WEBVTT - Weekends with Luke Grant - Saturday 14 June

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<v Speaker 1>Whoa across Australia. This is Weekends with Luke Grant. But

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta keep your head up.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's your hand up. You gotta keep your head up.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you collects your hand up. I know it's hard, no,

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<v Speaker 2>it's hard to remember sometimes, but you gotta keep your

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<v Speaker 2>head up.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks, golects your hand up.

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<v Speaker 3>Good morning, Welcome to Weekends with Luke Grant. Great to

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<v Speaker 3>be with you on t GB in Sydney, four BC

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<v Speaker 3>in Brisbane and listeners on the app joining us all

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<v Speaker 3>around Australia. June fourteen today Saturday morning, and the greatest

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<v Speaker 3>country on Earth. What a bitterly cold week it's been,

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<v Speaker 3>certainly where I've been on the coast around Sydney, and

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<v Speaker 3>I noted a couple of days back Mount Isa. The

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<v Speaker 3>ISA in northwest Queensland recorded it's cold as June nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>forty four years after temperatures plunged to minus zero point seven.

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<v Speaker 3>Further eastern Queensland and Richmond a minimum temp of minus

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<v Speaker 3>zero point one, the first sub zero nighte in thirteen years.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh boy, okay on the Darling Downs reached the low

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<v Speaker 3>of minus four point two. It's winter now. In Brisbane,

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<v Speaker 3>the ABC reported that Yesterday, temperatures reached record breaking lows

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<v Speaker 3>in the southeast of the state, the Mercury dropping five

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<v Speaker 3>to eight degrees below average. Brisbane CBD worked towards coldest

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<v Speaker 3>June morning since two thousand and two. My god, twenty

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<v Speaker 3>three years. It was just five point two degrees in Sydney,

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<v Speaker 3>just a week or so back, the coldest temps recorded

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<v Speaker 3>at nine am, Sydney's air temperature reaching ten point four

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<v Speaker 3>harrond or feels like temperature of five point three. We

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<v Speaker 3>shouldn't be scared about this. It's the weather and it's winter.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, this is just the first half for the

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<v Speaker 3>first month of winter. I guess we take comfort from

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<v Speaker 3>the predicted mild winter ahead, do we? Speaking of temperatures

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<v Speaker 3>in the weather in Sydney, a partly cloudy day with

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<v Speaker 3>a medium chance of showers. They'll become less likely late

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<v Speaker 3>this afternoon and tonight in the city seventeen Penrith, eighteen Paramatta,

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<v Speaker 3>seventeen Bondai and along the coast seventeen Tomorrow and Sydney

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<v Speaker 3>party cloudy, slight chance of a shower and a top

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<v Speaker 3>of eighteen degrees. Brisbane today mostly sunny, top tempts in

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<v Speaker 3>the City twenty one, Airport twenty Ipswich twenty one, the

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<v Speaker 3>Sunny Coast twenty Gold Coast twenty one tomorrow and Brisbane

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<v Speaker 3>Sunny in twenty two. You win now so much to

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<v Speaker 3>tell you about today, What a week it's been on

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<v Speaker 3>planet Earth. Firstly, I can tell you that Iranian ballistic

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<v Speaker 3>missiles struck at least seven sites around Tel Aviv last night,

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<v Speaker 3>injuring at least twenty two people, according to Israeli mis

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<v Speaker 3>military officials and firefighters. Video from Tel Aviv showed at

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<v Speaker 3>least one large explosion on the ground from an apparent

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<v Speaker 3>missile strike and at least one building on fire. Explosions

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<v Speaker 3>were also heard over Jerusalem as missiles streaked overhead part

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<v Speaker 3>of Iran's retaliatory campaign after waves of Israeli strikes the

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<v Speaker 3>devastated Tehran's military chaine of command and it critical nuclear facilities.

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<v Speaker 3>A dozens were killed in Iran more than three hundred

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<v Speaker 3>others injured, according to unofficial figures cited by the Fars

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<v Speaker 3>news agency, which is affiliated with the Revolutionary Guards. Now

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<v Speaker 3>fascinatingly and on a large extent, concerningly, Sophie Ellsworth from

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<v Speaker 3>News Corps says desperate Australians trying to flee Israel have

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<v Speaker 3>lashed out of the Australian Embassy, furious that it's closed

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<v Speaker 3>while the country under attack, and say they've been provided

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<v Speaker 3>with no plans to try to bring them home as

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<v Speaker 3>Iran launched hundreds of ballistic missiles. A cohort of Assis

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<v Speaker 3>remain trapped in the war torn region trying to get

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<v Speaker 3>assistance to come home. Now. Among those in Israel a

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<v Speaker 3>former Olympian Nova Peris who's bunkered down in Jerusalem, she says,

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<v Speaker 3>and was due to take part in a reception by

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<v Speaker 3>the Israel Australia, New Zealand and Oceania Chamber of Commerce

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<v Speaker 3>on Sunday in Tel Aviv. Now, the Department of Foreign

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<v Speaker 3>Affairs and Trade Defacts say there's between ten and twelve

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<v Speaker 3>thousand Australians living in Israel. There's also an Australian cohort

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<v Speaker 3>of political representatives hosted by the Israeli Embassy in camera.

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<v Speaker 3>They've been in the Middle East for the past week.

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<v Speaker 3>They're also bunkered down in bomb shelters and safe rooms

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<v Speaker 3>across Israel, and she says former Sid the radio host

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<v Speaker 3>erin Molin, is among the Australians in Israel unable to

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<v Speaker 3>come home, and said she quite tried to register with

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<v Speaker 3>the embassy this morning and they wouldn't take our names. Unquote.

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<v Speaker 3>The Telegraph of contacted defat for comment. One Irate Ozzy,

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<v Speaker 3>who did not want to be named, is in Tel

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<v Speaker 3>Aviv on a short term trip, desperate to come home,

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<v Speaker 3>but said little supports being provided, saying that they were

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<v Speaker 3>told we're currently or they're currently sheltering underground at a bunker.

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<v Speaker 3>It's tense and it's frightening, he said. Raphael Grossi, the

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<v Speaker 3>head of the UN's Nuclear watchdog, told the Security Council

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<v Speaker 3>that Israel's strike on Iran's nuclear site near the Tarans

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<v Speaker 3>had destroyed its above ground enrichment plant, causing chemical and

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<v Speaker 3>radiological contamination, and of course, in Tel Aviv, Israeli TV

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<v Speaker 3>showed images of a damaged building and many mangled and

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<v Speaker 3>burned cars from one of the impact sites in the area.

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<v Speaker 3>This is, obviously, you don't need me to remind you significant,

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<v Speaker 3>and we'll keep our eyes and ears open to bring

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<v Speaker 3>you the very latest we know. Flights have been diverted

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<v Speaker 3>from the area as Middle East airspace closes, and this

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<v Speaker 3>is what day two. So as I say, we'll update

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<v Speaker 3>you on what is the very latest in the Middle East.

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<v Speaker 3>Now to another huge story from this week. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we talk about these things that happened, tragedies, and we're

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<v Speaker 3>mindful of the loss of life and how difficult it

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<v Speaker 3>must be for families and friends. But in amongst all

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<v Speaker 3>of this, you'd have to say a miracle. A British

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<v Speaker 3>man the sole survivor of the crash of Air India

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<v Speaker 3>flight one seventy one, which went down moments after take

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<v Speaker 3>off in Maddabad, Matabad on Thursday, killing more than two

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and forty people. Now before I go on, I

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<v Speaker 3>see that a second Air India flight turned around and

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<v Speaker 3>made an emergency landing in Pouquet yesterday when it received

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<v Speaker 3>a bomb threat while en route to New Delhi. Reportedly,

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<v Speaker 3>passengers were escorted off the plane safely. The back of

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<v Speaker 3>the survivor from flight one seven to one. A viswash

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<v Speaker 3>Kumar Ramesh in hospital where he was being treated for

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<v Speaker 3>burns and other injuries. He told the Indian Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 3>Narendra Mody that he still could not believe he was alive.

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<v Speaker 3>He told India's national broadcaster during the meeting with Mody

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<v Speaker 3>that the Boeing seven eight to seven eight Dreamliner seemed

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<v Speaker 3>to be struck stuck rather in the air for a

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<v Speaker 3>few seconds after take off, the lights started flickering green

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<v Speaker 3>and white, and the plane bound for London Gatwick Airport

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<v Speaker 3>with two hundred and forty two people from India, Britain,

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<v Speaker 3>Portugal and Canada on board, seemed unable to gain height

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<v Speaker 3>before it crashed. He said, section of the plane where

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<v Speaker 3>he was seated landed on the ground rather than a building,

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<v Speaker 3>and there was a room for him to escape. He

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<v Speaker 3>unfastened his seat belt and forced himself out of the plane.

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<v Speaker 3>He went on to say, maybe the people who were

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<v Speaker 3>on the other side of the plane weren't able to

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, he said, how I survived. I saw

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<v Speaker 3>people dying in front of my eyes. The air hostess,

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<v Speaker 3>there's two people I saw near me. I walked out

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<v Speaker 3>of the rubble. So courtesy of an interpreter from sky

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<v Speaker 3>News UK, he is a little of what the miracle

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<v Speaker 3>man had to say.

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<v Speaker 1>I met him.

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<v Speaker 4>There's some new other Everything happened in front of my eyes.

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<v Speaker 4>I still can't believe myself how I came out alive

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<v Speaker 4>and give it for a little while, and I thought

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<v Speaker 4>I was going to die here. But when I opened

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<v Speaker 4>my eyes so I realized I'm alive or a minute,

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<v Speaker 4>so I tried to escape. I pulled out the belt

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<v Speaker 4>from under my seat and tried to escape. Then I

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<v Speaker 4>managed to do it. I saw others and the air

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<v Speaker 4>hostesses in front of me who couldn't escapes.

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<v Speaker 3>It's remarkable. Apparently from the plane he made a video

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<v Speaker 3>call to his dad. He was speaking to his dad

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<v Speaker 3>on a telephone call while the while he was getting

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<v Speaker 3>ready to board. I just can't fathom all of this.

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<v Speaker 3>So for more on this, my friend and colleague Brian Wilson,

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<v Speaker 3>broadcast journalist at nine years and of course three aw

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<v Speaker 3>a specialist in aviation, maritime, emergency management, business, infrastructure and travel,

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<v Speaker 3>joins me on the line. Brian, thanks for your time, mate.

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<v Speaker 3>These Boeing Dreamliners I think I'm right in saying had

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<v Speaker 3>a faultless safety record. I imagine the industry doesn't has

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<v Speaker 3>to assess if this is a one off or a

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<v Speaker 3>fault that may affect the entire fleet. Is that a

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<v Speaker 3>step too far? Is it too early? What do you say, mate?

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<v Speaker 5>No, good morning, Luke. Look it's I think you've I

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<v Speaker 5>think you're quite right there. The situation we've got is

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<v Speaker 5>simply the fact that this is a horrible, horrible tragedy.

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<v Speaker 5>I think in terms of the baseline, this is now

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<v Speaker 5>very much about confirming the what and then finding the why.

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<v Speaker 5>I would say at this point in time, if there

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<v Speaker 5>was to be something major with a Boeing Dreamliner, we

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<v Speaker 5>would see dreamliners all around the world grounded. That hasn't happened,

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<v Speaker 5>and we've actually had statements to the contrary from a

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<v Speaker 5>number of aviation authorities, both in Europe, in America, and

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<v Speaker 5>of course even here in Australia. Of course, these aircraft

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<v Speaker 5>are used by Quantus as well. A bit of background

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<v Speaker 5>on at the seven eight sevens. They actually carry around

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<v Speaker 5>half a million people every day, so that's around two

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<v Speaker 5>thousand flights a day that they're taking off around the world.

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<v Speaker 5>So if there was something major as far as the

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<v Speaker 5>system's concerned, we would have seen we would have seen

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<v Speaker 5>the air safety authorities come in and literally issue an

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<v Speaker 5>airworthiness directive and ground these planes. Nonetheless, we will see

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<v Speaker 5>reports today and over the next couple of days of

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<v Speaker 5>airlines taking precautions, inspecting their fleet and things like that.

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<v Speaker 5>And Japan Airlines are doing that as we speak now,

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<v Speaker 5>and also quantus of very very diligent in that space.

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<v Speaker 5>The miracle you talk about seat eleven A is very

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<v Speaker 5>much a miracle.

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<v Speaker 6>I've got to say.

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<v Speaker 5>I was on air at the time that this happened,

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<v Speaker 5>and my news director said, do you think there'll be deaths?

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<v Speaker 5>And my first comment to her was simply, I doubt

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<v Speaker 5>anyone will survive. So to have somebody walk away from

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<v Speaker 5>it is very much a miracle sitting in an exit

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<v Speaker 5>row seat eleven A. Interestingly, the people on the other

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<v Speaker 5>side of the aircraft, those in eleven J, on the

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<v Speaker 5>right hand side of the aircraft, they didn't survive, So

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<v Speaker 5>this is certainly a miracle. I must say that if

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't see the images of the man's boarding pass,

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<v Speaker 5>I probably would have I probably would have been a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit doubtful of the story. That's how that's how

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<v Speaker 5>miraculous it is.

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<v Speaker 3>So let me ask you about what you saw in

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<v Speaker 3>the video. And again I appreciate as an expert you

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<v Speaker 3>have a much better view on these things than the

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<v Speaker 3>rest of us. But you hear things like the landing

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<v Speaker 3>gear was still down, the plane might have stalled. Now

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure exactly what that means, but from a

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<v Speaker 3>you know, consider it's lay people, not you us. When

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<v Speaker 3>you look at that something obvious to you. Does a

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<v Speaker 3>plane stalled? What does that even mean?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it certainly was the case. Literally, I reported this

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<v Speaker 5>on air just around seven thirty ish, so it wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>too long after it happened. The first vision I saw,

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<v Speaker 5>the first thing I looked at, the flaps were attracted,

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<v Speaker 5>the gear was down, and the speed appeared to be

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<v Speaker 5>the lower. So certainly, in my view, straight away, something

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<v Speaker 5>was not right in that situation. When you're on a

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<v Speaker 5>plane and you're about to take off, of course you'll

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<v Speaker 5>hear the flaps actually extend out. That increases the size

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<v Speaker 5>of the wing and creates more lift at lower speeds,

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<v Speaker 5>So straight away that's an issue. The fact that the

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<v Speaker 5>plane had rotated off the deck and the gear hadn't

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<v Speaker 5>been brought up. That creates an enormous amount of drag.

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<v Speaker 5>The procedure normally is that you'll have your other pilot

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<v Speaker 5>to call out your speed V one, which is the

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<v Speaker 5>speed at which you can't have brought you have to

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<v Speaker 5>take off. You'll rotate off the deck and as soon

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<v Speaker 5>as you've got some positive climb. The next command is

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<v Speaker 5>gear up, and that clearly shows that things were not

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<v Speaker 5>necessarily what you would expect on the flight deck at

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<v Speaker 5>the time. The way these aircraft work look is that

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<v Speaker 5>they're highly complex, highly computerized, but they do rely on

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<v Speaker 5>human inputs. So things like the temperature, the air density,

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<v Speaker 5>which is critical a Mutabad at the time thirty seven

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<v Speaker 5>degrees the air density there is not the friend of flying,

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<v Speaker 5>the weight of the aircraft, the runway length, So all

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<v Speaker 5>of these things are manual inputs. So what the investigators

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<v Speaker 5>are going to do now is they're going to forensically

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<v Speaker 5>tear apart that data that's come from the black boxes

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<v Speaker 5>that they've recovered. They're going to create a number of

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<v Speaker 5>specialist teams. There's people from all around the world that are.

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<v Speaker 6>Helping the.

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<v Speaker 5>RKO supervisors and the Indian authorities to investigate this, and

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<v Speaker 5>then they'll forensically dissect what were the inputs into the aircraft,

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<v Speaker 5>what were the crew's actions, did were there any manual interventions?

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<v Speaker 5>And these are the things that will actually we'll see

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<v Speaker 5>in a preliminary report in around about a month's time,

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<v Speaker 5>But certainly this is now very much a case of

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<v Speaker 5>looking at why this happened, and I think anybody getting

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<v Speaker 5>on a seven eighty seven today shouldn't be concerned. This

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<v Speaker 5>certainly is very much like mister Kuma's miraculous walking away

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<v Speaker 5>from it very much or one off.

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<v Speaker 3>Great to talk to you mate, Thank you and if

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<v Speaker 3>we need you tomorrow we're not interfering. We'll find you again.

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<v Speaker 3>But thanks so much for your expertise anytime er. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Brian Wilson from three aw and Melbourne and more broadly

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<v Speaker 3>nine News and as you can tell an aviation expert here,

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<v Speaker 3>we've got some stuff from Brian. They're amazing now quickly

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<v Speaker 3>and sadly. A woman has died after a house was

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<v Speaker 3>engulfed in flames in Petersham overnight in Sydney around ten

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<v Speaker 3>to midnight, emergency services attended a terrace on Westbourne Street,

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<v Speaker 3>Petersham reports of a fire. Residents in neighboring properties were

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<v Speaker 3>evacuated by police while Fired and Rescue New South Wales

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<v Speaker 3>battle to extinguish the blaze. A body believe to be

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<v Speaker 3>that of an eighty two year old woman was found

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<v Speaker 3>inside the home, yet to be formally identified. A fifty

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<v Speaker 3>seven year old man was treated by paramedics at the

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<v Speaker 3>scene for smoke inhalation before being taken to hospital in

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<v Speaker 3>a stable condition. An axed Queensland captain Daily Cherry Evans

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<v Speaker 3>horror week continued. He was grabbed by a fan after

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<v Speaker 3>the Titans did a job on Manly last night. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>the Titans a gold coast, bounced back from last week's

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<v Speaker 3>Broncos drubbing, beating Manley twenty eight to eight at Sea

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<v Speaker 3>Bars Superstadium. A startled Cherry Evans was stunned by the

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<v Speaker 3>man dressed in Manly gear who got hands on him

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<v Speaker 3>before being tackled to the ground by multiple security guards

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<v Speaker 3>and then marched from the field. Not only did Manley

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<v Speaker 3>get done, but that there were a couple of injuries.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what's going on there, do you? Because

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<v Speaker 3>one week they look wow and the next week this dally.

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<v Speaker 3>Terry Evans was controversially dropped by the Morons for the

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<v Speaker 3>must win Oragin game on Wednesday in Perth. Now on

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<v Speaker 3>the show Today, Dennis Shanahan from The AIS Will joined

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<v Speaker 3>me shortly for the latest in federal politics. Ge wrote

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<v Speaker 3>a fascinating story this week in case you missed it.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, the PM's been asked to personally intervene in

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<v Speaker 3>a decade old, four hundred million dollar if you don't mind,

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<v Speaker 3>compensation claim for Australian and US citizens over a New

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<v Speaker 3>South Wales government mining confiscation as part of an upcoming

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<v Speaker 3>deal with Donald Trump on trade tariffs. Wouldn't you love

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<v Speaker 3>to be in the room? Wouldn't you love to be

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<v Speaker 3>in the room if they ever meet as a PM

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<v Speaker 3>heads to Canada for the G seven and potentially meets

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<v Speaker 3>the US on the US president on the sidelines. Trade

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<v Speaker 3>representatives in Washington are seeking a resolution to this compensation

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<v Speaker 3>claim rising for the New South Wales Liberal government's confiscation

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<v Speaker 3>of mine sinning loses back in twenty fourteen, and the

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<v Speaker 3>US Trade people have repeatedly raised a lack of compensation

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<v Speaker 3>as a breach of the US Australia Free Trade Agreement.

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<v Speaker 3>As I say, wouldn't you love to be on the

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<v Speaker 3>sidelines of that meeting? Somehow? We'll talk to Dennis about

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<v Speaker 3>that and the other issues from the political week after

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<v Speaker 3>ten this morning, I want to go to Morewell in

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<v Speaker 3>the La Trobe Valiant, Victoria, where the trial of accused

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<v Speaker 3>triple murderer Aaron Patterson's been taking place. It's the case

0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:34.520
<v Speaker 3>which has garnered global attention. Three guests that a lunch

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<v Speaker 3>died after eating beef Wellington in twenty twenty three, and

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<v Speaker 3>the question in the eyes of many is was it

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<v Speaker 3>murder or a tragic mistake? Now? Both Crown Prosecutors and

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<v Speaker 3>Defense Council concluded their cross examination of Miss Patterson this week,

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<v Speaker 3>so there will be no more evidence in coming days

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<v Speaker 3>closing arguments. I want to speak to nine News Penelope Lesh,

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<v Speaker 3>co host of the nine pod cast the Mushroom Trial.

0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:05.960
<v Speaker 3>Say Grace, she'll join me, and as you might expect,

0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:09.720
<v Speaker 3>there are limitations on what we can discuss, so we've

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<v Speaker 3>got to protect the jury, what they're exposed to and

0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:16.240
<v Speaker 3>the legal safeguard. So we'll bring you a sense of

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<v Speaker 3>what life has been like in Morewell whilst the trial

0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:24.040
<v Speaker 3>has been taking place. It's astonishing economists from macrobusiness, dot com,

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<v Speaker 3>dot Au and weekends regularlyf Van Nonsoalan joins me after

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<v Speaker 3>eleven Today he'll rip into Australia's energy armageddon from page

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<v Speaker 3>to the Telly today more power price increases, Yeah, beauty,

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<v Speaker 3>that promise of two hundred and seventy five dollars saving

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<v Speaker 3>seems I don't know so last decade. Gosh, what a

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<v Speaker 3>mess we've got ourselves into. Anyway, we'll talk to Leith

0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:52.399
<v Speaker 3>about that. And whilst we've had an economic clown of

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<v Speaker 3>the Week for the past couple of weeks, this week

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<v Speaker 3>he's found us an economic champion. Ask a trade with

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<v Speaker 3>Simon Stevenson. A will discuss what's important to consider when

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<v Speaker 3>painting tiles and difficult to paint services, amongst other things,

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<v Speaker 3>and will take you DIY calls Craig Bennett in Starstruck

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<v Speaker 3>looks at the life of the outstanding Brian Wilson. He

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<v Speaker 3>of Beach Boys legend and there's so many great songs,

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<v Speaker 3>but for some reason this one really appeals to me. Ah, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>that was off there. I think their last studio album

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<v Speaker 3>as the Beach Boys. That's why God made the radio.

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<v Speaker 3>But there's so many other great songs. Where do I begin.

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<v Speaker 3>I could play you a minion of them now and

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<v Speaker 3>still not be sick of it, but we better not

0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:05.720
<v Speaker 3>do that. We'll spend time with Craig Glader and the

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<v Speaker 3>show about the life and times of Brian. Isn't it

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<v Speaker 3>an amazing show? Two Brian Wilson's one an Aviation expert,

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<v Speaker 3>and the other a beach boy Alice Stoles from Domain

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<v Speaker 3>with a deep dive into the real estate markets of

0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:21.960
<v Speaker 3>Brisbane and city. Of course, quiz your calls, texts and

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<v Speaker 3>emails or the latest breaking news, all the infometh yor

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<v Speaker 3>you need to help you get around town with a

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<v Speaker 3>minimum of fuss. It's Saturday, the fourteenth of June. It's

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<v Speaker 3>ten degrees in Sydney, but it feels like six. It's

0:21:35.080 --> 0:21:38.520
<v Speaker 3>thirteen in Brisbane and that feels like eleven. And this

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<v Speaker 3>is weekends with Luke Grant on two GB and full

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<v Speaker 3>BC and Catherine Hines. Good morning to you helping us

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<v Speaker 3>out with the roads this weekend. Now. Eric's been in

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<v Speaker 3>touch on the email. Look just for your info. My

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<v Speaker 3>son's pilot seven eight to seven pilot. That's complete confidence

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<v Speaker 3>in the aircraft. Good on you, Eric. Nice to hear

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<v Speaker 3>from you, mate. I hope things are well. One three

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<v Speaker 3>one eight seven three is a number. William, good morning,

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<v Speaker 3>Good morning morning. How can I help you, mate?

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<v Speaker 7>I would be most grateful if you would give a

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<v Speaker 7>birthday call to my wife seventy eight years of age today.

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<v Speaker 3>Seventy eight today. Is he listening to this?

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<v Speaker 8>Yep?

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<v Speaker 6>Yep?

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<v Speaker 9>I was snug.

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<v Speaker 10>The little on for session.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah right, leone, leone, never let William out of your sight.

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<v Speaker 3>Now he's rung me to tell me that your seventy

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<v Speaker 3>is Did you say seventy eight?

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<v Speaker 6>Seventy eight?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, happy birthday, leone. William?

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<v Speaker 6>Are you?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you roughly the same age? If I can ask

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<v Speaker 3>on ninety six? Hang on, hang on your nineties there?

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<v Speaker 11>Well you when he was four in and a half.

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<v Speaker 3>Mate, you are absolutely astonishing at ninety six. You have

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<v Speaker 3>stuck into the little room to ring little old Luki

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<v Speaker 3>to tell him that Leoni Susanna is seventy eight today.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you doing something special? Please tell me you are.

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, my son's coming down and taking us out to lunch.

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<v Speaker 3>Beautiful and we so no it's Luke grand Good on you,

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<v Speaker 3>Luke Grand oh good. Lots of love to you both.

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<v Speaker 3>Have a wonderful day, and thanks so much for calling.

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<v Speaker 1>Priming and stuff The la Ventral Politics with Dinnis Shanahan.

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<v Speaker 3>National Editor of the Australian newspaper Dennis Shanahan, how are you,

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<v Speaker 3>my friend?

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<v Speaker 10>I'm fine, Thank you, Luke. And I can tell you

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<v Speaker 10>it's sunny so I can see the snow mountains oh.

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<v Speaker 3>There you are, there, you are. As Albo makes his

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<v Speaker 3>first post election trip to North America, a US and Canada,

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<v Speaker 3>the unfolding war between Israel and Iran as overshadowed and

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<v Speaker 3>complicated Australia's position on both defense spending and orcas and babs,

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<v Speaker 3>even our recognition of Palestine. This is fascinating from a

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<v Speaker 3>commentator's point of view. What do you make of it all?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, Look, the trip to the US to attend the

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<v Speaker 10>G seven was going to be a big moment for

0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:47.480
<v Speaker 10>Anthony Albaneti. He was scheduled or hoping to meet Donald

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<v Speaker 10>Trump face to face for the first time, and this

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<v Speaker 10>was going to be the big post election trip. It

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<v Speaker 10>was going to be about trades and tariffs, and we

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<v Speaker 10>had all the arguments lined up.

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<v Speaker 12>Unfortunately, the Israeli attack on Iran and the response against

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<v Speaker 12>what is now an unfolding war missiles, drones and planes

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<v Speaker 12>has actually changed his agenda.

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<v Speaker 10>Completely for the G seven and for the President of

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<v Speaker 10>the United States. What is now going to be top

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<v Speaker 10>of his agenda is the fact that the US has

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<v Speaker 10>been asking that Australia lift its defense spending to three

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<v Speaker 10>point five percent of GDP repeatedly said that Anthony Alberinezi

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<v Speaker 10>has said that he could not agree to a number,

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<v Speaker 10>hasn't agreed to your numbers. Is rather he'd look at

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<v Speaker 10>how we spent the money so that we've got a

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<v Speaker 10>better result. But added to that was the announcement of

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<v Speaker 10>this work or the river A this week that the

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<v Speaker 10>US is reviewing the UCUS nuclear Submarine agreement and what

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<v Speaker 10>they are saying is it has to actually amount to

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<v Speaker 10>being in America's interest first and what this could physically mean.

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<v Speaker 10>And this is looking at the problem, the long term

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<v Speaker 10>problem that can the US actually produce enough nuclear submarines

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<v Speaker 10>for its own use and in addition to giving them

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<v Speaker 10>to Australia, selling them to Australia. So this is a

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<v Speaker 10>really major problem for Australia, wherein this is our biggest,

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<v Speaker 10>biggest investment in defense ever. And now the US is

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<v Speaker 10>saying we're going to have a second look at this.

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<v Speaker 10>So the agenda for the Prime Minister if he does

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<v Speaker 10>get to meet a President Trump, and given the war

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<v Speaker 10>in Israel Iran, the problems in Los Angeles, the Prime

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<v Speaker 10>the presidents are indicated is cutting short his time at

0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:14.240
<v Speaker 10>the G seven in Canada, and so there's already a

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<v Speaker 10>suggestion that the Prime Minister may.

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<v Speaker 9>Not even be.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you know what, mate, this doesn't pass a

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<v Speaker 3>test for me. There's JD Vance and so many others,

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<v Speaker 3>and this is this is a huge issue for Australia,

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<v Speaker 3>but not just trade but aucus and our own position

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<v Speaker 3>on defense spending. Now, Abbo likes to play tough man

0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:37.960
<v Speaker 3>and say, oh, we won't be dictated to about what

0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:42.520
<v Speaker 3>we should or shouldn't spend. We're bludgers, We're not fair Dickham.

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<v Speaker 3>In this space, we rely on the American relationship dating

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<v Speaker 3>back to w W two that if things get really tough,

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<v Speaker 3>because if Americas said, you know what, this is going

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<v Speaker 3>to be too hard and too expensive for us, then

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<v Speaker 3>you know we're up for grads. And I just think

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<v Speaker 3>it's so important that someone like the Prime Minister Scott

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<v Speaker 3>he should say listen, this relationship means a lot. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going over there and I'm talking to someone and I'm

0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:11.000
<v Speaker 3>letting the Americans know that this means a lot. And

0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:14.159
<v Speaker 3>I'm in the room with whoever is available, and i

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<v Speaker 3>want it known that this means a lot. He's not

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<v Speaker 3>faired income.

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<v Speaker 10>It's interesting to say that because previously at the Pope's

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<v Speaker 10>inauguration in Rome, the Prime Minister said he wasn't able

0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:34.040
<v Speaker 10>to have a meeting with I'm sorry. At the Pope's

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<v Speaker 10>funeral in Rome, the Prime Minister said he hadn't sought

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<v Speaker 10>a meeting with Vice President Javid Vance because he was

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<v Speaker 10>the leader of the nation and he only met with

0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:46.640
<v Speaker 10>the leader of the nation. And this is a point though,

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<v Speaker 10>and the US is complaining. The Defense Secretary Hexas has

0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:57.280
<v Speaker 10>made this point. He has said sorely the allies, Australia included,

0:28:57.920 --> 0:29:01.160
<v Speaker 10>can't care more about their own defence events than we do.

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<v Speaker 10>And this goes back to for decade centuries when at

0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:11.760
<v Speaker 10>the First World War Australia supplied money directly to the

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<v Speaker 10>British for their navy. There were public donations from Australians

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<v Speaker 10>to go directly to the British Navy so that they

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<v Speaker 10>could help defend Australia because we couldn't do it ourselves.

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<v Speaker 10>We've done it since with the US the World War

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<v Speaker 10>II and beyond, and yet we can't send a message.

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<v Speaker 10>And one of the complaints from the US again about

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<v Speaker 10>Antonio Alperenesi is that he will not say explicitly why

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<v Speaker 10>he is actually investing in August. We all know it's

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<v Speaker 10>about China and the threat of China presents in the

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<v Speaker 10>region and the world, and ANTONIOPENSI will not say it

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<v Speaker 10>because he doesn't want to get China offside. Now. It's

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<v Speaker 10>a difficult position to be in. But one of the

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<v Speaker 10>things the US is saying is simply tell the Australian

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<v Speaker 10>people because what we're having now is a pushback. MPs

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<v Speaker 10>are starting to say, well, some spend this money. Independent MPs,

0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:17.800
<v Speaker 10>we shouldn't spend this money. There is an opposition within

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:21.280
<v Speaker 10>the Labor Party and what we could actually see if

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<v Speaker 10>there is a failure from the Prime Minister and the

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<v Speaker 10>government to actually go out and really strongly sell Orcus

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<v Speaker 10>and the importance of UCUS and the reason for the

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<v Speaker 10>nuclear submarines, then the public will will shift and the

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<v Speaker 10>government may give way that you're dead right. There is

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<v Speaker 10>a need for a real prosecution of the case publicly

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<v Speaker 10>and politically for UCUS, and we need to have it

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<v Speaker 10>from the top leadership.

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<v Speaker 3>Brilliant couldn't agree more. Right Able Tiger break back with

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<v Speaker 3>more of Dennis and Justice say It's according to Tenaire

0:30:57.560 --> 0:31:00.760
<v Speaker 3>regular weekly chat with Dennis Shanahan from the Oss, the

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<v Speaker 3>National Editor. Now, Palestine Mate Palestine, Penny Wang's hard stand

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<v Speaker 3>on recognizing Palestine, How does that go down in America?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think is this another problem that we'll have

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<v Speaker 3>with Trump?

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<v Speaker 10>It certainly is, and it's the timing. It couldn't be worse.

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<v Speaker 10>This week, Penny Wong came out with a very hard line,

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<v Speaker 10>saying Australia had joined lividly with Canada and Norway to

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<v Speaker 10>say that we had decided that a recognition of Palestine

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<v Speaker 10>as a separate state it had to be part of

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<v Speaker 10>the peace process for two state settlement in the Middle East. Now,

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<v Speaker 10>she also at a press conference made some very strong

0:31:58.040 --> 0:32:02.600
<v Speaker 10>remarks about Israel and Palestine. Now, this was all before

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<v Speaker 10>Israel launching attack on Iran and to destroy Iran's ability

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<v Speaker 10>to create a nuclear bomb, which even UN has said

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<v Speaker 10>was getting close, and that the Iran was in breach

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<v Speaker 10>of the international non Peripheration non proliferation treating Now, pennywe

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<v Speaker 10>is a very strong supporter of non proliferation, as is Australia.

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<v Speaker 10>And yet at the very time we were saying Israel

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<v Speaker 10>was doing the wrong thing, the US was saying they

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<v Speaker 10>were standing by Israel on this issue. They didn't support

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<v Speaker 10>the demand for the recognition of Palestine, so we were

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<v Speaker 10>being completely separate on this issue to the US. And

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<v Speaker 10>then on the way to Seattle and Canada, the Prime

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<v Speaker 10>Minister stopped in Fiji and had to actively say, yes,

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<v Speaker 10>we saw we were aware or are aware of what

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<v Speaker 10>the risk of an Iran nuclear bomb would have on

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<v Speaker 10>peace for the world. So the Prime Minister yesterday said yes,

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<v Speaker 10>we recognize Australia recognize the danger of what's happening. He

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<v Speaker 10>has been very careful. He was a very carefully controlled

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<v Speaker 10>two question doorstop, not even a press conference in Fiji,

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<v Speaker 10>so he has been very careful what he said. But

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<v Speaker 10>what he was saying was two days after the Foreign

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<v Speaker 10>Minister had said we were taking a very hard line

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<v Speaker 10>against Israel, opposite to the US. He was then the

0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:47.800
<v Speaker 10>Prime Minister was then saying, yes, we can see the

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<v Speaker 10>problem with Iran having a nuclear bomb, we can see

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<v Speaker 10>why Israel has done what it has and that the

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<v Speaker 10>US was while it didn't partake in the attack or

0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:04.920
<v Speaker 10>provide assistance, it did know they were coming. So once

0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 10>again Australia has been caught out here on a policy

0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:14.400
<v Speaker 10>very different to the US when the strategic circumstances literally

0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:18.920
<v Speaker 10>changed overnight, and we are now in a position where

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<v Speaker 10>Donald Trump is supporting Israel, the rest of the world

0:34:24.320 --> 0:34:28.760
<v Speaker 10>is supporting Israel on the attacks on Iran. We've seen

0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:33.440
<v Speaker 10>comments coming out of Germany saying, yes, they knew exactly

0:34:33.520 --> 0:34:35.359
<v Speaker 10>what they were doing, and they had to do it.

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<v Speaker 10>There is a general feeling no one, including the UN

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<v Speaker 10>or the International Energy Agreement, want anything to do with

0:34:45.600 --> 0:34:49.160
<v Speaker 10>Iran having a nuclear bomb. Everyone agreed it was very close,

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<v Speaker 10>and so our policy position, which is perfectly perfectly entitled

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<v Speaker 10>to take the timing of it, couldn't be worse as

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<v Speaker 10>far as our relations.

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<v Speaker 6>With the U.

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<v Speaker 10>Second.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've got about ninety seconds here. How significant is

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<v Speaker 3>it that a significant labor figure like Bill Kelty has

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<v Speaker 3>declared this tax on unrealized capital gains in super bad policy?

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<v Speaker 3>It is significant, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 10>It is very significant, and it is bad policy. I

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<v Speaker 10>think Bill Kelty, along with Paul Keating, who hasn't yet

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<v Speaker 10>said anything publicly about the superannuation tax, that that is

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<v Speaker 10>the taxing of unrealized paperal gains and the non indexation

0:35:35.760 --> 0:35:39.359
<v Speaker 10>of the threshold, the three million dollars threshold. These are

0:35:39.400 --> 0:35:43.759
<v Speaker 10>principles which are bad policy. They will spread throughout the

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<v Speaker 10>other areas of tax and they undermine This is Bill

0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:52.080
<v Speaker 10>Kelton's point, one of the fathers of labor superannuation scheme,

0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:58.280
<v Speaker 10>says it will undermine superannuation. These are very significant points

0:35:58.640 --> 0:36:02.239
<v Speaker 10>from one of the grand harbors of the ALP and

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:06.560
<v Speaker 10>I think that what we're seeing is more and more opposition,

0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:10.719
<v Speaker 10>more and more isolation of charmers on this. And I

0:36:10.760 --> 0:36:13.879
<v Speaker 10>wouldn't be surprised in the next few months to see

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:17.000
<v Speaker 10>a bit of a shift in the government away from

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<v Speaker 10>unrealized capital games tax.

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<v Speaker 3>Great to chat, Dennis, have a terrific weekend. Cheers mate,

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<v Speaker 3>it's nine to ten. Now it's coming up to five

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:29.360
<v Speaker 3>to ten. Here's another This must irritate listeners in Queensland.

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<v Speaker 3>The Prime Minister's cast doubt over the Brisbane twenty thirty

0:36:33.280 --> 0:36:38.120
<v Speaker 3>two Olympic and Paralympic Games venue plan by suggesting Melbourne

0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:42.800
<v Speaker 3>could still host tennis and rowing be relocated from Rocky

0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:48.040
<v Speaker 3>to Sydney. Albo, appearing on the Two Good Sports podcast

0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:51.879
<v Speaker 3>published yesterday, said there was a bit of debate going

0:36:51.920 --> 0:36:54.680
<v Speaker 3>on over the games and called out the Two Sports

0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:58.680
<v Speaker 3>when discussing the viability and taxpayer burden of major events.

0:36:58.680 --> 0:37:03.440
<v Speaker 3>He said, I've been meeting with Andrew liveris Organizing Committee president,

0:37:04.040 --> 0:37:06.839
<v Speaker 3>as well as with Queensland Premier Christoph Fooley about where

0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:09.840
<v Speaker 3>it goes. For example, are we really going to do

0:37:09.960 --> 0:37:13.239
<v Speaker 3>rowing in Rocky on the Fitzroy River when there's some

0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:19.360
<v Speaker 3>pretty good facilities in Penrith. Well, they're the Brisbane Olympic Games,

0:37:19.400 --> 0:37:24.240
<v Speaker 3>as I have famously said, the bog Brisbane Olympic Games,

0:37:24.719 --> 0:37:29.719
<v Speaker 3>Bog Penrith. I know at State of Oregon. Time is

0:37:29.800 --> 0:37:34.360
<v Speaker 3>in Queensland, but in this albau, what the hell are

0:37:34.400 --> 0:37:37.719
<v Speaker 3>you doing? And I wonder how that plays? As I

0:37:37.760 --> 0:37:41.840
<v Speaker 3>say to our listeners in Brisbane, isn't it funny how

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:45.680
<v Speaker 3>quickly things change once the election's done, go back to

0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:50.400
<v Speaker 3>being the real elbow? Maybe news coming up shortly after

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<v Speaker 3>the news. So much more to bring you today, including

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<v Speaker 3>the latest on this mushroom trial, the trial of Eron

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<v Speaker 3>Patterson in Victoria. Will speak to Penelope Leash, host of

0:38:04.640 --> 0:38:09.279
<v Speaker 3>the Mushroom Trials, Say Grace and nine podcast. Not a

0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:11.120
<v Speaker 3>lot we can say, but we can certainly tell you

0:38:11.160 --> 0:38:14.320
<v Speaker 3>what the town of Morwell has been like this last

0:38:14.320 --> 0:38:17.080
<v Speaker 3>period of time. And of course Simon Stephenson for asker

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<v Speaker 3>trading here after the news, which is next.

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<v Speaker 1>Across Australia, it's back to weekends with Luke.

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<v Speaker 3>Grat good morning, hope you well today, Thanks so much

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<v Speaker 3>for having a sign on this Saturday, the fourteenth day

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<v Speaker 3>of June. A sunny day in Sydneytown. A cold start

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<v Speaker 3>of things here and I think it's sunny today and

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<v Speaker 3>tomorrow and Brisbane early twenties some of the weather steaks.

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<v Speaker 3>Well done you in the meantime every one age seven three.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the open line number. The text is zero for

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<v Speaker 3>six zero eight seven three eight seven three and the

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<v Speaker 3>email is two GB dot com, four BC dot com

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<v Speaker 3>dot What are you going to do is click on

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<v Speaker 3>the feedback icon. Penelope Lish, host of the Mushroom Trials

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<v Speaker 3>Save or Say Grace Rather podcast, will join me in

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<v Speaker 3>a moment or two. Plenty of news about today. The

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<v Speaker 3>Queensland CFM EU is staging a coup against its national

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<v Speaker 3>leader after sensational allegations of backdoor deals with the Labor

0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:39.080
<v Speaker 3>Party and the nation's peak union body. This is in

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<v Speaker 3>the Courier Mail. It can be revealed. Queensland delegates unanimously

0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:47.680
<v Speaker 3>passed a vote of no confidence against CFM EU National

0:39:47.719 --> 0:39:51.759
<v Speaker 3>Secretary Zack Smith this week, accusing him of engaging in

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<v Speaker 3>self serving and unilateral dealings with the ACTU. Now it's

0:39:58.000 --> 0:40:01.480
<v Speaker 3>understood delegates involved in in the motion were aligned with

0:40:01.520 --> 0:40:06.280
<v Speaker 3>the former Queensland State Secretary Michael Ravbar and former Assistant

0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:11.520
<v Speaker 3>State Secretary Jade Ingham, who were ousted during the administration takeover.

0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:17.880
<v Speaker 3>Mister Smith, now banished from CFMU Queensland NT meetings, was

0:40:17.920 --> 0:40:21.839
<v Speaker 3>also accused of going behind members backs and dealing with

0:40:21.880 --> 0:40:24.440
<v Speaker 3>the Labor Party in Federal Minister Tony Burke when he

0:40:24.480 --> 0:40:29.399
<v Speaker 3>handled the workplace portfolio. The motion alleged this was done

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<v Speaker 3>quote particularly in circumstances where elected union leaders have been

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<v Speaker 3>removed without proper process or respect from member representation. Members

0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:45.320
<v Speaker 3>cited grave concerns over Smith's conduct and legitimacy and denounced

0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:49.000
<v Speaker 3>his appointment as National Secretary under the federal government imposed

0:40:49.000 --> 0:40:53.480
<v Speaker 3>administration led by Mark Irving Case. And that's on the

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:57.440
<v Speaker 3>back of a story I was reading yesterday, Nick Mackenzie's

0:40:57.440 --> 0:40:59.920
<v Speaker 3>work in the Sydney Morning Herald. I imagine I'm not sure,

0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:03.480
<v Speaker 3>but it might well be part of a future sixty

0:41:03.520 --> 0:41:08.399
<v Speaker 3>minutes report about the Awu and to see if he'm

0:41:08.400 --> 0:41:14.920
<v Speaker 3>au and a massive wind farm project if time permits,

0:41:15.280 --> 0:41:17.200
<v Speaker 3>I'd love to talk to Nick about that. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if we can make it happen this weekend, but

0:41:18.920 --> 0:41:23.600
<v Speaker 3>it's worth keeping an eye ad for it's extraordinary and

0:41:23.719 --> 0:41:27.040
<v Speaker 3>international drug cartel has been caught selling massive amounts of

0:41:27.120 --> 0:41:30.920
<v Speaker 3>fake cocaine to Sydney gangsters, who have then sold it

0:41:31.000 --> 0:41:34.920
<v Speaker 3>to customers on the streets. Police allege the gang of five,

0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:39.839
<v Speaker 3>who were all born in Columbia but traveling on Spanish passports,

0:41:40.440 --> 0:41:44.120
<v Speaker 3>have been arrested with ninety five kilos of what is

0:41:44.160 --> 0:41:49.400
<v Speaker 3>allegedly inner powder passed off as bricks of cocaine. At

0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:53.080
<v Speaker 3>least four major Sydney crime citicates are believed to have

0:41:53.120 --> 0:41:56.719
<v Speaker 3>been duped by the cartel, who purchased large quantities of

0:41:56.800 --> 0:41:59.600
<v Speaker 3>the drug, believing the four men and one female were

0:41:59.640 --> 0:42:03.360
<v Speaker 3>part of an established South American team sent to Australia

0:42:03.400 --> 0:42:06.120
<v Speaker 3>to sell the drugs. The head of the New South

0:42:06.120 --> 0:42:10.799
<v Speaker 3>Wales Organized Crime Squad, Detective Superintendent Peter Vowe, said this

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:14.920
<v Speaker 3>had the potential to cause enormous conflict on Sydney streets.

0:42:15.560 --> 0:42:19.560
<v Speaker 3>There'd be individuals or syndicates who may take retribution against

0:42:19.560 --> 0:42:22.719
<v Speaker 3>others believing they had been ripped off once it was

0:42:22.760 --> 0:42:26.880
<v Speaker 3>realized the drugs were fake. And how amazing is this?

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<v Speaker 3>The renowned pathologist, Professor Richard Scollier, who had been fortunate

0:42:34.120 --> 0:42:37.799
<v Speaker 3>enough to have on the show, has just completed his

0:42:38.200 --> 0:42:42.880
<v Speaker 3>two hundred and fiftieth Park Run. It was only in

0:42:42.960 --> 0:42:46.640
<v Speaker 3>March when he was told he only had three months

0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:52.880
<v Speaker 3>left to live after his aggressive brain cancer returned. The

0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:55.560
<v Speaker 3>former Australian of the Year was joined by his children,

0:42:56.680 --> 0:42:59.880
<v Speaker 3>his wife Katie, plus other family and friends for the

0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:05.520
<v Speaker 3>milestone at Greenway Park Run in Haberfield. The fifty eight

0:43:05.640 --> 0:43:08.279
<v Speaker 3>year old Professor Scollier reached the finish line of the

0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:12.880
<v Speaker 3>five k run and just under forty minutes fair Dinkham.

0:43:13.960 --> 0:43:17.200
<v Speaker 3>He was cheered by his supporters, including many strangers who'd

0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:21.640
<v Speaker 3>swarmed to see him reach the big two fifty. Here

0:43:21.760 --> 0:43:33.120
<v Speaker 3>is a moment hecross the line. Now he was given

0:43:33.200 --> 0:43:37.040
<v Speaker 3>three months to live. Oh, he's been given well, there's

0:43:37.080 --> 0:43:39.759
<v Speaker 3>no easy and pretty way of saying a death sentences

0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:44.640
<v Speaker 3>all through his journey. If he's just not one of

0:43:44.640 --> 0:43:48.839
<v Speaker 3>the great humans in the history of human existence, it's

0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:51.759
<v Speaker 3>not because he's done two hundred and fifty of these

0:43:51.880 --> 0:43:58.680
<v Speaker 3>park runs. But the dedication to finding solutions to life

0:43:58.800 --> 0:44:03.200
<v Speaker 3>ending illness and all the others. I mean, he's been given.

0:44:03.280 --> 0:44:07.239
<v Speaker 3>He's been gifted. That's not the right word. So many

0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:11.239
<v Speaker 3>reasons just to again not the right word, turn things up.

0:44:12.600 --> 0:44:16.960
<v Speaker 3>He just won't be stopped. He just won't have the

0:44:17.000 --> 0:44:20.640
<v Speaker 3>wind removed from his sails. He just won't. He just can't.

0:44:20.680 --> 0:44:27.160
<v Speaker 3>It's extraordinary, it's so inspirational. I was really honored, quite

0:44:27.200 --> 0:44:30.239
<v Speaker 3>emotional when I spoke to him, because he's just one

0:44:30.280 --> 0:44:32.000
<v Speaker 3>of those people he kind of wish you could be,

0:44:33.600 --> 0:44:41.080
<v Speaker 3>even though he's had such awful health outcomes. The Melanoma

0:44:41.200 --> 0:44:43.680
<v Speaker 3>Institute co director set himself the goal of getting to

0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:45.680
<v Speaker 3>two hundred and fifty runs around the track and have

0:44:45.800 --> 0:44:47.879
<v Speaker 3>a field. At times he didn't think he'd make it,

0:44:48.880 --> 0:44:53.080
<v Speaker 3>but he's defied the odds again. Professor Scollier, we loved

0:44:53.120 --> 0:44:58.160
<v Speaker 3>you so much. You are such a champion. He really is.

0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:02.480
<v Speaker 3>Note from Queensland Police this morning. A man's been charged

0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:07.960
<v Speaker 3>with multiple offenses following an incident in Beachmere early today.

0:45:08.400 --> 0:45:11.480
<v Speaker 3>Emergency services called to a car park on Saint Smith

0:45:11.640 --> 0:45:15.040
<v Speaker 3>Road just before one am. Reports a twenty nine year

0:45:15.040 --> 0:45:19.160
<v Speaker 3>old man was intentionally driving a black Nissan X trail

0:45:19.200 --> 0:45:23.640
<v Speaker 3>of pedestrians. Forty five year old male pedestrians sustained non

0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:27.360
<v Speaker 3>life threatening injuries to his lower body he was struck

0:45:27.400 --> 0:45:30.520
<v Speaker 3>by the Nissan. The vehicle is then alleged to have

0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:33.520
<v Speaker 3>left the scene, but was tracked by police to Old

0:45:33.600 --> 0:45:37.160
<v Speaker 3>Beachmere Road, where a twenty nine year old Kibulche man

0:45:37.239 --> 0:45:41.040
<v Speaker 3>was taken into custody. He's been charged with a variety

0:45:41.080 --> 0:45:46.200
<v Speaker 3>of things, including one count each of assault's occasioning bodily harm.

0:45:47.000 --> 0:45:51.520
<v Speaker 3>He'll be at Kibulcher Magistrate's Court on Monday, June sixteenth.

0:45:53.560 --> 0:45:57.040
<v Speaker 3>Amongst those he did drive under the influence of liquor.

0:45:57.320 --> 0:46:04.040
<v Speaker 3>This report says investigation continue into that one eight seven

0:46:04.120 --> 0:46:06.959
<v Speaker 3>three the number plenty of texts, plenty of emails today

0:46:07.000 --> 0:46:10.360
<v Speaker 3>as well. By the way, the US Open Golf, Adam

0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:15.439
<v Speaker 3>Scott hanging tough inside the top ten and Jason Day

0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:17.759
<v Speaker 3>fired one of the best rounds of the day as

0:46:17.760 --> 0:46:21.920
<v Speaker 3>a leaderboard chaos ensues in the second round. Oakmont continues

0:46:21.960 --> 0:46:25.719
<v Speaker 3>to give the world's best golfers plenty of headaches, as

0:46:25.760 --> 0:46:31.759
<v Speaker 3>the projected cut line currently stands at plus seven thunderstorms

0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:35.640
<v Speaker 3>are predicted to sweep through the course. Sam Burns, who

0:46:35.640 --> 0:46:38.319
<v Speaker 3>fired a stunning five hunder par round of sixty five,

0:46:38.360 --> 0:46:43.040
<v Speaker 3>he leads away at three under overnight leader JJ Spawn

0:46:43.120 --> 0:46:47.279
<v Speaker 3>one shot back after seventy two. Meanwhile, Scott remains an

0:46:47.280 --> 0:46:51.240
<v Speaker 3>even par for the tournament a second straight round of seventy.

0:46:52.160 --> 0:46:55.719
<v Speaker 3>The twenty thirteen Master's champ made three birdies and three bogies,

0:46:56.280 --> 0:47:01.080
<v Speaker 3>as only Burns, Spawn and Victor Hoveland one under, sitting

0:47:01.200 --> 0:47:08.640
<v Speaker 3>above Adam Scott. Go Adam Scott, go get him. Couldn't

0:47:08.640 --> 0:47:12.040
<v Speaker 3>care what I say, but makes me feel better. On

0:47:12.120 --> 0:47:15.000
<v Speaker 3>the text, Peter says the coke buyers took no notice

0:47:15.000 --> 0:47:19.799
<v Speaker 3>from the movies, always testing coke before buying. Peter, Yeah,

0:47:20.000 --> 0:47:22.960
<v Speaker 3>see what you did there. Thank you. Luke was Albo

0:47:23.080 --> 0:47:27.120
<v Speaker 3>suggesting that Melbourne could host the Olympic. Tennis and rowing

0:47:27.200 --> 0:47:30.920
<v Speaker 3>have anything to do with sandbagging support for the past.

0:47:30.920 --> 0:47:35.440
<v Speaker 3>It's used by date labor government in Victoria. Ron interesting observation,

0:47:35.640 --> 0:47:38.360
<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much. I have a number of listeners

0:47:38.360 --> 0:47:41.800
<v Speaker 3>in Victoria who said there's no way we deserve any

0:47:42.160 --> 0:47:44.719
<v Speaker 3>slice of the games here given what we did to

0:47:44.760 --> 0:47:49.799
<v Speaker 3>the Commonwealth Games. Very good point. And this one from

0:47:50.200 --> 0:47:53.880
<v Speaker 3>Noel just something to considers. Sydney's not much further away

0:47:53.880 --> 0:47:57.240
<v Speaker 3>from Brisbane than Rocky and there's no crops at Penrith.

0:47:58.480 --> 0:48:03.000
<v Speaker 3>Not a silly point. Somehow, I've engaged Siri on my device.

0:48:04.520 --> 0:48:07.760
<v Speaker 3>Thankfully I've got the volume down, although sirih sometimes talks

0:48:07.800 --> 0:48:10.359
<v Speaker 3>back to you even when the volumes down. I don't

0:48:10.440 --> 0:48:14.560
<v Speaker 3>understand that. But anyway, yes, I understand what you're saying.

0:48:15.800 --> 0:48:21.640
<v Speaker 3>Cold you could combine the Olympic shooting with the rowing

0:48:22.520 --> 0:48:25.359
<v Speaker 3>and have Olympic shooting on the banks of the river

0:48:25.400 --> 0:48:29.680
<v Speaker 3>at Rocky on the lookout for crocs and if they

0:48:30.239 --> 0:48:34.800
<v Speaker 3>find one or see one and shoot it. Hello bonus points.

0:48:35.600 --> 0:48:37.879
<v Speaker 3>Thank you Noil for getting in touch at seventeen after

0:48:37.920 --> 0:48:41.080
<v Speaker 3>ten o'clock. It is twenty one after ten o'clock. I

0:48:41.120 --> 0:48:44.080
<v Speaker 3>want to go to Molwell now in the Latrobe Valley

0:48:44.800 --> 0:48:47.840
<v Speaker 3>in Victoria, where the trial of accused triple murderer Aaron

0:48:47.880 --> 0:48:52.279
<v Speaker 3>Patterson has been taking place. Now it's the case which

0:48:52.320 --> 0:48:56.719
<v Speaker 3>has obviously guarded global attention. Three guests you'll remember died

0:48:56.800 --> 0:49:00.000
<v Speaker 3>after eating beef Wellington at a lunch in twenty five

0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:03.480
<v Speaker 3>twenty three, and the question posed by many is was

0:49:03.520 --> 0:49:07.840
<v Speaker 3>it murder or a tragic mistake? Both Crown prosecutors and

0:49:07.920 --> 0:49:12.560
<v Speaker 3>defense counsel concluded their cross examination of Miss Patterson during

0:49:12.560 --> 0:49:15.880
<v Speaker 3>the week. No more new evidence, you imagine, will be

0:49:15.920 --> 0:49:19.560
<v Speaker 3>delivered in the trial. The next steps closing arguments from

0:49:19.600 --> 0:49:24.600
<v Speaker 3>both sides that happen before the judge delivers final instructions.

0:49:24.640 --> 0:49:28.319
<v Speaker 3>After that, the fate of the accused rests in the

0:49:28.360 --> 0:49:32.200
<v Speaker 3>hands of the jury, who will deliberate before reaching a verdict. Now,

0:49:32.320 --> 0:49:35.839
<v Speaker 3>as you would understand, there are limitations on what can

0:49:35.880 --> 0:49:39.320
<v Speaker 3>be discussed in relation to the case, and it's critical

0:49:39.360 --> 0:49:43.759
<v Speaker 3>we uphold the fundamental legal principle of an accused accused

0:49:44.120 --> 0:49:46.560
<v Speaker 3>right to a fair trial. But I did want to

0:49:46.560 --> 0:49:48.799
<v Speaker 3>get a sense of what life has been like in

0:49:48.880 --> 0:49:52.800
<v Speaker 3>Morewell whilst this trial has been taking place and global

0:49:52.800 --> 0:49:56.279
<v Speaker 3>attention has been focused on the town. So to help

0:49:56.360 --> 0:50:01.960
<v Speaker 3>us out, Nine News Penelopelesh. Amongst other things, Penelope is

0:50:01.960 --> 0:50:05.400
<v Speaker 3>a co host of the nine podcast The Mushroom Trial.

0:50:05.760 --> 0:50:10.000
<v Speaker 3>Say Grace. Now, I know in Australia we just love

0:50:11.120 --> 0:50:16.480
<v Speaker 3>true crime stories, a true crime coverage and if you

0:50:16.520 --> 0:50:18.799
<v Speaker 3>do nothing else, can I just say to you this

0:50:19.000 --> 0:50:22.600
<v Speaker 3>nine and look we're part of the nine Network. Make

0:50:22.680 --> 0:50:25.440
<v Speaker 3>no secret of that. We love all the things our

0:50:25.480 --> 0:50:30.360
<v Speaker 3>network produce and this podcast is just next level. Anyway,

0:50:30.920 --> 0:50:35.080
<v Speaker 3>Penelopelesh is on the line. Thanks for your time, Thanks

0:50:35.120 --> 0:50:38.480
<v Speaker 3>so much for having me on pleasure. So let's start here.

0:50:38.560 --> 0:50:41.759
<v Speaker 3>Paint a picture of what lifers look like in more

0:50:41.760 --> 0:50:45.080
<v Speaker 3>Well while this trial has been going on. Are the

0:50:45.280 --> 0:50:47.480
<v Speaker 3>queues outside the court? What does that look like?

0:50:48.520 --> 0:50:50.920
<v Speaker 13>Well, we've been in more Well now for the end

0:50:50.960 --> 0:50:53.680
<v Speaker 13>of this week was seven weeks, so more than seven

0:50:53.719 --> 0:50:57.000
<v Speaker 13>weeks now that all of the legal parties have been

0:50:57.040 --> 0:51:00.160
<v Speaker 13>down there and the media as well. It's too and

0:51:00.160 --> 0:51:02.560
<v Speaker 13>a half hours from Melbourne, and it's very cold at

0:51:02.560 --> 0:51:04.839
<v Speaker 13>the moment. I could say it certainly turned but yeah,

0:51:04.880 --> 0:51:08.680
<v Speaker 13>there's definitely been, particularly in the last couple of weeks,

0:51:08.719 --> 0:51:12.160
<v Speaker 13>a lot more members of the public coming to try

0:51:12.200 --> 0:51:14.439
<v Speaker 13>and get a seat in the courtroom and be able

0:51:14.480 --> 0:51:16.600
<v Speaker 13>to sit in that public area of the court. And

0:51:17.000 --> 0:51:20.440
<v Speaker 13>there have been hues outside the courtrooms some mornings, some

0:51:20.480 --> 0:51:23.040
<v Speaker 13>people getting there as early as sort of six seven o'clock,

0:51:23.360 --> 0:51:25.920
<v Speaker 13>five o'clock even in the morning to sort of get

0:51:25.960 --> 0:51:27.600
<v Speaker 13>a spot in the courtroom. And then there's obviously a

0:51:27.640 --> 0:51:30.160
<v Speaker 13>lot of media a lot of local media and media

0:51:30.200 --> 0:51:32.560
<v Speaker 13>from around the world as well who've been coming and

0:51:32.600 --> 0:51:33.760
<v Speaker 13>going at different times.

0:51:34.040 --> 0:51:37.920
<v Speaker 3>So I've seen I think your colleague drew a picture

0:51:37.920 --> 0:51:39.960
<v Speaker 3>of what the courtroom looks like. It's not very big.

0:51:40.880 --> 0:51:44.479
<v Speaker 3>So what happens with in particular the media, Let's start there,

0:51:44.560 --> 0:51:46.719
<v Speaker 3>because I think there'd be more than I don't know

0:51:46.719 --> 0:51:49.239
<v Speaker 3>if a date seats or ten seats, that number of

0:51:49.280 --> 0:51:52.680
<v Speaker 3>media attending. Obviously, what happens with the overspill, Yeah, so

0:51:52.880 --> 0:51:53.400
<v Speaker 3>I think.

0:51:53.200 --> 0:51:54.840
<v Speaker 13>What you're talking about there, there's been a lot of

0:51:54.880 --> 0:51:58.400
<v Speaker 13>talk about these balloted media seats. There's six media seats

0:51:58.400 --> 0:52:01.799
<v Speaker 13>that are every day put aside specifically for media organizations,

0:52:01.840 --> 0:52:03.920
<v Speaker 13>and they're ballance it off to make sure everyone's sort

0:52:03.920 --> 0:52:04.239
<v Speaker 13>of gets a.

0:52:04.239 --> 0:52:05.000
<v Speaker 6>Fair go there.

0:52:05.239 --> 0:52:07.960
<v Speaker 13>There is a way for media to observe this from

0:52:07.960 --> 0:52:11.160
<v Speaker 13>another room in the courtroom, where there's a live link in,

0:52:11.360 --> 0:52:14.960
<v Speaker 13>so that media can accurately and fairly report what's been

0:52:15.000 --> 0:52:16.759
<v Speaker 13>going on in front of the jury as well. So

0:52:16.800 --> 0:52:20.040
<v Speaker 13>there is that opportunity for media covering this case. But

0:52:20.480 --> 0:52:23.200
<v Speaker 13>most of the time, other than a few days, I've

0:52:23.239 --> 0:52:25.600
<v Speaker 13>been able to usually get a seat somewhere in the

0:52:25.640 --> 0:52:28.720
<v Speaker 13>courtroom and in the public area or squeeze in somewhere.

0:52:28.719 --> 0:52:31.480
<v Speaker 13>People come and go throughout the day and usually there's

0:52:31.560 --> 0:52:33.440
<v Speaker 13>normally a way that you can get a spot sitting

0:52:33.480 --> 0:52:34.120
<v Speaker 13>there for a while.

0:52:34.680 --> 0:52:38.440
<v Speaker 3>And Penelope, have they locals? I know there are people

0:52:38.440 --> 0:52:42.040
<v Speaker 3>that travel around the world or perhaps around Australia to

0:52:42.080 --> 0:52:45.160
<v Speaker 3>look at significant cases. If we've seen this is one,

0:52:45.200 --> 0:52:48.560
<v Speaker 3>it must be. Are the people largely locals from what

0:52:48.640 --> 0:52:49.480
<v Speaker 3>you can make out.

0:52:50.000 --> 0:52:52.640
<v Speaker 13>Yeah, there's been some people that we've sort of spoken to.

0:52:52.760 --> 0:52:55.120
<v Speaker 13>As you go in and out, you all going through

0:52:55.200 --> 0:52:57.520
<v Speaker 13>security lines and things like that, so you sort of

0:52:57.560 --> 0:53:00.400
<v Speaker 13>end up having a chat to people sometimes. Yeah, there

0:53:00.440 --> 0:53:02.040
<v Speaker 13>are a lot of people who are sort of from

0:53:02.040 --> 0:53:06.120
<v Speaker 13>that local gips Land area who have become interested in

0:53:06.160 --> 0:53:08.960
<v Speaker 13>this particular case and they've wanted to sort of come

0:53:08.960 --> 0:53:11.520
<v Speaker 13>and see what's going on. There are definitely people coming

0:53:11.520 --> 0:53:13.959
<v Speaker 13>from Melbourne and further and I think that's one point.

0:53:14.000 --> 0:53:16.279
<v Speaker 13>There have been a few people from interstate as well

0:53:16.280 --> 0:53:18.719
<v Speaker 13>coming to see what's happening. But then of course there's

0:53:18.719 --> 0:53:20.920
<v Speaker 13>a lot of police, there's a lot of lawyers, there's

0:53:20.960 --> 0:53:22.840
<v Speaker 13>a lot of media as well, so it's quite a mixture.

0:53:23.200 --> 0:53:27.520
<v Speaker 3>And is there a space for supporters of people involved

0:53:27.520 --> 0:53:28.279
<v Speaker 3>in the trial or not.

0:53:29.200 --> 0:53:31.920
<v Speaker 13>Yeah, so this is sort of with the balloting of

0:53:31.960 --> 0:53:34.000
<v Speaker 13>the system to make sure that the media don't take

0:53:34.000 --> 0:53:35.680
<v Speaker 13>all the seats or the public don't take all the seats.

0:53:35.719 --> 0:53:38.960
<v Speaker 13>There are sort of rows that they make sure that

0:53:39.040 --> 0:53:42.520
<v Speaker 13>particularly that the family can sit in. Ian Wilkinson, who's

0:53:42.520 --> 0:53:45.160
<v Speaker 13>the only surviving lunch guest, He's been there a lot

0:53:45.160 --> 0:53:46.880
<v Speaker 13>of the days, and a lot of members of his

0:53:46.960 --> 0:53:49.359
<v Speaker 13>family and the Patterson family, they make sure that they

0:53:49.360 --> 0:53:52.239
<v Speaker 13>are able to be there together if they wish to

0:53:52.239 --> 0:53:53.160
<v Speaker 13>be watching this trial.

0:53:53.440 --> 0:53:56.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Now, I know you've been working hard with our

0:53:56.719 --> 0:53:59.680
<v Speaker 3>legal team to understand what we can and can't talk about.

0:54:00.000 --> 0:54:01.960
<v Speaker 3>T plenty of listens saying, oh, come on, have an opinion,

0:54:02.000 --> 0:54:04.960
<v Speaker 3>but that's not what we can do here, and we've

0:54:04.960 --> 0:54:07.560
<v Speaker 3>got restrictions. So what I can ask you, I think

0:54:07.719 --> 0:54:11.040
<v Speaker 3>is one are the key facts of the trials so

0:54:11.160 --> 0:54:14.319
<v Speaker 3>far that have been laid out for souls to see.

0:54:14.960 --> 0:54:19.759
<v Speaker 13>Well, the prosecution alleged that Aaron Patterson deliberately and intentionally

0:54:19.800 --> 0:54:23.120
<v Speaker 13>poisoned her lunch guests. That's the they allegation from them,

0:54:23.719 --> 0:54:27.279
<v Speaker 13>and that's been put to her through cross examination through

0:54:27.320 --> 0:54:29.560
<v Speaker 13>many days on the witness stand. She has finished now,

0:54:29.600 --> 0:54:31.880
<v Speaker 13>but she was on the witness stand across eight days,

0:54:32.160 --> 0:54:35.280
<v Speaker 13>and they put to her many different questions and allegations,

0:54:35.719 --> 0:54:40.120
<v Speaker 13>accusing her of deliberately foraging for deathcap mushrooms and then

0:54:40.160 --> 0:54:43.400
<v Speaker 13>putting them in this meal. She's also it's been alleged

0:54:43.400 --> 0:54:46.919
<v Speaker 13>by the prosecution that she told these in laws, these

0:54:46.920 --> 0:54:49.440
<v Speaker 13>family members that she had or might have a cancer

0:54:49.480 --> 0:54:53.200
<v Speaker 13>diagnosis in order to get them to come to her home. Now,

0:54:53.600 --> 0:54:56.600
<v Speaker 13>the defense argues this was a tragic accident, that Aaron

0:54:56.640 --> 0:55:00.440
<v Speaker 13>Patterson was not aware there was anything of any concern

0:55:00.600 --> 0:55:02.600
<v Speaker 13>in this meal, that she made a beef well in

0:55:02.680 --> 0:55:06.880
<v Speaker 13>term for her loved ones, that she realized in the

0:55:07.000 --> 0:55:10.640
<v Speaker 13>days afterwards that perhaps some dried mushrooms that she'd added,

0:55:10.640 --> 0:55:13.080
<v Speaker 13>that there was a possibility. She says that it crossed

0:55:13.120 --> 0:55:15.600
<v Speaker 13>her mind that there could have been some foraged mushrooms

0:55:15.640 --> 0:55:18.400
<v Speaker 13>in that mix, that she could have they could have

0:55:18.400 --> 0:55:21.680
<v Speaker 13>accidentally got mixed up. But she says she never deliberately

0:55:22.280 --> 0:55:26.400
<v Speaker 13>searched for or gathered deathcat mushrooms, that she never deliberately

0:55:26.440 --> 0:55:30.480
<v Speaker 13>put anything poisonous into this dish, and that when her

0:55:30.560 --> 0:55:33.000
<v Speaker 13>loved ones began to fall ill, she says she also

0:55:33.120 --> 0:55:36.640
<v Speaker 13>fell ill and she panicked, she says, after there was

0:55:36.680 --> 0:55:39.480
<v Speaker 13>an allegation from her estranged husband and this sort of

0:55:39.480 --> 0:55:41.640
<v Speaker 13>all crossed her mind, And she says it was in

0:55:41.680 --> 0:55:44.320
<v Speaker 13>that panic and in the concern that she might lose

0:55:44.360 --> 0:55:47.200
<v Speaker 13>her children that she got rid of her dehydrator, not

0:55:47.400 --> 0:55:50.880
<v Speaker 13>knowing that that necessarily there had been anything in this

0:55:50.960 --> 0:55:53.600
<v Speaker 13>meal that was a problem, but that she was concerned

0:55:53.760 --> 0:55:56.319
<v Speaker 13>and she sort of started to do the getting rid

0:55:56.360 --> 0:55:59.520
<v Speaker 13>of the dehydrator and then also wiping her phone. She

0:55:59.560 --> 0:56:02.719
<v Speaker 13>says she factory reset a phone because she was concerned

0:56:03.320 --> 0:56:05.640
<v Speaker 13>that there could be sort of some images on a

0:56:05.719 --> 0:56:08.960
<v Speaker 13>device of her dehydrating mushrooms. But she said she had

0:56:09.000 --> 0:56:10.920
<v Speaker 13>a love of mushrooms, and she's spoken about that a

0:56:10.920 --> 0:56:13.560
<v Speaker 13>lot on the stand, especially with her defense barrister, that

0:56:13.640 --> 0:56:17.279
<v Speaker 13>she developed this in foraging different fungi back around the

0:56:17.320 --> 0:56:20.560
<v Speaker 13>lockdown time twenty twenty, and that she had been doing

0:56:20.560 --> 0:56:23.080
<v Speaker 13>that and adding them to her food and her children's

0:56:23.120 --> 0:56:26.440
<v Speaker 13>food for some time because she did quite enjoy the

0:56:26.480 --> 0:56:28.400
<v Speaker 13>taste of mushrooms and that was just part of the

0:56:28.400 --> 0:56:31.120
<v Speaker 13>way that she cooks. But she denies that she ever

0:56:31.200 --> 0:56:33.360
<v Speaker 13>deliberately poisoned anyone.

0:56:33.719 --> 0:56:37.560
<v Speaker 3>So what lies ahead, we've got closing arguments and then

0:56:37.600 --> 0:56:38.560
<v Speaker 3>I guess deliberation.

0:56:39.600 --> 0:56:41.759
<v Speaker 13>Yeah, so the next step will be now that Aaron

0:56:41.760 --> 0:56:45.040
<v Speaker 13>Patterson has left the stand. The defense confirmed with the

0:56:45.800 --> 0:56:49.320
<v Speaker 13>judge late this week that he has closed his case,

0:56:49.400 --> 0:56:51.640
<v Speaker 13>so there's no more evidence to be called. The next

0:56:51.640 --> 0:56:53.719
<v Speaker 13>part will be those closing arguments. As you mentioned, the

0:56:53.800 --> 0:56:56.520
<v Speaker 13>jury has been told that they will take a couple

0:56:56.520 --> 0:56:59.440
<v Speaker 13>of days, possibly for both sides, so that is expected

0:56:59.480 --> 0:57:02.520
<v Speaker 13>to be a relatively lengthy time frame, and then the

0:57:02.600 --> 0:57:04.759
<v Speaker 13>judge will have to give his charge, which is the

0:57:04.760 --> 0:57:07.600
<v Speaker 13>instructions that every jury is given in every case by

0:57:07.760 --> 0:57:11.319
<v Speaker 13>the judge presiding over that as to sort of how

0:57:11.360 --> 0:57:14.600
<v Speaker 13>to read some legal elements of this case. And the

0:57:14.680 --> 0:57:17.360
<v Speaker 13>judge told the jury late this week to have a

0:57:17.400 --> 0:57:20.200
<v Speaker 13>long weekend, that there were some elements that he needed

0:57:20.240 --> 0:57:22.360
<v Speaker 13>to look at for that and between the parties, and

0:57:22.400 --> 0:57:23.920
<v Speaker 13>that the jury didn't need to be.

0:57:23.880 --> 0:57:24.400
<v Speaker 14>There for that.

0:57:24.520 --> 0:57:27.160
<v Speaker 13>So they'll come back on Monday at ten thirty and

0:57:27.520 --> 0:57:31.200
<v Speaker 13>exactly what happens next it will be the closing arguments

0:57:31.240 --> 0:57:33.880
<v Speaker 13>before the jury. As to whether that happens exactly on

0:57:33.920 --> 0:57:36.000
<v Speaker 13>Monday morning or it's a little bit later, we'll have to.

0:57:35.920 --> 0:57:36.560
<v Speaker 6>Wait and see.

0:57:36.680 --> 0:57:40.920
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So it sounds again just speculating, but if there's

0:57:41.320 --> 0:57:44.800
<v Speaker 3>two days of wrapping up from both sides, the jury

0:57:45.080 --> 0:57:48.680
<v Speaker 3>may not even begin their deliberations until the week after

0:57:48.960 --> 0:57:50.520
<v Speaker 3>next that's got to be a possibility.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, so the jury has been told a week or

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<v Speaker 13>so ago by the judge of these sort of estimated lengths,

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<v Speaker 13>and he very much said, I don't want to put

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<v Speaker 13>an exact timeframe on it, you know, obviously things can

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<v Speaker 13>always change at different times, but yeah, we are expecting

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<v Speaker 13>it to be quite a few days.

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<v Speaker 7>So it could still be.

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<v Speaker 13>Another week before the jury go out and deliberate. And

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<v Speaker 13>they've certainly been told by the judge already. But whenever

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<v Speaker 13>they do that, that is entirely he said, the shoot

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<v Speaker 13>who's on the other sort? For how long they take

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<v Speaker 13>compared to how long these other elements have taken. So

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<v Speaker 13>this all could be going on for quite a while yet.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you can listen to the Mushroom Trials, Say Grace

0:58:24.840 --> 0:58:28.520
<v Speaker 3>wherever you get your podcasts. It's a nine podcast. It's brilliant.

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<v Speaker 3>Penelope Lish, thank you so much for your time.

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<v Speaker 13>Thank you very much for having me.

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<v Speaker 3>Not at all great to talk to you. Twenty nine

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<v Speaker 3>to eleven o'clock now quickly before I get to Simon

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<v Speaker 3>Stephenson and Aska tradeye by the way one three one

0:58:39.600 --> 0:58:41.480
<v Speaker 3>eight seven three if you've got a question about your

0:58:41.480 --> 0:58:46.320
<v Speaker 3>DIY gear. Police have changed a man for allegedly making

0:58:46.400 --> 0:58:51.800
<v Speaker 3>death threats and sending abusive messages to Newcastle winger James Schiller.

0:58:52.760 --> 0:58:55.480
<v Speaker 3>Shiller was a victim of horrific abuse on his social

0:58:55.520 --> 0:58:59.720
<v Speaker 3>media account following Newcastle's win against the Seagulls last week

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<v Speaker 3>and frankly, I'm not going to read what the messages say,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's absolutely appalling. Late mccrorarie Detectives launched an investigation

0:59:12.640 --> 0:59:17.680
<v Speaker 3>into the incident after Schiller was rattled by police by

0:59:17.720 --> 0:59:21.480
<v Speaker 3>the abuse. I would say understandingly having the chance to

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<v Speaker 3>read it. It led to police arresting a twenty year

0:59:24.320 --> 0:59:28.040
<v Speaker 3>old man yesterday afternoon. The man front at Belmont Police Station,

0:59:28.280 --> 0:59:34.760
<v Speaker 3>charged with the use of a carriage service to menace, harass, offend.

0:59:35.160 --> 0:59:38.400
<v Speaker 3>He was granted conditional bail. He'll be at Belmont Local

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<v Speaker 3>Court Wednesday, July thirty. Awful stuff. North Brisbane District Police

0:59:46.240 --> 0:59:51.680
<v Speaker 3>have charged thirty six people with multiple offenses, including unlawful

0:59:51.720 --> 0:59:55.840
<v Speaker 3>possession of weapons in a policing blitz across the gateway

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<v Speaker 3>as part of Operation Brisbane Safe Yesterday. Officers, Highway Patrol,

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<v Speaker 3>Crime Squad members, General Duties officers joined forces to target

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<v Speaker 3>property offenses and knife crime. Throughout the operation, police conducted

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<v Speaker 3>forty seven wandings, detecting one flick knife, sixty six street checks,

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<v Speaker 3>three hundred ninety six random breath tests, three random drug tests,

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<v Speaker 3>defending detecting five people driving under the influence, and issued

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<v Speaker 3>twenty nine traffic infringement notices. During the operation, a tactical

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<v Speaker 3>Crime Squad charged a man with eleven offenses, including unlawful

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<v Speaker 3>possession of a weapon. Following a stolen vehicle interception at Kedron,

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<v Speaker 3>officers detected a Kia alleged to have been stolen from

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<v Speaker 3>Bourbongary between May twenty five and June four. Police followed

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<v Speaker 3>the sedan to a gimpy road car parking Kedron. They

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<v Speaker 3>intercepted the vehicle and arrested a twenty seven year old man.

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<v Speaker 3>It'll be alleged the man reversed into the police car

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<v Speaker 3>before surrendered for arrest without further incident. Police will further

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<v Speaker 3>allege to search of the vehicle located a bag with

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<v Speaker 3>a homemade firearm, ammunition, drugs and drug implements. There are

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<v Speaker 3>various other charges and information there, but that operation that

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<v Speaker 3>Policing Blitz, Operation Brisbane Safe. Thirty six people charged now

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<v Speaker 3>on weekends. Asker training thanks to not Be Kitchens since

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen thirty nine and with Sydney's largest kitchen showrooms and

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<v Speaker 3>free in home design surveys. Simon Stephenson's in the studio

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<v Speaker 3>one three, one eight seven three to ask him a

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<v Speaker 3>question on the open line. Any diy question you have,

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<v Speaker 3>No job is too big or too small and there's

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<v Speaker 3>no silly questions here. One three one eight seven three.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi mate, you well, I'm good mate, yourself very well, indeed,

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<v Speaker 3>very well. Indeed we're going to start today by talking

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<v Speaker 3>about painting difficult surfaces for example a tile, yep, and

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<v Speaker 3>other things. I mean you hear about people and we've

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<v Speaker 3>talked about it before. Freshening the kitchen cupboards. So look,

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<v Speaker 3>get you've got to use the right paint would be

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<v Speaker 3>the right place to start.

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<v Speaker 15>The right paint has a lot to do with it

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<v Speaker 15>and using a good quality paint, using something that you

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<v Speaker 15>can afford, the best you can afford, because you know

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<v Speaker 15>the labor doing it all and all, the preparation is

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<v Speaker 15>the is the costly, most expensive part about it, and

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<v Speaker 15>the bit that takes you the longest, So using the

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<v Speaker 15>best quality paint. But a friend of mine sent me

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<v Speaker 15>some photos this week of a bathroom that you know,

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<v Speaker 15>was painted by somebody, and the paint was all peeling

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<v Speaker 15>off the tiles and things like that, and I just said, look,

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<v Speaker 15>most importantly, where you painting areas like that. It could

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<v Speaker 15>be a kitchen, could be a bathroom. Whatever is that preparation.

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<v Speaker 15>It's sanding surfaces and cleaning them thoroughly, because no paint's

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<v Speaker 15>going to stick over soap scum, greasy fingerprints. You know,

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<v Speaker 15>you might not see what's on that surface. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 15>there's definitely something there.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 15>Handrails, I couldn't tell you the amount of times I've

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<v Speaker 15>gone to handrails that people have painted over. You know,

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<v Speaker 15>people walk up and down those handrails with their hands

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<v Speaker 15>over them all the time. There's so much debris on there,

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<v Speaker 15>it's just insane. So yeah, spend the time sand it,

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<v Speaker 15>clean it, and then do that preparation right from the

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<v Speaker 15>get go, and you shouldn't have a problem as long

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<v Speaker 15>as you're using the right paint.

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<v Speaker 3>So with a tile, and we talk here in nor

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<v Speaker 3>Glass advertised with it's about nor cleanep So with a tile,

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<v Speaker 3>is that something you would typically sand first? Or are

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<v Speaker 3>there paints that have really strong adhesion to something like

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<v Speaker 3>a time.

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<v Speaker 8>Look, they do have strong adhesion.

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<v Speaker 15>The one we use from nor Glass is their ship

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<v Speaker 15>shaped primer.

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<v Speaker 8>It's a two pack primer.

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<v Speaker 15>They've also got a single pack primer as well that

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<v Speaker 15>sticks really really well. Paints have come a long way

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<v Speaker 15>in the past sort of ten twenty years, but again, nothing,

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<v Speaker 15>even those good quality paints that stick real well won't

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<v Speaker 15>stick to a surface if it's not prepared properly. So

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<v Speaker 15>with a tile, give it a light sand. You're not

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<v Speaker 15>going to scratch the surface a whole lot, but give

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<v Speaker 15>it a light sand anyway, with a sanding sponge or

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<v Speaker 15>a really fine grit wet and dry sandpaper and then

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<v Speaker 15>clean it thoroughly. And that nor Clean really good. And

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<v Speaker 15>you change your cloths regularly so you're not using a

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<v Speaker 15>cloth that's got all the dirt on it that you've

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<v Speaker 15>just washed off, and just keep using that same one

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<v Speaker 15>until it's black or something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a great cloth. I've had it for ten years

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<v Speaker 3>still does. Actually it's working well on the handrail. This

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<v Speaker 3>is self indulgent Luki at play here, because I've got

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<v Speaker 3>a handrail now, a timber one. Is that something that

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<v Speaker 3>you would clean with the nor Clean product or doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>need to be that. I don't want to say harsh,

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<v Speaker 3>but something.

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, look nor Clean clean or even a sugar soap,

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<v Speaker 15>you know, sugar soaping it from the hardware store, paint stores.

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<v Speaker 15>You know, sugar soap's been around for many years, and

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<v Speaker 15>it will break down that grease as well, and you

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<v Speaker 15>can give it a really good clean and then rinse

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<v Speaker 15>it and make sure you get all the sugar soap

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<v Speaker 15>debris off from that as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Not that I have early hands, but there might be

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<v Speaker 3>someone in my place that does get it. Peter, Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>good morning morning.

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<v Speaker 9>Look Simon, I have a place in Saint Susey with

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<v Speaker 9>the aluminium railey. It's few years old and the black

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<v Speaker 9>color which was originally powder coated on the aluminium in

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<v Speaker 9>places where they welded the joint, that's got no color there.

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<v Speaker 9>Can you please tell me what very much what you

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<v Speaker 9>do is and how can I either spray flat black

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<v Speaker 9>or brush flat black on? And none of these places.

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<v Speaker 15>All right, And why are flat black? I wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 15>using on a railing outside. It's aluminum, you're saying. I

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<v Speaker 15>would think you should using a satin finish and not.

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<v Speaker 8>A flat black. So yeah, so use a saturn.

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<v Speaker 15>Look that there's lots of spray cans now that will

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<v Speaker 15>go directly onto a surface like that, and Rustolium do

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<v Speaker 15>make one. So if you go to your local hardware store,

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<v Speaker 15>look at the spray cans. And I used one a

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<v Speaker 15>few weeks ago that had like a dial on it

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<v Speaker 15>and you could change the setting of the spray not

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<v Speaker 15>on your spray can and it was fantastic. So you know,

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<v Speaker 15>Rustolium do make some good products there. If you want

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<v Speaker 15>to brush it, then I'd be going to something like

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<v Speaker 15>the nor Glass products as well. You can look at that,

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<v Speaker 15>but there's a few different options there cleaning, sanding, and

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<v Speaker 15>preparing that surface first, making sure there's no oxidization with

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<v Speaker 15>that aluminum. But then you can go ahead and with

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<v Speaker 15>either a spray can or a brush.

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<v Speaker 3>Is well, let's ask is spraying easier, quicker give you

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<v Speaker 3>a better result?

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<v Speaker 8>Look, you're going to get a really nice result with

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<v Speaker 8>a spray can. You know it's just you've got to

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<v Speaker 8>mask up.

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<v Speaker 15>You've got to make sure that you're protecting the surfaces

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<v Speaker 15>around you, of course, and definitely don't do it on

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<v Speaker 15>a windy day, you know. Just you've got to pick

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<v Speaker 15>the right time and work out whether it's going to

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<v Speaker 15>be easier to do that with a spray can.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, good luck you, Peter. Morning Sandra. How can

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<v Speaker 3>we help you?

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<v Speaker 7>Good morning?

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<v Speaker 16>Look, Good morning, Simon.

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<v Speaker 14>Morning Simon.

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<v Speaker 16>Last month I heard you talking about the nor Glass

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<v Speaker 16>product for kitchen bench tops, and I'm just revamping my

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<v Speaker 16>kitchen and I bought the nor Glass product, the to

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<v Speaker 16>pack primer and the nor Sane finished code. I've painted

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<v Speaker 16>many things over the years, but I would like a

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<v Speaker 16>professional painter, one experienced with this. I did send you

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<v Speaker 16>a couple of messages, one through your website and then

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<v Speaker 16>one through your email over the last few weeks, but

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<v Speaker 16>I haven't received the reply yet.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know. It might have gone into my spam.

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<v Speaker 15>I will check those emails and I will respond to

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<v Speaker 15>those today for you.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, So but.

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<v Speaker 15>Look, I'll see if I can find somebody has your

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<v Speaker 15>emails told me what area you live in?

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<v Speaker 16>Yes, I live in Croydon.

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<v Speaker 15>Park, Okay, I will I will check those emails today

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<v Speaker 15>and see I'll get back to you.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know what, Sandra, just on that point I

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<v Speaker 3>think she makes and you and I have talked about

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<v Speaker 3>this off air. I had to be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a bit hesitant to use two pack yep only

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<v Speaker 3>because I don't want to screw up the mixing of it.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know you normally take the lid off and

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<v Speaker 3>you know your paints after preparing. Of course, yes, but

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<v Speaker 3>the two pack is a challenge for I think anyone,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of di wives. Robert got that wrong? Is

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<v Speaker 3>that just Sandra?

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<v Speaker 15>Look, I think I think it's really important to just

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<v Speaker 15>sit down, spend ten minutes and read the instructions because

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<v Speaker 15>and especially like go onto the nor Glass website and

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<v Speaker 15>look at the PDFs that they have and they'll give

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<v Speaker 15>you all the information about mixing. And as long as

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<v Speaker 15>you're mixing, the ratio is right and usually it's like

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<v Speaker 15>a two part of one to a one part of

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<v Speaker 15>the other. And as long as you're measuring, and you

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<v Speaker 15>can buy measuring cups that actually have the markers on

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<v Speaker 15>them so you know where to fill to and then

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<v Speaker 15>when you stir, you stir the product up, you let

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<v Speaker 15>it sit for ten minutes before you start to use it,

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<v Speaker 15>and then give it another stir, and that gives that

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<v Speaker 15>time to react to the product.

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<v Speaker 8>And the most.

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<v Speaker 15>Important thing is wearing respirators and making sure that you

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<v Speaker 15>protect yourself that way. But look, applying the paint itself

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<v Speaker 15>is not really any more difficult than painting with a

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<v Speaker 15>regular water based paint or something. Is just that time

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<v Speaker 15>to sit down and mixing and getting it right that way.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think if you've got, say you've got a

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<v Speaker 3>little area to do and you end up with a

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<v Speaker 3>leader of paint and you want to think, now, how

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<v Speaker 3>do I keep half of this? I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 3>even need half of this because you know some of

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<v Speaker 3>the some of the products aren't aren't cheap, No, because

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<v Speaker 3>they're very good. Absolutely can you do that? Use half

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<v Speaker 3>of it, use half of it and keep half of them?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, absolutely you can.

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<v Speaker 15>So yeah, you just again you're mixing the amount you

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<v Speaker 15>need with a measuring cup.

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<v Speaker 8>That's right, the measuring cup, so you don't use it.

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<v Speaker 15>And when you put the lids back on, make sure

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<v Speaker 15>you clean the little grooves out where the lid goes

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<v Speaker 15>back on, so they're not full of paint, so just

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<v Speaker 15>and don't contaminate the two products, you know, make sure

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<v Speaker 15>you just clean and just take your time.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it possible? And we've got to take a break.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry to occupy this time, but I think everyone

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<v Speaker 3>would have this problem. Is it possible to pour a

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<v Speaker 3>can of paint into a roller tray without it going

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<v Speaker 3>dripping down the side of the can. What's the trick?

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<v Speaker 13>Look?

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<v Speaker 3>Not really.

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<v Speaker 15>I think the quickest way is be quick about tipping

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<v Speaker 15>it and quick about the returners. Well, right, so it's

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<v Speaker 15>not like you know, if you take your time, you

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<v Speaker 15>think about it, you're tipping your can of paint. If

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<v Speaker 15>you go back slowly, it's just going to run right

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<v Speaker 15>down the side. So just be a little bit faster

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<v Speaker 15>at both right and obviously taking your time at it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, it's twelve to eleven. Back in a second. Just

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of texts before we get back to callers.

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<v Speaker 3>Mitch tells us the rustolium spray is amazing, but you

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<v Speaker 3>shouldn't mix it with other brands. So if you put

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<v Speaker 3>it clear over due lux is that your experience is

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<v Speaker 3>serving Mitchell, that's.

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<v Speaker 15>It, because look, when you don't know what the component

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<v Speaker 15>is that makes up that spray cand So it might

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<v Speaker 15>not be compatible with the undercoat you use, and it

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<v Speaker 15>could fry what I call fry the paint. So if

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<v Speaker 15>you use an undercoat that's incompatible and you use something

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<v Speaker 15>else over the top of it, the paint can all

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<v Speaker 15>like it fries up and becomes all crinkly.

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<v Speaker 8>It just means the.

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<v Speaker 15>Thinner that's used in the top coat is reacting with

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<v Speaker 15>the paint that's underneath. So try to keep with a

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<v Speaker 15>product that's made by the same company.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, now, Rosie's there, roll, oh Rosie, what's your

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<v Speaker 3>question for the boy? What song was that? Jon? Armor Training?

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<v Speaker 14>Bye?

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<v Speaker 3>Rosy called a lunatic? Sorry, what's the question.

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<v Speaker 7>I've got a glass sliding door that's not sliding very well.

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<v Speaker 7>It's causing like fiction on the bottom of the track.

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<v Speaker 7>So I was wondering is there something that could be

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<v Speaker 7>fixed or would I need to have the door replaced.

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<v Speaker 15>So generally it's a quick, quite a simple fix. If

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<v Speaker 15>you've got somebody that's handy in the house, you literally

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<v Speaker 15>lift the door up. It will come off the track itself, so.

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<v Speaker 8>You get hold of either side of the door.

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<v Speaker 15>Two people is handy lift the door, pop it off

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<v Speaker 15>the track and turn it on its side, and there

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<v Speaker 15>will be two wheels, one either side, and it's generally

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<v Speaker 15>one screw to undo that wheel. And you can go

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<v Speaker 15>down the hardware and buy a matching wheel exactly the

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<v Speaker 15>same and just pop it straight back in place.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's a really.

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<v Speaker 8>Quite simple job to do, so not that difficult.

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<v Speaker 15>If you go online look at some videos that you

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<v Speaker 15>know show you how to do it.

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<v Speaker 8>It's it's a really really easy job.

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<v Speaker 7>All right, Thank you so much for that.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Rosie. And just so that people don't think

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<v Speaker 3>I am a leone to tick the song I was

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<v Speaker 3>referring to, see, I used to be a jock in

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<v Speaker 3>the old days. Hands good morning, How can we help you?

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<v Speaker 3>Good morning morning.

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<v Speaker 17>I've got a quick I've got two questions. I'll ask

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<v Speaker 17>mine because I think my mate's can to ask and

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<v Speaker 17>be calling you. I've got a soul of battery that

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<v Speaker 17>install so and they don't follow up and won't back

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<v Speaker 17>you up. So I just need a reference if you

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<v Speaker 17>can on a solar electrician that's relocated battery.

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<v Speaker 15>Okay, what what area are you in?

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<v Speaker 8>Rose in Roselle?

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<v Speaker 15>All right, if you go to my website, which is

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<v Speaker 15>Simon's House dot com dot are you. Look at good

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<v Speaker 15>Day Electric and Solar. So that's all they do, and

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<v Speaker 15>they're absolutely fantastic. They can help you with all of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Good Day Electric and Solar hands That line is a

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<v Speaker 3>bit dodgy, my friend, so I hope that answers the question.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for getting in touch. On the text, David says,

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<v Speaker 3>I've got laminade type covering on a couple of older

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<v Speaker 3>kitchen cupboards, lifting around the edges, catching on cupboards when opening.

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<v Speaker 3>Best way to stick down these edges please.

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<v Speaker 15>Using a contact adhesive and you'll put glue on both surfaces,

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<v Speaker 15>allow it to sit for about twenty minutes, and then

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<v Speaker 15>push them together and it will glue instantly. And that's

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<v Speaker 15>what they generally use for those edging.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, too easy, okay. You can follow all of

1:14:49.760 --> 1:14:52.760
<v Speaker 3>Simon's work on his website Simon's House dot com dot

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<v Speaker 3>are you. If you've got a question that occurs when

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<v Speaker 3>Simon's not here, you can certainly contact him through Women's

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<v Speaker 3>House dot com dot au. Good to see you mate,

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<v Speaker 3>Good to see you mate, See you next week much.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll do absolutely beauty, Simon Stephenson it's almost admitted to.

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<v Speaker 3>Eleven o'clock one three one eight seven three is the

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<v Speaker 3>open line number here. Let me delve into the emails

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<v Speaker 3>that we have from listeners. Grahame's written to me about

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<v Speaker 3>elbows fiance. Thank you mate, We don't do that stuff understandably.

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<v Speaker 3>And thank you Peter for your contribution. It's difficult sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>to tune into your show via the internet. You get

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<v Speaker 3>swamp with ads. It seemed to impede the station broadcast.

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<v Speaker 3>A listener from Aubrey. Well, I'll refer that to the

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<v Speaker 3>appropriate genie I and John. We might be able to

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<v Speaker 3>get a solution. Thank you for having a crack, Luke.

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<v Speaker 3>I've long given up on our once great country's future

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<v Speaker 3>at eighty six or mon't be around well. Conference mentors

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<v Speaker 3>to see will be aware of the outcome. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>look promising ed. We all love to be we all

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<v Speaker 3>love to be positive, but there's yeah. Thank you mate, Colin,

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<v Speaker 3>says Greg Sheridan. Mentioned in the paper today Australia voting

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<v Speaker 3>with Canada and Norway regarding Palestine, fails to mention that

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<v Speaker 3>the UK and New Zealand also voted with them their

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<v Speaker 3>Commonwealth country. Sometimes it's what is left out in these

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<v Speaker 3>discussions that matters. Fair point Colin, Thank you for getting

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<v Speaker 3>in touch and the latest news is next.

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<v Speaker 1>Across Australia.

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<v Speaker 8>It's back to weekends with look.

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<v Speaker 3>Grant, Hello there, thank you for having a sign on

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<v Speaker 3>this Saturday, the fourteenth of June. Hope today is going

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<v Speaker 3>swimmingly if that's what you'd like to be going. A

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<v Speaker 3>man has been charged with high range drink driving after

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<v Speaker 3>a single vehicle crash at Stanmore in Sydney this morning

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<v Speaker 3>just after midnight. A key sportage was traveling along Stand

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<v Speaker 3>Moore Road Stand will It left the roadway hit an

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<v Speaker 3>electric pole. Officers were notified and attended. Thirty seven year

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<v Speaker 3>old man subjected to a roadside breath test that returned

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<v Speaker 3>a positive result zero point one five seven. That would

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<v Speaker 3>be three times. Allegedly. He was issued at court attendance

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<v Speaker 3>NOTUS for drive with high range PCA albeit Newtown Local

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<v Speaker 3>Court on Monday twenty first of July, and no one

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<v Speaker 3>was injured during the incident. Look, you know, we're only human,

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<v Speaker 3>As Billy Joel famously said, we're supposed to make mistakes.

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<v Speaker 3>But how long does it take for the message to

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<v Speaker 3>get through?

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<v Speaker 10>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>There are times where you might be enjoying the allegedly

1:17:54.520 --> 1:17:59.000
<v Speaker 3>it might be enjoying the beverage. And you know if

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<v Speaker 3>you have a couple that you've got to call time. Okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>I enjoyed the bed rich and the price I pay

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<v Speaker 3>is I simply can't put the key in the ignition

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<v Speaker 3>and drive, is it? How's that not easily understood by everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>Quantus has been crowned the world's safest airline, with its

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<v Speaker 3>pilots considered the best trained, most disciplined, and most professional

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<v Speaker 3>in the industry. The study conducted by forty two kft

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<v Speaker 3>dot com analyzing one hundred and forty two airline carriers

1:18:31.560 --> 1:18:35.719
<v Speaker 3>across the globe. Quantus was named the leader for airline safety.

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<v Speaker 3>Editor in chief Jeffrey Thomas good Man. Jeffrey said the

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<v Speaker 3>airline safety performance was unmatched according to independent orders. He

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<v Speaker 3>says Quantus pilots are considered the best train most disciplined,

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<v Speaker 3>and most professional. The airline has led nearly every significant

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<v Speaker 3>operational safety advance over the past sixty years. The second

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<v Speaker 3>safest airline Qatar, followed by Air New Zealand, Cathay Pacific

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<v Speaker 3>and Emirates Virgin Australia. Was named the sixth safest, with

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<v Speaker 3>Jetstar named the second safest low cost airline. HK Express

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<v Speaker 3>the leader in the top five low cost airline groups,

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<v Speaker 3>followed by Jetstar, Easy Jet, Ryanair and Air Asia. Mister

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<v Speaker 3>Thomas said the top safest airlines were separated by narrow margins.

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<v Speaker 3>He says, unlike traditional safety assessments that rely on certification checkboxes,

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<v Speaker 3>his site uses a dynamic data driven methodology quantas. Australia's

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<v Speaker 3>recorded its best ever gender equality ranking in a major

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<v Speaker 3>global report, but the government's being warned not to restaurans

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<v Speaker 3>laurels I saw this on social media yesterday. Tanya Plibersek

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<v Speaker 3>was saying how good After facing twenty fourth the year prior.

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<v Speaker 3>In the World Economic Forum's Global Gender Gap Report, Australia

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<v Speaker 3>has jumped eleven places and is now thirteenth out of

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred and forty eight countries. It is Australia's best

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<v Speaker 3>results since the report began in two thousand and six,

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<v Speaker 3>and a far cry from our record low fiftieth place

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty twenty one. That was when that evil Scott

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<v Speaker 3>Morrison was Prime Minister. No worries. The ranking jump is

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<v Speaker 3>attributed to improvements in female political empowerment, economic participation and

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<v Speaker 3>educational attainment. Australia ranked well in education, with joint first

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<v Speaker 3>in literacy rates, primary education enrollment and university enrollment. Minister

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<v Speaker 3>for Women Katie Gallagher said it was a fantastic result

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<v Speaker 3>when the alban Easy Labor government was first elected in

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty two, she said said that improving the lives

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<v Speaker 3>of women and girls was one of our key focuses

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<v Speaker 3>and today's was old our best ever shows we're delivering

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<v Speaker 3>on that commitment, said Senator Gallagher. Well, once again we

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<v Speaker 3>look great on the global stage. If we could just

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<v Speaker 3>afford to pay our bills occasionally, that would just make

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<v Speaker 3>things so much better. Hashtag just saying. Now it's coming

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<v Speaker 3>up to thirteen after eleven o'clock. It's a time each

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<v Speaker 3>Saturday where we catch up with Leith van Onslin see

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<v Speaker 3>if economists at the NB Fund NB Super from Macrobusiness

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<v Speaker 3>dot com dot au. We are asking of late Leith

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<v Speaker 3>to come up with a economic clown or economic champion.

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<v Speaker 3>Each week. We've had a couple of clowns. We're about

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<v Speaker 3>to get to a champion in a moment or two,

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<v Speaker 3>but not before we get to talk about Australia facing

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<v Speaker 3>energy armageddon? How am my friend? I hope you will?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>Did I work? Yeah? Well awkward DWN your face might

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<v Speaker 6>about yourself?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, not too bad at all, not too bad at all.

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<v Speaker 3>The question of our energy crisis, and it is, I

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<v Speaker 3>think in the minds of many crisis. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>where it was during the election campaign. I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to revisit that at all, but I mean, what's going

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<v Speaker 3>on here? Is it simply the fact that the government

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<v Speaker 3>collects tax from workers and gives it back to workers

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<v Speaker 3>and the way of some kind of assistance to pay

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<v Speaker 3>their power bills? Is that why people don't see the

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<v Speaker 3>train coming or what? Is it? Because we're in an

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<v Speaker 3>ale of a mess?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh?

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<v Speaker 6>Absolutely mate. So anyone who pays an electricy bill or

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<v Speaker 6>a gas bill knows that that knows that your bills

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<v Speaker 6>are surged. And the only reason why we've had any

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<v Speaker 6>relief is because the government stled out billions of dollars

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<v Speaker 6>of our own money, like basically returned our taxes in

1:22:48.760 --> 1:22:51.599
<v Speaker 6>short term subsidies. But it's not fixing the underlying problem. Now,

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<v Speaker 6>as you all know, the Albanese governments set a ridiculously

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<v Speaker 6>unreal realistic target of having eighty two percent of Australias

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<v Speaker 6>electricity generated by renewables by twenty thirty Now, if we're

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<v Speaker 6>going to do that, it means we obviously need to

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<v Speaker 6>shut down our coal fire generation pretty much.

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<v Speaker 10>Now.

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<v Speaker 6>Some of Australia's states have gone even further. So you know,

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<v Speaker 6>while I live in the clown state of Victoria, Victoria's

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<v Speaker 6>legislator ninety five percent renewal easy target by twenty thirty five,

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<v Speaker 6>so that's just in a decade. South Australia has set

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<v Speaker 6>a one hundred percent renewable energy target by twenty twenty seven,

1:23:23.720 --> 1:23:27.800
<v Speaker 6>so that's in two years right now. These targets are

1:23:27.800 --> 1:23:33.080
<v Speaker 6>completely you know, are logical. They defy reality. And the

1:23:33.120 --> 1:23:35.759
<v Speaker 6>reason for that, Luke, is that renewable energy is weather

1:23:35.800 --> 1:23:39.559
<v Speaker 6>dependent and it's intermittent and it cannot be relied upon

1:23:39.920 --> 1:23:43.519
<v Speaker 6>to provide power whenever it's needed. And we actually witnessed

1:23:43.520 --> 1:23:46.439
<v Speaker 6>that this week because Eastern Australia, as is so often

1:23:46.520 --> 1:23:48.639
<v Speaker 6>during winter. It happened last year in New South Wales,

1:23:49.600 --> 1:23:52.800
<v Speaker 6>the entire Eastern Australia, so talking you know, Brisbane, New

1:23:52.880 --> 1:23:58.280
<v Speaker 6>South Wales, Victoria, South Australia and act it experienced a

1:23:58.320 --> 1:24:00.479
<v Speaker 6>wind drought and it lasted for days on the end.

1:24:00.720 --> 1:24:02.439
<v Speaker 6>Now what a wind drought is, As I said, this

1:24:02.520 --> 1:24:04.800
<v Speaker 6>often happens during winter. It's when you basically have very

1:24:04.840 --> 1:24:08.320
<v Speaker 6>low wind, which means you get very low wind wind

1:24:08.360 --> 1:24:12.120
<v Speaker 6>generation from wind turbines. And this is coincided with obviously

1:24:12.160 --> 1:24:13.960
<v Speaker 6>being winter where you got shorter days and you get

1:24:14.000 --> 1:24:17.360
<v Speaker 6>less sunshine, so you obviously get less solar. Now let's

1:24:17.360 --> 1:24:18.800
<v Speaker 6>you get some data here which have pulled off the

1:24:18.880 --> 1:24:24.559
<v Speaker 6>National Energy Market which is basically the federal government's website

1:24:24.560 --> 1:24:27.800
<v Speaker 6>which tracks where all energy comes from. And it showed

1:24:27.800 --> 1:24:30.040
<v Speaker 6>that in the forty eight hours between eleventh and twelfth

1:24:30.040 --> 1:24:31.240
<v Speaker 6>for June, and to be honest with that, I could

1:24:31.280 --> 1:24:33.240
<v Speaker 6>have picked the twelfth or thirteenth of June. But you know,

1:24:33.280 --> 1:24:35.799
<v Speaker 6>when I was writing this up, a good of replaced

1:24:35.840 --> 1:24:37.720
<v Speaker 6>this with another set which said exactly the same thing.

1:24:38.360 --> 1:24:41.320
<v Speaker 6>The wind and solar combined over that forty eight hours

1:24:41.960 --> 1:24:45.120
<v Speaker 6>provided only fourteen percent of Australias electricity generation because we

1:24:45.200 --> 1:24:48.639
<v Speaker 6>had the wind rout and battery STORYGE only provided one percent, right,

1:24:48.680 --> 1:24:52.000
<v Speaker 6>so it's fifteen percent if you count batteries. Now. Fossil fuels,

1:24:52.000 --> 1:24:53.439
<v Speaker 6>on the other hand, because we are in the middle

1:24:53.439 --> 1:24:57.400
<v Speaker 6>of winter, provided seventy four percent of Eastern Australias electricity

1:24:57.479 --> 1:25:00.880
<v Speaker 6>generation and the forty eight hour period. Now that that

1:25:01.479 --> 1:25:03.720
<v Speaker 6>is coal sixty percent and gas. I've left hydra out

1:25:03.760 --> 1:25:05.960
<v Speaker 6>of there because hydro you can't we can't scale it up.

1:25:06.000 --> 1:25:09.160
<v Speaker 6>It's just basically it's there every day. But the fact

1:25:09.160 --> 1:25:11.479
<v Speaker 6>matter is that the federal government wants to get rid

1:25:11.479 --> 1:25:13.519
<v Speaker 6>of our coal and gas, well coal through to a

1:25:13.560 --> 1:25:15.920
<v Speaker 6>pronominally in the next few years, and replace it with

1:25:16.000 --> 1:25:19.800
<v Speaker 6>this renewable stuff. But the renewable stuff doesn't supply when

1:25:19.880 --> 1:25:22.719
<v Speaker 6>we need it. And this was shown this week and

1:25:22.920 --> 1:25:25.160
<v Speaker 6>for example, at seven to fifty pm on Thursday night,

1:25:25.840 --> 1:25:29.120
<v Speaker 6>when obviously the sun had gone down, only three percent

1:25:29.160 --> 1:25:33.360
<v Speaker 6>of it the whole Eastern Australia's electricity generation was came

1:25:33.400 --> 1:25:37.439
<v Speaker 6>from wind. The solar was zero obviously because there's no sun,

1:25:37.600 --> 1:25:39.720
<v Speaker 6>and batteries only provided two percent. This is a seven

1:25:39.720 --> 1:25:43.160
<v Speaker 6>to fifty This is a snapshot. Meanwhile, coal fifty four percent,

1:25:43.240 --> 1:25:47.240
<v Speaker 6>gas twenty three percent combined to contributed seventy seven percent

1:25:47.240 --> 1:25:50.960
<v Speaker 6>of Eastern Australias generation. So theilarious thing here, Luke is

1:25:51.360 --> 1:25:54.200
<v Speaker 6>earlier this week in Victoria under I'm using Victoria obviously

1:25:54.240 --> 1:25:57.439
<v Speaker 6>not talking to Victorian audience, but this is relevant. Victoria

1:25:57.560 --> 1:26:00.719
<v Speaker 6>experienced an unexpected outage at one of its old coal

1:26:00.760 --> 1:26:04.400
<v Speaker 6>fire generators and it basically led to the renewables lobby

1:26:04.439 --> 1:26:08.640
<v Speaker 6>coming out saying, see, coal's unreliable. Therefore we need to

1:26:08.640 --> 1:26:11.320
<v Speaker 6>expand renewables and to get off coal because coal cannot

1:26:11.320 --> 1:26:14.360
<v Speaker 6>be trusted because there was a breakdown. Right, So there's

1:26:14.400 --> 1:26:17.280
<v Speaker 6>this outfit I call them a propaganda said renew economy.

1:26:17.320 --> 1:26:19.639
<v Speaker 6>They just write, let's garbage about renewables all the time

1:26:19.640 --> 1:26:23.719
<v Speaker 6>and just integrate any sort of fossil fills. And they

1:26:24.320 --> 1:26:28.679
<v Speaker 6>wrote an article which said, quote the your lawn coal

1:26:28.720 --> 1:26:33.200
<v Speaker 6>plant outage quote underscores the urgent need to build enough

1:26:33.200 --> 1:26:35.880
<v Speaker 6>solar wind and storage to replace them, and hoglights the

1:26:35.920 --> 1:26:39.599
<v Speaker 6>folly of sweating aging coal assets past the years by dates.

1:26:39.600 --> 1:26:42.920
<v Speaker 6>That's a direct quote. Now. Hilariously, when this article came out,

1:26:43.560 --> 1:26:47.040
<v Speaker 6>the muppet who wrote this wrote it during a wind

1:26:47.120 --> 1:26:51.200
<v Speaker 6>rout when the renewables clap crashed almost zero and they

1:26:51.200 --> 1:26:54.240
<v Speaker 6>couldn't see the Yeah, they couldn't see the irony that

1:26:54.240 --> 1:26:56.960
<v Speaker 6>they're calling coal unreliable because there was a outage one

1:26:57.000 --> 1:26:59.920
<v Speaker 6>of the generators. When literally we had a wind drought

1:27:00.840 --> 1:27:05.000
<v Speaker 6>and wind the solar combined, we're providing buger or electricity.

1:27:05.760 --> 1:27:08.440
<v Speaker 6>And the reality here, Luke, is that the most unreliable

1:27:08.439 --> 1:27:11.480
<v Speaker 6>part of the energy system is actually intermittent weather dependent renewables,

1:27:11.520 --> 1:27:14.280
<v Speaker 6>because the only work when the sun shines, the wind blows,

1:27:14.840 --> 1:27:16.960
<v Speaker 6>and we never know when the wind's going to blow,

1:27:17.320 --> 1:27:19.200
<v Speaker 6>and the sun only shines through the middle of day injury,

1:27:19.280 --> 1:27:21.320
<v Speaker 6>and if it's overcast you get very little of it.

1:27:22.040 --> 1:27:25.719
<v Speaker 6>Yet yet the government and these lobby groups and everyone

1:27:25.960 --> 1:27:27.360
<v Speaker 6>are trying to say we need to get rid of

1:27:27.479 --> 1:27:32.559
<v Speaker 6>us stable baseload power and just basically rely on the wind,

1:27:32.760 --> 1:27:36.759
<v Speaker 6>which may or may not arrive and the sun, which

1:27:37.040 --> 1:27:41.840
<v Speaker 6>obviously during winter is pretty unreliable. And these same people

1:27:41.880 --> 1:27:45.320
<v Speaker 6>won't admit it that aging coal fire power plants remain

1:27:45.400 --> 1:27:47.920
<v Speaker 6>the foundation of the country's electricity supply, and that was

1:27:47.960 --> 1:27:52.280
<v Speaker 6>proven this week when renewables failed and they could not

1:27:52.360 --> 1:27:56.400
<v Speaker 6>cover the gap. It's crazy stuff, mate, And so what's

1:27:56.400 --> 1:27:58.880
<v Speaker 6>what I've been saying over and over again is instead

1:27:58.920 --> 1:28:01.479
<v Speaker 6>of going down this road, we need reliable base low

1:28:01.560 --> 1:28:06.439
<v Speaker 6>power otherwise we will literally face blackouts and soaring energy prices.

1:28:06.479 --> 1:28:09.559
<v Speaker 6>Now the way I see, we've got two options. First

1:28:09.560 --> 1:28:12.280
<v Speaker 6>of all, we could replace or refurbish the existing coal

1:28:12.360 --> 1:28:14.960
<v Speaker 6>fire generators, so they obviously do need renovation. They're very old,

1:28:14.960 --> 1:28:19.599
<v Speaker 6>et cetera. But they're already all the transmissions already built, right,

1:28:19.640 --> 1:28:22.519
<v Speaker 6>so all the infrastructure is already there. But yes, they

1:28:22.520 --> 1:28:26.160
<v Speaker 6>do need some work, and that honestly is my favorite option.

1:28:26.640 --> 1:28:29.799
<v Speaker 3>Look, I'm with you. I you know, I was drinking

1:28:29.840 --> 1:28:32.519
<v Speaker 3>the I don't want to say the nuclear cool aid,

1:28:32.520 --> 1:28:35.479
<v Speaker 3>but I will because I understand. Then you can just

1:28:35.560 --> 1:28:40.679
<v Speaker 3>go your hardest and have generation, knowing it to missions free,

1:28:40.760 --> 1:28:45.320
<v Speaker 3>if that's a thing, had that everywhere. But look, I

1:28:45.360 --> 1:28:48.479
<v Speaker 3>think that argument, that argument was probably lost. It was

1:28:48.520 --> 1:28:53.240
<v Speaker 3>probably lost on misinformation and poor salesmanship. It seems to

1:28:53.280 --> 1:28:56.920
<v Speaker 3>me our only option. And again you know the mother

1:28:57.000 --> 1:28:59.160
<v Speaker 3>law scare campaigns, but you don't have to do much

1:29:00.120 --> 1:29:04.200
<v Speaker 3>efficiency lower mission coal. And if people are so worried

1:29:04.200 --> 1:29:07.880
<v Speaker 3>about the emissions that come from coal, then whatever we

1:29:07.920 --> 1:29:12.320
<v Speaker 3>burn here reduce what reduce what we export by that,

1:29:13.360 --> 1:29:16.360
<v Speaker 3>and that might even touch asides, but that we don't

1:29:16.400 --> 1:29:20.200
<v Speaker 3>have to rewire anything that's a trillion dollars potentially. This

1:29:20.320 --> 1:29:21.360
<v Speaker 3>to me is a no brainer.

1:29:21.400 --> 1:29:23.600
<v Speaker 6>I'm with you, yeah, one hundred percent. So so the

1:29:23.640 --> 1:29:26.759
<v Speaker 6>fact matter is, yes, coal is carbon intensive, one hundred

1:29:26.760 --> 1:29:29.800
<v Speaker 6>percent is. But Australia exports five times as much coal

1:29:29.840 --> 1:29:32.280
<v Speaker 6>as we as we can shoot in domestically, So why

1:29:32.320 --> 1:29:34.720
<v Speaker 6>not just export a little bit less and burn more

1:29:34.720 --> 1:29:38.240
<v Speaker 6>ourselves and the world's climate would be no worse off? Right, No,

1:29:38.360 --> 1:29:41.200
<v Speaker 6>But then again I actually think we should probably gain

1:29:41.280 --> 1:29:43.320
<v Speaker 6>the nuclear road as well. You know that it'll take

1:29:43.320 --> 1:29:48.200
<v Speaker 6>a while, but do obviously, because you know, nuclear is

1:29:48.240 --> 1:29:51.400
<v Speaker 6>the only way to achieve lower emissions and stay more

1:29:51.439 --> 1:29:53.400
<v Speaker 6>reliable power. Like, the only way you can get both

1:29:53.960 --> 1:29:55.920
<v Speaker 6>is through nuclear, because you can run a twenty four

1:29:55.920 --> 1:29:59.280
<v Speaker 6>to seven. It's not whether dependent, it's zero emission. Yes,

1:29:59.360 --> 1:30:02.760
<v Speaker 6>the upfront are very high, but so are renewables and

1:30:02.800 --> 1:30:06.479
<v Speaker 6>storage and renewables and storage sorry j mating batteries and

1:30:06.520 --> 1:30:08.519
<v Speaker 6>you know, building pump high dress stations and this sort

1:30:08.520 --> 1:30:11.680
<v Speaker 6>of stuff. That stuff is completely unreliable and intermit and

1:30:11.720 --> 1:30:14.360
<v Speaker 6>it's going to cost a bomb, whereas we could actually

1:30:14.400 --> 1:30:17.439
<v Speaker 6>just build some nuclear generators where some of the old

1:30:17.520 --> 1:30:21.360
<v Speaker 6>coal fried generators were, where there's transmission lines and that

1:30:21.400 --> 1:30:23.040
<v Speaker 6>sort of thing. Yes, it will cost a lot of money,

1:30:23.560 --> 1:30:25.280
<v Speaker 6>but you know it's going to be stable. It'll give

1:30:25.320 --> 1:30:29.000
<v Speaker 6>you a sixty year lifespan, whereas renewables have to be replaced,

1:30:29.040 --> 1:30:31.880
<v Speaker 6>you know, fifteen to twenty years, so you have to

1:30:31.960 --> 1:30:34.040
<v Speaker 6>keep replacing them. You batteries you've got to turn over

1:30:34.080 --> 1:30:38.040
<v Speaker 6>all the time. You know, win a solar and wind

1:30:38.080 --> 1:30:41.920
<v Speaker 6>turbines don't last more than twenty years, so that the

1:30:42.000 --> 1:30:45.960
<v Speaker 6>environmental footprint of nuclear is way better. You know, one

1:30:46.040 --> 1:30:50.519
<v Speaker 6>Bunton sized warehouse sized generator can create the same amount

1:30:50.560 --> 1:30:53.200
<v Speaker 6>of energy is probably you know, four hundred plus wind

1:30:53.240 --> 1:30:55.000
<v Speaker 6>turbines which are spread out all over the place and

1:30:55.040 --> 1:30:56.880
<v Speaker 6>need concrete footings. You need to clear a whole one

1:30:56.960 --> 1:31:02.120
<v Speaker 6>to land. All the resources that go into that is insane. Now,

1:31:02.240 --> 1:31:05.000
<v Speaker 6>it was very interesting this weekluk so UK has gone

1:31:05.040 --> 1:31:07.720
<v Speaker 6>down the same NED zero delusion as US, and they've

1:31:07.720 --> 1:31:10.599
<v Speaker 6>got a guy called Ed Milliban who's their energy minister.

1:31:10.680 --> 1:31:13.439
<v Speaker 6>He's just like Chris Bowen, he's an absolute zealot. But

1:31:13.880 --> 1:31:16.000
<v Speaker 6>even the UK came out at the start of the

1:31:16.000 --> 1:31:19.160
<v Speaker 6>week and they said that the renewables aren't working properly,

1:31:19.240 --> 1:31:21.519
<v Speaker 6>it's not reliable, so we're going to build out nuclear.

1:31:21.720 --> 1:31:24.120
<v Speaker 6>So even the UK has gone down this road and

1:31:24.960 --> 1:31:27.880
<v Speaker 6>Ed Millerban, who's just as much of a Zealot as

1:31:28.000 --> 1:31:31.600
<v Speaker 6>Chris Bowen said, he declared quote a golden age for

1:31:31.680 --> 1:31:35.879
<v Speaker 6>British Britain's nuclear industry. So so how is that Australia,

1:31:35.920 --> 1:31:39.639
<v Speaker 6>that holds the world's largest deposits of uranium, has banned

1:31:39.720 --> 1:31:43.000
<v Speaker 6>nuclear power in banded nuclear is the source of generation

1:31:43.680 --> 1:31:46.040
<v Speaker 6>when these other countries, like pretty much everywhere else in

1:31:46.040 --> 1:31:48.240
<v Speaker 6>the world bar us in New Zealand, are going down

1:31:48.240 --> 1:31:51.160
<v Speaker 6>to the nucular raid. We literally have the world's biggest

1:31:51.400 --> 1:31:53.519
<v Speaker 6>deposits of uranium, so we could go down this road

1:31:54.040 --> 1:31:56.360
<v Speaker 6>and we've got there, the second biggest. So we're the

1:31:56.400 --> 1:31:58.400
<v Speaker 6>biggest coal exporter in the world, so we could be

1:31:58.560 --> 1:32:01.360
<v Speaker 6>doing that as well, and we're obviously one of the biggest,

1:32:01.520 --> 1:32:03.760
<v Speaker 6>the second biggest gas export. But we didn't think there's

1:32:03.840 --> 1:32:07.080
<v Speaker 6>cheapid thing here because that we deny our selves access

1:32:07.120 --> 1:32:09.960
<v Speaker 6>to our own energy, our own coal, our own gas,

1:32:10.400 --> 1:32:12.960
<v Speaker 6>and our own uranium. Yes, and we sell all this

1:32:13.000 --> 1:32:14.680
<v Speaker 6>stuff to the rest of the world. We give the

1:32:14.680 --> 1:32:16.519
<v Speaker 6>rest of the world cheap energy, and then we starve

1:32:16.520 --> 1:32:19.160
<v Speaker 6>ourselves and then we you know, and then we say

1:32:19.160 --> 1:32:21.040
<v Speaker 6>oh no, no, we know we can't burn this stuff.

1:32:21.040 --> 1:32:24.160
<v Speaker 6>We've got to go down this renewables road, which which

1:32:24.280 --> 1:32:26.400
<v Speaker 6>in times of winter when there's not much sun, or

1:32:26.439 --> 1:32:29.439
<v Speaker 6>we have these wind routs which happened regularly, they just

1:32:29.520 --> 1:32:30.320
<v Speaker 6>don't work.

1:32:30.720 --> 1:32:34.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's crazy, It is crazy. It is crazy. And

1:32:34.640 --> 1:32:37.160
<v Speaker 3>the best in interests and the you know, the people

1:32:37.160 --> 1:32:40.439
<v Speaker 3>with Daddy's billions who get the government subsidies in the

1:32:40.479 --> 1:32:44.759
<v Speaker 3>billions and just make the easy ride. I mean, there'll

1:32:44.760 --> 1:32:47.559
<v Speaker 3>be a day. Tell me who the champion of the

1:32:47.640 --> 1:32:50.960
<v Speaker 3>week is. I think we've got some champions time music gets.

1:32:53.880 --> 1:32:55.600
<v Speaker 3>Who have you gone with, mate.

1:32:55.640 --> 1:32:58.960
<v Speaker 6>Mate, I've gone with journalists Chris Willman. Yes, now you

1:32:59.000 --> 1:33:01.200
<v Speaker 6>know former ABSC Now he does some stuff with Sky

1:33:01.840 --> 1:33:05.040
<v Speaker 6>and some others. But the yeah, mate, Christi Wilman gave

1:33:05.080 --> 1:33:08.040
<v Speaker 6>a fantastic he's been right on this energy stuff and

1:33:08.080 --> 1:33:10.920
<v Speaker 6>he's done excellent work, done a great documentaries, et cetera.

1:33:11.760 --> 1:33:15.640
<v Speaker 6>And anyway, it was on the John Anderson podcast a

1:33:15.640 --> 1:33:18.360
<v Speaker 6>week ago, and I watched the whole thing and it

1:33:18.439 --> 1:33:21.559
<v Speaker 6>was fantastic, and he actually predicted pretty much what happened

1:33:21.600 --> 1:33:24.719
<v Speaker 6>this week, right, so literally a week before it happened.

1:33:25.320 --> 1:33:31.240
<v Speaker 6>He said that he said basically I tell you what's

1:33:31.240 --> 1:33:32.880
<v Speaker 6>going to happen to the East Coast energy market. We

1:33:32.920 --> 1:33:35.200
<v Speaker 6>are running our last coal fire power plants about as

1:33:35.200 --> 1:33:37.280
<v Speaker 6>hard as we can, is what he said. He said,

1:33:37.320 --> 1:33:39.519
<v Speaker 6>one day, when the sun's not shining and the wind's

1:33:39.520 --> 1:33:42.120
<v Speaker 6>not blowing, and probably in the middle of winter, when

1:33:42.120 --> 1:33:44.479
<v Speaker 6>it's really quite cold, one of those big coal fire

1:33:44.479 --> 1:33:47.120
<v Speaker 6>power plants is going to give out. It will break

1:33:47.160 --> 1:33:49.240
<v Speaker 6>because the stress it's under. And then we'll see the

1:33:49.320 --> 1:33:52.240
<v Speaker 6>energy ministers come out and say, see we told you

1:33:52.400 --> 1:33:55.840
<v Speaker 6>old power break down. You know, we need more renewables,

1:33:55.840 --> 1:33:58.080
<v Speaker 6>that sort of thing. And that is exactly what happened

1:33:58.080 --> 1:34:00.760
<v Speaker 6>this week, all right. So so one of you know,

1:34:00.880 --> 1:34:05.760
<v Speaker 6>as I said, Victoria's coal generators went down. The renewables

1:34:05.760 --> 1:34:08.720
<v Speaker 6>lobby came out and said straight away, see Cole's unreliable.

1:34:08.760 --> 1:34:10.680
<v Speaker 6>This is why we need more renewables. And this is

1:34:10.720 --> 1:34:13.160
<v Speaker 6>exactly what Chris Juman predicted a link before it happened,

1:34:13.720 --> 1:34:16.240
<v Speaker 6>and it has played out exactly as he said. And

1:34:16.439 --> 1:34:19.040
<v Speaker 6>you know, anyone who wants to learn more on this topic,

1:34:19.560 --> 1:34:23.719
<v Speaker 6>I highly you know, recommend that you go on YouTube,

1:34:23.760 --> 1:34:27.960
<v Speaker 6>for example, and search for Chris Human and renewables and

1:34:28.040 --> 1:34:29.760
<v Speaker 6>power and energy and that sort of things. He's done

1:34:29.800 --> 1:34:31.360
<v Speaker 6>some fantastic work in the areas.

1:34:31.439 --> 1:34:34.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he really has. Right, mate, have a great weekend,

1:34:34.920 --> 1:34:36.519
<v Speaker 3>take care, talk to you in a week's time.

1:34:37.000 --> 1:34:38.400
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, chasers, thank you.

1:34:38.520 --> 1:34:41.719
<v Speaker 3>Leeth van Ansolin, Chris Jullman, big fan of his workers.

1:34:41.760 --> 1:34:44.479
<v Speaker 3>You well know. Now we'll take a break. It's twenty

1:34:44.479 --> 1:34:48.360
<v Speaker 3>five after eleven, twenty nine minutes after eleven o'clock. Plenty

1:34:48.360 --> 1:34:51.600
<v Speaker 3>of sport, plenty of racing this weekend, so let's have

1:34:51.640 --> 1:34:53.880
<v Speaker 3>a look at what's happening with the markets around all

1:34:53.880 --> 1:34:57.120
<v Speaker 3>of that. Glenn Munty from Ladbrugs on the nine on

1:34:57.160 --> 1:35:00.600
<v Speaker 3>the line, did I, Glenn, hope you will? Well, wouldn't I?

1:35:00.640 --> 1:35:02.400
<v Speaker 11>Bound? I'm even better now than I'm talking to you.

1:35:02.680 --> 1:35:05.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh, listen to this, hey, listen to this NRL. Let's

1:35:05.920 --> 1:35:08.640
<v Speaker 3>start there my chokie. Yes, mate, go on.

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<v Speaker 11>I was trying to say, hang by the little box

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<v Speaker 11>during the week there might be something there for you,

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<v Speaker 11>but if it's chicking, I'd leave it alone.

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<v Speaker 3>Whoops, an alarm clock for the kiddies listing, Glen, Glenn's

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<v Speaker 3>going to send me an alarm clock neg time. The

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<v Speaker 3>Knights and the roosters, My roosters, I know you're a

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<v Speaker 3>Bunnies man, so it's amazing that we talk to each other.

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<v Speaker 3>This is McDonald jones Stadium.

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<v Speaker 11>Well that's how you know that you're forever in our shadow.

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<v Speaker 11>Let's have a five thirty this afternoon at Newcastle where

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<v Speaker 11>the Knight's the home side. Here three dollars twenty outsiders.

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<v Speaker 11>This game affected badly by injuries and origin. Of course,

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<v Speaker 11>Fletcher Sharp out for Newcastle, so Jackson Hastings comes in

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<v Speaker 11>for his first game all year in.

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<v Speaker 1>The top grade.

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<v Speaker 11>They're three dollars twenty outsiders Newcastle. The Roosters they got enough,

1:35:56.840 --> 1:35:58.600
<v Speaker 11>they got five players in origin and a couple of

1:35:58.640 --> 1:36:01.280
<v Speaker 11>injuries as well. They're the dollars thirty five favorites in

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<v Speaker 11>this one nine and a half the line in that

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<v Speaker 11>one forty three and a half the over under and

1:36:07.640 --> 1:36:10.320
<v Speaker 11>the Roosters have won seven of the last eight matches

1:36:10.360 --> 1:36:12.880
<v Speaker 11>between the two. And who can forget last week when

1:36:12.960 --> 1:36:15.880
<v Speaker 11>yinka they have gone to the world against Many and

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<v Speaker 11>got home in a tidy.

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<v Speaker 3>H do you haven't they fall and hate Many losing

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<v Speaker 3>last night as well?

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<v Speaker 1>Goodness, what a tragedy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, that's Greg sincerity. The Cowboys, the Cowboys and

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<v Speaker 3>the Dolphins later in the day.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, seven thirty five, This one in Townsville. The eighth

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<v Speaker 11>placed Cowboys play the ninth place Dolphins. The Cowboys outside

1:36:37.840 --> 1:36:40.760
<v Speaker 11>is here at two sixty the Dolphins favorite at a

1:36:40.880 --> 1:36:44.559
<v Speaker 11>dollar fifty. They have lost their last three matches away

1:36:44.840 --> 1:36:47.400
<v Speaker 11>as favorites the Dolphins five and a half. The line

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<v Speaker 11>in that one forty nine and a half the over runner.

1:36:50.520 --> 1:36:53.320
<v Speaker 11>Now five of the last six Cowboys games have gone over.

1:36:54.200 --> 1:36:57.559
<v Speaker 11>They've got the fifth worst defense in the whole comp

1:36:57.640 --> 1:36:59.960
<v Speaker 11>the Cowboys and the worst of the top eleven side,

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<v Speaker 11>and the Dolphins have got the third best attack in

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<v Speaker 11>the National Rugby League. So expect points in this game.

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<v Speaker 11>Five and a half the line two the Cowboys forty

1:37:09.120 --> 1:37:11.400
<v Speaker 11>nine and a half the over under there. And then

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<v Speaker 11>tomorrow this will be a cracker four o'clock at Homebush

1:37:14.280 --> 1:37:17.000
<v Speaker 11>a course. South's at two eighty five. The dog is

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<v Speaker 11>at one forty four canterb We've won the last ten

1:37:20.000 --> 1:37:22.640
<v Speaker 11>of the last twelve between the sides here seven and

1:37:22.640 --> 1:37:24.519
<v Speaker 11>a half the line forty five and a half the

1:37:24.600 --> 1:37:27.720
<v Speaker 11>over under Lachland Galvin, who's done everything but walk on

1:37:27.840 --> 1:37:30.720
<v Speaker 11>water in the last couple of weeks. He's starting for

1:37:30.880 --> 1:37:33.400
<v Speaker 11>Canterby's three forty five to score a try, as he

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<v Speaker 11>did last week in his first match for the Dogs.

1:37:35.720 --> 1:37:38.720
<v Speaker 11>He's nineteen dollars to score the first try and that one.

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<v Speaker 11>And then Wednesday night in Perth is origin two. Mitchell

1:37:42.479 --> 1:37:45.920
<v Speaker 11>moses out and New South Wales drifted with Loule coming

1:37:45.960 --> 1:37:48.240
<v Speaker 11>into the side one forty four the Blues to eighty

1:37:48.320 --> 1:37:50.840
<v Speaker 11>Queensland seven and a half the line forty one and

1:37:50.880 --> 1:37:53.000
<v Speaker 11>a half the over under. As I said, that's Wednesday

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<v Speaker 11>night at Opta Stadium in Perth.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, excellent, all right. Now the US Open golfin Adam

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<v Speaker 3>Scott's in the mix mate, that's I think fantastic.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, he's three off the lead, Adam Scott. He's the

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<v Speaker 11>leading ossie at the moment. He's even par. Only three

1:38:06.439 --> 1:38:09.760
<v Speaker 11>players under par at the moment. Sam Burns the leader

1:38:09.840 --> 1:38:11.960
<v Speaker 11>on three under. He tied for ninth in the US

1:38:12.040 --> 1:38:14.960
<v Speaker 11>Open last year. He leads JJ Sporn, who was the

1:38:15.040 --> 1:38:17.880
<v Speaker 11>overnight leader on minus two. Victor Hoveland is the only

1:38:17.960 --> 1:38:21.200
<v Speaker 11>other player under the card at minus one. Sam Burns

1:38:21.320 --> 1:38:23.920
<v Speaker 11>is the four dollar fifty favorite over Hobland at six

1:38:24.040 --> 1:38:27.000
<v Speaker 11>dollars spawn at nine. Scotti Scheffler, who's seven off the

1:38:27.120 --> 1:38:29.960
<v Speaker 11>lead is a nine dollar chance. Ben Griffin and Adam

1:38:30.040 --> 1:38:33.559
<v Speaker 11>Scott are eleven and seventeen dollars there. And for our

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<v Speaker 11>Brisbane and Sydney viewers, a big match in the AFL

1:38:35.840 --> 1:38:38.519
<v Speaker 11>todat the Gather twenty past one Brisbane played the Giants.

1:38:38.920 --> 1:38:42.320
<v Speaker 11>Brisbane won twenty favorites. The Giants out the four sixty.

1:38:42.720 --> 1:38:44.280
<v Speaker 11>The last time they played a day game at the

1:38:44.280 --> 1:38:46.040
<v Speaker 11>Gather was a round twenty two last year and the

1:38:46.200 --> 1:38:48.360
<v Speaker 11>Greater Western Sydney Giants got over the top of Brisbane

1:38:48.600 --> 1:38:50.880
<v Speaker 11>eighty two to sixty four, twenty.

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<v Speaker 14>Seven and a half.

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<v Speaker 11>The line a biggie there and one hundred and seventy

1:38:53.680 --> 1:38:56.639
<v Speaker 11>and a half the over under. Now. Funnily enough, Brisbane

1:38:56.680 --> 1:38:59.320
<v Speaker 11>haven't covered the line in their last nine day matches

1:38:59.640 --> 1:39:02.040
<v Speaker 11>at the so that gives the Giants some hope with

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<v Speaker 11>the twenty one and a half start not too far

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<v Speaker 11>from the Gabba, probably about thirty five dollars in a

1:39:06.280 --> 1:39:09.760
<v Speaker 11>taxi of his Eagle Farm race course, or depends which

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<v Speaker 11>where you go. If you go out of the story

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<v Speaker 11>bridge might be a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, what do you may? What do you reckon? It

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<v Speaker 3>cost me a cab from the airport to the city

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<v Speaker 3>about a month ago. What part of the city right

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<v Speaker 3>at center? I was in Ann Street, I think.

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<v Speaker 11>Right a taxi, I'd say sixty five dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Gosh, have you got my credit card statement there with

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<v Speaker 3>sixty seven bucks or something? That's okay.

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<v Speaker 11>I keep telling you I'm not a recluse, and you

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<v Speaker 11>know I haven't been in Guantanamo Bay or the like

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<v Speaker 11>for the last thirty odd years. I do actually get

1:39:47.160 --> 1:39:47.519
<v Speaker 11>around you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah right, sorry, Strapbruck my body shape. But is around

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<v Speaker 3>Strapbrug handicap in an Eagle farm today? Mate?

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<v Speaker 11>Yes, the war Machine is the favorite for the brad

1:40:00.160 --> 1:40:03.040
<v Speaker 11>BROGI also Group one racing the lad Broks JJ Atkins

1:40:03.080 --> 1:40:05.439
<v Speaker 11>when cool Archie is the favorite, and that one looks

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<v Speaker 11>a beautiful day in Brisbane, let's hope the racing is

1:40:08.800 --> 1:40:11.240
<v Speaker 11>keen and all that. And in Sydney we're racing at

1:40:11.320 --> 1:40:13.639
<v Speaker 11>rose Hill where they're approaching the barriers for the second

1:40:13.960 --> 1:40:16.120
<v Speaker 11>on the car there. If you are having an investment,

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<v Speaker 11>best of luck to you no matter what you're playing on,

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<v Speaker 11>you have an investment today. Best of luck to you, love.

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<v Speaker 3>Your work months. Thank you lerk okayberbye.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a nice man that Glenn Muns, isn't he nice man? Now?

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<v Speaker 3>Brian Wilson Beach Boys remember this a classic and we

1:41:00.439 --> 1:41:03.800
<v Speaker 3>will pay tribute to Brian Wilson after midday when Craig

1:41:03.960 --> 1:41:07.280
<v Speaker 3>Bennett joins us for starstruckts hard to know what the

1:41:07.320 --> 1:41:10.680
<v Speaker 3>best Beach Boys song is. I get a bit of

1:41:10.720 --> 1:41:14.800
<v Speaker 3>time driving into work and I occasionally listen to Well

1:41:14.920 --> 1:41:19.160
<v Speaker 3>all sorts of things, US podcasts, well music, and I

1:41:19.280 --> 1:41:23.800
<v Speaker 3>put on their best of album and every song's a winner.

1:41:24.520 --> 1:41:26.800
<v Speaker 3>Every song's a winner, and sometimes and it's wrong, But

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<v Speaker 3>it takes the passing of a legend like Brian Wilson

1:41:30.120 --> 1:41:33.280
<v Speaker 3>to remind you that, you know, that's some pretty special stuff.

1:41:33.360 --> 1:41:37.800
<v Speaker 3>Some of those songs are sixty years old, and I

1:41:37.880 --> 1:41:40.519
<v Speaker 3>remember as a young blo people saying, oh this modern music,

1:41:40.560 --> 1:41:44.439
<v Speaker 3>it mon't last a test of time. Hello, now twenty

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<v Speaker 3>two to midday. Now it's coming up to seventeen minutes

1:41:47.760 --> 1:41:50.840
<v Speaker 3>to midday. Housing is so scarce in parts of New

1:41:50.920 --> 1:41:54.800
<v Speaker 3>South Wales that employers are renting properties on behalf of

1:41:54.920 --> 1:41:59.160
<v Speaker 3>hospitality stuff or some public health workers resort the sleeping

1:41:59.400 --> 1:42:04.120
<v Speaker 3>cars to avoid long commutes, prompting MPs towards the state government,

1:42:04.160 --> 1:42:08.519
<v Speaker 3>the men's government to act urgently on essential workers access

1:42:08.600 --> 1:42:12.400
<v Speaker 3>to housing. This isn't a news story. This is something

1:42:12.479 --> 1:42:15.840
<v Speaker 3>we've been covering here for at least the last year

1:42:16.080 --> 1:42:20.160
<v Speaker 3>and probably more. A Parliamentary Select Committee inquiry into essential

1:42:20.200 --> 1:42:25.559
<v Speaker 3>worker housing, shaired by Sydney MP Alex Greenwich, found these workers,

1:42:25.920 --> 1:42:28.040
<v Speaker 3>who are broadly defined as someone who works face to

1:42:28.120 --> 1:42:32.200
<v Speaker 3>face providing key services, are the forgotten group and the

1:42:32.240 --> 1:42:36.880
<v Speaker 3>government's housing policies. The committee supports that essential workers ensure

1:42:37.439 --> 1:42:40.360
<v Speaker 3>cities and regions can function. Yet with that adequate access

1:42:40.439 --> 1:42:44.040
<v Speaker 3>to safe housing that's affordable, many of these workers are

1:42:44.080 --> 1:42:47.040
<v Speaker 3>forced to sacrifice their well being in order to deliver

1:42:47.160 --> 1:42:52.720
<v Speaker 3>the services our state needs, and the ridiculous the ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>Counter to that is, you know, if you dare to say, well,

1:42:55.120 --> 1:43:00.599
<v Speaker 3>hang on, if we're building new houses more slowly than ever,

1:43:01.479 --> 1:43:07.000
<v Speaker 3>and we're having population growth more rapid than ever, then

1:43:07.600 --> 1:43:12.240
<v Speaker 3>you know that proposition isn't racist. It's actually mathematics. As

1:43:12.280 --> 1:43:15.320
<v Speaker 3>we say here often, and you get a report, Oh

1:43:15.439 --> 1:43:20.280
<v Speaker 3>isn't that amazing? It's not amazing, It's completely predictable. But

1:43:20.840 --> 1:43:24.839
<v Speaker 3>we know, don't talk about that stuff. What we do Bazaar.

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<v Speaker 3>It's seventeen to midday.

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<v Speaker 4>And now the Real Estate Show Thanks to Domain, Australia's

1:43:34.960 --> 1:43:36.560
<v Speaker 4>trusted property marketplace.

1:43:37.360 --> 1:43:41.080
<v Speaker 3>Alice Stoles is a national property editor at Domain. We

1:43:41.200 --> 1:43:43.599
<v Speaker 3>have a chat each week and she's with us right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Good day, Alice, good morning.

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<v Speaker 10>We're great to bear with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks lovely to talk to you again. Let's kick off

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<v Speaker 3>with the latest action numbers and clearance rates in Sydney

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<v Speaker 3>and Brisbane. What can you tell me?

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<v Speaker 19>Well, Sydney's got not going not badly given we are

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<v Speaker 19>now well and trillion winter seven hundred seventy three auctions

1:44:01.160 --> 1:44:04.559
<v Speaker 19>taking place around the city today. Brisbane has seventy eight

1:44:04.640 --> 1:44:07.200
<v Speaker 19>auctions now last week and of course Long weekend in

1:44:07.280 --> 1:44:10.200
<v Speaker 19>Sydney last weekend clearance rates came in at sixty six

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<v Speaker 19>percent for Sydney, and in Brisbane they came in at

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<v Speaker 19>thirty nine percent. So it's kind of we're just slipping

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<v Speaker 19>into that slower period, Luke. But let's see what happens

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<v Speaker 19>in the next couple of weeks, just to see how

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<v Speaker 19>kind of reactive I guess buyers are to the economy

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<v Speaker 19>and all this global uncertainty.

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<v Speaker 3>Indeed, all right, now our expensive and not so expensive

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<v Speaker 3>buyers from last week in Sydney and in Brisbane, East

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<v Speaker 3>Linfield got the top figure.

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<v Speaker 6>Did it?

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<v Speaker 3>In Sydney it did?

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<v Speaker 1>Indeed.

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<v Speaker 19>Now this was a three bedroom house. Now there were

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<v Speaker 19>twelve bidders at this auction, Luke.

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<v Speaker 7>It was an.

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<v Speaker 19>Aged three bedroom home on around just a bit of

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<v Speaker 19>a nine hundred square meter, so twelve bidters because basically

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<v Speaker 19>it had the appeal of being able to be a

1:44:52.360 --> 1:44:56.680
<v Speaker 19>knockdown house. But the bidding for this one went bananas,

1:44:56.760 --> 1:45:00.519
<v Speaker 19>and someone paid four point five million dollars for essentially

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<v Speaker 19>beat a knockdown and then they'll rebuild their green behind

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<v Speaker 19>a local family from the area, and the vendor's son

1:45:06.720 --> 1:45:09.080
<v Speaker 19>apparently said to us that his parents were over the

1:45:09.160 --> 1:45:10.960
<v Speaker 19>moon they'd been in the house for twenty six years,

1:45:11.479 --> 1:45:14.200
<v Speaker 19>and clearly they were pragmatic about not to be emotional

1:45:14.200 --> 1:45:15.360
<v Speaker 19>about it, because I think I'd be a bit of

1:45:15.400 --> 1:45:17.679
<v Speaker 19>a wreck if that happened to me, knowing that someone

1:45:17.760 --> 1:45:19.160
<v Speaker 19>was going to knock out in the house. But they

1:45:19.160 --> 1:45:23.120
<v Speaker 19>obviously just could see the upside of the opportunity to

1:45:23.200 --> 1:45:25.439
<v Speaker 19>make a very tidy profit on it. So a pretty

1:45:26.040 --> 1:45:29.280
<v Speaker 19>incredible situation that we're seeing play out in different spots

1:45:29.320 --> 1:45:33.360
<v Speaker 19>of Sydney, particularly when heritage and I guess the development

1:45:33.400 --> 1:45:36.920
<v Speaker 19>opportunities are there for some people. In Brisbane, it was

1:45:36.960 --> 1:45:40.479
<v Speaker 19>in tener Reef we had a lovely, very big, traditional

1:45:40.560 --> 1:45:43.519
<v Speaker 19>kind of English style house with incredible views that sold

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<v Speaker 19>for four point two one million dollars a three bedroom

1:45:47.240 --> 1:45:49.360
<v Speaker 19>house there. And again we're just saying if you're in

1:45:49.439 --> 1:45:53.040
<v Speaker 19>that right location with beautiful views, people will absolutely pay

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<v Speaker 19>for it if their pockets are deep enough.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes. Indeed, just back to what you were saying there

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<v Speaker 3>about you know the future of a person's property and

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<v Speaker 3>you hope you get through the process thinking, you know

1:46:05.960 --> 1:46:09.600
<v Speaker 3>what that was okay, But someone very close to me

1:46:10.479 --> 1:46:13.719
<v Speaker 3>thought when they were selling their house to a person

1:46:14.080 --> 1:46:17.240
<v Speaker 3>that made it clear that everything there was wonderful and

1:46:17.360 --> 1:46:20.200
<v Speaker 3>they couldn't wait to live in it and it was

1:46:20.320 --> 1:46:23.560
<v Speaker 3>fantastic blah blah blah, And they ended up doing a

1:46:23.600 --> 1:46:26.840
<v Speaker 3>deal only to find that a week after moving out

1:46:27.000 --> 1:46:30.840
<v Speaker 3>the place was up for rent, and they thought, Wow,

1:46:31.640 --> 1:46:34.840
<v Speaker 3>why wouldn't they just straight talk? You know, I hear

1:46:34.880 --> 1:46:37.639
<v Speaker 3>what you're saying. People need to be honest about this stuff.

1:46:37.680 --> 1:46:40.200
<v Speaker 3>And I guess, you know, you should be aware that

1:46:40.800 --> 1:46:42.640
<v Speaker 3>people are trying to get an advantage or something. But

1:46:43.560 --> 1:46:45.960
<v Speaker 3>that I think that question about heritage.

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<v Speaker 19>People can see, Yeah, some of them see what sort

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<v Speaker 19>of an emotional event or potentially how they react to

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<v Speaker 19>We've also seen situations in the market all around the

1:46:55.960 --> 1:46:59.000
<v Speaker 19>country actually where it were sometimes a very sort of plucky,

1:46:59.120 --> 1:47:01.960
<v Speaker 19>particularly first buyer. We'll go out and a limit often

1:47:02.040 --> 1:47:05.040
<v Speaker 19>write a letter to a vendor and say, I absolutely

1:47:05.080 --> 1:47:08.000
<v Speaker 19>love your house, here's my story about my proper ownership.

1:47:08.280 --> 1:47:11.000
<v Speaker 19>And often if the vendor is that way inclined, they

1:47:11.120 --> 1:47:14.799
<v Speaker 19>react through positively to it and having some instance taken

1:47:14.840 --> 1:47:18.280
<v Speaker 19>a lower offer from that first time by purely for

1:47:18.880 --> 1:47:21.439
<v Speaker 19>the emotional appeal of giving it to someone who is

1:47:21.520 --> 1:47:22.960
<v Speaker 19>going to do the right thing with it now. In

1:47:23.160 --> 1:47:26.360
<v Speaker 19>cases I'm talking about there's been complete sincea ten honesty there.

1:47:26.400 --> 1:47:29.120
<v Speaker 19>But I'm wonder if we're going to start seeing more

1:47:29.160 --> 1:47:31.360
<v Speaker 19>of people kind of shaping their own narrative just to

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<v Speaker 19>get a good deal. Probably unfortunately there is the answer

1:47:35.040 --> 1:47:35.439
<v Speaker 19>to that one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, fascinating. Now the best buy is Sydney Harris Park.

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<v Speaker 19>Yeah, look there was a place in Harris Park, two

1:47:42.720 --> 1:47:45.360
<v Speaker 19>bedroom place, five hundred and eighty five thousand dollars. This

1:47:45.520 --> 1:47:47.560
<v Speaker 19>one soulful and to me, you know what, Luke, this

1:47:47.680 --> 1:47:50.200
<v Speaker 19>shows me that going at that little bit further or

1:47:50.360 --> 1:47:53.240
<v Speaker 19>to sort of areas like this, look, i mean two bath,

1:47:53.400 --> 1:47:56.280
<v Speaker 19>one parking spot five hundred and eighty five thousand, pretty

1:47:56.280 --> 1:47:58.360
<v Speaker 19>good buying in Sydney at the moment, knowing is our

1:47:58.360 --> 1:48:02.200
<v Speaker 19>country's most expensive market and we rarely see anything with

1:48:02.320 --> 1:48:04.960
<v Speaker 19>at least two bedrooms going under sort of seven hundred

1:48:04.960 --> 1:48:07.960
<v Speaker 19>thousand at the moment, So a slight encouraging way of

1:48:08.040 --> 1:48:12.040
<v Speaker 19>light for buyers there incresstmeat in Brisbane there was a

1:48:12.080 --> 1:48:14.640
<v Speaker 19>home that for five bedrooms sold for six hundred and

1:48:14.800 --> 1:48:17.639
<v Speaker 19>twenty five thousand dollars and needs a bit of love

1:48:17.720 --> 1:48:20.920
<v Speaker 19>this place. But I'm hoping again that someone kind of

1:48:21.080 --> 1:48:22.840
<v Speaker 19>makes the most of it and can do something quite

1:48:22.880 --> 1:48:23.360
<v Speaker 19>clever there.

1:48:23.680 --> 1:48:26.599
<v Speaker 3>Tell me about this new research from Domain looking at

1:48:27.120 --> 1:48:31.240
<v Speaker 3>buyer search data and linking it with actual property listings

1:48:31.880 --> 1:48:36.320
<v Speaker 3>and showcases are growing divide, doesn't Yeah, Look, this is

1:48:36.360 --> 1:48:37.519
<v Speaker 3>what I sort.

1:48:37.400 --> 1:48:40.599
<v Speaker 19>Of think about, is that disconnect to what sellers expect

1:48:40.680 --> 1:48:43.000
<v Speaker 19>when it comes to selling and what buyers are willing

1:48:43.120 --> 1:48:45.599
<v Speaker 19>to pay. Now it says to me a lot also

1:48:45.680 --> 1:48:49.160
<v Speaker 19>about the fact that many buyers aren't really educating themselves

1:48:49.360 --> 1:48:52.880
<v Speaker 19>enough about how quickly prices can move in certain parts.

1:48:53.680 --> 1:48:55.880
<v Speaker 19>So I think the message means that buyers really need

1:48:55.920 --> 1:48:57.439
<v Speaker 19>to go in with this with their eyes wide open

1:48:57.520 --> 1:49:01.120
<v Speaker 19>and ensure they're really sort of over with what prices

1:49:01.120 --> 1:49:04.280
<v Speaker 19>are at this current point in time, because the biggest mismatch,

1:49:04.400 --> 1:49:07.240
<v Speaker 19>particularly in the Brisbane area, is that in those inner

1:49:07.439 --> 1:49:12.840
<v Speaker 19>city suburbs and areas also like Sherwood, Interpilli Candale, are

1:49:12.960 --> 1:49:15.960
<v Speaker 19>also showing gaps of what buyers are willing to pay

1:49:16.040 --> 1:49:18.840
<v Speaker 19>and what sellers are expecting to sell for. And I

1:49:18.920 --> 1:49:20.960
<v Speaker 19>guess the reality is that we sort of see this

1:49:21.120 --> 1:49:24.439
<v Speaker 19>imbalance in the market when we're just seeing a disconnection. People,

1:49:24.840 --> 1:49:26.680
<v Speaker 19>I guess aren't being realistic enough that what they have

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<v Speaker 19>to pay, and sellers are also being overly bolshy about

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<v Speaker 19>what they expect to get for the house, particularly I guess,

1:49:33.400 --> 1:49:36.799
<v Speaker 19>giving the affordability constraints that we're seeing, especially in Brisbane,

1:49:37.439 --> 1:49:38.679
<v Speaker 19>in a growing way at the moment.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, well that is that's really worth a look at.

1:49:43.880 --> 1:49:46.839
<v Speaker 3>Go to the domain website to get all that information.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you telling me that there's a two bedroom cottage

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<v Speaker 3>in Wales that you can get for a couple of bucks?

1:49:54.120 --> 1:49:57.000
<v Speaker 19>It's what I mean that these stories you can't you

1:49:57.120 --> 1:49:59.400
<v Speaker 19>couldn't make them up. A two bedroom cottage is on

1:49:59.479 --> 1:50:03.280
<v Speaker 19>the sale for two dollars. Now, Luke, brace yourself that

1:50:03.400 --> 1:50:06.240
<v Speaker 19>this is completely in a derelict state. But it's in

1:50:06.439 --> 1:50:10.360
<v Speaker 19>Pembroke Dock, a town in the rural countryside of South Wales.

1:50:10.600 --> 1:50:13.960
<v Speaker 19>It overlooks a beautiful river, but basically there is so

1:50:14.120 --> 1:50:16.400
<v Speaker 19>much work that needs to be done here. Now the

1:50:16.479 --> 1:50:19.040
<v Speaker 19>cottage will be solved an online auction and it's part

1:50:19.080 --> 1:50:21.640
<v Speaker 19>of a collection of eighty properties being sold during a

1:50:21.680 --> 1:50:24.519
<v Speaker 19>two day auction event. Now, of course, people in Brisbane

1:50:24.560 --> 1:50:27.040
<v Speaker 19>are all across the fact that they often have these

1:50:27.160 --> 1:50:30.200
<v Speaker 19>super action events take place. A collection and properties listed

1:50:30.560 --> 1:50:32.880
<v Speaker 19>at the same time. We don't see them very much

1:50:32.920 --> 1:50:35.479
<v Speaker 19>in Australia except for in that Brizze market. But this

1:50:35.640 --> 1:50:38.240
<v Speaker 19>place in the in Wales is absolutely having it. The

1:50:38.360 --> 1:50:40.920
<v Speaker 19>lease hold goes for nine hundred and ninety nine years,

1:50:41.360 --> 1:50:44.280
<v Speaker 19>but I just cannot imagine the work needs to be done.

1:50:44.479 --> 1:50:46.799
<v Speaker 19>And look, my advice is also this, if it seems

1:50:46.840 --> 1:50:49.400
<v Speaker 19>too good to be true, it normally is. And who

1:50:49.520 --> 1:50:52.640
<v Speaker 19>knows what's going on here in terms of development or

1:50:52.840 --> 1:50:55.720
<v Speaker 19>in a particularly around the waterways. There can also be

1:50:55.760 --> 1:50:58.400
<v Speaker 19>obstacles there, but certainly worth having a look a look at.

1:50:58.800 --> 1:51:00.599
<v Speaker 19>If you've got a bit of an eu pass potentially

1:51:00.640 --> 1:51:02.120
<v Speaker 19>live over there, check it out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah two bucks, goodness me, I'll be there in a

1:51:04.800 --> 1:51:07.720
<v Speaker 3>few weeks. Actually I might just no, I won't back

1:51:07.760 --> 1:51:10.519
<v Speaker 3>in a second. Alice Stoles from the Domains were there's

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<v Speaker 3>properties of the week, the first one in New South

1:51:12.600 --> 1:51:17.280
<v Speaker 3>Wales to Barrel Award winning renovation architecturally designed plays five bed,

1:51:17.720 --> 1:51:21.240
<v Speaker 3>three BA three car. But what about in Brisbane we've

1:51:21.280 --> 1:51:24.080
<v Speaker 3>got the home of a stuntman to the stars, is

1:51:24.120 --> 1:51:24.479
<v Speaker 3>that right?

1:51:25.640 --> 1:51:28.479
<v Speaker 19>That's right? Jimmy Christensen, who is like these stuntman in

1:51:28.520 --> 1:51:31.520
<v Speaker 19>Australia and has looked after everybody from George Coney.

1:51:31.240 --> 1:51:32.120
<v Speaker 20>To Ryan Gossip.

1:51:32.680 --> 1:51:35.400
<v Speaker 19>Beautiful house on Oak Beach and I mean that's sort

1:51:35.400 --> 1:51:39.800
<v Speaker 19>the Port Douglas region. Beautiful beachside sanctuary, six bed, four bath,

1:51:39.960 --> 1:51:42.679
<v Speaker 19>two car, and I just think, what a wonderful example

1:51:42.720 --> 1:51:45.080
<v Speaker 19>of those little bolt holes you can go to, particularly

1:51:45.080 --> 1:51:47.120
<v Speaker 19>if you're in a stressful job like being a stuntman.

1:51:47.200 --> 1:51:49.040
<v Speaker 19>I can't imagine what that would be like, Luke, So

1:51:49.840 --> 1:51:52.240
<v Speaker 19>opportunity for somebody to kind of make their own little

1:51:52.240 --> 1:51:55.000
<v Speaker 19>beautiful spot with someone who's been, you know, touched the

1:51:55.080 --> 1:51:55.880
<v Speaker 19>Hollywood stars.

1:51:56.120 --> 1:51:59.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's fantastic. Hey, have a terrific weekend, Alex. I'll

1:51:59.680 --> 1:52:00.559
<v Speaker 3>talk to you in a week's time.

1:52:00.600 --> 1:52:02.760
<v Speaker 19>Thanks so much, Thanks Luke.

1:52:02.960 --> 1:52:05.479
<v Speaker 3>Everything we talk about. Go to domain dot com dot

1:52:05.520 --> 1:52:08.759
<v Speaker 3>au and you can see the properties of interest in everything.

1:52:08.840 --> 1:52:12.880
<v Speaker 3>That's all the research. They're really important information. If you're

1:52:12.880 --> 1:52:15.880
<v Speaker 3>buying a home like I went through, you need domain now.

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<v Speaker 3>News coming up, Craig Bennett after that, Brian Wilson, The

1:52:19.479 --> 1:52:23.240
<v Speaker 3>Life and Times of the Legend of Music. I have

1:52:23.320 --> 1:52:25.599
<v Speaker 3>a chat to Mark Levy from the Continuous Call team.

1:52:25.600 --> 1:52:28.599
<v Speaker 3>He's in today after one o'clock with the Big Man,

1:52:28.840 --> 1:52:35.040
<v Speaker 3>Gal and Brienie on a Saturday. That's interesting. Bernie on

1:52:35.120 --> 1:52:37.800
<v Speaker 3>a Saturday with breaking is a breaking news, Brenie on

1:52:37.840 --> 1:52:41.679
<v Speaker 3>a Saturday. Still, well, if he hasn't got breaking news,

1:52:41.760 --> 1:52:44.800
<v Speaker 3>he'll find someone that doesn't know that. Love your work,

1:52:44.880 --> 1:52:45.479
<v Speaker 3>Brenie News.

1:52:45.600 --> 1:53:05.160
<v Speaker 1>Next cross Australia. It's back to weekends. We have to

1:53:05.280 --> 1:53:05.920
<v Speaker 1>look grand.

1:53:08.400 --> 1:53:10.960
<v Speaker 3>Good afternoon. Thank you for your company. Great to be

1:53:11.040 --> 1:53:13.840
<v Speaker 3>with you on Saturday, the fourteenth day of June, in

1:53:13.960 --> 1:53:18.560
<v Speaker 3>the winter of Australia warming up. I hope so the

1:53:18.680 --> 1:53:22.920
<v Speaker 3>Continuous Call team there with you after one. I just

1:53:23.000 --> 1:53:24.840
<v Speaker 3>saw the big Man. I love having a chat to

1:53:24.880 --> 1:53:27.760
<v Speaker 3>the big man in the office here. We don't get

1:53:27.760 --> 1:53:30.200
<v Speaker 3>a lot of time. About seven minutes when the news

1:53:30.360 --> 1:53:33.839
<v Speaker 3>is on, he tells me he's got some great stuff

1:53:34.560 --> 1:53:36.720
<v Speaker 3>for you this afternoon. So I keep listening. Whatever you do.

1:53:37.920 --> 1:53:39.840
<v Speaker 3>Mark's here, of course, Mark Leeby, I'll chat to him

1:53:39.920 --> 1:53:43.479
<v Speaker 3>later in the hour. And Craig Bennett The Life and

1:53:43.640 --> 1:53:46.560
<v Speaker 3>Times of Brian Wilson, the Music Legend, will do that.

1:53:46.680 --> 1:53:50.400
<v Speaker 3>On Starstruck today, Richard Miles has been speaking the Deputy

1:53:50.479 --> 1:53:53.400
<v Speaker 3>Prime Minister. I will get to that in just a sec.

1:53:53.880 --> 1:53:58.439
<v Speaker 3>And I want to go back to the Israel. Iran conflict.

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<v Speaker 3>We have seen reports that one woman has died in

1:54:03.800 --> 1:54:07.240
<v Speaker 3>Tel Aviv. I'm waiting for more information than When I

1:54:07.320 --> 1:54:10.000
<v Speaker 3>have that, I'll pass it on to you. I mentioned

1:54:10.040 --> 1:54:13.880
<v Speaker 3>this story a little earlier in the day, and it's

1:54:13.960 --> 1:54:17.679
<v Speaker 3>now been reported more formally in the Telegraph. A former

1:54:17.960 --> 1:54:22.679
<v Speaker 3>Northern Territory Olympian has described a terrifying night of bunkering

1:54:22.800 --> 1:54:28.599
<v Speaker 3>down as Israel with quote unrelenting ballistic missile attacks unquote

1:54:29.200 --> 1:54:35.120
<v Speaker 3>from Iran. Nov Peris said she spent the early waking

1:54:35.280 --> 1:54:41.040
<v Speaker 3>hours in a Jerusalem bomb shelter with eleven other Australians

1:54:41.080 --> 1:54:43.840
<v Speaker 3>who are due to take part in a reception by

1:54:43.960 --> 1:54:49.320
<v Speaker 3>the Israel Australia, New Zealand and Oceania Chamber of Commerce

1:54:49.560 --> 1:54:53.360
<v Speaker 3>on Sunday in Tel Aviv. In a post on Twitter

1:54:53.440 --> 1:54:58.440
<v Speaker 3>this morning or x, miss Peris described their last twenty

1:54:58.480 --> 1:55:01.080
<v Speaker 3>four hours, much of which has been spent in a shelter,

1:55:01.840 --> 1:55:06.600
<v Speaker 3>as deeply confronting. It follows as a tax between Israel

1:55:06.720 --> 1:55:11.960
<v Speaker 3>and Iran have intensified. Posting about two am from Israel,

1:55:12.880 --> 1:55:17.040
<v Speaker 3>Navperi said the last five hours had been extremely frightening

1:55:17.120 --> 1:55:22.080
<v Speaker 3>and distressing. We've witnessed the unrelenting ballistic missile attacks in

1:55:22.200 --> 1:55:26.360
<v Speaker 3>Tel Aviv, Jerusalem and across Israel. There have now been

1:55:26.440 --> 1:55:31.720
<v Speaker 3>three waves of missiles fired directly from Iran, targeting civilians,

1:55:31.760 --> 1:55:39.560
<v Speaker 3>destroying homes and causing widespread devastation. She says, like so

1:55:39.680 --> 1:55:42.200
<v Speaker 3>many here were just doing what Israelis do every day,

1:55:42.320 --> 1:55:47.360
<v Speaker 3>seeking shelters, staying strong, praying for peace. We also stand

1:55:47.480 --> 1:55:51.400
<v Speaker 3>with the two million Arab citizens of Israel who rely

1:55:51.520 --> 1:55:55.000
<v Speaker 3>on the same protection from the IDFs defense systems. This

1:55:55.240 --> 1:55:58.400
<v Speaker 3>isn't about one people, It's about humanity. She thanked everyone

1:55:59.000 --> 1:56:01.480
<v Speaker 3>who sent messages and asked people to keep Israel and

1:56:01.600 --> 1:56:05.520
<v Speaker 3>at citizens in their prayers. We can't wait to come home,

1:56:05.600 --> 1:56:07.880
<v Speaker 3>but for now we're safe in bomb shoulders. We're together,

1:56:08.560 --> 1:56:12.280
<v Speaker 3>our hearts are with all those living through this, this terror.

1:56:13.520 --> 1:56:16.520
<v Speaker 3>I imagine there'll be plenty of people who've expressed an

1:56:16.560 --> 1:56:21.600
<v Speaker 3>opinion about about Middle East wars and conflicts that'll be

1:56:21.680 --> 1:56:23.680
<v Speaker 3>concerned about the kids of Israel, Will they?

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<v Speaker 19>On?

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<v Speaker 3>Three? One eight seven? Three? Hey, look at this, Paula's

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<v Speaker 3>on the line.

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<v Speaker 11>Day.

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<v Speaker 3>Mate. You've seen something remarkable, have you?

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm really sure.

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<v Speaker 14>We're at Cape Solanda at the time, our national park. Yeah,

1:56:42.840 --> 1:56:45.760
<v Speaker 14>at the one watching station, and I'm pretty sure it's

1:56:45.760 --> 1:56:48.240
<v Speaker 14>seen Migelo the word while with a pot of about

1:56:48.440 --> 1:56:49.840
<v Speaker 14>six or seven at the north.

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<v Speaker 3>So just for listeners in the state, this is Cape Solander.

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<v Speaker 3>It's near Colonel.

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<v Speaker 14>Cape Solandri and the Colonel National parkner.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, and you you saw Migealou the white whale with

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<v Speaker 3>around six or seven of its friends.

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<v Speaker 9>Is that right?

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<v Speaker 14>That's correct?

1:57:07.080 --> 1:57:11.960
<v Speaker 6>Right up again? But yeah, that was about fifteen.

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<v Speaker 14>Minutes ago, passing through the ancient support me by now

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<v Speaker 14>heading more, trying away from to come up again.

1:57:19.680 --> 1:57:22.520
<v Speaker 3>It sounds a bit windy out there. It must be

1:57:22.920 --> 1:57:24.320
<v Speaker 3>nice and cold and fresh.

1:57:24.120 --> 1:57:24.240
<v Speaker 11>Is it?

1:57:25.320 --> 1:57:25.480
<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

1:57:25.880 --> 1:57:31.560
<v Speaker 14>Fresh, it's not too bad. Actually it's okay in good traditions.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, great, all right, Paulie, thank you mate at

1:57:36.720 --> 1:57:40.960
<v Speaker 3>the whale watching station at at Colonel Migelu. Do you

1:57:40.960 --> 1:57:44.760
<v Speaker 3>reckon Migalohu's ringing a whale radio station? Well as I

1:57:44.920 --> 1:57:47.720
<v Speaker 3>like to call it a way whaley station saying I

1:57:47.840 --> 1:57:51.840
<v Speaker 3>just saw a human, don't think sae As I mentioned earlier,

1:57:51.960 --> 1:57:57.160
<v Speaker 3>two barrages of Iranian missiles have struck Israel this morning

1:57:57.240 --> 1:57:59.120
<v Speaker 3>three If you believe that report, and why wouldn't you?

1:57:59.600 --> 1:58:03.200
<v Speaker 3>From No the Paris The attacks have reportedly injured forty people,

1:58:03.200 --> 1:58:06.920
<v Speaker 3>who have severely damaged several high rises as fireballs lit

1:58:07.040 --> 1:58:10.280
<v Speaker 3>up the night sky. It follows Israel's deadly strikes on

1:58:10.760 --> 1:58:15.000
<v Speaker 3>Iranian nuclear facilities yesterday. Now Defense Minister and Deputy Prime

1:58:15.000 --> 1:58:18.480
<v Speaker 3>Minister Richard Miles has spoken to the media. He's calling

1:58:18.520 --> 1:58:22.760
<v Speaker 3>on both nations to prioritize dialogue and diplomacy over warfare.

1:58:23.360 --> 1:58:28.480
<v Speaker 21>We well understand the threat that Iran's nuclear and ballistic

1:58:28.600 --> 1:58:34.520
<v Speaker 21>missile program represents. That program is a threat to international

1:58:34.680 --> 1:58:38.520
<v Speaker 21>peace and security. But because of this, we are calling

1:58:38.760 --> 1:58:46.200
<v Speaker 21>on all parties to prioritize dialogue and diplomacy. We specifically

1:58:46.400 --> 1:58:51.800
<v Speaker 21>call on Iran to exercise restraint in their actions so

1:58:52.040 --> 1:58:55.400
<v Speaker 21>as not to risk any broader conflict.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I guess as a Deputy Prime minister one needs

1:58:59.920 --> 1:59:04.720
<v Speaker 3>to be somewhat restrained. He also advised that Australians in

1:59:04.760 --> 1:59:07.040
<v Speaker 3>the region should heed the advice of the Smart Travel

1:59:07.160 --> 1:59:11.800
<v Speaker 3>website and seek consular assistance if necessary. Well, according to

1:59:11.880 --> 1:59:19.440
<v Speaker 3>a report I mentioned earlier that support's been unavailable, they

1:59:19.440 --> 1:59:23.360
<v Speaker 3>are able to report that Australian diplomatic staff and military

1:59:23.440 --> 1:59:28.040
<v Speaker 3>personnel are safe. Here is more of Richard Miles.

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<v Speaker 21>I can say that we are able to report that

1:59:34.280 --> 1:59:39.200
<v Speaker 21>our embassy staff in both Tehran and Tel Aviv are

1:59:39.360 --> 1:59:43.200
<v Speaker 21>all accounted for and are safe. There are a small

1:59:43.280 --> 1:59:46.760
<v Speaker 21>number of Australian Defense Force personnel within the region. They

1:59:46.880 --> 1:59:50.360
<v Speaker 21>too have all been accounted for and are safe, but

1:59:50.560 --> 1:59:55.480
<v Speaker 21>we will continue to monitor their ongoing safety.

1:59:56.400 --> 1:59:59.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and now the US President Donald Trump has urged

2:00:00.000 --> 2:00:02.120
<v Speaker 3>Aren't to make a deal or face even more brutal

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<v Speaker 3>attacks by Israel. As Washington said, it was helping its

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<v Speaker 3>key all I defend itself against Iranian retaliation. He said,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe now they'll negotiate seriously. They should have made a deal.

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<v Speaker 3>Trump added, I couldn't get them to a deal in

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<v Speaker 3>sixty days. I were close. They should have done it.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe now it'll happen. Despite the president's admission, mister Trump

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<v Speaker 3>suggested he's not given up on reaching a revised nuclear

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<v Speaker 3>agreement with Iran. The Israeli strikes came days before a

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<v Speaker 3>scheduled sixth round of indirect talks between US Special Middle

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<v Speaker 3>East Envoys Steve Whitkoff and Iranian officials. Oftentimes, a source

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<v Speaker 3>to the White House told The Post of the administration's

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<v Speaker 3>thinking Friday. Pain is the best form of persuasion. Barbara says,

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<v Speaker 3>why do so many people have troubles saying nuclear? Very

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<v Speaker 3>good question. I don't know. It's not a particularly difficult word.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't have thought, but as someone who talks for

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<v Speaker 3>a living, we can't nail everything, and nuclear from many

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<v Speaker 3>of us is not difficult. But it seems political leadership

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<v Speaker 3>in Australia, particularly on one side of the spectrum nuclear

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<v Speaker 3>is just I can think of three of them, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>one of them. You just heard Jeff says. You think

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<v Speaker 3>at least the Defense Minister could pronounce the word nuclear.

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<v Speaker 3>Why are people so unkind? Thank you, Jeff Michael. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't talk about colleagues, but thank you for getting in touch.

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder what he said one three one eight seven

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<v Speaker 3>three zero course zero eight seven three eight seven three.

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<v Speaker 3>We better take a braak. Look, well, I play another

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<v Speaker 3>Brian Wilson sign. We're going to do some Brian. I

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<v Speaker 3>am going to play another Brian Wilson song. I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's the least we can do. And I think this

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<v Speaker 3>was made famous well. It was made famous by the

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<v Speaker 3>Beach Boys, and it was made famous from memory by

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<v Speaker 3>well that the soccer pools or lotto or something. Wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>it be nice? May sixteen parts Mendo, there you go,

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<v Speaker 3>beach boys. Wouldn't it be nice? One of my listeners,

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<v Speaker 3>who is it Phil? We have a wooden knit in Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>Then he suggests it's a senior politician. I might just

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<v Speaker 3>we'll try and be kind here, Cadbury. Wouldn't it be

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<v Speaker 3>nice if the world was chocolate? I think was one

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<v Speaker 3>ad here? Certainly the lotto ad and that too. You're right,

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<v Speaker 3>and other listeners as if the protagonists are going to

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<v Speaker 3>take notice of anything, Miles ab Elbow or Penny Wong

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<v Speaker 3>a calling laborer known as Andti Israel, they should put

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<v Speaker 3>dummies in their mouth. Okay, thank you for that. Thank

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<v Speaker 3>you Simon for getting in touch. Any chance of playing

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<v Speaker 3>Barbara and well, we'll see. I think there's perhaps a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit of Barbara and coming your way. As stupid

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<v Speaker 3>Australian politicians, you don't talk to your enemy, you kill them.

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<v Speaker 3>Lewis telling it like it is Virginia. Why are people

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<v Speaker 3>so pedantic? I think people have an expectation that if

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<v Speaker 3>you are elected to high office, you might just have

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<v Speaker 3>some idea about the use of the language. We have

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<v Speaker 3>in this country. I don't think it's pedantic. I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's calling out perhaps a decline in standards. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>if the significant leadership can't say the word, we shouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>be over. The concerns should be that kids are failing

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<v Speaker 3>on the global stage. Seriously. Used to have standards eye

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<v Speaker 3>the old days. Now we just put up with any

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<v Speaker 3>old crap. Well done, We'll take a break. Craig Bennett,

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<v Speaker 3>in just a moment just on the text ingrad says,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm with you, Luke at please the way I suppose

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<v Speaker 3>that the intelligent don't pronounce words, I should know how

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<v Speaker 3>to pronounce well, I mean there is, whether they like

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<v Speaker 3>it or not, there is an influence these people have

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<v Speaker 3>over others. And it's the same when these is to

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<v Speaker 3>be standards. And I'm probably the old bloke on the radio,

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<v Speaker 3>but guess what I am. You know you don't just

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<v Speaker 3>get to turn up in the Senate with an open

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<v Speaker 3>neck shirt and a jacket. It's a bit more respect. Please,

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<v Speaker 3>we're a bloody tie like it's always been the chance.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd always been the thing. And if there comes a

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<v Speaker 3>time where together we think okay we can ease off

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<v Speaker 3>do it. But you don't. It's not Twitter. You don't

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<v Speaker 3>get just to do your own thing. You don't get

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<v Speaker 3>to invent how a word's pronounced or not. And it's

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<v Speaker 3>a lack of respect. I know I'm the old bloke

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<v Speaker 3>on the radio, but I can do with it. A

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people are agreeing with the old bloke on

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<v Speaker 3>the radio. I have to say, just an old bloke

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<v Speaker 3>on the radio. Tomorrow is World Elder Abuse Day. This

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<v Speaker 3>sickens me. If you have abuse an older person, you're

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<v Speaker 3>a gutless you know what, You're gutless. Now. What shames

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<v Speaker 3>me is that more than one in six older Australians

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<v Speaker 3>experienced elder abuse and over sixty percent of them don't

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<v Speaker 3>report it. And partly they're frightened of reporting it. And

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<v Speaker 3>the other part of that is because in the old days,

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<v Speaker 3>oh here he goes again, the old blog in the radio,

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<v Speaker 3>you just got on with things even though today they're

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<v Speaker 3>not tolerable. Don't not report them, report them. But you

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<v Speaker 3>know now, oh he looked at me, funny, that bloke. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but he didn't. He wasn't no, but I thought he

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<v Speaker 3>looked at me funny. That's not right. Having me come

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<v Speaker 3>a long way can't talk. Everyone's a victim, and we'll

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<v Speaker 3>just decide what standards exist. I don't normally like to

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<v Speaker 3>get angry at the end of the show and fight

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<v Speaker 3>up about stuff, but something's really peed me off. Forgive

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<v Speaker 3>me for that.

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<v Speaker 1>I know what will bring me happiness this gramm, the

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<v Speaker 1>smelling souls industrial strength if you have them, and don't

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<v Speaker 1>forget the pickle juice, because it's time for starstroke with

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<v Speaker 1>Craig Bennett.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, Craig Bennett is with us, and I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>anyone in the world best better equipped to tell us

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<v Speaker 3>about the life and times of Brian Wilson, the genius

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<v Speaker 3>behind the Beach Boys and all these great songs. Yeah, look,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's not unfair to refer to him as

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<v Speaker 3>a genius as I say, a very good afternoon to you,

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<v Speaker 3>Craig Bennett, the life and times of Brian Wilson, Boyd.

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<v Speaker 3>There were some songs there.

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<v Speaker 20>Right, there were some songs there. Might I say, Luke Grant,

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<v Speaker 20>a very good afternoon to you. And I'm always thrilled

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<v Speaker 20>to be your happy pill or your little endow accelerator.

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<v Speaker 20>You know, well, it can happen when you covering bad

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<v Speaker 20>news and you just need a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 20>little bit of a kick in the right direction. I'm

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<v Speaker 20>happy to be your mate. You're right. Genius. There is

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<v Speaker 20>a word that absolutely applies to the brilliance of Brian Wilson. Look,

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<v Speaker 20>as Elton John said, a musical revolutionary. We know he

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<v Speaker 20>was a singer, a songwriter, producer, one of the founders,

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<v Speaker 20>as you mentioned, of the Beach Boys, a band that

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<v Speaker 20>you think about it nineteen sixty one when it kicked

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<v Speaker 20>off to now has sold over one hundred million records

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<v Speaker 20>and counting. And he played some of those iconic songs

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<v Speaker 20>Surf for USA. Of course there were surfer Girl, Surfing Safari,

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<v Speaker 20>wouldn't it be nice? Good vibrations with in that mix?

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<v Speaker 20>Helped me Ronda California girls so many We could go

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<v Speaker 20>on all avo and you know I can so. But

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<v Speaker 20>you think Brian wrote or co wrote all of those

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<v Speaker 20>and dozens more songs, and I guess, as we all know.

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<v Speaker 20>Thursday morning, the newsale through that Brian had been gathered

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<v Speaker 20>snatched from the world left us in Los Angeelus in fact,

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<v Speaker 20>a week shy of what would have been his eighty

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<v Speaker 20>third birthday. And friends, Look, they came out rather philosophical,

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<v Speaker 20>I think Luke saying, knowing all that he'd been through

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<v Speaker 20>and certainly how his last few years had played out,

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<v Speaker 20>hoping that he was now finally at peace, look maybe

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<v Speaker 20>even reunited with his brothers. Of course, his Beach Boys

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<v Speaker 20>co stars Carl and Dennis Wilson, both of whom died.

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<v Speaker 20>Oh tell you about that. During his time away from

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<v Speaker 20>the Beach Boys, he released fifteen solo albums wonderful solo singer.

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<v Speaker 20>His first was Brian Wilson that came out in nineteen

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<v Speaker 20>eighty eight, and it's charting again. See when somebody a

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<v Speaker 20>great like this stars all of a sudden, they have

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<v Speaker 20>zooming to the top of the charts all round the place.

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<v Speaker 20>His last album was released four years ago and it

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<v Speaker 20>was called Brian Wilson Long Promised Road. Look in his life,

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<v Speaker 20>two Grammy Awards, sitting on his mantle, Revered by fans

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<v Speaker 20>and music superstars alike. He was dubbed the reigning King

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<v Speaker 20>of Pop melody. And despite what appeared to be in

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<v Speaker 20>terms of fame and fortune, this magic carpet ride his

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<v Speaker 20>private life. So you flipped the coin. The private life

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<v Speaker 20>was a tumultuous doesn't even touch the sides. You know,

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<v Speaker 20>we go from an abusive father. I'll, in fact tell

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<v Speaker 20>you what Brian's father, Murray used to do with his

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<v Speaker 20>glass eye, because his dad had a glass eye. You'll

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<v Speaker 20>be absolutely shocked. And Brian claims, in fact, it was

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<v Speaker 20>what his dad used to do with his glass eye

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<v Speaker 20>that kind of got him on drugs in the first place.

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<v Speaker 20>So look, there were the drugs, the booze, shocking mental breakdowns,

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<v Speaker 20>schizophrenic episodes. He became this recluse and would spend months

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<v Speaker 20>at a stretch in bed. He over eight and became

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<v Speaker 20>morbidly obese. He was at one stage under the sway

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<v Speaker 20>of this brainwashing shrink. For forty years, Brian Wilson had

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<v Speaker 20>been haunted by the voice of his dead father telling

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<v Speaker 20>him that he was essentially useless, he was worthless, no

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<v Speaker 20>point in you living an more. And so I mean

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<v Speaker 20>Brian took that to heed for decades. He was driven

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<v Speaker 20>to despair by hallucinations and other voices. Not just his

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<v Speaker 20>father was look. He so hated himself. At one point

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<v Speaker 20>in time he even dug his own grave. He tried

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<v Speaker 20>to drive a car off a cliff. He was diagnosed

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<v Speaker 20>with Schitzo effective disorder He in fact wrote about all

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<v Speaker 20>of this in a memoir that for those who love

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<v Speaker 20>Brian Wilson, the Beach Boys and that whole genre of music,

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<v Speaker 20>and all those involved in this incredible memoir, I Am

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<v Speaker 20>Brian Wilson that came out back in twenty sixteen that

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<v Speaker 20>the detailed what could only be described as epic heis

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<v Speaker 20>and absolutely crushing lows. Two marriages, seven kids. In fact,

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<v Speaker 20>two of his daughters, Carney and Wendy, formed or formed

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<v Speaker 20>two thirds of Wilson Phillips, with Trina Phillips of course,

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<v Speaker 20>the daughter of the Mummers, and the pappas John and

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<v Speaker 20>Michelle Phillips making up the other third. Look, it is Luke,

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<v Speaker 20>a shocker of a story. We go from music genius

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<v Speaker 20>but the devil by an abusive father, and then interestingly

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<v Speaker 20>how two years of age hearing the music of all people,

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<v Speaker 20>George Gershwin completely changed his life forever. And of course

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<v Speaker 20>then it's the sadness of his longtime feud with cousin

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<v Speaker 20>and Beach Boys great Mike Love but did they repair

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<v Speaker 20>that riff just before Brian sailed away last week?

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<v Speaker 6>So it's one hell of a story, That's all I

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<v Speaker 6>got to say.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, we'll take a break and come back with

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<v Speaker 3>all of that next and we are living the life

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<v Speaker 3>of the genius. It was Brian Wilson through the words

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<v Speaker 3>the eyes of Craig Bennett, and he's about to pick

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<v Speaker 3>up with some stuff. And I just want to say

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<v Speaker 3>to you, mate that even though we have a somber

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<v Speaker 3>tone today because we lost Brian this week, our friend

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<v Speaker 3>Mick from Winston Hills says, Luke, I know Craig's only

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<v Speaker 3>scratched the surface, but I'm already heavily into the smelling salts.

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<v Speaker 3>That's good. Thank you Mick for letting us know that

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<v Speaker 3>we were wondering, both of us, weren't we We were.

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<v Speaker 20>And I also have another message from Steven sim Tweedheads,

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<v Speaker 20>who has been asking me now for quite some time

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<v Speaker 20>to talk the life and times of Brian Wilson when

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<v Speaker 20>Brian was alive. He's no longer. And Stephen did also

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<v Speaker 20>say that he would have the smelling salts very firmly

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<v Speaker 20>in his grip. I think that's I think that's very

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<v Speaker 20>why so Brian Wilson, That's how he was born, that

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<v Speaker 20>was his name in Los Angeles. As I mentioned, Luke,

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<v Speaker 20>he'd be turning eighty three next week next Friday. Left

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<v Speaker 20>us last Thursday after a life that was a roller

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<v Speaker 20>coaster only way to describe it. He was the eldest

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<v Speaker 20>of three kids, so he has two brothers, or had

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<v Speaker 20>two brothers. They're all dead now, Dennis and Carl, So

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<v Speaker 20>along with their cousin Mike Love and Brian's school friend

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<v Speaker 20>Al Jardine, they were the original Beach Boys lineup, and

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<v Speaker 20>we'll get to that shortly. So Brian's dad, Murray, was

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<v Speaker 20>a machinist who then became something of a songwriter, and

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<v Speaker 20>then he looked after the Beach Boys as their manager

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<v Speaker 20>for a bit. And so there was Brian's mum who

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<v Speaker 20>basically looked after the three kids, a homemaker, I think

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<v Speaker 20>you'd say in the old days. So, according to Brian,

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<v Speaker 20>Dennis and Carl, their dad could have spats of being

2:13:22.560 --> 2:13:28.400
<v Speaker 20>hideously abusive verbally physically. Brian had lifelong hearing problems in

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<v Speaker 20>his right ear, and it had been suggested this could

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<v Speaker 20>have come about from having been beaten around the head

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<v Speaker 20>by his father, but that's never been confirmed. It certainly

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<v Speaker 20>that's what's been speculated in an array of biographies on

2:13:40.760 --> 2:13:43.320
<v Speaker 20>the life and times of Brian Wilson. Now, when he

2:13:43.480 --> 2:13:47.600
<v Speaker 20>was two he heard George Gershwin's Wonderful Rhapsody in Blue,

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<v Speaker 20>and that changed his life forever. From that moment, Brian,

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<v Speaker 20>even as a top he reacted to music. He began

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<v Speaker 20>harmonizing and was from the moment he opened his mouth

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<v Speaker 20>in that kind of song way pitch perfect. His dad, Murray,

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<v Speaker 20>encouraged all of his sons, his three sons, into music.

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<v Speaker 20>They took accordion lessons, they sang in school and church choirs.

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<v Speaker 20>And then when Murray brought home an upright piano and

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<v Speaker 20>not upright Piano'brian he was twelve, then taught himself how

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<v Speaker 20>to play. Look, he began writing songs. He just had

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<v Speaker 20>this exquisitely naturally of the music. But it songwriting, be

2:14:23.680 --> 2:14:27.600
<v Speaker 20>it harmonizing, singing, or playing instruments. He was just one

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<v Speaker 20>of those naturals. As a teenager, worked sweeping out a

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<v Speaker 20>jewelry store to earn a bit of money. And then

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<v Speaker 20>in nineteen sixty one, so he's what they're nineteen, he

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<v Speaker 20>pens a song called Surfer Girl, and together with his

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<v Speaker 20>brothers Dennis and Carl, cousin Mike Love and their friend

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<v Speaker 20>or his friend from school al they form a group

2:14:47.400 --> 2:14:51.280
<v Speaker 20>called the Pendletones, which was named after a type of

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<v Speaker 20>woolen shirt, the Pendleton, that they wore back in the day.

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<v Speaker 20>Now the group signed a record deal. The record company

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<v Speaker 20>changed their name to the Beach Boys after Dennis, who

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<v Speaker 20>was in fact the only real surf of the group,

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<v Speaker 20>suggested they start writing songs about the style and that

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<v Speaker 20>kind of you know, really, now it's iconic, that surfy

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<v Speaker 20>culture of southern California. The original record company win broke,

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<v Speaker 20>so they signed a seven to deal with Capitol Records.

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<v Speaker 20>That was nineteen sixty two, and as they say in

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<v Speaker 20>the classics, the rest is history. Look sadly, there was

2:15:22.920 --> 2:15:26.800
<v Speaker 20>always drama surrounding Brian. So, for instance, nineteen sixty four,

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<v Speaker 20>the guys are off on a tour. They're coming back

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<v Speaker 20>from one leg of the tour, and he suffered this

2:15:31.600 --> 2:15:34.879
<v Speaker 20>freak out on board a flight from Los Angeles to Houston.

2:15:35.520 --> 2:15:38.920
<v Speaker 20>At one point he was replaced by Glenn Campbell. In

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<v Speaker 20>the early sixties, Brian started using marijuana and hashi. She

2:15:43.240 --> 2:15:46.120
<v Speaker 20>was drinking. He took to his bed on and off,

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<v Speaker 20>sometimes for months at a stretch. He'd wander around out

2:15:50.680 --> 2:15:55.440
<v Speaker 20>in public talking a hugely famous man in his pajamas

2:15:55.560 --> 2:15:58.520
<v Speaker 20>that were kind of hanging down round his knees and whatever.

2:15:59.320 --> 2:16:03.280
<v Speaker 20>He started binge eating, ballooning to one hundred and forty kilos,

2:16:03.640 --> 2:16:06.600
<v Speaker 20>and that was in the seventies. He plunged into these

2:16:06.720 --> 2:16:11.560
<v Speaker 20>wild depressions, could barely work, refused to tour. He had

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<v Speaker 20>this sandbox in his lounge room and like a baby,

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<v Speaker 20>like a kid, would sit and play in the sandbox

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<v Speaker 20>with plastic rakes and things for days. When he took

2:16:21.880 --> 2:16:26.839
<v Speaker 20>to his bed, he barely moved, refused to wash or shave, serious,

2:16:26.960 --> 2:16:30.480
<v Speaker 20>serious problems. He wrote in his Eye and Brian memoir,

2:16:30.600 --> 2:16:33.600
<v Speaker 20>how his father, whom he described as a deranged drunk,

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<v Speaker 20>had this glass eye, and what he'd do is it

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<v Speaker 20>would take the glass eye out, and he forced his

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<v Speaker 20>three sons to peer into the hole behind that glass eye,

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<v Speaker 20>and this freaked all of them out. And his dad

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<v Speaker 20>kind of got this weird kick, this perverse kick, out

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<v Speaker 20>of making the kids look into the hole where the

2:16:52.600 --> 2:16:57.480
<v Speaker 20>glass eye sat. And Brian said, reconciling that kind of

2:16:57.879 --> 2:17:01.520
<v Speaker 20>horror and why would you do that sort of launched

2:17:01.560 --> 2:17:04.920
<v Speaker 20>him into drugs. Look since nineteen sixty five, he claimed

2:17:05.280 --> 2:17:09.520
<v Speaker 20>to be haunted by hallucinations and these disembodied voices, all

2:17:09.600 --> 2:17:12.400
<v Speaker 20>of which got worse when his father died, because then

2:17:12.440 --> 2:17:14.880
<v Speaker 20>he began hearing the voices of his father. He's saying

2:17:14.920 --> 2:17:18.040
<v Speaker 20>these awful things. Brian thought Satan was after him. At

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<v Speaker 20>one point, he dug a hole in the backyard of

2:17:20.640 --> 2:17:23.800
<v Speaker 20>his Beverly Hills home and he asked his gardeners to

2:17:23.840 --> 2:17:27.200
<v Speaker 20>push him in and cover him with dirt. On another occasion,

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<v Speaker 20>he tried to drive his car off a cliff, and

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<v Speaker 20>then he tried to drive his car off the Santa

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<v Speaker 20>Monica Peer. He came under the sway of this brainwashing.

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<v Speaker 20>Shrink is the only way to frame this guy. Doctor

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<v Speaker 20>Eugene Landy, who completely manipulated Brian Wilson's life, got him

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<v Speaker 20>into other drugs like LSD, all these sort of psychotrophic drugs,

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<v Speaker 20>refuted that Brian had schizophrenic issues, which other doctors were saying,

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<v Speaker 20>I think this is what your problem is, and doctor

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<v Speaker 20>Landy would say, no, it's not at all. Your problem is.

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<v Speaker 20>You are just scared. You have to overcome this fear.

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<v Speaker 20>So we've got all that. Look to his private life,

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<v Speaker 20>married twice, first wife was a singer, Marilyn Rovel, who

2:18:10.640 --> 2:18:13.279
<v Speaker 20>sang with her sisters in a group called the Honeys.

2:18:13.320 --> 2:18:13.440
<v Speaker 17>Now.

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<v Speaker 20>She met Brian back in nineteen sixty two at a

2:18:15.879 --> 2:18:18.960
<v Speaker 20>nightclub in la She was fifteen, probably shouldn't have been there,

2:18:19.000 --> 2:18:21.200
<v Speaker 20>he was twenty one. They met over a cup of

2:18:21.240 --> 2:18:21.840
<v Speaker 20>hot chocolate.

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<v Speaker 6>I just want you to know.

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<v Speaker 20>They wed a few years later nineteen sixty four. Had

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<v Speaker 20>two daughters, Carne and Wendy, now both singers Wilson Phillips.

2:18:29.840 --> 2:18:33.240
<v Speaker 20>Brian and Marylyn divorced in it was nineteen seventy nine,

2:18:33.280 --> 2:18:36.800
<v Speaker 20>but not before he'd had an affair with Marylyn's sister Diane.

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<v Speaker 20>He then married Melinda Ledbetter as her name nineteen ninety five.

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<v Speaker 20>They adopted five kids. Melinda had been a used car dealer,

2:18:48.200 --> 2:18:51.119
<v Speaker 20>but then went on to become Brian's manager very successfully.

2:18:51.600 --> 2:18:55.360
<v Speaker 20>They remained blissfully married until her death last year. In fact,

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<v Speaker 20>they first met in the eighties when she sold him

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<v Speaker 20>a Cadillac. So there you go. It was Melinda who

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<v Speaker 20>got Brian back on track, helped him finish off albums

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<v Speaker 20>because there are all sorts of threads in his life

2:19:07.000 --> 2:19:10.000
<v Speaker 20>that hadn't been tidied up. She got him out of

2:19:10.040 --> 2:19:14.440
<v Speaker 20>the clutches of doctor Landy. Their love story played out

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<v Speaker 20>in a wonderful movie twenty fourteen. I think it came

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<v Speaker 20>out Love and Mercy, of course, after one of Brian

2:19:20.160 --> 2:19:24.360
<v Speaker 20>Wilson's fabulous song. It was a movie that starred Paul

2:19:24.480 --> 2:19:28.080
<v Speaker 20>Dano as the young Brian Wilson, John Cusack as the

2:19:28.160 --> 2:19:32.039
<v Speaker 20>older Brian Wilson, and Elizabeth Banks played his wife. Now Look,

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<v Speaker 20>after Melinda's death and with Brian having been diagnosed with

2:19:36.360 --> 2:19:41.760
<v Speaker 20>dementia last year, he then went into this guardianship situation

2:19:41.840 --> 2:19:43.800
<v Speaker 20>where he was looked after by two friends and of

2:19:43.879 --> 2:19:47.080
<v Speaker 20>course his kids all very close. Now, during those decades

2:19:47.120 --> 2:19:50.520
<v Speaker 20>of mental health horrors, there were lawsuits that flew over royalties.

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<v Speaker 20>He had this massive falling out with Mike Love, his cousin,

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<v Speaker 20>who sued him several times, claiming that he'd been ousted

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<v Speaker 20>on the songwriting credits. How it wasn't Brian Wilson who

2:20:01.480 --> 2:20:05.280
<v Speaker 20>wrote some of those songs solo, that Mike had written

2:20:05.320 --> 2:20:07.320
<v Speaker 20>them with him. And in fact Brian had to pay

2:20:07.480 --> 2:20:10.880
<v Speaker 20>five million dollars at some point for songwriting royalties that

2:20:11.000 --> 2:20:13.360
<v Speaker 20>at that point in time had gone unpaid. Look, he

2:20:13.480 --> 2:20:15.600
<v Speaker 20>was rocked by the death of his two brothers, there

2:20:15.720 --> 2:20:19.080
<v Speaker 20>was Dennis Wilson who drowned in nineteen eighty three. He

2:20:19.160 --> 2:20:22.920
<v Speaker 20>had been partying on a boat and jumped overboard and

2:20:23.480 --> 2:20:26.320
<v Speaker 20>something happened and he drowned. That was off the coast

2:20:26.400 --> 2:20:29.720
<v Speaker 20>of Los Angeles. And Carl Wilson died of lung cancer

2:20:29.800 --> 2:20:31.880
<v Speaker 20>in nineteen ninety eight. And of course, with all of

2:20:32.320 --> 2:20:35.400
<v Speaker 20>Brian's issues, he would then be hearing the voices of

2:20:35.480 --> 2:20:37.520
<v Speaker 20>his dead brothers as well on top of his dead

2:20:37.600 --> 2:20:41.160
<v Speaker 20>father and Satan, and heavens knows what else. Look despite

2:20:41.280 --> 2:20:45.040
<v Speaker 20>his tumultuous mental state and what by virtue of that

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<v Speaker 20>was a crazed live luke. He revered his wife Melinda,

2:20:49.400 --> 2:20:53.520
<v Speaker 20>loved his seven kids, loved his music, and Carne Wilson

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<v Speaker 20>said in a social media post it was on Friday yesterday,

2:20:57.879 --> 2:21:00.600
<v Speaker 20>but she hopes her dad is up there playing with

2:21:00.760 --> 2:21:04.080
<v Speaker 20>his mum, who he treasured, and his beloved late late

2:21:04.160 --> 2:21:08.440
<v Speaker 20>wife Melinda, my love, who, as I've just said, had

2:21:08.520 --> 2:21:14.080
<v Speaker 20>this difficult relationship with Brian. Wilson also attempted to make

2:21:14.120 --> 2:21:17.880
<v Speaker 20>amends near the end. No word on a cause of

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<v Speaker 20>death at this point in time or funeral plans, but

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<v Speaker 20>you know, gosh, I'll tell you what he leaves behind.

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<v Speaker 20>Something in the vicinity of one hundred million dollars. He

2:21:27.920 --> 2:21:30.280
<v Speaker 20>made a fortune, lost of fortune and kind of made

2:21:30.320 --> 2:21:33.480
<v Speaker 20>it all back again. And there is absolutely no doubting

2:21:33.760 --> 2:21:38.200
<v Speaker 20>his music genius and what that incredible legacy will be.

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<v Speaker 3>You may mention of Gershwin, and it was maybe ten

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<v Speaker 3>years or more ago now that he actually put out

2:21:48.080 --> 2:21:50.760
<v Speaker 3>an album. Do you remember that reimagines Gershwin?

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<v Speaker 20>I do, And there you now know, why don't you do?

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<v Speaker 20>George Gershwin was just it was like literally the first

2:21:58.320 --> 2:22:02.160
<v Speaker 20>piece of music he heard, and that's where his life.

2:22:02.240 --> 2:22:04.840
<v Speaker 20>It was like this epiphany, even at two years of age.

2:22:04.920 --> 2:22:08.000
<v Speaker 20>He was just drawn to it, reacted to it. And

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<v Speaker 20>I guess looking back over, that is probably why he

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<v Speaker 20>reimagined the music of Gershwin, among others, in that particular

2:22:15.640 --> 2:22:16.800
<v Speaker 20>album you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I just noticed on Apple Music, and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 3>this is just coincidental. But on May thirty he released

2:22:27.120 --> 2:22:33.119
<v Speaker 3>a single someone called Jeffrey Foskett called Mary Honey.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh didn't know that, You know what?

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<v Speaker 20>For me, it's nice to be surprised from time to time.

2:22:42.240 --> 2:22:45.640
<v Speaker 20>Normally I'm on the floor in shock myself, having run

2:22:45.680 --> 2:22:48.360
<v Speaker 20>out of smelling salts and there's not a drop of

2:22:48.440 --> 2:22:53.359
<v Speaker 20>pickle juice left in the suburb. So you know, Unfortunately,

2:22:53.400 --> 2:22:55.879
<v Speaker 20>when I'm shocked like that and I don't have any remedies,

2:22:56.280 --> 2:22:57.320
<v Speaker 20>this could be parlours.

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<v Speaker 3>Have a good weekend.

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<v Speaker 11>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>That's outstanding. Cat Okay, bye bye. Wonderful, isn't it. Craig

2:23:04.800 --> 2:23:09.039
<v Speaker 3>Bennett Payne tribute to Brian Wilson. I've been looking at

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<v Speaker 3>the Beach Boys music all week and I've got this

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<v Speaker 3>Apple Music thing, like I guess lots of people do,

2:23:13.760 --> 2:23:16.440
<v Speaker 3>or they use Spotify or other things. I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 3>that there was a single release on When was it

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<v Speaker 3>May twenty, May thirty. I'll listened to it through the break.

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<v Speaker 3>If it's any good, we'll share what we can of it.

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<v Speaker 3>on a Saturday, What the hell?

2:24:03.520 --> 2:24:07.120
<v Speaker 18>Breaking news? Brinie's in the house. Yes, he's going overseas tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 18>So he's done a little switching.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's he playing? Swaps he's with?

2:24:10.800 --> 2:24:13.040
<v Speaker 18>I don't know, Actually I probably should look into that.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't really care because it's Sunday.

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<v Speaker 18>No, And I to be honest, like Josh Morris was

2:24:17.640 --> 2:24:19.280
<v Speaker 18>with this last night and he sounded like a one

2:24:19.320 --> 2:24:21.840
<v Speaker 18>a hundred call girl so to speak, really with that

2:24:22.000 --> 2:24:25.480
<v Speaker 18>really husky sexy voice. Oh he's got well, he's already

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<v Speaker 18>been replaced for tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, you can't.

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<v Speaker 18>You haven't even waken up to know if you're sick yet,

2:24:29.160 --> 2:24:30.200
<v Speaker 18>and you're already calling him sick.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm working with people who are soft. I'm here well

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<v Speaker 3>or Shie. What about pig Myster? I love you Piggy?

2:24:36.600 --> 2:24:38.960
<v Speaker 3>What about pig Master? On Friday?

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<v Speaker 18>They called in sick on Friday wasn't there on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 3>What sort of people are we working with here?

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<v Speaker 14>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>And you know we could go elsewhere with this. We won't.

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<v Speaker 3>Where are we going. We're not going anywhere publicly.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, you started it.

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<v Speaker 3>You started off, you said you're working with soft people.

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<v Speaker 3>Well I am well right then?

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<v Speaker 18>They men as you, Josh Morrison, Mark big name.

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<v Speaker 3>Others are a soft. Let's name everyone here that's soft.

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<v Speaker 3>You go first, Darryl Braman, okay, right out of time,

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<v Speaker 3>thanks mate. Knights and Roosters.

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<v Speaker 18>Yeah, two games tonight, Knights and Roosters. I'll call the

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<v Speaker 18>first one. Cowboys and Dolphins is the late game.

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<v Speaker 6>Just on that.

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<v Speaker 3>The big man wrapped your calling before in a private conversation. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you, he wrapped it, Love you, dar. He's very

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<v Speaker 3>happy out there.

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<v Speaker 18>We just had some macs delivered from our mates and

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<v Speaker 18>McDonald's right sponsors back to here.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you?

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<v Speaker 3>Anything else you know?

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<v Speaker 10>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>The other game?

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<v Speaker 18>Oh, Cowboys and Dolphins is the other game. A couple

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<v Speaker 18>of really interesting games actually tonight and then last night,

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<v Speaker 18>excuse me, the Titans an upset over the Seagulls. I

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<v Speaker 18>don't know what's happened to Manly as soon as Daily

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<v Speaker 18>Cherry Evans news came out that he was leaving the club.

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<v Speaker 3>They've gone like bustards.

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<v Speaker 18>A lot of manly fans not happy how they're beaten

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<v Speaker 18>with a full strength side by Titans side missing their

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<v Speaker 18>origin players.

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<v Speaker 3>What's doing? It's a rumor he's going to South Sydney.

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<v Speaker 3>No Roosters, your boys?

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<v Speaker 6>Do you want him?

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<v Speaker 3>Cove Iden? I love the young call too much to

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<v Speaker 3>have an opinion on that. You've become a fence hitter.

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<v Speaker 3>I have not. Well, do you want to respect uncle Nick? Well,

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<v Speaker 3>because he's got plenty No, because he makes he makes

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<v Speaker 3>a call, and with his love of the club and

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<v Speaker 3>his support, the club's existed where in other cases it

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<v Speaker 3>might not have. And if he's made a call, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>do a bill shortan on Julia Gillard, I say I

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<v Speaker 3>support whatever Nick supports. See you, buddy, good bye? Oh

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<v Speaker 3>god oo. Let's say it out to Craig Hi, Craig

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<v Speaker 3>made him?

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<v Speaker 11>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>How are you traveling?

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<v Speaker 20>Oh?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not too bad for an old fellow.

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<v Speaker 11>With every increasing ball patch, with a what.

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<v Speaker 10>Ever increasing ball patch?

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<v Speaker 3>Brian Wilson, we lost this week primary songwriter for which

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<v Speaker 3>group other Beast Boys, Which Australian actor won a Tony

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<v Speaker 3>Award for Best Leading Actress this week. Paul Hogan or

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<v Speaker 3>Sarah Snook? Sarah well done? Which as Prime Minister was

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<v Speaker 3>recognized during the King's Birthday Honors? Was it Malcolm Turnbull

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<v Speaker 3>or Scott Morrison?

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<v Speaker 14>Scott Morrison and.

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<v Speaker 3>You with the ever increasing ball patch will have the

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<v Speaker 3>best night's sleep of your life very soon. Well played, Craig,

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks a lot for listening. Thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 3>your company today. Back tomorrow at nine o'clock. Michael Schubridge

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<v Speaker 3>talking about the latest Israel and Iran. What happens next?

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<v Speaker 3>Nick Caldas our amazing, remarkable Australian. He was recognizing the

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<v Speaker 3>King's Birthday Honors a week back now. Jim Haines talking

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<v Speaker 3>about Oussie movies. Were you in a naughty movie? Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>an extra or something? And these family law changes will

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<v Speaker 3>get to them as well. All that coming up tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>Enjoybot Selective today, Bye bye

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