Speaker 1: What we last week we got the crime figures are
Speaker 1: not unexpected, a rise of fifteen percent, you're talking about Hawthorne,
Speaker 1: an increase of thirty percent, and police are arresting in
Speaker 1: record numbers. The predictable response is, of course, it's the
Speaker 1: cops fault, it's the court's fault, but it's never our fault.
Speaker 1: We've got a face up to reality that we're soft
Speaker 1: as butter and that Dan's expert is dead because all
Speaker 1: we do is blame, blame, blame. By the time police
Speaker 1: put the handcuffs on, you've lost. They're already offenders. So
Speaker 1: we need to look at it. In a Broadway talking
Speaker 1: to a teacher said, it goes into the school and
Speaker 1: four hundred to five hundred kids are on their phones.
Speaker 1: Another teacher was talking about a little social media group
Speaker 1: amongst the kids, and you know, there's a bit of bickery.
Speaker 1: Then a dad gets on and said I'm going to
Speaker 1: bash you to one of the kids, and the kid
Speaker 1: responds and says, my uncle's are biking. He's come to
Speaker 1: school to stab you. This is the sort of things
Speaker 1: we've got.
Speaker 2: That's the modern version of keeping up with the Joneses.
Speaker 1: So what we have done as adults is we've managed
Speaker 1: to produce a generation which is dumber, less, resilient, and sadder.
Speaker 1: I want to just take him back for a moment,
Speaker 1: be indulted. When I was at school, I was brought
Speaker 1: up in a housing commission house. My mother died when
Speaker 1: I was quite young. I went to Prestonese High which
Speaker 1: only went to year eleven because no one was expected
Speaker 1: to do year twelve. But I told you what we
Speaker 1: had aspirations. We had hope. We knew that if things
Speaker 1: went well and we tried, nothing could stop us. And
Speaker 1: out of that group. Of that little group became doctors, psychiatrists, nurses,
Speaker 1: real estate agents, owners of construction businesses, crime reporters. We
Speaker 1: didn't know anything about private schools, so we were never jealous,
Speaker 1: and we got free tertiary education. What is missing now
Speaker 1: is aspirations. A cop got hold of one of these
Speaker 1: young offenders, who happened to be of African descent, and said,
Speaker 1: you're actually a smart kid. You should be at school.
Speaker 1: And he said, yeah, my brother is a qualified civil engineer,
Speaker 1: but he's qualification is not recognized here and he's driving
Speaker 1: a taxi. So the only way I can get ahead
Speaker 1: is by robbing people socin Alan if she instead of
Speaker 1: tough laws, which we all want, go ahead with that,
Speaker 1: but have a summit and bring in and have everything
Speaker 1: on the table, because it's not a law and order issue,
Speaker 1: and it's not just about offending. It's about what is
Speaker 1: happening to this generation with smartphones being possibly the most
Speaker 1: dangerous thing horrible that we have ever invented.
Speaker 2: So I met Russell quotes, someone is saying, we're going
Speaker 2: to look back and say, how did we treat our
Speaker 2: children so badly?
Speaker 1: Professor Scott galileiros because child's colleges say you are allowing
Speaker 1: the enemy into your house. You've got CCTV, you've got gates,
Speaker 1: but the enemy is in the bedroom with your kids
Speaker 1: and these smart devices.
Speaker 2: Do people know that there is technology whereby you can
Speaker 2: regulate your child's phone and turn just program them to
Speaker 2: to turn off at certain times. I'll say at eight
Speaker 2: o'clock at night and turn back on at eight o'clock
Speaker 2: in the morning. That it's very simple technology. Well don't
Speaker 2: you think that should be part of the seminar? And
Speaker 2: the person I'd be bringing out is Katherine McCluskey, an
Speaker 2: absolute jet out of Scotland who is a youth worker
Speaker 2: and a forensic expert, and she's been working in this
Speaker 2: space neck. This is Scotland, this is Glasgow, where there
Speaker 2: have been generations of gangs, where the Glasgow smile is
Speaker 2: a slash across your face. And one of the things
Speaker 2: they do, for example, is when a kids stabbed, when
Speaker 2: they get to hospital, there is a bloke who won't
Speaker 2: report it to the police, but he's an ex gang
Speaker 2: member and he'll go and talk and say, here's my scars,
Speaker 2: this is what happened, this is crap, here's my card.
Speaker 2: We've got a twenty four hour helpline. We'll get you
Speaker 2: a job, we'll teach you even how to eat properly.
Speaker 2: And you know what.
Speaker 1: There the prisoners under twenty five has dropped seventy five
Speaker 1: percent since twenty ten.
Speaker 2: We need to speak with her. You and me and
Speaker 2: Scorch have been talking in the break. Her name is
Speaker 2: Katherine McCluskey. She is Scottish. She needs to come here
Speaker 2: to address a seminar. We're thinking thirty k had probably
Speaker 2: cover business, class affairs, accommodation, bibbs and bobs.
Speaker 1: We just need to adapt her method.
Speaker 2: It has worked right We need to get this Scottish
Speaker 2: woman out here. Russell