WEBVTT - Afternoons with Michael McLaren - Friday, 6th June 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:07.360 On two GB at network stations. This is afternoons with 0:00:07.440 --> 0:00:08.360 Michael McLaren. 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:11.040 All right, let's get into it Friday. Thank you for 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:12.840 your company. We are at the end of a working 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:15.800 week and a lot of people probably not working today 0:00:15.840 --> 0:00:19.479 because they'll be taking advantage of a potential extra long 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:22.640 weekend with Monday being the King's Birthday public holiday. All right, 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:24.520 one three, one eight seven three the number If you 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:26.599 want to join us. You can send us a text 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:29.200 if you like, zero four six zero eight seven three 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:31.479 eight seven three, and there is always email. Thank you 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:33.960 to those that always do right that way t GB 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:36.600 dot com. Click on the feedback icon. In just a moment, 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:39.000 I'll try to get my head around this whole Elon 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:43.120 muskveed Donald Trump spat. It is spiraling very very quickly 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:46.280 out of control. There will only be one winner in 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:48.720 the short term, and that'll be the president. Money can 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:51.680 buy you so much, but raw power, and that's what's 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:53.960 inherent in the title of the President of the United 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:57.200 States is a power that money really can't buy. So 0:00:57.560 --> 0:01:00.800 Trump will win this, but he will be damaged along 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:02.960 the way. But there are bigger questions that need to 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:05.039 be answered and asked and will never to do that 0:01:05.360 --> 0:01:08.559 in our conversation at a moment Adam Crichton later this hour. 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:11.640 I always enjoy speaking with Adam very bright Man. He's 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:14.320 now the senior Fellow and chief Economist at the Institute 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:17.360 of Public Affairs. Mind you, he was The Australian's Washington 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:19.880 correspondent for a while, so I might ask him his 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:21.720 take on the whole Trump Musk thing as well. But 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:24.280 I obstensively want to get him on today to talk 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:27.080 about immigration policy. He had a very good piece in 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:29.800 one of the newspapers, it may have been The Australian Today, 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:33.600 on immigration and he makes the point that the policy 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:41.440 is not serving Australia. Now, this is a very important 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:44.800 point that he is making, because we keep being told 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:49.080 by all of those in a position of power that 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:53.920 the immigration policy is built off skilled migration and that 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:56.760 without it the Australian economy would be poorer and all 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:58.760 the rest of it. Now, there's no doubt if you 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:02.840 stopped immigration tomory morrow, there would be a cataclysmic impact 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:05.400 on the economy, no doubt about it. So you can't 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:08.000 do that. But the numbers we're being bringing in are 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:12.720 unsustainable and there's no doubt that certain sectors of the 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:16.320 economy are getting a wonderful net benefit, but perhaps that 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:20.160 is not flowing through to the economy overall. So you know, 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:23.519 the education sect, for example, doing very very well out 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:27.280 of short term residency visas, student visas and the like. 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:29.480 Now a lot of these people are coming here not 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:32.440 so much to study. They're using study is the trojan horse, 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:35.919 the catalyst to end up getting permanent residents in citizenship. 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:39.880 That's their goal. Now, I guess that's a ringing endorsement 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:42.960 of modern Australia. People are willing to go through all 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:44.920 sorts of leaps and hoops and pay a lot of 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:49.079 money to become ultimately an Australian citizen like you Uri. 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:51.680 That reflects very well on us and it blows out 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:53.160 of the water of this argument from some of the 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:55.240 idiots out there that we're just a sort of a 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:57.720 backwater in the South Pacific full of a bunch of white, 0:02:57.760 --> 0:03:01.239 red neck racists. I would have wanted to join that club. 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:05.359 So there goes that argument right there. But we do, 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:10.040 I think, have a responsibility to ask whether the system 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:14.200 overall is serving the nation's best interest. Adam's come to 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:16.720 the conclusion that it is not, and I was talking 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:18.679 about that later. There's our I know many of you 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:21.040 have reached that same conclusion. I've seen your text messages. 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:23.840 After one o'clock, in a slight change of pace, we 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:28.400 have the OZ Feline Fair coming to Sydney this weekend. 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:30.600 A lot of cats and a lot of cat owners 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:32.280 and a lot of people that love cats and all 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:35.000 the rest of it descending on the ICC. I think 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:37.480 it is down here at Darling Harbor. I'll be joined 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:40.240 by an American who's one of the world's leading and 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:43.840 most renowned judges in the world of cats, Steven Reserve. 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:46.360 He's here to be part of the judging panel, and 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:49.080 he and his team are behind these fairs and they've 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:51.240 done i think seventy around the world in the last 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:55.240 three years. Big business, putty tats, big business. There's a 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:58.920 lot of them. Not on Kangaroo Island anymore. That's a 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:02.080 different story now. Alice will be here for the Domain 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:05.160 Real Estate Show later on and after two o'clock for 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:07.720 Friday Food. The focus is on bread. I was just 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:10.240 speaking there with Mark Levy. I mean I sort of 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:14.360 rate myself as a reasonable baker. I can handle myself 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:16.120 when it comes to adding the flour and the sugar 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:18.479 and the eggs and whatnot. But when it comes to 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:23.200 making bread, hopeless. And I've tried a few times. Even 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:25.560 one point, we bought the bread maker, the one that 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:30.359 Aldi was selling, and followed the instructions and did this 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:32.880 and did that, and put the currants in to make 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:35.160 the fruit loaf at the right time through the little hatch, 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:39.000 and I said, the end product resembled something to come 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:41.120 off the production light of brickworks more than it would 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:46.359 a baker's delight. Tried it again, not much better. Okay, anyway, 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:48.240 So someone else's got the bread machine, Now, good luck 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:49.960 to them. I hope they're having more success than I am. 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:54.040 But any of you there must be out there, budding bakers, 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:57.560 the home bakers. There's nothing better than the smell of 0:04:57.600 --> 0:05:01.960 freshly baked bread in a house, particularly in these colder days. 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:03.839 If there's someone that knows how to make a good 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:06.640 sour dough or a high top loaf or whatever it is, 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:09.680 and they stick the dough in the oven after it's 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:11.680 proved and risen and done all of this, and then 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:16.039 it bakes, the smell is intoxicating, and actually, speaking of 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:17.640 real estate. I think that's one of the old tricks, 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:19.280 isn't it. You get a whole bowl of green apples 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:21.560 and you stick it on the kitchen bench because that 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:25.080 looks nice or something, and you stick a raw loaf 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:26.960 of bread in the oven and let it bake, and 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:31.599 just let that smell infuse the house and the people 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:33.960 coming to the open for inspection or the auction. So 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:37.760 I like that smell. Whether they're then going to put 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:40.440 their hand in their pocket a little more deeply, I 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:43.000 don't know, but it can't hurt anyway. If you've got 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:45.000 a couple of tricks to making homemade bread, I'd love 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:46.880 to hear from you, But we'll speak to Barry Jones. 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:49.360 He's the co founder of Missus Jones, the Baker. They 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:51.960 certainly know what they're doing after two o'clock for Friday food. 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:54.320 Of course, any breaking us, any situation on the roads 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:56.080 will bring it your way as well. And you're our 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:57.960 eyes and ears, so you keep us up to date 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:00.359 with what's happening out there in the big city. We 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:03.520 call Sydney one three one eight seven three is the number. 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:12.640 It is, sixteen past twelve. Well, look open any news 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:15.440 site today and the top story will be without exception, 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:18.720 the war of words that's broken out between Elon Musk 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:21.320 and Donald Trump, and many have been quick to say 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:24.159 it was always going to come to this, But now 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:28.520 that it's actually happening, boy, it threatens to get very messy, 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:33.400 very fast. Now. Musk on X, Trump on truth Social 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:35.440 both have been duking it out in a flurry of 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:38.160 messages and it's escalating like a damn wall with a 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:40.480 crack about to completely give way and obviously flood everything 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:44.320 around it that's already flooding the headlines. Musk claims that 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:48.159 Trump is named in the Epstein files he wants him impeached. 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:52.240 Trump counterclaims that Musk is just dirty on him because 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:55.119 he's about to remove the electric vehicle mandate which helped 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:58.599 make Tesla rich. Now Steve Bannon's even back, He's back 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:02.159 on the scene calling for Musk to deported. Meanwhile, Tesla's 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:04.680 share price has taken another walloping, I think, dropping something 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:07.719 like sixteen percent on Wall Street overnight, and now Musk 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:11.960 is threatening to decommission his SpaceX drag and spacecraft. They're 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:14.760 the ones that ferry the cargo to the International Space 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:18.880 Station for the US. Trump, meanwhile, as counter threatening to 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:23.720 revoke all of Musk's government contracts. So how did it 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:26.640 come to this? How did the President and his so 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:31.440 called first buddy, the genius Ceylon, go from margar bosom 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:35.080 buddies to enemies. Well, I'm sure in reality there's a 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:38.040 rather complicated truth behind it all, but on face value, 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:41.280 it seems the answer lies in just four words, the 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:46.160 Big Beautiful Bill. Now. Three days ago, Musk took to 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:49.440 social media to publicly distance himself from Trump's signature economic 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:52.600 and tax policy. The Big Beautiful Bill, he said, would 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:56.640 be a massive, outrageous, pork filled spendethon that he concluded 0:07:56.680 --> 0:08:01.680 would be a quote unquote, disgusting abomination. The following day, 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:04.160 no doubt, buoyed by the enthusiasm with which the media 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:06.560 reported the first signs of the Musk Trump fallout, he 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:09.880 doubled down, writing, quote, America is in the fast lane 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:13.920 to debt slavery. Call your senator, call your congressman. Bankrupting 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:18.640 America is not okay. Now. By June five, Trump obviously 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:20.960 had to respond, but he did so in a manner 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:23.880 that was actually far removed from his usual bombastic style. 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:26.800 He simply said, and he's in the Oval Office. I'm 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:29.880 very disappointed because Elon knew the inner workings of the bill. 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:32.480 He knew it better than almost anybody sitting here. He 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:34.760 knew everything about it. He had no problem with it, 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:37.440 But all of a sudden he had a problem. Well 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:39.760 later that day, in fact, twelve twenty five p m. 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:43.880 To be precise, Musk responded, denying the bill was ever 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:47.080 shown to him, and then, obviously brewing in anger, pivoted 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:49.480 the attacks to the personal stuff that we've seen ever since, 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:52.520 claiming Trump would never have won the election without him, 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:54.840 and the tit for tat between the two most powerful 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:57.480 men in the world went back and forth until Musk, 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:00.960 in his words, decided it was time to drop the 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:06.200 really big bomb two forty nine pm US East Coast time, 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:10.800 writing quote, Donald Trump is in the Epstein files. That 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:13.360 is the real reason they have not been made public. 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:19.200 Have a nice day, d JT. Donald J. Trump. Well, 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:22.360 what comes next is anyone's guess. But suffice to say, 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:25.000 at a time where the global geopolitical situation is as 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:28.199 precarious as it is, the only winners from a situation 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:31.600 where the American president is consumed by the incoming missiles 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:35.520 of his former confidant set in the presidential palaces of China, 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:39.200 Russia and Iran. Looking at the stock market, it's pretty 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:41.839 clear who the big traders reckon will prevail in the 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:44.720 White House arm wrestle between Trump and Musk. But whether 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:47.600 Trump can then go on to win the bigger battles, 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:52.040 the ones on the world stage, having already been wounded 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:55.080 by what's already been zed, let alone what's to come 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:58.440 from a clearly disgruntled Musk, Well, that remains uncertain. It'll 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:00.600 also be fascinating to see if the liber will elite 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:04.160 start to once again embrace Muskers of visionary rather than 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:07.240 the devil now that he's busy kicking Trump in the shins? 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:10.320 Will they start buying his cars again? Will they start 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:14.160 approving his battery factories in the outskirts of say Adelaide again? 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:17.120 Will they now stop burning Tesla dealerships to the ground 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:19.680 and end their wave of domestic terrorism against his assets? 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:23.560 Watch this space. And of course, while all of this 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:27.679 is going on, actual important stuff is happening in the 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:31.040 White House that, if handled deftly, will benefit the entire 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:34.720 Western hemisphere. For example, Trump and g of China held 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:36.920 a long phone call just yesterday around the issue of 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:39.520 tariffs as well as the war in Ukraine. But of 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:41.600 course that sort of stuff won't register in the world's 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:44.640 media as everyone allow themselves to get swept up in 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:47.079 the soap opera between the world's richest man and the 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:51.160 world's most powerful man. But as this modern day tragedy 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:54.760 goes through its inevitable acts and verses, hopefully a few 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:58.479 in the media will take the time to remove themselves 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:02.160 from the personalities, the yearg and the scandal and instead 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:05.880 examine the story behind the official catalyst for all of it, 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:11.679 namely this big, beautiful bill, because that's the real story here, 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:14.400 and it transcends Musk, and it transcends Trump. For what 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:16.960 it's worth, I think Musk is actually right to question 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:20.719 the wisdom of this legislation as it currently stands now. 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:23.280 The way he's going about it is insane, But as 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:26.960 the Parliamentary Budget Office in America estimates, it will add 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:32.000 something like two point three trillion US dollars to America's 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:35.720 deficits over the next decade. Now Trump's team, they say 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:39.840 the tariffs will offset that by raising a similar amount 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:42.839 for the treasury, but of course that's far from guaranteed. Now. 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:46.200 Trump set up DOGE with Musk as its head for 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:51.240 a reason. He knew America's fiscal position was unsustainable. As 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:54.200 we've said many times before, America's federal debt as are 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:58.640 staggering thirty three trillion US dollars and rising. They're running 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:01.120 annual deficits close to six percent of GDP. I mean, 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:05.160 it's estimated the work of DOGE clawed back something like 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:08.880 one hundred and seventy five billion, but with interest repayments 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:12.040 now greater than the defense budget, clearly much more has 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:15.680 to happen. And there is a genuine fear among economic 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:19.920 conservatives that the Trump plan will fail to stimulate enough 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:23.760 additional growth to justify its cost to the bottom line. 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:28.280 And the fundamentals of that debate are actually playing out 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:31.560 right across the world, with national and even here state 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:35.760 governments now struggling to balance the books whilst undergrowing pressure 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:38.560 from voters to cut taxes at the same time funding 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:42.600 every welfare and infrastructure project under the sun. Put simply, 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:46.520 you can only stretch the elastic band so far before 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:49.400 it eventually snaps. I've just been reminded by the way 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:51.679 we have We've got to do guess the grunt at 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:54.160 some point today, because we've got that family pass to 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:57.520 give away to Tarrongazoo. Yesterday, of course, Tarongo had their 0:12:57.559 --> 0:13:00.760 Giving Day and that went very very well, raising money 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:03.640 for brand new Toronngo Wildlife Hospital. It's going to do 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:05.880 wonderful work. Of course, you can donate to Torontgo Indy 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:08.360 Day if you like, Just go to give dot Tarongo, 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:11.480 dot org, dot au. Now a lot of text messages 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:14.280 coming through it one three one eight seven three for 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:16.480 the open line zero four six zero eight seven three 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:21.439 eight seven three. Edwards says, the US dead is thirty 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:23.320 six point nine to four trillion. Well, that's not what 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:26.960 i've seen. I've seen it at thirty What did I say? 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:30.920 Thirty three? But I suppose if you add this year's 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:33.040 budget deficit, it will get to about thirty six. So 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:34.720 I mean, give will take a couple of trillion. But 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:37.680 what's that between friends when you're already that far gone. 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:41.960 Steve makes the valid point that the two trillion regarding 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:46.840 the tariffs will largely come from American consumers because they 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:52.440 will be paying more for a product that otherwise would 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:55.480 have been cheaper without the tariffs. Now that's one way 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:58.680 you can raise revenue, but that doesn't necessarily go to 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:02.400 the TE treasury. That might just go to the company, 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:05.599 but the company then has to send that to the 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:08.560 US Treasury, so the company effectively becomes a middleman. But 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:11.600 Steven's quite right. The money will largely come out of 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:14.240 the pocket of American consumers, which in essence is a 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:18.800 tax hike on the consumer. So all of this talk 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:21.000 about oh, well, we'll just do the big beautiful bill 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:23.280 over here, and yeah, there's going to be an additional 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:27.720 two points something trillion to the budget bottom line debt, 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:30.720 but will offset that by these tariffs which are going 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:34.240 to wallop the foreign countries. It doesn't always work. It 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:38.000 doesn't really work that way at all, And I suppose 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:41.240 this is what got Musks back up. But as I say, 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:44.040 there's ways and means about having a falling out with 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:47.720 someone that you've respected or worked with. Taking it online 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:50.920 is never the way to do it. But to do 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:53.920 it in this fashion and then to raise Epstein and 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:58.960 all that's just crazy. That is really stupid of Musk Because, 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:01.760 as we discussed a while ago, when there was talk 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:04.160 about the JFK files had been released, and I think 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:06.840 the Martin Luther King junior file would be released. Others 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:08.760 were saying, well, look, while you're out at Pambondi and 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:11.800 Donald Trump, release the Epstein file. And the White House 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:14.360 made the valid point that you can't just dump the 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:19.440 Epstein file out there, because one it's particularly contemporaneous. The others, 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:21.480 most of the people named will be dead, whether they 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:24.640 are innocent or involved in anything. The Epstein file will 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:27.320 have all sorts of names mentioned. Trump's name most probably 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:30.720 is in there because he had an association with Epstein 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:33.560 here or there. So you know, a lot of people's 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:36.480 name will be mentioned. That's not to say they were 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:41.280 doing anything wrong, illegal criminal or ne Fario's but they 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:43.440 may have been a business associate of Epstein. They may 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:45.520 have had a financial arrangement with Epstein. They may have 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:47.200 been to his house for dinner once or twice, but 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:50.080 nothing else. So to just sort of, you know, dump 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:55.240 it all out there declassified, would be to besmirch the 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:59.040 reputations and names of a lot of innocent people, whilst 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:01.880 at the same time, yeah, highlighting who may allegedly have 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:04.320 been involved in horrible things. But you can't do that. 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:08.000 You just can't do it that way. And so this 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:11.920 suggestion of Musk sort of wink wink, nudge nudge, is 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:17.560 really a really silly thing to do. But I mean, 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:21.000 as I said, whilst the world fixates on this, the 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:23.280 other actually really big issues that do affect all of 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:25.840 us still need to be attended to. And the White 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:30.040 House has been through their proxies very heavily negotiating with 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:34.640 Iran to try to do something about Iran's uranium enrichment program. 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:36.680 Now that would be in everyone's interest if they can 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:40.080 get that sorted. Now, they've been speaking with G of 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:42.440 China in the last twenty four hours around tariffs and 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:47.640 Russia and other big issues. We need that relationship stabilized. 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:50.320 But of course you're not going to hear much about 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:52.080 that in the next twenty four to forty eight hours 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:55.880 at the very earliest. It'll all be about the bromance 0:16:56.480 --> 0:17:01.000 that's over and the increasing incendry bombs lobbed well, not 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:04.640 so much from both sides, particularly from Musk at this stage, 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:07.159 and he's coming across rather unstable. I would have to 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:10.760 say one three, one eight seven three the open line number. Now, 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:12.800 while all of that goes on, the real world keeps 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:15.520 revolving there's a story that popped up in the News 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:18.880 Limited papers this morning about a cargo ship carrying about 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:21.760 three thousand cars. It's been abandoned in the Pacific Ocean 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:24.800 and left to burn. But these cars I believe are 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:29.879 electric vehicles. The Morning Midas that's the name of the vessel, 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:34.280 says he was carrying around eight hundred electric vehicles from China. 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:37.399 They are en route to Mexico when it caught fire 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:41.040 about four hundred and fifty kilometers south of Alaska now. 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:44.240 The US Coast Guard Alaska Division was called to the 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:46.760 scene of the unfolding disaster by a distress call at 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:51.600 about three point fifteen pm Tuesday local time, and first 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:55.200 witnessed smoke coming from the deck of the vessel, where 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:58.480 the evs was said to be stowed. I don't know 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:00.320 how they're going to put this out. The crew of 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:02.760 the Morning Midas were unable to get the fire under control, 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:05.960 and in consultation with the Coastguard, decided to abandon ship. 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:08.520 All twenty two sailors have been taken away safely. But 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:11.480 the incident is underlined, as it says here the safety 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:15.840 issues with transporting electric vehicles whose lithium ion batteries can 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:19.440 catch fire and are very hard to put out. Sometimes 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:21.960 these things can burn for up to two weeks. The 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:26.160 fiber gay know all about this now. A rear admiral 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:28.199 who was asked about all of this said, is the 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:31.920 search and rescue portion of our response concludes. Our crews 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:34.480 are working closely with the vessel's parent company, which is 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:38.800 Zodiac Maritime, to determine the disposition of the vessel. We're 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:41.480 grateful for the selfless actions of the three nearby vessels 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:43.199 who assisted in the response, and the crew of the 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:46.760 motor vessel Costco Hellas who helped save twenty two lives. 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:52.080 This is a forty six point eight forty six eight thousand, 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:55.560 I should say ton ship the morning Midas, and it 0:18:55.600 --> 0:19:00.440 flies under a Liberian flag built in China. According to 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:03.560 the Seattle Times, it left the Chinese port of yan 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:06.680 Thai on May the sixth, and it was en route 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:10.120 to Lazaro Cardenis in Mexico. It's not going to make 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:13.560 its final destination one three one eight seven three more 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:16.159 after this, Okay, it's twenty three minutes to one one 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:18.600 three one eight seven three. Thanks for all the text messages. 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:21.080 We'll get through those in due course, although I just 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:23.680 want to catch up with Adam Crichton because earlier this 0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:27.080 week the ABS released our latest GDP figures. We brought 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:29.440 those to you when they came through, and the numbers 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:33.520 were concerning we are back in a per capita recession. 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:36.560 In fact, GDP per capita has gone backwards for nine 0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:39.440 of the past eleven quarters. And as for productivity, that's 0:19:39.440 --> 0:19:42.800 no better. In the December and March quarters, productivity was flat. 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:46.000 In fact, in the year to March productivity down one percent. 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:48.600 So really as a nation, we're doing less and we're 0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:50.679 working less productively, and yet more and more people are 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:54.760 getting paid more go work that out. Nonetheless, it was 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:56.919 interesting to read a piece by Adam Crichton in The 0:19:56.920 --> 0:20:03.040 Australian today because unemployment it remains low. Immigration seems to 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:07.359 be what's propping up the national GDP figures, But you 0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:10.480 put it all together, it does seem individually we are 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:15.520 not necessarily benefiting in a net sense from this tidal 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:18.760 wave of humanity which has been allowed to come in 0:20:18.760 --> 0:20:21.240 in the last three or so years. But really it's 0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:22.720 on the back of the decade and a half of 0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:27.359 very big and strong immigration numbers. Now Adam Crichton in 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:31.520 the past was a big Australia guy, but he's I 0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:37.360 guess written today to an extent, Mayor Culp is not right, 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:42.119 but a qualified statement on this saying, look, maybe I 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:43.960 got this one a bit wrong, because now you look 0:20:44.000 --> 0:20:48.760 at the numbers and this isn't working in our interests, 0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:51.360 in the national interest or the individual interests. And that's 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:54.119 his conclusion, and I think many of you share that conclusion. 0:20:54.600 --> 0:20:56.560 Let's bring Adam in because it's always wonderful to be 0:20:56.600 --> 0:20:58.919 able to pick his brain. Of course, Adam these days 0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:01.280 is well. He used to be with the yours. He 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:03.200 used to be the Washington correspondent there, so I'll ask 0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:05.600 him about Trumpet muscut a second. But he's now the 0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:09.399 senior Fellow and chief economist at the IPA. Adam Crichton, Good. 0:21:09.280 --> 0:21:11.600 Afternoon, Good afternoon, Michael. 0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:14.760 Okay, so I think I'm right in saying what I said, Arda. 0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:20.320 You were a big Australia guy, but now the hypothesis 0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:23.640 has been allowed to run its course, you'll changing tech. 0:21:24.359 --> 0:21:25.959 Yes, Look, I mean if you go back, you know, 0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:29.800 to the nineteenth century, one of Australians thought that the 0:21:29.800 --> 0:21:31.840 population of Australia one day would be one hundred million, 0:21:31.880 --> 0:21:34.280 and you know, in fairness that you know, the continent 0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:37.560 probably could carry that many people. But just back to 0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:39.880 that debate, Yes, you know I was big Australia because 0:21:39.880 --> 0:21:42.080 I hope that the sort of immigrants that we'd be 0:21:42.080 --> 0:21:44.440 bringing in would integrate easily, would be skilled, would add 0:21:44.480 --> 0:21:48.080 value to the country. But clearly since twenty eighteen, you 0:21:48.119 --> 0:21:51.280 know when I argued that things have changed a lot, 0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:53.679 and the system is clearly out of control where we're 0:21:53.800 --> 0:21:55.520 you know, we're far from bringing in the people that 0:21:55.560 --> 0:21:57.000 we need. I mean a point I made in that 0:21:57.040 --> 0:21:59.600 column was this extraordinary fact that you know, we're meant 0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:03.160 to be having a home building boom in this country, 0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:05.560 but we're hardly bringing in any trades them to do 0:22:05.600 --> 0:22:08.159 the work. So there's I think there's two hundred and 0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:12.159 five thousand people in Australia foreigners in Australia on temporary 0:22:12.200 --> 0:22:15.040 skill visas, and only three percent of those have any 0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:18.280 skills in home building trades, which is just that's just crazy. 0:22:18.840 --> 0:22:21.680 I mean about four thousand out of two hundred and 0:22:21.760 --> 0:22:22.320 five thousand. 0:22:22.440 --> 0:22:25.840 Yes, yes, that's right, that's all so, and that's been 0:22:25.840 --> 0:22:28.240 at that ratio about three percent for the last decade. 0:22:28.280 --> 0:22:29.960 So we can't just blame the Labor Party. We have 0:22:30.000 --> 0:22:32.200 to blame both sides of politics. They're just not bringing 0:22:32.200 --> 0:22:35.520 in the sort of skills that we need to achieve 0:22:35.640 --> 0:22:38.440 these these homebuilding goals. And of course that's just one 0:22:38.440 --> 0:22:39.960 category of visa. I mean, we've got two and a 0:22:40.000 --> 0:22:43.080 half million people in Australia, so almost ten percent of 0:22:43.119 --> 0:22:45.960 the population here is on some sort of temporary visa. 0:22:46.480 --> 0:22:47.879 That's extraordinary to me. 0:22:48.359 --> 0:22:50.960 Well it is. Now. See whenever I speak, not when 0:22:50.960 --> 0:22:54.439 you speak to the business lobbies and the bigger end 0:22:54.480 --> 0:22:57.480 of town, and they make genuine cases about certain industrial 0:22:57.480 --> 0:23:00.199 relations policies, which so that's why we speak them. But 0:23:00.280 --> 0:23:02.040 I always raised this issue. I said, look, you know, 0:23:02.080 --> 0:23:04.199 you guys are always in favor of skilled migration. You 0:23:04.240 --> 0:23:07.359 assure us that we have skilled migration. We don't just 0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:09.680 let any old Tom Dick or Harry in. It's all 0:23:09.720 --> 0:23:13.160 about boosting the economy and meeting the needs of the economy. 0:23:13.280 --> 0:23:15.600 And yet I say, you look, look at the situation. 0:23:16.080 --> 0:23:19.879 The skilled shortages don't improve, yet the populations are mushrooming. 0:23:19.960 --> 0:23:22.119 So what's going on? And they can't explain it. 0:23:22.160 --> 0:23:25.119 To me, Well, look, I think it's largely self interest 0:23:25.119 --> 0:23:27.480 of big business. I mean, first, the first point is, 0:23:28.040 --> 0:23:30.680 you know, most big businesses always want a bigger population 0:23:30.800 --> 0:23:32.720 because they can just sell more stuff. I mean, it's 0:23:32.720 --> 0:23:35.359 as simple as that. You know, if you're a scale business, 0:23:35.440 --> 0:23:38.000 you want more customers. So I can understand that from 0:23:38.000 --> 0:23:40.560 the sexual view of the businesses. And then the other thing, 0:23:40.560 --> 0:23:42.480 of course is when they bring in all of these workers, 0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:45.720 it does put down with pressure on wages, There's no 0:23:45.840 --> 0:23:49.119 question about that. And I've always been very suspicious of 0:23:49.119 --> 0:23:52.600 the so called skilled shortage argument because you know, what 0:23:52.640 --> 0:23:54.640 does it really mean. I mean, if there's a shortage, 0:23:54.640 --> 0:23:56.800 you just pay a higher wage and you attract people 0:23:56.800 --> 0:23:59.800 into that job or that industry. But of course businesses 0:23:59.800 --> 0:24:02.280 don't like talking about that. They would rather have the 0:24:02.320 --> 0:24:04.480 wages low. And I understand that from their point of view. 0:24:04.480 --> 0:24:06.840 But from a national point of view, from the point 0:24:06.840 --> 0:24:09.800 of view of Australians who are born here, is that 0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:11.840 the best situation And I don't think it is. 0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:11.960 So. 0:24:13.359 --> 0:24:15.040 I think a lot of the arguments that we see 0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:17.960 from the universities, from big business, you know, about the 0:24:17.960 --> 0:24:21.119 importance of gruwing our population, they serve their own sexual interests, 0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:23.320 but I don't think they're serving a national interest anymore. 0:24:23.720 --> 0:24:26.760 Well, many would agree listening the quote, so as the 0:24:26.840 --> 0:24:29.360 quotable quote from your piece today was this, you said 0:24:29.400 --> 0:24:32.959 immigration is no longer serving the interests of Australians, but 0:24:33.080 --> 0:24:35.960 rather the immigrants who come here and powerful vested interests, 0:24:35.960 --> 0:24:38.399 including the lines you've just listed and the tertiary education 0:24:38.480 --> 0:24:42.440 sector that you say benefit mechanically from a larger population. 0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:47.520 Is this why Australian voters never get asked this question 0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:50.160 at elections or in a plebasit or anything like that, 0:24:50.560 --> 0:24:54.239 because the powerful vested interests, including the politicians, know that 0:24:54.280 --> 0:24:58.120 we want less migration, but they would lose benefits if 0:24:58.160 --> 0:24:59.840 we were to get our way. 0:25:00.200 --> 0:25:00.360 Yeah. 0:25:00.440 --> 0:25:02.040 Look, it's a really interesting question, and there was a 0:25:02.080 --> 0:25:04.159 lot of discussion of immigration and the lead up to election, 0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:06.480 but both sides just kind of waved their hands a 0:25:06.560 --> 0:25:08.840 bit and didn't really promise anything. I think there's there's 0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:12.359 largely a bipartisan consensus for the two major parties that 0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:14.800 we that we need very very rapid immigration, and I 0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:17.760 kind of don't understand why that is. They don't really 0:25:17.840 --> 0:25:21.200 explain it to the Australian people. They're obsessed with national 0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:24.080 GDP as opposed to GDP per capita, which is the 0:25:24.080 --> 0:25:26.159 one where you should be concerned about. And as you 0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:28.040 said earlier, that's been going backwards for the last three 0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:30.639 or four years. You know, the pie that you know, 0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:32.600 the slice of the pie that every Australian is getting 0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:37.920 is shrinking, and that's the measure we should be looking at. Yeah, 0:25:38.080 --> 0:25:40.680 I you know, we mentioned the universities and I think 0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:43.040 you know they are you know, I think, well, they 0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:46.120 thrive on obviously foreign student fees because they're far greater 0:25:46.280 --> 0:25:49.600 than the fees that domestic students pay. And those you know, 0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:52.480 that river of cash, that growing river of cash that 0:25:52.560 --> 0:25:54.879 they get, that's what pays all these exhaberitted vice chancellor 0:25:54.880 --> 0:25:57.600 salaries and pro vist tencelor this deputy vice chancellor of that. 0:25:58.080 --> 0:26:01.760 I mean, it's extraordinarily voted industry now. And I would say, 0:26:02.560 --> 0:26:05.600 and you know, just just anecdotally, the quality of education 0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:09.080 at our universities has been forming because of this, because 0:26:09.119 --> 0:26:13.199 the standards need to go down to you know, because 0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:16.280 many of the students can't beginish properly, So how can 0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:19.480 you go to university under those circumstances? And the local 0:26:19.480 --> 0:26:23.320 students suffer, you know, because everything gets done down and 0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:25.000 you know, I always put the question, you know, how 0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:27.960 many of these foreign students would pay these fifty sixty 0:26:28.000 --> 0:26:30.760 thousand dollars a year fees at University of Sydney, University 0:26:30.760 --> 0:26:33.199 of Melbourne if they were not allowed to work here 0:26:33.240 --> 0:26:33.960 at the end. 0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:36.320 Well, not just that, if they weren't allowed to get 0:26:36.480 --> 0:26:40.000 temporary residency, then permanent resident and then ultimately citizenship. I mean, 0:26:40.040 --> 0:26:43.040 I don't I don't want to besmirch people because you know, 0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:44.640 they're doing what I think a lot of us would 0:26:44.640 --> 0:26:47.239 do if the roles were reversed. But many of them 0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:49.439 are nothing more than the trojan horse. I mean, they 0:26:50.200 --> 0:26:54.160 are creating the beachhead for other relatives and the rest 0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:56.119 of the family to eventually get to Australia. I mean, 0:26:56.119 --> 0:26:57.960 that's how it works, right, That's why the family stump 0:26:58.040 --> 0:26:59.960 all this money up so they can go and study 0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:02.760 some obscure thing down in the back of Tasmania. 0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:03.520 Exactly. 0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:05.800 It's the end goal, isn't a degree? The end goal 0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:06.600 is residency. 0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:08.840 Yes, No, Look, I mean I always make a point of, 0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:11.399 you know, talking to so many of the uber drivers 0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:14.840 in Melbourne or Indian or Pakistani, And I always ask them, 0:27:14.840 --> 0:27:16.879 you know, on what visa are you here, and almost 0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:20.239 always it's some sort of student visa. But they're here 0:27:20.280 --> 0:27:22.040 to work, really, I mean, you know that's what they 0:27:22.119 --> 0:27:24.560 tell me. They're doing some English course on the side, 0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:27.359 but that's just to tick a box. But just back 0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:29.040 to your earlier point that you know, I've kind of 0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:33.119 the migrants that come here definitely benefit, there's no question 0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:35.200 about that. But if you're going to have a nation, 0:27:35.320 --> 0:27:38.000 if you're going to have a national government, and surely 0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:40.720 the interest of that government is to serve the voters 0:27:40.720 --> 0:27:44.640 in that country, not people overseas. So I mean it's 0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:46.679 a philosophical question, but I would argue that that you 0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:49.280 know that the Australian should be the first priority and 0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:53.000 not people from South Asia or or East Asia or wherever. 0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:55.879 Okay, that just with that, Okay, look, I don't disagree, 0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:58.040 and I mean how could you disagree unless you're some 0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:02.199 sort of internationalist or something. But you look at the debate. 0:28:02.320 --> 0:28:05.119 Now we always hear about the cost of cutting migration. 0:28:05.280 --> 0:28:08.120 That's floated around all the time, and there are genuine 0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:09.920 measurements there that say, okay, well, if you were to 0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:13.560 turn off the tap tomorrow. The care economy, the childcare 0:28:13.640 --> 0:28:15.800 age care, I mean all they just collapse. They'd be disaster. 0:28:16.160 --> 0:28:18.840 So all of this has to be nuanced and carefully balanced. 0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:23.480 But equally, there's almost no countervailing commentary by anybody that 0:28:23.600 --> 0:28:26.639 looks at the cost of the status quo. And you know, 0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:29.520 everyone paying tolls on all of these motorways, everyone who's 0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:31.400 now part of Sydney Water, who's going to have their 0:28:31.400 --> 0:28:33.959 bills close to double if if Sydney Water got their 0:28:34.000 --> 0:28:36.840 way to build all the additional infrastructure for the new housing, 0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:41.160 on and on. I mean there are cumulative costs for 0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:44.440 pump priming the economy with people that are almost never 0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:46.280 mentioned in the same breath. 0:28:46.760 --> 0:28:49.960 Yes, and you know the normal so called solution to 0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:52.480 all this that the government pays I look, well, you know, 0:28:52.520 --> 0:28:54.720 will build all this housing supply. But the housing supply 0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:57.720 that they build is generally generally apartments. They don't have 0:28:57.760 --> 0:29:00.560 people on a building, and yes, do they not have 0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:02.800 people to build it. But do Australian families really want 0:29:02.800 --> 0:29:04.840 to raise their kids in an apartment? I mean I 0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:06.800 certainly don't, never used to. Certainly I didn't grow up 0:29:06.840 --> 0:29:08.600 in an apartment. And I know in other countries that's 0:29:08.600 --> 0:29:11.200 more normal. But you know, one of the special things 0:29:11.200 --> 0:29:14.800 about Australia I thought we used to be that, you know, 0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:17.640 families on ordinary incomes could have a three or four 0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:20.400 bed room house and raise their kids there, whereas governments 0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:23.800 are effectively saying to them, sorry, you can't do that anymore. 0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:25.560 Because we're bringing all these people in, you're going to 0:29:25.600 --> 0:29:32.160 have to live in an apartment. And yes, so that 0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:33.040 is somewhat concerning. 0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:36.600 Well, it is very concerning, I would argue, Okay, so 0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:40.240 what do we do about it? Because you raise a 0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:43.960 philosophical question earlier that probably needs further debate, not that 0:29:44.000 --> 0:29:47.160 it will get it, but it's why do the political 0:29:47.200 --> 0:29:50.080 class indulge in this? And as you said, surely the 0:29:50.120 --> 0:29:53.160 Australian public should be their first priority, not someone else's 0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:57.640 public overseas. Now, my answer to that would be, are 0:29:57.680 --> 0:29:59.840 they I don't know, if they're trying to benefit so 0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:02.280 someone else's public or ours? What they're trying to benefit 0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:04.920 of their big donors? I mean, isn't that? I mean 0:30:05.200 --> 0:30:08.560 that's sort of like the corporatized view of politics, rather 0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:11.240 than the sort of pressing the flesh at the shopping 0:30:11.280 --> 0:30:14.280 center view of politics. And I wonder if that's what's 0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:17.480 happened here, that they've got big donors, they've got people 0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:20.080 that pay for their campaigns and the rest of it. Yeah, 0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:21.840 and they're the ones they hang out with and signed 0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:24.160 ten thousand dollars checks to it an overcook piece of 0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:28.160 stake at some fundraiser with and they're in the year. 0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:29.840 We're not in the area, but they're in the area 0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:31.600 saying listen, you know, you know, we've got to have 0:30:31.640 --> 0:30:33.360 more apartments built. We're going to have this built. We're 0:30:33.400 --> 0:30:35.400 going to the university go broke unless we keep the 0:30:35.400 --> 0:30:38.640 Ponzi going. And so they genuflect to them. 0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:41.400 Yes, no, look, I think that's right. I think in 0:30:41.440 --> 0:30:43.480 Australia big business has a lot of influence over the 0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:48.800 two major parties, and in the construction industry in particular 0:30:48.800 --> 0:30:53.239 benefits obviously from rapid immigration and through that, you know, 0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:57.320 the building unions, the CFWU obviously benefits because they've always 0:30:57.320 --> 0:31:00.640 got work, they've always got high paid building big high rises. 0:31:00.760 --> 0:31:02.640 I mean, if you want to be really cynical, which 0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:05.440 which sometimes I am, there is there's a lot of 0:31:05.480 --> 0:31:09.440 evidence actually that these are these immigrants when they eventually 0:31:09.440 --> 0:31:13.000 get residency of citizenship, they vote labor. So if you're 0:31:13.480 --> 0:31:15.800 you know, that's certainly true of Indians, where there's evidence 0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:17.880 that I think two to one may tend to vote 0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:20.719 for CenTra left parties as opposed to center right. And 0:31:20.800 --> 0:31:22.760 so if you're being cynical and you're the Labor party, 0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:25.040 it's you know, maybe a good kind of long term 0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:27.520 strategy to bring in lots of these people. That's a 0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:29.960 terrible thing to say, but you know that that would 0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:33.240 be rational for that party to do that, and you know, 0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:36.160 maybe to some extent that's happening that. Of course, that 0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:38.240 arguments always made in the US with the Democrats that 0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:40.160 the reason that they didn't really care so much about 0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:43.480 the millions of people crossing the border is because they 0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:48.400 suspected that they would eventually democrat one day. And there's 0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:50.720 a lot of evidence for that. You know, some Democrats 0:31:50.760 --> 0:31:51.960 thinkers say it out loud. 0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:55.400 So they do, they don't hide that. Just finally, I 0:31:55.440 --> 0:31:59.400 did an editorial yesterday on the issue, and you raise 0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:02.680 this in your piece today. The labor Prime Minister of Britain, 0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:06.959 Circus Starma, warned that with the pace of migration, and 0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:09.360 that's really the issue. It's not migration, it's the pace 0:32:10.520 --> 0:32:14.720 that the UK risked becoming an island of strangers if 0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:19.400 they don't invest enough time assimilating new arrivals into what 0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:21.560 it means to be British. I said, to be British 0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:23.440 doesn't mean you have to be white. To be British 0:32:23.480 --> 0:32:26.160 is to sign up to a set of values, the 0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:28.080 same way to be Australian it's to sign up to 0:32:28.080 --> 0:32:30.320 a set of values. Colored of the skin should be irrelevant. 0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:35.040 But if we have a lot of people from non 0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:40.000 Western jurisdictions arrive and those home jurisdictions don't have much 0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:43.040 in common with the Australian values, a way of life, 0:32:43.120 --> 0:32:46.480 or political system or legal system whatever, we are making 0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:51.200 it more difficult. Are we not assimilating en mass into 0:32:51.360 --> 0:32:54.760 the Australian psyche And that's not good for the migrant 0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:56.120 and it's not good for the country. 0:32:56.640 --> 0:32:58.120 Yes, no, Look I think that's a good point. You 0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:00.720 can't blame these migrants who are brought in large numbers 0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:03.120 forking to their own culture, because that's what we would 0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:05.360 do in that situation. We do exactly the same thing. 0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:09.400 But because they are being brought in in such large numbers, 0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:12.720 and if they're from non English speaking backgrounds, which of 0:33:12.760 --> 0:33:14.520 course many of them are, then they just keep speaking 0:33:14.560 --> 0:33:17.959 their own language and they never properly learn English. I mean, 0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:19.760 I've been struck. I mean I've just moved to South 0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:21.440 Bank in Melbourne, which is, you know, which is very 0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:24.400 inner city, and the number of people here who can 0:33:24.400 --> 0:33:27.000 only speak Chinese has kind of shocks me actually, you know, 0:33:27.320 --> 0:33:31.440 as I observe it it shops and in various interactions, 0:33:32.040 --> 0:33:35.280 and you know that's understandable from those Chinese movement to 0:33:35.280 --> 0:33:36.800 point of view. But there are just so many here 0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:40.880 that you can function just speaking Chinese. But is that 0:33:40.920 --> 0:33:43.080 good for Australia long term? I don't you know, I'd 0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:48.240 say probably not. But I think people are slowly starting 0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:51.160 to wake up. And just back to Starma. You know 0:33:51.200 --> 0:33:54.000 what's extraordinary compared to the UK and Australia is, you know, 0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:56.240 we are seemingly a lot more torrent. Actually, we don't 0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:58.240 have the level of anger that's brewing over there yet 0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:02.560 in the UK. And tribute to Australians actually, because we 0:34:02.600 --> 0:34:06.080 are far further down that path of being an island 0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:08.759 of strangers, as he put it, than they are. And 0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:11.840 yet and yet it's over there that they're starting to 0:34:11.840 --> 0:34:14.080 be this real political pushback, and I think Starmer and 0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:17.440 the Labor Party there they've looked at the polls. They're saying, 0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:19.040 you know, they're kind of worried about a wipeout in 0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:22.120 three years time, and they're changing their rhetoric and they've 0:34:22.200 --> 0:34:23.480 changed it very starkly. Too. 0:34:24.440 --> 0:34:26.160 Very good to talk, Thank you, Adam. Have a good 0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:26.600 long week again. 0:34:26.960 --> 0:34:28.040 Michael, Yeah, thanks very much. 0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:30.560 All the best. Bye, By Adam Crichton. Always very interesting 0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:32.400 to be able to pick Adam's brain, as said Adam, 0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:34.840 now the senior Fellow and chief Economists at the Institute 0:34:34.840 --> 0:34:36.839 of Public Affairs five to one. I should have mentioned, 0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:38.359 by the way, the article in the Odds today by 0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:40.600 Adam Crichton. It is worth a read. Whether you agree 0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:41.840 or not doesn't matter. You have a read and you 0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:44.400 come up with your own conclusions. But it's titled political 0:34:44.440 --> 0:34:49.160 ineptitude bloated unis fuel immigration chaos. And it's particularly interesting because, 0:34:49.480 --> 0:34:51.680 as Adam just confirmed there, he used to be of 0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:54.239 the opinion not that long ago that what we're doing 0:34:54.239 --> 0:34:57.160 now is a really good thing. But he's changed his mind, 0:34:57.480 --> 0:35:00.480 and I suspect more and more. People who were part 0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:04.520 of the Big Australia Lobby but maybe weren't financially benefiting 0:35:04.600 --> 0:35:06.080 from it, they just thought it was a good thing, 0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:08.480 are also changing their mind. Now Steve will give us 0:35:08.520 --> 0:35:10.400 some update, some details. In just a moment. I am 0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:14.120 getting reports of an accident lane Cove Road and Cox's Road, 0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:16.279 the intersection of lane Cove Road and Coxes Road at 0:35:16.320 --> 0:35:19.000 North Ryde and accident. Steve will give us some details 0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:21.239 coming up there, no doubt. Interesting note here from Lee 0:35:21.280 --> 0:35:23.720 who says the census is held every five or six years. 0:35:23.840 --> 0:35:26.680 The last one was held twenty twenty one. Among other matters, 0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:29.520 info collected during the census is designed to assist with 0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:33.640 the planning for a future country. What's gone wrong? It's 0:35:33.800 --> 0:35:36.360 very good question, Lee, Very good news just coming up 0:35:36.400 --> 0:35:38.480 around the corner. Then we'll catch up with a world 0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:43.160 renowned cat judge. Yes, Stephen Miserver's here for the inaugural 0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:45.680 OZ Feline Fair. Look forward to that. 0:35:45.760 --> 0:35:51.880 After one, Now onto GB and Network stations. Back to 0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:54.319 afternoons with Michael McLaren. 0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:57.279 Seven past one. Thank you for your company. It is 0:35:57.400 --> 0:35:59.920 Friday and it's pretty cold out there, but it is 0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:01.879 that time of year, So just stick on a couple 0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:04.160 of extra layers and you'll be right. One three, one 0:36:04.200 --> 0:36:06.600 eight seven three the open line number. Of course, we'll 0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:09.799 get to our cat judge in just a moment. We've 0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:12.840 got this huge thing. It's massive, the os Feline Fair 0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:14.880 coming to Sydney. There'll be stacks of people down there, 0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:17.920 and it's big all over the world. So Sidney's getting 0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:19.680 its turn this weekend. I'll introduce you to that in 0:36:19.719 --> 0:36:24.040 just a moment. Now, Susan Lee with two s's, of course, 0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:29.040 is now the opposition leader. It was always going to 0:36:29.120 --> 0:36:34.160 be a bit of a problem for her explaining why 0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:37.880 and this is so trivial, okay, but the truth is 0:36:37.920 --> 0:36:42.000 that for most people, their interaction with politics is trivial. 0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:46.720 So Susan was always going to have an issue trying 0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:50.640 to explain how the extra s got in there. And 0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:54.759 we know the long standing story was, because I think 0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:57.279 she said it was, was that she was into new 0:36:57.360 --> 0:37:00.360 neurology at one point and basically the numbers all lined 0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:02.279 up if you added the extra s, and there was 0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:05.160 going to be good fortune and happiness going forward. So 0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:08.400 she's stuck it in there. So she's on our sister 0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:11.719 station THREEAW this morning having a big chat about the 0:37:11.760 --> 0:37:13.920 Liberal Party and it's rebuilt and all of that sort 0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:17.840 of stuff. And then she was asked, I don't know 0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:20.400 who was on this morning, but she was asked a 0:37:20.480 --> 0:37:25.200 lighthearted question about the doubles, just to break the ice. Now, 0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:28.560 remember in twenty fifteen, there's a profile with a newspaper 0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:30.759 out here, and she said, I read about this numerology 0:37:30.880 --> 0:37:32.759 theory that if you add the numbers that match the 0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:35.200 letter in your name, you can change your personality. And 0:37:35.440 --> 0:37:37.880 I worked out that if you added an S, I 0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:40.880 would have an incredibly exciting, interesting life. And okay, so 0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:43.439 there is right clear as the nose on your face. 0:37:43.520 --> 0:37:45.680 I believed in neumeurology and that's why I did it. 0:37:46.160 --> 0:37:52.200 So then she's asked today on THREEAW about this and 0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:57.640 said something a little different. Susan with two s's Lee 0:37:57.760 --> 0:38:01.200 says it was something I did during my rebel teenage years, 0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:03.719 and you know I went through a punk phase in 0:38:03.800 --> 0:38:07.120 those years and added the extra S. People have been 0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:12.239 fascinated by the numerology angle, but it's actually not correct. Okay, 0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:15.000 but you told us it was. It was Tom Elliott 0:38:15.040 --> 0:38:18.440 this morning. Okay, So Tom's probably sitting there going, I'm 0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:21.000 sure I read it in the article, So now it's 0:38:21.239 --> 0:38:25.320 she was what punks do. Apparently punks add extra consonants 0:38:25.320 --> 0:38:28.280 to their names or somethings. They rebel against the system. 0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:31.840 So I don't know. As I said, it's so trivial, 0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:35.319 it's irrelevant. But it's just going to be one of 0:38:35.360 --> 0:38:37.880 those little things. You just watch this. I'm saying, you 0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:40.520 just watched this. Over the next three years, be one 0:38:40.520 --> 0:38:43.760 of those those little things that, like a small bindi 0:38:43.840 --> 0:38:48.240 in your heel, just keeps making itself known and present 0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:51.360 all the way through. It's a distraction, it's a nuisance, 0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:55.440 and there'll be a lot of people out there that think, okay, 0:38:56.000 --> 0:39:00.640 leading the conservative forces and you're into new mourology. Come 0:39:01.360 --> 0:39:04.960 not sure? Now again, is that fair on Susan? Probably not. 0:39:05.880 --> 0:39:08.720 Everybody has beliefs at one point they change those beliefs 0:39:08.760 --> 0:39:11.600 and you know whatever. But as I say, just watch 0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:15.640 this space, it's going to be a hindrance for her. 0:39:16.040 --> 0:39:17.840 Because I'm in the media, I know how it works. 0:39:18.600 --> 0:39:21.680 If there's one thing that journalists like doing, it's they 0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:25.080 like asking questions about so little trivial things that sort 0:39:25.080 --> 0:39:27.560 of personalize the other person that aren't about all the 0:39:27.600 --> 0:39:30.840 heavy stuff, bogging the listener down in too much detail 0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:34.120 and minusier. But when those little things aren't. Oh do 0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:36.640 you like dogs or cats? When they're about you know, 0:39:36.680 --> 0:39:38.960 why did you change your name? Were you really into 0:39:39.000 --> 0:39:41.239 all that numerology stuff? You know? Do you believe it 0:39:42.320 --> 0:39:46.040 that will be a net negative for Susan going forward? 0:39:46.480 --> 0:39:54.640 Just watch it one three, one eight seven three. Well 0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:57.759 look in bad news for dog people. Our pussycats are 0:39:57.760 --> 0:40:01.920 about to be celebrated like never with the oz fee 0:40:01.920 --> 0:40:04.839 Line Fair coming to town. In fact this weekend. It's 0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:08.640 Australia's first national cat convention, uniting a passionate community of 0:40:08.760 --> 0:40:11.720 enthusiasts and breeders and brands to one of the magic 0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:14.320 of our feeline friends. Now. Some of the cat centric 0:40:14.400 --> 0:40:17.680 festivities include the vendor Village that's I'm told going to 0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:21.279 offer an eclectic mix of cat themed products and services. 0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:25.360 There's also the per Creation's Alley I kid you not, 0:40:26.120 --> 0:40:29.000 and that gives you the chance to discover artisan, handmade 0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:31.080 and handcrafted treasures. Of course, there's going to be cat 0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:33.480 judging going on as well, and for those looking to 0:40:33.480 --> 0:40:35.640 add a bit of fashion and flare to the weekend. Well, 0:40:35.680 --> 0:40:40.120 there is the Cosplay Catwalk. It invites attendees to put 0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:42.839 on their best cat costumes for a chance to win 0:40:43.200 --> 0:40:45.840 incredible prizes. Now, this is going to be taking place 0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:48.560 in Sydney down to the Convention Center, I believe. But 0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:51.680 headlining the event is the globally recognized Cat Judge and 0:40:51.719 --> 0:40:55.560 also social media sensation Stephen Berserver. And he's on the 0:40:55.600 --> 0:40:58.040 line with me, Steven afternoon. 0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:00.400 Thank you, Yeah, thanks so much, thanks for having me 0:41:00.719 --> 0:41:01.680 excited to be here. 0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:05.600 Pleasure. America, of course, is your country of origin? 0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:08.080 Well, I mean originally yet, but I live in Portugal 0:41:08.120 --> 0:41:08.759 now full time. 0:41:09.000 --> 0:41:12.760 So yeah, what's the what's the cat like in Portugal? 0:41:13.320 --> 0:41:16.440 It's Mediterranean Europe, so I mean they take good care 0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:19.000 of their cats, but they still need a little bit 0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:21.920 of a little bit more education on Spain and utering, 0:41:22.040 --> 0:41:25.400 but it's a I mean, they do love their animals there, absolutely. 0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:30.080 Okay, Now you're behind an entity called Loving Cats Worldwide indeed, 0:41:30.360 --> 0:41:32.839 and worldwide is the key because over the past two years, 0:41:32.880 --> 0:41:35.680 I think even the team but LCWW have hosted something 0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:38.840 like seventy of these events globally, haven't you. 0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:42.000 Yeah, it's been it's been a mental run. To be honest, 0:41:42.080 --> 0:41:44.120 I mean it's this is not I mean, well it 0:41:44.160 --> 0:41:46.920 is now my kind of like second part of my life. 0:41:46.960 --> 0:41:50.880 But this wasn't the way I intended. I mean I 0:41:51.080 --> 0:41:53.840 worked in pr and marketing for a long time and 0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:57.040 I was always a cat judge with a different organization 0:41:57.600 --> 0:42:01.839 based out of the United States, things differently, But I 0:42:01.920 --> 0:42:05.799 wanted I wanted to do something, you know, something new 0:42:05.880 --> 0:42:08.919 or something more engaging. Something It was time to give 0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:12.359 cats their their time. Yeah, and it was it was 0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:15.120 I mean whether or not I caught on to the 0:42:15.200 --> 0:42:18.680 cat craze or it was created by what we're doing. 0:42:19.120 --> 0:42:21.560 You know, we just we just celebrate the cat, you know, 0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:23.600 if you're a Persian or if you're a if you're 0:42:23.960 --> 0:42:26.920 just an orange Margie from your grandmother's backyard. Like we 0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:30.839 just we just we just do things a little bit differently, Yeah, 0:42:30.880 --> 0:42:33.920 a little bit more showy, a little bit more entertaining, 0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:37.719 engaging and educational. Cat shows aren't a new thing. I 0:42:37.760 --> 0:42:40.680 mean like they've existed in Australia, I mean a hundred 0:42:41.040 --> 0:42:44.200 over one hundred years and to be fair, like the 0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:48.640 the Cat the Cat. First cat show took place in 0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:52.400 London's Crystal Palace just only twelve years after the first 0:42:52.440 --> 0:42:55.640 dog show, so it's not that far behind. But if 0:42:55.680 --> 0:42:58.680 you think about it, why is that? Well because cat 0:42:58.680 --> 0:43:01.880 people are introverts and now here I come along and 0:43:01.920 --> 0:43:04.080 we're kind of blowing it up again, blowing it up 0:43:04.120 --> 0:43:04.560 for you. 0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:07.440 Don't You don't strike me as an introvert. 0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:12.560 With yeah, extravated introvert. Maybe is my better is my 0:43:12.640 --> 0:43:13.200 better way? 0:43:13.320 --> 0:43:13.520 Right? 0:43:13.560 --> 0:43:15.839 But you know, yeah, but it's it's it's a it's 0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:17.760 a it's it's been a crazy, it's been a crazy. 0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:20.440 This is only we've only been doing this three years 0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:25.560 and we're now all over US, Canada, United Kingdom, Japan, Philippines, Taiwan, 0:43:25.920 --> 0:43:29.280 South America and obviously we had six cities this tour, 0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:32.200 Sydney finishes it up for me. So I am indeed 0:43:32.239 --> 0:43:34.960 looking as much as I love Australia and I love 0:43:35.000 --> 0:43:38.160 the people. I was actually stayed in Sydney last year 0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:42.160 for two months and I judged for the Australian Association, 0:43:42.360 --> 0:43:45.200 So Sydney has become kind of my second home and 0:43:45.200 --> 0:43:46.160 I really do love it here. 0:43:46.200 --> 0:43:50.320 We're very welcome. Do the do the cats vary from 0:43:50.640 --> 0:43:53.440 country to country? That might be a ridiculous question. But 0:43:53.520 --> 0:43:57.000 do you tend to see different types of cats more 0:43:57.040 --> 0:43:59.760 popular in the UK as opposed to Canada, as opposed 0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:03.120 to the Philippines, or I mean, do you discern these differences. 0:44:03.280 --> 0:44:07.200 You're you're colonized cats, you know, if you think about it, 0:44:07.239 --> 0:44:09.719 the British short hairs are the cats that originated in 0:44:09.760 --> 0:44:14.080 the United Kingdom have a pretty heavy presence here in Australia. 0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:17.439 British short hairs devon rex corner tracks, And I guess 0:44:17.520 --> 0:44:20.520 that kind of makes sense. But you know I did 0:44:21.280 --> 0:44:24.400 the last year I was here. I was really and 0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:27.920 I'm probably the most seasoned, maybe not by age, but 0:44:27.960 --> 0:44:30.960 by I judged the most in an annual. Yeah, for 0:44:31.280 --> 0:44:33.399 I always have, you know, I always took about thirty 0:44:33.400 --> 0:44:37.360 assignments a year and I've judged all over the world. 0:44:37.360 --> 0:44:40.160 And that's a good question, and it really, it really 0:44:40.200 --> 0:44:42.640 is interesting. Australia kind of caught me off guard because 0:44:42.640 --> 0:44:45.000 I was like, oh gosh, it's quarantine. It's an island. 0:44:45.000 --> 0:44:47.640 The cats are going to be feral, Like I mean, 0:44:47.680 --> 0:44:49.680 like this is what I thought, Like they're going to 0:44:49.760 --> 0:44:52.120 be like inbred and like you know what I mean, 0:44:52.160 --> 0:44:54.239 And like I was like because it's kind of what 0:44:54.320 --> 0:44:57.200 the UK was, you know for the longest time until 0:44:57.239 --> 0:44:59.840 they released the quarantine and things have gotten a lot better. 0:45:00.200 --> 0:45:02.799 But you know, to put it into perspective because you 0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:07.880 have such intense quarantine laws and importation of animals. You know, 0:45:07.920 --> 0:45:12.160 if you're going to spend twenty thirty forty thousand dollars 0:45:12.239 --> 0:45:15.680 getting a cat into the country, you're going to buy 0:45:15.760 --> 0:45:18.319 the best of the best, do you know what I mean? 0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:21.239 So like that is that is something that I mean, 0:45:21.280 --> 0:45:24.800 the quality of the cats is, if not the best 0:45:24.920 --> 0:45:27.120 or pretty pretty close to the best in the world. 0:45:27.280 --> 0:45:30.239 That's interesting to know. I mean one of your focuses 0:45:30.280 --> 0:45:32.279 over all of these years of judging, of course, has 0:45:32.320 --> 0:45:34.440 also been on what goes on behind the scenes, and 0:45:34.440 --> 0:45:36.360 you're speaking about bringing the best of the best, I 0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:38.640 mean behind behind all of the cats that we see 0:45:38.680 --> 0:45:42.399 as a breeding program. And they're good breeders, there are 0:45:42.400 --> 0:45:45.160 bad breeders, right, So I mean, how do you, as 0:45:45.160 --> 0:45:48.719 a judge put your name or your voice to encouraging 0:45:48.760 --> 0:45:52.400 good breeding practices and the sort of the cowboy element 0:45:52.440 --> 0:45:53.640 getting them out of the industry. 0:45:53.920 --> 0:45:56.360 Yeah, exactly, as a as a judge, you know what 0:45:56.440 --> 0:45:58.560 I mean? If you want to. I'll answer this in 0:45:58.600 --> 0:46:01.040 two ways. As a judge. You know, we can only 0:46:01.120 --> 0:46:02.920 know what we see in front of us, right, I 0:46:02.960 --> 0:46:06.319 don't know, unfortunately, how this cat is kept at home. 0:46:06.560 --> 0:46:09.920 I don't know if the cat has been at all 0:46:09.960 --> 0:46:12.799 the proper scans breed related and you know, and there's 0:46:12.840 --> 0:46:15.520 a lot of stuff that I mean, ethical breeders can 0:46:15.560 --> 0:46:18.680 really cut out people don't know, Like I mean, if 0:46:18.719 --> 0:46:21.239 you want to add a pedigree cat to your life, absolutely, 0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:23.239 I always say that you should take a rescue as well. 0:46:23.280 --> 0:46:25.440 I have seven rescues at home, you know. But the 0:46:26.239 --> 0:46:30.719 and we we we we give the people the questions 0:46:30.760 --> 0:46:33.400 to ask, like people don't know, like I don't know 0:46:33.440 --> 0:46:36.840 what you're equivalent to to Craigslist or like you know, 0:46:36.960 --> 0:46:39.600 whatever you list here like for things for sale or 0:46:39.600 --> 0:46:42.799 Facebook marketplace like these are always red flags, you know, 0:46:43.360 --> 0:46:45.600 if they want to bring the cat to a car park, 0:46:45.680 --> 0:46:48.400 and I mean for you, I mean that's another red flag, 0:46:48.400 --> 0:46:51.520 like really simple things that we've kind of you know, 0:46:51.680 --> 0:46:54.480 you you want to go. You want to add that 0:46:54.520 --> 0:46:57.080 cat to your life for twenty years, so you want 0:46:57.120 --> 0:47:01.720 to make sure you're doing doing your homework and asking 0:47:01.880 --> 0:47:05.560 breed specific questions like a main kun has a high 0:47:05.640 --> 0:47:08.440 probability of heart issues, like you need to ask for 0:47:08.520 --> 0:47:11.080 the scans of the hearts. They can't one hundred percent 0:47:11.120 --> 0:47:13.719 eradicate it, but they can do their best. So there's 0:47:13.719 --> 0:47:15.960 little things like this, which when I do that Loving 0:47:16.000 --> 0:47:18.080 Count's catwalk, we do a whole like kind of meet 0:47:18.120 --> 0:47:20.160 the breed's presentation and talk about the health and the 0:47:20.200 --> 0:47:24.120 history and everything to kind of give people the idea 0:47:24.360 --> 0:47:26.919 of what to do. But we also we'd also work 0:47:27.000 --> 0:47:30.360 with every rescue that we can possibly get in the building. 0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:32.400 And some of the shows in data like in the 0:47:32.520 --> 0:47:34.600 US where we have a huge show in Dallas that 0:47:34.760 --> 0:47:38.759 is like eight thousand square meters. It's massive, and we 0:47:38.760 --> 0:47:42.879 we sometimes have between like thirty and forty rescues represented 0:47:43.160 --> 0:47:47.000 from all over. So that's another big part. And at 0:47:47.040 --> 0:47:49.920 Loving Counts like we are the only association in the 0:47:49.960 --> 0:47:53.520 world as of right now. Yeah, yeah, because it seems 0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:56.120 everyone likes to he likes to take note, right, but 0:47:56.160 --> 0:47:59.120 we are the only association in the world that like 0:47:59.239 --> 0:48:02.920 we we believe that your Orange Maggie or your Tortoiseshell 0:48:03.200 --> 0:48:07.759 is just as deserving of being gushed over and rewarded 0:48:08.280 --> 0:48:11.120 just like a fancy white Persian main cooner Bengal. An 0:48:11.160 --> 0:48:16.080 actually funny story last week in Perth and has never 0:48:16.280 --> 0:48:19.080 happened before. It's only my three years, but it's never 0:48:19.120 --> 0:48:21.840 happened before. We have like what we call the overall 0:48:21.880 --> 0:48:24.240 best in Show, where it's kind of like a mathematical 0:48:24.280 --> 0:48:27.239 equation and we bring back the number ones of the 0:48:27.320 --> 0:48:29.520 kitten class, the junior class, the adult class, and the 0:48:29.560 --> 0:48:33.000 maggie class with the household pets, and the judges vote 0:48:33.040 --> 0:48:36.080 for an overall best in show like the supreme you know, 0:48:36.200 --> 0:48:41.120 of that particular show. And last weekend was a like 0:48:41.160 --> 0:48:45.120 a one year old female run of the male ginger 0:48:45.280 --> 0:48:49.400 tabby cat named Pumpkin, Like that's never happened. 0:48:49.400 --> 0:48:49.600 You know. 0:48:49.719 --> 0:48:54.160 And yeah, the people loved it. It's like exploded, like 0:48:54.239 --> 0:48:55.839 the undercat, you know what I mean. 0:48:56.600 --> 0:48:58.680 We love well Ina Striylie, we love an onderdog, but 0:48:58.920 --> 0:48:59.359 we can call. 0:48:59.280 --> 0:49:01.680 It yeah yeah, yeah, for this purpose. 0:49:01.520 --> 0:49:05.320 Now, Okay, Sydney June seven and eight, the International Convention Center, 0:49:05.680 --> 0:49:07.839 that's where it's all going to be taking place. Now. 0:49:07.880 --> 0:49:09.920 You know they say dog owners come to look like 0:49:09.960 --> 0:49:12.440 their dogs. Do you do you see a similar phenomenon 0:49:12.480 --> 0:49:14.840 with cat owners to some of them start to resemble 0:49:14.880 --> 0:49:16.000 their feeline brind. 0:49:16.560 --> 0:49:19.000 It seems to me like, I mean, I never really, 0:49:19.080 --> 0:49:21.399 I mean I started to take notice of this over 0:49:21.400 --> 0:49:22.560 the last few years. 0:49:22.600 --> 0:49:24.160 But you know, you do. 0:49:24.239 --> 0:49:28.919 See like these chunky, chunk British cats, you know, cheshire cat, right, 0:49:29.040 --> 0:49:31.480 like these big like I call them the rugby players 0:49:31.480 --> 0:49:35.320 here in Australia, but like sometimes the owners are pretty close, 0:49:35.480 --> 0:49:35.680 you know. 0:49:39.239 --> 0:49:40.680 Just don't say that to their face, all. 0:49:40.640 --> 0:49:43.480 Right, yeah, indeed, indeed. 0:49:43.160 --> 0:49:45.560 All right, Well, welcome to Sydney. Good luck with all 0:49:45.600 --> 0:49:47.200 the event. It's going to be a massive do I mean, 0:49:47.200 --> 0:49:48.640 if you're down at the convention Center, there'll be a 0:49:48.680 --> 0:49:51.000 lot of humans and a lot of cats. So good 0:49:51.120 --> 0:49:53.200 luck with that. That's all I can say. And thank 0:49:53.239 --> 0:49:54.359 you for your time very much. 0:49:54.400 --> 0:49:56.360 Yeah, thank you very much. Have a good rest of 0:49:56.360 --> 0:49:58.000 your afternoon, hopefully with you guys. 0:49:57.760 --> 0:50:02.480 There absolutely the world renowned cat judge Stephen Miserve, all right, okay, 0:50:02.480 --> 0:50:04.480 it's twenty five past one. Thank you for your company. 0:50:04.560 --> 0:50:07.080 My goodness. He was enthusiastic about cats, wasn't he. One three, 0:50:07.120 --> 0:50:10.280 one eight seven three the open line number. An interesting 0:50:10.320 --> 0:50:12.560 point by Tom by the way. Saying that, Stephen said 0:50:12.560 --> 0:50:14.160 that Katz had been in this country for about one 0:50:14.200 --> 0:50:16.440 hundred years, so I'd probably more like two hundred, because 0:50:16.760 --> 0:50:19.879 when you think back, Matthew Flinders took Trim with him 0:50:19.880 --> 0:50:23.080 on the expeditionary journeys around Australia. Will he did. It's 0:50:23.080 --> 0:50:26.000 a nice little statue to Trim outside the State Library 0:50:26.000 --> 0:50:28.200 of New South Wales, of course, one three, one eight 0:50:28.320 --> 0:50:31.640 seven three. Now we do still have that outstanding family 0:50:31.719 --> 0:50:34.440 pass to Tarron Gazoo to give away, so we do 0:50:34.560 --> 0:50:37.239 need someone to try to guess the grunter. I said, 0:50:37.239 --> 0:50:39.320 this is difficult. I might have to give a clue. 0:50:39.320 --> 0:50:42.160 But before I do, let's just revisit these beautiful sounds, 0:50:42.200 --> 0:50:46.080 these decibels of joy that came from Melbourne Park actually 0:50:46.120 --> 0:51:14.160 a number of years ago. Now, the screaming at the 0:51:14.239 --> 0:51:17.240 end was Serena Williams, all right, but the grunts earlier. 0:51:17.360 --> 0:51:19.560 Someone should have just given one of those Caruso products. 0:51:19.560 --> 0:51:21.040 It would have saved her a lot of trouble. But 0:51:21.840 --> 0:51:24.920 the grunts earlier, that's who we're after. Now, if you 0:51:25.040 --> 0:51:27.239 think you know one three one eight seventy three, the 0:51:27.360 --> 0:51:30.799 family pastor tarn Gazoo coming your way, and interesting, look, 0:51:30.960 --> 0:51:32.480 I might be able to throw in a bonus price. 0:51:32.520 --> 0:51:35.160 I can't promise this. I'm just talking out loud here, 0:51:35.160 --> 0:51:38.240 but this we may be able to do something. Because Jacob, 0:51:38.280 --> 0:51:43.719 our executive producer, came in earlier today and gave me 0:51:43.800 --> 0:51:47.040 a rendition of his tennis grunt was very good. It 0:51:47.080 --> 0:51:51.040 was actually very good. So perhaps the resident grunt a 0:51:51.120 --> 0:51:55.160 Graham himself, Jacob, could make an appearance at your home 0:51:55.360 --> 0:51:58.600 or birthday party or whatever you needed, just a little 0:51:58.640 --> 0:52:00.440 bit of something. Actually, I mean, I have to run 0:52:00.480 --> 0:52:02.440 that by him, but he doesn't one hell of a grunt, 0:52:02.560 --> 0:52:05.040 does Jacob. So anyway, I certainly have the Taronga Zoo 0:52:05.080 --> 0:52:06.879 pass for you. I'll give you a clue as well, 0:52:06.920 --> 0:52:09.120 because I think we went through every tennis female tennis 0:52:09.160 --> 0:52:11.759 player that had been born, but to almost every we 0:52:11.760 --> 0:52:13.480 missed the one that obviously the ads, but every other 0:52:13.480 --> 0:52:15.440 one that been born since about nineteen oh six yesterday, 0:52:15.480 --> 0:52:18.200 none of them were right. The name does end, as 0:52:18.239 --> 0:52:22.160 most tennis player female names do, in Ova. And this 0:52:22.280 --> 0:52:25.400 lady was born in the Czech Republic, all right, So 0:52:25.480 --> 0:52:28.440 that gives you a bit of help. She's check. She's 0:52:28.480 --> 0:52:34.040 a former tennis player now, yes, and like almost everybody there. 0:52:34.080 --> 0:52:38.000 The surname ends in ov A. So if we can 0:52:38.040 --> 0:52:39.840 over and out this one as quickly as possible, that 0:52:39.880 --> 0:52:43.480 would be good. One three, one eight seven three. All right, 0:52:43.560 --> 0:52:46.880 let's say if you can find a winner. Hello, Dot, Hello, 0:52:46.960 --> 0:52:49.719 how are you? I'm all right? How are you cool? 0:52:49.800 --> 0:52:51.120 I think I've got the wrong name. 0:52:51.160 --> 0:52:52.400 I was going to say Mary. 0:52:52.160 --> 0:52:55.040 Peace the French girl. No, was a Mary Pierce. How 0:52:55.120 --> 0:52:56.680 you have a great weekend though, Dot? Thank you for 0:52:56.760 --> 0:53:00.880 your call. Jennifer. Yes, who is it? 0:53:02.120 --> 0:53:04.680 I believe I've got it wrong too. I thought it 0:53:04.920 --> 0:53:06.560 might have been Monica Sellers. 0:53:06.719 --> 0:53:08.959 Yeah. Look, if it was Monica Sellers over you would 0:53:08.960 --> 0:53:11.959 have been closed. But no, not Monica Sellers. It wasn't 0:53:12.000 --> 0:53:15.520 Monica Sellers. No, So the naming zen Ova she was 0:53:15.640 --> 0:53:19.560 check what you say? According to Wikipedia, this girl won 0:53:19.600 --> 0:53:22.879 five lady now five hundred and eighty three thousand, three 0:53:22.920 --> 0:53:26.040 hundred and ten US dollars in prize money. Not too 0:53:26.080 --> 0:53:31.680 bad in the scheme of things. Now, what about Noel? Hello? 0:53:33.520 --> 0:53:34.040 Who was it? 0:53:35.960 --> 0:53:36.320 Billy? 0:53:37.719 --> 0:53:40.800 No? No, it wasn't Billy. I don't think Billy Jenkin 0:53:41.000 --> 0:53:43.160 was a grunter. I don't. I might be wrong, but 0:53:43.200 --> 0:53:48.200 it wasn't. No nol calls coming through thick and fast, 0:53:48.200 --> 0:53:55.360 but we better vet them, just careful. And thank you 0:53:55.400 --> 0:53:58.160 for the text messages. But no, none of those are 0:53:58.200 --> 0:54:05.440 correct answers either. All right? Who we got here? Scott? Scott? 0:54:05.480 --> 0:54:06.279 Who do you think it is? 0:54:07.520 --> 0:54:09.040 I think it's Maria Sharapova. 0:54:09.239 --> 0:54:13.319 No? Was it Maria Sharapova yesterday? And isn't today? Thank 0:54:13.360 --> 0:54:16.040 you for the called Mike in Adelaide. Who is it 0:54:16.120 --> 0:54:25.200 Mike pet No? No, not her either, Julia, Who do 0:54:25.239 --> 0:54:25.759 you think it is? 0:54:26.560 --> 0:54:27.080 How are you hi? 0:54:27.160 --> 0:54:28.719 Julia? I'm good. Who do you do you reckon it is? 0:54:28.840 --> 0:54:30.600 I think it's Anna corner Kova? 0:54:31.440 --> 0:54:35.360 No, no, no, I know she could grunt, but it 0:54:35.440 --> 0:54:38.880 wasn't her. No, thank you, Julia. All the best we've had, Scott, 0:54:38.880 --> 0:54:40.680 we've had all right. So no, none of those, none 0:54:40.719 --> 0:54:43.160 of the above, none of yesterday's. I think we might 0:54:43.239 --> 0:54:47.000 have to for everybody sanity here, have to give another clue. 0:54:47.640 --> 0:54:53.280 First name Sandra. Sandra is the first name. Surname means 0:54:53.280 --> 0:54:56.640 in Ova. She pocketed over half a million, or six 0:54:56.680 --> 0:54:59.439 hundred thousand US prize money in her time. She's check. 0:55:00.360 --> 0:55:04.560 Does that help? I don't know. We'll find out. No, 0:55:04.800 --> 0:55:07.319 And the text keep saying, Marie sharrapovit wasn't Maria. We've 0:55:07.360 --> 0:55:10.799 got Maria on file. We can compare these, but it 0:55:10.920 --> 0:55:13.560 wasn't her. We'll get to the news in just a moment. 0:55:13.560 --> 0:55:15.399 We'll find an answer after that. Of course, one three 0:55:15.400 --> 0:55:17.719 one eight seven three. We'll give away that family pass 0:55:17.760 --> 0:55:19.920 to Taronga. Zoos I said yesterday. And the reason we're 0:55:19.960 --> 0:55:23.360 giving that pass away yesterday was the giving day, Taronga 0:55:23.360 --> 0:55:26.279 Giving Day and the raising of the money. The aim was, 0:55:26.360 --> 0:55:28.319 of course, to get the money for a brand new 0:55:28.360 --> 0:55:31.719 Taronga Wildlife Hospital. 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And Elon Musk has recorded the second biggest 0:56:41.400 --> 0:56:44.440 single day loss of personal wealth in the history of 0:56:44.480 --> 0:56:49.720 Bloomberg's Billionaire Index, amid his fallout with US President Donald Trump. 0:56:50.080 --> 0:56:52.480 In Sport, the Indiana Pacers have fought back to steel 0:56:52.520 --> 0:56:54.759 victory from the Oklahoma City Thunder in the opening game 0:56:54.800 --> 0:56:57.440 with the NBA Finals. Are late two pointer from Tarry's 0:56:57.480 --> 0:57:00.239 Halliburton gave the Paces a one hundred and eleven to 0:57:00.360 --> 0:57:03.160 one hundred and ten win. There'll be more news at 0:57:03.160 --> 0:57:05.839 two o'clock on afternoons. 0:57:06.160 --> 0:57:07.480 Oh weather update. 0:57:07.719 --> 0:57:10.759 We'll be here to help in unexpected weather in our 0:57:10.800 --> 0:57:12.920 remainsurance a help company. 0:57:13.280 --> 0:57:14.879 It's got to say. People are suggesting on the text 0:57:14.920 --> 0:57:17.680 lining tennis players. I've never heard of these, just random 0:57:17.760 --> 0:57:19.880 rames out of the check phone book. I don't know 0:57:19.920 --> 0:57:23.520 who these we are. Weatherwyse today partly cloudy for Sydney 0:57:23.560 --> 0:57:27.120 a top of eighteen, are the same for Penrith and 0:57:27.240 --> 0:57:30.520 Richmond seventeen, the top for paramount of Campbelltown and Liverpool eighteen. 0:57:30.640 --> 0:57:34.880 Also for Bondai Today tomorrow mostly sunny in Town nineteen 0:57:35.000 --> 0:57:37.760 the top and then just a possible shower one mill 0:57:37.920 --> 0:57:42.440 or so afternoon or evening more likely on Sunday top 0:57:42.480 --> 0:57:46.280 of seventeen. Now Canberra today thirteen and cloudy showers tomorrow 0:57:46.360 --> 0:57:48.880 maybe five mil of rain top of just eleven, and 0:57:48.880 --> 0:57:50.880 then the follow up of maybe nine mil of rain 0:57:50.960 --> 0:57:54.920 on Sunday a top of ten. Tugrenong today thirteen like 0:57:55.000 --> 0:57:59.320 the nation's capital liftgo well morning frost and thirteen for 0:57:59.360 --> 0:58:01.960 you as well, cloud conditions eleven for Orange mud you 0:58:01.960 --> 0:58:04.840 will get to fifteen bathists fourteen thirteen a katomba spring 0:58:04.880 --> 0:58:07.000 with a little warmer at eighteen. That's all right, partner. 0:58:07.000 --> 0:58:10.160 Cloudy tomorrow for Lythgo and eleven maybe a mill of rain. 0:58:10.240 --> 0:58:13.840 Another seven mil potentially on Sunday showers are expected in 0:58:13.880 --> 0:58:17.480 lyfthgover top of just eight degrees one three one eight 0:58:17.560 --> 0:58:20.320 seven three. Paul, put us out of our misery. 0:58:20.000 --> 0:58:24.040 Mate, Sandra Zalavova. 0:58:24.320 --> 0:58:26.960 That'll do. That's her. Well done. You'll never forget it 0:58:26.960 --> 0:58:29.200 ever again, nor will anybody else. That was the one 0:58:29.240 --> 0:58:31.800 we were after. Well done, mate. Hang on, there a 0:58:32.200 --> 0:58:37.680 family pass to Taronga Zoo coming your way. Sandra Zalivova. 0:58:39.440 --> 0:58:41.960 Never heard of it, but that was her. That was her. 0:58:42.080 --> 0:58:46.120 We've had that checked and triple check. That was definitely her. 0:58:46.560 --> 0:58:49.000 It is twenty seven minutes to two. We'll take a 0:58:49.000 --> 0:58:51.560 break when we come back. Real Estate with the people 0:58:51.560 --> 0:58:56.920 from Domains and now. 0:58:56.880 --> 0:59:01.720 For real Estate Show thanks to Domain, Australia's trusted property marketplace. 0:59:02.720 --> 0:59:05.360 Okay, let's do it on a Friday afternoon. We always 0:59:05.360 --> 0:59:08.440 talk real estate because half of the country is focused 0:59:08.440 --> 0:59:10.400 on real estated about this time of the week as 0:59:10.400 --> 0:59:13.160 we head into the auctions on the weekend. So let's 0:59:13.200 --> 0:59:15.840 catch up with the wonderful at the Stalts from Domain. Alice. 0:59:15.880 --> 0:59:19.440 Good afternoon to you, Good afternoon, Michael, great. 0:59:19.200 --> 0:59:20.840 To bear with you, and with you I tell you 0:59:20.920 --> 0:59:23.880 what the market is absolutely taking off. I think we'll 0:59:23.920 --> 0:59:25.600 start with the auction results before we look at a 0:59:25.640 --> 0:59:26.880 property of the week and the rest of it. But 0:59:26.920 --> 0:59:31.160 it was almost well, it was over thirteen hundred auctions 0:59:31.160 --> 0:59:32.440 in Sydney last week right. 0:59:33.360 --> 0:59:35.160 Indeed, I think it's fair to say it was kind 0:59:35.200 --> 0:59:38.600 of steaming, wasn't it. Thirteen hundred and twenty six houses 0:59:38.640 --> 0:59:42.040 went to auction last weekend. Now what's the most intriguing 0:59:42.080 --> 0:59:44.200 part for me is the clearance for it hit sixty 0:59:44.280 --> 0:59:48.240 eight percent. That means, you know, almost three quarters of 0:59:48.280 --> 0:59:51.720 those selling managed to sell last weekend, which is really 0:59:51.800 --> 0:59:55.680 quite reflective of I guess that confidence that the markets 0:59:55.880 --> 0:59:57.640 are increasingly feeling at the moment. 0:59:58.200 --> 0:59:59.760 They are a lot of stock and a lot of 0:59:59.760 --> 1:00:02.800 say okay, so I should say I forgot to do 1:00:02.840 --> 1:00:05.920 this off the top. If you are after a property valuation, 1:00:05.960 --> 1:00:07.480 get in touch with us and we can put you 1:00:07.520 --> 1:00:08.920 in touch with domain and we'll get you up when 1:00:08.920 --> 1:00:12.320 we have time each week. But the figures are estimates only, 1:00:12.480 --> 1:00:14.160 and we've got to emphasize that the estimates are made 1:00:14.200 --> 1:00:16.920 without any first hand inspections of the properties or their interiors. 1:00:16.920 --> 1:00:19.840 If anyone listening wants an appraisal on their home, they 1:00:19.880 --> 1:00:22.600 should obviously make their own independent inquiries as well through 1:00:22.640 --> 1:00:26.080 accredited independent valuers. Now, with that out of the way, 1:00:26.160 --> 1:00:29.520 let's catch up with Gary. Gary's at Jordan's Springs in 1:00:29.560 --> 1:00:34.760 Sydney's West has a very nice property to talk about. Hello, Gary, Hi, Michael, 1:00:34.760 --> 1:00:36.680 how are you. I'm well, mate, I'm very well. Now 1:00:36.720 --> 1:00:39.080 Alice is here from domain. Just just tell all us 1:00:39.080 --> 1:00:41.720 a little about the property, the number of bedrooms, the bathrooms, 1:00:41.760 --> 1:00:43.240 any renovations, that sort of thing. 1:00:45.280 --> 1:00:47.360 Hi, let's how are you hi? 1:00:47.480 --> 1:00:47.720 Gary? 1:00:47.800 --> 1:00:48.240 Really well? 1:00:48.240 --> 1:00:48.680 Thank you. 1:00:49.480 --> 1:00:51.480 I got it like a five hundred almost fifty five 1:00:51.760 --> 1:00:54.760 and forty h Schameter loot and got a four bedroom 1:00:54.840 --> 1:00:58.280 with the two bathroom and the two garage, and so 1:00:58.640 --> 1:01:01.760 I moved in twenty eighteen seventeen age actually, and then 1:01:01.760 --> 1:01:05.480 I put a ten kilow a planel on top. So 1:01:05.640 --> 1:01:10.360 there's the ducted air condition with a ten point one yes, 1:01:10.520 --> 1:01:13.680 and then I put a new fans and all the 1:01:13.720 --> 1:01:16.520 town life and that recently I done that all the 1:01:16.600 --> 1:01:18.120 landscaping as well on the property. 1:01:19.200 --> 1:01:21.800 Okay, so it sounds like you've made some clever improvements 1:01:21.840 --> 1:01:24.520 to the property there. In that case, they're knowing that 1:01:24.720 --> 1:01:26.880 we know how much value those sort of features can 1:01:26.920 --> 1:01:29.760 add and garage just quickly. Are you very far from 1:01:29.760 --> 1:01:31.680 public transport or is it? 1:01:31.720 --> 1:01:32.840 Is it drive to. 1:01:32.800 --> 1:01:33.760 Get to the train station? 1:01:34.560 --> 1:01:36.840 A train station only ten minutes drive and the bus 1:01:36.880 --> 1:01:38.880 stop is just a two couple of minutes. 1:01:38.640 --> 1:01:43.240 Away, okay, okay? And what about school zones in the area, Gary, Like, 1:01:43.280 --> 1:01:45.080 do you know what the school zones are like in 1:01:45.080 --> 1:01:45.480 the area? 1:01:45.880 --> 1:01:50.640 And there, yeah, there you tend like a drive like 1:01:51.240 --> 1:01:53.440 some of the kids like, there's only five maybe five 1:01:53.480 --> 1:01:56.960 minutes walk from my place for the public school, and 1:01:58.000 --> 1:02:00.400 there's another one is coming up, the high the thing 1:02:00.480 --> 1:02:02.760 is what it's called, the high school is coming up 1:02:02.800 --> 1:02:06.400 maybe twenty seventeen, Okay, it was only five five minutes 1:02:06.600 --> 1:02:09.800 before each year, and a lot of others is only 1:02:09.920 --> 1:02:13.240 within kilometers length, Okay. 1:02:13.280 --> 1:02:16.160 So it sounds very it sounds highly desirable. It's got 1:02:16.160 --> 1:02:18.520 all that amenity around it that people are really searching 1:02:18.520 --> 1:02:21.120 for at the moment. So it's not surprising when I'm 1:02:21.120 --> 1:02:23.400 looking at the media and house price in Jordan Springs 1:02:23.400 --> 1:02:25.560 at the moment, it's just over nine hundred and eighty 1:02:25.600 --> 1:02:28.600 eight thousand dollars, Garying that's gone up six point two 1:02:28.600 --> 1:02:31.080 percent annually, and over the past five years it's gone 1:02:31.160 --> 1:02:34.439 up forty percent. So it's pretty obvious you can see 1:02:34.480 --> 1:02:36.720 that people are really wanting to move to those areas 1:02:36.760 --> 1:02:40.000 with those attributes that you just mentioned there. Now, when 1:02:40.000 --> 1:02:42.160 we're looking at the price of your house at the 1:02:42.240 --> 1:02:44.880 moment it's coming in, I'm giving you a range. The 1:02:44.920 --> 1:02:46.800 lowest point of the range is around nine hundred and 1:02:46.800 --> 1:02:49.680 sixty thousand dollars and the highest point goes up to 1:02:49.840 --> 1:02:53.040 just over one point two eight million dollars Garry. So, 1:02:53.080 --> 1:02:55.600 I guess if you're being ultra conservative, you probably bank 1:02:55.760 --> 1:02:58.400 lot put somewhere right down the middle. But I think 1:02:58.440 --> 1:03:00.919 given that you've made those in to the house such 1:03:00.960 --> 1:03:04.000 as the down lights, the solar panels and that, and 1:03:04.040 --> 1:03:06.120 also the landscape, and we know how much they can 1:03:06.160 --> 1:03:07.760 really sort of roop the rewards in a property when 1:03:07.800 --> 1:03:10.520 it comes to selling, you could probably edge towards more 1:03:10.560 --> 1:03:11.640 towards that higher end. 1:03:12.080 --> 1:03:14.120 O good on you, Gary. Interesting. I mean, it's a 1:03:14.160 --> 1:03:16.440 long way from the CBD. You're very close though, to Penrith, 1:03:16.480 --> 1:03:19.920 and I guess Alice says that New Sydney Western Sydney 1:03:19.920 --> 1:03:22.880 Airport gets off the ground, a lot of the tech 1:03:22.960 --> 1:03:27.040 jobs and the business around that air tropolis start to develop. 1:03:27.440 --> 1:03:32.080 The focal point of Sydney per se from an employment 1:03:32.120 --> 1:03:34.600 point of view, can shift, and so being a long 1:03:34.640 --> 1:03:36.840 way from the CBD may not matter as much as 1:03:36.840 --> 1:03:39.640 it did, say in ten years time, as it does 1:03:39.680 --> 1:03:41.200 now it did ten years ago. 1:03:42.320 --> 1:03:44.240 I think that's right, Michael, And a lot of the 1:03:44.240 --> 1:03:46.760 time the opportunity and property comes from people who can 1:03:46.840 --> 1:03:48.880 kind of believe in the future of what the city 1:03:48.920 --> 1:03:52.360 is going to evolve to, and particularly in spots like 1:03:52.440 --> 1:03:54.600 this that people now might think, gosh, it's you know, 1:03:54.600 --> 1:03:56.920 it's an hour and a half on the on public 1:03:56.920 --> 1:03:58.960 transport to get to the city. That's so far. But 1:03:59.000 --> 1:04:01.880 as you're saying that our whole world will eventually change, 1:04:02.000 --> 1:04:05.960 these little infrastructure and these secondary cities a hubs will 1:04:05.960 --> 1:04:09.120 bob up all around. So the greatest city that I 1:04:09.200 --> 1:04:11.720 think will just start thinking about all of this quite differently. 1:04:11.840 --> 1:04:13.720 And I think you can see, like to me, you know, 1:04:13.800 --> 1:04:16.080 forty percent growth over the past five years. There are 1:04:16.120 --> 1:04:19.680 clearly people already migrating there, and I expect that growth 1:04:19.720 --> 1:04:21.680 to continue over the next five to ten years. 1:04:21.560 --> 1:04:24.000 In particular Jordan Springs a nice planned suburb as well. 1:04:24.080 --> 1:04:25.720 Good only Gary, well done, thank you for the call. 1:04:25.760 --> 1:04:27.680 As I said, if you want to have the treatment 1:04:27.680 --> 1:04:29.160 that Gary got, just get in touch with us one 1:04:29.200 --> 1:04:30.720 three one eight seven through go to my part of 1:04:30.720 --> 1:04:32.400 the website, to jib dot com. Just go to my 1:04:32.440 --> 1:04:34.919 part there there's a form you can fill out. We'll 1:04:34.920 --> 1:04:37.200 send all that, all those details to domain Allis, will 1:04:37.200 --> 1:04:38.360 have a look at it, will come up with the 1:04:38.360 --> 1:04:41.440 formula and get you on and we can discuss the property. Now, 1:04:42.200 --> 1:04:45.760 jen Z's many of them still living at the parents' house, 1:04:45.760 --> 1:04:47.480 of course, because they're saving up for their home or 1:04:47.480 --> 1:04:51.360 their apartment and whatever. There's a trend now emerging there 1:04:51.360 --> 1:04:55.520 being referred to some of these as stay vestas. So look, 1:04:55.640 --> 1:04:57.960 I don't know, but I assume that means they're still 1:04:57.960 --> 1:05:01.480 living at home, but there's spending some money investing in 1:05:01.560 --> 1:05:05.360 another home and they've got a tenant helping pay down 1:05:05.440 --> 1:05:08.120 the debt originally, and maybe that's where they'll move into 1:05:08.400 --> 1:05:09.080 in due course. 1:05:10.240 --> 1:05:12.800 That's exactly right, Michael. We've sort of had investors, we've 1:05:12.800 --> 1:05:15.080 had rent vestors, and now this next set of wave 1:05:15.160 --> 1:05:17.720 of that is the stay vest now a lot of 1:05:17.760 --> 1:05:20.760 the time, these are kind of quite strategically minded adult 1:05:20.840 --> 1:05:24.840 children who have worked out that basically they can buy 1:05:25.080 --> 1:05:27.320 a property, get their foot on the ladder, perhaps a 1:05:27.360 --> 1:05:29.560 bit earlier than what they might would have originally thought 1:05:29.560 --> 1:05:33.040 they would have had to, and then hopefully for them 1:05:33.240 --> 1:05:36.320 rent out that property and then building up that wealth 1:05:36.320 --> 1:05:39.320 while still living in the family home. So I hope 1:05:39.320 --> 1:05:41.360 they're contributing to that family home and they're not taking 1:05:41.360 --> 1:05:43.480 a free ride from mum and dad. But what I 1:05:43.560 --> 1:05:46.040 do like about this, Michael, is that I think it's 1:05:46.080 --> 1:05:48.880 another way of parents being able to help and support 1:05:48.920 --> 1:05:51.240 their children. Because of course we've talked a little bit 1:05:51.240 --> 1:05:53.760 before about the bank of Mum and Dad, and you 1:05:53.800 --> 1:05:55.960 know how helpful it is to many people, and it goes 1:05:56.000 --> 1:05:59.400 without saying is incredibly helpful. However, we know there are 1:05:59.440 --> 1:06:02.640 many people who just simply don't have access to help 1:06:02.680 --> 1:06:05.919 the children out, despite wanting to do everything they can. 1:06:06.360 --> 1:06:09.320 But I think allowing them to stay at home, potentially 1:06:09.360 --> 1:06:12.200 giving them that sort of guidance and assistant sort of 1:06:12.560 --> 1:06:15.160 you know, through education and that, and supporting their decisions 1:06:15.200 --> 1:06:18.240 in doing that if this works for them, can actually 1:06:18.280 --> 1:06:20.400 be a way to get into the market. As you said, 1:06:20.400 --> 1:06:22.440 they could move in there eventually, or they could end 1:06:22.520 --> 1:06:24.360 up buying another property. There was an article in the 1:06:24.440 --> 1:06:27.200 Financial Review and the people who sort of bought multiple 1:06:27.240 --> 1:06:30.920 property investors while still living at home and enjoy mum 1:06:30.920 --> 1:06:34.760 and Dad's company. But also I think, you know, hopefully 1:06:34.920 --> 1:06:37.280 hopefully giving them more confidence in the future when it 1:06:37.280 --> 1:06:38.240 comes to home ownership. 1:06:38.480 --> 1:06:40.840 So I guess there would be a number of people 1:06:40.840 --> 1:06:42.920 listening saying, look, I'm just not in a position to 1:06:42.960 --> 1:06:45.680 be the bank of mum and dad like other relatives 1:06:45.760 --> 1:06:48.280 or other neighbors or indeed other people we know are. 1:06:48.880 --> 1:06:50.960 But we want to really help our young ones get 1:06:50.960 --> 1:06:53.200 that foot on the property ladder because it's often the 1:06:53.240 --> 1:06:57.280 ticket to wealth. So maybe instead of coughing up one 1:06:57.360 --> 1:07:00.560 hundred and fifty thousand or whatever people do, we can 1:07:01.360 --> 1:07:03.600 let them stay at home and maybe it's rent free 1:07:03.680 --> 1:07:06.760 or whatever goes on. But that's our way of being 1:07:06.880 --> 1:07:08.880 the bank of mum and dad. It's not with a 1:07:08.880 --> 1:07:10.680 cash injection, but it's in kind. 1:07:12.600 --> 1:07:14.760 That's exactly what I mean. And I think it's also 1:07:14.960 --> 1:07:17.840 more responsible for parents to do that, because we do 1:07:17.920 --> 1:07:20.720 hear of situations where some parents really go to the 1:07:20.800 --> 1:07:23.480 end of the earth to give their childs a cash deposit, 1:07:23.600 --> 1:07:26.360 to help them get a cash deposit. Sometimes they look 1:07:26.360 --> 1:07:28.960 at even selling their own asset. Now the problem with 1:07:29.000 --> 1:07:31.480 that is, of course the child may be out to 1:07:31.520 --> 1:07:33.680 them buy their own place, but what happens to the parents, 1:07:34.120 --> 1:07:36.360 you know? So I think you always have to be 1:07:36.400 --> 1:07:38.880 thinking about that next step, that next move. So you 1:07:38.920 --> 1:07:40.720 don't want to cut off your nose despite your face. 1:07:40.760 --> 1:07:43.000 So I just think doing this is a way to, 1:07:43.120 --> 1:07:46.240 I guess, think differently about supporting your child without having 1:07:46.280 --> 1:07:48.880 to try to rustle up the funds of a huge sum. 1:07:49.120 --> 1:07:51.560 And on your note about paying board or something, Michael, 1:07:51.680 --> 1:07:53.960 sometimes some people do this and they will charge a 1:07:53.960 --> 1:07:56.120 nominal amount of board for their child to stay living 1:07:56.200 --> 1:07:58.560 at home while they're supporting them to invest in this 1:07:58.600 --> 1:08:01.920 property that the child's obviously the mortgage themselves. And then 1:08:02.000 --> 1:08:04.360 sometimes that parent just sort of siphons that money away 1:08:04.360 --> 1:08:06.200 and then perhaps they may give them that money for 1:08:06.200 --> 1:08:08.160 a rainy day in the future when that child eventually 1:08:08.240 --> 1:08:10.400 moves out and says, by the way, he's a little 1:08:10.560 --> 1:08:12.200 a little bit of something to help you spruce up 1:08:12.240 --> 1:08:14.240 your house or something. So I just like the idea 1:08:14.280 --> 1:08:17.439 of the optionality around it. But yeah, it's an interesting thing, 1:08:17.479 --> 1:08:17.920 isn't it. 1:08:17.920 --> 1:08:19.360 It is a lot of people are doing it their 1:08:19.400 --> 1:08:21.240 own way. It is thirteen to two by the way, 1:08:21.240 --> 1:08:22.840 one three one eight seven three. We'll come back to 1:08:22.840 --> 1:08:24.840 Alis in just a moment. Just before we do, Mark 1:08:24.880 --> 1:08:28.200 sent me a text here saying regarding the traffic southbound 1:08:28.200 --> 1:08:30.840 on the M one the Big Dipper three lanes, absolutely 1:08:30.920 --> 1:08:33.000 choc a block, he says, traveling in about forty kilometers 1:08:33.000 --> 1:08:35.559 and our Sydney bound Mark, thank you for that. We'll 1:08:35.680 --> 1:08:37.639 catch up with our traffic team, Steve, etc. And see 1:08:37.640 --> 1:08:40.120 what's happening there. But southbound end one the Big Dipper 1:08:40.280 --> 1:08:43.360 three lanes, according to Mark, choca block about forty k's 1:08:43.360 --> 1:08:46.120 an hour if you're lucky heading towards Sydney. We'll take 1:08:46.120 --> 1:08:48.400 a break more real estate after this. We're talking real 1:08:48.479 --> 1:08:50.360 estate because it's a Friday afternoon with the one full 1:08:50.360 --> 1:08:53.320 Alis stolts from Domain Alice. Let's have a look at 1:08:53.360 --> 1:08:54.920 some of the bargains of the week. We need it. 1:08:54.960 --> 1:08:57.439 We need a bargain or two, and they are out there. 1:08:57.479 --> 1:09:00.320 Despite the incredible auction results in the interest rate cuts 1:09:00.320 --> 1:09:02.080 and everything. I think the first one we should look 1:09:02.080 --> 1:09:03.880 at this too this week actually is and they're Boorkham 1:09:03.920 --> 1:09:13.479 Hills desirable suburbs. So what have we got here? Sorry, 1:09:13.560 --> 1:09:16.120 just start again because I hit the wrong button far away. Sorry. 1:09:16.840 --> 1:09:19.280 There was a sale Michael last weeknd in Walkham Hills 1:09:19.320 --> 1:09:22.080 of this one bedroom flat that's sold at auction. Now 1:09:22.080 --> 1:09:25.120 it's sold for four hundred and forty thousand dollars. But 1:09:25.160 --> 1:09:27.479 what I love about this apartment is it was actually 1:09:27.520 --> 1:09:30.840 on eighty four square meters. Now, if people aren't kind 1:09:30.880 --> 1:09:33.280 of always quite sure when I talk about square metage, 1:09:33.320 --> 1:09:35.599 it's actually a really useful thing to get your head 1:09:35.600 --> 1:09:38.080 around when it comes to understanding room sizes and that. 1:09:38.120 --> 1:09:40.960 But in my mind, one bedroom, you know, often that 1:09:41.000 --> 1:09:43.120 could be a living space, dining space in kitchen, and 1:09:43.280 --> 1:09:46.280 often can be squished into forty five square meters for example. 1:09:46.560 --> 1:09:50.040 So eighty four square meters is actually very generous in size. 1:09:50.320 --> 1:09:52.479 And obviously this is a terrific era. It's not far 1:09:52.520 --> 1:09:56.000 from the city. This comes with a parking spot, a bathroom, 1:09:56.040 --> 1:09:58.559 and it's got lovely it's kind of quite light field, 1:09:58.600 --> 1:10:00.000 and it's got a lovely fuel to that, I think 1:10:00.080 --> 1:10:02.240 with its own balcony, So I think It's a really 1:10:02.240 --> 1:10:04.360 good example of what you can get, particularly if you 1:10:04.400 --> 1:10:06.960 wanted to look at one bedroom apartments. Often people are 1:10:06.960 --> 1:10:09.400 always searching for two bedrooms to get a bargain there. 1:10:09.400 --> 1:10:11.680 But if you can sort of get a more oversized 1:10:11.720 --> 1:10:14.639 one bedroom, that could be a clever way of allowing 1:10:14.640 --> 1:10:16.439 yourself to have a little bit more space. If you 1:10:16.479 --> 1:10:18.719 can get away with just having one separate bedroom, that's. 1:10:18.600 --> 1:10:20.040 A good point. That's not bad, is it? The eighty 1:10:20.080 --> 1:10:23.080 four square? Okay? Then number two here on the list too, 1:10:23.400 --> 1:10:25.280 not just one, but two bargains. It's like that guy 1:10:25.320 --> 1:10:28.480 that's giving away. But wait, there's more State nights Lakember. 1:10:29.320 --> 1:10:33.599 Now three hundred and fifty thousand was all you needed 1:10:33.600 --> 1:10:35.160 to get a one bed, one bath. 1:10:36.200 --> 1:10:38.280 Indeed, it sounds too good to be true, but it 1:10:38.360 --> 1:10:40.639 actually happened. This is a great thing about property when 1:10:40.640 --> 1:10:43.400 you look at the evidence out there, it's actually quite compelling, 1:10:43.439 --> 1:10:45.719 isn't it. This has got a one bed, one bath flat, 1:10:45.800 --> 1:10:48.000 no parking spot, but it does have open plan living 1:10:48.000 --> 1:10:52.240 and dining area all tied throughout a generous sized master bedroom. 1:10:52.280 --> 1:10:54.439 I think it's fair to say, and it's in the Kember, 1:10:54.520 --> 1:10:57.200 and I think it's another interesting way of thinking, if 1:10:57.240 --> 1:10:59.880 I really wanted something, I could always live there for 1:11:00.080 --> 1:11:02.080 a period of time and then potentially rented out in 1:11:02.080 --> 1:11:04.479 the future, you know, in five years time or something, 1:11:04.520 --> 1:11:07.160 and then upgrade to something else, or you know, perhaps 1:11:07.160 --> 1:11:09.519 live there forever and reconfigure it to suit your needs. 1:11:09.560 --> 1:11:11.840 But I think it's another really interesting example of what 1:11:11.880 --> 1:11:14.160 you can get if you're willing to make compromise in 1:11:14.200 --> 1:11:17.040 that location. Obviously the Chemist that a little bit further out, 1:11:17.840 --> 1:11:19.000 but an interesting result. 1:11:19.040 --> 1:11:22.200 Nonetheless, Michael, it is just quickly before you go to 1:11:22.560 --> 1:11:24.360 the word interesting. It is overused. But there are some 1:11:24.400 --> 1:11:26.519 interesting little properties popping up here or there. Some of 1:11:26.520 --> 1:11:28.519 them are old utility sites. Now that I think this 1:11:28.680 --> 1:11:30.679 was a reformer. It's either for sale or it's sold 1:11:30.680 --> 1:11:33.479 a former osgrid site, is that right, Yeah. 1:11:33.360 --> 1:11:35.160 No, it's the sale at the moment. Actually, now this 1:11:35.200 --> 1:11:37.360 is on nearly two hundred fifty square meters is the 1:11:37.439 --> 1:11:40.200 land size. It's been sold as one bedroom, one bath, 1:11:40.280 --> 1:11:42.680 But I think, of course this is literally, guys, a 1:11:42.840 --> 1:11:45.320 utility station, so it's really kind of kind of like 1:11:45.320 --> 1:11:48.280 a warehouse. Apparently there's a bit of interest in people 1:11:48.320 --> 1:11:51.439 who love that idea of developing a heritage site or something. 1:11:51.560 --> 1:11:53.880 Obviously also developers will look at it, but it isn't 1:11:53.960 --> 1:11:56.920 extraordinary to think that a site that was so sort 1:11:56.960 --> 1:12:00.479 of functional, practical and incredibly important is now being sold 1:12:00.479 --> 1:12:03.360 potentially to be converted into something else or have its 1:12:03.360 --> 1:12:04.920 next iteration or whatever. 1:12:04.960 --> 1:12:08.400 That it's interesting. This isn't the one, but near me, well, 1:12:08.439 --> 1:12:10.280 actually maybe this is the one, but near me there 1:12:10.360 --> 1:12:14.840 was an old electrical board two story building and that 1:12:15.040 --> 1:12:17.040 was recently sold. I don't know if they're going to 1:12:17.080 --> 1:12:19.880 convert inside to a number of apartments or it was 1:12:19.880 --> 1:12:24.559 one of those sort of big cavernous gray concrete sprayed efforts. 1:12:24.600 --> 1:12:28.160 But you know, you watch those shows, the real estate 1:12:28.200 --> 1:12:31.640 shows and the housing shows, Grand designs, that sort of 1:12:31.640 --> 1:12:33.640 thing in the UK. I mean often these are the 1:12:33.680 --> 1:12:36.760 sort of places where water towels and the creative people 1:12:36.840 --> 1:12:39.000 get in there and they make it work. 1:12:39.920 --> 1:12:42.400 People can do such incredibly clever things. But I think, 1:12:42.400 --> 1:12:44.320 you know, if you one of those visionary people who 1:12:44.360 --> 1:12:46.679 think I'm not going to feel inhibited by the fact, 1:12:46.720 --> 1:12:49.439 you know the windows are quite high up, or you know, 1:12:49.479 --> 1:12:51.680 they've often got very sort of odd things to them, 1:12:51.680 --> 1:12:54.800 and particularly these buildings are incredibly beautifully made so there 1:12:54.840 --> 1:12:57.559 will be heritage on them, so you are constricted in 1:12:57.600 --> 1:12:59.240 what you can do with them. To the outside will 1:12:59.240 --> 1:13:02.920 have to usually as it is, I forgot to. I 1:13:02.960 --> 1:13:04.720 bury the lead on that one, mother, Michael. This one 1:13:04.760 --> 1:13:07.280 I'm talking about though, is in Newtown, so a really 1:13:07.280 --> 1:13:09.679 interesting example of being in the inner west of Sydney, 1:13:09.720 --> 1:13:13.720 a really clearly desirable location on decent landslides of that 1:13:13.760 --> 1:13:16.479 area for around two million dollars. But I cannot imagine 1:13:16.479 --> 1:13:18.559 what the fit out would cost to reconfigure it and 1:13:18.600 --> 1:13:20.439 to bring it into a residential home. I think it'd 1:13:20.479 --> 1:13:21.880 be pretty substantial. On that one. 1:13:21.920 --> 1:13:24.360 I think I hope your electricity was guaranteed at least. 1:13:24.640 --> 1:13:26.800 Good on you. Thank you, Alice. We'll catch up same 1:13:26.800 --> 1:13:27.479 time next week. 1:13:28.280 --> 1:13:28.920 Thank you, Michael. 1:13:29.040 --> 1:13:31.559 Well the best, the wonderful Alie Stelts there from domain 1:13:31.680 --> 1:13:34.040 are one, three, one, eight, seven three more after the break, 1:13:34.080 --> 1:13:36.080 all right, we've got the two o'clock news just around 1:13:36.080 --> 1:13:37.920 the corner. We're doing Friday food after that, and I'll 1:13:37.920 --> 1:13:40.040 catch up with Barry Jones, the co founder of Missus 1:13:40.120 --> 1:13:42.679 Jones the Baker. They do wonderful step up Northern Beaches 1:13:42.680 --> 1:13:45.479 Way and elsewhere, I think, but bread is the topic, 1:13:45.520 --> 1:13:47.799 and we'll see if we've got any home bread makers 1:13:47.840 --> 1:13:51.120 out there that are budding bakers that know what they're doing. 1:13:51.360 --> 1:13:53.600 Some people do make wonderful homemade bread. Not me. I 1:13:53.640 --> 1:13:56.280 tried a few times, failed every time, gave up. I'll 1:13:56.280 --> 1:13:58.320 also ask you in the final hour about going to 1:13:58.360 --> 1:14:00.639 the movies. I mean, we do the entertain and segment 1:14:00.680 --> 1:14:04.280 with the wonderful Anta Corda every Thursday. In fact, the 1:14:05.640 --> 1:14:09.000 program that the program that she was the movie she 1:14:09.160 --> 1:14:12.680 was reviewing, the Midday Movies just finished. It was as 1:14:12.720 --> 1:14:15.040 bad as she said it was going to be. But Imax, 1:14:15.080 --> 1:14:16.920 I see, you're going to grow their number of screens 1:14:16.920 --> 1:14:20.240 in Australia from four to nine by twenty twenty seven. 1:14:20.280 --> 1:14:22.479 They're banking on the idea that if we do go 1:14:22.560 --> 1:14:24.360 to the cinemas anymore, we're going to be going for 1:14:24.439 --> 1:14:27.840 bigger screens and more lifelike imagery and sound than we 1:14:27.880 --> 1:14:30.960 could get at home. Interesting idea, sort of a niche, 1:14:30.960 --> 1:14:33.519 But I wonder how many people go to the movies anymore. 1:14:33.760 --> 1:14:40.480 It's now onto GB and network stations. Back to afternoons 1:14:40.520 --> 1:14:42.360 with Michael McLaren. 1:14:43.880 --> 1:14:46.920 All right into the final hours, getting a little gray 1:14:47.000 --> 1:14:49.080 and gloomy out there. I just ran up the hall 1:14:49.120 --> 1:14:50.639 and grab a cup of tea. Looked out the window. 1:14:50.640 --> 1:14:53.320 I tho, ooh, okay, so the blue sky of this 1:14:53.360 --> 1:14:55.439 morning is gone. I don't know if we're going to 1:14:55.439 --> 1:14:57.599 get any rain or not. I don't think it's forecast 1:14:57.640 --> 1:15:00.200 or anywhere. We'll see one three, one eight seven the three. 1:15:00.280 --> 1:15:02.479 Not much we can do about it, mind you. With 1:15:02.600 --> 1:15:04.920 that said, Jacob will find the story for me, because 1:15:04.920 --> 1:15:07.480 I don't think I have it here. But in Louisiana, 1:15:07.520 --> 1:15:12.720 if I'm not mistaken, they think that they can ban 1:15:13.000 --> 1:15:17.320 something that actually doesn't exist. They're just trying to get 1:15:17.320 --> 1:15:21.439 your hit around that. The legislators in Louisiana's state Congress 1:15:21.520 --> 1:15:24.839 or parliament or whatever it's called, I believe, have already 1:15:24.880 --> 1:15:30.320 passed the legislation. I'll have this clarified to ban keem trails. Now, 1:15:30.360 --> 1:15:33.519 as we know, keem trails do not exist. So when 1:15:33.560 --> 1:15:37.240 we know I use the royal pronoun, there some people 1:15:37.320 --> 1:15:42.040 listening do believe it. You write to me, somebody consistently 1:15:42.080 --> 1:15:44.320 writes to me with this weather saying you know this 1:15:44.400 --> 1:15:47.639 is all geo engineer. Well no, I don't. Why would 1:15:47.760 --> 1:15:51.400 you want to continue to have rain over Sydney if 1:15:51.400 --> 1:15:54.040 you could geo engineer the weather when the drought is 1:15:54.080 --> 1:15:58.360 in South Australia and Victoria. Okay, so we got that. 1:15:58.400 --> 1:16:02.599 But the people of Louisiana, the legislators, the wise burghers 1:16:02.640 --> 1:16:06.519 of that part of the South, believe that keem trails 1:16:07.200 --> 1:16:14.880 chemical fog off the back of jetliners deliberately being flown 1:16:15.000 --> 1:16:18.200 in criss cross patterns to then have all of this 1:16:18.400 --> 1:16:21.479 fall on a population and sort of subdue them into 1:16:21.479 --> 1:16:24.640 a big stupor. They believe this is real, and so 1:16:24.720 --> 1:16:28.400 they've pushed a bill through the state House of Representatives, 1:16:28.439 --> 1:16:31.680 according to the New York Post, to ban the chemtrails 1:16:33.120 --> 1:16:37.679 that's going to be taking. That takes quite some doing 1:16:37.920 --> 1:16:40.760 to ban something that isn't real. But anyway, maybe they're 1:16:40.760 --> 1:16:42.880 just getting ahead of the curve. For those that do 1:16:43.040 --> 1:16:47.960 believe in keem trails, you will be buying property post 1:16:48.000 --> 1:16:51.240 haste within somewhere in Louisiana, i'd imagine, to escape their 1:16:51.600 --> 1:16:56.120 knoxis and toxic fog. Right one three, one eight seven 1:16:56.240 --> 1:17:05.800 three the open line number. Okay, at ten minutes past two, 1:17:05.840 --> 1:17:07.640 we'll get to Friday food in just a moment. I 1:17:07.680 --> 1:17:09.200 wanted to ask you alson. I will do this in 1:17:09.240 --> 1:17:11.439 just a secon about the movies. Just keep this in mind. 1:17:11.520 --> 1:17:13.880 Have a think, when was the last time you went 1:17:13.960 --> 1:17:16.840 to a cinema. When was the last time you went 1:17:17.160 --> 1:17:20.640 to a cinema to watch a movie? I think to 1:17:20.720 --> 1:17:24.599 a normal cinema. Maybe it was pre COVID. I think 1:17:24.680 --> 1:17:26.719 when my wife and I last went to see a movie. 1:17:27.080 --> 1:17:28.800 Now we've got a little one not so easy to 1:17:28.800 --> 1:17:31.000 do and all the rest of it. But the last 1:17:31.040 --> 1:17:33.600 time I went to an imax, I remember, I was 1:17:33.640 --> 1:17:36.400 back in the school days. And I don't know if 1:17:36.439 --> 1:17:38.640 it was the big screen the edge up at Katoomber 1:17:38.720 --> 1:17:40.519 or whether we went down to the Imax here of 1:17:40.600 --> 1:17:43.000 Darling Harbor, but they were warning people. I think it 1:17:43.040 --> 1:17:44.840 was up at the edge warning some of the kids. 1:17:45.439 --> 1:17:47.720 Now listen, you might feel a bit queasy and sick here, 1:17:47.720 --> 1:17:51.160 because I think we were watching some big video movie 1:17:51.160 --> 1:17:52.880 where you went over a water fall. It was all 1:17:52.920 --> 1:17:54.840 about the Blue mountains. You might have seen the same one, 1:17:54.840 --> 1:17:57.080 and so you know, those that sort of tumble in 1:17:57.120 --> 1:17:59.560 the roller coasters probably felt a bit the same, and 1:18:00.040 --> 1:18:01.799 they were warned, Look, if you feel a bit queasy, 1:18:01.880 --> 1:18:03.400 you know, put your hand up, will take you out there, 1:18:03.680 --> 1:18:06.240 that sort of thing. But the last time you went 1:18:06.280 --> 1:18:08.720 to a cinema can you even can you remember? Are 1:18:08.720 --> 1:18:11.360 you a regular cinema goer? I mean, we do have 1:18:11.360 --> 1:18:13.160 people that go on the Tuesdays because it's the cheap 1:18:13.160 --> 1:18:15.840 par ticket or whatever it is. But I suspect I 1:18:15.840 --> 1:18:17.400 don't have the numbers in front of me. Maybe we 1:18:17.400 --> 1:18:20.680 can look this up, but I suspect per head of population, 1:18:21.040 --> 1:18:23.680 the number of movie goers is down. That would be 1:18:23.760 --> 1:18:27.479 my guess. You get the blockbusters and so people turn 1:18:27.600 --> 1:18:31.280 up for those, but aside from that, I just don't 1:18:31.360 --> 1:18:33.559 know how many people are going through the turnstiles week 1:18:33.600 --> 1:18:36.080 in and week out. So IMAX say, look, we reckon. 1:18:36.120 --> 1:18:38.280 We can do something about this because we've got these 1:18:38.320 --> 1:18:41.160 really big screens and huge sound systems, and this is 1:18:41.160 --> 1:18:43.880 something that you can't replicate at home with the streaming services. Right, 1:18:44.600 --> 1:18:47.280 So they're growing their number of screens out here from 1:18:47.280 --> 1:18:48.800 four to nine and they're going to do it by 1:18:48.800 --> 1:18:51.760 twenty twenty seven. I have nine screens, And as the 1:18:51.760 --> 1:18:53.679 thin reviewer says, this is a bit that those still 1:18:53.760 --> 1:18:57.639 venturing out to a cinema will want bigger screens, more 1:18:57.640 --> 1:19:01.080 lifelike imagery and sound than they can get at home. Okay, 1:19:01.120 --> 1:19:04.439 now that's a logical investment. I think, I reckon that'll go. Okay, 1:19:05.640 --> 1:19:08.000 so let's see what happens. But when was the last 1:19:08.040 --> 1:19:12.360 time you actually went to the movies? For me, I 1:19:12.360 --> 1:19:14.439 couldn't even tell. It's probably a foreign film. I think 1:19:14.439 --> 1:19:16.080 we went to see one of these, you know, German 1:19:16.120 --> 1:19:18.840 film festivals or French film festival. It was perfectly good. 1:19:18.840 --> 1:19:21.120 It was nice. Maybe it was the latest Bond of 1:19:21.320 --> 1:19:24.040 X years ago, maybe the one before that. Actually I 1:19:24.240 --> 1:19:27.800 can't really remember, but it was that long ago, and 1:19:27.880 --> 1:19:30.640 I suspect a lot of people are probably in the 1:19:30.680 --> 1:19:34.439 same category as me. It'll be let me say, it'd 1:19:34.439 --> 1:19:36.000 be very sad to see a lot of the cinemas 1:19:36.040 --> 1:19:39.880 go out backward. But I guess having said that, if 1:19:39.880 --> 1:19:42.280 people like me don't go, we'll wear the problem. One 1:19:42.320 --> 1:19:53.479 three one eight seven three. 1:19:52.120 --> 1:19:54.639 Now one afternoons Friday food. 1:19:55.080 --> 1:19:57.679 Okay, well, the topic today Friday food at twelve past 1:19:57.680 --> 1:20:00.400 two is the wonderful world of breaded is can considered 1:20:00.400 --> 1:20:03.280 a staple of life. Some of the dietitians might want 1:20:03.280 --> 1:20:05.280 to quabble over that one, but anyway, we all have 1:20:05.360 --> 1:20:08.120 our daily bread, and it has come a long way 1:20:08.160 --> 1:20:12.360 from the first iterations eleven so thousand years ago according 1:20:12.400 --> 1:20:15.559 to the archaeologists. In modern lives it's been the white 1:20:15.640 --> 1:20:18.479 or the brown bread sliced wrapped up, placed in the 1:20:18.520 --> 1:20:21.760 first ale of the supermarket. But in the last well, 1:20:21.920 --> 1:20:23.479 I was going to say decade, maybe the last two 1:20:23.479 --> 1:20:26.440 decades or so, bread has sort of had a renaissance. 1:20:26.479 --> 1:20:31.040 It's evolved for the everyday Australian, particularly with the arrival 1:20:31.080 --> 1:20:34.479 of sourdough that has really become a popular thing. And 1:20:34.520 --> 1:20:36.280 now even when you go to Col's, you know, you 1:20:36.360 --> 1:20:40.280 get the whatever type of French bread by Lauent, whoever 1:20:40.320 --> 1:20:42.479 he is. And so the whole thing is becoming a 1:20:42.479 --> 1:20:46.280 little bit posh. Nothing wrong with the old sausage sandwich 1:20:46.320 --> 1:20:49.000 in the white sliced bread. But I think people don't 1:20:49.040 --> 1:20:52.759 mind investing a few extra dollars in a good quality 1:20:52.840 --> 1:20:55.160 laf of bread. But what makes a good quality lay 1:20:55.200 --> 1:20:59.519 for bread? What's the secret to baking great bread? Even 1:20:59.560 --> 1:21:01.360 at home? What are the best of the best in 1:21:01.400 --> 1:21:04.800 the baking will do to get that fantastic crust and 1:21:04.800 --> 1:21:07.760 that fluffy center and all the rest, and of course 1:21:07.800 --> 1:21:10.519 the smell, oh the smell of fresh bake bread is 1:21:11.000 --> 1:21:14.400 really one of the best smells ever created. Well, speaking 1:21:14.400 --> 1:21:15.600 of the best of the best, I've got one on 1:21:15.600 --> 1:21:18.800 the line with me. His name is Barry Jones, one 1:21:18.840 --> 1:21:20.920 half not the former politician, but one half of the 1:21:20.960 --> 1:21:24.160 Missus Jones, the baker, which has a number of cafes 1:21:24.160 --> 1:21:26.320 in Sydney's northern beaches and the North Shore. If you're 1:21:26.360 --> 1:21:29.439 up that way, chances are you frequent them rather frequently. 1:21:29.439 --> 1:21:31.479 And Barry's with me on the line. Barry, thank you 1:21:31.479 --> 1:21:32.000 for your time. 1:21:32.960 --> 1:21:34.280 Thanks very much for inviting me in. 1:21:34.640 --> 1:21:36.840 It's a wonderful story yours. I mean you were born 1:21:36.880 --> 1:21:38.640 above the bakery in North Wales, so I guess it 1:21:38.680 --> 1:21:39.240 was meant to be. 1:21:39.280 --> 1:21:42.160 Right, I was. I was a had no choice me. 1:21:42.960 --> 1:21:45.880 My bedroom window was next door to extraction fans every 1:21:45.880 --> 1:21:48.040 morn in their weaker I had smell bread in the padroom, 1:21:48.520 --> 1:21:50.280 so it was no choice. 1:21:50.680 --> 1:21:52.639 Bred's you know, I said, It's a staple of life, 1:21:52.680 --> 1:21:54.679 bread and water. It's the sort of the old prison 1:21:54.720 --> 1:21:57.439 died and everyone relies on it. But you can have 1:21:57.520 --> 1:21:59.360 really bad bread and they have really good bread. So 1:22:00.200 --> 1:22:02.200 what's dare I say? The weight from the chaff do you, 1:22:02.240 --> 1:22:03.440 how do you separate. 1:22:03.680 --> 1:22:05.560 Well, I mean depends what you want. I mean we 1:22:05.840 --> 1:22:08.240 get a lot of older people want that they will 1:22:08.320 --> 1:22:12.040 water additional softer bread, but the young people want the 1:22:12.120 --> 1:22:16.200 sour dough because they wanted that digestion. Helps the digestion 1:22:16.320 --> 1:22:19.760 and also, yeah, it just creates. It takes a lot 1:22:19.760 --> 1:22:22.960 of problems away from digesting the flower we have here 1:22:22.960 --> 1:22:26.240 in Australia. So the long fermentation breaks down the blue 1:22:26.280 --> 1:22:29.559 and gives a better flavor, and that's what people want 1:22:29.640 --> 1:22:30.120 these days. 1:22:30.560 --> 1:22:32.400 Yeah, I look at the sour dough certainly has a 1:22:32.520 --> 1:22:35.920 unique flavor. Hence the sour and the sour doname. There 1:22:35.960 --> 1:22:40.479 is that slightly vinegary sour undertoned to it. I don't like. 1:22:40.600 --> 1:22:42.320 I don't know the whole story, my guess as it 1:22:42.360 --> 1:22:45.720 came out of Canada or California or something I think 1:22:45.760 --> 1:22:47.760 originally and then took the world by storm. Is that 1:22:47.760 --> 1:22:48.479 your understanding. 1:22:49.880 --> 1:22:52.639 I was always told Germany it was the German thing 1:22:52.640 --> 1:22:56.639 where left the loaf on the side in the kitchen 1:22:56.680 --> 1:22:59.600 and they realized that it started to rise and it 1:22:59.720 --> 1:23:02.400 was some natural yeast in the air. I was trained 1:23:02.400 --> 1:23:06.160 in San Francisco, California, and it's very popular are due 1:23:06.160 --> 1:23:09.120 to the temperature being realistically around about twenty four degrees 1:23:09.160 --> 1:23:11.439 more year round, and that's what makes a good salad 1:23:11.560 --> 1:23:14.519 or loath, this stability of temperature, and then the growth 1:23:14.600 --> 1:23:17.479 is not too fast and not too slow, and that 1:23:17.560 --> 1:23:21.960 then then produces the sour the acidic flavors. We use 1:23:21.960 --> 1:23:24.080 a pH meetia now a very modern way of doing it, 1:23:24.400 --> 1:23:27.360 So we want the pH to be about four four 1:23:27.400 --> 1:23:30.880 point one four point two in the finished slof. That's 1:23:30.880 --> 1:23:33.840 when you get a nice flavor, not too sour. In 1:23:33.880 --> 1:23:38.800 California they have a very very slow starter and they 1:23:38.840 --> 1:23:41.400 have a very acidic so obviously it takes longer to 1:23:41.479 --> 1:23:43.599 rise and then we get more acidic in it, which 1:23:43.720 --> 1:23:47.880 I don't think would be very popular in Australia, but yeah, 1:23:48.520 --> 1:23:49.519 that's the way we do it. 1:23:49.640 --> 1:23:51.719 Okay, let's talk about some of the basics of bread 1:23:51.720 --> 1:23:54.439 and i'd imagine it does vary between the different recipes. 1:23:54.439 --> 1:23:56.200 If you've got a fruit life for your salad, where 1:23:56.240 --> 1:23:58.000 you just a standard wide or whatever, there's all sorts 1:23:58.000 --> 1:24:01.040 of different ingredients in different quantities. But so the nuts 1:24:01.040 --> 1:24:04.080 and the bolts you mentioned flower earlier, I guess like 1:24:04.120 --> 1:24:07.320 oils and oils flowers, ein flowers. Yeah, you go to 1:24:07.320 --> 1:24:11.320 a European supermarket, you get all these different types of flower. 1:24:11.479 --> 1:24:13.479 You go to our supermarkets you tend to get self 1:24:13.560 --> 1:24:15.840 rising a plain. That's about it. 1:24:15.439 --> 1:24:19.840 So definitely, definitely, And I think Australian breds come a 1:24:19.840 --> 1:24:22.360 long long way. And when I go to Europe now, 1:24:23.439 --> 1:24:25.880 I think Australian breds in line with the world on. 1:24:25.960 --> 1:24:29.040 So it's it's I think people have come and we're 1:24:29.040 --> 1:24:31.439 not stuck with tradition here. So we've got people like 1:24:31.439 --> 1:24:34.559 myself going to San Francisco, going to Germany and Europe 1:24:34.600 --> 1:24:37.360 to train. And the great thing is Australians have taken 1:24:37.400 --> 1:24:39.639 it on and that's why you see it so much. 1:24:39.880 --> 1:24:42.280 They want it now and they demand it, and the 1:24:42.320 --> 1:24:46.240 flower companies in Australia have been able to copy the 1:24:46.680 --> 1:24:50.639 types of flowers that we get in Europe and bring 1:24:50.680 --> 1:24:54.400 it here. So it's really move forward. I think the 1:24:54.439 --> 1:24:58.320 whole Australian cookery has moved forward so much since I've 1:24:58.360 --> 1:25:01.920 been here twenty eight years, and now we're among the 1:25:01.920 --> 1:25:04.240 best in the world of what we do. And people 1:25:04.240 --> 1:25:05.920 don't realize that until they go to you. They come 1:25:05.960 --> 1:25:07.960 back and they say to me, God, Barry, I didn't 1:25:07.960 --> 1:25:10.000 realize that. You know, I got better, better in Australia 1:25:10.000 --> 1:25:11.439 and I got Europe. It's true. 1:25:11.720 --> 1:25:14.200 Well, we are blessed and until your travel, maybe we 1:25:14.200 --> 1:25:16.519 don't realize. But again, I'm going to be piled with 1:25:16.520 --> 1:25:19.120 tomatoes here from the Italians. But I often find the 1:25:19.160 --> 1:25:20.840 Italian food is better than what you get in a 1:25:20.840 --> 1:25:22.840 lot of places in Italy. That's not to say if 1:25:22.840 --> 1:25:24.799 you go to the good places, it's a different story. 1:25:24.800 --> 1:25:28.479 But stock standard, pound for pound, local tratoria, I think, yeah, 1:25:28.479 --> 1:25:30.240 because the ingredients here we do pretty well. 1:25:30.280 --> 1:25:33.680 I think our sensational I think people don't. People go 1:25:33.760 --> 1:25:36.000 to Europe and they get, you know, the cebold fashioned 1:25:36.000 --> 1:25:37.400 way of doing things, and they sit in an old 1:25:37.479 --> 1:25:41.040 restaurant and they think are must be better, but it's not. 1:25:41.400 --> 1:25:44.280 And like for catching now it's one of the most 1:25:44.600 --> 1:25:47.880 popular breads right now. And I think the toppings here 1:25:47.880 --> 1:25:50.080 are much more imaginative because they just were not stuck in, 1:25:50.080 --> 1:25:52.719 like I say, tradition. We just some of the stuff 1:25:52.760 --> 1:25:55.080 that we can get now in base reasons in markets 1:25:55.520 --> 1:25:58.080 is amazing and I think far better than you find 1:25:58.120 --> 1:25:59.160 in Europe. Personally. 1:25:59.800 --> 1:26:01.200 Yeah, yeah, I mean the French will send us to 1:26:01.240 --> 1:26:04.360 the guillotine for that. But maybe with them as the exception, 1:26:04.560 --> 1:26:07.320 I agree with that. Now you've got to have a 1:26:07.320 --> 1:26:08.920 good amount of salt when you've probably got to have 1:26:08.960 --> 1:26:11.040 some sugar in all loaves, don't you. 1:26:11.080 --> 1:26:14.559 No, I mean that's the good thing with the way 1:26:14.600 --> 1:26:17.840 people are making bread now, it's four ingredients. Basically, it's 1:26:17.880 --> 1:26:23.320 just water, the flour, some salt, and the natural cements 1:26:23.479 --> 1:26:25.559 is what we use in most of our bread. We 1:26:25.600 --> 1:26:29.240 don't put any sugar anymore, and a lot of people don't, so. 1:26:29.160 --> 1:26:31.639 The natural for me is one of the main ingredients. 1:26:31.680 --> 1:26:34.000 Just patient. You've got to be patient in the process. 1:26:34.520 --> 1:26:37.240 You just got to be We keep a steady twenty 1:26:37.280 --> 1:26:40.519 four degrees. We have cabinets which keep all better twenty 1:26:40.520 --> 1:26:43.160 four degrees on purpose, and that then just keeps it 1:26:43.240 --> 1:26:46.000 very stable. It's like I said about San Francisco, they 1:26:46.120 --> 1:26:49.160 leave theirs out. Even we can't do that because we 1:26:49.200 --> 1:26:51.759 have heats in the summer and the coolness in the winter. 1:26:52.520 --> 1:26:54.439 And when I first started the bakery, I was having 1:26:54.960 --> 1:26:57.040 real big problems with that. So I went to San 1:26:57.040 --> 1:27:01.320 Francisco and that's it properly, and that then what that 1:27:01.360 --> 1:27:03.440 does then is and if you get the right phs, 1:27:03.479 --> 1:27:06.479 it allows the growth of the bacteria over a certain 1:27:06.520 --> 1:27:09.240 amount of time, and so you get a flay that's 1:27:09.280 --> 1:27:13.439 the same all the time. And also the ucility helps 1:27:13.880 --> 1:27:16.120 with the strengthen in the bread too. So if you 1:27:16.120 --> 1:27:18.080 see like a very very flat load, some times it 1:27:18.160 --> 1:27:21.000 might be over fermented. So you'll cut it open, it'll 1:27:21.040 --> 1:27:23.679 be very airy and it will taste sour, like you're saying, 1:27:23.760 --> 1:27:26.720 very sour. But a good bread should taste balanced and 1:27:26.800 --> 1:27:28.320 have a nice structure inside. 1:27:28.560 --> 1:27:30.400 As I said, there's almost nothing better than the smell 1:27:30.439 --> 1:27:33.080 of warm brid Are you you disagree because you had 1:27:33.080 --> 1:27:36.840 it coming through your bedroom window every other way? Just finally, 1:27:36.840 --> 1:27:39.120 I mean your personal story is a fantastic one as well. 1:27:39.120 --> 1:27:41.640 Obviously from North Wales, but then you know you you 1:27:41.720 --> 1:27:44.120 went to some of the great hotels, The Savoy in London, 1:27:44.120 --> 1:27:47.880 that's where you went, missus Jones, you made your wife, 1:27:47.920 --> 1:27:50.600 that's it. But then New York, France, Italy often the 1:27:50.680 --> 1:27:53.160 door Chester. I mean, you've you've worked in some pretty. 1:27:52.840 --> 1:27:56.400 Decent and I represented Australia in a World Cup as 1:27:56.400 --> 1:27:58.800 well in France and one of our cakes came through 1:27:58.880 --> 1:28:01.640 in the World so I've been. I've been around and 1:28:01.680 --> 1:28:03.640 one of two things. Yeah, I like love. I mean 1:28:03.680 --> 1:28:05.519 I love Australia. I love I love it here. It's 1:28:05.520 --> 1:28:07.880 just a great place to do. Business is great and 1:28:07.960 --> 1:28:08.479 I love it. 1:28:09.040 --> 1:28:10.760 What was it like being on twenty four hour call 1:28:10.800 --> 1:28:13.679 with the Salt and the BRUNEI that was a nightmare. 1:28:13.800 --> 1:28:16.280 That was a nightmare. Once I was I was getting 1:28:16.280 --> 1:28:19.120 my suit fit in a in a in a in Northolky, Norwige. 1:28:19.200 --> 1:28:21.000 My wife comes from US, have my suit fitted in 1:28:21.000 --> 1:28:23.840 a suit fitting shop. And they tracked me down there 1:28:23.880 --> 1:28:25.560 because he was coming in and they have to have 1:28:25.640 --> 1:28:27.320 to go straight back to London. And they piled me 1:28:27.360 --> 1:28:29.800 in the suit shop. There's Barry Jones here. I was like, yeah, 1:28:29.840 --> 1:28:32.080 it's me. It says it's a phone call. Oh, you've 1:28:32.080 --> 1:28:33.920 got to come straight back to London. The Sultan flying 1:28:33.960 --> 1:28:35.760 in now with two jets. I was like, oh God. 1:28:36.000 --> 1:28:37.800 My mother and law looking at me, and my wife 1:28:37.800 --> 1:28:40.680 going where are you going back to London? It was 1:28:40.720 --> 1:28:41.280 a nightmare. 1:28:42.360 --> 1:28:45.680 Great, the story is good though. You made Sylvester Stallone's 1:28:45.680 --> 1:28:46.920 wedding cake. What did he want? 1:28:46.920 --> 1:28:50.400 I did well. I came into work on Saturday morning 1:28:50.479 --> 1:28:52.599 not knowing anything about this cake, and next thing, the 1:28:52.600 --> 1:28:55.160 general managers in my office, and then forbesta Sloan comes 1:28:55.160 --> 1:28:57.400 down with his bodyguard and they wanted to. 1:28:57.320 --> 1:28:59.320 Say, Sylvester needs a bodyguard. 1:29:00.120 --> 1:29:03.360 Roddy. He's quite small when you see in real life. 1:29:03.400 --> 1:29:06.479 But it's because all of these He wanted us three 1:29:06.520 --> 1:29:09.519 tier wedding cake. The top tier had to have a 1:29:09.520 --> 1:29:11.280 camera man we you know, the old fashioned camera where 1:29:11.280 --> 1:29:13.960 the drake comes over them like a leg and then 1:29:14.000 --> 1:29:16.840 on the it's just crazy cake. Then twelve cats on 1:29:16.920 --> 1:29:20.320 the bottom layer and twelve red roses, and I had 1:29:20.320 --> 1:29:22.600 to have it in the back of a car to 1:29:22.720 --> 1:29:25.320 drive to Oxford in two hours. And I couldn't believe 1:29:25.360 --> 1:29:29.040 that's like what we did it. We used to get 1:29:29.120 --> 1:29:33.519 lots of crazy, crazy things they wanted from different customers, 1:29:33.520 --> 1:29:36.080 but he had all the top people there, so I 1:29:36.200 --> 1:29:38.639 was used to doing cakes, you know, in no time whatsoever. 1:29:38.760 --> 1:29:41.080 Once I had the Sultan came in and they've got 1:29:41.120 --> 1:29:44.439 a list of cakes. He wanted eighty cakes made in 1:29:44.479 --> 1:29:46.840 an hour to go out to his eighty friends that 1:29:46.840 --> 1:29:48.840 I had birthday since the last time he was there. 1:29:49.439 --> 1:29:52.000 So I did it all, wrote it all. I saw 1:29:52.000 --> 1:29:53.800 them all go down on the room service trolley's and 1:29:53.840 --> 1:29:56.360 I saw them coming back, and then he decided to 1:29:56.400 --> 1:29:58.960 change his mind. He wanted it written in his own language, 1:29:59.040 --> 1:30:01.880 not in English. Oh my god, it's a big startled 1:30:01.880 --> 1:30:02.479 area again. 1:30:04.400 --> 1:30:05.519 But that was the son of it. 1:30:05.760 --> 1:30:07.519 I love that job. It's a great job. 1:30:08.000 --> 1:30:09.679 Yeah, mind you, the one you got now is probably 1:30:09.680 --> 1:30:11.639 just a little less stressful, which is wonderful than You're 1:30:11.680 --> 1:30:13.040 a good old part of the world. And we're lucky 1:30:13.120 --> 1:30:14.719 to have you here. Thank you for your time, Barry, 1:30:14.760 --> 1:30:15.680 wonderful to speak with you. 1:30:16.160 --> 1:30:18.360 Thank you very much, mate, just that bye. 1:30:17.960 --> 1:30:21.080 Bye, congratulations and all the success. Barry Jones, he of 1:30:21.880 --> 1:30:24.280 Missus Jones, the baker fame. They do wonderful thing. And 1:30:24.360 --> 1:30:27.040 the story of bread is a fantastic story, always evolving. 1:30:27.320 --> 1:30:29.439 One three, one eight seven three. Let's get to a stack. 1:30:29.479 --> 1:30:31.040 Of course, a lot of people are talking about the movies, 1:30:31.040 --> 1:30:34.960 of all things. Hello, Karen, Hi, Michael, how are you going. 1:30:35.120 --> 1:30:37.240 I'm good. I'm hungry after all that talk of bread. Though. 1:30:39.160 --> 1:30:41.519 I like Missurdo because it doesn't blow the stomach like 1:30:41.640 --> 1:30:46.560 normal bread. So I'm I'm a but yeah, no, I 1:30:46.720 --> 1:30:49.679 just wanted to talk about movies. I go as often 1:30:49.760 --> 1:30:53.920 as I can and want and love it. I went 1:30:54.000 --> 1:30:56.760 and saw Ocean by David Edinburgh the other day, our 1:30:56.800 --> 1:31:05.120 local and brilliant like actually reassuring that there's hopes for 1:31:05.240 --> 1:31:10.080 the oceans here because there's a lot of salvaging that's 1:31:10.120 --> 1:31:12.519 got to be done and a lot of changes. But 1:31:12.760 --> 1:31:17.519 hopefully with the Ocean Forum meeting somewhere in the world later, 1:31:18.160 --> 1:31:23.519 it'll change a few few habits and we'll save the ocean. 1:31:23.640 --> 1:31:26.519 So it's really it was really interesting. 1:31:27.160 --> 1:31:29.479 Yeah all right, and where did you go? What cinema 1:31:29.560 --> 1:31:30.040 do you go to? 1:31:31.080 --> 1:31:34.320 I go to Cronulla and I went on Tudor Wednesday 1:31:34.360 --> 1:31:36.280 Weddnesday this week, so good. 1:31:36.160 --> 1:31:38.760 Yeah, lovely. I'm glad you enjoyed it. There's nothing better 1:31:38.800 --> 1:31:40.439 than seeing on the big screen. I've just got to 1:31:40.479 --> 1:31:42.160 go and do it more. We've got to support the cinemas. 1:31:42.280 --> 1:31:44.400 Thank you. Karen. Love to hear from me. Hello, Mike. 1:31:46.320 --> 1:31:50.320 Michael, Yes, mate, Yeah, my wife and I don't go 1:31:50.400 --> 1:31:52.760 to the movies very often, but a few weeks ago 1:31:52.840 --> 1:31:56.200 we did make an exception because we're great fans of 1:31:56.400 --> 1:32:01.440 a fantastic online streams series called Chosen, which is about. 1:32:01.760 --> 1:32:07.040 The life of Jesus Christ and the producers decided to 1:32:07.760 --> 1:32:14.280 sort of binge release the entire fifth season on over 1:32:14.680 --> 1:32:17.400 sort of one weekend, so my wife and I sat 1:32:17.479 --> 1:32:21.320 through two three hour blocks almost consecutively. I think it 1:32:21.400 --> 1:32:25.000 was at weather or Parks Cinema and it was quite 1:32:25.000 --> 1:32:28.320 a pretty heavy going. But they are going to release 1:32:28.479 --> 1:32:32.200 I think this month they're releasing it on pay per view, 1:32:33.160 --> 1:32:36.760 I think through Amazon, and then in our springtime they 1:32:36.840 --> 1:32:40.840 all released the entire season along with and the first 1:32:40.960 --> 1:32:44.360 four seasons are already available free online. You just just 1:32:44.680 --> 1:32:46.960 Google watch the Chosen and you can find them and 1:32:47.040 --> 1:32:47.800 watch them all free. 1:32:48.080 --> 1:32:50.080 Okay, fantastic. I'm glad you got to see it on 1:32:50.120 --> 1:32:52.040 the big screen. That sounds wonderful. Good on you, Mike, 1:32:52.040 --> 1:32:55.000 appreciate that. A couple of Texsi Brett says, last time 1:32:55.040 --> 1:32:57.160 I went to the movies over fifty years ago to 1:32:57.240 --> 1:32:59.920 see Charles Bronson. I wait till they come on free 1:33:00.120 --> 1:33:02.360 Way TV. Okay, Brett Edwards said, I haven't been to 1:33:02.400 --> 1:33:05.040 a cinema for forty years. Can I jim. 1:33:06.680 --> 1:33:11.120 Illo my talking bread, which is one of my favorite thirds. 1:33:11.760 --> 1:33:15.639 I am Maltese. I am Maltese by birth, and I've 1:33:15.720 --> 1:33:19.360 been back to Malta numerous times, and one of the 1:33:19.520 --> 1:33:24.280 delights of going back to Malta is to consume the bread. 1:33:24.520 --> 1:33:28.479 Malta has the best bread in the world. I tell 1:33:28.520 --> 1:33:32.400 you this quite solemnly, so much so that when she 1:33:32.640 --> 1:33:36.479 was living there as a young princess, Her Majesty the 1:33:36.600 --> 1:33:42.880 Late Queen absolutely adored Maltese bread. She was living there 1:33:42.960 --> 1:33:45.360 for two and a half years, and she loved it. 1:33:45.920 --> 1:33:49.840 I'm sure that when you got your Maltese listeners out there, 1:33:50.320 --> 1:33:51.920 they will be nodding their head. 1:33:52.160 --> 1:33:54.240 All right, well, I tell you what, Jim, you've thrown 1:33:54.280 --> 1:33:56.439 it out there. Let's see, I'll find out. I mean, 1:33:56.680 --> 1:33:59.599 Maltese a certainly wonderful cooks. I hadn't ever heard about 1:33:59.600 --> 1:34:02.440 how good a Teese bread was. I've heard about the bastitzis, 1:34:02.439 --> 1:34:04.240 and I've heard about the rabbit dishes and this, but 1:34:04.280 --> 1:34:06.599 I've never heard about the bread. So you're the first. 1:34:06.680 --> 1:34:08.840 I don't know any other Maltese people listening. Is is 1:34:08.960 --> 1:34:11.720 Jim true saying the right thing? Maltese bread is the 1:34:11.800 --> 1:34:14.760 best bread in the world. And I sa the French 1:34:14.840 --> 1:34:17.880 would say call themage we do a good bigett, but 1:34:17.960 --> 1:34:19.639 I don't. Maybe I've never been to balder I don't 1:34:19.640 --> 1:34:22.439 know one three, one eight seven three. It's that time 1:34:22.560 --> 1:34:23.400 of the afternoon. 1:34:23.680 --> 1:34:26.240 Time to find out what's coming up on Sydney. 1:34:26.360 --> 1:34:29.920 Now for the Serrato successor, the turbo charged Kia K 1:34:30.160 --> 1:34:34.200 four kias a new small sedan GT line very intavailable. 1:34:34.280 --> 1:34:37.200 Now find out more about Kia's latest small car. 1:34:37.479 --> 1:34:38.960 Well this man, I'll be with you straight after the 1:34:39.080 --> 1:34:42.360 three o'clock years. Clinton Maynard, Good afternoon, Ho, Michael. Do 1:34:42.439 --> 1:34:42.840 you ski? 1:34:43.800 --> 1:34:43.840 No? 1:34:44.080 --> 1:34:44.439 I don't. 1:34:44.840 --> 1:34:47.439 It's the first weekend of the ski seasons. We're going 1:34:47.479 --> 1:34:49.559 to get into the Snowy Mountains to start the program, 1:34:49.680 --> 1:34:51.320 and y better get going. 1:34:51.840 --> 1:34:55.880 You only got twenty nine quantum tunneling with Have you. 1:34:55.880 --> 1:34:57.200 Ever been skiing or snowboarding? 1:34:58.600 --> 1:35:01.160 Not skiing? No, I've done to and also but I 1:35:02.000 --> 1:35:04.960 just know that it wouldn't end well, so I don't 1:35:04.960 --> 1:35:09.560 do it. Are you coordinated? Not particularly No, And as 1:35:09.600 --> 1:35:12.200 soon as sort of skis are on, absolutely not so No, 1:35:12.320 --> 1:35:13.400 I just know ook. 1:35:13.640 --> 1:35:17.200 I've been on quite a few occasions, but mostly in summer. 1:35:17.439 --> 1:35:19.840 Has not been to the Stowy Mountains for various A 1:35:19.880 --> 1:35:22.560 lot of flies, a lot of flies, a few bushfires 1:35:22.560 --> 1:35:24.360 over the years that I've reported on down there. But 1:35:24.520 --> 1:35:27.479 I've never actually placed skis on my feet. 1:35:27.560 --> 1:35:29.400 Okay, well it makes two of it. No, I've never 1:35:29.479 --> 1:35:32.000 put skis on my feet grass skiing. Have you done that? 1:35:32.240 --> 1:35:32.280 No. 1:35:33.400 --> 1:35:36.519 Jamburu Recreation Bark or Jambrew is one of the most 1:35:36.560 --> 1:35:38.759 popular theme parks in the city. That was a grass 1:35:38.760 --> 1:35:42.519 skiing resort and my parents went through a phase in 1:35:42.520 --> 1:35:44.960 the nineteen eighties. They decided to take up grass skiing 1:35:45.600 --> 1:35:47.360 and you put all these toboggan type things on your 1:35:47.400 --> 1:35:48.960 feet and you roll down the hill. 1:35:49.280 --> 1:35:51.679 Well, the royals at those ski resorts as well. 1:35:51.680 --> 1:35:54.679 I'd think so, so I had more experience going grass 1:35:54.720 --> 1:35:55.760 skiing than. 1:35:56.720 --> 1:35:58.120 We should have little blades on them so you can 1:35:58.160 --> 1:35:59.920 mow the lawn as you go down. That's a good idea. 1:36:00.080 --> 1:36:00.559 Two for one. 1:36:00.680 --> 1:36:02.280 That's a very I don't think they still have the 1:36:02.360 --> 1:36:05.280 grass skiing at the Jambree Recreation part. They still have 1:36:05.360 --> 1:36:07.360 the toboggan ride, and that's the boggan ride was the 1:36:07.439 --> 1:36:10.040 second they started with the grass and the toboggan. I know, 1:36:10.080 --> 1:36:12.160 I'm diverting from what I was talking about, just off 1:36:12.160 --> 1:36:13.479 from a bit of a tangent. So it's the opening 1:36:13.479 --> 1:36:15.040 week of this because you said, what are you talking about? 1:36:15.120 --> 1:36:16.479 What's the King's birthday? Long weekend? 1:36:16.600 --> 1:36:19.040 Oh, you keep reminding me because you're not working on Monday. 1:36:19.479 --> 1:36:21.200 I think it's about the fourth time you've raised this. 1:36:21.280 --> 1:36:24.960 I haven't raised our air well, no, just off it's 1:36:25.000 --> 1:36:27.200 living excited to tell the listeners. Every about half an hour, 1:36:27.240 --> 1:36:28.960 he pops his head on. Now, just are you working 1:36:29.000 --> 1:36:29.599 on my years? 1:36:29.640 --> 1:36:29.760 Oh? 1:36:29.840 --> 1:36:34.360 Sorry forgot rub it in anyway, Well, Continuous Call team 1:36:35.320 --> 1:36:38.400 they'll be filming in for you. Expected about maybe potentially 1:36:38.439 --> 1:36:41.519 there's some hopes of seventy thousand people. Wonderful On Monday afternoon, 1:36:41.520 --> 1:36:43.599 you'll hear a full broadcast with the Continuous Call Team 1:36:43.640 --> 1:36:44.920 so that we know to sitt in AUP. So we'll 1:36:44.960 --> 1:36:46.839 go down and check what's happening with the snowy mountains. 1:36:47.080 --> 1:36:47.639 This weekend. 1:36:47.720 --> 1:36:50.680 We'll be talking beef on the program Donald Trump and 1:36:50.800 --> 1:36:53.519 also end of year, end of financial year's sales. Yep, 1:36:54.120 --> 1:36:58.519 the bargain's actually real or no? No, well, it depends 1:36:58.520 --> 1:36:59.280 what you're probably after. 1:36:59.520 --> 1:37:01.360 Things are on soil all the time. I don't know 1:37:01.360 --> 1:37:04.080 about maybe cars could be different cars, I think maybe, 1:37:04.160 --> 1:37:07.680 But by and large, if you're after a book or 1:37:07.720 --> 1:37:11.639 clothing or electronics. They've got to sale every second week. 1:37:11.680 --> 1:37:13.519 But back in the day there was there were only 1:37:13.600 --> 1:37:16.519 two sales year with Grace Brothers. Yeah, the Grace you 1:37:16.560 --> 1:37:18.880 have the Grace Brothers midyear sale. Sorry for those that 1:37:19.800 --> 1:37:22.479 new to the scene, maya these days Grace Brothers mid 1:37:22.560 --> 1:37:25.400 year saling and Grace Brothers box January side. Yeah, boxing 1:37:25.439 --> 1:37:28.120 dust and that was it. But you're walk into minds. 1:37:28.120 --> 1:37:29.000 So it is on salary. 1:37:29.680 --> 1:37:31.679 Well online see online shoppings change the world. 1:37:31.800 --> 1:37:33.639 Yeah, well we'll talk about talk about sales as well. 1:37:33.680 --> 1:37:36.120 Good, okay, thank you Clinton. Clinton. Mayner was Sydney now 1:37:36.640 --> 1:37:38.720 straight after three. You won't hear him on Monday, and 1:37:38.800 --> 1:37:40.680 he'll probably remind us a few more times about that 1:37:40.800 --> 1:37:48.040 between now and when we go home. You see, he 1:37:48.160 --> 1:37:50.240 needs his beauty sleep. So it's all about it's all 1:37:50.240 --> 1:37:53.240 about health and safety and whatever. Aaron mar Good afternoon. 1:37:52.920 --> 1:37:55.800 Good afternoon. Michael. Accused killer Aaron Patterson has told the 1:37:55.880 --> 1:37:59.320 jury and her murder trial it's possible she access posts 1:37:59.439 --> 1:38:02.880 about death cap mushroom sightings. The Prime Minister says he'll 1:38:02.960 --> 1:38:06.280 only consider relaxing rules around beef imports if the nation's 1:38:06.320 --> 1:38:09.680 biosecurity can be guaranteed. The Premier says the passing of 1:38:09.760 --> 1:38:13.160 Joe's Law will ban the future privatization of public acute 1:38:13.240 --> 1:38:17.280 hospitals to improve patient outcomes. And David Beckham is reportedly 1:38:17.360 --> 1:38:20.639 set to receive a knighthood in the UK's King's Birthday honors. 1:38:20.720 --> 1:38:23.839 He'll become Sir David, with Victoria to become Lady Beckham. 1:38:24.240 --> 1:38:26.640 In Sport, Night's coach Adam O'Brien is apologized to the 1:38:26.680 --> 1:38:30.000 club's fan base after blasting them for booing his players. 1:38:30.360 --> 1:38:33.360 Down sixteen nil to Manley at halftime, Newcastle players were 1:38:33.520 --> 1:38:36.200 jeered by their home crowd before winning twenty six twenty 1:38:36.280 --> 1:38:39.120 two in Golden Point. And there'll be more news at three. 1:38:38.960 --> 1:38:43.880 O'clock on afternoons. A finance update for Pretzel Wealth and 1:38:44.000 --> 1:38:48.920 Finance for Trusted Financial Planning just Google Blake went to Pretzel. 1:38:48.840 --> 1:38:51.479 All Right Friday Finance. It is Scott Phillips from the 1:38:51.520 --> 1:38:54.000 Motley Fool with us fool dot com dot au Scott. 1:38:54.120 --> 1:38:57.400 It appears that Tesla's shares have taken a tumble. 1:38:58.439 --> 1:39:02.240 Michael godaf lerne abb abolutely have by fourteen percent, which 1:39:02.280 --> 1:39:04.799 sounds a lot in percentages. Waiting to get the real numbers. 1:39:04.920 --> 1:39:07.920 One hundred and fifty two billion dollars worth of that 1:39:08.080 --> 1:39:11.040 you lost in six and a half short trading hours 1:39:11.160 --> 1:39:14.080 off your stock market overnight on the back of this 1:39:14.240 --> 1:39:19.080 increasingly ugly spat between Musk and President Trump basically both 1:39:19.120 --> 1:39:21.320 taking potshelts to each other now on their respective soxual 1:39:21.360 --> 1:39:25.280 media platforms, Trump on truth on X. Of course, it 1:39:25.320 --> 1:39:27.639 would be funny if it wasn't the world's most richer world, 1:39:27.680 --> 1:39:29.320 bridges man and a letder of the free world. But 1:39:29.360 --> 1:39:33.240 that's where we find ourselves as a result of potentially 1:39:33.360 --> 1:39:35.160 Donald Trump having a go and it must have a 1:39:35.240 --> 1:39:38.639 go back or vice versa. Trump has decided to remove 1:39:38.800 --> 1:39:42.320 EV tax credits. That is going to hurt Tesla's sales, 1:39:42.360 --> 1:39:45.160 simply makes them more expensive for potential buyers in the US, 1:39:45.240 --> 1:39:47.919 that is. And then as a result, and in response 1:39:48.200 --> 1:39:49.920 must say, well, maybe I won't. Let's use my rockets 1:39:49.920 --> 1:39:52.559 to follow your astronauts to space. A lot more probably 1:39:52.560 --> 1:39:53.920 going to come out about that at the next twenty 1:39:53.920 --> 1:39:55.559 four to forty eight hours, but at the moment that's 1:39:55.640 --> 1:39:58.160 the issue, the real issue for Tesla shareholders, and this 1:39:58.280 --> 1:39:59.479 is a bit of a kick in the pants for 1:39:59.479 --> 1:40:01.320 Tesla share as they had for ages said to look 1:40:01.320 --> 1:40:03.200 at Earlin, can you please stop doing so much stuff 1:40:03.240 --> 1:40:05.320 with the government, can and actually run the car company's 1:40:05.320 --> 1:40:07.760 supposed to be running. He said, finally said yeah, okay, 1:40:07.880 --> 1:40:09.240 I'll give up. I'll stop doing that and I'll come 1:40:09.280 --> 1:40:11.200 back to the car company. That in theory should have 1:40:11.200 --> 1:40:13.280 been good news for the shares. But this bat that's 1:40:13.520 --> 1:40:15.880 eventuated means not only was he out of business, we're 1:40:15.880 --> 1:40:18.160 not paying much attention to the company for a few months. 1:40:18.320 --> 1:40:20.760 When he does come back the shell, we're going to 1:40:20.800 --> 1:40:23.560 whack because Elon's made Donald Trump upset. And we know 1:40:23.600 --> 1:40:25.080 that Donald Trum give me a little bit of petuous 1:40:25.120 --> 1:40:27.680 from time to time, and both men famously have very 1:40:27.760 --> 1:40:29.800 very very glass jaws, and so yes, a bit a 1:40:29.840 --> 1:40:32.360 bit of insult flying and Antesla shall wearing one hundred 1:40:32.360 --> 1:40:34.200 and fifty billion dollars worth of paint as a result. 1:40:34.479 --> 1:40:36.160 Yeah, the big boys throwing the big toys out of 1:40:36.160 --> 1:40:40.160 the big cots. That's as happening exactly. Yeah, the markets and. 1:40:40.200 --> 1:40:43.360 The dollar here markets unfortunate, not having a great day. 1:40:43.360 --> 1:40:45.519 We're in positive territory through the morning, but we've dipped 1:40:45.520 --> 1:40:47.920 in a negative territory. This afternoon off by about two 1:40:48.040 --> 1:40:50.799 tenths of a percent. At the moment, we're currently eighty 1:40:50.920 --> 1:40:53.600 seven hundred and forty nine points. And then while the 1:40:53.640 --> 1:40:55.439 dollar is a bit mixed against the major currencies, but 1:40:55.640 --> 1:40:58.400 up against the US dollar back over sixty five cents, 1:40:58.479 --> 1:41:01.320 up two tenths to sixty five point zero three US. 1:41:01.400 --> 1:41:04.000 That's just interesting. Before you go, Scott that the actual 1:41:04.479 --> 1:41:08.280 story that should have been economically relevant today was Trump 1:41:08.400 --> 1:41:10.720 and G of China had a phone call apparently that 1:41:10.760 --> 1:41:13.960 went quite well, and that was about tariffs and Russia. Yeah, 1:41:14.080 --> 1:41:16.280 the stock market should absorb Benzo. That's kind of good. 1:41:16.320 --> 1:41:18.840 But then of course along comes this and you know, 1:41:18.920 --> 1:41:20.200 I mean, who knows what's coming now? 1:41:21.479 --> 1:41:23.559 And that's honestly, that is the story of the Trump 1:41:23.600 --> 1:41:25.960 presidency so far is we're kind of learnching from headline 1:41:26.000 --> 1:41:28.840 to headline. You're right, though, And look for long term investors. 1:41:28.880 --> 1:41:31.320 That's the other thing. Maybe not Tesla Shells, but everybody else. 1:41:32.040 --> 1:41:33.479 If all is going to be selling more baked beans 1:41:33.520 --> 1:41:35.120 and toilet paper in five years than today, and they 1:41:35.120 --> 1:41:37.840 were more profitably than today, we really shouldn't get caught 1:41:37.880 --> 1:41:39.800 up in what is theatrics, I mean, really serious public 1:41:39.840 --> 1:41:43.280 policy stuff. But as investors, unless it's going to dent 1:41:43.439 --> 1:41:45.920 permanently the value of a company you shared your own, 1:41:46.360 --> 1:41:48.680 you could probably afford to take an interest on a 1:41:48.760 --> 1:41:51.360 policy ground and a public public interest of public good ground. 1:41:51.400 --> 1:41:53.920 But as an investor, separate those two things out, because 1:41:53.920 --> 1:41:55.920 if it doesn't impact your company permanently, it is just 1:41:56.040 --> 1:41:56.760 noise on the way through. 1:41:56.960 --> 1:41:58.960 And I guess the markets have decided that in the 1:41:59.280 --> 1:42:02.240 battle between Trump and Musk, Trump is going to win 1:42:02.920 --> 1:42:03.240 so far. 1:42:03.360 --> 1:42:05.160 That's well, he gets to pull the tax credits away, 1:42:05.160 --> 1:42:06.360 and let's se this side to change your mind to 1:42:06.400 --> 1:42:08.800 put them back. That's a permanent damage to Tesla ship. Brother, 1:42:08.920 --> 1:42:11.000 That's exactly the story, right, they'll be pure cars sold. 1:42:11.240 --> 1:42:13.840 Those that are sold will cost their buyers more. And yeah, 1:42:14.160 --> 1:42:18.120 so it's not permanent, semi permanent, longer term damage to 1:42:18.160 --> 1:42:20.320 Tesla as a result of the car's being more expensive. 1:42:20.360 --> 1:42:20.680 From here on. 1:42:20.760 --> 1:42:22.439 It all right, great to talk, have a good weekend 1:42:22.479 --> 1:42:23.960 and we'll catch you. I think on Monday. It's a 1:42:24.000 --> 1:42:25.320 public holiday. Are you with us, Scott? 1:42:25.800 --> 1:42:26.799 I will be here absolutely. 1:42:27.000 --> 1:42:29.439 You're a trooper. Well done Clinton. I don't have a 1:42:29.520 --> 1:42:34.000 jack to Clinton of any Thank you, Scott, Scotti Clinton, 1:42:34.640 --> 1:42:37.000 chief investment officer at the Motley fool full dot com 1:42:37.080 --> 1:42:39.559 dot au, will take a break calls after this eighteen 1:42:39.600 --> 1:42:41.840 to three. I think Tuesday is the day that the 1:42:42.000 --> 1:42:46.400 premiere of Tasmania, Jeremy Rockcliffe, will be asking for a 1:42:46.640 --> 1:42:48.360 new election. I don't think you can do it yet 1:42:48.400 --> 1:42:51.240 because my understanding is the governor's on leave. I think 1:42:51.280 --> 1:42:53.400 that's right that the governor's not back to work until 1:42:53.439 --> 1:42:56.920 Monday afternoon or Tuesday. I might be wrong, but I 1:42:56.960 --> 1:42:59.360 guess these things have to be done in person, and 1:42:59.560 --> 1:43:02.280 so I think that's why the delay on the email. 1:43:02.400 --> 1:43:04.360 Damien says, gree with you call one hundred percent. Malt 1:43:04.360 --> 1:43:05.800 Tease bread is the best bread in the world. I'm 1:43:05.840 --> 1:43:07.680 not mal Teese, but I love my bread and I've 1:43:07.720 --> 1:43:10.040 been to Mortal three times and every time I go, 1:43:10.280 --> 1:43:13.240 the bread is what I look forward to the most. 1:43:13.680 --> 1:43:16.200 Hello Mary, Oh, you've. 1:43:16.040 --> 1:43:19.880 Got a great program. That gentleman was right. Mal Teach 1:43:20.000 --> 1:43:23.479 bread is the best bread there is. It's not heavy 1:43:23.560 --> 1:43:26.439 when you eat it on your stomach, and the smell 1:43:26.640 --> 1:43:31.160 is designe. Maltese people don't eat a meal unless they 1:43:31.240 --> 1:43:32.680 have a bit of bread with it. 1:43:32.880 --> 1:43:35.080 Well, that's a nice idea. Why is it so good though? 1:43:35.200 --> 1:43:37.439 Is it the type of flour they use? What's the sud? 1:43:37.479 --> 1:43:39.639 It must be it must be the flow. I don't 1:43:39.680 --> 1:43:43.720 know because I came here very young, but I have 1:43:43.920 --> 1:43:47.240 them back there and it is. I don't know what 1:43:47.479 --> 1:43:50.200 it is that it makes it. You know, it's good 1:43:50.280 --> 1:43:53.719 for your stomach. It's not heavy, and it doesn't blow 1:43:54.200 --> 1:43:55.760 like make you blow it. 1:43:56.120 --> 1:43:59.920 Yeah, a lot of bread weat belly or whatever they call. 1:43:59.960 --> 1:44:04.040 It is very very very very nice. 1:44:04.080 --> 1:44:04.639 He was right. 1:44:05.600 --> 1:44:08.280 Well, you're backing him up, Mary, so we must be right. 1:44:08.360 --> 1:44:10.040 Thank you for the call. Have a lovely long weekend. 1:44:10.080 --> 1:44:14.519 Hello Pam, Hi Michael, how are you? That's great? 1:44:14.600 --> 1:44:14.840 Listen. 1:44:14.920 --> 1:44:17.360 I need to tell you, if you want you had 1:44:17.400 --> 1:44:22.120 a disaster with a bread machine, buy a Panasonic bread machine. 1:44:22.160 --> 1:44:23.559 I have five of them. 1:44:24.080 --> 1:44:24.920 You have five of them? 1:44:25.640 --> 1:44:28.639 Yes, two old ones are the originals. Then Panasonic went 1:44:28.720 --> 1:44:33.200 out of production and I was devastated. So when they 1:44:33.280 --> 1:44:35.320 came back on, I bought a new one, and then 1:44:35.479 --> 1:44:38.000 I have bought two others so that I have plenty 1:44:38.760 --> 1:44:43.360 of machines. I buy the bread mix from the local 1:44:43.400 --> 1:44:48.879 wholesaler and I will guarantee you that the Panasonic is brilliant. 1:44:49.000 --> 1:44:52.160 I had another machine which I bought, and I, like you, 1:44:52.439 --> 1:44:53.759 I made two house bricks. 1:44:54.000 --> 1:44:56.599 Yes, I readomb the foundations. 1:44:56.080 --> 1:44:59.840 With Yes, the same thing here. But you will never 1:45:00.240 --> 1:45:03.880 ever make a failure with Panasonic. The two old ones 1:45:03.960 --> 1:45:07.080 that I have. I make the dough and I make 1:45:07.160 --> 1:45:12.200 bread rolls, a pizza type thing which I've made today. 1:45:13.320 --> 1:45:15.640 You can do all sorts of things, but a Panasonic, 1:45:15.800 --> 1:45:17.920 I will guarantee. And I'm not on a commission. Might 1:45:18.000 --> 1:45:19.160 I say, I was going to ask. 1:45:19.040 --> 1:45:21.800 You when you're doing the cow bell? Okay, so I'm 1:45:21.840 --> 1:45:24.439 just trying to work out though, Pam. I agree. I'm 1:45:24.479 --> 1:45:27.519 sure Panasonic is brilliant. But you have five? Are you 1:45:27.680 --> 1:45:29.360 using all five at the same time? 1:45:30.200 --> 1:45:31.600 No, No, I used to it. 1:45:31.800 --> 1:45:34.679 I make two laves of bread at once, plain white, 1:45:34.720 --> 1:45:38.120 and then I make for myself Plaine for my husband, 1:45:38.240 --> 1:45:41.240 and I use the other one a sunflower seeds in 1:45:41.360 --> 1:45:44.680 the bread, yes, and I slice it up because we 1:45:44.800 --> 1:45:47.080 live out in the property out of town, and I 1:45:47.320 --> 1:45:52.280 freeze that and then I will make I'll make bread 1:45:52.400 --> 1:45:56.120 rolls whatever I need to make. I do that all 1:45:56.160 --> 1:45:56.479 the time. 1:45:56.680 --> 1:45:58.840 Okay, Well, good on you, well done, Pam. Thank you 1:45:58.960 --> 1:46:01.600 for the call have a love weekend Panasonica. I'm going 1:46:01.640 --> 1:46:03.479 to have to maybe invest in one of those. This 1:46:03.600 --> 1:46:05.760 three from New South Wales Police. Three men have been 1:46:05.880 --> 1:46:09.200 charged after allegedly performing burnouts in Sydney's West last month. 1:46:09.479 --> 1:46:11.960 Police attached to Traffic and Highway Patrol Command commenced an 1:46:12.000 --> 1:46:16.959 investigation following reports of dangerous driving behavior in Bobbin Roads, Sadlier. 1:46:17.400 --> 1:46:20.960 That was back on Sunday, May twenty five. Following inquiries 1:46:21.040 --> 1:46:23.920 on Tuesday, a twenty seven year old man was issued 1:46:23.920 --> 1:46:27.519 a Field Court attendance notice for prolonged sustained loss of 1:46:27.600 --> 1:46:32.880 traction and drive recklessly, slash furiously or speed manner dangerous. 1:46:33.439 --> 1:46:35.240 That's all that police talk, but you get the gist. 1:46:35.720 --> 1:46:38.640 His license was suspended and the vehicle used in the 1:46:38.720 --> 1:46:41.760 alleged offense was impounded for three months now. He's going 1:46:41.840 --> 1:46:44.760 to appear before Liverpool Local Court on Wednesday, June twenty five, 1:46:45.240 --> 1:46:47.840 and following further inquiries, a fifty one year old woman 1:46:48.400 --> 1:46:52.719 has been charged with responsible person custodian not disclosed driver. 1:46:53.520 --> 1:46:56.080 She is due to appear in Liverpool Local Court on Wednesday, 1:46:56.240 --> 1:47:01.360 July twenty three. Officers are continuing there investigations to identify 1:47:01.439 --> 1:47:05.880 the owner and or driver of the third vehicle. It's 1:47:06.000 --> 1:47:08.760 there you go. That's the latest there Now, Bill says, 1:47:08.800 --> 1:47:11.840 whilst I'm sure Maltea's bread is nice, quote unquote, you 1:47:12.000 --> 1:47:14.680 can't beat a great Greek loaf of oh, here we go, 1:47:15.760 --> 1:47:19.200 here we go. See the Greeks claim they do everything 1:47:19.240 --> 1:47:21.160 the best. Now that in many cases they do, but 1:47:22.280 --> 1:47:26.160 it's just it's always what so this is from Billy. 1:47:26.240 --> 1:47:28.760 He says, you can't be the great Greek loaf of 1:47:28.840 --> 1:47:31.439 bread from the wood and oven with olive oil, olives 1:47:31.479 --> 1:47:35.439 and fetter. Well, you know, having just read that, it's 1:47:35.520 --> 1:47:38.760 probably it's probably right. I mean, that would be hard 1:47:38.800 --> 1:47:41.439 to beat. That would certainly be hard to beat. Elizabeth says, 1:47:41.439 --> 1:47:44.160 I've got a Sunbeam bread maker. It's my third best 1:47:44.280 --> 1:47:47.680 bread using Louc flour la UK. You can get that 1:47:47.720 --> 1:47:50.240 of Coles, I think, and she says, you're welcome to 1:47:50.320 --> 1:47:53.120 have it. We buy sour dough now as my husband 1:47:53.200 --> 1:47:57.160 isn't really allowed the carbs. But bread maker is the 1:47:57.280 --> 1:48:01.240 only bread my Conya eats. Conye is a We've got 1:48:01.280 --> 1:48:02.800 a little connue at home, a little sort of like 1:48:02.920 --> 1:48:06.080 a South American Laura keet. There you go. Hey, Elizabeth, 1:48:06.080 --> 1:48:08.240 that's very generous of you. Thank you for your text. 1:48:09.240 --> 1:48:11.360 But if I brought a breadmaker home, I think my 1:48:11.439 --> 1:48:14.240 wife would kill me. It's just what there's a bit 1:48:14.360 --> 1:48:16.240 like the Bible. There's no room at the inn, you know. 1:48:16.320 --> 1:48:19.280 It's just the place is full, sadly. But that's very generous, Elizabeth, 1:48:19.280 --> 1:48:21.760 Thank you so much. It's twelve minutes to three. We'll 1:48:21.760 --> 1:48:23.640 do track of the day right after this. Love it 1:48:23.680 --> 1:48:25.160 to be with you. Plenty of cloud out there now, 1:48:25.240 --> 1:48:26.960 does look like maybe bitter rain is on the way, 1:48:27.080 --> 1:48:29.320 just looking out to the west. We'll see what happens. 1:48:29.400 --> 1:48:30.960 It is nine minutes to three. 1:48:39.640 --> 1:48:40.680 Now one afternoon. 1:48:41.360 --> 1:48:43.840 Track of the day. All right, here we go. I've 1:48:43.840 --> 1:48:46.080 got a double pass to the Sydney Film Festival. Speaking 1:48:46.120 --> 1:48:47.439 of movies, So if you want to actually go to 1:48:47.520 --> 1:48:49.519 a movie, here's a good opportunity. You don't even have 1:48:49.600 --> 1:48:51.760 to pay for the ticket. One three one eight seven 1:48:51.880 --> 1:48:54.640 three A double pass to the Sydney Film Festival. A 1:48:54.920 --> 1:48:57.599 question for you, which I think is pretty straightforward today. 1:48:58.200 --> 1:49:02.120 Which entrepreneur made his first pair of blue jeans on 1:49:02.360 --> 1:49:07.000 this day back in eighteen fifty. Which entrepreneur made his 1:49:07.120 --> 1:49:11.439 first pair of blue jeans on this day in eighteen fifty. 1:49:11.479 --> 1:49:14.000 If you know his name, one three one eight seven 1:49:14.120 --> 1:49:16.839 three first one three is off to the Sydney Film Festival. 1:49:16.880 --> 1:49:19.800 This will help you think hodads time. 1:49:21.680 --> 1:49:24.679 But he can't sing and dancing in can. 1:49:24.800 --> 1:49:30.120 What long as I can have you here with me 1:49:31.439 --> 1:49:43.360 and the traveler beans in blue jeans? Beard sweet, then 1:49:43.880 --> 1:49:51.439 fing next to venistreet. If your pardon me, I said 1:49:52.479 --> 1:49:56.200 window can rever in blue jeans. 1:50:01.040 --> 1:50:01.960 That's name. 1:50:05.080 --> 1:50:06.240 It's night. 1:50:08.320 --> 1:50:28.400 Long nothing all right, I reckon We'll get a winner. 1:50:28.439 --> 1:50:33.920 No more calls Jeff, who are we after? What's the name? Jeff? 1:50:33.920 --> 1:50:36.599 Are you there? Yep, mate? What's the yep? 1:50:38.000 --> 1:50:39.120 Lee by Stroud? 1:50:39.360 --> 1:50:42.160 Correct AMNDO. Well done, Jeff, You're off to the Sydney 1:50:42.200 --> 1:50:44.480 Film Festival. Hang on there, mate, we'll grab your details 1:50:45.000 --> 1:50:47.800 and of course the Sydney Film Festival. Wonderful, wonderful event, 1:50:48.280 --> 1:50:52.160 A bold, inspiring cinema from around the world. June fourth 1:50:52.280 --> 1:50:54.880 to fifteenth, s if if dot org dot are you 1:50:56.040 --> 1:51:12.720 jesus just actually during the ad break, they're watching a 1:51:12.760 --> 1:51:15.040 few replays from the Rugby League Last Night, the Nights 1:51:15.080 --> 1:51:17.160 and the Manly Sea, because that was a heck of 1:51:17.240 --> 1:51:19.320 a game. I got most of the second half. Of course, 1:51:19.400 --> 1:51:21.560 Manly led. It was sixteen Neil, wasn't it halftime? And 1:51:21.600 --> 1:51:24.599 then Newcastle roared back and Manly scored under the post, 1:51:24.640 --> 1:51:27.840 and then Newcastle scored again and again and that try 1:51:27.880 --> 1:51:31.560 at the end for Ponger. They won and the Newcastle 1:51:31.720 --> 1:51:35.320 fans and Noverocastrians that loyally turned up were rewarded with 1:51:35.360 --> 1:51:36.960 the great finish. So well under them there'd been no 1:51:37.040 --> 1:51:38.720 all sorts of strife. The coach would have been under 1:51:38.840 --> 1:51:41.760 enormous pressure, but they produced last night. It was a 1:51:41.760 --> 1:51:44.479 great game of rugby league for Thursday night. And looking 1:51:44.520 --> 1:51:46.320 forward to the rest of the round, including the Tigers 1:51:46.360 --> 1:51:48.880 and the Panthers from Combank on Sunday. I think that's 1:51:48.880 --> 1:51:51.160 four o'clock that one. Next week, when we get the time, 1:51:51.160 --> 1:51:53.439 we'll have a chat about Justices of the peace JP's 1:51:54.120 --> 1:51:56.320 there's a story in the ABC coming out of Victoria, 1:51:56.360 --> 1:52:00.360 but I would imagine it's probably universal across Australia that 1:52:00.840 --> 1:52:03.559 there simply are too few justices of the peace available 1:52:03.600 --> 1:52:06.919 for the booming population. Obviously, a JP is an authorized 1:52:06.920 --> 1:52:11.360 person who witnesses or certifies documents their birth certificate, statuary declarations, wills, 1:52:11.400 --> 1:52:15.599 this sort of thing. But in Victoria there's only three thousand, 1:52:15.640 --> 1:52:19.679 six hundred and ninety nine registered jps, and the bulk 1:52:19.760 --> 1:52:22.560 of those are in metropolitan Melbourne, twenty two hundred and 1:52:22.600 --> 1:52:24.760 twenty nine of them just in Melbourne. So for the 1:52:24.840 --> 1:52:28.439 rest of the state not many left. Fourteen hundred and 1:52:28.520 --> 1:52:31.439 seventy across all of regional Victoria and they serve a 1:52:31.520 --> 1:52:34.960 total population of six and a half million people. Now 1:52:35.040 --> 1:52:37.240 people say, even here in Sydney often oh, where do 1:52:37.360 --> 1:52:40.280 I I can't find a JP? Where's a JP? I mean, 1:52:40.360 --> 1:52:42.519 my late father was a JP. But one of the 1:52:42.560 --> 1:52:45.320 problems in Victoria seems to be that many of those 1:52:45.439 --> 1:52:48.200 that are old are now dying obviously, and they're not 1:52:48.280 --> 1:52:51.040 being replaced by younger people. So how do we get 1:52:51.120 --> 1:52:53.479 the numbers of jps up if indeed we need to, 1:52:53.520 --> 1:52:56.160 We'll have a look at that at some point next week. 1:52:56.479 --> 1:52:58.680 Thank you for your company, Enjoy your long weekend if 1:52:58.680 --> 1:53:00.640 you're having one, and I'll be here Monday with you. 1:53:00.720 --> 1:53:02.479 Look forward to having a chat. Then five an hour