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Speaker 2: Hi, I'm Tom and I'm Elise Elliott.
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Speaker 2: Up with someone who insists Hawaiian shirts are actually fashionable.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Elliot Exchange.
Speaker 1: Hi there, Tom, Hello Elise.
Speaker 2: You've got an addition to your wardrobe today. It's very smart.
Speaker 2: It looks like stolen work merch.
Speaker 1: Well it's not stolen. It's been given to me. But
Speaker 1: Melbourne is often described as the land of the black
Speaker 1: puffer vest. And you know, once the temperature turns down
Speaker 1: as it has done today, it's freezing cold here Cerdenly
Speaker 1: everybody gets at their puffer.
Speaker 2: Vest because it's a transseasonal Well it's before you get
Speaker 2: into the north face full puffer jacket.
Speaker 1: Well, we don't wear north face anymore for reasons while
Speaker 1: I'll explain in a moment. But anyway, so, whether it's
Speaker 1: a vest or a jacket, in Melbourne, there's only one
Speaker 1: color black, you know, there's name ron or pink or yellow,
Speaker 1: you know, just you only wear a black one and
Speaker 1: everybody wears them and you can go, you know, outdoors,
Speaker 1: you might be doing something, walking the dog, whatever. Every
Speaker 1: single person will have one. It's a bit boring when
Speaker 1: you think about it. And for years now I have
Speaker 1: bemoaned the fact that I don't have a three aw vest.
Speaker 1: And I've been told by a certain person called Luca
Speaker 1: Ganano that you have to be a member of the
Speaker 1: football team to have one.
Speaker 2: How did you score well?
Speaker 1: These vests are for people who are at the ground,
Speaker 1: you know, they're doing a report from the boundary line.
Speaker 2: Or interviewing players, interviewing in.
Speaker 1: The rooms after the match. And he said, you can't
Speaker 1: have one. And finally someone has taken pity on me
Speaker 1: and said, here's a couple we have spear that no
Speaker 1: one else wants. Would you like one? And so I'm
Speaker 1: I'm just going to experiment with wearing a black puff vest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it. It sort of suits you. Not
Speaker 2: sure it goes with a pink Hawaiian shirt, but you
Speaker 2: know it would keep you a little torso toasty.
Speaker 1: It will it will. See. Now here's another thing about
Speaker 1: wearing a vest to keep warm. And the old days,
Speaker 1: you know, you wear like a woolen jumper with no sleeves,
Speaker 1: probably hand knitted by your mother or grandmother. In the cold,
Speaker 1: it's not your core that gets cold, it's your extremities.
Speaker 1: So gloves, socks, hat are the way to stay warm,
Speaker 1: not vest.
Speaker 2: Right, So it's a fashion thing started by Mark from
Speaker 2: Mork and Mindy.
Speaker 1: I am Mark from.
Speaker 2: Mark your mother having your greetings from the Cosmic Congress
Speaker 2: the Stellar Confederation. And Mindy is that a heavenly body.
Speaker 2: She must have something because I'd be willing to walk
Speaker 2: ten miles let's know what to stand in our garbage?
Speaker 1: Yes, he will. Well, I think Mindy as well. In fact,
Speaker 1: I remember in that era, about nineteen eighty, I had
Speaker 1: a ski jacket and you could you could zip off
Speaker 1: the sleeves. The problem was once I did zip them off,
Speaker 1: it was impossible to zip them back on again. I
Speaker 1: so it went from being a jacket which was quite useful,
Speaker 1: to a vest which I almost never wore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't mind. I don't mind a waistcoat on
Speaker 2: a man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the old three piece suit can work. And there
Speaker 1: are some elements of formal dress, particularly in the UK,
Speaker 1: like if you go to a day wedding where you
Speaker 1: wear a morning suit. So you have striped trousers. Usually
Speaker 1: you're black or more like a dark gray overcoat with tails.
Speaker 1: But you differentiate yourself from the other gentleman present. Why
Speaker 1: you can wear a different colored waistcoat and tie and
Speaker 1: that's how you express your individuality.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I'd like to see under that
Speaker 2: tom Perhaps a little cashmere turtleneck jumper.
Speaker 1: Used to go to various men's wear shops and you'd
Speaker 1: send me photos of Chino pants and cashmere Hope.
Speaker 2: It's called Hope.
Speaker 1: Oh this looks nice. What size are you? I just
Speaker 1: asked them to put it aside. You can go and
Speaker 1: try them on tomorrow.
Speaker 2: And I never did I know I accept it, except
Speaker 2: that this is your uniform for the rest of your life. However,
Speaker 2: I'm excited by the addition.
Speaker 1: Of a puffer vest. Just came back to is it
Speaker 1: north Face? Well, we don't wear the north Face brand
Speaker 1: because in the two years of lockdowns.
Speaker 2: Triggering, so triggering, and.
Speaker 1: Melbourne was the most lockdown city on Earth. Every day
Speaker 1: we had a government press conference. Right to go, everybody,
Speaker 1: right to go, guys, all right to go. And it
Speaker 1: was usually headed by our former deer leader and Premier
Speaker 1: Daniel Andrews and Daniel Andrews at about half of these
Speaker 1: press conferences started wearing a north Face vest, and those
Speaker 1: of us like me who did not like being locked
Speaker 1: up in our homes for twenty three hours a day, said,
Speaker 1: we will never buy a north Face thing again.
Speaker 2: It was disastrous for marketing for the brand.
Speaker 1: It wasn't their fault. He just bought it and he
Speaker 1: wore it, but that's the effect it had.
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Speaker 2: this week. Tom.
Speaker 1: There you have one from Wendy. Wendy says dear Tom, Elise.
Speaker 1: I'm a woman of a certain age. I shouldn't say
Speaker 1: what that is. I am recently divorced from my husband
Speaker 1: and now I have to get back into the dating game. However,
Speaker 1: my initial forays into this world suggests that it is very,
Speaker 1: very different to what it used to be. Do you
Speaker 1: have any suggestions.
Speaker 2: Oh, Wendy, goodness me. So dating online is a nightmare.
Speaker 2: According to a few friends of mine.
Speaker 1: Who are doing it, and they're just on this You
Speaker 1: do date yourself when you go wow dating online, you
Speaker 1: know that means it's been at least twenty years since
Speaker 1: you last went on a date.
Speaker 2: All right, right, correct, Well, fortunately it has been. But
Speaker 2: so a few issues in particular with men folk. They
Speaker 2: tend to overpromise under delivery in many many aspects.
Speaker 1: Of their life.
Speaker 2: Can just say, in particular height and age. So they
Speaker 2: openly lie about their age, but talking by shaving off
Speaker 2: a few little years here and there, which would be okay,
Speaker 2: we're talking jumping generations, like saying a fifty year old
Speaker 2: saying I'm forty one. That's a different generation. That's not
Speaker 2: great using old photos.
Speaker 1: Yes, just having said that, I'm guilty that I had
Speaker 1: looked at my Uh I looked at my LinkedIn profile
Speaker 1: the other day and I'm pretty sure the photos from
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, time to revamp.
Speaker 1: And I justify it by saying I don't actually know
Speaker 1: how to change it. I'll just leave it.
Speaker 2: Can't you pull the luddyite clause that it works every time?
Speaker 2: So under promise, over under promise, and over del correct always.
Speaker 2: So Another thing is the photos, the profile photos men
Speaker 2: tend to put up, the one where they're obviously cut
Speaker 2: out their wife, so a bit of their face is
Speaker 2: missing and it's just cropped a bit tight, and maybe
Speaker 2: the kids are out down here and the wife's out
Speaker 2: here here, so a bit of that holding a fish?
Speaker 2: Why why why not holding a fish over you in
Speaker 2: nether regions? No?
Speaker 1: No, what about you know a metaphor for well, it's
Speaker 1: not it's just saying it's a big fish and I'm
Speaker 1: going to hold it down here, And it says I'm active,
Speaker 1: I'm outdoorsy, I have my own hobbies. I might have
Speaker 1: just kissed the fish and then set it free. There
Speaker 1: is the thing I saw online once some woman said
Speaker 1: she contrasted photos of her husband with her and he's
Speaker 1: sort of got this smile, just this not very emotional.
Speaker 1: But when he's with a fish his face, he loves it.
Speaker 1: What about a picture of your car? Well, that work
Speaker 1: with me, right, But some women get a bit funny.
Speaker 2: But I prefer to see a car than the guy.
Speaker 1: So when the thing about the modern dating rules to
Speaker 1: the extent there are only rules people on multiple platforms,
Speaker 1: but it's not very monogamous the way it used to be.
Speaker 1: It's the opposite, and people go with the sort of
Speaker 1: quantity over quality.
Speaker 2: But also there's this whole lack of respect that words
Speaker 2: like bread crumbing Have you heard this.
Speaker 1: Found their way throughout the form.
Speaker 2: It just sort of give you a little sprinkles of
Speaker 2: just when you're losing interest or faith in the relationship,
Speaker 2: they'll they'll give you a little booty text in the
Speaker 2: middle of the night and make you feel a bit excited.
Speaker 2: And then you don't hear from them. So there's that,
Speaker 2: and then the shocker of all ghosting.
Speaker 1: Have you heard about this? You just cut off? Someone
Speaker 1: cut them off, You totally go.
Speaker 2: And usually this is after you've got a bit launchy
Speaker 2: with them, which is incredibly deflating. So these are it's
Speaker 2: a whole new world to navigate. And aren't you glad
Speaker 2: we're not there?
Speaker 1: No? I am, but but let's just say that I was.
Speaker 1: You know, you might boot me out in some.
Speaker 2: Stage hypothetically if you're dating.
Speaker 1: Okay, in real life, some lovely young ladies who work
Speaker 1: here and they bemoan the lack of men folk in
Speaker 1: their lives. It's because they work too hard, is the
Speaker 1: real answer.
Speaker 2: That sounds very reductive, relight.
Speaker 1: No, they don't have enough time. One of them works
Speaker 1: six days a week, and were's the time for a
Speaker 1: social life is you're getting up at five in the morning.
Speaker 1: You can't go a bit too late anyway, Hello Jesse,
Speaker 1: if you're listening. And so I've agreed, I'm going to
Speaker 1: take both of them to the football.
Speaker 2: I think this is the answer for Wendy. I think
Speaker 2: online you're on a hiding tonight. So I think, as
Speaker 2: the young folks say, I are real in real life.
Speaker 1: In real life, you've got.
Speaker 2: To meet someone in real life, and I think through friends.
Speaker 1: So one of the young ladies she's she wants to
Speaker 1: live in Tuac one day. It says for people into
Speaker 1: state are overseas very probably the most expensive suburb in Melbourne. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she wants a husband who's tall and it's a very
Speaker 1: good private school, like that.
Speaker 2: Meme where the girl wants I'm looking for a man
Speaker 2: and fine out trust nothing for a man in finance,
Speaker 2: trust fund six five blue eyes, you know, nice and specific.
Speaker 1: Well, one of the young ladies in question pretty much
Speaker 1: has these criteria and I said, right, well, let's you know,
Speaker 1: he's not just going to sort of turn up at
Speaker 1: your front door or magically appear at work, So why
Speaker 1: don't we go to the football. So I've picked Carlton
Speaker 1: versus Melbourne because Melbourne is a club of blue bloods.
Speaker 1: You know, like when when Melbourne people go to the football,
Speaker 1: they have a tartan rug cheese platter, a cheese platter
Speaker 1: with quince paste and crackers, you know, champagne. When they
Speaker 1: see good play they go like this good kick number
Speaker 1: five because they don't actually know the names of the players,
Speaker 1: and it has to be Carldo. Maybe no, because they
Speaker 1: don't really watch the game. I just feel like and
Speaker 1: they sit in the Melbourne Cricket club and anyway, so
Speaker 1: it's obviously a better class of person who barracks for Melbourne.
Speaker 1: It has to be Carlton because I'm not going to
Speaker 1: watch some other team that I don't care about. But
Speaker 1: it's very clear to me that the young lady in
Speaker 1: question a Melbourne supporter who's well bred and has manners.
Speaker 1: That's the sort of young man she wants to meet.
Speaker 2: Man it comes with a cheese platter over And.
Speaker 1: Here's the other thing. You have. Halftime is twenty minutes,
Speaker 1: so you have twenty minutes to go to the bar,
Speaker 1: speed date, have a drink, meet someone, talk to them,
Speaker 1: agree to meet again. At three quarter time or after
Speaker 1: the game.
Speaker 2: And that's our goal and then swap numbers that night.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm going to sort of referee things
Speaker 1: a bit him over here.
Speaker 2: When is this round?
Speaker 1: Well it's a few weeks away, but I might go
Speaker 1: up to the young men, But would you like to
Speaker 1: come and meet these two girls? And I'm just their
Speaker 1: friendly uncle.
Speaker 2: That's creepy. You're a facilitator, a facilitator, you're a matchmaker anyway.
Speaker 1: So we'll see how we go and to Wendy good
Speaker 1: luck or at least so at least. There was a
Speaker 1: very nasty incident at a shopping center in Melbourne last weekend.
Speaker 1: Two groups have used teenagers meant to have a fight
Speaker 1: at this Northland shopping center and some of them came
Speaker 1: armed with machetes. Now two of them have been arrested
Speaker 1: and they've been charged, and they're already out on bail
Speaker 1: for other alleged crimes they might have committed. And the
Speaker 1: premiere of Victoria has suddenly said, having said previously to me,
Speaker 1: actually we can't do anything about machetes until September, they said,
Speaker 1: you know what, we're going to ban them straight away,
Speaker 1: so that you won't be able to within twenty four
Speaker 1: hours by a new machete. Now what that'll do, I
Speaker 1: don't know. But suddenly the sale of machettes will be banned,
Speaker 1: which does make us think, well, what a what are
Speaker 1: other things we could ban for the social good?
Speaker 2: Right? Just back to the machete thing, though, why would
Speaker 2: you need one anyway unless you're cutting down cane fields.
Speaker 1: Well, there's bamboo and sugar cane, neither of which is
Speaker 1: very common where we are. But as I understand the
Speaker 1: problem is, if one part of one gang is going
Speaker 1: to turn up with a machete, then you have to
Speaker 1: have one too. It's like an arms race.
Speaker 2: Look, I used to hate living in the nanny state Victoria,
Speaker 2: but I've become a bit of a nanny the older
Speaker 2: I've got, and I'd like to see a few things banned. Tom.
Speaker 2: I know the use of e cigarettes is regulated in
Speaker 2: this state, and it's actually prohibited for those under eighteen,
Speaker 2: But I want vapes band, I reckon they're a pathetic scourge.
Speaker 1: Well see here's the thing. It's actually illegal to sell
Speaker 1: them unless they're a pharmacist, and most pharmacists don't want
Speaker 1: to sell them. These shops I see every day cheap
Speaker 1: smokes vapes, you know, flashing lights. And it's not like.
Speaker 2: They've just hand drawn the sign vapes. They've actually invested
Speaker 2: in a flashing light.
Speaker 1: So no one's getting in trouble for selling illegal.
Speaker 2: So that needs to go. Now, what about nangs, you've
Speaker 2: just come across this new scourge.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now nangs these have been man for a long time.
Speaker 1: I've only just discovered this. They were really like little
Speaker 1: little tubes, like a little metal cylinder of nitrous ox side.
Speaker 2: You see them flung all over the place.
Speaker 1: What do you do. In the old days, they were
Speaker 1: to make whipped cream. Nowadays that nitrosox side is laughing gas.
Speaker 1: And now they market these ones with you know, all
Speaker 1: sorts of from flavors. Clearly no one's making whipped cream
Speaker 1: with blueberry flavored or that much whipped cream, that much
Speaker 1: whipped cream.
Speaker 2: So explain they're used as a as a.
Speaker 1: A drug and the illegal because of the whipped cream angle.
Speaker 1: So we've got to ban that. And given the obesity right,
Speaker 1: we might as well ban whipped cream as well.
Speaker 2: Well. Then yeah, if you ban one, you may as
Speaker 2: well ban the other.
Speaker 1: Icon ban whipped cream with about clotted cream and custard
Speaker 1: and ice cream.
Speaker 2: Custard needs to go, doesn't it? The one in the
Speaker 2: carton can't be good.
Speaker 1: Growing up, I mean diet was somewhat monotonous growing up
Speaker 1: in the seventies. In the eighties, I reckon six out
Speaker 1: of seven nights a week, we would have grilled chops
Speaker 1: and sausages.
Speaker 2: Everyone had that with the boiled it was carrots and
Speaker 2: mashed potato was it was it broccoli or who knows
Speaker 2: what it was?
Speaker 1: Something green anyway, So something green, something ira tin fruit, tin.
Speaker 2: Fruit with ice cream if you were lucky, but usually
Speaker 2: cream or custard.
Speaker 1: Or custard, and the tin fruit was either peaches pears
Speaker 1: or apricots or peaches and pears.
Speaker 2: What about feeling exotic a bit of tin pineapple? Yes,
Speaker 2: that was must have been more expensive because we never had.
Speaker 1: That, perhaps on a holiday in Queensland. So I don't
Speaker 1: even know why I'm saying that, but probably all those
Speaker 1: food stufts could be banned.
Speaker 2: Yeah maybe tin I don't say that grew all our farmers.
Speaker 2: That's a bit mad.
Speaker 1: Now we need to eat more tin fruit, there's no
Speaker 1: doubt about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but definitely Machete's gone, Vates gone names. See
Speaker 2: you later, Tom. You and I are firmly of gen X.
Speaker 2: It's those born between nineteen sixty five and nineteen eighty
Speaker 2: not dating us now. For a long time we were
Speaker 2: seen as the cool generation. Millennials were feuding with baby boomers.
Speaker 2: Millennials were feuding with gen Z. They all hate each
Speaker 2: other's guts, and you know, gen X was seen as
Speaker 2: kind of cool in the middle. Here. Now in the Economist,
Speaker 2: it's come out that we are generation loser. Can you
Speaker 2: believe it?
Speaker 1: Loser?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So gen Z born between ninety seven and twenty twelve.
Speaker 2: You know, they went on social media's ruined our life.
Speaker 2: Millennials born between eighty one and ninety six complaining can't
Speaker 2: buy a house because the baby boomers brought them all up.
Speaker 2: The baby boomers born between forty six and sixty four
Speaker 2: go on and on about the fact they face an
Speaker 2: uncertain retirement. But they're now saying gen X is the
Speaker 2: real loser because for a few reasons. One it's called
Speaker 2: the U bend of life theory, which has some economic background,
Speaker 2: which is you're intensely happy as a young person, then
Speaker 2: you reach this sort of deep depression in the middle,
Speaker 2: and then you're happy when you're older. So gen X
Speaker 2: is firmly in the bowels of the U at the
Speaker 2: moment where we haven't quite recovered when we should have
Speaker 2: been making money from the two thousand and eight crash.
Speaker 1: Which Global financial crisis, Yes, the GFC, that one.
Speaker 2: We're still sort of we're still triggered by that. We
Speaker 2: are what's called the Sandwich generation. We are looking after
Speaker 2: young kids and teens plus aging parents. And then that
Speaker 2: realization this is it. This is as good as my
Speaker 2: body will be, my face will be, my career will be,
Speaker 2: my relationship will be.
Speaker 1: Is this it? Well, I think that's overstating the bad things.
Speaker 1: I mean, as far as financial crashes go. I had
Speaker 1: a job in nineteen eighty seven and I was on
Speaker 1: the trading floor of the Stock Exchange, just like Gordon
Speaker 1: of a crash back there, and that taught me a
Speaker 1: less In fact, a few weeks later I noticed that
Speaker 1: quite a few of my colleagues were disappearing in the
Speaker 1: sense of being sacked. And I quite liked my job
Speaker 1: when I was getting ten dollars an hour, which at
Speaker 1: the time was not bad money. And I said to
Speaker 1: my boss I said, oh, am, I going to lose
Speaker 1: my job, and he said, well, we don't really pay
Speaker 1: you enough for it to make any difference.
Speaker 2: You were thoroughly under the radar.
Speaker 1: So you're probably okay.
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you, like in American Psycho, did
Speaker 2: you have an embossed card?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yes, did you tell me? Well nine, I sort
Speaker 1: of got serious about work.
Speaker 2: You were paying more than ten dollars an hour at
Speaker 2: this point.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It was twelve fifty Canadian. I was living in Canada, Toronto,
Speaker 1: and we sort of all wore tailored suits and its pinstriped,
Speaker 1: double breasted as it was back then. Gel on the hair,
Speaker 1: gel on the hair, you know, obviously kill people in
Speaker 1: the evening. I didn't do that, but everybody got business cards,
Speaker 1: and there was a sort of thing about look at
Speaker 1: my business card. I've gone, the embossed font I've gone, you.
Speaker 2: Know, the match or the raised.
Speaker 1: A ray cell phone number on the back.
Speaker 2: Minds textule to cell phone, new card? What do you
Speaker 2: think that's boom? And the lettering is something called silly
Speaker 2: and real and.
Speaker 1: So some of the things in the American Psycho to
Speaker 1: me seemed very familiar. Having said that, I didn't have
Speaker 1: an axe, and I didn't have a sort of sea
Speaker 1: through raincoat. I used to clean listen.
Speaker 2: To hearing Lewis and the news.
Speaker 1: Well, we did listen a bit to that. So I
Speaker 1: think I think our generation, though, has a lot going
Speaker 1: for it, Like we know how to handle financial tough times,
Speaker 1: correct eighty seven crash, the recession of the early nineties,
Speaker 1: the two thousand and seven of two thousand and nine
Speaker 1: global financial crisis, and quite a few other things. We
Speaker 1: invented the Internet pretty much, and the mobile phone and
Speaker 1: all the good music, but we.
Speaker 2: Learn how to do without it. So for us it's
Speaker 2: a bonus. We're not relying on it. Well, we sort
Speaker 2: of are these caller music call it.
Speaker 1: Fashion, Nirvana and Ride and the Jesus and Mary Chain
Speaker 1: and Primal Screen, get your.
Speaker 2: Start a call and then you've got rid of it.
Speaker 1: Sure. Well, well this is the thing though, because you
Speaker 1: still have this distinction between Indian music and conventional music.
Speaker 1: Back then, movies, POLP fiction, Saving Private Ryan. Someday we
Speaker 1: might look back on this and just saying that seven
Speaker 1: Private Ryan was the one decent thing we were able
Speaker 1: to pull out of this Hall Goss and some other
Speaker 1: words and also that the lack of fashion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny in the nineties thinking there's no definitive
Speaker 2: ninety style, but you can never see it when you're
Speaker 2: in it.
Speaker 1: No, that's true, although in the eighties I could see it,
Speaker 1: and in the seventies now that I think about it,
Speaker 1: with the flares and the valure jumpers. But that's the
Speaker 1: thing for another time. So I actually think, notwithstanding that
Speaker 1: the Economist has branded us the loser generation, that we
Speaker 1: were a pretty good one.
Speaker 2: So we're the winners.
Speaker 1: Well we are because at the start, as we became teenagers,
Speaker 1: technology suddenly started to really make a change to people's lives.
Speaker 1: You grew up in the seventies, it wasn't that different
Speaker 1: from the fifties for exam technologically speaking, but by the
Speaker 1: eighties and nineties something video games, mobile phones, the Internet.
Speaker 1: I saw my first email in nineteen ninety and I
Speaker 1: thought this will never catch on.
Speaker 2: I got a hot mail account in the nineteen nineties
Speaker 2: and I still have it to be stay my main nab.
Speaker 2: But look, I think why we're the winners is we
Speaker 2: were kids in the sort of around the seventies, which
Speaker 2: was so bloody fun. How we survived. I will never know,
Speaker 2: but just honing around ons in the you know, the backstreets.
Speaker 1: Come home when it's dark, come home when it's start, will.
Speaker 2: Come home for tea tea, which you mentioned earlier that
Speaker 2: was great. Being a teenager in the eighties was wild,
Speaker 2: so fabulous, and then kind of being a faux adult,
Speaker 2: you know, in the nineties was kind of cool. So I,
Speaker 2: you know what stuff the economos, I think we would,
Speaker 2: I think we.
Speaker 1: And the young people they're no good. They're also angst
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, Like going back to what we were
Speaker 1: talking about before, about day thy want to just have
Speaker 1: a dinner party, invite people over.
Speaker 2: No one has dinner, but I don't do it anymore.
Speaker 2: Maybe we should bring back the dinner party. Oh Tom,
Speaker 2: so much to discuss. I could keep talking for ages
Speaker 2: about how Ace I just dated myself. Jen X truly
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