WEBVTT - Afternoons with Michael McLaren - Monday, June 16th 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:03.600 On two GB AD network stations. 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:08.400 This is Afternoons with Michael McLaren. 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:11.760 Well, it is good afternoon. Thank you. Let's get another 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:12.680 week underway, shall we. 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:15.000 It is June sixteen, that must be, and it's a Monday, 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:16.040 and it's nice to have your company. 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:18.680 It's beautiful outside. It's cold, but it's it's a very 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:19.239 nice day. 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:22.119 And that thunderstorm that rolled through it about was about 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:24.280 twenty to six last night where I was. That came 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:27.160 out of nowhere, anyway it went and it did what 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:29.680 it did. And a beautiful sky out there today. One 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:31.920 three one eight seven three. Nice to have you there 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:34.519 with us. Hope you had a good weekend. You can 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:36.800 get in touch via text. Many do that these days, 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:39.199 don't they Zero four six zero eight seven three eight 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:42.240 seven three. There's always the email two GB dot com 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:45.680 click on the feedback icon. We've got eyes everywhere at 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:47.920 the moment. One eye on what's happening in the Middle East, 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:51.040 one eye domestically, the Prime ministers in Canada for the 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:53.840 G seven, a meeting with Donald Trump on the horizon, 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:56.800 and of course all sorts of other stuff going on. 0:00:58.040 --> 0:00:59.600 We need a lot of eyes. 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:01.840 We're across it all for you, and we'll do our 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:03.800 best to cover it between now and three, and then 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:06.360 we tag team with Clinton. In the middle of all 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:08.240 of that, we've got to give away something as well, 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:11.920 with this wonderful winter wheel. Now I've got it here 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:14.800 beside me, with a sort of a blue interpretation of 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:18.640 Elepricorn's hat. I don't know what that's doing there. Perhaps 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:19.920 that's is that communal? 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:20.280 Is it? 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:22.520 Mark's worn that and we've sprayed it, and now I 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:24.840 get to wear it, and oh we haven't sprayed it. 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:26.240 Oh okay, we might have to do that. 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:29.200 But anyway, we've got that, and I think up to 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:31.959 twenty five hundred dollars and there's prizes and all sorts 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:34.560 of wonderful things on the wheel to warm up your 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:35.759 winter days like today. 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:38.720 So stay listening for the queue to call. 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:41.959 Later in the program, after one o'clock, I want to 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:44.440 catch up with Matt Kochin now. Matt is the CEO 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:49.240 of Members Health Fund Alliance, and the message is pretty simple, 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:52.880 although it is a timely reminder that those of us 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:56.360 with private health should be utilizing our health insurance extras 0:01:57.160 --> 0:02:00.600 before the end of the financial year. I'm as guilty 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:03.640 as probably most of you having some sort of level 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:06.400 of cover, and it comes with certain extras, and we've 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:09.040 been pretty careful to try to limit those because we 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:11.120 know we're not going to use them, so why pay 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:14.920 for them. But you tend to get some lumped in 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:18.160 with whatever package you want these days because the health 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:21.320 insurance know that you'll pay and not use it, and 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:22.440 that helps their bottom line. 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:23.680 So that's the business model, right. 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:26.240 But nonetheless, there is a way to try to get 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:27.840 some bang for your buck, and that is to use 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:31.400 them but for optical or dental or something to do 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:33.880 for hearing or whatever it is. So a bit of 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:35.560 a reminder of some of the tips and the traps 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:38.960 and the ideas, Matt will give us those after one o'clock. 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:41.320 In that same hour, Trent Nikolach will be back with 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:43.680 us from Drive the best in the business, Trent drive 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:45.800 dot com dot You get your motoring questions ready for 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:49.040 the great man travel Long no stranger to the program, 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:51.160 but he'll be with us in the final hour and 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:53.680 I'll ask him a couple of questions about these home 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:57.880 security systems which are proliferating like mushrooms in the suburbs. 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:02.800 A lot of people now have a video security system 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:04.799 in their home or on the outside of their home, 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:07.639 some of them inside the home, and we know why. 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:11.880 It's a preventative. The theory is that the burglar comes 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:14.160 to the front door or wherever they they see the 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:15.040 camera and think. 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:17.600 Oh, maybe I'll try next door. 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:20.560 And in a number of cases, I'm sure it works 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:23.280 that way, but not in all. And there are some 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:27.680 risks of having these systems, many of which are now 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:28.800 connected to the cloud. 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:33.000 There are some security risks, some privacy risks. Will outline 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:33.640 all of those. 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:36.760 I know that in Queensland the police put together like 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:39.800 a whole cheat sheet effectively for what homeowners should be 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:43.960 doing to secure their properties. And in Queensland you've got 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:45.640 youth crime and the whole thing's a mess. Right, they're 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:48.720 doing something about it. But this would have instigated a 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:50.640 lot of people saying, listen, honey, maybe we should just 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:52.400 go and buy one of these systems. 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:53.640 We keep hearing about it. 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:57.000 Can't do any harm, and I think on balance that's right. 0:03:57.040 --> 0:03:58.640 But the police say, look, there's a whole lot of 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:02.000 things you should be doing, essentially before you go and 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:06.080 get the camera. So we'll look at all of that, 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:08.280 and I'd be interested just how many of you out 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:11.960 there in listener land do have cameras now as part 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:15.960 of your home security arsenal? You know, when I grew 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:19.680 up a lot of people having an alarm system, and yeah, 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:22.080 the threshold was breached and off it went, and that 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:24.160 was it. And you put a lock on your front 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:25.560 door and your back door, and maybe a couple of 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:27.520 deadlocks on the windows if you're in a bad area, 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:29.479 and that was sort of that was it. Some people 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:31.440 had a dog, you know, the thing on the gate, 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:33.960 Beware of the dog, the chihah. 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:35.600 Okay. 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:39.440 But now it's all very sophisticated. I mean, you can 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:43.479 pick these things up at Bunnings, so I guess a 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:46.120 lot of people have invested in them. But you know, 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:48.159 there's good ones and bad ones. So we'll speak to 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:50.040 Trevor about all of that. We've got track of the day, 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:51.880 We've got everything coming your way to stay with us. 0:04:51.880 --> 0:05:00.480 One three, one eight seven three right on quarter pass twelve, 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:04.160 we'll look on Friday. Israel decided to strike a run, 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:09.120 decisively and hard. In a set of precision attacks months 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:11.719 in the planning and involving agents on the ground behind 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:16.839 enemy lines. They hit nuclear facilities missile silos and intelligence 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:19.640 hubs in the dead of night, and really one of 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:23.640 the most incredible military operations of modern times. Now, in 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:27.279 the days that have followed, both sides have been trading blows. 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:30.280 Araun just a matter of minutes ago hit an energy 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:33.039 installation in Haifa in Israel, so it's going tit for tat. 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:36.720 But despite those few Iranian missiles that have hit their target, 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:39.800 there is no doubt the Israelis are in the ascendency, 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:46.160 and their intelligence services and technical capability are clearly superior. 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:48.559 But I've got to say I am a bit shocked 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:50.960 by just how many people have said to me that 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:54.600 they're surprised that the Israelis have done what they've done 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:57.560 at this time. I mean, clearly, too many people have 0:05:57.560 --> 0:06:00.880 failed to put themselves in Jerusalem shoes and to see 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:04.920 the geostrategic situation from their perspective, because it's only when 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:08.719 you do that that you appreciate why now is the 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:12.480 obvious time to hit Iran and it's rapidly developing nuclear program. 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:16.560 Now in short, with Hezbollah and Hamas badly depleted, the 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:19.400 hooths weakened in Yemen and a sad now out of Syria, 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:24.680 Iran's ford flank, their buffer zone, as it were, appears 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:29.359 impotent for the first time in decades. The semi destruction 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:33.080 opens up the road to Tehran, or perhaps I should 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:36.880 say the flight path to Tehran for Israel to exploit. 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:40.760 Now no doubt Israeli leaning into that old sporting analogy, 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:44.960 namely that offense is the best form of defense. And 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:47.560 having watched the eye told as men continue to develop 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:50.839 their nuclear capability to the point where some say they 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:53.040 are a matter of weeks away from weaponizing it, should 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:56.839 they choose The Israelis have struck preemptively to go and 0:06:56.880 --> 0:07:02.039 remove the risk, and it is self defense, but not 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:06.120 just for Israel's sovereignty, because by weakening Iran's nuclear capacity, 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:08.960 Israel have actually done the entire Western hemisphere of favor. 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:11.840 Although in the immediacy of the conflict that might not 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:14.559 seem clear to everyone just now, but in the long term, 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:20.200 a badly weakened, non nuclear armed Iran is the key 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:23.120 to stability in the Middle East. Iran have been the 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:25.760 puppet masters behind the majority of the turbulence in that 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:28.080 part of the world, whilst they've of course been feeding 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:31.720 Putin's war machine on the side and now the regime, well, 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:34.520 that's in a fight for its own survival. So for 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:38.080 everyone's sake, and especially that of the people of Iran, 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:41.800 let's hope it's a fight that that resume loses. Because 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:44.600 we've got to be clear here, just as criticism of 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:48.480 China isn't a criticism of the Chinese people, the Israeli 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:51.080 attacks on Iran shouldn't be interpreted as an attack on 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:54.360 the Iranian people. They're a strike at the heart of 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:59.080 the Islamist regime that suffocated those same people since nineteen 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:04.080 seventy nine. But whether the precision strikes on nuclear facilities 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:07.400 and key leaders will be enough to incubate a broader 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:12.360 uprising within Iran against that regime, or whether conversely, it'll 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:16.240 actually engender a reactive swirl of nationalism, well, I mean 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:18.800 that's yet to be seen. What comes of this, that's 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:22.320 yet to be seen, of course, waiting in America, ready 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:24.920 to return to the peacock throne as the exiled crown prince. 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:28.760 But with all of that said, I guess many are 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:33.079 asking what should Australia and Australians learn from recent events? 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:37.720 Are there lessons from this escalation that we should absorb well, 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:40.480 in a word, the answer is yes, and the most 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:44.760 obvious concerns defense. Now, as Australia squabbles over whether to 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:47.720 spend this percent or that percent of GDP on defense, 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:51.400 we're really wasting valuable time not debating the real question, 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:55.800 which is this, what do we need to spend to 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:59.400 have the ability to become the military porcupine of Southeast Asia? 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:02.920 In other words, what kit do we need to acquire, 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:06.840 what capabilities so that any potential adversary will think twice 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:10.520 about striking us because of the damage doing that would 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:14.640 cause to them. Now, like the porcupine, sure a big 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:16.959 hand could grab it and hurt it, but not without 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:20.600 serious consequences. That's got to be the Australian mindset, and 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:23.840 that's been That's got to be our vision, it was 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:26.800 Israel's vision. And whether that means spending two and a 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:28.920 half or three or three and a half percent of GDP, 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:34.000 that's secondary. You need the vision and accompanying blueprint first. 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:37.640 But the other issue we've got to immediately face, I 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:41.760 think concerns internal cohesion here now, at this time, it 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:44.480 is crucial that our political and policing figures get on 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:47.760 the front foot and remind Australians that people among us 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:50.240 who happen to be Jewish are not to be treated 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:53.920 as the personification of the state of Israel. They are 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:58.079 not fair game to be abused, attacked, or ostrastized because 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:01.800 of their shared faith with that nation state. And no doubt, 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:04.160 the weekly street protests are about to werve back into 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:07.640 action following Israel's latest escalation. And as I've always said, 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:11.680 responsible protest is an intrinsic element of our democratic system. 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:15.720 But I'd ask those marching against Israel to spare just 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:19.720 a moment to consider what Iran is at present and 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:23.160 what it could be if the Iotola and his crew 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:26.400 were to step aside. Indeed, what the whole Middle East 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:31.320 could be if that were to happen. To imagine what 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:35.160 might be possible if Iran were to abandon any nuclear 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:37.920 ambitions that they may harbor. You see, the Iranian people 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:41.160 have a great and proud history, but it's being squandered 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:45.600 and suppressed by a hard line Islamic theocracy. And none 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:47.360 of this is to say that Israel is perfect, or 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:49.920 that it doesn't have hard line nationalists within its own government, 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:52.920 none of that. But those who can't comprehend why they've 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:56.199 hit Iran in this way at this time, need to 0:10:56.240 --> 0:11:02.880 put themselves in Jerusalem's shoes twenty four past twelve right 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:06.040 on the dot. The reason I use those last words 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:09.800 there just to try to ask that people just take 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:13.320 some perspective of what's happening here and not to target 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:16.240 Jewish Australians as the personification of Israel. I mean, you 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:17.640 can think whatever you want about Israe, you can think 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:20.120 whatever you want about a nation state, but you don't 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:23.439 go and target people who might share a common faith 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:25.400 with the majority of people in those countries as oh 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:27.320 well they're fair game. That's not what you do. We've 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:29.800 seen too much of it and it's wrong. I fear 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:31.960 that we're going to see more of this again. The 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:35.280 pro Palestine marches have quiet and down recently in the 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:37.040 rest of it, but I think it's all going to 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:38.960 wherr back up. And the reason I think that is 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:40.920 just seeing what's happening around the world, you know, and 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:43.840 we tend to follow the trend. In the United Kingdom 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:46.839 over the weekend there were big pro Palestine marches in 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:51.040 London where the people were chanting stop bombing Iran. So 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:55.880 they're conflating the whole thing, right, But you know, I 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:58.360 would urge those people even if they've got family in Iran. 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:01.720 I understand no one wants to see another nation state 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:04.160 bomb some other state, but they're going to understand why 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:06.880 it's happening and instead of going out there saying, oh, 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:11.200 don't bomb Iran. As if the Iranian people are being targeted. 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:14.080 The chances are a lot of these people are living 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:16.840 in London because they couldn't make a go of it 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:17.559 living under the. 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:18.880 Iotolers in Iran. 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:22.880 There's a reason why the professional class largely has gone 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:26.000 abroad because there's not much hope for them in Iran. 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:31.680 And so really, you know, rational people would be hoping 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:36.720 that maybe these bombing and targeting the nuclear facilities, the 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:42.079 energy facilities, the leading generals and intelligence chiefs and military 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:46.040 types within the Itoler's regime will be the spark that 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:50.240 can create the uprising to find the get rid of 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:53.160 the Iotoler's regime which have wreaked havoc on Iran since 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:57.480 nineteen seventy nine. There is a better future over the 0:12:57.520 --> 0:13:02.120 horizon if they do it. So I just wonder whether 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:05.040 these people in Western cities that go out protesting in 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:08.719 favor of Iran think before they do it, or is 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:11.400 this some sort of just muscle memory thing that goes 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:14.240 on some just obvious reaction that they think they have 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:17.600 to do. And as for those that have no Iranian 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:20.640 background but are worried about the bombing of Iran, well, 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:22.679 I mean, you know, how many of you understand what 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:25.200 life is like for the Iranian people in Iran? You know, 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:29.679 I just suspect a lot of people don't think. And 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:31.160 it's not to say that you have to be a 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:33.200 champion of the state of Israel to the point of 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:39.200 being its quasi ambassador, but you know that you've got 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:42.960 to think about what Iran is like, and what it's 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:45.600 like for women, what it's like for homosexuals, what it's 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:50.280 like for people who aren't quote unquote your standard male. 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:56.439 It's not pleasant and it's not going to change unless 0:13:56.480 --> 0:14:01.040 the regime changes. First three one, eight, seven three. A 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:03.080 lot of feedback coming through, Thank you for that. A 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:05.720 lot about the security systems. Funnily enough, Sandra says, how 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:08.600 ironic that getting a modern security system can itself be 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:13.760 a security risk. Well, quite right, someone here says home security. 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:16.320 I'm a bit old school. I still get along and I 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:20.720 just talk to the neighbors. It's true when you like 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:23.000 I am and fortunate to live in a part of 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:24.800 a street where all the neighbors get on and they 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:26.480 keep an eye out for each other. That is your 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:30.120 best form of home security. Your eye on holidays, the 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:32.000 neighbors keep an eye out for you, and they put 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:33.359 the bins in, put the bins. 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:33.920 Out, collect the mail. 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:36.560 That makes it look like there's someone home there, your 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:37.600 eyes and ears. 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:38.720 It's the way it used to be. 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:43.760 That as we all become, not all, but generally, the 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:47.840 trend is to be less neighborly, less familiar with those 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:50.960 around you, we sort of retreat into our own little silos. 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:54.800 Increasingly we're losing a bit of that, and that's sad 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:56.800 on a number of levels. It's certainly sad on a 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:59.200 security point of view. James makes a good point with health. 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:02.720 He says, a tip for the listeners, stop paying for extras. 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:05.960 You don't need them. They only extras. You can just 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:08.240 have hospital cover to avoid the hefty tax debts, but 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:10.280 just get rid of the extra payments and put it 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:14.960 into a savings account. Keep those amounts going and put 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:16.840 it in a separate account. And if you need to 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:19.320 pay for anything so called extra, well you'll have the 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:21.480 money there set aside to do it for the rainy day. 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:24.080 It's a pretty good tip. You've just got to be disciplined. 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:28.480 Sam says, not only do I have an eight camera system, 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:33.560 wow eight, but I also have a missile defense system 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:37.320 called a very alert Belgian MALINOIR. I pity the fool 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:41.160 that sets foot through the door. That's from Sam on 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:44.320 the Porcupine theory. John says, that's not quite the case. 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:48.640 We need the Echidneer theory. After all, we're Australian's point taken. 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:53.600 Good a James, Oh hey you gone, Michael, Well, I'm 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:57.200 just ringing up. My wife's been talking about this seas. 0:15:57.360 --> 0:16:03.720 My wife's Persian, yep, I'm Iranians, and she's been talking 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:06.280 about this for years, waiting for the opportunity for the 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:09.600 people to have some sort of freedom. Every year, on 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:13.440 an average, six hundred to seven hundred women alone get 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:16.800 murdered by the government over there, just for basic stuff, 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:20.400 a bit of hair not in the wrong position or whatever. 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:23.440 And they pick them up off the streak, they put them. 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:25.600 They're pushed into a vent and taken away and killed, 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:29.240 and not just killed, but they're tortured then killed, you know. 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:33.040 So it's and you don't hear about this on our 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:36.640 media yet, not one bit of what happens to the 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:42.640 people in their arm It's atrocious and they've started to 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:47.360 rise already after the attacks. Israel has helped them a lot. 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:50.320 To be honest, Well, it could be the catalyst for change. 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:53.760 I'm not sure we're seeing enough of a groundsworld just yet, 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:55.800 but maybe it'll come. I think it depends on the 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:57.120 strength of the Iranian economy. 0:16:57.120 --> 0:16:57.440 I mean, the. 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:01.480 Israeli targets have been very person They're not just going 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:03.720 in and bombing neighborhoods or anything like that. They are 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:06.840 hitting it seems very selective targets and doing it with 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:10.120 incredible precision. There will be collateral, that's a great tragedy, 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:13.320 but they do seem very careful at this point as 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:16.120 to what they're hitting when and how. And if they 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:21.080 cripple Iran's economy, then that could be the straw that 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:24.240 breaks the camels back for the iotolers, because without money 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:27.120 then people will rise up, particularly if they are offered 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:30.320 a better way by an alternative. Now, whether the alternative 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:32.919 is the crown Prince who's in exile in the United States, 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:36.520 he comes back and forms a constitutional monarchy of sorts. 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:40.159 I mean, I don't know, but what's there at the 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:43.440 moment isn't working in the best interests of your average Iranian. 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:48.080 For some men it's great, but for the majority, it's bad. 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:50.239 And the sanctions and everything else that come with it 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:53.359 are crippling. And look, I wouldn't be surprised if the 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:56.560 next targets of the Israelis are the ports in South Iran. 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:59.360 I mean, if they start hitting the ports, Iran, which 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:02.640 is a net of a range of essential products, is crippled, 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:05.480 and if that's what they strike, then you know it 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:06.720 could be going on over there. 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:07.760 James, thank you. 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:11.160 I really appreciate your call and the knowledge there firsthand 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:13.440 from your wife one three one eight seven three. It's 0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:18.520 twenty seven to one stacks of feedback about the security systems. 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:20.359 We'll cover all that off for Trevor Long in the 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:23.600 final hour, but while we're still talking about it, Brett says, 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:26.040 I recently fitted some dummy cameras. 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:26.280 At our place. 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:29.000 While I was putting them up, I noticed the instructions 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:31.640 on the box which said if this product doesn't meet 0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:36.120 your expectations, please call our helpline. 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:38.480 Fat lot of good that'll do good on your Brett 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:39.360 well observed. 0:18:40.119 --> 0:18:42.920 Scotty says, my best mate's a cop, and he says 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:45.840 there are countless times he's seen footage where it would 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:47.960 be thief sites. 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:50.760 A camera turns and leaves. 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:53.320 Now you know we're in a suburb where you have 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:55.640 one of these local Facebook groups. I think every suburb's 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:56.960 now got one of these sort of things, you know, 0:18:57.080 --> 0:19:00.120 friends of whatever suburb Facebook group. It's a bit like 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:04.240 the digital version of neighborhood Watch and daily because my 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:07.080 wife shows me all these things daily. There are people 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:11.120 posting security camera footage from their patio or front door, 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:14.960 annex or whatever it is of young men dressed in 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:18.360 a lot of dark clothing milling around at sort of midnight, 0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:23.440 obviously not dropping off meals for wheels. So it can 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:25.800 come in handy, certainly, I would imagine from a police 0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:27.880 point of view, if they're trying to gather evidence, you said, 0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:29.360 well I've been broken into, and oh, by the way, 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:33.520 here's the footage, Go and find these dudes. It can 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:36.040 no doubt come in handy. Diane says, I live in 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:38.120 a colder sack, and everyone knows and helps and looks 0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:38.760 out for each other. 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:39.880 It's the only way to live. 0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:43.359 Anthony on the situation they released, says the problem with 0:19:43.440 --> 0:19:45.760 the attack being a catalyst for change, He says, I 0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:48.560 fear a more extreme leader would seize power on the 0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:51.080 back of the anti Israel sentiment. 0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:55.040 Well, there is that concern. That is an option. 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:58.959 But if the Iranian people were smart, they would go 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:00.439 in the opposite direction. 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:06.480 But I guess the ball will be in their courts. 0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:11.479 Winter Wheel Okay, Now we're turning up the heat, as 0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:13.679 you know, with up to forty thousand dollars worth of 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:16.919 cash and prizes to be one on Twogb's Winter Wheel. 0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:19.600 Now we're spinning the wheel in breakfast mornings right here 0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:22.119 on afternoons. I've been working out all weekend to make 0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:23.600 sure I do a beautiful spin for you. 0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:24.320 Has Sydney. 0:20:24.359 --> 0:20:27.120 Now Clinton hasn't been working out. I had a look 0:20:27.119 --> 0:20:30.040 at his arm today. Not much happening. 0:20:30.040 --> 0:20:30.240 There. 0:20:30.640 --> 0:20:33.040 Should be doing a few setups or push ups or something. 0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:35.120 Come on, Clinton, it's a big, heavy wheel. This one 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:39.000 be embarrassing. If you couldn't turn it like that'd be 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:41.760 really that'd be unfortunate, wouldn't it. You know, he go 0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:46.439 for the big spin and it goes does one anyway. 0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:48.159 I'm not saying it's going to come to that, but 0:20:48.480 --> 0:20:50.320 just four warned is fore armed. So what you got 0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:52.399 to do is listen to the que to call later 0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:56.960 in the show, and you could spin and win with 0:20:57.080 --> 0:21:00.800 Twogb's Winter Wheel, and there's some fantastic cash and some 0:21:00.840 --> 0:21:03.680 wonderful prizes that aren't cash. You are going to be 0:21:03.680 --> 0:21:05.399 happy no matter what you get. So stayed listening to 0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:06.840 that cue to call later in the show. When you 0:21:06.840 --> 0:21:09.120 hear it, I want you to jump on the prize line, 0:21:09.119 --> 0:21:10.800 all right, when you hear it later in the show, 0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:12.400 the prize line, jot it down, by the way, put 0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:14.480 it in your put it in your phone, speed dial 0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:17.800 one three hundred seven, double two eight seven to three. 0:21:18.600 --> 0:21:21.440 Now, just before we take another break. 0:21:22.280 --> 0:21:25.200 That security story, security camera story I was referring to earlier, 0:21:25.280 --> 0:21:28.680 that was by a journalist in the ABC over over 0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:29.560 the weekend or overnight. 0:21:29.600 --> 0:21:30.240 Interesting story. 0:21:30.280 --> 0:21:32.840 Will do with it later, But there was another aspect 0:21:32.880 --> 0:21:36.200 to it that had nothing to do with security, more 0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:39.040 to do with style in the journalistic sense. That caught 0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:42.399 my attention and I wonder. I don't know, Maybe we 0:21:42.440 --> 0:21:44.640 should ask the ABC if this is now their policy. 0:21:44.720 --> 0:21:47.399 I don't know, but there does seem to be a 0:21:47.480 --> 0:21:49.879 secondary aspect of this story, and it goes to the 0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:54.080 way that the journalist describes locations. Let me give you 0:21:54.160 --> 0:21:58.600 an example, paragraph two quote he has four cameras outside 0:21:58.640 --> 0:22:05.879 his unit at Sunshine Auth in Melbourne on Warunjuri country. Yeah, okay, 0:22:06.840 --> 0:22:09.520 get what I'm getting at here. Later in the story, 0:22:09.560 --> 0:22:12.720 example number two, Alistair Baines manages a company based in 0:22:12.840 --> 0:22:19.000 Warunjuri slash Box Hill, South Victoria. Four paragraphs below that 0:22:20.000 --> 0:22:23.960 as Berneau, a lecturer in Technology and crime at Griffith 0:22:24.040 --> 0:22:29.639 University on com Bameeri Lands slash Gold Coast. And then 0:22:29.720 --> 0:22:32.480 later in the story, Rick Browners, Deputy director at the 0:22:32.480 --> 0:22:36.840 Australian Institute of Criminology at Nunea Wall slash Barton in 0:22:36.880 --> 0:22:42.639 the act, is this now the ABC's policy to indigenize 0:22:42.640 --> 0:22:45.760 place names often before the actual name that we actually 0:22:45.800 --> 0:22:48.000 recognize and know when you punch it into the GBS? 0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:49.960 Or is this just a. 0:22:49.960 --> 0:22:53.080 Journalist doing their own thing and trying to start a trend. 0:22:53.200 --> 0:22:56.520 I don't know. Am I going to lose any sleepover it. 0:22:56.640 --> 0:23:01.240 No, but it's kind of interesting that the national broadcast 0:23:01.320 --> 0:23:03.040 have decided this is what they're going to do. 0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:03.280 Now. 0:23:03.320 --> 0:23:06.480 I know on SBS when they do the weather at 0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:10.639 about twenty five past seven at the end of their 0:23:10.720 --> 0:23:13.240 SBS news and I watched the It's Good News service, 0:23:13.280 --> 0:23:15.399 But at the end they do all the city names 0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:19.119 in the traditional name Sydney, Melbourne, Canberra or whatever, and 0:23:19.160 --> 0:23:21.400 then they sort of fade in and out and back 0:23:21.440 --> 0:23:23.359 we go and we get all the indigenous names. 0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:25.879 So yeah, what is it? Namas Melbourne? 0:23:25.880 --> 0:23:27.440 And I don't know what Sydney is and the way 0:23:27.480 --> 0:23:33.600 you gominge and I think is Brisbane. And now knowledge 0:23:33.680 --> 0:23:36.720 is power, Okay, so we learn something. Maybe that's all 0:23:36.720 --> 0:23:41.520 it is. But where is this going to head anywhere further? 0:23:42.600 --> 0:23:45.000 Or are we going to Yeah? I see, I just 0:23:45.040 --> 0:23:47.359 think back. Call me a conspiracy theorist. Maybe this is 0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:50.800 the overnights in me coming out seeping through. But years 0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:52.640 and years ago, when you go back to the Sydney Olympics, 0:23:52.640 --> 0:23:55.080 there was a push on by some and it was 0:23:55.160 --> 0:23:57.600 roundly defeated because it was crazy, but there was a 0:23:57.600 --> 0:23:59.800 push on by some to go and rename a lot 0:23:59.800 --> 0:24:05.080 of our landmarks in indigenous names to the point I 0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:07.520 think where the Sydney Harbor Bridge was going to get 0:24:07.520 --> 0:24:09.600 a name. Now, to the best of my knowledge, that 0:24:09.680 --> 0:24:13.440 sort of engineering technology had not existed in Australia prior 0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:16.480 to the arrival of Europeans, so finding the name for 0:24:16.560 --> 0:24:20.760 something like that would have been fascinating. But nonetheless there 0:24:20.840 --> 0:24:22.280 was a bit of a push on for this sort 0:24:22.320 --> 0:24:24.679 of thing, and then it faded away and then it 0:24:24.680 --> 0:24:28.320 comes back. So I don't know. This isn't coming from government, 0:24:28.320 --> 0:24:30.919 but the ABC is an arm of government as the 0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:31.959 national broadcaster. 0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:35.600 I just wonder if this is the new style guide. Now. 0:24:35.640 --> 0:24:42.440 I've been told that in the New South Wales schooling 0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:46.440 system there have been a number of examples in practice 0:24:46.440 --> 0:24:51.160 maths tests and this sort of thing where the problem 0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:54.080 to be solved. Let's say it's a train going from 0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:55.600 point A to point B and you're trying to work 0:24:55.640 --> 0:24:57.560 out the average speed or something. You know, you get 0:24:57.600 --> 0:25:01.080 the numbers, it's an equation, but instead of saying the 0:25:01.080 --> 0:25:04.719 trains going from Hornsby to Tara Maura or something, well, 0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:06.800 Taramara is a bad example because that's an indigenous thud. 0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:07.520 But you know what I mean. 0:25:08.080 --> 0:25:11.640 They give all of these indigenous names, and so maybe 0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:12.840 the children are a bit confused. 0:25:15.280 --> 0:25:18.320 Is this a bad thing? No, I'm not saying it's bad, 0:25:19.160 --> 0:25:21.600 but could it be a little confusing? Yeah, it could be. 0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:27.280 And if this is a deliberate policy to start co 0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:33.040 naming everything, then maybe that should be transparent. Maybe the ABC, 0:25:33.600 --> 0:25:36.920 if this is the Polishes, say yeah, there's what we're doing. 0:25:37.040 --> 0:25:39.800 Okay, fine, I said, I mean, it's fascinating. 0:25:40.359 --> 0:25:43.159 I suppose to a certain extent to understand that the 0:25:44.119 --> 0:25:47.840 gold Coaster is on whatever land or okay, or that 0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:50.560 Barton in the Act is not a wall. I mean, 0:25:50.600 --> 0:25:53.439 I didn't know that. Do I need to know it? 0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:55.359 Probably not. But there again, there's a lot about what 0:25:55.359 --> 0:25:57.639 we learn in history classes. We don't really need to know, 0:25:57.920 --> 0:25:59.760 but we learn it, and it adds to the body 0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:02.400 of No. But I just wonder if this is sort 0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:07.240 of being brought in via stealth, or if this is 0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:09.760 a deliberate policy, or as I said, this is just 0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:12.080 a journal going on a frolic. I don't know, but 0:26:12.200 --> 0:26:13.840 you might have noticed this in some other places. 0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:14.040 I know. 0:26:14.080 --> 0:26:16.119 Ben was running that story last week about the Gosford 0:26:16.119 --> 0:26:20.600 Hospital where the emergency room is being translated as sick 0:26:20.680 --> 0:26:24.960 cave in the local Indigenous language. I think the rationale 0:26:25.040 --> 0:26:30.600 is to make Indigenous people feel more welcome or something 0:26:30.680 --> 0:26:33.000 like that when they attend the emergency I didn't know 0:26:33.040 --> 0:26:34.760 they didn't feel welcome in the first place. 0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:37.720 But it does seem a little bit. 0:26:37.680 --> 0:26:43.440 Forced, doesn't it. You know, Okay, emergency room, sick cave. 0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:49.000 We get the connection. But before modern hospital and medical 0:26:50.160 --> 0:26:54.480 equipment arrived in Australia or was developed in Australia, these 0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:58.280 concepts weren't known. So we're sort of making it up 0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:01.040 a bit. I think they're trying to square pegs in 0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:05.560 round holes. And whether it adds to the sum total 0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:07.600 of knowledge, I don't know. You might have a thought 0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:09.640 on that one three, one eight seven three it's quarter 0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:15.199 to one. Just on the dual naming policy of SLASH. 0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:17.600 Is it a policy, We don't know. We're seeking clarification, 0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:19.920 but it'd be fascinating if that then seeps through every 0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:20.720 aspect of government. 0:27:20.760 --> 0:27:21.520 I suspect it will. 0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:23.480 I think we're just seeing the opening salvo as it 0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:26.760 were here, because imagine when the RMS get hold of this. 0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:30.400 If the street signs aren't confusing enough already, imagine driving 0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:36.200 up Victoria Roads slash whatever the traditional name is, because 0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:38.679 you know, like, okay, Paramatter Roads a bit of a 0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:43.120 confusing example, because paramatter is an anglicized version of borrow matter, 0:27:43.200 --> 0:27:45.640 I think, which is the Indigenous word for the place 0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:47.960 where the eels meet, or words to that effect. Hence 0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:51.879 the paramatter eels and all the rest. But that route 0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:56.640 between where the Colony of Sydney was and the governmental 0:27:56.680 --> 0:28:00.520 center out at Paramatter or Camellia rose Hill as it was, 0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:04.600 that I think was also a fairly well trodden traditional 0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:08.200 Indigenous route. So there may in fact be a kind 0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:13.280 of name that could be applied to that particular track, 0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:15.800 as it were. But beyond that it could be a 0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:20.360 little confusing. But let's just see what happens, could I rod? 0:28:20.960 --> 0:28:24.680 I'm just scringing about the indigenous doings on the ABC. 0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:28.000 Yes, they have. 0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:32.960 A welcome to country before the football course every weekend 0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:37.240 on the radio and on the radio, Welcome to Country, 0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:40.400 Welcome to the grounds that this game has been played on. 0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:44.280 All this sort of garbage. There's been three this year 0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:48.240 from New Zealand and they still do a welcome to 0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:49.880 country and the games in New Zealand. 0:28:50.120 --> 0:28:51.280 Okay, that's interesting. 0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:53.800 And they also done it when the game was in Vegas. 0:28:54.280 --> 0:28:59.800 They go, hey, your kid, No, well, how could you 0:28:59.800 --> 0:29:01.160 do it from Vegas. 0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:03.760 I'm not kidding, it's just it's just a thing that 0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:07.120 put on every week before the football Welcome the country. 0:29:07.240 --> 0:29:10.560 Okay, but but but what country? What country have been 0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:11.960 welcome to in Las Vegas? 0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:14.560 And what country you're been welcome to in New Zealand. 0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:17.600 Well they could say a to row in New Zealand, 0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:19.920 or so, I mean there is a Polynesian I suppose 0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:24.320 connection or whatever in that whole background welcome the country. 0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:27.840 When they do welcome the country here that's Torres, Straight 0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:31.880 Islanders and Indigenous austrange Yeah. 0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:33.080 I know, but I'm just trying. 0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:34.720 I'm just trying to get to the bottom of of 0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:37.640 of you know, what what the Vegas welcome was. 0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:40.200 I mean, what the traditional lands of who? 0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:44.160 No, the traditional lands of the people of this scattery 0:29:44.320 --> 0:29:48.280 of Australia in vague take any notice where the game's 0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:48.840 coming from. 0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:50.200 Oh right, okay, they. 0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:52.960 Just put it on automatically, so to welcome the country 0:29:53.000 --> 0:29:57.320 even if you're not on country yep, right, Okay, Well 0:29:57.360 --> 0:30:00.400 that's that's why I just stretched the imagination, right, I 0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:02.360 must admit, because if I'm listening to the football, I'm 0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:04.760 obviously listening to continuous call to him because I listen. 0:30:04.640 --> 0:30:05.040 To the best. 0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:08.120 But if that's what they do, that's a kind of 0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:10.200 a stretch of friendship. 0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:10.920 I suppose. 0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:13.920 Welcome to the traditional lands of whatever. We're here in 0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:17.720 Las Vegas this week. It's okay, Can someone else confirm 0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:20.400 that one for me? One three, one eight seven three. 0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:24.240 Troy suggests that Paramatter actually means place of many parking fines, which. 0:30:25.840 --> 0:30:26.760 Might be true. 0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:30.440 As someone who got his l's and p's very gradually 0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:32.280 in the great city of Paramatter, I can tell you 0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:34.840 it's the place of many one way streets that cost 0:30:34.880 --> 0:30:36.680 me a fair bit of money. One three one eight 0:30:36.720 --> 0:30:40.240 seven three. Now to the energy mixed situation. Obviously, we've 0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:42.520 been focusing here on the show about what Victoria are 0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:46.000 trying to achieve by twenty thirty and then twenty forty, 0:30:46.440 --> 0:30:49.680 which is to be completely renewable energy with a bit 0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:53.000 of battery backup and whatever. Mind you, they're not going 0:30:53.040 --> 0:30:56.719 to sever the connecting ties to New South Wales and 0:30:56.800 --> 0:30:59.680 Tasmania and South Australia with the national energy market. They're 0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:02.920 not so courageous, should I say, not so stupid as 0:31:02.960 --> 0:31:05.360 to think they can do it completely on their own. 0:31:05.480 --> 0:31:08.680 But they do have this road map, blue blueprint, whatever 0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:11.560 you want to call it. It is a document of fantasy, 0:31:11.640 --> 0:31:15.000 of course, but they've produced it. Nonetheless, that suggests by 0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:17.000 x state and it's not that far down the track 0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:20.640 that they will be virtually completely renewably reliant. 0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:22.600 Now it's interesting. 0:31:22.640 --> 0:31:25.760 They'll look at the national energy fuel mix today, the 0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:28.240 snapshot that I last got updated at eleven thirty in 0:31:28.280 --> 0:31:30.280 the morning, and say, well, look, you know, we've got 0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:34.880 some hope because at eleven thirty this morning, forty eight 0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:40.840 percent of Victoria's generation was coming from wind, forty one 0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:43.840 percent from brown coal. But bear in mind, in a 0:31:43.840 --> 0:31:45.840 couple of years time, or three or five or whatever 0:31:45.880 --> 0:31:47.920 year's time, that brown coal will be zero because it'll 0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:51.840 be decommissioned, and so the renewable's going to have to 0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:54.720 pick up the slack. Sola was giving about nine percent 0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:58.040 of the grid. Two percent was hydro gas hadn't been activated. 0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:01.560 That will be a very significant figure in the year's 0:32:01.600 --> 0:32:04.840 ahead because without coal and without nuclear, gas is going 0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:07.600 to be the backup. So they'll look at that today 0:32:07.640 --> 0:32:10.360 in spring Street and say, well, look, okay, we're halfway there. 0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:12.959 But of course, if they're being honest, they have a 0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:16.480 favorable day as far as the wind conditions are concerned. 0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:19.040 This time last week wind was producing about five percent. 0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:22.720 So let's look north of the border, because of course, 0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:24.640 if it falls in a heap in Victoria, they'll be 0:32:24.680 --> 0:32:29.480 relying on generation coming from other jurisdictions to plug the gap. 0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:32.920 So what's New South Wales doing today? Well, I wouldn't 0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:36.680 be relying on our wind infrastructure, as extensive as it is. 0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:41.360 Two percent. Two percent of generation in New South Wales 0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:45.200 was from all of those wind turbines. Two percent solar 0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:48.880 was healthy at thirty four I'll granted that, But sixty 0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:51.800 three percent of the grid was coming from old King 0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:54.520 coal black coal. Now again, I'm not telling you all 0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:56.360 of this to say that we should have coal forever 0:32:56.640 --> 0:32:59.560 or we should have no coal. I'm energy agnostic, but 0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:02.080 you know that I very much think we should be 0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:05.840 smart and introduce nuclear to the grid to have the 0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:10.719 option of guaranteed base load power that is zero emissions 0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:13.360 and from an efficiency point of view, and this is 0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:17.280 the point that's always overlooked. Yes, nuclear is expensive, but 0:33:17.360 --> 0:33:21.360 it is the most efficient form of energy generation that 0:33:21.400 --> 0:33:24.840 we have developed as a race, as a species. Now 0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:27.800 in the future we may be able to better it, 0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:30.520 but it'll be a damn efficient system because nuclear is 0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:36.200 enormously efficient pound for pound compared even to coal. It 0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:40.920 absolutely leaves wind and solar and the rest in the shade. 0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:46.520 So if productivity is based off efficiency, which it generally 0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:49.000 is in the economy, we would be wise to be 0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:54.480 investing in the most efficient form of generation. It happens 0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:57.840 to have the added bonus for the environmentalist inclined of 0:33:57.880 --> 0:34:03.600 being zero immersions, and that's nuclear. That's not renewables anyway. 0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:06.680 So it's a tale of two states at this point 0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:10.880 in time. But often those charts are easily interchangeable. It's 0:34:11.000 --> 0:34:13.680 quite frequently that in Victoria brown coal as well over 0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:15.879 fifty or sixty percent of the grid on any given day, 0:34:15.920 --> 0:34:19.480 any given moment. With that being phased out, they are 0:34:19.520 --> 0:34:21.640 going to be in a world of pain, a world 0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:24.520 of pain, and it will be within our lifetimes. I 0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:26.279 think that we experience it. As I said, if they 0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:29.840 avoid it, I'll eat humble pie. But I'm not feeling 0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:32.480 peckish at the moment. Just quietly one three one eight 0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:35.719 seven three five to one, Greg asking on the text, 0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:38.240 do we know how the energy supply works when Victoria's 0:34:38.320 --> 0:34:40.480 run out and New South Wales is running at full capacity? 0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:42.799 Does it mean New South Wales goes without in order 0:34:42.840 --> 0:34:45.600 to supply Victoria? Sort of in the minute, I've got 0:34:45.600 --> 0:34:49.319 my understanding. Greg is not quite like that. But you 0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:53.000 have a national energy market, and so you've got generators 0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:58.120 that are supplying energy into the grid, the Eastern Coast grid, 0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:01.319 and if for example, VIC Torria were to have all 0:35:01.360 --> 0:35:05.839 of their generation capacity explode, the demand is still there 0:35:05.840 --> 0:35:08.880 from the consumers and the industries, and so the generating 0:35:08.880 --> 0:35:11.040 capacity out of Queensland, South Australia and New South past 0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:15.640 Tasmania is asked to go full throttle. Gas would be 0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:19.040 brought on peaking plans, but the price of the energy 0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:22.839 produced would go through the roof because the seller can 0:35:22.920 --> 0:35:26.920 demand much higher prices for the product that they're selling. 0:35:27.560 --> 0:35:30.120 It's sort of supply and demand in the traditional economic sense. 0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:34.959 And so would there then be brownouts and shortages? Look, 0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:38.279 that would depend on contractual arrangements in each state, but 0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:42.000 the price of energy available would be going through the roof. 0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:45.640 And so when you have one of your main states 0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:49.040 short of juice, even if the others are sufficiently covered, 0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:50.840 there would be a financial knock on effect at the 0:35:50.920 --> 0:35:53.359 very least. And so I guess we'd all pay for 0:35:53.480 --> 0:35:54.200 the ideology. 0:35:54.360 --> 0:36:00.480 Users up now, Now onto GB and network stations. Back 0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:03.759 to afternoons with Michael McLaren, all. 0:36:03.760 --> 0:36:05.600 Right into the second hour. Thank you for being there 0:36:05.640 --> 0:36:05.920 with us. 0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:08.080 I'd forgive you if you weren't, because it's a beautiful 0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:10.360 day outside, a nice day to go and walk the 0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:12.160 dog or I don't know, whatever you want to do. 0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:15.600 If you're working from home, I don't know how productive 0:36:15.640 --> 0:36:16.960 you would be on a day like today. 0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:18.880 If the garden is calling the garden. 0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:21.320 I did a bit of gardening over the weekend yesterday 0:36:21.360 --> 0:36:23.920 before the storm hit the footballs on what that is, 0:36:23.960 --> 0:36:27.600 before it got dark out there weeding and it's just 0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:30.799 it's that kind of the weather's been very conducive to 0:36:30.840 --> 0:36:33.400 the weeds. I don't know what's going on. The bulbs 0:36:33.400 --> 0:36:37.680 are coming through, they're looking good. I've read Graham Ross's 0:36:37.719 --> 0:36:40.879 latest magazine and so I was reading the articles. You've 0:36:40.880 --> 0:36:43.040 got to fertilize the bulbs now with I think. 0:36:42.880 --> 0:36:46.440 It was what would we do? It was hanging on 0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:49.360 what was it that we were throwing on it? Blood 0:36:49.360 --> 0:36:50.319 and bone? That was it? 0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:52.960 Blood and bone for the bulbs. I think, so over 0:36:53.040 --> 0:36:55.239 that goes and they've got blood and bone that now 0:36:55.280 --> 0:36:57.279 doesn't smell like blood and bone. Remember in the old 0:36:57.400 --> 0:36:59.359 days blood and bone. Dad used to have it under 0:36:59.400 --> 0:37:01.560 the house. We had the garage and they had the 0:37:01.600 --> 0:37:03.759 sort of the manhole under the house there and the 0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:06.120 mob was hid and everything used to be hid, and 0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:07.799 you used to get it out and you could smell 0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:10.000 it from three and a half miles away like it was. 0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:13.560 It was horrendous, right, and you thought, well, if it 0:37:13.640 --> 0:37:17.520 smells this bad, it's gotta work. Like anything that stinks 0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:20.160 this bad is going to really make the roses blue. 0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:20.879 And it did. 0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:25.080 But now they I don't know, it's smellless either that 0:37:25.200 --> 0:37:27.000 or I've lost my sense of smell one of the two. 0:37:27.000 --> 0:37:29.800 But I suspect it's the former. Is it just potent? 0:37:29.840 --> 0:37:32.520 I wonder maybe there's less blood and less. 0:37:32.280 --> 0:37:38.120 Bone in it? Whatever? Anyway, But where was I? 0:37:38.160 --> 0:37:40.440 Oh, the gardening, I was doing the weeding, that's right. 0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:42.279 So they've done the weeding bit of it, and there's 0:37:42.280 --> 0:37:44.359 a lot more to do. It's like, I don't know. 0:37:44.800 --> 0:37:47.480 You pull all these weeds out and you sort of 0:37:47.560 --> 0:37:48.160 look back. 0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:50.120 And admire what you've done, and you think, oh, that's 0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:53.000 good hard work, and then you can see them coming through. Yeah, 0:37:53.239 --> 0:37:55.720 you've only just stopped. And then these little green bugge's 0:37:56.440 --> 0:38:00.440 through they coming. Oh god, anyway, such as life one 0:38:00.520 --> 0:38:03.040 three one eight seven three, the open line number, don't 0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:06.160 forget after the half pass news, Trent will be here 0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:08.640 with drives to get all your motoring questions ready. In fact, 0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:11.359 he's in the building already rugged up and ready to go. 0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:13.399 He's got a I think a jack of it. Richard 0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:16.040 Burton was rocking in the nineteen seventies. It looks very good. 0:38:16.640 --> 0:38:20.760 So he's here and we've got obviously spin the wheel, 0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:23.480 the winter wheel, the two GB winter whel wonderful prizes. 0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:25.920 Stay listening for that cue to call one three one 0:38:26.040 --> 0:38:28.600 eight seven three. Well, we are approaching the end of 0:38:28.640 --> 0:38:31.680 the financial year, fast approaching. It's weeks away now, and 0:38:31.760 --> 0:38:34.719 it is a time of getting the affairs in order, 0:38:34.960 --> 0:38:36.360 preparing to lodge a tax return. 0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:38.600 Of course, yes, got to do that. Although there's sort of. 0:38:38.560 --> 0:38:42.320 Fun things that July brings. But one thing that people 0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:47.080 may not think about is private health insurance benefits, dental, optical, 0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:51.120 physio psychology. All of these are typically included in private 0:38:51.160 --> 0:38:54.240 health cover of one sort and they come with annual limits, 0:38:54.600 --> 0:38:56.440 but you pay for them, and it means either at 0:38:56.440 --> 0:38:58.400 the end of the financial year or in some cases 0:38:58.400 --> 0:39:02.319 at the end of the calendar year, benefits reset and 0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:07.319 if unused, well the allowance just expires. They don't roll over. 0:39:07.920 --> 0:39:10.080 So if you're paying top dollar for your private health cover, 0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:12.520 I think it is worth getting the most out of 0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:15.560 your plan and using the benefits that you have before 0:39:15.680 --> 0:39:17.880 July one, if indeed that is the threshold. 0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:20.560 Now it is a big issue for a lot of Australians. 0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:23.520 More than half of the Australian population have some level 0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:26.640 of cover in a private health fund, thirteen point six 0:39:26.719 --> 0:39:29.640 million of us to be precise. So using your benefits 0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:32.600 doesn't necessarily mean you're just treating problems that you may 0:39:32.640 --> 0:39:35.160 already have. Thousands of people have private health cover without 0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:39.359 any major pre existing conditions. But these extras, as it were, 0:39:39.880 --> 0:39:41.840 they are the things that are quite easily accessible, but 0:39:41.880 --> 0:39:45.080 a lot of people just leave them wasted money. Well, 0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:48.880 Matt coch is the CEO of the Member's Health Fund Alliance. 0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:50.440 I thought we'd have a chat to him about this 0:39:50.719 --> 0:39:53.080 timely reminder, and he's with me on the line. Great 0:39:53.080 --> 0:39:54.560 to speak, Matt, thank you for your time. 0:39:55.120 --> 0:39:57.560 Good to talk, and you provided a great summary there 0:39:57.600 --> 0:39:59.360 of what extras is. And you know, it's one of 0:39:59.400 --> 0:40:01.719 those things if you don't use it, you kind of 0:40:01.760 --> 0:40:04.759 lose it. And some funds have their benefit limits set 0:40:04.800 --> 0:40:06.880 at the end of the financial year, others on the 0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:09.680 thirty first of December. But either way, it's a really 0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:12.919 good time right now to check what your limits are 0:40:13.480 --> 0:40:15.840 and make the most of your private health insurance. And 0:40:15.880 --> 0:40:18.200 these are the things people like to use. So it's 0:40:18.239 --> 0:40:21.640 like dental checkups, optical checkups, getting new glasses, that sort 0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:21.920 of thing. 0:40:22.840 --> 0:40:25.920 I guess that's so true, because you know, once you've paid, 0:40:25.960 --> 0:40:28.440 let's say you paid last July or August, when you 0:40:28.480 --> 0:40:30.239 got around to it, I mean, it's a long time ago, 0:40:30.239 --> 0:40:32.879 a lot of water under the bridge. You forget that 0:40:32.960 --> 0:40:37.319 you've put that investment down and that the renewal is 0:40:37.360 --> 0:40:38.200 about to expire. 0:40:38.239 --> 0:40:40.680 You just forget over the nine, ten, eleven, twelve months, 0:40:40.719 --> 0:40:41.040 don't you. 0:40:41.680 --> 0:40:43.239 Well you can, and there's a lot going on in 0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:46.200 people's lives. There's lots of things you're thinking about other 0:40:46.239 --> 0:40:48.920 than your health insurance, and unfortunately, we often take our 0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:52.239 health for granted until something goes wrong. But extras is 0:40:52.280 --> 0:40:55.319 really good because it's a way to often identify health 0:40:55.320 --> 0:40:58.000 issues really early or prevent them coming on in the 0:40:58.000 --> 0:41:01.239 first place. So you get a dental check up, you 0:41:01.320 --> 0:41:04.359 might find that having a teeth clean is a good 0:41:04.400 --> 0:41:07.799 way to prevent getting a filling down the track. Or 0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:10.719 you might have the dental checkup and they might identify 0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:14.399 you've got a very early stage tooth decay and they 0:41:14.400 --> 0:41:17.200 can address that really simply and quickly, whereas if you 0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:20.919 let things linger, it can often have serious health consequences 0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:21.520 down the track. 0:41:21.880 --> 0:41:23.399 So this isn't just about using your money. 0:41:23.440 --> 0:41:25.280 I guess the point you're making is this is actually 0:41:25.360 --> 0:41:28.000 a pretty decent investment because it could be preventative health 0:41:28.200 --> 0:41:29.240 in the truest sense. 0:41:29.080 --> 0:41:29.439 Of the word. 0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:31.880 You go, you've got the financial incentive to go to, 0:41:31.920 --> 0:41:34.440 say the dentist, they open up your mouth and they 0:41:34.480 --> 0:41:35.800 do what they were going to do, a clean or 0:41:35.840 --> 0:41:38.920 whatever's covered, and they oh, hang on, you're going to 0:41:39.000 --> 0:41:40.759 have to get this scene too, because if you don't. 0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:42.160 There's big problems down the track. 0:41:42.960 --> 0:41:45.880 Absolutely, and what's more important than your health. It's hard 0:41:45.920 --> 0:41:48.319 to do things if you don't have good health, and 0:41:48.400 --> 0:41:52.319 this is a good way to maintain your really good 0:41:52.320 --> 0:41:56.120 health and stay in good physical condition. Even with some 0:41:56.160 --> 0:41:59.239 of the optical care, like getting your eyes checked, you 0:41:59.280 --> 0:42:03.399 can sometimes identify other health issues like cardiac issues through 0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:06.040 an eye checkup, So you'd be surprised at what they 0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:07.560 can find out with these checks. 0:42:08.080 --> 0:42:10.759 Do we have a sense, Matt just the sum the 0:42:10.840 --> 0:42:14.680 quantum of money that is spent when the policy is 0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:17.920 taken out but is never realized in the form of 0:42:17.960 --> 0:42:20.839 a service having been delivered. It would be in the 0:42:20.880 --> 0:42:23.560 tens of millions across Australia easily, wouldn't it. 0:42:23.840 --> 0:42:27.640 Well look easily. And health insurers actually want people to 0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:31.440 use their cover, They want them to use their extras 0:42:32.040 --> 0:42:34.440 because you know, the health insurer wants you to be 0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:37.200 in good physical shape. They don't want you to be 0:42:37.480 --> 0:42:41.680 needing a hospital admission or really serious dental or optical 0:42:41.719 --> 0:42:42.520 work down the track. 0:42:42.600 --> 0:42:45.319 So this is a different to the traditional the traditional 0:42:45.360 --> 0:42:51.160 insurance mindset which is no claim bonus. They're not necessarily 0:42:51.160 --> 0:42:53.000 into the no claim ideologies that. 0:42:52.960 --> 0:42:54.400 Would you say that's right. 0:42:54.440 --> 0:42:56.879 Well, look, we just want to make sure people are fit, 0:42:57.120 --> 0:43:00.480 healthy or in good shape. We don't want you to 0:43:00.520 --> 0:43:03.760 have to go through the inconvenience of major dental work 0:43:04.040 --> 0:43:07.080 or having to go in for a procedure that you 0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:11.520 can avoid. If that can be avoided, that's great for you, 0:43:11.560 --> 0:43:13.399 and it's great for the Health Fund. Then it'll save 0:43:13.440 --> 0:43:16.040 everybody money. It'll save your money through a lower premiums. 0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:19.120 It'll save you all that inconvenience with what comes with 0:43:19.520 --> 0:43:22.960 more serious you know work, and you get to be 0:43:23.000 --> 0:43:24.320 in better physical shape. 0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:26.040 When for everybody, just. 0:43:25.960 --> 0:43:29.120 On that before we go back to this specific issue. 0:43:29.160 --> 0:43:32.759 I mean, are we proactively pricing premiums in Australia the 0:43:32.800 --> 0:43:35.920 way that we should. We've inundated with technology, there's apps, 0:43:35.920 --> 0:43:38.120 there's all sorts of ways that people could I think, 0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:41.719 rather ethically measure the way that they live their life, 0:43:41.719 --> 0:43:43.719 the way they look after themselves, the way they keep 0:43:43.760 --> 0:43:46.880 themselves fit, or don't I mean, should we have a 0:43:46.920 --> 0:43:51.000 more flexible premium system in place whereby those that do 0:43:51.120 --> 0:43:53.360 the hard yards, eat the right foods, go for the 0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:56.359 daily walk and the rest of it pay less than 0:43:56.400 --> 0:43:58.799 those that don't look. 0:43:58.800 --> 0:44:02.560 In Australia, we've got called community yes, so it doesn't 0:44:02.600 --> 0:44:06.440 matter how old you are, or what age, what sex 0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:09.200 you are, you live, you pay the same premium as 0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:12.880 everybody else. And it's worked really well for Australia. So 0:44:13.040 --> 0:44:16.080 you know, over half the Australian population have private health 0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:20.200 insurance and Australia gets the best health outcomes in the world. 0:44:20.200 --> 0:44:23.800 We've got best health system on the planet and private 0:44:23.800 --> 0:44:25.879 health is a key part of achieving that. So we've 0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:28.560 actually got a really really good system. The last thing 0:44:28.600 --> 0:44:31.080 you would want is for someone who's paid private health 0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:33.880 insurance all their life to get older and then be 0:44:33.960 --> 0:44:35.960 priced out of it because of their age. That would 0:44:36.000 --> 0:44:36.800 be really unfair. 0:44:37.160 --> 0:44:38.719 The problem is, though a lot of younger people are 0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:41.560 priced out of it, and without them going in, the 0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:44.160 older ones aren't being cross subsidized, and so that the 0:44:44.239 --> 0:44:45.400 system is understrained. 0:44:45.480 --> 0:44:48.319 Right well, we are seeing more younger people take out 0:44:48.320 --> 0:44:51.480 private health insurance now and the pool of people with 0:44:51.520 --> 0:44:54.359 health insurance is growing, so that's a good thing. And 0:44:55.000 --> 0:44:56.960 you might be paying a little bit more when you're 0:44:57.000 --> 0:44:59.520 younger than you would otherwise, but as you get older 0:45:00.280 --> 0:45:03.279 you'll reap the benefits as well. So health insurance is 0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:06.000 there for your whole life, and a lot of young 0:45:06.040 --> 0:45:10.680 people can suffer really serious health issues. You know, you 0:45:10.680 --> 0:45:14.479 can do a knee or a hip playing sports. Young 0:45:14.520 --> 0:45:17.320 people even suffer cardiac issues as well. So health is 0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:20.480 one of those things that's really unpredictable, and you really 0:45:20.520 --> 0:45:22.960 want to have private health insurance, especially right now when 0:45:22.960 --> 0:45:25.440 the waits in the public system are just so long. 0:45:25.840 --> 0:45:29.240 I mean, you can be waiting years for elective surgery 0:45:29.320 --> 0:45:32.640 in the public hospital system, whereas with private health, you're 0:45:32.680 --> 0:45:35.160 straight in, you get your doctor of choice, you'll get 0:45:35.280 --> 0:45:38.360 really really good care, and because you're using a private 0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:41.640 bed in a private hospital, you're actually freeing up a 0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:44.520 public bed for someone who really really needs it. So 0:45:44.800 --> 0:45:46.040 it's a great system we've got. 0:45:46.440 --> 0:45:48.959 Look, you're talking to the converted, But I bounce around 0:45:49.000 --> 0:45:52.680 these devil advocate questions because I just wonder whether sort 0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:55.319 of a more dynamic pricing model. And I don't mean 0:45:55.360 --> 0:45:57.680 those with pre existing conditions should pay more. I think 0:45:57.680 --> 0:45:59.759 that's the case of the UK. I think that I 0:46:00.000 --> 0:46:02.839 don't think we should go down that path. But if 0:46:02.880 --> 0:46:06.799 you have just some basic metrics, where if someone has 0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:10.440 a gym membership and utilizes it. And I mean how 0:46:10.520 --> 0:46:13.120 you monitor the bona fides of the claims. I guess 0:46:13.120 --> 0:46:16.640 that's where it gets complicated. But technology is advancing all 0:46:16.680 --> 0:46:19.360 the time, and you know, if someone's I guess the 0:46:19.360 --> 0:46:21.760 point is, yes, you've got someone who's eating fourteen burgers 0:46:21.760 --> 0:46:25.319 a week as opposed to someone's having a largely vegetarian 0:46:25.360 --> 0:46:27.640 diet with seafood and a little bit of steak occasionally. 0:46:27.719 --> 0:46:30.080 And one just sits on the lounge and watch the football. 0:46:30.080 --> 0:46:32.399 The other goes to the gym, and you know, under 0:46:32.440 --> 0:46:35.759 the scheme, they both pay the same for the same cover. 0:46:36.400 --> 0:46:39.160 And I wonder if that's democratic or not. 0:46:39.239 --> 0:46:42.719 I don't know, it's it's certainly worth discussing and looking at. 0:46:43.160 --> 0:46:46.120 I guess from the health insurance funds perspective, they're keen 0:46:46.200 --> 0:46:49.840 to work with their members on getting them access to dietitians, 0:46:50.640 --> 0:46:52.920 you know, getting them access to physio. You can even 0:46:52.960 --> 0:46:56.160 get remedial massage with your private health insurance extras. So 0:46:56.600 --> 0:46:59.719 it's all about helping people and encouraging people to live 0:46:59.760 --> 0:47:03.279 health The act is fulfilling lives. It's being part of 0:47:03.320 --> 0:47:06.520 that journey. And whereas you know, a medical specialist is 0:47:06.560 --> 0:47:09.760 there for a particular procedure or a particular surgical operation. 0:47:10.200 --> 0:47:13.160 The health insurer is there for someone's entire life, so 0:47:13.560 --> 0:47:17.840 they'll be there through thick and thin, basically from cradle 0:47:17.880 --> 0:47:19.759 to grave, helping take care of you. 0:47:20.160 --> 0:47:23.399 Okay, just back to where we were as far as 0:47:23.480 --> 0:47:28.160 the extras expiring, as it were, It depends on which 0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:30.080 business you're with and which policy. Some are the end 0:47:30.080 --> 0:47:31.960 of the financial use, some of the end of the calendar. 0:47:32.080 --> 0:47:34.560 It depends on who you're with, Isn't it correct? 0:47:34.600 --> 0:47:37.480 And we recommend you know you follow three simple steps. 0:47:37.520 --> 0:47:39.919 So firstly, check your policy at this time of the year. 0:47:40.320 --> 0:47:43.080 Understand what your limits are and what the remaining balance 0:47:43.160 --> 0:47:46.560 is for each of your extra services that's usually available 0:47:46.600 --> 0:47:50.560 from your health fund's website or app Second one is 0:47:50.719 --> 0:47:54.359 book appointments. If you've got unused benefits, book those appointments now. 0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:58.360 This is an ideal time to schedule, even if you 0:47:58.400 --> 0:48:01.920 know your benefits expire it the end of the calendar 0:48:02.000 --> 0:48:03.799 year on thirty first of December. Now is a good 0:48:03.800 --> 0:48:06.120 time to plan out when you're going to go see 0:48:05.800 --> 0:48:09.279 the dentists or the optometrists, or get your physio and 0:48:09.320 --> 0:48:12.399 so forth, and Thirdly, contact the Health Fund if you're 0:48:12.440 --> 0:48:15.680 unsure about your entitlements or what services you're eligible for, 0:48:15.800 --> 0:48:17.680 just give the health fund a call, have a chat, 0:48:18.200 --> 0:48:21.240 get some advice from them. With the not for profit 0:48:21.480 --> 0:48:24.879 member own health funds, they only exist to serve you, 0:48:24.960 --> 0:48:28.320 the consumer. They don't have shareholders, they don't have overseas investors. 0:48:28.719 --> 0:48:30.960 They're run and owned by the members. So they're going 0:48:30.960 --> 0:48:33.600 to give you really really good advice and they're going 0:48:33.640 --> 0:48:34.760 to be really really helpful. 0:48:35.239 --> 0:48:37.719 Yeah, well I'm with one of them, and yeah, you've 0:48:37.719 --> 0:48:40.200 got to choose you You've got to choose your provider carefully. 0:48:40.200 --> 0:48:41.920 There's no doubt about that. Good to speak. 0:48:41.960 --> 0:48:43.600 I think a bit of timely advice there, Matt, I 0:48:43.640 --> 0:48:47.080 appreciate your time. Thanks a lot, Matt Coachi, the ceeover 0:48:47.120 --> 0:48:50.040 the Members Health Fund Alliance Members Health by the way, 0:48:50.040 --> 0:48:52.160 it's the peak industry body from the lines of twenty 0:48:52.160 --> 0:48:55.160 four health funds. They're a not for profitable part of 0:48:55.200 --> 0:48:58.080 a member owned group. Okay, so they're a little different 0:48:58.080 --> 0:49:01.160 to some of those big corporate funds. But some interesting 0:49:01.160 --> 0:49:03.480 advice there. But look, I just wonder over to you one, three, one, eight, 0:49:03.520 --> 0:49:05.280 seven and three. If you've got private health of whatever 0:49:05.320 --> 0:49:07.759 extraction with whoever. Are you one of those ones that 0:49:08.280 --> 0:49:10.799 have some level of extras because when you've taken it 0:49:10.800 --> 0:49:13.120 out and you've got sort of in the back of 0:49:13.080 --> 0:49:16.600 the mind maybe I need the dental, so you add 0:49:16.600 --> 0:49:19.719 it in, but then you never use it, you know. 0:49:19.760 --> 0:49:21.000 I mean a lot of us are like that with 0:49:21.040 --> 0:49:24.239 a lot of things. We buy a. 0:49:24.239 --> 0:49:28.240 Slightly inflated package of whatever it is, but never really 0:49:28.360 --> 0:49:31.640 utilize the full scope of it. I mean, essentially we're 0:49:31.920 --> 0:49:35.680 wasting money. As our previous correspondence said on the text line, 0:49:35.719 --> 0:49:37.560 you'd be better off. I mean, I'm not heady to 0:49:37.560 --> 0:49:40.319 get financial advice, but logic demands you'd be better off 0:49:40.480 --> 0:49:43.840 instead putting that money into a savings account and just 0:49:43.880 --> 0:49:46.520 being disciplined and watch you add interest with time. 0:49:47.120 --> 0:49:50.040 But we don't. That's I guess human nature. 0:49:50.040 --> 0:49:53.200 But are you one of those ones that religiously uses 0:49:53.280 --> 0:49:56.680 the extras that are available to you that you've paid 0:49:56.800 --> 0:50:01.279 for every year? I think a lot of people with 0:50:01.360 --> 0:50:03.680 the glasses do that. Go and get the new pairs 0:50:04.040 --> 0:50:07.759 reading glasses or whatever prescription glasses you for no other reason, 0:50:07.760 --> 0:50:10.080 to keep up with the trend or whatever. But beyond that, 0:50:10.680 --> 0:50:12.320 I don't know. I mean, I think a few people 0:50:12.360 --> 0:50:15.640 pay and then don't fully use it, and that's a waste. 0:50:15.719 --> 0:50:18.440 It's twenty one minutes past one. Don't forget driver trend 0:50:18.480 --> 0:50:20.640 coming up in about five or so minutes one three, one, 0:50:20.680 --> 0:50:21.239 eight seven three. 0:50:21.320 --> 0:50:23.160 Let's get to all of these calls about health insurance 0:50:23.239 --> 0:50:23.760 terry today. 0:50:25.520 --> 0:50:26.839 Gooday, here you going, good mate. 0:50:26.840 --> 0:50:28.400 Thanks. 0:50:28.880 --> 0:50:32.640 I'm just calling about the private health of been in 0:50:32.640 --> 0:50:35.080 private health for a number of years as my wife has. 0:50:35.480 --> 0:50:38.839 Now we've had some surgeries, like we're both in our sixties, 0:50:39.560 --> 0:50:42.719 we've had knee surgeries and she said, my wife's had 0:50:42.800 --> 0:50:49.160 that surgery, et cetera. But you are out of pocket 0:50:50.280 --> 0:50:53.799 quite often by a fair amount. Yes, when I had 0:50:53.840 --> 0:50:55.879 my knee surgery done, it was like five thousand dollars 0:50:55.920 --> 0:51:00.040 out of pocket because the schedule fee apparently is so 0:51:00.160 --> 0:51:07.360 low that they're surgeons for what they do. They the 0:51:07.520 --> 0:51:12.560 schedule priest too low basically, so they charge extra, which 0:51:12.600 --> 0:51:15.760 you have to pay obviously. 0:51:16.560 --> 0:51:19.239 Yeah, that that that, that is true, mind you. In 0:51:19.280 --> 0:51:22.280 the public health system, we've got gaps as well between 0:51:22.320 --> 0:51:24.319 what Medicare is willing to cover even when you see 0:51:24.320 --> 0:51:26.920 the GP and what the doctor demands in many cases don't. 0:51:26.760 --> 0:51:33.319 We Well, we are, I guess, and that's far more 0:51:33.360 --> 0:51:35.560 beneficial to have private health because you can get in 0:51:35.800 --> 0:51:39.879 fairly quickly as post of public hospital. But you pay 0:51:39.920 --> 0:51:43.200 a lot of money. But you're still going to have 0:51:43.360 --> 0:51:47.000 some cash laying around, which you don't always have yes 0:51:47.400 --> 0:51:50.680 to get to surgery done anyway, because you've got to 0:51:50.680 --> 0:51:51.560 pay the other pocket. 0:51:51.640 --> 0:51:53.560 That's very true. That's that's that's so true. That's a 0:51:53.680 --> 0:51:55.200 very very good point. A number of people on the 0:51:55.200 --> 0:51:57.560 text have made the same point. It's it's not as 0:51:57.600 --> 0:51:59.520 if you've paid up and then it's always all covered 0:51:59.560 --> 0:52:03.879 forever without any questions. Sometimes there's a gap. And that's 0:52:03.920 --> 0:52:06.879 quite right, Terry. I appreciate your call. I'm not here 0:52:06.920 --> 0:52:09.600 to defend the private health industry, but I would argue 0:52:09.640 --> 0:52:13.400 as someone who has cover that it's I think the 0:52:13.480 --> 0:52:16.279 key term is the insurance term. You know, you take 0:52:16.320 --> 0:52:19.880 out home and contents insurance because a lot of people say, well, is. 0:52:19.880 --> 0:52:21.920 It worth the money? Why would I do it? I'm healthy? 0:52:22.080 --> 0:52:23.719 Okay, Well yeah, but you do the same with your 0:52:23.719 --> 0:52:25.760 home and contents don't you've got home and contents insurance? 0:52:25.960 --> 0:52:27.640 You don't assume that at some point you're going to 0:52:27.719 --> 0:52:29.399 use it because the house will burn down, But if 0:52:29.480 --> 0:52:34.680 it should, you are going to be significantly covered. It 0:52:34.719 --> 0:52:36.640 may not be complete. You might still have to dip 0:52:36.640 --> 0:52:38.360 into your bank account, but you won't have to be 0:52:38.400 --> 0:52:41.120 dipping into the extent of paying one point something million 0:52:41.200 --> 0:52:44.520 to rebuild and refurnish. In the whole show, you would 0:52:44.520 --> 0:52:49.240 be largely covered at worst. And that's what insurance is about. 0:52:49.280 --> 0:52:52.160 Now We've got some very significant correct questions to be 0:52:52.160 --> 0:52:54.640 asked about the veracity of the insurance industry and how 0:52:54.680 --> 0:52:56.799 fair it is and premiums and gaps. I mean, that's 0:52:56.840 --> 0:53:01.480 all very very much in need of discussion. They're not angels, 0:53:01.920 --> 0:53:04.120 but I think, you know, for peace of mind if 0:53:04.120 --> 0:53:06.440 nothing else, even if it's not complete peace of mind, 0:53:06.520 --> 0:53:07.480 I'm going to stick with it. 0:53:07.760 --> 0:53:09.480 But Mark makes a very valid point on the text. 0:53:09.520 --> 0:53:12.680 He says, without the additional Medicare levy situation, private health 0:53:12.680 --> 0:53:13.320 would collapse. 0:53:13.640 --> 0:53:14.600 And I suspect he's right. 0:53:15.000 --> 0:53:17.120 There'd be a lot of people in it just to 0:53:17.160 --> 0:53:21.359 avoid the additional Medicare tax. But yeah, that was always 0:53:21.400 --> 0:53:23.080 going to be the risk when we had Medibank which 0:53:23.080 --> 0:53:27.120 became Medicare, that if you completely socialized the healthcare system, 0:53:27.160 --> 0:53:28.799 and it was quite unquite free. Then people said, well, 0:53:28.840 --> 0:53:30.800 why would I pay for it? Unless I want a 0:53:30.920 --> 0:53:34.279 choice of my surgeon, why would I pay? So you 0:53:34.360 --> 0:53:36.480 had to have that backstop in the tax system to 0:53:36.480 --> 0:53:38.759 make sure that there wasn't a complete exodus, because there 0:53:38.760 --> 0:53:39.319 would have been. 0:53:39.719 --> 0:53:43.680 Terry again, thank you, Judy. Hello, Yes, Hi, Michael. 0:53:43.800 --> 0:53:43.880 Hi. 0:53:45.120 --> 0:53:49.120 I'm in private health Booper and I pay ninety nine 0:53:49.200 --> 0:53:53.880 dollars fifty nine a fortnite yep. And I'm on a pension, 0:53:54.080 --> 0:53:56.759 sole on a pension. I've been done in by my 0:53:56.880 --> 0:54:00.600 insurance company and no one wants to help me. And 0:54:00.719 --> 0:54:03.319 I'm just up here without it, without a paddle, and 0:54:03.360 --> 0:54:05.719 I cannot cope with it all. And if it goes 0:54:05.800 --> 0:54:09.560 up anymore, I don't know I'm making in the June. 0:54:10.320 --> 0:54:13.640 It's not fair we have these battles. I don't know. 0:54:14.360 --> 0:54:17.800 I've been in this fund since I left school. 0:54:18.560 --> 0:54:19.880 They've been a loyal customer. 0:54:21.200 --> 0:54:24.800 Yeah, and why you know why people say, oh, because 0:54:24.840 --> 0:54:27.239 you're getting older, you should be paying more. No, I 0:54:27.280 --> 0:54:29.960 have less. I don't go to work, I can't go 0:54:30.040 --> 0:54:34.000 to work, and I have needs. But I haven't been 0:54:34.000 --> 0:54:36.000 a hospital in Stutout for the nine. 0:54:36.760 --> 0:54:38.200 Well, I don't think you should. 0:54:38.200 --> 0:54:40.000 I don't think you would or should be paying more 0:54:40.040 --> 0:54:43.320 just because you're getting older. I'd imagine that the premiums 0:54:43.360 --> 0:54:45.440 are going up across the board and you'll be captured 0:54:45.440 --> 0:54:47.520 by that. But if they said to you that because 0:54:47.520 --> 0:54:49.400 you're over a certain age, they're going to slug you 0:54:49.400 --> 0:54:53.319 an extra percentage or something, No, no, no, I. 0:54:53.239 --> 0:54:54.040 Haven't heard that. 0:54:54.440 --> 0:54:59.200 Good but Booper did have a pop up in MacArthur Square, 0:54:59.560 --> 0:55:05.000 but they've close that. Now are you there, I'm listening, Yeah, yeah, 0:55:05.080 --> 0:55:06.400 on the phone just went playing. 0:55:06.840 --> 0:55:07.040 No. 0:55:07.160 --> 0:55:10.400 Okay. So basically, it's becoming too expensive to renew. 0:55:10.440 --> 0:55:14.160 That's what you're saying, Judy, it's becoming too expensive to 0:55:14.280 --> 0:55:18.200 live as a pensioner. The most we've had the increase 0:55:18.280 --> 0:55:20.880 in the last four and a half years, it's fifty 0:55:20.960 --> 0:55:24.880 five dollars ninety. All insurances have gone up, Eggs have 0:55:24.920 --> 0:55:28.239 gone up, Bread's gone up, all your groceries have gone up, 0:55:28.320 --> 0:55:32.520 your rates, everything's gone up. Engines have only gone up. 0:55:32.920 --> 0:55:35.880 The last increase we have was four dollars twenty seven 0:55:36.640 --> 0:55:41.839 in twenty twenty five. That's this year, going from back then. 0:55:42.000 --> 0:55:45.240 It's just not fair. Nobody's looking at it, nobody gives 0:55:45.280 --> 0:55:48.239 a hoot and I can't make ends meet and it 0:55:48.280 --> 0:55:48.920 isn't fair. 0:55:49.040 --> 0:55:52.279 No, look, I agree, I understand what you're saying. I've 0:55:52.280 --> 0:55:54.480 had a number of people in this very similar position, 0:55:54.760 --> 0:55:56.720 certainly when there's all this talk about the heck stets 0:55:56.760 --> 0:55:58.520 being wiped and this was going up at the minimum 0:55:58.520 --> 0:56:01.719 wage recently got increased by the pricing tribunal, and a 0:56:01.800 --> 0:56:03.640 number of people who will hang on as a pensioner, 0:56:03.719 --> 0:56:05.880 we went up about four dollars twenty five a fortnite 0:56:05.960 --> 0:56:06.279 or something. 0:56:06.320 --> 0:56:09.239 What about us? Fair enough point? Tell you what? 0:56:09.320 --> 0:56:11.920 Hang on there, Talk to the team off here and 0:56:11.960 --> 0:56:13.239 we might be able to put in a call with 0:56:13.239 --> 0:56:15.200 your health insurance. Just see if there's a better deal 0:56:15.239 --> 0:56:17.400 that you can get with them, or if there's something 0:56:17.440 --> 0:56:20.720 there that maybe you haven't seen that would assist, because 0:56:20.719 --> 0:56:22.840 you know, we don't want listeners who have been loyal 0:56:22.840 --> 0:56:26.200 with their health insurer for decades reaching a point where 0:56:26.200 --> 0:56:28.560 they just simply can't continue at a time of their 0:56:28.560 --> 0:56:30.719 life when chances are they are going to actually have 0:56:30.800 --> 0:56:34.319 to start using and tapping the insurance that they've paid 0:56:34.360 --> 0:56:36.520 into for the better part of decades. Hang on there, 0:56:36.560 --> 0:56:39.560 Judy we'll grab your details. We'll speak off here. David, 0:56:39.560 --> 0:56:40.240 Good afternoon. 0:56:41.760 --> 0:56:46.319 Hi Michael, Yes, mate, I'm seventy eight. I've been in 0:56:46.360 --> 0:56:50.080 the HCF since I was seventeen. I've had four children. 0:56:50.719 --> 0:56:55.240 I've always had the excess of extra benefits. Well sometimes 0:56:55.280 --> 0:56:59.040 have used them in a year or two, three years. 0:57:00.280 --> 0:57:05.760 Wonder how the health funds make their living out of it. Sure, 0:57:05.760 --> 0:57:08.080 it's nearly five hundred dollars a month. It's gone up, 0:57:08.600 --> 0:57:11.319 and as the last lady said, it's hard. If I 0:57:11.360 --> 0:57:14.200 had to sacrifice something else, I would sacrifice something else 0:57:14.239 --> 0:57:17.120 for the sake of the health. I've got good health 0:57:17.160 --> 0:57:20.080 my wife and I and now together. But in terms 0:57:20.080 --> 0:57:22.840 of those extra benefits, having your teeth done, your eyes checked, 0:57:22.840 --> 0:57:25.160 all those things you talked about, you try and use 0:57:25.160 --> 0:57:27.720 as much of those as you can. And the other 0:57:27.800 --> 0:57:30.280 thing I just want to mention is that they don't 0:57:30.320 --> 0:57:33.040 always tell you this. With it going up last year, 0:57:33.080 --> 0:57:36.320 I was becoming more concerned. I spoke to the HCF 0:57:36.320 --> 0:57:39.440 about they have a thing that when you go into hospital, 0:57:39.520 --> 0:57:41.600 you pay the first two hundred and fifty dollars as 0:57:41.600 --> 0:57:45.560 a private patient, you and your partner. And what I did. 0:57:45.640 --> 0:57:49.080 I talked about I changed my excess to make it 0:57:49.120 --> 0:57:51.440 five hundred dollars, So with neither of us going to 0:57:51.560 --> 0:57:55.480 hospital during the twelve months, our premium dropped down nearly 0:57:55.520 --> 0:58:00.320 fifty dollars a month. So people that aren't aware, it's 0:58:00.360 --> 0:58:04.280 like your insurance, yep. You appreciate excess and it brings 0:58:04.280 --> 0:58:06.800 your premium down. So the private funds don't tell you 0:58:06.880 --> 0:58:09.400 much about it. So what some of them need to do, is, 0:58:09.440 --> 0:58:12.200 particularly the aces, I talk to them about it. I 0:58:12.360 --> 0:58:15.960 change the excess from two hundred and fifty to five hundred. 0:58:16.720 --> 0:58:18.920 So if I go into hospital this year, sure it's 0:58:18.960 --> 0:58:21.040 going to cost me more. Do I lose the benefit 0:58:21.080 --> 0:58:24.480 of fifty dollars slightly? Twelve five to sixty six hundred dollars? 0:58:24.720 --> 0:58:27.520 But all I'm saying is for those that are sometimes struggling, 0:58:27.560 --> 0:58:29.760 if you don't look like going to hospital, have a 0:58:29.760 --> 0:58:32.080 look at your excess. You might be able to say 0:58:32.400 --> 0:58:33.480 up to fifty dollars a month. 0:58:33.520 --> 0:58:35.240 I think that's very good advice, yep, that there are 0:58:35.280 --> 0:58:38.480 ways to work the finances around to get it more 0:58:38.520 --> 0:58:40.360 in your benefit. But you've got you've got to make 0:58:40.360 --> 0:58:42.200 the call, you've got to instigate it. They're not going 0:58:42.240 --> 0:58:43.680 to come to you and say, hey, we can save 0:58:43.720 --> 0:58:45.520 you fifty but yeah, you've got to go and do it. 0:58:46.360 --> 0:58:47.880 But what you've done is I think what a lot 0:58:47.880 --> 0:58:49.640 of people have done in recent years. David, thank you 0:58:49.640 --> 0:58:55.560 for the call. All right, off to the newsroom. We 0:58:55.600 --> 0:58:57.240 go where and Margaret afternoon. 0:58:56.840 --> 0:58:59.600 Good afternoon, Michael. One man's been arrested over a fatal 0:58:59.600 --> 0:59:03.000 shitting of a Melbourne man in Bali as local police 0:59:03.120 --> 0:59:05.840 ramp up patrols. It's believed the body of a woman 0:59:05.920 --> 0:59:08.280 found at Warrington have been there for several days. Police 0:59:08.320 --> 0:59:11.280 have expanded their investigation to a second crime scene. A 0:59:11.400 --> 0:59:14.240 Queensland man is to face court accused of torturing a 0:59:14.280 --> 0:59:18.200 seven week old baby who suffered extensive injuries, and Tarongas 0:59:18.200 --> 0:59:21.160 who was reporting an increase in sea turtles needing treatment 0:59:21.200 --> 0:59:24.200 in its wildlife hospital, with twenty four handed in over 0:59:24.240 --> 0:59:26.880 eight months. In Sport, Adam Scott's stream of winning a 0:59:26.920 --> 0:59:30.600 second major has disappeared in wet and miserable conditions At 0:59:30.600 --> 0:59:33.440 the US Open in Pittsburgh. The Aussie dropped nine shots 0:59:33.480 --> 0:59:36.320 on the final day to finish at six over American 0:59:36.400 --> 0:59:39.240 JJ Spoorne claimed the victory and there'll be more news 0:59:39.240 --> 0:59:41.919 at two o'clock on afternoons. 0:59:42.200 --> 0:59:46.160 Oh weather update, We'll be here to help in unexpected weather. 0:59:46.560 --> 0:59:48.960 NRI Main Insurance a help company. 0:59:49.160 --> 0:59:52.240 Twenty six to two sunny today and seventeen in the city. 0:59:52.240 --> 0:59:54.880 It is a beautiful day outside eighteen for Penrith, sixteen 0:59:54.960 --> 0:59:57.440 the top of Terry Hills, seventeen for Paramata, Campbelltown and 0:59:57.440 --> 1:00:00.560 Bondi Today sunny in eighteen tomorrow and then well something 1:00:00.600 --> 1:00:04.480 a bit different, sunny, but sixteen on Wednesday Canberra morning frost. 1:00:04.480 --> 1:00:07.400 That's gone now it's cloudy top of ten just eleven 1:00:07.440 --> 1:00:09.480 at Tugrinong, a bit more sun there in the south, 1:00:10.080 --> 1:00:13.560 some morning frost tomorrow in the Capital partner cloudy twelve 1:00:13.600 --> 1:00:15.280 degrees the top. They say there is the chance of 1:00:15.280 --> 1:00:17.680 a shower maybe one mill if it comes. And then 1:00:17.720 --> 1:00:20.000 on Wednesday all of that should have blown off a 1:00:20.000 --> 1:00:22.480 bit minus two at the start. Thirteen at the Apex 1:00:22.600 --> 1:00:27.440 morning frost, mostly sunny in Canberra, lifthgo today twelve the 1:00:27.440 --> 1:00:29.800 top morning frost and then that's burnt off with the 1:00:29.800 --> 1:00:32.840 beautiful sunny day. Eleven at Orange Mudgie, fifteen, thirteen at 1:00:32.840 --> 1:00:36.640 Bathistkatuba twelve seventeen Springwood tomorrow, partner cloudy in eleven for 1:00:36.680 --> 1:00:39.120 our listeners through two o te Lithgow and then morning 1:00:39.160 --> 1:00:42.320 frost and mostly sunny Wednesday expected at this stage top 1:00:42.360 --> 1:00:44.640 of twelve degrees. Will take a break when we come back. 1:00:44.680 --> 1:00:48.400 Get those engines revving, even if they're hybrids or evs, because. 1:00:48.040 --> 1:00:50.200 We have the one and only Trent Nikolch in the studio. 1:00:50.240 --> 1:00:51.520 Just before we get to trend, a couple of bits 1:00:51.520 --> 1:00:54.840 of breaking news coming through in America. The Minnesota shooting 1:00:55.080 --> 1:00:58.840 suspect I see has been detained. The individual that the 1:00:59.440 --> 1:01:02.240 American AA agencies were looking for has been detained. We 1:01:02.280 --> 1:01:06.160 await a press conference in Minneapolis in Minnesota about all 1:01:06.200 --> 1:01:08.320 of that. The Daily Telegraph reporting, by the way, that 1:01:08.560 --> 1:01:12.240 the Australian Tennis Ash Barty has just welcomed her second 1:01:12.360 --> 1:01:15.040 child to the world, announcing the birth of a baby 1:01:15.080 --> 1:01:18.880 girl called Jordan on her Instagram this afternoon. So that's 1:01:18.920 --> 1:01:21.320 just coming through. Welcome to the world, Jordan, it said, 1:01:21.960 --> 1:01:24.600 and she was wearing a one see that said embrace 1:01:24.640 --> 1:01:26.960 you're weird up and down and so there you go. 1:01:27.920 --> 1:01:31.200 But really gorgeous looking kid. And Ashparti, of course, the 1:01:31.240 --> 1:01:35.760 great Australian so congratulations to Ash and her and her husband. 1:01:36.000 --> 1:01:41.800 Twenty minutes to two. 1:01:40.000 --> 1:01:41.919 Now one afternoons drive. 1:01:43.240 --> 1:01:44.480 Well, he's back in the studio. 1:01:44.720 --> 1:01:51.040 Back from Detroit, USA via the military parade yesterday, the 1:01:51.080 --> 1:01:54.000 red Eye flight in had to stay there. Thought you 1:01:54.000 --> 1:01:56.160 were one of those guys in the seventeen sort of 1:01:56.360 --> 1:01:59.520 seventeen sixty outfit, weren't you? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Civil War? 1:02:00.080 --> 1:02:03.200 You playing Paul Revere with the bell That works too, 1:02:03.360 --> 1:02:06.919 doesn't it striking? 1:02:06.000 --> 1:02:10.520 They're coming as well, Hello mate. So yeah, it's strange, 1:02:10.560 --> 1:02:14.960 isn't it. The United States is it's such a strange 1:02:14.960 --> 1:02:18.440 place to visit because you come back and then you 1:02:18.480 --> 1:02:21.880 hear something like what's gone on in Minnesota? And I 1:02:21.880 --> 1:02:23.960 always say to people they find it hard to believe 1:02:24.000 --> 1:02:26.840 because as Australians were very different to this. But when 1:02:26.880 --> 1:02:28.920 you're in the United States, I was in Detroit, right, 1:02:29.480 --> 1:02:33.720 you would have no idea, no idea that Los Angeles 1:02:33.760 --> 1:02:37.720 even exists, let alone what's going on there when you're 1:02:37.720 --> 1:02:41.080 in Detroit, and vice versa. Every Australian since I came 1:02:41.120 --> 1:02:43.720 back said what was the feeling about the riots in 1:02:43.840 --> 1:02:46.280 LA No one even mentioned it in Detroit, like it 1:02:46.320 --> 1:02:47.080 wasn't happening. 1:02:47.200 --> 1:02:49.760 No, I mean we get as I was saying the 1:02:49.760 --> 1:02:52.560 other day, people before we get onto madrink, people have 1:02:52.600 --> 1:02:55.400 to understand that most of the Australian media that are 1:02:55.440 --> 1:02:58.440 based in America are based They've got somebody in New York, YA. 1:02:58.480 --> 1:03:00.680 They've got someone in Los Angele, good point. And that'd 1:03:00.720 --> 1:03:03.800 be like having someone based in, you know, from a 1:03:03.840 --> 1:03:08.120 political point of view, the Northern Beaches yep and Couyong 1:03:08.240 --> 1:03:10.920 or something exactly, and there's all the other stuff in between. 1:03:11.120 --> 1:03:12.880 They see the world very differently. 1:03:12.680 --> 1:03:16.000 Absolutely, and the middle of America is very different obviously. 1:03:16.160 --> 1:03:19.880 And what's what's really intriguing is take to take it 1:03:19.920 --> 1:03:23.560 back to a motoring perspective, is Detroit was the birthplace 1:03:23.600 --> 1:03:26.480 of the automobile, as everybody knows, and certainly the birthplace 1:03:26.680 --> 1:03:32.440 of mass production of motown right. And it is fighting 1:03:32.480 --> 1:03:35.400 a battle on multiple fronts because on one hand, you've 1:03:35.400 --> 1:03:39.400 got manufacturers saying, well, what the Trump government is doing 1:03:39.600 --> 1:03:42.400 in regards to tariff's is going to hurt us. And 1:03:42.440 --> 1:03:44.920 then on the other hand, they're fighting the same battle 1:03:44.960 --> 1:03:49.120 with manufacturers from countries like China that are building significantly 1:03:49.160 --> 1:03:53.720 more affordable vehicles in segments that American manufacturers have always dominated. 1:03:53.760 --> 1:03:59.120 So it's a real interesting microcosm. And certainly the politics 1:03:59.120 --> 1:04:01.760 of a place like Lasts Angelus or California is very 1:04:01.880 --> 1:04:05.880 very different from that of Michigan or Indiana or Ohio, you. 1:04:05.800 --> 1:04:07.640 Know, very very different. Yeah, different countries. 1:04:07.960 --> 1:04:08.080 Ok. 1:04:08.240 --> 1:04:09.240 One three one eight seven three. 1:04:09.240 --> 1:04:11.560 You've got a question about your motor vehicle, JELOPI or 1:04:11.600 --> 1:04:14.080 the one you want to buy. Trent knows them all, 1:04:14.360 --> 1:04:16.520 So take advantage of the knowledge's here with me. One three, 1:04:16.560 --> 1:04:18.040 one eight seven three. A lot of people, of course 1:04:18.080 --> 1:04:20.120 buying high laxes to it a high lux. They've made 1:04:20.160 --> 1:04:22.720 a fortune out of that. It is the curR of 1:04:22.800 --> 1:04:25.320 choice for the trazy's. But what are you telling me? 1:04:25.720 --> 1:04:27.280 You say it's going to need to adapt to these 1:04:27.320 --> 1:04:28.760 new rules around vehicle emissions. 1:04:28.840 --> 1:04:29.080 Yeah. 1:04:29.120 --> 1:04:32.320 So we've spoken about this before on your show, and 1:04:32.360 --> 1:04:35.360 your listeners would know that. On one hand, you've got 1:04:35.440 --> 1:04:38.920 governments saying we must be buying more electric vehicles. You know, 1:04:38.960 --> 1:04:41.320 we're going to incentivize, we're going to make it attractive. 1:04:41.400 --> 1:04:42.880 It's something that we need to do. And on the 1:04:42.880 --> 1:04:45.600 other hand, not just in Australia, and I've said this 1:04:45.680 --> 1:04:48.680 before to reassure listeners that they don't feel like they're 1:04:48.680 --> 1:04:52.360 alienated here in this country. But Australians are saying in 1:04:52.440 --> 1:04:54.680 large numbers, we're not ready for these vehicles yet. And 1:04:55.320 --> 1:04:58.400 it doesn't help a duel cab buyer if you're talking 1:04:58.400 --> 1:05:01.760 about a small electric suv or a small electric sedan. 1:05:01.880 --> 1:05:02.040 Right. 1:05:02.120 --> 1:05:06.000 So, in Australia, vehicles like high Lux and Range are 1:05:06.000 --> 1:05:11.200 incredibly popular and Australians like them. And it's just really 1:05:11.200 --> 1:05:15.360 interesting that by excuse me, by the end of twenty third. 1:05:15.200 --> 1:05:16.640 Got to hit the button before you. 1:05:17.080 --> 1:05:18.760 I did hit it after, Okay, So I just wanted 1:05:18.800 --> 1:05:20.520 everybody to know that I needed to clear my throat. 1:05:20.560 --> 1:05:21.480 So now we can move on. 1:05:22.040 --> 1:05:25.160 By the end of twenty thirty, I've never done radio before. 1:05:25.160 --> 1:05:27.080 It is the first time. That's good, isn't it. 1:05:27.440 --> 1:05:29.560 By the end of twenty thirty, the vast majority of 1:05:30.200 --> 1:05:33.640 Toyota vehicles will have some form of electrification, right, But 1:05:33.800 --> 1:05:38.560 they can't. I can't see a situation, Michael, where dual 1:05:38.640 --> 1:05:41.440 cabs and large four wheel drives can go full electric 1:05:41.800 --> 1:05:44.600 anytime soon. I know we've spoken about it. Toyota is 1:05:44.640 --> 1:05:48.840 aware of it. Toyota has to put electrification into its vehicle. 1:05:48.520 --> 1:05:51.720 Now, they still envisiting hydrogen future, Toyota, I. 1:05:51.720 --> 1:05:53.800 Think they're looking at hydrogen. I think they're looking at 1:05:53.800 --> 1:05:56.480 all manner of things. I think hydrogen is one of them. Obviously, 1:05:56.600 --> 1:05:59.880 hybrids and plug in hybrids, I still think, and we've 1:05:59.880 --> 1:06:02.200 spoken about this before as well, there's going to have 1:06:02.360 --> 1:06:06.560 to be some measure of fuel that we can deliver 1:06:06.640 --> 1:06:09.520 that's environmentally friendly fuel in order to keep all the 1:06:09.560 --> 1:06:11.920 old vehicles running, because we can't just put all the 1:06:11.920 --> 1:06:14.880 old vehicles into landfill. Even if we all started buying 1:06:14.880 --> 1:06:18.360 electric vehicles tomorrow, there's tens of millions of vehicles still 1:06:18.360 --> 1:06:20.520 on the road all around the world that run on 1:06:20.560 --> 1:06:25.680 fossil fuel. So if we can find a fuel that's 1:06:25.760 --> 1:06:28.640 environmentally friendly, synthetic, buy fuel, whatever you want to call it, 1:06:29.000 --> 1:06:30.840 that is probably part of the solution as well. 1:06:30.840 --> 1:06:32.360 And Toyota wou'd be looking at that as well. 1:06:32.440 --> 1:06:32.600 Well. 1:06:32.880 --> 1:06:35.400 Look fuels, like the English language, it's always evolving. 1:06:36.360 --> 1:06:38.480 We had diesel, then we had leaded petrol, then we 1:06:38.520 --> 1:06:41.600 had unleaded petrol, then we got to the ethanol ten 1:06:41.720 --> 1:06:46.760 percent componentory change constantly going on absolutely spot on. Ok Now, 1:06:46.800 --> 1:06:48.640 just before we take calls, what was this thing down 1:06:48.680 --> 1:06:51.320 in Melbourne on the Princess Freeway because you normally have 1:06:51.320 --> 1:06:53.240 a big pile up, the insurance gets involved. 1:06:53.360 --> 1:06:56.160 Yeah, this was a really interesting one because you'd remember 1:06:56.240 --> 1:06:59.040 a couple of months ago in Sydney on a really 1:06:59.160 --> 1:07:01.640 rainy night there were some issues on the Harbor Bridge 1:07:01.640 --> 1:07:02.400 with a whole bunch. 1:07:02.240 --> 1:07:03.440 Of vehicles that got damaged. 1:07:03.720 --> 1:07:06.560 It's just something that's happening a lot more So vehicles 1:07:06.560 --> 1:07:09.760 were damaged on the Princess Freeway in Melbourne, obviously not 1:07:09.800 --> 1:07:11.640 in Sydney where most of our listeners are, but a 1:07:11.680 --> 1:07:17.000 steel plate connector so one of those expansion joints basically came. 1:07:17.320 --> 1:07:21.120 It came away at dislodged, unsealed section of road, a 1:07:21.160 --> 1:07:23.560 truck flipped over and then there was a ten car pilop. 1:07:23.600 --> 1:07:25.160 So this was a lot more serious than the one 1:07:25.160 --> 1:07:28.840 in Sydney where we just had flat tires and damaged wheels. 1:07:29.400 --> 1:07:31.640 You know, it's still not nice at nine or ten 1:07:31.640 --> 1:07:34.320 o'clock at night in the rain, But I think this 1:07:34.440 --> 1:07:38.360 is all part of government's Local councils are going to 1:07:38.400 --> 1:07:40.840 have to start to have a really serious look at 1:07:40.880 --> 1:07:43.280 the state of our roads. And that's why I thought 1:07:43.280 --> 1:07:46.280 this was interesting because in Sydney, people listening to us 1:07:46.400 --> 1:07:48.360 all over Sydney now will be saying, well, I can 1:07:48.440 --> 1:07:52.200 probably give you ten roads that are absolutely awful. And 1:07:52.240 --> 1:07:54.920 if you blow a tire out, if you damage a wheel, 1:07:55.000 --> 1:07:56.920 you've got to pay to fix it, you know. 1:07:57.040 --> 1:07:57.160 So. 1:07:57.840 --> 1:07:59.800 And we talk a lot about where our money goes 1:08:00.080 --> 1:08:03.120 with fuel exis and taxes and everything else. It should 1:08:03.120 --> 1:08:04.880 be going into a road network. And I can tell 1:08:04.880 --> 1:08:06.640 you having come back from the States, I did a 1:08:06.640 --> 1:08:09.360 lot of driving. I went into Indiana, Ohio as well, 1:08:09.360 --> 1:08:13.000 and obviously Michigan. The road network over there makes ours 1:08:13.000 --> 1:08:15.800 look embarrassing, even in rural America. 1:08:16.120 --> 1:08:18.160 And they complain it's old and decrepit. 1:08:18.560 --> 1:08:21.040 America makes ours look absolutely horrendous. 1:08:21.080 --> 1:08:23.080 Well, you go to Europe and you see what railroads 1:08:23.080 --> 1:08:26.719 look like. Has there ever been a case where someone 1:08:26.760 --> 1:08:30.200 has successfully sued a council or a state government because 1:08:30.240 --> 1:08:31.799 of a pothole the damage their vehicle. 1:08:31.840 --> 1:08:38.360 I have had unconfirmed reports of people getting a compensation 1:08:38.560 --> 1:08:41.640 for either tires or rims where they've been able to 1:08:41.720 --> 1:08:43.400 identify that it was a pothole that. 1:08:43.360 --> 1:08:44.160 Did the damage. 1:08:44.360 --> 1:08:48.240 So person goes through pothole, tire blows out, stops ten 1:08:48.360 --> 1:08:50.800 meters down the road, takes a photo of the tire, 1:08:50.880 --> 1:08:53.320 takes a photo of the pothole. Has the evidence there. 1:08:54.240 --> 1:08:56.840 They're unconfirmed because councils are never going to tell you 1:08:56.880 --> 1:08:58.560 whether they did or they didn't. They don't want to 1:08:58.600 --> 1:09:01.720 open the phone lines to two hundred thousand constituents. Say, 1:09:01.800 --> 1:09:05.920 pay for my tires, right, but they should because you 1:09:06.000 --> 1:09:09.479 and I aren't responsible for the road surface. Said for example, well, 1:09:09.640 --> 1:09:11.720 we are responsible in that sense, but not responsible for 1:09:11.760 --> 1:09:12.160 the quality. 1:09:12.280 --> 1:09:14.559 No quite okay? One three one eight seven three Carol, 1:09:14.640 --> 1:09:15.920 Good afternoon. 1:09:15.960 --> 1:09:19.599 Hei Hei Michael. I'd like to ask the car guru 1:09:19.680 --> 1:09:24.200 there about a car, suggesting a car for me. I'm 1:09:24.280 --> 1:09:28.320 driving a Mazda three at the moment, twenty seventeen. I 1:09:28.360 --> 1:09:31.360 bought it. It fits nicely into my car spot. I 1:09:31.400 --> 1:09:34.639 couldn't have anything wider. Now. The trouble is, I sit 1:09:34.880 --> 1:09:39.879 down into this Master three and perhaps maybe the springs 1:09:39.920 --> 1:09:44.200 have gone, but I was thinking of an suz the 1:09:44.439 --> 1:09:49.960 open door. Just slide into it. Any suggestions please, Yeah. 1:09:49.800 --> 1:09:51.559 So there'll be nothing wrong with the springs in your 1:09:51.600 --> 1:09:54.600 Masda three. Basically, just what happens is you get to 1:09:54.640 --> 1:09:57.360 a point and it's Funny people assume this happens when 1:09:57.400 --> 1:09:59.760 you're seventy five or eighty years old, but it's not. 1:10:00.040 --> 1:10:01.880 You know, I've got friends who are not even fifty 1:10:01.920 --> 1:10:04.439 yet who are sick and tired of climbing down into 1:10:04.479 --> 1:10:06.439 and up out of cars. They want something with a 1:10:06.479 --> 1:10:08.639 neutral seat height, which is what we're talking about here, 1:10:09.040 --> 1:10:10.880 in that sort of size i'd be looking at. If 1:10:10.920 --> 1:10:12.320 you want to stick with a Masda, you can go 1:10:12.400 --> 1:10:14.800 with a c X three, which will give you a 1:10:14.800 --> 1:10:16.880 little bit more heighth than the car you've got. But 1:10:16.920 --> 1:10:19.640 you've also got things like Kia Celtos. I'd have a 1:10:19.680 --> 1:10:22.800 look at Hyundai Kona. I'd have a look at as well. 1:10:23.360 --> 1:10:25.600 I think they're really really good. And then something like 1:10:25.640 --> 1:10:28.800 a Toyota Yaris Cross as well would be an option. 1:10:29.680 --> 1:10:32.360 Good looking little car, so Yaris Cross, Celtos and ConA. 1:10:32.400 --> 1:10:34.599 Have a look at those. They'll give you the physical 1:10:34.680 --> 1:10:36.880 size that you've got, so quite compact, but a better 1:10:36.920 --> 1:10:37.439 seat height. 1:10:37.560 --> 1:10:40.000 Okay, and the Sex three's that's still based off the 1:10:40.160 --> 1:10:42.160 old Mazda two two. 1:10:42.400 --> 1:10:44.080 It's smaller than a Mazda three out. 1:10:44.240 --> 1:10:44.920 Yeah, that's the thing. 1:10:44.960 --> 1:10:47.080 A little bit higher than the Masda three, but physically, 1:10:47.160 --> 1:10:49.680 especially in the back seat smaller. However, the reason I 1:10:49.760 --> 1:10:51.560 mentioned it is a lot of people don't need the 1:10:51.640 --> 1:10:53.960 second row very often. So if you don't need room 1:10:54.000 --> 1:10:54.920 in the second row, I'd have a. 1:10:54.920 --> 1:10:57.240 Look at that. Okay, Nick's wait there you go, Carol, 1:10:57.280 --> 1:10:57.479 thank you? 1:10:57.640 --> 1:11:01.679 Nick him a question question. 1:11:03.040 --> 1:11:03.920 We are far away. 1:11:04.600 --> 1:11:06.760 Yeah, I just got a question regarding your thoughts on 1:11:06.840 --> 1:11:10.200 the in your Screenady. I had a look at the Prado, 1:11:10.720 --> 1:11:13.600 but did you want the battery the EV side of it? 1:11:13.640 --> 1:11:13.880 Didn't? 1:11:13.880 --> 1:11:18.320 I could plus a boot space yep. Also, I had 1:11:18.360 --> 1:11:21.080 a look at the LC three hundred. I just found 1:11:21.120 --> 1:11:23.479 it way too big, but beautiful, takes off really well. 1:11:24.280 --> 1:11:26.160 But I'm about to go and have a look at 1:11:26.200 --> 1:11:28.599 the innioscreenady, which I'm seeing quite a few of them around. 1:11:29.120 --> 1:11:31.840 Okay, So if a three hundred series is too big 1:11:31.920 --> 1:11:33.560 for you, I reckon a Grenadie is going to be 1:11:33.600 --> 1:11:35.360 too big for you as well, because it is a 1:11:35.400 --> 1:11:38.479 big box of a thing, right, So I would definitely 1:11:38.560 --> 1:11:40.960 go and drive one. I would never recommend that you 1:11:41.120 --> 1:11:43.479 don't drive one. I'd be surprised if you drive a 1:11:43.560 --> 1:11:46.800 grenadier and find that you enjoy driving at more than 1:11:46.840 --> 1:11:48.880 say a three hundred series. I get what you're saying 1:11:48.880 --> 1:11:51.519 with Prado. One of the real issues with Prato is 1:11:51.520 --> 1:11:54.040 the lack of boot space from the hybrid system, which 1:11:54.120 --> 1:11:56.000 you mentioned. It's a problem for a lot of people 1:11:56.320 --> 1:11:59.040 and it's a legitimate issue. We've noted it in some 1:11:59.200 --> 1:12:02.479 of our road tests as well. But I'd be surprised 1:12:02.479 --> 1:12:05.680 if you drive the Grenadier and think that it drives better. 1:12:05.840 --> 1:12:08.040 Than a three hundred series. A three hundred series is 1:12:08.120 --> 1:12:09.679 more of a luxury four wheel drive. 1:12:09.720 --> 1:12:15.280 The Grenadier is more about being a robust, hardcore off roader, 1:12:15.439 --> 1:12:17.960 more like a seventy series land Cruiser is so the 1:12:18.040 --> 1:12:21.000 boxy square one. So I would still drive the Grenadier 1:12:21.120 --> 1:12:23.439 see whether you prefer it over the three hundred series. 1:12:23.760 --> 1:12:26.120 Probably also have a driver of the seventy series as well, 1:12:26.160 --> 1:12:28.960 but their manual only, which might put a line through it. 1:12:30.080 --> 1:12:32.840 But just to repeat myself, I'd be very surprised if 1:12:32.880 --> 1:12:35.559 you drive that Grenadier and you enjoy driving it more 1:12:35.600 --> 1:12:36.679 than the three hundred series. 1:12:36.720 --> 1:12:38.880 There you go get great advice. Just before we take 1:12:38.880 --> 1:12:40.680 a break, this through from New South Wales Police. By 1:12:40.680 --> 1:12:43.040 the way, an investigation now underway following a public place 1:12:43.080 --> 1:12:44.639 shooting in Sydney Southwest today. 1:12:44.680 --> 1:12:45.400 This was in Auburn. 1:12:46.080 --> 1:12:48.920 Police were called to South Parade, Auburn following reports of 1:12:48.960 --> 1:12:51.920 a shooting. New South Wales Ambulance paramedics are on scene 1:12:52.000 --> 1:12:54.759 treating three people for gunshot wounds. 1:12:54.840 --> 1:12:55.320 Three people. 1:12:55.800 --> 1:12:58.679 Crime scene has been established and South Parade and surrounding 1:12:58.720 --> 1:13:02.760 streets are currently closed used. So that's just come through 1:13:03.800 --> 1:13:07.320 from the New South Wales Police and investigation underway after 1:13:07.360 --> 1:13:10.840 a public place shooting in Auburn at about one point 1:13:10.840 --> 1:13:13.599 fifteen this afternoon, so about half an hour ago now. 1:13:13.720 --> 1:13:16.240 Three people believe to have suffered gunshot wounds from what 1:13:16.320 --> 1:13:19.320 I can see. Breaking more five to two talking motoring 1:13:19.360 --> 1:13:21.760 here with Trent John. What's your question for Trent John? 1:13:23.360 --> 1:13:27.160 Yeah, Trent, I'm I've been looking at these Mayba S 1:13:27.320 --> 1:13:31.439 class Mercedes that are coming out of Japan secondhand. Are 1:13:31.479 --> 1:13:32.280 you aware of both? 1:13:32.520 --> 1:13:32.680 Yeah? 1:13:32.720 --> 1:13:35.200 Mate, I'm aware of all the various stuff that comes 1:13:35.240 --> 1:13:37.880 in from overseas. The only sort of advice I'd give 1:13:37.920 --> 1:13:40.840 you on an import is that, and we've learnt this 1:13:40.960 --> 1:13:42.559 the hard way by dealing with a lot of people 1:13:42.680 --> 1:13:45.760 is don't assume that just because it's a Mercedes Benz 1:13:45.840 --> 1:13:48.000 or a may bark in this case that if something 1:13:48.120 --> 1:13:50.720 was to go wrong with it, that Mercedes Benz Australia 1:13:50.760 --> 1:13:53.559 would help you out. They may not necessarily. They may 1:13:53.640 --> 1:13:56.000 say we never sold that vehicle here, or that particular 1:13:56.080 --> 1:13:59.280 one was imported from another market. So just be aware 1:13:59.360 --> 1:14:03.639 of things like parts availability and service availability. In terms 1:14:03.640 --> 1:14:06.120 of getting cars out of Japan, the quality of them 1:14:06.160 --> 1:14:08.360 and the servicing on them is usually pretty good, so 1:14:08.439 --> 1:14:10.720 if that's all verified, there's nothing to worry about there. 1:14:11.000 --> 1:14:12.680 But just be aware that you might be on your 1:14:12.680 --> 1:14:14.240 own if something goes wrong when it gets. 1:14:14.080 --> 1:14:17.960 Here and just twenty seconds here the Zeka seven X 1:14:18.080 --> 1:14:18.800 the electric car. 1:14:18.880 --> 1:14:21.880 Any thoughts, Yeah, that would stay tuned to drive dot com. 1:14:21.920 --> 1:14:23.599 Do you will let you know more about that as 1:14:23.600 --> 1:14:24.479 it comes to never heard of it? 1:14:24.720 --> 1:14:27.519 Zeka funny names. That's a new brand. At least it's 1:14:27.560 --> 1:14:29.920 not an animal from the sea. Againtivity. 1:14:30.320 --> 1:14:33.320 Thanks Fred, Thanks match next week. Trent Negolage, Mitch, you're 1:14:33.360 --> 1:14:35.400 still having trouble with Australia Post. Just sent me a 1:14:35.439 --> 1:14:37.760 text saying just had another delivery by oz Post. Yet 1:14:37.760 --> 1:14:40.519 again they didn't ring the doorbell even after the instruction, 1:14:40.680 --> 1:14:42.080 so I don't know what we can do about this. 1:14:42.280 --> 1:14:43.200 Sorry about that, Mitch. 1:14:44.400 --> 1:14:50.880 Now onto gb and network stations. Back to afternoons with 1:14:51.080 --> 1:14:52.040 Michael McLaren. 1:14:52.960 --> 1:14:54.320 All right, did the third hour. 1:14:54.439 --> 1:14:57.559 We've got our winter wheel ready to be spun shortly, 1:14:57.720 --> 1:14:59.840 so stay listening for the cuter call. I want you 1:14:59.880 --> 1:15:02.599 to when whatever's going to come up. One three hundred 1:15:02.640 --> 1:15:04.800 and seven double two eight seven three the prize line. 1:15:04.840 --> 1:15:07.200 That's the number you're going to need when you hear 1:15:07.280 --> 1:15:10.120 the cuticle. Don't call now, don't call now. All good 1:15:10.160 --> 1:15:12.280 things come to those that wait. By the way, have 1:15:12.360 --> 1:15:16.400 you heard of the name Gasparred Fara. It's a name 1:15:16.479 --> 1:15:19.000 you'd not forget if you were called it, I suppose. 1:15:19.080 --> 1:15:23.360 But Gasparred Fara half French, half English by the sand 1:15:23.360 --> 1:15:26.759 of things anyway. Interesting, I was reading over the weekend 1:15:26.800 --> 1:15:29.680 a story about this bloke. He's well and truly dead now, 1:15:30.760 --> 1:15:32.120 but as it says here, he might just be a 1:15:32.160 --> 1:15:34.559 footnote in history, except he's going to be remembered by 1:15:34.720 --> 1:15:38.880 the equivalent of the treasurer over in the UK, Rachel Reeves, 1:15:39.040 --> 1:15:43.200 Chancellor of the Exchequer, because mister Farrer there was a 1:15:43.360 --> 1:15:47.240 former partner at the now defunct Bearings Bank, is thought 1:15:47.320 --> 1:15:53.559 to have left five hundred thousand pounds in nineteen twenty seven. 1:15:54.120 --> 1:15:56.760 If you don't mind, that's a stonking sum of cash 1:15:56.800 --> 1:16:00.200 at nineteen twenty seven as a gift to Britain in 1:16:00.320 --> 1:16:03.439 response to the UK's huge national debt after the First 1:16:03.479 --> 1:16:09.760 World War. Now there were rules in place, and this 1:16:10.000 --> 1:16:13.599 was the foundation donation of a so called national fund 1:16:13.840 --> 1:16:17.600 established at the time, and the rules said that it 1:16:17.640 --> 1:16:19.880 could only be made available. The money in the fund 1:16:19.960 --> 1:16:23.120 could only be made available when it was enough to 1:16:23.280 --> 1:16:28.519 pay off the national debt in full. Now that meant 1:16:28.560 --> 1:16:34.519 for years the fortune had been locked away from successive governments. Well, 1:16:34.640 --> 1:16:38.120 the five hundred thousand pound seed fund, plus other things 1:16:38.160 --> 1:16:40.080 that have been thrown in over the years from other people, 1:16:41.200 --> 1:16:45.719 now five hundred and eighty five million pounds worth of coin, 1:16:47.160 --> 1:16:49.360 and governments over the years in the UK been trying 1:16:49.360 --> 1:16:50.760 to get their hands on it, because of course they 1:16:50.800 --> 1:16:55.320 can't manage the debt and so despite the stipulation that 1:16:55.479 --> 1:16:57.800 they can only release the capitol once the debt could 1:16:57.840 --> 1:17:00.360 be paid as a lump sum in full, been going 1:17:00.360 --> 1:17:02.120 to court to try to get it anyway. Twenty twenty 1:17:02.120 --> 1:17:04.080 two High Court ruling order that the funds should be 1:17:04.160 --> 1:17:08.000 released and the decision was upheld after the trustees of 1:17:08.040 --> 1:17:12.560 the fund lodged and appeal. So the Treasury boff and 1:17:12.640 --> 1:17:14.920 over there the Chancellor of the Exchequer. It seems we'll 1:17:14.960 --> 1:17:17.320 get a hands on well the better part of a 1:17:17.360 --> 1:17:20.160 billion Australian dollars. Now, of course that won't even touch 1:17:20.200 --> 1:17:23.439 the sides of the UK national debt. It's extraordinary, but 1:17:23.640 --> 1:17:29.479 nonetheless it's the idea I found kind of compelling. So 1:17:29.640 --> 1:17:33.160 you've got these very wealthy people who had a sense 1:17:33.200 --> 1:17:35.600 of national pride and patriotism. They did well out of 1:17:35.680 --> 1:17:38.760 banking or whatever, and so in their will they said, 1:17:38.800 --> 1:17:42.200 I bequeath this huge stonking sum of cash to the nation, 1:17:43.280 --> 1:17:44.880 and I want it, like the Future Fund, to be 1:17:45.000 --> 1:17:47.280 managed and set aside, and when it gets to a 1:17:47.439 --> 1:17:51.080 certain level, you can liberate the funds and pay off 1:17:51.160 --> 1:17:54.200 the debt and that'll be my lasting gift. 1:17:54.080 --> 1:17:56.400 To the nation. I love nice idea. 1:17:57.000 --> 1:18:01.200 The problem is it's sort of can receivable to the 1:18:01.240 --> 1:18:03.720 point of being practical. If your national debt is like 1:18:03.840 --> 1:18:06.320 it was in the past for us, you know, ninety 1:18:07.520 --> 1:18:10.000 what was it? What were we at one point a 1:18:10.080 --> 1:18:12.960 couple of hundred million dollars or something. But when it 1:18:13.120 --> 1:18:17.200 turns to being nearly a trillion, which is what we're now, 1:18:18.760 --> 1:18:20.800 then you sort of think, you know, even if Gina 1:18:20.880 --> 1:18:24.160 ryan Hart and Twiggy Forest and Kerry Stokes and you know, 1:18:24.280 --> 1:18:26.640 all the big boys and girls said a right, well, 1:18:26.680 --> 1:18:28.880 here's a billion, here's a billion, here's a billion. When 1:18:28.920 --> 1:18:34.679 I die, even with compound interest in a bull market, 1:18:35.120 --> 1:18:37.880 you'd go nowhere near it. And I suppose to a 1:18:37.920 --> 1:18:39.519 certain extent that gives you a bit of an idea 1:18:39.560 --> 1:18:42.080 about how the psychology of debt has changed over the years. 1:18:42.640 --> 1:18:45.600 So the British in the late twenties obviously racked up 1:18:45.600 --> 1:18:49.680 an enormous debt post war. The empire was understrained. They 1:18:50.200 --> 1:18:53.120 economy had been sapped because of everything had to be 1:18:53.200 --> 1:18:56.320 poured into the war. The percentage of the GDP spent 1:18:56.400 --> 1:18:58.000 on defense would have been in the thirty percent. So 1:18:58.040 --> 1:19:01.639 I would imagine during those times, and so these people 1:19:01.680 --> 1:19:05.320 that did well and had patriotism in their hearts said, okay, well, 1:19:06.200 --> 1:19:09.720 here's my bit, manage it, and yeah, there'll be the 1:19:09.760 --> 1:19:11.479 sun will come up tomorrow, as they sing it, Annie. 1:19:12.520 --> 1:19:15.080 No one would consider that today, because there's there's no 1:19:15.280 --> 1:19:17.680 conceivable way that the money, rays would go near it. 1:19:19.320 --> 1:19:22.920 So are we living beyond our means? Yeah? Certainly are 1:19:23.320 --> 1:19:24.519 interesting note anyway, look. 1:19:24.479 --> 1:19:28.400 Him up Gaspard gasp A r D Pharah Fa double 1:19:28.479 --> 1:19:31.640 r E. I had some farahs in the family, but 1:19:31.720 --> 1:19:34.639 I think it was a we didn't get a slice 1:19:34.680 --> 1:19:35.439 of the fortune. 1:19:35.479 --> 1:19:37.639 Let's put it that way. One three, one eight seven three. 1:19:37.680 --> 1:19:39.920 Now, by the way, the ABC have got back to Olivia, 1:19:41.040 --> 1:19:43.840 ree what their style guide is. Remember that story earlier 1:19:43.840 --> 1:19:47.599 about dual naming indigenous names and the traditional names are 1:19:47.680 --> 1:19:50.599 being used in this story. Now, I'm not saying I'm 1:19:50.640 --> 1:19:52.160 going to lose sleep over it, but I want to 1:19:52.280 --> 1:19:54.040 know if this is the new normal or if this 1:19:54.160 --> 1:19:56.599 is a journalist going on a bit of an independent frolic. 1:19:57.400 --> 1:20:02.240 The response doesn't really make that clear, but it's as follows. 1:20:02.320 --> 1:20:05.840 The ABC Charter responsibilities include requirement to contribute to a 1:20:05.920 --> 1:20:09.000 sense of national identity and reflect on the cultural diversity 1:20:09.040 --> 1:20:11.200 of the Australian community. A key part of this is 1:20:11.280 --> 1:20:14.800 acknowledging the First Peoples of Australia. The ABC has a 1:20:14.960 --> 1:20:17.920 long and proud tradition that says of helping promote the 1:20:18.000 --> 1:20:22.479 visibility of First Nations peoples and voices in the national conversation, 1:20:22.880 --> 1:20:25.760 and for the past fifteen years this has been given 1:20:25.840 --> 1:20:30.280 particular focus by our reconciliation action plans. In the first 1:20:30.439 --> 1:20:35.040 ABC Elevate Reconciliation Action Plan, we embedded Aboriginal and Torres 1:20:35.040 --> 1:20:39.120 Strait Island the languages and place names across ABC content 1:20:39.680 --> 1:20:43.280 and platforms, helping them become part of the language of 1:20:43.680 --> 1:20:45.760 the nation. And there's a link where you can read 1:20:45.800 --> 1:20:46.280 more about it. 1:20:46.400 --> 1:20:50.320 So, yeah, it's there. But this isn't used all the time, 1:20:51.160 --> 1:20:52.400 and so I wonder. 1:20:52.120 --> 1:20:54.840 If it's what we've sort of uncovered as a sort 1:20:54.840 --> 1:20:56.920 of a bit of a first step to what will 1:20:56.960 --> 1:20:57.920 become common practice. 1:20:57.920 --> 1:20:59.400 I don't know, as I said, the bigger things to 1:20:59.439 --> 1:20:59.840 worry about. 1:20:59.840 --> 1:21:03.360 It's just interesting to know. Nonetheless, one three one eight 1:21:03.479 --> 1:21:10.600 seven three the open line number. Now, there was a 1:21:10.640 --> 1:21:14.600 couple of stories bouncing around over the weekend about electric vehicles. 1:21:15.760 --> 1:21:15.880 Now. 1:21:15.960 --> 1:21:18.519 One was to do with hybrids and no ovated leases 1:21:18.560 --> 1:21:20.680 and tax breaks that have been wound up, and I 1:21:20.720 --> 1:21:22.479 can get to that later if there's time. But the 1:21:22.560 --> 1:21:24.639 one that really caught my attention was in the Financial Review, 1:21:24.680 --> 1:21:26.080 and it's to do with the people that have an 1:21:26.080 --> 1:21:30.320 ev in the inner city. Now, what they're doing to 1:21:30.479 --> 1:21:35.080 charge their vehicles is shall we say, unconventional. Whether it's legal, 1:21:35.320 --> 1:21:37.600 I have no idea. I'd imagine it's not, but I 1:21:37.680 --> 1:21:40.360 don't know, so I won't name them. The article does. 1:21:40.400 --> 1:21:41.920 But so if they get a spot of bother with 1:21:41.960 --> 1:21:43.880 the law, I don't want any part of that. But 1:21:44.160 --> 1:21:46.800 pole mounted chargers and they are sprouting. I've seen a 1:21:46.840 --> 1:21:49.960 few near me, these EV charges that have turned up 1:21:50.080 --> 1:21:53.240 attached to a powerpole. No one seems to be using them, 1:21:53.240 --> 1:21:56.320 but nonetheless they're there. They're sprouting up to cater for 1:21:56.400 --> 1:21:58.719 EV drivers without off street parking. 1:21:59.800 --> 1:22:01.719 However, others know where. 1:22:01.560 --> 1:22:06.160 Near these nascent technologies are desperate to jag a spot 1:22:06.200 --> 1:22:08.960 in front of their home so they can lay an 1:22:09.000 --> 1:22:15.280 extension cable across the footpath to then charge their vehicle overnight. 1:22:16.439 --> 1:22:20.280 So one bal Main resident who drives Amdsubishi outland a 1:22:20.320 --> 1:22:22.720 plague in hybrid hasn't yet used one of these new 1:22:22.800 --> 1:22:25.840 pole mounted charges that's gone in beside Birch Grove Oval 1:22:25.880 --> 1:22:28.760 where this person's near there, preferring instead to use fast 1:22:28.840 --> 1:22:31.559 charges at the shops or the old home solution. 1:22:31.760 --> 1:22:33.759 Now, what's the home solution for this? Lady. 1:22:33.880 --> 1:22:37.040 Well, she says, and I quote, we at the moment 1:22:37.240 --> 1:22:41.000 drop an electrical cable off our balcony which goes straight 1:22:41.120 --> 1:22:44.519 down to the car. The cable snakes down the pole 1:22:44.600 --> 1:22:48.040 of a parking sign to the vehicle, where an orange 1:22:48.160 --> 1:22:52.240 cone warns drivers not to hit the charging car. 1:22:53.600 --> 1:22:57.000 See what I mean when I say it's unconventional. As 1:22:57.080 --> 1:22:59.280 the lady said, I don't know how legal it is, 1:22:59.439 --> 1:23:04.120 but one no one has complained. We charge it overnight. 1:23:04.479 --> 1:23:07.559 Sometimes you've got this big cable coming out the window 1:23:07.600 --> 1:23:10.519 of the unit, down down some pole to wherever the 1:23:10.640 --> 1:23:14.760 car is. In a communal area, charging overnight lo could 1:23:14.800 --> 1:23:18.360 go wrong, but that seems terribly sensible compared to this 1:23:18.439 --> 1:23:21.640 next person, also from Bowmin, where it says here we 1:23:21.720 --> 1:23:25.479 don't have off street parking, so when we do manage 1:23:25.479 --> 1:23:26.840 to get a spot out in front of the house, 1:23:27.160 --> 1:23:31.080 we have some rubber cord concealing black and yellow ramps. 1:23:31.640 --> 1:23:34.240 We run a cord from the mains in the front 1:23:34.400 --> 1:23:38.920 room under those ramps out to the car and charge 1:23:38.960 --> 1:23:43.439 it overnight. Now I've got an image of someone, if 1:23:43.479 --> 1:23:46.720 it's not that person, someone doing something very similar. The 1:23:46.840 --> 1:23:50.360 issue is the power cable goes over the footpath over 1:23:50.479 --> 1:23:54.839 the verge and into the car right sometimes overnight? 1:23:55.920 --> 1:23:58.040 Is that legal? I want the thought so I don't 1:23:58.040 --> 1:23:59.879 think you can got a trip has it over the footpath? 1:24:00.840 --> 1:24:01.720 Certainly not at night? 1:24:02.680 --> 1:24:02.800 Now? 1:24:02.840 --> 1:24:06.600 Okay, they've put this sort of plasticky rubbery thing on 1:24:06.720 --> 1:24:08.920 top so that you'd probably stub it with your toe 1:24:09.080 --> 1:24:10.960 rather than go for a complete trip. But at night, 1:24:11.479 --> 1:24:13.920 the streets of Baal Main art that well lit, and 1:24:14.320 --> 1:24:16.120 I would have thought this would have been a health hazard. 1:24:16.640 --> 1:24:19.000 I'm surprised the council aren't onto this sort of thing. 1:24:19.120 --> 1:24:21.280 You know, they're busy finding people all over the place 1:24:21.320 --> 1:24:24.160 for parking in front of someone's driveway or daring to 1:24:24.240 --> 1:24:26.680 park on the grass medium strip because there's nowhere else 1:24:26.760 --> 1:24:27.080 or whatever. 1:24:27.720 --> 1:24:29.680 Are they rounding this sort of stuff up anyway? I 1:24:29.680 --> 1:24:30.080 don't look. 1:24:30.360 --> 1:24:32.320 I don't have an electric I've got a hybrid, but 1:24:32.760 --> 1:24:35.560 it's one of those ones that the motor does the 1:24:35.640 --> 1:24:38.439 work for you. But if you live in an area 1:24:38.479 --> 1:24:40.599 where people are doing this, I'd like to hear your stories. 1:24:40.640 --> 1:24:43.520 One three, one eight seven three people charging their evs 1:24:44.200 --> 1:24:47.559 using lots of extension cables from the house out through 1:24:47.640 --> 1:24:49.839 the front gator over the front fence, over the footpath, 1:24:49.920 --> 1:24:53.519 over the grass and into the car. Or in a 1:24:53.640 --> 1:24:56.240 common like apartment building, they're running it down from the 1:24:56.320 --> 1:24:59.759 fourth story balcony, this huge long snake of a cable 1:24:59.800 --> 1:25:01.400 going down to wherever they've got their car. 1:25:01.600 --> 1:25:04.000 Oh, but it's because we put an orange cone nearby 1:25:04.120 --> 1:25:07.360 to one. Really, is this what we're doing? Are we 1:25:07.479 --> 1:25:09.280 not putting dere say, at the cart before the horse. 1:25:09.280 --> 1:25:10.920 I'm in sure that you've got to have the infrastructure 1:25:10.920 --> 1:25:13.280 in place to charge the vehicles before you buy the vehicles. 1:25:13.880 --> 1:25:15.640 Or is that old school thinking? I don't know. One 1:25:15.720 --> 1:25:17.720 three one eight seven three. Good to be with you, 1:25:18.280 --> 1:25:20.280 twenty past two, almost on the dot. 1:25:22.320 --> 1:25:24.080 These winter Wheel. 1:25:25.120 --> 1:25:26.439 Oh there's your cuter. 1:25:26.520 --> 1:25:29.759 Call ladies and gentlemen, be call a number eight. Please 1:25:29.880 --> 1:25:32.519 call a number eight on that prize line one three 1:25:32.680 --> 1:25:35.880 hundred seven double two eight seven three. And if that's you, 1:25:36.520 --> 1:25:38.719 you're going to have a chance to spin two GB's 1:25:38.760 --> 1:25:39.960 winter Well I'll spin it for you. 1:25:40.080 --> 1:25:41.759 But you know what I mean, the winter Wheel. 1:25:41.760 --> 1:25:44.280 There's up to forty thousand dollars worth of cash and 1:25:44.360 --> 1:25:47.280 prizes to be won. Call the prize line, not the 1:25:47.360 --> 1:25:50.320 open line, the prize line one three hundred seven double 1:25:50.360 --> 1:25:53.479 two eight seven three, call a number eight, good luck. 1:25:54.040 --> 1:25:57.120 Now I've positioned the wheel so that the maximum prize 1:25:57.240 --> 1:26:00.639 or ham I hadn't, Joel's moved it. Twenty five hundred dollars. 1:26:01.160 --> 1:26:03.800 That's the top finance prize there. That'll come in handy, 1:26:03.800 --> 1:26:05.599 all right. So that's there ready to go right at 1:26:05.640 --> 1:26:08.320 the top. When we get call a number eight, we'll 1:26:08.360 --> 1:26:09.120 get them on air and. 1:26:09.240 --> 1:26:10.200 I'll spin the wheel. 1:26:10.520 --> 1:26:14.360 And I've been said working on the working on the 1:26:14.400 --> 1:26:17.519 bicep all weekend. Give them a best shot. This spin 1:26:17.720 --> 1:26:20.960 is going to beautiful spin, trumpet you great spin. Beautiful spin. 1:26:21.040 --> 1:26:22.960 Never had a bit of spin than this. So we'll 1:26:23.000 --> 1:26:25.000 see if we can get twenty five hundred dollars in 1:26:25.080 --> 1:26:27.240 someone's pocket all thereabouts. 1:26:28.080 --> 1:26:30.040 While we're waiting for caller eight. By the way, we 1:26:30.160 --> 1:26:31.560 just got to connect the dots and all of that. 1:26:32.479 --> 1:26:36.160 There was this story that bubbled up in and it 1:26:36.280 --> 1:26:39.160 was embargoed until today, so I couldn't mention it on Friday. 1:26:39.200 --> 1:26:42.639 But it's a survey, and I guess it's got people talking. 1:26:42.680 --> 1:26:46.120 That's what they meant to do. A new national survey 1:26:46.280 --> 1:26:48.680 is apparently revealed that while the cost of living is 1:26:48.720 --> 1:26:51.559 a key concern for one in four Aussie home cooks. 1:26:52.160 --> 1:26:57.080 Tiredness is the biggest barrier to home cooking, sixty six 1:26:57.160 --> 1:27:00.280 percent of people saying they're simply too exhausted to make 1:27:00.400 --> 1:27:06.479 dinner several times a week. Really is this true? People 1:27:06.520 --> 1:27:11.840 are so tired they can't make their own dinner? I 1:27:11.920 --> 1:27:17.080 guess then they're buying. Now, this hasn't been commissioned by 1:27:17.080 --> 1:27:20.320 a takeaway joint, which is surprising. But taste dot com 1:27:20.439 --> 1:27:23.800 dot you or the brains behind this and this is 1:27:23.880 --> 1:27:27.519 the dinner heroes? Ah, hang on, okay, the dinner heroes research? 1:27:27.560 --> 1:27:30.600 Who are they dinner heroes? Do they prepare meals that 1:27:30.640 --> 1:27:31.360 you get delivered? 1:27:31.439 --> 1:27:31.680 Is that what? 1:27:31.840 --> 1:27:32.160 I don't know? 1:27:32.240 --> 1:27:34.400 Well, I'll look into that. But it's also found that 1:27:34.479 --> 1:27:37.320 the gender gap in the kitchen is narrowing, with almost 1:27:37.360 --> 1:27:40.479 three quarters of men cooking dinner for the household and 1:27:40.920 --> 1:27:43.680 even more fathers seventy six percent giving cooking a go. 1:27:45.640 --> 1:27:48.479 So oh no, here we go. See I had to 1:27:48.600 --> 1:27:51.120 read on, I didn't read enough. I was time pool. 1:27:51.240 --> 1:27:52.320 It's too tired to read on. 1:27:52.880 --> 1:27:55.519 Too busy cooking dinner, It says here to support energy 1:27:55.560 --> 1:27:57.720 and time poor households, Taste dot com dot you has 1:27:57.760 --> 1:28:00.400 craft a twenty flavor packed no fuss recipes use Cole's 1:28:00.400 --> 1:28:02.519 own brand essentials. It will help to the okay, said, 1:28:03.560 --> 1:28:04.519 hence the survey. 1:28:05.360 --> 1:28:06.280 But is it true? 1:28:06.880 --> 1:28:10.040 I mean, I'm almost willing to call balloney on it. 1:28:10.840 --> 1:28:13.040 A lot of people are tired, but very few people 1:28:13.040 --> 1:28:14.280 are so tired they don't go and eat. 1:28:15.080 --> 1:28:15.240 You know. 1:28:15.320 --> 1:28:17.800 It's sort of one of those survival things, right, you 1:28:17.920 --> 1:28:21.519 don't do it enough and then you well you're permanently 1:28:21.560 --> 1:28:22.879 tired if you follow them a gist. 1:28:23.360 --> 1:28:25.720 Right, So, I don't know. I mean once a week? 1:28:25.920 --> 1:28:26.080 Is that? 1:28:26.240 --> 1:28:28.120 Is that the rule in your house for takeaways? Maybe 1:28:28.160 --> 1:28:30.760 Friday night or something, you know, once a week. I 1:28:30.840 --> 1:28:34.240 don't think too many people would be doing takeaway or 1:28:34.320 --> 1:28:37.320 prepackaged or whatever more than once a week. It's it's expensive, 1:28:37.520 --> 1:28:37.760 isn't it. 1:28:38.320 --> 1:28:38.679 Anyway? 1:28:38.960 --> 1:28:40.840 Maybe I'm out of touch. You tell me one three 1:28:40.920 --> 1:28:45.439 one eight seven three? Okay, Now, Peter of Earlwood, Hello, Peter? 1:28:46.600 --> 1:28:46.880 Hello? 1:28:47.479 --> 1:28:49.839 How are you? I'm good? How are you? That's more important? 1:28:50.200 --> 1:28:50.519 Okay? 1:28:50.680 --> 1:28:53.040 I'm a little well, why I'm the one who's got 1:28:53.080 --> 1:28:54.840 to spin the wheel. You just you just win, You 1:28:55.040 --> 1:28:57.600 just you're going to get something Okay, now what do 1:28:57.640 --> 1:29:00.360 you now? We've got twenty five hundred, seven hundred fifty 1:29:00.439 --> 1:29:04.120 fifteen hundred d D's group voucher. We've got go to 1:29:04.400 --> 1:29:07.160 Denti Genie fifteen. There's all sorts of stuff like. 1:29:07.120 --> 1:29:07.679 Are you ready? 1:29:08.600 --> 1:29:09.160 I'm ready? 1:29:09.560 --> 1:29:09.960 You sure? 1:29:11.320 --> 1:29:12.280 You know what? 1:29:13.000 --> 1:29:13.360 Here we go. 1:29:14.439 --> 1:29:15.920 I'll give you a choice because I'm a you know, 1:29:16.000 --> 1:29:18.519 I'm a I'm a capitalist kind of guy. You want 1:29:18.520 --> 1:29:20.479 to go clockwork clockwise or any clockwise? 1:29:20.520 --> 1:29:21.000 Your choice? 1:29:22.280 --> 1:29:23.200 No, go clockwise. 1:29:23.760 --> 1:29:27.120 Here we go, rounding goes round round round. 1:29:27.920 --> 1:29:29.960 Clinton Manas just turned up to see how it's done, 1:29:30.760 --> 1:29:32.320 because there's a you know, it's all in the wrist 1:29:32.439 --> 1:29:38.000 this one, Peter, how's five hundred. 1:29:37.760 --> 1:29:39.960 Bucks, Peter, It's awesome. 1:29:40.280 --> 1:29:44.000 It's coming your way. Five hundred dollars. You know we 1:29:44.120 --> 1:29:46.040 were one tick away from fifteen hundred. That's why I 1:29:46.120 --> 1:29:47.920 was a little hesitant. But five hundred better than a. 1:29:47.920 --> 1:29:48.479 Poker and eye. 1:29:49.280 --> 1:29:52.280 Thank you for listening, Thank you so much. 1:29:52.680 --> 1:29:56.200 Five hundred Okay, well done, Peter, Peter of Earlwood, five 1:29:56.320 --> 1:29:59.200 hundred dollars wealthier, just for listening to two GB in 1:29:59.320 --> 1:30:01.960 winter time. Now we call this the winter Wheel, and 1:30:02.080 --> 1:30:03.920 we're going to be spinning the wheel in breakfast mornings 1:30:03.960 --> 1:30:07.040 afternoons in Sydney now with Clinton. So stay listening for 1:30:07.120 --> 1:30:09.720 your chance to do what Peter did and win on 1:30:09.880 --> 1:30:10.960 Sydney's two GB. 1:30:11.760 --> 1:30:14.760 It's that time of the afternoon. Time to find out 1:30:14.960 --> 1:30:18.320 what's coming up on Sydney Now for the Serrato successor, 1:30:18.479 --> 1:30:22.000 the turbo charged Kia K four kias a new small 1:30:22.040 --> 1:30:25.800 sedan GT Line very utavailable now find out more about 1:30:25.880 --> 1:30:27.320 Kia's latest small car. 1:30:28.040 --> 1:30:31.120 See Clinton. It's all in the wrist. That's that's the key. 1:30:31.160 --> 1:30:32.640 You just give it a you know, listen to that. 1:30:32.760 --> 1:30:33.719 What a beautiful sound. 1:30:33.920 --> 1:30:36.599 Well, congratulations to Peter for picking up the five hundred dollars. 1:30:36.800 --> 1:30:39.679 And you'll see that I'm wearing a special hat, Michael. 1:30:39.800 --> 1:30:40.879 Yes, the blue Leprecorn. 1:30:41.040 --> 1:30:43.479 I've got the blue Eleprecorn hat because the presenters are 1:30:43.520 --> 1:30:45.800 required to wear this hat when they're spinning the wheel. 1:30:46.040 --> 1:30:47.720 I note that you didn't know about that. 1:30:47.880 --> 1:30:49.519 I'll be wearing the hat because I think it'll give 1:30:49.560 --> 1:30:52.400 me some superpowers needed because I did hear what you 1:30:52.479 --> 1:30:54.599 had to say about me learning the program, and look 1:30:54.640 --> 1:30:57.040 at those where you suggested that I wouldn't actually have 1:30:57.160 --> 1:30:59.439 the strength to spin the wheel. 1:30:59.640 --> 1:31:02.200 It's much. It's a particularly robust wheel. 1:31:03.479 --> 1:31:06.120 I've been training over the weekend in preparation for the 1:31:06.160 --> 1:31:09.880 wheel spinning, So I'm very confident. Whoever ring, I think 1:31:09.920 --> 1:31:12.599 we'll take the fifth caller through when I have not yet, 1:31:12.720 --> 1:31:15.080 not yet, don't call it yet. Later in my program, 1:31:15.160 --> 1:31:18.320 we'll take the fifth caller. Whoever's the fifth caller can 1:31:18.400 --> 1:31:20.479 be assured that we're going to have one almighty spin. 1:31:22.800 --> 1:31:25.200 This is the song that never ends, the spin that 1:31:25.280 --> 1:31:26.280 gives for six minutes. 1:31:26.360 --> 1:31:28.679 So I'm very confident we're going to win a crack 1:31:29.080 --> 1:31:32.280 all cracking prizes and fantastic, wonderful prize, hundred dollars in 1:31:32.360 --> 1:31:32.920 Peter's wallet. 1:31:33.040 --> 1:31:33.479 How good's that? 1:31:33.640 --> 1:31:36.559 But I'm just reading a survey that's been released here 1:31:36.680 --> 1:31:40.320 by an organization be called the Bee World Co. And 1:31:40.600 --> 1:31:42.679 it says that many of us at work have mentally 1:31:42.800 --> 1:31:44.960 checked out, that we're struggling, that we feel we have 1:31:45.080 --> 1:31:47.200 no support. And that's sort of the way I felt, Michael, 1:31:47.240 --> 1:31:52.280 when you describe my physique at the right. Apparently there's 1:31:52.320 --> 1:31:55.240 a massive problem in this country. It's costing employees seven 1:31:55.320 --> 1:32:01.320 billion dollars annually forearms present. T is Oh, have you 1:32:01.360 --> 1:32:06.760 heard about presents presentism. Okay, it's the opposite to absenteeism. Right, 1:32:07.000 --> 1:32:09.439 So it's instead of taking a sickie, people are turning 1:32:09.520 --> 1:32:12.519 up to work and then just not bothering performing while 1:32:12.520 --> 1:32:13.160 they're at work. 1:32:13.360 --> 1:32:17.679 Right, Nothing worse for productivity than people going to work. 1:32:17.800 --> 1:32:20.320 They're physically there, so it can't go down as a 1:32:20.360 --> 1:32:23.920 sick day. Survey shows seventy six people. Seventy six percent 1:32:23.960 --> 1:32:27.200 of people feel unsupported. They're languishing because of the impact 1:32:27.240 --> 1:32:30.320 of their peers. What yah, So I'm reading this while 1:32:30.320 --> 1:32:32.880 I'm hearing you being highly critical of my strength and 1:32:32.960 --> 1:32:35.840 my ability to spin the wheel, and thinking, well, am 1:32:35.880 --> 1:32:39.160 I victim of maybe an example of presentism? 1:32:39.479 --> 1:32:42.439 Perhaps perhaps I just want to set for the record 1:32:42.520 --> 1:32:44.320 now that Clinton has taken this personally, that you have 1:32:44.400 --> 1:32:45.519 particularly beautiful arms. 1:32:45.520 --> 1:32:47.360 Oh, thank you, Michael. Well, that's shape. 1:32:47.640 --> 1:32:48.599 It's years of hard work. 1:32:48.760 --> 1:32:52.080 The statue of David comes to mind. The arms. I'm 1:32:52.120 --> 1:32:54.280 talking about, years of hard work. 1:32:54.479 --> 1:32:57.400 Yes, we'll be covering everything that's happening in Sydney now 1:32:57.600 --> 1:33:00.040 this afternoon and hurting their shooting at all. Well, and 1:33:00.280 --> 1:33:03.680 tell you this is just come to my attention right now. 1:33:04.240 --> 1:33:08.280 The premiere has just put our statement, Chris Minn says, 1:33:08.520 --> 1:33:11.880 this is shockingly brazen. New South Wales Police Force investigators 1:33:11.880 --> 1:33:14.360 a hunting nowl zerver spot that was responsible. We don't 1:33:14.439 --> 1:33:17.439 stand for it. New South Wales Police do not stand 1:33:17.520 --> 1:33:19.920 for it. The New South Wales Police forces level charges 1:33:20.280 --> 1:33:23.000 in relation to twenty the twenty five organized crime murders 1:33:23.000 --> 1:33:25.880 since twenty twenty one, and they're not done yet. People 1:33:25.920 --> 1:33:28.080 committing this kind of violence can expect to be arrested, 1:33:28.120 --> 1:33:31.240 in charged and spend their years inside small jail cells. 1:33:31.960 --> 1:33:33.960 So we'll cross straight out to Auburn at the start 1:33:33.960 --> 1:33:36.920 of the program. Our reporter Josh Bryant is on the way. 1:33:37.600 --> 1:33:39.320 I believe it was about quarter pass one that the 1:33:39.680 --> 1:33:42.360 bullets allegedly rang out. Of course that time you've got 1:33:42.400 --> 1:33:47.320 people there having lunch nearby Auburn train station. It's a 1:33:48.439 --> 1:33:52.240 there's a suggestion in the Telegraph that people have been 1:33:52.280 --> 1:33:57.080 shot outside a kebab shop and a nearby tobacconist. Whether 1:33:57.160 --> 1:33:59.960 there's a connection to the premises or that's just happy 1:34:00.200 --> 1:34:02.000 to be what was there at the location, I'm not 1:34:02.040 --> 1:34:04.840 going to speculate, but this is South Parade in Auburn. 1:34:05.000 --> 1:34:05.080 Ye. 1:34:05.479 --> 1:34:06.679 Look, I've had to look at some of the vision 1:34:06.720 --> 1:34:09.599 that came from the Channel nine chopper a short time ago, 1:34:09.600 --> 1:34:11.759 and I could see the paramis were working out police everywhere, 1:34:11.800 --> 1:34:14.360 a fruit shop as well, So it's a shopping strip 1:34:14.439 --> 1:34:15.960 that's very busy that time of the afternoon. 1:34:16.000 --> 1:34:18.320 So we'll cover all that throughout the program, all right, 1:34:18.479 --> 1:34:20.960 and spin the wheel and the winter wheel and all 1:34:21.000 --> 1:34:22.120 sorts of other stuff coming up. 1:34:22.160 --> 1:34:23.439 Certainly be giving away lots of money. 1:34:23.479 --> 1:34:25.920 Will you wear the headphones that way for the whole 1:34:25.960 --> 1:34:27.760 show as well? They're upside down for the benefit of 1:34:27.800 --> 1:34:28.200 the listeners. 1:34:28.360 --> 1:34:30.600 The reason that the headphones were upside down is because I. 1:34:30.640 --> 1:34:32.800 Was wearing the hat, right, So no one told me 1:34:32.840 --> 1:34:33.200 about that. 1:34:33.240 --> 1:34:35.679 Hat, and I couldn't put the headphones over the hat, 1:34:35.840 --> 1:34:38.480 that's true. So while spinning the wheel. 1:34:38.320 --> 1:34:40.200 I had kind of suits. You know, I'm not good 1:34:40.240 --> 1:34:42.760 with hats, no, but I think you could be. That's 1:34:42.800 --> 1:34:43.960 got a bit of the ascot about it. 1:34:45.080 --> 1:34:47.519 If it's too classy for the Shire, well it's blue. 1:34:47.960 --> 1:34:48.759 You got the right colors. 1:34:48.800 --> 1:34:52.599 Thanks Clinton, Clinton Maynard and the big forearms coming up 1:34:52.640 --> 1:34:55.360 straight after three o'clock as he spins that wheel one three, 1:34:55.400 --> 1:34:56.439 one eight seven three. 1:35:01.400 --> 1:35:03.240 Let's see what else is happening in the news. Aaron, 1:35:03.280 --> 1:35:03.839 good afternoon. 1:35:03.920 --> 1:35:05.920 Hello there, Michael will As you have just been talking 1:35:05.960 --> 1:35:08.200 about paramedics of Rush to treat three men who have 1:35:08.200 --> 1:35:10.080 been shot at Auburn in a crime the premiere is 1:35:10.160 --> 1:35:13.920 describing as shockingly brazen. A police officer has been shot 1:35:14.000 --> 1:35:16.759 dead in Tasmania. It's claimed he was shot while approaching 1:35:16.760 --> 1:35:20.040 a home in the state's northwest. One person's been arrested. 1:35:20.400 --> 1:35:22.840 US President Donald Trump says he believes there's a good 1:35:22.960 --> 1:35:26.160 chance there'll be a deal between Israel and Iran, although 1:35:26.200 --> 1:35:29.799 missiles are still firing between the two countries. And finalists 1:35:29.840 --> 1:35:31.960 for the Logis have been announced for the top award, 1:35:32.080 --> 1:35:35.360 the Gold Logi for Most Popular TV Personality. There are 1:35:35.680 --> 1:35:38.400 six women and one man. In sport, the Blues have 1:35:38.439 --> 1:35:40.719 trained in Perth ahead of wednesday nights State of Origin 1:35:40.800 --> 1:35:43.320 two watching on from the sidelines for all Western Australian 1:35:43.360 --> 1:35:46.519 cricket legends Mike Cussie and Justin Langer. And there'll be 1:35:46.600 --> 1:35:47.519 more news at three. 1:35:47.400 --> 1:35:49.440 O'clock on afternoons. 1:35:49.720 --> 1:35:53.599 A finance update for Pretzel Wealth and Finance for Trusted 1:35:53.680 --> 1:35:56.799 Financial Planning Just Google Blake went to Pretzel. 1:35:56.880 --> 1:35:58.639 All right, let's cross to Scott Phillis from the Motley 1:35:58.880 --> 1:36:01.960 full dot com dot Monday. Those are the numbers, Scott 1:36:02.040 --> 1:36:04.920 good afternoon. Two big players in the furniture market, Freedom 1:36:04.960 --> 1:36:05.519 and Amart. 1:36:05.600 --> 1:36:09.360 They've merged, have they, Michael will Good Afternoon, Yeah, pretty much. 1:36:09.479 --> 1:36:09.519 So. 1:36:09.840 --> 1:36:12.559 These were both businesses still one still is owned by 1:36:12.640 --> 1:36:16.000 private equity, and there was suspicion or reporting anyway that 1:36:16.080 --> 1:36:18.120 they would try and list on the ASX over the 1:36:18.160 --> 1:36:21.200 next twelve months or so. Now listing an individual smaller 1:36:21.240 --> 1:36:23.839 one is one thing. If you can combine both businesses, 1:36:23.840 --> 1:36:26.720 and in this case Amar's bought Freedom Furniture, you're going 1:36:26.760 --> 1:36:28.679 to run them together. Now one hundred and twenty six 1:36:28.840 --> 1:36:31.120 stores in total, more than one hundred million dollars an 1:36:31.120 --> 1:36:34.439 annual learnings. That's pretty much a large enough chunk then 1:36:34.479 --> 1:36:37.200 to be listed on the ASX with some decent amount 1:36:37.240 --> 1:36:39.320 of heft. Of of course, there some competition as well 1:36:39.360 --> 1:36:42.320 from those otherwise might be why one might cannibalize the other. 1:36:42.680 --> 1:36:44.840 So yeah, really really ching times. Of course, you know, 1:36:44.960 --> 1:36:48.120 virgin is coming onto the ASEX next week, maybe Freedom 1:36:48.120 --> 1:36:50.080 and Amart not too far away. At this stage at 1:36:50.160 --> 1:36:53.439 least they're running them both as separate brands. Whether that 1:36:53.560 --> 1:36:56.080 remains the case up listing as an open question, but yes, 1:36:56.160 --> 1:36:58.800 potentially another retil of the furniture retailer. Listen on the 1:36:58.840 --> 1:37:01.880 ASX in Duke course, interesting too when you think about 1:37:01.920 --> 1:37:04.600 the growth of businesses like Temple and Webster. They are 1:37:04.640 --> 1:37:07.240 an online only furniture retailer and they are growing at 1:37:07.240 --> 1:37:09.880 an absolute rate of knots. So yeah, interesting times for 1:37:09.920 --> 1:37:12.320 the furniture in general, so their physical furniture and these 1:37:12.360 --> 1:37:15.200 two companies soon possibly listed on the ASEX. 1:37:15.439 --> 1:37:16.639 That will be something to watch. Ok. 1:37:16.760 --> 1:37:18.639 Now, the markets and the dollar, how are they faring 1:37:18.720 --> 1:37:20.559 with everything going on around the world. Of course, oil 1:37:20.600 --> 1:37:22.639 prices will be going north, You've got. 1:37:22.600 --> 1:37:24.240 To say, much better than you'd expect. By the way, Hey, 1:37:24.280 --> 1:37:26.360 the energy sector on the ASEX up five and a 1:37:26.439 --> 1:37:29.120 half percent today, and we say energy, you can substitute 1:37:29.120 --> 1:37:31.560 oil and no surprise there. The overall market up a 1:37:31.640 --> 1:37:34.080 tenth of one percent, despite the fact the futures were 1:37:34.120 --> 1:37:36.439 down this morning. The ASEX of the all Lord's currently 1:37:36.520 --> 1:37:39.400 eighty seven hundred and seventy seven points, the only dollar 1:37:39.479 --> 1:37:41.840 going backwards by about the same margin half a tenth 1:37:41.920 --> 1:37:44.320 of one percent against the US dollar sixty four point 1:37:44.360 --> 1:37:45.200 eight to us. 1:37:45.600 --> 1:37:46.439 All right, Scott, thank you. 1:37:46.520 --> 1:37:49.679 Scott Phillips there from the Motley Fullfull dot com dot 1:37:49.760 --> 1:37:51.880 au on the people that do take away a lot 1:37:51.920 --> 1:37:54.439 because they're too tired to cook. An interesting note from 1:37:54.520 --> 1:37:56.960 Mark here, who says, my current neighbors eat take out 1:37:57.040 --> 1:38:02.519 every night as they don't cook. Really, I remember when 1:38:02.560 --> 1:38:05.200 I worked with Brian wilshere this would be going back 1:38:05.280 --> 1:38:08.720 fifteen years at least now, and he was making the 1:38:08.760 --> 1:38:10.560 point back then that in New York there were some 1:38:10.640 --> 1:38:13.240 of these condo apartments or whatever they that were being 1:38:13.280 --> 1:38:16.880 built without a kitchen, and the reason was that people 1:38:16.960 --> 1:38:19.280 they'd have a microwave or something in a cupboard essention 1:38:19.320 --> 1:38:21.759 that had a little sink, but there's no kitchen because 1:38:21.800 --> 1:38:25.240 they just weren't cooking. They whatever they were doing busy 1:38:25.320 --> 1:38:27.280 long jobs or something like that, and they'd go to 1:38:27.320 --> 1:38:29.599 a restaurant or they'd get takeaway or take out whatever 1:38:29.600 --> 1:38:32.040 the Americans call it, every night of the week, and 1:38:32.160 --> 1:38:34.040 so they didn't really have a need for a kitchen 1:38:34.160 --> 1:38:36.240 and all the cupboards and the pantry and the storage 1:38:36.240 --> 1:38:38.519 and all the appliances that go with it. They had 1:38:38.600 --> 1:38:41.320 a little barfridge and a microwave oven and of sink 1:38:41.360 --> 1:38:43.200 and that was sort of that was it a kitchenette 1:38:43.240 --> 1:38:45.679 at best, And I thought, oh, you've got to be joking. Really, 1:38:45.800 --> 1:38:48.280 how can you live without a kitchen? But it seems 1:38:48.320 --> 1:38:53.080 that that sort of mindset is percolating Australia bit by bit. 1:38:54.040 --> 1:38:55.920 I mean, I don't think it's going to catch on. 1:38:57.040 --> 1:38:59.080 I can't really imagine the next episode or season of 1:38:59.160 --> 1:39:02.560 the Block where they don't do a kitchen reveal. But nonetheless, 1:39:03.600 --> 1:39:05.400 there are some people clearly out there that this is 1:39:05.400 --> 1:39:07.559 the way they do business. They must have deep pockets 1:39:07.600 --> 1:39:10.120 and long arms, because there's no way that even if 1:39:10.160 --> 1:39:13.920 you're absolutely exhausted and zonked, it would be cheaper doing 1:39:14.000 --> 1:39:16.760 takeaway every night of the week than cooking at home. 1:39:16.920 --> 1:39:19.559 And then you know, you put in the glass container 1:39:19.640 --> 1:39:22.320 the leftovers for the next day's lunch. That's what I've 1:39:22.320 --> 1:39:24.360 got here, bit of a beef stew from last night. 1:39:24.360 --> 1:39:26.479 It wasn't bad either. I'll give you the tip heat 1:39:26.520 --> 1:39:29.040 it up later on beautiful. Okay, that's how you do it. 1:39:29.160 --> 1:39:31.800 But look, I just hope these people aren't the ones 1:39:31.840 --> 1:39:33.240 complaining about cost of living pressures. 1:39:33.280 --> 1:39:33.960 That's all I'm saying. 1:39:34.160 --> 1:39:36.080 One three, one, eight, seven three more after the break 1:39:36.200 --> 1:39:37.880 better go twenty one to three just before we get 1:39:37.880 --> 1:39:40.479 to travel on this issue of home security systems and 1:39:40.520 --> 1:39:42.519 the like. I had a text earlier from someone up 1:39:42.560 --> 1:39:44.680 on the Northern Beaches who said, look tomorrow at the 1:39:44.960 --> 1:39:48.760 council meeting on the agenda and the notices of motion, 1:39:48.920 --> 1:39:52.559 there's going to be one of these Palestinian motions put forward. 1:39:52.600 --> 1:39:54.719 It's going to be put forward by the Greens Council 1:39:54.760 --> 1:39:56.800 or one of the Greens councilors, I believe. So you 1:39:56.920 --> 1:40:00.439 look at the agenda for tomorrow under the point fourteen 1:40:01.240 --> 1:40:03.680 notices of motion, the first one is to do with 1:40:03.760 --> 1:40:06.719 tobacco stores and organized crime. Okay, that's kind of relevant 1:40:07.320 --> 1:40:11.320 considering the news of the late of late. There's a 1:40:11.400 --> 1:40:14.720 notion to do with cambora public school. Local council have 1:40:14.840 --> 1:40:17.639 some skin in the game there. But in between those 1:40:18.400 --> 1:40:21.880 there's the notion of notice of motion number twenty four 1:40:21.960 --> 1:40:25.760 slash twenty twenty five, support for the Northern Beaches Palestinian 1:40:25.840 --> 1:40:29.960 community and a cease firing gaza. Well, there has that 1:40:30.040 --> 1:40:32.720 got to do with the Northern Beaches Council. Now I'm 1:40:32.760 --> 1:40:34.120 going to go out on a bit of a limb here. 1:40:34.280 --> 1:40:37.400 I would imagine there's not a huge Palestinian community up 1:40:37.439 --> 1:40:41.080 Avalon Way, but even if there were, they've chosen to 1:40:41.160 --> 1:40:45.680 live there, not on the eastern flank of the Mediterranean Sea. 1:40:46.000 --> 1:40:50.360 So what's this all about? And they're calling for a 1:40:50.479 --> 1:40:55.839 cease firing gars. Now look, you seriously think that passing 1:40:55.920 --> 1:40:59.639 a motion, should it be passed in the Northern Beaches Council, 1:41:00.080 --> 1:41:01.320 it's going to make its way. 1:41:01.160 --> 1:41:04.160 Over to Gaza or to tell a viv where it 1:41:04.240 --> 1:41:04.840 really matters. 1:41:05.680 --> 1:41:08.200 And you Net and Yahu and others go, oh, criky, jeez, Well, 1:41:08.680 --> 1:41:11.280 I know the Americans, the British want this, the Germans 1:41:11.320 --> 1:41:14.040 want this, the Australians want this. You know, the Scandinavians 1:41:14.080 --> 1:41:18.280 want this. But we've resisted. But now the straw that's broken, 1:41:18.320 --> 1:41:20.839 the camel's back the Northern Beaches Council. 1:41:21.840 --> 1:41:27.280 Oh well quick seas far Now, really, who are these pelukas? 1:41:27.439 --> 1:41:30.400 Seriously, I guess you get the councilor as you vote 1:41:30.439 --> 1:41:32.080 for And this is what happens in part when the 1:41:32.160 --> 1:41:34.200 Liberals don't get their act together and put people. 1:41:34.040 --> 1:41:35.120 Up for nomination. 1:41:35.280 --> 1:41:37.519 But I mean, you know this sort of nonsense really 1:41:37.840 --> 1:41:40.920 stick to the Knitting People one three one eight seven three. 1:41:41.520 --> 1:41:44.320 All right, now back to this issue of security. We 1:41:44.400 --> 1:41:46.920 had a lot of feedback about this earlier. I guess 1:41:46.960 --> 1:41:50.240 the question is how protected is your home? I mean, 1:41:50.320 --> 1:41:52.040 do you even give this enough thought? I mean, all 1:41:52.080 --> 1:41:54.519 your assets are there, including your human assets, your family, 1:41:55.240 --> 1:41:58.559 Yet how well protected are they in your home? Your 1:41:58.560 --> 1:42:00.960 home's your castle? Will Have you got the equivalent of 1:42:01.040 --> 1:42:05.680 the moat and the turrets? Do you have security cameras. 1:42:05.600 --> 1:42:07.960 Out the front? If you do, are they effective? Do 1:42:08.000 --> 1:42:09.680 you think they're effective? Do you check? Do you know? 1:42:10.160 --> 1:42:10.280 Well? 1:42:10.320 --> 1:42:13.120 According to the new Southwest Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research, 1:42:13.360 --> 1:42:16.560 the number of break and enter crimes is actually decreased 1:42:16.640 --> 1:42:20.559 on homes by thirty eight percent over the last decade. Now, 1:42:20.720 --> 1:42:23.280 whether that's because we're all sticking these cameras up, left, 1:42:23.320 --> 1:42:26.800 right and center, or whether it's something else, I don't know. 1:42:28.120 --> 1:42:32.120 But according to doctor Alsma Bernaut, a lecturer in Technology 1:42:32.160 --> 1:42:35.600 and crime at Griffith University, the key here is to 1:42:35.760 --> 1:42:38.960 make your home and I quote her here as unattractive 1:42:39.040 --> 1:42:42.120 for the thief as possible. She says, it's good to 1:42:42.160 --> 1:42:43.639 have a fence, it's good to have a dog, it's 1:42:43.680 --> 1:42:46.360 good to have any sort of device that might look 1:42:46.520 --> 1:42:49.120 like a camera, even if it's not. But you know, 1:42:49.280 --> 1:42:52.320 as the technology behind security cameras becomes ever more advanced 1:42:52.360 --> 1:42:54.800 and more complex, it is hard, I think, to know 1:42:55.320 --> 1:42:58.679 what's what, what's worth the extra cost, what works, what doesn't, 1:42:59.080 --> 1:43:02.440 Whether any of these have implications for your own privacy 1:43:02.680 --> 1:43:04.479 and your own security. I mean a lot of this 1:43:04.560 --> 1:43:07.280 stuff's uploaded to the cloud, after all, could it be hacked? 1:43:08.080 --> 1:43:10.720 These are all relevant questions. Trevor Long no stranger to 1:43:10.760 --> 1:43:15.240 this network. He's eftm's editor, technology expert, all around nice guy, 1:43:15.479 --> 1:43:16.960 and he joins me to break it all down. 1:43:17.080 --> 1:43:21.040 Trevor, Good, afternoon, afternoon, Michael. Security cameras. 1:43:21.120 --> 1:43:23.720 I mean, they are sort of becoming kind of ubiquitous now, 1:43:23.800 --> 1:43:25.759 but are they worth the investment? 1:43:26.280 --> 1:43:29.120 Well, I think if you go back ten years or more, 1:43:29.640 --> 1:43:32.719 it used to be quite a large investment and quite 1:43:32.760 --> 1:43:36.240 a complex task. So you would buy something that required 1:43:36.360 --> 1:43:38.799 wiring in the home. You had to get an installer 1:43:38.920 --> 1:43:40.960 to put it in. But today you can walk into 1:43:41.360 --> 1:43:44.479 a major retailer, pick up a camera for a couple 1:43:44.640 --> 1:43:48.000 hundred dollars and get home and have it working on 1:43:48.160 --> 1:43:51.560 your smartphone, giving you alerts and recording vision via just 1:43:51.680 --> 1:43:55.800 Wi Fi and battery power within minutes. So the fact 1:43:55.840 --> 1:43:59.360 that it's become easy has made it, I think desirable 1:43:59.400 --> 1:44:02.160 to people's grown the market. But I think the last 1:44:02.200 --> 1:44:05.320 time I saw numbers from security camera companies was still 1:44:05.560 --> 1:44:08.280 very very low penetration overall, like twenty or thirty percent 1:44:08.320 --> 1:44:11.720 of home. So there's still a huge potential for more 1:44:11.760 --> 1:44:14.400 people to have security cameras, And I think that kind 1:44:14.400 --> 1:44:16.760 of balance between or do I really need them and 1:44:16.840 --> 1:44:19.360 are they effective? Is the question that most people have. 1:44:20.080 --> 1:44:22.439 This sort of technology has mushroomed, though, has it not, 1:44:22.520 --> 1:44:25.479 Because not only do people have these security cameras fixed 1:44:25.520 --> 1:44:29.479 on the eaves or whatever strategically placed, and whether they're 1:44:29.520 --> 1:44:31.920 capturing images or not. The idea is that there would 1:44:31.960 --> 1:44:34.120 be burglar sees that I don't want to run the risk, 1:44:34.160 --> 1:44:34.840 I'll go next door. 1:44:35.640 --> 1:44:37.400 But it's not just those sort of cameras. 1:44:37.439 --> 1:44:39.400 I mean, we've got these ring door bells, all sorts 1:44:39.400 --> 1:44:41.560 of things now that have cameras built into them. We 1:44:42.120 --> 1:44:44.680 seem to have these eyes on the world everywhere, which 1:44:44.720 --> 1:44:46.240 we didn't have even fifteen years ago. 1:44:47.000 --> 1:44:51.320 It's completely achievable for under a thousand dollars certainly to 1:44:51.479 --> 1:44:55.360 have visual on every corner of the extra of your home. 1:44:55.800 --> 1:44:58.360 And I think that the light is actually one of 1:44:58.400 --> 1:45:00.599 the most important parts of it. And if you walk 1:45:00.680 --> 1:45:03.439 up to my house, once you step on the driveway 1:45:03.520 --> 1:45:05.720 and keep stepping down it, my place lights up like 1:45:05.760 --> 1:45:09.320 the MCG the light after light, because it's a deterrent 1:45:09.520 --> 1:45:12.760 that even the smallest light indicates there's something there that 1:45:12.920 --> 1:45:16.040 detected you. And then a large floodlight comes on. If 1:45:16.120 --> 1:45:17.960 you decide to go all the way to the front door, 1:45:18.280 --> 1:45:21.800 there's another light and another camera there. And while it's 1:45:21.960 --> 1:45:24.840 not going to stop every potential crime from happening, I 1:45:24.880 --> 1:45:27.320 don't even think that, but I do believe that that 1:45:27.520 --> 1:45:31.560 deterrent is enough for certainly the petty crime style to 1:45:32.320 --> 1:45:35.240 have diminished in most of the communities around the place. 1:45:35.720 --> 1:45:37.479 You know, if you're the house in the street with 1:45:37.600 --> 1:45:40.360 the cameras and the three around you are not. I 1:45:40.520 --> 1:45:42.519 do think that those other homes are the ones that 1:45:42.600 --> 1:45:43.439 are going to be targeted. 1:45:43.800 --> 1:45:45.000 Well, there at a disadvantage. 1:45:45.120 --> 1:45:47.559 I mean, you're not the insurance expert, you're the tech expert, 1:45:47.640 --> 1:45:49.840 But do you have any idea whether the insurance companies 1:45:49.920 --> 1:45:53.680 through home and contents policies are asking or reflecting on 1:45:53.800 --> 1:45:58.280 this technology being rolled out and adjusting premiums accordingly for those. 1:45:58.120 --> 1:45:58.960 That invest in this. 1:45:59.760 --> 1:46:03.799 I've never had an insurance company ask me for that information, 1:46:03.920 --> 1:46:07.000 so whether I've got security cameras, but I have had 1:46:07.120 --> 1:46:09.920 someone ask me to come and help them with security 1:46:09.960 --> 1:46:13.639 cameras because their insurance broker was what they said, had 1:46:13.720 --> 1:46:16.080 got them a better deal based on that. So it 1:46:16.200 --> 1:46:18.360 may exist in the market, it may not be for 1:46:18.600 --> 1:46:21.960 your average every day home and contents plan. But again, 1:46:22.439 --> 1:46:24.599 it's kind of one of those things where the reason 1:46:24.680 --> 1:46:26.840 I would argue the insurance aren't going to do that 1:46:27.320 --> 1:46:30.240 is because they can't guarantee that you bothered to charge 1:46:30.280 --> 1:46:32.080 the batteries on it. So even though you said you 1:46:32.200 --> 1:46:34.800 had cameras, did you change the battery on it after 1:46:34.880 --> 1:46:37.519 three to six months? And are you maintaining them? Is 1:46:37.560 --> 1:46:41.120 it always recording? There's a lot of variabilities around these cameras. 1:46:41.360 --> 1:46:45.280 They're not all constantly recording like a security camera of old. 1:46:45.680 --> 1:46:46.040 No, they're not. 1:46:46.800 --> 1:46:49.320 A number of them are now hardwired in electricians I 1:46:49.400 --> 1:46:51.400 spoken to say that they're doing this all the time, 1:46:51.920 --> 1:46:52.880 that this kind of work. 1:46:53.520 --> 1:46:56.639 The battery operated ones created this surge in the market. 1:46:56.720 --> 1:46:58.720 Then I'm a huge advocate for them because I love 1:46:58.760 --> 1:47:01.200 the fact that people have that kind of just piece 1:47:01.240 --> 1:47:04.040 of minded vision. But in the last twelve to eighteen months, 1:47:04.400 --> 1:47:06.840 some brands like Allow and Indi then have come out 1:47:07.200 --> 1:47:09.280 and an even ring who do those video doorbells have 1:47:09.400 --> 1:47:12.120 come out with wired versions. You do need to spark 1:47:12.160 --> 1:47:15.200 you to install, yes, but because they're hardwired, because they're 1:47:15.240 --> 1:47:19.320 constantly powered, they are able to constantly send vision back. 1:47:19.400 --> 1:47:23.559 So that is an advantage to the hard powered versions 1:47:23.600 --> 1:47:24.280 of these cameras. 1:47:24.880 --> 1:47:26.640 Let's look at this the flip side, because there's an 1:47:26.640 --> 1:47:28.880 almost an irony baked in here that some people having 1:47:28.920 --> 1:47:31.240 put security cameras in too concerned that their own security 1:47:31.240 --> 1:47:33.759 and privacy has been compromised if these things are running 1:47:33.960 --> 1:47:37.000 twenty four seven, and indeed people don't sometimes just have 1:47:37.120 --> 1:47:39.680 them outside. People have got sort of cameras inside the house, 1:47:39.680 --> 1:47:41.880 should the baby sit to be there or whatever's going on. 1:47:43.200 --> 1:47:45.800 I mean, there's privacy issues are plenty there. 1:47:45.840 --> 1:47:50.800 But equally, how open is this sort of technology to 1:47:51.200 --> 1:47:52.559 nefarious actors and hackers? 1:47:52.600 --> 1:47:54.720 Because a lot of this is going up to the cloud. 1:47:54.520 --> 1:47:56.840 Isn't it Essentially, no one is going to tell you 1:47:57.000 --> 1:48:01.080 that any any concept, any technology is one hundred percent foolproof. 1:48:01.280 --> 1:48:02.920 I'd be mad to say That'd be like, you know, 1:48:02.960 --> 1:48:05.080 a telco saying there's no chance their network's going to 1:48:05.120 --> 1:48:07.240 go down. We all know it can and will happen. 1:48:07.680 --> 1:48:11.639 So I would argue that my philosophy here is big brand, 1:48:11.960 --> 1:48:14.439 major retail. If you're this is, this is, and I've 1:48:14.439 --> 1:48:16.439 always got another tangent. But it's like the electric scooter 1:48:16.840 --> 1:48:20.000 battery issues. Right, if you're buying these things on Ali 1:48:20.120 --> 1:48:23.080 Barba on the internet and buy a Team Wu from China, 1:48:23.600 --> 1:48:25.920 I cannot guarantee the battery on those things. I think 1:48:25.960 --> 1:48:28.160 it's the same with security cameras. If you're going for 1:48:28.240 --> 1:48:31.160 the lowest common denominator in price, you're going for some 1:48:31.640 --> 1:48:34.240 you know, a two bit operation that's just started up 1:48:34.240 --> 1:48:37.240 and they're selling things via Instagram because they found that 1:48:37.280 --> 1:48:39.080 they can import a thousand cameras and sell them for 1:48:39.120 --> 1:48:42.679 one hundred bucks each. Sorry, they don't have the corporate 1:48:42.760 --> 1:48:46.040 backing the security credentials. That are big brands, and you 1:48:46.120 --> 1:48:48.080 know there are really only a few, and when you 1:48:48.160 --> 1:48:50.519 go into a JBS or a Harvey's, you see ah Low, 1:48:50.600 --> 1:48:52.800 you see unid M, you see Swan, you see Ring. 1:48:53.080 --> 1:48:55.519 These are brands that even people listening right now that 1:48:55.720 --> 1:48:58.680 don't have these cameras may well recognize. 1:48:59.080 --> 1:48:59.240 You know. 1:48:59.320 --> 1:49:02.920 For me, a W record brand doesn't guarantee safety and security, 1:49:02.960 --> 1:49:05.880 but it certainly says that they have the credentials and 1:49:06.000 --> 1:49:09.760 the business backing to have security at front of mind. 1:49:10.240 --> 1:49:13.360 Okay, just finally, then, from a psychological point of view, 1:49:13.640 --> 1:49:16.240 I mean, what's going on here? Because I mean, is 1:49:16.320 --> 1:49:20.080 it I go back to my grandparents generation and I 1:49:20.080 --> 1:49:22.080 don't want to dwell in the past, although I'm known 1:49:22.120 --> 1:49:24.599 for doing that as you know. But you know, old 1:49:24.720 --> 1:49:26.800 Arnie Grace would sleep on the front veranda in the 1:49:26.840 --> 1:49:30.080 Inner West with no more than a mosquito net over right. 1:49:30.120 --> 1:49:32.519 You know, these days hardly I don't think there'd be 1:49:32.560 --> 1:49:34.920 anyone listening now that wouldn't lock the front door, bolt 1:49:34.960 --> 1:49:36.720 the windows, whatever, even in. 1:49:36.760 --> 1:49:37.679 A posh suburb. 1:49:37.840 --> 1:49:41.960 So what is going on here with this increasing desire 1:49:42.000 --> 1:49:45.439 for people to turn the external, the externality of their 1:49:45.479 --> 1:49:48.040 properties into something looks like pentridge. 1:49:49.080 --> 1:49:52.240 Well, I mean, it's it's about protecting that most valuable 1:49:52.280 --> 1:49:53.760 asset and the things inside it. As you said in 1:49:53.800 --> 1:49:56.479 your intro. Everything in your home is precious to you, 1:49:56.560 --> 1:49:58.560 whether it's the keys to the car and in the 1:49:58.600 --> 1:50:03.040 garage or the family heirlooms. You want to have that protection. 1:50:03.160 --> 1:50:06.040 And if that protection is now easier and more more 1:50:06.080 --> 1:50:09.960 readily available, why not take it? You know, lock the door, 1:50:10.280 --> 1:50:13.920 lock the windows, and arm the security cameras. Again, go 1:50:14.040 --> 1:50:15.920 back to my childhood, and you remember you used to 1:50:15.920 --> 1:50:17.679 have friends that might have had a bigger, fancy house, 1:50:17.720 --> 1:50:20.000 and inside they had they had the pin code, you know, 1:50:20.040 --> 1:50:22.120 to keep it. I never had one of those security 1:50:22.200 --> 1:50:24.800 systems at my house, but now when I leave the home, 1:50:25.080 --> 1:50:26.680 I can open an app on my phone and go 1:50:27.439 --> 1:50:29.479 the arm the system. It can be it can be 1:50:29.560 --> 1:50:31.280 done on a schedule, it can be done automatically. But 1:50:31.360 --> 1:50:33.760 I can also, for peace of mind, go yeap arm 1:50:33.840 --> 1:50:36.679 the system. And so I know that at the very least, 1:50:36.720 --> 1:50:39.760 if someone does get in, grab something and leave, I've 1:50:39.840 --> 1:50:42.200 got a vision of them on many angles, and I'll 1:50:42.200 --> 1:50:43.760 feel at least a little bit better that I can 1:50:43.760 --> 1:50:46.720 say to the police. Hopefully this helps you, and I 1:50:46.760 --> 1:50:48.040 don't know, you just feel better about it. 1:50:48.360 --> 1:50:50.320 I know in our area we get all these Facebook groups, 1:50:50.360 --> 1:50:53.879 community groups and They're forever posting stills from their security 1:50:53.920 --> 1:50:56.680 cameras about young guys trying to knock the car off 1:50:56.760 --> 1:50:58.479 or steal something from the veranda or whatever. 1:50:58.520 --> 1:51:01.280 So that's that EMA is now being used, and that 1:51:01.439 --> 1:51:02.760 wasn't available without the. 1:51:02.800 --> 1:51:03.479 Camera I've seen. 1:51:03.520 --> 1:51:06.960 I've seen local shops that have shared photos from very 1:51:06.960 --> 1:51:09.800 simple security cameras as well in those groups. And that's 1:51:09.840 --> 1:51:12.479 why I say again the flood light style camera. Again, 1:51:12.560 --> 1:51:15.759 go back to our childhood and remember the old floodlight 1:51:15.800 --> 1:51:19.400 would come on sensor based. Well, now imagine that floodlight 1:51:19.479 --> 1:51:21.280 has a camera in it. So not only do you 1:51:21.360 --> 1:51:23.680 get the oh, here's light for me when I get 1:51:23.680 --> 1:51:26.160 home at safety, but here's light for that person coming 1:51:26.400 --> 1:51:29.160 in one am in the morning just sussing out my home, 1:51:29.280 --> 1:51:31.439 going to peek through the windows. No, no, I've got 1:51:31.520 --> 1:51:34.880 you on camera in color. Don't even knock on the door, buddy. 1:51:35.000 --> 1:51:37.720 Yeah, just make sure you smile, all right. Trevor, thank you, 1:51:38.040 --> 1:51:38.679 good information. 1:51:38.720 --> 1:51:40.479 Appreciate it a lot of the best terror Trevor long 1:51:40.520 --> 1:51:43.639 there tech guru, We love him, of course. The editor 1:51:43.680 --> 1:51:46.280 of e FtM. I don't know, you might be one 1:51:46.320 --> 1:51:48.439 of these camera people. All of a sudden do you 1:51:48.479 --> 1:51:51.519 feel safer? Is it sort of just psychologically you feel safer. 1:51:52.080 --> 1:51:54.559 A few people saying, read the insurance thing. It depends 1:51:54.600 --> 1:51:56.600 who you ask. Someone here said they were with you 1:51:56.760 --> 1:51:59.080 or they switched to UI because in fact they asked them, 1:51:59.400 --> 1:52:00.439 do you have cam Yes? 1:52:00.520 --> 1:52:03.080 Okay, Well here's the reduction. That's what I'm gleaning out 1:52:03.120 --> 1:52:04.400 of that text. Hope I've got that right. 1:52:05.000 --> 1:52:07.559 Someone else says they might give you a reduction if 1:52:07.640 --> 1:52:11.080 the cameras are linked to a back to base alarm 1:52:11.240 --> 1:52:12.160 sort of system. 1:52:13.520 --> 1:52:14.920 So you just got to look at all of the 1:52:14.960 --> 1:52:17.280 fine print. But it is interesting. I would have thought 1:52:17.320 --> 1:52:18.360 that a lot of the security of. 1:52:18.400 --> 1:52:21.840 The insurance companies would have rewarded people that invested in this, 1:52:22.080 --> 1:52:25.360 but maybe only if it does have the back to 1:52:25.439 --> 1:52:29.120 based componentory. It is seven minutes to three, okay for 1:52:29.200 --> 1:52:31.840 training commuters. It doesn't rain at pause. This just threw 1:52:31.960 --> 1:52:35.759 from the Transport Management Center. No trains running between Hurstville 1:52:35.840 --> 1:52:38.280 and Sutherland on the T four so is due to 1:52:38.439 --> 1:52:42.360 power supply issues between Walley Creek and Sutherland. Now replacement 1:52:42.400 --> 1:52:45.880 buses have been requested, but I see they haven't started running. 1:52:46.520 --> 1:52:48.400 Just to repeat, no trains are running at the moment 1:52:48.479 --> 1:52:51.479 between Hurstville and subtle And on the T four. That's 1:52:51.560 --> 1:52:54.479 due to power supply issues between Walley Creek and Subtherland. 1:52:54.520 --> 1:52:58.439 The replacement buses not yet ready. We've had this shooting 1:52:58.479 --> 1:53:01.559 earlier this afternoon. Also out of a statement just threw 1:53:01.640 --> 1:53:04.639 from the Police Minister Yasmud Catley that says we're deeply 1:53:04.720 --> 1:53:07.959 concerned by the horrifying events unfolding in Auban this afternoon. 1:53:08.360 --> 1:53:11.080 Multiple people have been injured in this public place shooting. 1:53:11.400 --> 1:53:13.640 Our thoughts are with them and their loved ones. This 1:53:13.800 --> 1:53:16.560 kind of violence has no place in our community. It's horrifying, 1:53:16.680 --> 1:53:19.560 it's unacceptable, and it shakes the sense of safety that 1:53:19.680 --> 1:53:20.479 we all deserve. 1:53:20.880 --> 1:53:23.400 Well, that's it for us, of course, Clinton coming up next. 1:53:23.479 --> 1:53:26.320 Don't forget the winter Wheel Lots of wonderful prizes on 1:53:26.320 --> 1:53:29.080 the largest to repeat quickly. No trains running between Hurstville 1:53:29.120 --> 1:53:31.960 and Subtland on the T four. Those replacement buses have 1:53:32.080 --> 1:53:32.799 been requested.