Speaker 1: Let me tell you this.
Speaker 2: I was going to have a chat with this gentleman
Speaker 2: last night. He is a shark scientist from the Australian
Speaker 2: Marine Conservation Society. And did you know that it's almost
Speaker 2: pretty much to the day fifty years ago that the
Speaker 2: movie Jaws came out, one of the greatest films, one
Speaker 2: of the really important films. Scared the hell out of me,
Speaker 2: and you know, people were petrified if you go back
Speaker 2: to those days, if you remember, people saw that film
Speaker 2: and they were petrified to go in the water. And
Speaker 2: the shark music didn't help either. So I had a
Speaker 2: chat with the doctor Leonardo Guider, the shark scientist, I said,
Speaker 2: fifty years after Jaws, you know, and he's obviously he's
Speaker 2: a conservationist too because he wants to talk about you know,
Speaker 2: shark's just doing shark things.
Speaker 1: But I said to him, how did you get into this?
Speaker 1: It's a favorite of mine.
Speaker 3: I was born in eighty five, so it's out about
Speaker 3: ten years after it first came out. As a little boy,
Speaker 3: I loved monster stories, I loved predatory animals.
Speaker 1: I won't lie.
Speaker 3: The movie scared me, but at the same time it
Speaker 3: also inspired a lifelong passion for sharks, and I'm very
Speaker 3: privileged today to not only have studied them, but also
Speaker 3: work with their conservation in the oceans.
Speaker 2: When I saw that film, I also had a fascination
Speaker 2: for sharks, which I couldn't even try to describe to you.
Speaker 3: To be honest, the best way I can put it
Speaker 3: this is only from a personal perspective, is I love
Speaker 3: things at the extremes of existence. And by that I
Speaker 3: mean I'm a marine biologist and I love sharks.
Speaker 1: They're like the most extreme motion predator.
Speaker 3: If I wasn't a ring biologist, I'd be an astrophysicist,
Speaker 3: and I'd.
Speaker 1: Look slightly black.
Speaker 3: Hold again, like everything's in new discovery and marrying that
Speaker 3: passion with my natural curiosity and love of science. I
Speaker 3: followed my heart as it were, and yeah, I'm now
Speaker 3: today working for the conservation of these animals.
Speaker 2: The shark thrilled us in the movie Jaws. It got
Speaker 2: a really bad rap because a shark is only doing
Speaker 2: what a shark knows to do, and that is to
Speaker 2: be a predator in its own domain.
Speaker 1: Exactly, sharks have got a bad raps.
Speaker 3: It's Jaws, and you know it's commonly owned of the
Speaker 3: unquote jaws effect and how that's shaped people's perceptions and
Speaker 3: sharks and how we coexist with them, whether it be
Speaker 3: through aspects of beach safety or even how we go
Speaker 3: about our commercial fishing and the things.
Speaker 1: In Australia, we'll have three hundred and thirty one species
Speaker 1: of sharks and rays.
Speaker 3: One hundred and eighty or so of them shark species,
Speaker 3: and the realities is some of the range from only
Speaker 3: a meter long living over a kilometer under the waves,
Speaker 3: and then you have balls, tigers and whites. A healthy
Speaker 3: ocean has healthy populations of sharks, and the reality is
Speaker 3: is we need healthy products of sharks to enjoy our oceans.
Speaker 1: And our lifestyle.
Speaker 2: What's the biggest great white that's ever been observed?
Speaker 3: They do get quite larger, and by larger, looking at
Speaker 3: adults that can be anywhere from four to six meters,
Speaker 3: so absolutely huge.
Speaker 1: I was absolutely bob. SPEC's actually how calm and.
Speaker 3: Placidly are she swam past the cage and she's had
Speaker 3: four and a half meters.
Speaker 1: She had an eye the size of a dinner plate.
Speaker 3: And we look at it back close, and it looks
Speaker 3: at you and you see it turn you realize it's small.
Speaker 1: Interest in animal This is a thinking thing that has existed.
Speaker 1: This pointed from into years and we're just at a.
Speaker 2: Moment I read that a shark has to just keep
Speaker 2: moving forward its entire life, otherwise it will die.
Speaker 3: Sharks are so varied in how they live their lives,
Speaker 3: so they should have to ram through the water constantly
Speaker 3: to fushwater over the kills and get oxygen.
Speaker 1: But some sharks are capable of what they call buckle.
Speaker 3: Pumping, so this is literally at risk on the ground,
Speaker 3: opening an ouris and popping water through. And this is
Speaker 3: quite prominently a lot of small sharks.
Speaker 1: So generally speaking, a lot of sharks have to move
Speaker 1: to breathe. But it's amazing how to.
Speaker 3: Burst they are and how they are able to live
Speaker 3: their lives.
Speaker 1: And yeah, some of them just happy to just sit
Speaker 1: down and chill for a bit.
Speaker 2: What about in that scene from Jaws where they cut
Speaker 2: the shark open and they found all kinds of things
Speaker 2: like number plates, Is it true that the shark will
Speaker 2: eat anything?
Speaker 3: Tiger success plates, They found boles, random different items.
Speaker 2: Give us an amazing shark fact that we need to know.
Speaker 3: Species called Reo spur dog. It's only found in Australia.
Speaker 3: It lives more than colomitable at waves, and it has
Speaker 3: one of the longest pregnancies in the vertebrate kingdom, and
Speaker 3: that is nearly three years.
Speaker 2: You've just given me one thing. I never knew either,
Speaker 2: that baby sharks are called pops.
Speaker 1: What about that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, bose sharks called pops and some sharks believe it
Speaker 3: or not, put the majority of.
Speaker 1: Them at some sharks lay eggs, stop it. So I
Speaker 1: suppose you could call them things as well.
Speaker 2: How about that, doctor Leonardo Guida, the sharks scientists, the
Speaker 2: Australian Marine Conservation Society, and as I mentioned, fifty years
Speaker 2: to the day for the movie Jaws,