WEBVTT - Why Australia needs 'dad lessons'

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<v Speaker 1>Nine Podcasts.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, this is Neil Mitchell. This is what I think.

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<v Speaker 2>My weekly podcast of editor of Opinions, which sits with

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<v Speaker 2>my weekly podcasts of interviews. That's each Tuesday, Neil Mitchell

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<v Speaker 2>asks why, and each Thursday we post my views of

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<v Speaker 2>the world. This week, Fatherhood, loyalty, World War III is

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<v Speaker 2>a trifecta for you and a bit more. I also

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<v Speaker 2>want your comments on the issues in your life that

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<v Speaker 2>the world is perhaps ignoring Neil dot Mitchell at nine

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<v Speaker 2>dot com dot au or any comments at all. First,

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<v Speaker 2>very gradually, a huge change is unfolding behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 2>in our world and our lives. Loyalty is dead. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not just dying. Loyalty is dead. It was once considered

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<v Speaker 2>a great human attribute, along with honesty and modesty and empathy.

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<v Speaker 2>Not Now, loyalty is gone. If you're loyal, you're viewed

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<v Speaker 2>as a bit of a mug, anachronistic at the best.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I've done one of my one man research efforts

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<v Speaker 2>on the millennials and gen Z workers in my orbit.

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<v Speaker 2>To a person they said they had absolutely no loyalty

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<v Speaker 2>to their employer. To a person they said they would

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<v Speaker 2>change jobs, walk out the door at a moment's notice.

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<v Speaker 2>If something better came along for them. As a big change,

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<v Speaker 2>Boomers may well be the last generation that has loyalty

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<v Speaker 2>to the company. Now isn't just about the availability of work,

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<v Speaker 2>it's an attitude behind the change. These generations seem to

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<v Speaker 2>have grown with the belief the boss will only screw you.

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<v Speaker 2>Perhaps they're right. Individual managers might be okay and decent employers,

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<v Speaker 2>but in the end, these people argue, the further you

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<v Speaker 2>go up the tree with the boss, the less they

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<v Speaker 2>are likely to show loyalty. Several of those I surveyed

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<v Speaker 2>said to me, they'll dump me at a moment if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm of no use to them or less use, So

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<v Speaker 2>why should I be loyal to them? Now? You must ask, though,

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<v Speaker 2>if loyalty disappears in the workplace, does it become tarnished elsewhere?

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<v Speaker 2>Is the loyalty still in marriages or relationships? Is the

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<v Speaker 2>loyalty to family or friends? If loyalty is discarded as

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<v Speaker 2>an attribute at one level, it could be discarded at others. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I agree loyalty should be earned. That's fair enough, but

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<v Speaker 2>it can also be an expectation, and a reasonable one. Nowadays,

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<v Speaker 2>there's more likely to be a debate about the right

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<v Speaker 2>to disconnect and the payment of overtime. I can see

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<v Speaker 2>why I find a bit sad. There are also political

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<v Speaker 2>implications to this. Emerging generations are far less likely to

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<v Speaker 2>show political loyalty to one party. There'll be a mass

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<v Speaker 2>of swinging voters out there waiting to be seduced at

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<v Speaker 2>each election. It's already happening. Of course, the damn politicians

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<v Speaker 2>haven't helped. Politicians have always changed teams, usually with a

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<v Speaker 2>large dose of self interest. After this election, the recent election,

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<v Speaker 2>just days after being re elected as a National Party representative,

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<v Speaker 2>Senator Jacinta Price changed to Liberals. She wanted to be

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<v Speaker 2>deputy leader, missed out, so she changed now or missed

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<v Speaker 2>out with the Liberals, now a Green senator. During the

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<v Speaker 2>Cox has gone from Green's to Labor. She was also

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<v Speaker 2>burnt in a leadership ballot, and her ex mates are

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<v Speaker 2>leaking against her. Somebody has leaked a private text from

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<v Speaker 2>Senator Cox saying Pauline Hansen was quote and effing retard

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<v Speaker 2>and effing retard unquote very nice, but not much loyalty

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<v Speaker 2>from the person who received it. Now, all this has

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<v Speaker 2>happened before. Jackie Lamby went from Clive Palmer's party to

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<v Speaker 2>her own, but having two within days of being elected,

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<v Speaker 2>in my view, that should be it. They're not electors individuals,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly in the Senate, I reckon they change party, that

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<v Speaker 2>should be it. Out of the Parliament, have a new

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<v Speaker 2>by election or in the Senator new appointment. No mucking around.

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<v Speaker 2>You show that sort of disloyalty. You change parties. I

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<v Speaker 2>think you're effectively donning the public. Whatever the reason, good night, sunshine.

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<v Speaker 2>Footballers have got very little loyalty. NRL and AFL players

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<v Speaker 2>jump around clubs for a dollar, and who can blame them?

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<v Speaker 2>Some even play with one after apparently agreeing to go

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<v Speaker 2>to another, and the next season the kids have to

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<v Speaker 2>change the numbers on their guernseys because they see their

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<v Speaker 2>hero suddenly wearing different colors. Elon Musk is no longer

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<v Speaker 2>loyal to his buddy Donald Trump, though perhaps you can

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<v Speaker 2>see why. In the supermarket brand loyalty seems to have

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<v Speaker 2>been eroded. Price and quality more important now again, fair enough,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's a trend, the shop around strategies building. That's

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<v Speaker 2>a positive, but e roading loyalty in all areas of

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<v Speaker 2>society erodes. Trust. Without trust, we undermine the way we live.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, think about it, the only place loyalty really

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<v Speaker 2>survives is amongst supporters of particular sporting clubs. They will

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<v Speaker 2>follow teams for sixty years which have never had a premiership,

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<v Speaker 2>never had the ultimate success. I know I did it.

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<v Speaker 2>I still do. Am I stupid or loyal? I was

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<v Speaker 2>hoping this work. I could report that our Prime minister

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<v Speaker 2>was awake, he was over his election hangover. But he isn't.

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<v Speaker 2>He's still asleep, apparently willing to commit to nothing. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>if he's not asleep, his head is so far in

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<v Speaker 2>the sand you can only see the souls of his

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<v Speaker 2>feet sticking out. Have a look at this list of

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<v Speaker 2>things that he seems to be trying to ignore. China,

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<v Speaker 2>defend spending, the Middle East, social cohesion in Australia which

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<v Speaker 2>is crumbling, the energy dilemma, balancing renewables with cheap available power, mining,

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<v Speaker 2>cost of living. Now, I thought he dodged all these

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<v Speaker 2>in the election is just too risky, But here it is,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's there for at least six years and he's

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<v Speaker 2>still dodging. It's a pity. He could be a reforming

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<v Speaker 2>prime minister. He doesn't have to worry about the politics

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<v Speaker 2>anymore for a long time. He could be one of

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<v Speaker 2>the great prime ministers. But he'd better get back to work,

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<v Speaker 2>and get back to work soon. Have a listen to this.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's one heir being ignored. This is the British Prime Minister,

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<v Speaker 2>Sir Keith Starmer. He is putting the country on a

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<v Speaker 2>war footing, his words, a war footing. He is developing

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<v Speaker 2>Britain's defense capability and doing it very quickly. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>he said in a speech. It's scary stuff, although he

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<v Speaker 2>was talking about Europe, not the Pacific necessarily. If he

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<v Speaker 2>is right, this would throw the world into turmoil and

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<v Speaker 2>touch us. The British Prime Minister. Here he is.

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<v Speaker 3>We are moving to war fighting readiness as the central

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<v Speaker 3>purpose of our armed forces. When we are being directly

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<v Speaker 3>threatened by states with advanced military forces, the most effective

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<v Speaker 3>way to deter them is to be ready and frankly,

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<v Speaker 3>to show them that we're ready to deliver peace through strength.

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<v Speaker 3>I can announce today they're going to build at least

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<v Speaker 3>six new munitions factories in the United Kingdom, generating over

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<v Speaker 3>a thousand jobs. We will build thousands of new long

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<v Speaker 3>range weapons in the United Kingdom to boost European deterrence,

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<v Speaker 3>supporting around eight hundred more jobs. We will defend our

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<v Speaker 3>homeland by investing in our air and missile defense to

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<v Speaker 3>better protect these islands. We will create a hybrid Royal Navy,

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<v Speaker 3>blending drones with worships, submarines and aircraft to patrol the

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<v Speaker 3>North Atlantic and beyond.

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<v Speaker 2>As I said, scary stuff, but he sounds like a leader,

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<v Speaker 2>a leader who is rightly worried about the world. And

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<v Speaker 2>what does our PM do? He didthers when he was

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<v Speaker 2>warned by the Australian Strategic Policy Institute that we are

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<v Speaker 2>not ready for war or the talk of war on

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<v Speaker 2>we should be, he attacked the messengers. Australia's defense spending

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<v Speaker 2>is approaching two percent of GDP, Britain's heading to three percent.

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<v Speaker 2>We're aiming at two point three percent by twenty thirty three.

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<v Speaker 2>The United States saying hang on, hang on, you need

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more than that. More like mister Alberanizi has

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<v Speaker 2>waffled on this. He says, the goal is to give

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<v Speaker 2>Australia the capability it needs, whatever that means, and we

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<v Speaker 2>know what it needs. But he stopped short of that

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<v Speaker 2>three percent target. There's no question and they keep saying it.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's no question the world is in dangerous times.

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<v Speaker 2>China is rumbling, Trump is unpredictable, the Middle East threatens

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<v Speaker 2>to spread. Russia is increasingly dangerous. Even the Prime Minister,

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<v Speaker 2>mister Albanzi admits these are tough times with any waffles

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<v Speaker 2>when he's asked what he's going to do about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Australia was unprepared for war back in nineteen forty one

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<v Speaker 2>the Second World War. We escaped all that by the

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<v Speaker 2>skin of our teeth. Times have changed. We won't have

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<v Speaker 2>time to build up the military. One's tensions do erupt

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<v Speaker 2>Look the simple view, the very simple way to put it,

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<v Speaker 2>Australia is unprepared to defend itself or add much to

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<v Speaker 2>its defense. Point one point two. The relationship with the

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<v Speaker 2>United States is unpredictable. Some say we cannot rely on

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<v Speaker 2>them for military help if needed. Zero point three. China

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<v Speaker 2>is becoming more belligerent by the day. The region is tense.

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<v Speaker 2>We are not ready and what makes it worse, our

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<v Speaker 2>leaders are not even talking about it. Part of the

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<v Speaker 2>underlying problem for Australian What I'm talking about is we

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<v Speaker 2>don't understand China, or if we do. We have no

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<v Speaker 2>idea how to handle the country. This isn't I'm talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the Chinese people here, I'm talking about the Chinese

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<v Speaker 2>Communist Party. You put this together. China has no concern

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<v Speaker 2>for basic human rights. China executes more people secretly than

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<v Speaker 2>any other country in the world. China has little respect

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<v Speaker 2>for human life. China makes no secret of the intention

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<v Speaker 2>to regain Taiwan, even if that requires invasion. China is

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<v Speaker 2>an international bully member. The ship's circumnavigating Australia. China has

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<v Speaker 2>a massive military force and huge industrial machine behind it.

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<v Speaker 2>China cannot be trusted. We've seen that, and I repeat,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't understand the country. Here's a little bit of proof.

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<v Speaker 2>This is from a Chinese born Australian, Chang Lai. I

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<v Speaker 2>interviewed her on my podcast this week. Neil Mitchell asks

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<v Speaker 2>why that's available posted now. It's fascinating stuff. She is

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<v Speaker 2>an Australian citizen, but was still arrested in China and

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<v Speaker 2>locked up, tortured as well, locked up for more than

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<v Speaker 2>three years on trumped up spying charges. She was brutalized

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<v Speaker 2>physically and psychologically. She says it was so bad that

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<v Speaker 2>at one stage death looked more appealing. She believed she

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<v Speaker 2>was seized to send a message to the Australian government

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<v Speaker 2>from China saying, look, we can do this sort of thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and we will, because you've been asking diffy or questions

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<v Speaker 2>about where the COVID virus began, was it Wuhan, was

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<v Speaker 2>it in a lab? What happened, which, of course were

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<v Speaker 2>reasonable questions for world safety. The Chinese didn't like them,

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<v Speaker 2>so it was a tactical piece of intimidation to arrest

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<v Speaker 2>Chang Lay And she says, this is what she says

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<v Speaker 2>about China and the dangers it presents and what we

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<v Speaker 2>can do about it. And where are we now in

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<v Speaker 2>the relationship between the two countries.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're probably at a turning point. We're a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more alert aware, and I just hope we turn

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<v Speaker 1>that into action, into more understanding.

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<v Speaker 2>See what is the ultimate danger to Australia from China?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's not invasion. It might be economic control.

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<v Speaker 2>What is the ultimate danger to Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't think the economic control is dangerous enough. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if we can't be ourselves, we may as well be

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<v Speaker 1>living in China. I mean, where do we draw the line,

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<v Speaker 1>if we can't tell them off in Canberra, in Parliament,

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<v Speaker 1>in our own Parliament house.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a think about it that this is a person

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<v Speaker 2>who understands the culture. She grew up in Australia but

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<v Speaker 2>lived in China for more than a decade. She knows

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<v Speaker 2>the system, she knows the people she suffered at the

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<v Speaker 2>hands of people who consider human rights irrelevant. We need

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<v Speaker 2>to listen to Changli and others like her. Look, we

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<v Speaker 2>need trade with China, we need their money, but one

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<v Speaker 2>day we're going to have to make a choice that

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<v Speaker 2>may stop flowing anyway. We do not need what she

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<v Speaker 2>describes as the invisible prison of economic coercion. Meanwhile, the

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<v Speaker 2>mistake some seem to make is to believe this country

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<v Speaker 2>China is our friend. It is not, and it never

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<v Speaker 2>will be. Of course, China state control media pumps out propaganda.

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<v Speaker 2>They're spis that operate in this country, step up their

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<v Speaker 2>underhand work, and they bully and intimidate. Well, at least

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<v Speaker 2>they can't ban me because they already have. They won't

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<v Speaker 2>like what I'm saying here, and they'll be well aware

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<v Speaker 2>of it. They can't ban me, they already have some

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<v Speaker 2>years ago. I play to travel to Shanghai to broadcast

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<v Speaker 2>about the emergence of the city there. I knew a

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<v Speaker 2>number of people who lived there and worked there, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's sort of half west half east, fascinating place. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't get there for months. Chinese officials told me

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<v Speaker 2>my visa was on the way. It never appeared. They

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<v Speaker 2>never actually said no, wrote it, never refused it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the way they work. They just ignore it. And I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't allowed in because I was a critic and the

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<v Speaker 2>one time I have been to China before they got

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<v Speaker 2>on to me. It wasn't long before the Olympic Games.

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<v Speaker 2>I was threatened. I was in Beijing and I'd arranged

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<v Speaker 2>to broadcast from Tineman Square to the whole program from there.

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<v Speaker 2>We had approval and permits and letters and everything saying

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<v Speaker 2>it was all okay. Well, the night before we were

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<v Speaker 2>due to broadcasts there that aside, it wasn't okay. We

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<v Speaker 2>were told permission had been revoked. Why no explanation? When

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<v Speaker 2>no explanation? Who no explanation? I said, well, okay, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>get my producer to Justin Smith, to go down call

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<v Speaker 2>In on his mobile live from Tieneman Square. The message

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<v Speaker 2>came back Oh, yes, you can do that, but he

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<v Speaker 2>will be arrested. So discretion was the better part of valor.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't go. But that's how they view something we

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<v Speaker 2>see as sacred to democracy, with all its faults. A

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<v Speaker 2>free media is part of our lives and part of

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<v Speaker 2>our freedom. In China, it simply does not exist. Oh actually,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's another one. To top off the reasons not

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<v Speaker 2>to trust China. The United States has established its reported

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<v Speaker 2>this week the Chinese cranes on their waterfront have been

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<v Speaker 2>fitted with suspicious communications devices which are remotely accessed. They're

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<v Speaker 2>calling him spy cranes. An eighty percent of the cranes

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<v Speaker 2>on the docks in the US A Chinese made a

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<v Speaker 2>massive electronic spy network. Well, in Australia we've already restricted

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<v Speaker 2>Huawei phones. TikTok is is on the edge, TikTok is dodgy.

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<v Speaker 2>What about the Chinese cars? Who knows? We're getting millions

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<v Speaker 2>of them on the roads around the world, and a

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<v Speaker 2>lot in Australia, many many brands of Chinese cars. They

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<v Speaker 2>all got a little secret communications devising them. I doubt

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<v Speaker 2>it very much. I doubt that very much. But the

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<v Speaker 2>point is with China do not trust them. Do not

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<v Speaker 2>trust them A couple of quick little items. Here's an idea,

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<v Speaker 2>and i'd luck your views on this. If you're a dad,

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<v Speaker 2>or you contenue to be a dad, or if you're

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<v Speaker 2>a mum for that, if you're a parent. Neil dot

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<v Speaker 2>Mitchell at nine dot com dot I reckon we need

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<v Speaker 2>to establish a system of dad lessons. Now it's not

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<v Speaker 2>lessons on how to tell bad jokes or embarrass the kids,

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<v Speaker 2>genuine lessons on being a father on parenting. This goes

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<v Speaker 2>to the heart of pretty serious issues domestic violence. For one,

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<v Speaker 2>one third of men admit they've used a form of

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<v Speaker 2>intimate partner violence. That's just a horrifying figure. But the

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<v Speaker 2>similar research has shown that having an affectionate and a

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<v Speaker 2>well understanding father was a strong preventative factor. Now it's

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<v Speaker 2>a complex area, but to simplify it, both parents are crucial.

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<v Speaker 2>Women tend to have better parenting instincts than men. Men

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<v Speaker 2>generally want to do the right thing, some don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how to. They've grown up with a remote father, often

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<v Speaker 2>working too hard to help with the kids and their

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<v Speaker 2>attitudes to life. I think parenting classes would be invaluable.

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<v Speaker 2>Some will already exist specifically for men, but not enough

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<v Speaker 2>expand them. Start from the very basics. You can't control

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<v Speaker 2>the right to procreate. You can't stop people having babies

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<v Speaker 2>are going to be bad parents, but you can help

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<v Speaker 2>people cope with the massive responsibilities of kids once they've

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<v Speaker 2>got them. So, Dad, classes, what do you think? Neil

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<v Speaker 2>dot Mitchell at nine dot com dot au. More evidence

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<v Speaker 2>this week onto something else that horrendous anti Semitisms building

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<v Speaker 2>around the world. In the United States, they've recovered just

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<v Speaker 2>recovering from the murder of a young Jewish couple at

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<v Speaker 2>a social event, and as that's happening, we have a

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<v Speaker 2>lunatic with a homemade flame thrower attacking Jews for just

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<v Speaker 2>being Jews. And here in Australia, the undercurrent of anti

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<v Speaker 2>semitives and builds. The universities are turning themselves inside out

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<v Speaker 2>about whether they should actually be fair to the Jewish

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<v Speaker 2>people or not. I don't believe there's even discussing that.

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<v Speaker 2>And this one of Melbourne's main good health festivals that's

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<v Speaker 2>called the Mind Body Spirit Festival. Mind Body Spirit Festival.

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<v Speaker 2>A practitioner, a counselor who has been to that festival

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<v Speaker 2>featured at that festival for about ten years, has been

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<v Speaker 2>banned at the last minute because she's Jewish. Sharon Tale

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<v Speaker 2>is her name. A qualified kinesiologist, she runs stress management

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<v Speaker 2>workshops and all sorts of things, but banned because people

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<v Speaker 2>objected to her presence because she was Jewish. And that

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<v Speaker 2>after a pro Palestine smear campaign, a campaign by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>it accused her of taking part in genocide, a totally

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<v Speaker 2>offensive and nonsensical thing to say. A Melbourne professional, probably

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of a hippie by a sound of accused

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<v Speaker 2>of fostering genocide by mostly anonymous Zealots, and she gets

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<v Speaker 2>thrown out of a legitimate festival she's worked out for

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<v Speaker 2>ten years. That really is proof of the dangerous wave

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<v Speaker 2>of anti Semitism. And it is obscene. So where are

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<v Speaker 2>our leaders? And speaking of obscene, the US sounding more

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<v Speaker 2>like a rogue state under Donald Trump. This under Trump's

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<v Speaker 2>changes on transgender people and gender changing surgery, the FBI

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<v Speaker 2>is put out an appeal set up a hotline for

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<v Speaker 2>people to dab in hospitals and doctors. It says this quote,

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<v Speaker 2>we will protect our children and hold accountable those who

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<v Speaker 2>utilate them under the guise of offering gender affirming care.

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<v Speaker 2>Still quoting from the FBI report tips of any hospitals, clinics,

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<v Speaker 2>or practitioners performing these surgical procedures on children, and it

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<v Speaker 2>gives a hotline number. Now, Look, I agree to the

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<v Speaker 2>extent that gender surgery on young children can just be wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Too early, it's wrong. Treating children with gender issues is

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<v Speaker 2>not wrong. Surgery, though, is irreversible and dangerous, but encouraging

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<v Speaker 2>people to dob in doctors is ridiculous. If this is

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<v Speaker 2>a big enough problem, they should require several levels of

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<v Speaker 2>second opinions and second guessing before it's done. Set it

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<v Speaker 2>up as part of the health bureaucracy. Look, it's an

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<v Speaker 2>awfully complex and sad part of the human condition, but

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<v Speaker 2>the FBI should not be in the middle of it.

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<v Speaker 2>They should use their time tracking terrorists and lunatics who

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<v Speaker 2>think it's okay to shoot a dozen children sitting in

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<v Speaker 2>a classroom. That's it. Neil dot Mitchella nine dot com

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<v Speaker 2>dot au too quick remind us mushrooms are very much

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<v Speaker 2>on the agenda at the moment because of the trial

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<v Speaker 2>of the woman accused of killing three relatives with poisonous mushrooms.

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<v Speaker 2>On my podcast, listen, Neil Mitchell asks why there's an

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<v Speaker 2>interview from some months ago with a mushroom expert. Now

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<v Speaker 2>we're not talking about the court case directly, we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about fungi and how it can change the world. So

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<v Speaker 2>if you're thinking mushrooms, and many are, it's fascinating. And

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<v Speaker 2>on the podcast this week, as I mentioned Chang Lei,

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<v Speaker 2>the Australian citizen brutalized in a Chinese jail for three years.

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<v Speaker 2>She is one of the most cheery, resilient people you'll

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<v Speaker 2>ever hear, really after what she's been through at various times,

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<v Speaker 2>not just in China. Cheery and resilient. Neil Mitchell asks

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<v Speaker 2>why available now next week as well? On the podcast

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<v Speaker 2>if you've been scammed, if you're worried about being scammed,

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<v Speaker 2>don't miss this. Scams are costing the average of Australians

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<v Speaker 2>tens of millions of dollars a year. Here is something

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<v Speaker 2>you can do about it that'll be posted next Tuesday

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<v Speaker 2>six a m. Neil Mitchell asks why