WEBVTT - Elise is NOT happy about this album cover

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<v Speaker 1>And album covers. Are they sexy or just playing sexist?

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<v Speaker 2>But first, yes, First, we have an email Elliot Exchange

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<v Speaker 2>to L two T's at nine dot CONU and our

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<v Speaker 2>emailer this week is Marianne.

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<v Speaker 1>So.

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<v Speaker 2>Marianne says, I know this sends like a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a morbid topic, but if something happened to one of you,

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<v Speaker 2>would you know what the other would want for their funeral?

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<v Speaker 2>Have you thought about what you would like for your

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<v Speaker 2>own funeral? Elise?

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Maryanne. You know, everyone pretends they haven't thought about

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<v Speaker 1>their funeral, but everyone has thought about their own funeral

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<v Speaker 1>and what they would like. It's a bit moribund. It

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<v Speaker 1>is a note, but it's very telling if you know

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<v Speaker 1>what your partner would like. So I think you would

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<v Speaker 1>like everyone to wear a Hawaiian shirt and celebration of

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<v Speaker 1>your big life. They're no black suits, no, so lots

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<v Speaker 1>of color, lots of hibiscuses and music that's very central

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<v Speaker 1>to you.

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<v Speaker 2>There's be lots of music like my father, I'd have

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<v Speaker 2>you know that the coffin as veils. We have the

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<v Speaker 2>Carton Football Club song playing, do you know? And dad died?

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<v Speaker 2>I spoke to the funeral people. I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>Tobin Brothers. They said seventy percent of the funerals they organize,

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<v Speaker 2>someone wants an AFL Club song being played.

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<v Speaker 1>That is extraordinary. Would just note to my future self,

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<v Speaker 1>assuming that you may pass before me, or which I will.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you say that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, because you're younger than me, and you know I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not in the best of nick anymore, and all the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And are we thinking ashes?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm thinking ashes, you know, maybe put in some

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<v Speaker 2>sort of firework rocket type thing and shot out somewhere,

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<v Speaker 2>just a cliff, let's take you. Or But when I

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<v Speaker 2>think about it, why not?

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<v Speaker 1>And look, I know we're joking about it, but the

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<v Speaker 1>reason being, I've had a pretty challenging week with not

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<v Speaker 1>one but three octogenarians in my life, planning all this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff for age, care for them and for funerals, and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people don't think ahead, and suddenly you're

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<v Speaker 1>left with making these decisions. Would they want a funeral,

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<v Speaker 1>would they want a party? Do they want to be buried?

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<v Speaker 1>Do they want to be cremated? Who speaks? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>And that it becomes this terrible I guess, cause a

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<v Speaker 1>friction within families.

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<v Speaker 2>See, I actually think I will I will put the

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<v Speaker 2>money aside first, like a special account, and say, or

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<v Speaker 2>you can actually buy insurance, but just so you're not,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, financially put out thinking it's going to cost

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of money too.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we go there want an oak box?

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<v Speaker 2>Or do we go just the pine or the card?

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<v Speaker 2>There's that. Even though I'm an atheist, I've started thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about the afterlife, and you know that I'll be sort

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<v Speaker 2>of hovering above as a spirit watching what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's paying attention, who.

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<v Speaker 1>Is not deeply religious? From me?

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like there to be not enough seats for everyone,

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<v Speaker 2>because lots of people would turn up and.

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<v Speaker 1>So they'd be standing. You really have thought about it?

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<v Speaker 1>And what about the song?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think it'll be moving on up by primals

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<v Speaker 2>because it's happy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The other problem that it's there's several different versions. You've

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<v Speaker 2>got to pick. The eily version came out, but.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean is seriously jesting aside. I think you should

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<v Speaker 1>put your funereal planes, yes down, have a little fun

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<v Speaker 1>for it. So yeah, your kids or your friends aren't left.

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<v Speaker 2>Going or you or me, and if you have someone

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<v Speaker 2>escorting you and your moments of grief already moved in

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<v Speaker 2>very quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>You said this on radio. That's twice this week. If

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<v Speaker 1>you had passed away and I tune up with a

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<v Speaker 1>new suit.

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<v Speaker 2>To be wearing a blazer and a cravat might work

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<v Speaker 2>on a cruise ship in his spirits. Who knows you

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<v Speaker 2>really thought about it? What would you like? Ela? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking something sound of music, themes for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone wearing out is made out of curtains, is that right?

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<v Speaker 2>Something like that?

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<v Speaker 1>And a spunky Captain von Trapp.

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<v Speaker 2>Blowing the whistle. Everybody lines up.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be rate, wouldn't it? So, no priest, but

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<v Speaker 1>Captain von Trapp, that would be great.

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<v Speaker 2>How many speakers? Now, I've been to a few funerals

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<v Speaker 2>and wedding somewhere where everybody gets a turn, which I

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<v Speaker 2>think less is.

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<v Speaker 1>More more just one ripper speech.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's say I'm already dead.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you're there, you're giving my speech. Let meant to countenance.

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<v Speaker 2>Unless you say not. Do we have a reserve speaker? God?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>You know you know her daughter, she given a nice

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<v Speaker 2>speech about it.

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<v Speaker 1>She would be beautiful and touching and lovely. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it should be a celebration of a life, not a

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<v Speaker 1>sort of sad event. And definitely ashes in the ocean

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<v Speaker 1>and on the mountains.

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<v Speaker 2>He's just on the game. Back to the football theme.

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<v Speaker 2>I know we talk about football a lot, but inter

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<v Speaker 2>state and overseas listeners, it's sort of very central to

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<v Speaker 2>life in Melbourne. But like my father had his ashes

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<v Speaker 2>scattered in Carlton's traditional home ground, Princess Park, and again

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<v Speaker 2>later found out that there's about two tons of ash

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<v Speaker 2>of dead people.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so full.

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<v Speaker 2>Slightly mccunny, you said, it's actually quite good fertilizers.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's not a problem. Can you just scatter ashes

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<v Speaker 1>wherever you want? Like, could you just go in front

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<v Speaker 1>of a notre arme and go, yeah, you know, mum

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<v Speaker 1>loved Paris ashes there.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't you lowed to? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if there's all because you think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're see in all those terrible comedy movies

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<v Speaker 1>where they throw ashes out into the ocean, the wind

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<v Speaker 1>blows it back in face.

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<v Speaker 2>There's that funny joke about you know, someone having their

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<v Speaker 2>ashes or the relative's ashes on the mantle pace and

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<v Speaker 2>a smoker comes along and keeps hashing into they look

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<v Speaker 2>at them. Go gee, you put on a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>weight haven't you.

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<v Speaker 1>So? I think we're both on the same page. We've

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<v Speaker 1>been a little organized, keeping it a celebration. You want,

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<v Speaker 1>primal scream, I would like turned to Stone by Elo

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<v Speaker 1>what Tom, Because like you, I'm a child of the seventies.

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<v Speaker 1>I really loved Vinyl and in particular ALB covers and

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<v Speaker 1>they really made or broke respective record. Now this week

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a shock has come out. There is

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<v Speaker 1>a young sort of pop starlet poplet called Sabrina Carpenter.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know about Sabrina?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's the granddaughter of Karen Carpenter, aren't she? I

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<v Speaker 2>made that up?

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<v Speaker 1>That's quite clever. She has done an album called Man's

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<v Speaker 1>Best Friend Apostrophe in the right spot, So there's a

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<v Speaker 1>good start. And I would say it's possibly unless it's

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<v Speaker 1>being ironic, which I can't see. A very sexist, degrading

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<v Speaker 1>to women, retrograde, sad, pathetic album cover where you have

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<v Speaker 1>her kind of on all fours, sort of reaching out

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<v Speaker 1>to a man's leg and he's got a clump of

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<v Speaker 1>her blonde hair and he's pulling it up. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>very distressing album cover. As a mom of a fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>year old girl, I look at this and think I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want this?

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<v Speaker 2>What's wrong with being sexy?

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<v Speaker 1>Which brings this tea that wonderful, wonderful scene in one

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<v Speaker 1>of our favorite movies, Spinal Tap, where they do bring

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<v Speaker 1>out an album cover and Frandrisher is their publicist. She goes,

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<v Speaker 1>you cannot have this cover, and they said why, and

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<v Speaker 1>she goes, you have a woman on all falls with

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<v Speaker 1>a dog color around her neck, and there's a guy

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<v Speaker 1>holding out a glove on.

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<v Speaker 3>All fours with a dog color around her neck and

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<v Speaker 3>a leash and a man's arm extended out up to here,

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<v Speaker 3>holding on to the leash and pushing a black glove

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<v Speaker 3>in her face to sniff it. You don't find that offensive,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't find that sexist?

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<v Speaker 1>And he goes, what's wrong? We're sexy?

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<v Speaker 2>What's wrong with being sexy?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's no sex with seftist being sexy? What's

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<v Speaker 1>wrong with being sexy? So this is I don't care

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<v Speaker 1>if there's some deep message in it. At face value,

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<v Speaker 1>it is sexist. It's not sexy. So got me thinking

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<v Speaker 1>tom about good and bad album covers, And I've brought

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<v Speaker 1>a little collection in Okay, particularly good ones while I

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<v Speaker 1>prepare them are there any that stand out.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got three. So in nineteen seventy nine, my then

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<v Speaker 2>best friend gave me Kisses album Dynasty, or as the

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<v Speaker 2>Americans would say, Dynasty, and it has the four made

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<v Speaker 2>up faces of the members of Kiss, you know, Peter Chris,

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<v Speaker 2>Teine Simmons, Paul Stanley, and Ace Freely. And I unwrapped

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<v Speaker 2>it on Christmas Day and my dad looked at it.

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<v Speaker 2>What's that? It's a devil worship? You want me to

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<v Speaker 2>play it? A year later, I said, cad, I go

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<v Speaker 2>to the Kiss concert. You remember the album covered No Way.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good Now? Kiss did unmasked?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, no, no, that ruined them?

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<v Speaker 1>No makeup back on boys.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's another one. Nineteen seventy five, one of the great

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<v Speaker 2>singles from a one hit wonder band Boston came out

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<v Speaker 2>and they're self tied, some people might say, to show off.

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<v Speaker 2>The eponymous album has been like Elo has a sort

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, a UFO was very popular in the

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<v Speaker 2>mid seventies with Boston, and of course the main song

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<v Speaker 2>was more than a Feeling and I like, I had

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<v Speaker 2>that album. In fact, I still have it. And you

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned spinal Tap before. And in the early nineties they

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<v Speaker 2>released a second album and it was cooled. It had

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<v Speaker 2>them look like heavy metal musicians with very muscular torsos

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<v Speaker 2>and everything. Yeah, yeah, it might not have been their

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<v Speaker 2>actual bodies. And the album was called break Like the

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<v Speaker 2>Wind a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Did they actually think that true?

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<v Speaker 2>I think they thought it through.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know I also play on my Friend the

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<v Speaker 1>Wind from your friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's right, Demis Rusos, and I bought Break Like

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<v Speaker 2>the Wind because I thought it was so funny being

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<v Speaker 2>you know, an undergraduate university students. And I still have

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<v Speaker 2>it on CD, though not on it. And that's the

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<v Speaker 2>thing about album covers is that since the demise of

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<v Speaker 2>the now rebirth of the p record we you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to Cee that was never quite because sets were terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>As covers, well, see these often every thing in them

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<v Speaker 2>you can unfold.

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<v Speaker 1>With the lyrics you're always singing wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>But a twelve inch album you've actually got enough real

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<v Speaker 2>estate there, particularly you know, one that folds in half

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<v Speaker 2>to see lyrics and photos and art and that sort

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<v Speaker 2>of thing, and we sort of have lost that a

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<v Speaker 2>bit these days.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm going to bring out probably one of your favorites,

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<v Speaker 1>and I love this and look the key to or

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<v Speaker 1>good album cover is choice the band. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>see the band in their band glory. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is particularly good, which is Saturday Night Fever, because

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<v Speaker 1>you've got your little mate down the bottom down.

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<v Speaker 2>John Travalta or in the film of course he's called

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<v Speaker 2>Tony Manera Tony Minera.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you've got the triumvirate of the Beg's brothers

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<v Speaker 1>and all their gloriousness.

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<v Speaker 2>Well really should be the Brothers GiB because that's what

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<v Speaker 2>BG stood for, Brothers GiB like the Brother's Grim right,

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<v Speaker 2>And a lot of people don't know though they grew

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<v Speaker 2>up in Queensland and Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>They're Aussies, which is amazing. Now these are seminal albums, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because dows the best of.

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<v Speaker 2>Jim Jim Morrison before he got fat. Did he get

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, yes, Elvia's fat, not that fata. You know

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<v Speaker 2>that fashion they had in the late sixties early seventies,

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<v Speaker 2>three very tight jeans with a hint of flare down

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<v Speaker 2>the ball froom and sort of a big belt with

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<v Speaker 2>a sort of big belt buckle. And he couldn't wear

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<v Speaker 2>that by about nineteen seventy two because he just got

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<v Speaker 2>too fat.

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<v Speaker 1>So another one Dolly. We all love her. She's having

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<v Speaker 1>a renaissance party. Yeah, look at that. God, she's a babe.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, she's been married to the same guy for

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<v Speaker 2>like sixty years or something.

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<v Speaker 1>She's actually quite wholesome despite her experience, and she's got

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<v Speaker 1>a really kind of May West kind of witch. But

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<v Speaker 1>see there's Dolly in all her den and beauty. Such

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<v Speaker 1>a babe.

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<v Speaker 2>And I must say I often gone by old records,

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<v Speaker 2>not because I necessarily want to listen to the music,

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<v Speaker 2>just because I'm like the album covers.

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<v Speaker 1>But they've got to reflect. So there she is looking Denim,

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<v Speaker 1>She's just looking like a gorgeous girl. Now I love this.

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<v Speaker 1>The Smiths the world won't listen. Look at that album coming.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fair early nineteen eighties and young men, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Looking disenfranchised, unemployed, quite dark.

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<v Speaker 2>Go and tend to write and throw rocks at the police.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got that sort of simmering tension, hasn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Margaret Thatcher was the Prime minister back then.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got that youth disquiet.

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<v Speaker 2>And then she would have sent them all off to

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<v Speaker 2>the Falklands War and that would have sorted them out.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a lot to take from one.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, this is the thing about album covers. You can

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<v Speaker 2>read a lot into them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yea with the Dolly Parton school of dress ups. We

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<v Speaker 1>also have here Bob Dylan Desire. He looks great there

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<v Speaker 1>wearing some sort of animal around his neck in cowboy hats.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he's gone electric at that stage. I think he's

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<v Speaker 2>going through this sort of folk slash psychedelic phase. And

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<v Speaker 2>he's got a cravat and he's wearing fur and a hat,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know there's a lot going on.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all possibly too much. And there's a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>wind there, breeze, and this is one a homegrown talent.

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<v Speaker 1>Last but not least, this is a bit wrong. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what happened here. But Johnny Farnham, what is that?

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<v Speaker 2>I like the This is Johnny Farnham sing a long

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<v Speaker 2>album and he's leaning against a very famous Australian car.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's an h ka an ht hobbum.

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<v Speaker 1>Manaro, such a great car in red.

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<v Speaker 2>And Johnny's got the roll neck top on and the

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<v Speaker 2>slightly flat jeans which.

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<v Speaker 1>Is in a baby blue would you say eggshell blue?

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<v Speaker 1>Baby blue?

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<v Speaker 2>Sky blue, sky blue? And he was still young and

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<v Speaker 2>innocent then so he was called Johnny and then about

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen years later in the eighties he just became John

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<v Speaker 2>Farner when he grew up, or Farnsie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's sort of leaning against the car

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<v Speaker 1>in a nonchalant way. What's with that psychedelic fonds though?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what happened there?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, this is the thing now. If you listen as

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<v Speaker 2>I do to a lot of John Farnham's songs, there

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<v Speaker 2>was one that came out in nineteen sixty nine or

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<v Speaker 2>seventy called one and you can hear a very psychedelic trend.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it might have been the only psychedelic song

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<v Speaker 2>he did, but there was no way of getting away

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<v Speaker 2>from it at Australia or anywhere in the world at

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<v Speaker 2>that time.

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<v Speaker 1>So the key to all these album cover is just

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<v Speaker 1>a small selection from a very very extensive collection. The

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<v Speaker 1>band who it's about, what they represent, nice and easy.

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<v Speaker 2>The message and the mess and perhaps a certain as

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<v Speaker 2>Austin Powers once said, I don't know what about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it translates as you as a kla that.

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<v Speaker 1>You have it. So shame on you, Sabrina. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>like your album cover, I do.

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<v Speaker 2>So says you know, I'm an officionado of skin carey

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<v Speaker 2>rigorous skin care regime. It takes me hours every day

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<v Speaker 2>to look the way I do. And apparently, after analyzing

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<v Speaker 2>beauty routines from no few of them one hundred TikTok

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<v Speaker 2>videos by content creators, what is that? Ages seven through

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<v Speaker 2>to eighteen, researchers have found an average of eleven potentially

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<v Speaker 2>irritating active ingredients in skin care regimes. Now. To be

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<v Speaker 2>quite honest, I've always thought, you know, soap and water

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<v Speaker 2>is all you really need for healthy, glowing skin. But

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<v Speaker 2>is it more complicated than that?

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<v Speaker 1>Slightly? Funnily enough, I caught up with a very young

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<v Speaker 1>fella when I was doing some car stuff and he said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just use palm leive. I said, what is pali

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<v Speaker 1>pal malieve? So it was sort of ironic because it

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<v Speaker 1>was so simple, but even the way he pronounced it, So, Tom,

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<v Speaker 1>what's happened? Skincare has got incredibly complex for young girls

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<v Speaker 1>and they don't need that much. So when our fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>year olds in to me, Mummy, I would like a serum,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, honey, I didn't use serums till my late forties.

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<v Speaker 2>Is a serum?

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<v Speaker 4>To me?

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like it's a cure for a plate.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's sort of like in a skincare regime, you

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<v Speaker 1>could have like a pre cleanse, a cleanse, a post cleanse,

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<v Speaker 1>a tona, a serum, or a moisturizer. A tona is

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<v Speaker 1>sort of often has alcohol in it and just burns

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<v Speaker 1>your face off.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't drink it, you just pour it on your face,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's like it's like deathol or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Ringent and it gets rid of all the I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, you know, let me finish the massive list.

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<v Speaker 1>Then a serum which is kind of like a gloopy, thicker,

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<v Speaker 1>honey textured sort of product you put on your face,

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<v Speaker 1>then a moisturizer, and then an SBF and then I cream. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So now the problem is, that's all right if you're sixty,

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<v Speaker 1>right when you're fifteen, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't need it.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't need it.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you need to do is stay out of

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<v Speaker 2>the sun.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct. That is the best skin care message you can

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<v Speaker 1>give any team, which is SBF, stay out of the sun.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember on school this week, which I like to

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<v Speaker 2>think I invented in nineteen eighty five. Anyway, we went

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<v Speaker 2>up to the gold coast as you do, and you

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<v Speaker 2>could walk onto one of the all the main beach there,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't remember where it was, and a guy with

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<v Speaker 2>it like a spray gun, like a powered spray gun.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd stand there just in your speedos and he'd walk

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<v Speaker 2>around you and spray every interview in oil and then

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<v Speaker 2>you sort of lie on the beach and get cooked

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<v Speaker 2>by the sun.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about that. But so you didn't suffer from zits

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<v Speaker 1>or acne? Did you? I really did, And it really

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<v Speaker 1>scars you literally and figuratively as a young person. So look,

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<v Speaker 1>if perhaps a young kid has routine has problem skin,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all for looking at all different solutions. There's great

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<v Speaker 1>lasers and things young kids can have for that. But

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know how debilitating it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen another. But coating your face in all this

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<v Speaker 2>gunk is not going to help your skin.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to make it worse.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to clog it up. But I mean imaged

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<v Speaker 2>if I ran, I don't know that. What's that coming

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<v Speaker 2>Mecca that sells cosmic? I mean, I think this sort

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff is fantastic. Teenage girls say going on eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>different bottles of sea is just to get ready to

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<v Speaker 2>go to school each day.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it becomes kind of a like like I

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<v Speaker 1>guess people might collect cars or handbags. Then for girls,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, look at my shelf.

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<v Speaker 2>With all the products I use. Now I'm speaking that

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<v Speaker 2>I went into an eighteen year olds rumored college into

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<v Speaker 2>his room, and what he had was a rack of

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<v Speaker 2>after after shaving spray on deodorant, you know, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Whole old factory things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, Grip team boys. I welcome it because in our day.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just bo o bo no, no, no, there

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<v Speaker 2>was Roscar, No, there was there was the terms of

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<v Speaker 2>the after show we had. There was old Spice thirty three,

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<v Speaker 2>thirty three and my favorite blue Stratos. I love that

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<v Speaker 2>and the ad you'd be in a hang glider, a

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<v Speaker 2>white hand glider and a blue sky and then somehow

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<v Speaker 2>turned into an eagle and then you land and you anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>But a lot of sort of metamorphoses in after shave ads.

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Driver from Star.

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<v Speaker 2>Wars, he's Darth Vader's dad, ending.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, he's in a burbary commercial for Assent, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think he morphs into a horse. He's like riding

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<v Speaker 1>a horse. And then I mean, check this out it's not.

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<v Speaker 4>Enough to merely train with horses. I almost joined it

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<v Speaker 4>to the jedi oship, where the force will surround us.

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<v Speaker 4>How to treat us bind us to become a hero,

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<v Speaker 4>I must first become a horse, Jedi horse from Burbery.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, we digress back to teen girls. It has become

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<v Speaker 1>awfully complicated, overly expensive, and where have they got to

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<v Speaker 1>go for the rest of their life? Well, there you go, Tom,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got all your funeral like plans written down. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope you've got mine as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed, I'm just gonna say it with my choice of song,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm getting more religious as I get older, it

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<v Speaker 2>needs to be called. You know, you're cramming for the

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<v Speaker 2>finals when you suddenly think, oh, what have God Israel?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I should believing in him. The song I've chosen

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<v Speaker 2>Moving on Up is because I'll be going up to Heaven,

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<v Speaker 2>I hope.

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