WEBVTT - Afternoons with Michael McLaren - Friday, 30th May 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:07.360 On two GB at network stations. This is Afternoons with 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:08.280 Michael McClaren. 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:11.559 Good afternoon, thanks for being with us. The second last 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:14.280 day of May. It is May thirty. It's gorgeous outside. 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:16.840 If you're one of those work from home types, today 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:18.200 is a pretty good day to do it. Go and 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:20.560 hang out the Washington hang outside with a cup of 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:23.840 tea for a while. Gorgeous, gorgeous day one, three, one, eight, seven, three, 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:26.400 the open line numbers. We push through Friday and enter 0:00:26.440 --> 0:00:28.600 the weekend. Plenty of footy on and looking forward to 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:31.080 seeing the Tigers play this weekend. Of course the new 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:35.120 South Wales girl the Origin series. They were defeated last 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:38.280 night in Newcastle. It's always a good match. The caliber 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:41.080 of the standard rugby league at the elite level in 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:44.400 the women's part of the game is really extraordinary. If 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:46.400 you haven't watched it, do it. It really is very 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:49.360 very good. Now, what have we got for you between 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:51.880 now and three o'clock. Well, a little later this hour 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:55.440 I'll be speaking with a professor of urban planning from 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:58.240 the Western Sydney University. There's a lot of talkers, you know, 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:02.680 headlines everywhere at the moment following the defeat of the 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:07.160 proposed sale of rose Hill for development. As to where 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:09.679 all of these additional properties are going to go, they'll 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:12.040 pretty much be units. But where are all the units 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:14.440 going to go? If you're not going to get twenty 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:20.319 five thousand new potential dwellings in rose Hill, you're still 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:23.200 going to need them, where are you going to put them? Well, 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:26.360 there was a master plan released the other day suggesting 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:29.679 that we could really beef up the development at Sydney 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:31.959 Olympic Park, and I think they want to call it 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:36.679 the East Village or something like that. Another suggestion today, 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:38.800 and a lot of this is coming from people with 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:42.480 skin in the game, either connections to developers or whatever. 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:46.840 But also former planning officials now remove from the constraints 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:50.080 of government, so they're free to talk as they want 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:53.960 or as they wish. So there's another suggestion today that 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:56.760 in fact, just around here, the old Fish Market site 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:59.120 and spilling into this part of Piermont where I am 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:04.720 sitting right now, is right for far denser development than 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:09.480 the original governmental proposal. Now that's probably true, but all 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:12.720 along the way, and that's just two examples, there's obviously 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:16.280 a lot of medium density six story units. This sort 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:18.280 of thing going up all over the place, the north Shore, 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:19.720 the inner West, everywhere you look. 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:21.160 This is infill is happening. 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:24.480 So the question is not so much do we need 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:28.680 the properties the answers yes, The question is who is 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:34.400 ensuring which body is ensuring that all the associated infrastructure 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:37.600 goes along with it, Because the last thing you want 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:40.400 to do is put in tens of thousands of new 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:44.240 units in already reasonably heavily populated areas where the roads 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:47.720 are already quite congested, the schools already pretty full, the 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:54.880 hospital's already under strain. Without adding to the school facilities, 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:59.000 the hospital better availabilities, the open space for people who, 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:01.440 because they're living in flat won't have backyards, the kids 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:03.000 going to want to run around, the dogs are going 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:04.560 to need someone to go and chase the ball. This 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:07.280 they're going to have parking. There's a lot of things 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:10.000 that have to be factored in dare I mention water 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:14.639 and energy availability. Now, I having spoken to a few 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:18.760 mayors on this program over the years, they often tell 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:22.040 me that they're under enormous pressure to sign off on 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:25.640 the new developments. And when they push back and say, look, okay, 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:28.400 we're not Nimbi's we're willing to do it within reason, 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:31.080 But where's the money going to come from? Where's all 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:34.320 the planning and all the gazetting for the schools, the 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:37.200 hospitals and everything else, And they get two fifths of nothing. 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:41.000 Come back to those questions. That's when they get reluctant 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:44.680 to sign off. And they're right to be reluctant to 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:45.280 sign off. 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:46.080 So I want to. 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:48.000 Speak to a planning expert about how we can put 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:50.520 all of this together so that we're not doing the 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:54.600 usual Australian trick, and that is retro fitting rather than 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:57.560 planning in advance, so it's cheaper to do the latter 0:03:57.600 --> 0:03:59.960 than the former. Now Alice will be here speaking of Really, 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:02.600 we've got our Domain real Estate segment later this afternoon, 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:04.560 and don't forget if you want a property valued, just 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:06.920 get in touch with us or go off my part 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:09.400 of the website and there's a special form there. 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:09.920 It's all there. 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:12.040 Just fill it out name and addressing this sort of thing. 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:14.280 We'll get all of that info to the people at Domain, 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:16.800 they'll crunch the numbers. We'll get you on air, we'll 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:18.359 chat about the property. You can tell us a bit 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:20.480 about what it's like inside and all this sort of stuff, 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:24.400 and we'll get you a price range that's part of 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:27.560 the service of the segment. So that's later this afternoon. 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:31.360 Now we've also got one last chance to get into 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:35.479 the draw for that incredible National Wine Festival prize. I'll 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:37.440 be drawing it out of the bottle as it were, 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:40.680 later this afternoon. But there's one more chance to get 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:45.400 in and hopefully, hopefully later today, I'll also get to 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:48.640 speak to Warick Stacy. Now I've met Warwick once or twice, 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:52.400 very impressive human being. He's now the one Nation senator 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:55.720 elect for New South Wales. Pauline Hanson's team have done 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:59.839 quite well. I think four Senate seats now for Pauline Hanson, 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:02.960 one Nation, one of them coming from this state. Warick Stacy, 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:05.919 he's got in there and so I hope to speak 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:08.840 to him later this afternoon if we can arrange that 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:13.000 His military credentials a sound and we do need, as 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:15.840 Patrick wrote to me earlier on the text line, we 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:21.599 do need people with know how in this space to 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:25.839 really push the government to bring Ford the investment that 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:30.760 is necessary to keep our commonwealth safe. So a figure 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:34.599 like Warick Stacy in the Senate for that, if no 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:38.080 other reason, I think will be in every Australian's interest. 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:39.520 So we've got all of that and more. Stay with 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:42.280 us one three, one eight seven three. By the way, 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:44.479 news just coming through from the ABC that up to 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:47.760 eight people believed to be from China have been detained 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:50.800 by border protection authorities after reaching a very remote part 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:53.719 of the Northern Territory coast by boat earlier this week. 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:57.000 I haven't seen any other details about this, but the 0:05:57.040 --> 0:05:59.839 ABC has been told the first six members of the 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:04.239 group were discovered by local workers on Tuesday while walking 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:08.680 near the remote indigenous township of Madin Grader. That's approximately 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:12.080 five hundred kilometers east of Darwin, up in Arnham Lands 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:14.480 and there's not much there. Another two men were picked 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:18.039 up the following day by indigenous rangers before eventually being 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:22.479 taken into custody by the Australian Border Force. So far, 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:25.560 I don't think they've commented on the operation, as the 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:29.000 ABC reports, it's unclear where the group has now been taken, 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:31.640 but a source familiar with the interception says the men 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:35.000 were believed to be Chinese and had reached the Australian 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:35.960 mainland by. 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:38.880 Sea before being detected. 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:43.760 Now, if my memory serves me right, this is certainly 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:48.400 not the first incursion by Chinese nationals through these sort 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:52.080 of routes. In fact, yes, late last year, the ABC 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:57.279 reported on several suspected people smuggling operations involving Chinese nationals, 0:06:57.320 --> 0:07:00.880 including a venture which was disrupted by Indonesian authorities twelve 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:04.039 months ago. So, for whatever reason, there's this appetite for 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:06.039 some Chinese people to try to come here by boat. 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:10.800 Perhaps they're fleeing political persecution. Who knows what the story is, 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:13.600 but it seems to be happening a little more frequently 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:15.880 than was the case in the past one three, one, eight, 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:23.240 seven three, just gone seventeen past twelve. Nice to have 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:25.320 you with us now. Of course, we're all familiar with 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:28.880 the old saying a fool and his money are soon parted. Well, 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:31.480 it seems there's no bigger fool than the government. But 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:34.680 the problem being it's our money that they keep parting with. 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:35.400 Now. 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:37.960 A report in The Herald just last night once again 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:41.840 highlighting how millions and millions of dollars are siphoned off 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:46.920 to indigenous related programs that are seldom audited, rarely effective, 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:51.280 and often downright unaccountable, as Angus Thompson writes, according to 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:54.720 a damning report from the Order to General, New South 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:58.120 Wales taxpayer spent two hundred and twenty two million dollars 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:02.440 on measures to close the gap, but less than half 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:07.679 led to tangible outcomes for First Nations people less than half. 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:10.760 And the sad thing is I doubt many of you 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:14.600 would be surprised, because we've been here before and often. 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:16.880 In fact, eight or so years ago, the team of 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:19.160 the Center for Independent Studies wrote a submission to the 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:24.520 Productivity Commission's Review into National Prosperity, and it suggested some 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:31.360 ninety two percent of indigenous programs were not evaluated. Inefficiency 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:34.200 was a hallmark of many such programs. Many were poorly 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:37.920 targeted because they treated Indigenous people as some homogeneous blob, 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:44.840 and unremarkably, there was significant overlap between the myriad programs 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:48.200 on offer. Now, the paper that uncovered all of that 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:53.760 was titled Mapping the Indigenous program and Funding Maize. Well, 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:57.120 it seems very little expenditure photography has been done in 0:08:57.200 --> 0:09:01.000 the near decades since. Speaking of mapping, and as the 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:04.160 New South Wales Order to General report says, quote, some 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:08.520 individual projects have established effective partnerships and are beginning to 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:14.800 demonstrate positive results. However, governance arrangements do not provide adequate 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:19.839 oversight of delivery. Now, in Layman's terms, what they're saying 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:23.240 is the taxpayer dollars being wasted because no one's checking 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:25.960 to ensure the rivers of gold reach those who are 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:29.200 in need. Now, look, I'm not sure whether all the 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:33.000 findings from twenty sixteen still hold true, but back then, 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:36.840 the Center for Independent Studies suggested the community of Tumola, 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:41.000 and that's on the MacIntyre River, population three hundred, had 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:46.760 something like seventy service providers delivering programs, which seems like 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:51.040 an extremely generous ratio of service provider to resident. And 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:53.319 it wouldn't surprise me if it's still the same story 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:54.839 out there now, which begs the. 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:57.040 Question who's accountable here? 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:00.360 Who checks the efficacy of all of these services, let 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:03.840 alone whether they're being delivered in a productive manner, and 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:07.240 how many of the Indigenous specific budget is actually being 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:11.920 spent on manpower instead of outcomes. Because tumul are aside. 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:14.320 Believe me, there will be a small army clipping the 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:16.280 ticket right up and down the food chain here and 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:19.800 whether many of them are being held to account and 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:23.840 forced to justify the merits of their offering, is anyone's 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:27.760 guess now? Sadly, for the many Aboriginal people doing are tough, 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:32.080 let alone for the nation's international reputation. The vast majority 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:34.800 of closing the gap targets, first set in two thousand 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:38.000 and seven and then expanded in twenty twenty, have not 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:42.160 been met. In fact, only scant improvement has been measured, 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:46.080 despite billions of dollars being poured in. From indigenous employment 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:50.520 to infant mortality year twelve attainment rates to average life expectancy, 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:54.559 the metrics are not on target. But when bodies like 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:56.760 the New South Wales Order to General concludes and I 0:10:56.840 --> 0:11:01.960 quote the governance arrangements are not operating effectively and do 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:07.559 not provide clear accountability for the delivery of national agreement initiatives. 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:10.680 Is it any wonder now? I know? 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:12.640 One of the key findings from a review done at 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:14.640 the national level into all of this just last year, 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:17.600 in fact, suggested too many in government and the public 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:22.400 sector were reluctant to seed responsibility to Indigenous people and 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:26.040 to take on board their views and experience from ground zero, 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:28.760 as it were, Now, as Catherine Little from the so 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:32.040 called Council of Peaks said at the time, quote government 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:35.120 was still not meaningfully giving us a voice in the 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:39.200 decisions that affect our lives end quote. Well, unfortunately that's 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:42.040 a truism of government, whether you're Aboriginal or not. But 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:45.920 even when they do consult indigenous bodies and inability to 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:49.720 agree on outcomes only Hamper's progress. Again, as the Order 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:54.600 to General report concludes, despite agreeing to work collaboratively, the 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:57.520 New South Wales Premiers Department of the Coalition of Aboriginal 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:04.280 Peaks have quote not formed a genuine partnership end quote. Now, 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:07.319 as I've said many times before, until the very isolated 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:12.479 and remote Aboriginal communities are closed and consolidation of populations 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:15.760 is encouraged in larger town centers with the existing medical, 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:19.000 educational employment opportunities, we're going to fail to see the 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:22.960 sort of outcomes that one would expect considering the scale 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:27.079 of investment in this space. You know, hard conversations are 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:30.840 needed here and leaders with a practical rather than paternalist 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:34.640 mindset must rise to the fore See, all taxpayers, I 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:38.400 think should be appalled appalled that half of the two 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:41.280 hundred and twenty two million dollars recently spent on closing 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:43.840 the gap in this state was found to have no 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:49.200 tangible benefit at all. But as I've said, it's but 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:54.040 the latest chapter in a long story of misallocated, wasted 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:58.000 and unaccounted expenditure by governments that seem to score their 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:02.200 credentials in aboriginal affairs not by outcomes, but rather by 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:04.719 the size of the check that they sign. A lot 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:07.160 of feedback coming in on this Friday afternoon nights to 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:08.560 have you there with us, by the way one three 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:10.640 one eight seven three. The open line is open. You 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:12.960 can keep the text coming zero four six zero eight 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:16.240 seven three eight seven three. Someone rather cheekily suggested those 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:19.920 suspected Chinese nationals up Arnam Land Way might have crept 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:22.240 out of the sub as it went around the coast. 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:25.400 I'm not quite sure that was the way they got here. 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:29.000 I suspect it was a boat that was quite discernible 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:31.280 from above water. But I like your thinking a lot 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:33.920 of texts about the population issue. It really is the 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:36.240 big one, the one that's hot to trot, because it's 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:38.080 going to affect everybody one way or the other. 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:40.559 Positively and negatively. I mean, we've got to be realistic here. 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:43.160 It's a lot of people that own homes but whose 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:46.200 children and grandchildren don't and are looking at the market 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:48.520 and saying, well, unless something really gives, they're never going 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:52.280 to own anything. So, you know, even those that may 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:56.840 suffer to an extent because their neighborhood is about to 0:13:56.960 --> 0:13:59.480 change and the quarter acre blocks are going to go 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:02.600 because we're getting apartments and there's going to be more 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:06.439 cars on the road, even they many of them understand 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:09.920 that if we just sort of set and forget, that's 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:12.920 not going to help their next generation either. So it's 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:16.640 a balancing act, okay, But that's what I'm saying in 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:21.400 this whole maneuver. We've got a balance building new apartments 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:24.920 with building the rest of the economy that is required 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:27.640 to service them and the people that will be living 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:30.800 in them, so that all the other metrics don't just. 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:31.400 Fall in a heap. 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:34.640 Now, a number of people on the text making the 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:37.360 point that we wouldn't be chasing our tail as hard 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:40.880 as we do if it weren't for the migration policy 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:43.520 that we are running. And that is a very valid point. 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:45.640 And I know as soon as you raise this, you're 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:48.960 either accused of being racist or whatever, which is just ridiculous. 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:51.680 It is simply numbers game. It's not the be all 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:54.080 and end all. But it's quite obvious if you pump 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:58.080 prime the market with lots of would be buyers and 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:01.720 you can't match that with develop then you are going 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:05.240 to have an imbalance. And that's what we've got now. 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:07.040 Brett on the text in for quite a few different 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:09.840 Breats have texted. So here's Brett number one. He says, 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:12.240 where are the billions of dollars gone over the decades 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:14.640 for Aboriginal communities? If you divided up what has been 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:19.280 spent to each individual, it'll be multi millions. Bureaucracy choose 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:22.200 up most of the money. Same with the NDS. No checks, 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:24.800 no balances, just government money. Well it's not government money. 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:28.480 Is tax pays money from Brett? Yeah, Well true, I 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:31.480 mean the ndis they're now discovering Rohtz left, right and center. 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:36.840 But you know, you build these behemoths unless you've got 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:40.400 the requisite auditing in place, there will be a lot 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:43.040 of people clipping the ticket and not delivering the service. 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:47.080 Brett number two on the tech says, Michael, if I 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:50.080 can just throw him two, Bobsworth. In regarding the housing crisis, 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:53.840 unless we review our current immigration policy, we'll never have 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:57.920 enough affordable housing in the country. That's echoed by many 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:00.720 other people. Miriam says, in relation to where in Sydney 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:04.600 being rezoned, the council looking after areas around Strathfield Station, 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:08.840 particularly between the station and paramatter Oro, there is a 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:12.360 lot going on there, that's true. I think that would 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:16.040 be Is it Burwood Council? Is there Burwood Councilors? I 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:17.840 think it is Burwood Council that would have that. There's 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:21.880 certainly a lot of development there. Maybe it is Strathfield Roz. 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:23.920 Thank you for your note, She says. Not only are 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:27.680 our hospitals undergrades, strain with ramping and insufficient beds every day, 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:30.280 but we're already unable to get through the traffic congestion 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:34.200 to get to them. What would more congestion do to 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:36.720 the area, was say twenty five thousand more high rise 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:37.840 boxes squeezed in? 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:40.160 Especially without any more hospitals, We've. 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:43.440 Lost access to our services, lost the amenity of our communities, 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:45.960 so that we can just have this big Australia that 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:51.680 the average citizen does not want. True that's true. Now again, 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:56.400 we've got to be rational. There are shortages in the economy, 0:16:56.440 --> 0:17:02.480 in the workforce for age care, childcare, a lot of 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:07.040 these sort of sectors, and without migration, it's pretty obvious 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:08.920 the average Australia is not going to fill those jobs. 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:11.760 They don't pay well enough, the conditions aren't right, whatever. 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:15.600 So that's just the way it is. Now. 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:18.439 You can try to train your way domestically out of 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:20.720 that problem and raise the wages and when, or you 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:22.280 can just bring people in who are going to be 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:24.480 willing to work for less and do the job. And 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:26.919 it seems that the latter is where we've landed. So 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:29.920 if we just shut the whole show down tomorrow, there 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:33.760 would be a cascading and cataclysmic effect throughout the economy. 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:39.480 But it's about getting the balance on the numbers right. 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:41.959 And I think I'd be speaking for many people when 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:44.439 I said I don't think we've we haven't recalibrated that 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:47.760 meter effectively. All right, let's just go to Tasmania quickly. 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:50.560 Here you know, budgets left, right and center everywhere. But 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:53.679 it's a story all over Australia. We're living beyond our means. 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:58.600 Tasmania's government. According to Matthew Denholm, who's the Appollisle expert 0:17:58.640 --> 0:18:01.800 at the OS, he said, the government will double state 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:05.959 debt down there, double it while funding a new AFL stadium, 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:10.000 an increase spending while running deficits for the foreseeable future. 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:14.720 It's a liberal government, the minority, but liberal will allow 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:17.800 net debt to further balloon from five point twenty six 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:20.440 billion this financial year to ten point seven eight call 0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:24.000 it eleven billion by twenty eight twenty nine. Now, that 0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:26.919 doesn't sound like a lot of money, eleven billions to 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:29.000 the federal government, like you or me losing a twenty 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:31.800 cent coin down the couch. But you've got to remember 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:36.280 that Tasmania's economy is tiny. It's tiny, right, so eleven 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:38.480 billion dollars in net debt is a lot of debt 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:42.560 for that small economy to service. Now, the budget, according 0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:45.960 to Matthew Denholm, allocates three hundred million dollars for a 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:50.240 second power interconnector to Victoria, despite conceding in the budget 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:52.200 that it may never eventuate. Well, even if it did, 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:55.000 I mean, is there any guarantee Victoria will have surplus 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:58.679 energy to send to Tasmania As we've discussed. I'd be 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:00.280 surprised if they can keep their own life. It's on 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:04.120 littleone anybody else's By twenty thirty five, an extra nine 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:06.560 hundred and forty million dollars to address the state's failing 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:09.680 health system. It's problem all over the country. But this 0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:11.560 is going to be the controversial one, and it has 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:16.040 been for years. The new treasurer, his first budget includes 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:21.360 six hundred and fifteen million dollars for us AFL Stadium. Now, 0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:23.440 the total cost of the stadium will be just shy 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:25.680 of a billion. Now that's at the moment, so you 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:27.240 can guarantee it we'll go to one point two one 0:19:27.280 --> 0:19:29.760 point three billion by the time it's done. There's a 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:33.320 lot of money to spend putting seats around a paddock. 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:35.800 It might be whiz bang state of the art, but 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:37.680 you know, I mean, we've been through these discussions in. 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:38.680 New South Wales before. 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:39.240 You know. 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:42.359 The Allion Stadium is a fantastic facility, but it still 0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:44.680 cost taxpays about eight hundred million dollars or something. 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:47.600 There's a lot of money, a lot of money. 0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:50.240 So you know, you can only spend the dollars once 0:19:50.960 --> 0:19:54.199 and I'm not convinced even though many of us enjoy 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:58.399 that facility and it's an improvement on the old Sydney 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:02.199 football stadium, that was the best way to allocate that 0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:05.000 eight hundred million or whatever it cost, is still I 0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:08.240 think an open debate in this state. But of course, 0:20:08.240 --> 0:20:10.399 the New South Wales economy is far bigger than the 0:20:10.400 --> 0:20:14.040 Tasmanian economy and to tip six hundred and fifteen million 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:20.159 scarce Tasmanian economic dollars into a football stadium, to me 0:20:20.280 --> 0:20:24.760 seems insanity. But anyway, it's up to the Tasmanians. They 0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:28.479 can vote which way they like. Anyway, the Treasurer claimed 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:30.840 that the budget down there off at a quote sensible 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:36.600 pathway to surplus. Well mate, sorry, there must be something 0:20:36.600 --> 0:20:39.040 wrong with your apicus. There is nothing in the numbers 0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:42.480 that suggest Tasmania will be heading to surplus anytime soon. 0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:43.160 Just not there. 0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:46.639 It's not there, So they're kidding themselves, but they, like 0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:48.760 most of the rest of the country, living beyond their means. 0:20:48.920 --> 0:20:51.879 One three one eight seven three the open line number. 0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:53.160 G I there, John. 0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:59.000 God imight you took the words down of my map? 0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:02.560 There been those hill and I thought you might as 0:21:02.560 --> 0:21:06.440 well get as they say, straight from the Horse's Mouth. 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:09.880 I've been here about thirty years, mate, in that area, yep, 0:21:10.200 --> 0:21:13.280 and they wanted to flog it for five billion, and 0:21:13.280 --> 0:21:18.680 they reckon that can put twenty five thousand homes on it? Mate, 0:21:19.080 --> 0:21:22.080 if they put twenty five on No expert, but I've 0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:24.600 spoken to a couple of mates and this and the 0:21:24.600 --> 0:21:27.960 building game they've been. If you put put two five thousand, 0:21:28.080 --> 0:21:30.000 five hundred homes on that. 0:21:30.040 --> 0:21:34.720 Right of ops, John, I think your lines dropped out, mate. 0:21:34.800 --> 0:21:36.159 We'll try to get you back just so we can 0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:39.560 finish it. Whether it's twenty five thousand home slash units 0:21:39.600 --> 0:21:42.679 or whether it's accommodation for twenty five thousand people. I 0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:45.440 just want to double check that, because obviously that's two 0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:48.200 very different figures. Twenty five thousand homes that accommodate fifty 0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:50.399 fifty five sixty thousand people. I think it might be 0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:54.199 twenty five thousand people, which would probably necessitate I don't know, 0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:56.600 eleven twelve thousand units something like that. I don't know, 0:21:57.160 --> 0:21:58.679 but I can guarantee you this, John, there'll be no 0:21:58.680 --> 0:22:00.720 free standing houses there. They'll all be units of one 0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:02.439 description or another. We'll see if we can get that 0:22:02.480 --> 0:22:06.360 line fixed. Thank you, mate, can I Richard, Hello. 0:22:06.280 --> 0:22:10.359 Michael, Look, waste of money. And I just want to 0:22:10.440 --> 0:22:15.399 draw Malcolm Davis from the Australian Strategic Policy Institute, public 0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:19.280 funded organization which has been around for decades, gives advice 0:22:19.320 --> 0:22:22.960 to governments of war persuasions about strategic but essentially they're 0:22:23.000 --> 0:22:27.159 about matter and in the defense force, Malcolm Davis is 0:22:27.359 --> 0:22:32.320 absolutely correct. The Prime Minister Albanez is absolutely incorrect and 0:22:32.359 --> 0:22:36.959 he's misleading Australians. He are hollowing out the defense defense 0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:39.920 budget for a whole range of places. And I'll give 0:22:39.920 --> 0:22:44.000 you two things. Before the action last year there was 0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:47.360 a review policy which they're still sitting on, on how 0:22:47.440 --> 0:22:51.560 much Sapless defense land they want to sell to fund 0:22:52.160 --> 0:22:56.840 not to fund defense, but to fund there. They're drunken 0:22:56.880 --> 0:23:01.600 saloh seventeen billion dollars for students whose for students who 0:23:01.600 --> 0:23:06.800 have been subsidized for thirteen years on the public education system. 0:23:06.800 --> 0:23:08.960 And then a pair of three or five what about 0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:10.879 the rest of the people. We're going to flood zone 0:23:11.119 --> 0:23:14.040 eight hundred kilometers up the coastline, and who's going to 0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:17.920 talk about diets to dams and other stuff to try 0:23:17.920 --> 0:23:20.159 and minimize that type of thing. But I want to 0:23:20.200 --> 0:23:23.359 come back to the defense. Malcolm Davis talked about the 0:23:23.440 --> 0:23:26.080 holing out of the AF of the ADF. 0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:27.760 I go further. 0:23:28.200 --> 0:23:32.359 If you read the late Senator Moland's book about danger 0:23:32.400 --> 0:23:37.879 on their doorstep, about the capacity industrially and commercially, we 0:23:38.000 --> 0:23:42.680 are about to commit one of the greatest administrative mal administration, 0:23:42.760 --> 0:23:48.240 I say, criminal decisions between the Men's government, Premier Men's 0:23:48.760 --> 0:23:53.960 John Graham and Paul Scully and Tims and others in 0:23:54.000 --> 0:23:58.200 the Attorney General in the sell off of Green Island 0:23:58.760 --> 0:24:03.320 that day. Why shouldn't this concerns you and every person 0:24:03.359 --> 0:24:07.400 here in Sydney because once that's brow on that shipping operation, 0:24:08.359 --> 0:24:10.639 this is this has been charted by the Men's that 0:24:10.760 --> 0:24:12.520 he'll have a look at it now because he didn't 0:24:12.520 --> 0:24:15.440 get Rose Bay, rose Hill, so he wants to put 0:24:15.440 --> 0:24:18.680 a whole lot of townhouses on there. Well, here's here 0:24:18.720 --> 0:24:22.600 it is for you people and for the politicians. I'm 0:24:22.600 --> 0:24:25.720 not the only one read the report. There's the didn't 0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:29.320 review on Thursday, page three, a picture of the shop. 0:24:29.680 --> 0:24:34.040 Everybody's opposed to it, the port tourism everybody. 0:24:33.600 --> 0:24:36.640 Well just on that one, Richard, I don't think, well 0:24:36.840 --> 0:24:38.960 put it this way I've looked at it. From what 0:24:39.000 --> 0:24:41.080 I understand, it isn't yet going ahead. I mean, there's 0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:43.600 there's talk about, yes, we could convert that to towers 0:24:43.640 --> 0:24:45.720 and houses and take the commerciality away. 0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:46.399 But I agree with you. 0:24:46.440 --> 0:24:48.119 If you got rid of that, you're hollowing out the 0:24:48.119 --> 0:24:49.399 industrial core of your city. 0:24:49.600 --> 0:24:50.040 Crazy. 0:24:50.760 --> 0:24:52.240 Now they's oh, you we can just move it down 0:24:52.280 --> 0:24:54.200 to Port Kembla or move it to Newcastle or something 0:24:54.280 --> 0:24:56.880 like that. We'll bring it all in on trucks and trains, 0:24:56.920 --> 0:24:59.480 and but I think that's playing toy soldiers. I think 0:24:59.520 --> 0:25:02.240 what we've got to do is have some industrial base 0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:05.040 in the city, and that includes your concrete and cement 0:25:05.080 --> 0:25:09.400 facilities and whatever that's already there. So the problem is, 0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:12.000 as you well appreciate, because we've spoken many many times Richard, 0:25:12.000 --> 0:25:17.120 as you know, we have this imbalance between the number 0:25:17.119 --> 0:25:19.240 of people wanting to live in Sydney and the ability 0:25:19.280 --> 0:25:22.560 to house them. And so you're trying to squeeze things 0:25:22.560 --> 0:25:25.440 in left, right and center. But at some point, at 0:25:25.440 --> 0:25:27.320 some point, someone in government's got to say, right, no 0:25:27.359 --> 0:25:30.840 more of that. We've got to keep some industrial work 0:25:30.880 --> 0:25:33.400 in the center of the city. We've got to diversify 0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:37.080 the suburbs and the industrial footprint of the city. You 0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:39.240 can't just have a big housing circle and then have 0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:41.639 everything on the fringe. It just won't work. Thank you 0:25:41.720 --> 0:25:44.280 for your call. As always, Richard, it is twenty one 0:25:44.280 --> 0:25:46.520 to one. Will take a break. We'll keep this conversation 0:25:46.600 --> 0:25:49.040 of planning going after the break with an expert in 0:25:49.080 --> 0:25:52.080 the field. All right, Well, now that the rose Hill 0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:54.480 proposal is dead, as we've been discussing, Crispin's and his 0:25:54.560 --> 0:25:56.399 government are going to have to find other ways to 0:25:56.440 --> 0:25:58.679 bring new housing into Sydney. That's going to be I 0:25:58.680 --> 0:26:00.879 think what they're measured on now they are elected with 0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:03.320 this push for more density across the city, something that 0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:07.200 many understand is required. But News Today suggests that a 0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:10.040 development at BLACKWALLLL Bay, just over the back here, the 0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:11.880 site of the old Sydney Fish Market as it will 0:26:11.920 --> 0:26:14.720 be very soon, could see even more apartments added. Now 0:26:14.760 --> 0:26:17.359 the sites already you marked for twelve hundred apartments, this 0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:20.000 as part of a mixed use precinct or something, but 0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:24.600 that could become fifteen hundred because of the spill on 0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:28.240 spill through pressure from the Rosehill No go, that's just 0:26:28.280 --> 0:26:28.760 one idea. 0:26:28.800 --> 0:26:29.760 There's also talk. 0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:32.040 About adding more at Sydney Olympic Park and elsewhere. But 0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:34.280 as I've been saying, are we putting in all the 0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:40.120 requisite planning around just ticking the target boxes for more apartments. 0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:42.600 You've got to be able to have the water pressure available, 0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:44.560 You've got to have the electricity available, and beyond that, 0:26:44.560 --> 0:26:48.159 you've got to have additional hospital beds, public school rooms 0:26:48.200 --> 0:26:50.679 available for the new students that are going to be 0:26:50.680 --> 0:26:53.120 moving into the area. You've got to have provision for parking. 0:26:53.200 --> 0:26:56.440 Even though they are closely aligned with public transport hubs, 0:26:56.440 --> 0:26:58.280 we know everyone's still going to have a car. This 0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:00.240 fantasy that people are only going to get around in 0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:04.360 metro trains and light rail, it's just that fantasy. It's 0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:06.080 not the real world. So you've got to have all 0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:08.399 of these things as part of the story. And a 0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:10.760 number of people that speak to me in this space say, 0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:14.560 we just don't have that whole story finalized. Well, I 0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:17.119 wanted to turn to an expert who studies this. Sebastian 0:27:17.200 --> 0:27:20.440 Fouch is a professor of urban planning and management at 0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:23.440 the Western Sydny Universities with me. Sebastian, thank you for 0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:23.880 your time. 0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:25.119 Hallo. 0:27:25.320 --> 0:27:27.480 Michael Now just on that issue. 0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:31.000 There's obviously enormous and it seems increasing pressure just to 0:27:31.080 --> 0:27:35.480 build apartments and try to deal with the imbalance between 0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:37.960 supply and demand in housing. But do we have the 0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:41.919 same urgency brewing below the surface to build all of 0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:45.080 the other things that I just described that are required 0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:47.920 to make life in those apartments practical. 0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:52.640 You mentioned transport, and I think that's a very good 0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:56.800 point to start when you look elsewhere, how do other 0:27:56.840 --> 0:28:01.720 cities manage this kind of increase and their density. So 0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:06.359 looking at density in Sydney, we have about when you 0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:09.960 take Greater Sydney about five hundred, give or take five 0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:12.840 hundred people per square kilometers. You go to Paris or 0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:14.960 London and you find that they have more than five 0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:19.160 thousand per square kilometer, So there is a huge difference. 0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:23.120 We're still very much flat and wide in Sydney and 0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:26.600 compared to that in the inner Sydney area we have 0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:29.640 twenty two train stations and you go to Paris or London. 0:28:29.960 --> 0:28:33.560 Paris has about two hundred and London has about ninety. 0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:37.440 Massive difference. That means people get around in a very 0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:41.640 different fashion. And yes, we have a great car dependency. 0:28:42.040 --> 0:28:44.280 The way that we Plan Sydney so far where we 0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:46.560 just added, you know, the new suburbs in the high 0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:50.080 growth areas to the north and south. In Western Sydney, 0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:53.280 we now have all these people commuting because they're all 0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:56.840 car dependent, no transport there, and that means we lose 0:28:56.960 --> 0:29:00.240 about six billion, six point one billion dollars every year 0:29:00.240 --> 0:29:03.680 because people are sitting in their cars on average for 0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:06.960 a seventy minute commute. It's just crazy. 0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:06.920 To do it. 0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:09.040 That just to a drop, that's six point one billion. 0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:12.320 That's the financial equivalent of the lost productivity. 0:29:11.720 --> 0:29:12.480 Is it? Yes? 0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:15.840 Yes? And then on top of that in Western Sydney, 0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:20.000 we recently had a report coming out that calculated how 0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:22.120 much money we're losing because of the extreme heat in 0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:25.960 Western Sydney. Part of what we're studying, and currently we're 0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:30.040 losing one point four billion dollars every year because of 0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:33.000 extreme heat in Western Sydney, projected to be more than 0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:36.000 six billion dollars by twenty seventy. So we are not 0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:39.560 only putting people in an area where they have long 0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:42.400 commutes where we lose a lot of money, but also 0:29:42.440 --> 0:29:45.920 in an area where because of the climate impact, we're 0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:50.120 having particularly productivity and health costs that are going skyrocket. 0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:53.440 We're losing again. And this is of course all funding. 0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:55.960 If you think of a city scale, this is funding 0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:59.000 that is not available to build new hospitals and new schools, 0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:01.720 and it's not a to build new roles or look 0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:05.400 after our row network and build new transport options. It's 0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:07.320 really that kind of scare that we need to look 0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:07.880 at Sydney. 0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:11.160 Okay, Now, the transport very important, as you've outlined, and 0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:13.400 that the equivalence with London and Paris is is certainly 0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:15.800 very telling. But equally Paris in London don't tend to 0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:18.320 have a lot of people living on cordaga blocks. We do, 0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:22.000 and that's one of the things that endears people to 0:30:22.080 --> 0:30:24.360 the lifestyle of Sydney. I mean, if you want to 0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:25.560 go and live in a flat, well, there's a lot 0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:27.120 of cities around the work and live in a flat, 0:30:27.160 --> 0:30:29.680 but this is one of those great global cities where 0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:31.160 you can still have a block of land and have 0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:32.720 a small little lauchard out in the back and the 0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:35.160 kids can run around and kick a ball. And maybe 0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:38.400 that's why Australians punch above our weight in sport and all. 0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:40.760 I mean there are great health benefits to that So 0:30:42.400 --> 0:30:44.400 I guess what I'm asking is is it possible to 0:30:44.440 --> 0:30:45.560 have your cake and eat it too? 0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:48.920 Yes, that's a very very good question. And what's the 0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:51.960 silver bullet to solve that. I guess you have on 0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:55.080 your program talked already about the Nimby's and the indies, right, 0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:58.000 so not in my backyard, yees, in my backyard all 0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:02.920 of that. It's really difficult because you have a local 0:31:02.920 --> 0:31:05.960 affiliation with where you live, and if you live in 0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:08.600 an area that has quarter acre blocks, it's probably also 0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:11.600 a very green area. You go out to western Sydney, 0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:15.200 your average lot size is now down from eleven hundred 0:31:15.240 --> 0:31:17.360 square meters or one thousand square meters for your quarter 0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:21.120 acre block, down to three hundred and fifty. So there's 0:31:21.160 --> 0:31:24.080 already this massive change that many many people don't even 0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:27.239 have that luxury anymore. We forget that, but for your 0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:30.240 quarter acre block. The new South Wales government and our 0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:34.480 Planning Minister Scully has released about December twenty twenty three 0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:38.640 new regulation that allows you now to subdivide residential blocks 0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:41.640 larger than four hundred and fifty square meters. So this 0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:43.800 is now happening because these are the blocks where you 0:31:43.840 --> 0:31:46.120 have a nice big garden, and now you can chop 0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:47.760 off the garden. Of course, the first thing that will 0:31:47.760 --> 0:31:50.560 go are the trees, so we will we will very 0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:52.960 much struggle to keep up with tree canopy cover that 0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:55.880 keeps us cool and green and nice. In a city 0:31:55.880 --> 0:32:00.640 that starts to densify where we only look at division, 0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:04.640 second house, third house on residential blocks, we really need 0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:07.400 to look at smart density, and that means vertical density. 0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:09.360 There's no way, there's no way around it. You're quite right, 0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:10.560 there's no way around it. But it's got to be 0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:14.000 done right. And so near me there's a proposal to 0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:16.560 put all these towers up where the average house is 0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:18.440 probably one and a half stories high. As far as 0:32:18.480 --> 0:32:20.960 the eye can see, they'll stick out like for now, 0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:22.960 but you know, in fifty years time the whole area 0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:25.280 could look like Shanghai. So who knows, right, but for 0:32:25.360 --> 0:32:28.320 now they'll look really strange. But as far as I'm aware, 0:32:28.320 --> 0:32:30.240 in the local mayors tells me that there's there's really 0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:34.080 no additional plans for additional schools or hospital beds or 0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:34.960 open spaces. 0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:36.760 They just want to put the towers up. 0:32:37.640 --> 0:32:40.200 That's where it becomes really important to look at the 0:32:40.200 --> 0:32:43.560 amenity that you provide, want to densify. There's a lot 0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:45.800 of work that the Committee for Sydney has put forward 0:32:46.080 --> 0:32:48.880 since twenty sixteen actually, so it's not a new thing, 0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:54.880 but they have talked about smart density or density that works, 0:32:55.400 --> 0:32:59.040 where you do have your eye at the beginning, not 0:32:59.080 --> 0:33:01.800 only at the towers, but at everything else that you 0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:05.160 need to provide as public space, as services and amenities. 0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:06.040 But are we doing that? 0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:08.880 I guess that's the point of this conversation from your expertise. 0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:10.080 Are we doing that? 0:33:10.800 --> 0:33:13.320 No, at the moment, I can't see that we're doing 0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:17.640 it properly. The new metro is great, we need five 0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:22.680 new metros to make this work really well. The densification 0:33:22.880 --> 0:33:27.120 that you see the TOD Transport Oriented Development released from 0:33:27.120 --> 0:33:30.680 the Men's government, where we have eight hubs where run 0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:34.880 in your stations in the radius of twelve hundred meters 0:33:35.160 --> 0:33:41.120 you will have identification. There are proposals attached to that 0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:44.000 that will give you one new park, or they give 0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:50.480 you additional shopping opportunities. But the really important public infrastructure, 0:33:50.560 --> 0:33:55.200 the bigger library, the additional hospital, or new childcare centers 0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:58.320 are not part of these plans, at least not for 0:33:58.440 --> 0:34:02.480 my visibility that the problem that it's really the problem. 0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:02.880 That's right. 0:34:02.920 --> 0:34:05.360 I'm glad you confirmed that because anecdotally that's what I've 0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:08.040 been told. We'll keep the conversation going at another time. 0:34:08.120 --> 0:34:11.759 It's not going anywhere, as I'm sure you're quite familiar with, Sebastian. 0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:13.399 Thank you for your insight. I appreciate it. 0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:16.799 Thank you well the best, Professor Sebastian Fouch there from 0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:18.560 the Western Sydney University. 0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:19.960 Thank you so much for your company. 0:34:19.960 --> 0:34:23.760 You're so much feedback pouring in, Diane says Can Barns 0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:25.560 in the New suburbs at a love four hundred and 0:34:25.560 --> 0:34:27.800 fifty square meters blocks, we're down to under three hundred 0:34:27.840 --> 0:34:30.880 only trees on site of the small amounts on the 0:34:30.920 --> 0:34:34.200 government ground. That's from Diane. Paul says in the Padstow area, 0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:36.640 the oldest structures of the train station in the public school. 0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:40.000 We've got to build the infrastructure before we build the houses. Now, 0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:42.319 by the way, have a listen out when you hear 0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:44.160 this bit of music. 0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:54.920 A bit of Elvin John and Mulberry Wine. When you 0:34:54.920 --> 0:34:56.480 hear that, in the next hour. 0:34:56.400 --> 0:34:58.200 I need you to call that open line and you 0:34:58.280 --> 0:35:02.520 will be our fifth and final contestant into the barrel 0:35:02.760 --> 0:35:04.920 or the bottle or I think it's a box actually, 0:35:05.320 --> 0:35:07.800 and we'll be drawing the winner of the National Wine 0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:11.080 Festival Prize, one heck of a prize, accommodation and tickets, 0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:13.839 the whole shebang in the final hour. 0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:14.920 But you'll hear that little bit of. 0:35:14.920 --> 0:35:18.040 Elton John in the next hour when you hear it 0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:20.720 straight on that open line, and you'll be number five 0:35:20.920 --> 0:35:24.080 into the draw to win. By the way, Commonwealth Bank 0:35:24.120 --> 0:35:26.799 App customers, we're told there's a bit of an issue there. 0:35:26.800 --> 0:35:28.919 The bank's released a statement saying we're working to fix 0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:33.040 an issue affecting transfers from your accounts. You may be 0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:35.799 unable to make transfers between your accounts or pay someone 0:35:35.880 --> 0:35:39.080 using pay ID or BSB. An account number in net 0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:41.800 bank and the comm Bank app will keep you posted. 0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:44.279 I think I said mulberry wine. I think it's elderberry wine, 0:35:44.320 --> 0:35:45.520 isn't it. Apologies for that. 0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:52.240 News is next now onto GB and Network stations, back 0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:54.880 to afternoons with Michael McLaren. 0:35:57.400 --> 0:36:00.239 Thank you, let's get into our number two. Nice your 0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:02.919 company on this beautiful Friday. Actually this is turning out 0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:05.520 second last day of May one three one eight seven three. 0:36:05.600 --> 0:36:06.560 The open line number. 0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:11.960 Just at the Bradfield recount, Giselle Capterian three votes in front. 0:36:12.680 --> 0:36:15.399 I think at one point yesterday she had a rather 0:36:15.480 --> 0:36:20.080 slender margin of one. So she's improved that significantly to 0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:22.600 three today at this point. But it's going to be very, 0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:25.839 very tight all the way through. Now, Look, I will 0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:29.319 profess the following topic. I have no expertise in whatsoever, 0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:34.000 but the team here suggested I raise this with you, 0:36:34.960 --> 0:36:38.360 not because you may have expertise, but we will branch 0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:41.000 you will understand what I'm saying this second. We will 0:36:41.040 --> 0:36:44.480 branch this out into a broader talk topic about dating 0:36:44.960 --> 0:36:49.720 and heights. But there's a story here that says that Tinder, 0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:54.960 which helped popularize a modern dating culture that puts looks first. 0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:58.640 So the story says, now the app is trying out 0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:00.799 a new way to capitalize on This is a part 0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:08.919 of a test select Tender Gold and Tender Platinum subscribers. 0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:11.799 There's such a thing Tender Gold, and then there is 0:37:12.280 --> 0:37:16.520 and then Tinder Platinum. It sounds like a frequent flyer scheme. 0:37:16.920 --> 0:37:20.120 Frequent something scame. Anyway, they'll be able to set a 0:37:20.120 --> 0:37:24.680 preferred height range for matches that they receive in the app. 0:37:24.680 --> 0:37:27.920 This is according to something called tech Crunch. The feature 0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:32.480 was first spotted by a Reddit user what Isn't who 0:37:32.560 --> 0:37:37.280 noticed that the option in the app's discovery settings was there. Okay, 0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:40.600 so the point of this is apparently tender instead of 0:37:40.719 --> 0:37:42.640 I mean, I don't know that you can filter I 0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:45.360 suppose this, or that you like this. You don't like that, 0:37:45.719 --> 0:37:49.520 you know. But now there's a thing, apparently for the 0:37:49.560 --> 0:37:54.480 Golden Platinum subscribers, where they can put in a preferred 0:37:54.520 --> 0:37:57.840 height range. Was this something that ever sort of bothered you? 0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:02.000 I think I think taller women. I think taller women 0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:05.040 maybe this is something for them. I don't think, you know, 0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:08.320 I think, you know, I don't know if the taller 0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:10.319 ladies like having shorter men. 0:38:10.880 --> 0:38:13.560 I don't know. Is that I just get that feeling. 0:38:13.600 --> 0:38:15.839 You hear that anecdotally that if the other woman, say, 0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:21.080 six foot, maybe they're not instantly drawn to a man 0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:24.239 that's five foot one. I don't know's that's what you hear. 0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:27.520 I don't think it matters so much for the men, 0:38:28.000 --> 0:38:30.919 because on average, the man is taller than the woman, right, 0:38:30.960 --> 0:38:34.719 But anyway, particularly for the ladies listening, if you're a 0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:38.440 tall lady. Was this something when you were on the 0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:41.600 on the dating scene? Is this something that was of 0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:45.000 concern to you that the bloke might be too short? 0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:48.400 Or would that just be being too picky? One three, one, eight, 0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:51.759 seven to three. Anyway, the story goes on. I don't 0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:54.000 think we need all of the details, but there you go. 0:38:54.320 --> 0:38:57.880 Now for those considering a little bit of a European 0:38:57.920 --> 0:39:00.560 summer holiday and they might want to taken the joys Turkey, 0:39:01.400 --> 0:39:04.719 be warned when the plane lands at anchor or Istanbul, 0:39:05.320 --> 0:39:08.600 don't get out of your seat before the seat belt 0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:11.360 light goes off, because if you do, you may be 0:39:11.520 --> 0:39:16.080 financially penalized. Reporting the ap suggesting the passengers on flights 0:39:16.080 --> 0:39:19.280 to Turkey who unbuckle their seat belts, enter an aisle 0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:23.120 or open those overhead compartments before the plane has stopped 0:39:23.120 --> 0:39:28.400 taxing upon arrival eligible for fines under new regulations issued 0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:31.880 by the country's Civil Aviation Authority. Now, under the updated rules, 0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:36.120 commercial airlines operating flights in Turkey are required to revise 0:39:36.200 --> 0:39:40.880 their standard in flight announcements, telling passengers to remain seated 0:39:41.360 --> 0:39:44.640 with seat belts fastened until the aircraft has reached a 0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:50.200 gate or other final stopping point. Now this, I've got 0:39:50.239 --> 0:39:52.080 to say, this is one that annoys me. You know, 0:39:52.360 --> 0:39:56.080 flying occasionally you do a long haul flight, the first 0:39:56.080 --> 0:39:57.520 thing you do want is you want to get up, 0:39:57.560 --> 0:39:58.719 You want to get out of the tube, or I 0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:00.399 just want to get out of there, get to the tar, 0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:02.239 make getting the tax, you can get to your destination. 0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:03.279 You know you've had enough. 0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:06.719 You've been in the air confined for the better part 0:40:06.760 --> 0:40:09.160 of probably if you're flying to Europe in a plane itself, 0:40:09.160 --> 0:40:11.640 for probably twenty one hours, and then you've got the 0:40:11.640 --> 0:40:15.000 stop over and all, you've had enough. But why is 0:40:15.040 --> 0:40:20.600 it that the moment, the moment the plane has hit 0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:24.360 that sort of that slow roll as it were, into 0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:28.560 the into the terminal area, there's always a phalanx of 0:40:28.560 --> 0:40:30.200 people that get up straight away and jump up and 0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:32.640 start opening up the lot. Why do they do it? Like, 0:40:32.680 --> 0:40:34.480 what's the rush? The point is, you're not going to 0:40:34.480 --> 0:40:37.560 get out the door any faster than anybody else. And 0:40:37.600 --> 0:40:41.760 particularly in an economy, what's the rush? First class goes first, 0:40:42.040 --> 0:40:45.440 then business class goes, and then premium economy goes your last. 0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:47.279 It doesn't matter if you've got your bag on you 0:40:47.400 --> 0:40:50.080 or not your last and yet they do it. 0:40:50.200 --> 0:40:53.200 Why, Like there's some strange psychology there. I don't know. 0:40:53.239 --> 0:40:54.160 I can't quite work it out. 0:40:54.400 --> 0:40:57.920 If you want to study human beings, the best place 0:40:57.960 --> 0:40:59.920 to do it to study the weird and the one 0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:02.840 for is it an airport. I mean, if you go 0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:05.920 to an airport, you do it. Send me frequently people 0:41:06.000 --> 0:41:08.040 watch because it's a really interesting. 0:41:07.760 --> 0:41:08.120 Thing to do. 0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:13.480 You know, you see the inner workings of the human 0:41:13.560 --> 0:41:20.000 brain on display frequently at an airport check in. Yeah, 0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:23.120 it's the psychology of how do I get the upgrade? 0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:24.239 How do I. 0:41:24.040 --> 0:41:28.000 Make myself more important to this airline than the porschemuck 0:41:28.080 --> 0:41:30.120 behind me in the queue, let alone the other seventy 0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:33.880 five people waiting to get their ticket. So, you know, 0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:36.680 some people put on a collared shirt. Doesn't work, apparently. 0:41:37.480 --> 0:41:40.680 Some people say I've got a child, and you know 0:41:40.680 --> 0:41:42.320 a lot of people have children. That's not kidding. 0:41:42.640 --> 0:41:43.719 You just watch what goes on. 0:41:43.920 --> 0:41:45.680 And then as soon as people actually get on the 0:41:45.719 --> 0:41:47.399 plane and they've got the allocated seat in the rest 0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:49.879 of it, you know there will be at least half 0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:52.080 a dozen on a big on a big A three eight, 0:41:52.120 --> 0:41:55.120 or at least half a doesn't that try it on? 0:41:56.160 --> 0:41:56.400 You know. 0:41:56.560 --> 0:42:00.520 Oh look I'm not sure I like this seat. I 0:42:00.520 --> 0:42:04.080 don't think it suits me. Could you bump me up 0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:05.520 to the business seat? 0:42:05.640 --> 0:42:05.839 You know. 0:42:07.120 --> 0:42:09.080 No, they're not going to do it, you. 0:42:09.040 --> 0:42:11.919 Know, And there's there's always people. I've got a reason 0:42:11.960 --> 0:42:14.040 I'm more important than this. But you just watch people 0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:17.959 at an airport. It's fascinating how everybody thinks they're an earl, 0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:19.200 you know, or a lord. 0:42:19.560 --> 0:42:21.279 It's quite quite interesting if you do it. 0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:23.239 But back to Turkey, I don't know how they're going 0:42:23.280 --> 0:42:26.920 to enforce this because let's say some people get up 0:42:26.960 --> 0:42:29.640 and they start taking their bags out, and the announcement's 0:42:29.640 --> 0:42:31.920 been said, Look you've got to stay put until the 0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:32.680 light goes off. 0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:34.239 And I mean, what are they going to do? 0:42:34.400 --> 0:42:39.960 Have some Turkish authority come on and issue them a fine? 0:42:40.120 --> 0:42:42.960 And I mean maybe maybe it's more a threat. 0:42:42.680 --> 0:42:45.200 Than a follow through, but it'll be interesting to see 0:42:45.200 --> 0:42:49.480 if it catches on, because there are safety issues involved 0:42:49.520 --> 0:42:51.200 at the end of the day. But maybe you can 0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:53.160 answer this question for me one three one eight seven 0:42:53.239 --> 0:42:56.520 three when when the plane starts the sort of it's 0:42:56.520 --> 0:43:00.120 pulled up at the at the at the terminal, but 0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:03.600 the lights still on. The seat belt light is still 0:43:03.640 --> 0:43:06.839 activated as soon as the plane stops. Why to half 0:43:06.840 --> 0:43:09.439 a dozen at least jump up straight away and grab 0:43:09.480 --> 0:43:09.759 the bag. 0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:10.480 Why do they do it? 0:43:11.440 --> 0:43:13.359 I mean, all they're doing is going to nurse their 0:43:13.440 --> 0:43:17.799 bag for a long time on their lap. I don't 0:43:17.880 --> 0:43:21.040 understand that psychology. One three, one eight seven three the 0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:22.920 open line number. It's a quarter past one. Oh, you 0:43:23.000 --> 0:43:25.120 just never know who's listening. Ross out there has just said, 0:43:25.120 --> 0:43:27.160 oh my goodness, you just covered all my major gripes 0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:30.040 in one hit housing population. Why people have to stand 0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:31.480 up and cue to get out as soon as a 0:43:31.520 --> 0:43:33.720 plane lands. Now, if you can just cover Chris Bowen 0:43:33.960 --> 0:43:37.520 being incompetent in his role, that'd be the trifecta. Hey, Ross, 0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:39.239 you might be in lucky a little later on. 0:43:39.280 --> 0:43:40.160 You just stay listening. 0:43:40.400 --> 0:43:42.279 Stayed listening, by the way, also, because as soon as 0:43:42.320 --> 0:43:44.560 you hear that little bit of Elton John music onto 0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:46.480 the open line, you go one three, one eight seven 0:43:46.560 --> 0:43:49.080 three designated caller. You'll be the fifth into the bottle 0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:53.120 and we'll draw that wonderful Wine Festival prize in the 0:43:53.160 --> 0:43:57.200 final hour Today, Michael suggests the reason people jump up 0:43:57.239 --> 0:43:59.000 on the planes as early as to give radio host 0:43:59.040 --> 0:43:59.680 something to discuss. 0:43:59.719 --> 0:44:02.680 Court. I think it's probably valid point. 0:44:02.920 --> 0:44:05.759 Mind you, I'm not quite as bad as Mark Lever, 0:44:05.880 --> 0:44:08.280 who just too as you would have heard earlier today 0:44:08.719 --> 0:44:12.800 throughout the Ultimate the ultimate talk topic that an overnight 0:44:12.800 --> 0:44:16.480 announcer would do on a very very slow winter's morning 0:44:16.520 --> 0:44:18.919 at two thirty in the morning, and he said, what's 0:44:18.960 --> 0:44:23.919 your favorite biscuit? I don't even know if I went 0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:26.040 there on eleven years of overnights, just saying. 0:44:27.239 --> 0:44:28.880 Marie says, my hubby's a pilot. 0:44:29.120 --> 0:44:31.600 There's much maneuvering to get to the gate, and just 0:44:31.680 --> 0:44:34.200 because the plane stops, it may not be in the 0:44:34.200 --> 0:44:36.480 correct gate spot and may require another half or so 0:44:36.560 --> 0:44:39.240 meter movement forward. Keep your seat belt sign on until 0:44:39.239 --> 0:44:42.080 it's turned off. If you're standing, you may be propelled 0:44:42.120 --> 0:44:44.799 forward or back, injuring yourself. In others, you won't get 0:44:44.800 --> 0:44:47.319 out of the plane any quicker true never a true word, 0:44:47.360 --> 0:44:47.839 said Marie. 0:44:47.920 --> 0:44:48.239 Thank you. 0:44:48.719 --> 0:44:51.479 Jen says there's a previous flight attendant. Emergencies can still 0:44:51.520 --> 0:44:54.400 happen in the plane once we've stopped. They should stay seated. 0:44:54.800 --> 0:44:57.520 Very important as if we need to get out on 0:44:57.560 --> 0:45:00.040 a hurry and there are bags everywhere there is. 0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:02.680 Is a massive issue. So true. 0:45:02.920 --> 0:45:05.200 Okay, Now to the ladies and the height and the 0:45:05.280 --> 0:45:07.480 dating the big issue of the day. Kate on the text, 0:45:07.480 --> 0:45:10.080 and Kate, I feel for you here, but there's not 0:45:10.160 --> 0:45:12.640 much I can do about it, she says. I'm a 0:45:12.680 --> 0:45:16.359 tall lady, and when I was looking to date, all 0:45:16.400 --> 0:45:20.160 the tall guys were already hooked up. Short ladies should 0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:23.080 be with short men as well. Otherwise the tall lady 0:45:23.080 --> 0:45:27.200 misses out and the short man misses being partnered. I 0:45:27.239 --> 0:45:30.600 hate seeing that quote unquote. I hate to see tall 0:45:30.680 --> 0:45:36.080 men with short ladies from Kate. Okay, As I said, 0:45:36.120 --> 0:45:39.400 in an ideal world, you know, so like Ordless Huxley 0:45:40.120 --> 0:45:42.759 can create it for us, that would happen, Kate. But 0:45:44.239 --> 0:45:48.440 the problem, I don't know. Maybe maybe the short ladies 0:45:48.480 --> 0:45:52.120 had great personalities and the tall guys just were after that. 0:45:52.920 --> 0:45:54.080 I don't know. I don't know. 0:45:54.440 --> 0:45:56.560 I can't answer that for you, but I understand your 0:45:56.560 --> 0:45:58.879 point and any other tall ladies out there, like Kate 0:45:58.880 --> 0:46:01.120 feeling a little myth that the guys are all taken 0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:04.120 and so you were left with the short fellas or 0:46:04.360 --> 0:46:07.239 you missed out? Is that an issue? One three, one 0:46:07.360 --> 0:46:10.040 eight seven to three. Now a lot of other texts 0:46:10.040 --> 0:46:12.440 coming through re the airlines. Patrick says, it's a very 0:46:12.480 --> 0:46:14.880 easy way to make yourself look more important with an airline. 0:46:15.000 --> 0:46:17.760 You just give them a very great deal more money. True, 0:46:18.000 --> 0:46:22.040 they'll look after you, so I'm told. Glenn says the 0:46:22.120 --> 0:46:25.640 two best psychologists in the world are an aeroplane and 0:46:25.719 --> 0:46:28.480 a motor vehicle, as they turn what appear to be 0:46:28.520 --> 0:46:34.640 perfectly normal human beings into absolute crazy nut chops. It's true, 0:46:35.239 --> 0:46:37.240 at the moment a human gets in a motor vehicle 0:46:37.640 --> 0:46:41.000 orques up to get on the flight, they become someone different. 0:46:41.800 --> 0:46:44.200 We all do, if we're being honest. We all do. 0:46:45.239 --> 0:46:49.200 But there is something odd about the psychology of an 0:46:49.200 --> 0:46:54.160 airport slash aeroplane, This self important streak that a lot 0:46:54.200 --> 0:46:57.879 of us didn't know. We had sort of ooze us out, 0:46:58.239 --> 0:47:00.719 and we think, all of a sudden, we know where 0:47:00.840 --> 0:47:03.319 Baron de rothschild or something, or we should be on 0:47:03.400 --> 0:47:05.279 that seat, or we shouldn't have to sit near that 0:47:05.360 --> 0:47:07.880 crying kid, or we should get this sort of you know, 0:47:08.120 --> 0:47:10.440 it's odd, And then we get off at the other end, 0:47:10.440 --> 0:47:12.399 do we get an attacks in we're all just equally again, 0:47:12.520 --> 0:47:15.040 We go to our two star hotel. You know, it's 0:47:15.080 --> 0:47:18.279 a really really strange thing. So keep the feedback coming 0:47:18.520 --> 0:47:21.080 zero four six zero eight seven three eight seven three. 0:47:21.120 --> 0:47:23.000 Of course you can send me an email this all 0:47:23.000 --> 0:47:26.000 today two GB dot com click on the feedback icon. 0:47:26.040 --> 0:47:28.560 Michael says, wasn't there a Seinfeld episode where George was 0:47:28.640 --> 0:47:29.479 dating a taller woman? 0:47:29.520 --> 0:47:31.960 I think there was. I think you're quite right about that. 0:47:32.480 --> 0:47:38.040 Now to the football, Steve, our Cowboys fanatic from Cans, says, 0:47:38.120 --> 0:47:42.440 tomorrow Tigers v. Cowboys. Which one of us will be 0:47:42.480 --> 0:47:46.000 happy on Monday? Or will the Cowboys have another draw 0:47:46.239 --> 0:47:49.279 just like against the Panthers. D you to select drawer 0:47:49.320 --> 0:47:51.560 as your tip of the week. Well, look, I've got 0:47:51.600 --> 0:47:55.640 to tell you, Steve, that Chuck does my tips, as 0:47:55.680 --> 0:48:00.600 you know, and he was very very successful last week, 0:48:00.920 --> 0:48:03.000 very consistent in the sense that he got all of 0:48:03.040 --> 0:48:06.960 them wrong. So this week he's tipped the Cowboys. 0:48:07.480 --> 0:48:10.920 Now I don't know if I don't know if. 0:48:10.880 --> 0:48:12.600 He's going to have a breakout we can get if 0:48:12.600 --> 0:48:15.480 you're right. I don't know, but I suspect he might 0:48:15.480 --> 0:48:18.080 be right. And the Tigers have issues Lockie Galvin and 0:48:19.480 --> 0:48:21.200 that's going to muck around with them playing up in 0:48:21.280 --> 0:48:24.040 North Queensland. It'd be a pretty special win if they 0:48:24.040 --> 0:48:26.160 can pull it off. I suspect to answer your question, Steve, 0:48:26.160 --> 0:48:28.399 you're going to be happy now. 0:48:29.280 --> 0:48:29.720 Matthew. 0:48:30.280 --> 0:48:35.160 Matthew, Matthew, what can we do for Matthew? He simply says, 0:48:35.200 --> 0:48:37.520 I can't get tall or short. 0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:41.960 That's sad. Can we send Matthew scarf? Can we do that? 0:48:43.520 --> 0:48:46.360 So if you, Matthew, if you have an open Marino 0:48:46.480 --> 0:48:50.960 scarf around that neck of yours, tall, short, average, they'll 0:48:51.000 --> 0:48:55.120 all be keen to talk. You could have the dullest 0:48:55.160 --> 0:48:57.960 personality on the planet, but if you've got an open 0:48:58.000 --> 0:49:00.799 Marino scarf, the lady will notice you. 0:49:02.719 --> 0:49:11.080 I've heard people say that too much of anything, Matthew. 0:49:11.520 --> 0:49:13.319 Matthew's not getting too much of anything by the sid 0:49:13.360 --> 0:49:16.200 of thing. So he begs to differ. Matthew, we've got 0:49:16.200 --> 0:49:18.640 your details. You are going to be receiving in the 0:49:18.640 --> 0:49:22.719 mail an opal Marino scarf. They offer elegant and contemporary 0:49:22.760 --> 0:49:25.920 scarves in apparel for all occasions, including date night. Search 0:49:25.920 --> 0:49:28.560 Oprah Marino to find the perfect scarf for you and Matthew. 0:49:28.640 --> 0:49:31.359 As soon as you start to what would we say 0:49:31.400 --> 0:49:33.920 in the modern parlons. As soon as the swipe wrights 0:49:33.960 --> 0:49:36.799 start happening, you've got to let us know so that 0:49:36.880 --> 0:49:40.080 the magic of the open Marino scarf comes true. One 0:49:40.160 --> 0:49:43.000 three one eight seven three the open line number. Now, 0:49:43.280 --> 0:49:45.600 this one comes a great surprise. New ABS dart are 0:49:45.600 --> 0:49:49.480 out confirming that the federal government's failure on housing is real. 0:49:50.040 --> 0:49:53.720 New housing approvals have slipped further behind the National Housing 0:49:53.800 --> 0:49:57.640 Accord targets. The IPA have crunched the numbers. As they 0:49:57.680 --> 0:49:59.960 say here, the Accord has failed to deliver the level 0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:06.200 of new houses promised for the tenth consecutive month. Now 0:50:06.400 --> 0:50:10.680 the ABS numbers today and there for the approval data 0:50:10.880 --> 0:50:13.560 to April twenty twenty five revealed that just fourteen thousand, 0:50:13.600 --> 0:50:16.640 six hundred and thirty three new dwellings were approved. Approvals 0:50:16.680 --> 0:50:21.319 were granted in April. That's a six percent decline from 0:50:21.360 --> 0:50:25.120 the previous month. Dwelling approvals in April were five thousand, 0:50:25.320 --> 0:50:29.880 three hundred and sixty seven units, twenty seven percent below 0:50:30.719 --> 0:50:35.160 the government's monthly minimum delivery target under the Accord. Now 0:50:35.200 --> 0:50:37.959 some would say, oh, there's still time, but time's running out. 0:50:38.760 --> 0:50:41.280 And with every month that you're well below the target 0:50:41.320 --> 0:50:42.759 of the accord, You've obviously got to make it up 0:50:42.760 --> 0:50:45.680 in the next month or subsequent months. It gets harder 0:50:45.680 --> 0:50:48.200 and harder. Now, the culative shortfall, I guess this is 0:50:48.200 --> 0:50:52.200 the key metric. The cumulative shortfall since the beginning of 0:50:52.239 --> 0:50:56.680 the accord in July twenty four is now forty five thousand, 0:50:56.960 --> 0:51:02.640 seven hundred and eleven. In other words, two rose Hill developments. Right, 0:51:03.080 --> 0:51:06.920 that's to date and counting. Now, if the later shortfall 0:51:06.960 --> 0:51:09.799 is replicated and the remaining two months of June twenty five, 0:51:10.600 --> 0:51:13.880 the National Housing Accord will have missed its target by 0:51:13.920 --> 0:51:16.839 more than fifty five thousand homes in just its first year. 0:51:17.719 --> 0:51:21.959 Now that's a problem, okay. And so look, some might say, 0:51:22.000 --> 0:51:24.120 I suppose a charitable person, So well, yeah, look, we 0:51:24.160 --> 0:51:25.880 don't get the million or one point two million or 0:51:25.920 --> 0:51:27.600 whatever the target one point three I think it is 0:51:27.640 --> 0:51:29.480 the target. But let's say we get eight hundred and 0:51:29.520 --> 0:51:31.520 fifty thousand. Well that's better than a poke in the eye. 0:51:31.560 --> 0:51:35.160 Well okay, but if your immigration numbers and your population 0:51:35.239 --> 0:51:40.759 growth statistics are metrics against these outcomes, then you can 0:51:40.760 --> 0:51:44.759 see what the problem's going to be. So well done 0:51:44.760 --> 0:51:46.640 to the IPA for pointing at all of that so 0:51:46.800 --> 0:51:49.759 clearly for us. But equally this is a big, big 0:51:49.760 --> 0:51:52.040 problem and it's only getting worse one three, one eight 0:51:52.120 --> 0:51:54.520 seveny three of course, now I understand this from New 0:51:54.520 --> 0:51:57.200 South Wales Police. They're appealing for public assistance to locate 0:51:57.200 --> 0:51:59.480 a man missing from Sydney's Inner East. His name is 0:51:59.480 --> 0:52:03.120 Graham len Age seventy five. He was last seen at 0:52:03.120 --> 0:52:06.760 Central train Station at about ten to twelve that's eleven 0:52:06.880 --> 0:52:10.880 fifty am on Sunday, May twenty five. Now, when he 0:52:10.920 --> 0:52:14.240 couldn't be contacted or located, officers attached to Sydney City 0:52:14.280 --> 0:52:17.840 Police Area Command would notify it. They commenced inquiries into 0:52:18.080 --> 0:52:21.440 Graham's whereabouts. Police to hold concerns for his welfare. He's 0:52:21.440 --> 0:52:24.560 described as being of Caucasian appearance, about one hundred and 0:52:24.600 --> 0:52:26.680 seventy five to one hundred and eighty five centimeters tall, 0:52:26.760 --> 0:52:31.240 large build, gray hair, and he was last seen wearing 0:52:31.239 --> 0:52:35.759 a gray T shirt, green zip jacket, black pants and 0:52:35.800 --> 0:52:38.920 a gray bucket hat. He was last seen carrying two 0:52:39.000 --> 0:52:41.600 Duffel bags and a backpack. Now he's known to frequent 0:52:41.640 --> 0:52:45.120 the Waterloo and Central areas, so anyone with information is 0:52:45.200 --> 0:52:47.160 urged to contact Sidney City Police, or of course there 0:52:47.200 --> 0:52:50.600 is crime Stoppers one eight hundred, Triple three, Triple zero, 0:52:50.719 --> 0:52:54.200 one eight hundred, triple three, triple zero. They got a 0:52:54.239 --> 0:52:55.960 lot of feedback coming through, but I might have to 0:52:55.960 --> 0:52:58.600 preread some of this because it's about dating and all 0:52:58.640 --> 0:53:00.279 of that. Will just be a little careful. It is 0:53:00.320 --> 0:53:03.319 a family program, after all. We'll take a break. It's 0:53:03.360 --> 0:53:04.239 twenty seven past one. 0:53:08.960 --> 0:53:11.160 All right, after the newsroom, we go, Iramar good after that, 0:53:11.320 --> 0:53:12.000 good afternoon. 0:53:12.000 --> 0:53:14.480 Michael, a Bonnie Rigg Heights woman, has likely saved her 0:53:14.560 --> 0:53:17.359 husband's life, waking him up as a fire broke out 0:53:17.360 --> 0:53:20.399 in their home. The couple had disconnected their smoke of arms. 0:53:20.680 --> 0:53:24.279 Pauline Hansen says she's elated with One Nation's performance in 0:53:24.320 --> 0:53:27.440 the federal election, as the party doubles its representation in 0:53:27.480 --> 0:53:30.160 the Senate from two to four seats. A sixteen year 0:53:30.160 --> 0:53:33.120 old boy's been charged over the discovery of a kill 0:53:33.200 --> 0:53:36.720 car in Sydney's West. It was Task Force Falcons first fined. 0:53:37.320 --> 0:53:41.560 And lollymaker Haribo has recalled packets of Happy Colar Fizz 0:53:41.560 --> 0:53:44.600 in the Netherlands after cannabis traces were found in some 0:53:44.680 --> 0:53:46.880 of them. In Sport, the New York Knicks have beaten 0:53:46.920 --> 0:53:48.960 the Paces one hundred and eleven to ninety four in 0:53:49.000 --> 0:53:52.239 the NBA, cutting Indiana's lead to three to two in 0:53:52.280 --> 0:53:55.320 the Eastern Conference finals. The series winner will play the 0:53:55.360 --> 0:53:57.880 Oklahoma City Thunder in the finals. And there'll be more 0:53:57.920 --> 0:54:00.959 news at two o'clock on afternoons. 0:54:01.239 --> 0:54:02.640 OH weather updates. 0:54:02.840 --> 0:54:06.799 We'll be here to help in unexpected weather. Nurmain Insurance 0:54:07.040 --> 0:54:08.000 a help company. 0:54:08.760 --> 0:54:11.319 Okay, partly cloudy in twenty for Sydney today eighteen for 0:54:11.400 --> 0:54:14.719 Terry Hills nineteen at PARAMOUNTA twenty everywhere else including Campbelltown 0:54:14.760 --> 0:54:18.040 and Bondi tomorrow. Partly cloudy in twenty and for something 0:54:18.080 --> 0:54:21.600 a little different on Sunday twenty, but mostly sunny Candra today, 0:54:21.640 --> 0:54:24.759 sunny in eighteen. Tugernong's the same. Partly cloudy tomorrow top 0:54:24.800 --> 0:54:27.759 of sixteen up to about seventeen on Sunday they reckon 0:54:27.840 --> 0:54:29.680 the morning frost in the Capitol, but the cloud will 0:54:29.680 --> 0:54:32.640 clear after that. Lethgo good day through two LT fifteen 0:54:32.680 --> 0:54:35.400 the top for you today and mostly sunny. Same at Orange, 0:54:35.480 --> 0:54:38.280 although I think it's fully sunny in Orange actually eighteen 0:54:38.320 --> 0:54:39.960 and a bitter sun and a bit of cloud at 0:54:40.000 --> 0:54:43.240 Mudgi today bath are seventeen thirteen for Katomba, but sunny 0:54:43.440 --> 0:54:46.600 and springwood partly cloudy. Top of nineteen tomorrow for Lithgo 0:54:47.000 --> 0:54:50.960 fifteen the max reasonable minimum positive for are cloud clearing 0:54:51.080 --> 0:54:53.799 and for the last day of autumn as it will be, 0:54:54.360 --> 0:54:57.680 that's tomorrow Sunday, the first day of winter officially June one. 0:54:58.239 --> 0:55:02.120 Some sun out for Lithgow top sixteen morning frost. A 0:55:02.120 --> 0:55:04.799 lot of text messages still coming through. No name on 0:55:04.840 --> 0:55:07.800 this one, but says I'm six foot six, my wife's 0:55:07.840 --> 0:55:10.080 five to two. She only married me to get things 0:55:10.080 --> 0:55:17.120 off the top shelf. Whatever works, Bruce says. Read the airports, 0:55:17.160 --> 0:55:18.799 I just wait for everyone to get off first, then 0:55:18.840 --> 0:55:20.719 I just follow them. The good part is that if 0:55:20.760 --> 0:55:22.759 I'm not familiar with the airport, I just followed the crowd. 0:55:22.800 --> 0:55:27.040 It's a win win. You're a logical man, Bruce Sharon says, 0:55:27.560 --> 0:55:30.840 flight to remember. On my flight from Athens to Cairo, 0:55:30.920 --> 0:55:34.080 the passengers are almost all Egyptian. When the captain announced 0:55:34.120 --> 0:55:37.640 we were starting our descent, every Egyptian got to their 0:55:37.680 --> 0:55:39.080 feet to retrieve the bags. 0:55:39.520 --> 0:55:40.280 They didn't even. 0:55:40.160 --> 0:55:41.920 Have to go far because most of the luggage were 0:55:41.960 --> 0:55:44.200 stacked in the aisle. They didn't check in the luggage. 0:55:44.239 --> 0:55:44.520 You see. 0:55:44.560 --> 0:55:47.400 The hostess couldn't even serve a coffee to some of 0:55:47.440 --> 0:55:49.680 the seats. She said she couldn't get the trolley down 0:55:49.719 --> 0:55:53.360 the aisle. A flight to remember, says Sharon Gene on 0:55:53.440 --> 0:55:57.320 the developments things. She says, only plan is to destroy 0:55:57.360 --> 0:55:59.600 the state. Rose Hill can still build ten thousand houses 0:55:59.600 --> 0:56:02.040 next to the course. What about Rose Bay? Sixteen beautiful 0:56:02.080 --> 0:56:04.360 houses about to be knocked down. The owners all be 0:56:04.360 --> 0:56:06.920 getting a stack. The developers will get rich. This is 0:56:06.920 --> 0:56:09.399 from Rick, he says. In regard to standing up early 0:56:09.480 --> 0:56:11.440 to get your bag out of the overhead locker on 0:56:11.480 --> 0:56:14.000 a plane, he says, I love it. How when you 0:56:14.080 --> 0:56:17.120 go to the carousel, those very same clowns are the 0:56:17.160 --> 0:56:19.000 ones waiting for their checked in luggage. 0:56:19.120 --> 0:56:20.440 Yeah, they rush. 0:56:20.280 --> 0:56:22.279 Everywhere with these people, and yet they don't get out 0:56:22.320 --> 0:56:22.799 before you. 0:56:23.680 --> 0:56:25.440 I just anyway, I don't know. 0:56:25.480 --> 0:56:28.080 I mean, it's you know, when you fly economy and 0:56:28.120 --> 0:56:30.560 you as most of us do, and you just watch 0:56:30.560 --> 0:56:33.080 all of this from an anthropological point of view. I know, 0:56:33.200 --> 0:56:35.960 I feel like David Attenburg watching like the Great Migration. 0:56:36.120 --> 0:56:40.080 It just it's a bizarre, absurd Yeah, don't they understand 0:56:40.160 --> 0:56:42.239 the people that pay twenty five thousand dollars for a ticket, 0:56:42.239 --> 0:56:45.000 who are sitting up there near the captain, their bag 0:56:45.040 --> 0:56:47.080 comes out first at the carousel as well, you know, like, 0:56:47.760 --> 0:56:50.799 don't run. It doesn't matter how quickly you get there. 0:56:51.080 --> 0:56:53.080 It's not a game of British Bulldog or something. You know, 0:56:53.320 --> 0:56:55.319 it's all worked out based off how much you paid 0:56:55.360 --> 0:56:58.680 for your ticket. Anyway, maybe one day the message will 0:56:58.680 --> 0:57:01.360 get through again, maybe it won't, and if it doesn't, 0:57:01.400 --> 0:57:08.319 we can always just enjoy watching it. Oh okay, well 0:57:08.360 --> 0:57:10.640 there you go. That's the cuter call. I need call 0:57:10.680 --> 0:57:13.360 a number ten today. Please call a number ten to 0:57:13.480 --> 0:57:16.760 the open line one three, one eight seven three, and 0:57:16.920 --> 0:57:19.400 if that's you, well then you're going to go into 0:57:19.400 --> 0:57:22.880 the draw for this wonderful, wonderful, wonderful trip to Canberra 0:57:22.920 --> 0:57:26.600 for the National Wine Festival. As I said, we've got 0:57:26.600 --> 0:57:29.520 accommodation for you, we've got tickets to the show, the 0:57:29.560 --> 0:57:32.959 whole shebang. So call a number ten on that open 0:57:33.000 --> 0:57:35.240 line one three, one eight seven three. You're our last 0:57:35.320 --> 0:57:37.240 one to go in the draw, and we will draw 0:57:37.280 --> 0:57:40.200 the lucky winner for as Extraordinary Prize, the National Wine 0:57:40.240 --> 0:57:47.880 Festival Prize in the final hour of the shows and now. 0:57:47.760 --> 0:57:52.640 The Real Estate Show thanks to Domain, Australia's trusted property marketplace. 0:57:53.720 --> 0:57:54.720 Okay, well, let's do this. 0:57:54.800 --> 0:57:56.560 We do it every Friday at about this time, the Real 0:57:56.680 --> 0:57:59.000 Estate Show with our friends at Domain and the wonderful 0:57:59.000 --> 0:58:02.040 Alie Stultz's all the numbers for us, as she does 0:58:02.400 --> 0:58:04.760 all she does all week, just crunch numbers for us. 0:58:04.880 --> 0:58:08.560 Hello Alice, good after noon, Mark, Or what an entertaining 0:58:08.600 --> 0:58:09.760 show you've had on today? 0:58:10.040 --> 0:58:11.800 You're covering all my favorite topics. 0:58:12.000 --> 0:58:14.920 Well, tall tall women dating short men and cheople at 0:58:14.960 --> 0:58:15.640 airport kills. 0:58:16.480 --> 0:58:18.400 Well, I confess to marrying a tall man and it 0:58:18.440 --> 0:58:20.320 does very much come in hand. You've got that call 0:58:20.360 --> 0:58:23.120 a set about reaching for things, and I love that 0:58:23.200 --> 0:58:25.240 idea of David Ashenbarrow doing a bit of a commentary 0:58:25.240 --> 0:58:26.680 about people getting on and off planes. 0:58:26.840 --> 0:58:29.880 It is fascinating, isn't it herd mentality. 0:58:29.280 --> 0:58:31.080 It is, the Only problem is there'd be no sort 0:58:31.120 --> 0:58:35.200 of sense of evolution having occurred, and that would miss 0:58:35.240 --> 0:58:38.200 the general thrust of David's pieces. Now, of course we 0:58:38.280 --> 0:58:40.960 normally value one or two people's properties, not this week, 0:58:41.040 --> 0:58:42.280 but got a lot of other stuff to get through. 0:58:42.280 --> 0:58:44.200 But if you do want a property valued, get in touch. 0:58:44.360 --> 0:58:46.880 Or there's a beautiful thing on the website that the 0:58:46.880 --> 0:58:48.760 team of design just fill it all out there, will 0:58:48.760 --> 0:58:51.280 send it off to domain and Bob's your uncle, or 0:58:51.280 --> 0:58:53.000 Alice as your ARTI or whatever you want to say. 0:58:53.360 --> 0:58:55.760 We'll do that next week. Now let's start as we 0:58:55.800 --> 0:58:58.840 always do, Alice with the auction results, because we had 0:58:58.840 --> 0:59:01.560 a stonking number in Sydney, didn't we It. 0:59:01.560 --> 0:59:04.200 Was a huge number last weekend Michael, nine hundred and 0:59:04.320 --> 0:59:06.680 ninety two options took place and the clearance for it 0:59:06.720 --> 0:59:10.360 came in at seventy percent. Now remember that was just 0:59:10.480 --> 0:59:13.120 after the RBA announced that decline an interest rates. So 0:59:13.160 --> 0:59:15.200 we're kind of watching what the market would do, and 0:59:15.200 --> 0:59:16.960 I've got to sell lot of the auctions be covered. 0:59:17.160 --> 0:59:19.200 You could feel a bit more, I guess, a bit 0:59:19.240 --> 0:59:21.200 more of a pep in the step from buyers. I 0:59:21.240 --> 0:59:21.920 think to. 0:59:22.000 --> 0:59:25.160 Push that little bit harder, which I'm not surprised that, 0:59:25.200 --> 0:59:26.880 but it's just interesting watching it. 0:59:27.360 --> 0:59:27.480 Now. 0:59:27.520 --> 0:59:30.240 Tomorrow we've got another big day in city. Nine hundred 0:59:30.240 --> 0:59:33.640 and sixty five houses going under the hammer, so pretty 0:59:33.640 --> 0:59:36.000 decent conditions and I dare said it could'll be the 0:59:36.080 --> 0:59:39.400 last hurrah before things before things wind back a little 0:59:39.400 --> 0:59:41.360 bit throughout the winter months ahead. 0:59:41.680 --> 0:59:44.760 Yeah, look, I don't know, just weather matter. Tomorrow it's 0:59:44.920 --> 0:59:48.160 mostly sunny. I think top of twenty nice, nice sort 0:59:48.160 --> 0:59:51.360 of last day for autumn. That helpside, imagine, rather than 0:59:51.400 --> 0:59:52.440 having thunderstorms on. 0:59:52.400 --> 0:59:55.200 The day it does. I think it does help because 0:59:55.200 --> 0:59:56.640 all of a sudden you look at these houses and 0:59:56.640 --> 1:00:01.160 they're sparkling and beautiful and sun filled and dappled, you know, dappled. 1:00:00.800 --> 1:00:01.840 Light over the gardens. 1:00:02.120 --> 1:00:04.000 And I think all that goes along while I'm letting 1:00:04.040 --> 1:00:06.440 people sort of get carried away a bit. Having said that, 1:00:06.520 --> 1:00:09.560 I have seen and myself done it, stood through torrential 1:00:09.640 --> 1:00:12.160 rain in auctions and watch bidding take place, because of 1:00:12.160 --> 1:00:14.200 course we're not talking about, you know, buying a leader 1:00:14.240 --> 1:00:16.560 of milk or not. This is the high stakes here, 1:00:16.640 --> 1:00:18.640 so people will do what it takes. And I think 1:00:18.640 --> 1:00:21.800 we're a hearty lot. But I think the sunshine does 1:00:21.840 --> 1:00:23.840 help us make the house look a bit more sparkly. 1:00:24.960 --> 1:00:27.120 That's how you want to show it. Okay, Now, the 1:00:27.200 --> 1:00:29.840 sustainability in property of report and the team of domain 1:00:29.920 --> 1:00:31.840 do this. I think every year, if I'm not mistaken, 1:00:31.880 --> 1:00:35.880 you've released it the Sustainability in Property Report. Firstly, just 1:00:35.960 --> 1:00:39.000 I mean this word sustainability is bounced around like it's 1:00:39.000 --> 1:00:41.680 going out of fashion these days, right, So what's the 1:00:41.760 --> 1:00:44.360 report about? Just give us the background first. 1:00:45.320 --> 1:00:47.360 Yeah, So basically it is banded around a lot, that 1:00:47.400 --> 1:00:49.720 word sustainability, Michael. But what we've been looking at here 1:00:49.800 --> 1:00:52.800 is how many features that are sustainable or energy efficient 1:00:53.160 --> 1:00:55.600 pop up when people are selling their houses, and do 1:00:55.680 --> 1:00:58.560 these houses sell for more that houses that don't have 1:00:58.640 --> 1:01:01.720 these features? Now, what I'm talking about things like solar panel, 1:01:01.840 --> 1:01:05.760 double glazed windows, northern orientation features like that was smart 1:01:05.840 --> 1:01:07.000 energy efficient housing. 1:01:07.320 --> 1:01:08.960 And what we've they've. 1:01:08.840 --> 1:01:11.280 Done is they've crunched the data to just see how 1:01:11.360 --> 1:01:14.720 much those listings rise to the surface in comparison to 1:01:14.880 --> 1:01:17.080 properties that don't have those features to them. 1:01:17.720 --> 1:01:18.240 That's interesting. 1:01:18.280 --> 1:01:21.600 The double glazed windows. You know, that's my wife being European. 1:01:21.640 --> 1:01:24.280 That stock standard over there, because you know, they tend 1:01:24.280 --> 1:01:26.840 to build I think a little more sensibly and practically 1:01:26.920 --> 1:01:30.800 for the variability of conditions than we have traditionally done here. 1:01:31.800 --> 1:01:33.200 But one of the first things we did when we 1:01:33.240 --> 1:01:35.720 bought our little cottage was take all the old timber 1:01:35.760 --> 1:01:42.080 windows out, put the double glazed uPVC windows in wasn't cheap, 1:01:42.160 --> 1:01:47.040 but it's made an enormous difference inside. Doesn't matter if 1:01:47.080 --> 1:01:49.360 it's the heat of summer or the cold of winter. 1:01:50.240 --> 1:01:56.320 You do get a more averaged temperature divergence inside the house. 1:01:56.360 --> 1:01:58.320 What means you can obviously your power bill can come 1:01:58.360 --> 1:01:59.480 down a bit with the heating and all that. 1:01:59.560 --> 1:02:02.240 Right, I have to say, for my money, it's probably 1:02:02.240 --> 1:02:04.280 one of my favorite features if I was going to 1:02:04.360 --> 1:02:06.440 put into something, because I think it makes such a 1:02:06.480 --> 1:02:09.200 notionable difference. What I'm talking about is that time of 1:02:09.240 --> 1:02:12.440 an evening, the lack of need to put another jumper 1:02:12.440 --> 1:02:14.280 on when it's the middle of winter, if you haven't 1:02:14.280 --> 1:02:17.640 got curtains or something. It really just makes rooms feel 1:02:17.640 --> 1:02:20.360 a lot better and as you said, evan cooler in summer. 1:02:20.400 --> 1:02:22.600 But I think the outlay is quite high. 1:02:22.640 --> 1:02:23.240 But it also is. 1:02:23.200 --> 1:02:25.439 Another great security feature. I don't know about you, Mark, 1:02:25.440 --> 1:02:27.760 but I lived in a home very old, very thin 1:02:27.840 --> 1:02:31.280 glass windows, and they would break when kids were thwacking 1:02:31.320 --> 1:02:34.440 cricket balls or tennis balls whatnot, and burglarsten get a 1:02:34.440 --> 1:02:37.280 lot more easily. Double glazing also provides that level of security. 1:02:37.320 --> 1:02:39.600 But I do just think from a sustainability point of view, 1:02:39.600 --> 1:02:42.360 it really can cut down on heating and cooling costs. 1:02:42.440 --> 1:02:44.880 The other thing is without giving the businesses that do 1:02:44.920 --> 1:02:47.120 this a plague. The other thing is it does knock 1:02:47.160 --> 1:02:48.560 a fair bit of the sound out. We're near a 1:02:48.640 --> 1:02:51.200 main road, and in the old days, with the very 1:02:51.240 --> 1:02:55.120 thin single glazed glass timber windows putty putting it all together, 1:02:55.960 --> 1:02:58.040 as soon as trucks or busses or anything went down, 1:02:58.120 --> 1:03:00.840 you could hear it. Even in the evening someone's doing 1:03:00.880 --> 1:03:03.080 some early morning work a tradees sort of ten to 1:03:03.120 --> 1:03:06.400 eight they get started, you know, you could hear it 1:03:06.600 --> 1:03:09.680 clear as a bill. It does knock probably sixty to 1:03:09.720 --> 1:03:12.400 eighty percent of the sound out, And I think. 1:03:12.240 --> 1:03:14.120 That's why when you look at medium density or even 1:03:14.160 --> 1:03:17.680 high density buildings, you're seeing how quiet they can be. Obviously, 1:03:17.680 --> 1:03:19.520 if you go out to the balcony or it's a courtyard, 1:03:19.640 --> 1:03:22.240 not so much. But when you're inside the place, it 1:03:22.320 --> 1:03:25.800 is kind of quite vacuum sealed and very quiet, which 1:03:25.840 --> 1:03:27.800 just helps with that sort of filling of the ambiance 1:03:27.840 --> 1:03:28.360 in the house. 1:03:28.400 --> 1:03:30.480 I think, Okay, so then how does all of this 1:03:30.560 --> 1:03:35.160 then translate into saleability? Because you know, let's say you 1:03:35.240 --> 1:03:38.120 are investing in all of these things. Beat the double 1:03:38.120 --> 1:03:41.600 glaze windows, the solar panels, the battery, whatever you got 1:03:41.640 --> 1:03:43.680 going right, the sustainability things. 1:03:44.240 --> 1:03:45.080 You've got to pay for it. 1:03:45.080 --> 1:03:47.120 There's government grants for certain things, but you've got to 1:03:47.120 --> 1:03:48.320 pay a lot out of your own pocket. 1:03:48.600 --> 1:03:50.080 You may not even come out in front. 1:03:50.080 --> 1:03:51.840 But if you are putting it in as part of 1:03:51.880 --> 1:03:54.360 a you know, sort of sexing up the house. 1:03:54.160 --> 1:03:58.360 For sale, how do prospective buyers view this? Is it 1:03:58.400 --> 1:03:59.360 with a premium? 1:04:00.560 --> 1:04:03.200 I think that's what's really interesting. We've gone from it 1:04:03.280 --> 1:04:05.560 being kind of a niche thing that sort of many 1:04:05.600 --> 1:04:08.840 affluent buyers would stretch or extend themselves for a sort 1:04:08.880 --> 1:04:12.400 of a luxurious element of a house being sustainable, and 1:04:12.440 --> 1:04:16.200 now we're really seeing demand across middle income homes. They're 1:04:16.200 --> 1:04:19.680 the ones really driving and demanding this sort of feature 1:04:19.720 --> 1:04:22.680 in a property. And what we're seeing in houses in 1:04:22.680 --> 1:04:26.120 those areas, those middle band suburbs in particular, other ones 1:04:26.120 --> 1:04:29.000 where demand is high for these features in a property. 1:04:29.360 --> 1:04:31.760 And you know, we're seeing in Sydney on average around 1:04:31.840 --> 1:04:34.520 twelve and a half percent more premium that people are 1:04:34.560 --> 1:04:35.040 paying for. 1:04:35.040 --> 1:04:37.080 A house with those features in it. 1:04:37.440 --> 1:04:39.760 And I think it's really largely because we've had this 1:04:39.880 --> 1:04:43.040 obviously revolting cost of living crisis, and people have now 1:04:43.080 --> 1:04:45.760 just realized that, you know, that little bit of an 1:04:45.800 --> 1:04:49.160 investment pays off for years to come in the future, 1:04:49.520 --> 1:04:51.520 and that if you are buying a house, the premium 1:04:51.520 --> 1:04:54.240 that you're paying the sustainability will be the reduction in 1:04:54.400 --> 1:04:57.600 energy bills until you then sell the house again. So 1:04:57.920 --> 1:04:59.840 I think I think people have had to through the 1:05:00.000 --> 1:05:03.080 necessity of how high inflation has been over. 1:05:03.000 --> 1:05:05.120 The fews, particularly around energy costs. 1:05:05.360 --> 1:05:06.880 You did a bit of a case study in this 1:05:07.000 --> 1:05:10.240 report about a property at Asquith up on the north 1:05:10.280 --> 1:05:12.600 of Sydney, just north ere of Hornsby. 1:05:12.840 --> 1:05:13.720 What did that uncover? 1:05:14.960 --> 1:05:17.360 Yeah, we did a tour of this incredible house there. 1:05:17.560 --> 1:05:20.080 It's what's called a passive house. That's a very it's 1:05:20.080 --> 1:05:23.320 a Germanic term that basically is a house. This is 1:05:23.360 --> 1:05:25.480 why I think of it. It sort of has lungs 1:05:25.480 --> 1:05:27.680 in the house. So what it does is it completely 1:05:27.680 --> 1:05:29.560 filters air that goes in and out of the house, 1:05:30.040 --> 1:05:32.600 and you are in this space and it feels like 1:05:32.760 --> 1:05:36.080 you are living and bear with me here under the 1:05:36.120 --> 1:05:38.800 sun on a perfect spring like day. What I mean 1:05:38.920 --> 1:05:42.840 is the temperature is constant, the air is completely filtered. 1:05:43.240 --> 1:05:46.760 It is the strangest feeling and you hear absolutely nothing. 1:05:47.680 --> 1:05:52.440 It's completely baffling how these houses work. But basically they 1:05:52.440 --> 1:05:56.080 are completely almost off the grid and require no energy 1:05:56.400 --> 1:06:00.200 to run them. They've got battery packs, soul a panel 1:06:00.560 --> 1:06:03.320 and the energy costs are basically zilch because of them 1:06:03.360 --> 1:06:06.440 maintaining that constant temperature of the home. 1:06:06.840 --> 1:06:09.960 Okay, I have no idea, but does that also improve 1:06:10.160 --> 1:06:12.720 the mold situation? I mean a lot of people listening now, 1:06:12.800 --> 1:06:14.760 as we're seeing the temperatures drop without a lot of rain, 1:06:14.800 --> 1:06:18.400 they'll be seeing mold on their cornices, in their plasters, 1:06:18.480 --> 1:06:21.280 ceilings all over Sydney, and who knows where does that 1:06:21.400 --> 1:06:22.560 help in that circumstance. 1:06:23.200 --> 1:06:26.120 It's an interesting point because I from my understanding, there's 1:06:26.120 --> 1:06:29.240 not scientific data that supports it. However, people who live 1:06:29.280 --> 1:06:31.840 in these houses talk about the health benefits themselves. It 1:06:31.880 --> 1:06:35.320 is at this stage I believe and ancdotal evidence. But 1:06:35.760 --> 1:06:37.800 just because you're not getting any of those pollutions in 1:06:37.800 --> 1:06:40.120 the house and the stabilization of the temperature, I think 1:06:40.160 --> 1:06:42.480 that's ultimately what you're not getting that humidity in a house. 1:06:42.760 --> 1:06:45.640 Some of these houses can even run like this gentleman 1:06:45.720 --> 1:06:47.520 was saying, even in Sydney in the middle of summer, 1:06:47.800 --> 1:06:50.480 technically without air conditioning, and I just think of those 1:06:50.520 --> 1:06:55.800 scorching summers of experienced. It's quite phenomenal how that incredible incilation, 1:06:55.960 --> 1:06:59.000 along with the filtration system and the heating and calling 1:06:59.040 --> 1:07:01.840 being just right, actually runs the house. 1:07:01.920 --> 1:07:04.520 But I have to say the infrastructure required for this 1:07:04.720 --> 1:07:08.160 is substantial. It's not cheap, it requires a lot, not cheap. 1:07:08.040 --> 1:07:11.439 To do the initial outlay, but incredibly cheap to run 1:07:11.520 --> 1:07:13.680 and increasingly becoming more desirable. 1:07:13.840 --> 1:07:14.720 You know, passive house. 1:07:14.760 --> 1:07:17.480 This house in Asquith is and it is an extreme example. 1:07:17.720 --> 1:07:19.840 But I'll give you say something about this as well, Michael. 1:07:19.960 --> 1:07:22.880 This house was opposite a very large school there. I'm 1:07:22.880 --> 1:07:24.280 not sure if it was Asquith. 1:07:23.880 --> 1:07:25.920 High, but it was a very huge school. 1:07:26.040 --> 1:07:28.600 And when you're in the house you hear nothing, and 1:07:28.640 --> 1:07:30.440 you step out in the street and there's bells and 1:07:30.480 --> 1:07:32.360 cart I mean, the whole shebang of a school. But 1:07:32.920 --> 1:07:35.640 it was fascinating from that perspective how you could be 1:07:35.680 --> 1:07:36.240 living anywhere. 1:07:36.240 --> 1:07:38.160 And we've got one in Melbourne in the market. 1:07:37.960 --> 1:07:40.800 Actually, and it's literally on a train line, but you 1:07:40.880 --> 1:07:43.160 hear nothing when you're inside the house. 1:07:43.240 --> 1:07:45.240 Impressive. Okay, now we'll take a break. 1:07:45.240 --> 1:07:47.360 When we come back, we've got sort of I guess 1:07:47.400 --> 1:07:51.080 you'd say, a unique real estate opportunity, but also the 1:07:51.120 --> 1:07:53.520 bargain of the week. I can't believe we're going to Paddington, 1:07:53.760 --> 1:07:56.320 Paddington for the bargain of the week. If you said 1:07:56.320 --> 1:07:58.080 to someone you can buy in Paddington's run to half 1:07:58.120 --> 1:08:00.040 a million, they'd say your nuts. But you can, and 1:08:00.440 --> 1:08:02.200 in fact someone did so. We'll give you all of 1:08:02.240 --> 1:08:04.440 those details straight after this. By the way, should you say, 1:08:04.480 --> 1:08:07.560 Michelle from Smithfield, well done, you're our fifth entrant into 1:08:07.640 --> 1:08:12.240 the National Wine Festival Prize. Will be drawing the winner 1:08:12.280 --> 1:08:15.840 and probably about thirty forty minutes from now. Good luck, 1:08:15.840 --> 1:08:18.479 fingers cross Michelle one three one eight seven three. We're 1:08:18.479 --> 1:08:20.200 talking real estate, of course, in the meantime with the 1:08:20.200 --> 1:08:23.599 wonderful Ali Stalts from Debain. Now this, shall we say 1:08:23.720 --> 1:08:26.000 unique real estate opportunity of the week, Alice? 1:08:26.040 --> 1:08:26.439 What's this. 1:08:28.160 --> 1:08:29.160 You talking about? Paddington? 1:08:29.160 --> 1:08:32.559 Michael up, Now a little further north an island. 1:08:33.240 --> 1:08:35.040 It sounds like you'd like an island, is that right? 1:08:35.040 --> 1:08:40.160 Mike it's incredible. There's a island on the market off 1:08:40.240 --> 1:08:41.320 the Great Barrier Reef. 1:08:41.400 --> 1:08:43.360 Now I love this story because when you think about 1:08:43.360 --> 1:08:45.439 an island, you think I'll never be able to afford that. 1:08:45.520 --> 1:08:48.080 But this island that's called Temple Island. It's about three 1:08:48.200 --> 1:08:52.320 k's off Cape Palmerston National Park in tropical Northern Queensland. 1:08:52.840 --> 1:08:54.519 The islands one hundred and twenty three acres. 1:08:54.560 --> 1:08:57.040 Now on this island is a house, so you are 1:08:57.080 --> 1:09:00.599 actually buying the rights to the island with the house. Now, 1:09:00.760 --> 1:09:03.639 the only caveat here is the house. And the island 1:09:03.880 --> 1:09:06.080 is also owned by another family and one of the 1:09:06.120 --> 1:09:08.080 other families and are selling it. So you will co 1:09:08.280 --> 1:09:12.040 share ownership of the island and this property. I'm told 1:09:12.080 --> 1:09:14.560 you're a lovely family, but you have to sort of negotiate, 1:09:14.600 --> 1:09:16.400 you know, use it six months of the year, eyes. 1:09:16.160 --> 1:09:19.240 At six months of the year. But what an extraordinary thing. 1:09:19.280 --> 1:09:20.720 Now to get to this island. You can you can 1:09:20.800 --> 1:09:23.120 hop on little light plane or you can catch boat. 1:09:23.720 --> 1:09:26.280 But I just thought for under six hundred thousand dollars, 1:09:26.360 --> 1:09:29.360 we don't see this every day, Michael, Okay. 1:09:29.120 --> 1:09:29.920 No, you wouldn't. 1:09:30.000 --> 1:09:34.080 No, So three the house itself three bedrooms, one bathroom. 1:09:34.080 --> 1:09:36.920 There's no car bar. There's no point having a car, is. 1:09:37.360 --> 1:09:40.040 No, But not to worry. You can put your light 1:09:40.120 --> 1:09:42.240 plane just out the front. There's plenty of space for 1:09:42.280 --> 1:09:44.559 you to park the plane or pull up the dinghy 1:09:44.600 --> 1:09:45.160 on the boat. 1:09:46.120 --> 1:09:47.600 But it's quite extraordinary. 1:09:47.640 --> 1:09:49.120 I mean, I'm sure mus be one of the only 1:09:49.120 --> 1:09:50.760 countries in the world where you can actually buy an 1:09:50.800 --> 1:09:53.800 island for under a million bucks. I'm pretty sure it 1:09:53.800 --> 1:09:57.040 would be. But literally on this there is snorkeling nearby. 1:09:57.120 --> 1:10:00.000 Beautiful obviously the Great Berrier Reef to explore whales here. 1:10:00.040 --> 1:10:02.360 You apparently hear the migration once or twice a year 1:10:02.400 --> 1:10:06.360 and whatnot. But apparently a very special part of Australia. 1:10:05.760 --> 1:10:08.880 And there'd be ample opportunities to catch some fish for dinner. 1:10:08.920 --> 1:10:09.599 I would think. 1:10:10.400 --> 1:10:12.400 Indeed, you would never need a local store. I'm not 1:10:12.400 --> 1:10:15.080 sure you get your milk from but look, you know. 1:10:15.240 --> 1:10:16.840 And the other thing is I had to laugh at 1:10:16.840 --> 1:10:20.560 this listing. It comes with you do have Telstra and 1:10:20.640 --> 1:10:23.280 Optus coverage on the island and it says, you know, 1:10:23.400 --> 1:10:25.599 for those who want it. But I thought it's actually 1:10:25.600 --> 1:10:27.960 it's an interesting caveat, isn't it to actually have to 1:10:28.000 --> 1:10:28.639 put that in there. 1:10:28.680 --> 1:10:30.320 I thought, in a place like that, do we believe 1:10:30.360 --> 1:10:33.840 that anymore after recent stories? Okay, now bargain of the 1:10:33.920 --> 1:10:37.200 week not quite as exotic. But you know, as I said, 1:10:37.240 --> 1:10:39.680 if you were saying to anybody listening, oh look, you 1:10:39.680 --> 1:10:42.639 can get a joint in Paddington in glen View Street 1:10:42.640 --> 1:10:46.200 if you don't mind, for under half a million dollars. No, yeah, 1:10:46.400 --> 1:10:48.720 what are you selling a shoebox? Okay, well, this is 1:10:48.760 --> 1:10:51.559 a studio, so it's a shoe box for people really 1:10:51.560 --> 1:10:53.920 big feet. But tell me about this. 1:10:54.960 --> 1:10:56.840 Yeah, if you want the two two to one post 1:10:56.840 --> 1:10:59.840 code of Paddington. This studio sort at auction last weekend 1:11:00.280 --> 1:11:03.160 for four hundred and seventy nine thousand dollars. 1:11:03.560 --> 1:11:05.040 Now a lot of money, but. 1:11:05.040 --> 1:11:06.760 As you said, this is the cachet of one of 1:11:06.760 --> 1:11:10.160 the arguably Sydney's most lovely little areas. Now it is 1:11:10.160 --> 1:11:12.680 a tiny studio, but we've also talked about in the 1:11:12.720 --> 1:11:15.880 past clever ways you can sort of reconfigure these to 1:11:15.920 --> 1:11:17.560 actually make them work quite efficiently. 1:11:18.200 --> 1:11:19.360 It's got a little living. 1:11:19.160 --> 1:11:21.880 Space which is also doubles as you're sleeping space. But 1:11:22.080 --> 1:11:25.120 I do believe that imaginatively you could sort of potentially 1:11:25.160 --> 1:11:27.000 put a little wall up or a blind or sort 1:11:27.040 --> 1:11:30.120 of cording that of small kitchen and a little bathroom 1:11:30.120 --> 1:11:32.400 as well. Now it doesn't come with a parking spot, 1:11:32.400 --> 1:11:33.960 which is what I always love because you can always 1:11:33.960 --> 1:11:36.280 rent that out on the side. But there is parking 1:11:36.320 --> 1:11:38.920 on site for residents, but you can't obviously rent out 1:11:38.960 --> 1:11:41.720 your own. It's not on the title. But I just thought, 1:11:41.720 --> 1:11:44.320 what an extraordinary sale to see in city, just three 1:11:44.400 --> 1:11:47.519 hundred meters from Liverpool Street, right near five Ways in 1:11:47.560 --> 1:11:50.920 Paddington and in that lovely sort of Glenville partment building. 1:11:50.960 --> 1:11:53.479 It so that's sort of old Deco building and it's 1:11:53.479 --> 1:11:55.160 a lovely building. It's on level too, so you've got 1:11:55.200 --> 1:11:57.599 a bit of light coming in from it as well. 1:11:57.960 --> 1:11:59.720 Okay, so it's not massive, but I mean it's the 1:11:59.720 --> 1:12:03.400 low not good if you've got five children and planning 1:12:03.439 --> 1:12:06.080 to expand. But if you're a single guy or girl, 1:12:06.120 --> 1:12:08.240 and I don't know, maybe you're working in the city 1:12:08.320 --> 1:12:10.200 or you're just starting your real estate journey, you want 1:12:10.240 --> 1:12:12.759 a little bit of a little bit of capital behind 1:12:12.800 --> 1:12:13.400 you or whatever. 1:12:13.439 --> 1:12:15.519 I mean, my goodness, for four hundred and seventy nine. 1:12:15.400 --> 1:12:18.960 Thousand, correct, and I do I do again say that 1:12:19.000 --> 1:12:20.880 I think when you if this was your own place, 1:12:20.920 --> 1:12:22.200 you could sort of kiss it out in a way 1:12:22.240 --> 1:12:25.080 that made it as efficient as possible. And I hear 1:12:25.080 --> 1:12:27.160 what you're saying, probably not five children, but there are 1:12:27.240 --> 1:12:29.840 ways to actually configure these to sort of put in 1:12:29.960 --> 1:12:32.600 custom bunks. I mean, I'm not joking here, but there 1:12:32.640 --> 1:12:35.400 are many imaginative things you can do when you start 1:12:35.439 --> 1:12:38.800 researching how to live in a very small footprint with 1:12:38.880 --> 1:12:41.400 sort of custom joining in. That is a very worthwhile 1:12:41.400 --> 1:12:43.720 investment that can actually make their studios feel much more 1:12:43.720 --> 1:12:47.240 efficient and have a real sort of style of their own. 1:12:47.360 --> 1:12:49.160 So I just thought it were a fascinating by that 1:12:49.200 --> 1:12:50.200 we saw last weekend. 1:12:50.439 --> 1:12:53.479 Absolutely, I'm quite blown over by just how close you 1:12:53.520 --> 1:12:55.280 can get to the city for that sort of a price, 1:12:55.479 --> 1:12:58.320 given it is a small footprint, but none the less wonderful. 1:12:58.360 --> 1:13:00.479 Thank you for this week, Alice. As always, we'll speak 1:13:00.479 --> 1:13:01.280 same time next week. 1:13:01.280 --> 1:13:03.960 Okay, look forward to it. Thanks Michael, my pleasure. 1:13:04.000 --> 1:13:07.439 Thank you, Alice Stults, the National Property editor there from 1:13:07.640 --> 1:13:10.400 domain three one eight seven three is our number. It's 1:13:10.439 --> 1:13:12.439 five to two, okay, we've got the two o'clock news 1:13:12.479 --> 1:13:14.280 just around the corner. Let's go make a cup of 1:13:14.280 --> 1:13:15.760 tea or whatever it is and we'll come back. An 1:13:15.760 --> 1:13:18.679 interesting third hour coming up. We'll speak with Andy Gregory, 1:13:18.720 --> 1:13:21.800 who's the chair of the National Wine Festival. Of course, 1:13:21.800 --> 1:13:23.880 so we've been putting people in the drawer for this 1:13:23.960 --> 1:13:26.280 extraordinary prize, so we'll have a chat to him about 1:13:26.520 --> 1:13:30.080 the whole Australian wine scene. And also we'll get our 1:13:30.160 --> 1:13:32.639 lucky winner up on the open line and give them 1:13:32.640 --> 1:13:35.000 the good news during that later in the hour. I'm 1:13:35.000 --> 1:13:36.680 looking forward to this as well. I'll be speaking to 1:13:36.880 --> 1:13:42.000 the successful New South Wales One Nation Senate candidate Warwick Stacy. 1:13:42.040 --> 1:13:44.759 Now I've met Warick once or twice at some different 1:13:44.800 --> 1:13:50.960 functions hosted by Professor David Flynt, and Warick is a 1:13:51.040 --> 1:13:55.240 very very impressive human being, very gifted orator and an 1:13:55.240 --> 1:14:01.200 incredible backstory, a former British soldier, and I think he 1:14:01.240 --> 1:14:04.240 will make a great addition to the Australian Senate. I 1:14:04.240 --> 1:14:05.800 think we need a few more people like him in 1:14:05.840 --> 1:14:08.800 there sorting out the nonsense that goes on. A few 1:14:08.880 --> 1:14:11.320 more Warick's and a few less lydia Thorpes, if you 1:14:11.400 --> 1:14:13.600 get my drift anyway, So We're having a chat with 1:14:13.680 --> 1:14:15.760 Warreck in the final hour as well, looking forward to 1:14:15.840 --> 1:14:17.800 that and seeing what's on his agenda and what his 1:14:17.920 --> 1:14:20.720 priorities are. I think dovetailing off the conversation yesday with 1:14:20.760 --> 1:14:23.920 Malcolm Davis from Masby. You know, the defense of the 1:14:23.920 --> 1:14:27.320 Commonwealth has to be a very significant issue in this 1:14:27.479 --> 1:14:30.080 Parliament and people like Warwick will be able to keep 1:14:30.400 --> 1:14:31.759 that topic relevant. 1:14:32.000 --> 1:14:32.639 News is next. 1:14:32.800 --> 1:14:39.520 It's now onto gb and network stations. Back to afternoons 1:14:39.560 --> 1:14:40.760 with Michael McLaren. 1:14:43.080 --> 1:14:44.960 All right into the third hour. Thank you for joining 1:14:45.040 --> 1:14:47.120 us on this rather glorious Friday. I hope you've got 1:14:47.120 --> 1:14:49.800 a nice weekend planned as well. One three one eight 1:14:49.880 --> 1:14:51.920 seven three The open line number if you want to 1:14:51.920 --> 1:14:53.920 have you say on anything really doesn't have to be 1:14:53.920 --> 1:14:54.799 anything we're discussing. 1:14:54.840 --> 1:14:56.479 You just sent the agenda. You're in control. 1:14:57.360 --> 1:14:59.240 You can set us a text. Many have I'm trying 1:14:59.280 --> 1:15:01.200 to get through what how many texts. I can't get 1:15:01.240 --> 1:15:03.040 through all of them. But thank you for writing zero 1:15:03.080 --> 1:15:06.040 four six, zero eight seven three eight seven three. Not 1:15:06.240 --> 1:15:07.640 that this is going to be the biggest issue in 1:15:07.640 --> 1:15:09.679 the world, but of course, you know, you change certain 1:15:09.720 --> 1:15:11.439 things around and then there are knock on effects. And 1:15:11.520 --> 1:15:15.360 so the new Sydney Fish Market is obviously adjacent to, 1:15:15.520 --> 1:15:18.479 but not really in the same location as the old 1:15:18.520 --> 1:15:21.280 Sydney Fish Market. As we were discussing earlier, the old 1:15:21.320 --> 1:15:23.320 side will be bowled over and developed, and in part 1:15:23.360 --> 1:15:26.320 that will help fund the rather extraordinary cost of building 1:15:26.400 --> 1:15:30.519 than you and all of that. But one side effect, 1:15:30.520 --> 1:15:33.080 as it were, of that is that the Fish Market 1:15:33.160 --> 1:15:37.320 light rail stop may need to have a name change 1:15:38.080 --> 1:15:41.080 because people will be getting off stepping out, and they're 1:15:41.080 --> 1:15:43.519 not really at the fish Market, mind you, they're not 1:15:43.560 --> 1:15:47.599 far away. But there is some talk about changing the name, 1:15:48.240 --> 1:15:51.040 and I see that the Geographical Names Board is seeking 1:15:51.040 --> 1:15:54.519 community feedback on a proposal by Transport for New South 1:15:54.520 --> 1:16:00.280 Wales to rename the fish Market light rail Stop the 1:16:00.520 --> 1:16:04.880 Bank Street light rail Stop. Now the fish Market light 1:16:04.960 --> 1:16:07.320 rail stops located in the intersection of Bank Street and 1:16:07.360 --> 1:16:11.639 Miller Street, just over here underneath the Western Distributor, and 1:16:12.520 --> 1:16:15.280 it's near the entrance to the current Sydney Fish Market. 1:16:15.320 --> 1:16:18.080 But Transport for New South Wales has proposed changing the 1:16:18.160 --> 1:16:21.080 name to Bank Street light rail Stop to reflect the 1:16:21.120 --> 1:16:23.040 street on which it is located. 1:16:24.040 --> 1:16:29.080 Okay, now, look, I use that light rail. 1:16:29.120 --> 1:16:33.240 Occasionally I think I'm just going off the top of 1:16:33.280 --> 1:16:35.120 my head here, trying to sort of bird's eye view, 1:16:35.160 --> 1:16:41.040 But I would imagine that the Wentworth Park stop is 1:16:41.080 --> 1:16:44.200 actually going to be closer to the new Fish Markets 1:16:45.200 --> 1:16:48.640 than the Fish Market stop is at the moment. So 1:16:48.800 --> 1:16:52.200 perhaps that's also part of the quite unquote logic here. 1:16:53.479 --> 1:16:55.519 If it were me, I just transport for New Southwest 1:16:55.520 --> 1:16:57.679 before I went down this path, I say, listen, okay, 1:16:57.760 --> 1:16:59.280 just tell me if I was the minister, how much 1:16:59.360 --> 1:17:02.320 is it going to cost to change all of the signage, 1:17:02.479 --> 1:17:05.919 all of the names, all of the signage and stickers 1:17:05.920 --> 1:17:10.000 and everything that are inside the light rail trams, the 1:17:10.080 --> 1:17:14.400 light rail vehicles themselves, to change the name from fish 1:17:14.439 --> 1:17:18.640 Market to bank Street on all of those London Underground 1:17:18.680 --> 1:17:20.840 style maps on the how much is all of that 1:17:20.960 --> 1:17:24.599 going to cost? And if the figures in any way sizeable, 1:17:24.960 --> 1:17:27.479 forget it, leave it. People can work it out. It's 1:17:27.520 --> 1:17:32.840 not far away. But if it's a negligible cost change 1:17:32.840 --> 1:17:35.840 the name, whether bank Street's going to mean much to people. 1:17:36.240 --> 1:17:37.720 I don't think too many people are hopping out of 1:17:37.720 --> 1:17:40.600 bank Street because of Bank Street, but anyway, that's that. 1:17:41.439 --> 1:17:43.599 So you might want to have, you say you can 1:17:43.680 --> 1:17:48.040 do that. There'll be submissions closing June the thirtieth, so 1:17:48.040 --> 1:17:50.240 you've got about a month. I think you just go 1:17:50.360 --> 1:17:55.080 to the geographic name Board website if you're half. 1:17:54.800 --> 1:17:58.040 Interested in any of that. All right, So there's that. 1:17:58.360 --> 1:18:01.040 There's an interesting story also, the bubble up earlier in 1:18:01.040 --> 1:18:04.440 the week, and it's to do with Tesla. 1:18:04.640 --> 1:18:04.840 Now. 1:18:06.400 --> 1:18:08.960 You know, sometimes I think we can be our own 1:18:09.000 --> 1:18:12.839 worst enemies. As reporting The Guardian that Elon Musks Tesla 1:18:12.880 --> 1:18:15.599 as they'd like to call it, there is one step 1:18:15.640 --> 1:18:19.559 closer to opening a factory in an Adelaide suburb. That is, 1:18:19.600 --> 1:18:25.479 despite overwhelming community opposition from quote anti Tesla and anti 1:18:25.680 --> 1:18:28.960 Elon Musk sentiment end quote. 1:18:29.720 --> 1:18:29.920 Now. 1:18:29.960 --> 1:18:33.760 On Tuesday night, the city of Marion, that's the council there, Adelaide, 1:18:34.160 --> 1:18:37.040 voted to seek state government approval to sell the site 1:18:37.080 --> 1:18:39.439 to a developer who will build the factory. You know, 1:18:39.520 --> 1:18:42.639 lots of jobs and whatever, but environmental concerns and worries 1:18:42.680 --> 1:18:47.960 the site would draw protesters were also cited among the 1:18:48.040 --> 1:18:51.680 ninety five percent of people who made submissions opposed to 1:18:51.760 --> 1:18:57.280 the plan for the battery factory. Okay, so there's environmental whatever. 1:18:57.720 --> 1:18:59.840 But I would imagine the majority of people who are 1:18:59.840 --> 1:19:03.280 get upset don't like Elon Musk because he's associated himself 1:19:03.280 --> 1:19:05.439 with Donald Trump, and they don't like Donald Trump. So 1:19:05.520 --> 1:19:08.559 anyone who's even vaguely within the oscillation of the Great 1:19:08.600 --> 1:19:12.680 Trumpster is persona non grata and anything associated with them 1:19:12.720 --> 1:19:16.080 can't be anywhere in me. So the argument goes, I 1:19:16.120 --> 1:19:19.160 mean that these people crazy. Now, let's just put it 1:19:19.160 --> 1:19:22.240 this way. B yd or Great Wall or whatever, one 1:19:22.280 --> 1:19:24.519 of those Chinese companies wanted to open a battery factory, 1:19:24.520 --> 1:19:24.960 do you think. 1:19:24.800 --> 1:19:27.760 They'd be getting upset. I don't think they'd blink an eye. 1:19:29.160 --> 1:19:30.559 I mean it'd be interesting to go and have a 1:19:30.560 --> 1:19:33.479 look in the backstory about all of these different companies 1:19:33.520 --> 1:19:37.080 and what goes on. But you know it links to 1:19:37.120 --> 1:19:40.000 the Communist Party of China. Oh good, nothing. 1:19:39.720 --> 1:19:40.280 To see there. 1:19:40.360 --> 1:19:44.120 Oh but Elon's been advising Trump with doge, and so 1:19:44.280 --> 1:19:46.400 therefore we can't have anything to do with him here, 1:19:46.439 --> 1:19:48.880 even though the jobs would be well paying and high 1:19:48.880 --> 1:19:50.840 skilled and good for our kids. And oh I can't 1:19:50.880 --> 1:19:53.400 have that because Elon's got something to do with it. 1:19:54.160 --> 1:19:55.439 This is just mad. 1:19:55.680 --> 1:19:57.920 Anyway, It will be interesting to see what happens. I 1:19:57.960 --> 1:20:01.519 don't know for a determination as yet been made. The 1:20:01.560 --> 1:20:04.120 mayor said that blocking the sale of the site would 1:20:04.120 --> 1:20:06.599 have no impact on Musk and would have cost one 1:20:06.640 --> 1:20:10.280 hundred local jobs. True, so the mayor is smart. I'm 1:20:10.320 --> 1:20:12.880 not sure about all the constituents, mind you. The people 1:20:12.920 --> 1:20:15.200 complaining may not even be constituents themselves. They could be 1:20:15.240 --> 1:20:18.200 from you know, it could be from Mozambique. 1:20:17.520 --> 1:20:19.639 For all I know. The wonder of the Internet. 1:20:19.800 --> 1:20:22.040 One three, one eight seven three Friday food after this 1:20:22.360 --> 1:20:31.680 great to be with you at sixteen minutes past two 1:20:33.120 --> 1:20:34.360 now one afternoons. 1:20:34.680 --> 1:20:35.599 Friday food. 1:20:36.160 --> 1:20:39.160 Okay, Well, Australia makes some beautiful wines. That is a 1:20:39.200 --> 1:20:43.040 statement that has absolutely no one in disagreement. Regions like 1:20:43.080 --> 1:20:45.640 the Hunter, the Yar of the Barossa Valley, all of 1:20:45.640 --> 1:20:47.400 that and more, of course testament of the truth. But 1:20:47.760 --> 1:20:50.240 the wines and the work that goes into making them, 1:20:50.800 --> 1:20:53.040 that's got to be celebrated. And that's exactly what's happening 1:20:53.080 --> 1:20:55.040 at the National Wine Festival. It is one of the 1:20:55.040 --> 1:20:58.120 country's most prestigious events for wine on the calendar and 1:20:58.240 --> 1:21:01.240 this year it'll be June twelve to fifteen. Award winning 1:21:01.240 --> 1:21:05.280 producers experts and enthusiasts, all invited to four days of 1:21:05.400 --> 1:21:08.760 learning about and celebrating and yes, tasting, everything that goes 1:21:08.760 --> 1:21:12.439 into creating the perfect Australian drop. Now, our wine industry 1:21:12.479 --> 1:21:15.600 is a major contributor to the global economy, certainly to 1:21:15.640 --> 1:21:18.240 our own economy, where the fifth largest wine producer and 1:21:18.280 --> 1:21:21.360 exporter in the world. Not bad when you consider that 1:21:21.360 --> 1:21:24.200 the vines didn't arrive here until what at the earliest 1:21:24.200 --> 1:21:26.920 two hundred years ago, and with a total vineyard area 1:21:27.040 --> 1:21:29.639 now estimated to be about one hundred and forty six 1:21:29.920 --> 1:21:35.720 thousand hectares, one point zero four two million liters of 1:21:35.760 --> 1:21:39.240 wine are produced per year. I think it's safe to 1:21:39.240 --> 1:21:41.120 say we love it, but above all, the rest of 1:21:41.160 --> 1:21:43.559 the world loves it as well. Now, Andy Gregory is 1:21:43.600 --> 1:21:46.040 the chair of the National Wine Festival. That's not a 1:21:46.040 --> 1:21:49.000 bad gig. And he joins me on the line. Andy, 1:21:49.000 --> 1:21:49.280 good to. 1:21:49.280 --> 1:21:52.040 Speak to you, Great to speak to me you. 1:21:52.040 --> 1:21:55.600 Michael, congratulations on the festival. It's a wonderful celebration of 1:21:55.600 --> 1:21:55.960 what we do. 1:21:56.040 --> 1:22:00.799 Well, isn't it exactly a great opportunity to celebrate great industry. 1:22:00.840 --> 1:22:03.639 As you just said, it's really important to the nation 1:22:03.800 --> 1:22:07.519 and we're trying to amplify that importance. We're hosting the 1:22:07.560 --> 1:22:09.120 first ever national Wine Festival. 1:22:09.560 --> 1:22:12.160 Now, despite the surname, I have no connection to the 1:22:12.640 --> 1:22:15.480 McLaren Vale region, South Australia. 1:22:15.000 --> 1:22:17.799 Alas I do like medic and big reds. 1:22:19.080 --> 1:22:21.599 I think, what's our most famous once pon a time 1:22:21.640 --> 1:22:24.800 called Sharaz? It was Chardonnaye we used to send around 1:22:24.800 --> 1:22:26.720 the world and that was the Australian wine. Is it 1:22:26.760 --> 1:22:28.840 now more the reds the Sharazes? And is that what 1:22:28.880 --> 1:22:29.800 we're now better known for? 1:22:30.880 --> 1:22:33.080 Probably the bigger reds, the Sharaz. 1:22:33.280 --> 1:22:37.120 But but we are getting world class RNES wines across 1:22:37.120 --> 1:22:41.040 the board, from front in sparklings, where we've got we're 1:22:41.080 --> 1:22:43.120 one of the few countries outside France the one of 1:22:43.120 --> 1:22:45.760 the best sparkling award in the world, and all the 1:22:45.800 --> 1:22:48.840 way through to the back end fortified wines, where we've 1:22:48.840 --> 1:22:51.679 got producers in rather Glen who are simply the best 1:22:51.720 --> 1:22:52.200 in the world. 1:22:52.280 --> 1:22:54.600 So we're really. 1:22:54.240 --> 1:22:57.080 Broadened out in terms of our quality wine offerings. 1:22:57.560 --> 1:22:59.240 How have we got to that point, because as I said, 1:22:59.280 --> 1:23:01.320 you know, you look Europe, some of those vineyards have 1:23:01.400 --> 1:23:03.519 been the hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of 1:23:03.600 --> 1:23:07.800 years we haven't had that longevity, but we've clearly got 1:23:07.800 --> 1:23:08.800 the right conditions. 1:23:09.600 --> 1:23:12.040 You know what we've had, Michael, and this is James 1:23:12.080 --> 1:23:15.719 Halliday quote. We basically had the most rigorous wine judging 1:23:15.760 --> 1:23:18.680 system in the world, where we have wine shows at 1:23:18.720 --> 1:23:21.799 regional levels in the major capital cities and the national 1:23:21.800 --> 1:23:24.680 line show and the rigor that's associated with that has 1:23:24.680 --> 1:23:28.040 helped us really work through the last fifty one hundred 1:23:28.120 --> 1:23:30.519 years in terms of improving the wines on offer and 1:23:30.560 --> 1:23:34.519 making sure that we're positioning ourselves well well for the future. 1:23:34.560 --> 1:23:37.759 And it's really worked well. Like we are really in 1:23:37.800 --> 1:23:39.120 a good space at the moment. 1:23:39.479 --> 1:23:42.600 Speaking of the judging, the trophy presentation dinner, which is 1:23:42.800 --> 1:23:46.240 I guess the apergye of the festival, regarded as one 1:23:46.280 --> 1:23:49.639 of the highlights of the whole thing. That's Thursday, June twelve. 1:23:49.840 --> 1:23:51.559 What happens to that dinner, because that's the great and 1:23:51.560 --> 1:23:52.759 the good go to that one, don't. 1:23:52.600 --> 1:23:53.800 They they do? 1:23:53.960 --> 1:23:56.799 Look at For the first time really ever, we've offered 1:23:57.080 --> 1:24:00.320 publicly available tickets. We hild up to five hundred people 1:24:00.360 --> 1:24:03.600 in the Great Hall of Parliament House, which is spectacular 1:24:03.640 --> 1:24:07.400 in its own right and basically the wineries coming from 1:24:07.439 --> 1:24:10.519 around the nation and the awards are delivered and with 1:24:10.640 --> 1:24:13.880 the top gong being the Prime Minister's Trophy, which we're 1:24:13.880 --> 1:24:16.799 hopeful the Prime Minister will award again this year as. 1:24:16.640 --> 1:24:17.519 He did last year. 1:24:18.360 --> 1:24:20.800 So it's a it's a meeting of people who have 1:24:20.880 --> 1:24:23.360 a passion for wine and just want to celebrate the 1:24:23.920 --> 1:24:25.160 success of the industry. 1:24:25.920 --> 1:24:27.919 The politicians will be there, of course. 1:24:29.160 --> 1:24:29.760 Not so much. 1:24:30.120 --> 1:24:32.040 Oh really, not so much. 1:24:32.120 --> 1:24:35.800 It's it's very much industry and yeah, industrument media. 1:24:35.840 --> 1:24:37.000 There'll be a lot of media there. 1:24:37.439 --> 1:24:39.160 There's a few free drinks. That's why the media will 1:24:39.200 --> 1:24:39.479 be there. 1:24:40.920 --> 1:24:44.519 You know them well, Mike, yeah. 1:24:44.560 --> 1:24:47.840 They of themselves, but on a serious level for the 1:24:47.920 --> 1:24:51.559 average enthusiast, a lot of Australians are an enthusiast without 1:24:51.680 --> 1:24:54.400 getting into all of the origins and all of this. 1:24:54.479 --> 1:24:57.960 When they sip it through the teeth, there is going 1:24:58.000 --> 1:25:01.880 to be just so many variet available to try. 1:25:02.000 --> 1:25:03.679 And that's one of the great things of this, isn't 1:25:03.720 --> 1:25:04.880 it Michael. 1:25:04.960 --> 1:25:08.160 This is probably the biggest offering that's ever been made 1:25:08.240 --> 1:25:11.040 to the public, Australian public to engage with the industry. 1:25:11.080 --> 1:25:14.760 In terms of we have one thousand and seventy one 1:25:15.360 --> 1:25:19.200 wines that people can taste. All of those have gone 1:25:19.240 --> 1:25:21.680 through the show system, so they've actually have won a 1:25:21.720 --> 1:25:24.280 gold or a silver medal even before they get to 1:25:24.360 --> 1:25:26.960 the National Wine Show. So every one of those one 1:25:26.960 --> 1:25:30.080 thousand and seventy one wines is outstanding in its own life. 1:25:30.840 --> 1:25:34.040 So we've got five public tastings for three hours long 1:25:34.280 --> 1:25:37.760 where people can come along and really test out all 1:25:37.760 --> 1:25:42.200 the varieties. We've got thirty five master classes led by 1:25:43.120 --> 1:25:46.920 luminaries of the Australian mine industry. And we've got the 1:25:46.960 --> 1:25:49.639 two dinners this said the Parlament House, and we've also 1:25:49.680 --> 1:25:52.280 got a great dinner on the Friday night at the 1:25:52.360 --> 1:25:55.800 Higatt High Canbra with Jene Kitson mcn o. 1:25:56.000 --> 1:25:57.000 Wonderful, great fun. 1:25:57.240 --> 1:25:58.400 It's always great fun, and. 1:25:58.840 --> 1:26:00.920 There's a lot of a three course center cheese and 1:26:00.960 --> 1:26:03.160 all the best wines in the country being served, and 1:26:03.200 --> 1:26:06.280 it's well, I won't name price, but it's actually very 1:26:06.400 --> 1:26:09.320 very very good value. So there's a lot of people 1:26:09.479 --> 1:26:12.160 can Basically, if you're looking for an excuse to come 1:26:12.160 --> 1:26:13.400 to camera, you wouldn't. 1:26:13.040 --> 1:26:13.880 Get much better than this. 1:26:14.120 --> 1:26:15.760 It's great. It's actually beautiful time of the year. 1:26:15.760 --> 1:26:18.320 Ago Okay, so the festival will be as we've established, 1:26:18.320 --> 1:26:20.400 a celebration of the industry, but at the same time 1:26:20.400 --> 1:26:22.519 there will be a lot of frank conversations taking place 1:26:22.520 --> 1:26:25.040 among those in the industry. There's stories abounding about a 1:26:25.040 --> 1:26:28.280 bit of a glut of grape produce certain varieties in 1:26:28.320 --> 1:26:30.840 certain areas. I think the River Arena particularly producing a 1:26:30.880 --> 1:26:33.519 glut at the moment. So it's one of those things, 1:26:33.520 --> 1:26:36.559 like a lot of agriculture broadly in Australia, where you 1:26:36.600 --> 1:26:39.160 have your highs and you have your lows, and the 1:26:39.800 --> 1:26:41.800 tougher the ones that can ride it out, but you 1:26:41.800 --> 1:26:44.559 know there's casualties along the way. It's not just a 1:26:44.640 --> 1:26:45.960 license to print money, is it. 1:26:46.520 --> 1:26:49.280 No spot on, It's just an agricultural endeavor and that 1:26:49.360 --> 1:26:51.880 comes with all those risks. At the moment, there's a 1:26:51.960 --> 1:26:55.800 global over supply of grapes and what I guess we 1:26:55.840 --> 1:26:58.280 do quite well in this country is ensure that the 1:26:58.280 --> 1:27:01.360 grapes we continued push through into the future are the 1:27:01.400 --> 1:27:04.360 better ones. And along the way we lose some of 1:27:04.400 --> 1:27:08.720 the margins, which is sad, but that's agriculture and it 1:27:08.760 --> 1:27:11.800 is an opportunity. We have an industry specific session where 1:27:12.080 --> 1:27:16.200 winemakers come from around the country and they taste all 1:27:16.200 --> 1:27:19.120 the different wines produced by their competitors and others, and 1:27:19.400 --> 1:27:22.439 they look for why wines are winning trophies or gold 1:27:22.439 --> 1:27:25.799 medals and they feed that knowledge back into their wine 1:27:25.800 --> 1:27:26.680 making practices. 1:27:26.760 --> 1:27:29.559 So it is an education for industry as well. 1:27:30.040 --> 1:27:33.240 Okay, now we've got a wonderful prize to give away 1:27:33.280 --> 1:27:35.640 and we'll announce the winner in just a moment. But 1:27:35.680 --> 1:27:38.280 before we do, whenever I do this Friday Food segment, 1:27:38.320 --> 1:27:40.640 we don't just celebrate wonderful produce and all that. We 1:27:40.680 --> 1:27:42.759 talk about the business. Now we've just sort of gone 1:27:42.760 --> 1:27:49.720 there obviously there greg Andy, But broadly, the tax arrangements 1:27:49.880 --> 1:27:54.120 around alcoholic beverages in this country, wines included, can be prohibitive. 1:27:54.160 --> 1:27:55.720 I mean a lot of Australians know, you fly out 1:27:55.760 --> 1:27:57.760 the London or Europe or whatever, you can pick up 1:27:57.800 --> 1:28:00.639 an Australian bottle of wine off the shelf, even when 1:28:00.680 --> 1:28:03.240 you convert the currency exchange for far cheaper than you 1:28:03.280 --> 1:28:05.920 can probably get the same or similar bottle off the 1:28:05.920 --> 1:28:09.240 shelf here. And the difference is tax. Is that something 1:28:09.320 --> 1:28:11.599 that the industry is constantly speaking to government about. 1:28:12.760 --> 1:28:17.280 So it's a cost of being in business industry acutely 1:28:17.320 --> 1:28:18.960 of where it's a significant cost. 1:28:19.720 --> 1:28:22.040 We're working the industries, working. 1:28:21.760 --> 1:28:23.680 With government all the time on those and a high 1:28:23.760 --> 1:28:27.719 range of other issues. We're fortunate in having to Trade 1:28:27.760 --> 1:28:30.120 and Tourism Ministry at the moment happens to be a 1:28:30.160 --> 1:28:35.479 wine maker, Don Farrell and basically governments, whatever the flavor 1:28:35.479 --> 1:28:37.760 of government, are sympathetic. 1:28:37.320 --> 1:28:37.840 To the course. 1:28:37.880 --> 1:28:40.360 They realize the value of the Australian wine industry. They 1:28:40.360 --> 1:28:42.960 don't want to compromise that. But let's be honest. All 1:28:43.000 --> 1:28:44.680 of us pay tax in one form or other and 1:28:44.720 --> 1:28:46.040 the wine industry is no different. 1:28:46.439 --> 1:28:48.439 That's right, all right, Andy, I just want you to 1:28:48.479 --> 1:28:51.320 hang on there because we're going to announce. We've got 1:28:51.320 --> 1:28:55.479 five very excited, anticipating individuals waiting. There can only be 1:28:55.520 --> 1:28:57.519 one winner, of course, for this extraordinary price we've been 1:28:57.560 --> 1:29:00.519 speak about all week with the National Wine Festival, two 1:29:00.560 --> 1:29:02.680 nights accommodation of the Park hy at Canbra, which is 1:29:02.680 --> 1:29:05.280 one heck of a hotel Thursday, the twelfth Friday, the 1:29:05.320 --> 1:29:08.880 thirteenth of June. Double pass to that trophy presentation dinner 1:29:08.920 --> 1:29:11.519 at Parliament House that Andy's been talking about, along with 1:29:11.560 --> 1:29:14.800 a double pass to the Expo tasting event. Alright, I'm 1:29:14.840 --> 1:29:17.519 going to put my hand in the official two GB 1:29:17.680 --> 1:29:18.400 cardboard box. 1:29:18.439 --> 1:29:25.920 Here, pick out a name and it is Raphael. Hey, Raphael, 1:29:26.280 --> 1:29:26.840 are you there? 1:29:27.600 --> 1:29:27.800 Yeah? 1:29:27.880 --> 1:29:31.120 Yeah, I'm here, Mike mate, you are off to Canberra. 1:29:32.040 --> 1:29:34.360 Thank you for that, and thank you to two GB 1:29:34.680 --> 1:29:36.280 and to the wine industry. 1:29:36.439 --> 1:29:38.639 Well that's the I'm sure it's everybody's pleasure made. Hang 1:29:38.680 --> 1:29:38.880 on there. 1:29:38.920 --> 1:29:42.040 Congratulations. You are in for a wonderful, wonderful couple of nights. 1:29:42.040 --> 1:29:44.160 As I said, you're getting two nights accommodation of the 1:29:44.160 --> 1:29:46.759 Park Hy at Canbra and that is one Stonking Hotel 1:29:47.000 --> 1:29:49.080 Thursday the twelfth and Friday the thirteenth of June. So 1:29:49.080 --> 1:29:51.400 if you've got plans, cancel them. A double pass to 1:29:51.439 --> 1:29:54.479 the trophy presentation dinner at Parliament House, Andy, that's the 1:29:54.520 --> 1:29:55.960 one in the Great Hall, isn't that one? 1:29:56.720 --> 1:29:57.000 Hey? 1:29:57.000 --> 1:30:00.000 It is absolutely The Great Hall is a fantastic venue. 1:30:00.040 --> 1:30:00.679 It's just great. 1:30:01.040 --> 1:30:04.320 And the double pass to the Expo tasting event. Raphael, 1:30:04.400 --> 1:30:06.080 you are in for a treat. Thank you for listening, 1:30:06.160 --> 1:30:08.280 thank you for being a loyal listener, and thank you 1:30:08.320 --> 1:30:11.760 for what you do. Best of luck for that extraordinary 1:30:11.760 --> 1:30:13.840 festival that's coming up, and look forward to speaking down 1:30:13.920 --> 1:30:14.240 the track. 1:30:14.920 --> 1:30:16.000 Well, thanks Alatt and Mike. 1:30:16.040 --> 1:30:18.320 Can we look forward to seeing half of Sydney at 1:30:18.360 --> 1:30:18.919 the festival. 1:30:18.960 --> 1:30:20.280 That'd be a good start. 1:30:20.439 --> 1:30:22.639 We might need more than that one thousand and seventy bottles. 1:30:22.640 --> 1:30:28.200 I reckon all the best, Andy Gregory. They're the chair 1:30:28.240 --> 1:30:29.839 of the National Wine Festival. 1:30:30.479 --> 1:30:33.559 It's that time of the afternoon. Time to find out 1:30:33.680 --> 1:30:37.080 what's coming up on Sydney. Now for the Serrato successor, 1:30:37.200 --> 1:30:40.719 the turbo charged Kia K four kias on new small 1:30:40.760 --> 1:30:44.559 sedan GT Line veryant available now find out more about 1:30:44.600 --> 1:30:46.160 Kia's latest small car. 1:30:46.600 --> 1:30:48.439 And by the way, those that didn't win, you're not 1:30:48.479 --> 1:30:51.479 going without two GB price pack coming to all of you, 1:30:51.600 --> 1:30:53.719 so there'll be some goodies in there to enjoy. 1:30:53.840 --> 1:30:55.720 Clinton Maynard, good afternoon. 1:30:55.439 --> 1:30:57.760 Just referring to the Great Hall in Parliament House. So 1:30:57.800 --> 1:31:00.760 I just took my son to Parlment House, Soviets and 1:31:00.840 --> 1:31:04.240 he looks he's fourteen. He's not really into politics. He 1:31:04.280 --> 1:31:06.360 was more interested in going to Questerakin in the museum 1:31:06.360 --> 1:31:09.720 that we visited in Canberra, and it was on a Saturday, 1:31:09.760 --> 1:31:13.000 so the politicians weren't at home. But we went through 1:31:13.040 --> 1:31:15.479 the Great Hall and then I showed him the Senate 1:31:15.680 --> 1:31:19.360 and showed him the Lower House, and he obviously taking 1:31:19.360 --> 1:31:22.519 a keen eye in these issues. He spotted a timer 1:31:23.600 --> 1:31:25.840 in the Lower House, so it's obviously the time that 1:31:25.840 --> 1:31:28.519 it's used. This is actually I think a digital one 1:31:28.520 --> 1:31:29.880 that was up there, because they do use a digital 1:31:29.920 --> 1:31:31.880 one as well, just to make sure the politicians stick 1:31:31.960 --> 1:31:34.680 to time with their responses to questions. And he remarked, oh, 1:31:34.680 --> 1:31:37.280 this is just a sport, right for a little bit 1:31:37.360 --> 1:31:39.200 like a school board countdown clock. 1:31:39.439 --> 1:31:40.880 That's a pretty good analogy. 1:31:40.920 --> 1:31:42.960 I think it's just a sport. He's probably seen question 1:31:43.040 --> 1:31:45.280 Tom on Parliament and figured that's what it a mounts to. 1:31:46.120 --> 1:31:48.720 True, it's it can be a contact sport, there's no 1:31:48.760 --> 1:31:50.599 doubt about it, verbal rather than physical. 1:31:50.680 --> 1:31:52.559 Well in our parliament. You go to some other places 1:31:52.560 --> 1:31:53.479 and it's on for young and old. 1:31:53.479 --> 1:31:55.439 Oh the ti wee in these parliaments except oh yeah, 1:31:55.720 --> 1:31:56.120 I think. 1:31:56.000 --> 1:31:57.759 The Serbian parliament had a crack not long. 1:31:57.640 --> 1:32:00.639 Ago, didn't they. They were letting off flares inside the parliament there. 1:32:00.840 --> 1:32:03.000 South Korea, they storm the buildings. 1:32:03.520 --> 1:32:05.559 If we could do it to the Americans, Well, yeah, 1:32:06.120 --> 1:32:08.519 the issue at the moment, is it's actually be the coalition? 1:32:09.120 --> 1:32:09.639 Would people? 1:32:09.720 --> 1:32:12.559 No, I should say the Liberal Party now that it'll 1:32:12.600 --> 1:32:13.719 be fighting amongst themselves. 1:32:13.760 --> 1:32:16.160 Well, the timer would be app because you could say 1:32:16.200 --> 1:32:18.400 like sands through the hour glass. So the days of 1:32:18.439 --> 1:32:18.920 our lives. 1:32:19.000 --> 1:32:20.720 You know, it's a bit that way, isn't it. 1:32:21.080 --> 1:32:22.920 I'll certainly bring you the latest for the AEC because 1:32:22.920 --> 1:32:24.720 the count is continuing the south and and I note 1:32:24.760 --> 1:32:25.799 that the gzel cap tire. 1:32:25.680 --> 1:32:26.920 In three front front one. 1:32:27.080 --> 1:32:29.160 It's back down to one, back down to one, it's 1:32:29.200 --> 1:32:29.880 back down to one. 1:32:30.600 --> 1:32:32.599 Now is this because they're actually getting through a lot 1:32:32.800 --> 1:32:35.880 and the just oscillating or are they counting like one 1:32:35.920 --> 1:32:37.400 ballot every twenty minutes yet? 1:32:38.280 --> 1:32:40.840 From what I understand that the scrutin is, so you've 1:32:40.840 --> 1:32:42.479 got the people that are working with the Tals and 1:32:42.479 --> 1:32:45.040 those that are Liberals that they're taking it very slowly. 1:32:45.080 --> 1:32:49.000 Obviously they are looking at each individual ballot paper closely 1:32:49.360 --> 1:32:52.559 to figure out whether it's informal, whether it's valid with 1:32:52.680 --> 1:32:53.679 all the numbers have been. 1:32:53.560 --> 1:32:54.000 All the box. 1:32:54.600 --> 1:32:57.120 I'm a horrible cynic eleven years on overnights does that too. 1:32:57.160 --> 1:32:59.479 It's part of the vitamin D deficiency. But is it 1:32:59.560 --> 1:33:01.960 the case that correct me if I'm wrong here? 1:33:02.000 --> 1:33:03.000 But the tablets. 1:33:03.120 --> 1:33:06.240 If so, you listened to Russell said right, more like it. 1:33:06.880 --> 1:33:10.920 But if you were a liberal scrutiny, let's say, and 1:33:11.040 --> 1:33:14.320 it looked as though they put one where the Gizell 1:33:14.400 --> 1:33:16.920 kept hearing name was, but sort of stuffed the rest, 1:33:17.479 --> 1:33:20.040 are you more likely to say, I think we can 1:33:20.160 --> 1:33:22.320 count that. I think we can see the intent there, 1:33:22.320 --> 1:33:26.519 whereas if they put one beside, say miss Buller and 1:33:26.560 --> 1:33:27.320 stuff the reason. 1:33:27.960 --> 1:33:29.679 I think that's the way it works, Michael. And then 1:33:30.640 --> 1:33:33.880 with the scrutiny from the tiers, and then there's probably 1:33:33.920 --> 1:33:34.719 someone from the AEC. 1:33:34.920 --> 1:33:37.120 So this is why it takes a long time, I suspect. 1:33:37.160 --> 1:33:40.479 So okay, all right, And then of course we use 1:33:40.520 --> 1:33:42.519 pencils that were an issue of whether we'll hang on. 1:33:42.600 --> 1:33:45.160 There's an eraser may have been used there. 1:33:45.920 --> 1:33:48.000 There's a third of an inch of that one popped 1:33:48.000 --> 1:33:49.479 into the box above it. 1:33:50.960 --> 1:33:53.360 I know we have the debate about whether we should 1:33:53.400 --> 1:33:56.120 go digital, and that does bring complications in itself. I mean, 1:33:56.120 --> 1:33:57.920 look at the Comwealth Banks got problems this afternoon with 1:33:57.960 --> 1:34:01.080 their app. But it does seem antiquated. 1:34:01.240 --> 1:34:01.960 It's very slow. 1:34:02.160 --> 1:34:05.040 Look at least this and this isn't deciding who's empowered, 1:34:05.080 --> 1:34:07.479 and that's the good thing, thank goodness. But it was 1:34:07.520 --> 1:34:10.000 supposedly going to be a close election and it was 1:34:10.000 --> 1:34:11.640 going to come down to a few seats. So I 1:34:11.680 --> 1:34:12.439 think because it didn't. 1:34:12.479 --> 1:34:13.200 What else is coming up? 1:34:13.520 --> 1:34:16.360 The Fine and Risky Commissioner Jeremy Firtrell would join me 1:34:16.680 --> 1:34:19.040 this afternoon. A few house fires in the last twenty 1:34:19.040 --> 1:34:22.200 four hours, not necessarily sparked by electric bikes this time, 1:34:22.200 --> 1:34:24.240 but you would have noticed to see what you're wearing 1:34:24.240 --> 1:34:25.559 at the moment. You got a big puffer jacket on 1:34:25.560 --> 1:34:30.080 from Unichlo. It's obviously sparking a warning about heat. It 1:34:30.200 --> 1:34:34.000 is a smoke awareness day on Sunday. But the fire 1:34:34.000 --> 1:34:37.440 and Bonnie rig this morning it was as they're investigating 1:34:37.479 --> 1:34:41.200 the causes. The residents have admitted they had turned the 1:34:41.240 --> 1:34:44.720 smoke larms off because they cook a lot. So I'll 1:34:44.760 --> 1:34:47.040 speak with the commissioner about that in the program, and 1:34:47.080 --> 1:34:49.960 the latest on Penrith Council's threats to find one of 1:34:49.960 --> 1:34:53.719 our listeners, and I brought us the story yesterday that Andrew, 1:34:53.920 --> 1:34:58.840 who is a veteran and has a Bobcat, he used 1:34:58.880 --> 1:35:01.080 his Bobcat to clear a storm water drain. 1:35:01.360 --> 1:35:02.240 At least someone is. 1:35:02.360 --> 1:35:04.400 During the floods of last and parts of there's a 1:35:04.400 --> 1:35:06.280 lot of flash flooding in city last weekend. He's in 1:35:06.320 --> 1:35:09.000 London Dream cleaned out the storm water drain because it 1:35:09.040 --> 1:35:11.759 was threatened to flood his neighbor. Neighbor was very grateful 1:35:11.800 --> 1:35:15.439 because their house is dry and the debris pulled out 1:35:15.479 --> 1:35:17.200 of the storm water day and just just left it 1:35:17.280 --> 1:35:19.559 up on some of the grass. Of course, you know 1:35:19.560 --> 1:35:22.680 what the Council's done fight him, Well, they're threatened the 1:35:22.680 --> 1:35:25.439 police to investigate and laid charges and find him and 1:35:25.479 --> 1:35:28.320 they're going to send him a bill to remove the debris. 1:35:28.760 --> 1:35:31.679 The debris they're responsible for. So we went through that yesterday. 1:35:31.760 --> 1:35:33.920 We've got some formal response now from the council. I'll 1:35:33.960 --> 1:35:34.919 bring you that this afternoon. 1:35:35.040 --> 1:35:36.719 That'll be worth listening to it. I heard you yesterday 1:35:36.760 --> 1:35:37.320 speaking about that. 1:35:37.439 --> 1:35:39.920 Yeah, what I'm going to tell you about the council 1:35:39.920 --> 1:35:42.639 will blow your mind. Lego Master's back on TV Sunday 1:35:42.720 --> 1:35:45.080 night on Channel nine. Your daughter would love Lego Masters, 1:35:45.080 --> 1:35:46.320 she would Is she old enough yet? 1:35:46.360 --> 1:35:48.000 Yeah? Yeah, loves Lego. Loves Lego. 1:35:48.240 --> 1:35:49.519 The Brickman will be on the program. 1:35:49.560 --> 1:35:50.679 Okay, Oh, he's a lovely fellow. 1:35:50.720 --> 1:35:52.120 Brickman will be on the show. And Mark guy with 1:35:52.120 --> 1:35:52.960 all his footy tips. 1:35:53.000 --> 1:35:54.439 All right, great, thank you. 1:35:54.600 --> 1:35:55.960 He'll be tipping the Tigers, no doubt. 1:35:56.600 --> 1:36:00.439 Okay, well, no, I know again, I thought as disclosure, 1:36:00.479 --> 1:36:01.360 don't do my tips. 1:36:01.600 --> 1:36:04.240 Chuck does, and Chuck tip the Cowboys. 1:36:04.280 --> 1:36:05.600 Did Chuck tip the Sharks? 1:36:05.880 --> 1:36:07.840 I don't remember. All I know is you got none 1:36:07.840 --> 1:36:09.880 from five last week, so the Tigers. 1:36:09.479 --> 1:36:09.920 Have a chance. 1:36:10.160 --> 1:36:12.000 All yeah, A lot of us tipped one from five. 1:36:12.240 --> 1:36:13.519 I've tipped the Sharks this weekend. 1:36:13.600 --> 1:36:17.040 Oh my goodness, ye wow, oh there's a turn up 1:36:17.080 --> 1:36:17.479 for the books. 1:36:17.479 --> 1:36:19.240 They're playing the bi true. 1:36:19.520 --> 1:36:20.320 I forgot about that. 1:36:20.360 --> 1:36:23.400 Thanks Clinton, I should remember that Clinton Maynard would Sitney 1:36:23.439 --> 1:36:28.800 now straight after three. 1:36:30.360 --> 1:36:33.640 Good afternoon, Michael three. M Australia has sixty days to 1:36:33.680 --> 1:36:35.760 present a clean up plan for a quarry in the 1:36:35.760 --> 1:36:39.719 state's central West which is contaminated with cancer causing PFAS chemicals. 1:36:40.120 --> 1:36:43.559 The EPA says the remote location means there's little chance 1:36:43.640 --> 1:36:46.920 of human exposure. Two people have been rescued after becoming 1:36:46.960 --> 1:36:49.880 stranded on ROCKSI could you prompting life savers to issue 1:36:49.880 --> 1:36:52.360 are wanting to be careful along the coast with a 1:36:52.400 --> 1:36:56.439 hazardous surf warning for the weekend. Teenage boys been charged 1:36:56.479 --> 1:37:00.280 over Task Force Falcons discovery of a kill car in Guilford. 1:37:00.680 --> 1:37:04.400 The car had firearms, balaclavers and a jerrycan with fuel 1:37:04.400 --> 1:37:07.679 in it. And a paraglider in China who was testing 1:37:07.720 --> 1:37:10.439 some equipment has ended up a twenty eight thousand feet 1:37:10.520 --> 1:37:13.559 up when lifted by strong winds. He survived the altitude 1:37:13.600 --> 1:37:16.840 without oxygen, although his face and body work covered in ice. 1:37:17.240 --> 1:37:20.320 In sport, video has emerged of Tiger's five eighth Lachlan 1:37:20.400 --> 1:37:23.920 Galvin training with bulldogs at Belmore Sports Ground despite no 1:37:24.000 --> 1:37:27.160 official confirmation of him signing with the club. The nineteen 1:37:27.200 --> 1:37:30.160 year old is attempting to complete a messy split from 1:37:30.240 --> 1:37:32.839 the Tigers. And there'll be more news at three o'clock 1:37:33.760 --> 1:37:34.720 on afternoons. 1:37:34.960 --> 1:37:38.879 A finance update for Pretzel Wealth and finance for Trusted 1:37:38.920 --> 1:37:41.400 Financial Planning just Google Blake. 1:37:41.240 --> 1:37:42.080 Went to Pretzel. 1:37:43.080 --> 1:37:46.120 Well, as they say, generally speaking, some things go up, 1:37:46.160 --> 1:37:47.000 some things go down. 1:37:47.080 --> 1:37:49.040 One step four, two steps back, whatever it is. 1:37:49.400 --> 1:37:52.679 Scott Phillips from the Motleyfull dot com dot au retail 1:37:52.720 --> 1:37:56.519 spending data out today from the ABS, and I guess 1:37:56.520 --> 1:37:58.600 all of that ring true on that front, doesn't it. 1:37:58.880 --> 1:38:02.840 Scott call Gora and I think, yeah, that's pretty much right. Unfortunately, 1:38:02.880 --> 1:38:06.240 the bad news is retail sales fell for the month 1:38:06.360 --> 1:38:09.680 of April down zero point one percent. Now that's on 1:38:09.720 --> 1:38:12.320 the previous month on March lop three point eight percent 1:38:12.439 --> 1:38:14.920 for the year, but that point one percent decline is 1:38:14.960 --> 1:38:17.800 worth unpacking it. So household goods were up a little bit, 1:38:18.040 --> 1:38:20.679 clothing and footwear down two and a half percent, Department 1:38:20.680 --> 1:38:24.200 store spending down two and a half percent. Food also 1:38:24.320 --> 1:38:27.200 down three tenths of one percent, so a couple of 1:38:27.320 --> 1:38:29.880 key areas there. The games were in other retail and 1:38:29.960 --> 1:38:32.639 cafes and restaurants as well. As I said, household goods 1:38:33.000 --> 1:38:35.599 by state too unfortunate. New South Wales was the worst 1:38:35.840 --> 1:38:38.960 of the states and territories. Again, that minus zero point 1:38:39.000 --> 1:38:42.320 one percent nationally compares to a one percent fourth New 1:38:42.320 --> 1:38:45.519 South Wales aer point seven percent drop for the ac TEA. 1:38:45.560 --> 1:38:48.040 In fact, the only two states in positive territory were 1:38:48.120 --> 1:38:51.559 Queensland and Western Australia, so a bit of work to 1:38:51.600 --> 1:38:55.320 be done. Unfortunately, the simple reality is that we know 1:38:55.400 --> 1:38:58.400 after yesterday's CAPEX numbers. By the way, private capital expenditure 1:38:58.439 --> 1:39:01.280 also down by a time of one percent. There is 1:39:01.320 --> 1:39:03.640 some sense that maybe the economy is just slowing a 1:39:03.680 --> 1:39:05.880 little bit, whether it's confidence on the back of these 1:39:05.880 --> 1:39:08.479 tariff news, whether it's simply business is not prepared to 1:39:08.479 --> 1:39:11.000 put that money to work just in case. But yeah, 1:39:11.680 --> 1:39:13.479 the wind is not exactly at our back to the moment, 1:39:13.520 --> 1:39:17.000 not exactly at our front either. But it's interesting times 1:39:17.000 --> 1:39:19.439 and probably pressing actually in the event, the ABS did 1:39:19.680 --> 1:39:21.800 the AES, the IBA did decide to cut rates last 1:39:21.800 --> 1:39:23.960 month because we may well need that support if these 1:39:23.960 --> 1:39:24.960 things continue to weaken. 1:39:25.360 --> 1:39:27.519 All right, now, the markets and the dollar today because 1:39:27.560 --> 1:39:30.320 in US tariffs are legal and now they're not unless 1:39:30.360 --> 1:39:32.760 they are, And so that's throwing things around a bit, 1:39:32.800 --> 1:39:33.160 isn't it. 1:39:33.560 --> 1:39:34.160 Yeah, you know it. 1:39:34.160 --> 1:39:36.000 In fact, the last one so far at least is 1:39:36.040 --> 1:39:39.240 they are now neither legal nor legal. The court found 1:39:39.240 --> 1:39:40.840 they were illegal the Court of Appeal, so though we 1:39:40.840 --> 1:39:42.519 have put that aside and wait for an appeal to 1:39:42.560 --> 1:39:45.320 be heard. So the tariff remained in place until that appeal. 1:39:45.600 --> 1:39:47.640 The market's been topsy turvy today. Spend the morning in 1:39:47.680 --> 1:39:49.680 the red. The early part of the afternoon of the 1:39:49.720 --> 1:39:51.519 green back in the red before two o'clock, but the 1:39:51.560 --> 1:39:54.439 last little while just poked its head above water again 1:39:54.800 --> 1:39:56.880 up about oh, I mean less than a tenth of 1:39:56.920 --> 1:40:00.759 one percent eighty six hundred and forty four points GASI 1:40:00.800 --> 1:40:03.160 dollar needive against all the major currencies in coulding against 1:40:03.160 --> 1:40:05.280 the US dollar, but only again by the slightest of 1:40:05.320 --> 1:40:08.200 margins sixty four point two nine US set. 1:40:08.280 --> 1:40:10.439 Okay, Scott, thank you, We'll catch you next week. 1:40:10.479 --> 1:40:13.080 Have a lovely weekend, Scot Phillips there from the Motley 1:40:13.120 --> 1:40:15.760 fool full dot com dot e you. It's about twenty 1:40:15.760 --> 1:40:17.600 four minutes to three. Will take a break when we 1:40:17.640 --> 1:40:20.400 come back. Looking forward to speaking to Warick Stacy. He 1:40:20.520 --> 1:40:23.640 snagged that sixth Senate seat in New South Wales. He 1:40:23.720 --> 1:40:27.040 goes in as one nation's fourth senator. That equals their 1:40:27.080 --> 1:40:29.880 best ever result of a federal election. But Warick Stacy 1:40:30.000 --> 1:40:32.320 is a very very interesting human being. I've met him 1:40:32.320 --> 1:40:35.479 a few times, great communicator, and I think you'll make 1:40:35.479 --> 1:40:37.559 a great senator. Look forward to speaking to him after this. 1:40:38.000 --> 1:40:40.400 Right on twenty to three, bank smack on it. Thank 1:40:40.400 --> 1:40:42.320 you for your company this afternoon, one three, one, eight 1:40:42.400 --> 1:40:44.280 seven three, of course, is our open line number track 1:40:44.320 --> 1:40:46.920 of the day coming up as well. Now, look, many 1:40:47.000 --> 1:40:49.880 have been focusing politically on these seats Bradfield, they're still 1:40:49.920 --> 1:40:52.080 counting there, of course, Goldstein and cou. 1:40:52.040 --> 1:40:53.240 Yong in Melbourne. 1:40:53.640 --> 1:40:56.160 But there has been another political story bubbling away below 1:40:56.200 --> 1:40:58.320 the surface. It's the one that usually drags out and 1:40:58.360 --> 1:41:03.120 it's the Senate. But One Nation, Pauline Hansen can feel 1:41:03.479 --> 1:41:08.080 pretty buoyant today because the final seats in WA and 1:41:08.160 --> 1:41:10.200 New South Wales have been decided and they've gone to 1:41:10.240 --> 1:41:13.679 her candidates. One nation has seen I think their equal 1:41:13.720 --> 1:41:17.320 best result now four senators in total. I don't know 1:41:17.360 --> 1:41:19.120 what sort of difference it's going to make, because between 1:41:19.200 --> 1:41:21.840 Labour and the Greens, the left of politics will control 1:41:21.880 --> 1:41:25.800 the Senate. But nonetheless, a greater presence gives you a 1:41:25.840 --> 1:41:28.439 greater ability, I would say, to start prosecuting the case 1:41:28.439 --> 1:41:31.639 and hold governments to account. So we've seen Malcolm Roberts 1:41:31.680 --> 1:41:34.240 reelected this time around. Paulin Hanson of course still has 1:41:34.240 --> 1:41:37.519 her seat, but now they'll be joined by Tyron Witten, 1:41:38.080 --> 1:41:40.559 Senate of a Western Australia. I don't know anything about him, 1:41:40.920 --> 1:41:43.960 but my next guest, I do Warreck Stacey. He's picked 1:41:44.000 --> 1:41:47.360 up the final spot in the new South Wales Senate. Now, 1:41:47.760 --> 1:41:50.080 Warreck's got quite the background. I believe he was born 1:41:50.160 --> 1:41:52.799 and raised here but then moved to Europe in his twenties. 1:41:52.800 --> 1:41:55.720 He eventually joined the Armed Services. Plenty of his time 1:41:55.840 --> 1:41:58.040 was with the British Army, including I think spending time 1:41:58.080 --> 1:42:01.120 in the Sas before coming back to Australia to serve 1:42:01.160 --> 1:42:04.719 in our Army Reserve. An interesting history. Now, I've seen 1:42:04.760 --> 1:42:08.280 Warick present to audiences on a number of occasions in 1:42:08.320 --> 1:42:11.120 the company of Professor David Flynt, and I can tell 1:42:11.120 --> 1:42:14.240 you this man is a very very gifted orator, no notes, 1:42:14.360 --> 1:42:18.840 just bang, and very inspirational in engaging in the way 1:42:18.880 --> 1:42:22.720 he speaks. With that military background, I'm quite confident in 1:42:22.760 --> 1:42:25.519 saying will make a very positive contribution not just to 1:42:25.560 --> 1:42:28.040 the Senate but Australia's politics over the next six years. 1:42:28.560 --> 1:42:30.479 And I'm also very glad to say Warwick Stacey's with 1:42:30.560 --> 1:42:33.240 me on the line. Warick, nice to speak with you again. 1:42:34.160 --> 1:42:36.080 Michael, Thank you very much and thank you for that 1:42:36.439 --> 1:42:39.160 for your very kind words. The point I'd like to 1:42:39.160 --> 1:42:42.920 make about your point about a greater presence in the 1:42:42.960 --> 1:42:46.040 Senate means it will have a greater voice, and I 1:42:46.080 --> 1:42:48.799 shall certainly be there with Pauline and Malcolm and Tyrone 1:42:49.520 --> 1:42:50.600 speaking for Australia. 1:42:51.320 --> 1:42:54.280 Okay, now I should probably address you a Senator Stacey. 1:42:54.280 --> 1:42:55.080 Shouldn't they forgive me? 1:42:55.120 --> 1:42:57.759 For that's what Senator elect. 1:42:57.680 --> 1:42:59.880 Senator elect off to be very precise, quite right. 1:43:00.560 --> 1:43:02.360 But otherwise Warri, it's fine, Worri, it's fine. 1:43:02.560 --> 1:43:05.559 Let's stick with Wrick. What's top of the agenda when 1:43:05.600 --> 1:43:06.400 you get to Canberra. 1:43:07.520 --> 1:43:11.320 Well, I think the first thing is to certainly continue 1:43:11.320 --> 1:43:15.639 to prosecute out the policies that we took to the election, 1:43:16.040 --> 1:43:19.479 and that is basically to put money back into people's pockets, 1:43:20.040 --> 1:43:25.000 to stop the waste, the government waste. We're looking at 1:43:25.040 --> 1:43:29.680 saving ninety billion dollars and there were areas which we 1:43:30.240 --> 1:43:33.519 already determined where that could be done. And so really 1:43:33.600 --> 1:43:39.360 just pursuing our election points, and that includes also stopping 1:43:39.360 --> 1:43:42.160 the madness with the net zero. 1:43:42.920 --> 1:43:43.320 Just on that. 1:43:43.880 --> 1:43:45.360 Just let me just put in there, because a lot 1:43:45.360 --> 1:43:48.080 of listeners Warrick say, look, okay, net zero, whether we 1:43:48.200 --> 1:43:50.720 stick with it or not, legislated or not, may not 1:43:50.760 --> 1:43:52.600 even matter because everyone around the world is doing it, 1:43:52.640 --> 1:43:54.960 but none of them will probably meet it. So yeah, 1:43:54.960 --> 1:43:57.120 one goes down, they all go down. But just from 1:43:57.160 --> 1:44:01.920 a purely practical point of view, let's say governmentally we 1:44:01.960 --> 1:44:05.720 stick with zero's legislation by twenty fifty, can we achieve 1:44:05.880 --> 1:44:09.000 that without nuclear power? 1:44:10.720 --> 1:44:11.320 Well? 1:44:11.360 --> 1:44:11.840 Could? I say? 1:44:11.840 --> 1:44:14.280 First of all, the fact that everybody around the world 1:44:14.360 --> 1:44:17.360 is doing it doesn't mean that it's right and that 1:44:17.439 --> 1:44:20.200 we should be doing it. So I mean that's I 1:44:20.200 --> 1:44:23.240 think it's an absurd position to take. And to come 1:44:23.280 --> 1:44:25.639 back to your second point, No, it can't be done 1:44:25.680 --> 1:44:29.800 without nuclear power, and so that's another hurdle that. 1:44:29.840 --> 1:44:30.639 Has to be crossed. 1:44:31.000 --> 1:44:33.439 But it's it's not just the and whether it's as 1:44:33.479 --> 1:44:36.519 you say, whether people and it's failed. I mean, the 1:44:36.520 --> 1:44:39.479 Paris Agreement has failed. All the signatories as soon as 1:44:39.520 --> 1:44:41.760 the ink was dry, they went home and they can 1:44:41.840 --> 1:44:45.240 just continue to do what they were doing. They had 1:44:45.280 --> 1:44:50.960 no intention of meeting their supposed obligations. And this is 1:44:51.520 --> 1:44:55.000 it's the cost of the role out that is destroying Australia. 1:44:56.680 --> 1:44:59.559 It's just this mad rush to this eighty two percent 1:45:00.040 --> 1:45:04.000 Noble's target. It's what's causing the huge spikes, the huge 1:45:04.040 --> 1:45:07.599 increases in people's electricity bills if I wonder what that's 1:45:07.600 --> 1:45:10.120 coming from, which I just saw recently and in fact 1:45:10.160 --> 1:45:13.280 a very good article by Judas Sloan some weeks ago. 1:45:13.360 --> 1:45:16.759 She said that ten thousand killer meter is it thirty 1:45:16.800 --> 1:45:21.080 thousand kilo meters? Nobody seems to know of transmission lines 1:45:22.560 --> 1:45:25.519 have to be constructed. So and that's of course, is 1:45:25.560 --> 1:45:31.519 going to cut through farmland, and it's going through the 1:45:31.560 --> 1:45:34.680 Kosiasco National Park at the moment, destroying that. And it 1:45:34.760 --> 1:45:38.400 just brings to mind the phrase it was used during 1:45:38.400 --> 1:45:40.760 the Vietnam or we had to destroy the village to 1:45:40.800 --> 1:45:44.560 save it, and we've now got Bowen and the environmentalists 1:45:44.600 --> 1:45:48.320 destroying our environment supposedly to save it. So there's a 1:45:48.520 --> 1:45:52.280 huge cost. But again back to your point, nuclear has 1:45:52.280 --> 1:45:54.400 to be on the table. But also I think what 1:45:54.520 --> 1:45:58.840 we can have is net zero is zero. You have 1:45:58.920 --> 1:46:03.000 high efficiencies, zero zero emission coal fired power stations. We 1:46:03.120 --> 1:46:06.559 have the cleanest, the finest call in the world. There's 1:46:06.720 --> 1:46:11.639 this new technology zero emissions from coal fired power stations. 1:46:11.720 --> 1:46:12.840 Why aren't we doing that? 1:46:14.040 --> 1:46:17.479 Just on the point of the military, I mean, that's 1:46:17.520 --> 1:46:20.280 a very significant part of your background. And when I 1:46:20.320 --> 1:46:22.680 met you that came across very strongly. Just in the 1:46:22.720 --> 1:46:24.920 way you presented, you could tell you were a military man, 1:46:24.960 --> 1:46:28.639 and that's a great compliment. Obviously Australia faces and everyone 1:46:28.640 --> 1:46:31.240 agrees left right center, doesn't matter that we face some 1:46:31.280 --> 1:46:36.040 of the most challenging geo strategic circumstances, probably since Vietnam, 1:46:36.040 --> 1:46:38.280 which you mentioned, but perhaps even since World War II. 1:46:39.040 --> 1:46:41.280 A lot of people say we are just not prepared 1:46:41.320 --> 1:46:43.320 in Australia, not just from a military point of view, 1:46:43.320 --> 1:46:46.160 but from an entire industrial point of view. The late 1:46:46.160 --> 1:46:48.880 Great Jim Molan made that point in that Gift to 1:46:48.920 --> 1:46:51.479 the Nation, his final book to the Nation. I wonder 1:46:51.520 --> 1:46:53.519 how many canber have actually read it, but they should have. 1:46:54.520 --> 1:46:57.599 You will no doubt be prosecuting that case through your 1:46:57.680 --> 1:46:58.639 role now in the Senate. 1:47:00.320 --> 1:47:04.679 Well indeed, and again it's I mean, I look at Australia, 1:47:05.320 --> 1:47:07.000 I hold my head in my hands sometimes and I 1:47:07.000 --> 1:47:09.880 wonder what the bureaucrats are doing. The Department of Defense 1:47:09.920 --> 1:47:13.200 has done nothing but waste money over I think, if 1:47:13.240 --> 1:47:15.679 you like, my lifetime back in Australia since I returned 1:47:15.720 --> 1:47:19.639 to Australia in the late nineteen eighties, and as you say, 1:47:20.000 --> 1:47:22.439 I joined the Army Reserve. When I returned, I wanted 1:47:22.479 --> 1:47:27.280 to be an Australian soldier. And it's it's just been 1:47:27.680 --> 1:47:31.240 unmitigated waste, one thing after another. So the Sea Sprite 1:47:31.280 --> 1:47:34.120 helicopter is one point three billion, it never even flew. 1:47:34.680 --> 1:47:39.280 We've had the Armored Reconnaissance helicopter who's never fully commissioned 1:47:39.680 --> 1:47:43.720 before it was binned and something else was bought. The 1:47:44.040 --> 1:47:49.280 MRH ninety that it crashed sadly with four lives lost 1:47:50.000 --> 1:47:52.839 two years ago, but what just a knee jerk reaction. 1:47:53.880 --> 1:47:56.479 The whole fleet was grounded. It's since been found that 1:47:56.560 --> 1:47:59.600 it was pilot era eight or ten. Armies around the 1:47:59.640 --> 1:48:01.759 world still flying the MRH ninety. 1:48:01.800 --> 1:48:02.479 What did we do? 1:48:02.800 --> 1:48:05.639 We cut up our forty six aircraft, nearly a billion 1:48:05.720 --> 1:48:09.599 dollars worth of equipment and buried it. And who took 1:48:09.600 --> 1:48:13.280 this decision? And so what we've had is waste. The 1:48:13.320 --> 1:48:16.720 Prime Minister I saw he was He commented the other 1:48:16.800 --> 1:48:21.400 day on a report from the IPA and claiming that 1:48:21.439 --> 1:48:25.439 it was a report written by coalition former coalition people 1:48:25.479 --> 1:48:27.519 that they needed to take a good look at themselves. 1:48:27.560 --> 1:48:29.080 And I think he needs to take a good look 1:48:29.080 --> 1:48:32.719 at himself because he said, we look at the amount 1:48:32.720 --> 1:48:35.400 of money we're spending. It seems to me that both 1:48:35.439 --> 1:48:38.799 this government and there I say, the previous coalition government, 1:48:39.160 --> 1:48:41.719 they measure everything by the amount of money they spend. 1:48:41.800 --> 1:48:43.519 They don't look at the results, they don't look at 1:48:43.520 --> 1:48:46.200 the outcomes, they don't look at whether what they spent 1:48:46.240 --> 1:48:48.840 the money on was actually going to is going to 1:48:48.840 --> 1:48:50.040 do what it's supposed to do. 1:48:50.439 --> 1:48:51.080 And so from the. 1:48:51.000 --> 1:48:53.720 Prime Minister, the only metric Key's interested in is the 1:48:53.720 --> 1:48:56.439 money that is spent, not looking at the equipment. With 1:48:56.760 --> 1:49:01.639 that we get the whether it's needed or not, whether 1:49:01.640 --> 1:49:03.320 it's going to work or not, whether it's going to 1:49:03.320 --> 1:49:05.559 do what it says it does it's supposed to do 1:49:05.600 --> 1:49:08.719 on the tin. And so unless there's a change there. 1:49:09.479 --> 1:49:14.320 I mean, these frigates that we're buying, apparently it's about 1:49:14.360 --> 1:49:17.320 forty five billion dollars worth of frigate I think from 1:49:17.360 --> 1:49:21.840 memory it's about nine billion dollars each, and they've been 1:49:22.120 --> 1:49:25.679 I think they're in the design phase. They're supposedly top heavy. 1:49:26.040 --> 1:49:30.160 They don't have enough miss missile silos. The fifth generation 1:49:30.240 --> 1:49:33.920 frigates today have ninety six silos. This one's got about 1:49:33.920 --> 1:49:37.439 thirty five or thirty six, and yet we're plowing ahead 1:49:37.439 --> 1:49:40.280 with it forty five billion dollars. And I've seen the 1:49:40.320 --> 1:49:43.840 South Koreans can build a frigate for a billion one 1:49:43.880 --> 1:49:49.320 billion dollars, so one billion Australian dollars. So why why 1:49:49.360 --> 1:49:52.240 we are not buying off the shelf equipment that's been proven, 1:49:52.320 --> 1:49:57.600 it's been tested and it's operationally ready is beyond my comprehension. 1:49:57.800 --> 1:50:02.439 It just seems that we just spend on material that 1:50:02.600 --> 1:50:05.479 hasn't been designed that or if we do buy it 1:50:05.520 --> 1:50:08.559 off the shelf, we cut it in half at an 1:50:08.600 --> 1:50:11.040 extra ten or fifteen meetings and then expect it to work. 1:50:11.280 --> 1:50:12.600 A lot a lot of that, as you know, is 1:50:12.640 --> 1:50:15.360 about propping up jobs in Adelaide. Now before you go, 1:50:15.680 --> 1:50:17.639 a fan of yours are just called through. Finally enough 1:50:17.680 --> 1:50:19.800 Pauline of Queensland. I think it says here on the 1:50:19.800 --> 1:50:22.400 open line, Pauline, good afternoon. 1:50:22.680 --> 1:50:26.080 Good afternoon, and gratulations Warwick. I haven't had a chance 1:50:26.120 --> 1:50:28.040 to speak to you. I sent you a message, but 1:50:28.960 --> 1:50:31.080 I am so happy for you, But not in that. 1:50:31.240 --> 1:50:33.559 I'm so happy for the people Astra, especially those people 1:50:33.600 --> 1:50:35.920 in New South Wales who had the common sense of ope, 1:50:35.920 --> 1:50:38.559 for you, you know, just listening to you again, Warwick, 1:50:38.640 --> 1:50:41.160 and I have heard you speak before, and the fact 1:50:41.240 --> 1:50:43.120 is that this is why you're a good fit with 1:50:43.160 --> 1:50:45.439 one nation. You want accountability, you want to know where 1:50:45.439 --> 1:50:48.000 the tax dollars are going. You want, you know, to 1:50:48.560 --> 1:50:50.599 do a lot for defense. I know that's dar too. 1:50:50.640 --> 1:50:53.240 Heart is defense, and you know that's why we had 1:50:53.280 --> 1:50:56.240 you and chose you to be the Senate lead Senate candidate. 1:50:56.479 --> 1:50:59.400 And I am so pleased to see that actually one 1:50:59.479 --> 1:51:01.760 year seat. I'm going to look forward to working with 1:51:01.800 --> 1:51:03.120 you closely on the Flora Parliament. 1:51:03.200 --> 1:51:06.080 So congratulations now, Pauline Hanson, before you go, you're telling 1:51:06.120 --> 1:51:08.200 me you haven't yet been able to congratulate Warick. You 1:51:08.200 --> 1:51:09.479 had to do it on my show. Was that what 1:51:09.520 --> 1:51:10.040 you're saying? 1:51:10.439 --> 1:51:11.479 Well, I did personally. 1:51:11.520 --> 1:51:11.720 Yeah. 1:51:11.800 --> 1:51:13.679 So I had to send him a text message because 1:51:13.720 --> 1:51:16.679 he never picked up my call. But anyway, of course 1:51:16.720 --> 1:51:22.600 he's overseas, it's not but I'm so thrilled. I was 1:51:22.680 --> 1:51:26.840 just so shocked. I was thrilled and also surprised when 1:51:26.920 --> 1:51:29.040 I was told this morning that we'd run the seat 1:51:29.120 --> 1:51:33.360 the same as with Tyrone and just missed out on 1:51:33.479 --> 1:51:40.080 Victoria as well. Just clearly missed out on that seat. 1:51:38.000 --> 1:51:40.439 Just in Tasmania. You've done very well. There'll be four 1:51:40.479 --> 1:51:42.240 of you in the Upper House. Pauline, thank you for 1:51:42.240 --> 1:51:44.800 the call. Warick, I've got a clearer commercial break, but 1:51:44.840 --> 1:51:46.320 thank you for your time and we look forward to 1:51:46.400 --> 1:51:48.920 watching your now senatorial career. 1:51:49.760 --> 1:51:52.679 Thank you, Thank you, Michael, Thank you Pauline too. I'm 1:51:52.760 --> 1:51:53.960 grateful for the opportunity. 1:51:54.320 --> 1:51:56.960 Warwick Stacey, Senator elect for New South Wales. 1:51:57.080 --> 1:51:58.720 Okay, we're almost out of time, but I've got to 1:51:58.720 --> 1:52:01.200 give away a double pass to Ireland, orchestrated starring the 1:52:01.200 --> 1:52:03.439 magnificent Damien leif Thiss is track of the day. 1:52:03.479 --> 1:52:04.320 Here's your question. 1:52:04.439 --> 1:52:08.320 One three one eight seven three, Which Cadbury product was 1:52:08.360 --> 1:52:12.559 first produced in Tasmania on this day in nineteen twenty eight. 1:52:12.600 --> 1:52:16.120 Which Cadbury product was first produced in Tasmania on this 1:52:16.240 --> 1:52:19.160 day in nineteen twenty eight. This song might give you 1:52:19.160 --> 1:52:43.559 a bit of a clue my old theme song. Okay, 1:52:43.680 --> 1:52:46.639 so a bit of hot chocolate there, which Cadbury product 1:52:46.640 --> 1:52:48.759 was first produced in Tazy on this day in nineteen 1:52:48.800 --> 1:52:50.840 twenty eight. If you know one three one eight seven 1:52:50.880 --> 1:52:53.400 three and a double pass to Island orchestrated starring the 1:52:53.400 --> 1:52:56.120 magnificent Damien Leith as yours. He is the voice that 1:52:56.240 --> 1:52:58.920 stole our heart. And of course it's Saturday May thirty one. 1:52:59.360 --> 1:53:02.960 Joanavisk Gosford, well done. Of course the answer was Dairy Milk, 1:53:03.080 --> 1:53:05.360 the Dairy Milk chocolate first produced on this day back 1:53:05.400 --> 1:53:07.679 in nineteen twenty eight. And Tazzy, You're off to Sea Island, 1:53:07.800 --> 1:53:10.519 orchestrated with Damien Leith on Saturday May the thirty first 1:53:10.520 --> 1:53:12.439 at the iconic State Theater in Sydney. That will be 1:53:12.439 --> 1:53:15.080 a wonderful night. Yes, I believe the Commonwealth Bank's still 1:53:15.080 --> 1:53:15.679 having some issue. 1:53:15.720 --> 1:53:16.280 No, it's fixed. 1:53:16.320 --> 1:53:19.880 The Commonwealth Bank have fixed their issue with the online banking, 1:53:19.920 --> 1:53:20.800 so that is good news. 1:53:20.800 --> 1:53:21.679 Clinton is next