1 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: It will henceforth be the official policy of the United 2 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: States government that there are only two genders. 3 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 2: This is really bias from the government showing your Prime 4 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 2: Minister Albert Albanisi commented on the situation. 5 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 3: Pleading for a panel of overcaffeinated. 6 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 4: This is Sunday morning, Swammy. 7 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 5: I'm easy like sund. 8 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 6: You're right hardy. Every week when that lady, says Albert Albani, 9 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 6: we look at each other and smile. It makes you 10 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 6: a laugh. 11 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 7: It's just funny. It was a tennis commentator when that 12 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 7: whole Novak Drockovich thing and Tony Jones thing were happening 13 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 7: at the start of the year. Albert Albert every time. 14 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 6: Now, normally this stage of proceedings, i'd say Nick McCallum, 15 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 6: good morning, But this morning I'm not going to because 16 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 6: he is on special assignment with his TV. 17 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 7: Told and he hasn't not a word. 18 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 6: I thought he'd mentioned it to you. 19 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 7: We are rivals, so well. 20 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 6: That's true, so we mentioned to you. But I thought 21 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 6: he mentioned it to the boss. 22 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 7: I thought he mentioned it to someone here. 23 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 6: Yeah, I asked every week, maybe he mentioned it to 24 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 6: his filling who, well, not filling, but our special guest 25 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 6: is more appropriate. Sorry, correct our special guest this morning, 26 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 6: who's who is by the name of Mark Allen Marco. 27 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 6: Good morning to you. 28 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 5: You know what I reckon, Anthony Albert is he looks 29 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 5: more like an Albert anyway, Actually stick with I think 30 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 5: he should know. I think he should run with it, 31 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 5: Albert Albert. It's so much better. 32 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 6: He looks more like an Albert. 33 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 7: Doesn't he call me Bert? 34 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 6: Call me out, call me out, call me ol cause 35 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 6: poor Simon. 36 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 5: That's it. 37 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, Now what are we going to start with? Let's 38 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 6: start off with this weather because I love the weather 39 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 6: and I love the fact that it's raining, and there 40 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 6: would be a lot of a guess around the state 41 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 6: who would be with me and be happy to see 42 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 6: this rainfall, and they are the farmers. 43 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 7: Well, as long as it is falling in the right spots, 44 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 7: and I haven't been able to figure out quite yet 45 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 7: if it is. Is it falling right across the entire state, 46 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 7: has it been in the patches that need the most, 47 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 7: and is it falling at good enough time? 48 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 5: My weather app which is very accurate, tells me it's 49 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 5: going in the right places. So hopefully that's backed up 50 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 5: soon because we're going to get some answers that one. 51 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 7: Well, I hope so, and I mean I think that 52 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 7: the farmers are the ones that want the well, will 53 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 7: know what's going on, whether they're getting enough in the 54 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 7: rain gage and whether it's is it coming at the 55 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 7: right time to help things or is it going to 56 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 7: hold off some of the some of the emergency, some 57 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 7: of the drama. 58 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 5: That's the same map I've got. 59 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's very good. Out to the western side of 60 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 6: the state, Gippsland area not so flash. 61 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 7: But look in northern parts. Are the northern parts get no? 62 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 6: Not in the minute? 63 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 5: Well, apparently this you need to top up the water 64 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 5: table because the initial rain after a drought just out 65 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 5: of the bottom and that does much good when you 66 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 5: want the roots of whatever you're trying to grow. So 67 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 5: the water table has to slowly be built up. So 68 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 5: this is a nice start DJ, but we need more. 69 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 7: Not that we can actually control it in any way, 70 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 7: shape or form. But how much more do you need? 71 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, if you're down in Geelong, maybe you're on the 72 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 6: land and you'd like to call us one double three 73 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 6: six nine three? How has it been is it? When underfoot? 74 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 6: Are you happy? 75 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 5: What happened to our distillery plan anyway. I think it 76 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 5: costs us what a million bucks a day to get 77 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 5: it running or something crazy. Have we worked out a 78 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 5: way to pipe some seawater that's been distilled to the 79 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 5: drought ravaged areas because now we can't. That's why we 80 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 5: built it right for freshure. 81 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 7: We built it for Melbourne's water supply. We built it 82 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 7: for Melbourne's water supply. It comes into Melbourne's water supply, 83 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 7: but it doesn't go any further. Well, it goes to Geelong, 84 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 7: but it doesn't go any further than that. There's no 85 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 7: big pipeline or would you think there'd be a tap. 86 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 7: You could just back some trucks up to load them 87 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 7: up and take. 88 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 5: Them with That'd be a nice project perhaps in the 89 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 5: future to drought proof the state, to actually get a 90 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 5: pipeline out to a few of these areas. 91 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 7: Given that we build a de cel plant so much 92 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 7: bigger than we needed to at the time. It's huge 93 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 7: roll it can can pump out an enormous quantity of water. 94 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 7: It was criticism at the time it was three times 95 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 7: larger than it needed to be at three times the price. Well, 96 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 7: we'll crank it up to full capacity and pop a 97 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 7: few extra piles around, run a few extra pipes around state. 98 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 6: There's a place up north called the Ord River, which 99 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 6: is bigger ten times bigger or something than the city 100 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 6: harbor fresh water. You could pipe that down that Jeff South, 101 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 6: remember what happened to that river? 102 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 5: Why wouldn't we just build one pipe to that river 103 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 5: and then that river becomes the artery for everything else 104 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:41,799 Speaker 5: and you could. 105 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 6: Grow crops right across the continent. Project dry, No, apparently 106 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 6: it doesn't the old river. 107 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 5: What would you prefer that? Or what was the green 108 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 5: thing they were going to make the city is going 109 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 5: to be a nice little walk line, the green line. 110 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 5: I reckon I'd like to see a start on the 111 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 5: on the pipeline rather than. 112 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 7: The green will pipes around the place. I wonder why 113 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 7: we can't can't. 114 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 5: I don't talk out of school, but I reckon there'll 115 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 5: be more droughts down the track. I reckon they will 116 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 5: be history. 117 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 7: That's just my best instagram, is there? 118 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 5: I reckon there may well be more droughts to come. 119 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 6: We have a call someone who is known to this 120 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 6: station very well because she's passionate about her town. Her 121 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 6: name is Helen, and she's calling from Nil Helen, Good 122 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 6: morning to you. 123 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 8: Good morning and crew. How good it is to talk 124 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 8: to you. The sun shining this morning. But yesterday we 125 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 8: had thirty meal and today this morning I measured eleven 126 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 8: and we've had lovely rains up here. Part of your 127 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 8: idea just hits the ground and it just drives out. 128 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 8: We needed a few inches up here. 129 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 7: Is going to Is it filling the tanks? 130 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 8: Well, yes, it is at the tank for gurgling away. 131 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 8: They're going for their life, I think, But have do 132 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 8: that and water provided to us here from the Grampians 133 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 8: and that all comes up in pipes and so forth. 134 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 4: But people still. 135 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 8: Do have their tanks and they're rainwater and so forth. 136 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 8: But you know, it's lovely for the garden up here too. 137 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 8: I'm sorry farmers, but it's good for them, for our gardens. 138 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 8: They just you know. And another thing too, is when 139 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 8: you're driving along and you'll see a clouds dust out 140 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 8: in the paddocks, you'll think, oh, that poor devil is 141 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 8: trying to crop at so in seed. 142 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 5: Does the area greenup? Does the area green up automatically 143 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 5: with a little bit of rain like this, or does 144 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 5: it still look dry? 145 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 9: Oh? 146 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 8: Yes, look I'm looking forward to going down south to 147 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 8: the little desert, which is ten kilometers south of Nil Darren. 148 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 8: And I'm sure in a few week time, all a 149 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 8: few days even that the green will start coming through. 150 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 8: Remember we had all the bush fires in our little desert, 151 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 8: lone got burnt down. Yeah, completely, well that I think, 152 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 8: you know, if we get more rain on top of 153 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 8: what we've just had, we will certainly see lovely green 154 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 8: shoots coming through as mother nature does. 155 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 6: Excellent. And how's the reception place in Nil? It's called 156 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 6: the zero in Isn't that a wonderful name for a Nil, 157 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 6: isn't it? 158 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 10: Yeah? 159 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 8: Still going to new people and it's managing it. Yes, 160 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 8: So that's still going well. And we've got other motels, 161 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 8: of course, and we've got a wonderful camping ground with 162 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 8: brand new cabins. 163 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 6: Yeah. And what about the Vietnamese place, the new joint. 164 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 6: We can get a barmee on the way through, mister 165 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 6: Lee on the way through Adelaide. 166 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 8: Art Nil, not only to see me, but to see 167 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 8: mister Lee. 168 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 5: Hey, are there any other places in Nil that play 169 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 5: on the word Nil, like you know, the zero? Have 170 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 5: you got like nowhere Land or anything like that? 171 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 11: Well? 172 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 8: Apparently on the way between Dimbulla and Nil there's a 173 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 8: road called never now Never Never wrote, I think it's 174 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 8: called that. Just check it out on the Google correct me. 175 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 8: But it is a strange one. 176 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 7: That one too is indeed, I never never write. 177 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 6: She's passionate about her city or a town of mill 178 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 6: and it's a great spot when you do want to 179 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 6: stop off. And great bakery there two silling meat piss 180 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 6: you through mil oh well, you know I used to 181 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 6: get around there through mister Lee and he's Vietnamese. 182 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 5: Is the local bakery called like nothing here bakery? The 183 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 5: absolutely they should. 184 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 7: Past pink lanked pink Lake, Dimbula and then your next left, 185 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 7: your next major left is never. 186 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 6: Never love it. 187 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 5: I went past that lake and it was indeed pink 188 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 5: pink when I went past. Sometimes it's not apparently, but 189 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 5: I went past, and I was telling the kid, I 190 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 5: was going to listen you too, look out the window 191 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 5: because it's going to be a pink lake out here. 192 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 5: And it was big. 193 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 6: Thanks Helen, love you call to Peter. Good morning, Good Peter. 194 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 12: With the I wish I. 195 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 13: Could dig up some video of Daniel Andrews and Lisa 196 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 13: Neville and when the drought was on which directed or reporters, Oh, 197 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 13: this is back when we're in two thousand, when when 198 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 13: I was buying all the water changs and stuff like that. 199 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 13: What happened was this The reporter asked Daniel Andrews wanted 200 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 13: we build more dams, and he had a bit of 201 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 13: a smart man at the answer said, oh, it's got 202 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 13: a rain. 203 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 7: Before that happened, I'm gonna I'm going to correct you 204 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 7: on a couple of things there, Peter. The person was 205 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 7: John Brumby. The reporter asking the question was me, Yeah, oh, 206 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 7: why don't we build some more dams. Well, you need 207 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 7: you need the rain to come out. Yeah you needed 208 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 7: to rain, yeah, no doubt, but you need to have 209 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 7: the dam to catch the rain. It was the most 210 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 7: bizarre exchange we'd ever had. I think it was premiere 211 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 7: at the time, so it would have been late two thousands. 212 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 13: There were people pretty I'm pretty sure there was Daniel 213 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 13: Anders and Lisa Neville was standing side by side. 214 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 7: They're going to it would have been Dan would have 215 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 7: been health minister or gaming minister or something. 216 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 5: I believe you, Heidi. I believe you, Heidi. 217 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 6: Thanks Peter. If you're on the land or if you 218 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 6: have had a decent amount of rainfall and would like 219 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 6: to comment on the current situation. Please feel free. Ian 220 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 6: has messaged me and he says, don't forget the Windmill 221 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 6: Cafe in Caniva, which is another small town on the 222 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 6: road to Adelaide. That's his favorite windmill cafe. IV. 223 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 7: It's not as it's not as clever as the zero zero. Yeah, yeah, 224 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 7: that's pretty good. I mean, I'm sure the great the 225 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 7: food's great at the Windmill Cafe can Ivan. 226 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 6: Give us one double three six' nine. Three this is 227 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 6: A sunday morning In. Melbourne that is absolutely. Right it's 228 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 6: as plain as the nose on our. Face why didn't 229 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 6: we think of? 230 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 9: That? 231 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 6: Mark are you better than? That heidi has just come 232 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 6: up with a theory AND i think you're right That nick, 233 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 6: McCallum melbourne, supporter not a special. Assignment he's up the 234 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 6: snow the rest of His melbourne. 235 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 5: Supporters it makes too much, sense. 236 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 7: Doesn't the snow started. Falling he's out of, town. 237 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 6: He's in the range. Rover he's on his skis as we, 238 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 6: speak going Down Burke. 239 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 5: Street that's, right just With melbourne scarf. On they've got 240 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 5: their cheeseboards. Ready for the evening by the, fire. 241 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 7: You go where the. Support if the other supporters, go 242 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 7: you go hang out Well, hoppe he enjoys the. Weekend stay, Warm, 243 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 7: Nick stay. 244 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,719 Speaker 6: Warm, nick don't get any chill blames join us? Now 245 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 6: Is Brett, Hosking president of The Victorian Farmer federation and 246 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 6: farmer From Kwombartook qwombi birthplace OF i Think Molly meldrum 247 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 6: And John. WILLIAMSON i stand to be, Corrected. Brett how 248 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 6: good's this? Rain are you? Happy? 249 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 11: Yeah no it. 250 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 12: Is it's a really good rain and it's a really 251 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 12: good start to exactly what our farmers need going. Ahead 252 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 12: and yes we are well Hope molly was born In, 253 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 12: kwombertook But John williamson definitely. Was molly's got a bit 254 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 12: of his. 255 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 13: Years, well it's a nice. 256 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 5: Start how much more rain do you? Need? 257 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 12: Oh keep it, Coming i'll send it. Down, LOOK i 258 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 12: don't want to Upset nick and His melbourne supporter, mates 259 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 12: but if the snows washed, out. 260 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 7: Here's it right across the, State, brett in the spots 261 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 7: that need it? Most or is there still a few 262 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 7: areas not getting any? 263 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 14: Yet? 264 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 12: Yeah, look there'd be a few areas saying they haven't 265 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 12: got what they, wanted but everyone has got. Something so 266 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 12: the really the areas of the state that we're really 267 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 12: feeling effects at a droughts at a southwest in, particular 268 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 12: we've seen some really good falls down there are ideally 269 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 12: hopefully it's created a little bit of runoff and got 270 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 12: some water into, storages but most importantly it's terminated seed 271 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 12: in the. Paddock so we'll start that growth cycle now the, 272 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 12: long long road to go because we're in the middle of, 273 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 12: winter and like all of, us we all get a 274 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 12: bit slower in winter because it's cold and, wet and 275 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 12: plants are no. Different so unfortunately that recovery to sort 276 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 12: of pass it it's ready to graze is probably going 277 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 12: to be something into the tune of ten to twelve, 278 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 12: Weeks so we've got a long journey ahead and we've 279 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 12: still got to fill that feed gap in. Between but 280 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 12: it's a great, start. 281 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 7: Is that ten to twelve weeks to you, know if 282 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 7: it's if it's been enough and in the right, spots 283 00:12:55,320 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 7: or that's just till this next week grows until it. 284 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 12: Gets to the sort of a height that is grazable 285 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 12: by particularly cattle they like a little bit more length in, 286 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 12: it to be, sure but you, know in that, PERIOD 287 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 12: i guess that period's going to be determined by what 288 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 12: weeaver we get, again don't want tomuck up The melbourne 289 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 12: supporters in their. Snow maybe it's better they win the 290 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 12: footy and all stay In, melbourne miss out on the 291 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 12: snow and we get some, warm, nice, warm mild winter 292 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 12: which will encourage that growth even. 293 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 5: Faster and what about attitude chains at the, locals, MAN 294 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 5: i imagine that's really, important just to get everyone smiling 295 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 5: again and a bit of enthusiasm back and a bit 296 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 5: of hope that they'd be looking. For. 297 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 12: YEAH i, mean that's the biggest benefit of this. Rain 298 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 12: is it just for the well? Being and you know 299 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 12: that mental peace of mind that we all, feel you, 300 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 12: know instead of sitting there thinking about when will it? 301 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 12: Rain it's, like, okay we've got that. Start we can 302 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 12: see the pastures starting to, recover we can see our 303 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 12: farms and our businesses starting to. Recover we're certainly not there, 304 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 12: yet but we've just turned that little mental cob just 305 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 12: that little bit more in our. Favor and that's a 306 00:13:58,440 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 12: really important first step. 307 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 7: Too is there a worry at? All breadth that people 308 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 7: like us are sitting here In. Melbourne the rain's coming 309 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 7: out of the. Sky we're, like great drought must be. 310 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 7: Over job. Done that lose some of the momentum that 311 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 7: you've built up too in terms of awareness of what's 312 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 7: going on and the need for help and for. ASSISTANCE 313 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 7: a bit of rain doesn't fix everything. 314 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 12: Immediately, Yeah, LOOK i think one Thing i've got to 315 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 12: say is our counterparts In, melbourne like you, know the 316 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 12: Average melbourne person or urban dweller who doesn't understand, farming 317 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 12: have been so incredibly in supportive Fruit is throughout period 318 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 12: and we've really got to pay credence to it because 319 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 12: it's just been. Incredible stations like three aw have been. 320 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 12: Amazing we're just keeping it on the. Radar so, yeah 321 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 12: there is a chance that some might think, that but 322 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 12: we're certainly grateful for all the support that they've shown 323 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 12: so far and we'd love to keep that support going 324 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 12: and also that understanding of what rural life is, like 325 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 12: because one thing we always love in country areas is 326 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 12: people ask us what we do and why we do, 327 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 12: it and we love farmers love talking about. FARMING i 328 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 12: can tell you right in, there even when things are. 329 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 12: Tough they love to talk about what they do at a. 330 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 7: Party wouldn't be told to shut? 331 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 12: Up, sorry was. 332 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 14: At a? 333 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 12: Party you won't get them to shut IF i can 334 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 12: tell you. 335 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 5: What about government. Support we know they've been visiting just of. 336 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 5: Late you don't want that tap turned off anytime, SOON 337 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 5: i imagine. 338 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 12: No and that won't turn off because our job is 339 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 12: to stay. There we've got a brilliant relationship at the 340 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 12: moment with The victorian state. Government they do see, us 341 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 12: they do see the, problem and they do want to. 342 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 12: Help there's been some steps in the right, direction but 343 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 12: their starters and even the government themselves admit that they 344 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 12: not as a big challenge, ahead big task, ahead calling 345 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 12: on federal counterparts to get involved. Too wouldn't it be 346 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 12: great to see our prime minister and our administer down 347 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 12: here getting an understanding of what's happening In. Victoria so you're. 348 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 2: Welcome please. 349 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 12: Come we'll cook up a vanilla slice and a cup 350 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 12: of coffee and make you most. Welcome, yeah, Yeah, look 351 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 12: the government have been really, good but there is a 352 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 12: lot more to be, done and we'll be reminding of 353 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 12: them them of, that and we'll be looking for those 354 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 12: next steps. 355 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 7: There your task force has started. 356 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 12: Meeting, yes we had our first meeting On friday In 357 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 12: camperdown AND i think WHEN i walked out it it 358 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 12: started raining and it was freezing, cold but that was 359 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 12: a good sign for the locals. THERE i think there 360 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 12: might have even been a bit of watering from a 361 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 12: fire truck from WHAT i heard, one SO i understand it. Occur, Yes, 362 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 12: yeah it was a really it was a really robust 363 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 12: and honest and frank conversation around exactly what people are 364 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 12: seeing in their. Communities and you, know we had The premier, 365 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 12: there we had the Ag, minister we had The Water, 366 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 12: minister we had The Parliamentary secretary For Regional, victoria and 367 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 12: they all heard first hand about the real impacts about 368 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 12: what's happening on, farms also about what's happening in, towns 369 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 12: what's happening to people's well being through this, drought and 370 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 12: so it was a really good. Conversation there was a 371 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 12: lot of shared, learnings a lot of. Understanding and just 372 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 12: before THAT i was on farm in Darren allen with 373 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 12: The premier and she heard firsthand from three brilliant farmers 374 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 12: who had you, know what if you're outside of drought 375 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 12: and you, said what have we got to do to 376 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 12: prepare for? Drought these guys had done it textbook, right 377 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 12: and all three of them, said you know, What we're 378 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 12: going to be in trouble in a month or. Two 379 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 12: AND i think that really hit home to the. Premier, yeah, Hey. 380 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 6: Brett so so, far so. Good not knowing anything about 381 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 6: farming up At, quombie what are we planning? Now and? Why? 382 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 12: SO i mean grain farmers as we trust the seasons 383 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 12: and we trust our. Systems SO i would say most 384 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 12: of the crop Across victoria is already in the ground. 385 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 12: Dry on my place we had about thirty percent, germination 386 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 12: so this will see the rest of it come. Up 387 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 12: we just hit around ten mill at. Home so we've 388 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 12: got lentils in lentils because everybody loves their. Lentils we've got, 389 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 12: Canala we've got, Wheat we've got. Barley we've even got 390 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 12: oat because everybody loves their oak milk glass a. 391 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 5: Too, Hey, brett just last one kind of whimsically talking 392 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 5: before about the details center down in One, thingki just. 393 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 5: Whimsical is that sort of water any good for? Farming because, 394 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 5: PERSONALLY i would prefer some pipelines built out to the 395 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 5: people who produce our food than the train line From 396 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 5: cheltenham to Box. 397 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 15: Hill. 398 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 12: Yeah, Look i'm not going to speculate on whether we 399 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 12: should be building train lines or, pipelines but we do 400 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 12: need our. Pipelines and, yeah look that would the water, works, 401 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 12: yep stock and domestic absolutely making sure there's valuable water 402 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 12: for so much of our livestock and our farmers and 403 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 12: even in some cases we're hearing stories of farmers who 404 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 12: are cutting water just so their kids can have a 405 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 12: shower or flush a toilet and, that and so we 406 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 12: do need to do a better job of our water 407 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 12: infrastructure in this, state and the droughts highlighted that and 408 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 12: sort of presented those strategic opportunities that over the next few. 409 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 12: Years if we ignored, them then we're. Full we really 410 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 12: need to be learning from what we're seeing at the 411 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,959 Speaker 12: moment and making sure next time it happens and we've 412 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 12: a changing, climate it will that we're so much better. 413 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 7: Prepared, yeah but you, know governments like to take long 414 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 7: term approaches for things like transport, infrastructure but you reckon 415 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 7: anyone's keeping an eye on. This the strategic needs future 416 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 7: needs for pipelines across the. 417 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 12: STATE i, mean, Yeah i'm reminding them pretty. Hard and 418 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 12: we were already beginning those conversations with, Government so this 419 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 12: is kind of us walking into government, saying you know 420 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 12: what we told you so, guys, so which we're not 421 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 12: quite like. 422 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 7: That come, on you know you're right to say. 423 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 12: That, yeah but there. 424 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 5: Will be more, droughts weren't. There there are going to 425 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 5: be more. 426 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 12: Droughts, absolutely a changing climate tells us we're going to 427 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 12: face more, challenges but there are also the opportunities in 428 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 12: that if we learn how to manage. Them, well so 429 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 12: that's the. Secret whatever we learn from, this we need 430 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 12: to take, it apply, it and use it and we'll 431 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 12: manage better next. Time but, yes there will be more 432 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 12: challenges for. 433 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 6: Sure did you see many snakes over the warmer months this? 434 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 12: Year there were a few kicking. Around we've got a 435 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 12: few too many cats kicking around our. House so they gave him. 436 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 5: Away the feral. 437 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 12: Cats, well they keep the snakes at. Bay, yes, Yeah, 438 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 12: LOOK i think they're renowned for having a bit of 439 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 12: a bit of a go at the. Snake so, yeah 440 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 12: which is a handy. 441 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 6: Without getting, bidden there are a few kicking. 442 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 12: Around, yeah the. 443 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 6: Cats don't get, Bitten, no cat's a. 444 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 7: Genius that's a crazy. 445 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 14: Man. 446 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 7: Crazy. 447 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 5: Yeah my dad had his farm In, darnham used to 448 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 5: have A farmi he passed, on but he had a 449 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 5: couple of cats and they would bring all kinds of 450 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 5: things back to. Him it's almost like an offering people 451 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 5: who look after. Them they'd bring snakes back and mice 452 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 5: back and all kinds of things. 453 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 6: Back we went away for two days in big, wears 454 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 6: were greeted with three beheaded ringtail possums lined up in 455 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 6: lined up in a line in the back. Out we 456 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 6: thought there was someone that hated, us that had done it. 457 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 6: Deliberately it's a. Present it was like the killing fields 458 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 6: that was. 459 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 5: Awful he ate the heads, First would that be, Right? 460 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 12: Brett, yeah it could be. Cats whilst we all love 461 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 12: a pet. Cat, yeah they can do a bit of 462 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 12: our world life at, time. 463 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 6: Life on the. LAND i can't get enough of A. 464 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 6: BRETT i must come up and say hello to you one. 465 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 5: Day what do you? 466 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 6: Reckon how many you got up? 467 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:17,719 Speaker 5: There you're all. 468 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 12: Welcome we'll put the kettle on and, yeah come up 469 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 12: at east of. Time we've got the track to pull 470 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 12: up at combatok oh yeah that will be everyone needs. 471 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 7: The show from The Tractor pull weekend, yep. 472 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 12: Eas To, saturday so we'll book you. 473 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 6: In we should do. 474 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 7: That we should definitely do. 475 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 6: That Thanks. Brett good to talk to you and keep. 476 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 6: On let's hope it keeps on raining for. 477 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 12: You, absolutely, thanks thanks for having us one really appreciate. 478 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 6: It so they're, good aren't? They, well it's what Is? 479 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 7: Brett still? There bring you? Back give Us brett, Back. 480 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 6: BRETT i hang on a, tractor pull the tractor. Along 481 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 6: what's a tractor, Pull? 482 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 12: Brett tractor pool is where you you take all them 483 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 12: only it's in your bank account and you completely modify 484 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 12: a tractors out can something completely useless on the, land 485 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 12: but you see how quickly and how fast you can 486 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 12: pull a big heavy weight along the. TRACK i love, 487 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 12: it right, Yeah but if you're into, motorsports it's a. 488 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 7: Lie so you sleep up the. Tractor you're not actually 489 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 7: pulling the. Tractor you sweep up the tractor so, that, yeah. 490 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:21,479 Speaker 12: You, know you make it as hot as you, can 491 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 12: right yeahs tractor. 492 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 7: Honst it was the one where you're pulling the tractor. 493 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 7: ALONE i thought it. 494 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 5: Was a tractor tug of. War one tractor taking on 495 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 5: another and. 496 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 6: Good luck with your lentils, Too. 497 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 12: Brett, no no worries at all for A lentel. 498 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 6: Burger, okay Thanks. Brett do you know the difference between 499 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 6: the chickpean and. Lentil i'll tell you during the. Break 500 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 6: and To, paul good, Morning. 501 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 4: Yeah good morning. 502 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 16: Team when the d cell plant was, BUILT i think 503 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 16: back in twenty twelve from, Memory i'm just. WONDERING i 504 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 16: noticed over the last few years there there seems to 505 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 16: be media reports on the water cat and how they're 506 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 16: down low sort of. Stuff should that be getting any 507 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 16: report or exhaustion at. 508 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 12: All as far as publicity is. 509 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 16: Concerned when they've got we spend thirty two, billion that 510 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 16: should be always topped. 511 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 14: Up we shouldn't see that as a report in the. 512 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 12: Media what do you think on? 513 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 7: That, yeah we do put occasional orders. IN i think 514 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 7: we ordered fifty gig leaders this current this coming financial 515 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 7: year to top up those. Supplies so they do put 516 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 7: in little. Orders it's never, run as far As i'm, 517 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 7: aware at it's full, capacity which is one hundred and 518 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 7: fifty gigs a. Year it's never run at full capacity 519 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 7: or one hundred and twenty. Five but we are ordering 520 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 7: bits we are ordering bits and pieces from. 521 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 5: It, yeah but to, me if you've built the pipeline 522 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 5: from One thagy it bomb proofs our food. Supply it 523 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 5: also bomb proofs our imports to other places around the. 524 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 5: World so it's a it would be a very worthwhile. 525 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 7: Project so the pipeline does already connect To melbourne's water, 526 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 7: storage is it just needs to go further afield. 527 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 5: From there going somewhere. 528 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 6: Else canet's passion WHEN i had him on about a 529 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 6: month ago on This sunday morning, hour he said that 530 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 6: if you irrigated the top part Of, australia there Would 531 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 6: australia would be the food capital to supply enough food 532 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 6: for the rest of the world and. 533 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 5: Itself isn't that? Amazing and how much of? Warproof how 534 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,959 Speaker 5: much rain do they get up In queensland that just 535 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 5: ends up floating to the ground into the, GROUND i, 536 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 5: mean or if you could just do, that it would be. 537 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 5: Remarkable Thanks. 538 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 6: Paul To, steve good, Morning. 539 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 17: Yeah good. 540 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: Morning. Better on the, pipelines the detail one just goes. 541 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: UP i think Cardiny A creek reservoir, now the One 542 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: rumby was, built the one from The North south pipeline 543 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: Form Lake eilden When Lake eildon only had twelve percent 544 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: of water in it and they were starving the. Farmers 545 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: then they built one From Lake eilden over To Waranger 546 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: basin to top up that over your rush and then they. 547 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 1: Topped then they built From rushworth out To bendigo and 548 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: then they put one. DOWN i think it goes down 549 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 1: In geelong as, well to try and chop up all 550 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: those water. Supplies but if they were to Something i'd 551 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: come up with years, ago if they were to tap 552 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 1: into The Odd river scheme and run pipes down to The, 553 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: Adelaide melbourne And, sydney they would drought Proof australia and 554 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 1: look at all the agriculture they could make it in the. 555 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 17: Middle i'm on. 556 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 5: Board, instead we're building train lines from The Box. 557 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 14: Hill it's ridiculous to run the water through that. 558 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 7: Tunnel can you remember a plug the pipeline campaign a while, 559 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 7: back like. 560 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 6: A plug the? 561 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 7: Pipe but what was that? One was that The North 562 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 7: south pipeline from The gulban down To. 563 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 6: Melbourne that plug That, yeah they call it The South south. 564 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 1: Pipe he can't run we can't pump the water up. Here, 565 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: yeah now they that was actually closed down When Ted 566 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: bailey became, premiere first thing he did he said south. 567 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 7: Five but so it's still, there, Right SO i mean 568 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 7: is it being concreted? Over could it? 569 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 5: Be? 570 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 7: REALLY i mean that's just to bring, water as you, 571 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 7: say from the north to the. South it doesn't go 572 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 7: where you can't reverse engineer it to go back up. 573 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 13: Here where's the Old? 574 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 5: River where is? 575 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 6: It North? North it's in the top Of Northern. 576 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 5: Territory so how long is the pipeline from? Today it's 577 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 5: From Western australia the top. 578 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 6: Part, yeah up. Corner it's a long. Pipeline but it 579 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 6: can be. 580 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 5: Done this it can be. 581 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 6: Done they built The Great wall Of china once and 582 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 6: they built THE Trd tarmak From perth To. Melbourne you 583 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 6: can do things in the modern. 584 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 5: World you can so you're not worried about killing the 585 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 5: jumping beetle somewhere along the. Way that's, right that gets 586 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 5: puts it views behind. 587 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 6: Certain protective grounds on the way you go around, them 588 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 6: and you're. Right do you enjoy? 589 00:26:58,520 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 7: It how long is this pipeline going to be? 590 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 5: Long we could be the richest country in the whole 591 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 5: world if we did. This thanks to our. 592 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 7: We could just use the detail plant that we've. Got 593 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 7: crank it right, up crank it up and pump it 594 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 7: around the. Place just In. VICTORIA i forget the other 595 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 7: states and The Ord river whatever. That just use what we. 596 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 5: Got we're, jacking but it actually could. Be we could 597 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 5: be the richest country in the. World we've got the 598 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 5: uranium coming out of our. Nose we got, That we've. 599 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 6: Got so, much so much food that we. 600 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 5: Grow we've got gas everywhere we Got you do What jeff, 601 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 5: Says let's let's feed the. 602 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 6: World feed the, world THANKS, U steve to. 603 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 5: Gather let's build a train line. 604 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 6: Instead good, morning. 605 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 14: Kiddy. 606 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:35,959 Speaker 9: Guys you. 607 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 11: Can't you can't take water from the one part Of 608 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 11: australia and put in another part Of australia without effecting the. 609 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 11: Environment you take all the water from the, north you 610 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 11: decimate the prawn, industry the fishing industry and everything else that. 611 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 11: Floods that floods up there for a, reason and that's 612 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 11: that's what keeps the environment going up. There and, also 613 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 11: if you want to pump it, down the electricity costs 614 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 11: for the pump stations and, everything we make it. 615 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 5: Unviable hang and hang and hang on a. Second when 616 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 5: we're saying put water up. There that's just to go 617 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 5: on the. Farms it's not to go in other estuaries 618 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 5: or lakes or anything like. That that is the. Farmland 619 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 5: how does that effect? Fishing, sorry how does that affect? 620 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 5: Fishing because when. 621 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 11: You have the the wet season up, there that's what 622 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 11: generates the brooding season for the fish and. Everything when 623 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 11: all are the estuaries. 624 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 7: And everything, flood the environment statement would be IMMENSE. 625 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 5: I get, That but we're talking about just you, know 626 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 5: a little bit of water where it's required to grow 627 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 5: food like. 628 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 11: Cotton look how much water that uses a lot of, 629 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 11: water a lot. 630 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 6: Of, water and a lot of water in rice, too 631 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 6: isn't There, Garrett that's. 632 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 11: Right you can't do. It it's JUST i know it's everyone 633 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 11: would like. To you can't do it without ruining the 634 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,479 Speaker 11: environment or paying enormous costs for electricity for the pumps and. Stuff. 635 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 6: Thanks gary's To, paul good. Morning do you remember. 636 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 15: Chap of Rex? Connor, no like a party Like Rex 637 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 15: that is exactly what he was going to do back 638 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 15: in nineteen seventy, five and some like Rex connor. 639 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 12: Was he's a. 640 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 15: Member of The minerals and all that sort of Thing 641 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 15: Australian Labor party during The whitnam for some level Party 642 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 15: blake who had a bigger guard the side of the 643 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 15: block supply and that's you were looking At Rex CONNOR 644 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 15: i think it was his, name and he was going 645 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 15: to do all that sort of. Thing i've heard you 646 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 15: people known he THANKY i WAS i was ten and 647 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 15: you want to Know, Daryl Darryl. 648 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 7: Daryl looking him. Up there's something about him being the 649 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 7: central figure in The loan's. Affair what was That. 650 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 15: You're going to start thinking about stuff like. That that's all. 651 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 15: Politics we're talking about survival of the. 652 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 12: Country he was. 653 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 5: Legit straight to. Controversy look someone controversy the. 654 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 6: Loans now you talk Since, paul how old are? 655 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 5: You what? 656 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 6: Age fifty? 657 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 15: Nine tomorrow. 658 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 7: Relations and happy, Birthday darryl says happy birthday. 659 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 12: To, yeah thanks very. 660 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 15: Much, okay you're looking At rex fin he was he 661 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 15: was going to do all that. 662 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 7: Is the second thing that comes. 663 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 5: Up worry he's going to write a. Thesis she's got 664 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 5: that much On. 665 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 6: Rex and enjoy. Tomorrow because You're, paul you can do 666 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 6: anything you want to on your. Birthday at a quarter to, 667 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 6: eleven you may have heard earlier in the week that 668 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 6: the romance Between Donald trump And Elon musk has come 669 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 6: to an end in spectacular. 670 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 5: Fashion, WELL i reckon they'll get back. 671 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 6: Together, well if everyone's, saying, oh you could see that, 672 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,239 Speaker 6: coming but could? YOU i couldn't see it, coming. Though 673 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 6: as thick as thieves in The oval, office shoulders. 674 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 7: Throw a couple of egotists into one room and someone's 675 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 7: always going to come out. 676 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 6: Crying let's find out. More Associate Professor David, smith expert 677 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 6: In american politics and foreign and policy at The United 678 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 6: States Studies. Center he joins us on the line live From. 679 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 6: Sydney Associate Professor David american From. Sydney, yeah but THAT'S 680 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 6: alrighty can be In, Sydney. David is the problem here 681 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 6: that to the clash of? Egos, yeah there is. 682 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 2: A chinese saying that you can't have two tigers on 683 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 2: the one. MOUNTAIN i always thought it was remarkable That 684 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 2: trump was prepared to share the spotlight that much With 685 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 2: mask at. All and when you look at everybody else 686 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 2: In trump's, orbit they're all completely dependent on. 687 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 17: Him mask was. 688 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 2: Not musk always had an independent base of power and, 689 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 2: money so it was very unusual for the start from 690 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 2: the start that any president will give someone that much, 691 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 2: power let Alone, trump who hates sharing power and the 692 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 2: spotlight with. Anybody SO i think there was something inevitable 693 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 2: about this breakup from the. 694 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 14: Start so was. 695 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 5: The brief From elon's. Side was it just the subsidies 696 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 5: for electric vehicles that had been ripped from beneath his 697 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 5: feet that he's got the problem, with or is there 698 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 5: a few other? Things there were a few other. 699 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 2: Things one thing that Some american reporters are talking about 700 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 2: Is musk really wanted a friend and ally of, His Jeremy, 701 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 2: isaacman to be appointed head OF. Nasa and the reason 702 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 2: he wanted him was Because Jeremy isaacman is committed to 703 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 2: getting The United states To. Mars, now we might think 704 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 2: of that as a pipe, dream but It's Elon musk's dearest. 705 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 2: Ambition and, apparently on the last day Of musk's role 706 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 2: as a special government, advisor one of his enemies in 707 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 2: the administration went To trump with the information that this, 708 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 2: Guy Jeremy, isaacman had donated To democrats in the past 709 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 2: a cardinal then in the eyes Of rum. 710 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 7: Unforgetable, yeah and so. 711 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 2: On the very last day Of musk's, role that nomination was, 712 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 2: pulled AND i think that might have been the final 713 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 2: straw For. Musk there was other stuff going. On he 714 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 2: didn't like the, tariffs he was annoyed about pulling the 715 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 2: electric vehicle, subsidies but destroying the ambition of getting To. 716 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 17: MARS i think that was more than he could. 717 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 7: Take is it really done the ambition to get To? 718 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 3: Mars? 719 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 7: Ever THEN i, mean maybe there's ANOTHER nasa boss that 720 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 7: waited in the wings with a similar. Passion maybe it's. 721 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 2: Possible but if you think about the amount of energy 722 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 2: and resources it would take to get, there and THEN i, 723 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 2: mean what's the? Payoff, mars as far As i'm, aware 724 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 2: is pretty uninhabitable and it would take a huge another 725 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 2: set of resources to ever make it. HABITABLE i think 726 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 2: that we'd be better off trying to fix The, earth 727 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 2: as hard as that might. 728 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 7: Be, YEAH i, agree it feels more. 729 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 5: Achievable, well just the first, step isn't. 730 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 15: It, yeah. 731 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 5: To mars is just the first. Step AND i think 732 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 5: that's you, KNOW i, Reckon that's What elon wants credit, 733 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 5: for is that to just be. 734 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 7: In the history. Books is the guy that got. 735 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 17: The guy got it, Rolling i'm, sure, Yes, yeah that's 736 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 17: what he's got his eye. 737 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 7: On, yeah now he has deleted his. Tweet it seemed 738 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 7: like he was what did he call? It the bomb 739 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 7: he was? Dropping he drops a bomb Linking trump to 740 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 7: The epstein. Files he's now deleted that. Tweet what do 741 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 7: you put that down? 742 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 2: To, well first of, all it has been known for 743 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 2: a while That trump had an association With Jeffrey. Epstein 744 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 2: there are a lot of photos of. Him by claiming 745 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 2: that he was in The epstein files and that's why 746 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 2: they hadn't been. Released musk was making an, insinuation which 747 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 2: probably leads into defamation. Territory musk has a track record 748 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 2: of doing. This you may remember when that junior soccer 749 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 2: team was trapped in The Thai, Cave musk wanted to 750 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 2: stend down his own submarines to rescue, them but instead 751 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 2: they were rescued by accredited, divers And musk accused one 752 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 2: of the divers of being a, pedophile, completely, completely. Baselessly 753 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 2: so this is apparently one of his favorite go to, 754 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 2: Insults So i'm not surprised that he ended up deleting 755 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 2: that Because trump is very litigious when it comes to 756 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 2: things like, that and even by the standards Of american defamation, 757 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 2: law which are a lot higher Than, australia that could 758 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 2: have been leading him into. 759 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 5: Trouble, Actually, David i'm just at the moment listening To Joe. 760 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 5: Rogan he's talking To Cash, pattel who is the head 761 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 5: of THE, fbi and when they are in mid, Conversation 762 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 5: Joe rogan's, helper he actually, said, hey, listen this is 763 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 5: breaking right, now Elon, trump Elon trump bust up and 764 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 5: that The epstein files tweet had been. Dropped and immediately after, 765 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 5: That Cash, battel the head of THE, fbi said he's 766 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 5: got no access to any of those. Things, so, yeah 767 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 5: they knew, that they, knew they knew that it might 768 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,760 Speaker 5: have been just well you call it find a kite straight, away, 769 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 5: Yes AND i MEAN i imagine That mask probably got 770 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 5: that information from someone who posted it On. TWITTER i 771 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 5: don't think he's actually looked inside The Epstein files to find, 772 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,479 Speaker 5: that because this is another thing That musk often. Does 773 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 5: he amplifies really outlandish things that people say On twitter 774 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 5: if he likes the sound of. Them so he's got 775 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 5: a long track record of. 776 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 7: This strange bedfellows to start, with do you ever see 777 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 7: them getting back together? 778 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,879 Speaker 2: AGAIN i would not rule that possibility out at, all 779 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 2: BECAUSE i think they both need each. Other musk his 780 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 2: companies definitely need not just the tax, breaks but also 781 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 2: the enormous contracts that they get from The United states. 782 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 2: Governments that is the foundation of his. Wealth as far 783 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 2: As trump, goes there aren't many other pools of one 784 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 2: hundred million dollars sitting around to Help republicans in the 785 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 2: midterms next, year and they are going to need that. 786 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 2: Help and as much As trump uses true social a, 787 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 2: Lot twitter is still a far more powerful Or x 788 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 2: still a far more powerful and influential social media. Platform 789 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 2: SO i would not rule out a reconciliation BECAUSE i 790 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 2: think they do need each, other especially looking At trump's 791 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 2: reaction to, this he seemed reluctant to really get involved 792 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 2: in this slinging of insults with With, musk SO i 793 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 2: think a reconciliation is. 794 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 6: Possible good on your Associate Professor David, smith expert In 795 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 6: american politics and foreign policy at The United States Study. 796 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 6: Center if it's true That nick has just left us 797 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 6: for a ski trip with His melbourne, MATES i can 798 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 6: Feel Donald trump an elon musk falling, out coming falling 799 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 6: out between you and him and me. 800 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 5: Let me know in the first. 801 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 7: Place, well all, right thank, You. Marco he's a kind offer. 802 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 5: A SNOWBOARDING i imagine he's a. Snowboarder nick McCallum ski. 803 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:47,399 Speaker 7: SNOWBOARDING i can't. 804 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 5: See, no he'd think he was pretty. 805 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 7: Good what do you call that one where you walk 806 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 7: on like the tennis racket looking? 807 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 6: Things snow sleep snow that, Bushwalking. Mick it's almost. 808 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:07,879 Speaker 18: Eleven you're listening To Sunday morning on THREE A w 809 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 18: six nine. 810 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 6: Three we have plenty of calls that have been hanging 811 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 6: on before we get to. THEM i just want to 812 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 6: say THAT i Am Darren. James you Are Heidi. 813 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 7: Murphy sorry you won't pay, Attention Hidi. 814 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 5: MURPHY i could be hid if you're like, no and 815 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,839 Speaker 5: you Are mark Alrk, ellen that's. 816 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 6: Right and what we have in common is we both 817 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,879 Speaker 6: Have christian names as, surnames that's. Right and we both 818 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 6: went To kerry me your primary that's. 819 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 5: Right and we both beary For. 820 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 7: Colin you both followed the same football. 821 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,319 Speaker 6: Team, yes a lot in. 822 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 5: Common AND i also LIKE. Nasa oh do, yeah big 823 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 5: space personal. 824 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 6: Good we need to get together and talk about. 825 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 5: That THEN i don't think that's going to. 826 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 6: Happen, Okay i'm. 827 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 7: BUSY i cannot come to. 828 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:48,320 Speaker 5: That we support. 829 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 6: Guys more enticements For victorians to move away from gas 830 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 6: are being announced by The allen. Government four hundred dollars 831 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 6: discounts will be added to rebates available for efficient elect 832 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 6: hot water systems if households. Choose australian made joining us 833 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 6: now Is minister For energy And, Resources lily Dan. Brosia, 834 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 6: lily thanks for joining, Us. LILY i love, GAS i 835 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,879 Speaker 6: cook with, GAS i hate with. GAS i don't think 836 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 6: it's good that we're losing our. 837 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 10: Gas well we're not losing our. Gas but thank you 838 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 10: very much and good morning to all of you and your. Listeners, 839 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 10: look we know that there are better ways that people 840 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 10: can actually save money on their energy, bills and it's 841 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 10: really important that as a government we continue to support 842 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 10: Those victorians to make that. Switch this is not about gas. 843 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 10: Disappearing this is about having the most cost effective appliances 844 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 10: in your home that actually save your money on your 845 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 10: energy bills each and every. Day and CAN i just 846 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 10: say what's really important that the event is in just 847 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 10: in the previous, year we've had one hundred and fifty five, 848 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 10: percent and it is one hundred and fifty five percent 849 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 10: increase in the number of reb that victorims have applied 850 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 10: to get these, new updated and energy efficient electric water. 851 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 10: Systems now that tells you That victorians are seeing this 852 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 10: is a really great way to save money on their 853 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 10: energy bills and help with the costs of. 854 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:17,839 Speaker 5: Living so more and more people using electric are they 855 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 5: going to be all? Right because we keep on hearing 856 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,840 Speaker 5: that if we're going to go down the renewable's, path 857 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 5: that blackouts are. 858 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 10: Weight oh, no, look that's not the case at. All 859 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 10: and CAN i just, sure, yeah, no, Absolutely and CAN 860 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 10: i just say that the market, operator through an energy market, 861 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 10: operator is the agency at commwork level that makes sure 862 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 10: that every state right across the country there is sufficient 863 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 10: electricity to meet our needs at any one. Time that's 864 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 10: their job to do. That and that's why building more 865 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 10: renewable energy means that we have that additional supply that 866 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 10: we need to make sure that we can keep the 867 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 10: lights on into the, future but at the same time 868 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 10: save money on people's energy. Bills so there's a win 869 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 10: there on both then and having your. Electricity using your 870 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 10: electricity and often you can use it through your own 871 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 10: solar panels on your group to heat your hot water 872 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 10: can give you those really big savings off your energy. 873 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 10: Bills and it's all, reliable, reliable and we've had so 874 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,479 Speaker 10: Many victorians too already take up the. Rebate it tells 875 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 10: you that it, works, yes and it tells you that 876 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 10: the more and More victorians are discovering the benefits of 877 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 10: switching their old expensive gas for water systems to cheaper 878 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 10: to run electric, systems and we're helping them to meet 879 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 10: the upfront cost of doing. 880 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 5: That, well those words are very very, nice but in 881 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,360 Speaker 5: the future if everyone, switches or more and more people 882 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 5: switch to electric and then we do have those blackouts 883 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 5: that you're telling us will not, happen you, Understand victorians 884 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 5: will be really really. 885 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 10: Angry Oh we're to say to you that we're going 886 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 10: to need gas for a long time to, come but 887 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,319 Speaker 10: it's really. Expensive and that's why we're Helping victorians save 888 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,279 Speaker 10: money on their energy. Bills and one good way of doing, 889 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 10: that really important way that gives you that cost benefit 890 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,240 Speaker 10: that bill relieve is when your hot water systems reaching 891 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 10: its end of life as they do, that you look 892 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 10: at The victorian government rebates to help you get meet 893 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 10: the upfront costs because you're going to swap it out 894 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 10: anyway and start getting those bill favings from day. One 895 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 10: but from. Today we've also announced of course today is 896 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 10: that not only are we continuing with the one thousand 897 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:27,720 Speaker 10: dollars rebate into the next financial, year if you choose 898 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 10: An australian made, product you can get an extra four 899 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 10: hundred dollars on that. Rebate so The turins can still 900 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 10: have the one thousand dollars rebate by using by choosing 901 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,320 Speaker 10: systems that may be made, overseas but if they choose 902 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,439 Speaker 10: An australian made, one they'll get an extra four hundred 903 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 10: dollars on top of. 904 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 7: That from the first Of, July Australian Made minister know 905 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 7: what we. 906 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 10: Are going to be doing is making sitting down with 907 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:57,319 Speaker 10: the industry and unions to establish what the criteria will. 908 00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 10: Be there are systems that have come opponents that are 909 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,919 Speaker 10: made In. Australia some of them have water tank six 910 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 10: or water tank of unit that's made In. Australia others 911 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 10: will have the fans or other. Electricals so we'll sit 912 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 10: down and establish a pathway instead of criteria that is 913 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 10: easy to understand and can ensure that that benefit can 914 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 10: flow on to those people who choose those. 915 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 7: Products but i'mly only three weeks out from that start. 916 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,399 Speaker 7: POINT i, mean are you sure you can get together 917 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 7: with industry and sort this out that? Quickly? 918 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,839 Speaker 10: Absolutely and CAN i just say that we've already had 919 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 10: The Australian's Hot Water Manufacturer's alliance come out today really 920 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 10: raring to go to have those conversations and make sure 921 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 10: we're ready to go from the first Of. July and 922 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 10: it won't be hard to establish those. Criteria we've been 923 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,399 Speaker 10: assured of that by. Industry we'll sit down and work 924 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,920 Speaker 10: it through so that by the first Of, july whether 925 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,799 Speaker 10: you're applying for just the one thousand dollars rebate or 926 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 10: whether you're applying for the fourteen hundred dollars, rebate our 927 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 10: rebates will for you to provide savings For victorians and 928 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:07,400 Speaker 10: the uppront costs and getting those those daily savings off 929 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,760 Speaker 10: the energy. Bills an average how can save three hundred 930 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 10: dollars of the energy bill simply by using an electric 931 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,839 Speaker 10: and an energy fission electrical water. System so water takes 932 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 10: up about thirty percent of our energy use in the, 933 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 10: home so it's a really big saving For victorians every. 934 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,280 Speaker 7: Year, minister you must have a a like a threshold 935 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 7: Amount australian made that you'd like it to be. 936 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 5: Five? 937 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,320 Speaker 7: Percent LOOK i, mean or CAN i just thry a 938 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 7: sticker on? Anything do you know WHAT i? 939 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:35,839 Speaker 6: Mean? 940 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:37,880 Speaker 10: Oh, no, no, No, look you know it's going to be, 941 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 10: meaningful BUT i won't put a percentage figure on that. 942 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 7: High did you have to have a threshold, though like what's you're? 943 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 10: Starting there will be a Thresh, no, no there will 944 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 10: be a. Threshold will determine that with the. Industry but 945 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 10: it can include things like the actual water tank which 946 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,840 Speaker 10: makes up a good part of the build or assembly 947 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 10: of a. Product but it also could include things like 948 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 10: fans and electricals after. Serve this is also. Important but 949 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 10: we'll make sure and the, industry those that represent the 950 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,840 Speaker 10: big ones such As reem And renie And. Ducks you, 951 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 10: know there's the three big ones that manufacturer In australia 952 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 10: are really excited. 953 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,879 Speaker 7: Bodies i'm just skeptical you can get this start in three. 954 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,719 Speaker 10: Weeks oh, look there's already been some discussions that we've 955 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 10: had with the sector that actually come to us suggesting 956 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,760 Speaker 10: that we could do, this and you, know we're happy 957 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,400 Speaker 10: to say yes to it and we'll work through that. 958 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,799 Speaker 10: Criteria it will be, READY i assure Or victoria what. 959 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,720 Speaker 7: If they just put their prices up because It's australian. 960 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,840 Speaker 10: Made, Well, look it is a competitive. Market at the 961 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,760 Speaker 10: end of the, day people will look at these, products 962 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 10: whether they're made here or overseas and choose a product 963 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:50,959 Speaker 10: that fits their. Wallet and our rebates the thousand dollars 964 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 10: rebate at least or fourteen hundred plus is extra money 965 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 10: that comes in through THE vu program has about four hundred. 966 00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:01,359 Speaker 10: Dollars also that on top of those reboats that come 967 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 10: off the price of these, systems all of these go 968 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 10: towards making it easier For victoria's to make the switch 969 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,279 Speaker 10: to energy fish and electric appliances that are going to 970 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 10: save the money every. Day and that's what our objective. 971 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 4: Is and we're. 972 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 10: Absolutely confident that this will all be in place for 973 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 10: the first Of july and that will continue to provide 974 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,040 Speaker 10: these reboats that are really making a difference to people's 975 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:23,320 Speaker 10: cost of. 976 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 6: Living, minister thanks very much for joining us on this 977 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:30,120 Speaker 6: sort of, wintry, dark Wet. Sunday yeah it, IS i. 978 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,319 Speaker 10: Know but you know, what it is winter and we 979 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,920 Speaker 10: need the rain and hopefully it's also running in the 980 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 10: right parts Of. 981 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 6: Victoria excellent, Work thank you so. Much that's The minister 982 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,839 Speaker 6: For energy And resources for the state, Government Lily Dan. 983 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,279 Speaker 5: Brosio i'm not getting rid of my. 984 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,280 Speaker 6: GAS i love my gas. 985 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 5: Gas i'm getting rid of. GAS i love. 986 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 6: IT i cook on a gas we love to. 987 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:52,879 Speaker 7: Do at some, point if we, start if they start 988 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,080 Speaker 7: turning it all, off, eventually. 989 00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:01,319 Speaker 6: What are we going we run out Of we sell 990 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:01,919 Speaker 6: most of, it don't. 991 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,200 Speaker 7: We we do sell a fair. 992 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:07,360 Speaker 6: Bit, Yeah i's In japan, off, sure sure we. Do 993 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:09,919 Speaker 6: we sell it to them cheaper than what we pay 994 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 6: for it. 995 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,640 Speaker 5: HERE i think that's. RIGHT i Think japan actually sells 996 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 5: our gas at a. 997 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 7: Profit on sells, it not back to, us though surely. 998 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 5: Somewhere else to. Us wouldn't surprise, me it wouldn't surprise. 999 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:28,440 Speaker 6: Anybody sixteen past, eleven plenty of Calls haidi And Mark, 1000 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 6: adrian good, Morning. 1001 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 3: Good, morning good, morning. Guys, LOOK i just want to 1002 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 3: talk about the minister talking about how expensive gas. IS i, 1003 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:46,320 Speaker 3: mean they've created an artificial shortage that's inflated the, price 1004 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 3: and that's where we find. Ourselves but also just on 1005 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:56,040 Speaker 3: the on the, Rebate i've got quotes to replace my 1006 00:47:56,200 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 3: gas appliances with electric and it's the vicinity of about 1007 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:06,719 Speaker 3: thirty thousand. Dollars but, moreover because we live In, coburg 1008 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 3: there's just no room to put these, things so. 1009 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,240 Speaker 7: They haven't they're not sort of built to scale for smaller. 1010 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,440 Speaker 3: Houses well the heat pumps to a certain size and 1011 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,080 Speaker 3: they just won't. Fit so, YEAH i mean unless we 1012 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 3: put them out on the nature. 1013 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,880 Speaker 7: Strip is there a solution to? 1014 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 19: That is? 1015 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,480 Speaker 7: THERE i, mean surely they think of engineering something that 1016 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,799 Speaker 7: fits in a smaller space or a different sort of 1017 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 7: a different sort OF i, mean is that? 1018 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,680 Speaker 6: Possible Thanks adrian To, mark good, Morning. 1019 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,920 Speaker 14: Yeah good. Morning adrian took a bit of my thunder 1020 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:43,920 Speaker 14: with the artificial increase in price of gas and literally 1021 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,439 Speaker 14: saying we want to make our make it cheaper by 1022 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,840 Speaker 14: getting people across to. Electricity they're using yours and my 1023 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,799 Speaker 14: tax money to pay these subsidies to get people to 1024 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,239 Speaker 14: convert across the gas to, Electricity so it's not making 1025 00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:01,399 Speaker 14: it cheaper for me and for the bulk Of. Victorians 1026 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,280 Speaker 14: and why they've done this is no one was signing 1027 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:09,759 Speaker 14: up to their net zero, rubbish so they created artificially 1028 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 14: this increase in the price of gas In. Victoria Chris 1029 00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 14: bowen is doing it with the price of motor. Vehicles 1030 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:19,320 Speaker 14: no one's taking up, these so he's increased through these 1031 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 14: new emissions, figures is increasing the price of petrol driven. 1032 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:29,920 Speaker 14: Cars watch. It these people manipulate and force us to 1033 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:34,239 Speaker 14: go along with their ideology and at every step it 1034 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 14: costs us more, more more. More she needs to be 1035 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,759 Speaker 14: and they need to be challenged more mark by you. 1036 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 14: Guys you need to challenge her on that the reason 1037 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 14: gas is so. Expensive they had over ten years where 1038 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 14: they even banned exploration for gasing. 1039 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,400 Speaker 5: Pectoria, yes it's just. 1040 00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,880 Speaker 14: Ludicrous and the lies and rub that come out of 1041 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:01,719 Speaker 14: the mouths of these. 1042 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,960 Speaker 7: People well they say it's not. There they say they've 1043 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:05,719 Speaker 7: had a lot of scientific advice that it just wasn't, 1044 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,160 Speaker 7: there so there was no need to go digging for 1045 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:08,680 Speaker 7: something exploring for something that's not. 1046 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,960 Speaker 5: There the only people who say that are people on 1047 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 5: the left of. Politics there is a treasure trove of 1048 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,960 Speaker 5: human beings saying we have more guests than were know 1049 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 5: what to do with. 1050 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,799 Speaker 7: In WHY i actually and start digging for, it. 1051 00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,120 Speaker 5: That's, right and or fracking? It may you just go get? 1052 00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:27,200 Speaker 5: It we could be a, wealthy wealthy. STATE i REMEMBER 1053 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,600 Speaker 5: i think Cousin, JACINTA i think she was. Talking she, 1054 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,720 Speaker 5: said we're Not Western. Australia we can't just dig ourselves 1055 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 5: out of this. Debt i'll tell you. What we can 1056 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:36,600 Speaker 5: frack ourselves out of this. 1057 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,920 Speaker 7: Debt that willingness is just not. 1058 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,120 Speaker 5: There, yeah well that's got to. Change otherwise we're going 1059 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 5: to be paying the highest taxes in the country for 1060 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 5: a long long. 1061 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,279 Speaker 6: Time Thanks mark To. Paul good, morning. 1062 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:49,880 Speaker 14: Go. 1063 00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:54,400 Speaker 17: Heidi absolutely on the money, There. Heidi can you which bit. 1064 00:50:58,440 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 13: Go? 1065 00:50:58,600 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 1: On? 1066 00:50:58,719 --> 00:50:59,200 Speaker 6: Paul what we? 1067 00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,320 Speaker 17: Say sorry. 1068 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:04,600 Speaker 14: In the. 1069 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:09,280 Speaker 6: COUNTRY i think you're already on now he's gone. COMPLETELY 1070 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,880 Speaker 6: i like people Saying i'm, right he's very happy with your. 1071 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:18,080 Speaker 6: Work he's mixed. UP i don't know which. Bit so good, 1072 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:19,719 Speaker 6: Morning oh the. 1073 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:25,160 Speaker 19: MORNING i am absolutely bloody. Ropeable how dare she say 1074 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:31,319 Speaker 19: that electricity is more? Reliable lived somewhere outside of Suburban. 1075 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 19: Melbourne i'm in the foothills of The Daily. Knongs we 1076 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,960 Speaker 19: have our power go out up here our? Electricity what 1077 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,520 Speaker 19: have we? Got the only thing that we can actually 1078 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:45,600 Speaker 19: rely on for, heating half, walk water and cooking is. 1079 00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:51,360 Speaker 19: Gas we have nothing Otherwise we've, freezed, sorry we've freeze 1080 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 19: our tips. Off we have nothing to cook, on and 1081 00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:58,080 Speaker 19: we sit there with bloody. Candles, now come, on get. 1082 00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:03,840 Speaker 19: Real it isn't relying in all. Areas there's country. Areas 1083 00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,640 Speaker 19: there's us up here here in the damning nims At. 1084 00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,920 Speaker 19: Coppet you look at the number of times that we've 1085 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 19: had trees down or even a bloody possum take out a, 1086 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:17,560 Speaker 19: line and we are stuffed unless we have our gas 1087 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,080 Speaker 19: to be able to at least cook a, meal boil a, 1088 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:24,360 Speaker 19: cattle or you, know just simply have a have a 1089 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,319 Speaker 19: shower that it's. 1090 00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 7: Reliable are most people in? There that's all? Right so 1091 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,719 Speaker 7: are most people in the hills on on? Gas no 1092 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,600 Speaker 7: one would rely solely on electricity up. 1093 00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:38,279 Speaker 19: There there are a few that are solar, electricity but 1094 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,239 Speaker 19: it's not you, know those solar panels all that sort of. 1095 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:46,600 Speaker 19: Stuff but the, majority i would, say would have at 1096 00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:50,840 Speaker 19: least gas for a couple of. Things i'd say that 1097 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,200 Speaker 19: it'd have to be the seventy five percent range, athletes. 1098 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:55,880 Speaker 7: And would it be affordable for everyone to get solar 1099 00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,720 Speaker 7: panels and solar batter put, in and that'd be pretty 1100 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:00,600 Speaker 7: cop were heaving a heart of. 1101 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:04,640 Speaker 19: Film it because inhibited for. Starters if you're looking at 1102 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,759 Speaker 19: living in a wooded, area, okay you've got to look 1103 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,960 Speaker 19: at where the sun comes across your. Roof if you've 1104 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,120 Speaker 19: got trees around, you which is one of the reasons 1105 00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:18,960 Speaker 19: why you're In dannelong, ranges you're losing sunshineg you're losing. 1106 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 19: Power so you, know it's fine looking at this from 1107 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:29,320 Speaker 19: an urban, perspective look outside the. Box look at all, 1108 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:33,440 Speaker 19: areas not just the easy. ONES i Mean Philip. Island 1109 00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,960 Speaker 19: look At phillip Violand Philip island had the power taken 1110 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:41,320 Speaker 19: out to the whole island from a possum was a 1111 00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,080 Speaker 19: couple of years, back and it was just you, know 1112 00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,040 Speaker 19: sort of that was. Crazy and there was go back 1113 00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,719 Speaker 19: another ten years to that and a whole island was 1114 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:53,960 Speaker 19: out again because it couldn't cope with The New Year's. 1115 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,719 Speaker 19: Eve everybody was. There the whole lot went. Down if 1116 00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:02,200 Speaker 19: people didn't have, gas it's just. Crazy, fine that was, 1117 00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,360 Speaker 19: summer but you still couldn't cook or have a shower 1118 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,799 Speaker 19: if you wanted, to if you were solely, longer if 1119 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:10,799 Speaker 19: you were young gas and, yeah and if you're solely on, 1120 00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:14,200 Speaker 19: electricity you had. It and this is one of the worst. 1121 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,319 Speaker 19: Things when the power goes down our, here you feel 1122 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,440 Speaker 19: it's not an isolation. Thing it's, like Oh, god here 1123 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,160 Speaker 19: we go. Again and it's nice to be able to. Go, 1124 00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,319 Speaker 19: LOOK i can throw a tadle, on we can have 1125 00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:30,279 Speaker 19: a nice hot cup of tea doing electricity. 1126 00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,239 Speaker 7: Connected, yeah, well it's the same like you's, saying there's 1127 00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,760 Speaker 7: particular issues in the. Hills our earlier coler From. Coburgs 1128 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:37,120 Speaker 7: there's no room for me to put one of these 1129 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,880 Speaker 7: heat pumps. In there's just physically no room in my little. 1130 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:44,000 Speaker 7: House in these very inner urban like inner city suburbs 1131 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,000 Speaker 7: that will build with this little single. Front it's all 1132 00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:46,640 Speaker 7: up against each. 1133 00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:51,640 Speaker 5: Other who started this demonization against? Gas, yes who started? 1134 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,719 Speaker 5: It someone's adding and can they tell us how much 1135 00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,080 Speaker 5: it's going to affect the temperature if we all went to. 1136 00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,799 Speaker 5: ELECTRICITY i bet they. CAN'T i bet they. Bet they 1137 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:03,560 Speaker 5: bet they could not tell. 1138 00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,800 Speaker 6: Us at our old, place my favorite was deducted floor, 1139 00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,960 Speaker 6: recogditioning just a gush of hot air up between your 1140 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:14,400 Speaker 6: legs as you walk Over Jana Van. Beauty, yes we Call. 1141 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,200 Speaker 6: Alice i've told the story. Before alice got to the 1142 00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,439 Speaker 6: age of about. Thirty she Thought vince in the floor were. Called. 1143 00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,840 Speaker 6: No she was around her friend's place and the girls 1144 00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,279 Speaker 6: girl said put. It she, said put that wet, tail 1145 00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:33,120 Speaker 6: just put it over the. Yanna she. Said the thought 1146 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,200 Speaker 6: that events still going around school. 1147 00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:37,680 Speaker 5: Education, INDEED. 1148 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:43,880 Speaker 7: I don't know how quite how old she's still looking Delight, 1149 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,880 Speaker 7: well we just had association with. Her, ACTUALLY i have 1150 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,640 Speaker 7: My melbourne, well My Melbourne Press club had A she's 1151 00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,720 Speaker 7: She we've named an award after, her An International Reporting. 1152 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,600 Speaker 7: Awards so she did this beautiful video for us for 1153 00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:01,360 Speaker 7: The Quill awards back In. March stunning look still conspletely with. 1154 00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,319 Speaker 7: It delivered a beautiful speech that talked about not just 1155 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,080 Speaker 7: the glory, people the reporters up the, front but the 1156 00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:13,040 Speaker 7: entire teams that go into epic careers like, hers juices 1157 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:16,480 Speaker 7: and cameras and editors and all sorts of all levels 1158 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,200 Speaker 7: of just a phenomenal human. 1159 00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,160 Speaker 5: Being so you you Had billy picking on the back 1160 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,239 Speaker 5: of Your deathine. CODE i Had Phil carmen And heidi. 1161 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,960 Speaker 6: Is the perfumed. Steamroller that's. It at half past, Eleven, 1162 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,880 Speaker 6: paul good, Morning thanks. 1163 00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,600 Speaker 17: GUYS i apologies to the phone cut, out But heidi 1164 00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,000 Speaker 17: has WHAT i was. Saying there is not a hope 1165 00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,319 Speaker 17: in hell that they're going to pull us to get 1166 00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,920 Speaker 17: in three. Weeks there's just no. Way you, know you 1167 00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,319 Speaker 17: could just imagine a bureaucrat who wouldn't know a hot 1168 00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,279 Speaker 17: water system to his backside stand there going oh, yes 1169 00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,319 Speaker 17: that's that's. AGO i was An australian sticker on. It let's, 1170 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,400 Speaker 17: go and they got to be palming thousands of dollars, 1171 00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,280 Speaker 17: out tens of thousands of dollars out of tax payers 1172 00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,279 Speaker 17: money at the. 1173 00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,319 Speaker 7: Moment, well there's, ALSO i, mean there's been all manner 1174 00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,839 Speaker 7: of issues we, say The victorian energy upgrades and the 1175 00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,160 Speaker 7: raughting of the scheme has happened our dodgy operators in. 1176 00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:12,600 Speaker 7: THERE i think even with These australian made, materials there's 1177 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,120 Speaker 7: been reporting in the past of companies falsely claiming that 1178 00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:19,040 Speaker 7: They're australian made to pull it together in three. WEEKS 1179 00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:23,680 Speaker 7: i just know how. Happen these consultations. Work they normally 1180 00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,439 Speaker 7: run for freaking. Months if not a year to get 1181 00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:26,880 Speaker 7: these things. 1182 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,120 Speaker 17: Sorted you, know you know what it's like when you're 1183 00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,040 Speaker 17: dealing with a bureaucratic department to move something, Along it 1184 00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,640 Speaker 17: is just. Impossible it takes. Time this is just going 1185 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,280 Speaker 17: to take an allmoe amount of time AND i can 1186 00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,640 Speaker 17: see it runs through and there's going to get pressing 1187 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:39,120 Speaker 17: and all. 1188 00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:41,160 Speaker 6: The press has. 1189 00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,480 Speaker 7: Happened the press has. Happened it happened. Today that's why 1190 00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,280 Speaker 7: the minister was on the press has. Happened it's Starting july. One, 1191 00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,120 Speaker 7: apparently this is the same government that can't pull, together 1192 00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,480 Speaker 7: that needs look good six or eight months to pull 1193 00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:56,120 Speaker 7: together an exemption scheme for the machete, ban that takes 1194 00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,120 Speaker 7: six months to come up with some sort of scheme 1195 00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:01,280 Speaker 7: that who can buy and how can? Buy how can 1196 00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:02,880 Speaker 7: that take so? Long but this can be done in 1197 00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:04,080 Speaker 7: snap snaps with real. 1198 00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:07,000 Speaker 5: History following it. All you know better than. Most why 1199 00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:08,280 Speaker 5: do you? Reckon the sticker will be. 1200 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,439 Speaker 7: To Be australian mate has to be at least fifty. 1201 00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:16,120 Speaker 7: Percent you're just kidding, Yourself, Paul i'm just kidding. 1202 00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:17,640 Speaker 6: The vibe that you might like to head to the 1203 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,760 Speaker 6: palms to See Joe Camalary Dave gleesian from The Screaming 1204 00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,320 Speaker 6: jets And Jack jones From Southern sons And. Raths this 1205 00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,600 Speaker 6: is white From thirsty. MRK i, reckon that's up your, 1206 00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:26,960 Speaker 6: ALLEY i. 1207 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,720 Speaker 17: Reckon i'll be there a job will all? 1208 00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,720 Speaker 6: Right you're there on the seventeenth Of july The palms one. 1209 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:36,520 Speaker 6: Show only you could do a lot. Worse The corpredos are, 1210 00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,760 Speaker 6: performing all good, people all great. Musicos they will be 1211 00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:40,720 Speaker 6: entertainment you could. 1212 00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:41,520 Speaker 7: Do, well what worse is? 1213 00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:41,760 Speaker 5: That the? 1214 00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:41,960 Speaker 14: Best? 1215 00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:42,080 Speaker 11: You? 1216 00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,320 Speaker 6: Well, no that's an outstanding thing For, PAUL i, reckon 1217 00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,640 Speaker 6: don't hang, Up paul and have one for me when 1218 00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:47,960 Speaker 6: you get. 1219 00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:49,720 Speaker 5: There could you really sense that VIBE i? 1220 00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,480 Speaker 6: Did i'm right, On, paul you've got that. Up you're, 1221 00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:54,080 Speaker 6: Right i'm, right AREN'T? I? 1222 00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:59,280 Speaker 17: Yeah amazing. 1223 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,320 Speaker 6: UP i don't know, why BUT i just. Did, james good. 1224 00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:09,600 Speaker 20: Morning the government should carriage instantaneous gas hot. Water most 1225 00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,920 Speaker 20: hot order is used by people. Showing you're showing that 1226 00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,040 Speaker 20: morning or the, night so twenty four hours a, day 1227 00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:20,160 Speaker 20: the gas is bubbling along a brawling. Point instantaneous hot order. 1228 00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:24,040 Speaker 20: Service when you, shower it heats the watered up. Instantly 1229 00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,200 Speaker 20: you turn it, off and what it then goes, off 1230 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:32,360 Speaker 20: so the use is far cheaper using gas instantaneous hot, water. 1231 00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,520 Speaker 6: Gas instantaneous hot. Water you're, Right, well you. 1232 00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,960 Speaker 7: Have your suggestion that the government pays a rebate to 1233 00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:38,480 Speaker 7: install a gas. 1234 00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:42,200 Speaker 6: Connection, Time, no it won't. Happen you're talking Since, james 1235 00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:44,880 Speaker 6: there is no. Cost you've got a pilot light burning, 1236 00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:48,040 Speaker 6: away costing one cent per, month and then all of 1237 00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,760 Speaker 6: a sudden you get in, nude you turn on the hot, Tap, 1238 00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:54,040 Speaker 6: bang it fires up instantaneous hot water at low. Cost, 1239 00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:57,040 Speaker 6: james exactly, right he talks. 1240 00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:01,000 Speaker 7: ABOUT i JUST i do not see this government ever 1241 01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:06,240 Speaker 7: ever coming up with a rebase for a gas connected 1242 01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,480 Speaker 7: for some device that needs to be connected to the gas. 1243 01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,800 Speaker 5: Would be a good idea for another government wanting to 1244 01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:14,440 Speaker 5: be in that. Situation, hello good. 1245 01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,439 Speaker 6: Morning, yeah high. 1246 01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,800 Speaker 9: Tim one of you was, asked can you hear? 1247 01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:20,320 Speaker 14: Me oh. 1248 01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,160 Speaker 9: Yeah one of you was asking that how much is 1249 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:27,480 Speaker 9: the temperature decrease if we stop using? Gas the answer, is, 1250 01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:31,000 Speaker 9: collectively we need to do all these things to reduce 1251 01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,760 Speaker 9: warming by two point zero degree. Celsius we're trying to 1252 01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:38,520 Speaker 9: limit warming to about one point five degrees instead of 1253 01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:41,880 Speaker 9: three point five degree celsis for warming by twenty one, 1254 01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:46,680 Speaker 9: hundred which would progressively cause negative humanitarian and economic. Impacts 1255 01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,920 Speaker 9: now you can make the argument that the gas itself 1256 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,680 Speaker 9: is too small to, matter but then everybody in the 1257 01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,520 Speaker 9: world can say they individually are too small to, matter 1258 01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:59,120 Speaker 9: or every town or every city or every province can 1259 01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:02,120 Speaker 9: say we're too small for, matter and then nothing gets. 1260 01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:03,040 Speaker 9: Done so is it going to? 1261 01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,080 Speaker 5: Happen, THOUGH i know what you're saying is, Right but 1262 01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:07,200 Speaker 5: is it going to happen in? Reality BUT i think 1263 01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:08,800 Speaker 5: it is in? 1264 01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,920 Speaker 9: Reality, yes in, Reality. 1265 01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,200 Speaker 5: No it's not going to. Happen is the correct? 1266 01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:16,680 Speaker 9: Answer, well what's not going to happen the? 1267 01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,440 Speaker 5: Gas now that the whole world does what you're asking 1268 01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,120 Speaker 5: it to in, reality that won't. 1269 01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:26,280 Speaker 9: Happen the world is behind, target and we're looking at 1270 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,160 Speaker 9: about two point five degree celsius rise if we don't, 1271 01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,840 Speaker 9: act but a lot of the world is. Acting ninety 1272 01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:33,960 Speaker 9: two percent of the world does have a net zero. 1273 01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:36,640 Speaker 9: Target you can look at a country Like, china which 1274 01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:39,720 Speaker 9: is installing twice as many renewables as the rest of 1275 01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,280 Speaker 9: the world combined and now seems to have beaked an 1276 01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:46,680 Speaker 9: emissions and is. Decreasing and so the world is indeed 1277 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:50,840 Speaker 9: acting not fast, enough which is why what we need 1278 01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:52,960 Speaker 9: to say is we need to do more to say 1279 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,160 Speaker 9: we're behind. Target therefore we should completely give. Up it 1280 01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:57,880 Speaker 9: is mine, namingly so. 1281 01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,280 Speaker 5: Let me ask you. This you've being fair of the 1282 01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,280 Speaker 5: whole world going nuclear then because there are no emissions 1283 01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:04,360 Speaker 5: in a. 1284 01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,120 Speaker 9: Way, YES i would be in favor of. It, however 1285 01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:09,320 Speaker 9: it isn't practical or commercially. 1286 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,400 Speaker 5: VIABLE i think it is if you want to save the, planet, 1287 01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,880 Speaker 5: sir that's what your intention, is is that all this 1288 01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:19,400 Speaker 5: is to save the. Planet so if you would save the, 1289 01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,000 Speaker 5: planet if the whole world were, nuclear it's a no 1290 01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:23,160 Speaker 5: brainer from your, side. 1291 01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:29,480 Speaker 9: Surely, well, firstly it's not about saving the. Planet it's 1292 01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:33,120 Speaker 9: about the Negative, listen, listen just listen for a. Moment 1293 01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:36,760 Speaker 9: it's about the negative impacts of. Warming it's not about 1294 01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:41,040 Speaker 9: the redistruction of. Everybody it's about reducing those negative impacts 1295 01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,520 Speaker 9: of three point five degrees. Warming, now nuclear has a 1296 01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:46,840 Speaker 9: problem is there's not enough uranium for us to convert 1297 01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:51,360 Speaker 9: everything to. Nuclear we would run out of viable. Uranium 1298 01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:55,040 Speaker 9: there is currently only enough uranium current usage rates about 1299 01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:58,720 Speaker 9: nine percent of generation to last the ninety. Years so 1300 01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,960 Speaker 9: if we made it ten. Times we just don't have 1301 01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:05,480 Speaker 9: enough uranium to do. That it's also not commercially viable 1302 01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:08,919 Speaker 9: because it just costs too much and takes too. 1303 01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:12,240 Speaker 7: Long it's possible over the nineteen years we could synthesize 1304 01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:14,400 Speaker 7: our own. Version is it possible over ninety years we 1305 01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,400 Speaker 7: could synthesize our own version of Urinim? 1306 01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,840 Speaker 9: No, no that would be alchemy where you try to 1307 01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:23,520 Speaker 9: create one alement out of, another and converting lead into 1308 01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:28,080 Speaker 9: gold is. Impossible so there are sources of uranium that 1309 01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:31,560 Speaker 9: are greater in putting and, seawater but it's not commercially 1310 01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:34,400 Speaker 9: viable to get them. Out it makes more sense to 1311 01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:38,160 Speaker 9: use renewables to produce much of the electrivity we. Need 1312 01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,000 Speaker 9: there will still need to be alternate. Sources there may 1313 01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:44,800 Speaker 9: be some gas for emergency in extreme situations that we 1314 01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:48,360 Speaker 9: just need to get most of our energy from renewables 1315 01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:51,840 Speaker 9: so that decreases, emissions which decreases. 1316 01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,880 Speaker 7: Sense when the governments make commercially viable, decisions they don't 1317 01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:57,360 Speaker 7: care about the commercial viability of. 1318 01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,600 Speaker 6: Things, no they, Don't Thanks Paul, leeds good. 1319 01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:01,720 Speaker 7: Morning worry about the political vibrance, anyway? 1320 01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:02,000 Speaker 5: Correct? 1321 01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:06,200 Speaker 4: Oh that guy one of the very few calls you've 1322 01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,360 Speaker 4: ever had who talks SINCE i, mean he's put your right. 1323 01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:10,800 Speaker 5: Wing i'm not so. 1324 01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,000 Speaker 4: Sure remember back back in your. 1325 01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:16,600 Speaker 5: BOX i, Mean i'm not so sure That i'm not 1326 01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:17,080 Speaker 5: sure that's. 1327 01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,000 Speaker 4: Right, WELL i think it is. 1328 01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:20,400 Speaker 5: Right i'm sure you. 1329 01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:24,360 Speaker 4: Do, well where's the where's the where's the evidence to 1330 01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:28,800 Speaker 4: say that any electric generator in this, country any private 1331 01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:33,120 Speaker 4: equity firm and an investor would want to invest IN U? Korea, 1332 01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:33,640 Speaker 4: well they. 1333 01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:36,160 Speaker 5: Can't at the moment because there is a ban from 1334 01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:39,200 Speaker 5: the federal government that says they are not going to 1335 01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:42,080 Speaker 5: do it and in the. State so until that ban is, 1336 01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:43,320 Speaker 5: gone we will never. 1337 01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:48,160 Speaker 4: Know so well if we, will because we, won't because. 1338 01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:48,920 Speaker 6: No we. 1339 01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,360 Speaker 5: Won't you don't know what you're talking. About if there 1340 01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,200 Speaker 5: is a, ban then there is no way it's going to. 1341 01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:58,600 Speaker 5: Happen so if you take the ban, off then you 1342 01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:01,360 Speaker 5: there is a very big possible that people will come 1343 01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,400 Speaker 5: and get it up and going for themselves and their own. 1344 01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:05,480 Speaker 5: Profit BUT i. 1345 01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:07,320 Speaker 16: Know they. 1346 01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:11,960 Speaker 5: Won't what's happening overseas? As i'm not sure you know 1347 01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:13,200 Speaker 5: what you're talking, about? 1348 01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:16,720 Speaker 7: Sir does It does it work overseas? 1349 01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:19,800 Speaker 4: Well looked at the Posta, no, no, no no. 1350 01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:24,840 Speaker 5: Answer ask answer that. Question does it work? Overseas in 1351 01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:26,160 Speaker 5: some jurisdictions it all? 1352 01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:30,000 Speaker 7: Work so why does it work in some jurisdictions overseas 1353 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:30,800 Speaker 7: but would never work? 1354 01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:34,640 Speaker 4: Here tell me why they've got the expertise to be 1355 01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:36,440 Speaker 4: able to build. Them we don't hear, it. 1356 01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,400 Speaker 5: But you get, so you get their, expertise you bring it. 1357 01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,960 Speaker 5: Down that's simple. Facts what are you talking, About? 1358 01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:46,200 Speaker 4: Maine what are you talking? About what was the proposal 1359 01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:49,360 Speaker 4: from the coalition to build nuclear power? Plants where the 1360 01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:51,200 Speaker 4: going to build one at a, time two at the, 1361 01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:54,080 Speaker 4: time all at the same. Time of, course we had 1362 01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:57,760 Speaker 4: no all until the. 1363 01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:00,520 Speaker 5: Ban is, lifted, sir you know that very. 1364 01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:03,760 Speaker 6: Well thanks for the. Call you know doctor lenn our 1365 01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:09,080 Speaker 6: residence scientist Len Halprinian len he Has he, says if 1366 01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:12,560 Speaker 6: we are serious about global, warming we should go. Nuclear. 1367 01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:14,560 Speaker 6: Correct and you know what else he's done for, You. 1368 01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,520 Speaker 6: Marco he sent a photo of him walking across the 1369 01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:20,640 Speaker 6: pink lake just west of in twenty twenty. 1370 01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:21,640 Speaker 5: One how good is that? 1371 01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:22,439 Speaker 6: Look and it's still? 1372 01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:23,480 Speaker 5: Pink how good is? 1373 01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:30,080 Speaker 6: That where is the pink seventeen to? Twelve, Now, marco 1374 01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,200 Speaker 6: there's a whip to your. Right just pick that up 1375 01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:33,840 Speaker 6: AND i want you to give it the power that 1376 01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,800 Speaker 6: you would sort of a driver off the first t 1377 01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:41,800 Speaker 6: At Kingston. Heath oh that's, good that is. Good now 1378 01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:45,240 Speaker 6: you're a good, golfer very strong. Risk i'd like you 1379 01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:48,880 Speaker 6: to go, First. Heidi oh ah, right my slather would. 1380 01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:49,160 Speaker 21: BE i. 1381 01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:55,120 Speaker 7: WENT i went to The impressionists exhibition AT thet The 1382 01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:58,960 Speaker 7: French impressionists at THE nngv last. Week i'm just on 1383 01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:02,080 Speaker 7: my little. HOLIDAY i found it quite, beautiful quite, lovely 1384 01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:03,040 Speaker 7: little thing to look. 1385 01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,400 Speaker 6: Gets something you want to. See that's wonderful In. 1386 01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:08,200 Speaker 7: Melbourne, indeed and my wife would. BE i was a 1387 01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:11,160 Speaker 7: little surprised to open the newspaper today and read about 1388 01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,160 Speaker 7: the new expressway that's being built out along on the 1389 01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:16,520 Speaker 7: bus expressway that's being built out along The Eastern, Freeway 1390 01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:20,240 Speaker 7: meant to be, seamless smooth, run faster, run much faster 1391 01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:22,920 Speaker 7: run for bus, commuters removing it from the traffic and 1392 01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:25,520 Speaker 7: off you go on your bus. Expressway there'll be a 1393 01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:28,680 Speaker 7: speed limit at various points along there of sixty kilometers an. 1394 01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:35,439 Speaker 7: Hour why hills, hillslops who who? Know you've purpose built 1395 01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:37,800 Speaker 7: this thing and you're going to slow the buses down 1396 01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:39,040 Speaker 7: in parts of, it and. 1397 01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:42,120 Speaker 6: The rest of the cars are going one hundred because. 1398 01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:45,360 Speaker 7: Don't look AT i don't have the answers to. 1399 01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:45,920 Speaker 10: It they're just. 1400 01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:49,840 Speaker 7: Weird how can you build this big expressway and build 1401 01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:53,360 Speaker 7: a faster commute much better? Thing, yeap except you want. 1402 01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:56,520 Speaker 5: To have a sixty. Zone, yeah and it seems, unusual my. Slather, 1403 01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:57,480 Speaker 5: yeah CAN i go? 1404 01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:57,880 Speaker 14: First? 1405 01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:00,600 Speaker 5: Yes your hour with the? Lines? 1406 01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:06,320 Speaker 6: Nice thank you, much. Milnd but he knows that he 1407 01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:09,960 Speaker 6: is because of his extravagant looks sometimes and he was 1408 01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:12,560 Speaker 6: wearing a jumpsuit this. Morning who can enjoy? 1409 01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:14,320 Speaker 7: IT i think he leans into, it leans into. 1410 01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:16,439 Speaker 6: It he doesn't care what people, think and he just loves, 1411 01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:20,320 Speaker 6: life and he's embraced his life and gets the most 1412 01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:21,719 Speaker 6: out of. IT i get the, feeling who. 1413 01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:23,120 Speaker 7: Are you expecting a bigger mohawk? 1414 01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:25,519 Speaker 6: Today though he's de mohawked a, bit hasn't? He but 1415 01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:27,320 Speaker 6: at his age it's probably appropriate to de. 1416 01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:30,960 Speaker 5: Mohawk just any man who gets lip a suction in 1417 01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:32,880 Speaker 5: the shape of abs is a friend of. 1418 01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:40,519 Speaker 6: Mine my. SLADDER i was invited to lunch by THE, 1419 01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:45,280 Speaker 6: pvv which stands for Police what is? 1420 01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:46,479 Speaker 7: It Police veterans Of? 1421 01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:50,839 Speaker 6: Victoria Police veterans Of victoria Chairman david McGown is standing. 1422 01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:53,880 Speaker 6: Down you know WHAT i found. Out it's like helping 1423 01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,920 Speaker 6: police any police person that has, served whether it be 1424 01:08:57,000 --> 01:09:00,240 Speaker 6: one day or one hundred, years THE pvv are to 1425 01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:03,479 Speaker 6: help them if there are any issues on, retirement Like 1426 01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:06,240 Speaker 6: legacy do to people that have fought for this great. 1427 01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:10,760 Speaker 6: Country so it's a great. Organization there's a lot of, 1428 01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:13,599 Speaker 6: depression there's mental, issues there's a whole lot that they help. 1429 01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:16,360 Speaker 6: With and you know how much the state government funded 1430 01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:21,960 Speaker 6: millions not one. Cent i'm not. Kidding david was telling, 1431 01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:25,479 Speaker 6: me the outgoing chair, Person david, McGowan he was telling 1432 01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:28,680 Speaker 6: me that he's approached to the state government who were 1433 01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:33,639 Speaker 6: Giving legacy wonderful organization ten million dollars and he said 1434 01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:36,400 Speaker 6: that's federally, funded but the state government wanted to tip, 1435 01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:37,680 Speaker 6: in so that's. Fine he, said well can you give 1436 01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:40,760 Speaker 6: us two and Maybe legacy? Eight state government said, yeah 1437 01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:42,479 Speaker 6: we'll think about. It then guess what they. Did they 1438 01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:45,400 Speaker 6: ended up Giving legacy twenty million and THE pvv. Nothing 1439 01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:49,479 Speaker 6: they fundraise to help retired, policepeople WHICH i would have 1440 01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:53,360 Speaker 6: thought is a state government, organization is it? Not why 1441 01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:55,720 Speaker 6: wouldn't they give some money to the people that have 1442 01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:58,840 Speaker 6: served this community and protected us for years that maybe 1443 01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:02,120 Speaker 6: having issues themselves with every financial or Mental why wouldn't 1444 01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:04,280 Speaker 6: they support that by funding it a little bit at? 1445 01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:07,840 Speaker 5: Least i'll tell you. Why because, currently every hour of 1446 01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:11,559 Speaker 5: every day we are paying one point two million dollars 1447 01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:18,040 Speaker 5: to repay our. Debt every hour of every, day one 1448 01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:23,519 Speaker 5: point two million dollars interest gets torn. 1449 01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:25,600 Speaker 6: Up so twenty millions could go straight to it in one. 1450 01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:27,720 Speaker 6: Day if we didn't have repayments that we've. 1451 01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,200 Speaker 5: Racked up half half a, day they'd be happy WITH 1452 01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:31,280 Speaker 5: i reckon half a day's. 1453 01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:33,320 Speaker 7: Worth is there any chance This veterans group has been 1454 01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:34,759 Speaker 7: critical of the? Government? 1455 01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:38,360 Speaker 6: Oh they, Were they weren't, happy and funnily, enough the 1456 01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:39,880 Speaker 6: opposition with it before this. 1457 01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:41,680 Speaker 7: Point mister Former copp was. 1458 01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:44,960 Speaker 6: There and made a great. Speech it was a very good. 1459 01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,639 Speaker 7: LUNCH i just wonder if The veterans have been if 1460 01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:51,000 Speaker 7: this association has been publicly critical of the government in recent, 1461 01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,599 Speaker 7: times say in the last couple of. YEARS i, Wonder oh. 1462 01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:57,400 Speaker 5: WONDER i just compose this, question who hasn't been critical 1463 01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:59,920 Speaker 5: of this? Government that's, true in the last couple of years. 1464 01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:05,519 Speaker 7: For a few, people well paid paid. Position, anyway you 1465 01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:06,720 Speaker 7: forgot your Wa do you have a? 1466 01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:11,240 Speaker 5: WHACK i have a wha the machete. Band how's it? 1467 01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:18,599 Speaker 5: GOING i think has the machete band slowed things down 1468 01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:20,200 Speaker 5: In gangland at the? 1469 01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,400 Speaker 7: Moment it does not appear, so because it's not actually 1470 01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:25,160 Speaker 7: removing any that are already out there in the in 1471 01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:26,280 Speaker 7: these and. 1472 01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:28,439 Speaker 5: You know when you go To buddings and when there 1473 01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:31,160 Speaker 5: used to be a machete. Isle right next to it the, 1474 01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:34,479 Speaker 5: axile right next to that hatchet, eye there was the hatchet, 1475 01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:37,840 Speaker 5: isle and right next to that was the pitchfork. Isle 1476 01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:42,360 Speaker 5: there's a lot of weaponary there is what's next. 1477 01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:43,800 Speaker 7: Or tools for agricultural. 1478 01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,880 Speaker 5: Purposes i'm not sure they have a machete. PROBLEM i 1479 01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:49,280 Speaker 5: think they have a different kind of, problem a gang. 1480 01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:53,280 Speaker 6: Problem, Yes, Caroline spring is the latest. 1481 01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:57,439 Speaker 5: Event all, right let's don't worry about. That just pretend 1482 01:11:57,439 --> 01:11:57,840 Speaker 5: you're doing. 1483 01:11:57,880 --> 01:11:59,880 Speaker 6: Something did you have a? WHACK i didn't have a. 1484 01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:05,040 Speaker 6: Idea the, Busway, oh the bus way, Cage good, morning good. 1485 01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:09,120 Speaker 22: Morning i've got a whack For heidi Wacking, heidi because 1486 01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:12,360 Speaker 22: you did say that you couldn't believe the government would 1487 01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:16,120 Speaker 22: ever pay a rebate to have install gas, appliances but they. 1488 01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:20,559 Speaker 22: Did if you installed a five star hot water service, 1489 01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:23,280 Speaker 22: gas then you've got a rebate if you've got rid of. 1490 01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:27,800 Speaker 22: Yours but, WELL i left the industry in twenty twenty 1491 01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:31,520 Speaker 22: after a, stroke but it would have been twenty, nineteen twenty, eighteen. 1492 01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:35,799 Speaker 7: And i'm curry. Goverment now you've got. 1493 01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:38,759 Speaker 22: A rebase and you had to geotag the absolute destruction 1494 01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:41,600 Speaker 22: of the electric. Appliance so if they had an in 1495 01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:45,200 Speaker 22: roof hot, water we had to drill whole and decommission 1496 01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,479 Speaker 22: it to the point that it was not. Reusable so 1497 01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:50,599 Speaker 22: those people had paid extra money to put gas in 1498 01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:53,640 Speaker 22: and now they've got a chink in their roof that 1499 01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:56,000 Speaker 22: you can't get out because you're built in when the 1500 01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:56,639 Speaker 22: house is filled. 1501 01:12:58,000 --> 01:12:59,960 Speaker 7: Us, yeah WHAT i was talking about was the current 1502 01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:02,360 Speaker 7: was the current government where we're at. Now, well that's 1503 01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:06,840 Speaker 7: so that's still several years. Ago that's, like that's like 1504 01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:08,240 Speaker 7: minister years. 1505 01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:11,519 Speaker 6: Ago thanks to. 1506 01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:14,320 Speaker 5: You that's gone, downhill, quick hasn't? 1507 01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:21,520 Speaker 7: It put it in a little while? Ago no new, installs, no. 1508 01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:26,200 Speaker 6: Okay six to twelve quick one From andrew good, morning. 1509 01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:32,639 Speaker 16: Yeah good eighteen just with the The musk and The 1510 01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:33,880 Speaker 16: Trump association. 1511 01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:35,880 Speaker 12: THERE i find it. 1512 01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:40,200 Speaker 16: Rather interesting that their dead is thirty six trillion dollars 1513 01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:43,120 Speaker 16: and it was twenty trillion under the First trump. Presidency 1514 01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:47,880 Speaker 16: yet again they're still lending him eighteen billion dollars for 1515 01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:50,479 Speaker 16: this pie dream to put people out of. SPACE i, 1516 01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:54,280 Speaker 16: mean you would think that they basically reduced their their 1517 01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:57,960 Speaker 16: debt before they actually go the other way and just. 1518 01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:00,840 Speaker 16: Increasing yet again there's still gets voted. 1519 01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:02,320 Speaker 17: In how does that? 1520 01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:06,960 Speaker 7: WORK i, mean legend that Debt someone someone told me 1521 01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:09,960 Speaker 7: there was a debt clock on bus shelters over in the. State. 1522 01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:11,280 Speaker 7: Somewhere they've got the debt. 1523 01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:14,040 Speaker 5: Clock how good would that? 1524 01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,120 Speaker 7: Be that's what we, need like a state debt clock 1525 01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:17,160 Speaker 7: or a national. 1526 01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:19,000 Speaker 5: State and they should know where they need to put 1527 01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:20,840 Speaker 5: it an interest. Clock they needed to put it at 1528 01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:24,680 Speaker 5: the front gate of every school In. Victoria so it 1529 01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:27,679 Speaker 5: reminds these children it's not going to be us who's 1530 01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:30,000 Speaker 5: paying it. Off it's going to be. 1531 01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:34,040 Speaker 7: You it's a dark day at school debt clock and thinking. 1532 01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:35,320 Speaker 5: About they need to know the. 1533 01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:42,920 Speaker 6: Truth these kids like those thermometer fundraising ones that you, 1534 01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,120 Speaker 6: see you know There. 1535 01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:51,600 Speaker 5: Grandpa and grandma paying. 1536 01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:54,040 Speaker 6: It off as a gentleman in this world is exactly 1537 01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:55,960 Speaker 6: the same age AS i. Am AND i saw him 1538 01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:59,960 Speaker 6: interviewed only yesterday AND i looked at, him and we're 1539 01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:03,479 Speaker 6: similar in. LOOKS i, reckon there's definite. Similarity. NO i 1540 01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:05,320 Speaker 6: looked at him AND i, thought for the first time, 1541 01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:08,200 Speaker 6: ever he's starting to look. Old George, clooney have you 1542 01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:11,040 Speaker 6: seen him? Like OH i? DID i, reckon he is 1543 01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:12,160 Speaker 6: looking a tiny bit. 1544 01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:16,960 Speaker 5: Older he's looking pretty. Good he's looking. 1545 01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:18,800 Speaker 7: Good are you're leaving that open for us to say 1546 01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:22,200 Speaker 7: you're looking? Great you? Can you're looking very, Young Darren. 1547 01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:25,160 Speaker 7: JAMES i saw some photographs of you from the eighties 1548 01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:27,680 Speaker 7: AND i thought it looks like yesterday us all the. 1549 01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:30,679 Speaker 5: Favorite can you just sign off with The Johnny farnham 1550 01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:32,120 Speaker 5: style good? 1551 01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:34,360 Speaker 6: Day this Is John. Farnaman CAN i say Of australian 1552 01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:36,559 Speaker 6: in THE i love your mate And, HEIDI i love 1553 01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:39,120 Speaker 6: your work AND i loved you, Too mark on the 1554 01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:42,400 Speaker 6: golf course AND i want to say sports next AND 1555 01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:45,440 Speaker 6: i love them. Too Thanks, John. 1556 01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:48,920 Speaker 7: How do you prove your? HEAD i thank, you. 1557 01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:52,599 Speaker 6: Thank, You, mark thank your Good thank, You seane, Mckinness Laura, 1558 01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:55,519 Speaker 6: Spoway Matthew richardson And Tony. Shaw they want to know 1559 01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:59,800 Speaker 6: Has alan And Andrew dillon started to steady the ship 1560 01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:03,120 Speaker 6: at the Al keep your radio locked. In There's rich 1561 01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:05,280 Speaker 6: oh as, well he'll be. On good to see. Him 1562 01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:08,559 Speaker 6: it's a dark wintry. Day enjoy, it won't you have 1563 01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:08,960 Speaker 6: a great? 1564 01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:29,200 Speaker 18: One ten degrees In melbourne rain Today at top of 1565 01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:33,760 Speaker 18: twelve it's, Midday good. Afternoon I'm Brian. WILSON a man 1566 01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:36,240 Speaker 18: is on the run after a food delivery worker was 1567 01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:39,120 Speaker 18: stabbed In Carnegie, Eddie summerfield. 1568 01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:42,000 Speaker 21: Reports the food delivery worker was on his e scooter 1569 01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:45,600 Speaker 21: riding on the path underneath the sky rail Between carnegie 1570 01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:49,720 Speaker 21: And murrambina railway stations last. Night it's believed just after eight, 1571 01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:52,599 Speaker 21: o'clock a man who'd been hiding at the bushes lunged 1572 01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:56,080 Speaker 21: at the delivery, driver stabbing him stealing his e. Scooter 1573 01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:59,439 Speaker 21: paramedics attended the man taken to hospital with non life threatening. 1574 01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:03,679 Speaker 21: Injuries the knife wielding thief remains on the. Run locals 1575 01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:07,360 Speaker 21: remain shocked and terrified by the attack In melbourne Eighty. 1576 01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:11,280 Speaker 18: Summerfield nine years, meanwhile machete sales On amazon have been 1577 01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:14,400 Speaker 18: stopped just two weeks after a ban on twenty centimeters 1578 01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:18,040 Speaker 18: long blades In victoria came into. Place The Herald sun 1579 01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:20,519 Speaker 18: reports amazon as the biggest of twenty seven