WEBVTT - Wake Up Australia with Phil O'Neil - Thursday 19th June

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<v Speaker 1>This onto GB four, BC and network stations. This is

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<v Speaker 1>Wake Up Ostrodia with Pill O'Neill.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Here we are crawling on our hands and knees wrapped

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<v Speaker 3>around at Doner towards the weekend. Certainly need it. In

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<v Speaker 3>Sydney this morning six degrees as I ventured the four

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<v Speaker 3>feels like three degrees, although Wayne in castle Hill said, Phil,

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<v Speaker 3>it's minus two in Gunda guy right now, so it

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<v Speaker 3>would feel even colder. Here we are Thursday morning, nineteenth

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<v Speaker 3>of June, and it is seven minutes past four. Luke

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<v Speaker 3>Bona's going to join us in half now. He's been

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<v Speaker 3>on holiday. It's the Boner Report. He'll take your calls.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got some interesting things to talk about. Lots to

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<v Speaker 3>get to before we get in that direction. Let's how

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<v Speaker 3>I look at the front page of the newspapers, and

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<v Speaker 3>on the front page of most of the papers it's

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<v Speaker 3>the Victorious Blues as well. Oh oing, and sorry I've

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<v Speaker 3>got the wrong paper there. It is Victorious Queensland. So

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<v Speaker 3>that's the update here, hammer blow for the Brave Blues,

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<v Speaker 3>New South Wales and Queensland all square in the state

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<v Speaker 3>of origin. But there's a nice couple of photos of

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<v Speaker 3>the Blues, although looking quite dejected. No, it's all about Queensland,

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<v Speaker 3>isn't it really? The big survivors. The front page of

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<v Speaker 3>the Australian have the Queensland victorious players on the front

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<v Speaker 3>there and some news about what's going on with Jim

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<v Speaker 3>Charmers in his moment of truth. This story in The Australian.

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<v Speaker 3>Jim Charmers has declared tax reforms is needed and will

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<v Speaker 3>be needed to fund growing spending on defense and the

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<v Speaker 3>care economy, while warning that the traditional revenue streams will

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<v Speaker 3>be threatened by the net zero transmission as he left

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<v Speaker 3>the door open to raising the GST, increasing levees on

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<v Speaker 3>resources and charging electric car drivers for using the roads.

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<v Speaker 3>Front page of the Australia front page, Sidney Morning Herald.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's more Game two of the State of Origin

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<v Speaker 3>hammer Blow to the Brave Blues Queensland twenty six, New

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<v Speaker 3>South Wales twenty four. Well it's a good game though,

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't it close? One of the best origin games I

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<v Speaker 3>think for a while. And also on the front page

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<v Speaker 3>of the Sydney Morning Herald this story that the US

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<v Speaker 3>President Donald Trump has demanded unconditional surrender from Iran as

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<v Speaker 3>it conflicts continue with Israel, and that escalates and tensions

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<v Speaker 3>grow within the Republican Party about whether the world's most

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<v Speaker 3>powerful military should become directly involved and yet another Middle

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<v Speaker 3>East theater of war. Trump Camp split over of Ryan's

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<v Speaker 3>the headline there front page of the Age in Melbourne. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>there's nothing there about the state of origin. It's all

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<v Speaker 3>about the return of the Big v That's what you

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<v Speaker 3>can find there from the sports contribution to the world

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<v Speaker 3>and to Australia from the and the story is about

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<v Speaker 3>the Patterson isolated and worried lawyer story. This is about

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<v Speaker 3>Aaron Patterson. It wasn't scrambling around in the bush looking

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<v Speaker 3>for killer mushrooms. She wasn't a cold blooded killer. She

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<v Speaker 3>was instead an isolated warrior trying to gain love and attention.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the picture defense barrister Colin mandy Ssi painted of

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<v Speaker 3>his client yesterday as he urged the Supreme Court jury

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<v Speaker 3>to put themselves in her shoes as they consider whether

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<v Speaker 3>Patterson is guilty or not guilty of murder. That's the

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<v Speaker 3>Age for your camera times. This is a story about

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<v Speaker 3>the Director of Public Prosecution saying she remains extremely concerned

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<v Speaker 3>about her office being underfunded with extra money for another

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<v Speaker 3>Witness Assistance Service officer, and that wouldn't meet the current demand.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the DPP's budget warning. But also on the front

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<v Speaker 3>page of the Camera Times the photo of the awful

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<v Speaker 3>street signs and they look pretty terrible. So roads signs

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<v Speaker 3>that steer visitors around our city, but they're creating an

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<v Speaker 3>appalling first impression. Tourism leaders say, and I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if this photo of the street sign in Camera has

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<v Speaker 3>been doctored or aied at all. I don't think it has.

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<v Speaker 3>But bloody ell, it's in a state. If you live

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<v Speaker 3>in Camera really want to fix up your street signs

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<v Speaker 3>because they look terrible. Can't imagine what condition the roads are.

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<v Speaker 3>In Financial Review Treasurer Jim Chalmers has pledged to lead

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<v Speaker 3>an overhaul of Australia's tax system that will include lower

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<v Speaker 3>income taxes but no changes to the GST, as he

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<v Speaker 3>admits taxes overall would probably need to rise to repair

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<v Speaker 3>the budget. There's your Financial Review and the front page

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<v Speaker 3>of the Courier Mail. Oh the Queensland did win really

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't get that picture a bigger On the front page

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<v Speaker 3>of the Courier Mail. Maroon's triumph in Origin classic. Well

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<v Speaker 3>done to our listeners listening in through four BC. Peter

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<v Speaker 3>Figan will be crying on about that big time. This

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<v Speaker 3>morning from five to thirty, Queensland kept the State of

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<v Speaker 3>Origin series alive, holding off a fast finishing New South

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<v Speaker 3>Wales side to triumph twenty six to twenty four in Perth.

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<v Speaker 3>Cameron Munster, in his first match as captain, inspired the

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<v Speaker 3>Maroons to a famous victory. And that was a big

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<v Speaker 3>victory too as well earned. But boy it was a

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<v Speaker 3>good match, wasn't What a great call from Levy on

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<v Speaker 3>the Continuous Call team that would have to go down

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<v Speaker 3>as possibly one of the best origins of all time

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<v Speaker 3>and keeping, as they say, Queensland keeping the State of

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<v Speaker 3>Origin series live one one. What will happen next? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to come down to a terrific cliffhanger, just

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<v Speaker 3>the way you like your footy, all right. Thirteen minutes

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<v Speaker 3>past four. Ben Fordham here at five point thirty this

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<v Speaker 3>morning on two GB Sydney, followed by the great Man

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<v Speaker 3>of the Continuous Call who never gets any sleep And

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<v Speaker 3>I'd like to know how much Emity sooth as he

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<v Speaker 3>takes to keep himself a float too. That'll be Mike

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<v Speaker 3>Levy on the way this morning on two GB from night.

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<v Speaker 3>Next up, though, we go to Tel Aviv Lisa Sangalov,

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<v Speaker 3>who's an Australian and she lives in Israel, and what's

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<v Speaker 3>her day to day life like and what's the situation

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<v Speaker 3>from her back window. We'll get to her next and

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<v Speaker 3>it is sixteen minutes past four. I'm fella il ben

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<v Speaker 3>Fordham here this morning at five point thirty. Let's go

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<v Speaker 3>to near tel Aviv. Lisa Segalov's on the phone. I'd

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<v Speaker 3>say near tel Aviv because I'm not sure exactly where

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<v Speaker 3>abouts you are. Where are you, Lisa, Good morning, Good morning.

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<v Speaker 4>I live about thirty kilometers north of Tel Aviv in

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<v Speaker 4>a city called Hotta Sharon.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, what's the situation like there? Now, I'm late to

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<v Speaker 3>believe that you were down in a bunker before when

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<v Speaker 3>the sirens went off. You're back up up above that.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, yeah, there were about about an hour and a

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<v Speaker 4>half ago there was notice that there were submissal headed

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<v Speaker 4>our way, and we get a notice of now ten

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<v Speaker 4>minute warning that comes on your phone. It's called an

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<v Speaker 4>emergency alert, and that tells you you've got ten minutes

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<v Speaker 4>to race into the shelter, and ninety seconds before the

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<v Speaker 4>missiles are about to hit, there's a siren, so you

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<v Speaker 4>have to be in the shelter by then close the

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<v Speaker 4>door and just sit and then you can hear all

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<v Speaker 4>the booms going off. And usually I have to wait

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<v Speaker 4>about twenty minutes after that until you get another message

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<v Speaker 4>on your phone that you can go out.

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<v Speaker 3>And so what kind of bunker is it a communal bunker?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it one that's set up near you, or is

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<v Speaker 3>it your own one?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, because the house is built after nineteen ninety two,

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<v Speaker 4>we have our own safe room, what you call a bunker.

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<v Speaker 4>So we are very lucky. About half of Israel has

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<v Speaker 4>a bunker, and the other half then either use public

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<v Speaker 4>bunkers or they at the bottom of the building an

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<v Speaker 4>apartment building, they will have ones under the ground. But

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<v Speaker 4>what's happened to people that don't have adequate shelters is

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<v Speaker 4>that they've taken underground car parks and set up mattresses

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<v Speaker 4>for people and provisions so people can have snacks when

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<v Speaker 4>they're there. So people will come, say at the first siren,

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<v Speaker 4>which happened an hour ago, and they'll come with their

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<v Speaker 4>family and just spend the whole night there and wake

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<v Speaker 4>up in the morning and then go back home.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've noticed that. Yeah, I saw some photos of

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<v Speaker 3>that that that quite a few families do go down

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<v Speaker 3>to those underground car parks as well. And how does

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<v Speaker 3>that work? Do you get a situation where it becomes

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<v Speaker 3>almost too crowded?

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<v Speaker 4>No, because they're massive, right, and they're everywhere. So they

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<v Speaker 4>cleared out a lot of underground car parks and they're massive.

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<v Speaker 4>They've killed it up the light rail stations to underground

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<v Speaker 4>so people can sleep there as well. People have opened up,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, their houses to other people in Tel Aviv.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes they'll write on the pavement outside, you know, please,

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<v Speaker 4>you're welcome to come. If you're walking by and there's

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<v Speaker 4>a siren, come down and be with us. And that's

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<v Speaker 4>just how it is at the moment.

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<v Speaker 3>And so how used to the sirens going off? Has

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<v Speaker 3>life become now where you are? I mean, it's just

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<v Speaker 3>because it's happening a lot. Is there still a sense

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<v Speaker 3>of trepidation that this is going to happen? Or has

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<v Speaker 3>it become just as I said, a sort of a

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<v Speaker 3>day to day event.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, we're six days into this war and it's very surreal.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything has closed down. There's no schools, there's no government

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<v Speaker 4>officers working. You're not allowed to go and work in

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<v Speaker 4>your office, even if you have a safer Places of

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<v Speaker 4>entertainment are closed. Beaches are clothes, public swimming pool the clothes.

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<v Speaker 4>So there's not very much to do, and only essential

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<v Speaker 4>services are running and only supermarkets are open. So that

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<v Speaker 4>that sort of adds to the atmosphere of where we are.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't think you ever get used to it.

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<v Speaker 4>When you're in the shelter, the booms that come are

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<v Speaker 4>very very loud. You're in a concrete bunker and you

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<v Speaker 4>can hear these booms above you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's scary.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, of course, of course, is there a sense of

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<v Speaker 3>course that you know the situation there might escalate or

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<v Speaker 3>you just is everybody just taking it one moment at

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<v Speaker 3>the time.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we're just living from one siren to the

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<v Speaker 4>next at the moment and trying and hoping that there's

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<v Speaker 4>not a lot of damage and there's no more loss

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<v Speaker 4>of life from outside. And I don't think that we're

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<v Speaker 4>really worried, you know, about what will be. We've just

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<v Speaker 4>got to keep going. It's the emergency regulations have been

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<v Speaker 4>set to take to be enforced until the thirtieth of June,

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<v Speaker 4>so that's still two weeks away, and we're just updated,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, as it happens.

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<v Speaker 3>And so how good is the media information that you're getting?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it really clear? Is it really precise? Do you

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<v Speaker 3>have a really good idea or a good feeling that

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<v Speaker 3>you know exactly what's going on.

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<v Speaker 4>In terms of what's happening here we're the missile landing

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<v Speaker 4>and what's happening, yes, for sure, and the media on

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<v Speaker 4>top of it you understand. Actually you know if something

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<v Speaker 4>is close to you, then you know it's fallen near

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<v Speaker 4>you or it's been intercepted near you. What's happening over

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<v Speaker 4>in Iran? And we're getting reports of what is happening,

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<v Speaker 4>what the results are of attacks, how they're doing it,

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<v Speaker 4>and why it's happening, and what the target is and

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<v Speaker 4>what the next target is that we won't know. That's

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<v Speaker 4>all military planning.

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<v Speaker 3>How are things like supplies in supermarkets and things like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you run short of supplies?

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<v Speaker 4>At first there was a shortage of milk, what went

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<v Speaker 4>with milk, bread and toilet paper, but they restocked pretty

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<v Speaker 4>quickly and no, it's people bought what they had to buy,

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<v Speaker 4>and they know that supermarkets will be open. That's an

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<v Speaker 4>essential service. So there's no real panic now about anything.

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<v Speaker 3>But how do you have some sense of normality because

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<v Speaker 3>and especially at the moment too, because I mean this

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<v Speaker 3>area also has a history of course, where there's always

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<v Speaker 3>something going on that could, you know, turn into a

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<v Speaker 3>complete disaster. How do you keep a sense of normality

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<v Speaker 3>on a day to day.

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<v Speaker 4>Basis, Well, you don't really if you've been up three

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<v Speaker 4>or four times during the night. The other night there

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<v Speaker 4>was a missile at eight o'clock, twelve o'clock, at two thirty,

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<v Speaker 4>and five thirty, so you basically didn't sleep at night.

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<v Speaker 4>And for families with little kids, they're just putting their

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<v Speaker 4>kids in the concrete bunker, whether it's a private one

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<v Speaker 4>or a public one. And the kids that's trying to

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<v Speaker 4>sleep through the night. But the adults they're up and down,

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<v Speaker 4>they're looking after their kids. And so there's really not

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<v Speaker 4>any normality in what what's happening. If you really and

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<v Speaker 4>if you stop to think about it, what's happening, you

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<v Speaker 4>just get caught up with it and it's a bit

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<v Speaker 4>too scary. So you've just got to go with the

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<v Speaker 4>flow and just keep on going, try and do a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit of work here and there, Try and do

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit of exercise here and there, and time passes.

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<v Speaker 3>And how do you explain to the kids what's going on?

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<v Speaker 3>Do they have you know? Do you try and protect

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<v Speaker 3>them from as much information as possible or have you

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<v Speaker 3>found that most people have tried to be honest with

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<v Speaker 3>the kids.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I think most people are very honest with the kids. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>we're only sixteens into this war, but we've been in

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<v Speaker 4>bomb shelters in and out for the last twenty months.

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<v Speaker 4>I must say that these last few days are more

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<v Speaker 4>of them, and the booms allowed that, and so it's

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<v Speaker 4>a bit scarier. Most kids are sleep through the night,

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<v Speaker 4>so they won't hear that. But really, with social media

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<v Speaker 4>and media today, really kids, except for very little kids,

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<v Speaker 4>they sort of know what's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>And can I ask how old your kids are? How

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<v Speaker 3>many you have?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I've got four kids, and my oldest is my

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<v Speaker 4>oldest is twenty nine, and my youngest is twenty and

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<v Speaker 4>my youngest is still serving her compulsory military service in

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<v Speaker 4>the Israeli Army and the others are in reserve duty.

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<v Speaker 4>But at the moment, they're not haven't been called up,

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<v Speaker 4>right of course.

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<v Speaker 3>And obviously that's something that you're concerned about all the

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<v Speaker 3>time as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, that's correct, That is correct. There are a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of people that have been called up, a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>my relatives, my family that lived here, Nitha's nephew's cousins,

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<v Speaker 4>and so we're all in contact. We're actually all in contact.

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<v Speaker 4>Every time there's a siren, we check on each other

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<v Speaker 4>and we just coined there by day, hour by hour.

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<v Speaker 3>At the moment, all right, Well, our thoughts are with you,

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<v Speaker 3>and our hearts are with you as well, Lisa, because

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it must be none of us can really

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<v Speaker 3>get obviously a proper comprehension of what life must be

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<v Speaker 3>like for you on a day to day basis. So

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<v Speaker 3>our thoughts are with you and all the best. Thank

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<v Speaker 3>you so much, Lisa, Thank you very much. That's Lisa

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<v Speaker 3>there near tell Tell tel Aviv, who obviously, as we've

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<v Speaker 3>found out, I mean, like you know, it's it's surreal,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's it's impossible for us in the life that

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<v Speaker 3>we have, the day to day lives that we have,

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<v Speaker 3>to we even imagine ourselves in that situation and how

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<v Speaker 3>we would deal with it, and especially too if you

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<v Speaker 3>had kids, you know what you would tell kids. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>we really are again, it just reinforces how lucky we

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<v Speaker 3>are to live in the country that we live, don't

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<v Speaker 3>you think. Twenty seven minutes past four Okay, let's get

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<v Speaker 3>to the news after this. Got your sports update as well,

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<v Speaker 3>and then we will get to Luke Boner with the

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<v Speaker 3>Boner Report where it is four point thirty morning Meck

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<v Speaker 3>from Winston Hills. Thank you for your text, and also

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<v Speaker 3>Chris who just sent me a text there through as well,

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<v Speaker 3>and Matt got your one too. Phil, you have me

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<v Speaker 3>questioning myself. I always pronounce maroons Maron's and then you

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<v Speaker 3>say maroons. Let's call the whole thing off, says Maddie. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>you're absolutely right. We should get you know, I should

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<v Speaker 3>get that, absolutely right you would think. However, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>still going with the blues and still got the blues

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<v Speaker 3>for you, my friend. Let's get the news update.

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<v Speaker 1>And now on Wake Up Australia News today.

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<v Speaker 3>Starting in Sydney two GB Dusty Fitzpatrick, Morning to you,

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<v Speaker 3>my friend. What have we got going on?

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<v Speaker 5>Phil? Good morning to you. This year's State of Origin

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<v Speaker 5>series has been sent to a designer, with Queensland securing victory.

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<v Speaker 5>In Perth, the Marons edged out the Blues twenty six

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<v Speaker 5>points to twenty four. Donald Trump hasn't ruled out the

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<v Speaker 5>United States joining Israeli strikes on Iran. The President told

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<v Speaker 5>reporters he may do it, he may not do it.

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<v Speaker 5>Iran and Israel continue to trade strikes and firefighters working

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<v Speaker 5>to contain a blaze at a factory in Sydney's Inner West.

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<v Speaker 5>Sixteen fire trucks are on the scene at Marrickville and

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<v Speaker 5>phil There'll be more news at the top of the hour.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, let's go from two GB Sydney to three AW

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<v Speaker 3>in Melbourne, Jordan Tunbridge, Morning Jordan. What have you got

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<v Speaker 3>for us? Mate?

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<v Speaker 6>Good morning? Making news in Melbourne. The driver of a

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<v Speaker 6>stolen white SUV who drove its speed inside Melbourne's Northland

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<v Speaker 6>Shopping Center remains on the run. The center was placed

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<v Speaker 6>into lockdown as the land Cruiser crashed through bollards and

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<v Speaker 6>into the center. Miraculously, no one has been seriously injured,

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<v Speaker 6>with paramedics treating two people at the scene. The defense

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<v Speaker 6>barrister for accused mushroom killer Aaron Patterson has told her

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<v Speaker 6>triple murder trial his clients might be a liar, but

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<v Speaker 6>he is not a killer. As he continues his closing address,

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<v Speaker 6>Colin Mandy sc has told the court he's more material

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<v Speaker 6>to get through. This dress should be completed sometime this morning.

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<v Speaker 6>We've had an earthquake down here at two point nine

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<v Speaker 6>magnitude tremor at Rawson near to Raugen yesterday. No reports

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<v Speaker 6>have damage since then, and the home of Melbourne's beloved

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<v Speaker 6>skipping Girl has undergone a multimillion dollar makeover. The Neon

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<v Speaker 6>lit figure the inner city suburb of Abbotsford has been

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<v Speaker 6>a fixture here for nearly ninety years. That's what's making

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<v Speaker 6>news in Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you Jordan Tunbridge, who I did call Junden there

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<v Speaker 3>a moment ago, so I do apologize, although Jane from

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<v Speaker 3>Brisbane I'm sure now known as Jill from Brisbane will

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<v Speaker 3>be able to ring me up in just a moment

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<v Speaker 3>and tell me off for my pronunciation.

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<v Speaker 1>A sports update thanks to west End Motor Group incorporating

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<v Speaker 1>Paramatta and Blacktown Master, two great Master dealerships saying great people,

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<v Speaker 1>saying great service seven days a week.

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<v Speaker 3>ZI rock band wolf Mother took to the stage ahead

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<v Speaker 3>of the State of Origin Game two with their two

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<v Speaker 3>thousand and six hit Joker and the Thief. I thought

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<v Speaker 3>it was quite good, but the performance failed to fire

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<v Speaker 3>up the crowd. Despite their global fan base, the band's effort,

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<v Speaker 3>led by the frontman Andrew Stockdale, was met with more

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<v Speaker 3>groans than cheers. You just wouldn't take the gig, would you.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's the kind of job. It's a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit like being the leader of the Liberal Party or

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<v Speaker 3>the captain of the Australian cricket team. Why would you

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<v Speaker 3>want to go out there unless you're going to really

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<v Speaker 3>knock it out out of the ground, which I thought

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<v Speaker 3>wolf Mother would do to be honest. But anyway, social

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<v Speaker 3>media led up with a whole bunch of criticism NRL

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<v Speaker 3>stuck in a time warp, one viewer tweeted, another one

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<v Speaker 3>went I hope wolf Mother didn't cost anything. Some fans

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<v Speaker 3>described it as dead set awful and joked that everybody

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<v Speaker 3>cheered when it was over. Well, I disagree. I thought

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<v Speaker 3>it was actually a really good performance by wolf Mother.

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<v Speaker 3>You might want to disagree or agree on the text

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<v Speaker 3>zero four six zero eight seven three eight seven three.

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<v Speaker 3>Few people defended the performance as brief, but it was enjoyable.

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<v Speaker 3>Speaking about enjoyable, nothing like the big coll last night

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<v Speaker 3>from the continue you was call team. Once again, Levy

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<v Speaker 3>also smashed him out of the past.

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<v Speaker 1>State of Origin twenty twenty five, Game two from OPTAs Stadium, Perth.

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<v Speaker 7>There's the whistle underway robson.

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<v Speaker 8>He goes away to clearing looking for runners, gives the

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<v Speaker 8>pass on the blue eye. Who ain't gonna put a

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<v Speaker 8>little kick trow But he's a move bysa there bo

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<v Speaker 8>time he got that tried kidding a way to Toyer.

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<v Speaker 8>Turn on the outside of the hammer scars. Why are

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<v Speaker 8>they gonna go in outside? The Queenslanders HAMERSA tam you iver?

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<v Speaker 8>Now it's six four you sound well? I was leading Queenslander.

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<v Speaker 8>Wait a dead and a cruftfield kick leaping into the air.

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<v Speaker 8>Hemisaf tam you idad?

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<v Speaker 9>Want to try me?

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<v Speaker 10>That is unbelievable. He left the bot plug a whist

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<v Speaker 10>comes dangle plug.

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<v Speaker 1>A free man dugger.

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<v Speaker 10>Then he plans to violence got the try.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh beautiful, what a call great man? Levy once again,

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<v Speaker 3>as I said, knocks it out of the park. I

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<v Speaker 3>should get Boner's response on that. We'll get him up.

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<v Speaker 1>Now on Wake Up Australia each time for the.

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<v Speaker 3>How are you my friend?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 11>Look, I've done a lot in radio, but calling football

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<v Speaker 11>is at one of them. I know my limitations and

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<v Speaker 11>don't you dare go there. I shan't be doing that.

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<v Speaker 11>As the Big Man would say.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh lads, Clint Eastwood would say, a man's got to

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<v Speaker 3>know his limitations.

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<v Speaker 10>What's going on? What we have here is a failure

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<v Speaker 10>to communicates exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a different one. That was Paul Newman. So you've

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<v Speaker 3>just had your daughter get married. You had a nice

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<v Speaker 3>little so journ. We enjoyed your escapades on the Instagram,

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<v Speaker 3>so I hope that was enjoyable for you.

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<v Speaker 11>It was a great day and it was terrible weather

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<v Speaker 11>all day and then about an hour before the ceremony,

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<v Speaker 11>the skies opened and the blue sky came out. It

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<v Speaker 11>was just a really good day of family and friends

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<v Speaker 11>getting together. She's married a beautiful boy. I love him

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<v Speaker 11>to death. And so there you are one down, one to.

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<v Speaker 3>Go, all right, Not that you're counting. What do you

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<v Speaker 3>want to talk about this week?

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<v Speaker 11>I had a really interesting comment station on my podcast

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<v Speaker 11>Bona Fire with Luke Bona The other day with a

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<v Speaker 11>bloke that you talk to fairly regularly.

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<v Speaker 10>I understand Shane Oliver Ye find it's the chief economist

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<v Speaker 10>with AMP.

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<v Speaker 11>And people would listen to Shane and think, gee, he's

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<v Speaker 11>a bit of a stiff, he's a square, he's an accountant,

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<v Speaker 11>he's an economist. No, next time you talk to Shane,

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<v Speaker 11>try and find a bit of extra time up your sleeve, Phil,

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<v Speaker 11>because this guy is a character and he loves his music.

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<v Speaker 11>And we got onto the topic of how we listen

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<v Speaker 11>to music today. Now Shane and I are the same vintage.

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<v Speaker 11>You're the same vintage. We're all about the same time.

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<v Speaker 11>And we grew up listening to albums. When we were

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<v Speaker 11>little kids.

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<v Speaker 10>We probably bought.

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<v Speaker 11>Forty fives singles, and then maybe when we got a

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<v Speaker 11>bit of pocket money and we reached high school, you'd

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<v Speaker 11>lash out and you'd buy a whole album.

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<v Speaker 10>And I loved the whole vinyl album thing. I miss it.

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<v Speaker 10>I miss it a lot.

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<v Speaker 11>And you drop the needle side one, track one and

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<v Speaker 11>you listen to it all the way through, just like

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<v Speaker 11>the artist and the producer intended. And now listening to music, well,

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<v Speaker 11>it's very very easy to do through apps like Spotify.

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<v Speaker 11>And I'm not picking on Spotify because I use it.

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<v Speaker 10>It's handy.

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<v Speaker 11>I've got a Spotify playlist that I play in the car,

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<v Speaker 11>and I've hand picked cherry picked my favorite songs and

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<v Speaker 11>they all come up in the row for me. But

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<v Speaker 11>I miss the album experience. And I just wonder how

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<v Speaker 11>many of our listeners this morning remember the wonderful time

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<v Speaker 11>you had going to a record store and buying an

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<v Speaker 11>album and listening to the whole thing, discovering songs that

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<v Speaker 11>the record company would never have released as a single

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<v Speaker 11>because the artist's revenue are absolutely absolutely relied on radio airplay,

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<v Speaker 11>and songs had to be cut down to three and

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<v Speaker 11>a half minutes. In the sixties and seventies it was

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<v Speaker 11>two and a half minutes. Songs like Hey, Jude, American Pie,

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<v Speaker 11>et cetera, Bohemian Rhapsody. They broke the mold and went

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<v Speaker 11>a bit longer. But album music, I think is missing.

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<v Speaker 10>What do you make of it, philm You'll hear the

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<v Speaker 10>same age as me.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, but yeah, and you're absolutely right. And also

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<v Speaker 3>there've been a complete failure of rock bands on the

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<v Speaker 3>music charts. It's all about solo artists. They've been hardly

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<v Speaker 3>any in fifteen years. I think there's been about two.

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<v Speaker 3>But that was the thing. It was part of it,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it was a narrative, the beginning song and

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<v Speaker 3>the end song, everything was even though it wasn't a

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<v Speaker 3>concept album, it was put in that order by the artists.

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<v Speaker 3>So you go on a journey and you're absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that whole, the enjoyment and the aesthetic feel

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<v Speaker 3>of the record and taking it home and pulling it out.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I don't think that's ever going to come back,

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<v Speaker 3>to be honest.

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<v Speaker 10>It's a shame.

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<v Speaker 11>I mean, there is a comeback of vinyl, but I

0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:50.919
<v Speaker 11>mean it'll never come back CDs or the end of vinyl,

0:25:50.960 --> 0:25:54.480
<v Speaker 11>and now you've got digital downloading and that's the way.

0:25:54.440 --> 0:25:54.960
<v Speaker 10>Things are going.

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<v Speaker 11>And I think it's a shame for the artists because

0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:01.560
<v Speaker 11>you know, Spotify, while it's given a lot of artists

0:26:01.800 --> 0:26:05.840
<v Speaker 11>a big platform, artists are missing out. I mean, back

0:26:05.880 --> 0:26:08.600
<v Speaker 11>in the day, it was album and record sales that

0:26:08.720 --> 0:26:12.280
<v Speaker 11>drove their revenue and then that led to touring. Now

0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:14.439
<v Speaker 11>you look at the amount of bands that tour now,

0:26:15.200 --> 0:26:17.639
<v Speaker 11>it's very very hard, very good made of mine. One

0:26:17.640 --> 0:26:20.320
<v Speaker 11>of my best mates is Michael Hope who runs Hope

0:26:20.320 --> 0:26:23.160
<v Speaker 11>of State in the Hunter Valley and he has big concerts.

0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:26.639
<v Speaker 11>But it's very hard to get promoters to have the

0:26:26.840 --> 0:26:31.560
<v Speaker 11>courage to do this now because traveling is expensive. Artists

0:26:31.600 --> 0:26:34.880
<v Speaker 11>from overseas they want first class in business airfares. There's

0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:39.119
<v Speaker 11>an entourage, and it's a really expensive exercise. And if

0:26:39.160 --> 0:26:42.720
<v Speaker 11>you look at Hope of State, pardon me, have the

0:26:42.760 --> 0:26:47.280
<v Speaker 11>capacities twenty thousand, the artist won sixty thousand.

0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:50.000
<v Speaker 3>I'll let you have a drink of water while I

0:26:50.080 --> 0:26:51.840
<v Speaker 3>just quickly pick up this. And the thing is that

0:26:52.119 --> 0:26:55.360
<v Speaker 3>bans these days, Luke, you know, the only way they're

0:26:55.359 --> 0:26:57.440
<v Speaker 3>going to get the money that they used to have

0:26:57.880 --> 0:26:59.960
<v Speaker 3>is to tour, because there is no money in any

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:02.680
<v Speaker 3>thing else. And you're right. The touring now also has

0:27:02.760 --> 0:27:05.120
<v Speaker 3>to be scaled back to such an extent that it's

0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:07.680
<v Speaker 3>almost like a do it yourself experience. But the only

0:27:07.720 --> 0:27:09.399
<v Speaker 3>way the bands can make money is to go on

0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:12.760
<v Speaker 3>tour in a limited capacity. But the other thing that

0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:15.720
<v Speaker 3>the bands make a lot of money on is merchandise.

0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:18.840
<v Speaker 3>And even if we think, you know, merchandise is incredibly expensive.

0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:20.480
<v Speaker 3>You know, if you go and see a band by

0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 3>the T shirt, because they also rely on that.

0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:28.080
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, you know, but we don't know the finances.

0:27:28.160 --> 0:27:32.080
<v Speaker 11>We don't know how much percentage the actual musicians are

0:27:32.119 --> 0:27:33.679
<v Speaker 11>getting out of all of this, because there's a lot

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:36.960
<v Speaker 11>of people wanting a piece of that pie. But it

0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:40.680
<v Speaker 11>just got me thinking, what was the first album you

0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:44.880
<v Speaker 11>actually went and bought? Because I remember I was gifted

0:27:45.560 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 11>led Zeppelin two Christmas Day in nineteen seventy. I skipped

0:27:50.160 --> 0:27:53.120
<v Speaker 11>one and I got led Zeppein two and that put

0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:56.520
<v Speaker 11>me on a journey. And of course led Zeppron four

0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:58.600
<v Speaker 11>is still one of the biggest selling albums of all time,

0:27:59.200 --> 0:28:03.159
<v Speaker 11>but it's downloaded. I was thinking Michael Jackson's Thriller, it

0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:06.720
<v Speaker 11>still tops the list. I remember going out and buying

0:28:07.080 --> 0:28:11.920
<v Speaker 11>the Rolling Stone Sticky Fingers because of Brown Sugar and

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 11>can't you hear Me Knocking?

0:28:13.640 --> 0:28:16.000
<v Speaker 10>And I just wonder how many.

0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:20.840
<v Speaker 11>Of our listeners around our vintage remember going out and

0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:22.639
<v Speaker 11>buying their first album.

0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:25.200
<v Speaker 10>I wonder what it was and do they still listen

0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:26.520
<v Speaker 10>to it in its.

0:28:26.560 --> 0:28:29.800
<v Speaker 3>Entirety one, three, one, eight seven three. That was part

0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:32.399
<v Speaker 3>of the experience going to a record shop. And I

0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:34.840
<v Speaker 3>remember I used to hang out in the record shop too,

0:28:34.840 --> 0:28:37.080
<v Speaker 3>and you'd meet people back in the day, you know,

0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:39.400
<v Speaker 3>you'd say, okay, I'll meet you with sounds and whatever

0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:41.040
<v Speaker 3>it happened to be back in the day that was

0:28:41.080 --> 0:28:42.200
<v Speaker 3>before mobile phones.

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:43.640
<v Speaker 10>That's right.

0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:47.880
<v Speaker 11>But Shane Oliver, who puts an economic slant on all

0:28:47.920 --> 0:28:50.640
<v Speaker 11>of this, had had this to say to me on

0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:51.880
<v Speaker 11>my podcast yesterday.

0:28:52.960 --> 0:28:55.360
<v Speaker 3>Oh this is sorry. I wasn't ready. I wasn't ready

0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:55.560
<v Speaker 3>for that.

0:28:56.640 --> 0:28:59.080
<v Speaker 12>I have this problem when I listened to stuff on Spotify,

0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:01.880
<v Speaker 12>I don't value it same degree. So if an artist

0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:04.680
<v Speaker 12>puts out like this, groups and bands that I like,

0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:06.480
<v Speaker 12>and I'll go and buy their CD or and the

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:08.520
<v Speaker 12>old days a record or a cassette or something, and

0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:10.720
<v Speaker 12>then I would I would look at it and look

0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:13.080
<v Speaker 12>at the pictures, and look at the write the songs,

0:29:13.160 --> 0:29:16.240
<v Speaker 12>and get obsessed with it and listen to each song

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:19.800
<v Speaker 12>several times. Whereas these days you get everything on Spotify,

0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 12>you just zip over the songs you don't like, and

0:29:21.880 --> 0:29:23.520
<v Speaker 12>so you don't value it to the same degree.

0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 3>And I think that's kind of sad in a way. There,

0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:27.920
<v Speaker 3>you got funny. You were pointing out me.

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:33.760
<v Speaker 11>Has Spotify sanitized the way we listen to music and

0:29:33.840 --> 0:29:37.600
<v Speaker 11>has it taken away the wonderful experience of listening to

0:29:37.760 --> 0:29:41.520
<v Speaker 11>an album, as you used to say, drop the needle

0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:46.280
<v Speaker 11>and let it go through and experience the whole thing.

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:51.560
<v Speaker 11>Has Spotify taken away some of the romance attached to

0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:52.880
<v Speaker 11>purchasing music.

0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:53.800
<v Speaker 10>There's my question.

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:56.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, one three, one eight seven three. And also let

0:29:56.560 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 3>us know about the first record you brought here with Boner,

0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:01.720
<v Speaker 3>Luke Boner and the report. The other thing too, is

0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:04.280
<v Speaker 3>that you know, if you're buying something off Spotify and

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:07.280
<v Speaker 3>it's on your phone, you don't have anything. You never

0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:10.920
<v Speaker 3>because music's so disposable, you never actually have anything that

0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:14.040
<v Speaker 3>you can hold in your hand, even like a CD.

0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:18.480
<v Speaker 11>You know. And before we bought albums when we were little,

0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:22.040
<v Speaker 11>we bought forty five. So remember my first forty five

0:30:22.200 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 11>was the Seekers, all of their own.

0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:27.360
<v Speaker 3>So there you are, one three, one eight seven three.

0:30:27.600 --> 0:30:29.400
<v Speaker 3>Give us a call right now. In the Boner Report,

0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:33.320
<v Speaker 3>had it is sixteen minutes to five. Luke Booner joins

0:30:33.400 --> 0:30:35.840
<v Speaker 3>us with the Boner Report, you were talking about people's

0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:38.600
<v Speaker 3>first records. I've got some texts that came through. Jeanette said.

0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 3>First one was bridge over Troubled Water, can't go past. Yeah,

0:30:42.400 --> 0:30:45.720
<v Speaker 3>Simon Garffer, what a magnificent album that is Patrick's is

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:49.000
<v Speaker 3>nineteen ninety nine. In nineteen eighty nine, in fact, be

0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:51.760
<v Speaker 3>Happy was his first album. Nearly confused that with a

0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:53.880
<v Speaker 3>bit of Prince and here's a great album from Paul

0:30:54.400 --> 0:30:58.480
<v Speaker 3>Harry's Reason Spy Versus Spy, great album, great T shirt too.

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:01.560
<v Speaker 11>You want to hear a bit of trivia, go on,

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:06.680
<v Speaker 11>because back in my music jock days, where was I to.

0:31:06.760 --> 0:31:09.720
<v Speaker 10>Well f and young And you remember Phil.

0:31:09.760 --> 0:31:12.000
<v Speaker 11>Back in the day, the record companies would send you

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 11>samples and you get to hear the singles before they

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:19.280
<v Speaker 11>were hits. And Circus Animals Col Chisel had come out

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:23.520
<v Speaker 11>and the single was Forever Now and I was always.

0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:26.280
<v Speaker 10>A huge B side sampler, So I flip it over.

0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:28.920
<v Speaker 10>Do you know what the B side to forever an

0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:29.280
<v Speaker 10>Now was?

0:31:30.120 --> 0:31:31.600
<v Speaker 3>Okay, flame Trees?

0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 10>It was bow River.

0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:37.800
<v Speaker 11>I heard bow River and I thought that's better than

0:31:37.800 --> 0:31:39.959
<v Speaker 11>the A side, and so I kept playing bow River.

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 11>I got into trouble from the program director, and then

0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 11>every time I go into a pub where they had

0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:48.720
<v Speaker 11>a jukebox, I'd always choose side B. And Ian Moss

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:51.360
<v Speaker 11>once said to me, Boner, you made bow rivery hit.

0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:52.960
<v Speaker 3>Where's your money for this.

0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 10>I'm claiming it. I'm claiming it.

0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:56.880
<v Speaker 3>Let's get to the phone films. On the phone you're

0:31:56.880 --> 0:31:59.280
<v Speaker 3>on with Lyck Booner. Phil, Let's talk about your first

0:31:59.320 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 3>record mate.

0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my first record I bought was called Hits of

0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:04.600
<v Speaker 2>the Blitz by Zira Lynn.

0:32:05.920 --> 0:32:08.480
<v Speaker 10>Oh God bless we'll meet again.

0:32:08.680 --> 0:32:13.320
<v Speaker 2>Hey, well made again and padam and your and all

0:32:13.400 --> 0:32:16.240
<v Speaker 2>that sort of. Yes for the army background.

0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:18.160
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, great album.

0:32:18.200 --> 0:32:20.320
<v Speaker 10>I think I remember going in and buying it.

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:23.640
<v Speaker 11>And what about the smell of the vinyl and the

0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:26.440
<v Speaker 11>orange cloth that you used to buy it. It's a

0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:29.720
<v Speaker 11>very gently wipe it in a circular motion. Did you

0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:31.640
<v Speaker 11>have on your on your record player? Did you have

0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:32.360
<v Speaker 11>a dust bug?

0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:35.560
<v Speaker 3>Did you have a dust bug later on?

0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:38.520
<v Speaker 2>I did, but in the early times no, which was

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:41.280
<v Speaker 2>very you know, and it took me nearly a whole

0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:42.480
<v Speaker 2>week's pay to buy it.

0:32:44.680 --> 0:32:47.760
<v Speaker 10>Yes, yeah, and you had a relationship with that album.

0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:49.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh I've still got it.

0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:52.120
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, good God bless what you do.

0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:56.160
<v Speaker 2>All my albums all from the early sixties and fifties.

0:32:56.640 --> 0:32:58.680
<v Speaker 2>I think the first one I must have got I

0:32:58.760 --> 0:33:00.960
<v Speaker 2>think The Old Peace came to a Australia in about

0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:01.800
<v Speaker 2>fifty four.

0:33:03.360 --> 0:33:04.880
<v Speaker 7>In the and do you know what?

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:07.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's interesting. I think the closest that you and

0:33:07.880 --> 0:33:10.000
<v Speaker 3>I will get to via Lynn would be a reference

0:33:10.040 --> 0:33:12.480
<v Speaker 3>to Pink Floyd from the Wall album. So let's get

0:33:12.480 --> 0:33:15.360
<v Speaker 3>to Bernardi's on the phone on North Rocks. Are I Bernie?

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:17.520
<v Speaker 3>You're on with Luke Boner? What was your first record?

0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:23.880
<v Speaker 13>My first record that I've got is Crescendo by patam

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:31.480
<v Speaker 13>or tATu mt at the Piano and it was originally

0:33:31.680 --> 0:33:35.240
<v Speaker 13>passed when on as a special at the shop for

0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:42.000
<v Speaker 13>seven seven dollars ninety five and they've reduced that. I've

0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 13>got the actual price at my receias hust and Pay,

0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:53.240
<v Speaker 13>and it was five dollars. And I've got some ball here.

0:33:56.440 --> 0:33:58.520
<v Speaker 3>You're going to have Luke Boner and coming over and

0:33:58.640 --> 0:33:59.760
<v Speaker 3>having a record party.

0:34:00.760 --> 0:34:03.280
<v Speaker 11>I think I think she's sitting on a fortune. I

0:34:03.360 --> 0:34:06.080
<v Speaker 11>think there's a lot of money there. People are paying

0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 11>big money for albums in good condition, especially if the

0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:09.760
<v Speaker 11>cover's in good Nick.

0:34:09.800 --> 0:34:12.200
<v Speaker 3>That's it exactly right. Let's get to Margaret, who's on

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:15.239
<v Speaker 3>the phone too, Margaret that's talked to Luke Boner about

0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:16.359
<v Speaker 3>your Margaret.

0:34:17.000 --> 0:34:19.759
<v Speaker 14>Good Night link. I love your show. Always get up

0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:22.640
<v Speaker 14>early and listen to it. I can't remember the names

0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:24.800
<v Speaker 14>of the album, but I bought two records at the

0:34:24.840 --> 0:34:27.560
<v Speaker 14>same time when I think I was thirteen fourteen, and

0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:30.440
<v Speaker 14>I thought one of the Beatles forty five, and I

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:35.840
<v Speaker 14>also bought Shirley Bessie. I love two very different types

0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:36.000
<v Speaker 14>of me.

0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:38.160
<v Speaker 7>You think this is Margaret?

0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:41.239
<v Speaker 11>Can I ask you what record store did you buy from?

0:34:41.320 --> 0:34:43.320
<v Speaker 11>Do you remember did you Was it in the suburbs

0:34:43.400 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 11>or did you.

0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:44.399
<v Speaker 10>Go into the city.

0:34:44.719 --> 0:34:46.440
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, no, we used to go into Eatles.

0:34:46.640 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 15>Was one of them Beatles?

0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:49.120
<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:54.719
<v Speaker 14>It's gone now there No, I don't think so.

0:34:54.840 --> 0:34:55.040
<v Speaker 5>I know.

0:34:55.280 --> 0:34:57.160
<v Speaker 14>I do know of the guy who used to own it.

0:34:57.440 --> 0:34:58.839
<v Speaker 14>He saw it many many years ago.

0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:00.440
<v Speaker 10>There you go.

0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:03.680
<v Speaker 14>I'm trying to think of the guy's name. We used

0:35:03.680 --> 0:35:06.520
<v Speaker 14>to as teenagers go over to one of the girls

0:35:06.600 --> 0:35:09.040
<v Speaker 14>places and play these records and dance around and sing

0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:11.640
<v Speaker 14>his names just escape me. But we used to love

0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:14.360
<v Speaker 14>playing and you'll know who I'm talking about, Summer Holiday

0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:18.040
<v Speaker 14>and all those old hips, cliff Ridgid Cliff Richard. Yeah,

0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:20.160
<v Speaker 14>we used to love those songs and we used to

0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:22.440
<v Speaker 14>go around and have sessions of singing all the songs

0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:25.000
<v Speaker 14>and dancing around. And we had one of the portable

0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:29.319
<v Speaker 14>little record players. You remember those little Bokay.

0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:35.360
<v Speaker 11>Hey, do you remember the k Tell compilation albums that

0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 11>used to come out It's super Bad and you had

0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 11>a k Tell record selector that was on side remember

0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:43.080
<v Speaker 11>that film.

0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:46.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's right, some plastic thing that essentially.

0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:48.200
<v Speaker 10>And you read with all your albums in it.

0:35:48.440 --> 0:35:50.719
<v Speaker 3>Because I always used to slide out of the side of.

0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:54.680
<v Speaker 10>It and it never worked. It was like the game

0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:55.880
<v Speaker 10>mouse trap. It never worked.

0:35:56.840 --> 0:35:57.000
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

0:35:57.040 --> 0:35:59.040
<v Speaker 14>I've got many many CDs now with a lot of

0:35:59.080 --> 0:36:02.920
<v Speaker 14>those old complements, pations and the you know, the records

0:36:03.120 --> 0:36:07.960
<v Speaker 14>for the now CDs, lots of the old ones, donating

0:36:08.040 --> 0:36:08.879
<v Speaker 14>them to two GB.

0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:10.440
<v Speaker 3>Well do bring them over here.

0:36:11.400 --> 0:36:14.600
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, I will do all right, Thank you very much,

0:36:14.640 --> 0:36:16.160
<v Speaker 14>And you have a lunchy day. And I do like

0:36:16.280 --> 0:36:18.000
<v Speaker 14>to listen to you in the morning.

0:36:18.040 --> 0:36:18.880
<v Speaker 7>I really like you.

0:36:19.560 --> 0:36:21.200
<v Speaker 14>You know that you're upfront.

0:36:22.480 --> 0:36:24.600
<v Speaker 3>Nice to talk to you, Margaret. There you go. Margaret

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:26.359
<v Speaker 3>will also be able to go and have a listen

0:36:26.440 --> 0:36:29.600
<v Speaker 3>to your podcast too. Another couple of texts that are

0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:31.960
<v Speaker 3>coming through here. This is from Warren. First record was

0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:34.640
<v Speaker 3>Rock and Roy Music nineteen seventy six and he bought

0:36:34.640 --> 0:36:38.480
<v Speaker 3>it a b Croft Records store. That was a double album. Yeah,

0:36:38.560 --> 0:36:41.080
<v Speaker 3>the old double albums. That was something else, wasn't Oh

0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:41.600
<v Speaker 3>now a.

0:36:41.680 --> 0:36:47.280
<v Speaker 11>Double album that was something special. Yellow Brick Road, famous

0:36:47.360 --> 0:36:51.200
<v Speaker 11>double album Frampton Comes Alive, Peter Frampton, remember that nineteen

0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:51.839
<v Speaker 11>seventy six.

0:36:52.040 --> 0:36:53.719
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, yeah, do you feel like we do?

0:36:53.880 --> 0:36:57.800
<v Speaker 11>That was a famous double album and the song remains

0:36:57.840 --> 0:37:01.600
<v Speaker 11>the same, the led Zepp Madison Square Recordings double album. So,

0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:04.440
<v Speaker 11>I mean that was a real investment, wasn't it. And

0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:07.439
<v Speaker 11>you were definitely committed to the artist if you bought

0:37:07.480 --> 0:37:08.160
<v Speaker 11>a double album.

0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:10.320
<v Speaker 3>Well that said, and of course, you know back in

0:37:10.440 --> 0:37:12.399
<v Speaker 3>those days, you know, we didn't have a lot of money,

0:37:12.760 --> 0:37:14.600
<v Speaker 3>all of us, you know, I'm you, I'm talking about

0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:16.680
<v Speaker 3>our listeners as well, So it was a real treat

0:37:16.760 --> 0:37:18.560
<v Speaker 3>to go out and buy a record. So you'd have

0:37:18.640 --> 0:37:21.120
<v Speaker 3>to get the plastic cover that it went into, you know.

0:37:21.239 --> 0:37:25.080
<v Speaker 11>And you know, and the other thing about buying albums

0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:29.480
<v Speaker 11>was it you got the lyrics you could read along

0:37:29.560 --> 0:37:31.000
<v Speaker 11>with the words for the first time.

0:37:31.040 --> 0:37:32.240
<v Speaker 10>You didn't get that on a single.

0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:34.839
<v Speaker 11>You bought the album and chances are it had all

0:37:34.920 --> 0:37:37.560
<v Speaker 11>the lyrics there as well. I remember reading along to

0:37:37.680 --> 0:37:41.320
<v Speaker 11>all the words to Sergeant Peppers and I thought it

0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:42.680
<v Speaker 11>was absolutely fantastic.

0:37:42.719 --> 0:37:43.960
<v Speaker 10>You didn't have to guess the words.

0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:47.239
<v Speaker 3>I should have mentioned before that when we were talking

0:37:47.280 --> 0:37:49.440
<v Speaker 3>about Cliff Richard that he's touring too. He's going to

0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:51.439
<v Speaker 3>be touring Australia, I think later on this year.

0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:54.960
<v Speaker 11>I think he's the only artist in the world that's

0:37:55.040 --> 0:37:59.680
<v Speaker 11>had number one or top ten hits in the fifties, sixties, seventies.

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:04.320
<v Speaker 11>He's nineties, two thousands. It's some incredible record.

0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:06.239
<v Speaker 10>Look at that for me. Yeah, I think he's out.

0:38:06.480 --> 0:38:08.319
<v Speaker 10>I think he's out on his own. Cliff Ridge, it's

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:08.840
<v Speaker 10>still touring.

0:38:08.880 --> 0:38:12.239
<v Speaker 3>Eh, that's exactly right. Hey, what's coming up on your podcast? Well,

0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:13.560
<v Speaker 3>I've got you here because I know you want to

0:38:13.600 --> 0:38:14.239
<v Speaker 3>give that a plug.

0:38:14.800 --> 0:38:15.440
<v Speaker 10>Oh, we'll look at it.

0:38:15.440 --> 0:38:17.160
<v Speaker 11>There's always a bit of everything that once again, we'll

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:20.480
<v Speaker 11>talk about finance with Shane and how this drama between

0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:23.839
<v Speaker 11>Iran and Israel is going to affect world markets. We'll

0:38:23.880 --> 0:38:25.680
<v Speaker 11>have a bit of fun with Adam McDonald, the King

0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:30.640
<v Speaker 11>of Memorabilia, and you never know what's coming up next.

0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:32.479
<v Speaker 10>It's called Bona five with Luke Boner.

0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:35.440
<v Speaker 3>It's available now, give it the plug. Nice a torture

0:38:35.480 --> 0:38:37.880
<v Speaker 3>with the Boner Report. Mate, thank you have a terrific weekend.

0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:39.719
<v Speaker 3>I love to the new family and we'll talk to

0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 3>you next.

0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:42.680
<v Speaker 10>Week, Buddy, I can't wait, mate of mister mate cheers

0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:43.239
<v Speaker 10>take care.

0:38:43.520 --> 0:38:45.760
<v Speaker 3>Five minutes to five. So there's our mate, Luke Boner.

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:47.880
<v Speaker 3>He will be back next week and of course do

0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:50.799
<v Speaker 3>toget speaking about old mates. Ben Fordham here after five

0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:54.160
<v Speaker 3>point thirty this morning and Mike Levy fresh off the

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:56.480
<v Speaker 3>back of the Big Core with the Continuous Call team too.

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<v Speaker 3>Imagine he's going to do the show from Perth today

0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:01.200
<v Speaker 3>so he would be able to get out I'm not

0:39:01.280 --> 0:39:02.719
<v Speaker 3>thinking no. Would he be able to get out of

0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:07.440
<v Speaker 3>bed earlier than usual? Probably? Not knowing Luke, he's probably

0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:10.239
<v Speaker 3>just done another all nighter. And in Brisbane four BC

0:39:10.440 --> 0:39:12.799
<v Speaker 3>Peter Vegan coming up as well this morning at five

0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:17.640
<v Speaker 3>point thirty. Very chilly this morning in Sydney six degrees

0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:20.520
<v Speaker 3>but feels like three not too bad. In Brisbane it's

0:39:20.520 --> 0:39:23.759
<v Speaker 3>about eleven but it feels like nine degrees. I wanted

0:39:23.840 --> 0:39:26.680
<v Speaker 3>to have a chat with Dr Leonardo Guida, he's a

0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:29.560
<v Speaker 3>shark scientist, because you know, it's fifty years this year

0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:32.960
<v Speaker 3>since Jaws the movie was released. One of the greatest

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:36.200
<v Speaker 3>scary movies. I wonder if any other film has had

0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:39.560
<v Speaker 3>such a cultural impact as Jaws has, because when that

0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:42.680
<v Speaker 3>came out, it really literally did scare us from going

0:39:42.760 --> 0:39:44.200
<v Speaker 3>into the water, didn't it. I Mean, I don't know

0:39:44.200 --> 0:39:46.000
<v Speaker 3>if you did that, but I remember, you know, as

0:39:46.040 --> 0:39:48.640
<v Speaker 3>a kid, I saw that film and even now you're

0:39:48.680 --> 0:39:51.680
<v Speaker 3>still thinking about sharks that you didn't like get on

0:39:51.800 --> 0:39:54.279
<v Speaker 3>back in the day. Maybe the only other one was Poltergeist,

0:39:54.320 --> 0:39:57.360
<v Speaker 3>where we all thought that hopefully our house wouldn't get haunted.

0:39:57.400 --> 0:39:59.120
<v Speaker 3>But anyway, maybe I'll have a chat with him tomorrow.

0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:03.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna have a discussion with doctor Tanvia Ahmed later

0:40:03.160 --> 0:40:06.440
<v Speaker 3>on about psychological com claims and see whether or not

0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:07.360
<v Speaker 3>a lot of those are verified.

0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:07.879
<v Speaker 10>That's on the way.

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<v Speaker 12>This is.

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<v Speaker 1>This on two GB, four BC and network stations. This

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:30.480
<v Speaker 1>is wake up Us, Rodya with Phill O'Neill.

0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:33.319
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, here we are.

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<v Speaker 3>June nineteenth, Thursday morning. Cold feels like three degrees possibly

0:40:40.040 --> 0:40:44.040
<v Speaker 3>even colder in Sydney, seven minutes past five a head

0:40:44.120 --> 0:40:47.520
<v Speaker 3>of our good friend. Then for them to GB Sydney.

0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:49.799
<v Speaker 3>Let's want to get five thirty. Peter Vegan on four

0:40:49.880 --> 0:40:53.160
<v Speaker 3>BC in Brisbane and Mark Leevy coming up up the

0:40:53.239 --> 0:40:55.480
<v Speaker 3>nine on two GB. Here's a bit of your opnight news.

0:40:55.600 --> 0:40:59.759
<v Speaker 3>Israel's command of Iranian airspace leaves few obstacles in the

0:40:59.800 --> 0:41:03.719
<v Speaker 3>world of expanding bombardment, although it will struggle to deal

0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:07.840
<v Speaker 3>a knockout blow to deeply buried nuclear sites without the

0:41:08.160 --> 0:41:11.719
<v Speaker 3>US joining the attack. Experts say this is maybe where

0:41:11.760 --> 0:41:14.120
<v Speaker 3>the bunker busters come in. We'll wait and see what's

0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:17.040
<v Speaker 3>going to happen with that. At least sixty nine Palestinians

0:41:17.080 --> 0:41:20.560
<v Speaker 3>have been killed by Israeli fire across Gaza, including twenty

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:23.839
<v Speaker 3>nine people who are waiting for a trucks. Palestinian health

0:41:23.920 --> 0:41:27.120
<v Speaker 3>officials have said the latest carnage has hit people desperate

0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:31.719
<v Speaker 3>to secure food for their hungry families. Also, the Iranian

0:41:31.800 --> 0:41:36.640
<v Speaker 3>Supreme Leader Ayatola al Kamani has rejected Donald Trump's demand

0:41:36.719 --> 0:41:40.080
<v Speaker 3>for unconditional surrender. Overnight, and the US president said his

0:41:40.280 --> 0:41:43.640
<v Speaker 3>patients had run out, although he gave no clue as

0:41:43.719 --> 0:41:47.160
<v Speaker 3>to what his next step would be. The Ukrainian President

0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:51.560
<v Speaker 3>Vladimir Zelenski left the Group of Seventh summit overnight. The

0:41:51.640 --> 0:41:55.080
<v Speaker 3>new aid from Canadian host Canada is going to help

0:41:55.120 --> 0:41:59.040
<v Speaker 3>them with their war against Russia, but they said, diplomacy

0:41:59.160 --> 0:42:01.719
<v Speaker 3>is in crisis, having missed the chance to press up

0:42:01.840 --> 0:42:04.520
<v Speaker 3>with Donald Trump and ask him for some more weapons.

0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:07.960
<v Speaker 3>That's the situation that Vladimir Zelenski is in. But of

0:42:08.040 --> 0:42:10.360
<v Speaker 3>course he wasn't the only one who missed out, So

0:42:10.520 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 3>too did the Indian Prime minister, and so did our

0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:14.960
<v Speaker 3>Prime minister as well.

0:42:14.960 --> 0:42:15.640
<v Speaker 10>And one more for you.

0:42:15.719 --> 0:42:19.680
<v Speaker 3>Britain called overnight for reform of the European Convention on

0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:24.640
<v Speaker 3>Human Rights amid growing domestic criticism that it allows a

0:42:24.800 --> 0:42:28.440
<v Speaker 3>foreign base court to meddle in sensitive areas of policy

0:42:28.719 --> 0:42:32.400
<v Speaker 3>such as immigration and deportation rulings. So that's a bit

0:42:32.440 --> 0:42:34.360
<v Speaker 3>of an update on what you've got going on with

0:42:34.440 --> 0:42:37.320
<v Speaker 3>the news this Thursday morning. As I said, it's pretty

0:42:37.760 --> 0:42:40.239
<v Speaker 3>damn cold out there, so I'm going to have a

0:42:40.280 --> 0:42:42.640
<v Speaker 3>chat in just a moment to doctor tan Via Ahmed,

0:42:42.960 --> 0:42:47.520
<v Speaker 3>the psychiatrist and also social commentator and also another commentator

0:42:47.600 --> 0:42:50.040
<v Speaker 3>on two GB who you'll be able to hear. He

0:42:50.160 --> 0:42:54.160
<v Speaker 3>wants to talk about the psychological compensation claims being about

0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:56.840
<v Speaker 3>justice not health, so we'll get to the bottom of

0:42:56.920 --> 0:43:01.120
<v Speaker 3>that after this. It's ten past five, thirteen minutes past

0:43:01.239 --> 0:43:04.040
<v Speaker 3>five I have on the phone this morning a two

0:43:04.120 --> 0:43:08.760
<v Speaker 3>GB commentator, doctor Tanvia Ahmed. Let's talk about the psychological

0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:13.760
<v Speaker 3>compensation claims about being about justice and not about health.

0:43:14.200 --> 0:43:15.960
<v Speaker 3>That's the story that we want to wear lambrad on

0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:17.480
<v Speaker 3>and can you tell us more details about that.

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<v Speaker 9>Look right across the country and probably across the western world,

0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:25.600
<v Speaker 9>probably the last decade or two, these sort of psychological

0:43:25.719 --> 0:43:29.560
<v Speaker 9>claims in the workplace have gone up a great deal,

0:43:30.280 --> 0:43:33.840
<v Speaker 9>most specifically in New South Wales. They've quad rupled in

0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:37.400
<v Speaker 9>the last five years and that's really where it rates to.

0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:40.600
<v Speaker 9>So there's currently a bill in New Southwest Parliament essentially

0:43:40.800 --> 0:43:43.880
<v Speaker 9>trying to stick a pin in this, try and really

0:43:43.960 --> 0:43:48.560
<v Speaker 9>cut down on the huge growth which is effectively bankrupting

0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:51.760
<v Speaker 9>the state to some extent, Like they're kind of billions

0:43:51.840 --> 0:43:55.879
<v Speaker 9>of dollars in the in the red. But what I'm

0:43:55.920 --> 0:43:58.200
<v Speaker 9>getting at it's something I have to assess. I've never

0:43:58.280 --> 0:44:01.319
<v Speaker 9>to assess these claims. And by the claims, there's usually

0:44:01.360 --> 0:44:02.040
<v Speaker 9>someone saying I.

0:44:02.080 --> 0:44:04.919
<v Speaker 7>Felt bullied, or i felt mistreated, or I've been.

0:44:04.920 --> 0:44:08.640
<v Speaker 9>Harassed or I've got looked over in a promotion for

0:44:09.080 --> 0:44:10.040
<v Speaker 9>personal reasons.

0:44:10.280 --> 0:44:11.520
<v Speaker 7>So it's all these sort of things.

0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:14.560
<v Speaker 9>And now I'm not saying these things aren't happening, but

0:44:15.640 --> 0:44:17.879
<v Speaker 9>there's a few trends that are driving this. So one

0:44:18.080 --> 0:44:21.000
<v Speaker 9>mental health awareness, so yes, people are much more conscious

0:44:21.120 --> 0:44:26.319
<v Speaker 9>of mental health problems. There's also our relationship with work people.

0:44:27.239 --> 0:44:30.080
<v Speaker 9>We have more service oriented work, so it's work where

0:44:30.160 --> 0:44:33.000
<v Speaker 9>we're sitting in on front of a computer, we're interacting

0:44:33.040 --> 0:44:38.000
<v Speaker 9>with teams. The psychosocial side of work, you could argue,

0:44:38.120 --> 0:44:38.920
<v Speaker 9>is more pronounced.

0:44:38.960 --> 0:44:41.960
<v Speaker 7>It's more about kind of online interactions.

0:44:42.200 --> 0:44:44.439
<v Speaker 9>It's more it's how you get on with the team,

0:44:44.520 --> 0:44:51.520
<v Speaker 9>a lot more subjective stuff. So that's another dynamic. And

0:44:51.760 --> 0:44:56.360
<v Speaker 9>in line with that, you've had this huge growth with

0:44:56.480 --> 0:45:00.000
<v Speaker 9>these types of claims you've had. You can also argue

0:45:00.480 --> 0:45:03.920
<v Speaker 9>there's been a change in our relationship with adversity. So

0:45:04.120 --> 0:45:07.560
<v Speaker 9>even the way we view adversity, it's probably more people thinking, Okay,

0:45:08.280 --> 0:45:12.440
<v Speaker 9>the problem, somebody's done this to me. So people have

0:45:12.560 --> 0:45:14.600
<v Speaker 9>some sort of issue work and they're like, somebody's done

0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:17.680
<v Speaker 9>this to me. I'm just building up these broader cultural

0:45:17.719 --> 0:45:21.880
<v Speaker 9>trends because I think they feed into these workplace claims. Now,

0:45:22.000 --> 0:45:24.759
<v Speaker 9>when we assess the reality with these claims, even though

0:45:24.760 --> 0:45:28.480
<v Speaker 9>they're mental health claims, they don't respond to treatment like

0:45:28.640 --> 0:45:31.239
<v Speaker 9>mental health claims. So you might have to get a

0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:34.120
<v Speaker 9>diagnosis out of the police of post traumatic stress disorder,

0:45:34.760 --> 0:45:39.640
<v Speaker 9>but the usual portion of people with that diagnosis, you know,

0:45:39.719 --> 0:45:42.960
<v Speaker 9>there might be half the people might respond to treatment. However,

0:45:43.080 --> 0:45:45.680
<v Speaker 9>when you have these sort of claims coming out of

0:45:45.760 --> 0:45:50.719
<v Speaker 9>the workplace, suddenly the claims and the treatment responses are less.

0:45:52.040 --> 0:45:54.120
<v Speaker 7>They don't respond quite as well. Now it's a.

0:45:54.160 --> 0:45:57.279
<v Speaker 9>Variety of reasons, but what I'm arguing here is what's

0:45:57.360 --> 0:46:00.440
<v Speaker 9>really going on here is often people feel right did

0:46:00.560 --> 0:46:03.320
<v Speaker 9>work in some ways, you know, they feel mistreated in

0:46:03.440 --> 0:46:07.400
<v Speaker 9>some form, and then it really becomes the dynamic is

0:46:07.480 --> 0:46:10.839
<v Speaker 9>one about justice, resentment.

0:46:11.000 --> 0:46:12.120
<v Speaker 7>Even honor and shame.

0:46:12.239 --> 0:46:14.600
<v Speaker 9>I feel you don't really think talk about honor shame

0:46:14.800 --> 0:46:16.080
<v Speaker 9>in Western societies much.

0:46:16.120 --> 0:46:17.360
<v Speaker 7>You know, it feels really ancient.

0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:20.960
<v Speaker 9>You know, it's kind of warrior or kind of romans

0:46:21.200 --> 0:46:23.240
<v Speaker 9>or tribes and this sort of stuff.

0:46:23.480 --> 0:46:25.040
<v Speaker 7>But in some ways, that's sort of what's going on.

0:46:25.200 --> 0:46:29.400
<v Speaker 9>People feel they've been dishonored in a way, and they

0:46:29.600 --> 0:46:30.560
<v Speaker 9>just get stuck.

0:46:30.840 --> 0:46:33.279
<v Speaker 7>They're kind of in exile. They go into a self

0:46:33.320 --> 0:46:35.160
<v Speaker 7>imposed exile, and.

0:46:35.320 --> 0:46:37.640
<v Speaker 9>Then it almost doesn't matter you're throwing them treatments, you're

0:46:37.640 --> 0:46:39.759
<v Speaker 9>doing counseling, all this kind of stuff. But un till

0:46:39.800 --> 0:46:43.480
<v Speaker 9>they feel they get some sort of resolution, and again

0:46:43.560 --> 0:46:46.840
<v Speaker 9>that's a kind of a justice type thing, they just

0:46:46.960 --> 0:46:49.560
<v Speaker 9>don't get better. So really what I'm arguing here, Phil

0:46:49.719 --> 0:46:52.680
<v Speaker 9>is we need to think about these claims differently.

0:46:52.800 --> 0:46:55.040
<v Speaker 7>So a lot of the debate that's going in early

0:46:55.120 --> 0:46:56.040
<v Speaker 7>access to treatment.

0:46:56.840 --> 0:46:58.359
<v Speaker 13>Yes they do to some extent.

0:46:58.440 --> 0:47:00.759
<v Speaker 7>If they do get in to see a psycho, it

0:47:00.840 --> 0:47:02.759
<v Speaker 7>can help them reappraise.

0:47:02.280 --> 0:47:05.279
<v Speaker 9>What's going on for them, Like, whatever issue happened to work,

0:47:05.600 --> 0:47:05.959
<v Speaker 9>what does.

0:47:05.920 --> 0:47:06.600
<v Speaker 7>It mean to them?

0:47:06.880 --> 0:47:08.960
<v Speaker 9>Can they readjust can they think of it it differently?

0:47:09.040 --> 0:47:11.759
<v Speaker 9>So that is useful, But what you really got to

0:47:11.800 --> 0:47:16.680
<v Speaker 9>work on is can we find interesting ways of mediating

0:47:16.800 --> 0:47:21.279
<v Speaker 9>workplace disputes rather than it go down this real combative route.

0:47:21.320 --> 0:47:23.719
<v Speaker 9>What tends to happen is bag they go to some

0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:26.879
<v Speaker 9>industrial relations commission and it becomes a combat straight away.

0:47:26.920 --> 0:47:29.719
<v Speaker 9>So initially somebody might come out going, oh, I'm a

0:47:29.800 --> 0:47:33.239
<v Speaker 9>bit pissed off that they didn't do X y Z

0:47:33.520 --> 0:47:35.759
<v Speaker 9>for me, and they'll go on leave, go on a

0:47:35.800 --> 0:47:38.600
<v Speaker 9>workers comp claim, and then bang, before you know it,

0:47:38.840 --> 0:47:41.560
<v Speaker 9>it's turned into a kind of all out legal combat.

0:47:41.680 --> 0:47:43.800
<v Speaker 9>Like both sides have got lawyers, it's gone to some

0:47:43.920 --> 0:47:46.279
<v Speaker 9>sort of commission. It's a fair work claim, and what

0:47:46.440 --> 0:47:51.040
<v Speaker 9>began is something relatively mild turns into kind of, you know,

0:47:51.239 --> 0:47:53.320
<v Speaker 9>like some David Goliath sort of battle.

0:47:53.480 --> 0:47:55.400
<v Speaker 3>I've got two schools of thoughts on this. One is

0:47:55.640 --> 0:47:58.280
<v Speaker 3>that having been in a situation where I've been bullied

0:47:58.280 --> 0:48:01.040
<v Speaker 3>at work, and I know the term p TD gets

0:48:01.120 --> 0:48:04.200
<v Speaker 3>bandied around a lot. We've talked about HR on this show,

0:48:04.280 --> 0:48:07.560
<v Speaker 3>and how HR is there to essentially protect the employer.

0:48:07.840 --> 0:48:10.279
<v Speaker 3>There should be some recourse if you've been bullied and

0:48:10.360 --> 0:48:13.160
<v Speaker 3>you've actually walked away and you know that you have

0:48:13.360 --> 0:48:15.279
<v Speaker 3>some form of issue as a result of it. But

0:48:15.360 --> 0:48:18.200
<v Speaker 3>there are also people who are the architects in the

0:48:18.280 --> 0:48:22.400
<v Speaker 3>workplace of their own circumstances, who are trying to claim

0:48:22.760 --> 0:48:24.920
<v Speaker 3>that they're the victim. I guess the thing is to

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<v Speaker 3>differentiate between what's actually true and what is their version

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<v Speaker 3>of the truth.

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<v Speaker 9>Now that's an awfully hard thing to do because it's

0:48:32.400 --> 0:48:35.600
<v Speaker 9>often one person's perception versus another, and they try and

0:48:36.000 --> 0:48:38.440
<v Speaker 9>we try and get some sort of objective reality, which

0:48:38.480 --> 0:48:43.360
<v Speaker 9>isn't always which isn't always easy, And there is My

0:48:43.520 --> 0:48:46.279
<v Speaker 9>profession does probably add to it. Because we've got all

0:48:46.320 --> 0:48:50.080
<v Speaker 9>these diagnoses, and sometimes they're fairly loose criteria, so people

0:48:50.160 --> 0:48:54.000
<v Speaker 9>can latch onto a diagnosis. You mentioned PTSD. I think

0:48:54.080 --> 0:48:58.680
<v Speaker 9>increasingly the growth of PTSD is linked to lacking language

0:48:58.760 --> 0:49:01.600
<v Speaker 9>for adversity and can be useful sometimes it can help

0:49:01.640 --> 0:49:04.359
<v Speaker 9>them make sense of it seek treatment. But obviously people

0:49:04.400 --> 0:49:05.759
<v Speaker 9>have to have recourse. Like you know, all sorts of

0:49:05.800 --> 0:49:08.880
<v Speaker 9>things go wrong in work and nobody's arguing the worker

0:49:08.960 --> 0:49:13.480
<v Speaker 9>shouldn't have rights, but something's going wrong in these disputes

0:49:14.080 --> 0:49:17.680
<v Speaker 9>that they're just getting completely stuck and framing them purely

0:49:18.480 --> 0:49:21.560
<v Speaker 9>as a health sort of dispute. I think just misses

0:49:21.600 --> 0:49:24.759
<v Speaker 9>a trick. It just doesn't quite get the dynamic in

0:49:24.880 --> 0:49:25.680
<v Speaker 9>these disputes.

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<v Speaker 3>But I also think sometimes you just want to be heard,

0:49:29.400 --> 0:49:32.759
<v Speaker 3>don't necessarily want some kind of compensation. You know, most

0:49:32.760 --> 0:49:36.000
<v Speaker 3>people just want someone to hear their grievances.

0:49:36.239 --> 0:49:38.480
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you're spot on fire. I think that people need

0:49:38.520 --> 0:49:39.400
<v Speaker 7>to feel acknowledged.

0:49:39.520 --> 0:49:43.239
<v Speaker 9>So again trying to think of processes where and again

0:49:43.280 --> 0:49:45.640
<v Speaker 9>the illegal thing can make it hard where they're so

0:49:46.120 --> 0:49:52.120
<v Speaker 9>fearful of admitting some sort of liability that modern organizations

0:49:52.920 --> 0:49:57.160
<v Speaker 9>often can't even allow space where someone gets acknowledged where

0:49:57.200 --> 0:50:01.680
<v Speaker 9>they're feeling of being mistreated in some way or just

0:50:01.800 --> 0:50:06.040
<v Speaker 9>being disrespected. Often it's a feeling of disrespect And yeah,

0:50:06.760 --> 0:50:08.799
<v Speaker 9>what you said is exactly right. Is there some way

0:50:09.400 --> 0:50:12.640
<v Speaker 9>we can acknowledge that they felt wronged? We need some

0:50:12.760 --> 0:50:14.880
<v Speaker 9>sort of ritual that allows them to come back to

0:50:15.000 --> 0:50:18.399
<v Speaker 9>work save face. But I don't think we're doing that well.

0:50:18.680 --> 0:50:21.960
<v Speaker 9>That things are turning into real big legal battles.

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<v Speaker 3>I get the impression that HI will panic if somebody

0:50:24.520 --> 0:50:27.279
<v Speaker 3>goes to them with a complaint about you know, it's

0:50:27.320 --> 0:50:30.400
<v Speaker 3>usually a boss, but also a fellow employee. First thing

0:50:30.400 --> 0:50:32.120
<v Speaker 3>they're going to do is think, well, okay, where's this

0:50:32.239 --> 0:50:34.799
<v Speaker 3>going to leave us? And I think that mentality has

0:50:34.880 --> 0:50:36.560
<v Speaker 3>got to go out of the equation that you're going

0:50:36.600 --> 0:50:38.759
<v Speaker 3>to have to have someone whose job is not just

0:50:38.920 --> 0:50:43.040
<v Speaker 3>to protect the company, but to protect the mental health

0:50:43.120 --> 0:50:43.720
<v Speaker 3>of the company.

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<v Speaker 6>That's true.

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<v Speaker 9>I think there's a much more awareness of that psychosocial

0:50:46.960 --> 0:50:47.520
<v Speaker 9>risk bield.

0:50:47.560 --> 0:50:49.960
<v Speaker 7>So you're right, and I think we can handle it better.

0:50:50.080 --> 0:50:53.960
<v Speaker 9>But in the most fundamental thing now, arguably the government's

0:50:54.000 --> 0:50:56.120
<v Speaker 9>going too far in New South Wales.

0:50:55.840 --> 0:50:58.960
<v Speaker 7>Whether they're kind of almost trying to shut this out altogether.

0:50:58.920 --> 0:51:00.520
<v Speaker 9>Which will hurt a lot of peop people who are

0:51:00.719 --> 0:51:04.000
<v Speaker 9>genuinely suffering, but it does just raise this issue that

0:51:04.080 --> 0:51:05.440
<v Speaker 9>you and I are talking about. Well, I think this

0:51:05.520 --> 0:51:08.080
<v Speaker 9>can be handled better, And much of it is exactly

0:51:08.160 --> 0:51:11.759
<v Speaker 9>what you said, that there's a legal pathway that is

0:51:11.920 --> 0:51:16.080
<v Speaker 9>not allowing it's not giving space for just ordinary acknowledgment,

0:51:17.120 --> 0:51:19.840
<v Speaker 9>you know, just kind of letting someone feel heard, just

0:51:19.960 --> 0:51:23.759
<v Speaker 9>acknowledging their distress of feeling wronged, and that could potentially

0:51:23.880 --> 0:51:26.560
<v Speaker 9>save gazillions of dolls absolutely.

0:51:26.200 --> 0:51:28.000
<v Speaker 7>And improve all sorts of suffering.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm speaking as a layman here. I don't think that

0:51:30.040 --> 0:51:33.600
<v Speaker 3>you're legally obligated to say to the employee, Okay, you

0:51:33.719 --> 0:51:37.400
<v Speaker 3>were wronged. That's minefield, which is your terrain. But I

0:51:37.480 --> 0:51:40.920
<v Speaker 3>think that again, the acknowledgment to the employee going you

0:51:41.080 --> 0:51:44.440
<v Speaker 3>actually were wronged here, this person is going to apologize

0:51:44.520 --> 0:51:46.880
<v Speaker 3>to you. We just want you to feel safe in

0:51:47.000 --> 0:51:47.640
<v Speaker 3>your workplace.

0:51:47.960 --> 0:51:49.000
<v Speaker 7>That's exactly right, Phil.

0:51:49.160 --> 0:51:51.680
<v Speaker 9>So there's room for new rituals here, new kind of

0:51:51.719 --> 0:51:55.520
<v Speaker 9>workplace rituals, new kind of legal rituals that marry the

0:51:55.600 --> 0:51:57.279
<v Speaker 9>mental health with the law.

0:51:58.880 --> 0:52:00.680
<v Speaker 7>And I think this is the ideal space of it.

0:52:00.840 --> 0:52:02.560
<v Speaker 7>Consider what that might look like.

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<v Speaker 3>Good to talk to you, mate, Thank you so much,

0:52:04.719 --> 0:52:06.719
<v Speaker 3>and it's really interesting some of the stuff that you

0:52:06.840 --> 0:52:10.160
<v Speaker 3>brought there. Doctor Tanvia Ahmet also on two GB, but

0:52:10.239 --> 0:52:14.840
<v Speaker 3>there the psychiatrist and social commentator talking about the psychological

0:52:15.000 --> 0:52:19.439
<v Speaker 3>compensation claims. Twenty two minutes past five twenty and six

0:52:19.560 --> 0:52:22.480
<v Speaker 3>minutes past five getting ready for ben Fordham on two

0:52:22.600 --> 0:52:25.279
<v Speaker 3>GB coming up at five point thirty. Peter Vegan in

0:52:25.440 --> 0:52:28.520
<v Speaker 3>Brisbane at four BC, also at five point thirty, and

0:52:29.320 --> 0:52:32.640
<v Speaker 3>then the great Man Mike Levy's fresh off the back

0:52:32.719 --> 0:52:35.200
<v Speaker 3>of the Big Call last night, the Continuous Call Team.

0:52:35.239 --> 0:52:37.840
<v Speaker 3>He'll be here doing his thing from nine o'clock this morning.

0:52:37.920 --> 0:52:40.480
<v Speaker 3>It is cold in Sydney, cold in Brisbane. Cold in

0:52:40.600 --> 0:52:44.120
<v Speaker 3>Sydney about five so it feels like two degrees that

0:52:44.280 --> 0:52:46.520
<v Speaker 3>time of the year when if we're not talking about

0:52:46.560 --> 0:52:49.720
<v Speaker 3>the financial year, you're going to be talking about your health.

0:52:50.239 --> 0:52:52.720
<v Speaker 3>And there's something that you really need to get yourself

0:52:52.800 --> 0:52:55.120
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0:52:55.239 --> 0:52:56.880
<v Speaker 3>know a man who would know all about that, and

0:52:56.960 --> 0:52:58.720
<v Speaker 3>that's Jeff Cock. How are you this morning, buddy?

0:52:59.120 --> 0:53:02.279
<v Speaker 15>Yeah, good morning, good morning. Look, if you're feeling a

0:53:02.320 --> 0:53:05.200
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0:53:05.239 --> 0:53:08.960
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0:53:17.120 --> 0:53:19.440
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0:53:19.520 --> 0:53:20.800
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<v Speaker 3>What makes it different though to the other supplements, Jeff.

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0:53:27.040 --> 0:53:29.760
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<v Speaker 3>That sounds like a win win to me, my friend,

0:53:53.480 --> 0:53:56.040
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0:53:56.080 --> 0:53:58.560
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<v Speaker 3>what what's the offer to do? Design on it?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know what that one is? The extra one

0:54:48.840 --> 0:54:49.680
<v Speaker 3>that you give people?

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<v Speaker 12>Do you know what?

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<v Speaker 3>That's a free b jef free that's staring me. I've

0:54:55.160 --> 0:54:57.440
<v Speaker 3>still got some stuff for you. Jeffrey, got to touch you,

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<v Speaker 3>It's nutrition for you to believe in. Okay, it's coming

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<v Speaker 3>up to nearly five thirty, which means that Ben Fordham

0:55:06.200 --> 0:55:09.279
<v Speaker 3>is on his way, followed by Mark Levy and Peter

0:55:09.400 --> 0:55:12.560
<v Speaker 3>Fvegan coming up this morning from five thirty in Brisbane.

0:55:12.800 --> 0:55:15.799
<v Speaker 3>Great win last night for the Queenslanders. Of course Peter

0:55:15.880 --> 0:55:18.160
<v Speaker 3>Fegan will be crying on about that, but enjoy it

0:55:18.239 --> 0:55:21.520
<v Speaker 3>while you can, because game three is certainly going to

0:55:21.560 --> 0:55:23.959
<v Speaker 3>be the one that's going to make the difference. It'll

0:55:24.320 --> 0:55:26.719
<v Speaker 3>show the difference between the boys and the men. I

0:55:26.800 --> 0:55:28.759
<v Speaker 3>didn't get the chance to talk about Shark, so I'll

0:55:28.840 --> 0:55:31.160
<v Speaker 3>do that again when I'm back here after midnight tonight,

0:55:31.200 --> 0:55:34.240
<v Speaker 3>because it's a fifty year anniversary after the movie Jaws

0:55:34.320 --> 0:55:36.799
<v Speaker 3>that scared the absolute hell out of everybody, and also

0:55:36.880 --> 0:55:39.040
<v Speaker 3>the story behind the song. We will be doing that

0:55:39.320 --> 0:55:43.200
<v Speaker 3>again after midnight tonight. And it's Paranormal Friday, so there's

0:55:43.200 --> 0:55:46.080
<v Speaker 3>a guy who is going to talk about outside body

0:55:46.280 --> 0:55:49.560
<v Speaker 3>experiences and how you can get involved in something like that.

0:55:50.120 --> 0:55:51.880
<v Speaker 3>Just a little something to get you into the weekend.

0:55:52.120 --> 0:55:54.879
<v Speaker 3>Have yourself a fantastic day. Obviously, stay warm because it's

0:55:54.880 --> 0:55:56.520
<v Speaker 3>pretty cold out there, and I'll talk to you at

0:55:56.560 --> 0:55:57.200
<v Speaker 3>midnight tonight.