WEBVTT - A Healthy Shift with Roger Sutherland - Thu 12 Jun, 2025

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<v Speaker 1>Story each and every week, every couple of weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 1>Well we haven't seen him for a month or so.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the one and only Roger Now Roger in his

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<v Speaker 1>hot little hand has his tickets are lusting from about

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty for the Kiss band.

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<v Speaker 2>Listeners, little tickets. Where are we going to see it?

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<v Speaker 1>Ooid Stadium?

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<v Speaker 2>Buy tickets to Kiss? Thanks so much, thank you. That'll

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<v Speaker 2>be four dollars fifty for those tickets. Roger Sutherland, Does

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<v Speaker 2>that bring back memories? Oh yes, Oh nineteen eighty Waveley Park,

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<v Speaker 2>the fifth of November, fifth of November. You even remember

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<v Speaker 2>the date? Oh yes, the fifth of November. Did you

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<v Speaker 2>buy any merch?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I did not. No ten notes. No, I know one

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<v Speaker 2>thing I can tell you. Dennis was talking about queueing.

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<v Speaker 2>He was two days I queued to get into Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>We camped there. We camped at Waverley Park. As a

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen year old, I was so you.

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<v Speaker 1>Mom and Dad said, oh, well, if you go go

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<v Speaker 1>and camp there for a couple.

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<v Speaker 2>Of days, see if you can get your tickets. Really

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<v Speaker 2>I ran away, I left home. Yeah, I was going

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<v Speaker 2>to see Kiss come Hella high Water. That was how

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<v Speaker 2>it was.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not long before you became a long serving

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<v Speaker 1>forty year member of the police service here in Victor.

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<v Speaker 2>Four years later. Yeah, four years later was a cop.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's bizarre, isn't it. That was great training. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>realize it was so close now that I put it

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<v Speaker 2>like that. Four years that's crazy, isn't I know?

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<v Speaker 1>So you were at your only twenty You had your

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five. It was twenty when I started. Yep, unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>Come and join us out. Roger's here for those that

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<v Speaker 1>don't know where. Roger is a regular tribute.

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<v Speaker 2>To the program and looks after a website called a

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<v Speaker 2>Healthy Shift. We talk about all.

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<v Speaker 1>Things to do with being a shift worker. Well, you

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<v Speaker 1>call this being healthy. You look at me, Look at me,

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<v Speaker 1>Look at.

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<v Speaker 2>Me, looking a picture of health.

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<v Speaker 1>You're looking well though I've got to say I lost

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of kilos, but you look well and so

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<v Speaker 1>feel pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And you've got to get the.

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<v Speaker 1>Right sleep and right lighting and all that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But feel really good.

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<v Speaker 2>If I could just get rid of this nagging little cough,

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<v Speaker 2>which Den's got as well. Yeah, but I've been warned,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been given the notes. Many laugh on it. Do

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<v Speaker 2>not make Tony laugh on it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when I start to cough chronically cough tears. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about first responders in justin Do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>take some of these great calls that we've got plenty

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<v Speaker 1>of people to talk to.

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<v Speaker 2>Anything to do, anything on the.

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<v Speaker 1>Program is open line, of course, but you can feel

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<v Speaker 1>the I'll say that again.

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<v Speaker 2>Come and jump on board and be part of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever been to Israel? You and I should go.

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<v Speaker 2>I have not been to Israel. We should take a

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<v Speaker 2>whole bunch of people to Israel at some point. We

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<v Speaker 2>still will do the show from the Pyramids that year. Sorry, excellent.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't done well, have I?

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<v Speaker 3>So?

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't been there a geography David, Good.

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<v Speaker 5>Morning, good morning.

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<v Speaker 6>If you did it from the Pyramids, you'd be in Egypt.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 6>I wouldn't tell the Egyptians.

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<v Speaker 5>That you're in Israel.

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<v Speaker 6>But there's plenty of great bass you can from here too.

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<v Speaker 2>I've made a big mistake, you have.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to have some of that beautiful wine that's

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<v Speaker 1>been producing on some of those old vines in Israel

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<v Speaker 1>for many, many hundreds of years.

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<v Speaker 2>Gee, they do some correct wine in that part of

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<v Speaker 2>the world.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, good one here and if you do it, you

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<v Speaker 6>can do the show for my living room and I

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<v Speaker 6>will tie you with good Israeli wine, beer and Pablo

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<v Speaker 6>them so better than it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so complimentary accommodation. All we need really is air fares.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, we'll get We'll get Nathan Costa lives over on.

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<v Speaker 2>The private jet. Nathan cost can fly us over. It's

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<v Speaker 2>going beautifully so far. This is this has been a

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<v Speaker 2>really worth while giga. We can go now.

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<v Speaker 6>By Stephen Beer's private jet. I mean surely you've got one.

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<v Speaker 2>And you would think you would have access to one.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Anyway, I tell you why I called because I'm not

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<v Speaker 6>sure I'm going to be able to get on tomorrow

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<v Speaker 6>and it's sorry the twelfth in Australia, even though it's

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<v Speaker 6>twenty eleven ten. I wanted to wish you happy early

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<v Speaker 6>birthday Friday and hope it's a beautiful day and that

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<v Speaker 6>you are treated very very nicely by the callers and

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<v Speaker 6>by the family and by the friends.

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<v Speaker 1>David, that's very very very kind of You're the first

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<v Speaker 1>cab to do that and that's much appreciated.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you believe that.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not my first This is now my second

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<v Speaker 1>birthday hosting this program, and as you well know, David,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gone very buddy quickly, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Really quickly.

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<v Speaker 6>You've done a good job.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's still to be decided, David.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of people saying you bring back Simon,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's fine.

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<v Speaker 6>Look, you share it around.

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<v Speaker 2>We do share it around. And I appreciate that you

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<v Speaker 2>were saying that. It's very kind of you. All else

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<v Speaker 2>is well in the world, all the world. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, if we hopefully we might talk tomorrow. You

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<v Speaker 2>look after yourself and thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>For putting up your room for rent, room for rent,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll come and have us stay and do the

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<v Speaker 1>broadcast from there, and opening the bar, and opening the

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<v Speaker 1>bar with all the cracking wine that he's got in

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<v Speaker 1>stock and enjoys the occasion a little whiskey as well.

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<v Speaker 2>What could possibly go wrong? Graham?

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<v Speaker 5>Your kind morning, Graham, How are you tony?

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<v Speaker 2>We're well? Thank you? Rogers here Roger Sutherland from a

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<v Speaker 2>healthy shift, Good morning, Greg.

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<v Speaker 1>Roger's placement is he's a four couple, forty years in

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<v Speaker 1>the service.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I did forty years.

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<v Speaker 5>My god, you'd have seen as many things as I've

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<v Speaker 5>seen what whereabouts?

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<v Speaker 2>What have you seen? No, don't start.

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<v Speaker 5>I did a little stink with el on the bond

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<v Speaker 5>and can't it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you would have seen plenty.

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<v Speaker 5>I learned plenty. Don't worry about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got no doubt about that at all.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, the good thing about games jailer is you

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<v Speaker 5>will earn the major problem. And I think this was

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<v Speaker 5>like twenty four years ago. The major problem was drugs.

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<v Speaker 5>Like criminals, they don't really want to see your money

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<v Speaker 5>for any other reason, scept by truck.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree. I could not agree more with you. It's

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<v Speaker 2>everything comes back to that, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 5>It looks sad, sad. Really it was interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>It was actually being talked about on three a W

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<v Speaker 1>in the last twenty four to thirty six hours crame.

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<v Speaker 2>Where as some of those people, oh okay.

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<v Speaker 5>Yous, I was getting my chemo treatment. That the WA

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<v Speaker 5>public system here at Charlie Gardener is brilliant. I was

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<v Speaker 5>in there for eight days. They gave me all the treatment.

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<v Speaker 5>They looked after me like a bloody king, and all

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<v Speaker 5>the nurses running around, cracking joke for them and breaking

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<v Speaker 5>free cups of seir. And we'll be back at work

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<v Speaker 5>painting in the outside of the house tomorrow. So good

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<v Speaker 5>was good?

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<v Speaker 2>Then? How are you feeling great?

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<v Speaker 5>Great? Feel fantastic? So this this is this new trial

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<v Speaker 5>program where they've got a mixture of chemo with something else.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, they just give you a needle in the stomach.

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<v Speaker 5>Only on the fourth day and the eighth day and

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<v Speaker 5>the rest of the days you take pills and eat

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<v Speaker 5>the free food and get the free coffee and check

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<v Speaker 5>out all the good looking nurses. What life couldn't get better?

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<v Speaker 2>Mate, I provide you with scenery as well as all that.

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<v Speaker 5>Getting back to you, Roger. When I came out, I

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<v Speaker 5>did a a half hour show with spread from Africa.

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<v Speaker 5>I came out in two thousand, November two thousand, and

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<v Speaker 5>I tied him. Then the biggest problem is going to

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<v Speaker 5>be drugs in the bloody thing, because you could see

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<v Speaker 5>it right in the system and there was no she

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<v Speaker 5>can't never had a fence round up there. There was

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<v Speaker 5>quite huge for people to have just dropped bloody. So

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<v Speaker 5>I went out one day. I was out near the

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<v Speaker 5>Servantine road and there was this big silver package right

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<v Speaker 5>elf squoiled and I picked it up with impressed cannibate.

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<v Speaker 5>I put it back again and I went back in

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<v Speaker 5>and Aline said, did you report it? I said, do

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<v Speaker 5>you know how long I'd last if I reported that?

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<v Speaker 1>It's an interesting observation, Graham, thank you for that. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>leave you there, except to say I heard on three

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<v Speaker 1>ow Roger that there was inside the culture of say prisons,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, there was a level of satisfaction with those

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<v Speaker 1>if certain medications, drugs if you like, were available, because

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<v Speaker 1>then there was no there was less damage and violence

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<v Speaker 1>in the prison. I've got no doubt. And so there

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<v Speaker 1>was this mixed emotion about it. Whilst it's wrongs is illegal.

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<v Speaker 1>You and I say, well, why would you? The reality

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<v Speaker 1>is it was a way of keeping a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of peace and.

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<v Speaker 2>Kept order, that kept order, that kept order. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>just keeps a bit of order.

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<v Speaker 1>Chears when we come back here, we want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about given them. He beautifully kicked it off for us.

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<v Speaker 2>Graham.

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<v Speaker 1>In terms of first responders, a massive day yesterday. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it again this morning. First responder is how

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<v Speaker 1>important they are right across Australia. Wherever you're tuned in

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<v Speaker 1>might be five double A and Adelaide. We're here at

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<v Speaker 1>three A W in Melbourne. Of courses, the ACE Radio

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<v Speaker 1>Network and six P in Perth. Come join us one

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<v Speaker 1>double three six nine three Perth listeners, one double three

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<v Speaker 1>eight eighty two. I'm Tony McManus. Roger Sutherland is here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a healthy shift to all part of Australia overnight.

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<v Speaker 2>We love being here.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you love being part of the program as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Encourage you to do so. One double three six nine three.

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<v Speaker 1>Roger Sutherland, a long serving police officer here in Victoria,

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<v Speaker 1>survived it for forty years these days specialized as a

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<v Speaker 1>range of things. A veteran law enforcement officer, he now

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<v Speaker 1>coaches people to well, you'd almost say thrive, not just survive,

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<v Speaker 1>because many of us go through life trying to survive.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's more about thriving and he works with shift

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<v Speaker 1>workers to provide ed you do the things they love

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<v Speaker 1>outside the shift work. It's an interesting program and one

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<v Speaker 1>that's still got a long way to play out. But

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<v Speaker 1>going well, are you're allowed to announce make that announcement

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<v Speaker 1>as yet or you'd rather not returning.

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<v Speaker 2>To the fold for a little bit. Yeah, yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm actually been invited this week. I'm going back into

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<v Speaker 2>the Fold at Victoria Police which has taken quite a

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<v Speaker 2>bit for me to do, but I've been invited to

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<v Speaker 2>go and speak at the Women in Policing events and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just so looking forward to doing this because women

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<v Speaker 2>do shift work a lot harder, or females do shift

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<v Speaker 2>work a lot harder than males do, and I focus

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<v Speaker 2>predominantly on females and helping them with shift work. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>well read in that area. Once again, I'll never know

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<v Speaker 2>what it's like, but I study it pretty hard, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go and help and educate at the

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<v Speaker 2>Women in Policing about how females can go about doing

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<v Speaker 2>shift work a lot better on I'm actually I'm nervous,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm really excited about it, which is fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it about the people themselves or is it about

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<v Speaker 1>the leadership group that you've also got to embrace and

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<v Speaker 1>they need to embrace some of those things about which

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<v Speaker 1>you've been talking now.

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<v Speaker 2>For at least a couple of years. The leadership is

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<v Speaker 2>something that what I'm trying to do is bring brand awareness,

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<v Speaker 2>bring my awareness, because managers don't know that I exist.

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<v Speaker 2>If people don't put it up to say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got a blokeout here that's done forty years a

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<v Speaker 2>shift work that is actually educating on how to go

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<v Speaker 2>about shift work. Organizations, not just fit Pole, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>talking all organizations, nursing and everything don't educate their staff

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<v Speaker 2>at all about how to go about shift work when

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<v Speaker 2>they should when they should sleep, and then they don't

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<v Speaker 2>actually consolidated. Everyone just learns from one thing to the next.

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<v Speaker 2>So what I'm trying to do is change that. I

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<v Speaker 2>want people to be educated on how to go about

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<v Speaker 2>doing shift work because I can tell you Tony now,

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<v Speaker 2>the seminars the feedback, but just been invited back to

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<v Speaker 2>Port Fairy to go back and do a seminar down

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<v Speaker 2>there at sun Farmer. The feedback out of that has

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<v Speaker 2>been absolutely unbelievable. The unplanned leavers reduced, the morale is

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<v Speaker 2>improved in the place. People have all said, I had

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<v Speaker 2>no idea I could do it this way and it

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<v Speaker 2>would be so much easier, and they are all coping

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<v Speaker 2>so much better in that. So historically it hasn't been

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<v Speaker 2>addressed at all at all, at all.

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, it's such an important part of Australian culture

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<v Speaker 1>and Australian work life.

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<v Speaker 2>If I saved one ship, if I was to save

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<v Speaker 2>one shift worker for vic Pole. It would save them

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred thousand dollars right because they it's that year's salary.

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<v Speaker 2>They wouldn't have to re educate, they wouldn't have to

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<v Speaker 2>retrain do everything else. But and yet when I tell

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<v Speaker 2>them what my seminars were, Oh, it's too expensive, coach,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, are you kidding? You haven't got a budget

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<v Speaker 2>for them. We haven't got the budget for that. But

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<v Speaker 2>and the you know, Big Pole have closed down health

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<v Speaker 2>and well being centers now as well, which has been

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<v Speaker 2>public You know, they're closing their health and well being centers.

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<v Speaker 2>So are we really caring about our people? We've got

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<v Speaker 2>to start well. One of the principles of vick Pole

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<v Speaker 2>is valuing our people. How are we valuing them if

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<v Speaker 2>we're not supporting them and educating them on how to

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<v Speaker 2>go about it from from womb to too in that sense?

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<v Speaker 1>Really David and Matt Waverley, Hello, good morning. It was

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<v Speaker 1>very very funny about the story of Grumpy Tony. It'll

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<v Speaker 1>never get in the airplane, but it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Very very clever.

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<v Speaker 4>It's very clever, so I hope you like it. I

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<v Speaker 4>can consider it a birthday present. Thank you. Now, I

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<v Speaker 4>rang to say, yes, I came down at the showgrounds

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<v Speaker 4>for three days to get kiss tickets.

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<v Speaker 2>I can understand that. Do you remember, have you still

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<v Speaker 2>got your ticket? David?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I do, see my friends, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I've still got my ticket. I still have my ticket.

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately it doesn't have the price on it, which I

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<v Speaker 2>wish it did. Were any idea what they would have been?

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<v Speaker 2>I reckon it was. I think from memory and you

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<v Speaker 2>can tell me, David. Would it have been nineteen dollars?

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<v Speaker 2>I got a film? How much twenty twenty, nineteen ninety

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that? It was twenty bucks? Yeah, for

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<v Speaker 2>the ticket and we all camp down. We all camped

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<v Speaker 2>out for days to get the tickets, and then we

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<v Speaker 2>had to camp out again. We had to camp out

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<v Speaker 2>again to actually get in because it was general admission.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember how hot it was? And the food fight.

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<v Speaker 5>It was horrible?

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<v Speaker 2>It was and they were throwing ice buckets all over

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<v Speaker 2>the people standing there, and the food fight once you

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<v Speaker 2>got inside it was it was actually you can go

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<v Speaker 2>YouTube that if your YouTube food fight Waverly Park kids,

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<v Speaker 2>it comes up. It's unbelievable food fight.

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<v Speaker 4>And then the MT comes out and says, you idiots,

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<v Speaker 4>you need to come down.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, otherwise kiss aren't coming out. So let me just done.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking to her brother. Go anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Just explained to we was somebody who was not there

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<v Speaker 1>around Australia. What happens at a food fight? People were

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<v Speaker 1>leaving anything. I don't happen how it started. The stupid

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<v Speaker 1>thing was we went to hide behind one of the cops.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't do that. Don't ever hide behind the cops because

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<v Speaker 2>they're the ones that have been having the food thrown

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<v Speaker 2>at them. Such such fun someone educated at sixteen and

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<v Speaker 2>someone else has put a text up here as well.

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<v Speaker 2>David Steve from North Kid. I camped there on the Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 2>on the wednesdays. Now it was on Saturday night the show,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was there from the friday. He was already

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<v Speaker 2>there two days before me. Now he would be one

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<v Speaker 2>of the people that was burning the pine poles to

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<v Speaker 2>keep warm as well overnight. That went really well, David

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<v Speaker 2>se Aarnie, Morning, mister Miaggi.

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<v Speaker 7>Good morning, Tony Roger and Action Jackson. Now you mentioned

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<v Speaker 7>B twenty four mile ladder, answer it or for later on?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the question was going to be how did D

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four get its name? So go ahead.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know how I've got his name, but I

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<v Speaker 7>went now with a few cops. I believe it was

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<v Speaker 7>D twenty four, which is a communications line to call

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<v Speaker 7>the police, and it was a quicker response to VKC.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, okay. So D twenty four is the nickname

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<v Speaker 2>that's given to the communications center. I want to challenge

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<v Speaker 2>anybody out there, do you know why it is called

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<v Speaker 2>D twenty four. It's only called D twenty four here

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<v Speaker 2>in Victoriaia, in not interstate, so unfortunately we'll rule the

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<v Speaker 2>South Australians and the West Australians out put. Would they

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<v Speaker 2>have their own version? They don't have a detail. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. Maybe they do, they are It's always VKC

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<v Speaker 2>is the allocated call signed by the Department of Communications.

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<v Speaker 2>So they say VKC. This is VKC two know the

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<v Speaker 2>mulven Van or VKC two whatever. But their nickname is

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<v Speaker 2>D twenty four. How did they earn that nickname? Why

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<v Speaker 2>did they earn that nickname? I want to hear from someone.

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<v Speaker 1>Anybody happened to be listening in South Australia. My great

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<v Speaker 1>friend Peter Graham was a long serving commission towards the end.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure he worked in comms in South Australia

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<v Speaker 1>going back to the early part of the eighties as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure he would be he'd know what nicknames

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<v Speaker 1>there in that state.

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<v Speaker 2>Because even he, even the junior bundies that would have

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<v Speaker 2>no idea probably why D twenty four is called D

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four, would still say get onto the board or

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<v Speaker 2>get onto D twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>Former Commissioner of course in the wa Carlo Callahan, who

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<v Speaker 1>did a lot of workout six PR in Perth, might

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<v Speaker 1>be listening as well. He'd have some background on some

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<v Speaker 1>of those names in wa.

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<v Speaker 2>Ardie, thank you. In Elfington, Hello Simon.

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<v Speaker 8>Bill Guys. I'm just looking at what's going on in

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<v Speaker 8>America with companies falling into marines and all that sort

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<v Speaker 8>of stuff. I hope we never get to that stage here.

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<v Speaker 8>But I look at the bigions of dollars that are

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<v Speaker 8>being wasted in Victoria. Why don't we just double the

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<v Speaker 8>wages of the police force and bring.

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<v Speaker 9>In some really top kids two protect the state and

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<v Speaker 9>stop all the clime and make it worthwhile. Give them

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<v Speaker 9>a free education if they.

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<v Speaker 8>Want, you know, to go to UNI.

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<v Speaker 9>Just offer them some incentives to be a police and.

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<v Speaker 5>Climb enforcement officer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, I couldn't agree more. But simon, I think we're

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<v Speaker 2>not addressing it right that banning machetes makes it a

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<v Speaker 2>retail problem. This is not a retail Yeah, it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>You and I've talked about this. It's not. So why

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<v Speaker 2>is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Why is it being from a government point of view,

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<v Speaker 1>from a government position of sort of saying the answer

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<v Speaker 1>to this is, let's ban machete.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we banned guns work, does it? We banned guns

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<v Speaker 2>and people still have guns. Yeah, but guns don't kill

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<v Speaker 2>people and machetes don't kill people. Now you're sounding like

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<v Speaker 2>somebody in in the middle of America. No, but guns

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<v Speaker 2>don't kill people. It's the it's the person that's holding

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<v Speaker 2>onto it, right, And that's what's got to be addressed.

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<v Speaker 2>In my opinion, we have to address that. We have

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<v Speaker 2>to address where these issues are coming from. You can't.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, guns are banned, you're not allowed to have

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<v Speaker 2>a gun. But people have guns and they kill because

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<v Speaker 2>the person pulls the trigger. Machete is a band now,

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<v Speaker 2>but machetes are still turning up and they will continue

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<v Speaker 2>to turn up because we're not addressing.

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<v Speaker 1>The real problem. Well on Tom Elliott's program took some

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<v Speaker 1>phone calls. I think either earlier this week or late

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<v Speaker 1>last week. I was listening on the way home from

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere and lots of people saying, oh heah, the readily available.

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<v Speaker 2>Still you can go online and buy it. It's taken

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<v Speaker 2>Amazon two weeks to decide we won't import them into

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<v Speaker 2>Australia anymore. But people are still going to have them,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're still going to turn up, and you can

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<v Speaker 2>still buy them for what you want to buy them for,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera. Fantastic A lot of calls here, Come.

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<v Speaker 4>And join them.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get the call of just to chick one double

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<v Speaker 1>three six nine three. I'm Tony McManus. The one and

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<v Speaker 1>only Roger Sutherland is here. We catch up with Roger

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<v Speaker 1>every couple of weeks or so. Well part of Australia

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<v Speaker 1>overnight it is three A W in Melbourne, the ACE

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<v Speaker 1>Radio network right through at Victoria and into southern parts

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<v Speaker 1>of New South Wales.

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<v Speaker 2>Where else are we?

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<v Speaker 1>Five double A in Adelaide, six pr in Birth and

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<v Speaker 1>Katie in Melbourne's on the phone.

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<v Speaker 10>Morning Katie, Hi, Tony, how how are you sorry? I'm

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<v Speaker 10>not saved to ask that I was just thringing about

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<v Speaker 10>the D twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>Now tell us about your history, if anything, how much

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<v Speaker 1>you can say I'm not sure about D twenty four.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, I asked the question oddly last week, following on

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<v Speaker 10>from a conversation about Jared Kennedy and.

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<v Speaker 2>Who is the actually Kennedy R Kennedy Division four.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, so I ended up asking the question at work

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<v Speaker 10>and the answer was that it was named after the room.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct, Yes, can you elaborate.

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<v Speaker 10>It where it was where those people worked, the first

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<v Speaker 10>responders to the emergency call, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Very very Victoria will give you the prize, Cody. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no prize, but the price if we have some baaderly won.

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<v Speaker 2>If we had a price, we'd give you a price.

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<v Speaker 2>But can I just say though Victoria Police were the

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<v Speaker 2>first police agency in Australia that had wireless communication, had

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<v Speaker 2>radio communication and it was out of Room twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>Corridor D at Russell Street. Isn't it a great piece?

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<v Speaker 2>That's why it's not as D twenty four and still

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<v Speaker 2>today even though it's no longer there, it's still known

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<v Speaker 2>as D twenty four. Is it a great piece of

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<v Speaker 2>the history? Pete, did you have a similar story along

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<v Speaker 2>those lines. Ind Albert, Yes, I did beat me to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you serve Pete?

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<v Speaker 8>No, No, not at all.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 5>I I think I saw it on a probably a

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<v Speaker 5>documentary on TV, some show I remember, just my mind

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<v Speaker 5>might be playing tricks, but I think they showed just

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<v Speaker 5>a picture of the door and D twenty four.

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<v Speaker 4>Written on it. But I knew from that correer well.

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<v Speaker 5>I believe that it was a room in the old.

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<v Speaker 8>Russell Street police headquarters.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what floor it was, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>on a mezzanine floor and it faced when the Russell

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<v Speaker 2>Street bomb went off. Of course, all the windows were

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<v Speaker 2>blown out of D twenty four as well, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was the bomb proof curtains that stopped the glassroom coming through.

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<v Speaker 2>They were still operating during the straight after the bomb

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<v Speaker 2>there that was operating, but above the door was literally

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<v Speaker 2>D two four because it was in corridor D. And

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<v Speaker 2>of course the room next to it was D twenty three,

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<v Speaker 2>and the room next it was D twenty two, and

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<v Speaker 2>so on and so forth. But yeah, it's great history.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a lovely piece of history. Peter, well done,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Still in mont Albert's Big mont Albert and mont Albert Hello, Lenny, Yes, Lynn,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead, yeah, day twenty four.

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<v Speaker 11>Now that that is absolutely correct. Main detectives in that

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<v Speaker 11>area there and there was also a place in Dawson

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<v Speaker 11>Street with the cop or Hollway cold cars and or

0:23:26.400 --> 0:23:31.600
<v Speaker 11>no sell things that behind there as is where they

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<v Speaker 11>saw the Bruige buses and that those days.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, good on your le some great memories around that.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's the acronym?

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<v Speaker 1>Just remind me about c I B criminal Investigation Branch, branch, bureau.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it went it was bureau, went branch, and then

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<v Speaker 2>it went to CRU, which is criminal Investigation Unit. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's what it is now CRU, not co B. No,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not c IB anymore. Was such an iconic turn. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>it's been in touch with the C like the internal

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<v Speaker 2>Investigations has changed names as well. It was it was

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<v Speaker 2>B eleven when I started, and then it went to eleven,

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<v Speaker 2>then it went to any PSC and then e SD

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<v Speaker 2>and it's changed. Well, someone gets a promotion and gets

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<v Speaker 2>a medal for it. Along the way the award design

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<v Speaker 2>a phone book ad.

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<v Speaker 12>He was great, Jimmy morning, Good morning, Tony, Roger, Jack,

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<v Speaker 12>We're all here.

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<v Speaker 2>What's happening in your world.

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<v Speaker 12>Not much. You mostly just appointments after appointments all the

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<v Speaker 12>time with John's.

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<v Speaker 2>Sick of good on your gym. What do you got

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<v Speaker 2>to go through that process?

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I do.

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<v Speaker 12>But anyway, good to speak to you, getting Roger and

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<v Speaker 12>Goodloe speaking. It was just speaking event Thanks enough. Bring

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<v Speaker 12>up about D twenty four. In all your years off

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<v Speaker 12>policemen of forty years you were, you based in one

0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:08.920
<v Speaker 12>or for several police stations and been the policeman for

0:25:09.080 --> 0:25:11.920
<v Speaker 12>forty years. I suppose you'd still know a lot of

0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:17.160
<v Speaker 12>policewomen and policemen still working these days. But the question

0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:20.960
<v Speaker 12>I have that I mainly rang up for a while back.

0:25:21.040 --> 0:25:27.280
<v Speaker 12>I heard on Jackie Felgate's show that they e bike

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<v Speaker 12>had blown up and held the train for a couple

0:25:31.160 --> 0:25:33.800
<v Speaker 12>of hours. I think it was on the Glen Waverley line.

0:25:34.200 --> 0:25:37.320
<v Speaker 12>When I used to ride my pushbike all over the place,

0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:39.359
<v Speaker 12>when I used to go far distances, I used to

0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:42.240
<v Speaker 12>put my bike on and the high Buz guys were there,

0:25:42.280 --> 0:25:46.280
<v Speaker 12>the guys trying to get their motor bikes on and

0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:50.640
<v Speaker 12>bikes with petrol motors, and they used to the guys

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<v Speaker 12>used to say, why aren't we allowed on? They said,

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<v Speaker 12>because of danger, because of explosion. So now a knee

0:25:56.720 --> 0:26:01.840
<v Speaker 12>bike battery is blown up. E bike's going to soon

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<v Speaker 12>be banned off training tooters.

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<v Speaker 2>A very good question. It's a great point, because there

0:26:07.560 --> 0:26:09.440
<v Speaker 2>is a problem. Did you say the vision of that

0:26:09.640 --> 0:26:12.760
<v Speaker 2>ship that was carrying I said, ship that was carrying

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<v Speaker 2>all the electric cars caught fire. Oh the and then

0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:18.680
<v Speaker 2>lost all those cars, about three thousand cars. Yeah. Yeah,

0:26:18.880 --> 0:26:20.320
<v Speaker 2>and they just had to leave it gone out. They

0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:22.040
<v Speaker 2>just had to leave it burn out there because of

0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:24.600
<v Speaker 2>the Yeah, they couldn't do anything. This is a problem

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<v Speaker 2>with the electric cars, and obviously with the e bikes

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<v Speaker 2>it's quite apart from the fact that they're just a

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<v Speaker 2>death trap with the way they're ridden around. I only

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<v Speaker 2>got cleaned up by one.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it goes back to you, it goes back to

0:26:35.880 --> 0:26:39.920
<v Speaker 1>your ideas. You said, it's not the guns, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>the machetes.

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<v Speaker 2>In this case, it's not the e bikes the dickheads

0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:47.200
<v Speaker 2>that the dicks that actually ride them. Well, if you

0:26:47.240 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 2>put a knee bike right there, right now, I'll guarantee

0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:51.720
<v Speaker 2>it won't hurt you. If you just put a knee

0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:53.440
<v Speaker 2>boat right there, just sitting there, it doesn't hurt you.

0:26:53.520 --> 0:26:56.320
<v Speaker 2>It's whoever gets on and controls it, that's the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what needs addressing. It's like the guns. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>the gun because a gun can sit there it will

0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:04.680
<v Speaker 2>never ever hurt you ever. But if someone picks it

0:27:04.800 --> 0:27:07.280
<v Speaker 2>up and they squeeze the trigger, then that's what needs addressing.

0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:10.840
<v Speaker 2>You can take guns out of society, you can take

0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:13.879
<v Speaker 2>machetes out of society. People are still going to get

0:27:13.920 --> 0:27:17.040
<v Speaker 2>hold of them. The problem's got to be addressed at

0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:20.639
<v Speaker 2>who's holding it? Yeah, who's holding it?

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<v Speaker 1>Except that in America it's out of control. So what's

0:27:22.800 --> 0:27:26.160
<v Speaker 1>the difference between the standard they take in America? Most

0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:29.040
<v Speaker 1>states in the United States even under their document, under

0:27:29.080 --> 0:27:35.720
<v Speaker 1>their the Constitution, and so that allows for that. And

0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:37.520
<v Speaker 1>yet in Australia we gave back.

0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:38.000
<v Speaker 2>All our guns.

0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:40.359
<v Speaker 1>We're not a gun culture for the most part, and

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:44.320
<v Speaker 1>we have nowhere near the level of deaths associated with

0:27:44.720 --> 0:27:45.840
<v Speaker 1>the firearms.

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:48.280
<v Speaker 2>And the other thing as well as suit I've always wondered,

0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:50.040
<v Speaker 2>when was the last time you heard that there was

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<v Speaker 2>an active shooter at a shopping center but some civilian

0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:56.760
<v Speaker 2>pulled their own gun out and took them out in Australia, No,

0:27:57.400 --> 0:28:00.520
<v Speaker 2>in the US, how often do you hear that? Never? Never.

0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:04.560
<v Speaker 2>They alsoay that they have got the right to bear arms.

0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:06.720
<v Speaker 2>But when was the last time that you heard that

0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:08.680
<v Speaker 2>there was an active shoot at a shopping center or

0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 2>in a car park, or there was an issue going on.

0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 2>But Tony McManus, the civilian, pulled his own firearm out

0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 2>and resolved this issue.

0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:19.280
<v Speaker 1>But it would be somebody who comes into your home

0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:21.960
<v Speaker 1>and you've got a gun license and your guns in storage.

0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:25.119
<v Speaker 2>Somebody comes into your home and you hold hold the

0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:26.320
<v Speaker 2>Just stay there.

0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:29.600
<v Speaker 1>I've got to go down to my safe. There's a

0:28:29.640 --> 0:28:33.320
<v Speaker 1>great comedian who did a great sketch on this whose name.

0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 2>Just a schedule. Come back to me in just a tick.

0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:37.639
<v Speaker 1>Stay there, I'm going to go get my gun. Don't

0:28:37.680 --> 0:28:40.080
<v Speaker 1>move you race down to the other end of the house.

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:43.440
<v Speaker 1>You open your safe, won't you remember the code twenty

0:28:43.560 --> 0:28:44.400
<v Speaker 1>four to the room.

0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:49.480
<v Speaker 2>I'll be there. And remember you can't store your ammunition

0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:52.280
<v Speaker 2>with your firearm. That's a separate but that's in another one.

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:55.800
<v Speaker 2>That's but hang on with your gun. Just hang on

0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:58.840
<v Speaker 2>with your assuredly. Yep, I'll be with you. It's bizarre,

0:28:59.040 --> 0:29:02.360
<v Speaker 2>It is bizarre. It is totally that's here in Australia.

0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:06.560
<v Speaker 2>But then we talk about in the US where I've

0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:09.120
<v Speaker 2>spoken to people that you know, they're just literally wearing

0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:12.840
<v Speaker 2>firearms on their hips, like handguns on their hips, but

0:29:13.000 --> 0:29:16.280
<v Speaker 2>they're never ever the ones that are resolving these issues.

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:18.640
<v Speaker 2>They're always standing back waiting for the cops to come in,

0:29:18.760 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 2>and they're the ones that are having to take control

0:29:21.640 --> 0:29:23.200
<v Speaker 2>of these situations. Why do we do this?

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<v Speaker 1>We'll come back, We'll go to Rob in Richmond and

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<v Speaker 1>it as well. Adrian's are more in come and join us.

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<v Speaker 1>One double three six nine three. We love acronyms on

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<v Speaker 1>the program. Acronyms. We're gonna have a lot of fun

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<v Speaker 1>with just acronyms. One morning, one double three six nine three.

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<v Speaker 1>It is Australia Overnight. Morning, Hey Robbie and Richmond, and

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for being part of Australia Overnight. I'm Tony

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<v Speaker 1>MCMANUSIR Rob and Roger Sutherland from a Healthy Shift is here.

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<v Speaker 13>Hello to you, Ah Yes, Good morning Tiny and good

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<v Speaker 13>morning Roger.

0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 4>Good morning to Roger.

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<v Speaker 13>Thanks for your multiple decades of service to the community

0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:04.640
<v Speaker 13>and respecting that you've been part of the force. I

0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:08.280
<v Speaker 13>wanted to run a couple of ideas past you sure.

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<v Speaker 13>Do you remember the game? As a child, you used

0:30:11.880 --> 0:30:17.600
<v Speaker 13>to play Spotto? Yes, yeah, Well why can't the community

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:21.320
<v Speaker 13>get involved? Like the police can publish a list of

0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:25.360
<v Speaker 13>the stolen cars and what the number plates are, and

0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:28.800
<v Speaker 13>if we see it out in front of us and

0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:31.760
<v Speaker 13>it's a black outy and the number plate doesn't match

0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:35.120
<v Speaker 13>the Big Roads website, then we can give you a

0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:39.280
<v Speaker 13>call and if that turns into tracking down a stolen car,

0:30:39.880 --> 0:30:44.360
<v Speaker 13>then you know, the person get a one hundred dollars

0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:48.400
<v Speaker 13>reward or something like that. Get the community involved, because

0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:51.720
<v Speaker 13>you hear often on the news by that car was

0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:57.440
<v Speaker 13>stolen in Beau Morren back in January around around.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. One of the biggest problems that we have is

0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 2>the database of stolen cars has so many car stolen.

0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:07.160
<v Speaker 2>How many people drive around? But you know what, Tony McManus,

0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:10.720
<v Speaker 2>here's that black billimw and he remembers something about the regio,

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:14.640
<v Speaker 2>and I hear about the white Audi, So I remember

0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:16.400
<v Speaker 2>something about the regio. Do you know what I mean?

0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:18.520
<v Speaker 2>So you could have a lot of people out there.

0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:21.320
<v Speaker 2>I can tell you where the problem lies. Who you're

0:31:21.320 --> 0:31:23.760
<v Speaker 2>going to call when you actually see it. You're going

0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:27.640
<v Speaker 2>to ring triple zero, and then it becomes a logistical

0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 2>nightmare to try and get And I know because I

0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 2>did this for twelve years. It's a logistical nightmare to

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:35.840
<v Speaker 2>get a police unit, which we have hardly any of

0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:40.320
<v Speaker 2>on the road to get to you to where you

0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 2>are with that car driving around. And don't get me wrong,

0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:47.680
<v Speaker 2>I can certainly see people ring I see things, and

0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:49.240
<v Speaker 2>I think there's no point ringing. No one's going to

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:51.920
<v Speaker 2>be able to get to me anyway. Now, Yeah, and

0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:53.560
<v Speaker 2>this is the problem because.

0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Where has that always been the problem. I don't know

0:31:56.080 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 1>that that's a new problem. It's always been a new

0:31:58.000 --> 0:31:59.960
<v Speaker 1>problem in terms of how we communicate. How do we

0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:03.400
<v Speaker 1>effectively get that instant reaction that we all look for

0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:06.560
<v Speaker 1>when you see something and I have to talk to

0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:08.640
<v Speaker 1>you over many many times, we saw a car raced

0:32:08.680 --> 0:32:11.160
<v Speaker 1>down well, you know where we live, race down there

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:14.080
<v Speaker 1>very very quickly. Yep, no number plates on the car

0:32:14.240 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 1>at the top of the WAZ model Mercedes Benz.

0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 2>So I rang and at least reported. Now, I don't

0:32:19.360 --> 0:32:21.320
<v Speaker 2>have no idea where that went. But I'm not sure

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 2>anybody would have investigated it. I don't know, but it'd

0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:27.520
<v Speaker 2>be pot like if there's someone in the area. The

0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:30.160
<v Speaker 2>other thing is at least you've rung and reported it.

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:34.160
<v Speaker 2>I think that's important because if that car was to

0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:36.880
<v Speaker 2>go around the corner and take out some trial on

0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:39.560
<v Speaker 2>the road, that's exactly right. Tony McManus has seen this

0:32:39.680 --> 0:32:43.600
<v Speaker 2>car doing warped nine down that particular road at that time,

0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 2>So it adds more evidence and gravity to the incident

0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:51.200
<v Speaker 2>instead of just oh, this is an unfortunate event. Particularly

0:32:51.360 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 2>is no plates is usually giveaway. It's a good giveaway,

0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:58.240
<v Speaker 2>good give taken off for a reason. It's a great point. Yeah,

0:32:58.400 --> 0:33:01.720
<v Speaker 2>it's a good idea, rob thank you? Hello, is it morning?

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<v Speaker 7>Are going?

0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:03.760
<v Speaker 2>We will?

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<v Speaker 14>That's good? Well, can I ask your question mate only

0:33:08.320 --> 0:33:10.000
<v Speaker 14>to the placement. When I was a young girl, I

0:33:10.160 --> 0:33:12.440
<v Speaker 14>was fostered and had a faster values did a good

0:33:12.480 --> 0:33:15.480
<v Speaker 14>job as the placement people to his because they look.

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:25.160
<v Speaker 2>Like that's not the point, well, Dave Sullivan, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 14>That's him. The sad part is of your sorry for

0:33:28.280 --> 0:33:31.600
<v Speaker 14>you please, because if we call criminal guys to court,

0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:34.080
<v Speaker 14>what's the good of heaven and chile cells, you guys

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:35.480
<v Speaker 14>are going to be able to work to them because

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:39.320
<v Speaker 14>they're going to say, well, what's the good heaven Charles

0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:42.280
<v Speaker 14>burn them all down. We won't need them because everybody's

0:33:42.280 --> 0:33:42.840
<v Speaker 14>are on Bayo.

0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:45.800
<v Speaker 2>I know what the cells being for. I know what

0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:48.360
<v Speaker 2>we'll use the jile cells for. Will all be in

0:33:48.480 --> 0:33:50.560
<v Speaker 2>them because we'll feel so for in the jile cells

0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:54.920
<v Speaker 2>than don't suggest that I know what.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, good Adelaide, Hello Adrian, good morning. Yes, Adrian will

0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:04.840
<v Speaker 1>come back to you shortly, maureens In Mulalou. Do you

0:34:04.920 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 1>know where Mula Loou is?

0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:07.600
<v Speaker 2>No, tell me where?

0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:10.800
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's Mula Loou's a beautiful sub It's north of

0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Perth and Mululou's very, very coastal. So you've got some

0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 1>beautiful homes right there overlooking the Indian Ocean. The Mululou

0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:22.080
<v Speaker 1>Hotels been there, I reckon probably was renovated maybe ten

0:34:22.200 --> 0:34:25.279
<v Speaker 1>or twelve years ago. Overlooks some beautiful guards and right

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:28.600
<v Speaker 1>across the ocean one of the most spectacular views in Australia.

0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:29.799
<v Speaker 2>Maureene, how am I doing?

0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:32.759
<v Speaker 15>Not too bad? To too bad?

0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:34.239
<v Speaker 2>Good voice?

0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:39.920
<v Speaker 15>My opinion of all this goes back to parenting. I

0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:42.840
<v Speaker 15>just see such a difference in the parents of today

0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:46.320
<v Speaker 15>to how we were, and I'm in my nineties and

0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 15>then my kids and my grandkids to my great grandchildren.

0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:53.640
<v Speaker 15>The parents today try and be friends with their children

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:55.560
<v Speaker 15>being parents.

0:34:55.800 --> 0:34:57.120
<v Speaker 2>No consequence is there more.

0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:01.480
<v Speaker 15>No, They're just allowed their little kings and queens and God, yes,

0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:03.880
<v Speaker 15>all the rest of it, you know. And I mean

0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:06.880
<v Speaker 15>they grow up with nobody can tell me what to do,

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<v Speaker 15>nobody can touch me, you know, and they just do

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<v Speaker 15>what they women will like and parents are trying to

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<v Speaker 15>be friends with them instead of being parents and disciplining them.

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<v Speaker 15>Totally stopped all that. We stopped it in the schools.

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<v Speaker 15>And the only way you can help a child is

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<v Speaker 15>to discipline them, and discipline them hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes spare the rodspoil the child. That's how I was raised, Mareen,

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't agree more with you. I do honestly think

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<v Speaker 2>that to solve the problems in society is that I've

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<v Speaker 2>just got to be a consequence for the action. Because

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<v Speaker 2>once there's a consequence, now that's good or bad. But

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<v Speaker 2>there's got to be a consequence one way or another

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<v Speaker 2>to positively or negatively reinforce the behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>Adrian, Maureen, always good to talk to you, Thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>look after yourself and keep in touch.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't be a stranger. Adrian in Adelaide.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, Sorry, guys, I've got caught napping. We was, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I was just ringing up in relation to you're talking

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<v Speaker 3>about D twenty four and all that a while ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, what did what.

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<v Speaker 3>Did the k C stand for? Because well I knew

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<v Speaker 3>more of that something to Victoria.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it doesn't, it's got nothing to It's just a

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<v Speaker 2>call sign that's allocated by the Department of Communications. V Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's original and it stuck well. In Queensland it's VK

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<v Speaker 2>or R or G I can't remember now, and New

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<v Speaker 2>South Wales is either VK or VKG. So here in Victoria,

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<v Speaker 2>our radio operators and our units on the road speaking

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<v Speaker 2>to D twenty four will say VKC. And the reason

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<v Speaker 2>why we used to say vk C two and VKC

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<v Speaker 2>talking to is because we used to be on a

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<v Speaker 2>VHF radio and it used to take a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of time to so you'd say VKC this is more

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<v Speaker 2>than three eleven, and by the time the radio had opened,

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<v Speaker 2>you would hear more than three to eleven. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>why I used to say VKC this is or it

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<v Speaker 2>was VKC two. We're back the other side of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Roger Sutherland, it goes too quick. From a healthy shift.

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<v Speaker 1>People have a look at the website which.

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<v Speaker 2>Is called a Healthy shift dot com or work a

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<v Speaker 2>healthy shift dot com. One would on the Insta for

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<v Speaker 2>the cool kids at a underscore healthy underscore shift. And

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<v Speaker 2>I've also got the podcast with Shift Workers, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a healthy shift, a healthy shift where you get your podcasts.

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<v Speaker 2>Always goodnes see, see you in a couple of works.

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<v Speaker 2>You absolutely will. Thank you. Thank You're a good man.

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<v Speaker 2>The wonderful Roger Sutherland leaving the program. We've got the

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<v Speaker 2>music quiz that's coming up next to Straighter Revenue