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Speaker 2: Big Tree Matt is a big Tigers fan, Gus, and

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Speaker 2: he wants to know what you think of Tailor May's signing. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Look, I know the May Boys pretty well. They were

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Speaker 1: very young at the time, probably had more to do

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Speaker 1: with Tyrant than the other two boys. But I've certainly

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Speaker 1: met them a number of times since I know the family,

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Speaker 1: I know the history of the family, so I've got

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Speaker 1: something of a soft spot for all of them. And

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Speaker 1: i think in a lot of respects they're misunderstood and misread,

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Speaker 1: and you know, people can to form their opinion on

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Speaker 1: these players and the way they carry themselves and that themselves.

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Speaker 1: I've always found them to be very honor east and

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Speaker 1: sincere players, very loyal sort of players. I know They've

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Speaker 1: had their trials and tribulations over the years. I think

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Speaker 1: the May Boys need their rugby league. I think it's

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Speaker 1: an important part of their life and i think without

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Speaker 1: it they would you know. I think they would struggle

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Speaker 1: without their football. They've also had a desire to play

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Speaker 1: together in the same club. They all were at Panthers

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Speaker 1: when they were young, but circumstances have seen that they've

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Speaker 1: all been split up over the years and there's been

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Speaker 1: a desire for them to get back and play for

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Speaker 1: the one club. Terrell is now with the Tigers. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure if Taylor, I was sure that if he was

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Speaker 1: given the opportunity, Taylor would have liked to have gone

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Speaker 1: to the Tigers again. Now which has happened, and if

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Speaker 1: they go well, I can see where Tyrone may even

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Speaker 1: come back and play for them in the future as well.

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Speaker 1: He's over there in Whole k Are at the moment

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Speaker 1: and going really good in the English Super League. Look

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Speaker 1: deep down, their good kids. I can understand how people

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Speaker 1: may feel about different things and things that have happened

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Speaker 1: in their history, and I'm pretty much up to speed

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Speaker 1: with all of it. And I think it's good for

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Speaker 1: Tailor that he's got another opportunity and I hope he

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Speaker 1: makes the most of it. And I hope the made

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Speaker 1: boys finish off their careers and all goes well for them.

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Speaker 1: I really do, And I hope the one day they're

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Speaker 1: all playing together, which is their desire, which will be

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Speaker 1: good for their family and in all other aspects. I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to answer this without giving too much away, but

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Speaker 1: also in support of the boys at the same time

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Speaker 1: understanding how public opinion may vary with that because of

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Speaker 1: the way things.

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Speaker 2: Get reported or.

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Speaker 1: The troubles that they've had in their own lives outside

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Speaker 1: of football. So but you've seen what Terrell's done for

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Speaker 1: the Tigers. He's a tremendous footballer, so to Tailor, Talan's

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Speaker 1: a terrific footballer, and it's unfortunate what's happened to his

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Speaker 1: career through injury and other circumstances. So I think he's

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Speaker 1: a great signing for the West Tigers if he can

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Speaker 1: get back to his best. And more importantly, I havee

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Speaker 1: that football is good for Tailor for the rest of

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Speaker 1: his career as well and sets him up for the

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Speaker 1: rest of his life. And then maybe the three brothers

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Speaker 1: will be reunited at some stage down in the future,

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Speaker 1: but that's up with the Tigers, and that's in the

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Speaker 1: lap of the gods, to be honest. But yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think for West Tigers they should embrace him, and I

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Speaker 1: think they should trust him and trust the club and

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Speaker 1: trust the management on the decision they've made that have

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Speaker 1: done their due diligence. They have got to meet him

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Speaker 1: and I think it's great that they've given him an

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Speaker 1: opportunity and Rugby League can do that and hopefully Tailor

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Speaker 2: Okay, Hamish wants to know Gus. The Warrior have been

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Speaker 2: playing particularly well. Better than that, what do you think

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Speaker 2: has been the biggest contributor to their success?

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Speaker 1: Well, a couple of factors. Time together and the Warriors

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Speaker 1: have been on a mission. Out of the last three

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Speaker 1: little bit of work with the Warriors back was during

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Speaker 1: the COVID period when they're over here based in Australia,

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Speaker 1: the Central Coast and they're all living away from home

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Speaker 1: period there for a while, and I think that that

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Speaker 1: time has sort of galvanized the club and said it

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Speaker 1: on a course, I think their owner, Mark Robinson is

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Speaker 1: an exceptional human being. An exceptionally successful businessman who's taken

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Speaker 1: I think one of the things we we set about

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Speaker 1: doing it those stages, in the early stages were setting

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Speaker 1: up pathways programs for them get them back in the

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Speaker 1: junior rep competitions Here in Australia. The NRL came to

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Speaker 1: the party by paying the airfares so that they could

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Speaker 1: get themselves involved in the Harold Matt's Competition, the SG Board,

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Speaker 1: the Jersey Fleg and the New South Wales Cup, and

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Speaker 1: I think that was vital to the development of the

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Speaker 1: Warriors club and bringing them forward. And they're doing extremely

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Speaker 1: well in those competitions. I think they've won a couple

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Speaker 1: They're leading the New South Wales Cup by a long way,

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Speaker 1: not only as their first grade going side going really well,

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Speaker 1: It's a very very strong side. And we're seeing the

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Speaker 1: emergence of a number of players that have come out

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Speaker 1: of that Pathways program and the development they're doing there

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Speaker 1: there are so many talented young kids over there in

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Speaker 1: in New Zealand. There's plenty of talent there and the

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Speaker 1: Warriors have really got their act together in that regard,

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Speaker 1: and we're starting to see that with some fellows that

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Speaker 1: before this year were probably unknown are coming in and

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Speaker 1: showing just how talented they are. They've also recruited really well.

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Speaker 1: You know, some of the some of the buyers they've

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Speaker 1: made have been very strategic and they've also released some

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Speaker 1: And I think the other factor is probably the recruitment,

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Speaker 1: fortunately of James Fisher Harris, who's come from a full

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Speaker 1: time premiership winning club. Are very very proud kiw and

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Speaker 1: you know, from what I understand, he's taken his work

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Speaker 1: ethic and he's professionalism and the value of being in

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Speaker 1: the premiership winning player to the Warriors and given them

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Speaker 1: new direction. You know, Mitch Barnett the other night, he

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Speaker 1: once a yew whiz. He's out for the season, but

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Speaker 1: they brought some kids in and just they just ran

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Speaker 1: rough shot over the Sharks, didn't they It's way too

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Speaker 1: good for them. So now it's it's a team on

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Speaker 1: the rise, and it's only it's only going to get better.

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Speaker 1: The scary part about the Warriors, this is only the start.

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Speaker 1: This honestly is only the start. You know, whatever they

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Speaker 1: in the next two or three years. This same squad,

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Speaker 1: exceptional blog. Mark Robinson, the owner and the CEO Cameron

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Speaker 1: George is one of the smartest in the game, really

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Speaker 1: really smart operator. It's just those two blocks. There's no

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Speaker 1: board of directors, there's no you know, they're not set

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Speaker 1: Mark Robinson. His father actually sponsored the New Zealand Kiwei.

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Speaker 1: He's back in the seventies and eighties. He had a

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Speaker 1: which was dedicated to his father's time in sponsoring the

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Speaker 1: the New Zealand Kiwei's the national team for a number

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Speaker 1: New Zealand. They've always been in rugby league. Mark Robinson,

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Speaker 1: the owner, played as a young fellow, pretty wild sort

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Speaker 1: He's just brought that expertise and how he's built his

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Speaker 1: Cameron George is a very very smart operator, very very

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Speaker 1: good operator. And the Warriors are in great hands and

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Speaker 1: they're going to be a force for a long period

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Speaker 1: of time because Mark's in it for the Mark's a winner,

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Speaker 1: Mark's in it for the long haul. He's I had

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Speaker 1: the very good fortune then when we were over in

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Speaker 1: Cameron invited me to a staff function. They have a

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Speaker 1: will be winning the premiership this year, and you know

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Speaker 1: he was really confident about it. But that's the confidence

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Speaker 1: he exudes. That's just what he is. He's a real

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Speaker 1: He's a very very successful businessman. But you only need

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Speaker 1: to look at the way he's staff and the people

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Speaker 1: He's a special human being. The owner, Mark Robinson, and

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Speaker 1: there's no there was never any doubt that the Warriors

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Speaker 1: were going to be a success eventually. And they are

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Speaker 1: now and they're only going to get better. You are

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Speaker 1: seeing the tip of the iceberg. For years and year

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Speaker 1: and years we've been saying the Warriors should be a juggernaut.

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Speaker 1: Well strap yourself in, baby, because it's coming. And it's

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Speaker 1: whatever they do this year, and they could easily win

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Speaker 1: the competition this year. Whatever they do this year, they're

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Speaker 1: going to be better in years to come. It's very

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Speaker 1: very exciting for the game. I think you know, the

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Speaker 1: year that the Warriors can win a competition, it's going

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Speaker 1: to be great for the National Rugby League. It's going

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Speaker 1: to be great for our code. And I know that's

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Speaker 1: his sole mission at the moment. His father passed away

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Speaker 1: some years ago, and before he passed away, he said

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Speaker 1: to Mark, you've got to promise me one thing. He said,

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Speaker 1: what's that? He said, don't ever buy the New Zealand

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Speaker 1: the Warriors. Don't ever buy the Warriors. Mark said, I

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Speaker 1: promise I won't. He did.

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Speaker 2: I went.

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Speaker 1: I went to his sixtieth birthday party across that he

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Speaker 1: told the story. He said, yeah, my dad said, don't

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Speaker 1: ever buy the Warriors. Because I think that asked a

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Speaker 1: few times and he said, Okay, of course now he did.

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Speaker 1: He loves it.

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Speaker 2: He loves it. Mark absolutely scared him to a title.

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Speaker 2: And they're not too distant future, they're going enormous stiff.

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Speaker 2: With a two pronged question, who decides which players room together?

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Speaker 2: Is it the players or the coaches or some other system?

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Speaker 2: And secondly, do you have any funny roommate stories?

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Speaker 1: No, no, I will Usually the coaches try to. I

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Speaker 1: You know, and that goes back way back, even into

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Speaker 1: It was going to be the most difficult on tour.

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Speaker 1: So the captain might have his own room, but other

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Speaker 1: than that they all buddy up. There have been some

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Speaker 1: don't know what the setup is these days. I've never

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Speaker 2: But have you ever had a player I just blatantly

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Speaker 2: refused to room with someone who they've been allocated to No.

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Speaker 1: No. There was a famous story many many years ago

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Speaker 1: and Steve Mortimer was a bit of a whiz kid,

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Speaker 1: course when they get to the room, there's a double

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Speaker 1: Steve Morter on the bed. He said, what are you doing?

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Speaker 1: He said? Steve said nothing much mate. He said can

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Speaker 1: you make us a cup of tea, to which Tommy

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Speaker 1: and threw him off the double bed. Steve got up

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Speaker 1: and said, do you want one milk or two? One

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Speaker 2: Whoever thought that was a good idea was misguided.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think they get it wrong every now

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Speaker 1: and then. I think that's the story heard. I've heard

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Speaker 1: both of them tell it. It was a little less

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Speaker 1: You think you're going to try and mend a broken relationship,

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Speaker 2: I think Lee Martin and Cameron Munster are going to

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Speaker 2: be sharing a room or kangaroo to it.

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Speaker 1: I think there mate, I think their mates. I think

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Speaker 1: it's all I've put on.

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Speaker 2: Oh you sure? Oh there's a bit of tension there.

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Speaker 2: They went at each other in the origin again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's what made to do.

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