1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,360 S1: Dillon and Barno are from the City of Rockingham. Counselor. 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,480 S1: That raised the motion around the bins being emptied. Fortnightly 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:11,760 S1: are denied a motion to return the Red bin collection weekly. 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,000 S1: It was five all, and the mayor had the casting 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,320 S1: final vote at the meeting. The meeting got a little 6 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:16,800 S1: bit feisty. 7 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:23,120 S2: Well, yeah. People were passionate about their rubbish. Dillon. Good morning. Hello, Dillon. 8 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,279 S3: And I'll just start off by saying I'm not speaking 9 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,640 S3: in my capacity as a councillor, speaking in my personal 10 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,960 S3: capacity here. And I'm certainly not speaking on behalf of 11 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:30,680 S3: the City of Rockingham. 12 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,120 S2: Righto. But obviously you would have been upset with the 13 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,400 S2: result last night if you raised the motion to return 14 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,360 S2: it to a weekly rubbish collection. 15 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,720 S3: Yeah. Well, this well, I intended the reason I raised 16 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,320 S3: it is because, you know, for people, families struggling with 17 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,320 S3: nappies and, you know, small children and, you know, women 18 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:50,080 S3: using sanitary pads, you know, these are non-recyclable items, you know. 19 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,320 S3: So certainly it was made clear to me that the 20 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,520 S3: majority of residents wanted this change, and that's why I 21 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,480 S3: raised it. But this is part of the democratic process. And, 22 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,920 S3: you know, there's been reactions on social media and whatnot. 23 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:03,690 S3: So Uh, yeah. 24 00:01:03,690 --> 00:01:05,050 S2: So is it dead in the water? 25 00:01:06,569 --> 00:01:10,929 S3: Well, as far as legislation legislatively, yes. You know, the 26 00:01:10,930 --> 00:01:15,250 S3: council has made a decision. This is we respect council's decision. But, 27 00:01:15,290 --> 00:01:17,729 S3: you know, still very much in the community, this is 28 00:01:17,730 --> 00:01:21,290 S3: a topic that people are still, you know, angry about. 29 00:01:21,330 --> 00:01:24,330 S3: We'll have views about. And, you know, this is, uh, 30 00:01:24,370 --> 00:01:27,210 S3: certainly possibly a feature that could issue that could come 31 00:01:27,209 --> 00:01:27,970 S3: up in the future. 32 00:01:28,010 --> 00:01:30,130 S2: Alright. So, um, I want to play a little bit 33 00:01:30,130 --> 00:01:33,010 S2: of audio from the council meeting last night. It went 34 00:01:33,010 --> 00:01:34,089 S2: down a bit like this. 35 00:01:34,250 --> 00:01:37,370 S4: So the motion is that council adopts that the red 36 00:01:37,410 --> 00:01:41,490 S4: bin general waste collection be moved back to being collected weekly. 37 00:01:41,490 --> 00:01:45,570 S4: All those in favor? That's five. All I have casting 38 00:01:45,569 --> 00:01:48,730 S4: vote as presiding member. I will not change my position. 39 00:01:48,730 --> 00:01:51,730 S4: And I vote no to the motion. So the motion 40 00:01:51,730 --> 00:01:58,090 S4: is lost. Six, five. Thank you. You are interfering and 41 00:01:58,090 --> 00:02:01,330 S4: disrupting this meeting. Please leave quietly. 42 00:02:02,090 --> 00:02:04,570 S5: We've got an elected council of sycophants. 43 00:02:04,810 --> 00:02:11,190 S4: Please leave the meeting quietly without interfering or interrupting this meeting. 44 00:02:12,310 --> 00:02:15,669 S4: If this continues, I will adjourn the meeting as per 45 00:02:15,669 --> 00:02:20,230 S4: clause 16.9 of the City of Rockingham. Standing Orders, Local 46 00:02:20,230 --> 00:02:21,830 S4: Law 2001. 47 00:02:21,870 --> 00:02:24,310 S2: Wow. So that's Lorna Bucket, who's the mayor of the 48 00:02:24,310 --> 00:02:26,510 S2: city of Rockingham doing a, you know, best work. 49 00:02:26,550 --> 00:02:28,790 S1: The best way, the best way to take up your 50 00:02:28,790 --> 00:02:30,950 S1: fight is when they come up for re-election. Just vote 51 00:02:30,950 --> 00:02:32,270 S1: them out. That's the easiest way. 52 00:02:32,310 --> 00:02:34,750 S2: Well, Dylan, thank you for your point of view as 53 00:02:34,830 --> 00:02:37,670 S2: not as a councillor, but as an individual. And we'll 54 00:02:37,710 --> 00:02:40,709 S2: hear from the mayor of the city of Rockingham right now. Lorna. 55 00:02:40,750 --> 00:02:41,470 S2: Good morning. 56 00:02:42,230 --> 00:02:43,070 S6: Hi. Good morning. 57 00:02:43,110 --> 00:02:45,230 S2: Are you happy with the decision you made last night 58 00:02:45,230 --> 00:02:46,669 S2: in in hindsight. 59 00:02:47,430 --> 00:02:48,590 S6: Oh, absolutely. 60 00:02:48,990 --> 00:02:51,790 S2: Right. So how do you respond to someone like Citizen Dylan, 61 00:02:51,790 --> 00:02:55,190 S2: who was worried about nappies and sanitary products being in 62 00:02:55,230 --> 00:02:56,750 S2: bins for long periods of time? 63 00:02:57,630 --> 00:03:01,510 S6: Um, so we have had a long term strategy since 64 00:03:01,510 --> 00:03:05,669 S6: 2011 to introduce the Better Bins program. So this is 65 00:03:05,669 --> 00:03:09,840 S6: nothing new. And this program of Fogo has been rolled 66 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,760 S6: out across at least 2526 local governments so far, with 67 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:18,000 S6: more to come. And you know, everyone else is managing. 68 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,720 S6: I don't see why City of Rockingham is any different. 69 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,519 S1: So who's everybody else? Because at my council doesn't have 70 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,080 S1: a fortnightly bin collection houses weekly. Lorna. 71 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,640 S6: Yeah, I can provide you with a list later. I 72 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,160 S6: don't have the list with me at the moment. 73 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:31,680 S1: Well, I'm in the city of Stirling, which is the 74 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,280 S1: biggest one in the metropolitan area. 75 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,480 S6: Yeah, well, City of Rockingham is the biggest one that's 76 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:38,800 S6: now taken on Fogo. 77 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,800 S1: Right, right. And so why would you not want to 78 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,120 S1: get rid of stinky bins every week? Because mine's stinky. 79 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,400 S1: I know that I put all sorts of things in there. 80 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,560 S6: Well, our bin program is rolled out per the state strategy, 81 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,920 S6: which means all the stinky stuff goes into the green 82 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:57,640 S6: bin is collected weekly. 83 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,400 S2: You'd have to say, though, that it's not 100% unanimous. 84 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,320 S2: You 5050 and you've basically made the call yourself. 85 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,320 S6: Oh, well that's democracy. Um, my position is presiding member. Yeah. 86 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,410 S6: Is to make that call. We cannot have a hung decision. 87 00:04:11,410 --> 00:04:13,770 S6: We have to make a call. And that falls to me. 88 00:04:13,810 --> 00:04:16,690 S2: Right. So you believe that the. Sorry, but you believe 89 00:04:16,690 --> 00:04:19,850 S2: the majority of people of Rockingham would sit where you sit? 90 00:04:19,850 --> 00:04:22,290 S2: Because that's how you would have voted in the interest 91 00:04:22,290 --> 00:04:23,770 S2: of your city, the people. 92 00:04:24,650 --> 00:04:28,489 S6: Yeah, well, it wasn't just about bins. It was about responsibility, 93 00:04:28,529 --> 00:04:32,450 S6: wasn't it? It was about financial responsibility. Environmental responsibility. 94 00:04:32,490 --> 00:04:32,850 S1: It was about. 95 00:04:32,850 --> 00:04:34,770 S6: The generational responsibility. 96 00:04:34,970 --> 00:04:35,530 S1: It was about the. 97 00:04:35,529 --> 00:04:38,810 S6: Bins we make now. Yeah. The decisions we make now 98 00:04:38,810 --> 00:04:41,170 S6: about bins will shape our city for our children and 99 00:04:41,170 --> 00:04:44,410 S6: our grandchildren. The youngest in our community will live the 100 00:04:44,410 --> 00:04:47,770 S6: longest with the consequences of our waste policies. And we 101 00:04:47,770 --> 00:04:50,650 S6: owe them a system that protects their future and does 102 00:04:50,650 --> 00:04:51,570 S6: not burden it. 103 00:04:51,610 --> 00:04:54,810 S1: As it provides any services. What's the difference between collecting 104 00:04:54,810 --> 00:04:58,370 S1: a bin every week and every fortnight? What's the difference? 105 00:04:58,850 --> 00:05:03,730 S6: Well, we provide waste services to 57,000 households, and that 106 00:05:03,730 --> 00:05:06,089 S6: means we need to design a system that works for 107 00:05:06,089 --> 00:05:10,010 S6: the average family while still supporting those with additional needs, 108 00:05:10,010 --> 00:05:12,630 S6: which we have done. We have listened and we have adapted. 109 00:05:12,670 --> 00:05:14,349 S1: But you haven't listened a bit? 110 00:05:15,070 --> 00:05:18,510 S6: No. We have a medical bin program where for the 111 00:05:18,510 --> 00:05:23,110 S6: same waste fee, families with medical issues receive two bins 112 00:05:23,510 --> 00:05:25,589 S6: and they get a weekly pickup. So they're getting four 113 00:05:25,589 --> 00:05:28,870 S6: bins a fortnight. For larger families of seven or more, 114 00:05:28,910 --> 00:05:32,029 S6: they receive a 50% discount on a second red bin. 115 00:05:32,270 --> 00:05:34,990 S6: If you don't fit into either of those two categories 116 00:05:35,270 --> 00:05:38,669 S6: and anyone who genuinely needs more capacity, a second red 117 00:05:38,670 --> 00:05:41,589 S6: bin service is available for under $5 a week. 118 00:05:41,630 --> 00:05:44,430 S2: Right. Okay. All right. Well, obviously you live and die 119 00:05:44,430 --> 00:05:47,150 S2: by decisions. That's how democracy works, Lorna. So it'll be 120 00:05:47,150 --> 00:05:49,870 S2: interesting to see what happens going forward. We appreciate you 121 00:05:49,910 --> 00:05:50,910 S2: coming on this morning. 122 00:05:51,550 --> 00:05:53,750 S6: Yeah. Thank you. I just want to comment that the 123 00:05:53,750 --> 00:05:58,750 S6: rollout has been overwhelmingly positive. Our contamination rates are low. 124 00:05:58,950 --> 00:06:02,750 S6: Our participation participation is high. And we are on track 125 00:06:02,750 --> 00:06:07,590 S6: to divert 12,500 tonnes of food, organic green, organic material 126 00:06:07,589 --> 00:06:09,549 S6: from from landfill. And that's. 127 00:06:09,550 --> 00:06:12,630 S2: A success. That's great. I'll be able to sleep well tonight. Thanks, Lorna. 128 00:06:12,670 --> 00:06:14,909 S2: Lorna Buchan there. The mayor of the city of Rockingham. 129 00:06:14,910 --> 00:06:15,670 S2: What do you reckon of that?