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Speaker 2: This is Afternoons with Michael McLaren.
Speaker 1: Well, it is good afternoon. Thank you. Let's get another
Speaker 1: week underway, shall we.
Speaker 3: It is June sixteen, that must be, and it's a Monday,
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Speaker 1: It's beautiful outside. It's cold, but it's it's a very
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Speaker 3: And that thunderstorm that rolled through it about was about
Speaker 3: twenty to six last night where I was. That came
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Speaker 3: the moment. One eye on what's happening in the Middle East,
Speaker 3: one eye domestically, the Prime ministers in Canada for the
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Speaker 3: and of course all sorts of other stuff going on.
Speaker 1: We need a lot of eyes.
Speaker 3: We're across it all for you, and we'll do our
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Speaker 3: we tag team with Clinton. In the middle of all
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Speaker 3: Later in the program, after one o'clock, I want to
Speaker 3: catch up with Matt Kochin now. Matt is the CEO
Speaker 3: of Members Health Fund Alliance, and the message is pretty simple,
Speaker 3: although it is a timely reminder that those of us
Speaker 3: with private health should be utilizing our health insurance extras
Speaker 3: before the end of the financial year. I'm as guilty
Speaker 3: as probably most of you having some sort of level
Speaker 3: of cover, and it comes with certain extras, and we've
Speaker 3: been pretty careful to try to limit those because we
Speaker 3: know we're not going to use them, so why pay
Speaker 3: for them. But you tend to get some lumped in
Speaker 3: with whatever package you want these days because the health
Speaker 3: insurance know that you'll pay and not use it, and
Speaker 3: that helps their bottom line.
Speaker 1: So that's the business model, right.
Speaker 3: But nonetheless, there is a way to try to get
Speaker 3: some bang for your buck, and that is to use
Speaker 3: them but for optical or dental or something to do
Speaker 3: for hearing or whatever it is. So a bit of
Speaker 3: a reminder of some of the tips and the traps
Speaker 3: and the ideas, Matt will give us those after one o'clock.
Speaker 3: In that same hour, Trent Nikolach will be back with
Speaker 3: us from Drive the best in the business, Trent drive
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Speaker 3: the great man travel Long no stranger to the program,
Speaker 3: but he'll be with us in the final hour and
Speaker 3: I'll ask him a couple of questions about these home
Speaker 3: security systems which are proliferating like mushrooms in the suburbs.
Speaker 3: A lot of people now have a video security system
Speaker 3: in their home or on the outside of their home,
Speaker 3: some of them inside the home, and we know why.
Speaker 3: It's a preventative. The theory is that the burglar comes
Speaker 3: to the front door or wherever they they see the
Speaker 3: camera and think.
Speaker 1: Oh, maybe I'll try next door.
Speaker 3: And in a number of cases, I'm sure it works
Speaker 3: that way, but not in all. And there are some
Speaker 3: risks of having these systems, many of which are now
Speaker 3: connected to the cloud.
Speaker 1: There are some security risks, some privacy risks. Will outline
Speaker 1: all of those.
Speaker 3: I know that in Queensland the police put together like
Speaker 3: a whole cheat sheet effectively for what homeowners should be
Speaker 3: doing to secure their properties. And in Queensland you've got
Speaker 3: youth crime and the whole thing's a mess. Right, they're
Speaker 3: doing something about it. But this would have instigated a
Speaker 3: lot of people saying, listen, honey, maybe we should just
Speaker 3: go and buy one of these systems.
Speaker 1: We keep hearing about it.
Speaker 3: Can't do any harm, and I think on balance that's right.
Speaker 3: But the police say, look, there's a whole lot of
Speaker 3: things you should be doing, essentially before you go and
Speaker 3: get the camera. So we'll look at all of that,
Speaker 3: and I'd be interested just how many of you out
Speaker 3: there in listener land do have cameras now as part
Speaker 3: of your home security arsenal? You know, when I grew
Speaker 3: up a lot of people having an alarm system, and yeah,
Speaker 3: the threshold was breached and off it went, and that
Speaker 3: was it. And you put a lock on your front
Speaker 3: door and your back door, and maybe a couple of
Speaker 3: deadlocks on the windows if you're in a bad area,
Speaker 3: and that was sort of that was it. Some people
Speaker 3: had a dog, you know, the thing on the gate,
Speaker 3: Beware of the dog, the chihah.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: But now it's all very sophisticated. I mean, you can
Speaker 3: pick these things up at Bunnings, so I guess a
Speaker 3: lot of people have invested in them. But you know,
Speaker 3: there's good ones and bad ones. So we'll speak to
Speaker 3: Trevor about all of that. We've got track of the day,
Speaker 3: We've got everything coming your way to stay with us.
Speaker 3: One three, one eight seven three right on quarter pass twelve,
Speaker 3: we'll look on Friday. Israel decided to strike a run,
Speaker 3: decisively and hard. In a set of precision attacks months
Speaker 3: in the planning and involving agents on the ground behind
Speaker 3: enemy lines. They hit nuclear facilities missile silos and intelligence
Speaker 3: hubs in the dead of night, and really one of
Speaker 3: the most incredible military operations of modern times. Now, in
Speaker 3: the days that have followed, both sides have been trading blows.
Speaker 3: Araun just a matter of minutes ago hit an energy
Speaker 3: installation in Haifa in Israel, so it's going tit for tat.
Speaker 3: But despite those few Iranian missiles that have hit their target,
Speaker 3: there is no doubt the Israelis are in the ascendency,
Speaker 3: and their intelligence services and technical capability are clearly superior.
Speaker 3: But I've got to say I am a bit shocked
Speaker 3: by just how many people have said to me that
Speaker 3: they're surprised that the Israelis have done what they've done
Speaker 3: at this time. I mean, clearly, too many people have
Speaker 3: failed to put themselves in Jerusalem shoes and to see
Speaker 3: the geostrategic situation from their perspective, because it's only when
Speaker 3: you do that that you appreciate why now is the
Speaker 3: obvious time to hit Iran and it's rapidly developing nuclear program.
Speaker 3: Now in short, with Hezbollah and Hamas badly depleted, the
Speaker 3: hooths weakened in Yemen and a sad now out of Syria,
Speaker 3: Iran's ford flank, their buffer zone, as it were, appears
Speaker 3: impotent for the first time in decades. The semi destruction
Speaker 3: opens up the road to Tehran, or perhaps I should
Speaker 3: say the flight path to Tehran for Israel to exploit.
Speaker 3: Now no doubt Israeli leaning into that old sporting analogy,
Speaker 3: namely that offense is the best form of defense. And
Speaker 3: having watched the eye told as men continue to develop
Speaker 3: their nuclear capability to the point where some say they
Speaker 3: are a matter of weeks away from weaponizing it, should
Speaker 3: they choose The Israelis have struck preemptively to go and
Speaker 3: remove the risk, and it is self defense, but not
Speaker 3: just for Israel's sovereignty, because by weakening Iran's nuclear capacity,
Speaker 3: Israel have actually done the entire Western hemisphere of favor.
Speaker 3: Although in the immediacy of the conflict that might not
Speaker 3: seem clear to everyone just now, but in the long term,
Speaker 3: a badly weakened, non nuclear armed Iran is the key
Speaker 3: to stability in the Middle East. Iran have been the
Speaker 3: puppet masters behind the majority of the turbulence in that
Speaker 3: part of the world, whilst they've of course been feeding
Speaker 3: Putin's war machine on the side and now the regime, well,
Speaker 3: that's in a fight for its own survival. So for
Speaker 3: everyone's sake, and especially that of the people of Iran,
Speaker 3: let's hope it's a fight that that resume loses. Because
Speaker 3: we've got to be clear here, just as criticism of
Speaker 3: China isn't a criticism of the Chinese people, the Israeli
Speaker 3: attacks on Iran shouldn't be interpreted as an attack on
Speaker 3: the Iranian people. They're a strike at the heart of
Speaker 3: the Islamist regime that suffocated those same people since nineteen
Speaker 3: seventy nine. But whether the precision strikes on nuclear facilities
Speaker 3: and key leaders will be enough to incubate a broader
Speaker 3: uprising within Iran against that regime, or whether conversely, it'll
Speaker 3: actually engender a reactive swirl of nationalism, well, I mean
Speaker 3: that's yet to be seen. What comes of this, that's
Speaker 3: yet to be seen, of course, waiting in America, ready
Speaker 3: to return to the peacock throne as the exiled crown prince.
Speaker 3: But with all of that said, I guess many are
Speaker 3: asking what should Australia and Australians learn from recent events?
Speaker 3: Are there lessons from this escalation that we should absorb well,
Speaker 3: in a word, the answer is yes, and the most
Speaker 3: obvious concerns defense. Now, as Australia squabbles over whether to
Speaker 3: spend this percent or that percent of GDP on defense,
Speaker 3: we're really wasting valuable time not debating the real question,
Speaker 3: which is this, what do we need to spend to
Speaker 3: have the ability to become the military porcupine of Southeast Asia?
Speaker 3: In other words, what kit do we need to acquire,
Speaker 3: what capabilities so that any potential adversary will think twice
Speaker 3: about striking us because of the damage doing that would
Speaker 3: cause to them. Now, like the porcupine, sure a big
Speaker 3: hand could grab it and hurt it, but not without
Speaker 3: serious consequences. That's got to be the Australian mindset, and
Speaker 3: that's been That's got to be our vision, it was
Speaker 3: Israel's vision. And whether that means spending two and a
Speaker 3: half or three or three and a half percent of GDP,
Speaker 3: that's secondary. You need the vision and accompanying blueprint first.
Speaker 3: But the other issue we've got to immediately face, I
Speaker 3: think concerns internal cohesion here now, at this time, it
Speaker 3: is crucial that our political and policing figures get on
Speaker 3: the front foot and remind Australians that people among us
Speaker 3: who happen to be Jewish are not to be treated
Speaker 3: as the personification of the state of Israel. They are
Speaker 3: not fair game to be abused, attacked, or ostrastized because
Speaker 3: of their shared faith with that nation state. And no doubt,
Speaker 3: the weekly street protests are about to werve back into
Speaker 3: action following Israel's latest escalation. And as I've always said,
Speaker 3: responsible protest is an intrinsic element of our democratic system.
Speaker 3: But I'd ask those marching against Israel to spare just
Speaker 3: a moment to consider what Iran is at present and
Speaker 3: what it could be if the Iotola and his crew
Speaker 3: were to step aside. Indeed, what the whole Middle East
Speaker 3: could be if that were to happen. To imagine what
Speaker 3: might be possible if Iran were to abandon any nuclear
Speaker 3: ambitions that they may harbor. You see, the Iranian people
Speaker 3: have a great and proud history, but it's being squandered
Speaker 3: and suppressed by a hard line Islamic theocracy. And none
Speaker 3: of this is to say that Israel is perfect, or
Speaker 3: that it doesn't have hard line nationalists within its own government,
Speaker 3: none of that. But those who can't comprehend why they've
Speaker 3: hit Iran in this way at this time, need to
Speaker 3: put themselves in Jerusalem's shoes twenty four past twelve right
Speaker 3: on the dot. The reason I use those last words
Speaker 3: there just to try to ask that people just take
Speaker 3: some perspective of what's happening here and not to target
Speaker 3: Jewish Australians as the personification of Israel. I mean, you
Speaker 3: can think whatever you want about Israe, you can think
Speaker 3: whatever you want about a nation state, but you don't
Speaker 3: go and target people who might share a common faith
Speaker 3: with the majority of people in those countries as oh
Speaker 3: well they're fair game. That's not what you do. We've
Speaker 3: seen too much of it and it's wrong. I fear
Speaker 3: that we're going to see more of this again. The
Speaker 3: pro Palestine marches have quiet and down recently in the
Speaker 3: rest of it, but I think it's all going to
Speaker 3: wherr back up. And the reason I think that is
Speaker 3: just seeing what's happening around the world, you know, and
Speaker 3: we tend to follow the trend. In the United Kingdom
Speaker 3: over the weekend there were big pro Palestine marches in
Speaker 3: London where the people were chanting stop bombing Iran. So
Speaker 3: they're conflating the whole thing, right, But you know, I
Speaker 3: would urge those people even if they've got family in Iran.
Speaker 3: I understand no one wants to see another nation state
Speaker 3: bomb some other state, but they're going to understand why
Speaker 3: it's happening and instead of going out there saying, oh,
Speaker 3: don't bomb Iran. As if the Iranian people are being targeted.
Speaker 3: The chances are a lot of these people are living
Speaker 3: in London because they couldn't make a go of it
Speaker 3: living under the.
Speaker 1: Iotolers in Iran.
Speaker 3: There's a reason why the professional class largely has gone
Speaker 3: abroad because there's not much hope for them in Iran.
Speaker 3: And so really, you know, rational people would be hoping
Speaker 3: that maybe these bombing and targeting the nuclear facilities, the
Speaker 3: energy facilities, the leading generals and intelligence chiefs and military
Speaker 3: types within the Itoler's regime will be the spark that
Speaker 3: can create the uprising to find the get rid of
Speaker 3: the Iotoler's regime which have wreaked havoc on Iran since
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy nine. There is a better future over the
Speaker 3: horizon if they do it. So I just wonder whether
Speaker 3: these people in Western cities that go out protesting in
Speaker 3: favor of Iran think before they do it, or is
Speaker 3: this some sort of just muscle memory thing that goes
Speaker 3: on some just obvious reaction that they think they have
Speaker 3: to do. And as for those that have no Iranian
Speaker 3: background but are worried about the bombing of Iran, well,
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, how many of you understand what
Speaker 3: life is like for the Iranian people in Iran? You know,
Speaker 3: I just suspect a lot of people don't think. And
Speaker 3: it's not to say that you have to be a
Speaker 3: champion of the state of Israel to the point of
Speaker 3: being its quasi ambassador, but you know that you've got
Speaker 3: to think about what Iran is like, and what it's
Speaker 3: like for women, what it's like for homosexuals, what it's
Speaker 3: like for people who aren't quote unquote your standard male.
Speaker 3: It's not pleasant and it's not going to change unless
Speaker 3: the regime changes. First three one, eight, seven three. A
Speaker 3: lot of feedback coming through, Thank you for that. A
Speaker 3: lot about the security systems. Funnily enough, Sandra says, how
Speaker 3: ironic that getting a modern security system can itself be
Speaker 3: a security risk. Well, quite right, someone here says home security.
Speaker 3: I'm a bit old school. I still get along and I
Speaker 3: just talk to the neighbors. It's true when you like
Speaker 3: I am and fortunate to live in a part of
Speaker 3: a street where all the neighbors get on and they
Speaker 3: keep an eye out for each other. That is your
Speaker 3: best form of home security. Your eye on holidays, the
Speaker 3: neighbors keep an eye out for you, and they put
Speaker 3: the bins in, put the bins.
Speaker 1: Out, collect the mail.
Speaker 3: That makes it look like there's someone home there, your
Speaker 3: eyes and ears.
Speaker 1: It's the way it used to be.
Speaker 3: That as we all become, not all, but generally, the
Speaker 3: trend is to be less neighborly, less familiar with those
Speaker 3: around you, we sort of retreat into our own little silos.
Speaker 3: Increasingly we're losing a bit of that, and that's sad
Speaker 3: on a number of levels. It's certainly sad on a
Speaker 3: security point of view. James makes a good point with health.
Speaker 3: He says, a tip for the listeners, stop paying for extras.
Speaker 3: You don't need them. They only extras. You can just
Speaker 3: have hospital cover to avoid the hefty tax debts, but
Speaker 3: just get rid of the extra payments and put it
Speaker 3: into a savings account. Keep those amounts going and put
Speaker 3: it in a separate account. And if you need to
Speaker 3: pay for anything so called extra, well you'll have the
Speaker 3: money there set aside to do it for the rainy day.
Speaker 1: It's a pretty good tip. You've just got to be disciplined.
Speaker 3: Sam says, not only do I have an eight camera system,
Speaker 3: wow eight, but I also have a missile defense system
Speaker 3: called a very alert Belgian MALINOIR. I pity the fool
Speaker 3: that sets foot through the door. That's from Sam on
Speaker 3: the Porcupine theory. John says, that's not quite the case.
Speaker 3: We need the Echidneer theory. After all, we're Australian's point taken.
Speaker 5: Good a James, Oh hey you gone, Michael, Well, I'm
Speaker 5: just ringing up. My wife's been talking about this seas.
Speaker 5: My wife's Persian, yep, I'm Iranians, and she's been talking
Speaker 5: about this for years, waiting for the opportunity for the
Speaker 5: people to have some sort of freedom. Every year, on
Speaker 5: an average, six hundred to seven hundred women alone get
Speaker 5: murdered by the government over there, just for basic stuff,
Speaker 5: a bit of hair not in the wrong position or whatever.
Speaker 5: And they pick them up off the streak, they put them.
Speaker 5: They're pushed into a vent and taken away and killed,
Speaker 5: and not just killed, but they're tortured then killed, you know.
Speaker 5: So it's and you don't hear about this on our
Speaker 5: media yet, not one bit of what happens to the
Speaker 5: people in their arm It's atrocious and they've started to
Speaker 5: rise already after the attacks. Israel has helped them a lot.
Speaker 1: To be honest, Well, it could be the catalyst for change.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure we're seeing enough of a groundsworld just yet,
Speaker 3: but maybe it'll come. I think it depends on the
Speaker 3: strength of the Iranian economy.
Speaker 1: I mean, the.
Speaker 3: Israeli targets have been very person They're not just going
Speaker 3: in and bombing neighborhoods or anything like that. They are
Speaker 3: hitting it seems very selective targets and doing it with
Speaker 3: incredible precision. There will be collateral, that's a great tragedy,
Speaker 3: but they do seem very careful at this point as
Speaker 3: to what they're hitting when and how. And if they
Speaker 3: cripple Iran's economy, then that could be the straw that
Speaker 3: breaks the camels back for the iotolers, because without money
Speaker 3: then people will rise up, particularly if they are offered
Speaker 3: a better way by an alternative. Now, whether the alternative
Speaker 3: is the crown Prince who's in exile in the United States,
Speaker 3: he comes back and forms a constitutional monarchy of sorts.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, but what's there at the
Speaker 3: moment isn't working in the best interests of your average Iranian.
Speaker 3: For some men it's great, but for the majority, it's bad.
Speaker 3: And the sanctions and everything else that come with it
Speaker 3: are crippling. And look, I wouldn't be surprised if the
Speaker 3: next targets of the Israelis are the ports in South Iran.
Speaker 3: I mean, if they start hitting the ports, Iran, which
Speaker 3: is a net of a range of essential products, is crippled,
Speaker 3: and if that's what they strike, then you know it
Speaker 3: could be going on over there.
Speaker 1: James, thank you.
Speaker 3: I really appreciate your call and the knowledge there firsthand
Speaker 3: from your wife one three one eight seven three. It's
Speaker 3: twenty seven to one stacks of feedback about the security systems.
Speaker 3: We'll cover all that off for Trevor Long in the
Speaker 3: final hour, but while we're still talking about it, Brett says,
Speaker 3: I recently fitted some dummy cameras.
Speaker 1: At our place.
Speaker 3: While I was putting them up, I noticed the instructions
Speaker 3: on the box which said if this product doesn't meet
Speaker 3: your expectations, please call our helpline.
Speaker 1: Fat lot of good that'll do good on your Brett
Speaker 1: well observed.
Speaker 3: Scotty says, my best mate's a cop, and he says
Speaker 3: there are countless times he's seen footage where it would
Speaker 3: be thief sites.
Speaker 1: A camera turns and leaves.
Speaker 3: Now you know we're in a suburb where you have
Speaker 3: one of these local Facebook groups. I think every suburb's
Speaker 3: now got one of these sort of things, you know,
Speaker 3: friends of whatever suburb Facebook group. It's a bit like
Speaker 3: the digital version of neighborhood Watch and daily because my
Speaker 3: wife shows me all these things daily. There are people
Speaker 3: posting security camera footage from their patio or front door,
Speaker 3: annex or whatever it is of young men dressed in
Speaker 3: a lot of dark clothing milling around at sort of midnight,
Speaker 3: obviously not dropping off meals for wheels. So it can
Speaker 3: come in handy, certainly, I would imagine from a police
Speaker 3: point of view, if they're trying to gather evidence, you said,
Speaker 3: well I've been broken into, and oh, by the way,
Speaker 3: here's the footage, Go and find these dudes. It can
Speaker 3: no doubt come in handy. Diane says, I live in
Speaker 3: a colder sack, and everyone knows and helps and looks
Speaker 3: out for each other.
Speaker 1: It's the only way to live.
Speaker 3: Anthony on the situation they released, says the problem with
Speaker 3: the attack being a catalyst for change, He says, I
Speaker 3: fear a more extreme leader would seize power on the
Speaker 3: back of the anti Israel sentiment.
Speaker 1: Well, there is that concern. That is an option.
Speaker 3: But if the Iranian people were smart, they would go
Speaker 3: in the opposite direction.
Speaker 1: But I guess the ball will be in their courts.
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Speaker 1: Now, just before we take another break.
Speaker 3: That security story, security camera story I was referring to earlier,
Speaker 3: that was by a journalist in the ABC over over
Speaker 3: the weekend or overnight.
Speaker 1: Interesting story.
Speaker 3: Will do with it later, But there was another aspect
Speaker 3: to it that had nothing to do with security, more
Speaker 3: to do with style in the journalistic sense. That caught
Speaker 3: my attention and I wonder. I don't know, Maybe we
Speaker 3: should ask the ABC if this is now their policy.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but there does seem to be a
Speaker 3: secondary aspect of this story, and it goes to the
Speaker 3: way that the journalist describes locations. Let me give you
Speaker 3: an example, paragraph two quote he has four cameras outside
Speaker 3: his unit at Sunshine Auth in Melbourne on Warunjuri country. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: get what I'm getting at here. Later in the story,
Speaker 3: example number two, Alistair Baines manages a company based in
Speaker 3: Warunjuri slash Box Hill, South Victoria. Four paragraphs below that
Speaker 3: as Berneau, a lecturer in Technology and crime at Griffith
Speaker 3: University on com Bameeri Lands slash Gold Coast. And then
Speaker 3: later in the story, Rick Browners, Deputy director at the
Speaker 3: Australian Institute of Criminology at Nunea Wall slash Barton in
Speaker 3: the act, is this now the ABC's policy to indigenize
Speaker 3: place names often before the actual name that we actually
Speaker 3: recognize and know when you punch it into the GBS?
Speaker 1: Or is this just a.
Speaker 3: Journalist doing their own thing and trying to start a trend.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Am I going to lose any sleepover it.
Speaker 3: No, but it's kind of interesting that the national broadcast
Speaker 3: have decided this is what they're going to do.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: I know on SBS when they do the weather at
Speaker 3: about twenty five past seven at the end of their
Speaker 3: SBS news and I watched the It's Good News service,
Speaker 3: But at the end they do all the city names
Speaker 3: in the traditional name Sydney, Melbourne, Canberra or whatever, and
Speaker 3: then they sort of fade in and out and back
Speaker 3: we go and we get all the indigenous names.
Speaker 1: So yeah, what is it? Namas Melbourne?
Speaker 3: And I don't know what Sydney is and the way
Speaker 3: you gominge and I think is Brisbane. And now knowledge
Speaker 3: is power, Okay, so we learn something. Maybe that's all
Speaker 3: it is. But where is this going to head anywhere further?
Speaker 3: Or are we going to Yeah? I see, I just
Speaker 3: think back. Call me a conspiracy theorist. Maybe this is
Speaker 3: the overnights in me coming out seeping through. But years
Speaker 3: and years ago, when you go back to the Sydney Olympics,
Speaker 3: there was a push on by some and it was
Speaker 3: roundly defeated because it was crazy, but there was a
Speaker 3: push on by some to go and rename a lot
Speaker 3: of our landmarks in indigenous names to the point I
Speaker 3: think where the Sydney Harbor Bridge was going to get
Speaker 3: a name. Now, to the best of my knowledge, that
Speaker 3: sort of engineering technology had not existed in Australia prior
Speaker 3: to the arrival of Europeans, so finding the name for
Speaker 3: something like that would have been fascinating. But nonetheless there
Speaker 3: was a bit of a push on for this sort
Speaker 3: of thing, and then it faded away and then it
Speaker 3: comes back. So I don't know. This isn't coming from government,
Speaker 3: but the ABC is an arm of government as the
Speaker 3: national broadcaster.
Speaker 1: I just wonder if this is the new style guide. Now.
Speaker 3: I've been told that in the New South Wales schooling
Speaker 3: system there have been a number of examples in practice
Speaker 3: maths tests and this sort of thing where the problem
Speaker 3: to be solved. Let's say it's a train going from
Speaker 3: point A to point B and you're trying to work
Speaker 3: out the average speed or something. You know, you get
Speaker 3: the numbers, it's an equation, but instead of saying the
Speaker 3: trains going from Hornsby to Tara Maura or something, well,
Speaker 3: Taramara is a bad example because that's an indigenous thud.
Speaker 1: But you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: They give all of these indigenous names, and so maybe
Speaker 3: the children are a bit confused.
Speaker 1: Is this a bad thing? No, I'm not saying it's bad,
Speaker 1: but could it be a little confusing? Yeah, it could be.
Speaker 3: And if this is a deliberate policy to start co
Speaker 3: naming everything, then maybe that should be transparent. Maybe the ABC,
Speaker 3: if this is the Polishes, say yeah, there's what we're doing.
Speaker 1: Okay, fine, I said, I mean, it's fascinating.
Speaker 3: I suppose to a certain extent to understand that the
Speaker 3: gold Coaster is on whatever land or okay, or that
Speaker 3: Barton in the Act is not a wall. I mean,
Speaker 3: I didn't know that. Do I need to know it?
Speaker 3: Probably not. But there again, there's a lot about what
Speaker 3: we learn in history classes. We don't really need to know,
Speaker 3: but we learn it, and it adds to the body
Speaker 3: of No. But I just wonder if this is sort
Speaker 3: of being brought in via stealth, or if this is
Speaker 3: a deliberate policy, or as I said, this is just
Speaker 3: a journal going on a frolic. I don't know, but
Speaker 3: you might have noticed this in some other places.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 3: Ben was running that story last week about the Gosford
Speaker 3: Hospital where the emergency room is being translated as sick
Speaker 3: cave in the local Indigenous language. I think the rationale
Speaker 3: is to make Indigenous people feel more welcome or something
Speaker 3: like that when they attend the emergency I didn't know
Speaker 3: they didn't feel welcome in the first place.
Speaker 1: But it does seem a little bit.
Speaker 3: Forced, doesn't it. You know, Okay, emergency room, sick cave.
Speaker 3: We get the connection. But before modern hospital and medical
Speaker 3: equipment arrived in Australia or was developed in Australia, these
Speaker 3: concepts weren't known. So we're sort of making it up
Speaker 3: a bit. I think they're trying to square pegs in
Speaker 3: round holes. And whether it adds to the sum total
Speaker 3: of knowledge, I don't know. You might have a thought
Speaker 3: on that one three, one eight seven three it's quarter
Speaker 3: to one. Just on the dual naming policy of SLASH.
Speaker 3: Is it a policy, We don't know. We're seeking clarification,
Speaker 3: but it'd be fascinating if that then seeps through every
Speaker 3: aspect of government.
Speaker 1: I suspect it will.
Speaker 3: I think we're just seeing the opening salvo as it
Speaker 3: were here, because imagine when the RMS get hold of this.
Speaker 3: If the street signs aren't confusing enough already, imagine driving
Speaker 3: up Victoria Roads slash whatever the traditional name is, because
Speaker 3: you know, like, okay, Paramatter Roads a bit of a
Speaker 3: confusing example, because paramatter is an anglicized version of borrow matter,
Speaker 3: I think, which is the Indigenous word for the place
Speaker 3: where the eels meet, or words to that effect. Hence
Speaker 3: the paramatter eels and all the rest. But that route
Speaker 3: between where the Colony of Sydney was and the governmental
Speaker 3: center out at Paramatter or Camellia rose Hill as it was,
Speaker 3: that I think was also a fairly well trodden traditional
Speaker 3: Indigenous route. So there may in fact be a kind
Speaker 3: of name that could be applied to that particular track,
Speaker 3: as it were. But beyond that it could be a
Speaker 3: little confusing. But let's just see what happens, could I rod?
Speaker 4: I'm just scringing about the indigenous doings on the ABC.
Speaker 1: Yes, they have.
Speaker 4: A welcome to country before the football course every weekend
Speaker 4: on the radio and on the radio, Welcome to Country,
Speaker 4: Welcome to the grounds that this game has been played on.
Speaker 4: All this sort of garbage. There's been three this year
Speaker 4: from New Zealand and they still do a welcome to
Speaker 4: country and the games in New Zealand.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's interesting.
Speaker 4: And they also done it when the game was in Vegas.
Speaker 1: They go, hey, your kid, No, well, how could you
Speaker 1: do it from Vegas.
Speaker 4: I'm not kidding, it's just it's just a thing that
Speaker 4: put on every week before the football Welcome the country.
Speaker 3: Okay, but but but what country? What country have been
Speaker 3: welcome to in Las Vegas?
Speaker 4: And what country you're been welcome to in New Zealand.
Speaker 3: Well they could say a to row in New Zealand,
Speaker 3: or so, I mean there is a Polynesian I suppose
Speaker 3: connection or whatever in that whole background welcome the country.
Speaker 4: When they do welcome the country here that's Torres, Straight
Speaker 4: Islanders and Indigenous austrange Yeah.
Speaker 1: I know, but I'm just trying.
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to get to the bottom of of
Speaker 3: of you know, what what the Vegas welcome was.
Speaker 1: I mean, what the traditional lands of who?
Speaker 4: No, the traditional lands of the people of this scattery
Speaker 4: of Australia in vague take any notice where the game's
Speaker 4: coming from.
Speaker 1: Oh right, okay, they.
Speaker 3: Just put it on automatically, so to welcome the country
Speaker 3: even if you're not on country yep, right, Okay, Well
Speaker 3: that's that's why I just stretched the imagination, right, I
Speaker 3: must admit, because if I'm listening to the football, I'm
Speaker 3: obviously listening to continuous call to him because I listen.
Speaker 1: To the best.
Speaker 3: But if that's what they do, that's a kind of
Speaker 3: a stretch of friendship.
Speaker 1: I suppose.
Speaker 3: Welcome to the traditional lands of whatever. We're here in
Speaker 3: Las Vegas this week. It's okay, Can someone else confirm
Speaker 3: that one for me? One three, one eight seven three.
Speaker 3: Troy suggests that Paramatter actually means place of many parking fines, which.
Speaker 1: Might be true.
Speaker 3: As someone who got his l's and p's very gradually
Speaker 3: in the great city of Paramatter, I can tell you
Speaker 3: it's the place of many one way streets that cost
Speaker 3: me a fair bit of money. One three one eight
Speaker 3: seven three. Now to the energy mixed situation. Obviously, we've
Speaker 3: been focusing here on the show about what Victoria are
Speaker 3: trying to achieve by twenty thirty and then twenty forty,
Speaker 3: which is to be completely renewable energy with a bit
Speaker 3: of battery backup and whatever. Mind you, they're not going
Speaker 3: to sever the connecting ties to New South Wales and
Speaker 3: Tasmania and South Australia with the national energy market. They're
Speaker 3: not so courageous, should I say, not so stupid as
Speaker 3: to think they can do it completely on their own.
Speaker 3: But they do have this road map, blue blueprint, whatever
Speaker 3: you want to call it. It is a document of fantasy,
Speaker 3: of course, but they've produced it. Nonetheless, that suggests by
Speaker 3: x state and it's not that far down the track
Speaker 3: that they will be virtually completely renewably reliant.
Speaker 1: Now it's interesting.
Speaker 3: They'll look at the national energy fuel mix today, the
Speaker 3: snapshot that I last got updated at eleven thirty in
Speaker 3: the morning, and say, well, look, you know, we've got
Speaker 3: some hope because at eleven thirty this morning, forty eight
Speaker 3: percent of Victoria's generation was coming from wind, forty one
Speaker 3: percent from brown coal. But bear in mind, in a
Speaker 3: couple of years time, or three or five or whatever
Speaker 3: year's time, that brown coal will be zero because it'll
Speaker 3: be decommissioned, and so the renewable's going to have to
Speaker 3: pick up the slack. Sola was giving about nine percent
Speaker 3: of the grid. Two percent was hydro gas hadn't been activated.
Speaker 3: That will be a very significant figure in the year's
Speaker 3: ahead because without coal and without nuclear, gas is going
Speaker 3: to be the backup. So they'll look at that today
Speaker 3: in spring Street and say, well, look, okay, we're halfway there.
Speaker 3: But of course, if they're being honest, they have a
Speaker 3: favorable day as far as the wind conditions are concerned.
Speaker 3: This time last week wind was producing about five percent.
Speaker 3: So let's look north of the border, because of course,
Speaker 3: if it falls in a heap in Victoria, they'll be
Speaker 3: relying on generation coming from other jurisdictions to plug the gap.
Speaker 3: So what's New South Wales doing today? Well, I wouldn't
Speaker 3: be relying on our wind infrastructure, as extensive as it is.
Speaker 3: Two percent. Two percent of generation in New South Wales
Speaker 3: was from all of those wind turbines. Two percent solar
Speaker 3: was healthy at thirty four I'll granted that, But sixty
Speaker 3: three percent of the grid was coming from old King
Speaker 3: coal black coal. Now again, I'm not telling you all
Speaker 3: of this to say that we should have coal forever
Speaker 3: or we should have no coal. I'm energy agnostic, but
Speaker 3: you know that I very much think we should be
Speaker 3: smart and introduce nuclear to the grid to have the
Speaker 3: option of guaranteed base load power that is zero emissions
Speaker 3: and from an efficiency point of view, and this is
Speaker 3: the point that's always overlooked. Yes, nuclear is expensive, but
Speaker 3: it is the most efficient form of energy generation that
Speaker 3: we have developed as a race, as a species. Now
Speaker 3: in the future we may be able to better it,
Speaker 3: but it'll be a damn efficient system because nuclear is
Speaker 3: enormously efficient pound for pound compared even to coal. It
Speaker 3: absolutely leaves wind and solar and the rest in the shade.
Speaker 3: So if productivity is based off efficiency, which it generally
Speaker 3: is in the economy, we would be wise to be
Speaker 3: investing in the most efficient form of generation. It happens
Speaker 3: to have the added bonus for the environmentalist inclined of
Speaker 3: being zero immersions, and that's nuclear. That's not renewables anyway.
Speaker 3: So it's a tale of two states at this point
Speaker 3: in time. But often those charts are easily interchangeable. It's
Speaker 3: quite frequently that in Victoria brown coal as well over
Speaker 3: fifty or sixty percent of the grid on any given day,
Speaker 3: any given moment. With that being phased out, they are
Speaker 3: going to be in a world of pain, a world
Speaker 3: of pain, and it will be within our lifetimes. I
Speaker 3: think that we experience it. As I said, if they
Speaker 3: avoid it, I'll eat humble pie. But I'm not feeling
Speaker 3: peckish at the moment. Just quietly one three one eight
Speaker 3: seven three five to one, Greg asking on the text,
Speaker 3: do we know how the energy supply works when Victoria's
Speaker 3: run out and New South Wales is running at full capacity?
Speaker 3: Does it mean New South Wales goes without in order
Speaker 3: to supply Victoria? Sort of in the minute, I've got
Speaker 3: my understanding. Greg is not quite like that. But you
Speaker 3: have a national energy market, and so you've got generators
Speaker 3: that are supplying energy into the grid, the Eastern Coast grid,
Speaker 3: and if for example, VIC Torria were to have all
Speaker 3: of their generation capacity explode, the demand is still there
Speaker 3: from the consumers and the industries, and so the generating
Speaker 3: capacity out of Queensland, South Australia and New South past
Speaker 3: Tasmania is asked to go full throttle. Gas would be
Speaker 3: brought on peaking plans, but the price of the energy
Speaker 3: produced would go through the roof because the seller can
Speaker 3: demand much higher prices for the product that they're selling.
Speaker 3: It's sort of supply and demand in the traditional economic sense.
Speaker 3: And so would there then be brownouts and shortages? Look,
Speaker 3: that would depend on contractual arrangements in each state, but
Speaker 3: the price of energy available would be going through the roof.
Speaker 3: And so when you have one of your main states
Speaker 3: short of juice, even if the others are sufficiently covered,
Speaker 3: there would be a financial knock on effect at the
Speaker 3: very least. And so I guess we'd all pay for
Speaker 3: the ideology.
Speaker 6: Users up now, Now onto GB and network stations. Back
Speaker 6: to afternoons with Michael McLaren, all.
Speaker 1: Right into the second hour. Thank you for being there
Speaker 1: with us.
Speaker 3: I'd forgive you if you weren't, because it's a beautiful
Speaker 3: day outside, a nice day to go and walk the
Speaker 3: dog or I don't know, whatever you want to do.
Speaker 3: If you're working from home, I don't know how productive
Speaker 3: you would be on a day like today.
Speaker 1: If the garden is calling the garden.
Speaker 3: I did a bit of gardening over the weekend yesterday
Speaker 3: before the storm hit the footballs on what that is,
Speaker 3: before it got dark out there weeding and it's just
Speaker 3: it's that kind of the weather's been very conducive to
Speaker 3: the weeds. I don't know what's going on. The bulbs
Speaker 3: are coming through, they're looking good. I've read Graham Ross's
Speaker 3: latest magazine and so I was reading the articles. You've
Speaker 3: got to fertilize the bulbs now with I think.
Speaker 1: It was what would we do? It was hanging on
Speaker 1: what was it that we were throwing on it? Blood
Speaker 1: and bone? That was it?
Speaker 3: Blood and bone for the bulbs. I think, so over
Speaker 3: that goes and they've got blood and bone that now
Speaker 3: doesn't smell like blood and bone. Remember in the old
Speaker 3: days blood and bone. Dad used to have it under
Speaker 3: the house. We had the garage and they had the
Speaker 3: sort of the manhole under the house there and the
Speaker 3: mob was hid and everything used to be hid, and
Speaker 3: you used to get it out and you could smell
Speaker 3: it from three and a half miles away like it was.
Speaker 3: It was horrendous, right, and you thought, well, if it
Speaker 3: smells this bad, it's gotta work. Like anything that stinks
Speaker 3: this bad is going to really make the roses blue.
Speaker 1: And it did.
Speaker 3: But now they I don't know, it's smellless either that
Speaker 3: or I've lost my sense of smell one of the two.
Speaker 3: But I suspect it's the former. Is it just potent?
Speaker 3: I wonder maybe there's less blood and less.
Speaker 1: Bone in it? Whatever? Anyway, But where was I?
Speaker 3: Oh, the gardening, I was doing the weeding, that's right.
Speaker 3: So they've done the weeding bit of it, and there's
Speaker 3: a lot more to do. It's like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: You pull all these weeds out and you sort of
Speaker 1: look back.
Speaker 3: And admire what you've done, and you think, oh, that's
Speaker 3: good hard work, and then you can see them coming through. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you've only just stopped. And then these little green bugge's
Speaker 3: through they coming. Oh god, anyway, such as life one
Speaker 3: three one eight seven three, the open line number, don't
Speaker 3: forget after the half pass news, Trent will be here
Speaker 3: with drives to get all your motoring questions ready. In fact,
Speaker 3: he's in the building already rugged up and ready to go.
Speaker 3: He's got a I think a jack of it. Richard
Speaker 3: Burton was rocking in the nineteen seventies. It looks very good.
Speaker 3: So he's here and we've got obviously spin the wheel,
Speaker 3: the winter wheel, the two GB winter whel wonderful prizes.
Speaker 3: Stay listening for that cue to call one three one
Speaker 3: eight seven three. Well, we are approaching the end of
Speaker 3: the financial year, fast approaching. It's weeks away now, and
Speaker 3: it is a time of getting the affairs in order,
Speaker 3: preparing to lodge a tax return.
Speaker 1: Of course, yes, got to do that. Although there's sort of.
Speaker 3: Fun things that July brings. But one thing that people
Speaker 3: may not think about is private health insurance benefits, dental, optical,
Speaker 3: physio psychology. All of these are typically included in private
Speaker 3: health cover of one sort and they come with annual limits,
Speaker 3: but you pay for them, and it means either at
Speaker 3: the end of the financial year or in some cases
Speaker 3: at the end of the calendar year, benefits reset and
Speaker 3: if unused, well the allowance just expires. They don't roll over.
Speaker 3: So if you're paying top dollar for your private health cover,
Speaker 3: I think it is worth getting the most out of
Speaker 3: your plan and using the benefits that you have before
Speaker 3: July one, if indeed that is the threshold.
Speaker 1: Now it is a big issue for a lot of Australians.
Speaker 3: More than half of the Australian population have some level
Speaker 3: of cover in a private health fund, thirteen point six
Speaker 3: million of us to be precise. So using your benefits
Speaker 3: doesn't necessarily mean you're just treating problems that you may
Speaker 3: already have. Thousands of people have private health cover without
Speaker 3: any major pre existing conditions. But these extras, as it were,
Speaker 3: they are the things that are quite easily accessible, but
Speaker 3: a lot of people just leave them wasted money. Well,
Speaker 3: Matt coch is the CEO of the Member's Health Fund Alliance.
Speaker 3: I thought we'd have a chat to him about this
Speaker 3: timely reminder, and he's with me on the line. Great
Speaker 3: to speak, Matt, thank you for your time.
Speaker 7: Good to talk, and you provided a great summary there
Speaker 7: of what extras is. And you know, it's one of
Speaker 7: those things if you don't use it, you kind of
Speaker 7: lose it. And some funds have their benefit limits set
Speaker 7: at the end of the financial year, others on the
Speaker 7: thirty first of December. But either way, it's a really
Speaker 7: good time right now to check what your limits are
Speaker 7: and make the most of your private health insurance. And
Speaker 7: these are the things people like to use. So it's
Speaker 7: like dental checkups, optical checkups, getting new glasses, that sort
Speaker 7: of thing.
Speaker 3: I guess that's so true, because you know, once you've paid,
Speaker 3: let's say you paid last July or August, when you
Speaker 3: got around to it, I mean, it's a long time ago,
Speaker 3: a lot of water under the bridge. You forget that
Speaker 3: you've put that investment down and that the renewal is
Speaker 3: about to expire.
Speaker 1: You just forget over the nine, ten, eleven, twelve months,
Speaker 1: don't you.
Speaker 7: Well you can, and there's a lot going on in
Speaker 7: people's lives. There's lots of things you're thinking about other
Speaker 7: than your health insurance, and unfortunately, we often take our
Speaker 7: health for granted until something goes wrong. But extras is
Speaker 7: really good because it's a way to often identify health
Speaker 7: issues really early or prevent them coming on in the
Speaker 7: first place. So you get a dental check up, you
Speaker 7: might find that having a teeth clean is a good
Speaker 7: way to prevent getting a filling down the track. Or
Speaker 7: you might have the dental checkup and they might identify
Speaker 7: you've got a very early stage tooth decay and they
Speaker 7: can address that really simply and quickly, whereas if you
Speaker 7: let things linger, it can often have serious health consequences
Speaker 7: down the track.
Speaker 1: So this isn't just about using your money.
Speaker 3: I guess the point you're making is this is actually
Speaker 3: a pretty decent investment because it could be preventative health
Speaker 3: in the truest sense.
Speaker 1: Of the word.
Speaker 3: You go, you've got the financial incentive to go to,
Speaker 3: say the dentist, they open up your mouth and they
Speaker 3: do what they were going to do, a clean or
Speaker 3: whatever's covered, and they oh, hang on, you're going to
Speaker 3: have to get this scene too, because if you don't.
Speaker 1: There's big problems down the track.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, and what's more important than your health. It's hard
Speaker 7: to do things if you don't have good health, and
Speaker 7: this is a good way to maintain your really good
Speaker 7: health and stay in good physical condition. Even with some
Speaker 7: of the optical care, like getting your eyes checked, you
Speaker 7: can sometimes identify other health issues like cardiac issues through
Speaker 7: an eye checkup, So you'd be surprised at what they
Speaker 7: can find out with these checks.
Speaker 3: Do we have a sense, Matt just the sum the
Speaker 3: quantum of money that is spent when the policy is
Speaker 3: taken out but is never realized in the form of
Speaker 3: a service having been delivered. It would be in the
Speaker 3: tens of millions across Australia easily, wouldn't it.
Speaker 7: Well look easily. And health insurers actually want people to
Speaker 7: use their cover, They want them to use their extras
Speaker 7: because you know, the health insurer wants you to be
Speaker 7: in good physical shape. They don't want you to be
Speaker 7: needing a hospital admission or really serious dental or optical
Speaker 7: work down the track.
Speaker 3: So this is a different to the traditional the traditional
Speaker 3: insurance mindset which is no claim bonus. They're not necessarily
Speaker 3: into the no claim ideologies that.
Speaker 1: Would you say that's right.
Speaker 7: Well, look, we just want to make sure people are fit,
Speaker 7: healthy or in good shape. We don't want you to
Speaker 7: have to go through the inconvenience of major dental work
Speaker 7: or having to go in for a procedure that you
Speaker 7: can avoid. If that can be avoided, that's great for you,
Speaker 7: and it's great for the Health Fund. Then it'll save
Speaker 7: everybody money. It'll save your money through a lower premiums.
Speaker 7: It'll save you all that inconvenience with what comes with
Speaker 7: more serious you know work, and you get to be
Speaker 7: in better physical shape.
Speaker 4: When for everybody, just.
Speaker 3: On that before we go back to this specific issue.
Speaker 3: I mean, are we proactively pricing premiums in Australia the
Speaker 3: way that we should. We've inundated with technology, there's apps,
Speaker 3: there's all sorts of ways that people could I think,
Speaker 3: rather ethically measure the way that they live their life,
Speaker 3: the way they look after themselves, the way they keep
Speaker 3: themselves fit, or don't I mean, should we have a
Speaker 3: more flexible premium system in place whereby those that do
Speaker 3: the hard yards, eat the right foods, go for the
Speaker 3: daily walk and the rest of it pay less than
Speaker 3: those that don't look.
Speaker 7: In Australia, we've got called community yes, so it doesn't
Speaker 7: matter how old you are, or what age, what sex
Speaker 7: you are, you live, you pay the same premium as
Speaker 7: everybody else. And it's worked really well for Australia. So
Speaker 7: you know, over half the Australian population have private health
Speaker 7: insurance and Australia gets the best health outcomes in the world.
Speaker 7: We've got best health system on the planet and private
Speaker 7: health is a key part of achieving that. So we've
Speaker 7: actually got a really really good system. The last thing
Speaker 7: you would want is for someone who's paid private health
Speaker 7: insurance all their life to get older and then be
Speaker 7: priced out of it because of their age. That would
Speaker 7: be really unfair.
Speaker 3: The problem is, though a lot of younger people are
Speaker 3: priced out of it, and without them going in, the
Speaker 3: older ones aren't being cross subsidized, and so that the
Speaker 3: system is understrained.
Speaker 7: Right well, we are seeing more younger people take out
Speaker 7: private health insurance now and the pool of people with
Speaker 7: health insurance is growing, so that's a good thing. And
Speaker 7: you might be paying a little bit more when you're
Speaker 7: younger than you would otherwise, but as you get older
Speaker 7: you'll reap the benefits as well. So health insurance is
Speaker 7: there for your whole life, and a lot of young
Speaker 7: people can suffer really serious health issues. You know, you
Speaker 7: can do a knee or a hip playing sports. Young
Speaker 7: people even suffer cardiac issues as well. So health is
Speaker 7: one of those things that's really unpredictable, and you really
Speaker 7: want to have private health insurance, especially right now when
Speaker 7: the waits in the public system are just so long.
Speaker 7: I mean, you can be waiting years for elective surgery
Speaker 7: in the public hospital system, whereas with private health, you're
Speaker 7: straight in, you get your doctor of choice, you'll get
Speaker 7: really really good care, and because you're using a private
Speaker 7: bed in a private hospital, you're actually freeing up a
Speaker 7: public bed for someone who really really needs it. So
Speaker 7: it's a great system we've got.
Speaker 3: Look, you're talking to the converted, But I bounce around
Speaker 3: these devil advocate questions because I just wonder whether sort
Speaker 3: of a more dynamic pricing model. And I don't mean
Speaker 3: those with pre existing conditions should pay more. I think
Speaker 3: that's the case of the UK. I think that I
Speaker 3: don't think we should go down that path. But if
Speaker 3: you have just some basic metrics, where if someone has
Speaker 3: a gym membership and utilizes it. And I mean how
Speaker 3: you monitor the bona fides of the claims. I guess
Speaker 3: that's where it gets complicated. But technology is advancing all
Speaker 3: the time, and you know, if someone's I guess the
Speaker 3: point is, yes, you've got someone who's eating fourteen burgers
Speaker 3: a week as opposed to someone's having a largely vegetarian
Speaker 3: diet with seafood and a little bit of steak occasionally.
Speaker 3: And one just sits on the lounge and watch the football.
Speaker 3: The other goes to the gym, and you know, under
Speaker 3: the scheme, they both pay the same for the same cover.
Speaker 1: And I wonder if that's democratic or not.
Speaker 7: I don't know, it's it's certainly worth discussing and looking at.
Speaker 7: I guess from the health insurance funds perspective, they're keen
Speaker 7: to work with their members on getting them access to dietitians,
Speaker 7: you know, getting them access to physio. You can even
Speaker 7: get remedial massage with your private health insurance extras. So
Speaker 7: it's all about helping people and encouraging people to live
Speaker 7: health The act is fulfilling lives. It's being part of
Speaker 7: that journey. And whereas you know, a medical specialist is
Speaker 7: there for a particular procedure or a particular surgical operation.
Speaker 7: The health insurer is there for someone's entire life, so
Speaker 7: they'll be there through thick and thin, basically from cradle
Speaker 7: to grave, helping take care of you.
Speaker 3: Okay, just back to where we were as far as
Speaker 3: the extras expiring, as it were, It depends on which
Speaker 3: business you're with and which policy. Some are the end
Speaker 3: of the financial use, some of the end of the calendar.
Speaker 3: It depends on who you're with, Isn't it correct?
Speaker 7: And we recommend you know you follow three simple steps.
Speaker 7: So firstly, check your policy at this time of the year.
Speaker 7: Understand what your limits are and what the remaining balance
Speaker 7: is for each of your extra services that's usually available
Speaker 7: from your health fund's website or app Second one is
Speaker 7: book appointments. If you've got unused benefits, book those appointments now.
Speaker 7: This is an ideal time to schedule, even if you
Speaker 7: know your benefits expire it the end of the calendar
Speaker 7: year on thirty first of December. Now is a good
Speaker 7: time to plan out when you're going to go see
Speaker 7: the dentists or the optometrists, or get your physio and
Speaker 7: so forth, and Thirdly, contact the Health Fund if you're
Speaker 7: unsure about your entitlements or what services you're eligible for,
Speaker 7: just give the health fund a call, have a chat,
Speaker 7: get some advice from them. With the not for profit
Speaker 7: member own health funds, they only exist to serve you,
Speaker 7: the consumer. They don't have shareholders, they don't have overseas investors.
Speaker 7: They're run and owned by the members. So they're going
Speaker 7: to give you really really good advice and they're going
Speaker 7: to be really really helpful.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I'm with one of them, and yeah, you've
Speaker 3: got to choose you You've got to choose your provider carefully.
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. Good to speak.
Speaker 3: I think a bit of timely advice there, Matt, I
Speaker 3: appreciate your time. Thanks a lot, Matt Coachi, the ceeover
Speaker 3: the Members Health Fund Alliance Members Health by the way,
Speaker 3: it's the peak industry body from the lines of twenty
Speaker 3: four health funds. They're a not for profitable part of
Speaker 3: a member owned group. Okay, so they're a little different
Speaker 3: to some of those big corporate funds. But some interesting
Speaker 3: advice there. But look, I just wonder over to you one, three, one, eight,
Speaker 3: seven and three. If you've got private health of whatever
Speaker 3: extraction with whoever. Are you one of those ones that
Speaker 3: have some level of extras because when you've taken it
Speaker 3: out and you've got sort of in the back of
Speaker 3: the mind maybe I need the dental, so you add
Speaker 3: it in, but then you never use it, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of us are like that with
Speaker 1: a lot of things. We buy a.
Speaker 3: Slightly inflated package of whatever it is, but never really
Speaker 3: utilize the full scope of it. I mean, essentially we're
Speaker 3: wasting money. As our previous correspondence said on the text line,
Speaker 3: you'd be better off. I mean, I'm not heady to
Speaker 3: get financial advice, but logic demands you'd be better off
Speaker 3: instead putting that money into a savings account and just
Speaker 3: being disciplined and watch you add interest with time.
Speaker 1: But we don't. That's I guess human nature.
Speaker 3: But are you one of those ones that religiously uses
Speaker 3: the extras that are available to you that you've paid
Speaker 3: for every year? I think a lot of people with
Speaker 3: the glasses do that. Go and get the new pairs
Speaker 3: reading glasses or whatever prescription glasses you for no other reason,
Speaker 3: to keep up with the trend or whatever. But beyond that,
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, I think a few people
Speaker 3: pay and then don't fully use it, and that's a waste.
Speaker 3: It's twenty one minutes past one. Don't forget driver trend
Speaker 3: coming up in about five or so minutes one three, one,
Speaker 3: eight seven three.
Speaker 1: Let's get to all of these calls about health insurance
Speaker 1: terry today.
Speaker 8: Gooday, here you going, good mate.
Speaker 1: Thanks.
Speaker 8: I'm just calling about the private health of been in
Speaker 8: private health for a number of years as my wife has.
Speaker 8: Now we've had some surgeries, like we're both in our sixties,
Speaker 8: we've had knee surgeries and she said, my wife's had
Speaker 8: that surgery, et cetera. But you are out of pocket
Speaker 8: quite often by a fair amount. Yes, when I had
Speaker 8: my knee surgery done, it was like five thousand dollars
Speaker 8: out of pocket because the schedule fee apparently is so
Speaker 8: low that they're surgeons for what they do. They the
Speaker 8: schedule priest too low basically, so they charge extra, which
Speaker 8: you have to pay obviously.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that that that, that is true, mind you. In
Speaker 3: the public health system, we've got gaps as well between
Speaker 3: what Medicare is willing to cover even when you see
Speaker 3: the GP and what the doctor demands in many cases don't.
Speaker 8: We Well, we are, I guess, and that's far more
Speaker 8: beneficial to have private health because you can get in
Speaker 8: fairly quickly as post of public hospital. But you pay
Speaker 8: a lot of money. But you're still going to have
Speaker 8: some cash laying around, which you don't always have yes
Speaker 8: to get to surgery done anyway, because you've got to
Speaker 8: pay the other pocket.
Speaker 3: That's very true. That's that's that's so true. That's a
Speaker 3: very very good point. A number of people on the
Speaker 3: text have made the same point. It's it's not as
Speaker 3: if you've paid up and then it's always all covered
Speaker 3: forever without any questions. Sometimes there's a gap. And that's
Speaker 3: quite right, Terry. I appreciate your call. I'm not here
Speaker 3: to defend the private health industry, but I would argue
Speaker 3: as someone who has cover that it's I think the
Speaker 3: key term is the insurance term. You know, you take
Speaker 3: out home and contents insurance because a lot of people say, well, is.
Speaker 1: It worth the money? Why would I do it? I'm healthy?
Speaker 3: Okay, Well yeah, but you do the same with your
Speaker 3: home and contents don't you've got home and contents insurance?
Speaker 3: You don't assume that at some point you're going to
Speaker 3: use it because the house will burn down, But if
Speaker 3: it should, you are going to be significantly covered. It
Speaker 3: may not be complete. You might still have to dip
Speaker 3: into your bank account, but you won't have to be
Speaker 3: dipping into the extent of paying one point something million
Speaker 3: to rebuild and refurnish. In the whole show, you would
Speaker 3: be largely covered at worst. And that's what insurance is about.
Speaker 3: Now We've got some very significant correct questions to be
Speaker 3: asked about the veracity of the insurance industry and how
Speaker 3: fair it is and premiums and gaps. I mean, that's
Speaker 3: all very very much in need of discussion. They're not angels,
Speaker 3: but I think, you know, for peace of mind if
Speaker 3: nothing else, even if it's not complete peace of mind,
Speaker 3: I'm going to stick with it.
Speaker 1: But Mark makes a very valid point on the text.
Speaker 3: He says, without the additional Medicare levy situation, private health
Speaker 3: would collapse.
Speaker 1: And I suspect he's right.
Speaker 3: There'd be a lot of people in it just to
Speaker 3: avoid the additional Medicare tax. But yeah, that was always
Speaker 3: going to be the risk when we had Medibank which
Speaker 3: became Medicare, that if you completely socialized the healthcare system,
Speaker 3: and it was quite unquite free. Then people said, well,
Speaker 3: why would I pay for it? Unless I want a
Speaker 3: choice of my surgeon, why would I pay? So you
Speaker 3: had to have that backstop in the tax system to
Speaker 3: make sure that there wasn't a complete exodus, because there
Speaker 3: would have been.
Speaker 1: Terry again, thank you, Judy. Hello, Yes, Hi, Michael.
Speaker 9: Hi.
Speaker 10: I'm in private health Booper and I pay ninety nine
Speaker 10: dollars fifty nine a fortnite yep. And I'm on a pension,
Speaker 10: sole on a pension. I've been done in by my
Speaker 10: insurance company and no one wants to help me. And
Speaker 10: I'm just up here without it, without a paddle, and
Speaker 10: I cannot cope with it all. And if it goes
Speaker 10: up anymore, I don't know I'm making in the June.
Speaker 10: It's not fair we have these battles. I don't know.
Speaker 10: I've been in this fund since I left school.
Speaker 1: They've been a loyal customer.
Speaker 10: Yeah, and why you know why people say, oh, because
Speaker 10: you're getting older, you should be paying more. No, I
Speaker 10: have less. I don't go to work, I can't go
Speaker 10: to work, and I have needs. But I haven't been
Speaker 10: a hospital in Stutout for the nine.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't think you should.
Speaker 3: I don't think you would or should be paying more
Speaker 3: just because you're getting older. I'd imagine that the premiums
Speaker 3: are going up across the board and you'll be captured
Speaker 3: by that. But if they said to you that because
Speaker 3: you're over a certain age, they're going to slug you
Speaker 3: an extra percentage or something, No, no, no, I.
Speaker 8: Haven't heard that.
Speaker 10: Good but Booper did have a pop up in MacArthur Square,
Speaker 10: but they've close that. Now are you there, I'm listening, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 10: on the phone just went playing.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 1: Okay. So basically, it's becoming too expensive to renew.
Speaker 10: That's what you're saying, Judy, it's becoming too expensive to
Speaker 10: live as a pensioner. The most we've had the increase
Speaker 10: in the last four and a half years, it's fifty
Speaker 10: five dollars ninety. All insurances have gone up, Eggs have
Speaker 10: gone up, Bread's gone up, all your groceries have gone up,
Speaker 10: your rates, everything's gone up. Engines have only gone up.
Speaker 10: The last increase we have was four dollars twenty seven
Speaker 10: in twenty twenty five. That's this year, going from back then.
Speaker 10: It's just not fair. Nobody's looking at it, nobody gives
Speaker 10: a hoot and I can't make ends meet and it
Speaker 10: isn't fair.
Speaker 3: No, look, I agree, I understand what you're saying. I've
Speaker 3: had a number of people in this very similar position,
Speaker 3: certainly when there's all this talk about the heck stets
Speaker 3: being wiped and this was going up at the minimum
Speaker 3: wage recently got increased by the pricing tribunal, and a
Speaker 3: number of people who will hang on as a pensioner,
Speaker 3: we went up about four dollars twenty five a fortnite
Speaker 3: or something.
Speaker 1: What about us? Fair enough point? Tell you what?
Speaker 3: Hang on there, Talk to the team off here and
Speaker 3: we might be able to put in a call with
Speaker 3: your health insurance. Just see if there's a better deal
Speaker 3: that you can get with them, or if there's something
Speaker 3: there that maybe you haven't seen that would assist, because
Speaker 3: you know, we don't want listeners who have been loyal
Speaker 3: with their health insurer for decades reaching a point where
Speaker 3: they just simply can't continue at a time of their
Speaker 3: life when chances are they are going to actually have
Speaker 3: to start using and tapping the insurance that they've paid
Speaker 3: into for the better part of decades. Hang on there,
Speaker 3: Judy we'll grab your details. We'll speak off here. David,
Speaker 3: Good afternoon.
Speaker 11: Hi Michael, Yes, mate, I'm seventy eight. I've been in
Speaker 11: the HCF since I was seventeen. I've had four children.
Speaker 11: I've always had the excess of extra benefits. Well sometimes
Speaker 11: have used them in a year or two, three years.
Speaker 11: Wonder how the health funds make their living out of it. Sure,
Speaker 11: it's nearly five hundred dollars a month. It's gone up,
Speaker 11: and as the last lady said, it's hard. If I
Speaker 11: had to sacrifice something else, I would sacrifice something else
Speaker 11: for the sake of the health. I've got good health
Speaker 11: my wife and I and now together. But in terms
Speaker 11: of those extra benefits, having your teeth done, your eyes checked,
Speaker 11: all those things you talked about, you try and use
Speaker 11: as much of those as you can. And the other
Speaker 11: thing I just want to mention is that they don't
Speaker 11: always tell you this. With it going up last year,
Speaker 11: I was becoming more concerned. I spoke to the HCF
Speaker 11: about they have a thing that when you go into hospital,
Speaker 11: you pay the first two hundred and fifty dollars as
Speaker 11: a private patient, you and your partner. And what I did.
Speaker 11: I talked about I changed my excess to make it
Speaker 11: five hundred dollars, So with neither of us going to
Speaker 11: hospital during the twelve months, our premium dropped down nearly
Speaker 11: fifty dollars a month. So people that aren't aware, it's
Speaker 11: like your insurance, yep. You appreciate excess and it brings
Speaker 11: your premium down. So the private funds don't tell you
Speaker 11: much about it. So what some of them need to do, is,
Speaker 11: particularly the aces, I talk to them about it. I
Speaker 11: change the excess from two hundred and fifty to five hundred.
Speaker 11: So if I go into hospital this year, sure it's
Speaker 11: going to cost me more. Do I lose the benefit
Speaker 11: of fifty dollars slightly? Twelve five to sixty six hundred dollars?
Speaker 11: But all I'm saying is for those that are sometimes struggling,
Speaker 11: if you don't look like going to hospital, have a
Speaker 11: look at your excess. You might be able to say
Speaker 11: up to fifty dollars a month.
Speaker 3: I think that's very good advice, yep, that there are
Speaker 3: ways to work the finances around to get it more
Speaker 3: in your benefit. But you've got you've got to make
Speaker 3: the call, you've got to instigate it. They're not going
Speaker 3: to come to you and say, hey, we can save
Speaker 3: you fifty but yeah, you've got to go and do it.
Speaker 3: But what you've done is I think what a lot
Speaker 3: of people have done in recent years. David, thank you
Speaker 3: for the call. All right, off to the newsroom. We
Speaker 3: go where and Margaret afternoon.
Speaker 9: Good afternoon, Michael. One man's been arrested over a fatal
Speaker 9: shitting of a Melbourne man in Bali as local police
Speaker 9: ramp up patrols. It's believed the body of a woman
Speaker 9: found at Warrington have been there for several days. Police
Speaker 9: have expanded their investigation to a second crime scene. A
Speaker 9: Queensland man is to face court accused of torturing a
Speaker 9: seven week old baby who suffered extensive injuries, and Tarongas
Speaker 9: who was reporting an increase in sea turtles needing treatment
Speaker 9: in its wildlife hospital, with twenty four handed in over
Speaker 9: eight months. In Sport, Adam Scott's stream of winning a
Speaker 9: second major has disappeared in wet and miserable conditions At
Speaker 9: the US Open in Pittsburgh. The Aussie dropped nine shots
Speaker 9: on the final day to finish at six over American
Speaker 9: JJ Spoorne claimed the victory and there'll be more news
Speaker 9: at two o'clock on afternoons.
Speaker 1: Oh weather update, We'll be here to help in unexpected weather.
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Speaker 3: Twenty six to two sunny today and seventeen in the city.
Speaker 3: It is a beautiful day outside eighteen for Penrith, sixteen
Speaker 3: the top of Terry Hills, seventeen for Paramata, Campbelltown and
Speaker 3: Bondi Today sunny in eighteen tomorrow and then well something
Speaker 3: a bit different, sunny, but sixteen on Wednesday Canberra morning frost.
Speaker 3: That's gone now it's cloudy top of ten just eleven
Speaker 3: at Tugrinong, a bit more sun there in the south,
Speaker 3: some morning frost tomorrow in the Capital partner cloudy twelve
Speaker 3: degrees the top. They say there is the chance of
Speaker 3: a shower maybe one mill if it comes. And then
Speaker 3: on Wednesday all of that should have blown off a
Speaker 3: bit minus two at the start. Thirteen at the Apex
Speaker 3: morning frost, mostly sunny in Canberra, lifthgo today twelve the
Speaker 3: top morning frost and then that's burnt off with the
Speaker 3: beautiful sunny day. Eleven at Orange Mudgie, fifteen, thirteen at
Speaker 3: Bathistkatuba twelve seventeen Springwood tomorrow, partner cloudy in eleven for
Speaker 3: our listeners through two o te Lithgow and then morning
Speaker 3: frost and mostly sunny Wednesday expected at this stage top
Speaker 3: of twelve degrees. Will take a break when we come back.
Speaker 3: Get those engines revving, even if they're hybrids or evs, because.
Speaker 1: We have the one and only Trent Nikolch in the studio.
Speaker 3: Just before we get to trend, a couple of bits
Speaker 3: of breaking news coming through in America. The Minnesota shooting
Speaker 3: suspect I see has been detained. The individual that the
Speaker 3: American AA agencies were looking for has been detained. We
Speaker 3: await a press conference in Minneapolis in Minnesota about all
Speaker 3: of that. The Daily Telegraph reporting, by the way, that
Speaker 3: the Australian Tennis Ash Barty has just welcomed her second
Speaker 3: child to the world, announcing the birth of a baby
Speaker 3: girl called Jordan on her Instagram this afternoon. So that's
Speaker 3: just coming through. Welcome to the world, Jordan, it said,
Speaker 3: and she was wearing a one see that said embrace
Speaker 3: you're weird up and down and so there you go.
Speaker 3: But really gorgeous looking kid. And Ashparti, of course, the
Speaker 3: great Australian so congratulations to Ash and her and her husband.
Speaker 1: Twenty minutes to two.
Speaker 2: Now one afternoons drive.
Speaker 1: Well, he's back in the studio.
Speaker 3: Back from Detroit, USA via the military parade yesterday, the
Speaker 3: red Eye flight in had to stay there. Thought you
Speaker 3: were one of those guys in the seventeen sort of
Speaker 3: seventeen sixty outfit, weren't you? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Civil War?
Speaker 3: You playing Paul Revere with the bell That works too,
Speaker 3: doesn't it striking?
Speaker 12: They're coming as well, Hello mate. So yeah, it's strange,
Speaker 12: isn't it. The United States is it's such a strange
Speaker 12: place to visit because you come back and then you
Speaker 12: hear something like what's gone on in Minnesota? And I
Speaker 12: always say to people they find it hard to believe
Speaker 12: because as Australians were very different to this. But when
Speaker 12: you're in the United States, I was in Detroit, right,
Speaker 12: you would have no idea, no idea that Los Angeles
Speaker 12: even exists, let alone what's going on there when you're
Speaker 12: in Detroit, and vice versa. Every Australian since I came
Speaker 12: back said what was the feeling about the riots in
Speaker 12: LA No one even mentioned it in Detroit, like it
Speaker 12: wasn't happening.
Speaker 3: No, I mean we get as I was saying the
Speaker 3: other day, people before we get onto madrink, people have
Speaker 3: to understand that most of the Australian media that are
Speaker 3: based in America are based They've got somebody in New York, YA.
Speaker 3: They've got someone in Los Angele, good point. And that'd
Speaker 3: be like having someone based in, you know, from a
Speaker 3: political point of view, the Northern Beaches yep and Couyong
Speaker 3: or something exactly, and there's all the other stuff in between.
Speaker 1: They see the world very differently.
Speaker 12: Absolutely, and the middle of America is very different obviously.
Speaker 12: And what's what's really intriguing is take to take it
Speaker 12: back to a motoring perspective, is Detroit was the birthplace
Speaker 12: of the automobile, as everybody knows, and certainly the birthplace
Speaker 12: of mass production of motown right. And it is fighting
Speaker 12: a battle on multiple fronts because on one hand, you've
Speaker 12: got manufacturers saying, well, what the Trump government is doing
Speaker 12: in regards to tariff's is going to hurt us. And
Speaker 12: then on the other hand, they're fighting the same battle
Speaker 12: with manufacturers from countries like China that are building significantly
Speaker 12: more affordable vehicles in segments that American manufacturers have always dominated.
Speaker 12: So it's a real interesting microcosm. And certainly the politics
Speaker 12: of a place like Lasts Angelus or California is very
Speaker 12: very different from that of Michigan or Indiana or Ohio, you.
Speaker 1: Know, very very different. Yeah, different countries.
Speaker 4: Ok.
Speaker 1: One three one eight seven three.
Speaker 3: You've got a question about your motor vehicle, JELOPI or
Speaker 3: the one you want to buy. Trent knows them all,
Speaker 3: So take advantage of the knowledge's here with me. One three,
Speaker 3: one eight seven three. A lot of people, of course
Speaker 3: buying high laxes to it a high lux. They've made
Speaker 3: a fortune out of that. It is the curR of
Speaker 3: choice for the trazy's. But what are you telling me?
Speaker 1: You say it's going to need to adapt to these
Speaker 1: new rules around vehicle emissions.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 12: So we've spoken about this before on your show, and
Speaker 12: your listeners would know that. On one hand, you've got
Speaker 12: governments saying we must be buying more electric vehicles. You know,
Speaker 12: we're going to incentivize, we're going to make it attractive.
Speaker 12: It's something that we need to do. And on the
Speaker 12: other hand, not just in Australia, and I've said this
Speaker 12: before to reassure listeners that they don't feel like they're
Speaker 12: alienated here in this country. But Australians are saying in
Speaker 12: large numbers, we're not ready for these vehicles yet. And
Speaker 12: it doesn't help a duel cab buyer if you're talking
Speaker 12: about a small electric suv or a small electric sedan.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 12: So, in Australia, vehicles like high Lux and Range are
Speaker 12: incredibly popular and Australians like them. And it's just really
Speaker 12: interesting that by excuse me, by the end of twenty third.
Speaker 1: Got to hit the button before you.
Speaker 12: I did hit it after, Okay, So I just wanted
Speaker 12: everybody to know that I needed to clear my throat.
Speaker 4: So now we can move on.
Speaker 12: By the end of twenty thirty, I've never done radio before.
Speaker 1: It is the first time. That's good, isn't it.
Speaker 12: By the end of twenty thirty, the vast majority of
Speaker 12: Toyota vehicles will have some form of electrification, right, But
Speaker 12: they can't. I can't see a situation, Michael, where dual
Speaker 12: cabs and large four wheel drives can go full electric
Speaker 12: anytime soon. I know we've spoken about it. Toyota is
Speaker 12: aware of it. Toyota has to put electrification into its vehicle.
Speaker 1: Now, they still envisiting hydrogen future, Toyota, I.
Speaker 12: Think they're looking at hydrogen. I think they're looking at
Speaker 12: all manner of things. I think hydrogen is one of them. Obviously,
Speaker 12: hybrids and plug in hybrids, I still think, and we've
Speaker 12: spoken about this before as well, there's going to have
Speaker 12: to be some measure of fuel that we can deliver
Speaker 12: that's environmentally friendly fuel in order to keep all the
Speaker 12: old vehicles running, because we can't just put all the
Speaker 12: old vehicles into landfill. Even if we all started buying
Speaker 12: electric vehicles tomorrow, there's tens of millions of vehicles still
Speaker 12: on the road all around the world that run on
Speaker 12: fossil fuel. So if we can find a fuel that's
Speaker 12: environmentally friendly, synthetic, buy fuel, whatever you want to call it,
Speaker 12: that is probably part of the solution as well.
Speaker 1: And Toyota wou'd be looking at that as well.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 1: Look fuels, like the English language, it's always evolving.
Speaker 3: We had diesel, then we had leaded petrol, then we
Speaker 3: had unleaded petrol, then we got to the ethanol ten
Speaker 3: percent componentory change constantly going on absolutely spot on. Ok Now,
Speaker 3: just before we take calls, what was this thing down
Speaker 3: in Melbourne on the Princess Freeway because you normally have
Speaker 3: a big pile up, the insurance gets involved.
Speaker 12: Yeah, this was a really interesting one because you'd remember
Speaker 12: a couple of months ago in Sydney on a really
Speaker 12: rainy night there were some issues on the Harbor Bridge
Speaker 12: with a whole bunch.
Speaker 1: Of vehicles that got damaged.
Speaker 12: It's just something that's happening a lot more So vehicles
Speaker 12: were damaged on the Princess Freeway in Melbourne, obviously not
Speaker 12: in Sydney where most of our listeners are, but a
Speaker 12: steel plate connector so one of those expansion joints basically came.
Speaker 12: It came away at dislodged, unsealed section of road, a
Speaker 12: truck flipped over and then there was a ten car pilop.
Speaker 12: So this was a lot more serious than the one
Speaker 12: in Sydney where we just had flat tires and damaged wheels.
Speaker 12: You know, it's still not nice at nine or ten
Speaker 12: o'clock at night in the rain, But I think this
Speaker 12: is all part of government's Local councils are going to
Speaker 12: have to start to have a really serious look at
Speaker 12: the state of our roads. And that's why I thought
Speaker 12: this was interesting because in Sydney, people listening to us
Speaker 12: all over Sydney now will be saying, well, I can
Speaker 12: probably give you ten roads that are absolutely awful. And
Speaker 12: if you blow a tire out, if you damage a wheel,
Speaker 12: you've got to pay to fix it, you know.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 12: And we talk a lot about where our money goes
Speaker 12: with fuel exis and taxes and everything else. It should
Speaker 12: be going into a road network. And I can tell
Speaker 12: you having come back from the States, I did a
Speaker 12: lot of driving. I went into Indiana, Ohio as well,
Speaker 12: and obviously Michigan. The road network over there makes ours
Speaker 12: look embarrassing, even in rural America.
Speaker 1: And they complain it's old and decrepit.
Speaker 12: America makes ours look absolutely horrendous.
Speaker 3: Well, you go to Europe and you see what railroads
Speaker 3: look like. Has there ever been a case where someone
Speaker 3: has successfully sued a council or a state government because
Speaker 3: of a pothole the damage their vehicle.
Speaker 12: I have had unconfirmed reports of people getting a compensation
Speaker 12: for either tires or rims where they've been able to
Speaker 12: identify that it was a pothole that.
Speaker 1: Did the damage.
Speaker 12: So person goes through pothole, tire blows out, stops ten
Speaker 12: meters down the road, takes a photo of the tire,
Speaker 12: takes a photo of the pothole. Has the evidence there.
Speaker 12: They're unconfirmed because councils are never going to tell you
Speaker 12: whether they did or they didn't. They don't want to
Speaker 12: open the phone lines to two hundred thousand constituents. Say,
Speaker 12: pay for my tires, right, but they should because you
Speaker 12: and I aren't responsible for the road surface. Said for example, well,
Speaker 12: we are responsible in that sense, but not responsible for
Speaker 12: the quality.
Speaker 1: No quite okay? One three one eight seven three Carol,
Speaker 1: Good afternoon.
Speaker 13: Hei Hei Michael. I'd like to ask the car guru
Speaker 13: there about a car, suggesting a car for me. I'm
Speaker 13: driving a Mazda three at the moment, twenty seventeen. I
Speaker 13: bought it. It fits nicely into my car spot. I
Speaker 13: couldn't have anything wider. Now. The trouble is, I sit
Speaker 13: down into this Master three and perhaps maybe the springs
Speaker 13: have gone, but I was thinking of an suz the
Speaker 13: open door. Just slide into it. Any suggestions please, Yeah.
Speaker 12: So there'll be nothing wrong with the springs in your
Speaker 12: Masda three. Basically, just what happens is you get to
Speaker 12: a point and it's Funny people assume this happens when
Speaker 12: you're seventy five or eighty years old, but it's not.
Speaker 12: You know, I've got friends who are not even fifty
Speaker 12: yet who are sick and tired of climbing down into
Speaker 12: and up out of cars. They want something with a
Speaker 12: neutral seat height, which is what we're talking about here,
Speaker 12: in that sort of size i'd be looking at. If
Speaker 12: you want to stick with a Masda, you can go
Speaker 12: with a c X three, which will give you a
Speaker 12: little bit more heighth than the car you've got. But
Speaker 12: you've also got things like Kia Celtos. I'd have a
Speaker 12: look at Hyundai Kona. I'd have a look at as well.
Speaker 12: I think they're really really good. And then something like
Speaker 12: a Toyota Yaris Cross as well would be an option.
Speaker 12: Good looking little car, so Yaris Cross, Celtos and ConA.
Speaker 12: Have a look at those. They'll give you the physical
Speaker 12: size that you've got, so quite compact, but a better
Speaker 12: seat height.
Speaker 3: Okay, and the Sex three's that's still based off the
Speaker 3: old Mazda two two.
Speaker 12: It's smaller than a Mazda three out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 12: A little bit higher than the Masda three, but physically,
Speaker 12: especially in the back seat smaller. However, the reason I
Speaker 12: mentioned it is a lot of people don't need the
Speaker 12: second row very often. So if you don't need room
Speaker 12: in the second row, I'd have a.
Speaker 1: Look at that. Okay, Nick's wait there you go, Carol,
Speaker 1: thank you?
Speaker 14: Nick him a question question.
Speaker 1: We are far away.
Speaker 15: Yeah, I just got a question regarding your thoughts on
Speaker 15: the in your Screenady. I had a look at the Prado,
Speaker 15: but did you want the battery the EV side of it?
Speaker 4: Didn't?
Speaker 15: I could plus a boot space yep. Also, I had
Speaker 15: a look at the LC three hundred. I just found
Speaker 15: it way too big, but beautiful, takes off really well.
Speaker 15: But I'm about to go and have a look at
Speaker 15: the innioscreenady, which I'm seeing quite a few of them around.
Speaker 12: Okay, So if a three hundred series is too big
Speaker 12: for you, I reckon a Grenadie is going to be
Speaker 12: too big for you as well, because it is a
Speaker 12: big box of a thing, right, So I would definitely
Speaker 12: go and drive one. I would never recommend that you
Speaker 12: don't drive one. I'd be surprised if you drive a
Speaker 12: grenadier and find that you enjoy driving at more than
Speaker 12: say a three hundred series. I get what you're saying
Speaker 12: with Prado. One of the real issues with Prato is
Speaker 12: the lack of boot space from the hybrid system, which
Speaker 12: you mentioned. It's a problem for a lot of people
Speaker 12: and it's a legitimate issue. We've noted it in some
Speaker 12: of our road tests as well. But I'd be surprised
Speaker 12: if you drive the Grenadier and think that it drives better.
Speaker 1: Than a three hundred series. A three hundred series is
Speaker 1: more of a luxury four wheel drive.
Speaker 12: The Grenadier is more about being a robust, hardcore off roader,
Speaker 12: more like a seventy series land Cruiser is so the
Speaker 12: boxy square one. So I would still drive the Grenadier
Speaker 12: see whether you prefer it over the three hundred series.
Speaker 12: Probably also have a driver of the seventy series as well,
Speaker 12: but their manual only, which might put a line through it.
Speaker 12: But just to repeat myself, I'd be very surprised if
Speaker 12: you drive that Grenadier and you enjoy driving it more
Speaker 12: than the three hundred series.
Speaker 3: There you go get great advice. Just before we take
Speaker 3: a break, this through from New South Wales Police. By
Speaker 3: the way, an investigation now underway following a public place
Speaker 3: shooting in Sydney Southwest today.
Speaker 1: This was in Auburn.
Speaker 3: Police were called to South Parade, Auburn following reports of
Speaker 3: a shooting. New South Wales Ambulance paramedics are on scene
Speaker 3: treating three people for gunshot wounds.
Speaker 1: Three people.
Speaker 3: Crime scene has been established and South Parade and surrounding
Speaker 3: streets are currently closed used. So that's just come through
Speaker 3: from the New South Wales Police and investigation underway after
Speaker 3: a public place shooting in Auburn at about one point
Speaker 3: fifteen this afternoon, so about half an hour ago now.
Speaker 3: Three people believe to have suffered gunshot wounds from what
Speaker 3: I can see. Breaking more five to two talking motoring
Speaker 3: here with Trent John. What's your question for Trent John?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Trent, I'm I've been looking at these Mayba S
Speaker 4: class Mercedes that are coming out of Japan secondhand. Are
Speaker 4: you aware of both?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 12: Mate, I'm aware of all the various stuff that comes
Speaker 12: in from overseas. The only sort of advice I'd give
Speaker 12: you on an import is that, and we've learnt this
Speaker 12: the hard way by dealing with a lot of people
Speaker 12: is don't assume that just because it's a Mercedes Benz
Speaker 12: or a may bark in this case that if something
Speaker 12: was to go wrong with it, that Mercedes Benz Australia
Speaker 12: would help you out. They may not necessarily. They may
Speaker 12: say we never sold that vehicle here, or that particular
Speaker 12: one was imported from another market. So just be aware
Speaker 12: of things like parts availability and service availability. In terms
Speaker 12: of getting cars out of Japan, the quality of them
Speaker 12: and the servicing on them is usually pretty good, so
Speaker 12: if that's all verified, there's nothing to worry about there.
Speaker 12: But just be aware that you might be on your
Speaker 12: own if something goes wrong when it gets.
Speaker 1: Here and just twenty seconds here the Zeka seven X
Speaker 1: the electric car.
Speaker 12: Any thoughts, Yeah, that would stay tuned to drive dot com.
Speaker 12: Do you will let you know more about that as
Speaker 12: it comes to never heard of it?
Speaker 1: Zeka funny names. That's a new brand. At least it's
Speaker 1: not an animal from the sea. Againtivity.
Speaker 3: Thanks Fred, Thanks match next week. Trent Negolage, Mitch, you're
Speaker 3: still having trouble with Australia Post. Just sent me a
Speaker 3: text saying just had another delivery by oz Post. Yet
Speaker 3: again they didn't ring the doorbell even after the instruction,
Speaker 3: so I don't know what we can do about this.
Speaker 1: Sorry about that, Mitch.
Speaker 6: Now onto gb and network stations. Back to afternoons with
Speaker 6: Michael McLaren.
Speaker 1: All right, did the third hour.
Speaker 3: We've got our winter wheel ready to be spun shortly,
Speaker 3: so stay listening for the cuter call. I want you
Speaker 3: to when whatever's going to come up. One three hundred
Speaker 3: and seven double two eight seven three the prize line.
Speaker 3: That's the number you're going to need when you hear
Speaker 3: the cuticle. Don't call now, don't call now. All good
Speaker 3: things come to those that wait. By the way, have
Speaker 3: you heard of the name Gasparred Fara. It's a name
Speaker 3: you'd not forget if you were called it, I suppose.
Speaker 3: But Gasparred Fara half French, half English by the sand
Speaker 3: of things anyway. Interesting, I was reading over the weekend
Speaker 3: a story about this bloke. He's well and truly dead now,
Speaker 3: but as it says here, he might just be a
Speaker 3: footnote in history, except he's going to be remembered by
Speaker 3: the equivalent of the treasurer over in the UK, Rachel Reeves,
Speaker 3: Chancellor of the Exchequer, because mister Farrer there was a
Speaker 3: former partner at the now defunct Bearings Bank, is thought
Speaker 3: to have left five hundred thousand pounds in nineteen twenty seven.
Speaker 3: If you don't mind, that's a stonking sum of cash
Speaker 3: at nineteen twenty seven as a gift to Britain in
Speaker 3: response to the UK's huge national debt after the First
Speaker 3: World War. Now there were rules in place, and this
Speaker 3: was the foundation donation of a so called national fund
Speaker 3: established at the time, and the rules said that it
Speaker 3: could only be made available. The money in the fund
Speaker 3: could only be made available when it was enough to
Speaker 3: pay off the national debt in full. Now that meant
Speaker 3: for years the fortune had been locked away from successive governments. Well,
Speaker 3: the five hundred thousand pound seed fund, plus other things
Speaker 3: that have been thrown in over the years from other people,
Speaker 3: now five hundred and eighty five million pounds worth of coin,
Speaker 3: and governments over the years in the UK been trying
Speaker 3: to get their hands on it, because of course they
Speaker 3: can't manage the debt and so despite the stipulation that
Speaker 3: they can only release the capitol once the debt could
Speaker 3: be paid as a lump sum in full, been going
Speaker 3: to court to try to get it anyway. Twenty twenty
Speaker 3: two High Court ruling order that the funds should be
Speaker 3: released and the decision was upheld after the trustees of
Speaker 3: the fund lodged and appeal. So the Treasury boff and
Speaker 3: over there the Chancellor of the Exchequer. It seems we'll
Speaker 3: get a hands on well the better part of a
Speaker 3: billion Australian dollars. Now, of course that won't even touch
Speaker 3: the sides of the UK national debt. It's extraordinary, but
Speaker 3: nonetheless it's the idea I found kind of compelling. So
Speaker 3: you've got these very wealthy people who had a sense
Speaker 3: of national pride and patriotism. They did well out of
Speaker 3: banking or whatever, and so in their will they said,
Speaker 3: I bequeath this huge stonking sum of cash to the nation,
Speaker 3: and I want it, like the Future Fund, to be
Speaker 3: managed and set aside, and when it gets to a
Speaker 3: certain level, you can liberate the funds and pay off
Speaker 3: the debt and that'll be my lasting gift.
Speaker 1: To the nation. I love nice idea.
Speaker 3: The problem is it's sort of can receivable to the
Speaker 3: point of being practical. If your national debt is like
Speaker 3: it was in the past for us, you know, ninety
Speaker 3: what was it? What were we at one point a
Speaker 3: couple of hundred million dollars or something. But when it
Speaker 3: turns to being nearly a trillion, which is what we're now,
Speaker 3: then you sort of think, you know, even if Gina
Speaker 3: ryan Hart and Twiggy Forest and Kerry Stokes and you know,
Speaker 3: all the big boys and girls said a right, well,
Speaker 3: here's a billion, here's a billion, here's a billion. When
Speaker 3: I die, even with compound interest in a bull market,
Speaker 3: you'd go nowhere near it. And I suppose to a
Speaker 3: certain extent that gives you a bit of an idea
Speaker 3: about how the psychology of debt has changed over the years.
Speaker 3: So the British in the late twenties obviously racked up
Speaker 3: an enormous debt post war. The empire was understrained. They
Speaker 3: economy had been sapped because of everything had to be
Speaker 3: poured into the war. The percentage of the GDP spent
Speaker 3: on defense would have been in the thirty percent. So
Speaker 3: I would imagine during those times, and so these people
Speaker 3: that did well and had patriotism in their hearts said, okay, well,
Speaker 3: here's my bit, manage it, and yeah, there'll be the
Speaker 3: sun will come up tomorrow, as they sing it, Annie.
Speaker 3: No one would consider that today, because there's there's no
Speaker 3: conceivable way that the money, rays would go near it.
Speaker 1: So are we living beyond our means? Yeah? Certainly are
Speaker 1: interesting note anyway, look.
Speaker 3: Him up Gaspard gasp A r D Pharah Fa double
Speaker 3: r E. I had some farahs in the family, but
Speaker 3: I think it was a we didn't get a slice
Speaker 3: of the fortune.
Speaker 1: Let's put it that way. One three, one eight seven three.
Speaker 3: Now, by the way, the ABC have got back to Olivia,
Speaker 3: ree what their style guide is. Remember that story earlier
Speaker 3: about dual naming indigenous names and the traditional names are
Speaker 3: being used in this story. Now, I'm not saying I'm
Speaker 3: going to lose sleep over it, but I want to
Speaker 3: know if this is the new normal or if this
Speaker 3: is a journalist going on a bit of an independent frolic.
Speaker 3: The response doesn't really make that clear, but it's as follows.
Speaker 3: The ABC Charter responsibilities include requirement to contribute to a
Speaker 3: sense of national identity and reflect on the cultural diversity
Speaker 3: of the Australian community. A key part of this is
Speaker 3: acknowledging the First Peoples of Australia. The ABC has a
Speaker 3: long and proud tradition that says of helping promote the
Speaker 3: visibility of First Nations peoples and voices in the national conversation,
Speaker 3: and for the past fifteen years this has been given
Speaker 3: particular focus by our reconciliation action plans. In the first
Speaker 3: ABC Elevate Reconciliation Action Plan, we embedded Aboriginal and Torres
Speaker 3: Strait Island the languages and place names across ABC content
Speaker 3: and platforms, helping them become part of the language of
Speaker 3: the nation. And there's a link where you can read
Speaker 3: more about it.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, it's there. But this isn't used all the time,
Speaker 1: and so I wonder.
Speaker 3: If it's what we've sort of uncovered as a sort
Speaker 3: of a bit of a first step to what will
Speaker 3: become common practice.
Speaker 1: I don't know, as I said, the bigger things to
Speaker 1: worry about.
Speaker 3: It's just interesting to know. Nonetheless, one three one eight
Speaker 3: seven three the open line number. Now, there was a
Speaker 3: couple of stories bouncing around over the weekend about electric vehicles.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: One was to do with hybrids and no ovated leases
Speaker 3: and tax breaks that have been wound up, and I
Speaker 3: can get to that later if there's time. But the
Speaker 3: one that really caught my attention was in the Financial Review,
Speaker 3: and it's to do with the people that have an
Speaker 3: ev in the inner city. Now, what they're doing to
Speaker 3: charge their vehicles is shall we say, unconventional. Whether it's legal,
Speaker 3: I have no idea. I'd imagine it's not, but I
Speaker 3: don't know, so I won't name them. The article does.
Speaker 3: But so if they get a spot of bother with
Speaker 3: the law, I don't want any part of that. But
Speaker 3: pole mounted chargers and they are sprouting. I've seen a
Speaker 3: few near me, these EV charges that have turned up
Speaker 3: attached to a powerpole. No one seems to be using them,
Speaker 3: but nonetheless they're there. They're sprouting up to cater for
Speaker 3: EV drivers without off street parking.
Speaker 1: However, others know where.
Speaker 3: Near these nascent technologies are desperate to jag a spot
Speaker 3: in front of their home so they can lay an
Speaker 3: extension cable across the footpath to then charge their vehicle overnight.
Speaker 3: So one bal Main resident who drives Amdsubishi outland a
Speaker 3: plague in hybrid hasn't yet used one of these new
Speaker 3: pole mounted charges that's gone in beside Birch Grove Oval
Speaker 3: where this person's near there, preferring instead to use fast
Speaker 3: charges at the shops or the old home solution.
Speaker 1: Now, what's the home solution for this? Lady.
Speaker 3: Well, she says, and I quote, we at the moment
Speaker 3: drop an electrical cable off our balcony which goes straight
Speaker 3: down to the car. The cable snakes down the pole
Speaker 3: of a parking sign to the vehicle, where an orange
Speaker 3: cone warns drivers not to hit the charging car.
Speaker 1: See what I mean when I say it's unconventional. As
Speaker 1: the lady said, I don't know how legal it is,
Speaker 1: but one no one has complained. We charge it overnight.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you've got this big cable coming out the window
Speaker 3: of the unit, down down some pole to wherever the
Speaker 3: car is. In a communal area, charging overnight lo could
Speaker 3: go wrong, but that seems terribly sensible compared to this
Speaker 3: next person, also from Bowmin, where it says here we
Speaker 3: don't have off street parking, so when we do manage
Speaker 3: to get a spot out in front of the house,
Speaker 3: we have some rubber cord concealing black and yellow ramps.
Speaker 3: We run a cord from the mains in the front
Speaker 3: room under those ramps out to the car and charge
Speaker 3: it overnight. Now I've got an image of someone, if
Speaker 3: it's not that person, someone doing something very similar. The
Speaker 3: issue is the power cable goes over the footpath over
Speaker 3: the verge and into the car right sometimes overnight?
Speaker 1: Is that legal? I want the thought so I don't
Speaker 1: think you can got a trip has it over the footpath?
Speaker 1: Certainly not at night?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 3: Okay, they've put this sort of plasticky rubbery thing on
Speaker 3: top so that you'd probably stub it with your toe
Speaker 3: rather than go for a complete trip. But at night,
Speaker 3: the streets of Baal Main art that well lit, and
Speaker 3: I would have thought this would have been a health hazard.
Speaker 3: I'm surprised the council aren't onto this sort of thing.
Speaker 3: You know, they're busy finding people all over the place
Speaker 3: for parking in front of someone's driveway or daring to
Speaker 3: park on the grass medium strip because there's nowhere else
Speaker 3: or whatever.
Speaker 1: Are they rounding this sort of stuff up anyway? I
Speaker 1: don't look.
Speaker 3: I don't have an electric I've got a hybrid, but
Speaker 3: it's one of those ones that the motor does the
Speaker 3: work for you. But if you live in an area
Speaker 3: where people are doing this, I'd like to hear your stories.
Speaker 3: One three, one eight seven three people charging their evs
Speaker 3: using lots of extension cables from the house out through
Speaker 3: the front gator over the front fence, over the footpath,
Speaker 3: over the grass and into the car. Or in a
Speaker 3: common like apartment building, they're running it down from the
Speaker 3: fourth story balcony, this huge long snake of a cable
Speaker 3: going down to wherever they've got their car.
Speaker 1: Oh, but it's because we put an orange cone nearby
Speaker 1: to one. Really, is this what we're doing? Are we
Speaker 1: not putting dere say, at the cart before the horse.
Speaker 3: I'm in sure that you've got to have the infrastructure
Speaker 3: in place to charge the vehicles before you buy the vehicles.
Speaker 1: Or is that old school thinking? I don't know. One
Speaker 1: three one eight seven three. Good to be with you,
Speaker 1: twenty past two, almost on the dot.
Speaker 13: These winter Wheel.
Speaker 1: Oh there's your cuter.
Speaker 3: Call ladies and gentlemen, be call a number eight. Please
Speaker 3: call a number eight on that prize line one three
Speaker 3: hundred seven double two eight seven three. And if that's you,
Speaker 3: you're going to have a chance to spin two GB's
Speaker 3: winter Well I'll spin it for you.
Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, the winter Wheel.
Speaker 3: There's up to forty thousand dollars worth of cash and
Speaker 3: prizes to be won. Call the prize line, not the
Speaker 3: open line, the prize line one three hundred seven double
Speaker 3: two eight seven three, call a number eight, good luck.
Speaker 3: Now I've positioned the wheel so that the maximum prize
Speaker 3: or ham I hadn't, Joel's moved it. Twenty five hundred dollars.
Speaker 3: That's the top finance prize there. That'll come in handy,
Speaker 3: all right. So that's there ready to go right at
Speaker 3: the top. When we get call a number eight, we'll
Speaker 3: get them on air and.
Speaker 1: I'll spin the wheel.
Speaker 3: And I've been said working on the working on the
Speaker 3: bicep all weekend. Give them a best shot. This spin
Speaker 3: is going to beautiful spin, trumpet you great spin. Beautiful spin.
Speaker 3: Never had a bit of spin than this. So we'll
Speaker 3: see if we can get twenty five hundred dollars in
Speaker 3: someone's pocket all thereabouts.
Speaker 1: While we're waiting for caller eight. By the way, we
Speaker 1: just got to connect the dots and all of that.
Speaker 3: There was this story that bubbled up in and it
Speaker 3: was embargoed until today, so I couldn't mention it on Friday.
Speaker 3: But it's a survey, and I guess it's got people talking.
Speaker 3: That's what they meant to do. A new national survey
Speaker 3: is apparently revealed that while the cost of living is
Speaker 3: a key concern for one in four Aussie home cooks.
Speaker 3: Tiredness is the biggest barrier to home cooking, sixty six
Speaker 3: percent of people saying they're simply too exhausted to make
Speaker 3: dinner several times a week. Really is this true? People
Speaker 3: are so tired they can't make their own dinner? I
Speaker 3: guess then they're buying. Now, this hasn't been commissioned by
Speaker 3: a takeaway joint, which is surprising. But taste dot com
Speaker 3: dot you or the brains behind this and this is
Speaker 3: the dinner heroes? Ah, hang on, okay, the dinner heroes research?
Speaker 3: Who are they dinner heroes? Do they prepare meals that
Speaker 3: you get delivered?
Speaker 4: Is that what?
Speaker 1: I don't know?
Speaker 3: Well, I'll look into that. But it's also found that
Speaker 3: the gender gap in the kitchen is narrowing, with almost
Speaker 3: three quarters of men cooking dinner for the household and
Speaker 3: even more fathers seventy six percent giving cooking a go.
Speaker 1: So oh no, here we go. See I had to
Speaker 1: read on, I didn't read enough. I was time pool.
Speaker 1: It's too tired to read on.
Speaker 3: Too busy cooking dinner, It says here to support energy
Speaker 3: and time poor households, Taste dot com dot you has
Speaker 3: craft a twenty flavor packed no fuss recipes use Cole's
Speaker 3: own brand essentials. It will help to the okay, said,
Speaker 3: hence the survey.
Speaker 1: But is it true?
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm almost willing to call balloney on it.
Speaker 3: A lot of people are tired, but very few people
Speaker 3: are so tired they don't go and eat.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: It's sort of one of those survival things, right, you
Speaker 3: don't do it enough and then you well you're permanently
Speaker 3: tired if you follow them a gist.
Speaker 1: Right, So, I don't know. I mean once a week?
Speaker 4: Is that?
Speaker 3: Is that the rule in your house for takeaways? Maybe
Speaker 3: Friday night or something, you know, once a week. I
Speaker 3: don't think too many people would be doing takeaway or
Speaker 3: prepackaged or whatever more than once a week. It's it's expensive,
Speaker 3: isn't it.
Speaker 1: Anyway?
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm out of touch. You tell me one three
Speaker 3: one eight seven three? Okay, Now, Peter of Earlwood, Hello, Peter?
Speaker 11: Hello?
Speaker 1: How are you? I'm good? How are you? That's more important?
Speaker 10: Okay?
Speaker 3: I'm a little well, why I'm the one who's got
Speaker 3: to spin the wheel. You just you just win, You
Speaker 3: just you're going to get something Okay, now what do
Speaker 3: you now? We've got twenty five hundred, seven hundred fifty
Speaker 3: fifteen hundred d D's group voucher. We've got go to
Speaker 3: Denti Genie fifteen. There's all sorts of stuff like.
Speaker 1: Are you ready?
Speaker 4: I'm ready?
Speaker 1: You sure?
Speaker 4: You know what?
Speaker 1: Here we go.
Speaker 3: I'll give you a choice because I'm a you know,
Speaker 3: I'm a I'm a capitalist kind of guy. You want
Speaker 3: to go clockwork clockwise or any clockwise?
Speaker 1: Your choice?
Speaker 11: No, go clockwise.
Speaker 1: Here we go, rounding goes round round round.
Speaker 3: Clinton Manas just turned up to see how it's done,
Speaker 3: because there's a you know, it's all in the wrist
Speaker 3: this one, Peter, how's five hundred.
Speaker 8: Bucks, Peter, It's awesome.
Speaker 3: It's coming your way. Five hundred dollars. You know we
Speaker 3: were one tick away from fifteen hundred. That's why I
Speaker 3: was a little hesitant. But five hundred better than a.
Speaker 1: Poker and eye.
Speaker 4: Thank you for listening, Thank you so much.
Speaker 3: Five hundred Okay, well done, Peter, Peter of Earlwood, five
Speaker 3: hundred dollars wealthier, just for listening to two GB in
Speaker 3: winter time. Now we call this the winter Wheel, and
Speaker 3: we're going to be spinning the wheel in breakfast mornings
Speaker 3: afternoons in Sydney now with Clinton. So stay listening for
Speaker 3: your chance to do what Peter did and win on
Speaker 3: Sydney's two GB.
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Speaker 3: See Clinton. It's all in the wrist. That's that's the key.
Speaker 3: You just give it a you know, listen to that.
Speaker 3: What a beautiful sound.
Speaker 16: Well, congratulations to Peter for picking up the five hundred dollars.
Speaker 16: And you'll see that I'm wearing a special hat, Michael.
Speaker 1: Yes, the blue Leprecorn.
Speaker 16: I've got the blue Eleprecorn hat because the presenters are
Speaker 16: required to wear this hat when they're spinning the wheel.
Speaker 1: I note that you didn't know about that.
Speaker 16: I'll be wearing the hat because I think it'll give
Speaker 16: me some superpowers needed because I did hear what you
Speaker 16: had to say about me learning the program, and look
Speaker 16: at those where you suggested that I wouldn't actually have
Speaker 16: the strength to spin the wheel.
Speaker 1: It's much. It's a particularly robust wheel.
Speaker 16: I've been training over the weekend in preparation for the
Speaker 16: wheel spinning, So I'm very confident. Whoever ring, I think
Speaker 16: we'll take the fifth caller through when I have not yet,
Speaker 16: not yet, don't call it yet. Later in my program,
Speaker 16: we'll take the fifth caller. Whoever's the fifth caller can
Speaker 16: be assured that we're going to have one almighty spin.
Speaker 1: This is the song that never ends, the spin that
Speaker 1: gives for six minutes.
Speaker 16: So I'm very confident we're going to win a crack
Speaker 16: all cracking prizes and fantastic, wonderful prize, hundred dollars in
Speaker 16: Peter's wallet.
Speaker 1: How good's that?
Speaker 16: But I'm just reading a survey that's been released here
Speaker 16: by an organization be called the Bee World Co. And
Speaker 16: it says that many of us at work have mentally
Speaker 16: checked out, that we're struggling, that we feel we have
Speaker 16: no support. And that's sort of the way I felt, Michael,
Speaker 16: when you describe my physique at the right. Apparently there's
Speaker 16: a massive problem in this country. It's costing employees seven
Speaker 16: billion dollars annually forearms present. T is Oh, have you
Speaker 16: heard about presents presentism. Okay, it's the opposite to absenteeism. Right,
Speaker 16: So it's instead of taking a sickie, people are turning
Speaker 16: up to work and then just not bothering performing while
Speaker 16: they're at work.
Speaker 1: Right, Nothing worse for productivity than people going to work.
Speaker 16: They're physically there, so it can't go down as a
Speaker 16: sick day. Survey shows seventy six people. Seventy six percent
Speaker 16: of people feel unsupported. They're languishing because of the impact
Speaker 16: of their peers. What yah, So I'm reading this while
Speaker 16: I'm hearing you being highly critical of my strength and
Speaker 16: my ability to spin the wheel, and thinking, well, am
Speaker 16: I victim of maybe an example of presentism?
Speaker 3: Perhaps perhaps I just want to set for the record
Speaker 3: now that Clinton has taken this personally, that you have
Speaker 3: particularly beautiful arms.
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you, Michael. Well, that's shape.
Speaker 16: It's years of hard work.
Speaker 1: The statue of David comes to mind. The arms. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about, years of hard work.
Speaker 16: Yes, we'll be covering everything that's happening in Sydney now
Speaker 16: this afternoon and hurting their shooting at all. Well, and
Speaker 16: tell you this is just come to my attention right now.
Speaker 16: The premiere has just put our statement, Chris Minn says,
Speaker 16: this is shockingly brazen. New South Wales Police Force investigators
Speaker 16: a hunting nowl zerver spot that was responsible. We don't
Speaker 16: stand for it. New South Wales Police do not stand
Speaker 16: for it. The New South Wales Police forces level charges
Speaker 16: in relation to twenty the twenty five organized crime murders
Speaker 16: since twenty twenty one, and they're not done yet. People
Speaker 16: committing this kind of violence can expect to be arrested,
Speaker 16: in charged and spend their years inside small jail cells.
Speaker 16: So we'll cross straight out to Auburn at the start
Speaker 16: of the program. Our reporter Josh Bryant is on the way.
Speaker 3: I believe it was about quarter pass one that the
Speaker 3: bullets allegedly rang out. Of course that time you've got
Speaker 3: people there having lunch nearby Auburn train station. It's a
Speaker 3: there's a suggestion in the Telegraph that people have been
Speaker 3: shot outside a kebab shop and a nearby tobacconist. Whether
Speaker 3: there's a connection to the premises or that's just happy
Speaker 3: to be what was there at the location, I'm not
Speaker 3: going to speculate, but this is South Parade in Auburn.
Speaker 4: Ye.
Speaker 16: Look, I've had to look at some of the vision
Speaker 16: that came from the Channel nine chopper a short time ago,
Speaker 16: and I could see the paramis were working out police everywhere,
Speaker 16: a fruit shop as well, So it's a shopping strip
Speaker 16: that's very busy that time of the afternoon.
Speaker 1: So we'll cover all that throughout the program, all right,
Speaker 1: and spin the wheel and the winter wheel and all
Speaker 1: sorts of other stuff coming up.
Speaker 16: Certainly be giving away lots of money.
Speaker 1: Will you wear the headphones that way for the whole
Speaker 1: show as well? They're upside down for the benefit of
Speaker 1: the listeners.
Speaker 16: The reason that the headphones were upside down is because I.
Speaker 1: Was wearing the hat, right, So no one told me
Speaker 1: about that.
Speaker 16: Hat, and I couldn't put the headphones over the hat,
Speaker 16: that's true. So while spinning the wheel.
Speaker 3: I had kind of suits. You know, I'm not good
Speaker 3: with hats, no, but I think you could be. That's
Speaker 3: got a bit of the ascot about it.
Speaker 16: If it's too classy for the Shire, well it's blue.
Speaker 1: You got the right colors.
Speaker 3: Thanks Clinton, Clinton Maynard and the big forearms coming up
Speaker 3: straight after three o'clock as he spins that wheel one three,
Speaker 3: one eight seven three.
Speaker 1: Let's see what else is happening in the news. Aaron,
Speaker 1: good afternoon.
Speaker 9: Hello there, Michael will As you have just been talking
Speaker 9: about paramedics of Rush to treat three men who have
Speaker 9: been shot at Auburn in a crime the premiere is
Speaker 9: describing as shockingly brazen. A police officer has been shot
Speaker 9: dead in Tasmania. It's claimed he was shot while approaching
Speaker 9: a home in the state's northwest. One person's been arrested.
Speaker 9: US President Donald Trump says he believes there's a good
Speaker 9: chance there'll be a deal between Israel and Iran, although
Speaker 9: missiles are still firing between the two countries. And finalists
Speaker 9: for the Logis have been announced for the top award,
Speaker 9: the Gold Logi for Most Popular TV Personality. There are
Speaker 9: six women and one man. In sport, the Blues have
Speaker 9: trained in Perth ahead of wednesday nights State of Origin
Speaker 9: two watching on from the sidelines for all Western Australian
Speaker 9: cricket legends Mike Cussie and Justin Langer. And there'll be
Speaker 9: more news at three.
Speaker 1: O'clock on afternoons.
Speaker 2: A finance update for Pretzel Wealth and Finance for Trusted
Speaker 2: Financial Planning Just Google Blake went to Pretzel.
Speaker 3: All right, let's cross to Scott Phillis from the Motley
Speaker 3: full dot com dot Monday. Those are the numbers, Scott
Speaker 3: good afternoon. Two big players in the furniture market, Freedom
Speaker 3: and Amart.
Speaker 14: They've merged, have they, Michael will Good Afternoon, Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 14: These were both businesses still one still is owned by
Speaker 14: private equity, and there was suspicion or reporting anyway that
Speaker 14: they would try and list on the ASX over the
Speaker 14: next twelve months or so. Now listing an individual smaller
Speaker 14: one is one thing. If you can combine both businesses,
Speaker 14: and in this case Amar's bought Freedom Furniture, you're going
Speaker 14: to run them together. Now one hundred and twenty six
Speaker 14: stores in total, more than one hundred million dollars an
Speaker 14: annual learnings. That's pretty much a large enough chunk then
Speaker 14: to be listed on the ASX with some decent amount
Speaker 14: of heft. Of of course, there some competition as well
Speaker 14: from those otherwise might be why one might cannibalize the other.
Speaker 14: So yeah, really really ching times. Of course, you know,
Speaker 14: virgin is coming onto the ASEX next week, maybe Freedom
Speaker 14: and Amart not too far away. At this stage at
Speaker 14: least they're running them both as separate brands. Whether that
Speaker 14: remains the case up listing as an open question, but yes,
Speaker 14: potentially another retil of the furniture retailer. Listen on the
Speaker 14: ASX in Duke course, interesting too when you think about
Speaker 14: the growth of businesses like Temple and Webster. They are
Speaker 14: an online only furniture retailer and they are growing at
Speaker 14: an absolute rate of knots. So yeah, interesting times for
Speaker 14: the furniture in general, so their physical furniture and these
Speaker 14: two companies soon possibly listed on the ASEX.
Speaker 1: That will be something to watch. Ok.
Speaker 3: Now, the markets and the dollar, how are they faring
Speaker 3: with everything going on around the world. Of course, oil
Speaker 3: prices will be going north, You've got.
Speaker 14: To say, much better than you'd expect. By the way, Hey,
Speaker 14: the energy sector on the ASEX up five and a
Speaker 14: half percent today, and we say energy, you can substitute
Speaker 14: oil and no surprise there. The overall market up a
Speaker 14: tenth of one percent, despite the fact the futures were
Speaker 14: down this morning. The ASEX of the all Lord's currently
Speaker 14: eighty seven hundred and seventy seven points, the only dollar
Speaker 14: going backwards by about the same margin half a tenth
Speaker 14: of one percent against the US dollar sixty four point
Speaker 14: eight to us.
Speaker 1: All right, Scott, thank you.
Speaker 3: Scott Phillips there from the Motley Fullfull dot com dot
Speaker 3: au on the people that do take away a lot
Speaker 3: because they're too tired to cook. An interesting note from
Speaker 3: Mark here, who says, my current neighbors eat take out
Speaker 3: every night as they don't cook. Really, I remember when
Speaker 3: I worked with Brian wilshere this would be going back
Speaker 3: fifteen years at least now, and he was making the
Speaker 3: point back then that in New York there were some
Speaker 3: of these condo apartments or whatever they that were being
Speaker 3: built without a kitchen, and the reason was that people
Speaker 3: they'd have a microwave or something in a cupboard essention
Speaker 3: that had a little sink, but there's no kitchen because
Speaker 3: they just weren't cooking. They whatever they were doing busy
Speaker 3: long jobs or something like that, and they'd go to
Speaker 3: a restaurant or they'd get takeaway or take out whatever
Speaker 3: the Americans call it, every night of the week, and
Speaker 3: so they didn't really have a need for a kitchen
Speaker 3: and all the cupboards and the pantry and the storage
Speaker 3: and all the appliances that go with it. They had
Speaker 3: a little barfridge and a microwave oven and of sink
Speaker 3: and that was sort of that was it a kitchenette
Speaker 3: at best, And I thought, oh, you've got to be joking. Really,
Speaker 3: how can you live without a kitchen? But it seems
Speaker 3: that that sort of mindset is percolating Australia bit by bit.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think it's going to catch on.
Speaker 3: I can't really imagine the next episode or season of
Speaker 3: the Block where they don't do a kitchen reveal. But nonetheless,
Speaker 3: there are some people clearly out there that this is
Speaker 3: the way they do business. They must have deep pockets
Speaker 3: and long arms, because there's no way that even if
Speaker 3: you're absolutely exhausted and zonked, it would be cheaper doing
Speaker 3: takeaway every night of the week than cooking at home.
Speaker 3: And then you know, you put in the glass container
Speaker 3: the leftovers for the next day's lunch. That's what I've
Speaker 3: got here, bit of a beef stew from last night.
Speaker 3: It wasn't bad either. I'll give you the tip heat
Speaker 3: it up later on beautiful. Okay, that's how you do it.
Speaker 3: But look, I just hope these people aren't the ones
Speaker 3: complaining about cost of living pressures.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3: One three, one, eight, seven three more after the break
Speaker 3: better go twenty one to three just before we get
Speaker 3: to travel on this issue of home security systems and
Speaker 3: the like. I had a text earlier from someone up
Speaker 3: on the Northern Beaches who said, look tomorrow at the
Speaker 3: council meeting on the agenda and the notices of motion,
Speaker 3: there's going to be one of these Palestinian motions put forward.
Speaker 3: It's going to be put forward by the Greens Council
Speaker 3: or one of the Greens councilors, I believe. So you
Speaker 3: look at the agenda for tomorrow under the point fourteen
Speaker 3: notices of motion, the first one is to do with
Speaker 3: tobacco stores and organized crime. Okay, that's kind of relevant
Speaker 3: considering the news of the late of late. There's a
Speaker 3: notion to do with cambora public school. Local council have
Speaker 3: some skin in the game there. But in between those
Speaker 3: there's the notion of notice of motion number twenty four
Speaker 3: slash twenty twenty five, support for the Northern Beaches Palestinian
Speaker 3: community and a cease firing gaza. Well, there has that
Speaker 3: got to do with the Northern Beaches Council. Now I'm
Speaker 3: going to go out on a bit of a limb here.
Speaker 3: I would imagine there's not a huge Palestinian community up
Speaker 3: Avalon Way, but even if there were, they've chosen to
Speaker 3: live there, not on the eastern flank of the Mediterranean Sea.
Speaker 3: So what's this all about? And they're calling for a
Speaker 3: cease firing gars. Now look, you seriously think that passing
Speaker 3: a motion, should it be passed in the Northern Beaches Council,
Speaker 3: it's going to make its way.
Speaker 1: Over to Gaza or to tell a viv where it
Speaker 1: really matters.
Speaker 3: And you Net and Yahu and others go, oh, criky, jeez, Well,
Speaker 3: I know the Americans, the British want this, the Germans
Speaker 3: want this, the Australians want this. You know, the Scandinavians
Speaker 3: want this. But we've resisted. But now the straw that's broken,
Speaker 3: the camel's back the Northern Beaches Council.
Speaker 1: Oh well quick seas far Now, really, who are these pelukas?
Speaker 3: Seriously, I guess you get the councilor as you vote
Speaker 3: for And this is what happens in part when the
Speaker 3: Liberals don't get their act together and put people.
Speaker 1: Up for nomination.
Speaker 3: But I mean, you know this sort of nonsense really
Speaker 3: stick to the Knitting People one three one eight seven three.
Speaker 3: All right, now back to this issue of security. We
Speaker 3: had a lot of feedback about this earlier. I guess
Speaker 3: the question is how protected is your home? I mean,
Speaker 3: do you even give this enough thought? I mean, all
Speaker 3: your assets are there, including your human assets, your family,
Speaker 3: Yet how well protected are they in your home? Your
Speaker 3: home's your castle? Will Have you got the equivalent of
Speaker 3: the moat and the turrets? Do you have security cameras.
Speaker 1: Out the front? If you do, are they effective? Do
Speaker 1: you think they're effective? Do you check? Do you know?
Speaker 13: Well?
Speaker 3: According to the new Southwest Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research,
Speaker 3: the number of break and enter crimes is actually decreased
Speaker 3: on homes by thirty eight percent over the last decade. Now,
Speaker 3: whether that's because we're all sticking these cameras up, left,
Speaker 3: right and center, or whether it's something else, I don't know.
Speaker 3: But according to doctor Alsma Bernaut, a lecturer in Technology
Speaker 3: and crime at Griffith University, the key here is to
Speaker 3: make your home and I quote her here as unattractive
Speaker 3: for the thief as possible. She says, it's good to
Speaker 3: have a fence, it's good to have a dog, it's
Speaker 3: good to have any sort of device that might look
Speaker 3: like a camera, even if it's not. But you know,
Speaker 3: as the technology behind security cameras becomes ever more advanced
Speaker 3: and more complex, it is hard, I think, to know
Speaker 3: what's what, what's worth the extra cost, what works, what doesn't,
Speaker 3: Whether any of these have implications for your own privacy
Speaker 3: and your own security. I mean a lot of this
Speaker 3: stuff's uploaded to the cloud, after all, could it be hacked?
Speaker 3: These are all relevant questions. Trevor Long no stranger to
Speaker 3: this network. He's eftm's editor, technology expert, all around nice guy,
Speaker 3: and he joins me to break it all down.
Speaker 1: Trevor, Good, afternoon, afternoon, Michael. Security cameras.
Speaker 3: I mean, they are sort of becoming kind of ubiquitous now,
Speaker 3: but are they worth the investment?
Speaker 7: Well, I think if you go back ten years or more,
Speaker 7: it used to be quite a large investment and quite
Speaker 7: a complex task. So you would buy something that required
Speaker 7: wiring in the home. You had to get an installer
Speaker 7: to put it in. But today you can walk into
Speaker 7: a major retailer, pick up a camera for a couple
Speaker 7: hundred dollars and get home and have it working on
Speaker 7: your smartphone, giving you alerts and recording vision via just
Speaker 7: Wi Fi and battery power within minutes. So the fact
Speaker 7: that it's become easy has made it, I think desirable
Speaker 7: to people's grown the market. But I think the last
Speaker 7: time I saw numbers from security camera companies was still
Speaker 7: very very low penetration overall, like twenty or thirty percent
Speaker 7: of home. So there's still a huge potential for more
Speaker 7: people to have security cameras, And I think that kind
Speaker 7: of balance between or do I really need them and
Speaker 7: are they effective? Is the question that most people have.
Speaker 3: This sort of technology has mushroomed, though, has it not,
Speaker 3: Because not only do people have these security cameras fixed
Speaker 3: on the eaves or whatever strategically placed, and whether they're
Speaker 3: capturing images or not. The idea is that there would
Speaker 3: be burglar sees that I don't want to run the risk,
Speaker 3: I'll go next door.
Speaker 1: But it's not just those sort of cameras.
Speaker 3: I mean, we've got these ring door bells, all sorts
Speaker 3: of things now that have cameras built into them. We
Speaker 3: seem to have these eyes on the world everywhere, which
Speaker 3: we didn't have even fifteen years ago.
Speaker 7: It's completely achievable for under a thousand dollars certainly to
Speaker 7: have visual on every corner of the extra of your home.
Speaker 7: And I think that the light is actually one of
Speaker 7: the most important parts of it. And if you walk
Speaker 7: up to my house, once you step on the driveway
Speaker 7: and keep stepping down it, my place lights up like
Speaker 7: the MCG the light after light, because it's a deterrent
Speaker 7: that even the smallest light indicates there's something there that
Speaker 7: detected you. And then a large floodlight comes on. If
Speaker 7: you decide to go all the way to the front door,
Speaker 7: there's another light and another camera there. And while it's
Speaker 7: not going to stop every potential crime from happening, I
Speaker 7: don't even think that, but I do believe that that
Speaker 7: deterrent is enough for certainly the petty crime style to
Speaker 7: have diminished in most of the communities around the place.
Speaker 7: You know, if you're the house in the street with
Speaker 7: the cameras and the three around you are not. I
Speaker 7: do think that those other homes are the ones that
Speaker 7: are going to be targeted.
Speaker 1: Well, there at a disadvantage.
Speaker 3: I mean, you're not the insurance expert, you're the tech expert,
Speaker 3: But do you have any idea whether the insurance companies
Speaker 3: through home and contents policies are asking or reflecting on
Speaker 3: this technology being rolled out and adjusting premiums accordingly for those.
Speaker 1: That invest in this.
Speaker 7: I've never had an insurance company ask me for that information,
Speaker 7: so whether I've got security cameras, but I have had
Speaker 7: someone ask me to come and help them with security
Speaker 7: cameras because their insurance broker was what they said, had
Speaker 7: got them a better deal based on that. So it
Speaker 7: may exist in the market, it may not be for
Speaker 7: your average every day home and contents plan. But again,
Speaker 7: it's kind of one of those things where the reason
Speaker 7: I would argue the insurance aren't going to do that
Speaker 7: is because they can't guarantee that you bothered to charge
Speaker 7: the batteries on it. So even though you said you
Speaker 7: had cameras, did you change the battery on it after
Speaker 7: three to six months? And are you maintaining them? Is
Speaker 7: it always recording? There's a lot of variabilities around these cameras.
Speaker 7: They're not all constantly recording like a security camera of old.
Speaker 1: No, they're not.
Speaker 3: A number of them are now hardwired in electricians I
Speaker 3: spoken to say that they're doing this all the time,
Speaker 3: that this kind of work.
Speaker 7: The battery operated ones created this surge in the market.
Speaker 7: Then I'm a huge advocate for them because I love
Speaker 7: the fact that people have that kind of just piece
Speaker 7: of minded vision. But in the last twelve to eighteen months,
Speaker 7: some brands like Allow and Indi then have come out
Speaker 7: and an even ring who do those video doorbells have
Speaker 7: come out with wired versions. You do need to spark
Speaker 7: you to install, yes, but because they're hardwired, because they're
Speaker 7: constantly powered, they are able to constantly send vision back.
Speaker 7: So that is an advantage to the hard powered versions
Speaker 7: of these cameras.
Speaker 3: Let's look at this the flip side, because there's an
Speaker 3: almost an irony baked in here that some people having
Speaker 3: put security cameras in too concerned that their own security
Speaker 3: and privacy has been compromised if these things are running
Speaker 3: twenty four seven, and indeed people don't sometimes just have
Speaker 3: them outside. People have got sort of cameras inside the house,
Speaker 3: should the baby sit to be there or whatever's going on.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's privacy issues are plenty there.
Speaker 3: But equally, how open is this sort of technology to
Speaker 3: nefarious actors and hackers?
Speaker 1: Because a lot of this is going up to the cloud.
Speaker 7: Isn't it Essentially, no one is going to tell you
Speaker 7: that any any concept, any technology is one hundred percent foolproof.
Speaker 7: I'd be mad to say That'd be like, you know,
Speaker 7: a telco saying there's no chance their network's going to
Speaker 7: go down. We all know it can and will happen.
Speaker 7: So I would argue that my philosophy here is big brand,
Speaker 7: major retail. If you're this is, this is, and I've
Speaker 7: always got another tangent. But it's like the electric scooter
Speaker 7: battery issues. Right, if you're buying these things on Ali
Speaker 7: Barba on the internet and buy a Team Wu from China,
Speaker 7: I cannot guarantee the battery on those things. I think
Speaker 7: it's the same with security cameras. If you're going for
Speaker 7: the lowest common denominator in price, you're going for some
Speaker 7: you know, a two bit operation that's just started up
Speaker 7: and they're selling things via Instagram because they found that
Speaker 7: they can import a thousand cameras and sell them for
Speaker 7: one hundred bucks each. Sorry, they don't have the corporate
Speaker 7: backing the security credentials. That are big brands, and you
Speaker 7: know there are really only a few, and when you
Speaker 7: go into a JBS or a Harvey's, you see ah Low,
Speaker 7: you see unid M, you see Swan, you see Ring.
Speaker 7: These are brands that even people listening right now that
Speaker 7: don't have these cameras may well recognize.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 7: For me, a W record brand doesn't guarantee safety and security,
Speaker 7: but it certainly says that they have the credentials and
Speaker 7: the business backing to have security at front of mind.
Speaker 3: Okay, just finally, then, from a psychological point of view,
Speaker 3: I mean, what's going on here? Because I mean, is
Speaker 3: it I go back to my grandparents generation and I
Speaker 3: don't want to dwell in the past, although I'm known
Speaker 3: for doing that as you know. But you know, old
Speaker 3: Arnie Grace would sleep on the front veranda in the
Speaker 3: Inner West with no more than a mosquito net over right.
Speaker 3: You know, these days hardly I don't think there'd be
Speaker 3: anyone listening now that wouldn't lock the front door, bolt
Speaker 3: the windows, whatever, even in.
Speaker 1: A posh suburb.
Speaker 3: So what is going on here with this increasing desire
Speaker 3: for people to turn the external, the externality of their
Speaker 3: properties into something looks like pentridge.
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, it's it's about protecting that most valuable
Speaker 7: asset and the things inside it. As you said in
Speaker 7: your intro. Everything in your home is precious to you,
Speaker 7: whether it's the keys to the car and in the
Speaker 7: garage or the family heirlooms. You want to have that protection.
Speaker 7: And if that protection is now easier and more more
Speaker 7: readily available, why not take it? You know, lock the door,
Speaker 7: lock the windows, and arm the security cameras. Again, go
Speaker 7: back to my childhood, and you remember you used to
Speaker 7: have friends that might have had a bigger, fancy house,
Speaker 7: and inside they had they had the pin code, you know,
Speaker 7: to keep it. I never had one of those security
Speaker 7: systems at my house, but now when I leave the home,
Speaker 7: I can open an app on my phone and go
Speaker 7: the arm the system. It can be it can be
Speaker 7: done on a schedule, it can be done automatically. But
Speaker 7: I can also, for peace of mind, go yeap arm
Speaker 7: the system. And so I know that at the very least,
Speaker 7: if someone does get in, grab something and leave, I've
Speaker 7: got a vision of them on many angles, and I'll
Speaker 7: feel at least a little bit better that I can
Speaker 7: say to the police. Hopefully this helps you, and I
Speaker 7: don't know, you just feel better about it.
Speaker 3: I know in our area we get all these Facebook groups,
Speaker 3: community groups and They're forever posting stills from their security
Speaker 3: cameras about young guys trying to knock the car off
Speaker 3: or steal something from the veranda or whatever.
Speaker 1: So that's that EMA is now being used, and that
Speaker 1: wasn't available without the.
Speaker 4: Camera I've seen.
Speaker 7: I've seen local shops that have shared photos from very
Speaker 7: simple security cameras as well in those groups. And that's
Speaker 7: why I say again the flood light style camera. Again,
Speaker 7: go back to our childhood and remember the old floodlight
Speaker 7: would come on sensor based. Well, now imagine that floodlight
Speaker 7: has a camera in it. So not only do you
Speaker 7: get the oh, here's light for me when I get
Speaker 7: home at safety, but here's light for that person coming
Speaker 7: in one am in the morning just sussing out my home,
Speaker 7: going to peek through the windows. No, no, I've got
Speaker 7: you on camera in color. Don't even knock on the door, buddy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just make sure you smile, all right. Trevor, thank you,
Speaker 1: good information.
Speaker 3: Appreciate it a lot of the best terror Trevor long
Speaker 3: there tech guru, We love him, of course. The editor
Speaker 3: of e FtM. I don't know, you might be one
Speaker 3: of these camera people. All of a sudden do you
Speaker 3: feel safer? Is it sort of just psychologically you feel safer.
Speaker 3: A few people saying, read the insurance thing. It depends
Speaker 3: who you ask. Someone here said they were with you
Speaker 3: or they switched to UI because in fact they asked them,
Speaker 3: do you have cam Yes?
Speaker 1: Okay, Well here's the reduction. That's what I'm gleaning out
Speaker 1: of that text. Hope I've got that right.
Speaker 3: Someone else says they might give you a reduction if
Speaker 3: the cameras are linked to a back to base alarm
Speaker 3: sort of system.
Speaker 1: So you just got to look at all of the
Speaker 1: fine print. But it is interesting. I would have thought
Speaker 1: that a lot of the security of.
Speaker 3: The insurance companies would have rewarded people that invested in this,
Speaker 3: but maybe only if it does have the back to
Speaker 3: based componentory. It is seven minutes to three, okay for
Speaker 3: training commuters. It doesn't rain at pause. This just threw
Speaker 3: from the Transport Management Center. No trains running between Hurstville
Speaker 3: and Sutherland on the T four so is due to
Speaker 3: power supply issues between Walley Creek and Sutherland. Now replacement
Speaker 3: buses have been requested, but I see they haven't started running.
Speaker 3: Just to repeat, no trains are running at the moment
Speaker 3: between Hurstville and subtle And on the T four. That's
Speaker 3: due to power supply issues between Walley Creek and Subtherland.
Speaker 3: The replacement buses not yet ready. We've had this shooting
Speaker 3: earlier this afternoon. Also out of a statement just threw
Speaker 3: from the Police Minister Yasmud Catley that says we're deeply
Speaker 3: concerned by the horrifying events unfolding in Auban this afternoon.
Speaker 3: Multiple people have been injured in this public place shooting.
Speaker 3: Our thoughts are with them and their loved ones. This
Speaker 3: kind of violence has no place in our community. It's horrifying,
Speaker 3: it's unacceptable, and it shakes the sense of safety that
Speaker 3: we all deserve.
Speaker 1: Well, that's it for us, of course, Clinton coming up next.
Speaker 3: Don't forget the winter Wheel Lots of wonderful prizes on
Speaker 3: the largest to repeat quickly. No trains running between Hurstville
Speaker 3: and Subtland on the T four. Those replacement buses have
Speaker 3: been requested.