Speaker 1: Story each and every week, every couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: Well we haven't seen him for a month or so.
Speaker 1: Is the one and only Roger Now Roger in his
Speaker 1: hot little hand has his tickets are lusting from about
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty for the Kiss band.
Speaker 2: Listeners, little tickets. Where are we going to see it?
Speaker 1: Ooid Stadium?
Speaker 2: Buy tickets to Kiss? Thanks so much, thank you. That'll
Speaker 2: be four dollars fifty for those tickets. Roger Sutherland, Does
Speaker 2: that bring back memories? Oh yes, Oh nineteen eighty Waveley Park,
Speaker 2: the fifth of November, fifth of November. You even remember
Speaker 2: the date? Oh yes, the fifth of November. Did you
Speaker 2: buy any merch?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: I did not. No ten notes. No, I know one
Speaker 2: thing I can tell you. Dennis was talking about queueing.
Speaker 2: He was two days I queued to get into Yep.
Speaker 2: We camped there. We camped at Waverley Park. As a
Speaker 2: sixteen year old, I was so you.
Speaker 1: Mom and Dad said, oh, well, if you go go
Speaker 1: and camp there for a couple.
Speaker 2: Of days, see if you can get your tickets. Really
Speaker 2: I ran away, I left home. Yeah, I was going
Speaker 2: to see Kiss come Hella high Water. That was how
Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 1: This is not long before you became a long serving
Speaker 1: forty year member of the police service here in Victor.
Speaker 2: Four years later. Yeah, four years later was a cop.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: That's bizarre, isn't it. That was great training. I didn't
Speaker 2: realize it was so close now that I put it
Speaker 2: like that. Four years that's crazy, isn't I know?
Speaker 1: So you were at your only twenty You had your
Speaker 1: twenty five. It was twenty when I started. Yep, unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Come and join us out. Roger's here for those that
Speaker 1: don't know where. Roger is a regular tribute.
Speaker 2: To the program and looks after a website called a
Speaker 2: Healthy Shift. We talk about all.
Speaker 1: Things to do with being a shift worker. Well, you
Speaker 1: call this being healthy. You look at me, Look at me,
Speaker 1: Look at.
Speaker 2: Me, looking a picture of health.
Speaker 1: You're looking well though I've got to say I lost
Speaker 1: a couple of kilos, but you look well and so
Speaker 1: feel pretty good.
Speaker 2: Yes, And you've got to get the.
Speaker 1: Right sleep and right lighting and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1: But feel really good.
Speaker 2: If I could just get rid of this nagging little cough,
Speaker 2: which Den's got as well. Yeah, but I've been warned,
Speaker 2: I've been given the notes. Many laugh on it. Do
Speaker 2: not make Tony laugh on it.
Speaker 1: That's when I start to cough chronically cough tears. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about first responders in justin Do you want to
Speaker 1: take some of these great calls that we've got plenty
Speaker 1: of people to talk to.
Speaker 2: Anything to do, anything on the.
Speaker 1: Program is open line, of course, but you can feel
Speaker 1: the I'll say that again.
Speaker 2: Come and jump on board and be part of it.
Speaker 2: Have you ever been to Israel? You and I should go.
Speaker 2: I have not been to Israel. We should take a
Speaker 2: whole bunch of people to Israel at some point. We
Speaker 2: still will do the show from the Pyramids that year. Sorry, excellent.
Speaker 2: I haven't done well, have I?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 2: I haven't been there a geography David, Good.
Speaker 5: Morning, good morning.
Speaker 6: If you did it from the Pyramids, you'd be in Egypt.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 6: I wouldn't tell the Egyptians.
Speaker 5: That you're in Israel.
Speaker 6: But there's plenty of great bass you can from here too.
Speaker 2: I've made a big mistake, you have.
Speaker 1: We're going to have some of that beautiful wine that's
Speaker 1: been producing on some of those old vines in Israel
Speaker 1: for many, many hundreds of years.
Speaker 2: Gee, they do some correct wine in that part of
Speaker 2: the world.
Speaker 6: Yeah, good one here and if you do it, you
Speaker 6: can do the show for my living room and I
Speaker 6: will tie you with good Israeli wine, beer and Pablo
Speaker 6: them so better than it.
Speaker 1: Okay, so complimentary accommodation. All we need really is air fares.
Speaker 1: That's right, we'll get We'll get Nathan Costa lives over on.
Speaker 2: The private jet. Nathan cost can fly us over. It's
Speaker 2: going beautifully so far. This is this has been a
Speaker 2: really worth while giga. We can go now.
Speaker 6: By Stephen Beer's private jet. I mean surely you've got one.
Speaker 2: And you would think you would have access to one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: Anyway, I tell you why I called because I'm not
Speaker 6: sure I'm going to be able to get on tomorrow
Speaker 6: and it's sorry the twelfth in Australia, even though it's
Speaker 6: twenty eleven ten. I wanted to wish you happy early
Speaker 6: birthday Friday and hope it's a beautiful day and that
Speaker 6: you are treated very very nicely by the callers and
Speaker 6: by the family and by the friends.
Speaker 1: David, that's very very very kind of You're the first
Speaker 1: cab to do that and that's much appreciated.
Speaker 2: Can you believe that.
Speaker 1: This is not my first This is now my second
Speaker 1: birthday hosting this program, and as you well know, David,
Speaker 1: it's gone very buddy quickly, yeah.
Speaker 2: Really quickly.
Speaker 6: You've done a good job.
Speaker 2: Well, that's still to be decided, David.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people saying you bring back Simon,
Speaker 1: but that's fine.
Speaker 6: Look, you share it around.
Speaker 2: We do share it around. And I appreciate that you
Speaker 2: were saying that. It's very kind of you. All else
Speaker 2: is well in the world, all the world. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, if we hopefully we might talk tomorrow. You
Speaker 2: look after yourself and thank you.
Speaker 1: For putting up your room for rent, room for rent,
Speaker 1: and we'll come and have us stay and do the
Speaker 1: broadcast from there, and opening the bar, and opening the
Speaker 1: bar with all the cracking wine that he's got in
Speaker 1: stock and enjoys the occasion a little whiskey as well.
Speaker 2: What could possibly go wrong? Graham?
Speaker 5: Your kind morning, Graham, How are you tony?
Speaker 2: We're well? Thank you? Rogers here Roger Sutherland from a
Speaker 2: healthy shift, Good morning, Greg.
Speaker 1: Roger's placement is he's a four couple, forty years in
Speaker 1: the service.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did forty years.
Speaker 5: My god, you'd have seen as many things as I've
Speaker 5: seen what whereabouts?
Speaker 2: What have you seen? No, don't start.
Speaker 5: I did a little stink with el on the bond
Speaker 5: and can't it.
Speaker 2: Oh you would have seen plenty.
Speaker 5: I learned plenty. Don't worry about that.
Speaker 2: I've got no doubt about that at all.
Speaker 5: You know, the good thing about games jailer is you
Speaker 5: will earn the major problem. And I think this was
Speaker 5: like twenty four years ago. The major problem was drugs.
Speaker 5: Like criminals, they don't really want to see your money
Speaker 5: for any other reason, scept by truck.
Speaker 2: I agree. I could not agree more with you. It's
Speaker 2: everything comes back to that, doesn't it.
Speaker 5: It looks sad, sad. Really it was interesting.
Speaker 1: It was actually being talked about on three a W
Speaker 1: in the last twenty four to thirty six hours crame.
Speaker 2: Where as some of those people, oh okay.
Speaker 5: Yous, I was getting my chemo treatment. That the WA
Speaker 5: public system here at Charlie Gardener is brilliant. I was
Speaker 5: in there for eight days. They gave me all the treatment.
Speaker 5: They looked after me like a bloody king, and all
Speaker 5: the nurses running around, cracking joke for them and breaking
Speaker 5: free cups of seir. And we'll be back at work
Speaker 5: painting in the outside of the house tomorrow. So good
Speaker 5: was good?
Speaker 2: Then? How are you feeling great?
Speaker 5: Great? Feel fantastic? So this this is this new trial
Speaker 5: program where they've got a mixture of chemo with something else.
Speaker 5: You know, they just give you a needle in the stomach.
Speaker 5: Only on the fourth day and the eighth day and
Speaker 5: the rest of the days you take pills and eat
Speaker 5: the free food and get the free coffee and check
Speaker 5: out all the good looking nurses. What life couldn't get better?
Speaker 2: Mate, I provide you with scenery as well as all that.
Speaker 5: Getting back to you, Roger. When I came out, I
Speaker 5: did a a half hour show with spread from Africa.
Speaker 5: I came out in two thousand, November two thousand, and
Speaker 5: I tied him. Then the biggest problem is going to
Speaker 5: be drugs in the bloody thing, because you could see
Speaker 5: it right in the system and there was no she
Speaker 5: can't never had a fence round up there. There was
Speaker 5: quite huge for people to have just dropped bloody. So
Speaker 5: I went out one day. I was out near the
Speaker 5: Servantine road and there was this big silver package right
Speaker 5: elf squoiled and I picked it up with impressed cannibate.
Speaker 5: I put it back again and I went back in
Speaker 5: and Aline said, did you report it? I said, do
Speaker 5: you know how long I'd last if I reported that?
Speaker 1: It's an interesting observation, Graham, thank you for that. We'll
Speaker 1: leave you there, except to say I heard on three
Speaker 1: ow Roger that there was inside the culture of say prisons,
Speaker 1: for example, there was a level of satisfaction with those
Speaker 1: if certain medications, drugs if you like, were available, because
Speaker 1: then there was no there was less damage and violence
Speaker 1: in the prison. I've got no doubt. And so there
Speaker 1: was this mixed emotion about it. Whilst it's wrongs is illegal.
Speaker 1: You and I say, well, why would you? The reality
Speaker 1: is it was a way of keeping a little bit
Speaker 1: of peace and.
Speaker 2: Kept order, that kept order, that kept order. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: just keeps a bit of order.
Speaker 1: Chears when we come back here, we want to talk
Speaker 1: about given them. He beautifully kicked it off for us.
Speaker 2: Graham.
Speaker 1: In terms of first responders, a massive day yesterday. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about it again this morning. First responder is how
Speaker 1: important they are right across Australia. Wherever you're tuned in
Speaker 1: might be five double A and Adelaide. We're here at
Speaker 1: three A W in Melbourne. Of courses, the ACE Radio
Speaker 1: Network and six P in Perth. Come join us one
Speaker 1: double three six nine three Perth listeners, one double three
Speaker 1: eight eighty two. I'm Tony McManus. Roger Sutherland is here.
Speaker 1: It's a healthy shift to all part of Australia overnight.
Speaker 2: We love being here.
Speaker 1: I hope you love being part of the program as well.
Speaker 1: Encourage you to do so. One double three six nine three.
Speaker 1: Roger Sutherland, a long serving police officer here in Victoria,
Speaker 1: survived it for forty years these days specialized as a
Speaker 1: range of things. A veteran law enforcement officer, he now
Speaker 1: coaches people to well, you'd almost say thrive, not just survive,
Speaker 1: because many of us go through life trying to survive.
Speaker 1: But it's more about thriving and he works with shift
Speaker 1: workers to provide ed you do the things they love
Speaker 1: outside the shift work. It's an interesting program and one
Speaker 1: that's still got a long way to play out. But
Speaker 1: going well, are you're allowed to announce make that announcement
Speaker 1: as yet or you'd rather not returning.
Speaker 2: To the fold for a little bit. Yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 2: I'm actually been invited this week. I'm going back into
Speaker 2: the Fold at Victoria Police which has taken quite a
Speaker 2: bit for me to do, but I've been invited to
Speaker 2: go and speak at the Women in Policing events and
Speaker 2: I'm just so looking forward to doing this because women
Speaker 2: do shift work a lot harder, or females do shift
Speaker 2: work a lot harder than males do, and I focus
Speaker 2: predominantly on females and helping them with shift work. I'm
Speaker 2: well read in that area. Once again, I'll never know
Speaker 2: what it's like, but I study it pretty hard, and
Speaker 2: I'm going to go and help and educate at the
Speaker 2: Women in Policing about how females can go about doing
Speaker 2: shift work a lot better on I'm actually I'm nervous,
Speaker 2: but I'm really excited about it, which is fantastic.
Speaker 1: Is it about the people themselves or is it about
Speaker 1: the leadership group that you've also got to embrace and
Speaker 1: they need to embrace some of those things about which
Speaker 1: you've been talking now.
Speaker 2: For at least a couple of years. The leadership is
Speaker 2: something that what I'm trying to do is bring brand awareness,
Speaker 2: bring my awareness, because managers don't know that I exist.
Speaker 2: If people don't put it up to say, you know,
Speaker 2: we've got a blokeout here that's done forty years a
Speaker 2: shift work that is actually educating on how to go
Speaker 2: about shift work. Organizations, not just fit Pole, but I'm
Speaker 2: talking all organizations, nursing and everything don't educate their staff
Speaker 2: at all about how to go about shift work when
Speaker 2: they should when they should sleep, and then they don't
Speaker 2: actually consolidated. Everyone just learns from one thing to the next.
Speaker 2: So what I'm trying to do is change that. I
Speaker 2: want people to be educated on how to go about
Speaker 2: doing shift work because I can tell you Tony now,
Speaker 2: the seminars the feedback, but just been invited back to
Speaker 2: Port Fairy to go back and do a seminar down
Speaker 2: there at sun Farmer. The feedback out of that has
Speaker 2: been absolutely unbelievable. The unplanned leavers reduced, the morale is
Speaker 2: improved in the place. People have all said, I had
Speaker 2: no idea I could do it this way and it
Speaker 2: would be so much easier, and they are all coping
Speaker 2: so much better in that. So historically it hasn't been
Speaker 2: addressed at all at all, at all.
Speaker 1: No, No, it's such an important part of Australian culture
Speaker 1: and Australian work life.
Speaker 2: If I saved one ship, if I was to save
Speaker 2: one shift worker for vic Pole. It would save them
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand dollars right because they it's that year's salary.
Speaker 2: They wouldn't have to re educate, they wouldn't have to
Speaker 2: retrain do everything else. But and yet when I tell
Speaker 2: them what my seminars were, Oh, it's too expensive, coach,
Speaker 2: I think, are you kidding? You haven't got a budget
Speaker 2: for them. We haven't got the budget for that. But
Speaker 2: and the you know, Big Pole have closed down health
Speaker 2: and well being centers now as well, which has been
Speaker 2: public You know, they're closing their health and well being centers.
Speaker 2: So are we really caring about our people? We've got
Speaker 2: to start well. One of the principles of vick Pole
Speaker 2: is valuing our people. How are we valuing them if
Speaker 2: we're not supporting them and educating them on how to
Speaker 2: go about it from from womb to too in that sense?
Speaker 1: Really David and Matt Waverley, Hello, good morning. It was
Speaker 1: very very funny about the story of Grumpy Tony. It'll
Speaker 1: never get in the airplane, but it's.
Speaker 2: Very very clever.
Speaker 4: It's very clever, so I hope you like it. I
Speaker 4: can consider it a birthday present. Thank you. Now, I
Speaker 4: rang to say, yes, I came down at the showgrounds
Speaker 4: for three days to get kiss tickets.
Speaker 2: I can understand that. Do you remember, have you still
Speaker 2: got your ticket? David?
Speaker 4: Yes, I do, see my friends, but.
Speaker 2: I've still got my ticket. I still have my ticket.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately it doesn't have the price on it, which I
Speaker 2: wish it did. Were any idea what they would have been?
Speaker 2: I reckon it was. I think from memory and you
Speaker 2: can tell me, David. Would it have been nineteen dollars?
Speaker 2: I got a film? How much twenty twenty, nineteen ninety
Speaker 2: or something like that? It was twenty bucks? Yeah, for
Speaker 2: the ticket and we all camp down. We all camped
Speaker 2: out for days to get the tickets, and then we
Speaker 2: had to camp out again. We had to camp out
Speaker 2: again to actually get in because it was general admission.
Speaker 2: Do you remember how hot it was? And the food fight.
Speaker 5: It was horrible?
Speaker 2: It was and they were throwing ice buckets all over
Speaker 2: the people standing there, and the food fight once you
Speaker 2: got inside it was it was actually you can go
Speaker 2: YouTube that if your YouTube food fight Waverly Park kids,
Speaker 2: it comes up. It's unbelievable food fight.
Speaker 4: And then the MT comes out and says, you idiots,
Speaker 4: you need to come down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, otherwise kiss aren't coming out. So let me just done.
Speaker 2: I'm talking to her brother. Go anywhere.
Speaker 1: Just explained to we was somebody who was not there
Speaker 1: around Australia. What happens at a food fight? People were
Speaker 1: leaving anything. I don't happen how it started. The stupid
Speaker 1: thing was we went to hide behind one of the cops.
Speaker 2: Don't do that. Don't ever hide behind the cops because
Speaker 2: they're the ones that have been having the food thrown
Speaker 2: at them. Such such fun someone educated at sixteen and
Speaker 2: someone else has put a text up here as well.
Speaker 2: David Steve from North Kid. I camped there on the Wednesday,
Speaker 2: on the wednesdays. Now it was on Saturday night the show,
Speaker 2: and I was there from the friday. He was already
Speaker 2: there two days before me. Now he would be one
Speaker 2: of the people that was burning the pine poles to
Speaker 2: keep warm as well overnight. That went really well, David
Speaker 2: se Aarnie, Morning, mister Miaggi.
Speaker 7: Good morning, Tony Roger and Action Jackson. Now you mentioned
Speaker 7: B twenty four mile ladder, answer it or for later on?
Speaker 2: Well, the question was going to be how did D
Speaker 2: twenty four get its name? So go ahead.
Speaker 7: I don't know how I've got his name, but I
Speaker 7: went now with a few cops. I believe it was
Speaker 7: D twenty four, which is a communications line to call
Speaker 7: the police, and it was a quicker response to VKC.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay. So D twenty four is the nickname
Speaker 2: that's given to the communications center. I want to challenge
Speaker 2: anybody out there, do you know why it is called
Speaker 2: D twenty four. It's only called D twenty four here
Speaker 2: in Victoriaia, in not interstate, so unfortunately we'll rule the
Speaker 2: South Australians and the West Australians out put. Would they
Speaker 2: have their own version? They don't have a detail. I
Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe they do, they are It's always VKC
Speaker 2: is the allocated call signed by the Department of Communications.
Speaker 2: So they say VKC. This is VKC two know the
Speaker 2: mulven Van or VKC two whatever. But their nickname is
Speaker 2: D twenty four. How did they earn that nickname? Why
Speaker 2: did they earn that nickname? I want to hear from someone.
Speaker 1: Anybody happened to be listening in South Australia. My great
Speaker 1: friend Peter Graham was a long serving commission towards the end.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure he worked in comms in South Australia
Speaker 1: going back to the early part of the eighties as well,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure he would be he'd know what nicknames
Speaker 1: there in that state.
Speaker 2: Because even he, even the junior bundies that would have
Speaker 2: no idea probably why D twenty four is called D
Speaker 2: twenty four, would still say get onto the board or
Speaker 2: get onto D twenty four.
Speaker 1: Former Commissioner of course in the wa Carlo Callahan, who
Speaker 1: did a lot of workout six PR in Perth, might
Speaker 1: be listening as well. He'd have some background on some
Speaker 1: of those names in wa.
Speaker 2: Ardie, thank you. In Elfington, Hello Simon.
Speaker 8: Bill Guys. I'm just looking at what's going on in
Speaker 8: America with companies falling into marines and all that sort
Speaker 8: of stuff. I hope we never get to that stage here.
Speaker 8: But I look at the bigions of dollars that are
Speaker 8: being wasted in Victoria. Why don't we just double the
Speaker 8: wages of the police force and bring.
Speaker 9: In some really top kids two protect the state and
Speaker 9: stop all the clime and make it worthwhile. Give them
Speaker 9: a free education if they.
Speaker 8: Want, you know, to go to UNI.
Speaker 9: Just offer them some incentives to be a police and.
Speaker 5: Climb enforcement officer.
Speaker 2: Yep, I couldn't agree more. But simon, I think we're
Speaker 2: not addressing it right that banning machetes makes it a
Speaker 2: retail problem. This is not a retail Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 2: You and I've talked about this. It's not. So why
Speaker 2: is it?
Speaker 1: Why is it being from a government point of view,
Speaker 1: from a government position of sort of saying the answer
Speaker 1: to this is, let's ban machete.
Speaker 2: Well, we banned guns work, does it? We banned guns
Speaker 2: and people still have guns. Yeah, but guns don't kill
Speaker 2: people and machetes don't kill people. Now you're sounding like
Speaker 2: somebody in in the middle of America. No, but guns
Speaker 2: don't kill people. It's the it's the person that's holding
Speaker 2: onto it, right, And that's what's got to be addressed.
Speaker 2: In my opinion, we have to address that. We have
Speaker 2: to address where these issues are coming from. You can't.
Speaker 2: I mean, guns are banned, you're not allowed to have
Speaker 2: a gun. But people have guns and they kill because
Speaker 2: the person pulls the trigger. Machete is a band now,
Speaker 2: but machetes are still turning up and they will continue
Speaker 2: to turn up because we're not addressing.
Speaker 1: The real problem. Well on Tom Elliott's program took some
Speaker 1: phone calls. I think either earlier this week or late
Speaker 1: last week. I was listening on the way home from
Speaker 1: somewhere and lots of people saying, oh heah, the readily available.
Speaker 2: Still you can go online and buy it. It's taken
Speaker 2: Amazon two weeks to decide we won't import them into
Speaker 2: Australia anymore. But people are still going to have them,
Speaker 2: and they're still going to turn up, and you can
Speaker 2: still buy them for what you want to buy them for,
Speaker 2: et cetera. Fantastic A lot of calls here, Come.
Speaker 4: And join them.
Speaker 1: We'll get the call of just to chick one double
Speaker 1: three six nine three. I'm Tony McManus. The one and
Speaker 1: only Roger Sutherland is here. We catch up with Roger
Speaker 1: every couple of weeks or so. Well part of Australia
Speaker 1: overnight it is three A W in Melbourne, the ACE
Speaker 1: Radio network right through at Victoria and into southern parts
Speaker 1: of New South Wales.
Speaker 2: Where else are we?
Speaker 1: Five double A in Adelaide, six pr in Birth and
Speaker 1: Katie in Melbourne's on the phone.
Speaker 10: Morning Katie, Hi, Tony, how how are you sorry? I'm
Speaker 10: not saved to ask that I was just thringing about
Speaker 10: the D twenty four.
Speaker 1: Now tell us about your history, if anything, how much
Speaker 1: you can say I'm not sure about D twenty four.
Speaker 10: Well, I asked the question oddly last week, following on
Speaker 10: from a conversation about Jared Kennedy and.
Speaker 2: Who is the actually Kennedy R Kennedy Division four.
Speaker 10: Yeah, so I ended up asking the question at work
Speaker 10: and the answer was that it was named after the room.
Speaker 2: Correct, Yes, can you elaborate.
Speaker 10: It where it was where those people worked, the first
Speaker 10: responders to the emergency call, the.
Speaker 2: Very very Victoria will give you the prize, Cody. There's
Speaker 2: no prize, but the price if we have some baaderly won.
Speaker 2: If we had a price, we'd give you a price.
Speaker 2: But can I just say though Victoria Police were the
Speaker 2: first police agency in Australia that had wireless communication, had
Speaker 2: radio communication and it was out of Room twenty four
Speaker 2: Corridor D at Russell Street. Isn't it a great piece?
Speaker 2: That's why it's not as D twenty four and still
Speaker 2: today even though it's no longer there, it's still known
Speaker 2: as D twenty four. Is it a great piece of
Speaker 2: the history? Pete, did you have a similar story along
Speaker 2: those lines. Ind Albert, Yes, I did beat me to it.
Speaker 2: Did you serve Pete?
Speaker 8: No, No, not at all.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 5: I I think I saw it on a probably a
Speaker 5: documentary on TV, some show I remember, just my mind
Speaker 5: might be playing tricks, but I think they showed just
Speaker 5: a picture of the door and D twenty four.
Speaker 4: Written on it. But I knew from that correer well.
Speaker 5: I believe that it was a room in the old.
Speaker 8: Russell Street police headquarters.
Speaker 2: I don't know what floor it was, but it was
Speaker 2: on a mezzanine floor and it faced when the Russell
Speaker 2: Street bomb went off. Of course, all the windows were
Speaker 2: blown out of D twenty four as well, and it
Speaker 2: was the bomb proof curtains that stopped the glassroom coming through.
Speaker 2: They were still operating during the straight after the bomb
Speaker 2: there that was operating, but above the door was literally
Speaker 2: D two four because it was in corridor D. And
Speaker 2: of course the room next to it was D twenty three,
Speaker 2: and the room next it was D twenty two, and
Speaker 2: so on and so forth. But yeah, it's great history.
Speaker 2: It is a lovely piece of history. Peter, well done,
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Still in mont Albert's Big mont Albert and mont Albert Hello, Lenny, Yes, Lynn,
Speaker 1: go ahead, yeah, day twenty four.
Speaker 11: Now that that is absolutely correct. Main detectives in that
Speaker 11: area there and there was also a place in Dawson
Speaker 11: Street with the cop or Hollway cold cars and or
Speaker 11: no sell things that behind there as is where they
Speaker 11: saw the Bruige buses and that those days.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, good on your le some great memories around that.
Speaker 2: So what's the acronym?
Speaker 1: Just remind me about c I B criminal Investigation Branch, branch, bureau.
Speaker 2: Well, it went it was bureau, went branch, and then
Speaker 2: it went to CRU, which is criminal Investigation Unit. I
Speaker 2: think that's what it is now CRU, not co B. No,
Speaker 2: it's not c IB anymore. Was such an iconic turn. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: it's been in touch with the C like the internal
Speaker 2: Investigations has changed names as well. It was it was
Speaker 2: B eleven when I started, and then it went to eleven,
Speaker 2: then it went to any PSC and then e SD
Speaker 2: and it's changed. Well, someone gets a promotion and gets
Speaker 2: a medal for it. Along the way the award design
Speaker 2: a phone book ad.
Speaker 12: He was great, Jimmy morning, Good morning, Tony, Roger, Jack,
Speaker 12: We're all here.
Speaker 2: What's happening in your world.
Speaker 12: Not much. You mostly just appointments after appointments all the
Speaker 12: time with John's.
Speaker 2: Sick of good on your gym. What do you got
Speaker 2: to go through that process?
Speaker 12: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 12: But anyway, good to speak to you, getting Roger and
Speaker 12: Goodloe speaking. It was just speaking event Thanks enough. Bring
Speaker 12: up about D twenty four. In all your years off
Speaker 12: policemen of forty years you were, you based in one
Speaker 12: or for several police stations and been the policeman for
Speaker 12: forty years. I suppose you'd still know a lot of
Speaker 12: policewomen and policemen still working these days. But the question
Speaker 12: I have that I mainly rang up for a while back.
Speaker 12: I heard on Jackie Felgate's show that they e bike
Speaker 12: had blown up and held the train for a couple
Speaker 12: of hours. I think it was on the Glen Waverley line.
Speaker 12: When I used to ride my pushbike all over the place,
Speaker 12: when I used to go far distances, I used to
Speaker 12: put my bike on and the high Buz guys were there,
Speaker 12: the guys trying to get their motor bikes on and
Speaker 12: bikes with petrol motors, and they used to the guys
Speaker 12: used to say, why aren't we allowed on? They said,
Speaker 12: because of danger, because of explosion. So now a knee
Speaker 12: bike battery is blown up. E bike's going to soon
Speaker 12: be banned off training tooters.
Speaker 2: A very good question. It's a great point, because there
Speaker 2: is a problem. Did you say the vision of that
Speaker 2: ship that was carrying I said, ship that was carrying
Speaker 2: all the electric cars caught fire. Oh the and then
Speaker 2: lost all those cars, about three thousand cars. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and they just had to leave it gone out. They
Speaker 2: just had to leave it burn out there because of
Speaker 2: the Yeah, they couldn't do anything. This is a problem
Speaker 2: with the electric cars, and obviously with the e bikes
Speaker 2: it's quite apart from the fact that they're just a
Speaker 2: death trap with the way they're ridden around. I only
Speaker 2: got cleaned up by one.
Speaker 1: Well, it goes back to you, it goes back to
Speaker 1: your ideas. You said, it's not the guns, it's not
Speaker 1: the machetes.
Speaker 2: In this case, it's not the e bikes the dickheads
Speaker 2: that the dicks that actually ride them. Well, if you
Speaker 2: put a knee bike right there, right now, I'll guarantee
Speaker 2: it won't hurt you. If you just put a knee
Speaker 2: boat right there, just sitting there, it doesn't hurt you.
Speaker 2: It's whoever gets on and controls it, that's the problem.
Speaker 2: That's what needs addressing. It's like the guns. It's not
Speaker 2: the gun because a gun can sit there it will
Speaker 2: never ever hurt you ever. But if someone picks it
Speaker 2: up and they squeeze the trigger, then that's what needs addressing.
Speaker 2: You can take guns out of society, you can take
Speaker 2: machetes out of society. People are still going to get
Speaker 2: hold of them. The problem's got to be addressed at
Speaker 2: who's holding it? Yeah, who's holding it?
Speaker 1: Except that in America it's out of control. So what's
Speaker 1: the difference between the standard they take in America? Most
Speaker 1: states in the United States even under their document, under
Speaker 1: their the Constitution, and so that allows for that. And
Speaker 1: yet in Australia we gave back.
Speaker 2: All our guns.
Speaker 1: We're not a gun culture for the most part, and
Speaker 1: we have nowhere near the level of deaths associated with
Speaker 1: the firearms.
Speaker 2: And the other thing as well as suit I've always wondered,
Speaker 2: when was the last time you heard that there was
Speaker 2: an active shooter at a shopping center but some civilian
Speaker 2: pulled their own gun out and took them out in Australia, No,
Speaker 2: in the US, how often do you hear that? Never? Never.
Speaker 2: They alsoay that they have got the right to bear arms.
Speaker 2: But when was the last time that you heard that
Speaker 2: there was an active shoot at a shopping center or
Speaker 2: in a car park, or there was an issue going on.
Speaker 2: But Tony McManus, the civilian, pulled his own firearm out
Speaker 2: and resolved this issue.
Speaker 1: But it would be somebody who comes into your home
Speaker 1: and you've got a gun license and your guns in storage.
Speaker 2: Somebody comes into your home and you hold hold the
Speaker 2: Just stay there.
Speaker 1: I've got to go down to my safe. There's a
Speaker 1: great comedian who did a great sketch on this whose name.
Speaker 2: Just a schedule. Come back to me in just a tick.
Speaker 1: Stay there, I'm going to go get my gun. Don't
Speaker 1: move you race down to the other end of the house.
Speaker 1: You open your safe, won't you remember the code twenty
Speaker 1: four to the room.
Speaker 2: I'll be there. And remember you can't store your ammunition
Speaker 2: with your firearm. That's a separate but that's in another one.
Speaker 2: That's but hang on with your gun. Just hang on
Speaker 2: with your assuredly. Yep, I'll be with you. It's bizarre,
Speaker 2: It is bizarre. It is totally that's here in Australia.
Speaker 2: But then we talk about in the US where I've
Speaker 2: spoken to people that you know, they're just literally wearing
Speaker 2: firearms on their hips, like handguns on their hips, but
Speaker 2: they're never ever the ones that are resolving these issues.
Speaker 2: They're always standing back waiting for the cops to come in,
Speaker 2: and they're the ones that are having to take control
Speaker 2: of these situations. Why do we do this?
Speaker 1: We'll come back, We'll go to Rob in Richmond and
Speaker 1: it as well. Adrian's are more in come and join us.
Speaker 1: One double three six nine three. We love acronyms on
Speaker 1: the program. Acronyms. We're gonna have a lot of fun
Speaker 1: with just acronyms. One morning, one double three six nine three.
Speaker 1: It is Australia Overnight. Morning, Hey Robbie and Richmond, and
Speaker 1: thank you for being part of Australia Overnight. I'm Tony
Speaker 1: MCMANUSIR Rob and Roger Sutherland from a Healthy Shift is here.
Speaker 13: Hello to you, Ah Yes, Good morning Tiny and good
Speaker 13: morning Roger.
Speaker 4: Good morning to Roger.
Speaker 13: Thanks for your multiple decades of service to the community
Speaker 13: and respecting that you've been part of the force. I
Speaker 13: wanted to run a couple of ideas past you sure.
Speaker 13: Do you remember the game? As a child, you used
Speaker 13: to play Spotto? Yes, yeah, Well why can't the community
Speaker 13: get involved? Like the police can publish a list of
Speaker 13: the stolen cars and what the number plates are, and
Speaker 13: if we see it out in front of us and
Speaker 13: it's a black outy and the number plate doesn't match
Speaker 13: the Big Roads website, then we can give you a
Speaker 13: call and if that turns into tracking down a stolen car,
Speaker 13: then you know, the person get a one hundred dollars
Speaker 13: reward or something like that. Get the community involved, because
Speaker 13: you hear often on the news by that car was
Speaker 13: stolen in Beau Morren back in January around around.
Speaker 2: Yeah. One of the biggest problems that we have is
Speaker 2: the database of stolen cars has so many car stolen.
Speaker 2: How many people drive around? But you know what, Tony McManus,
Speaker 2: here's that black billimw and he remembers something about the regio,
Speaker 2: and I hear about the white Audi, So I remember
Speaker 2: something about the regio. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: So you could have a lot of people out there.
Speaker 2: I can tell you where the problem lies. Who you're
Speaker 2: going to call when you actually see it. You're going
Speaker 2: to ring triple zero, and then it becomes a logistical
Speaker 2: nightmare to try and get And I know because I
Speaker 2: did this for twelve years. It's a logistical nightmare to
Speaker 2: get a police unit, which we have hardly any of
Speaker 2: on the road to get to you to where you
Speaker 2: are with that car driving around. And don't get me wrong,
Speaker 2: I can certainly see people ring I see things, and
Speaker 2: I think there's no point ringing. No one's going to
Speaker 2: be able to get to me anyway. Now, Yeah, and
Speaker 2: this is the problem because.
Speaker 1: Where has that always been the problem. I don't know
Speaker 1: that that's a new problem. It's always been a new
Speaker 1: problem in terms of how we communicate. How do we
Speaker 1: effectively get that instant reaction that we all look for
Speaker 1: when you see something and I have to talk to
Speaker 1: you over many many times, we saw a car raced
Speaker 1: down well, you know where we live, race down there
Speaker 1: very very quickly. Yep, no number plates on the car
Speaker 1: at the top of the WAZ model Mercedes Benz.
Speaker 2: So I rang and at least reported. Now, I don't
Speaker 2: have no idea where that went. But I'm not sure
Speaker 2: anybody would have investigated it. I don't know, but it'd
Speaker 2: be pot like if there's someone in the area. The
Speaker 2: other thing is at least you've rung and reported it.
Speaker 2: I think that's important because if that car was to
Speaker 2: go around the corner and take out some trial on
Speaker 2: the road, that's exactly right. Tony McManus has seen this
Speaker 2: car doing warped nine down that particular road at that time,
Speaker 2: So it adds more evidence and gravity to the incident
Speaker 2: instead of just oh, this is an unfortunate event. Particularly
Speaker 2: is no plates is usually giveaway. It's a good giveaway,
Speaker 2: good give taken off for a reason. It's a great point. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a good idea, rob thank you? Hello, is it morning?
Speaker 7: Are going?
Speaker 2: We will?
Speaker 14: That's good? Well, can I ask your question mate only
Speaker 14: to the placement. When I was a young girl, I
Speaker 14: was fostered and had a faster values did a good
Speaker 14: job as the placement people to his because they look.
Speaker 2: Like that's not the point, well, Dave Sullivan, Yeah.
Speaker 14: That's him. The sad part is of your sorry for
Speaker 14: you please, because if we call criminal guys to court,
Speaker 14: what's the good of heaven and chile cells, you guys
Speaker 14: are going to be able to work to them because
Speaker 14: they're going to say, well, what's the good heaven Charles
Speaker 14: burn them all down. We won't need them because everybody's
Speaker 14: are on Bayo.
Speaker 2: I know what the cells being for. I know what
Speaker 2: we'll use the jile cells for. Will all be in
Speaker 2: them because we'll feel so for in the jile cells
Speaker 2: than don't suggest that I know what.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good Adelaide, Hello Adrian, good morning. Yes, Adrian will
Speaker 1: come back to you shortly, maureens In Mulalou. Do you
Speaker 1: know where Mula Loou is?
Speaker 2: No, tell me where?
Speaker 1: Well, it's Mula Loou's a beautiful sub It's north of
Speaker 1: Perth and Mululou's very, very coastal. So you've got some
Speaker 1: beautiful homes right there overlooking the Indian Ocean. The Mululou
Speaker 1: Hotels been there, I reckon probably was renovated maybe ten
Speaker 1: or twelve years ago. Overlooks some beautiful guards and right
Speaker 1: across the ocean one of the most spectacular views in Australia.
Speaker 2: Maureene, how am I doing?
Speaker 15: Not too bad? To too bad?
Speaker 2: Good voice?
Speaker 15: My opinion of all this goes back to parenting. I
Speaker 15: just see such a difference in the parents of today
Speaker 15: to how we were, and I'm in my nineties and
Speaker 15: then my kids and my grandkids to my great grandchildren.
Speaker 15: The parents today try and be friends with their children
Speaker 15: being parents.
Speaker 2: No consequence is there more.
Speaker 15: No, They're just allowed their little kings and queens and God, yes,
Speaker 15: all the rest of it, you know. And I mean
Speaker 15: they grow up with nobody can tell me what to do,
Speaker 15: nobody can touch me, you know, and they just do
Speaker 15: what they women will like and parents are trying to
Speaker 15: be friends with them instead of being parents and disciplining them.
Speaker 15: Totally stopped all that. We stopped it in the schools.
Speaker 15: And the only way you can help a child is
Speaker 15: to discipline them, and discipline them hard.
Speaker 2: Sometimes spare the rodspoil the child. That's how I was raised, Mareen,
Speaker 2: I couldn't agree more with you. I do honestly think
Speaker 2: that to solve the problems in society is that I've
Speaker 2: just got to be a consequence for the action. Because
Speaker 2: once there's a consequence, now that's good or bad. But
Speaker 2: there's got to be a consequence one way or another
Speaker 2: to positively or negatively reinforce the behavior.
Speaker 1: Adrian, Maureen, always good to talk to you, Thank you,
Speaker 1: look after yourself and keep in touch.
Speaker 2: Don't be a stranger. Adrian in Adelaide.
Speaker 3: Hello, Sorry, guys, I've got caught napping. We was, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I was just ringing up in relation to you're talking
Speaker 3: about D twenty four and all that a while ago.
Speaker 2: Yes, what did what.
Speaker 3: Did the k C stand for? Because well I knew
Speaker 3: more of that something to Victoria.
Speaker 2: No, it doesn't, it's got nothing to It's just a
Speaker 2: call sign that's allocated by the Department of Communications. V Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's original and it stuck well. In Queensland it's VK
Speaker 2: or R or G I can't remember now, and New
Speaker 2: South Wales is either VK or VKG. So here in Victoria,
Speaker 2: our radio operators and our units on the road speaking
Speaker 2: to D twenty four will say VKC. And the reason
Speaker 2: why we used to say vk C two and VKC
Speaker 2: talking to is because we used to be on a
Speaker 2: VHF radio and it used to take a little bit
Speaker 2: of time to so you'd say VKC this is more
Speaker 2: than three eleven, and by the time the radio had opened,
Speaker 2: you would hear more than three to eleven. And that's
Speaker 2: why I used to say VKC this is or it
Speaker 2: was VKC two. We're back the other side of this.
Speaker 1: Roger Sutherland, it goes too quick. From a healthy shift.
Speaker 1: People have a look at the website which.
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Speaker 2: I've also got the podcast with Shift Workers, which is
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Speaker 2: Always goodnes see, see you in a couple of works.
Speaker 2: You absolutely will. Thank you. Thank You're a good man.
Speaker 2: The wonderful Roger Sutherland leaving the program. We've got the
Speaker 2: music quiz that's coming up next to Straighter Revenue