WEBVTT - 50-years after Jaws, we risk a future without sharks

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you this.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to have a chat with this gentleman

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<v Speaker 2>last night. He is a shark scientist from the Australian

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<v Speaker 2>Marine Conservation Society. And did you know that it's almost

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much to the day fifty years ago that the

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<v Speaker 2>movie Jaws came out, one of the greatest films, one

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<v Speaker 2>of the really important films. Scared the hell out of me,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, people were petrified if you go back

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<v Speaker 2>to those days, if you remember, people saw that film

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<v Speaker 2>and they were petrified to go in the water. And

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<v Speaker 2>the shark music didn't help either. So I had a

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<v Speaker 2>chat with the doctor Leonardo Guider, the shark scientist, I said,

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<v Speaker 2>fifty years after Jaws, you know, and he's obviously he's

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<v Speaker 2>a conservationist too because he wants to talk about you know,

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<v Speaker 2>shark's just doing shark things.

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<v Speaker 1>But I said to him, how did you get into this?

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<v Speaker 1>It's a favorite of mine.

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<v Speaker 3>I was born in eighty five, so it's out about

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<v Speaker 3>ten years after it first came out. As a little boy,

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<v Speaker 3>I loved monster stories, I loved predatory animals.

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<v Speaker 1>I won't lie.

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<v Speaker 3>The movie scared me, but at the same time it

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<v Speaker 3>also inspired a lifelong passion for sharks, and I'm very

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<v Speaker 3>privileged today to not only have studied them, but also

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<v Speaker 3>work with their conservation in the oceans.

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<v Speaker 2>When I saw that film, I also had a fascination

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<v Speaker 2>for sharks, which I couldn't even try to describe to you.

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<v Speaker 3>To be honest, the best way I can put it

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<v Speaker 3>this is only from a personal perspective, is I love

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<v Speaker 3>things at the extremes of existence. And by that I

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<v Speaker 3>mean I'm a marine biologist and I love sharks.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like the most extreme motion predator.

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<v Speaker 3>If I wasn't a ring biologist, I'd be an astrophysicist,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'd.

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<v Speaker 1>Look slightly black.

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<v Speaker 3>Hold again, like everything's in new discovery and marrying that

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<v Speaker 3>passion with my natural curiosity and love of science. I

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<v Speaker 3>followed my heart as it were, and yeah, I'm now

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<v Speaker 3>today working for the conservation of these animals.

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<v Speaker 2>The shark thrilled us in the movie Jaws. It got

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<v Speaker 2>a really bad rap because a shark is only doing

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<v Speaker 2>what a shark knows to do, and that is to

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<v Speaker 2>be a predator in its own domain.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, sharks have got a bad raps.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Jaws, and you know it's commonly owned of the

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<v Speaker 3>unquote jaws effect and how that's shaped people's perceptions and

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<v Speaker 3>sharks and how we coexist with them, whether it be

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<v Speaker 3>through aspects of beach safety or even how we go

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<v Speaker 3>about our commercial fishing and the things.

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<v Speaker 1>In Australia, we'll have three hundred and thirty one species

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<v Speaker 1>of sharks and rays.

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<v Speaker 3>One hundred and eighty or so of them shark species,

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<v Speaker 3>and the realities is some of the range from only

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<v Speaker 3>a meter long living over a kilometer under the waves,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you have balls, tigers and whites. A healthy

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<v Speaker 3>ocean has healthy populations of sharks, and the reality is

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<v Speaker 3>is we need healthy products of sharks to enjoy our oceans.

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<v Speaker 1>And our lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the biggest great white that's ever been observed?

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<v Speaker 3>They do get quite larger, and by larger, looking at

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<v Speaker 3>adults that can be anywhere from four to six meters,

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<v Speaker 3>so absolutely huge.

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<v Speaker 1>I was absolutely bob. SPEC's actually how calm and.

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<v Speaker 3>Placidly are she swam past the cage and she's had

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<v Speaker 3>four and a half meters.

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<v Speaker 1>She had an eye the size of a dinner plate.

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<v Speaker 3>And we look at it back close, and it looks

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<v Speaker 3>at you and you see it turn you realize it's small.

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<v Speaker 1>Interest in animal This is a thinking thing that has existed.

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<v Speaker 1>This pointed from into years and we're just at a.

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<v Speaker 2>Moment I read that a shark has to just keep

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<v Speaker 2>moving forward its entire life, otherwise it will die.

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<v Speaker 3>Sharks are so varied in how they live their lives,

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<v Speaker 3>so they should have to ram through the water constantly

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<v Speaker 3>to fushwater over the kills and get oxygen.

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<v Speaker 1>But some sharks are capable of what they call buckle.

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<v Speaker 3>Pumping, so this is literally at risk on the ground,

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<v Speaker 3>opening an ouris and popping water through. And this is

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<v Speaker 3>quite prominently a lot of small sharks.

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<v Speaker 1>So generally speaking, a lot of sharks have to move

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<v Speaker 1>to breathe. But it's amazing how to.

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<v Speaker 3>Burst they are and how they are able to live

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<v Speaker 3>their lives.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, some of them just happy to just sit

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<v Speaker 1>down and chill for a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>What about in that scene from Jaws where they cut

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<v Speaker 2>the shark open and they found all kinds of things

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<v Speaker 2>like number plates, Is it true that the shark will

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<v Speaker 2>eat anything?

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<v Speaker 3>Tiger success plates, They found boles, random different items.

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<v Speaker 2>Give us an amazing shark fact that we need to know.

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<v Speaker 3>Species called Reo spur dog. It's only found in Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>It lives more than colomitable at waves, and it has

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<v Speaker 3>one of the longest pregnancies in the vertebrate kingdom, and

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<v Speaker 3>that is nearly three years.

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<v Speaker 2>You've just given me one thing. I never knew either,

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<v Speaker 2>that baby sharks are called pops.

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<v Speaker 1>What about that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, bose sharks called pops and some sharks believe it

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<v Speaker 3>or not, put the majority of.

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<v Speaker 1>Them at some sharks lay eggs, stop it. So I

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<v Speaker 1>suppose you could call them things as well.

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<v Speaker 2>How about that, doctor Leonardo Guida, the sharks scientists, the

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<v Speaker 2>Australian Marine Conservation Society, and as I mentioned, fifty years

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<v Speaker 2>to the day for the movie Jaws,