WEBVTT - Billy on Game 2: “Change is important” 0:00:02.240 --> 0:00:05.360 Nine Podcasts. 0:00:07.640 --> 0:00:11.360 Welcome everyone to another edition of the Billy Slater Podcast. 0:00:11.400 --> 0:00:15.640 We've just had Round thirteen of the NRL and well 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:18.079 a couple of teams really starting to put their hand 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:22.760 up as premiership contenders after impressive performances on the weekend, 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:26.400 especially the Warriors and at the canber Raiders. So much 0:00:26.440 --> 0:00:29.520 to talk about, and as we're doing it all thanks 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:32.839 to tab Hello, Billy. 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:37.080 Good morning Salty. Heading into round fourteen, we're pretty much 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:39.599 halfway through the year and twenty seven rounds, so we're 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:43.440 nearly exactly halfway through the year and the ladders starting 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:46.360 to take shape, and there's some some surprises that we 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:49.479 probably didn't think that we're going to be jumping out 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:52.080 of the ground at this time of the year. And 0:00:52.560 --> 0:00:55.520 there's certainly some teams outside the eight that we probably 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:58.720 thought were going to be inside the eight. So halfway 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:01.240 through the year and the season and start to take shape. 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:05.440 Billy, just on the ladder, there's three wins between fifth 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:06.160 and last. 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:08.039 Have you seen a ladder like it? 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:10.399 I mean, actually, if you really want to go a 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:14.959 bit further, between second and last on the table, seventeenth 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:18.559 on the table, there's only the five wins it's so congested. 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:24.280 Yeah, and to think yesterday's game Paramatta and Penrith. Penrith 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:28.400 went into that in the last position. Now they've won 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:33.280 four games this season. There are teams inside the eight. 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:35.880 There's two teams inside the eight that have won five games. 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:40.520 So they went into last weekend's round in last position 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:44.560 and now there are only one win behind a couple 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:47.119 of teams that are sitting inside the top eight. So 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:49.720 it is so close. You put a good month of 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:53.360 football together and all of a sudden you're thinking that 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:54.880 you're a chance of winning the competition. 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:57.800 That was such a high quality game yesterday that we 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:01.240 saw on nine between the Panthers and the Eels could 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:05.640 have gone either way. We've seen in recent times the 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:10.360 improvement the Eels are making under Jason Ryles. But you 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:13.880 know that was a big two points for Penrith yesterday. 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:16.120 But Billy, what a high quality game of football it was. 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:19.600 Yeah, absolutely, I agree with that, SALTI. If that was 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:22.840 game one of the semi finals in September, you'd be 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:25.920 pretty pretty excited about how the final series is going 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:30.800 to shape up. And I certainly agree with the improvement 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:34.640 of Paramatta. Actually, Paramatta were one team at the start 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:36.880 of the year that I thought was going to take 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:41.519 leaps forward. They were my pick to climb the ladder 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:45.160 and be a bit of a surprise. They had some 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:48.840 injuries to some key players throughout the opening ten rounds 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:52.000 and that certainly helped. And then on top of that, 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:55.440 they've they've taken a little bit to understand what Jason 0:02:55.520 --> 0:03:00.919 Roles is trying to implement and all the things that 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:02.960 that he wants to bring into the football team. So 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:08.079 they looked really dangerous. They were desperate without the football, 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:10.040 and then with the football they all looked like they 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:12.760 were on the same page. And it took a really 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:16.960 committed Penrith team who probably had the best forward pack 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:23.360 that they've fielded this year. It was certainly a premiership 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:27.160 winning forward pack and it took every bit of their 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:30.799 quality to get over the paramount. Ears thought it was 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:32.840 a wonderful game and both teams should hold their head 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:33.840 up high. 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:37.880 Just one game and what was a terrific Sunday of 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:41.240 rugby league. The two other winners either side of that 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:43.560 game made mention of them right at the top. 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:44.640 The Warriors. 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:49.920 Let's talk about their performance against sous who also an 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:53.400 improving team. But the Warriors just keep getting it done 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:58.720 and importantly Billy on this side of the Tasman Yeah. 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:01.160 Yeah, the Warriors are just lining under the radar at 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:06.160 the moment. They haven't got the superstar key position players 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:08.400 like some of the other teams do, but they all 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:11.760 work really well as a football team. Andrew Webster's done 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:14.080 a great job over there. The other storyline to come 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:16.320 out of this game is Alex Johnston scored a hat 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:20.000 trick and he notched up a double century and tries 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:23.240 in the NRL, only the second player to ever do that. 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:26.559 He's on his way to be in the all time 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:31.160 try scorer in our game's history, which is an incredible achievement. 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:33.800 He's only got twelve to go, I believe, or eleven 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:38.400 to go or something to go. Yeah, yeah, that's certainly 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:40.120 a storyline to come out of that game as well. 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:41.479 Yeah, you're not wrong there. 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:43.080 And if you have a look at the Rabbit o's 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:45.240 and who they've got between now and the rest of 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:49.279 the season, if he keeps going and scores a try 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:51.720 or two each week, we could get to a round 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:54.400 twenty seven and he could break the record against the Roosters. 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:55.840 Yeah, wouldn't that be. 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:59.880 Something that's incredible And he's done it with a great 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:02.760 strike rate as well. To think that Cody Walker is 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:04.320 not on the left hand side of the field at 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:06.560 the moment and he's still scoring hat tricks. Imagine when 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.560 when Cody Walker gets back and you know he's certainly 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:11.120 going to put him over for a few as well. 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:13.360 Be quicker service from your dummy half. For most of 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:15.520 your career, you might have had over two hundred. 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:18.480 I know, if you give me the ball a bit 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:22.320 more often. That's what you got to deal with when 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:24.200 you play with Cameras. 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:26.320 The cards dealt with, cards dealt with. 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:28.360 He's responsible for plenty of more. 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:31.719 I was like complain, of course, not hello Cam. 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:34.560 No doubt he'll be He'll be watching Keen viewer of 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:42.200 the podcast Billy No Jamal Fogardi for Canbra, no problem. 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:44.960 This was a high quality game last night as well. 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:48.400 The Roosters, well they're on the precipice of the eight. 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:53.240 But Canbra they're playing some terrific football, aren't they. 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:56.960 Yeah, a little bit like Paramounta. The Roosters have really 0:05:56.960 --> 0:05:59.720 got their game on now and they're they're one of 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:03.200 the teams of the competition. You know, some of their 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:05.640 star players are playing the best I've seen them play, 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:08.800 and Victor Radley's doing a great job, and also James 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:13.479 Tedesco and the young players are really stepping up. But 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:18.960 the Raiders, the Raiders are they're the team of the 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:23.640 competition at the moment. And I'll tell you why. They've 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:26.480 won more games than any other team in the competition. 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:29.679 I know they're not sitting first, but they've won ten games. 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:34.320 The Bulldogs have only won nine. Now, the Raiders are 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:37.840 the only team in the competition that haven't had to 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:40.479 buy yet. Everyone else has had to buy. And the 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:43.440 Bulldogs in the Storm, who sit inside the top four, 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:47.919 they've had two buys. So the Raiders are sitting really 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:53.960 pretty at the moment. They're playing tough, brave football. And 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:57.120 then on top of that you think about their key 0:06:57.160 --> 0:07:00.480 position players. The four key position players are really in 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:04.320 experience that played on the weekend. You've got young Paddy 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:07.240 at number nine, who's doing an exceptional job when he 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:11.880 comes on the field, Strange and Sanders who are very 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:16.600 young in their careers, and then Kylee Wicks who Ricky 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:18.640 stew has done a fantastic job and put a lot 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:21.040 of faith in him when he's come up with a 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:24.320 few errors in his development stage of his career and 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:28.160 he's really stuck by him and you can see the 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:31.320 confidence that he's playing with at the moment Because of it, 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:36.240 they're a team that are probably the team of the 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:38.760 competition at the moment, but you can actually see where 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:40.800 they're going to get to in years to come. It's 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:42.160 exciting for the Raiders. 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:45.680 I love the camaraderie that they have there. They're all 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:48.920 not only playing for the coach, but playing for each other. 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:51.880 There's a lot of pride in that green jersey in 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:52.840 the nation's capital. 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:56.800 Yeah, there's a real connection there, isn't there And that's 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:59.800 really important in a footy team. So there's a lot 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:02.280 going well for the Canberra Raiders. And I know it's 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:05.640 only halfway through the season and Ricky Stewart would be 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:08.000 keeping a lid on it. There's a massive game down 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:11.200 in Canberra this weekend with Josh Popole he breaking that 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:15.760 the all time Raiders record in games played. That's that's 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:20.280 huge for Big Poppa and knowing how Canberra do it, 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:22.920 that'll be a celebration and a half down there. 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:25.520 Sure will tell us about him, Billy, he was an 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:26.720 Origin teammate of yours. 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:28.920 You had to come up against him at club level. 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:33.640 But tell us about Josh and what he brought to 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:37.720 a team, particularly when you're playing together in Origin for Queensland. 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:41.599 Well, firstly, he's a real gentleman. He's a real respectful 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:46.120 person and a great guy off the field, and when 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:47.840 he's in your footy team, you just walk that little 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:51.240 bit taller. He's one of those guys that he's a leader. 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:53.680 He doesn't say a whole heap, but he leads with 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:55.920 his actions and he makes you feel that little bit 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:58.520 safer when he's next to you in the same color jersey. 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:06.319 And he's had a wonderful career in all jerseys, Camber Raiders, Queensland, Australia, 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:10.640 he's played for Samoa. He's been a wonderful player for 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:13.520 our game and he's still got plenty to offer. So 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:18.880 congratulations to Big Poppa and hopefully he can enjoy the 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:21.679 occasion and you know, I'm sure the campber Raiders and 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:24.720 the footy team around him will will make it a 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:26.000 memorable one for him. 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:30.040 Just a quick little story on that to highlight something 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:32.640 he said there about him being a gentleman. I know 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:37.120 that when a devoted Canberra fan was going to Cambra 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:39.959 to watch the game. A few years ago, when when 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:43.840 Josh was still playing Origin, Ricky went to the players 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:48.160 it was the game after an Origin match and he said, look, 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:51.080 there's this fan coming down and I'm going to go 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:51.960 to the airport. 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:53.400 And to meet him. Anyone want to come along? 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:55.319 And Josh put his hand up and said, yep, I'm 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:57.280 going to come and they went to the airport to 0:09:57.679 --> 0:09:58.240 meet this fan. 0:09:58.800 --> 0:09:59.439 That says a lot. 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:01.680 Actually, I think about the whole club there with Ricky 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:04.640 finding out about this particular supporter who wants to go 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:09.480 on and watch the Raiders play, and they're just such 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:12.679 a wonderful group and I think that that highlights as 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:15.480 you've been talking about the culture within the club and 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:16.720 Josh as a person. 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:20.160 Yeah, that's a wonderful story and that doesn't surprise me. 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:24.520 You know, they see they see everyone as important and 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:27.360 you know that it means a lot to him. You 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:29.520 hear rick you Stewart talk about the support of the 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:32.960 Canberra people and you know our game is a passionate 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:35.840 game and to have that passion for your footy team 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:39.360 and the people who support the footy team. It's all 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:42.440 rolled into one and yeah, that doesn't surprise me. 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:46.000 It's a nice story, Billy, just on the Raiders and 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:47.760 I think you'll know where I'm going from here when 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:50.600 I bring up Corey Hawes bro Will you impressed with 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:54.280 his performance on Sunday Night. 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:57.079 Yeah, he's been doing a really good job. I think 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:59.240 he's had a really good year. He's obviously had a 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:02.600 big off season and with that, you know, you give 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:06.720 yourself a chance to play really consistent football throughout the year. 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:10.280 I remember when he played State of Origin a couple 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:13.960 of years ago that that was a real a real 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:16.440 fabric of his game and a foundation of his game 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:18.959 was his fitness and doing all the little things well. 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:22.679 And he certainly got himself back to that point and 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:26.880 that standard of football. So yeah, he's another guy that's 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:31.360 that's really playing well. He's actually keeping Josh Populi on 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:32.959 the on the bench who's coming on and doing a 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:37.959 great job just before halftime. So that's Bigs Volumes. 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:42.760 When we talk about Origin and looking back to last Wednesday. 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:44.920 But now I suppose you're at the stage where you're 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:50.319 certainly looking forward to to Perth and obviously people start 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:52.520 coming up with all different theories and want to change 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:56.280 this and and and change that. And I know that 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:59.120 you there might be a couple of minor changes to 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:01.880 the team. I don't know you're you're you're the coach, 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:04.800 but you're very good at blocking out a lot of 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:08.600 that outside noise, and the players are as well. 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:10.679 So when you. 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:13.480 Look when you're moving forward to to Perth, what's in 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:15.320 your thinking at the moment? 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:22.640 Yeah, it's it's really important, you know the noise. Once 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:25.480 you hear something, you can't unhear it. So it's important 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:27.839 to try not to hear it in the first place, 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:32.120 that's the first thing, and not let it influence you 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:35.280 know how you go about things, and you talk about change, 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:39.600 and you know when you don't, when you don't perform 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:42.120 well or you don't you don't get the best out 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:46.360 of yourself and your footy team, you certainly need to change. 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:49.440 Change is really important because if you if you expect 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:52.120 to do the same thing and expect the same a 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:56.520 different result, well you're probably silly. So but change doesn't 0:12:56.840 --> 0:13:01.760 always necessarily mean change personnel. But you can change actions, 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:05.199 you can change attitudes, and you can change a view 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:09.439 of how you approach things. So I'm a believer that 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:13.320 something needs to change. And probably right now it's it's Monday, 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:17.600 we played last Wednesday, and we go into camp in 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:20.520 a week's time, So right now I'm probably in that 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:27.000 transition stage of undergoing reviewing the game, you know, talking 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:31.520 to the coaches, talking to the selectors, talking to people 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:35.560 whose opinion I see is important, and then and then 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:39.440 collating all that information and building a plan for seven 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:44.280 days time. That's where I'm at now. Change is certainly 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:47.560 a part of that because we didn't play our best football. 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:52.559 We were nowhere near discipline enough, and if we don't 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:55.400 change that, we can't expect a different result. 0:13:56.920 --> 0:14:00.400 When you look at and using that word change and 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:03.559 people often think that, as you said, it just means 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:06.520 players in, players out. But you can you can shuffle 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:10.079 things around, because is it a case of when if 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:13.240 you do make wholesale changes now And I'm not saying 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:15.320 you would, but I'm talking more in general terms that 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:19.000 it can upset your serious preparation, particularly when a lot 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:23.600 of people start talking about your number seven, and you know, 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:26.760 when the forwards are being dominated, there's not much DCE 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:29.840 can it can do when he tried really hard last week. 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:31.640 But if you were to make a change there, it 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:36.080 upsets your your serious preparation as well. I suppose there's 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:38.760 that's one of many factors that you'd have to consider 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:40.480 when you do sit down over the next week or so. 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:43.200 Yeah, you just got to You're gonna look look at 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:46.480 what's important and what's gonna what's going to help the 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:49.920 footy team play their best. That that's essentially my My 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:53.640 role is is the guide these guys and help them 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:59.680 perform their best together. That's that's what a coach does. 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:03.040 So individually you want to help the guys get the 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:05.960 best out of themselves, but collectively as a footy team, 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:09.480 you want them to connect and and play their best 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:13.400 football together. And that'll be that'll be the focus going 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:16.240 into the next seven days and then once we get 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:19.360 into camp, we'll be full steam ahead to try and 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:20.200 get that happen. 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:23.320 And is the response from the players too. 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:25.560 Something you looked at from over the weekend and I 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:29.000 speak of daily Tom Tom did and just to name 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:31.680 a couple, and in fact, there was quite a few 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:34.480 members of the Queensland team that I thought really put 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:37.200 in impressive performances over the weekend. 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:39.640 The way they responded is that something you look at. 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:42.320 Also, I think it shows a bit of character when 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:45.760 I love seeing players back up. You know, I've been 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:48.560 one of those players, and it's not easy. It's it's 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:51.960 probably easier physically than it is mentally, because Origin is 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:54.840 such an emotional game. It's it's a it's a big 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:57.000 build up, and it takes so much to get up 0:15:57.040 --> 0:16:00.480 to that level emotionally and mentally, and then and then 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:02.480 you come down, and then you've got to try and 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:04.880 get yourself back up there in a short period of time. 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:09.200 So the mental and emotional roller coaster of Origin can 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:12.560 really hit you. So to see not just the Queensland 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:16.120 players I thought, I thought Nathan Cleary and Mitchell Moses 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:20.200 really went after the game yesterday, you know, to see 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:24.680 Origin players back up these days and play the way 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:29.600 that they did, you know, those three players did in 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:35.400 Cherry Evans Cleary, that was that was a real professional 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:39.800 performance by those three guys. And it's a pleasure to 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:41.680 watch that sort of stuff because it shows a whole 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:42.320 heap of character. 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:45.760 When we talk about players backing up, missing me to 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:49.400 leave out Tino, who was enormous in a beaten side 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:50.400 on Saturday afternoon. 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:54.800 I think you played about seventy seventy five minutes or 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:58.760 something like that. And I don't think I've ever seen 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:02.200 Tino go onto the footy field and leave anything in 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:05.199 the tank. And he did the same thing for the 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:08.480 Titans up against the Melbourne Storm, which was a real 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:12.440 miserable afternoon on the gold Coase. It was torrential rain 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:18.360 and really hampered both sides with the football. But yeah, 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:20.199 he's one guy that can really hold his head up 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:22.440 high most definitely. 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:27.359 You're always one that thinks a little bit outside the 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:31.639 box in with the players. 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:33.200 That you've got in your team. 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:36.360 Do you start say, I'll throw I'll throw a scenario 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:38.399 up at you and you give me the sort of 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:41.880 answer you want, Like a Ruben Kado could play. We've 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:45.000 seen him play dummy half before. Would you say, look 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:46.920 at something like that. Bring Harry off the bench where 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:51.199 he's been really effective in origin in the past. So 0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:53.240 while people are looking at changes and saying this play 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:55.040 has got to come in and out, do you start 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:57.639 looking at, okay, that these are the piece of the 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:00.520 puzzle that I've got already and and look at. 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:03.120 Different ways to use those within your team. 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:07.879 Yeah, absolutely, I look at all different options. But the 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:10.680 one thing you've got to be careful with Salty is 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:13.000 is plugging a hole over there and then letting two 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:17.680 holes leak over the other side. So so when you 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:20.840 like like people talk about changes, Oh this blake should 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:22.280 be in the team, you've got to You've got to 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:25.440 get rid of someone too, you know. So you can't 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:28.600 have everything. And I understand, you know in the media. 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:30.720 I work in the media, and it's easy to sit 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:32.800 there and go, oh, this should happen, that should happen, 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:36.960 But you've got to think about the repercussions of those decisions. 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:41.520 So there's a there's a fair thought process to go 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:45.520 through when when you're thinking about this. But at the 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:47.480 end of the day, I don't think it's it's a 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:52.240 personnel thing, you know. I think if if we played 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:55.919 with more discipline and we played more together in the 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:59.680 way that we prepared, I think we would have given 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:03.920 ourselves a better chance. And the other thing is we 0:19:04.040 --> 0:19:07.040 played against a really good team. New South Wales are 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:10.240 playing really good football at the moment and they're not 0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:13.600 giving their opposition much and when you're not at your best, 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:18.160 it magnifies things. So they were too good for us 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:22.280 in game one and it's up to us to rise 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:22.960 to the standard. 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:26.160 Just one more on Origin, Billy, looking forward to next 0:19:26.200 --> 0:19:28.840 week and we will catch up next week ahead of 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:29.800 the game in Perth. 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:31.600 Does it change anything? 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:36.360 This game in Perth has often played different conditions because 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:40.160 a lot drier part of the world, because we're kicking 0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:43.680 off at six pm rather than the eight pm here 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:46.000 where there's the heavy dew that comes in and if 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:49.919 there's no rain around. It's a little bit different style 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:50.840 of origin, isn't it. 0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:55.000 Yeah, look, you always look at the weather and adjust 0:19:55.119 --> 0:20:01.520 to that style of football, but it won't affect our preparation. 0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:06.960 We just need to work out, you know, where we 0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:10.080 went wrong, how we get our best football on and 0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:13.919 be together and go after it. That that's essentially what 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:16.520 we need to do. And you know, whether it's a 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:19.120 six o'clock kickoff, eight o'clock kickoff, it's raining or it's 0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:22.320 dry like at the end of the day, they're little adjustments, 0:20:22.560 --> 0:20:25.840 you know, towards the game. But yeah, that's not the 0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:27.000 foundation of our footy. 0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:30.080 Okay, all right, let's get back onto the NRL. 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:33.720 And oh there's some soul searching at Redhill in Brisbane 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:38.080 at the moment. One win in the last seven weeks 0:20:38.080 --> 0:20:40.879 for the Broncos. Ironically it was against one of the 0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:43.800 top teams of the competition in the in the Bulldogs. 0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:46.880 But can you put your put your finger on what's 0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:49.480 going on at Brisbane at the moment. 0:20:50.200 --> 0:20:53.960 No, not really. Look, there's there's a few things obviously 0:20:53.960 --> 0:20:55.040 that they've got a few injuries. 0:20:56.000 --> 0:20:56.199 You know. 0:20:56.400 --> 0:20:58.480 Ezra MEM's just come back into the team, so there's 0:20:58.480 --> 0:21:03.879 some continuity there. Rhys Walsh, he's a real spark for 0:21:03.960 --> 0:21:06.600 the Broncos, which in Selwyn Cobbo played a bit of fullback. 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:09.760 Jessee Arthur's played fullback on the weekend, so there's been 0:21:09.760 --> 0:21:13.320 a bit of shuffling around within the footy team. But 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:16.720 at the same time I'm sure there's a bit of 0:21:16.760 --> 0:21:19.639 disconnect as well. They don't look as fluent as they 0:21:20.520 --> 0:21:22.560 have done when they played their best football at the 0:21:22.600 --> 0:21:28.720 start of the year. So yeah, without being inside Redhill, 0:21:29.480 --> 0:21:32.680 you're not really sure on what is going on. It's 0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:37.320 more about just watching their performances and manly they look 0:21:37.400 --> 0:21:41.800 really enthusiastic. They looked like they went after their attack 0:21:42.600 --> 0:21:45.600 and they were just too much for the Broncos I 0:21:45.600 --> 0:21:47.480 thought mainly were exceptional actually. 0:21:47.800 --> 0:21:51.600 Talking about Manly in just a moment. It's a point 0:21:51.600 --> 0:21:55.840 that you make there about the personnel at Brisbane. I 0:21:55.880 --> 0:21:58.400 think off the top of the head, it's six games 0:21:58.440 --> 0:22:02.159