Speaker 1: Well, he's the most sought after name in free agency,
Speaker 1: and tonight we asked the question, could there be a
Speaker 1: late twist in the chase of Tom Daconing. We've got
Speaker 1: exclusive details on Footy Classified Plus Matthew Lloyd has had
Speaker 1: enough and he's seen enough when it comes to the
Speaker 1: Melbourne Football Club. He believes change is needed at the top.
Speaker 1: Strap yourselves in, get set. It's fully classified. Good evening everyone,
Speaker 1: it's great to be back. Welcome to Footy Classified. We've
Speaker 1: got a lot to get to tonight, so let's get
Speaker 1: straight to welcoming our star studded panel. We begin with
Speaker 1: the award winning Damian Barrett, one of the best journos
Speaker 1: in the country. Damo, Welcome to you. Jimmy Bartel, the
Speaker 1: enormous and medallist, the Brandlow Medalist and the triple Premiership
Speaker 1: play Welcome to you, Jimmy. Evening Sam and the man who
Speaker 1: was on twelve occasions, yes twelve, the leading goalkicker at
Speaker 1: the SNA Football Club, the legendary Matthew Lloyd. Ludo great
Speaker 1: tab make the show.
Speaker 2: Thank you the same.
Speaker 3: Tom de Cooning is the most sought free agent in
Speaker 3: the game. You've got an update on his situation tonight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a really interesting situation. I think as of two
Speaker 1: weeks ago there was a resignation internally at Carlton that
Speaker 1: he was going to join Saint Kilder on this mega
Speaker 1: seven year deal worth upwards of one point six million
Speaker 1: dollars per season. I can tell you tonight that on
Speaker 1: Friday before leaving for Perth, Tom Deconing actually asked for
Speaker 1: a meeting with the incoming chief executive, Graham Wright. They
Speaker 1: had that meeting above the gym at the football club
Speaker 1: in Brian Cook's office, the man who is about to
Speaker 1: leave as chief executive, and in that meeting, Tom de
Speaker 1: Cooning essentially asked Graham Wright, who, as you quite rightly
Speaker 1: wrote Damil a couple of weeks ago on AFL dot com,
Speaker 1: was an agent of change. Okay, if I am going
Speaker 1: to stay at this football club, what is going to change?
Speaker 1: Really interesting conversation, and I think tell you tonight that
Speaker 1: senior Carleton people walked away from knowledge of that meeting,
Speaker 1: including some of his senior teammates, thinking okay, well we
Speaker 1: thought this guy was gone. But if he's seeking these
Speaker 1: sort of meaning at meetings, maybe demote there's a chance he.
Speaker 4: Stays Yeah, it's an interesting development.
Speaker 3: And in asking for the answer to that question, did
Speaker 3: he actually want change?
Speaker 1: I think that there is a senior group of Carlton
Speaker 1: players who believe that they have enough talent at the
Speaker 1: club's disposal to get them closer to a flag than
Speaker 1: what they are. But clearly, and we've been talking order
Speaker 1: on this show for a while, there is change needed.
Speaker 1: It's just what levers they pull and what Graham Wright
Speaker 1: decides to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I can understand him asking questions of the
Speaker 2: club before he signs. I think it is a good
Speaker 2: sign because everyone in the industry was talking that he's
Speaker 2: probably going to leave, So that is a good sign
Speaker 2: for Carlton. But to me, he's just about going their
Speaker 2: best player and they've got a lot of guys who
Speaker 2: are just stagnating poor depth.
Speaker 1: Is he their most important plant?
Speaker 2: Ah? I wouldn't have said that maybe five or six
Speaker 2: weeks ago, but I reckon that right now as valuable
Speaker 2: as anyone at Carlton.
Speaker 1: Jimmy, We'll just stay or would you go? Yeah?
Speaker 5: I think he wants to know where the club's going
Speaker 5: to go, Like, you can't have another year where you
Speaker 5: got the ups and downs of the season, and I
Speaker 5: guess he's wanting to see, well, what are you going
Speaker 5: to refresh around the football, partner, what's going to shift
Speaker 5: in the way we play out football that takes us
Speaker 5: up and beyond of course to play finals, be a
Speaker 5: top four side that a lot of us expected in
Speaker 5: the last couple of years, and success is a great
Speaker 5: motivation to stay and you do sacrifice money to stay
Speaker 5: part of good teams.
Speaker 1: We should say. We spoke to Graham Wright before going
Speaker 1: to air tonight. He wasn't willing to commit publicly, but
Speaker 1: he did confirm the meeting took place and that it
Speaker 1: was one of several meetings he's had with Tom Deconing
Speaker 1: over recent weeks. Lordy the Demons. It was another poor
Speaker 1: loss from Simon Goodwin's men. Have you seen enough?
Speaker 2: Well, I've been thinking obviously watching Melbourne and you look
Speaker 2: at their records since they last won the premiership and
Speaker 2: they've just been on the decline since. So they went
Speaker 2: out in straight sets in two finals series. So you
Speaker 2: see twenty twenty two, fantastic season six but out in
Speaker 2: straight sets. Twenty twenty three again good season, but out
Speaker 2: in straight sets, and it's been a real decline since then.
Speaker 2: And I've heard them talk about what they need to
Speaker 2: address over the off season, and yet we sit here
Speaker 2: at the completion of Round fourteen and they are a
Speaker 2: bottom four club.
Speaker 1: So what do you say.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is Simon Goodwin his contract at the
Speaker 2: end of next year. But I would consider moving on
Speaker 2: Simon Goodwin at the end of the year for the
Speaker 2: reason that do they need fresh ideas? And I respect Simon,
Speaker 2: He's a premiership coach and he's brought a lot of
Speaker 2: success to Melbourne, but do they need a fresh set
Speaker 2: of eyes overseeing the program? Just come in while you've
Speaker 2: got Gorne Petruca, Oliver Byney Pickett made leave. There's stars
Speaker 2: out there. But the same problems happen at Melbourne. So
Speaker 2: they misshots, poor inside fifty entries, the lack of connection
Speaker 2: and they've had moments and patches through the last six weeks.
Speaker 2: This is okay, but we're still hearing the same things
Speaker 2: over the weekend and the same problems.
Speaker 1: And we heard a few of them from the man himself,
Speaker 1: Simon Goodwin after the game. Clearly, you know the way
Speaker 1: we entered the ball inside fifty certainly wasn't to the
Speaker 1: standard that it needs.
Speaker 4: To be.
Speaker 1: It was a bit of everything, you know, our decision making.
Speaker 6: Ability to lower our eyes, ability to airly have an
Speaker 6: impact when we had our opportunities, ability to stay calm.
Speaker 1: And composed and really finish the play.
Speaker 3: That is a non repeat type of statement, isn't it?
Speaker 3: From Simon Goodwin post match And to Lordo's point, it
Speaker 3: has been happening since the twenty twenty three final series
Speaker 3: where they did kick themselves out of it in two
Speaker 3: consecutive finals.
Speaker 4: So it's interesting to you hear you say though that.
Speaker 3: It should be a change at the coaching level, and
Speaker 3: not necessarily the people around the coach, because that's also
Speaker 3: been in focus the people around Simon Goodwin and equally
Speaker 3: changed to the Plaine list. I mean, these mistakes and
Speaker 3: what he's referring to, and this is why he's on repeat.
Speaker 3: They're missing goals and they're losing games in a very
Speaker 3: similar fashion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so what you're sort of chained see already? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh they go about to in coming Yeah, and then
Speaker 2: they've got the new president new president, Yeah so but
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. So that's happening. But on field, Jimmy
Speaker 2: just spoke about the coning and what he's maybe looking
Speaker 2: for about change and seeing something. I just think that
Speaker 2: that's the time. It isn't Melbourne, Like I think the
Speaker 2: on field stuff to me has said broken, it's a
Speaker 2: broken record. And that's why I think do they go
Speaker 2: in another year and just put faith in in that
Speaker 2: it's suddenly going to turn around next year because all
Speaker 2: the players are out there, they've got generational type players,
Speaker 2: and they're finishing bottom.
Speaker 4: And they've locked themselves into those deals.
Speaker 3: Jimmy, as we take a look at what they have
Speaker 3: done with their contracting of seenior players on long term deals,
Speaker 3: and there's big, massive money attached to pretty much all
Speaker 3: of those deals, even inclusive of jakb Ben Royan, who
Speaker 3: has not performed to expectation. I know he's still a
Speaker 3: young player in the system, but that's a long term deal.
Speaker 3: Is that suffocating when you look at that now, knowing
Speaker 3: how they're playing in twenty twenty five some of those
Speaker 3: players on at least you take Gorne out of that equation.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Look, if they're going to move forwardy're going to
Speaker 5: have to have an adjustment in their game plan. I
Speaker 5: think we all acknowledge the way that they're playing isn't sustainable.
Speaker 5: The game has moved on from that heavy life of
Speaker 5: bang crash contested footy and of course the mix they
Speaker 5: went with, the mix that they spooked about, you know, Gorn, Oliver,
Speaker 5: Petrarca and Viney in the midfield. Now they won the footy,
Speaker 5: but they're not getting it done with their ball use
Speaker 5: on the weekend.
Speaker 2: So I'm not saying get rid of them, but is.
Speaker 5: There opportunities to actually play the younger players in the
Speaker 5: more important role? So next year going forward, do we
Speaker 5: see more of Lindsay in there? Do we see more
Speaker 5: of Langford in?
Speaker 2: There?
Speaker 5: Is Cosey more fifty to fifty midfield, so they've got
Speaker 5: the young Thalstropters. He come through the midfield as well,
Speaker 5: so they're going to need to refresh the ideas as
Speaker 5: well and game style they actually catch up with some
Speaker 5: of these sides, they've gone past them.
Speaker 1: Jimmy mentioned Pickett. What did you make him his game
Speaker 1: on the weekend? The tail of two halves? It was?
Speaker 2: It was so he was the best player on toim
Speaker 2: Melbourne in that first half and then like his team
Speaker 2: late in the piece, they got blown away. So just
Speaker 2: two disposals, so we saw he got a knock, So
Speaker 2: I'd like to give him the benefit, the benefit of
Speaker 2: the doubt with the knock, because you know, he was
Speaker 2: exquisite again in that first half.
Speaker 3: Sim You know that the trade space as well as
Speaker 3: anyone as we look at what Pickeard is doing in
Speaker 3: those recent game after signing that nine year deal last week.
Speaker 4: We talked regularly in the lead up to last.
Speaker 3: Year's trade period about what could happen to some of
Speaker 3: those names on that list, that Oliver obviously Petruca as well.
Speaker 3: I personally expect those two names again to be talked
Speaker 3: about in the trade period. Are you hearing the same
Speaker 3: thing this time around?
Speaker 1: I'd be surprised. Look, it doesn't look like they're gonna
Speaker 1: make the aid, so I'd be surprised if clubs don't
Speaker 1: circle again. The thing that interests me with Melbourne, Jimmy,
Speaker 1: is that we've been talking about their lack of key
Speaker 1: forwards for a while now, and yet outside of Taylor
Speaker 1: Walker a few years ago before he resigned, I can't
Speaker 1: really remember them being linked to chasing one and like
Speaker 1: you know, we've got I know Jamar is in a
Speaker 1: different space and we'll talk about him in a second,
Speaker 1: So maybe he's not the guy, but Oscar Allen available
Speaker 1: and yet Melbourne never seemed to get linked to these guys.
Speaker 5: No, we don't know the big idea now, we don't
Speaker 5: know whether they've got plans, you know, behind closed doors
Speaker 5: and they've had to run at them and they've just
Speaker 5: got a flat no. But you find a lot of
Speaker 5: these key forwards get locked up.
Speaker 2: For a considerable amount of time.
Speaker 5: But what is the big idea that they're throwing up
Speaker 5: on the whiteboard like hack they executed, I think with
Speaker 5: the advantage now we're moving to multiple drafts that you
Speaker 5: can trade into, of course with picks as well, but
Speaker 5: what would be the big idea key forward? And if
Speaker 5: you can't get one where you've got to shift the
Speaker 5: game plan because if you're going to just dump the
Speaker 5: ball along inside forward fifty with no real key options,
Speaker 5: you're not going to win. You're not going to keep
Speaker 5: big enough score.
Speaker 2: So we bought in Nathan Jones this year but midfield
Speaker 2: was a midfield coach. But I'm not sure what else
Speaker 2: has changed. So that's what I'll never forget when Damion
Speaker 2: hard because I said the same thing about Damien and
Speaker 2: it was he stayed. They supported Damien and he she said,
Speaker 2: it's one of the great decisions they've ever made. But
Speaker 2: in came Blake Carrouselo. Justin Lepich was in the twenty
Speaker 2: sixteen sixteen there was a whole suite and he changed
Speaker 2: and it was a totally different brand of football. And
Speaker 2: I think if Simon is the state, I think that's
Speaker 2: what it might be. Need a whole suite of coaches
Speaker 2: to come in and change his ideas.
Speaker 1: Let's move on to your old club now, Lordy, there's
Speaker 1: such a hard one to read because they've had some
Speaker 1: surprise wins and they got themselves in a position where
Speaker 1: their ladder position was looking okay, but in recent weeks
Speaker 1: when they get beaten, they get beaten badly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it's really tricky, and I was
Speaker 2: pretty hard yesterday on the decision making.
Speaker 1: Of And that's the comparison to twenty sixteen, which is
Speaker 1: of course in the height of them dealing with the
Speaker 1: drug Sarget demo.
Speaker 4: They're thirty four players were banned.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm not sure any team could cope with
Speaker 2: what they're dealing with at the moment. So I didn't
Speaker 2: like the loss, So I'm not letting them away. I
Speaker 2: hate seeing any team lose by ninety odd because it's
Speaker 2: not competitive enough at AFL level when you send out
Speaker 2: twenty two players but four of their best six defenders
Speaker 2: aren't playing, so Ridley, Reed, Redmond and Mackay. So we're
Speaker 2: going to talk about Zach Merritt soon. The reason he's
Speaker 2: changed roles is because they're that poor back there. Laverdees
Speaker 2: keep the guys trying to play a role that he
Speaker 2: shouldn't be and then Jones, Draper, Langford and Bryan so
Speaker 2: for So they've got probably seven or eight of their
Speaker 2: best twenty two not playing. So's they're hard to judge
Speaker 2: this year because I wanted to judge them hard this
Speaker 2: year and say have they improved? But I think with
Speaker 2: the amount of players they've got out, it's really hard
Speaker 2: to talk about him at all.
Speaker 1: And despite the injuries boys, it does seem that there's
Speaker 1: a similar theme coming from brad Scott even after heavy losses,
Speaker 1: and that that is there's a certain way they want
Speaker 1: to play, come hell or high water.
Speaker 6: I mean, the margin is the margin, but we never
Speaker 6: went into a game saving mode.
Speaker 1: Let's just get beaten by less. You know, we certainly
Speaker 1: wanted to come out and.
Speaker 6: Compete and not just sit back and wait for Geelong
Speaker 6: to overwhelm us. Bailey Dale has the ball a lot.
Speaker 6: You know, we had a couple of plans for him.
Speaker 6: Clearly both of them didn't work. Bailey Smith and Max
Speaker 6: Holmes were very very good. Our plans for those two
Speaker 6: in particular didn't work. And I say plans plural. But
Speaker 6: you know, we've got to use this as an opportunity
Speaker 6: to practice against the best teams, to bridge the gap
Speaker 6: to where we want to be. You know, we'll frame
Speaker 6: this as an opportunity to continue to get better.
Speaker 3: There's only a big picture approach to what they're doing
Speaker 3: that there's absolutely no doubt about that, and maybe the
Speaker 3: injuries have forced that, Jimmy, But when you look at
Speaker 3: the way he's a merit the captain is being used,
Speaker 3: is it at or to the club's detriment right now
Speaker 3: that he's not being used in the way he has
Speaker 3: traditionally been used in two hundred games of footy.
Speaker 2: No, I think Lloydy touched on it before.
Speaker 5: If you're they're inexperienced everywhere, but where their most inexperienced
Speaker 5: is their back six, of course, and at least through
Speaker 5: the midfield.
Speaker 2: You've still got set of field.
Speaker 5: Durham of course is out, but he's been there, called
Speaker 5: well and big Goldie, so you've got enough experience there
Speaker 5: to get the job done. And clearly you want to
Speaker 5: get the ball out of your back fifty and he's
Speaker 5: got quality in class so it doesn't live back there.
Speaker 5: But when Brad Scott's talking about the plans they didn't execute,
Speaker 5: this is the really key important bit is he's got
Speaker 5: to actually ask the young players the three things. Do
Speaker 5: they not understand what the plan is? Two are they
Speaker 5: not capable of it physically or skill wise?
Speaker 2: Or three do they don't want to? So he can
Speaker 2: actually sift through his list pretty quickly.
Speaker 4: Can you answer those questions for it?
Speaker 5: Well, that's what he needs to sit down with each player.
Speaker 5: Whoever had the plan on bailey Dale?
Speaker 4: Or what are you seeing as a commentator?
Speaker 5: Well, I don't know the third one, and if you
Speaker 5: find out anyone who's on that third one where you
Speaker 5: don't want.
Speaker 2: To, that makes your list management decisions pretty easy. Out
Speaker 2: you go.
Speaker 5: But the other two you can actually address, so you
Speaker 5: can sit them down, you can walk them through it,
Speaker 5: you can teach them the skill where you want to
Speaker 5: be physically not capable.
Speaker 2: Can they get fitter or are they up to the AFL standard.
Speaker 1: I might be reading a little bit too much into this,
Speaker 1: but have a listen. This is right at the end
Speaker 1: of the press conference. I wonder if this was a
Speaker 1: message from Brad Scott to some of his older players.
Speaker 6: We've exposed players to AFL footy that wouldn't have played otherwise,
Speaker 6: and you know there are some of those young boys
Speaker 6: that I don't think we'll go out about saying for
Speaker 6: a long time, regardless of who comes back.
Speaker 1: So he almost finished the answer and then through it
Speaker 1: regardless of who comes back. That to me felt like
Speaker 1: Brad Scott' saying there's a bit of a change of
Speaker 1: the guard here, like we've been having on the weekend.
Speaker 1: But I see a way out of this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's guy's like I think Sheil Sadus Hobbs who
Speaker 2: all played in the and Davy who played in the
Speaker 2: seconds over on the weekend. And then that got guys
Speaker 2: who are all injured who they might he might be
Speaker 2: questioning Ardiston, Hobbs A top picks they come, yeah, but
Speaker 2: they just haven't been good enough unfortunately.
Speaker 7: So.
Speaker 4: Either being subbed out or being used as a sulf.
Speaker 2: That's a statement towards Archie perkos So. I think the
Speaker 2: belief is that the players that have come in like Roberts,
Speaker 2: CaCO Caddy have a real first for it, an energy,
Speaker 2: an energy, whereas some who have been drafted before maybe
Speaker 2: have you know, it's a real wake up call for them. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I saw that as a positive as well. Lordy
Speaker 2: and Zach Johnson.
Speaker 5: And Angus Klark, if they didn't get the opportunity, we
Speaker 5: will know.
Speaker 2: But looking those two belong at AFL level.
Speaker 3: So Jimmy, they're run home and the draft picks have
Speaker 3: now got at hand. What does the rest of this
Speaker 3: season look like for them? And what do they do
Speaker 3: with those particular picks. When it comes to the type
Speaker 3: of player that they'll be seeking.
Speaker 5: We'll go back to the draft again, because clearly they're
Speaker 5: looking for young talent.
Speaker 2: They want to build for the future.
Speaker 5: The big decision they've got to make moving forward is
Speaker 5: what they're doing with Draper. Now, he'd probably get likely
Speaker 5: demo the magic herbs and spices as you love to
Speaker 5: talk about. He'd probably get a banned one compensation for him,
Speaker 5: which gives you three picks around the first ten let's
Speaker 5: call it the first dozens, and Draper get a band one?
Speaker 4: Would he?
Speaker 5: Well, what the contract would be offered? And then it
Speaker 5: always comes after your first pick where and then they're
Speaker 5: going to finish that. That makes three picks in the
Speaker 5: first twelve or so would you do that? Well, depends
Speaker 5: on what they say from their other young ruckman they've
Speaker 5: got on their list. Do they back them, do they
Speaker 5: trust them enough?
Speaker 2: Who's worth more on the market moment, Draper or Oscar Allen? Well,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like you, because Oscar Allen
Speaker 2: the Sun's going to be banned one and isn't Draper?
Speaker 1: Who would you be taking first up against the school
Speaker 1: yard wall?
Speaker 2: Well, I think Draper's got more upside with what I've
Speaker 2: seen from coming off as season and yeah, yeah, so
Speaker 2: I think what he showed previous. So Brisbane are in
Speaker 2: for both of them, I suppose. So I just think
Speaker 2: that Brisbane need a ruckman, probably more than they need
Speaker 2: to keep forward.
Speaker 1: Right now, so we know the Bombers were disappointing. The
Speaker 1: Saints were pretty disappointing as well, and they can be
Speaker 1: sort of tied together in many ways given their their
Speaker 1: ladder position. Than the fact that their fans are quite frustrated.
Speaker 1: But I think the way they're going about it is
Speaker 1: quite different. And this was very interesting from former West
Speaker 1: Coast Premiership coach Adam Simpson on the weekend.
Speaker 8: What mcold is doing now at West Coast it's ball movement,
Speaker 8: speed ford hand or we're going to chase an identity
Speaker 8: and we're going to start here. And if that's what
Speaker 8: Securita are doing, what are they chasing now?
Speaker 1: What's the little things.
Speaker 8: They're going to tick At the end of the year
Speaker 8: we won six games, eight games, whatever it is, but
Speaker 8: we took a step forward in this progression of our
Speaker 8: style of play. Or is it just well, let's just
Speaker 8: get through this year. We're not good enough Townent, it's
Speaker 8: not there. We'll coach as hard as we can not
Speaker 8: to lose by a lot, which I've done before as well.
Speaker 8: It feels like he's in that space as much as
Speaker 8: it's hey, we're heading this way, we're playing this brand,
Speaker 8: We're going to be hard to play against them. Whatever
Speaker 8: it is internally you're chasing and you project.
Speaker 1: It's interesting, Jimmy, are you are you guys seeing that?
Speaker 1: Are you seeing a team lot Ross unlike Essendon who
Speaker 1: are just mistigating the heavy defeats.
Speaker 5: They've got a lot of young talent on their list,
Speaker 5: and I know I've been pretty positive about their young
Speaker 5: tale here on this panel, but I think it's now
Speaker 5: an opportunity to give them more games and actually start
Speaker 5: building and connecting together. The issue of the Saints have
Speaker 5: got is they've got some very senior players above twenty
Speaker 5: eight twenty nine, and then they've got this big band
Speaker 5: below twenty four. Maxiking is probably the top of that
Speaker 5: at twenty four, but they don't have a lot through
Speaker 5: that middle section as well that can help them go
Speaker 5: through it. So I'd actually like to see more of
Speaker 5: Wilson and these sort of guys box Shaw play more
Speaker 5: football played together. Let's see that style that Adam Simpson's
Speaker 5: talking about. What are you going to play two years
Speaker 5: from now?
Speaker 4: He's still the king to flector.
Speaker 3: I mean they've now lost seven matches of nine and
Speaker 3: I feel there in absolutely no man's land. He's third
Speaker 3: season as coach and he's happened to engage in issues
Speaker 3: that mean nothing to the form line. This is the
Speaker 3: crowded debate that he had with Ronni Lerner post mates my.
Speaker 7: Media manager said, Thursday nights are really difficult. Most clubs
Speaker 7: are really struggling because kids have got to go up
Speaker 7: for school Thursday night. Yeah, it's a challenging night. But
Speaker 7: I'd say two of the lower drawing clubs in the competition,
Speaker 7: I have twenty thousand decent for a Thursday night. I
Speaker 7: would think pretty good.
Speaker 1: Ross thought it was pretty good for twenty thousand or
Speaker 1: a Thursday night. I think there would be a debate
Speaker 1: about that. It is interesting because if you ask the
Speaker 1: AFL about the poor crowd, they'll point to the fact that, well,
Speaker 1: our ratings for Thursday night are really strong, and I
Speaker 1: completely understand that argument. It's a good Thursday night product.
Speaker 1: You said on radio on the weekend, Lord, you love
Speaker 1: going home for fullty training on a Thursday, putting the
Speaker 1: feed up and knowing that there's footy on. I think
Speaker 1: people would largely agree with that. And yet we've got
Speaker 1: a situation where we're announcing a two thirty Grand Final
Speaker 1: start time again, which goes against everything that the AFL
Speaker 1: is propagating about about crowds. So here we are again.
Speaker 1: It's become a little bit embarrassing, to be quite frank,
Speaker 1: that we have this debate every year. The AFL loves
Speaker 1: the debate demo, and then they announced that we'll hang on.
Speaker 1: The announcement is there's no announcement.
Speaker 4: We're not changing it now, and it's all you need
Speaker 4: to remind people of.
Speaker 3: And I understand is a fans association that thinks it's
Speaker 3: got to say in this, and maybe it does, but
Speaker 3: there's not one team that asks for a two thirty
Speaker 3: Saturday game at any stage of any given season. So
Speaker 3: it just makes no sense, zero sense to play the
Speaker 3: biggest game, the Marquee game, the Pinnacle game, the one
Speaker 3: that everyone's trying to reach at two thirty on a Saturday.
Speaker 1: Just beggars believe Jimmy that in a billion dollar industry,
Speaker 1: the only argument for the two thirty Grand Final is
Speaker 1: arts tradition.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. Yeah, but there's a.
Speaker 1: Bit why though, because of tradition, because it's always been
Speaker 1: that way.
Speaker 2: I've always liked it. Yeah, the love, the love of
Speaker 2: just waking up and enjoying the morning and knowing it's
Speaker 2: two thirty days.
Speaker 1: But if it was pushed back ninety minutes, would that
Speaker 1: really change your day?
Speaker 2: You're saying four o'clock. Yeah, I wouldn't change the day.
Speaker 1: Now, can get an next time on to night? No,
Speaker 1: No one's saying night, but I think four o'clock with
Speaker 1: an extra million viewers.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think most people can get to four o'clock.
Speaker 5: But I'm in the daylight. There's plenty of other big events.
Speaker 5: I know everyone goes, oh, look at all the other
Speaker 5: big events at night. There's plenty of other big events
Speaker 5: that happened during the daytime as well.
Speaker 1: So four o'clock you get both, get the day and
Speaker 1: then the night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no night grand final.
Speaker 1: Okay. One man that we hope will be playing in
Speaker 1: many A Grand Finals Jamari yugle Haagen. We know he's
Speaker 1: had a rough patch of late demo, but it was
Speaker 1: positive signs that he was back at the club at least.
Speaker 3: That all positive signs by way of words, and yes,
Speaker 3: I'm back here to play. There's going to be a
Speaker 3: I'd imagine Sam a four to six week runway of
Speaker 3: him needing to get a fitness training block in before
Speaker 3: he's even potentially considered for VFL's selection, and then you
Speaker 3: see what.
Speaker 4: Happens after that.
Speaker 3: I'd still be staggered if he was to be playing
Speaker 3: senior football for the Bulldogs inside the twenty twenty five season,
Speaker 3: given the disappointment and the fractured relationships that have basically
Speaker 3: occurred since the lead into last year's elimination final loss
Speaker 3: to Hawthorne in twenty twenty four, and the problems that
Speaker 3: have been there, the mental health part of it. We
Speaker 3: always packed that into this consideration and this conversation. But
Speaker 3: ultimately he's made a decision to get back to the
Speaker 3: footy club. Now only actions will be able to allow.
Speaker 4: Him to do so.
Speaker 1: Swan's next year or not. Sure, Yeah, I've got.
Speaker 4: To think they are out.
Speaker 1: They're a fit.
Speaker 3: I'm in Tom Harley leaving that club at the end
Speaker 3: of the year. Now, it's not his decision effectively, it's
Speaker 3: not his, you know, to make that decision.
Speaker 4: Look, we know that the Melbourne Footy Club. We've talked
Speaker 4: about them BEFO.
Speaker 3: Or whether they want to bring a Jamar Juglehagen situation
Speaker 3: into their operations which may need some fixing already. Lord
Speaker 3: Collingwood's I wouldn't rule them out totally, and I still
Speaker 3: know Hawthorne needs afford in a manner it hasn't got
Speaker 3: at the moment.
Speaker 4: I haven't heard them link to it. But it just
Speaker 4: wouldn't shock me.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be falling off his chair if they were
Speaker 3: to consider it, If he was to get himself fit
Speaker 3: and ready and at least presentable to the marketplace in
Speaker 3: a way that he hasn't been since middle of last year.
Speaker 2: You just hope and pray that the last few months
Speaker 2: he's realized just how good the game is and how
Speaker 2: much he's.
Speaker 1: Missed it, and how fragile you career can be.
Speaker 2: And also that here the regrets. He's going to have
Speaker 2: the biggest regrets of his life in ten years time,
Speaker 2: or it might be two a year's time to say,
Speaker 2: what have I done? What have I given? Ay, I've
Speaker 2: given away everything I've ever wanted in my life? And
Speaker 2: what to do? What to do? What after that? So
Speaker 2: I couldn't There's no way you could touch him right
Speaker 2: now if you're any other club, I don't see why
Speaker 2: how you could.
Speaker 1: Well, it's talent.
Speaker 2: You take the risk, wouldn't you. Someone will take the risk.
Speaker 2: But at what a base payment?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean we saw with Jesse Hogan what GWS
Speaker 1: were able to do. Gave the guy a one year
Speaker 1: deal on peanuts and he's now Colin Medlers great.
Speaker 2: The switch has gone off and it's one of the
Speaker 2: great joys to see what he's doing. And I just hope,
Speaker 2: hope it happens with Jamara.
Speaker 3: He's contra can just remind people for next year, So
Speaker 3: that's locked the way effectively regardless. But that would be
Speaker 3: the year to trade him and get some greater currency
Speaker 3: if you are the Bulldogs. But if that's predicated on
Speaker 3: in getting himself fit, committed, ready and through action, not
Speaker 3: just the pledge.
Speaker 1: Okay, slick start here on footy, classified plenty more still
Speaker 1: to come, do not go anywhere, including when a win
Speaker 1: feels a bit like a loss. Carlton's second half blues
Speaker 1: continue out West. Does North need an attitude adjustment as
Speaker 1: Clarko's complaints continue, this time about the fixture and more
Speaker 1: than a blip of the bigger issues at play for
Speaker 1: Chris Fagan and his raigning premiers. It's all coming up, Flogan.
Speaker 1: He wanted it to sit up for him.
Speaker 2: He split through a tackle. It's too easy to Charles
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 3: Carlton arm dominating Kerno can go over the top, snapped
Speaker 3: himself for the.
Speaker 1: End Andrew what was the just to be a quarter
Speaker 1: time message?
Speaker 2: I will pathetic in the contest.
Speaker 1: Short and swear from Andrew mcwulda he did not miss
Speaker 1: pathetic in the contest. There's two storylines. Obviously, the West
Speaker 1: Coast Eagles have been struggling all of the season under
Speaker 1: their new coach. The Blues have been struggling, though in
Speaker 1: second halves in particular. Of like their coach and their
Speaker 1: spearhead had they say after.
Speaker 9: The game, we obviously weren't able to continue to play
Speaker 9: at the same intensity. The meths of football we want
Speaker 9: to play, you know, in all three phases is really
Speaker 9: clear for us. So our ability to sustain that over
Speaker 9: the course of four quarters shouldn't be determined what the
Speaker 9: score awards actually doing to us. You're not going to
Speaker 9: get your own way for one hundred and twenty minutes.
Speaker 6: As a forward, I was loving what we're doing in
Speaker 6: the first quarter, but obviously you can't play footy like
Speaker 6: that for the four quarters.
Speaker 5: They can play footy like that for more than quarter though,
Speaker 5: and that's been the issue the last two weeks. Lloydy
Speaker 5: that the fact is they come out of the gates
Speaker 5: really well, and we've seen this not only last two weeks,
Speaker 5: but if you go back to the start of the
Speaker 5: season their first half, but the last two weeks in particular,
Speaker 5: their first quarters have actually scored it outscored the rest
Speaker 5: of the game. It's they're moving on the forward line.
Speaker 5: They've got run and zip around the contest, and we
Speaker 5: know there's an issue with Carlton as far as outside runners.
Speaker 5: Of course, when Sam Walsh is out the side, apart
Speaker 5: from Holland's behind the foot, each start is caught way back.
Speaker 5: There's not too much run and zip on the game.
Speaker 2: No, and you're not going to win games of footy
Speaker 2: against anyone else. Bottom four sides, which is essenon with
Speaker 2: their injuries, are playing like a bottom four club and
Speaker 2: the West Coast Eagles, so I'm not sure what it is.
Speaker 2: At least they're trying to change things with their ball movement,
Speaker 2: but I don't know why it just stops.
Speaker 1: So what have you seen that they're trying to change?
Speaker 1: What have you known?
Speaker 2: Just the run, the overlap, probably the kicking options that
Speaker 2: they've trained for, because we know how stifled they've been
Speaker 2: as a team, not just bombing it in and things
Speaker 2: like that off the back and the change. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know why it just stops. A quarter time
Speaker 2: and out of this game.
Speaker 3: Oscar Allen finished off the ground after suffering a leg injury.
Speaker 4: Late in the piece.
Speaker 3: It was off the ball that was diagnosed as a
Speaker 3: plantaris injury, and that can range from a recovery's perspective
Speaker 3: anywhere from three to weeks to quite longer than that. Lord,
Speaker 3: are you of the view now that with his uncertain
Speaker 3: future as a free agent. We mentioned Tom de Coney
Speaker 3: earlier in the show, but he, Oscar Allen, the Siwangman,
Speaker 3: Miller and Marcus Bontepelli are the remaining free agents.
Speaker 4: Are you now of the view that he and.
Speaker 3: The club have now best him not the plague in
Speaker 3: this year?
Speaker 2: I would be he'll want to get back because he's
Speaker 2: just had a horror time at Oscar Allen. So it
Speaker 2: just depends whether his manager gets involved and the clubs
Speaker 2: all get together and say this is best for all
Speaker 2: of us for you not to come back and play.
Speaker 1: I thought, he doesn't he have to play more in
Speaker 1: order for isn't in West Coast best interest, Damon, in
Speaker 1: order for them to get the band, which would guarantee
Speaker 1: them pick two.
Speaker 3: Well, unless he does another injury, and it's more serious
Speaker 3: in this one that he's been diagnosed worth there is. Well,
Speaker 3: I hate it when players don't play when they're fitting
Speaker 3: able to, and I don't think he is. I mean,
Speaker 3: he looks banged up, he ban, he's over every part
Speaker 3: of his body.
Speaker 4: Including the leg that went down.
Speaker 3: He's really only had the one complete season of football
Speaker 3: in the eighth that he's been on a list, and
Speaker 3: that was an extraordinarily good season.
Speaker 4: And I know that.
Speaker 3: There's massive interest in him, but there's a bit of
Speaker 3: steak here if he used to go down again. The
Speaker 3: currency on him Sam is of a I think, a
Speaker 3: delicate nature, and we know the magical herbs and spices
Speaker 3: will get it to what the AFL needs it to
Speaker 3: be to help West Coast with that scenario, that's a given.
Speaker 3: But they're only going to get those offers if he's fit.
Speaker 1: So you're saying the AFL manipulates it.
Speaker 3: Well, they will give them the first band, the first
Speaker 3: round of compensation if he does go. That's close to
Speaker 3: a guarantee.
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous that we're talking about this, like if they
Speaker 1: were a mid table team, if they were tenth right now,
Speaker 1: there's no way that they'd get a first play.
Speaker 2: So for them to get picked too. What's the number saying.
Speaker 1: If we don't know, this is the ridiculous, but it.
Speaker 2: Is that nine hundred plus.
Speaker 1: Well it's the total value of the deal, but you're
Speaker 1: looking at nine hundred plus.
Speaker 2: For at least year terms and those sorts of things.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So they'd nearly drive him to the airport.
Speaker 1: They they'd have to because it's picked two.
Speaker 2: That trick.
Speaker 3: So it's like when Melbourne got pick three for James
Speaker 3: Foley I know where, many many years down the track,
Speaker 3: but that contract he got at Hawthorne was not worthy
Speaker 3: of a pick three in the draft, which Oscar Allen's in.
Speaker 1: North Melbourne got ever so close from making it two
Speaker 1: wins from two games in their trip over to w A.
Speaker 1: Clark the coach though, Alastair Clarks, and that's some fascinating
Speaker 1: comments about the fixture.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'd like to be like the Pies and just
Speaker 10: put the MCG motesweeks. Scotti Penleby was on the claim
Speaker 10: when it came back from the Hall of Fame on Wednesday.
Speaker 10: He was laughing about the amount that we've had to
Speaker 10: travel compared to the gifts that they get playing at
Speaker 10: the MCG on a regular base.
Speaker 4: But that's the Collingwood.
Speaker 10: Side were able to generate their revenue from their crowds
Speaker 10: and their opportunities they get to play at the MCG
Speaker 10: and North aren't in that position at this current time.
Speaker 1: It wasn't actually sure Demo want to make of that
Speaker 1: when I was listening, because he had a smile on
Speaker 1: his face at the start, but it was hard not
Speaker 1: to laugh. As well as the situation like they're comparing
Speaker 1: themselves to Collingwood but they've just finished selling to homegun.
Speaker 2: That's the first point saying that was his point. He's
Speaker 2: saying that Collingwood don't have to and we have to.
Speaker 1: They didn't have to sell the home games. They didn't
Speaker 1: have to.
Speaker 2: You're saying they don't need the money.
Speaker 1: Now. Of course they need the money, but clubs need
Speaker 1: to prioritize winning before anything else. It's no good North
Speaker 1: Melbourne getting to the end of the year and saying, oh,
Speaker 1: well we finished bottom full but we made a million bucks.
Speaker 1: That doesn't help you support.
Speaker 2: But wouldn't you say it was a great success for them?
Speaker 1: No, I don't don't. I don't see it as that
Speaker 1: at all. They win that game if that's played in Melbourne.
Speaker 3: I don't think that's given either, Sam I and I've
Speaker 3: been crittical of them for I don't think it's a
Speaker 3: given that they beat Freemantle just because of hang on.
Speaker 1: The last game that Freemantle played from my memory, they
Speaker 1: got rolled by Securita by ten goals. They don't have
Speaker 1: a good record at the ground that's North Melbourne Time Ground.
Speaker 1: They lost that game in the last three minutes because
Speaker 1: of a Luke Jackson goal. They don't have their first pick.
Speaker 1: They need to win games of football, and you guys
Speaker 1: are saying that. Honestly, it wasn't the difference between.
Speaker 2: When that's a major, major sponsor, so they don't probably
Speaker 2: get sponsors for off trees for them, and so that's
Speaker 2: pretty much in the space for two weeks. They probably
Speaker 2: get a major sponsor in the space of two weeks.
Speaker 2: So I got no issues with it.
Speaker 3: LORDI, you're big on the sub rob being used for
Speaker 3: certain plays in certain ways that five use it well.
Speaker 3: On the weekend, he came on just before three quarter
Speaker 3: a time and had a good last quarter, was effective
Speaker 3: in what was a crunch last quarter for him. How
Speaker 3: often can he play this role as he comes back
Speaker 3: from another injury and easy the right man to keep
Speaker 3: using this role.
Speaker 2: I would have him in the twenty two day this week.
Speaker 2: So I saw enough from him. He's a proud man. Yes,
Speaker 2: you'd love to see him use it a little bit better.
Speaker 2: He got caught occasionally in this period too, but I
Speaker 2: liked what I saw as well. Big body when he's
Speaker 2: not inside midwordy of playing and what can he do
Speaker 2: in another role? But I'd have him in the twenty
Speaker 2: two this week.
Speaker 1: Plenty will coming up on Footy Classify. I do not
Speaker 1: go anywhere because when we come back on the other side,
Speaker 1: Matthew Lloyd is going to tell fifteen sets of supporters
Speaker 1: don't worry about the last few weeks in the year.
Speaker 1: You cannot win the flag. There are only three that
Speaker 1: can win it. That's right, lord, you reckon it is
Speaker 1: down to three. But as we go to the break,
Speaker 1: it is a huge show tonight coming up after Footy Classified.
Speaker 1: It's players. It's Josh Rachelley, Gi card Well and Oleague,
Speaker 1: Markovs the Magpie on the show. This show has been
Speaker 1: going game buses on YouTube, on socials and right here
Speaker 1: on nine and make sure at the end of Classified
Speaker 1: you do not go anywhere it's players, welcome back to
Speaker 1: footy classified time for the water cool of the thing
Speaker 1: that everyone will be talking about in the office tomorrow.
Speaker 1: And Lloyd and you're about to upset fifteen sets advanced.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's at this point this season. We're going
Speaker 2: to get to where teams just hardly lose a game
Speaker 2: from this point on, so they'll only lose one or
Speaker 2: two the Premiere from now to the rest of the season.
Speaker 2: And the ladder of where it stands right now, and
Speaker 2: I have the top three and I cannot who are
Speaker 2: a challenger for the premiership. That's Collingwood, Geelong and the
Speaker 2: Brisbane Lines. But I can't mount a case for anyone
Speaker 2: else really in the competition, none of those. No, No,
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 3: Not acknowledging that Brisbane Lines last year's Premiere wasn't even
Speaker 3: in the top.
Speaker 4: Eighty, because that's not must year.
Speaker 2: I'd banged on the door for that many years that
Speaker 2: I think that's how you do win a premiership. The
Speaker 2: Adelaide Crows haven't been in the finals. I don't think
Speaker 2: they come from anywhere.
Speaker 1: Books can't with it.
Speaker 2: So the Giants are a team who have banged on
Speaker 2: the door for a long, long period of time, So
Speaker 2: they're one that could potentially come from Hawthorne. No, they've
Speaker 2: just been too inconsistent this year. They're four lines are concern.
Speaker 2: Their depth through the midfield is a bit of a worry.
Speaker 2: I'm happy for you guys to amount a case, but
Speaker 2: that's how I feel. I'd like to mount a case
Speaker 2: for the Dockers.
Speaker 3: Am I being silly though in thinking that eight five
Speaker 3: that they could do?
Speaker 6: So?
Speaker 5: They've got potential when they play with the speed that
Speaker 5: they have in recent.
Speaker 2: Times, they are a dangerous side. But I'm with Loydy.
Speaker 5: This is where they start to make their charge sides.
Speaker 5: And we often look post Grant Fine and go, oh,
Speaker 5: hang on, they've won the last twelve or thirteen of
Speaker 5: the last fifteen.
Speaker 1: What will you do if someone other than those three
Speaker 1: teams win.
Speaker 2: I'm happy to say I'm wrong unlike some other.
Speaker 1: We went to.
Speaker 2: That's what I'll do. I'll just say I underestimate like
Speaker 2: I did Brisbane last year when I thought of that
Speaker 2: period when you finished fifth and they fell into the
Speaker 2: finals and somehow they made it work through September two.
Speaker 1: Who doesn't need to apologize for being wrong? And that's
Speaker 1: the man sitting to my right, Jimmy Bartell, because it
Speaker 1: sounds like the rest of the competition was finally waking
Speaker 1: up to what this man said many weeks ago on Classified.
Speaker 3: They're presenting Tazzy in the worst possible way in order
Speaker 3: to get this stadium across the line?
Speaker 4: Is that?
Speaker 3: Is that what you're trying to say, jim I'm just
Speaker 3: giving you.
Speaker 5: The data there demo and you make the conclusion that
Speaker 5: you want that when there's a big debate about stadium
Speaker 5: with the roof and conditions. But all of a sudden,
Speaker 5: we have gone from forty four day one twilight and
Speaker 5: only one night game over that period tome we're playing
Speaker 5: at night every time now.
Speaker 1: And he was right, wasn't because this game was tough
Speaker 1: to watch. It would have been tough to be there
Speaker 1: with a fields like temperature in the threes, but it
Speaker 1: was tough to watch on TV.
Speaker 3: And how many other people have you heard say what
Speaker 3: Jimmy said back on March thirty one in the past
Speaker 3: weeks since this particular game.
Speaker 4: So you'll be ahead of your time, Jimmy.
Speaker 5: Again, it wasn't an opinion, and it was just I
Speaker 5: was presenting stop throwing your arms up.
Speaker 2: Just think I just need to articulate it.
Speaker 4: Play that grab again, so own it.
Speaker 5: I was just presenting the data and people have now
Speaker 5: woken up to it.
Speaker 2: That wasn't an opinion.
Speaker 1: Now that you've presented the data and you've seen more data,
Speaker 1: what do you make of your conclusion that you didn't have.
Speaker 5: I really enjoyed the arm wrestlenie.
Speaker 2: It was a fantastic game that came down to the wire.
Speaker 4: The soccer score of six to five.
Speaker 5: Both of them sprayed them left and right. It was
Speaker 5: a fantastic game.
Speaker 1: It's just a lot OF's been good with the roof,
Speaker 1: isn't it.
Speaker 2: Some people would like that. Will they still play in
Speaker 2: round one of the season they're meant to come in.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think it's unlikely they come
Speaker 1: in twenty eight now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, even in the past three or four days, there's
Speaker 3: been a further reason to think this whole decision we
Speaker 3: pushed back some too.
Speaker 2: I still think they'll get their team, but maybe.
Speaker 4: Not, maybe not their twenty twenty eight star.
Speaker 1: The team's fifty to fifty for me.
Speaker 2: Really, yeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker 1: Not positive this this stadium deal is going to get done. Hey,
Speaker 1: Brisbane and GWS speaking of arm wrestles, that was one
Speaker 1: of them. Have you got concerns over Brisbane?
Speaker 2: Yet you always have a few concerns And I look
Speaker 2: forward to see how I go on Friday night in
Speaker 2: Geelong with the way they're Yeah, so second half wasn't good.
Speaker 2: They've got beaten at the contest. Groundball tackles was just
Speaker 2: non existent. It was a bit of a Hawthorn issue
Speaker 2: like that. But there was something was in the paper
Speaker 2: in the Herald Sun on Friday which really raised my
Speaker 2: eyebrows in terms of this where Levi puts team first,
Speaker 2: and it was a quote from Levi saying Chris Fagan
Speaker 2: has said to him, if you have your team first, Mantra,
Speaker 2: you'll playing this team. You're playing this team. That's to
Speaker 2: a young player playing in the first season. He's been
Speaker 2: a star right throughout the juniors and a lot of
Speaker 2: teams don't go back to back for a number of reasons.
Speaker 2: That's the lose their hunger. They want to play above
Speaker 2: the role of our rins. So they're happy to play
Speaker 2: a role. They want to be more than that. Teams
Speaker 2: work them out and that's where we're asking the questions
Speaker 2: of Brisbane at the moment.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's an early preview into the sledge Aarler which
Speaker 1: is coming up next on Footy Classified and more including
Speaker 1: good Call, bad call and hold.
Speaker 2: The Brisbane lines are off slightly in a number of areas,
Speaker 2: and I think defensive stoppages are one of them. When
Speaker 2: we saw them two weeks ago. Lose a game against
Speaker 2: the Brisbane the Adelaide Crows and all this Ben Key
Speaker 2: is standing all alone in a forward to fifty. Stop it.
Speaker 2: So Brisbane wouldn't have given that away in the finals
Speaker 2: last year. And then fast forward to the weekend, Darcy
Speaker 2: Jones all the time and the space. So they've given
Speaker 2: away two soft goals and they've lost eight points in
Speaker 2: the last two weeks in games they could have won
Speaker 2: if they improved. Moments of that. Dustin Martin, I already
Speaker 2: miss him and the way he played the game, the
Speaker 2: fusty Martin fendoff well, Cameron Rainer, This moment just made
Speaker 2: me think him Dusty. So the barge off surge getting
Speaker 2: inside forward fifty. If only Cam could put it together
Speaker 2: for a whole season, wouldn't it be great to see
Speaker 2: Cam Rainer and all Australian at some stage. Joel Fraser
Speaker 2: been one of the absolute stories of the year moments,
Speaker 2: so I thought that was earlier in the season and
Speaker 2: we saw another special moment from him on Friday night.
Speaker 2: It was that just tapping it up to himself going forward.
Speaker 2: He Matt Kennedy the improvement in the western borders because
Speaker 2: of guy's like Fraser, Willie really heg gives away a
Speaker 2: lot of free kicks and has a lot of brain faces.
Speaker 2: Does he not know the rules? So you got to
Speaker 2: get back nine to ten meters at the edge of
Speaker 2: the square, so that was one and then just running
Speaker 2: through the area. For all these good moments, he's letting
Speaker 2: his team down through his undisciplined nature. Marby Old chol
Speaker 2: Jeeze was disappointing in the first half. Like Kevin Sheedy
Speaker 2: used to take me off for one reason and one
Speaker 2: reason only, and that was being non competitive and being
Speaker 2: outmarked in situations like this. For the first half he
Speaker 2: was awful and the second half I'd love to know
Speaker 2: what Sam Mitchell said to him because he was far
Speaker 2: more competitive and that was a big, big moment. Well, Geelong,
Speaker 2: they are team first, they have been for years. Tom
Speaker 2: Hawkins was the master at it. They've become so unselfish.
Speaker 2: I saw it in the game against the Bombers. They
Speaker 2: wanted to share, and then I saw this from Charlie Kurno.
Speaker 2: He didn't want to share. I'm going forward, I'm handballing
Speaker 2: over the top. He didn't want to do that. And
Speaker 2: that's where you see the difference between great clubs and
Speaker 2: clubs just down the bottom with their team first nature.
Speaker 1: First class sledgehammer from Laudia. But pick up on the
Speaker 1: last one, though, Lado, would you have handbored that?
Speaker 2: I would have liked to have said, yes, Sam, I
Speaker 2: would you get back what you give?
Speaker 1: A lot of goals in fairness? Nine twenty six yes,
Speaker 1: nine twenty six for the great Matthew Order, Hey, just
Speaker 1: before we go to the break, and good God, bad
Speaker 1: will coming up. Josh Marny, long time number two to
Speaker 1: Laura Kane at the AFL, has departed affected immediately, So
Speaker 1: some more shuffling of the decks at AFL house, with
Speaker 1: Greg Swan and Tom Harley coming in more fully classified
Speaker 1: after this, Well we're back two footy classified. Jimmy tell
Speaker 1: to kick us off on a good call, bad call, Jimmy.
Speaker 1: The only thing worse than an early crow is a
Speaker 1: late arrow. Good card, bad call.
Speaker 5: Let's take a look at the vision of Durzmal down
Speaker 5: late against the Cats. He slots that one down by
Speaker 5: thirty five points. And oh the bow and arrow is
Speaker 5: trying to stay on brand. But maybe park the quiver
Speaker 5: in it the arrow there, just save it for next time.
Speaker 5: So good call, Sam.
Speaker 4: I said to you, any publicity is good publicity.
Speaker 1: I call back. I think this is a good call
Speaker 1: from you, Damon. I think this is in astute call
Speaker 1: you're referring. I think to this from Max Holmes. Seems
Speaker 1: like our old friend Carrow's had a bit to say
Speaker 1: about Bailey Smith. Max says, good to have Bad's back,
Speaker 1: thanks Carow. Well, he's only referring to her. I think
Speaker 1: any publicity is in fact good blublicity, Damo.
Speaker 2: Speaking of Holmes and Smith are becoming the best midfield
Speaker 2: one two punch this decade. Good call, bad call.
Speaker 3: Look at this point in Timelo, it's a bad call
Speaker 3: because as we look at this list of the other
Speaker 3: one two punches, the twenty twenty one COMBA with Clayton
Speaker 3: Oliver Christian Petruka, it's the premiership winning one. So they've
Speaker 3: got the score on the board already, but cave it
Speaker 3: is if these two do it this year, I will
Speaker 3: say good call Lloydy as a coach, it ain't over
Speaker 3: until it's over. Good call back or good call by
Speaker 3: you love love this call because Josh E. Warrell just
Speaker 3: refused to give up, and it's Nick Watson who is chasing,
Speaker 3: and this will go down one of the great moments
Speaker 3: of the year. And unfortunately they didn't win the game,
Speaker 3: but I'm sure still highlighted a number of times by
Speaker 3: Mattie Nix.
Speaker 1: Great chase, wasn't it in the wet as Well demo?
Speaker 1: Even scn Stable Nates aren't immune to the footy TV wars.
Speaker 1: Good call back up, it's a good call.
Speaker 4: And take a listen to Volcano and Kingy.
Speaker 1: I said this on the Agenda Setters maybe four weeks ago.
Speaker 1: So there's no point playing offscrellan anymore. Put him on ice.
Speaker 1: Put him on ice. Let's have a mature conversation about
Speaker 1: j Clark.
Speaker 2: Pose that question to a six weeks ago on first Crack.
Speaker 3: It's a good call, it's a one up call, and
Speaker 3: it's a passively aggressively remind people of who was first called.
Speaker 5: Sam there's a time and place for everything. Good call,
Speaker 5: bad call.
Speaker 1: Before I answer, let's take a look at Mitch Cleary.
Speaker 4: Now, dogs vans are screaming their TV.
Speaker 1: There's a certain contract call for a certain free agent
Speaker 1: in yourself still yet to be made.
Speaker 4: Are we expecting those talks to ramp up in the
Speaker 4: next little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah they should. I think this is a bad call
Speaker 1: from you. I think any journo with their soul has
Speaker 1: to ask the hard question. And that's what he's done.
Speaker 1: He's put his head over the pill.
Speaker 4: Agree with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we love bitch, We love me, Jimmy. Mitch Georgiard
Speaker 2: is a power forward the footy world forgets. Good call,
Speaker 2: bad call. I think that's a good call from you, Ldier.
Speaker 5: I know we like to talk about a lot of
Speaker 5: other forwards, but without Lacocius and Marshall being on the
Speaker 5: forward line, it's his forward line this year course, Charlie
Speaker 5: Dixon stepping away from from Port Adelaide.
Speaker 2: He gets the job done.
Speaker 5: He's normally a beautiful shot on a goal kick seven,
Speaker 5: but probably could have kicked ten or eleven the other night.
Speaker 2: I think he's an absolute star at the pair.
Speaker 3: And LORDO Australia's tradees hate the new Clark go good call,
Speaker 3: bad call.
Speaker 2: Good call by you damo. Ten years ago Clark I
Speaker 2: could have been hosting the block. He would have just
Speaker 2: played and I look at him now, just farkoh he's
Speaker 2: a mature man now, and just look at this times.
Speaker 1: Class is expensive, disticularly for you in Brighton, the price
Speaker 1: is a real high. Speaking of Lord, he don't go
Speaker 1: what do you wear? Because when we come back it's
Speaker 1: the under.
Speaker 2: Pressure closing cook. I'm a little bit nervous tonight because
Speaker 2: they're all good friends of mine. But I cooked tonight
Speaker 2: for the agenda setters because when they came to wear tonight,
Speaker 2: I honestly thought Hutchie had not paid his electricity bills.
Speaker 2: So here is the opener of the agenda setters. So
Speaker 2: I think there was a bit of trickery with their
Speaker 2: new set. But I honestly thought he hadn't paid his bills.
Speaker 2: And ten minutes later Carrow, how long has she been
Speaker 2: in television?
Speaker 1: For long long time?
Speaker 2: A major rookie era from Carrot.
Speaker 6: I don't think Chris Scott is considering, it's considering.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's my telephone. What a terrible time for
Speaker 1: that to happen. That's a new one.
Speaker 2: Slot. No, it wasn't Sam. She's your mentor, isn't she?
Speaker 1: Absolutely?
Speaker 2: What are you going to say to tomorrow?
Speaker 1: I'll probably steer clear.
Speaker 2: You're going to be Stephen May Max Gorn style.
Speaker 1: Just no, no, I just wish my phone rung as
Speaker 1: much as Carros did. Who you reckon probably get better stories?
Speaker 2: Who could it have been?
Speaker 1: You think, well, she's a very popular person. It could
Speaker 1: have been a number of a number of Andrew Demetrio.
Speaker 1: I'm just is that because she wrote about Andrew on
Speaker 1: the weekend? Is that? Is that why you're claiming?
Speaker 4: Who do you think?
Speaker 2: I'm not going to comment on that one.
Speaker 1: What do you know? Who was? Have you done?
Speaker 2: Of course?
Speaker 1: Investigative? You massive? Thursday night game? Sorry, Friday night game?
Speaker 1: Get down at the cattery? Cats or lines? Are we
Speaker 1: thinking cats? For me?
Speaker 2: Cats?
Speaker 1: Just cats?
Speaker 3: And also g WS Skulker another Massy one Biggest Expansion Cup.
Speaker 1: I think Gold coasted a due for a win there.
Speaker 1: In fact, I think they're one of the teams that
Speaker 1: could threaten Lordo's only three can win.
Speaker 2: It, come from nowhere and never make a final series.
Speaker 2: They're not winning the flag accent.
Speaker 1: They probably can't win it, but i'd really like your
Speaker 1: prediction not to be right. Thanks for joining us on
Speaker 1: Footy classified. Remember Tom Morris hosting tomorrow night, no Idie Maguire,
Speaker 1: It's going to be a Ripper show. We'll see you
Speaker 1: next Monday, right here at the desk.