S1: It's unprecedented what we've seen of late with Adam, do
S1: you think? Look, I had a blow up with Gus Gould.
S1: I walked out of training once, but then I played
S1: that weekend because I thought I can't let my teammates down.
S2: Hey, there. Welcome to the Continuous Call Team daily podcast.
S2: My name is Adam Haws, and I just gave a
S2: shock to my cohost, M G Mark Geier. Welcome.
S1: Is this on? Are we here? Are we here yet? Dad, welcome.
S1: I'm here for a, uh, a great discussion today because
S1: it's been a quiet week in rugby league. Not much
S1: to talk about. Very snoozy the game that always it
S1: just never sleeps, does it?
S2: Never sleeps. Especially at Tiger Town. Today though, Benji, Marshall
S2: and Adam do. We have come forward and spoken of
S2: mistakes they have made in this rift, which they are
S2: putting together because Benji has named Adam Dewi back at
S2: halfback for his team to take on the Eagles this Sunday.
S2: So they're hoping that's the end of this dispute. After
S2: Adam walked out, of course, last week, m g uh,
S2: you heard the press conference. Do you think this is
S2: all hunky dory now? It's in the past. We can
S2: all move on and hold hands.
S1: We'd like to hope so, horsie. You'd like to hope
S1: so for the Tigers fans sake. You know, there's there's
S1: not just one set of fans. We've got the fans
S1: of the the Tigers per se, who have been fans
S1: of the joint venture since 1999. But you've also got
S1: old Balmain fans. You've got old Western suburbs, Magpies fans,
S1: and they're the ones who keep. We keep asking. All
S1: the Tigers keep asking to come to the three grounds
S1: we've got and keep buying the jerseys, and then there
S1: doesn't seem to be a year go by that the
S1: Tigers don't have drama. Mhm. And I think it's unprecedented
S1: what we've seen of late with Adam. Do you think.
S1: I look I had a blow up with Gus Gould.
S1: I walked out of training once, but then I played
S1: that weekend because I thought I can't let my teammates down.
S1: I just can't do it. It's not in my it's
S1: not in my DNA. But the Monday rugby league players
S1: are a lot different to what we were yesterday. You know,
S1: you get dropped these days back to reserve grade. You're
S1: in the phone of your manager saying, I want out
S1: of this place. I don't think I'm any good. There
S1: is no intestinal fortitude in the modern day rugby league player,
S1: And that's across everyone, not just I'm not saying Adam
S1: is in that basket. He might love the club too much.
S1: I don't know, but I'm glad they've put a bow
S1: on it because what we need now is a Tigers fan.
S1: If you are one, is is to finish the season
S1: with 3 or 4 wins. Yeah. And the only thing
S1: that will get this will flush. This drama is a victory.
S2: Yeah. Well look Adam Dewey, he definitely did show some
S2: backbone today. He could have hidden a lot of players
S2: in this instance would have hidden behind, uh, media managers.
S2: But he came forward and he admitted he got things wrong.
S2: He said, I'm a I'm an overthinker, I'm an overthinker.
S2: There was a miscommunication, which obviously goes back to the
S2: judiciary hearing when he got off last week and he
S2: had no word from Benji Marshall. Benji said today, well,
S2: I had sick kids. They were on the verge of
S2: going to hospital, so I was a bit tied up. Sorry.
S1: You see all these we don't know. We don't hear
S1: all this.
S2: Yeah. So? So Adam's overthought things. He feels undervalued. He
S2: has a blow up. He walks out. He had no
S2: idea it was going to cause the shitstorm that we
S2: saw over the weekend. When he pulled out of that,
S2: that team that got thumped by the Raiders. So credit
S2: to him. He admits now he should have played. His
S2: manager was telling him to play, but he's stubborn, he admitted.
S2: He's stubborn, Adam. Do he? And he dug his heels
S2: in and didn't play. But he regrets that now.
S1: Yeah, that's.
S2: Well, I'll give him credit for that.
S1: I'm glad he's. Come on. I'm glad he said that.
S1: Because you could just play that the victim card for
S1: as long as you want. And I don't think Adam did.
S1: He thinks he's a victim. I think you know, that
S1: makes sense. You know that Benji didn't get back to
S1: him because he's got his own dramas and. Yeah, um,
S1: I do in all of this feel sorry for one bloke.
S1: And that's Javon Andrews who made his debut. Yeah. Um,
S1: last week against the Raiders and the poor kid was
S1: just in a, in a thunderstorm. You know, he's kind
S1: of trying to get his first grade game together and
S1: all this peripheral stuff's going on in the background. I,
S1: I hope he's not too discouraged. I know he's back
S1: on in New South Wales Cup this week. Um, but
S1: I hope he doesn't get too discouraged because the kid
S1: can play. I've seen a lot of him this year
S1: and he's got a really nice temperament. Um, he's a,
S1: he's a big bodied halfback, but uh, look Tigers fans
S1: hold on hopefully hopefully this weekend against your eels they
S1: can get. Oh that's right. Your eels are playing him
S1: this weekend.
S2: The timing's amazing, isn't it? You watched that today and
S2: you think, oh, they're all happy families again. Oh, who
S2: are they playing? Parramatta. You wouldn't believe it, would you?
S2: But look for Tigers fans going forward because there has
S2: been reports that Adam is off to Perth Bears. He's
S2: not going to stick around. But he was adamant today.
S2: I love this club, I love Benji, I love the badge.
S2: I'm not going anywhere. I've got a three year deal.
S2: I don't walk out on contracts. So he's adamant he's
S2: not walking out of the Tigers.
S1: It's the 29th of July today and that's the first
S1: I've heard of that. If he does that, he'll erase
S1: all the dramas. He'll erase all the dramas. If he
S1: sticks solid to his three year deal with the Tigers
S1: and sees it out. And I think he will if
S1: he said that. I haven't heard him say that. And
S1: as we're recording this podcast, you're giving me news that
S1: I haven't heard. But if he's saying that, well done.
S1: I think it's the best thing he's said in the
S1: last week.
S2: Well, he's apologizing for letting down the fans. So he's
S2: not he wouldn't do that again because walking out would
S2: let the fans down again. So he's not going to
S2: do that again. So I'm going to take Adam Dewey
S2: at his word.
S1: I think so, yeah. I'm with you.
S2: Yeah. So we'll see what happens. Benji Marshall also admitted
S2: that he he got things wrong on reflection, including moving
S2: him from half back to lock because he has been
S2: their best player. He's been playing half back. Jerome Lewis
S2: is leaving the Tigers, so why wouldn't you have dropped
S2: him to the bench? That's the question I asked anyway.
S2: So he's admitted. Yeah. On reflection I got that wrong. Uh,
S2: and he's also Benji admitted that yes, I probably do
S2: need some help above me, which is what we've been
S2: calling for. Uh, it's time for him to have a
S2: senior head over him, sort of saying, hey, Benji, maybe
S2: do this. Maybe that was.
S1: What about the irony in this? If this happens, we've
S1: seen that, um, Ivan Cleary is leaving the Panthers next year,
S1: last year, next year. What if he went over back
S1: to where he was as a as an advisory capacity
S1: for Benji Marshall.
S2: He got back in the bus and took the bus back.
S1: Hey, you never, never, ever say no in this game.
S1: It could happen. We know he's going to coach New
S1: South Wales Ivan Cleary. He's going to have time up
S1: his sleeve. It's only for six weeks a year. So
S1: imagine him going back and helping out the club. I've seen. No,
S1: I haven't seen. Do you remember.
S2: Do you remember when the Tigers played the Panthers and
S2: the Tigers fans now he was waving.
S1: Yeah. Yeah. Oh, mate.
S2: Man. There's some water. There's some water.
S1: Imagine it, imagine it. There'd be the biggest story of
S1: the year in rugby league if it happened.
S2: It makes sense, mate. Now you mention it. It actually
S2: makes sense. He's a perfect.
S1: Guy. He's the perfect guy for them.
S2: And he could do his origin.
S1: Yes, yes.
S2: Wow.
S1: Talk to each other. Get into bed with each other.
S1: Why not?
S2: Will you stop saying that expression?
S1: Get into bed.
S2: Uh. Anyway. So. Yeah. Look. Parramatta, do you think Parramatta
S2: players will be watching this going, oh, geez, what do.
S1: We look like? Their fans? Oh shit. Why us? Why
S1: can't they be playing the Warriors or the Panthers this week?
S2: Oh dear. Anyway, so we'll see. Hopefully that's all done
S2: and dusted. There was. I did get worried. I was
S2: worried by one thing Adam did. He said. He said
S2: I'm all in. And then we heard Jerome. Do I
S2: say that? Didn't we? And we saw how that ended.
S1: Yeah. Look, it's it's it's the modern day. We we
S1: we allow clauses. We allow guys to, you know, back
S1: in the day. And I'm not, I hope saying back
S1: in the day because straight away you sound like a dinosaur.
S1: But If a player would even dare speak to another
S1: club while they're under contract. Back in our day. Yeah,
S1: like like AFL. One good thing they really have that.
S1: We don't. But when I was on radio with Mick Molloy,
S1: he used to say, I can't believe this thing that
S1: you guys. He signed with Penrith now, but he signed
S1: with the dogs next year. He goes, if that was
S1: one of my players at Richmond who signed with the
S1: Essendon Bombers for next year, guess what we'd do? Mhm.
S1: Out you go. Right now. Right now that like they
S1: got a point.
S2: Well, you've got you've got Connor Watson playing for the Roosters.
S2: Dragons Chiefs Jarome Luai Tigers, eels chiefs. This is all
S2: going to play out. It's just crazy. The system needs changing.
S2: That's a whole other.
S1: I think it does. Yeah it is another episode. But
S1: I think you're right.
S2: Um just just finally on that. The man who could
S2: have actually brought this all together, the Tigers together is
S2: Danny Abdallah, who lost his family.
S1: Well, my young bloke was there um, at training through
S1: the week and he said, dad, um, Danny, who's who
S1: lost his kids in that car accident, horrific, horrific. He
S1: came to training because apparently he's a good mate of
S1: Adam Davies. And he spoke to us and he said
S1: that it was almost tears to every kid at training.
S1: I went, oh man, I know Danny. I met Danny
S1: many times in the last 5 or 6 years and
S1: what he's gone through, I suppose if he can say
S1: anything to a rugby league team to inspire them. The
S1: Tigers at the moment need something like that. They need
S1: something that says, you know what? There's bigger. There's bigger
S1: dramas outside of the world than what we're going through
S1: at the moment, because it's perspective. It's perspective. It's perspective personified.
S1: Like this guy lost his kids and by a drink
S1: driver and he's still preaching to the world that forgive, forgive, forgive. Like,
S1: come on, come on. Let's put things in perspective. And
S1: I'm glad you brought that up because I've forgotten all
S1: about that. When my young black two days ago said
S1: that he'd been at training, I went, wow, how powerful
S1: is that?
S2: Adam Dewey would listen to that and go, hey, jeez,
S2: I've been moved from halfback to lock. You know, blokes
S2: are vaping at training, you know.
S1: Well, that's that's that's bullshit. The vaping at training, like
S1: I said to me, I'm like, what's this vaping at
S1: training shit. He goes as if as if anyone would
S1: have a vape at training, and as if someone wouldn't say, hey,
S1: what are you doing? Like, just it's.
S2: Just a bit of clickbait.
S1: It doesn't.
S2: Happen. Alright. Uh, dragons are sniffing around Kodi Nikorima or
S2: more than they've got him around. Is it official?
S1: I think it's a done deal.
S2: It's over the line. Amazing. Yeah. So, what are you, mate?
S2: How do they fit all these blokes in? Uh, they've
S2: got about six new signings now. What? Drinkwater.
S1: Yep. They've got Drinkwater. Callum. Matangi.
S2: Koloamatangi.
S1: Uh uh, Nick you mentioned um John. John Morris is
S1: going there from the Tigers.
S2: Is he coming back?
S1: He's going back.
S2: No, he's assistant coach.
S1: An assistant coach. He's trying to expand upon his 300 games.
S1: He's going to play interchange. Um look I think now
S1: if right now I think the Dragons make the eight
S1: next year. Lock it in lock it in. That's my bold.
S1: My bold prediction for next year is that the dragons
S1: not just will make it. They definitely will make the eight.
S2: Wooden spooners to finalist.
S1: Yes. When's the last time that happened? I don't know, it.
S2: Could be this year. Newcastle will drop.
S1: Oh! Oh, bastard. Bastard I know. Um. Look, you put
S1: them names. You mentioned horsey with the Kautzman twins with
S1: Dylan Egan, Hamish Stuart throwing, Val Holmes and Gutho. I
S1: just hope the Dragons have enough speed to keep up
S1: with this spine. You know, they need to. They need
S1: some because Terrell Sloan's gone and he's the fastest player
S1: by a mile at the moment. They're lacking that guy
S1: who can run 100m like the Titans the other day
S1: against them showed how you can score a try from
S1: 50m out. The Dragons can't score many tries from 50m out,
S1: but with these new guys coming, they can certainly make
S1: the breaks that will lead to 50 meter tries.
S2: You mentioned Clint Gutherson. Where does he fit in next year?
S2: The veteran just played his 250 game.
S1: I think he's too slow for a centre or wing
S1: and I think he's not. I think he's.
S2: Because Drinkwater is fullback obviously.
S1: Yeah well Nick arena and McCaffrey halves. I think Gutho
S1: has a perfect 14. Just come on and be a
S1: you know a bit of a filler.
S2: Or there could be a tough conversation.
S1: Like, you know, you can go with Locke, play second row.
S1: He can play center like at a pinch. But I
S1: think his days at starting maybe over next year, once
S1: all the cavalry arrives.
S2: Laurie Daley has spoken about these reports. He's stepping down
S2: as blues coach, which we we figure he will do.
S2: We know that. But he's still holding off on an announcement.
S2: But it's more the health side of things. He's come
S2: out and clarified that, hey, what did he say?
S1: There's nothing nothing wrong with me. Yeah. So I sent
S1: him a text last night, you know, wishing him all
S1: the best because we broke it. I spoke to Clint
S1: Maynard yesterday, and as I was about to sign off,
S1: he said, wait there. There's breaking news that Laurie Daley
S1: has stepped down from New South Wales coach because of
S1: health reasons. So I got straight on my on my
S1: phone to Loz and said, mate, just heard the news.
S1: Hope it's okay. And is there anything we can do,
S1: you know, to help? And he said, mate, I'm fine.
S1: He said there's no health issues. He said it's.
S2: Well, that is good news.
S1: Well it's great news. Um, but now I suppose everything
S1: goes towards who's going to replace him. Um I know
S1: Joey Jones won't be. He's, he's already said no he's not.
S1: He's going to, you know, stop the speculation. So we
S1: will I think it's got to be Boyd Cordner with that.
S1: Matt King Brett White set up if not left left
S1: of field or right of field whatever you want it.
S1: John Strange.
S2: Oh yeah.
S1: Women's coach John Strange for you. I don't know. It's
S1: like I think I like the I like I like
S1: the beat of his drum. Yep. I just like what
S1: he does. I think I think he's a very hard
S1: for a man to coach in a girl's game and
S1: have authority without being too bombastic. Yeah. And I like
S1: the way he massages his ego into the girl's game
S1: without being too over the top. Um, so I think
S1: he'd be fantastic for the blokes game. I think he's look, he's,
S1: he's got a son and daughter both playing. They, you
S1: know they look like great kids. John Strange you could
S1: do worse than him for a year just to give
S1: it a go. Interesting because Ivan will be the coach
S1: after that.
S2: Ivan. Yeah. I still think that could make a a
S2: bending of the rules and bring Ivan in next year
S2: because the transition is underway. Penrith anyway, with Peter Wallace
S2: they bring Ivan in. Uh. Yeah.
S1: Didn't see that coming. Did you see it coming?
S2: Sort of. Well, well. Still a bit cool, but there's
S2: been some defensive issues on the left, hasn't there? So
S2: he's made he's pulled the pins. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. That's
S2: the sign of a good coach m g great job.
S2: Finished already? Yeah. Gotta move on, mate.
S1: Let's keep.
S2: Going. You got.
S1: Another day. Let's do a marathon. The daily marathon.
S2: Gotta keep it short.
S1: And punchy.
S2: Mate. Like how you used to play for the Panthers, mate.
S1: Off the bench.
S2: Off the bench. Hit him hard and get out of there.
S1: What about when I first come back? My first year
S1: back in 98, I was on the bench for every
S1: game that year and I averaged like in the first half.
S1: I'd come on after ten minutes, then go off in
S1: ten minutes because unlimited, unlimited to change back in them days.
S1: No more of them days.
S2: Good old days.
S1: You were good. Did I.
S2: Was I. Yeah mate.
S1: You're always.
S2: Good.
S1: You're always.
S2: Good. You can come back any time, right? You're gibbering now. Okay. Uh,
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