WEBVTT - Tom's dating advice 0:00:02.279 --> 0:00:05.359 Nine podcasts. 0:00:06.640 --> 0:00:09.320 Hi, I'm Tom and I'm Elise Elliott. 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:11.640 Now you may know me from the radio, but you 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:15.360 don't know him like I do. Welcome to the Elliot Exchange, 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:18.320 our podcast where we talk about the quirks of marriage, parenting, 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:19.520 and putting. 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:23.120 Up with someone who insists Hawaiian shirts are actually fashionable. 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:27.720 Welcome back to the Elliot Exchange. 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:29.160 Hi there, Tom, Hello Elise. 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:32.599 You've got an addition to your wardrobe today. It's very smart. 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:34.880 It looks like stolen work merch. 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:38.239 Well it's not stolen. It's been given to me. But 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:42.920 Melbourne is often described as the land of the black 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:47.120 puffer vest. And you know, once the temperature turns down 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:50.240 as it has done today, it's freezing cold here Cerdenly 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:51.960 everybody gets at their puffer. 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:55.840 Vest because it's a transseasonal Well it's before you get 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:58.160 into the north face full puffer jacket. 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:00.760 Well, we don't wear north face anymore for reasons while 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:05.600 I'll explain in a moment. But anyway, so, whether it's 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:07.920 a vest or a jacket, in Melbourne, there's only one 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:11.279 color black, you know, there's name ron or pink or yellow, 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:13.520 you know, just you only wear a black one and 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:16.480 everybody wears them and you can go, you know, outdoors, 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:18.720 you might be doing something, walking the dog, whatever. Every 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:20.759 single person will have one. It's a bit boring when 0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:23.640 you think about it. And for years now I have 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:27.280 bemoaned the fact that I don't have a three aw vest. 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:31.000 And I've been told by a certain person called Luca 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:33.800 Ganano that you have to be a member of the 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:35.160 football team to have one. 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:37.039 How did you score well? 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:39.800 These vests are for people who are at the ground, 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:42.960 you know, they're doing a report from the boundary line. 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:45.240 Or interviewing players, interviewing in. 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:48.240 The rooms after the match. And he said, you can't 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:51.960 have one. And finally someone has taken pity on me 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:54.720 and said, here's a couple we have spear that no 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:57.720 one else wants. Would you like one? And so I'm 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:00.440 I'm just going to experiment with wearing a black puff vest. 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:02.440 Yeah, I like it. It sort of suits you. Not 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:04.480 sure it goes with a pink Hawaiian shirt, but you 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:07.080 know it would keep you a little torso toasty. 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:10.480 It will it will. See. Now here's another thing about 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:13.200 wearing a vest to keep warm. And the old days, 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:15.520 you know, you wear like a woolen jumper with no sleeves, 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:19.200 probably hand knitted by your mother or grandmother. In the cold, 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:22.760 it's not your core that gets cold, it's your extremities. 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:27.280 So gloves, socks, hat are the way to stay warm, 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:27.919 not vest. 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:30.680 Right, So it's a fashion thing started by Mark from 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:31.440 Mork and Mindy. 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:32.800 I am Mark from. 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:39.600 Mark your mother having your greetings from the Cosmic Congress 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:42.840 the Stellar Confederation. And Mindy is that a heavenly body. 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:44.720 She must have something because I'd be willing to walk 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:46.520 ten miles let's know what to stand in our garbage? 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:50.040 Yes, he will. Well, I think Mindy as well. In fact, 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:53.120 I remember in that era, about nineteen eighty, I had 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:55.359 a ski jacket and you could you could zip off 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:57.760 the sleeves. The problem was once I did zip them off, 0:02:57.760 --> 0:02:59.600 it was impossible to zip them back on again. I 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:02.840 so it went from being a jacket which was quite useful, 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:04.560 to a vest which I almost never wore. 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:07.480 Yeah, I don't mind. I don't mind a waistcoat on 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:07.839 a man. 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:11.680 Yeah, the old three piece suit can work. And there 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:15.040 are some elements of formal dress, particularly in the UK, 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:17.640 like if you go to a day wedding where you 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:21.120 wear a morning suit. So you have striped trousers. Usually 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:24.840 you're black or more like a dark gray overcoat with tails. 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:28.320 But you differentiate yourself from the other gentleman present. Why 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:30.920 you can wear a different colored waistcoat and tie and 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:33.600 that's how you express your individuality. 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:35.160 Do you know what I'd like to see under that 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:38.760 tom Perhaps a little cashmere turtleneck jumper. 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:43.920 Used to go to various men's wear shops and you'd 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:49.080 send me photos of Chino pants and cashmere Hope. 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:49.960 It's called Hope. 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:53.240 Oh this looks nice. What size are you? I just 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:54.880 asked them to put it aside. You can go and 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:55.960 try them on tomorrow. 0:03:56.520 --> 0:04:00.000 And I never did I know I accept it, except 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:02.800 that this is your uniform for the rest of your life. However, 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:05.240 I'm excited by the addition. 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:07.680 Of a puffer vest. Just came back to is it 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:11.280 north Face? Well, we don't wear the north Face brand 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:14.640 because in the two years of lockdowns. 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:17.000 Triggering, so triggering, and. 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:20.120 Melbourne was the most lockdown city on Earth. Every day 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:23.880 we had a government press conference. Right to go, everybody, 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:26.320 right to go, guys, all right to go. And it 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:29.719 was usually headed by our former deer leader and Premier 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:32.960 Daniel Andrews and Daniel Andrews at about half of these 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:36.479 press conferences started wearing a north Face vest, and those 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:38.600 of us like me who did not like being locked 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:42.200 up in our homes for twenty three hours a day, said, 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:44.279 we will never buy a north Face thing again. 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:46.560 It was disastrous for marketing for the brand. 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:48.880 It wasn't their fault. He just bought it and he 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:50.800 wore it, but that's the effect it had. 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:54.440 Now, we love your emails here on the Elliott Exchange, 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:57.160 and don't forget to send them in Elliott Exchange at 0:04:57.240 --> 0:04:59.320 nine dot com dot A you we've got a ripper 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:00.000 this week. Tom. 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:03.159 There you have one from Wendy. Wendy says dear Tom, Elise. 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:06.520 I'm a woman of a certain age. I shouldn't say 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:09.480 what that is. I am recently divorced from my husband 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:13.080 and now I have to get back into the dating game. However, 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:18.120 my initial forays into this world suggests that it is very, 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:21.600 very different to what it used to be. Do you 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:24.159 have any suggestions. 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:29.080 Oh, Wendy, goodness me. So dating online is a nightmare. 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:31.120 According to a few friends of mine. 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:32.760 Who are doing it, and they're just on this You 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:36.920 do date yourself when you go wow dating online, you 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:39.200 know that means it's been at least twenty years since 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:40.320 you last went on a date. 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:43.120 All right, right, correct, Well, fortunately it has been. But 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:47.200 so a few issues in particular with men folk. They 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:53.120 tend to overpromise under delivery in many many aspects. 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:53.520 Of their life. 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:57.760 Can just say, in particular height and age. So they 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:02.040 openly lie about their age, but talking by shaving off 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:05.159 a few little years here and there, which would be okay, 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:10.279 we're talking jumping generations, like saying a fifty year old 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:14.080 saying I'm forty one. That's a different generation. That's not 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:17.080 great using old photos. 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:20.480 Yes, just having said that, I'm guilty that I had 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:23.159 looked at my Uh I looked at my LinkedIn profile 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:26.359 the other day and I'm pretty sure the photos from 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:29.000 two thousand and seven. 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:31.080 Yeah, time to revamp. 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:33.560 And I justify it by saying I don't actually know 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:35.279 how to change it. I'll just leave it. 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:38.680 Can't you pull the luddyite clause that it works every time? 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:43.400 So under promise, over under promise, and over del correct always. 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:47.640 So Another thing is the photos, the profile photos men 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:51.120 tend to put up, the one where they're obviously cut 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:53.240 out their wife, so a bit of their face is 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:57.160 missing and it's just cropped a bit tight, and maybe 0:06:57.200 --> 0:06:59.880 the kids are out down here and the wife's out 0:06:59.920 --> 0:07:02.440 here here, so a bit of that holding a fish? 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:06.880 Why why why not holding a fish over you in 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:09.440 nether regions? No? 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:13.080 No, what about you know a metaphor for well, it's 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:15.320 not it's just saying it's a big fish and I'm 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:18.240 going to hold it down here, And it says I'm active, 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:23.160 I'm outdoorsy, I have my own hobbies. I might have 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:26.520 just kissed the fish and then set it free. There 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:28.880 is the thing I saw online once some woman said 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:31.680 she contrasted photos of her husband with her and he's 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:35.200 sort of got this smile, just this not very emotional. 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:39.600 But when he's with a fish his face, he loves it. 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:43.040 What about a picture of your car? Well, that work 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:45.239 with me, right, But some women get a bit funny. 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:47.000 But I prefer to see a car than the guy. 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:50.760 So when the thing about the modern dating rules to 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:53.960 the extent there are only rules people on multiple platforms, 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:57.320 but it's not very monogamous the way it used to be. 0:07:57.560 --> 0:08:00.800 It's the opposite, and people go with the sort of 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:02.400 quantity over quality. 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:05.480 But also there's this whole lack of respect that words 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:07.520 like bread crumbing Have you heard this. 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:11.520 Found their way throughout the form. 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:13.320 It just sort of give you a little sprinkles of 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:15.800 just when you're losing interest or faith in the relationship, 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:18.800 they'll they'll give you a little booty text in the 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:21.120 middle of the night and make you feel a bit excited. 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:22.960 And then you don't hear from them. So there's that, 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:26.080 and then the shocker of all ghosting. 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:28.480 Have you heard about this? You just cut off? Someone 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:30.120 cut them off, You totally go. 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:32.960 And usually this is after you've got a bit launchy 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:37.960 with them, which is incredibly deflating. So these are it's 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:41.600 a whole new world to navigate. And aren't you glad 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:42.200 we're not there? 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:45.760 No? I am, but but let's just say that I was. 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:47.760 You know, you might boot me out in some. 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:50.560 Stage hypothetically if you're dating. 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:53.760 Okay, in real life, some lovely young ladies who work 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:56.440 here and they bemoan the lack of men folk in 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:59.080 their lives. It's because they work too hard, is the 0:08:59.120 --> 0:08:59.720 real answer. 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:02.440 That sounds very reductive, relight. 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:05.240 No, they don't have enough time. One of them works 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:07.360 six days a week, and were's the time for a 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:09.160 social life is you're getting up at five in the morning. 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:12.280 You can't go a bit too late anyway, Hello Jesse, 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:15.960 if you're listening. And so I've agreed, I'm going to 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:17.280 take both of them to the football. 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:20.320 I think this is the answer for Wendy. I think 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:24.160 online you're on a hiding tonight. So I think, as 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:27.320 the young folks say, I are real in real life. 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:28.200 In real life, you've got. 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:31.160 To meet someone in real life, and I think through friends. 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:34.520 So one of the young ladies she's she wants to 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:36.600 live in Tuac one day. It says for people into 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:40.600 state are overseas very probably the most expensive suburb in Melbourne. Yeah, 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:43.200 she wants a husband who's tall and it's a very 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:44.679 good private school, like that. 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:47.679 Meme where the girl wants I'm looking for a man 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:53.160 and fine out trust nothing for a man in finance, 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:58.280 trust fund six five blue eyes, you know, nice and specific. 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:00.560 Well, one of the young ladies in question pretty much 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:04.280 has these criteria and I said, right, well, let's you know, 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:05.920 he's not just going to sort of turn up at 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:09.600 your front door or magically appear at work, So why 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:11.840 don't we go to the football. So I've picked Carlton 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:16.000 versus Melbourne because Melbourne is a club of blue bloods. 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:18.720 You know, like when when Melbourne people go to the football, 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:21.600 they have a tartan rug cheese platter, a cheese platter 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:26.240 with quince paste and crackers, you know, champagne. When they 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:30.600 see good play they go like this good kick number 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:32.800 five because they don't actually know the names of the players, 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:37.000 and it has to be Carldo. Maybe no, because they 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:38.840 don't really watch the game. I just feel like and 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:41.360 they sit in the Melbourne Cricket club and anyway, so 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:44.599 it's obviously a better class of person who barracks for Melbourne. 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:46.480 It has to be Carlton because I'm not going to 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:48.960 watch some other team that I don't care about. But 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:51.400 it's very clear to me that the young lady in 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:55.200 question a Melbourne supporter who's well bred and has manners. 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:57.560 That's the sort of young man she wants to meet. 0:10:57.679 --> 0:11:00.160 Man it comes with a cheese platter over And. 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:03.080 Here's the other thing. You have. Halftime is twenty minutes, 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:06.240 so you have twenty minutes to go to the bar, 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:09.800 speed date, have a drink, meet someone, talk to them, 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:12.400 agree to meet again. At three quarter time or after 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:13.119 the game. 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:16.559 And that's our goal and then swap numbers that night. 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:18.560 I don't know, I'm going to sort of referee things 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:19.960 a bit him over here. 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:21.000 When is this round? 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:23.560 Well it's a few weeks away, but I might go 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:25.280 up to the young men, But would you like to 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:27.360 come and meet these two girls? And I'm just their 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:28.200 friendly uncle. 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:32.840 That's creepy. You're a facilitator, a facilitator, you're a matchmaker anyway. 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:35.280 So we'll see how we go and to Wendy good 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:47.760 luck or at least so at least. There was a 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:51.680 very nasty incident at a shopping center in Melbourne last weekend. 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:56.000 Two groups have used teenagers meant to have a fight 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:59.400 at this Northland shopping center and some of them came 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:02.439 armed with machetes. Now two of them have been arrested 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:05.120 and they've been charged, and they're already out on bail 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:08.200 for other alleged crimes they might have committed. And the 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:11.760 premiere of Victoria has suddenly said, having said previously to me, 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:16.080 actually we can't do anything about machetes until September, they said, 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:17.880 you know what, we're going to ban them straight away, 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:20.839 so that you won't be able to within twenty four 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:23.040 hours by a new machete. Now what that'll do, I 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:26.640 don't know. But suddenly the sale of machettes will be banned, 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:29.640 which does make us think, well, what a what are 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:32.800 other things we could ban for the social good? 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:35.760 Right? Just back to the machete thing, though, why would 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:39.840 you need one anyway unless you're cutting down cane fields. 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:45.319 Well, there's bamboo and sugar cane, neither of which is 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:49.640 very common where we are. But as I understand the 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:52.080 problem is, if one part of one gang is going 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:55.360 to turn up with a machete, then you have to 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:56.960 have one too. It's like an arms race. 0:12:57.280 --> 0:12:59.840 Look, I used to hate living in the nanny state Victoria, 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:02.040 but I've become a bit of a nanny the older 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:04.199 I've got, and I'd like to see a few things banned. Tom. 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:07.360 I know the use of e cigarettes is regulated in 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:11.760 this state, and it's actually prohibited for those under eighteen, 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:15.319 But I want vapes band, I reckon they're a pathetic scourge. 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:18.040 Well see here's the thing. It's actually illegal to sell 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:20.400 them unless they're a pharmacist, and most pharmacists don't want 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:23.319 to sell them. These shops I see every day cheap 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:26.160 smokes vapes, you know, flashing lights. And it's not like. 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:28.760 They've just hand drawn the sign vapes. They've actually invested 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:29.679 in a flashing light. 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:32.479 So no one's getting in trouble for selling illegal. 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:34.640 So that needs to go. Now, what about nangs, you've 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:38.320 just come across this new scourge. 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:41.319 Yeah, now nangs these have been man for a long time. 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:45.400 I've only just discovered this. They were really like little 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:48.920 little tubes, like a little metal cylinder of nitrous ox side. 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:50.720 You see them flung all over the place. 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:52.679 What do you do. In the old days, they were 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:57.000 to make whipped cream. Nowadays that nitrosox side is laughing gas. 0:13:57.000 --> 0:13:59.520 And now they market these ones with you know, all 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:02.320 sorts of from flavors. Clearly no one's making whipped cream 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:05.120 with blueberry flavored or that much whipped cream, that much 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:05.720 whipped cream. 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:09.120 So explain they're used as a as a. 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:12.680 A drug and the illegal because of the whipped cream angle. 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:15.600 So we've got to ban that. And given the obesity right, 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:17.360 we might as well ban whipped cream as well. 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:21.280 Well. Then yeah, if you ban one, you may as 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:21.840 well ban the other. 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:25.560 Icon ban whipped cream with about clotted cream and custard 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:26.760 and ice cream. 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:28.960 Custard needs to go, doesn't it? The one in the 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:30.200 carton can't be good. 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:34.520 Growing up, I mean diet was somewhat monotonous growing up 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:37.680 in the seventies. In the eighties, I reckon six out 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:41.160 of seven nights a week, we would have grilled chops 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:41.800 and sausages. 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:45.880 Everyone had that with the boiled it was carrots and 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:51.360 mashed potato was it was it broccoli or who knows 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:51.880 what it was? 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:56.320 Something green anyway, So something green, something ira tin fruit, tin. 0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:59.160 Fruit with ice cream if you were lucky, but usually 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:01.720 cream or custard. 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:05.880 Or custard, and the tin fruit was either peaches pears 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:08.200 or apricots or peaches and pears. 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:13.240 What about feeling exotic a bit of tin pineapple? Yes, 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:15.520 that was must have been more expensive because we never had. 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:19.520 That, perhaps on a holiday in Queensland. So I don't 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:21.360 even know why I'm saying that, but probably all those 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:22.600 food stufts could be banned. 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:26.200 Yeah maybe tin I don't say that grew all our farmers. 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:26.760 That's a bit mad. 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:28.360 Now we need to eat more tin fruit, there's no 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:28.920 doubt about it. 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:34.040 Yeah, yeah, but definitely Machete's gone, Vates gone names. See 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:38.800 you later, Tom. You and I are firmly of gen X. 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:42.760 It's those born between nineteen sixty five and nineteen eighty 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:45.080 not dating us now. For a long time we were 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:49.400 seen as the cool generation. Millennials were feuding with baby boomers. 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:52.920 Millennials were feuding with gen Z. They all hate each 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:55.120 other's guts, and you know, gen X was seen as 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:58.680 kind of cool in the middle. Here. Now in the Economist, 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:02.600 it's come out that we are generation loser. Can you 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:03.080 believe it? 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:03.600 Loser? 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:07.040 Yeah, So gen Z born between ninety seven and twenty twelve. 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:10.040 You know, they went on social media's ruined our life. 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:13.640 Millennials born between eighty one and ninety six complaining can't 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:16.280 buy a house because the baby boomers brought them all up. 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:19.480 The baby boomers born between forty six and sixty four 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:21.920 go on and on about the fact they face an 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:25.000 uncertain retirement. But they're now saying gen X is the 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:28.960 real loser because for a few reasons. One it's called 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:33.560 the U bend of life theory, which has some economic background, 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:36.520 which is you're intensely happy as a young person, then 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:38.960 you reach this sort of deep depression in the middle, 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:41.440 and then you're happy when you're older. So gen X 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:44.200 is firmly in the bowels of the U at the 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:47.640 moment where we haven't quite recovered when we should have 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:51.000 been making money from the two thousand and eight crash. 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:54.560 Which Global financial crisis, Yes, the GFC, that one. 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:58.120 We're still sort of we're still triggered by that. We 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:01.200 are what's called the Sandwich generation. We are looking after 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:05.760 young kids and teens plus aging parents. And then that 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:10.879 realization this is it. This is as good as my 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:13.800 body will be, my face will be, my career will be, 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:15.119 my relationship will be. 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:20.439 Is this it? Well, I think that's overstating the bad things. 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:23.960 I mean, as far as financial crashes go. I had 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:25.639 a job in nineteen eighty seven and I was on 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:28.639 the trading floor of the Stock Exchange, just like Gordon 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:30.720 of a crash back there, and that taught me a 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:32.640 less In fact, a few weeks later I noticed that 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:35.600 quite a few of my colleagues were disappearing in the 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:38.160 sense of being sacked. And I quite liked my job 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:39.919 when I was getting ten dollars an hour, which at 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:42.399 the time was not bad money. And I said to 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:44.120 my boss I said, oh, am, I going to lose 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:47.000 my job, and he said, well, we don't really pay 0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:48.880 you enough for it to make any difference. 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:51.000 You were thoroughly under the radar. 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:52.040 So you're probably okay. 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:55.680 I wanted to ask you, like in American Psycho, did 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:57.439 you have an embossed card? 0:17:57.560 --> 0:18:01.760 Oh? Yes, did you tell me? Well nine, I sort 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:03.720 of got serious about work. 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:05.560 You were paying more than ten dollars an hour at 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:05.920 this point. 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:09.040 Yeah. It was twelve fifty Canadian. I was living in Canada, Toronto, 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:14.600 and we sort of all wore tailored suits and its pinstriped, 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:18.600 double breasted as it was back then. Gel on the hair, 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:21.399 gel on the hair, you know, obviously kill people in 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:25.639 the evening. I didn't do that, but everybody got business cards, 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:27.560 and there was a sort of thing about look at 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:30.359 my business card. I've gone, the embossed font I've gone, you. 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:33.000 Know, the match or the raised. 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:35.040 A ray cell phone number on the back. 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:39.480 Minds textule to cell phone, new card? What do you 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:43.520 think that's boom? And the lettering is something called silly 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:44.600 and real and. 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:47.119 So some of the things in the American Psycho to 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:49.359 me seemed very familiar. Having said that, I didn't have 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:51.560 an axe, and I didn't have a sort of sea 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:53.720 through raincoat. I used to clean listen. 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:55.000 To hearing Lewis and the news. 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:57.399 Well, we did listen a bit to that. So I 0:18:57.400 --> 0:18:59.680 think I think our generation, though, has a lot going 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:02.919 for it, Like we know how to handle financial tough times, 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:06.399 correct eighty seven crash, the recession of the early nineties, 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:09.480 the two thousand and seven of two thousand and nine 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:12.760 global financial crisis, and quite a few other things. We 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:16.639 invented the Internet pretty much, and the mobile phone and 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:17.920 all the good music, but we. 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:20.320 Learn how to do without it. So for us it's 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:22.720 a bonus. We're not relying on it. Well, we sort 0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:24.680 of are these caller music call it. 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:27.800