Speaker 1: Nine podcasts.
Speaker 2: My buy was largely on the comeback of Will Day,
Speaker 2: who I reckon is as could have the impact and
Speaker 2: play of Chris Chard. I think he's I think he's
Speaker 2: that good and I think he's so important. Hello one,
Speaker 2: Welcome to the Wednesday edition of Eddie and Jimmy. As
Speaker 2: we go through all your questions, send them to us
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Speaker 2: First one from Vancouver. We've got Jamal air Mote who
Speaker 2: sends in his votes every week from Denver, Colorado, very
Speaker 2: happy about this. And Vancouver. Have you ever been to Vancouver?
Speaker 1: I think I have as a kid.
Speaker 2: Fantastic place. You're flying to Vancouver and then you should
Speaker 2: should do this. I tip you into my mate Michael J. Ballgore,
Speaker 2: who's the vice president of Big White, which is in Kolona.
Speaker 2: So flying to Vancouver and then straight in the and
Speaker 2: during so much magnificent. But you know, for us it
Speaker 2: is just fantastic. If you want to take the kids,
Speaker 2: that's the place to go to. I'm not an investor
Speaker 2: or anything. Read and authorized, just giving people the mail.
Speaker 2: If you want to do it. It is insational.
Speaker 1: We should take this show on the road more often.
Speaker 1: ED sales just listening to that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm taking on the road soon. So half of
Speaker 2: it anyway? Right, A pre season in La or Vancouver
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty out to promote AFL. Like it, Like
Speaker 2: it a lot. The only problem is it's cold. Twenty teams.
Speaker 2: Could be a home and away season with each team
Speaker 2: playing each other once and the derby round played twice
Speaker 2: for a balanced fixture. Great. And what I do then
Speaker 2: is extend the finals so you get the same out
Speaker 2: of games on TV. All right? Do you want to
Speaker 2: keep going?
Speaker 1: Yep? The winner gets five hundred k and five premiership points.
Speaker 1: The loser of the grand final gets two hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty K two and a half premiership points. The two
Speaker 1: losing semi finals one hundred and twenty one point twenty
Speaker 1: five points. For losing quarter finalists gets sixty two and
Speaker 1: zero point six two five premiership points. Let's make pre
Speaker 1: pre season competitive and semi serious.
Speaker 2: So a lot.
Speaker 1: He's thrown an idea and he's created a bit of
Speaker 1: a solution to make it because you've got to play
Speaker 1: for something, because everyone knows when it's a Mickey Mouse game.
Speaker 1: They go through the motions and that's not good for
Speaker 1: people watching the game.
Speaker 2: Yep, there's one thing I know when in our game
Speaker 2: of football, you put a dollar on the line and
Speaker 2: everyone suddenly gets their focus very quickly. Next one. So good,
Speaker 2: thanks Douglas. I get what you're saying there, and I
Speaker 2: agree with a fair bit of it.
Speaker 1: But the time of the year Vancouver, well that's winter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the pre but again and well, the AFL need
Speaker 2: to get their foot off everyone's throwight on the on
Speaker 2: the soft cap to be able to do it because
Speaker 2: they take it out of it.
Speaker 1: La is more likely because of the weather and proximity
Speaker 1: to a be closer than Vancouver.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and probably. I mean the thing for the as
Speaker 2: we do this deal with the NFL, if clubs are smart,
Speaker 2: that's that we're doing and go over and train and
Speaker 2: do a lot of things. Now we've already seen a
Speaker 2: lot of players now going up to Kata to Aspina
Speaker 2: the medical center up there to get looked over. Anyway,
Speaker 2: Brett read last touch, All right, here we go. Brett
Speaker 2: says I had a thought bubble that the reason the
Speaker 2: last touch in all situations never been brought in is
Speaker 2: because it's too big of a penalty if the opposition
Speaker 2: kicks a goal from an innocuous last touch free kick
Speaker 2: inside forward fifty. Therefore, why don't make it like in
Speaker 2: soccer where the ball is thrown back in, but instead
Speaker 2: it has to be handballed back into play all across
Speaker 2: the field unless it's out on the four where you
Speaker 2: can kick back as per usual.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just mapping my way through he's suggestion there.
Speaker 2: No, Well, the answer to that, I think is is
Speaker 2: he ever throwing within the fifty meter arc? But at
Speaker 2: the same time, why do we always you know, we've
Speaker 2: got points because you missed the goals, We have sixty
Speaker 2: six to six and you get another go here, you
Speaker 2: know all that sort of stuff. Why don't we just
Speaker 2: make it the last touch? So keep it in and
Speaker 2: if you don't, there you go. You'll get the same
Speaker 2: chance at the other end.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Brett, they'll try between the arcs before
Speaker 1: they go inside forward fifty. But just make it clear.
Speaker 2: Because there was another series of cock ups over the
Speaker 2: weekend on ball going over the line and was outbounds.
Speaker 1: Well, if he's the only thing with that, and I
Speaker 1: know people.
Speaker 2: It was further at the wae arms.
Speaker 1: The simple one on that is if he's outside foot
Speaker 1: with his inside Let's go back that. If his inside
Speaker 1: foot is on the line and his outside foot is
Speaker 1: over the line and he marks it over the shoulder
Speaker 1: of his outside foot, it's clearly out of bounce.
Speaker 2: I heard you say that that made far too much sense.
Speaker 2: Craig says, re AFL promotion. This one for Jimmy, because
Speaker 2: Eddie likely can't answer it, says, my interest is in
Speaker 2: the admin side of Australian sports leagues and how they
Speaker 2: manage the business as a whole. In my opinion, the
Speaker 2: AFL is such a great and so popular culturally that
Speaker 2: it kind of runs itself and will always grow. But
Speaker 2: how much depends on the quality of administration of the game,
Speaker 2: It's promotion, etcetera.
Speaker 1: There you question, you can answer, yeah, well, the administration
Speaker 1: is important because they set the direction of the game
Speaker 1: and where you want it to move to with the
Speaker 1: on field product, but also the off field product. And
Speaker 1: we talk about a fair bit here. Craig and D's
Speaker 1: big on put the fix in fixturing because that can
Speaker 1: help you promotion, whether it be nine time Grand Finals.
Speaker 2: Or where you play fix out of fix.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, sorry the other way around, and not put
Speaker 1: the fix in the fixture out, but take the fix
Speaker 1: out of it. So it is really important that your
Speaker 1: administration is strong, not only does for the now, but
Speaker 1: gets their head up and looks into advance. What does
Speaker 1: it look like to five ten years where we going teams,
Speaker 1: where we're playing games? What's the time slot?
Speaker 2: Not get swayed and not get swayed by the fashion
Speaker 2: of the day. Yes, because just about every landmark decision
Speaker 2: that has been made in the last thirty years of football,
Speaker 2: the big ones, ground rationalization, nighttime football, the.
Speaker 1: Draft, it's okay to upset people.
Speaker 2: Everything has been pooh poohed. All right. I was in
Speaker 2: a board when I told you this, a commission meeting,
Speaker 2: AFL Commission, AFL presidents and two clubs, North Melbourne and
Speaker 2: Essendon stood up and said, if you put us on
Speaker 2: Friday nights, we will take you to court? Will suit you?
Speaker 2: So a North carry on of it. They were the pioneers,
Speaker 2: oh they were, but they played like going But then
Speaker 2: you can discount that right. They jumped out and they
Speaker 2: wanted to fill their new investment down a marvel both
Speaker 2: teams and that's the way they thought they were going
Speaker 2: to make money in those days because the TV money
Speaker 2: wasn't it good. So I'm not criticizing where they were,
Speaker 2: but they missed the boat on that one. So all
Speaker 2: those big decisions were completely hold down. Okay, some of
Speaker 2: them should have been held down, like the disintegration of clubs,
Speaker 2: trying to kill off clubs and merge them. No one
Speaker 2: like I didn't like that one, but yeah, but most
Speaker 2: of the big ones you've got to go with. So
Speaker 2: I'm just been worried. I would love to see the
Speaker 2: AFL really tighten things up for a little while. That
Speaker 2: doesn't mean they can't be involved in social issues, but
Speaker 2: I think all things should focus on the development of
Speaker 2: the game. Okay, so we're getting you know, i'd love
Speaker 2: to I know we're playing up in l Springs this week,
Speaker 2: which is great for Melbourne playing up there, but I'd
Speaker 2: really like to see us doing some work into l
Speaker 2: Springs and into Darwin to get those pathways opened up
Speaker 2: which fell down a bit because of COVID. No one's fault.
Speaker 2: They're bigger social element. You know. If the AFL can
Speaker 2: solve the issues in Darwen and in Alice Springs, you know,
Speaker 2: they're the first organization in the world to be able
Speaker 2: to do so. But I think there's some really positive
Speaker 2: things we could do there.
Speaker 1: Hopefully we touch on there, Craig, but keep your questions
Speaker 1: coming through if you want us to get into a
Speaker 1: different angle of that.
Speaker 2: So the bottom line is, yes, the game saves itself
Speaker 2: from administration in a lot of cases, but yes we
Speaker 2: can turbo charge it if we folks us in the
Speaker 2: right areas.
Speaker 1: Ye yes, Brendan, West Coast money Why and West Coast
Speaker 1: pay the luxury tax and bolster their football department as
Speaker 1: well as look at private cross country flights and leverage
Speaker 1: their financial strength. No point adding gold bars to the
Speaker 1: vault every year and finishing last, totally great point, Brendan.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 1: If you can pay it and it does give you
Speaker 1: a benefit and can fast track your rise up the ladder,
Speaker 1: do it. There is a certain point where members go,
Speaker 1: you know what, you just give us another financial report
Speaker 1: where we made five million profit. If you sit and
Speaker 1: we made two men but we won an extra ten games, well.
Speaker 2: I suppose it also, and it's not any club at all.
Speaker 2: Clubs at the moment, we've got to be careful that
Speaker 2: people who come from a finance background, and you know,
Speaker 2: the corporate world, don't lose sight of the fact that.
Speaker 1: You're there to play football.
Speaker 2: And that's why you know things like when ross Lyon
Speaker 2: and Dimmer have a blue on the weekend, that's great
Speaker 2: because they're actually in their fight. They know what it's
Speaker 2: all about. You know, they're fighting for every inch in
Speaker 2: that situation for West Coast Egles. So I wouldn't have
Speaker 2: no complaint. Again, you have to make sure that balance
Speaker 2: itself right out, but I'd have no complaint with a
Speaker 2: private jet or a plane being used to ferry those
Speaker 2: sides on the long hauls outside the cellar cap Just
Speaker 2: that makes makes perfect sense to me. You know, work
Speaker 2: it out that if you know, all the other teams
Speaker 2: have to do the same, workout where they're disadvantaged and
Speaker 2: do it. I mean, there was a there was a
Speaker 2: proposal put forward by James Hurd and myself a long
Speaker 2: time ago to actually have a chartered flight starting on
Speaker 2: Thursdays that would fly players and supporters, but certainly players
Speaker 2: around the country. And yeah, it made sense, made commercial sense,
Speaker 2: made all the sense in the world. You would probably
Speaker 2: take off Paul Little's got an executive jet plays out
Speaker 2: at Tullamarine, so the players don't have to run the
Speaker 2: gauntlet through the crowds and sit in the back of
Speaker 2: the plane and all that sort of stuff made sense
Speaker 2: to me. Yep, so there's an answer. But yeah, I
Speaker 2: think West Coast, you know, the way they're going at
Speaker 2: the moment, they need teachers and coaches and things.
Speaker 1: Why not lots of development staff all that.
Speaker 2: Because we need them up and going again. West Coast, Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're very, very important part of our football world. Aiden says.
Speaker 1: If we assume that fifteen meter kicks have been clamped
Speaker 1: down to promote a faster flowing game, then I have
Speaker 1: another solution. If a players tackled over the boundary line
Speaker 1: and they prior opportune to dispose of the ball, then
Speaker 1: the tackle should be awarded and the player should be
Speaker 1: pinned holding the ball. I actually saw I reckon just
Speaker 1: say about four rounds ago. I started to actually pay
Speaker 1: a few where if you got tackled legitimately inside the
Speaker 1: boundyline and then it eventually finished over and you didn't
Speaker 1: make an attempt to get rid of it, they got pinned.
Speaker 1: But then it's that have went by the wayside.
Speaker 2: Again, I agree entirely with Aiden. I think that's one
Speaker 2: hundred percent. Thank you, Aiden. I should put you on
Speaker 2: the commission because if it's rumor, got a rumor I've
Speaker 2: heard heard that maybe the rules committee might be coming back.
Speaker 2: Really because I'm still on it, but I haven't heard
Speaker 2: from him for five years.
Speaker 1: You're on something that you don't know is still going.
Speaker 2: No, it's stopped during COVID and didn't come back.
Speaker 1: Really, same sort of setup with some like a mix
Speaker 1: of CEO players coaches.
Speaker 2: Something that you should be on. I would suggest you
Speaker 2: sit next to me because I'm still on it. I
Speaker 2: think I think I've been resold completely.
Speaker 1: I don't think I has got my number on the no.
Speaker 2: But we need to get a few people who may
Speaker 2: have a bit of a dissenting view. But that's a
Speaker 2: that's a very good it's I agree they just fall
Speaker 2: over the bandlin. But that's where last touch comes in because.
Speaker 1: If you take them mark and run out of bounds.
Speaker 1: See you take the mark in play running band it's
Speaker 1: still mark. So if you have a tackle and then
Speaker 1: eventually it takes you out of bounds, you still got
Speaker 1: to try and attempt to get rid of the footbag.
Speaker 2: Yeah, DEAs says the under nineteens he's going to there's
Speaker 2: a few pit into my forehand today. After the back
Speaker 2: of your discussion last week, I see a lot of
Speaker 2: young footballers get lost in the system. I agree with you,
Speaker 2: is before they have a chance to get to AFL level,
Speaker 2: they get their sports lives turned upside down with the
Speaker 2: thought of playing AFL. Unfortunately, squads get trimmed down on
Speaker 2: a regular basis. In a lot of cases, these young
Speaker 2: boys have their dreams shattered and are lost to football.
Speaker 2: Let's just stop there, okay, thoughts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I completely like we we often hear about like
Speaker 1: on the weekend, we hear about Mitch Duncan's three hundred
Speaker 1: and Christian Petrarca two hundred and Toby Green two fifty.
Speaker 1: For every one of those gentlemen, there's fifteen who are
Speaker 1: in and out of the system.
Speaker 2: And you and raise you on Ned Long who was
Speaker 2: discarded and could have easily landed on the scrap pape.
Speaker 2: He gets another go, fights through the VFL and is
Speaker 2: now the centnamon for calling it on top of the ladder. So,
Speaker 2: because I'm getting sick of hearing midfielders, I want people
Speaker 2: being called by their positions. It plays in the center.
Speaker 1: You know what I was thinking about the ruck Rover.
Speaker 2: He's not a Rover's centament.
Speaker 1: It's funny you say that. Again. We spent too much
Speaker 1: time together, so you must be in my brain. When
Speaker 1: I was growing up, I had a peculiar quirk that
Speaker 1: I like to be named as the center over a
Speaker 1: rock Rover. And I don't know why, but this is
Speaker 1: just a visual thing for me. When the coaches put
Speaker 1: your name, I felt like I was on the field
Speaker 1: and I just felt like center just sat more comfortable
Speaker 1: with me. So when they'd write down if you go in,
Speaker 1: what position do you play, I'd write center, because you
Speaker 1: know a lot of people go on ball or rock.
Speaker 2: No, I just center.
Speaker 1: I just had a hang out all like my underage footy,
Speaker 1: where do you play center?
Speaker 2: I used to like I wanted to play center because
Speaker 2: it meant you didn't change as well. Rock Rover changed
Speaker 2: in the forward half back flank, used to change what
Speaker 2: rovers in the forward pocket, Ruckman in the back pocket,
Speaker 2: and rock Rover on the half back flank or half
Speaker 2: forward flank, one or the other. I liked to stay
Speaker 2: in the center all day. If you need the rest,
Speaker 2: you just played a kick behind play for a few minutes,
Speaker 2: get your breath back.
Speaker 1: And it made no sense. There was no different because
Speaker 1: your start, but there was just it was always a
Speaker 1: weird hang up that I had, Like in my junior
Speaker 1: teams at Bell Park and at school football.
Speaker 2: When you played center back in the day, the coaching
Speaker 2: sort of manual back in those days for Cinnamon when
Speaker 2: I played, was that you you went deep into defense
Speaker 2: to support and you'd kick it. It was a throw
Speaker 2: in the forward pocket or something. You get back a
Speaker 2: kick behind play to try and market, get the angles
Speaker 2: right there, and then run and put it through if
Speaker 2: you could. Was that was that sort of your your
Speaker 2: positioning out What was your thinking in the way you play.
Speaker 1: My thinking was center was your case.
Speaker 2: You got the ball, so he just went and got it. Well,
Speaker 2: my thing was to think a bit more about it.
Speaker 1: My thing, he was saying, it was constantly positioning yourself
Speaker 1: also to mark the footy like you're another market. Whether
Speaker 1: you're intercepting like they kick it in deep, you come
Speaker 1: over market, or you push forward to market.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's just the way I approach. That's just
Speaker 1: I get over there and.
Speaker 2: Up he went.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, the third up, you're jumping the bruck, get
Speaker 2: up to take his skidney out on the way through it.
Speaker 2: No we don't do that. No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: He continues there, whilst I know it will never happen
Speaker 2: because of the desire to get the biggest poll available,
Speaker 2: I would like to see the return of the under
Speaker 2: nineteen competition. This will give the youngsters a club to
Speaker 2: belong to under the auspices of a big club administrations.
Speaker 2: I've been screaming by this for years. I would rather
Speaker 2: get a letter from North Melbourne than Carter Accountants. So back,
Speaker 2: I've still got mine from turn Up the Training and
Speaker 2: easy View and all that sort of thing, signed Dennis
Speaker 2: Pagan and all that sort of stuff. Well John Dugdale,
Speaker 2: that's about as far as it went, and contracting to
Speaker 2: come an email. But but I think, and not only that,
Speaker 2: but I think it leads to the facilities now grade
Speaker 2: at all the AFL clubs and you go down to
Speaker 2: Disneyland and you havever look around and go, wow, this
Speaker 2: is unbelievable. You know, would you rather go now? Downdroating
Speaker 2: is do a great job. I'm not knocking them, but
Speaker 2: even if it's just as part of that that you
Speaker 2: know there's three clubs in Melbourne for example, that could
Speaker 2: be associated. If you're at Sandringham, obviously you've got you know,
Speaker 2: some killed Melbourne should be involved and I don't know
Speaker 2: who else is there probably calling, I don't know whatever,
Speaker 2: But if you had that sort of thing, it just
Speaker 2: makes makes for far better interaction. Do you still have
Speaker 2: pine ight's these days? So they should have every every
Speaker 2: AFL club, I reckon should have a pine ight a
Speaker 2: pine Night every week at their headquarters and bring in
Speaker 2: all turning on under eleven's. You know the mild days
Speaker 2: was the Northern Metropolitan Football League. You know, go down
Speaker 2: there and you can have one player turn up and
Speaker 2: you know, the assistant coach or whatever, and you look
Speaker 2: around and maybe you know, have a swim in the
Speaker 2: pool beforehand and go for a run around the the
Speaker 2: oval and have a kick to have a training run
Speaker 2: and do something like that. That'd be fair, How good
Speaker 2: would that be?
Speaker 1: You just pull about great memories of the old pie night.
Speaker 2: That's it. I remember that. I remember the Sint Dominic's
Speaker 2: under eleven's and Broady I was a pinineid on Andy
Speaker 2: and the coach said to me after training. He said,
Speaker 2: you come in to night and I'm not quite sure
Speaker 2: and he said, no, you've got to come tonight. We've
Speaker 2: got to gues speaker. I said, oh yeah, and he
Speaker 2: said a guy called Alan Keller Grew. You know about
Speaker 2: Ellen Killer Grew, Yeah, who got arrested at Geelong going
Speaker 2: up the race the wrong way in a blue that
Speaker 2: happened at halftime, just before halftime. But he was the
Speaker 2: hot Gospeling coach Killer and he got up this day,
Speaker 2: this night, I was nine years of age, and he
Speaker 2: gave an old fashion this is what it's all about.
Speaker 2: You know. He's a devout Catholic as well as at
Speaker 2: the Dominic Football Club, and so all the pride in
Speaker 2: everything that was your sort of hearing it. And at
Speaker 2: that stage, this is in the seventies, the move was
Speaker 2: towards no trophies and everyone's equal and all that sort
Speaker 2: of stuff. And so I was looking for something outside
Speaker 2: of what my family was saying to me. And suddenly
Speaker 2: this guy gets up, Wow, and I kept. His message
Speaker 2: still resonates with me to this very day. I ended
Speaker 2: up writing a year twelve essay about it as part
Speaker 2: of my exams. About the guy and his influence and
Speaker 2: the knock on effect of these type of things. So
Speaker 2: that's how big the influence can be if you get
Speaker 2: somebody up who connects with somebody. I don't have anyone
Speaker 2: else in that room at some dominic's Imbroady even remembers
Speaker 2: that it happened for me. It was like soul on
Speaker 2: the roads at Damascus and suddenly I at sea. It
Speaker 2: was it was, it was that bigger moment for me
Speaker 2: good and that changed. It did change my life, changed
Speaker 2: my what I needed now. So there there's we've got
Speaker 2: the Pineid back under nine means.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that just all on that restructuring. There
Speaker 1: was an opportunity with COVID when all competitions sort of
Speaker 1: got shut down at those underage levels. Story set it,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't taken. So we are where we are.
Speaker 2: So I think we should be playing. Looking at the
Speaker 2: VFL as well. I think, you know, we should be
Speaker 2: putting in teams from and even having a second division.
Speaker 2: But Narry Warren and uh, you know, Craigie Burn and
Speaker 2: all the growth theorists should be in there. You know,
Speaker 2: they should's great having Coburg and all the historical clubs
Speaker 2: and port Port, Melbourne and things, but nothing in the
Speaker 2: city area. We should be beyond the ring Roads where
Speaker 2: we should be. Casey should have a team, Narry Warren,
Speaker 2: get the best teams in there. Use the local competition
Speaker 2: as the feeder competition. Support those loan book competitions. I
Speaker 2: was always filthy when they roll righted the VFA. That's
Speaker 2: to call the VFA back in the day. But the
Speaker 2: VFA used to have first senior's team, second reserves team
Speaker 2: and an under nineteens in first division, second division, and
Speaker 2: you had the VFL back in those days. Into the AFL.
Speaker 2: They just disappeared and then you head your like all competitions.
Speaker 2: Our population's gone through the roof. We seem to have
Speaker 2: far less. And I've said this plenty of times to you,
Speaker 2: But I mentioned in Northern Metropolitan Football it doesn't exist.
Speaker 2: So my old team, so Dominics doesn't exist. Neither does
Speaker 2: the league in the fastest growing corridor in the country.
Speaker 2: All right, I'm with you, Mant Thanks Dairs, Brian, you
Speaker 2: can go with this Hawks signings.
Speaker 1: Let's address the elephant in the room. Sam Mitchell's signings
Speaker 1: of Battle and Barrass haven't worked out, and Sisley's impact
Speaker 1: has dropped off a cliff as a system no longer works.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't the Hawks have been better off using that money
Speaker 1: to chase Tom Lynch from the Tigers.
Speaker 2: Brian bra I think to have a drug test for you.
Speaker 1: It hasn't quite worked. But they're a lot further in
Speaker 1: front than they were this time last year.
Speaker 2: Tom Lynch from the Tigers the tolls.
Speaker 1: Well, I think I think what he's saying is he
Speaker 1: should he have gone after key Ford and said some
Speaker 1: more key Boucks.
Speaker 2: I think that's I thought Battle and Brass worked for
Speaker 2: the first couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: They're all just trying to find their place.
Speaker 2: Of course, what is I would have thought. Siicly has
Speaker 2: just really banged up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's going to cook groin which is impacted.
Speaker 2: Major surgery on his shoulder in the preseason.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a knockdown effect. So Cicily and Scrimshaw are
Speaker 1: finding they've gone from taking the oppositions big boys with
Speaker 1: Frosty and now Battle and Brass to that. So where
Speaker 1: do we fit?
Speaker 2: And some times we said this when we bought big
Speaker 2: on Hawthorne when they were zero five last year. My
Speaker 2: buying was largely on the comeback of will Day, who
Speaker 2: I reckon is as could have the impact and play
Speaker 2: of Chris Chad. I think he's I think he's that
Speaker 2: good and I think he's so important to that Hawthorne side.
Speaker 2: He's been out. It's not just one thing. Obviously, people
Speaker 2: are going to work on Hawthorne now. You know, they
Speaker 2: brought a lot of attention on themselves and they're getting
Speaker 2: a lot of attention. They're now being coached against as
Speaker 2: opposed to ambushing clubs, so there's a lot of that
Speaker 2: in it. But I think Hawthorne still got a lot
Speaker 2: left in season twenty.
Speaker 1: Will be okay. They're in a much better launch pad
Speaker 1: this time compared to last year.
Speaker 2: I said Hawthorne and Stephen Quartermain's name came up. There
Speaker 2: you go, there's three names. Tell me read those three
Speaker 2: names of messages I've just received talking about Hawthorne number
Speaker 2: twenty three. There you go, I've invited into the box
Speaker 2: for Friday Night, which is filled up with Hawthorne blakes,
Speaker 2: and then give it to them. Win the pies, roll
Speaker 2: over them. Kai Broadcasting broadcast, We did a bit of
Speaker 2: broadcasting the other day. I just read it says, how
Speaker 2: do you feel about the new media landscape you're shaving
Speaker 2: up this season. How do you feel about the commentary teams?
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that. Friday Footy on Fox had what
Speaker 2: Hutson and Montana aw call in the game. It's like
Speaker 2: serving messed potatoes with a side of fries and hash brown.
Speaker 1: Well, I like all three of those. I'm a big
Speaker 1: potato mashed potatoes.
Speaker 2: I went to my auntie and uncle's place in Ireland
Speaker 2: and my wife, Carlor was with me. There were six
Speaker 2: types of potatoes. Yeah, it's colored potatoes, messed potatoes, boiled potatoes,
Speaker 2: roast potatoes, what else? And fries? And I ate them all.
Speaker 1: What a servant the potatoes.
Speaker 2: The Irish died when.
Speaker 1: NOCKI Jesus punches above, it's white. The potato.
Speaker 2: Kept the generations, kept the country alive. The old default
Speaker 2: was always one play by play, one color commotato. So
Speaker 2: maybe I'm just old fashion. But three play callers as
Speaker 2: lopsided as heck Well.
Speaker 1: I think Montagna was special comments, a bit of special comments.
Speaker 1: But his calling is really good too, Les Montagna.
Speaker 2: I like him, Yeah, I think you should. I like
Speaker 2: two commentators. I think one sometimes ends up becoming a
Speaker 2: bit monotonous, and I like the changeover when you have
Speaker 2: two calls. So when I called on Fox Footy, I
Speaker 2: actually said I want to have a second caller, not
Speaker 2: because of any other reason other than I called a
Speaker 2: couple of own was it no problem? But I liked
Speaker 2: the idea of flicking between the two picks the play
Speaker 2: and as the game changes, so when there's a turnover
Speaker 2: and get into it and it keeps the energy up.
Speaker 2: Is the way I like it.
Speaker 1: I think you're too tough on potatoes, Kui agreg the commission.
Speaker 1: Why does edithink? Sorry stadium? Why does anythink it's acceptable
Speaker 1: for God to continue for another term? The AFL needs strong, clear,
Speaker 1: overt leadership. The pendulum has swung to NRL. Look at
Speaker 1: the daily media reporting generally now more NRL than AFL
Speaker 1: five years ago. The opposite this is urgent vision and
Speaker 1: action is needed.
Speaker 2: But I think what again? I think what we need
Speaker 2: to do is have a good look at where we
Speaker 2: are all over the place, and so if it needs change, yeah,
Speaker 2: but before we say we need change, let's find out
Speaker 2: who the change agent will be. But I think that
Speaker 2: I think it's time for a good refresh at the AFL.
Speaker 2: Whether that means Richard Gorda goes or not. But I
Speaker 2: certainly think that there needs to be a refresh, And yeah,
Speaker 2: I think they need to. You're not worked really well
Speaker 2: the War Council during COVID we had, you know, and
Speaker 2: we don't want to go back to the old days.
Speaker 2: Whether the presidents are in there pushing their own barrow,
Speaker 2: but they're doing that now anyway. I think they have
Speaker 2: far more lobbying capacity than what they used to do
Speaker 2: in the old commission days.
Speaker 1: Do you have a line of sight at all? And
Speaker 1: announced I know? But when IFL is a big glacier
Speaker 1: when it comes to decision making, do we know when
Speaker 1: the goid decision is going to be, well, no, he's
Speaker 1: moving on or yes he's no?
Speaker 2: I think, I think, I don't think. I know that
Speaker 2: Richard wants to stay on for another term or at
Speaker 2: least until a transition comes into play. There is a
Speaker 2: couple of positions up at the moment. See what's also
Speaker 2: happened is the AFL Commissioner has now become you know
Speaker 2: where you need to have x amount of women on
Speaker 2: the commission, which is a good thing. You also have
Speaker 2: to have said now we have to have an Indigenous
Speaker 2: commissioner once. One time we had five commissioners and they
Speaker 2: were it was on and you know, supply and demand.
Speaker 2: People wanted to be on there, really good people and
Speaker 2: it was you know, once you start to spread it
Speaker 2: out and become single issue senators, then you end up
Speaker 2: like the Senate. And so I think we need to
Speaker 2: get a few people in there.
Speaker 1: Do we know by finals time or is it no?
Speaker 2: No, I don't know. Well they've they've had the the
Speaker 2: selection committee, which I've sat on over the journey, and
Speaker 2: I sat on it when we appointed the first ever
Speaker 2: female commissioner and I said at the time, rather than
Speaker 2: get rid of Bill Kelty, who was a very very
Speaker 2: very very very good commissioner, sensational commissioner, so important, we'll
Speaker 2: just add one on which CAROLINEI also remember at the
Speaker 2: time going having conniptions because she thought that it was
Speaker 2: just adding on that it was a token position. What
Speaker 2: I wanted to was actually strengthen and Sam Moston, who
Speaker 2: has gone on to become the Governor General of Australia,
Speaker 2: got the job because she was from New South Wales.
Speaker 2: She was connected up there and we needed to get
Speaker 2: women into the whole idea and she was a great
Speaker 2: champion of women's football and had an impact. Linda Dessau
Speaker 2: at that stage was the other option who went on
Speaker 2: to become the governor of Victoria, and Linda is sensational.
Speaker 2: Why she didn't get up was that I think we
Speaker 2: had two essenon people on there as it was three
Speaker 2: out of six was going to be a bit too
Speaker 2: much at that stage. So then she evn became a commissioner.
Speaker 2: She got on eventually and was a wonderful commissioner. Some
Speaker 2: have actually said maybe she should be the next chair
Speaker 2: and be that position as a chair as opposed to
Speaker 2: an executive chairperson. There's a lot of things to look
Speaker 2: out there, but no, I think there's no doubt that
Speaker 2: we need.
Speaker 1: To So do you think it will happen in the
Speaker 1: coming months? Another thing we talk about for eight months
Speaker 1: and I don't know.
Speaker 2: I can't get people to answer that question at the moment,
Speaker 2: to be curious, to be absolutely honest, that's a question
Speaker 2: that I'm asking as well.
Speaker 1: Thanks for that one, Brenda. Helping players, I'm a heartbroken
Speaker 1: Eagle supporter living in Melbourne. How can I volunteer and help,
Speaker 1: especially with the afl W welfare seriously, after recent events,
Speaker 1: how can a member of the general public help our
Speaker 1: boys and.
Speaker 2: Girls well, bring the club, send a letter, Brenda, these
Speaker 2: are professional organizations and you don't want enthusiastic amateurs. You
Speaker 2: don't want to have too many people in the place.
Speaker 2: I have a say, which I'm going to I'll say,
Speaker 2: but then let me correct it. Okay, Well, but volunteers
Speaker 2: can cost you a fortune. Okay, the right volunteers are
Speaker 2: worth their weight in gold. Hopefully you're the right one, Brenda.
Speaker 2: But what you don't need is more people just around
Speaker 2: the place, and you need people who can actually contribute
Speaker 2: in the areas that you need contribution. So I agree
Speaker 2: with Brenda. There's nothing better than having people there supporting
Speaker 2: particularly aflw particularly vfl or Sandful or Waffle. In those situations,
Speaker 2: the senior teams have probably got enough. But yeah, I
Speaker 2: think there's always need for welfare. And that's part of
Speaker 2: the reason why Jimmy and I I think in concert
Speaker 2: and saying that the soft cap needs to be addressed
Speaker 2: and fast.
Speaker 1: Ye I want to ask you next one, because you're
Speaker 1: mister Stadiah. Could the AFL think big sell Marvel's air rights?
Speaker 2: I'm sure and to build above.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, yeah, that makes sense now and use
Speaker 1: the proceeds to build a sixty to sixty five k
Speaker 1: seat roofed stadium and a world class golf course in
Speaker 1: Royal Park.
Speaker 2: Stop. So, Royal Park is not the spot because they'll
Speaker 2: never let anything. They turned it from football grounds back
Speaker 2: in the day around the Royal Children's Hospital now into
Speaker 2: passive recreation, wetlands and an oasis and it works, works well.
Speaker 2: So no, it's a Royal park. But I like your
Speaker 2: thinking because it's I like it because it's a lot
Speaker 2: like mine on this way.
Speaker 1: So I'll finish off part of the rest of the
Speaker 1: Neil suggestion. The park has, so just to continue, the
Speaker 1: park has rail, tram and free way access and even
Speaker 1: the airport skybus can drop people from the airport of
Speaker 1: the gate. It also gives essenon Carlton and North and
Speaker 1: the booming Northwest Corridor which you're spoken about at doorstop venue.
Speaker 1: Royal Park hosted footy in the eighteen sixties. This would
Speaker 1: be a true homecoming and Melbourne tecond beating heart of sport.
Speaker 2: Okay, no, because Royal Park won't happen.
Speaker 1: Okay, just but that whole concept another.
Speaker 2: Pre concepts good, So where would I go. I've promulgated
Speaker 2: the idea of selling Marvel getting whatever you can for
Speaker 2: it there because it's probably had it stay. Yeah, my word,
Speaker 2: that's it. But that that's like Waverley, We've got that
Speaker 2: built this. The two areas I'd like to look at
Speaker 2: is I'd like to look at building a fantastic stadium
Speaker 2: at Gosh's Paddock, getting rid of Amy Park, but really
Speaker 2: building something great that could.
Speaker 1: Be for give it to the rectangle stadium purpose. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's fantastic for this the rectangle sport.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not as fantastic as you think. It's all right,
Speaker 2: it's okay.
Speaker 1: Did you apply it and saying that, yeah exactly.
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is that that that doesn't mean
Speaker 2: we lose the rectangular stadium. I would I'd probably fix
Speaker 2: up the athletic stadium a bit more down there as well.
Speaker 2: Gives you an opportunity for some of the smaller games.
Speaker 2: But if you built something that could have the roof
Speaker 2: for concerts and really turning something along the lines of
Speaker 2: what they've done at the bernabout in at ACMA Land. Okay,
Speaker 2: you have a look at that and you'll get look
Speaker 2: at look it up in YouTube and look at what
Speaker 2: they do with the floor and what they do with
Speaker 2: the ceiling. The whole thing is fantastic. The other one, though,
Speaker 2: if you want to sort of stay down that end,
Speaker 2: is there's a block of an area of land called eGate.
Speaker 2: Have you ever heard of eGate?
Speaker 1: Took me where we so?
Speaker 2: Gate is another two Anthony Rocker torpedoes from Marvel.
Speaker 1: Stadium heading towards the big wheel.
Speaker 2: Further down go past the wheel, So it's the area. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that wheel's on the closer to the water gates on
Speaker 2: the other side of big block of land there you've
Speaker 2: got you know, the old Market gardens is a ton
Speaker 2: of land there that people have been looking at for
Speaker 2: a long time. So that's even closer to proper where
Speaker 2: I think the new Arden station and things that are happening.
Speaker 2: So so it all works. So to Neil's point, that's
Speaker 2: probably the place. So can you get enough money out
Speaker 2: of the commercial rights for Marvel and buyl that over
Speaker 2: and build an e Gate stadium there that also works
Speaker 2: for women's football and all those sorts of things. That's
Speaker 2: where I'd be heading. Don't forget, We've got to build
Speaker 2: this as well at some stage.
Speaker 1: And you want a roof on this well, I think
Speaker 1: people aren't awag You and I both blend a sofa.
Speaker 1: It's a roof, but it's kind of a I don't
Speaker 1: think it is a marble roof.
Speaker 2: No, it's an outdoor roof, if you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I mean. The other one to have a look at
Speaker 2: for everybody is have a look at Frankfort Stadium and
Speaker 2: what they do with their It's almost like an umbrella
Speaker 2: opening up and that would then give you the opportunity
Speaker 2: to have a big screen in the middle of the
Speaker 2: ground as well, obviously high enough for the ball, doesn't
Speaker 2: it a bit you know what I mean? And and
Speaker 2: really get this place humming. But we need to do
Speaker 2: more with that. The big the big ass and state
Speaker 2: government doesn't have the money that it once has, no,
Speaker 2: but there's money elsewhere. You've got to think, where are
Speaker 2: we going to be in twenty twenty fifty with this
Speaker 2: stadium or at least twenty forty twenty thirty five. Last
Speaker 2: year Collingwood and Melbourne stopped in the last quarter for
Speaker 2: forty five minutes. If that had been for a place
Speaker 2: in the finals, people have been having gone berserk. Lightning
Speaker 2: is the thing, whether you're at climate denial or whatever,
Speaker 2: climate has changed.
Speaker 1: Part of this is to update the couple of the
Speaker 1: train stations around you too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that that whole connection, and we should be
Speaker 2: connecting into Melbourne Olympic Park, trust into that Tennis center.
Speaker 2: That should be the area where you are. You know,
Speaker 2: I look at it as well, Jimmy, and I say, Okay,
Speaker 2: what's changed now even in the last two months. You've
Speaker 2: got to queue up a lot longer now to get
Speaker 2: in since those knuckleheads brought the guns in. Do you
Speaker 2: do that? Well, maybe it's better if you actually instead
Speaker 2: of being up the pubs in Swan streeta in the city,
Speaker 2: instead of landing here with a minute ago, if you
Speaker 2: actually were inside the stadium, have already done your entry,
Speaker 2: you've done your checks and there's things to do. That's
Speaker 2: that's where life's going, I believe. But Neil A great Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a great question one clearly that we've been talking
Speaker 2: thinking about, and yeah, all that is on the table,
Speaker 2: but everyone seems to just tighten up on how you
Speaker 2: go back getting the money. Whereas I look, you have
Speaker 2: a look at Tottenham Hotspur and you have a look
Speaker 2: at the Frankfurt Stadium and certainly look at the Bernabau
Speaker 2: and they can't jump over the money they're making now
Speaker 2: that they turned it into a different style of place. Again,
Speaker 2: you have got that over there that's a seventy story building.
Speaker 2: If it went that way right, it's empty, it's sort
Speaker 2: of full. Well, this week there's one game for three.
Speaker 2: If there's three on a weekend, that's what nine hours. Ye,
Speaker 2: Now there's ways of doing things. I mean, you know
Speaker 2: we're here because we've turned this box. There's no one
Speaker 2: else in any of the boxes. We've turned this into
Speaker 2: a studio because it makes sense to do something a
Speaker 2: bit different. So yeah, I think we need to have
Speaker 2: a look at it and just where we're going with
Speaker 2: all these things. Thank you, Neil great. They were all
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