, it is interesting that he did bring in 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:21.480 this two week period. And I was talking to Dr 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:24.720 Keith Suitter about this earlier on and he floated the idea. 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:27.040 And I think, as you did there too, that Donald 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:29.880 Trump also has to appeal to his base, and he's 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:33.440 promised his base that he's not going to as this president, 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:36.520 he's going to not get involved in wars that are 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:39.280 not anything to do with him. So do you think 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:41.400 maybe that's got a little bit something to do with it. 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:43.400 He's getting pulled from both signs. 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:47.240 He's being pulled in a million different directions. I mean, 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:49.280 I don't use that figure literally, He's been pulled in 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:51.960 a number of different directions. Clearly there's a view from 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:55.000 the Israelis that they want the United States involved in 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:58.600 this war. Benjaminettnan, who is clearly looking to the US president, 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:00.960 even though he's saying today that they tell Donald Trump 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:05.120 what to do, they want America's involvement because essentially and 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:08.960 ideally they want America to use the so called bunker 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:13.160 busters to attack the Podo Nuclear facility site that so 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:16.560 much of it is underground, and the Israelis essentially say 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:18.200 they don't have the equipment to be able to do that, 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:22.360 and their goal is to essentially remove the entire Iranian 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:25.120 nuclear program altogether. In order to do that, you have 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:27.760 to strike this facility. Now, it's been reported that President 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:31.720 Trump had asked his people inside the situation room, his advisors, 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:34.600 whether or not there was confidence that the bunker busters 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:38.360 might actually work, and the Pentagon officials, the military officials 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:41.520 certainly seem to think so. But yes, there is a 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:44.679 big element of Donald Trump having to try and work 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:47.079 out not only is he going to try and side 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:49.440 with Israel on this, is he going to try and 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:51.440 be the person he said he was going to be, 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:53.400 and that is somebody who wants peace and it doesn't 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:56.440 end to foreign wars. And exactly as you said, how 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:59.920 does he walk this very fine line with his mag 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:03.600 support base that essentially is splintering over this. You have 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:06.280 somebody like Taka Carlson, a very staunched Donald Trump mega 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:10.600 supporter who is vehumanly against launching strikes on Iran. He 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:14.559 then goes and interviews Senator Ted Cruz, who is a 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:18.400 huge MAGA Trump supporter and a huge protector of Israel 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:22.679 and wants to strike Iran. So there is this split 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:26.400 within MAGA circles, and Donald Trump is now trying to 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:30.440 unify this group. But he himself is the one that's 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:32.800 going to have to make the decision. Now, if he 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:36.319 chooses to strike, that's not going to win over everybody 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:39.920 by any stretch of the imagination. So he's buying himself 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:42.480 some time here. He's buying himself some time to see 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:46.280 if negotiations can work. Even though yesterday he said his 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:49.640 patients had run out, he seems to be wanting to 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:54.559 give himself a window. Remember too, Tomorrow, phil the European 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:56.640 foreign ministers are going to be meeting with the Iranian 0:09:56.640 --> 0:09:59.920 foreign ministers to try and have some sort of pathway 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:04.800 to cease fire in the Iran Israel war. But ultimately 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:07.680 the decision on what happens is going to be in 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:10.679 the hands of the United States President. And he knows this. 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:14.320 He craves the attention, he craves the power, and right 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:17.720 now he's got it, and essentially he's got the fate 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:21.480 of the Middle East, potentially the world sitting right in 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:22.400 the palm of his hand. 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:25.120 I wonder if you hit the nail on the head 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:28.160 though when you say, perhaps there's all of this at 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:31.600 the moment, the bunker buster seems to be the savior 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:34.600 of everything. But maybe you've hit the nail on their head. 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:37.200 Maybe they've thought because I looked up a little bit 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:39.320 about the bunker Buster, because we're all talking about it now, 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:41.480 as though you know, we are sort of familiar with 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:43.320 what it is and what it does. But the thing is, 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:46.520 and I read this article, the exact size of the 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:50.480 ford O fuel enrichment plant is unclear, so it said 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:53.440 that the halls are estimated to be eighty to ninety 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:57.360 meters underground. But according to a UK based think tank 0:10:57.720 --> 0:11:01.520 called the Royal United Services Institute, they said that according 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:04.240 to a recent report, they would likely have to be 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:08.480 multiple impacts at the same aiming point to have a 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:12.880 good chance of actually penetrating the facility. Maybe somebody's suddenly 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:15.600 got to hang on a second, it's not actually going 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:17.760 to do the job unless you've got lots of them 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:20.560 to drop. I wonder if that's perhaps something that's going 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:23.480 on in this sort of equation on this decision. 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:26.319 Well, you've got to remember, Donald Trump's going to have 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:28.600 a lot of people shouting at him at the moment, 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:32.400 figuratively putting forward their beliefs, their ideas. And clearly, if 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:36.040 that report about him raising the ideas of having confidence 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:39.760 in the bunker busters is accurate, then clearly there are 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:44.679 people talking to him that are raising these concerns with him. Now, oh, 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:46.839 to be a fly on the wall of the Oval 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:49.760 office and the situation room as these discussions are unfolding, 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:53.080 because Donald Trump knows exactly how much power he yields. 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:56.959 But carrying out an operation to drop a bunker buster 0:11:57.200 --> 0:12:01.240 is an incredibly huge operation. To launch the B two's 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:04.760 the stealth aircraft from the United States of America. They 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:09.760 are kept here because they are so incredibly expensive and lucrative. 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:13.360 They essentially fly silently, they disappear from radars. They're going 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:16.800 to have to refuel on the way to get into Iran. 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:19.520 That refueling is going to have to take place mid air, 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:22.920 and then they're going to have to drop these bunker busters, 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:26.120 probably more than one if you were to imagine the 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:28.720 sort of operation they would want to carry out, and 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:31.880 then fly all the way back. So it's some thirty 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:34.640 thirty six hour round trip. It is a huge operation, 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:38.440 and the fallout from that is obviously part of what 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:40.600 the president, a huge part of what the president has 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:43.920 to consider as well, because what are Iranian stocks left 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:46.839 going to do? They've already indicated that the Hoothy should 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:50.480 launch strikes on ships in the waters in and around 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:53.560 the Middle East. Now, that could disrupt shipping routes, shipping lanes, 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:57.520 it could disrupt oil transfer from the Middle East to 0:12:57.559 --> 0:12:59.840 other parts of the country. We've already seen oil prices 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:02.640 increase over the course of the last week. Then you 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:04.360 have to look at the Arab nations. How are they 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:08.760 going to respond to this. Iran is already indicating that 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:12.440 they would likely have some support. President Putin in Russia 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:15.720 is watching this closely too, and there's been reports that 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:19.320 China has been senting in supply aircraft. So there is 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:23.240 a huge amount of global geopolitics going on right now 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:27.760 in positioning over what is essentially two countries, Iran and Israel, 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:31.080 and one man, and that man is Donald Trump. And 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:35.480 the problem is the entire world the political leaders do 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:37.839 not know what he is going to do. They are 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:41.160 preparing for a worst case scenario as you would expect 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:44.000 them to do. They are preparing as you would expect 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:46.840 them to do for him to attack, but they would 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:51.280 also be preparing for something not to happen, because any 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:53.400 political leader with their wits about them, is going to 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:55.240 make sure they have as many bases covered. But the 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:57.760 problem is, right now they're all sitting there looking at 0:13:57.800 --> 0:13:59.960 each other wondering what on earth is going to have 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.880 up and next they try to predict the entirely unpredictable. 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:03.400 That's right. 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:06.000 You brought up a really interesting point to I wonder 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:09.800 how much that would actually cost that operation. When you 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:12.440 say the B fifty two, the B two do you have? 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:13.440 Would you would you. 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:15.080 Want to have a guess at the bullpark figure of 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:17.840 that with everything included in the package. 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:23.200 Well you'd have to be looking at millions, millions, millions 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:26.280 of dollars and look at the value of these aircraft 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:29.800 who they are hugely expensive and hugely valuable to the 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:33.840 American military assets. So what they are doing is taking, 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:36.720 if they do strike, is taking a big political gamble, 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:42.240 a taking a big regional global conflict gamble, because if 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:45.000 Donald Trump decides to go that way, that may be 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:47.600 the only option he wants to do drop a couple 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:49.760 of bunker bosss and then leave and be out and 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:52.080 be done and not do anything so that he can 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:55.440 appease his megabase and not get involved in long, lengthy 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:59.520 wars far away. But if he does something like that, 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:03.160 there may well be repercussions and consequences from the Middle 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:06.280 East that could drag the United States in. So he's 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:09.000 having to walk this very fine line himself of trying 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:13.040 to work out if he does take Option A to strike, 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:16.960 which he seems to be leaning towards, what is the 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:20.320 fallout going to be. He's moved a lot of American 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:23.920 military assets into the region. There are aircraft carriers that 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:26.880 have gone there, There are aircraft that have moved into 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:31.880 the region, all posturing in case something may need to 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:34.560 be done. But the question then is you move so 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:37.520 many personnel into the region, and Iran has already raised 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:40.760 the prospect of the who he's attacking American ships, Well, 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:44.760 then you have the prospects that American personnel are at risk. 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:47.480 And the President has made it clear if Iran attacks 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:50.760 any American personnel, be they civilian on military, there is 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:54.120 going to be a problem. So this is a huge 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:57.320 roll of the dice for whatever move he makes. Right 0:15:57.440 --> 0:16:01.520 now as we sit here today, seven days into this conflict, 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:06.240 he is buying himself some time to avoid a very 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:10.120 difficult decision, and that is to launch a military strike 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:13.720 on Iran that will have consequences right around the world. 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:15.920 Jonathan Kursley, always a pleasure to talk to you. Thank 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:17.800 you so much for your time. Jonathan Cursley there from 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:21.480 Los Angeles, the Channel Line US correspondent, twenty three minutes 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:24.880 past four, twenty six minutes past four. Ben Fordham on 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:27.640 Sydney's two GB at five point thirty, John Laws the 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:31.200 legend of broadcasting on the show today. Mike Leevy follows 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:34.120 that at nine in Brisbane four BC, it's Peter Figan. 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:35.720 We're going to get to your news booths in just 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:38.000 a moment too in Sydney and in Melbourne to see 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:40.080 what's going on. Then we'll catch up with Brendan O'Neil, 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:42.640 who's in the UK, to find out what stories are 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:45.920 happening in the UK, including the temperature thirty two degrees 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:49.360 it's pretty warm there. Every Friday we wrap up the 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:52.040 week with rhiannon Down, who's on the phone. The political 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:54.840 reporter for The Australian. Good morning to you. This is 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:58.640 the week that was in camera. Let's get it started with, well, 0:16:58.640 --> 0:16:59.400 where do you want to start? 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:01.680 Yeg meeting didn't end up happening. 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:05.800 We had the long awaited G seven summit where Albernezi, 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:08.080 our Prime Minister, was due to have his first meeting 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:12.400 with Donald Trump face to face to discuss tariffs and orcurse. 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:16.679 But despite being highly anticipated in the media for months 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:19.360 or weeks, I should say, it didn't end up happening. 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:22.080 Donald Trump canceled at the minute and left him hanging 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:25.320 because of the Middle East conflict, which I imagine was very 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:28.639 disappointing for the Prime Minister and the government because they 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:31.680 were very keen to negotiate an exception from those tariffs 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:35.000 that have been causing them so much grief. Apparently he 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:37.880 didn't receive he did not receive a call from Trump 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:41.840 personally afterwards, which some leaders did, which is unfortunate. However, 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:45.399 Athne Albernizi's now considering going to a NATO summit in 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:48.000 the Netherlands soon to meet Trump in person, so he's 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:50.680 certainly keen to make up for that lost meeting. He 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:53.000 sees it as very critically important as a way of 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:56.359 assuring the nation that he's a capable economic manager and 0:17:56.480 --> 0:17:58.240 able to negotiate. 0:17:57.680 --> 0:17:59.320 An exemption those tariffs. 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:02.720 However, there were some successes for Anthony Albernizi in terms 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:05.879 of he did meet with some EU officials to discuss 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:08.840 a new Security and Defense Pact, which is something that's 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:11.720 on the table, so certainly some closer ties with Europe 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:13.879 emerging out of that G seven summit. 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:16.280 Jim Chalmers went to the National Press Club. How did 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:16.520 he go? 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:20.320 Just a week after Anthony Alberzi gave his own presentation 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:22.359 at the National Press Club, which I'm sure he was 0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:25.439 very keen to get him first. The Treasurer, Jim Chalmers 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:28.119 has now done his He did that on Wednesday and 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:30.399 it was really I mean, he talked up his achievements 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:33.080 after his first term as Treasurer and sort of talked 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:35.400 about the mandate in the next three years ahead. 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:37.960 So there was certainly, you know, very like it was 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:39.359 a bit of a victory life, I'd say for the 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:40.080 treasure He. 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:42.879 Sort of talked about the government's track record of bringing 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:46.439 down inflation while making sure that unemployment didn't rise, so 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:48.000 certainly the government's had some successes. 0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:49.520 He also sort of tried to temper. 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:50.879 This with this idea of you know, there's a lot 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:54.040 of global volatility, there's tariffs, there's all over the world now. 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:57.320 And he also talked up this productivity roundtable that's coming 0:18:57.400 --> 0:18:59.480 up in August where they're going to bring all these 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:02.560 prominentusiness leaders and economic leaders and so of discussed how 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:06.080 to get the nation's productivity sort of out of adultrums 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:08.800 that it's in. So certainly it was a well received 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:11.280 speech for Jim Chalmers. He did also make a few 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:13.680 interesting admissions. He said that the budget as it is 0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:17.000 is not sustainable. We've got spending sort of falling short 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:19.480 of all the big ticket items the government needs to fund, 0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:22.960 like the care economy, that's age care, health indies, all 0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:23.600 those things. 0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:25.520 Defense is another big one at the moment. 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:28.080 And he talked about this idea of tax reform, which 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:32.240 is very interesting. Labor certainly steered clear of tax reforms 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:34.000 early in the first term. 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:35.760 And he sort of flagged. 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:37.560 This suggestion that you know, everything should be left on 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:39.800 the table, the possibility of looking at GST. 0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:42.200 But he also talked about this idea of consensus. 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:44.720 He said that failures to get productivity out of the 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:47.240 gutters or reform the economy won't. 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:48.800 Be because of a lack of courage. It'll be because 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:49.000 of a. 0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:52.080 Lack of consensus, and consensus will be the key thing here. 0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:53.720 He talked a lot about this topic. 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:56.439 We've got already, we've got the coalition, James Pattison, the 0:19:56.440 --> 0:19:58.399 Finance Minister, coming out saying that this is sort of 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:01.080 code for labor saying they want to raise So we'll 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:03.159 see how that goes, this idea of tax reform. 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:05.160 And this has been this Week in Camera. 0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:07.560 Good to talk to you, Thanks so much. Rihanna down 0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:10.720 there with this Week in Camera, a political report for 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:13.119 the Australian. There it's four thirty okay, let's get to 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:15.600 the newsrooms and find out what we've got going on 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:18.880 around Australia. First League starting in Sydney to GV. 0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:23.000 And now on Wake Up Australia News. 0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:26.600 Today with Sasha Foot. Good morning Sasha, what have we got? 0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:30.080 Good morning Phil. The White House says US President Donald 0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:33.080 Trump will make a decision on whether to attack Iran 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:37.680 within two weeks. Negotiations to find a diplomatic solution are 0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:41.320 expected to continue, with mister Trump confirming he wants to 0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:45.199 pursue diplomacy, but he is unafraid to use strength. A 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:47.920 man is fighting for life in hospital after being shot 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:51.960 by police in Sydney's Southwest. Officers say they shot at 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:54.399