Speaker 1: On two GB at network stations. This is Afternoons with
Speaker 1: Michael McClaren.
Speaker 2: Good afternoon, thanks for being with us. The second last
Speaker 2: day of May. It is May thirty. It's gorgeous outside.
Speaker 2: If you're one of those work from home types, today
Speaker 2: is a pretty good day to do it. Go and
Speaker 2: hang out the Washington hang outside with a cup of
Speaker 2: tea for a while. Gorgeous, gorgeous day one, three, one, eight, seven, three,
Speaker 2: the open line numbers. We push through Friday and enter
Speaker 2: the weekend. Plenty of footy on and looking forward to
Speaker 2: seeing the Tigers play this weekend. Of course the new
Speaker 2: South Wales girl the Origin series. They were defeated last
Speaker 2: night in Newcastle. It's always a good match. The caliber
Speaker 2: of the standard rugby league at the elite level in
Speaker 2: the women's part of the game is really extraordinary. If
Speaker 2: you haven't watched it, do it. It really is very
Speaker 2: very good. Now, what have we got for you between
Speaker 2: now and three o'clock. Well, a little later this hour
Speaker 2: I'll be speaking with a professor of urban planning from
Speaker 2: the Western Sydney University. There's a lot of talkers, you know,
Speaker 2: headlines everywhere at the moment following the defeat of the
Speaker 2: proposed sale of rose Hill for development. As to where
Speaker 2: all of these additional properties are going to go, they'll
Speaker 2: pretty much be units. But where are all the units
Speaker 2: going to go? If you're not going to get twenty
Speaker 2: five thousand new potential dwellings in rose Hill, you're still
Speaker 2: going to need them, where are you going to put them? Well,
Speaker 2: there was a master plan released the other day suggesting
Speaker 2: that we could really beef up the development at Sydney
Speaker 2: Olympic Park, and I think they want to call it
Speaker 2: the East Village or something like that. Another suggestion today,
Speaker 2: and a lot of this is coming from people with
Speaker 2: skin in the game, either connections to developers or whatever.
Speaker 2: But also former planning officials now remove from the constraints
Speaker 2: of government, so they're free to talk as they want
Speaker 2: or as they wish. So there's another suggestion today that
Speaker 2: in fact, just around here, the old Fish Market site
Speaker 2: and spilling into this part of Piermont where I am
Speaker 2: sitting right now, is right for far denser development than
Speaker 2: the original governmental proposal. Now that's probably true, but all
Speaker 2: along the way, and that's just two examples, there's obviously
Speaker 2: a lot of medium density six story units. This sort
Speaker 2: of thing going up all over the place, the north Shore,
Speaker 2: the inner West, everywhere you look.
Speaker 3: This is infill is happening.
Speaker 2: So the question is not so much do we need
Speaker 2: the properties the answers yes, The question is who is
Speaker 2: ensuring which body is ensuring that all the associated infrastructure
Speaker 2: goes along with it, Because the last thing you want
Speaker 2: to do is put in tens of thousands of new
Speaker 2: units in already reasonably heavily populated areas where the roads
Speaker 2: are already quite congested, the schools already pretty full, the
Speaker 2: hospital's already under strain. Without adding to the school facilities,
Speaker 2: the hospital better availabilities, the open space for people who,
Speaker 2: because they're living in flat won't have backyards, the kids
Speaker 2: going to want to run around, the dogs are going
Speaker 2: to need someone to go and chase the ball. This
Speaker 2: they're going to have parking. There's a lot of things
Speaker 2: that have to be factored in dare I mention water
Speaker 2: and energy availability. Now, I having spoken to a few
Speaker 2: mayors on this program over the years, they often tell
Speaker 2: me that they're under enormous pressure to sign off on
Speaker 2: the new developments. And when they push back and say, look, okay,
Speaker 2: we're not Nimbi's we're willing to do it within reason,
Speaker 2: But where's the money going to come from? Where's all
Speaker 2: the planning and all the gazetting for the schools, the
Speaker 2: hospitals and everything else, And they get two fifths of nothing.
Speaker 2: Come back to those questions. That's when they get reluctant
Speaker 2: to sign off. And they're right to be reluctant to
Speaker 2: sign off.
Speaker 3: So I want to.
Speaker 2: Speak to a planning expert about how we can put
Speaker 2: all of this together so that we're not doing the
Speaker 2: usual Australian trick, and that is retro fitting rather than
Speaker 2: planning in advance, so it's cheaper to do the latter
Speaker 2: than the former. Now Alice will be here speaking of Really,
Speaker 2: we've got our Domain real Estate segment later this afternoon,
Speaker 2: and don't forget if you want a property valued, just
Speaker 2: get in touch with us or go off my part
Speaker 2: of the website and there's a special form there.
Speaker 3: It's all there.
Speaker 2: Just fill it out name and addressing this sort of thing.
Speaker 2: We'll get all of that info to the people at Domain,
Speaker 2: they'll crunch the numbers. We'll get you on air, we'll
Speaker 2: chat about the property. You can tell us a bit
Speaker 2: about what it's like inside and all this sort of stuff,
Speaker 2: and we'll get you a price range that's part of
Speaker 2: the service of the segment. So that's later this afternoon.
Speaker 2: Now we've also got one last chance to get into
Speaker 2: the draw for that incredible National Wine Festival prize. I'll
Speaker 2: be drawing it out of the bottle as it were,
Speaker 2: later this afternoon. But there's one more chance to get
Speaker 2: in and hopefully, hopefully later today, I'll also get to
Speaker 2: speak to Warick Stacy. Now I've met Warwick once or twice,
Speaker 2: very impressive human being. He's now the one Nation senator
Speaker 2: elect for New South Wales. Pauline Hanson's team have done
Speaker 2: quite well. I think four Senate seats now for Pauline Hanson,
Speaker 2: one Nation, one of them coming from this state. Warick Stacy,
Speaker 2: he's got in there and so I hope to speak
Speaker 2: to him later this afternoon if we can arrange that
Speaker 2: His military credentials a sound and we do need, as
Speaker 2: Patrick wrote to me earlier on the text line, we
Speaker 2: do need people with know how in this space to
Speaker 2: really push the government to bring Ford the investment that
Speaker 2: is necessary to keep our commonwealth safe. So a figure
Speaker 2: like Warick Stacy in the Senate for that, if no
Speaker 2: other reason, I think will be in every Australian's interest.
Speaker 2: So we've got all of that and more. Stay with
Speaker 2: us one three, one eight seven three. By the way,
Speaker 2: news just coming through from the ABC that up to
Speaker 2: eight people believed to be from China have been detained
Speaker 2: by border protection authorities after reaching a very remote part
Speaker 2: of the Northern Territory coast by boat earlier this week.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen any other details about this, but the
Speaker 2: ABC has been told the first six members of the
Speaker 2: group were discovered by local workers on Tuesday while walking
Speaker 2: near the remote indigenous township of Madin Grader. That's approximately
Speaker 2: five hundred kilometers east of Darwin, up in Arnham Lands
Speaker 2: and there's not much there. Another two men were picked
Speaker 2: up the following day by indigenous rangers before eventually being
Speaker 2: taken into custody by the Australian Border Force. So far,
Speaker 2: I don't think they've commented on the operation, as the
Speaker 2: ABC reports, it's unclear where the group has now been taken,
Speaker 2: but a source familiar with the interception says the men
Speaker 2: were believed to be Chinese and had reached the Australian
Speaker 2: mainland by.
Speaker 3: Sea before being detected.
Speaker 2: Now, if my memory serves me right, this is certainly
Speaker 2: not the first incursion by Chinese nationals through these sort
Speaker 2: of routes. In fact, yes, late last year, the ABC
Speaker 2: reported on several suspected people smuggling operations involving Chinese nationals,
Speaker 2: including a venture which was disrupted by Indonesian authorities twelve
Speaker 2: months ago. So, for whatever reason, there's this appetite for
Speaker 2: some Chinese people to try to come here by boat.
Speaker 2: Perhaps they're fleeing political persecution. Who knows what the story is,
Speaker 2: but it seems to be happening a little more frequently
Speaker 2: than was the case in the past one three, one, eight,
Speaker 2: seven three, just gone seventeen past twelve. Nice to have
Speaker 2: you with us now. Of course, we're all familiar with
Speaker 2: the old saying a fool and his money are soon parted. Well,
Speaker 2: it seems there's no bigger fool than the government. But
Speaker 2: the problem being it's our money that they keep parting with.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: A report in The Herald just last night once again
Speaker 2: highlighting how millions and millions of dollars are siphoned off
Speaker 2: to indigenous related programs that are seldom audited, rarely effective,
Speaker 2: and often downright unaccountable, as Angus Thompson writes, according to
Speaker 2: a damning report from the Order to General, New South
Speaker 2: Wales taxpayer spent two hundred and twenty two million dollars
Speaker 2: on measures to close the gap, but less than half
Speaker 2: led to tangible outcomes for First Nations people less than half.
Speaker 2: And the sad thing is I doubt many of you
Speaker 2: would be surprised, because we've been here before and often.
Speaker 2: In fact, eight or so years ago, the team of
Speaker 2: the Center for Independent Studies wrote a submission to the
Speaker 2: Productivity Commission's Review into National Prosperity, and it suggested some
Speaker 2: ninety two percent of indigenous programs were not evaluated. Inefficiency
Speaker 2: was a hallmark of many such programs. Many were poorly
Speaker 2: targeted because they treated Indigenous people as some homogeneous blob,
Speaker 2: and unremarkably, there was significant overlap between the myriad programs
Speaker 2: on offer. Now, the paper that uncovered all of that
Speaker 2: was titled Mapping the Indigenous program and Funding Maize. Well,
Speaker 2: it seems very little expenditure photography has been done in
Speaker 2: the near decades since. Speaking of mapping, and as the
Speaker 2: New South Wales Order to General report says, quote, some
Speaker 2: individual projects have established effective partnerships and are beginning to
Speaker 2: demonstrate positive results. However, governance arrangements do not provide adequate
Speaker 2: oversight of delivery. Now, in Layman's terms, what they're saying
Speaker 2: is the taxpayer dollars being wasted because no one's checking
Speaker 2: to ensure the rivers of gold reach those who are
Speaker 2: in need. Now, look, I'm not sure whether all the
Speaker 2: findings from twenty sixteen still hold true, but back then,
Speaker 2: the Center for Independent Studies suggested the community of Tumola,
Speaker 2: and that's on the MacIntyre River, population three hundred, had
Speaker 2: something like seventy service providers delivering programs, which seems like
Speaker 2: an extremely generous ratio of service provider to resident. And
Speaker 2: it wouldn't surprise me if it's still the same story
Speaker 2: out there now, which begs the.
Speaker 3: Question who's accountable here?
Speaker 2: Who checks the efficacy of all of these services, let
Speaker 2: alone whether they're being delivered in a productive manner, and
Speaker 2: how many of the Indigenous specific budget is actually being
Speaker 2: spent on manpower instead of outcomes. Because tumul are aside.
Speaker 2: Believe me, there will be a small army clipping the
Speaker 2: ticket right up and down the food chain here and
Speaker 2: whether many of them are being held to account and
Speaker 2: forced to justify the merits of their offering, is anyone's
Speaker 2: guess now? Sadly, for the many Aboriginal people doing are tough,
Speaker 2: let alone for the nation's international reputation. The vast majority
Speaker 2: of closing the gap targets, first set in two thousand
Speaker 2: and seven and then expanded in twenty twenty, have not
Speaker 2: been met. In fact, only scant improvement has been measured,
Speaker 2: despite billions of dollars being poured in. From indigenous employment
Speaker 2: to infant mortality year twelve attainment rates to average life expectancy,
Speaker 2: the metrics are not on target. But when bodies like
Speaker 2: the New South Wales Order to General concludes and I
Speaker 2: quote the governance arrangements are not operating effectively and do
Speaker 2: not provide clear accountability for the delivery of national agreement initiatives.
Speaker 3: Is it any wonder now? I know?
Speaker 2: One of the key findings from a review done at
Speaker 2: the national level into all of this just last year,
Speaker 2: in fact, suggested too many in government and the public
Speaker 2: sector were reluctant to seed responsibility to Indigenous people and
Speaker 2: to take on board their views and experience from ground zero,
Speaker 2: as it were, Now, as Catherine Little from the so
Speaker 2: called Council of Peaks said at the time, quote government
Speaker 2: was still not meaningfully giving us a voice in the
Speaker 2: decisions that affect our lives end quote. Well, unfortunately that's
Speaker 2: a truism of government, whether you're Aboriginal or not. But
Speaker 2: even when they do consult indigenous bodies and inability to
Speaker 2: agree on outcomes only Hamper's progress. Again, as the Order
Speaker 2: to General report concludes, despite agreeing to work collaboratively, the
Speaker 2: New South Wales Premiers Department of the Coalition of Aboriginal
Speaker 2: Peaks have quote not formed a genuine partnership end quote. Now,
Speaker 2: as I've said many times before, until the very isolated
Speaker 2: and remote Aboriginal communities are closed and consolidation of populations
Speaker 2: is encouraged in larger town centers with the existing medical,
Speaker 2: educational employment opportunities, we're going to fail to see the
Speaker 2: sort of outcomes that one would expect considering the scale
Speaker 2: of investment in this space. You know, hard conversations are
Speaker 2: needed here and leaders with a practical rather than paternalist
Speaker 2: mindset must rise to the fore See, all taxpayers, I
Speaker 2: think should be appalled appalled that half of the two
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty two million dollars recently spent on closing
Speaker 2: the gap in this state was found to have no
Speaker 2: tangible benefit at all. But as I've said, it's but
Speaker 2: the latest chapter in a long story of misallocated, wasted
Speaker 2: and unaccounted expenditure by governments that seem to score their
Speaker 2: credentials in aboriginal affairs not by outcomes, but rather by
Speaker 2: the size of the check that they sign. A lot
Speaker 2: of feedback coming in on this Friday afternoon nights to
Speaker 2: have you there with us, by the way one three
Speaker 2: one eight seven three. The open line is open. You
Speaker 2: can keep the text coming zero four six zero eight
Speaker 2: seven three eight seven three. Someone rather cheekily suggested those
Speaker 2: suspected Chinese nationals up Arnam Land Way might have crept
Speaker 2: out of the sub as it went around the coast.
Speaker 2: I'm not quite sure that was the way they got here.
Speaker 2: I suspect it was a boat that was quite discernible
Speaker 2: from above water. But I like your thinking a lot
Speaker 2: of texts about the population issue. It really is the
Speaker 2: big one, the one that's hot to trot, because it's
Speaker 2: going to affect everybody one way or the other.
Speaker 3: Positively and negatively. I mean, we've got to be realistic here.
Speaker 2: It's a lot of people that own homes but whose
Speaker 2: children and grandchildren don't and are looking at the market
Speaker 2: and saying, well, unless something really gives, they're never going
Speaker 2: to own anything. So, you know, even those that may
Speaker 2: suffer to an extent because their neighborhood is about to
Speaker 2: change and the quarter acre blocks are going to go
Speaker 2: because we're getting apartments and there's going to be more
Speaker 2: cars on the road, even they many of them understand
Speaker 2: that if we just sort of set and forget, that's
Speaker 2: not going to help their next generation either. So it's
Speaker 2: a balancing act, okay, But that's what I'm saying in
Speaker 2: this whole maneuver. We've got a balance building new apartments
Speaker 2: with building the rest of the economy that is required
Speaker 2: to service them and the people that will be living
Speaker 2: in them, so that all the other metrics don't just.
Speaker 3: Fall in a heap.
Speaker 2: Now, a number of people on the text making the
Speaker 2: point that we wouldn't be chasing our tail as hard
Speaker 2: as we do if it weren't for the migration policy
Speaker 2: that we are running. And that is a very valid point.
Speaker 2: And I know as soon as you raise this, you're
Speaker 2: either accused of being racist or whatever, which is just ridiculous.
Speaker 2: It is simply numbers game. It's not the be all
Speaker 2: and end all. But it's quite obvious if you pump
Speaker 2: prime the market with lots of would be buyers and
Speaker 2: you can't match that with develop then you are going
Speaker 2: to have an imbalance. And that's what we've got now.
Speaker 2: Brett on the text in for quite a few different
Speaker 2: Breats have texted. So here's Brett number one. He says,
Speaker 2: where are the billions of dollars gone over the decades
Speaker 2: for Aboriginal communities? If you divided up what has been
Speaker 2: spent to each individual, it'll be multi millions. Bureaucracy choose
Speaker 2: up most of the money. Same with the NDS. No checks,
Speaker 2: no balances, just government money. Well it's not government money.
Speaker 2: Is tax pays money from Brett? Yeah, Well true, I
Speaker 2: mean the ndis they're now discovering Rohtz left, right and center.
Speaker 2: But you know, you build these behemoths unless you've got
Speaker 2: the requisite auditing in place, there will be a lot
Speaker 2: of people clipping the ticket and not delivering the service.
Speaker 2: Brett number two on the tech says, Michael, if I
Speaker 2: can just throw him two, Bobsworth. In regarding the housing crisis,
Speaker 2: unless we review our current immigration policy, we'll never have
Speaker 2: enough affordable housing in the country. That's echoed by many
Speaker 2: other people. Miriam says, in relation to where in Sydney
Speaker 2: being rezoned, the council looking after areas around Strathfield Station,
Speaker 2: particularly between the station and paramatter Oro, there is a
Speaker 2: lot going on there, that's true. I think that would
Speaker 2: be Is it Burwood Council? Is there Burwood Councilors? I
Speaker 2: think it is Burwood Council that would have that. There's
Speaker 2: certainly a lot of development there. Maybe it is Strathfield Roz.
Speaker 2: Thank you for your note, She says. Not only are
Speaker 2: our hospitals undergrades, strain with ramping and insufficient beds every day,
Speaker 2: but we're already unable to get through the traffic congestion
Speaker 2: to get to them. What would more congestion do to
Speaker 2: the area, was say twenty five thousand more high rise
Speaker 2: boxes squeezed in?
Speaker 3: Especially without any more hospitals, We've.
Speaker 2: Lost access to our services, lost the amenity of our communities,
Speaker 2: so that we can just have this big Australia that
Speaker 2: the average citizen does not want. True that's true. Now again,
Speaker 2: we've got to be rational. There are shortages in the economy,
Speaker 2: in the workforce for age care, childcare, a lot of
Speaker 2: these sort of sectors, and without migration, it's pretty obvious
Speaker 2: the average Australia is not going to fill those jobs.
Speaker 2: They don't pay well enough, the conditions aren't right, whatever.
Speaker 3: So that's just the way it is. Now.
Speaker 2: You can try to train your way domestically out of
Speaker 2: that problem and raise the wages and when, or you
Speaker 2: can just bring people in who are going to be
Speaker 2: willing to work for less and do the job. And
Speaker 2: it seems that the latter is where we've landed. So
Speaker 2: if we just shut the whole show down tomorrow, there
Speaker 2: would be a cascading and cataclysmic effect throughout the economy.
Speaker 2: But it's about getting the balance on the numbers right.
Speaker 2: And I think I'd be speaking for many people when
Speaker 2: I said I don't think we've we haven't recalibrated that
Speaker 2: meter effectively. All right, let's just go to Tasmania quickly.
Speaker 2: Here you know, budgets left, right and center everywhere. But
Speaker 2: it's a story all over Australia. We're living beyond our means.
Speaker 2: Tasmania's government. According to Matthew Denholm, who's the Appollisle expert
Speaker 2: at the OS, he said, the government will double state
Speaker 2: debt down there, double it while funding a new AFL stadium,
Speaker 2: an increase spending while running deficits for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 2: It's a liberal government, the minority, but liberal will allow
Speaker 2: net debt to further balloon from five point twenty six
Speaker 2: billion this financial year to ten point seven eight call
Speaker 2: it eleven billion by twenty eight twenty nine. Now, that
Speaker 2: doesn't sound like a lot of money, eleven billions to
Speaker 2: the federal government, like you or me losing a twenty
Speaker 2: cent coin down the couch. But you've got to remember
Speaker 2: that Tasmania's economy is tiny. It's tiny, right, so eleven
Speaker 2: billion dollars in net debt is a lot of debt
Speaker 2: for that small economy to service. Now, the budget, according
Speaker 2: to Matthew Denholm, allocates three hundred million dollars for a
Speaker 2: second power interconnector to Victoria, despite conceding in the budget
Speaker 2: that it may never eventuate. Well, even if it did,
Speaker 2: I mean, is there any guarantee Victoria will have surplus
Speaker 2: energy to send to Tasmania As we've discussed. I'd be
Speaker 2: surprised if they can keep their own life. It's on
Speaker 2: littleone anybody else's By twenty thirty five, an extra nine
Speaker 2: hundred and forty million dollars to address the state's failing
Speaker 2: health system. It's problem all over the country. But this
Speaker 2: is going to be the controversial one, and it has
Speaker 2: been for years. The new treasurer, his first budget includes
Speaker 2: six hundred and fifteen million dollars for us AFL Stadium. Now,
Speaker 2: the total cost of the stadium will be just shy
Speaker 2: of a billion. Now that's at the moment, so you
Speaker 2: can guarantee it we'll go to one point two one
Speaker 2: point three billion by the time it's done. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of money to spend putting seats around a paddock.
Speaker 2: It might be whiz bang state of the art, but
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, we've been through these discussions in.
Speaker 3: New South Wales before.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: The Allion Stadium is a fantastic facility, but it still
Speaker 2: cost taxpays about eight hundred million dollars or something.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of money, a lot of money.
Speaker 2: So you know, you can only spend the dollars once
Speaker 2: and I'm not convinced even though many of us enjoy
Speaker 2: that facility and it's an improvement on the old Sydney
Speaker 2: football stadium, that was the best way to allocate that
Speaker 2: eight hundred million or whatever it cost, is still I
Speaker 2: think an open debate in this state. But of course,
Speaker 2: the New South Wales economy is far bigger than the
Speaker 2: Tasmanian economy and to tip six hundred and fifteen million
Speaker 2: scarce Tasmanian economic dollars into a football stadium, to me
Speaker 2: seems insanity. But anyway, it's up to the Tasmanians. They
Speaker 2: can vote which way they like. Anyway, the Treasurer claimed
Speaker 2: that the budget down there off at a quote sensible
Speaker 2: pathway to surplus. Well mate, sorry, there must be something
Speaker 2: wrong with your apicus. There is nothing in the numbers
Speaker 2: that suggest Tasmania will be heading to surplus anytime soon.
Speaker 3: Just not there.
Speaker 2: It's not there, So they're kidding themselves, but they, like
Speaker 2: most of the rest of the country, living beyond their means.
Speaker 2: One three one eight seven three the open line number.
Speaker 3: G I there, John.
Speaker 4: God imight you took the words down of my map?
Speaker 4: There been those hill and I thought you might as
Speaker 4: well get as they say, straight from the Horse's Mouth.
Speaker 4: I've been here about thirty years, mate, in that area, yep,
Speaker 4: and they wanted to flog it for five billion, and
Speaker 4: they reckon that can put twenty five thousand homes on it? Mate,
Speaker 4: if they put twenty five on No expert, but I've
Speaker 4: spoken to a couple of mates and this and the
Speaker 4: building game they've been. If you put put two five thousand,
Speaker 4: five hundred homes on that.
Speaker 2: Right of ops, John, I think your lines dropped out, mate.
Speaker 2: We'll try to get you back just so we can
Speaker 2: finish it. Whether it's twenty five thousand home slash units
Speaker 2: or whether it's accommodation for twenty five thousand people. I
Speaker 2: just want to double check that, because obviously that's two
Speaker 2: very different figures. Twenty five thousand homes that accommodate fifty
Speaker 2: fifty five sixty thousand people. I think it might be
Speaker 2: twenty five thousand people, which would probably necessitate I don't know,
Speaker 2: eleven twelve thousand units something like that. I don't know,
Speaker 2: but I can guarantee you this, John, there'll be no
Speaker 2: free standing houses there. They'll all be units of one
Speaker 2: description or another. We'll see if we can get that
Speaker 2: line fixed. Thank you, mate, can I Richard, Hello.
Speaker 5: Michael, Look, waste of money. And I just want to
Speaker 5: draw Malcolm Davis from the Australian Strategic Policy Institute, public
Speaker 5: funded organization which has been around for decades, gives advice
Speaker 5: to governments of war persuasions about strategic but essentially they're
Speaker 5: about matter and in the defense force, Malcolm Davis is
Speaker 5: absolutely correct. The Prime Minister Albanez is absolutely incorrect and
Speaker 5: he's misleading Australians. He are hollowing out the defense defense
Speaker 5: budget for a whole range of places. And I'll give
Speaker 5: you two things. Before the action last year there was
Speaker 5: a review policy which they're still sitting on, on how
Speaker 5: much Sapless defense land they want to sell to fund
Speaker 5: not to fund defense, but to fund there. They're drunken
Speaker 5: saloh seventeen billion dollars for students whose for students who
Speaker 5: have been subsidized for thirteen years on the public education system.
Speaker 5: And then a pair of three or five what about
Speaker 5: the rest of the people. We're going to flood zone
Speaker 5: eight hundred kilometers up the coastline, and who's going to
Speaker 5: talk about diets to dams and other stuff to try
Speaker 5: and minimize that type of thing. But I want to
Speaker 5: come back to the defense. Malcolm Davis talked about the
Speaker 5: holing out of the AF of the ADF.
Speaker 4: I go further.
Speaker 5: If you read the late Senator Moland's book about danger
Speaker 5: on their doorstep, about the capacity industrially and commercially, we
Speaker 5: are about to commit one of the greatest administrative mal administration,
Speaker 5: I say, criminal decisions between the Men's government, Premier Men's
Speaker 5: John Graham and Paul Scully and Tims and others in
Speaker 5: the Attorney General in the sell off of Green Island
Speaker 5: that day. Why shouldn't this concerns you and every person
Speaker 5: here in Sydney because once that's brow on that shipping operation,
Speaker 5: this is this has been charted by the Men's that
Speaker 5: he'll have a look at it now because he didn't
Speaker 5: get Rose Bay, rose Hill, so he wants to put
Speaker 5: a whole lot of townhouses on there. Well, here's here
Speaker 5: it is for you people and for the politicians. I'm
Speaker 5: not the only one read the report. There's the didn't
Speaker 5: review on Thursday, page three, a picture of the shop.
Speaker 5: Everybody's opposed to it, the port tourism everybody.
Speaker 2: Well just on that one, Richard, I don't think, well
Speaker 2: put it this way I've looked at it. From what
Speaker 2: I understand, it isn't yet going ahead. I mean, there's
Speaker 2: there's talk about, yes, we could convert that to towers
Speaker 2: and houses and take the commerciality away.
Speaker 3: But I agree with you.
Speaker 2: If you got rid of that, you're hollowing out the
Speaker 2: industrial core of your city.
Speaker 3: Crazy.
Speaker 2: Now they's oh, you we can just move it down
Speaker 2: to Port Kembla or move it to Newcastle or something
Speaker 2: like that. We'll bring it all in on trucks and trains,
Speaker 2: and but I think that's playing toy soldiers. I think
Speaker 2: what we've got to do is have some industrial base
Speaker 2: in the city, and that includes your concrete and cement
Speaker 2: facilities and whatever that's already there. So the problem is,
Speaker 2: as you well appreciate, because we've spoken many many times Richard,
Speaker 2: as you know, we have this imbalance between the number
Speaker 2: of people wanting to live in Sydney and the ability
Speaker 2: to house them. And so you're trying to squeeze things
Speaker 2: in left, right and center. But at some point, at
Speaker 2: some point, someone in government's got to say, right, no
Speaker 2: more of that. We've got to keep some industrial work
Speaker 2: in the center of the city. We've got to diversify
Speaker 2: the suburbs and the industrial footprint of the city. You
Speaker 2: can't just have a big housing circle and then have
Speaker 2: everything on the fringe. It just won't work. Thank you
Speaker 2: for your call. As always, Richard, it is twenty one
Speaker 2: to one. Will take a break. We'll keep this conversation
Speaker 2: of planning going after the break with an expert in
Speaker 2: the field. All right, Well, now that the rose Hill
Speaker 2: proposal is dead, as we've been discussing, Crispin's and his
Speaker 2: government are going to have to find other ways to
Speaker 2: bring new housing into Sydney. That's going to be I
Speaker 2: think what they're measured on now they are elected with
Speaker 2: this push for more density across the city, something that
Speaker 2: many understand is required. But News Today suggests that a
Speaker 2: development at BLACKWALLLL Bay, just over the back here, the
Speaker 2: site of the old Sydney Fish Market as it will
Speaker 2: be very soon, could see even more apartments added. Now
Speaker 2: the sites already you marked for twelve hundred apartments, this
Speaker 2: as part of a mixed use precinct or something, but
Speaker 2: that could become fifteen hundred because of the spill on
Speaker 2: spill through pressure from the Rosehill No go, that's just
Speaker 2: one idea.
Speaker 3: There's also talk.
Speaker 2: About adding more at Sydney Olympic Park and elsewhere. But
Speaker 2: as I've been saying, are we putting in all the
Speaker 2: requisite planning around just ticking the target boxes for more apartments.
Speaker 2: You've got to be able to have the water pressure available,
Speaker 2: You've got to have the electricity available, and beyond that,
Speaker 2: you've got to have additional hospital beds, public school rooms
Speaker 2: available for the new students that are going to be
Speaker 2: moving into the area. You've got to have provision for parking.
Speaker 2: Even though they are closely aligned with public transport hubs,
Speaker 2: we know everyone's still going to have a car. This
Speaker 2: fantasy that people are only going to get around in
Speaker 2: metro trains and light rail, it's just that fantasy. It's
Speaker 2: not the real world. So you've got to have all
Speaker 2: of these things as part of the story. And a
Speaker 2: number of people that speak to me in this space say,
Speaker 2: we just don't have that whole story finalized. Well, I
Speaker 2: wanted to turn to an expert who studies this. Sebastian
Speaker 2: Fouch is a professor of urban planning and management at
Speaker 2: the Western Sydny Universities with me. Sebastian, thank you for
Speaker 2: your time.
Speaker 6: Hallo.
Speaker 3: Michael Now just on that issue.
Speaker 2: There's obviously enormous and it seems increasing pressure just to
Speaker 2: build apartments and try to deal with the imbalance between
Speaker 2: supply and demand in housing. But do we have the
Speaker 2: same urgency brewing below the surface to build all of
Speaker 2: the other things that I just described that are required
Speaker 2: to make life in those apartments practical.
Speaker 7: You mentioned transport, and I think that's a very good
Speaker 7: point to start when you look elsewhere, how do other
Speaker 7: cities manage this kind of increase and their density. So
Speaker 7: looking at density in Sydney, we have about when you
Speaker 7: take Greater Sydney about five hundred, give or take five
Speaker 7: hundred people per square kilometers. You go to Paris or
Speaker 7: London and you find that they have more than five
Speaker 7: thousand per square kilometer, So there is a huge difference.
Speaker 7: We're still very much flat and wide in Sydney and
Speaker 7: compared to that in the inner Sydney area we have
Speaker 7: twenty two train stations and you go to Paris or London.
Speaker 7: Paris has about two hundred and London has about ninety.
Speaker 7: Massive difference. That means people get around in a very
Speaker 7: different fashion. And yes, we have a great car dependency.
Speaker 7: The way that we Plan Sydney so far where we
Speaker 7: just added, you know, the new suburbs in the high
Speaker 7: growth areas to the north and south. In Western Sydney,
Speaker 7: we now have all these people commuting because they're all
Speaker 7: car dependent, no transport there, and that means we lose
Speaker 7: about six billion, six point one billion dollars every year
Speaker 7: because people are sitting in their cars on average for
Speaker 7: a seventy minute commute. It's just crazy.
Speaker 6: To do it.
Speaker 2: That just to a drop, that's six point one billion.
Speaker 2: That's the financial equivalent of the lost productivity.
Speaker 6: Is it? Yes?
Speaker 7: Yes? And then on top of that in Western Sydney,
Speaker 7: we recently had a report coming out that calculated how
Speaker 7: much money we're losing because of the extreme heat in
Speaker 7: Western Sydney. Part of what we're studying, and currently we're
Speaker 7: losing one point four billion dollars every year because of
Speaker 7: extreme heat in Western Sydney, projected to be more than
Speaker 7: six billion dollars by twenty seventy. So we are not
Speaker 7: only putting people in an area where they have long
Speaker 7: commutes where we lose a lot of money, but also
Speaker 7: in an area where because of the climate impact, we're
Speaker 7: having particularly productivity and health costs that are going skyrocket.
Speaker 7: We're losing again. And this is of course all funding.
Speaker 7: If you think of a city scale, this is funding
Speaker 7: that is not available to build new hospitals and new schools,
Speaker 7: and it's not a to build new roles or look
Speaker 7: after our row network and build new transport options. It's
Speaker 7: really that kind of scare that we need to look
Speaker 7: at Sydney.
Speaker 2: Okay, Now, the transport very important, as you've outlined, and
Speaker 2: that the equivalence with London and Paris is is certainly
Speaker 2: very telling. But equally Paris in London don't tend to
Speaker 2: have a lot of people living on cordaga blocks. We do,
Speaker 2: and that's one of the things that endears people to
Speaker 2: the lifestyle of Sydney. I mean, if you want to
Speaker 2: go and live in a flat, well, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of cities around the work and live in a flat,
Speaker 2: but this is one of those great global cities where
Speaker 2: you can still have a block of land and have
Speaker 2: a small little lauchard out in the back and the
Speaker 2: kids can run around and kick a ball. And maybe
Speaker 2: that's why Australians punch above our weight in sport and all.
Speaker 2: I mean there are great health benefits to that So
Speaker 2: I guess what I'm asking is is it possible to
Speaker 2: have your cake and eat it too?
Speaker 7: Yes, that's a very very good question. And what's the
Speaker 7: silver bullet to solve that. I guess you have on
Speaker 7: your program talked already about the Nimby's and the indies, right,
Speaker 7: so not in my backyard, yees, in my backyard all
Speaker 7: of that. It's really difficult because you have a local
Speaker 7: affiliation with where you live, and if you live in
Speaker 7: an area that has quarter acre blocks, it's probably also
Speaker 7: a very green area. You go out to western Sydney,
Speaker 7: your average lot size is now down from eleven hundred
Speaker 7: square meters or one thousand square meters for your quarter
Speaker 7: acre block, down to three hundred and fifty. So there's
Speaker 7: already this massive change that many many people don't even
Speaker 7: have that luxury anymore. We forget that, but for your
Speaker 7: quarter acre block. The new South Wales government and our
Speaker 7: Planning Minister Scully has released about December twenty twenty three
Speaker 7: new regulation that allows you now to subdivide residential blocks
Speaker 7: larger than four hundred and fifty square meters. So this
Speaker 7: is now happening because these are the blocks where you
Speaker 7: have a nice big garden, and now you can chop
Speaker 7: off the garden. Of course, the first thing that will
Speaker 7: go are the trees, so we will we will very
Speaker 7: much struggle to keep up with tree canopy cover that
Speaker 7: keeps us cool and green and nice. In a city
Speaker 7: that starts to densify where we only look at division,
Speaker 7: second house, third house on residential blocks, we really need
Speaker 7: to look at smart density, and that means vertical density.
Speaker 2: There's no way, there's no way around it. You're quite right,
Speaker 2: there's no way around it. But it's got to be
Speaker 2: done right. And so near me there's a proposal to
Speaker 2: put all these towers up where the average house is
Speaker 2: probably one and a half stories high. As far as
Speaker 2: the eye can see, they'll stick out like for now,
Speaker 2: but you know, in fifty years time the whole area
Speaker 2: could look like Shanghai. So who knows, right, but for
Speaker 2: now they'll look really strange. But as far as I'm aware,
Speaker 2: in the local mayors tells me that there's there's really
Speaker 2: no additional plans for additional schools or hospital beds or
Speaker 2: open spaces.
Speaker 3: They just want to put the towers up.
Speaker 7: That's where it becomes really important to look at the
Speaker 7: amenity that you provide, want to densify. There's a lot
Speaker 7: of work that the Committee for Sydney has put forward
Speaker 7: since twenty sixteen actually, so it's not a new thing,
Speaker 7: but they have talked about smart density or density that works,
Speaker 7: where you do have your eye at the beginning, not
Speaker 7: only at the towers, but at everything else that you
Speaker 7: need to provide as public space, as services and amenities.
Speaker 3: But are we doing that?
Speaker 2: I guess that's the point of this conversation from your expertise.
Speaker 3: Are we doing that?
Speaker 7: No, at the moment, I can't see that we're doing
Speaker 7: it properly. The new metro is great, we need five
Speaker 7: new metros to make this work really well. The densification
Speaker 7: that you see the TOD Transport Oriented Development released from
Speaker 7: the Men's government, where we have eight hubs where run
Speaker 7: in your stations in the radius of twelve hundred meters
Speaker 7: you will have identification. There are proposals attached to that
Speaker 7: that will give you one new park, or they give
Speaker 7: you additional shopping opportunities. But the really important public infrastructure,
Speaker 7: the bigger library, the additional hospital, or new childcare centers
Speaker 7: are not part of these plans, at least not for
Speaker 7: my visibility that the problem that it's really the problem.
Speaker 6: That's right.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you confirmed that because anecdotally that's what I've
Speaker 2: been told. We'll keep the conversation going at another time.
Speaker 2: It's not going anywhere, as I'm sure you're quite familiar with, Sebastian.
Speaker 3: Thank you for your insight. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Thank you well the best, Professor Sebastian Fouch there from
Speaker 2: the Western Sydney University.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for your company.
Speaker 2: You're so much feedback pouring in, Diane says Can Barns
Speaker 2: in the New suburbs at a love four hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty square meters blocks, we're down to under three hundred
Speaker 2: only trees on site of the small amounts on the
Speaker 2: government ground. That's from Diane. Paul says in the Padstow area,
Speaker 2: the oldest structures of the train station in the public school.
Speaker 2: We've got to build the infrastructure before we build the houses. Now,
Speaker 2: by the way, have a listen out when you hear
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Speaker 1: News is next now onto GB and Network stations, back
Speaker 1: to afternoons with Michael McLaren.
Speaker 2: Thank you, let's get into our number two. Nice your
Speaker 2: company on this beautiful Friday. Actually this is turning out
Speaker 2: second last day of May one three one eight seven three.
Speaker 3: The open line number.
Speaker 2: Just at the Bradfield recount, Giselle Capterian three votes in front.
Speaker 2: I think at one point yesterday she had a rather
Speaker 2: slender margin of one. So she's improved that significantly to
Speaker 2: three today at this point. But it's going to be very,
Speaker 2: very tight all the way through. Now, Look, I will
Speaker 2: profess the following topic. I have no expertise in whatsoever,
Speaker 2: but the team here suggested I raise this with you,
Speaker 2: not because you may have expertise, but we will branch
Speaker 2: you will understand what I'm saying this second. We will
Speaker 2: branch this out into a broader talk topic about dating
Speaker 2: and heights. But there's a story here that says that Tinder,
Speaker 2: which helped popularize a modern dating culture that puts looks first.
Speaker 2: So the story says, now the app is trying out
Speaker 2: a new way to capitalize on This is a part
Speaker 2: of a test select Tender Gold and Tender Platinum subscribers.
Speaker 2: There's such a thing Tender Gold, and then there is
Speaker 2: and then Tinder Platinum. It sounds like a frequent flyer scheme.
Speaker 2: Frequent something scame. Anyway, they'll be able to set a
Speaker 2: preferred height range for matches that they receive in the app.
Speaker 2: This is according to something called tech Crunch. The feature
Speaker 2: was first spotted by a Reddit user what Isn't who
Speaker 2: noticed that the option in the app's discovery settings was there. Okay,
Speaker 2: so the point of this is apparently tender instead of
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know that you can filter I
Speaker 2: suppose this, or that you like this. You don't like that,
Speaker 2: you know. But now there's a thing, apparently for the
Speaker 2: Golden Platinum subscribers, where they can put in a preferred
Speaker 2: height range. Was this something that ever sort of bothered you?
Speaker 2: I think I think taller women. I think taller women
Speaker 2: maybe this is something for them. I don't think, you know,
Speaker 2: I think, you know, I don't know if the taller
Speaker 2: ladies like having shorter men.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Is that I just get that feeling.
Speaker 2: You hear that anecdotally that if the other woman, say,
Speaker 2: six foot, maybe they're not instantly drawn to a man
Speaker 2: that's five foot one. I don't know's that's what you hear.
Speaker 2: I don't think it matters so much for the men,
Speaker 2: because on average, the man is taller than the woman, right,
Speaker 2: But anyway, particularly for the ladies listening, if you're a
Speaker 2: tall lady. Was this something when you were on the
Speaker 2: on the dating scene? Is this something that was of
Speaker 2: concern to you that the bloke might be too short?
Speaker 2: Or would that just be being too picky? One three, one, eight,
Speaker 2: seven to three. Anyway, the story goes on. I don't
Speaker 2: think we need all of the details, but there you go.
Speaker 2: Now for those considering a little bit of a European
Speaker 2: summer holiday and they might want to taken the joys Turkey,
Speaker 2: be warned when the plane lands at anchor or Istanbul,
Speaker 2: don't get out of your seat before the seat belt
Speaker 2: light goes off, because if you do, you may be
Speaker 2: financially penalized. Reporting the ap suggesting the passengers on flights
Speaker 2: to Turkey who unbuckle their seat belts, enter an aisle
Speaker 2: or open those overhead compartments before the plane has stopped
Speaker 2: taxing upon arrival eligible for fines under new regulations issued
Speaker 2: by the country's Civil Aviation Authority. Now, under the updated rules,
Speaker 2: commercial airlines operating flights in Turkey are required to revise
Speaker 2: their standard in flight announcements, telling passengers to remain seated
Speaker 2: with seat belts fastened until the aircraft has reached a
Speaker 2: gate or other final stopping point. Now this, I've got
Speaker 2: to say, this is one that annoys me. You know,
Speaker 2: flying occasionally you do a long haul flight, the first
Speaker 2: thing you do want is you want to get up,
Speaker 2: You want to get out of the tube, or I
Speaker 2: just want to get out of there, get to the tar,
Speaker 2: make getting the tax, you can get to your destination.
Speaker 3: You know you've had enough.
Speaker 2: You've been in the air confined for the better part
Speaker 2: of probably if you're flying to Europe in a plane itself,
Speaker 2: for probably twenty one hours, and then you've got the
Speaker 2: stop over and all, you've had enough. But why is
Speaker 2: it that the moment, the moment the plane has hit
Speaker 2: that sort of that slow roll as it were, into
Speaker 2: the into the terminal area, there's always a phalanx of
Speaker 2: people that get up straight away and jump up and
Speaker 2: start opening up the lot. Why do they do it? Like,
Speaker 2: what's the rush? The point is, you're not going to
Speaker 2: get out the door any faster than anybody else. And
Speaker 2: particularly in an economy, what's the rush? First class goes first,
Speaker 2: then business class goes, and then premium economy goes your last.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if you've got your bag on you
Speaker 2: or not your last and yet they do it.
Speaker 3: Why, Like there's some strange psychology there. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I can't quite work it out.
Speaker 2: If you want to study human beings, the best place
Speaker 2: to do it to study the weird and the one
Speaker 2: for is it an airport. I mean, if you go
Speaker 2: to an airport, you do it. Send me frequently people
Speaker 2: watch because it's a really interesting.
Speaker 3: Thing to do.
Speaker 2: You know, you see the inner workings of the human
Speaker 2: brain on display frequently at an airport check in. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's the psychology of how do I get the upgrade?
Speaker 3: How do I.
Speaker 2: Make myself more important to this airline than the porschemuck
Speaker 2: behind me in the queue, let alone the other seventy
Speaker 2: five people waiting to get their ticket. So, you know,
Speaker 2: some people put on a collared shirt. Doesn't work, apparently.
Speaker 2: Some people say I've got a child, and you know
Speaker 2: a lot of people have children. That's not kidding.
Speaker 3: You just watch what goes on.
Speaker 2: And then as soon as people actually get on the
Speaker 2: plane and they've got the allocated seat in the rest
Speaker 2: of it, you know there will be at least half
Speaker 2: a dozen on a big on a big A three eight,
Speaker 2: or at least half a doesn't that try it on?
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: Oh look I'm not sure I like this seat. I
Speaker 2: don't think it suits me. Could you bump me up
Speaker 2: to the business seat?
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 9: No, they're not going to do it, you.
Speaker 2: Know, And there's there's always people. I've got a reason
Speaker 2: I'm more important than this. But you just watch people
Speaker 2: at an airport. It's fascinating how everybody thinks they're an earl,
Speaker 2: you know, or a lord.
Speaker 3: It's quite quite interesting if you do it.
Speaker 2: But back to Turkey, I don't know how they're going
Speaker 2: to enforce this because let's say some people get up
Speaker 2: and they start taking their bags out, and the announcement's
Speaker 2: been said, Look you've got to stay put until the
Speaker 2: light goes off.
Speaker 3: And I mean, what are they going to do?
Speaker 2: Have some Turkish authority come on and issue them a fine?
Speaker 3: And I mean maybe maybe it's more a threat.
Speaker 2: Than a follow through, but it'll be interesting to see
Speaker 2: if it catches on, because there are safety issues involved
Speaker 2: at the end of the day. But maybe you can
Speaker 2: answer this question for me one three one eight seven
Speaker 2: three when when the plane starts the sort of it's
Speaker 2: pulled up at the at the at the terminal, but
Speaker 2: the lights still on. The seat belt light is still
Speaker 2: activated as soon as the plane stops. Why to half
Speaker 2: a dozen at least jump up straight away and grab
Speaker 2: the bag.
Speaker 3: Why do they do it?
Speaker 2: I mean, all they're doing is going to nurse their
Speaker 2: bag for a long time on their lap. I don't
Speaker 2: understand that psychology. One three, one eight seven three the
Speaker 2: open line number. It's a quarter past one. Oh, you
Speaker 2: just never know who's listening. Ross out there has just said,
Speaker 2: oh my goodness, you just covered all my major gripes
Speaker 2: in one hit housing population. Why people have to stand
Speaker 2: up and cue to get out as soon as a
Speaker 2: plane lands. Now, if you can just cover Chris Bowen
Speaker 2: being incompetent in his role, that'd be the trifecta. Hey, Ross,
Speaker 2: you might be in lucky a little later on.
Speaker 3: You just stay listening.
Speaker 2: Stayed listening, by the way, also, because as soon as
Speaker 2: you hear that little bit of Elton John music onto
Speaker 2: the open line, you go one three, one eight seven
Speaker 2: three designated caller. You'll be the fifth into the bottle
Speaker 2: and we'll draw that wonderful Wine Festival prize in the
Speaker 2: final hour Today, Michael suggests the reason people jump up
Speaker 2: on the planes as early as to give radio host
Speaker 2: something to discuss.
Speaker 3: Court. I think it's probably valid point.
Speaker 2: Mind you, I'm not quite as bad as Mark Lever,
Speaker 2: who just too as you would have heard earlier today
Speaker 2: throughout the Ultimate the ultimate talk topic that an overnight
Speaker 2: announcer would do on a very very slow winter's morning
Speaker 2: at two thirty in the morning, and he said, what's
Speaker 2: your favorite biscuit? I don't even know if I went
Speaker 2: there on eleven years of overnights, just saying.
Speaker 3: Marie says, my hubby's a pilot.
Speaker 2: There's much maneuvering to get to the gate, and just
Speaker 2: because the plane stops, it may not be in the
Speaker 2: correct gate spot and may require another half or so
Speaker 2: meter movement forward. Keep your seat belt sign on until
Speaker 2: it's turned off. If you're standing, you may be propelled
Speaker 2: forward or back, injuring yourself. In others, you won't get
Speaker 2: out of the plane any quicker true never a true word,
Speaker 2: said Marie.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Jen says there's a previous flight attendant. Emergencies can still
Speaker 2: happen in the plane once we've stopped. They should stay seated.
Speaker 2: Very important as if we need to get out on
Speaker 2: a hurry and there are bags everywhere there is.
Speaker 3: Is a massive issue. So true.
Speaker 2: Okay, Now to the ladies and the height and the
Speaker 2: dating the big issue of the day. Kate on the text,
Speaker 2: and Kate, I feel for you here, but there's not
Speaker 2: much I can do about it, she says. I'm a
Speaker 2: tall lady, and when I was looking to date, all
Speaker 2: the tall guys were already hooked up. Short ladies should
Speaker 2: be with short men as well. Otherwise the tall lady
Speaker 2: misses out and the short man misses being partnered. I
Speaker 2: hate seeing that quote unquote. I hate to see tall
Speaker 2: men with short ladies from Kate. Okay, As I said,
Speaker 2: in an ideal world, you know, so like Ordless Huxley
Speaker 2: can create it for us, that would happen, Kate. But
Speaker 2: the problem, I don't know. Maybe maybe the short ladies
Speaker 2: had great personalities and the tall guys just were after that.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I can't answer that for you, but I understand your
Speaker 2: point and any other tall ladies out there, like Kate
Speaker 2: feeling a little myth that the guys are all taken
Speaker 2: and so you were left with the short fellas or
Speaker 2: you missed out? Is that an issue? One three, one
Speaker 2: eight seven to three. Now a lot of other texts
Speaker 2: coming through re the airlines. Patrick says, it's a very
Speaker 2: easy way to make yourself look more important with an airline.
Speaker 2: You just give them a very great deal more money. True,
Speaker 2: they'll look after you, so I'm told. Glenn says the
Speaker 2: two best psychologists in the world are an aeroplane and
Speaker 2: a motor vehicle, as they turn what appear to be
Speaker 2: perfectly normal human beings into absolute crazy nut chops. It's true,
Speaker 2: at the moment a human gets in a motor vehicle
Speaker 2: orques up to get on the flight, they become someone different.
Speaker 3: We all do, if we're being honest. We all do.
Speaker 2: But there is something odd about the psychology of an
Speaker 2: airport slash aeroplane, This self important streak that a lot
Speaker 2: of us didn't know. We had sort of ooze us out,
Speaker 2: and we think, all of a sudden, we know where
Speaker 2: Baron de rothschild or something, or we should be on
Speaker 2: that seat, or we shouldn't have to sit near that
Speaker 2: crying kid, or we should get this sort of you know,
Speaker 2: it's odd, And then we get off at the other end,
Speaker 2: do we get an attacks in we're all just equally again,
Speaker 2: We go to our two star hotel. You know, it's
Speaker 2: a really really strange thing. So keep the feedback coming
Speaker 2: zero four six zero eight seven three eight seven three.
Speaker 2: Of course you can send me an email this all
Speaker 2: today two GB dot com click on the feedback icon.
Speaker 2: Michael says, wasn't there a Seinfeld episode where George was
Speaker 2: dating a taller woman?
Speaker 3: I think there was. I think you're quite right about that.
Speaker 2: Now to the football, Steve, our Cowboys fanatic from Cans, says,
Speaker 2: tomorrow Tigers v. Cowboys. Which one of us will be
Speaker 2: happy on Monday? Or will the Cowboys have another draw
Speaker 2: just like against the Panthers. D you to select drawer
Speaker 2: as your tip of the week. Well, look, I've got
Speaker 2: to tell you, Steve, that Chuck does my tips, as
Speaker 2: you know, and he was very very successful last week,
Speaker 2: very consistent in the sense that he got all of
Speaker 2: them wrong. So this week he's tipped the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: Now I don't know if I don't know if.
Speaker 2: He's going to have a breakout we can get if
Speaker 2: you're right. I don't know, but I suspect he might
Speaker 2: be right. And the Tigers have issues Lockie Galvin and
Speaker 2: that's going to muck around with them playing up in
Speaker 2: North Queensland. It'd be a pretty special win if they
Speaker 2: can pull it off. I suspect to answer your question, Steve,
Speaker 2: you're going to be happy now.
Speaker 3: Matthew.
Speaker 2: Matthew, Matthew, what can we do for Matthew? He simply says,
Speaker 2: I can't get tall or short.
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Speaker 2: As soon as you start to what would we say
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Speaker 2: the magic of the open Marino scarf comes true. One
Speaker 2: three one eight seven three the open line number. Now,
Speaker 2: this one comes a great surprise. New ABS dart are
Speaker 2: out confirming that the federal government's failure on housing is real.
Speaker 2: New housing approvals have slipped further behind the National Housing
Speaker 2: Accord targets. The IPA have crunched the numbers. As they
Speaker 2: say here, the Accord has failed to deliver the level
Speaker 2: of new houses promised for the tenth consecutive month. Now
Speaker 2: the ABS numbers today and there for the approval data
Speaker 2: to April twenty twenty five revealed that just fourteen thousand,
Speaker 2: six hundred and thirty three new dwellings were approved. Approvals
Speaker 2: were granted in April. That's a six percent decline from
Speaker 2: the previous month. Dwelling approvals in April were five thousand,
Speaker 2: three hundred and sixty seven units, twenty seven percent below
Speaker 2: the government's monthly minimum delivery target under the Accord. Now
Speaker 2: some would say, oh, there's still time, but time's running out.
Speaker 2: And with every month that you're well below the target
Speaker 2: of the accord, You've obviously got to make it up
Speaker 2: in the next month or subsequent months. It gets harder
Speaker 2: and harder. Now, the culative shortfall, I guess this is
Speaker 2: the key metric. The cumulative shortfall since the beginning of
Speaker 2: the accord in July twenty four is now forty five thousand,
Speaker 2: seven hundred and eleven. In other words, two rose Hill developments. Right,
Speaker 2: that's to date and counting. Now, if the later shortfall
Speaker 2: is replicated and the remaining two months of June twenty five,
Speaker 2: the National Housing Accord will have missed its target by
Speaker 2: more than fifty five thousand homes in just its first year.
Speaker 2: Now that's a problem, okay. And so look, some might say,
Speaker 2: I suppose a charitable person, So well, yeah, look, we
Speaker 2: don't get the million or one point two million or
Speaker 2: whatever the target one point three I think it is
Speaker 2: the target. But let's say we get eight hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty thousand. Well that's better than a poke in the eye.
Speaker 2: Well okay, but if your immigration numbers and your population
Speaker 2: growth statistics are metrics against these outcomes, then you can
Speaker 2: see what the problem's going to be. So well done
Speaker 2: to the IPA for pointing at all of that so
Speaker 2: clearly for us. But equally this is a big, big
Speaker 2: problem and it's only getting worse one three, one eight
Speaker 2: seveny three of course, now I understand this from New
Speaker 2: South Wales Police. They're appealing for public assistance to locate
Speaker 2: a man missing from Sydney's Inner East. His name is
Speaker 2: Graham len Age seventy five. He was last seen at
Speaker 2: Central train Station at about ten to twelve that's eleven
Speaker 2: fifty am on Sunday, May twenty five. Now, when he
Speaker 2: couldn't be contacted or located, officers attached to Sydney City
Speaker 2: Police Area Command would notify it. They commenced inquiries into
Speaker 2: Graham's whereabouts. Police to hold concerns for his welfare. He's
Speaker 2: described as being of Caucasian appearance, about one hundred and
Speaker 2: seventy five to one hundred and eighty five centimeters tall,
Speaker 2: large build, gray hair, and he was last seen wearing
Speaker 2: a gray T shirt, green zip jacket, black pants and
Speaker 2: a gray bucket hat. He was last seen carrying two
Speaker 2: Duffel bags and a backpack. Now he's known to frequent
Speaker 2: the Waterloo and Central areas, so anyone with information is
Speaker 2: urged to contact Sidney City Police, or of course there
Speaker 2: is crime Stoppers one eight hundred, Triple three, Triple zero,
Speaker 2: one eight hundred, triple three, triple zero. They got a
Speaker 2: lot of feedback coming through, but I might have to
Speaker 2: preread some of this because it's about dating and all
Speaker 2: of that. Will just be a little careful. It is
Speaker 2: a family program, after all. We'll take a break. It's
Speaker 2: twenty seven past one.
Speaker 3: All right, after the newsroom, we go, Iramar good after that,
Speaker 3: good afternoon.
Speaker 10: Michael, a Bonnie Rigg Heights woman, has likely saved her
Speaker 10: husband's life, waking him up as a fire broke out
Speaker 10: in their home. The couple had disconnected their smoke of arms.
Speaker 10: Pauline Hansen says she's elated with One Nation's performance in
Speaker 10: the federal election, as the party doubles its representation in
Speaker 10: the Senate from two to four seats. A sixteen year
Speaker 10: old boy's been charged over the discovery of a kill
Speaker 10: car in Sydney's West. It was Task Force Falcons first fined.
Speaker 10: And lollymaker Haribo has recalled packets of Happy Colar Fizz
Speaker 10: in the Netherlands after cannabis traces were found in some
Speaker 10: of them. In Sport, the New York Knicks have beaten
Speaker 10: the Paces one hundred and eleven to ninety four in
Speaker 10: the NBA, cutting Indiana's lead to three to two in
Speaker 10: the Eastern Conference finals. The series winner will play the
Speaker 10: Oklahoma City Thunder in the finals. And there'll be more
Speaker 10: news at two o'clock on afternoons.
Speaker 3: OH weather updates.
Speaker 11: We'll be here to help in unexpected weather. Nurmain Insurance
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Speaker 2: Okay, partly cloudy in twenty for Sydney today eighteen for
Speaker 2: Terry Hills nineteen at PARAMOUNTA twenty everywhere else including Campbelltown
Speaker 2: and Bondi tomorrow. Partly cloudy in twenty and for something
Speaker 2: a little different on Sunday twenty, but mostly sunny Candra today,
Speaker 2: sunny in eighteen. Tugernong's the same. Partly cloudy tomorrow top
Speaker 2: of sixteen up to about seventeen on Sunday they reckon
Speaker 2: the morning frost in the Capitol, but the cloud will
Speaker 2: clear after that. Lethgo good day through two LT fifteen
Speaker 2: the top for you today and mostly sunny. Same at Orange,
Speaker 2: although I think it's fully sunny in Orange actually eighteen
Speaker 2: and a bitter sun and a bit of cloud at
Speaker 2: Mudgi today bath are seventeen thirteen for Katomba, but sunny
Speaker 2: and springwood partly cloudy. Top of nineteen tomorrow for Lithgo
Speaker 2: fifteen the max reasonable minimum positive for are cloud clearing
Speaker 2: and for the last day of autumn as it will be,
Speaker 2: that's tomorrow Sunday, the first day of winter officially June one.
Speaker 2: Some sun out for Lithgow top sixteen morning frost. A
Speaker 2: lot of text messages still coming through. No name on
Speaker 2: this one, but says I'm six foot six, my wife's
Speaker 2: five to two. She only married me to get things
Speaker 2: off the top shelf. Whatever works, Bruce says. Read the airports,
Speaker 2: I just wait for everyone to get off first, then
Speaker 2: I just follow them. The good part is that if
Speaker 2: I'm not familiar with the airport, I just followed the crowd.
Speaker 2: It's a win win. You're a logical man, Bruce Sharon says,
Speaker 2: flight to remember. On my flight from Athens to Cairo,
Speaker 2: the passengers are almost all Egyptian. When the captain announced
Speaker 2: we were starting our descent, every Egyptian got to their
Speaker 2: feet to retrieve the bags.
Speaker 3: They didn't even.
Speaker 2: Have to go far because most of the luggage were
Speaker 2: stacked in the aisle. They didn't check in the luggage.
Speaker 3: You see.
Speaker 2: The hostess couldn't even serve a coffee to some of
Speaker 2: the seats. She said she couldn't get the trolley down
Speaker 2: the aisle. A flight to remember, says Sharon Gene on
Speaker 2: the developments things. She says, only plan is to destroy
Speaker 2: the state. Rose Hill can still build ten thousand houses
Speaker 2: next to the course. What about Rose Bay? Sixteen beautiful
Speaker 2: houses about to be knocked down. The owners all be
Speaker 2: getting a stack. The developers will get rich. This is
Speaker 2: from Rick, he says. In regard to standing up early
Speaker 2: to get your bag out of the overhead locker on
Speaker 2: a plane, he says, I love it. How when you
Speaker 2: go to the carousel, those very same clowns are the
Speaker 2: ones waiting for their checked in luggage.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they rush.
Speaker 2: Everywhere with these people, and yet they don't get out
Speaker 2: before you.
Speaker 3: I just anyway, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's you know, when you fly economy and
Speaker 2: you as most of us do, and you just watch
Speaker 2: all of this from an anthropological point of view. I know,
Speaker 2: I feel like David Attenburg watching like the Great Migration.
Speaker 2: It just it's a bizarre, absurd Yeah, don't they understand
Speaker 2: the people that pay twenty five thousand dollars for a ticket,
Speaker 2: who are sitting up there near the captain, their bag
Speaker 2: comes out first at the carousel as well, you know, like,
Speaker 2: don't run. It doesn't matter how quickly you get there.
Speaker 2: It's not a game of British Bulldog or something. You know,
Speaker 2: it's all worked out based off how much you paid
Speaker 2: for your ticket. Anyway, maybe one day the message will
Speaker 2: get through again, maybe it won't, and if it doesn't,
Speaker 2: we can always just enjoy watching it. Oh okay, well
Speaker 2: there you go. That's the cuter call. I need call
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Speaker 11: The Real Estate Show thanks to Domain, Australia's trusted property marketplace.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, let's do this.
Speaker 2: We do it every Friday at about this time, the Real
Speaker 2: Estate Show with our friends at Domain and the wonderful
Speaker 2: Alie Stultz's all the numbers for us, as she does
Speaker 2: all she does all week, just crunch numbers for us.
Speaker 12: Hello Alice, good after noon, Mark, Or what an entertaining
Speaker 12: show you've had on today?
Speaker 13: You're covering all my favorite topics.
Speaker 2: Well, tall tall women dating short men and cheople at
Speaker 2: airport kills.
Speaker 12: Well, I confess to marrying a tall man and it
Speaker 12: does very much come in hand. You've got that call
Speaker 12: a set about reaching for things, and I love that
Speaker 12: idea of David Ashenbarrow doing a bit of a commentary
Speaker 12: about people getting on and off planes.
Speaker 13: It is fascinating, isn't it herd mentality.
Speaker 2: It is, the Only problem is there'd be no sort
Speaker 2: of sense of evolution having occurred, and that would miss
Speaker 2: the general thrust of David's pieces. Now, of course we
Speaker 2: normally value one or two people's properties, not this week,
Speaker 2: but got a lot of other stuff to get through.
Speaker 3: But if you do want a property valued, get in touch.
Speaker 2: Or there's a beautiful thing on the website that the
Speaker 2: team of design just fill it all out there, will
Speaker 2: send it off to domain and Bob's your uncle, or
Speaker 2: Alice as your ARTI or whatever you want to say.
Speaker 2: We'll do that next week. Now let's start as we
Speaker 2: always do, Alice with the auction results, because we had
Speaker 2: a stonking number in Sydney, didn't we It.
Speaker 12: Was a huge number last weekend Michael, nine hundred and
Speaker 12: ninety two options took place and the clearance for it
Speaker 12: came in at seventy percent. Now remember that was just
Speaker 12: after the RBA announced that decline an interest rates. So
Speaker 12: we're kind of watching what the market would do, and
Speaker 12: I've got to sell lot of the auctions be covered.
Speaker 13: You could feel a bit more, I guess, a bit
Speaker 13: more of a pep in the step from buyers. I
Speaker 13: think to.
Speaker 12: Push that little bit harder, which I'm not surprised that,
Speaker 12: but it's just interesting watching it.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 12: Tomorrow we've got another big day in city. Nine hundred
Speaker 12: and sixty five houses going under the hammer, so pretty
Speaker 12: decent conditions and I dare said it could'll be the
Speaker 12: last hurrah before things before things wind back a little
Speaker 12: bit throughout the winter months ahead.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I don't know, just weather matter. Tomorrow it's
Speaker 2: mostly sunny. I think top of twenty nice, nice sort
Speaker 2: of last day for autumn. That helpside, imagine, rather than
Speaker 2: having thunderstorms on.
Speaker 12: The day it does. I think it does help because
Speaker 12: all of a sudden you look at these houses and
Speaker 12: they're sparkling and beautiful and sun filled and dappled, you know, dappled.
Speaker 13: Light over the gardens.
Speaker 12: And I think all that goes along while I'm letting
Speaker 12: people sort of get carried away a bit. Having said that,
Speaker 12: I have seen and myself done it, stood through torrential
Speaker 12: rain in auctions and watch bidding take place, because of
Speaker 12: course we're not talking about, you know, buying a leader
Speaker 12: of milk or not. This is the high stakes here,
Speaker 12: so people will do what it takes. And I think
Speaker 12: we're a hearty lot. But I think the sunshine does
Speaker 12: help us make the house look a bit more sparkly.
Speaker 2: That's how you want to show it. Okay, Now, the
Speaker 2: sustainability in property of report and the team of domain
Speaker 2: do this. I think every year, if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 2: you've released it the Sustainability in Property Report. Firstly, just
Speaker 2: I mean this word sustainability is bounced around like it's
Speaker 2: going out of fashion these days, right, So what's the
Speaker 2: report about? Just give us the background first.
Speaker 12: Yeah, So basically it is banded around a lot, that
Speaker 12: word sustainability, Michael. But what we've been looking at here
Speaker 12: is how many features that are sustainable or energy efficient
Speaker 12: pop up when people are selling their houses, and do
Speaker 12: these houses sell for more that houses that don't have
Speaker 12: these features? Now, what I'm talking about things like solar panel,
Speaker 12: double glazed windows, northern orientation features like that was smart
Speaker 12: energy efficient housing.
Speaker 13: And what we've they've.
Speaker 12: Done is they've crunched the data to just see how
Speaker 12: much those listings rise to the surface in comparison to
Speaker 12: properties that don't have those features to them.
Speaker 3: That's interesting.
Speaker 2: The double glazed windows. You know, that's my wife being European.
Speaker 2: That stock standard over there, because you know, they tend
Speaker 2: to build I think a little more sensibly and practically
Speaker 2: for the variability of conditions than we have traditionally done here.
Speaker 2: But one of the first things we did when we
Speaker 2: bought our little cottage was take all the old timber
Speaker 2: windows out, put the double glazed uPVC windows in wasn't cheap,
Speaker 2: but it's made an enormous difference inside. Doesn't matter if
Speaker 2: it's the heat of summer or the cold of winter.
Speaker 2: You do get a more averaged temperature divergence inside the house.
Speaker 2: What means you can obviously your power bill can come
Speaker 2: down a bit with the heating and all that.
Speaker 12: Right, I have to say, for my money, it's probably
Speaker 12: one of my favorite features if I was going to
Speaker 12: put into something, because I think it makes such a
Speaker 12: notionable difference. What I'm talking about is that time of
Speaker 12: an evening, the lack of need to put another jumper
Speaker 12: on when it's the middle of winter, if you haven't
Speaker 12: got curtains or something. It really just makes rooms feel
Speaker 12: a lot better and as you said, evan cooler in summer.
Speaker 12: But I think the outlay is quite high.
Speaker 13: But it also is.
Speaker 12: Another great security feature. I don't know about you, Mark,
Speaker 12: but I lived in a home very old, very thin
Speaker 12: glass windows, and they would break when kids were thwacking
Speaker 12: cricket balls or tennis balls whatnot, and burglarsten get a
Speaker 12: lot more easily. Double glazing also provides that level of security.
Speaker 12: But I do just think from a sustainability point of view,
Speaker 12: it really can cut down on heating and cooling costs.
Speaker 2: The other thing is without giving the businesses that do
Speaker 2: this a plague. The other thing is it does knock
Speaker 2: a fair bit of the sound out. We're near a
Speaker 2: main road, and in the old days, with the very
Speaker 2: thin single glazed glass timber windows putty putting it all together,
Speaker 2: as soon as trucks or busses or anything went down,
Speaker 2: you could hear it. Even in the evening someone's doing
Speaker 2: some early morning work a tradees sort of ten to
Speaker 2: eight they get started, you know, you could hear it
Speaker 2: clear as a bill. It does knock probably sixty to
Speaker 2: eighty percent of the sound out, And I think.
Speaker 12: That's why when you look at medium density or even
Speaker 12: high density buildings, you're seeing how quiet they can be. Obviously,
Speaker 12: if you go out to the balcony or it's a courtyard,
Speaker 12: not so much. But when you're inside the place, it
Speaker 12: is kind of quite vacuum sealed and very quiet, which
Speaker 12: just helps with that sort of filling of the ambiance
Speaker 12: in the house.
Speaker 2: I think, Okay, so then how does all of this
Speaker 2: then translate into saleability? Because you know, let's say you
Speaker 2: are investing in all of these things. Beat the double
Speaker 2: glaze windows, the solar panels, the battery, whatever you got
Speaker 2: going right, the sustainability things.
Speaker 3: You've got to pay for it.
Speaker 2: There's government grants for certain things, but you've got to
Speaker 2: pay a lot out of your own pocket.
Speaker 3: You may not even come out in front.
Speaker 2: But if you are putting it in as part of
Speaker 2: a you know, sort of sexing up the house.
Speaker 3: For sale, how do prospective buyers view this? Is it
Speaker 3: with a premium?
Speaker 12: I think that's what's really interesting. We've gone from it
Speaker 12: being kind of a niche thing that sort of many
Speaker 12: affluent buyers would stretch or extend themselves for a sort
Speaker 12: of a luxurious element of a house being sustainable, and
Speaker 12: now we're really seeing demand across middle income homes. They're
Speaker 12: the ones really driving and demanding this sort of feature
Speaker 12: in a property. And what we're seeing in houses in
Speaker 12: those areas, those middle band suburbs in particular, other ones
Speaker 12: where demand is high for these features in a property.
Speaker 12: And you know, we're seeing in Sydney on average around
Speaker 12: twelve and a half percent more premium that people are
Speaker 12: paying for.
Speaker 13: A house with those features in it.
Speaker 12: And I think it's really largely because we've had this
Speaker 12: obviously revolting cost of living crisis, and people have now
Speaker 12: just realized that, you know, that little bit of an
Speaker 12: investment pays off for years to come in the future,
Speaker 12: and that if you are buying a house, the premium
Speaker 12: that you're paying the sustainability will be the reduction in
Speaker 12: energy bills until you then sell the house again. So
Speaker 12: I think I think people have had to through the
Speaker 12: necessity of how high inflation has been over.
Speaker 13: The fews, particularly around energy costs.
Speaker 2: You did a bit of a case study in this
Speaker 2: report about a property at Asquith up on the north
Speaker 2: of Sydney, just north ere of Hornsby.
Speaker 3: What did that uncover?
Speaker 12: Yeah, we did a tour of this incredible house there.
Speaker 12: It's what's called a passive house. That's a very it's
Speaker 12: a Germanic term that basically is a house. This is
Speaker 12: why I think of it. It sort of has lungs
Speaker 12: in the house. So what it does is it completely
Speaker 12: filters air that goes in and out of the house,
Speaker 12: and you are in this space and it feels like
Speaker 12: you are living and bear with me here under the
Speaker 12: sun on a perfect spring like day. What I mean
Speaker 12: is the temperature is constant, the air is completely filtered.
Speaker 12: It is the strangest feeling and you hear absolutely nothing.
Speaker 12: It's completely baffling how these houses work. But basically they
Speaker 12: are completely almost off the grid and require no energy
Speaker 12: to run them. They've got battery packs, soul a panel
Speaker 12: and the energy costs are basically zilch because of them
Speaker 12: maintaining that constant temperature of the home.
Speaker 2: Okay, I have no idea, but does that also improve
Speaker 2: the mold situation? I mean a lot of people listening now,
Speaker 2: as we're seeing the temperatures drop without a lot of rain,
Speaker 2: they'll be seeing mold on their cornices, in their plasters,
Speaker 2: ceilings all over Sydney, and who knows where does that
Speaker 2: help in that circumstance.
Speaker 12: It's an interesting point because I from my understanding, there's
Speaker 12: not scientific data that supports it. However, people who live
Speaker 12: in these houses talk about the health benefits themselves. It
Speaker 12: is at this stage I believe and ancdotal evidence. But
Speaker 12: just because you're not getting any of those pollutions in
Speaker 12: the house and the stabilization of the temperature, I think
Speaker 12: that's ultimately what you're not getting that humidity in a house.
Speaker 12: Some of these houses can even run like this gentleman
Speaker 12: was saying, even in Sydney in the middle of summer,
Speaker 12: technically without air conditioning, and I just think of those
Speaker 12: scorching summers of experienced. It's quite phenomenal how that incredible incilation,
Speaker 12: along with the filtration system and the heating and calling
Speaker 12: being just right, actually runs the house.
Speaker 13: But I have to say the infrastructure required for this
Speaker 13: is substantial. It's not cheap, it requires a lot, not cheap.
Speaker 12: To do the initial outlay, but incredibly cheap to run
Speaker 12: and increasingly becoming more desirable.
Speaker 13: You know, passive house.
Speaker 12: This house in Asquith is and it is an extreme example.
Speaker 12: But I'll give you say something about this as well, Michael.
Speaker 12: This house was opposite a very large school there. I'm
Speaker 12: not sure if it was Asquith.
Speaker 13: High, but it was a very huge school.
Speaker 12: And when you're in the house you hear nothing, and
Speaker 12: you step out in the street and there's bells and
Speaker 12: cart I mean, the whole shebang of a school. But
Speaker 12: it was fascinating from that perspective how you could be
Speaker 12: living anywhere.
Speaker 13: And we've got one in Melbourne in the market.
Speaker 12: Actually, and it's literally on a train line, but you
Speaker 12: hear nothing when you're inside the house.
Speaker 3: Impressive. Okay, now we'll take a break.
Speaker 2: When we come back, we've got sort of I guess
Speaker 2: you'd say, a unique real estate opportunity, but also the
Speaker 2: bargain of the week. I can't believe we're going to Paddington,
Speaker 2: Paddington for the bargain of the week. If you said
Speaker 2: to someone you can buy in Paddington's run to half
Speaker 2: a million, they'd say your nuts. But you can, and
Speaker 2: in fact someone did so. We'll give you all of
Speaker 2: those details straight after this. By the way, should you say,
Speaker 2: Michelle from Smithfield, well done, you're our fifth entrant into
Speaker 2: the National Wine Festival Prize. Will be drawing the winner
Speaker 2: and probably about thirty forty minutes from now. Good luck,
Speaker 2: fingers cross Michelle one three one eight seven three. We're
Speaker 2: talking real estate, of course, in the meantime with the
Speaker 2: wonderful Ali Stalts from Debain. Now this, shall we say
Speaker 2: unique real estate opportunity of the week, Alice?
Speaker 3: What's this.
Speaker 13: You talking about? Paddington?
Speaker 3: Michael up, Now a little further north an island.
Speaker 13: It sounds like you'd like an island, is that right?
Speaker 13: Mike it's incredible. There's a island on the market off
Speaker 13: the Great Barrier Reef.
Speaker 12: Now I love this story because when you think about
Speaker 12: an island, you think I'll never be able to afford that.
Speaker 12: But this island that's called Temple Island. It's about three
Speaker 12: k's off Cape Palmerston National Park in tropical Northern Queensland.
Speaker 13: The islands one hundred and twenty three acres.
Speaker 12: Now on this island is a house, so you are
Speaker 12: actually buying the rights to the island with the house. Now,
Speaker 12: the only caveat here is the house. And the island
Speaker 12: is also owned by another family and one of the
Speaker 12: other families and are selling it. So you will co
Speaker 12: share ownership of the island and this property. I'm told
Speaker 12: you're a lovely family, but you have to sort of negotiate,
Speaker 12: you know, use it six months of the year, eyes.
Speaker 13: At six months of the year. But what an extraordinary thing.
Speaker 12: Now to get to this island. You can you can
Speaker 12: hop on little light plane or you can catch boat.
Speaker 12: But I just thought for under six hundred thousand dollars,
Speaker 12: we don't see this every day, Michael, Okay.
Speaker 3: No, you wouldn't.
Speaker 2: No, So three the house itself three bedrooms, one bathroom.
Speaker 3: There's no car bar. There's no point having a car, is.
Speaker 12: No, But not to worry. You can put your light
Speaker 12: plane just out the front. There's plenty of space for
Speaker 12: you to park the plane or pull up the dinghy
Speaker 12: on the boat.
Speaker 13: But it's quite extraordinary.
Speaker 12: I mean, I'm sure mus be one of the only
Speaker 12: countries in the world where you can actually buy an
Speaker 12: island for under a million bucks. I'm pretty sure it
Speaker 12: would be. But literally on this there is snorkeling nearby.
Speaker 12: Beautiful obviously the Great Berrier Reef to explore whales here.
Speaker 12: You apparently hear the migration once or twice a year
Speaker 12: and whatnot. But apparently a very special part of Australia.
Speaker 2: And there'd be ample opportunities to catch some fish for dinner.
Speaker 3: I would think.
Speaker 12: Indeed, you would never need a local store. I'm not
Speaker 12: sure you get your milk from but look, you know.
Speaker 12: And the other thing is I had to laugh at
Speaker 12: this listing. It comes with you do have Telstra and
Speaker 12: Optus coverage on the island and it says, you know,
Speaker 12: for those who want it. But I thought it's actually
Speaker 12: it's an interesting caveat, isn't it to actually have to
Speaker 12: put that in there.
Speaker 2: I thought, in a place like that, do we believe
Speaker 2: that anymore after recent stories? Okay, now bargain of the
Speaker 2: week not quite as exotic. But you know, as I said,
Speaker 2: if you were saying to anybody listening, oh look, you
Speaker 2: can get a joint in Paddington in glen View Street
Speaker 2: if you don't mind, for under half a million dollars. No, yeah,
Speaker 2: what are you selling a shoebox? Okay, well, this is
Speaker 2: a studio, so it's a shoe box for people really
Speaker 2: big feet. But tell me about this.
Speaker 12: Yeah, if you want the two two to one post
Speaker 12: code of Paddington. This studio sort at auction last weekend
Speaker 12: for four hundred and seventy nine thousand dollars.
Speaker 13: Now a lot of money, but.
Speaker 12: As you said, this is the cachet of one of
Speaker 12: the arguably Sydney's most lovely little areas. Now it is
Speaker 12: a tiny studio, but we've also talked about in the
Speaker 12: past clever ways you can sort of reconfigure these to
Speaker 12: actually make them work quite efficiently.
Speaker 13: It's got a little living.
Speaker 12: Space which is also doubles as you're sleeping space. But
Speaker 12: I do believe that imaginatively you could sort of potentially
Speaker 12: put a little wall up or a blind or sort
Speaker 12: of cording that of small kitchen and a little bathroom
Speaker 12: as well. Now it doesn't come with a parking spot,
Speaker 12: which is what I always love because you can always
Speaker 12: rent that out on the side. But there is parking
Speaker 12: on site for residents, but you can't obviously rent out
Speaker 12: your own. It's not on the title. But I just thought,
Speaker 12: what an extraordinary sale to see in city, just three
Speaker 12: hundred meters from Liverpool Street, right near five Ways in
Speaker 12: Paddington and in that lovely sort of Glenville partment building.
Speaker 12: It so that's sort of old Deco building and it's
Speaker 12: a lovely building. It's on level too, so you've got
Speaker 12: a bit of light coming in from it as well.
Speaker 2: Okay, so it's not massive, but I mean it's the
Speaker 2: low not good if you've got five children and planning
Speaker 2: to expand. But if you're a single guy or girl,
Speaker 2: and I don't know, maybe you're working in the city
Speaker 2: or you're just starting your real estate journey, you want
Speaker 2: a little bit of a little bit of capital behind
Speaker 2: you or whatever.
Speaker 3: I mean, my goodness, for four hundred and seventy nine.
Speaker 12: Thousand, correct, and I do I do again say that
Speaker 12: I think when you if this was your own place,
Speaker 12: you could sort of kiss it out in a way
Speaker 12: that made it as efficient as possible. And I hear
Speaker 12: what you're saying, probably not five children, but there are
Speaker 12: ways to actually configure these to sort of put in
Speaker 12: custom bunks. I mean, I'm not joking here, but there
Speaker 12: are many imaginative things you can do when you start
Speaker 12: researching how to live in a very small footprint with
Speaker 12: sort of custom joining in. That is a very worthwhile
Speaker 12: investment that can actually make their studios feel much more
Speaker 12: efficient and have a real sort of style of their own.
Speaker 12: So I just thought it were a fascinating by that
Speaker 12: we saw last weekend.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm quite blown over by just how close you
Speaker 2: can get to the city for that sort of a price,
Speaker 2: given it is a small footprint, but none the less wonderful.
Speaker 2: Thank you for this week, Alice. As always, we'll speak
Speaker 2: same time next week.
Speaker 3: Okay, look forward to it. Thanks Michael, my pleasure.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Alice Stults, the National Property editor there from
Speaker 2: domain three one eight seven three is our number. It's
Speaker 2: five to two, okay, we've got the two o'clock news
Speaker 2: just around the corner. Let's go make a cup of
Speaker 2: tea or whatever it is and we'll come back. An
Speaker 2: interesting third hour coming up. We'll speak with Andy Gregory,
Speaker 2: who's the chair of the National Wine Festival. Of course,
Speaker 2: so we've been putting people in the drawer for this
Speaker 2: extraordinary prize, so we'll have a chat to him about
Speaker 2: the whole Australian wine scene. And also we'll get our
Speaker 2: lucky winner up on the open line and give them
Speaker 2: the good news during that later in the hour. I'm
Speaker 2: looking forward to this as well. I'll be speaking to
Speaker 2: the successful New South Wales One Nation Senate candidate Warwick Stacy.
Speaker 2: Now I've met Warick once or twice at some different
Speaker 2: functions hosted by Professor David Flynt, and Warick is a
Speaker 2: very very impressive human being, very gifted orator and an
Speaker 2: incredible backstory, a former British soldier, and I think he
Speaker 2: will make a great addition to the Australian Senate. I
Speaker 2: think we need a few more people like him in
Speaker 2: there sorting out the nonsense that goes on. A few
Speaker 2: more Warick's and a few less lydia Thorpes, if you
Speaker 2: get my drift anyway, So We're having a chat with
Speaker 2: Warreck in the final hour as well, looking forward to
Speaker 2: that and seeing what's on his agenda and what his
Speaker 2: priorities are. I think dovetailing off the conversation yesday with
Speaker 2: Malcolm Davis from Masby. You know, the defense of the
Speaker 2: Commonwealth has to be a very significant issue in this
Speaker 2: Parliament and people like Warwick will be able to keep
Speaker 2: that topic relevant.
Speaker 3: News is next.
Speaker 1: It's now onto gb and network stations. Back to afternoons
Speaker 1: with Michael McLaren.
Speaker 2: All right into the third hour. Thank you for joining
Speaker 2: us on this rather glorious Friday. I hope you've got
Speaker 2: a nice weekend planned as well. One three one eight
Speaker 2: seven three The open line number if you want to
Speaker 2: have you say on anything really doesn't have to be
Speaker 2: anything we're discussing.
Speaker 3: You just sent the agenda. You're in control.
Speaker 2: You can set us a text. Many have I'm trying
Speaker 2: to get through what how many texts. I can't get
Speaker 2: through all of them. But thank you for writing zero
Speaker 2: four six, zero eight seven three eight seven three. Not
Speaker 2: that this is going to be the biggest issue in
Speaker 2: the world, but of course, you know, you change certain
Speaker 2: things around and then there are knock on effects. And
Speaker 2: so the new Sydney Fish Market is obviously adjacent to,
Speaker 2: but not really in the same location as the old
Speaker 2: Sydney Fish Market. As we were discussing earlier, the old
Speaker 2: side will be bowled over and developed, and in part
Speaker 2: that will help fund the rather extraordinary cost of building
Speaker 2: than you and all of that. But one side effect,
Speaker 2: as it were, of that is that the Fish Market
Speaker 2: light rail stop may need to have a name change
Speaker 2: because people will be getting off stepping out, and they're
Speaker 2: not really at the fish Market, mind you, they're not
Speaker 2: far away. But there is some talk about changing the name,
Speaker 2: and I see that the Geographical Names Board is seeking
Speaker 2: community feedback on a proposal by Transport for New South
Speaker 2: Wales to rename the fish Market light rail Stop the
Speaker 2: Bank Street light rail Stop. Now the fish Market light
Speaker 2: rail stops located in the intersection of Bank Street and
Speaker 2: Miller Street, just over here underneath the Western Distributor, and
Speaker 2: it's near the entrance to the current Sydney Fish Market.
Speaker 2: But Transport for New South Wales has proposed changing the
Speaker 2: name to Bank Street light rail Stop to reflect the
Speaker 2: street on which it is located.
Speaker 3: Okay, now, look, I use that light rail.
Speaker 2: Occasionally I think I'm just going off the top of
Speaker 2: my head here, trying to sort of bird's eye view,
Speaker 2: But I would imagine that the Wentworth Park stop is
Speaker 2: actually going to be closer to the new Fish Markets
Speaker 2: than the Fish Market stop is at the moment. So
Speaker 2: perhaps that's also part of the quite unquote logic here.
Speaker 2: If it were me, I just transport for New Southwest
Speaker 2: before I went down this path, I say, listen, okay,
Speaker 2: just tell me if I was the minister, how much
Speaker 2: is it going to cost to change all of the signage,
Speaker 2: all of the names, all of the signage and stickers
Speaker 2: and everything that are inside the light rail trams, the
Speaker 2: light rail vehicles themselves, to change the name from fish
Speaker 2: Market to bank Street on all of those London Underground
Speaker 2: style maps on the how much is all of that
Speaker 2: going to cost? And if the figures in any way sizeable,
Speaker 2: forget it, leave it. People can work it out. It's
Speaker 2: not far away. But if it's a negligible cost change
Speaker 2: the name, whether bank Street's going to mean much to people.
Speaker 2: I don't think too many people are hopping out of
Speaker 2: bank Street because of Bank Street, but anyway, that's that.
Speaker 2: So you might want to have, you say you can
Speaker 2: do that. There'll be submissions closing June the thirtieth, so
Speaker 2: you've got about a month. I think you just go
Speaker 2: to the geographic name Board website if you're half.
Speaker 3: Interested in any of that. All right, So there's that.
Speaker 2: There's an interesting story also, the bubble up earlier in
Speaker 2: the week, and it's to do with Tesla.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 2: You know, sometimes I think we can be our own
Speaker 2: worst enemies. As reporting The Guardian that Elon Musks Tesla
Speaker 2: as they'd like to call it, there is one step
Speaker 2: closer to opening a factory in an Adelaide suburb. That is,
Speaker 2: despite overwhelming community opposition from quote anti Tesla and anti
Speaker 2: Elon Musk sentiment end quote.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: On Tuesday night, the city of Marion, that's the council there, Adelaide,
Speaker 2: voted to seek state government approval to sell the site
Speaker 2: to a developer who will build the factory. You know,
Speaker 2: lots of jobs and whatever, but environmental concerns and worries
Speaker 2: the site would draw protesters were also cited among the
Speaker 2: ninety five percent of people who made submissions opposed to
Speaker 2: the plan for the battery factory. Okay, so there's environmental whatever.
Speaker 2: But I would imagine the majority of people who are
Speaker 2: get upset don't like Elon Musk because he's associated himself
Speaker 2: with Donald Trump, and they don't like Donald Trump. So
Speaker 2: anyone who's even vaguely within the oscillation of the Great
Speaker 2: Trumpster is persona non grata and anything associated with them
Speaker 2: can't be anywhere in me. So the argument goes, I
Speaker 2: mean that these people crazy. Now, let's just put it
Speaker 2: this way. B yd or Great Wall or whatever, one
Speaker 2: of those Chinese companies wanted to open a battery factory,
Speaker 2: do you think.
Speaker 3: They'd be getting upset. I don't think they'd blink an eye.
Speaker 2: I mean it'd be interesting to go and have a
Speaker 2: look in the backstory about all of these different companies
Speaker 2: and what goes on. But you know it links to
Speaker 2: the Communist Party of China. Oh good, nothing.
Speaker 3: To see there.
Speaker 2: Oh but Elon's been advising Trump with doge, and so
Speaker 2: therefore we can't have anything to do with him here,
Speaker 2: even though the jobs would be well paying and high
Speaker 2: skilled and good for our kids. And oh I can't
Speaker 2: have that because Elon's got something to do with it.
Speaker 3: This is just mad.
Speaker 2: Anyway, It will be interesting to see what happens. I
Speaker 2: don't know for a determination as yet been made. The
Speaker 2: mayor said that blocking the sale of the site would
Speaker 2: have no impact on Musk and would have cost one
Speaker 2: hundred local jobs. True, so the mayor is smart. I'm
Speaker 2: not sure about all the constituents, mind you. The people
Speaker 2: complaining may not even be constituents themselves. They could be
Speaker 2: from you know, it could be from Mozambique.
Speaker 3: For all I know. The wonder of the Internet.
Speaker 2: One three, one eight seven three Friday food after this
Speaker 2: great to be with you at sixteen minutes past two
Speaker 2: now one afternoons.
Speaker 3: Friday food.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, Australia makes some beautiful wines. That is a
Speaker 2: statement that has absolutely no one in disagreement. Regions like
Speaker 2: the Hunter, the Yar of the Barossa Valley, all of
Speaker 2: that and more, of course testament of the truth. But
Speaker 2: the wines and the work that goes into making them,
Speaker 2: that's got to be celebrated. And that's exactly what's happening
Speaker 2: at the National Wine Festival. It is one of the
Speaker 2: country's most prestigious events for wine on the calendar and
Speaker 2: this year it'll be June twelve to fifteen. Award winning
Speaker 2: producers experts and enthusiasts, all invited to four days of
Speaker 2: learning about and celebrating and yes, tasting, everything that goes
Speaker 2: into creating the perfect Australian drop. Now, our wine industry
Speaker 2: is a major contributor to the global economy, certainly to
Speaker 2: our own economy, where the fifth largest wine producer and
Speaker 2: exporter in the world. Not bad when you consider that
Speaker 2: the vines didn't arrive here until what at the earliest
Speaker 2: two hundred years ago, and with a total vineyard area
Speaker 2: now estimated to be about one hundred and forty six
Speaker 2: thousand hectares, one point zero four two million liters of
Speaker 2: wine are produced per year. I think it's safe to
Speaker 2: say we love it, but above all, the rest of
Speaker 2: the world loves it as well. Now, Andy Gregory is
Speaker 2: the chair of the National Wine Festival. That's not a
Speaker 2: bad gig. And he joins me on the line. Andy,
Speaker 2: good to.
Speaker 6: Speak to you, Great to speak to me you.
Speaker 2: Michael, congratulations on the festival. It's a wonderful celebration of
Speaker 2: what we do.
Speaker 14: Well, isn't it exactly a great opportunity to celebrate great industry.
Speaker 14: As you just said, it's really important to the nation
Speaker 14: and we're trying to amplify that importance. We're hosting the
Speaker 14: first ever national Wine Festival.
Speaker 2: Now, despite the surname, I have no connection to the
Speaker 2: McLaren Vale region, South Australia.
Speaker 3: Alas I do like medic and big reds.
Speaker 2: I think, what's our most famous once pon a time
Speaker 2: called Sharaz? It was Chardonnaye we used to send around
Speaker 2: the world and that was the Australian wine. Is it
Speaker 2: now more the reds the Sharazes? And is that what
Speaker 2: we're now better known for?
Speaker 6: Probably the bigger reds, the Sharaz.
Speaker 14: But but we are getting world class RNES wines across
Speaker 14: the board, from front in sparklings, where we've got we're
Speaker 14: one of the few countries outside France the one of
Speaker 14: the best sparkling award in the world, and all the
Speaker 14: way through to the back end fortified wines, where we've
Speaker 14: got producers in rather Glen who are simply the best
Speaker 14: in the world.
Speaker 6: So we're really.
Speaker 14: Broadened out in terms of our quality wine offerings.
Speaker 2: How have we got to that point, because as I said,
Speaker 2: you know, you look Europe, some of those vineyards have
Speaker 2: been the hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of
Speaker 2: years we haven't had that longevity, but we've clearly got
Speaker 2: the right conditions.
Speaker 14: You know what we've had, Michael, and this is James
Speaker 14: Halliday quote. We basically had the most rigorous wine judging
Speaker 14: system in the world, where we have wine shows at
Speaker 14: regional levels in the major capital cities and the national
Speaker 14: line show and the rigor that's associated with that has
Speaker 14: helped us really work through the last fifty one hundred
Speaker 14: years in terms of improving the wines on offer and
Speaker 14: making sure that we're positioning ourselves well well for the future.
Speaker 14: And it's really worked well. Like we are really in
Speaker 14: a good space at the moment.
Speaker 2: Speaking of the judging, the trophy presentation dinner, which is
Speaker 2: I guess the apergye of the festival, regarded as one
Speaker 2: of the highlights of the whole thing. That's Thursday, June twelve.
Speaker 2: What happens to that dinner, because that's the great and
Speaker 2: the good go to that one, don't.
Speaker 6: They they do?
Speaker 14: Look at For the first time really ever, we've offered
Speaker 14: publicly available tickets. We hild up to five hundred people
Speaker 14: in the Great Hall of Parliament House, which is spectacular
Speaker 14: in its own right and basically the wineries coming from
Speaker 14: around the nation and the awards are delivered and with
Speaker 14: the top gong being the Prime Minister's Trophy, which we're
Speaker 14: hopeful the Prime Minister will award again this year as.
Speaker 6: He did last year.
Speaker 14: So it's a it's a meeting of people who have
Speaker 14: a passion for wine and just want to celebrate the
Speaker 14: success of the industry.
Speaker 3: The politicians will be there, of course.
Speaker 4: Not so much.
Speaker 6: Oh really, not so much.
Speaker 14: It's it's very much industry and yeah, industrument media.
Speaker 6: There'll be a lot of media there.
Speaker 3: There's a few free drinks. That's why the media will
Speaker 3: be there.
Speaker 14: You know them well, Mike, yeah.
Speaker 2: They of themselves, but on a serious level for the
Speaker 2: average enthusiast, a lot of Australians are an enthusiast without
Speaker 2: getting into all of the origins and all of this.
Speaker 2: When they sip it through the teeth, there is going
Speaker 2: to be just so many variet available to try.
Speaker 3: And that's one of the great things of this, isn't
Speaker 3: it Michael.
Speaker 14: This is probably the biggest offering that's ever been made
Speaker 14: to the public, Australian public to engage with the industry.
Speaker 14: In terms of we have one thousand and seventy one
Speaker 14: wines that people can taste. All of those have gone
Speaker 14: through the show system, so they've actually have won a
Speaker 14: gold or a silver medal even before they get to
Speaker 14: the National Wine Show. So every one of those one
Speaker 14: thousand and seventy one wines is outstanding in its own life.
Speaker 14: So we've got five public tastings for three hours long
Speaker 14: where people can come along and really test out all
Speaker 14: the varieties. We've got thirty five master classes led by
Speaker 14: luminaries of the Australian mine industry. And we've got the
Speaker 14: two dinners this said the Parlament House, and we've also
Speaker 14: got a great dinner on the Friday night at the
Speaker 14: Higatt High Canbra with Jene Kitson mcn o.
Speaker 3: Wonderful, great fun.
Speaker 6: It's always great fun, and.
Speaker 14: There's a lot of a three course center cheese and
Speaker 14: all the best wines in the country being served, and
Speaker 14: it's well, I won't name price, but it's actually very
Speaker 14: very very good value. So there's a lot of people
Speaker 14: can Basically, if you're looking for an excuse to come
Speaker 14: to camera, you wouldn't.
Speaker 6: Get much better than this.
Speaker 3: It's great. It's actually beautiful time of the year.
Speaker 2: Ago Okay, so the festival will be as we've established,
Speaker 2: a celebration of the industry, but at the same time
Speaker 2: there will be a lot of frank conversations taking place
Speaker 2: among those in the industry. There's stories abounding about a
Speaker 2: bit of a glut of grape produce certain varieties in
Speaker 2: certain areas. I think the River Arena particularly producing a
Speaker 2: glut at the moment. So it's one of those things,
Speaker 2: like a lot of agriculture broadly in Australia, where you
Speaker 2: have your highs and you have your lows, and the
Speaker 2: tougher the ones that can ride it out, but you
Speaker 2: know there's casualties along the way. It's not just a
Speaker 2: license to print money, is it.
Speaker 14: No spot on, It's just an agricultural endeavor and that
Speaker 14: comes with all those risks. At the moment, there's a
Speaker 14: global over supply of grapes and what I guess we
Speaker 14: do quite well in this country is ensure that the
Speaker 14: grapes we continued push through into the future are the
Speaker 14: better ones. And along the way we lose some of
Speaker 14: the margins, which is sad, but that's agriculture and it
Speaker 14: is an opportunity. We have an industry specific session where
Speaker 14: winemakers come from around the country and they taste all
Speaker 14: the different wines produced by their competitors and others, and
Speaker 14: they look for why wines are winning trophies or gold
Speaker 14: medals and they feed that knowledge back into their wine
Speaker 14: making practices.
Speaker 6: So it is an education for industry as well.
Speaker 2: Okay, now we've got a wonderful prize to give away
Speaker 2: and we'll announce the winner in just a moment. But
Speaker 2: before we do, whenever I do this Friday Food segment,
Speaker 2: we don't just celebrate wonderful produce and all that. We
Speaker 2: talk about the business. Now we've just sort of gone
Speaker 2: there obviously there greg Andy, But broadly, the tax arrangements
Speaker 2: around alcoholic beverages in this country, wines included, can be prohibitive.
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of Australians know, you fly out
Speaker 2: the London or Europe or whatever, you can pick up
Speaker 2: an Australian bottle of wine off the shelf, even when
Speaker 2: you convert the currency exchange for far cheaper than you
Speaker 2: can probably get the same or similar bottle off the
Speaker 2: shelf here. And the difference is tax. Is that something
Speaker 2: that the industry is constantly speaking to government about.
Speaker 14: So it's a cost of being in business industry acutely
Speaker 14: of where it's a significant cost.
Speaker 6: We're working the industries, working.
Speaker 14: With government all the time on those and a high
Speaker 14: range of other issues. We're fortunate in having to Trade
Speaker 14: and Tourism Ministry at the moment happens to be a
Speaker 14: wine maker, Don Farrell and basically governments, whatever the flavor
Speaker 14: of government, are sympathetic.
Speaker 6: To the course.
Speaker 14: They realize the value of the Australian wine industry. They
Speaker 14: don't want to compromise that. But let's be honest. All
Speaker 14: of us pay tax in one form or other and
Speaker 14: the wine industry is no different.
Speaker 2: That's right, all right, Andy, I just want you to
Speaker 2: hang on there because we're going to announce. We've got
Speaker 2: five very excited, anticipating individuals waiting. There can only be
Speaker 2: one winner, of course, for this extraordinary price we've been
Speaker 2: speak about all week with the National Wine Festival, two
Speaker 2: nights accommodation of the Park hy at Canbra, which is
Speaker 2: one heck of a hotel Thursday, the twelfth Friday, the
Speaker 2: thirteenth of June. Double pass to that trophy presentation dinner
Speaker 2: at Parliament House that Andy's been talking about, along with
Speaker 2: a double pass to the Expo tasting event. Alright, I'm
Speaker 2: going to put my hand in the official two GB
Speaker 2: cardboard box.
Speaker 3: Here, pick out a name and it is Raphael. Hey, Raphael,
Speaker 3: are you there?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm here, Mike mate, you are off to Canberra.
Speaker 5: Thank you for that, and thank you to two GB
Speaker 5: and to the wine industry.
Speaker 3: Well that's the I'm sure it's everybody's pleasure made. Hang
Speaker 3: on there.
Speaker 2: Congratulations. You are in for a wonderful, wonderful couple of nights.
Speaker 2: As I said, you're getting two nights accommodation of the
Speaker 2: Park Hy at Canbra and that is one Stonking Hotel
Speaker 2: Thursday the twelfth and Friday the thirteenth of June. So
Speaker 2: if you've got plans, cancel them. A double pass to
Speaker 2: the trophy presentation dinner at Parliament House, Andy, that's the
Speaker 2: one in the Great Hall, isn't that one?
Speaker 6: Hey?
Speaker 14: It is absolutely The Great Hall is a fantastic venue.
Speaker 6: It's just great.
Speaker 2: And the double pass to the Expo tasting event. Raphael,
Speaker 2: you are in for a treat. Thank you for listening,
Speaker 2: thank you for being a loyal listener, and thank you
Speaker 2: for what you do. Best of luck for that extraordinary
Speaker 2: festival that's coming up, and look forward to speaking down
Speaker 2: the track.
Speaker 6: Well, thanks Alatt and Mike.
Speaker 14: Can we look forward to seeing half of Sydney at
Speaker 14: the festival.
Speaker 6: That'd be a good start.
Speaker 3: We might need more than that one thousand and seventy bottles.
Speaker 3: I reckon all the best, Andy Gregory. They're the chair
Speaker 3: of the National Wine Festival.
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Speaker 2: And by the way, those that didn't win, you're not
Speaker 2: going without two GB price pack coming to all of you,
Speaker 2: so there'll be some goodies in there to enjoy.
Speaker 3: Clinton Maynard, good afternoon.
Speaker 9: Just referring to the Great Hall in Parliament House. So
Speaker 9: I just took my son to Parlment House, Soviets and
Speaker 9: he looks he's fourteen. He's not really into politics. He
Speaker 9: was more interested in going to Questerakin in the museum
Speaker 9: that we visited in Canberra, and it was on a Saturday,
Speaker 9: so the politicians weren't at home. But we went through
Speaker 9: the Great Hall and then I showed him the Senate
Speaker 9: and showed him the Lower House, and he obviously taking
Speaker 9: a keen eye in these issues. He spotted a timer
Speaker 9: in the Lower House, so it's obviously the time that
Speaker 9: it's used. This is actually I think a digital one
Speaker 9: that was up there, because they do use a digital
Speaker 9: one as well, just to make sure the politicians stick
Speaker 9: to time with their responses to questions. And he remarked, oh,
Speaker 9: this is just a sport, right for a little bit
Speaker 9: like a school board countdown clock.
Speaker 3: That's a pretty good analogy.
Speaker 9: I think it's just a sport. He's probably seen question
Speaker 9: Tom on Parliament and figured that's what it a mounts to.
Speaker 2: True, it's it can be a contact sport, there's no
Speaker 2: doubt about it, verbal rather than physical.
Speaker 3: Well in our parliament. You go to some other places
Speaker 3: and it's on for young and old.
Speaker 9: Oh the ti wee in these parliaments except oh yeah,
Speaker 9: I think.
Speaker 3: The Serbian parliament had a crack not long.
Speaker 9: Ago, didn't they. They were letting off flares inside the parliament there.
Speaker 3: South Korea, they storm the buildings.
Speaker 9: If we could do it to the Americans, Well, yeah,
Speaker 9: the issue at the moment, is it's actually be the coalition?
Speaker 3: Would people?
Speaker 9: No, I should say the Liberal Party now that it'll
Speaker 9: be fighting amongst themselves.
Speaker 2: Well, the timer would be app because you could say
Speaker 2: like sands through the hour glass. So the days of
Speaker 2: our lives.
Speaker 3: You know, it's a bit that way, isn't it.
Speaker 9: I'll certainly bring you the latest for the AEC because
Speaker 9: the count is continuing the south and and I note
Speaker 9: that the gzel cap tire.
Speaker 3: In three front front one.
Speaker 9: It's back down to one, back down to one, it's
Speaker 9: back down to one.
Speaker 2: Now is this because they're actually getting through a lot
Speaker 2: and the just oscillating or are they counting like one
Speaker 2: ballot every twenty minutes yet?
Speaker 9: From what I understand that the scrutin is, so you've
Speaker 9: got the people that are working with the Tals and
Speaker 9: those that are Liberals that they're taking it very slowly.
Speaker 9: Obviously they are looking at each individual ballot paper closely
Speaker 9: to figure out whether it's informal, whether it's valid with
Speaker 9: all the numbers have been.
Speaker 3: All the box.
Speaker 2: I'm a horrible cynic eleven years on overnights does that too.
Speaker 2: It's part of the vitamin D deficiency. But is it
Speaker 2: the case that correct me if I'm wrong here?
Speaker 9: But the tablets.
Speaker 2: If so, you listened to Russell said right, more like it.
Speaker 2: But if you were a liberal scrutiny, let's say, and
Speaker 2: it looked as though they put one where the Gizell
Speaker 2: kept hearing name was, but sort of stuffed the rest,
Speaker 2: are you more likely to say, I think we can
Speaker 2: count that. I think we can see the intent there,
Speaker 2: whereas if they put one beside, say miss Buller and
Speaker 2: stuff the reason.
Speaker 9: I think that's the way it works, Michael. And then
Speaker 9: with the scrutiny from the tiers, and then there's probably
Speaker 9: someone from the AEC.
Speaker 3: So this is why it takes a long time, I suspect.
Speaker 9: So okay, all right, And then of course we use
Speaker 9: pencils that were an issue of whether we'll hang on.
Speaker 9: There's an eraser may have been used there.
Speaker 2: There's a third of an inch of that one popped
Speaker 2: into the box above it.
Speaker 9: I know we have the debate about whether we should
Speaker 9: go digital, and that does bring complications in itself. I mean,
Speaker 9: look at the Comwealth Banks got problems this afternoon with
Speaker 9: their app. But it does seem antiquated.
Speaker 3: It's very slow.
Speaker 9: Look at least this and this isn't deciding who's empowered,
Speaker 9: and that's the good thing, thank goodness. But it was
Speaker 9: supposedly going to be a close election and it was
Speaker 9: going to come down to a few seats. So I
Speaker 9: think because it didn't.
Speaker 3: What else is coming up?
Speaker 9: The Fine and Risky Commissioner Jeremy Firtrell would join me
Speaker 9: this afternoon. A few house fires in the last twenty
Speaker 9: four hours, not necessarily sparked by electric bikes this time,
Speaker 9: but you would have noticed to see what you're wearing
Speaker 9: at the moment. You got a big puffer jacket on
Speaker 9: from Unichlo. It's obviously sparking a warning about heat. It
Speaker 9: is a smoke awareness day on Sunday. But the fire
Speaker 9: and Bonnie rig this morning it was as they're investigating
Speaker 9: the causes. The residents have admitted they had turned the
Speaker 9: smoke larms off because they cook a lot. So I'll
Speaker 9: speak with the commissioner about that in the program, and
Speaker 9: the latest on Penrith Council's threats to find one of
Speaker 9: our listeners, and I brought us the story yesterday that Andrew,
Speaker 9: who is a veteran and has a Bobcat, he used
Speaker 9: his Bobcat to clear a storm water drain.
Speaker 3: At least someone is.
Speaker 9: During the floods of last and parts of there's a
Speaker 9: lot of flash flooding in city last weekend. He's in
Speaker 9: London Dream cleaned out the storm water drain because it
Speaker 9: was threatened to flood his neighbor. Neighbor was very grateful
Speaker 9: because their house is dry and the debris pulled out
Speaker 9: of the storm water day and just just left it
Speaker 9: up on some of the grass. Of course, you know
Speaker 9: what the Council's done fight him, Well, they're threatened the
Speaker 9: police to investigate and laid charges and find him and
Speaker 9: they're going to send him a bill to remove the debris.
Speaker 9: The debris they're responsible for. So we went through that yesterday.
Speaker 9: We've got some formal response now from the council. I'll
Speaker 9: bring you that this afternoon.
Speaker 3: That'll be worth listening to it. I heard you yesterday
Speaker 3: speaking about that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, what I'm going to tell you about the council
Speaker 9: will blow your mind. Lego Master's back on TV Sunday
Speaker 9: night on Channel nine. Your daughter would love Lego Masters,
Speaker 9: she would Is she old enough yet?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, loves Lego. Loves Lego.
Speaker 9: The Brickman will be on the program.
Speaker 3: Okay, Oh, he's a lovely fellow.
Speaker 9: Brickman will be on the show. And Mark guy with
Speaker 9: all his footy tips.
Speaker 3: All right, great, thank you.
Speaker 9: He'll be tipping the Tigers, no doubt.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, no, I know again, I thought as disclosure,
Speaker 2: don't do my tips.
Speaker 3: Chuck does, and Chuck tip the Cowboys.
Speaker 9: Did Chuck tip the Sharks?
Speaker 2: I don't remember. All I know is you got none
Speaker 2: from five last week, so the Tigers.
Speaker 3: Have a chance.
Speaker 9: All yeah, A lot of us tipped one from five.
Speaker 9: I've tipped the Sharks this weekend.
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, ye wow, oh there's a turn up
Speaker 3: for the books.
Speaker 9: They're playing the bi true.
Speaker 3: I forgot about that.
Speaker 2: Thanks Clinton, I should remember that Clinton Maynard would Sitney
Speaker 2: now straight after three.
Speaker 10: Good afternoon, Michael three. M Australia has sixty days to
Speaker 10: present a clean up plan for a quarry in the
Speaker 10: state's central West which is contaminated with cancer causing PFAS chemicals.
Speaker 10: The EPA says the remote location means there's little chance
Speaker 10: of human exposure. Two people have been rescued after becoming
Speaker 10: stranded on ROCKSI could you prompting life savers to issue
Speaker 10: are wanting to be careful along the coast with a
Speaker 10: hazardous surf warning for the weekend. Teenage boys been charged
Speaker 10: over Task Force Falcons discovery of a kill car in Guilford.
Speaker 10: The car had firearms, balaclavers and a jerrycan with fuel
Speaker 10: in it. And a paraglider in China who was testing
Speaker 10: some equipment has ended up a twenty eight thousand feet
Speaker 10: up when lifted by strong winds. He survived the altitude
Speaker 10: without oxygen, although his face and body work covered in ice.
Speaker 10: In sport, video has emerged of Tiger's five eighth Lachlan
Speaker 10: Galvin training with bulldogs at Belmore Sports Ground despite no
Speaker 10: official confirmation of him signing with the club. The nineteen
Speaker 10: year old is attempting to complete a messy split from
Speaker 10: the Tigers. And there'll be more news at three o'clock
Speaker 10: on afternoons.
Speaker 1: A finance update for Pretzel Wealth and finance for Trusted
Speaker 1: Financial Planning just Google Blake.
Speaker 3: Went to Pretzel.
Speaker 2: Well, as they say, generally speaking, some things go up,
Speaker 2: some things go down.
Speaker 3: One step four, two steps back, whatever it is.
Speaker 2: Scott Phillips from the Motleyfull dot com dot au retail
Speaker 2: spending data out today from the ABS, and I guess
Speaker 2: all of that ring true on that front, doesn't it.
Speaker 15: Scott call Gora and I think, yeah, that's pretty much right. Unfortunately,
Speaker 15: the bad news is retail sales fell for the month
Speaker 15: of April down zero point one percent. Now that's on
Speaker 15: the previous month on March lop three point eight percent
Speaker 15: for the year, but that point one percent decline is
Speaker 15: worth unpacking it. So household goods were up a little bit,
Speaker 15: clothing and footwear down two and a half percent, Department
Speaker 15: store spending down two and a half percent. Food also
Speaker 15: down three tenths of one percent, so a couple of
Speaker 15: key areas there. The games were in other retail and
Speaker 15: cafes and restaurants as well. As I said, household goods
Speaker 15: by state too unfortunate. New South Wales was the worst
Speaker 15: of the states and territories. Again, that minus zero point
Speaker 15: one percent nationally compares to a one percent fourth New
Speaker 15: South Wales aer point seven percent drop for the ac TEA.
Speaker 15: In fact, the only two states in positive territory were
Speaker 15: Queensland and Western Australia, so a bit of work to
Speaker 15: be done. Unfortunately, the simple reality is that we know
Speaker 15: after yesterday's CAPEX numbers. By the way, private capital expenditure
Speaker 15: also down by a time of one percent. There is
Speaker 15: some sense that maybe the economy is just slowing a
Speaker 15: little bit, whether it's confidence on the back of these
Speaker 15: tariff news, whether it's simply business is not prepared to
Speaker 15: put that money to work just in case. But yeah,
Speaker 15: the wind is not exactly at our back to the moment,
Speaker 15: not exactly at our front either. But it's interesting times
Speaker 15: and probably pressing actually in the event, the ABS did
Speaker 15: the AES, the IBA did decide to cut rates last
Speaker 15: month because we may well need that support if these
Speaker 15: things continue to weaken.
Speaker 2: All right, now, the markets and the dollar today because
Speaker 2: in US tariffs are legal and now they're not unless
Speaker 2: they are, And so that's throwing things around a bit,
Speaker 2: isn't it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know it.
Speaker 15: In fact, the last one so far at least is
Speaker 15: they are now neither legal nor legal. The court found
Speaker 15: they were illegal the Court of Appeal, so though we
Speaker 15: have put that aside and wait for an appeal to
Speaker 15: be heard. So the tariff remained in place until that appeal.
Speaker 15: The market's been topsy turvy today. Spend the morning in
Speaker 15: the red. The early part of the afternoon of the
Speaker 15: green back in the red before two o'clock, but the
Speaker 15: last little while just poked its head above water again
Speaker 15: up about oh, I mean less than a tenth of
Speaker 15: one percent eighty six hundred and forty four points GASI
Speaker 15: dollar needive against all the major currencies in coulding against
Speaker 15: the US dollar, but only again by the slightest of
Speaker 15: margins sixty four point two nine US set.
Speaker 3: Okay, Scott, thank you, We'll catch you next week.
Speaker 2: Have a lovely weekend, Scot Phillips there from the Motley
Speaker 2: fool full dot com dot e you. It's about twenty
Speaker 2: four minutes to three. Will take a break when we
Speaker 2: come back. Looking forward to speaking to Warick Stacy. He
Speaker 2: snagged that sixth Senate seat in New South Wales. He
Speaker 2: goes in as one nation's fourth senator. That equals their
Speaker 2: best ever result of a federal election. But Warick Stacy
Speaker 2: is a very very interesting human being. I've met him
Speaker 2: a few times, great communicator, and I think you'll make
Speaker 2: a great senator. Look forward to speaking to him after this.
Speaker 2: Right on twenty to three, bank smack on it. Thank
Speaker 2: you for your company this afternoon, one three, one, eight
Speaker 2: seven three, of course, is our open line number track
Speaker 2: of the day coming up as well. Now, look, many
Speaker 2: have been focusing politically on these seats Bradfield, they're still
Speaker 2: counting there, of course, Goldstein and cou.
Speaker 3: Yong in Melbourne.
Speaker 2: But there has been another political story bubbling away below
Speaker 2: the surface. It's the one that usually drags out and
Speaker 2: it's the Senate. But One Nation, Pauline Hansen can feel
Speaker 2: pretty buoyant today because the final seats in WA and
Speaker 2: New South Wales have been decided and they've gone to
Speaker 2: her candidates. One nation has seen I think their equal
Speaker 2: best result now four senators in total. I don't know
Speaker 2: what sort of difference it's going to make, because between
Speaker 2: Labour and the Greens, the left of politics will control
Speaker 2: the Senate. But nonetheless, a greater presence gives you a
Speaker 2: greater ability, I would say, to start prosecuting the case
Speaker 2: and hold governments to account. So we've seen Malcolm Roberts
Speaker 2: reelected this time around. Paulin Hanson of course still has
Speaker 2: her seat, but now they'll be joined by Tyron Witten,
Speaker 2: Senate of a Western Australia. I don't know anything about him,
Speaker 2: but my next guest, I do Warreck Stacey. He's picked
Speaker 2: up the final spot in the new South Wales Senate. Now,
Speaker 2: Warreck's got quite the background. I believe he was born
Speaker 2: and raised here but then moved to Europe in his twenties.
Speaker 2: He eventually joined the Armed Services. Plenty of his time
Speaker 2: was with the British Army, including I think spending time
Speaker 2: in the Sas before coming back to Australia to serve
Speaker 2: in our Army Reserve. An interesting history. Now, I've seen
Speaker 2: Warick present to audiences on a number of occasions in
Speaker 2: the company of Professor David Flynt, and I can tell
Speaker 2: you this man is a very very gifted orator, no notes,
Speaker 2: just bang, and very inspirational in engaging in the way
Speaker 2: he speaks. With that military background, I'm quite confident in
Speaker 2: saying will make a very positive contribution not just to
Speaker 2: the Senate but Australia's politics over the next six years.
Speaker 2: And I'm also very glad to say Warwick Stacey's with
Speaker 2: me on the line. Warick, nice to speak with you again.
Speaker 7: Michael, Thank you very much and thank you for that
Speaker 7: for your very kind words. The point I'd like to
Speaker 7: make about your point about a greater presence in the
Speaker 7: Senate means it will have a greater voice, and I
Speaker 7: shall certainly be there with Pauline and Malcolm and Tyrone
Speaker 7: speaking for Australia.
Speaker 2: Okay, now I should probably address you a Senator Stacey.
Speaker 2: Shouldn't they forgive me?
Speaker 15: For that's what Senator elect.
Speaker 3: Senator elect off to be very precise, quite right.
Speaker 7: But otherwise Warri, it's fine, Worri, it's fine.
Speaker 3: Let's stick with Wrick. What's top of the agenda when
Speaker 3: you get to Canberra.
Speaker 7: Well, I think the first thing is to certainly continue
Speaker 7: to prosecute out the policies that we took to the election,
Speaker 7: and that is basically to put money back into people's pockets,
Speaker 7: to stop the waste, the government waste. We're looking at
Speaker 7: saving ninety billion dollars and there were areas which we
Speaker 7: already determined where that could be done. And so really
Speaker 7: just pursuing our election points, and that includes also stopping
Speaker 7: the madness with the net zero.
Speaker 3: Just on that.
Speaker 2: Just let me just put in there, because a lot
Speaker 2: of listeners Warrick say, look, okay, net zero, whether we
Speaker 2: stick with it or not, legislated or not, may not
Speaker 2: even matter because everyone around the world is doing it,
Speaker 2: but none of them will probably meet it. So yeah,
Speaker 2: one goes down, they all go down. But just from
Speaker 2: a purely practical point of view, let's say governmentally we
Speaker 2: stick with zero's legislation by twenty fifty, can we achieve
Speaker 2: that without nuclear power?
Speaker 7: Well?
Speaker 6: Could? I say?
Speaker 7: First of all, the fact that everybody around the world
Speaker 7: is doing it doesn't mean that it's right and that
Speaker 7: we should be doing it. So I mean that's I
Speaker 7: think it's an absurd position to take. And to come
Speaker 7: back to your second point, No, it can't be done
Speaker 7: without nuclear power, and so that's another hurdle that.
Speaker 6: Has to be crossed.
Speaker 7: But it's it's not just the and whether it's as
Speaker 7: you say, whether people and it's failed. I mean, the
Speaker 7: Paris Agreement has failed. All the signatories as soon as
Speaker 7: the ink was dry, they went home and they can
Speaker 7: just continue to do what they were doing. They had
Speaker 7: no intention of meeting their supposed obligations. And this is
Speaker 7: it's the cost of the role out that is destroying Australia.
Speaker 7: It's just this mad rush to this eighty two percent
Speaker 7: Noble's target. It's what's causing the huge spikes, the huge
Speaker 7: increases in people's electricity bills if I wonder what that's
Speaker 7: coming from, which I just saw recently and in fact
Speaker 7: a very good article by Judas Sloan some weeks ago.
Speaker 7: She said that ten thousand killer meter is it thirty
Speaker 7: thousand kilo meters? Nobody seems to know of transmission lines
Speaker 7: have to be constructed. So and that's of course, is
Speaker 7: going to cut through farmland, and it's going through the
Speaker 7: Kosiasco National Park at the moment, destroying that. And it
Speaker 7: just brings to mind the phrase it was used during
Speaker 7: the Vietnam or we had to destroy the village to
Speaker 7: save it, and we've now got Bowen and the environmentalists
Speaker 7: destroying our environment supposedly to save it. So there's a
Speaker 7: huge cost. But again back to your point, nuclear has
Speaker 7: to be on the table. But also I think what
Speaker 7: we can have is net zero is zero. You have
Speaker 7: high efficiencies, zero zero emission coal fired power stations. We
Speaker 7: have the cleanest, the finest call in the world. There's
Speaker 7: this new technology zero emissions from coal fired power stations.
Speaker 7: Why aren't we doing that?
Speaker 2: Just on the point of the military, I mean, that's
Speaker 2: a very significant part of your background. And when I
Speaker 2: met you that came across very strongly. Just in the
Speaker 2: way you presented, you could tell you were a military man,
Speaker 2: and that's a great compliment. Obviously Australia faces and everyone
Speaker 2: agrees left right center, doesn't matter that we face some
Speaker 2: of the most challenging geo strategic circumstances, probably since Vietnam,
Speaker 2: which you mentioned, but perhaps even since World War II.
Speaker 2: A lot of people say we are just not prepared
Speaker 2: in Australia, not just from a military point of view,
Speaker 2: but from an entire industrial point of view. The late
Speaker 2: Great Jim Molan made that point in that Gift to
Speaker 2: the Nation, his final book to the Nation. I wonder
Speaker 2: how many canber have actually read it, but they should have.
Speaker 2: You will no doubt be prosecuting that case through your
Speaker 2: role now in the Senate.
Speaker 7: Well indeed, and again it's I mean, I look at Australia,
Speaker 7: I hold my head in my hands sometimes and I
Speaker 7: wonder what the bureaucrats are doing. The Department of Defense
Speaker 7: has done nothing but waste money over I think, if
Speaker 7: you like, my lifetime back in Australia since I returned
Speaker 7: to Australia in the late nineteen eighties, and as you say,
Speaker 7: I joined the Army Reserve. When I returned, I wanted
Speaker 7: to be an Australian soldier. And it's it's just been
Speaker 7: unmitigated waste, one thing after another. So the Sea Sprite
Speaker 7: helicopter is one point three billion, it never even flew.
Speaker 7: We've had the Armored Reconnaissance helicopter who's never fully commissioned
Speaker 7: before it was binned and something else was bought. The
Speaker 7: MRH ninety that it crashed sadly with four lives lost
Speaker 7: two years ago, but what just a knee jerk reaction.
Speaker 7: The whole fleet was grounded. It's since been found that
Speaker 7: it was pilot era eight or ten. Armies around the
Speaker 7: world still flying the MRH ninety.
Speaker 6: What did we do?
Speaker 7: We cut up our forty six aircraft, nearly a billion
Speaker 7: dollars worth of equipment and buried it. And who took
Speaker 7: this decision? And so what we've had is waste. The
Speaker 7: Prime Minister I saw he was He commented the other
Speaker 7: day on a report from the IPA and claiming that
Speaker 7: it was a report written by coalition former coalition people
Speaker 7: that they needed to take a good look at themselves.
Speaker 7: And I think he needs to take a good look
Speaker 7: at himself because he said, we look at the amount
Speaker 7: of money we're spending. It seems to me that both
Speaker 7: this government and there I say, the previous coalition government,
Speaker 7: they measure everything by the amount of money they spend.
Speaker 7: They don't look at the results, they don't look at
Speaker 7: the outcomes, they don't look at whether what they spent
Speaker 7: the money on was actually going to is going to
Speaker 7: do what it's supposed to do.
Speaker 6: And so from the.
Speaker 7: Prime Minister, the only metric Key's interested in is the
Speaker 7: money that is spent, not looking at the equipment. With
Speaker 7: that we get the whether it's needed or not, whether
Speaker 7: it's going to work or not, whether it's going to
Speaker 7: do what it says it does it's supposed to do
Speaker 7: on the tin. And so unless there's a change there.
Speaker 7: I mean, these frigates that we're buying, apparently it's about
Speaker 7: forty five billion dollars worth of frigate I think from
Speaker 7: memory it's about nine billion dollars each, and they've been
Speaker 7: I think they're in the design phase. They're supposedly top heavy.
Speaker 7: They don't have enough miss missile silos. The fifth generation
Speaker 7: frigates today have ninety six silos. This one's got about
Speaker 7: thirty five or thirty six, and yet we're plowing ahead
Speaker 7: with it forty five billion dollars. And I've seen the
Speaker 7: South Koreans can build a frigate for a billion one
Speaker 7: billion dollars, so one billion Australian dollars. So why why
Speaker 7: we are not buying off the shelf equipment that's been proven,
Speaker 7: it's been tested and it's operationally ready is beyond my comprehension.
Speaker 7: It just seems that we just spend on material that
Speaker 7: hasn't been designed that or if we do buy it
Speaker 7: off the shelf, we cut it in half at an
Speaker 7: extra ten or fifteen meetings and then expect it to work.
Speaker 2: A lot a lot of that, as you know, is
Speaker 2: about propping up jobs in Adelaide. Now before you go,
Speaker 2: a fan of yours are just called through. Finally enough
Speaker 2: Pauline of Queensland. I think it says here on the
Speaker 2: open line, Pauline, good afternoon.
Speaker 16: Good afternoon, and gratulations Warwick. I haven't had a chance
Speaker 16: to speak to you. I sent you a message, but
Speaker 16: I am so happy for you, But not in that.
Speaker 16: I'm so happy for the people Astra, especially those people
Speaker 16: in New South Wales who had the common sense of ope,
Speaker 16: for you, you know, just listening to you again, Warwick,
Speaker 16: and I have heard you speak before, and the fact
Speaker 16: is that this is why you're a good fit with
Speaker 16: one nation. You want accountability, you want to know where
Speaker 16: the tax dollars are going. You want, you know, to
Speaker 16: do a lot for defense. I know that's dar too.
Speaker 16: Heart is defense, and you know that's why we had
Speaker 16: you and chose you to be the Senate lead Senate candidate.
Speaker 16: And I am so pleased to see that actually one
Speaker 16: year seat. I'm going to look forward to working with
Speaker 16: you closely on the Flora Parliament.
Speaker 3: So congratulations now, Pauline Hanson, before you go, you're telling
Speaker 3: me you haven't yet been able to congratulate Warick. You
Speaker 3: had to do it on my show. Was that what
Speaker 3: you're saying?
Speaker 16: Well, I did personally.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 16: So I had to send him a text message because
Speaker 16: he never picked up my call. But anyway, of course
Speaker 16: he's overseas, it's not but I'm so thrilled. I was
Speaker 16: just so shocked. I was thrilled and also surprised when
Speaker 16: I was told this morning that we'd run the seat
Speaker 16: the same as with Tyrone and just missed out on
Speaker 16: Victoria as well. Just clearly missed out on that seat.
Speaker 2: Just in Tasmania. You've done very well. There'll be four
Speaker 2: of you in the Upper House. Pauline, thank you for
Speaker 2: the call. Warick, I've got a clearer commercial break, but
Speaker 2: thank you for your time and we look forward to
Speaker 2: watching your now senatorial career.
Speaker 7: Thank you, Thank you, Michael, Thank you Pauline too. I'm
Speaker 7: grateful for the opportunity.
Speaker 3: Warwick Stacey, Senator elect for New South Wales.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're almost out of time, but I've got to
Speaker 2: give away a double pass to Ireland, orchestrated starring the
Speaker 2: magnificent Damien leif Thiss is track of the day.
Speaker 3: Here's your question.
Speaker 2: One three one eight seven three, Which Cadbury product was
Speaker 2: first produced in Tasmania on this day in nineteen twenty eight.
Speaker 2: Which Cadbury product was first produced in Tasmania on this
Speaker 2: day in nineteen twenty eight. This song might give you
Speaker 2: a bit of a clue my old theme song. Okay,
Speaker 2: so a bit of hot chocolate there, which Cadbury product
Speaker 2: was first produced in Tazy on this day in nineteen
Speaker 2: twenty eight. If you know one three one eight seven
Speaker 2: three and a double pass to Island orchestrated starring the
Speaker 2: magnificent Damien Leith as yours. He is the voice that
Speaker 2: stole our heart. And of course it's Saturday May thirty one.
Speaker 2: Joanavisk Gosford, well done. Of course the answer was Dairy Milk,
Speaker 2: the Dairy Milk chocolate first produced on this day back
Speaker 2: in nineteen twenty eight. And Tazzy, You're off to Sea Island,
Speaker 2: orchestrated with Damien Leith on Saturday May the thirty first
Speaker 2: at the iconic State Theater in Sydney. That will be
Speaker 2: a wonderful night. Yes, I believe the Commonwealth Bank's still
Speaker 2: having some issue.
Speaker 3: No, it's fixed.
Speaker 2: The Commonwealth Bank have fixed their issue with the online banking,
Speaker 2: so that is good news.
Speaker 3: Clinton is next