Speaker 1: And album covers. Are they sexy or just playing sexist?
Speaker 2: But first, yes, First, we have an email Elliot Exchange
Speaker 2: to L two T's at nine dot CONU and our
Speaker 2: emailer this week is Marianne.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 2: Marianne says, I know this sends like a bit of
Speaker 2: a morbid topic, but if something happened to one of you,
Speaker 2: would you know what the other would want for their funeral?
Speaker 2: Have you thought about what you would like for your
Speaker 2: own funeral? Elise?
Speaker 1: Thanks Maryanne. You know, everyone pretends they haven't thought about
Speaker 1: their funeral, but everyone has thought about their own funeral
Speaker 1: and what they would like. It's a bit moribund. It
Speaker 1: is a note, but it's very telling if you know
Speaker 1: what your partner would like. So I think you would
Speaker 1: like everyone to wear a Hawaiian shirt and celebration of
Speaker 1: your big life. They're no black suits, no, so lots
Speaker 1: of color, lots of hibiscuses and music that's very central
Speaker 1: to you.
Speaker 2: There's be lots of music like my father, I'd have
Speaker 2: you know that the coffin as veils. We have the
Speaker 2: Carton Football Club song playing, do you know? And dad died?
Speaker 2: I spoke to the funeral people. I think it was
Speaker 2: Tobin Brothers. They said seventy percent of the funerals they organize,
Speaker 2: someone wants an AFL Club song being played.
Speaker 1: That is extraordinary. Would just note to my future self,
Speaker 1: assuming that you may pass before me, or which I will.
Speaker 1: Why do you say that?
Speaker 2: Well, because you're younger than me, and you know I'm
Speaker 2: not in the best of nick anymore, and all the
Speaker 2: rest of it.
Speaker 1: And are we thinking ashes?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm thinking ashes, you know, maybe put in some
Speaker 2: sort of firework rocket type thing and shot out somewhere,
Speaker 2: just a cliff, let's take you. Or But when I
Speaker 2: think about it, why not?
Speaker 1: And look, I know we're joking about it, but the
Speaker 1: reason being, I've had a pretty challenging week with not
Speaker 1: one but three octogenarians in my life, planning all this
Speaker 1: stuff for age, care for them and for funerals, and
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't think ahead, and suddenly you're
Speaker 1: left with making these decisions. Would they want a funeral,
Speaker 1: would they want a party? Do they want to be buried?
Speaker 1: Do they want to be cremated? Who speaks? You know?
Speaker 1: And that it becomes this terrible I guess, cause a
Speaker 1: friction within families.
Speaker 2: See, I actually think I will I will put the
Speaker 2: money aside first, like a special account, and say, or
Speaker 2: you can actually buy insurance, but just so you're not,
Speaker 2: you know, financially put out thinking it's going to cost
Speaker 2: a lot of money too.
Speaker 1: Do we go there want an oak box?
Speaker 2: Or do we go just the pine or the card?
Speaker 2: There's that. Even though I'm an atheist, I've started thinking
Speaker 2: about the afterlife, and you know that I'll be sort
Speaker 2: of hovering above as a spirit watching what's going on.
Speaker 2: Who's paying attention, who.
Speaker 1: Is not deeply religious? From me?
Speaker 2: I'd like there to be not enough seats for everyone,
Speaker 2: because lots of people would turn up and.
Speaker 1: So they'd be standing. You really have thought about it?
Speaker 1: And what about the song?
Speaker 2: Well, I think it'll be moving on up by primals
Speaker 2: because it's happy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The other problem that it's there's several different versions. You've
Speaker 2: got to pick. The eily version came out, but.
Speaker 1: I mean is seriously jesting aside. I think you should
Speaker 1: put your funereal planes, yes down, have a little fun
Speaker 1: for it. So yeah, your kids or your friends aren't left.
Speaker 2: Going or you or me, and if you have someone
Speaker 2: escorting you and your moments of grief already moved in
Speaker 2: very quickly.
Speaker 1: You said this on radio. That's twice this week. If
Speaker 1: you had passed away and I tune up with a
Speaker 1: new suit.
Speaker 2: To be wearing a blazer and a cravat might work
Speaker 2: on a cruise ship in his spirits. Who knows you
Speaker 2: really thought about it? What would you like? Ela? I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking something sound of music, themes for you.
Speaker 1: Everyone wearing out is made out of curtains, is that right?
Speaker 2: Something like that?
Speaker 1: And a spunky Captain von Trapp.
Speaker 2: Blowing the whistle. Everybody lines up.
Speaker 1: That would be rate, wouldn't it? So, no priest, but
Speaker 1: Captain von Trapp, that would be great.
Speaker 2: How many speakers? Now, I've been to a few funerals
Speaker 2: and wedding somewhere where everybody gets a turn, which I
Speaker 2: think less is.
Speaker 1: More more just one ripper speech.
Speaker 2: So let's say I'm already dead.
Speaker 1: No, you're there, you're giving my speech. Let meant to countenance.
Speaker 2: Unless you say not. Do we have a reserve speaker? God?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: You know you know her daughter, she given a nice
Speaker 2: speech about it.
Speaker 1: She would be beautiful and touching and lovely. I think
Speaker 1: it should be a celebration of a life, not a
Speaker 1: sort of sad event. And definitely ashes in the ocean
Speaker 1: and on the mountains.
Speaker 2: He's just on the game. Back to the football theme.
Speaker 2: I know we talk about football a lot, but inter
Speaker 2: state and overseas listeners, it's sort of very central to
Speaker 2: life in Melbourne. But like my father had his ashes
Speaker 2: scattered in Carlton's traditional home ground, Princess Park, and again
Speaker 2: later found out that there's about two tons of ash
Speaker 2: of dead people.
Speaker 1: That's so full.
Speaker 2: Slightly mccunny, you said, it's actually quite good fertilizers.
Speaker 1: So that's not a problem. Can you just scatter ashes
Speaker 1: wherever you want? Like, could you just go in front
Speaker 1: of a notre arme and go, yeah, you know, mum
Speaker 1: loved Paris ashes there.
Speaker 2: Don't you lowed to? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I wonder if there's all because you think about it.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're see in all those terrible comedy movies
Speaker 1: where they throw ashes out into the ocean, the wind
Speaker 1: blows it back in face.
Speaker 2: There's that funny joke about you know, someone having their
Speaker 2: ashes or the relative's ashes on the mantle pace and
Speaker 2: a smoker comes along and keeps hashing into they look
Speaker 2: at them. Go gee, you put on a bit of
Speaker 2: weight haven't you.
Speaker 1: So? I think we're both on the same page. We've
Speaker 1: been a little organized, keeping it a celebration. You want,
Speaker 1: primal scream, I would like turned to Stone by Elo
Speaker 1: what Tom, Because like you, I'm a child of the seventies.
Speaker 1: I really loved Vinyl and in particular ALB covers and
Speaker 1: they really made or broke respective record. Now this week
Speaker 1: a bit of a shock has come out. There is
Speaker 1: a young sort of pop starlet poplet called Sabrina Carpenter.
Speaker 1: Do you know about Sabrina?
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's the granddaughter of Karen Carpenter, aren't she? I
Speaker 2: made that up?
Speaker 1: That's quite clever. She has done an album called Man's
Speaker 1: Best Friend Apostrophe in the right spot, So there's a
Speaker 1: good start. And I would say it's possibly unless it's
Speaker 1: being ironic, which I can't see. A very sexist, degrading
Speaker 1: to women, retrograde, sad, pathetic album cover where you have
Speaker 1: her kind of on all fours, sort of reaching out
Speaker 1: to a man's leg and he's got a clump of
Speaker 1: her blonde hair and he's pulling it up. It's a
Speaker 1: very distressing album cover. As a mom of a fifteen
Speaker 1: year old girl, I look at this and think I
Speaker 1: don't want this?
Speaker 2: What's wrong with being sexy?
Speaker 1: Which brings this tea that wonderful, wonderful scene in one
Speaker 1: of our favorite movies, Spinal Tap, where they do bring
Speaker 1: out an album cover and Frandrisher is their publicist. She goes,
Speaker 1: you cannot have this cover, and they said why, and
Speaker 1: she goes, you have a woman on all falls with
Speaker 1: a dog color around her neck, and there's a guy
Speaker 1: holding out a glove on.
Speaker 3: All fours with a dog color around her neck and
Speaker 3: a leash and a man's arm extended out up to here,
Speaker 3: holding on to the leash and pushing a black glove
Speaker 3: in her face to sniff it. You don't find that offensive,
Speaker 3: you don't find that sexist?
Speaker 1: And he goes, what's wrong? We're sexy?
Speaker 2: What's wrong with being sexy?
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no sex with seftist being sexy? What's
Speaker 1: wrong with being sexy? So this is I don't care
Speaker 1: if there's some deep message in it. At face value,
Speaker 1: it is sexist. It's not sexy. So got me thinking
Speaker 1: tom about good and bad album covers, And I've brought
Speaker 1: a little collection in Okay, particularly good ones while I
Speaker 1: prepare them are there any that stand out.
Speaker 2: I've got three. So in nineteen seventy nine, my then
Speaker 2: best friend gave me Kisses album Dynasty, or as the
Speaker 2: Americans would say, Dynasty, and it has the four made
Speaker 2: up faces of the members of Kiss, you know, Peter Chris,
Speaker 2: Teine Simmons, Paul Stanley, and Ace Freely. And I unwrapped
Speaker 2: it on Christmas Day and my dad looked at it.
Speaker 2: What's that? It's a devil worship? You want me to
Speaker 2: play it? A year later, I said, cad, I go
Speaker 2: to the Kiss concert. You remember the album covered No Way.
Speaker 1: That's good Now? Kiss did unmasked?
Speaker 2: Yes, no, no, that ruined them?
Speaker 1: No makeup back on boys.
Speaker 2: Here's another one. Nineteen seventy five, one of the great
Speaker 2: singles from a one hit wonder band Boston came out
Speaker 2: and they're self tied, some people might say, to show off.
Speaker 2: The eponymous album has been like Elo has a sort
Speaker 2: of you know, a UFO was very popular in the
Speaker 2: mid seventies with Boston, and of course the main song
Speaker 2: was more than a Feeling and I like, I had
Speaker 2: that album. In fact, I still have it. And you
Speaker 2: mentioned spinal Tap before. And in the early nineties they
Speaker 2: released a second album and it was cooled. It had
Speaker 2: them look like heavy metal musicians with very muscular torsos
Speaker 2: and everything. Yeah, yeah, it might not have been their
Speaker 2: actual bodies. And the album was called break Like the
Speaker 2: Wind a lot.
Speaker 1: Did they actually think that true?
Speaker 2: I think they thought it through.
Speaker 1: And you know I also play on my Friend the
Speaker 1: Wind from your friend.
Speaker 2: Well, that's right, Demis Rusos, and I bought Break Like
Speaker 2: the Wind because I thought it was so funny being
Speaker 2: you know, an undergraduate university students. And I still have
Speaker 2: it on CD, though not on it. And that's the
Speaker 2: thing about album covers is that since the demise of
Speaker 2: the now rebirth of the p record we you know,
Speaker 2: to Cee that was never quite because sets were terrible.
Speaker 2: As covers, well, see these often every thing in them
Speaker 2: you can unfold.
Speaker 1: With the lyrics you're always singing wrong.
Speaker 2: But a twelve inch album you've actually got enough real
Speaker 2: estate there, particularly you know, one that folds in half
Speaker 2: to see lyrics and photos and art and that sort
Speaker 2: of thing, and we sort of have lost that a
Speaker 2: bit these days.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to bring out probably one of your favorites,
Speaker 1: and I love this and look the key to or
Speaker 1: good album cover is choice the band. I want to
Speaker 1: see the band in their band glory. So I think
Speaker 1: this is particularly good, which is Saturday Night Fever, because
Speaker 1: you've got your little mate down the bottom down.
Speaker 2: John Travalta or in the film of course he's called
Speaker 2: Tony Manera Tony Minera.
Speaker 1: And then you've got the triumvirate of the Beg's brothers
Speaker 1: and all their gloriousness.
Speaker 2: Well really should be the Brothers GiB because that's what
Speaker 2: BG stood for, Brothers GiB like the Brother's Grim right,
Speaker 2: And a lot of people don't know though they grew
Speaker 2: up in Queensland and Australia.
Speaker 1: They're Aussies, which is amazing. Now these are seminal albums, right,
Speaker 1: because dows the best of.
Speaker 2: Jim Jim Morrison before he got fat. Did he get
Speaker 2: Oh yes, yes, Elvia's fat, not that fata. You know
Speaker 2: that fashion they had in the late sixties early seventies,
Speaker 2: three very tight jeans with a hint of flare down
Speaker 2: the ball froom and sort of a big belt with
Speaker 2: a sort of big belt buckle. And he couldn't wear
Speaker 2: that by about nineteen seventy two because he just got
Speaker 2: too fat.
Speaker 1: So another one Dolly. We all love her. She's having
Speaker 1: a renaissance party. Yeah, look at that. God, she's a babe.
Speaker 2: You know, she's been married to the same guy for
Speaker 2: like sixty years or something.
Speaker 1: She's actually quite wholesome despite her experience, and she's got
Speaker 1: a really kind of May West kind of witch. But
Speaker 1: see there's Dolly in all her den and beauty. Such
Speaker 1: a babe.
Speaker 2: And I must say I often gone by old records,
Speaker 2: not because I necessarily want to listen to the music,
Speaker 2: just because I'm like the album covers.
Speaker 1: But they've got to reflect. So there she is looking Denim,
Speaker 1: She's just looking like a gorgeous girl. Now I love this.
Speaker 1: The Smiths the world won't listen. Look at that album coming.
Speaker 2: It's fair early nineteen eighties and young men, you know.
Speaker 1: Looking disenfranchised, unemployed, quite dark.
Speaker 2: Go and tend to write and throw rocks at the police.
Speaker 1: It's got that sort of simmering tension, hasn't it.
Speaker 2: Well, Margaret Thatcher was the Prime minister back then.
Speaker 1: It's got that youth disquiet.
Speaker 2: And then she would have sent them all off to
Speaker 2: the Falklands War and that would have sorted them out.
Speaker 1: That's a lot to take from one.
Speaker 2: Well, this is the thing about album covers. You can
Speaker 2: read a lot into them.
Speaker 1: Yea with the Dolly Parton school of dress ups. We
Speaker 1: also have here Bob Dylan Desire. He looks great there
Speaker 1: wearing some sort of animal around his neck in cowboy hats.
Speaker 2: Well, he's gone electric at that stage. I think he's
Speaker 2: going through this sort of folk slash psychedelic phase. And
Speaker 2: he's got a cravat and he's wearing fur and a hat,
Speaker 2: and you know there's a lot going on.
Speaker 1: It's all possibly too much. And there's a bit of
Speaker 1: wind there, breeze, and this is one a homegrown talent.
Speaker 1: Last but not least, this is a bit wrong. I
Speaker 1: don't know what happened here. But Johnny Farnham, what is that?
Speaker 2: I like the This is Johnny Farnham sing a long
Speaker 2: album and he's leaning against a very famous Australian car.
Speaker 2: I think that's an h ka an ht hobbum.
Speaker 1: Manaro, such a great car in red.
Speaker 2: And Johnny's got the roll neck top on and the
Speaker 2: slightly flat jeans which.
Speaker 1: Is in a baby blue would you say eggshell blue?
Speaker 1: Baby blue?
Speaker 2: Sky blue, sky blue? And he was still young and
Speaker 2: innocent then so he was called Johnny and then about
Speaker 2: fifteen years later in the eighties he just became John
Speaker 2: Farner when he grew up, or Farnsie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's sort of leaning against the car
Speaker 1: in a nonchalant way. What's with that psychedelic fonds though?
Speaker 1: Like what happened there?
Speaker 2: Well, this is the thing now. If you listen as
Speaker 2: I do to a lot of John Farnham's songs, there
Speaker 2: was one that came out in nineteen sixty nine or
Speaker 2: seventy called one and you can hear a very psychedelic trend.
Speaker 2: I think it might have been the only psychedelic song
Speaker 2: he did, but there was no way of getting away
Speaker 2: from it at Australia or anywhere in the world at
Speaker 2: that time.
Speaker 1: So the key to all these album cover is just
Speaker 1: a small selection from a very very extensive collection. The
Speaker 1: band who it's about, what they represent, nice and easy.
Speaker 2: The message and the mess and perhaps a certain as
Speaker 2: Austin Powers once said, I don't know what about it.
Speaker 2: I think it translates as you as a kla that.
Speaker 1: You have it. So shame on you, Sabrina. We don't
Speaker 1: like your album cover, I do.
Speaker 2: So says you know, I'm an officionado of skin carey
Speaker 2: rigorous skin care regime. It takes me hours every day
Speaker 2: to look the way I do. And apparently, after analyzing
Speaker 2: beauty routines from no few of them one hundred TikTok
Speaker 2: videos by content creators, what is that? Ages seven through
Speaker 2: to eighteen, researchers have found an average of eleven potentially
Speaker 2: irritating active ingredients in skin care regimes. Now. To be
Speaker 2: quite honest, I've always thought, you know, soap and water
Speaker 2: is all you really need for healthy, glowing skin. But
Speaker 2: is it more complicated than that?
Speaker 1: Slightly? Funnily enough, I caught up with a very young
Speaker 1: fella when I was doing some car stuff and he said, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just use palm leive. I said, what is pali
Speaker 1: pal malieve? So it was sort of ironic because it
Speaker 1: was so simple, but even the way he pronounced it, So, Tom,
Speaker 1: what's happened? Skincare has got incredibly complex for young girls
Speaker 1: and they don't need that much. So when our fifteen
Speaker 1: year olds in to me, Mummy, I would like a serum,
Speaker 1: I said, honey, I didn't use serums till my late forties.
Speaker 2: Is a serum?
Speaker 4: To me?
Speaker 2: It sounds like it's a cure for a plate.
Speaker 1: It's it's sort of like in a skincare regime, you
Speaker 1: could have like a pre cleanse, a cleanse, a post cleanse,
Speaker 1: a tona, a serum, or a moisturizer. A tona is
Speaker 1: sort of often has alcohol in it and just burns
Speaker 1: your face off.
Speaker 2: You don't drink it, you just pour it on your face,
Speaker 2: so it's like it's like deathol or something like that.
Speaker 1: Ringent and it gets rid of all the I know,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, let me finish the massive list.
Speaker 1: Then a serum which is kind of like a gloopy, thicker,
Speaker 1: honey textured sort of product you put on your face,
Speaker 1: then a moisturizer, and then an SBF and then I cream. Right,
Speaker 1: So now the problem is, that's all right if you're sixty,
Speaker 1: right when you're fifteen, you.
Speaker 2: Don't need it.
Speaker 1: You don't need it.
Speaker 2: What do you need to do is stay out of
Speaker 2: the sun.
Speaker 1: Correct. That is the best skin care message you can
Speaker 1: give any team, which is SBF, stay out of the sun.
Speaker 2: I remember on school this week, which I like to
Speaker 2: think I invented in nineteen eighty five. Anyway, we went
Speaker 2: up to the gold coast as you do, and you
Speaker 2: could walk onto one of the all the main beach there,
Speaker 2: I can't remember where it was, and a guy with
Speaker 2: it like a spray gun, like a powered spray gun.
Speaker 2: You'd stand there just in your speedos and he'd walk
Speaker 2: around you and spray every interview in oil and then
Speaker 2: you sort of lie on the beach and get cooked
Speaker 2: by the sun.
Speaker 1: Think about that. But so you didn't suffer from zits
Speaker 1: or acne? Did you? I really did, And it really
Speaker 1: scars you literally and figuratively as a young person. So look,
Speaker 1: if perhaps a young kid has routine has problem skin,
Speaker 1: I'm all for looking at all different solutions. There's great
Speaker 1: lasers and things young kids can have for that. But
Speaker 1: you don't know how debilitating it is.
Speaker 2: I've seen another. But coating your face in all this
Speaker 2: gunk is not going to help your skin.
Speaker 1: It's going to make it worse.
Speaker 2: It's going to clog it up. But I mean imaged
Speaker 2: if I ran, I don't know that. What's that coming
Speaker 2: Mecca that sells cosmic? I mean, I think this sort
Speaker 2: of stuff is fantastic. Teenage girls say going on eighteen
Speaker 2: different bottles of sea is just to get ready to
Speaker 2: go to school each day.
Speaker 1: And then it becomes kind of a like like I
Speaker 1: guess people might collect cars or handbags. Then for girls,
Speaker 1: it's like, look at my shelf.
Speaker 2: With all the products I use. Now I'm speaking that
Speaker 2: I went into an eighteen year olds rumored college into
Speaker 2: his room, and what he had was a rack of
Speaker 2: after after shaving spray on deodorant, you know, the.
Speaker 1: Whole old factory things.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Really, Grip team boys. I welcome it because in our day.
Speaker 2: It was just bo o bo no, no, no, there
Speaker 2: was Roscar, No, there was there was the terms of
Speaker 2: the after show we had. There was old Spice thirty three,
Speaker 2: thirty three and my favorite blue Stratos. I love that
Speaker 2: and the ad you'd be in a hang glider, a
Speaker 2: white hand glider and a blue sky and then somehow
Speaker 2: turned into an eagle and then you land and you anyway.
Speaker 1: But a lot of sort of metamorphoses in after shave ads.
Speaker 1: Adam Driver from Star.
Speaker 2: Wars, he's Darth Vader's dad, ending.
Speaker 1: But anyway, he's in a burbary commercial for Assent, and
Speaker 1: I think he morphs into a horse. He's like riding
Speaker 1: a horse. And then I mean, check this out it's not.
Speaker 4: Enough to merely train with horses. I almost joined it
Speaker 4: to the jedi oship, where the force will surround us.
Speaker 4: How to treat us bind us to become a hero,
Speaker 4: I must first become a horse, Jedi horse from Burbery.
Speaker 1: Anyway, we digress back to teen girls. It has become
Speaker 1: awfully complicated, overly expensive, and where have they got to
Speaker 1: go for the rest of their life? Well, there you go, Tom,
Speaker 1: I've got all your funeral like plans written down. I
Speaker 1: hope you've got mine as well.
Speaker 2: Indeed, I'm just gonna say it with my choice of song,
Speaker 2: because I'm getting more religious as I get older, it
Speaker 2: needs to be called. You know, you're cramming for the
Speaker 2: finals when you suddenly think, oh, what have God Israel?
Speaker 2: Maybe I should believing in him. The song I've chosen
Speaker 2: Moving on Up is because I'll be going up to Heaven,
Speaker 2: I hope.
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