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Speaker 1: Michael McLaren.
Speaker 2: All right, let's get into it Friday. Thank you for
Speaker 2: your company. We are at the end of a working
Speaker 2: week and a lot of people probably not working today
Speaker 2: because they'll be taking advantage of a potential extra long
Speaker 2: weekend with Monday being the King's Birthday public holiday. All right,
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Speaker 2: I'll try to get my head around this whole Elon
Speaker 2: muskveed Donald Trump spat. It is spiraling very very quickly
Speaker 2: out of control. There will only be one winner in
Speaker 2: the short term, and that'll be the president. Money can
Speaker 2: buy you so much, but raw power, and that's what's
Speaker 2: inherent in the title of the President of the United
Speaker 2: States is a power that money really can't buy. So
Speaker 2: Trump will win this, but he will be damaged along
Speaker 2: the way. But there are bigger questions that need to
Speaker 2: be answered and asked and will never to do that
Speaker 2: in our conversation at a moment Adam Crichton later this hour.
Speaker 2: I always enjoy speaking with Adam very bright Man. He's
Speaker 2: now the senior Fellow and chief Economist at the Institute
Speaker 2: of Public Affairs. Mind you, he was The Australian's Washington
Speaker 2: correspondent for a while, so I might ask him his
Speaker 2: take on the whole Trump Musk thing as well. But
Speaker 2: I obstensively want to get him on today to talk
Speaker 2: about immigration policy. He had a very good piece in
Speaker 2: one of the newspapers, it may have been The Australian Today,
Speaker 2: on immigration and he makes the point that the policy
Speaker 2: is not serving Australia. Now, this is a very important
Speaker 2: point that he is making, because we keep being told
Speaker 2: by all of those in a position of power that
Speaker 2: the immigration policy is built off skilled migration and that
Speaker 2: without it the Australian economy would be poorer and all
Speaker 2: the rest of it. Now, there's no doubt if you
Speaker 2: stopped immigration tomory morrow, there would be a cataclysmic impact
Speaker 2: on the economy, no doubt about it. So you can't
Speaker 2: do that. But the numbers we're being bringing in are
Speaker 2: unsustainable and there's no doubt that certain sectors of the
Speaker 2: economy are getting a wonderful net benefit, but perhaps that
Speaker 2: is not flowing through to the economy overall. So you know,
Speaker 2: the education sect, for example, doing very very well out
Speaker 2: of short term residency visas, student visas and the like.
Speaker 2: Now a lot of these people are coming here not
Speaker 2: so much to study. They're using study is the trojan horse,
Speaker 2: the catalyst to end up getting permanent residents in citizenship.
Speaker 2: That's their goal. Now, I guess that's a ringing endorsement
Speaker 2: of modern Australia. People are willing to go through all
Speaker 2: sorts of leaps and hoops and pay a lot of
Speaker 2: money to become ultimately an Australian citizen like you Uri.
Speaker 2: That reflects very well on us and it blows out
Speaker 2: of the water of this argument from some of the
Speaker 2: idiots out there that we're just a sort of a
Speaker 2: backwater in the South Pacific full of a bunch of white,
Speaker 2: red neck racists. I would have wanted to join that club.
Speaker 2: So there goes that argument right there. But we do,
Speaker 2: I think, have a responsibility to ask whether the system
Speaker 2: overall is serving the nation's best interest. Adam's come to
Speaker 2: the conclusion that it is not, and I was talking
Speaker 2: about that later. There's our I know many of you
Speaker 2: have reached that same conclusion. I've seen your text messages.
Speaker 2: After one o'clock, in a slight change of pace, we
Speaker 2: have the OZ Feline Fair coming to Sydney this weekend.
Speaker 2: A lot of cats and a lot of cat owners
Speaker 2: and a lot of people that love cats and all
Speaker 2: the rest of it descending on the ICC. I think
Speaker 2: it is down here at Darling Harbor. I'll be joined
Speaker 2: by an American who's one of the world's leading and
Speaker 2: most renowned judges in the world of cats, Steven Reserve.
Speaker 2: He's here to be part of the judging panel, and
Speaker 2: he and his team are behind these fairs and they've
Speaker 2: done i think seventy around the world in the last
Speaker 2: three years. Big business, putty tats, big business. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of them. Not on Kangaroo Island anymore. That's a
Speaker 2: different story now. Alice will be here for the Domain
Speaker 2: Real Estate Show later on and after two o'clock for
Speaker 2: Friday Food. The focus is on bread. I was just
Speaker 2: speaking there with Mark Levy. I mean I sort of
Speaker 2: rate myself as a reasonable baker. I can handle myself
Speaker 2: when it comes to adding the flour and the sugar
Speaker 2: and the eggs and whatnot. But when it comes to
Speaker 2: making bread, hopeless. And I've tried a few times. Even
Speaker 2: one point, we bought the bread maker, the one that
Speaker 2: Aldi was selling, and followed the instructions and did this
Speaker 2: and did that, and put the currants in to make
Speaker 2: the fruit loaf at the right time through the little hatch,
Speaker 2: and I said, the end product resembled something to come
Speaker 2: off the production light of brickworks more than it would
Speaker 2: a baker's delight. Tried it again, not much better. Okay, anyway,
Speaker 2: So someone else's got the bread machine, Now, good luck
Speaker 2: to them. I hope they're having more success than I am.
Speaker 2: But any of you there must be out there, budding bakers,
Speaker 2: the home bakers. There's nothing better than the smell of
Speaker 2: freshly baked bread in a house, particularly in these colder days.
Speaker 2: If there's someone that knows how to make a good
Speaker 2: sour dough or a high top loaf or whatever it is,
Speaker 2: and they stick the dough in the oven after it's
Speaker 2: proved and risen and done all of this, and then
Speaker 2: it bakes, the smell is intoxicating, and actually, speaking of
Speaker 2: real estate. I think that's one of the old tricks,
Speaker 2: isn't it. You get a whole bowl of green apples
Speaker 2: and you stick it on the kitchen bench because that
Speaker 2: looks nice or something, and you stick a raw loaf
Speaker 2: of bread in the oven and let it bake, and
Speaker 2: just let that smell infuse the house and the people
Speaker 2: coming to the open for inspection or the auction. So
Speaker 2: I like that smell. Whether they're then going to put
Speaker 2: their hand in their pocket a little more deeply, I
Speaker 2: don't know, but it can't hurt anyway. If you've got
Speaker 2: a couple of tricks to making homemade bread, I'd love
Speaker 2: to hear from you, But we'll speak to Barry Jones.
Speaker 2: He's the co founder of Missus Jones, the Baker. They
Speaker 2: certainly know what they're doing after two o'clock for Friday food.
Speaker 2: Of course, any breaking us, any situation on the roads
Speaker 2: will bring it your way as well. And you're our
Speaker 2: eyes and ears, so you keep us up to date
Speaker 2: with what's happening out there in the big city. We
Speaker 2: call Sydney one three one eight seven three is the number.
Speaker 2: It is, sixteen past twelve. Well, look open any news
Speaker 2: site today and the top story will be without exception,
Speaker 2: the war of words that's broken out between Elon Musk
Speaker 2: and Donald Trump, and many have been quick to say
Speaker 2: it was always going to come to this, But now
Speaker 2: that it's actually happening, boy, it threatens to get very messy,
Speaker 2: very fast. Now. Musk on X, Trump on truth Social
Speaker 2: both have been duking it out in a flurry of
Speaker 2: messages and it's escalating like a damn wall with a
Speaker 2: crack about to completely give way and obviously flood everything
Speaker 2: around it that's already flooding the headlines. Musk claims that
Speaker 2: Trump is named in the Epstein files he wants him impeached.
Speaker 2: Trump counterclaims that Musk is just dirty on him because
Speaker 2: he's about to remove the electric vehicle mandate which helped
Speaker 2: make Tesla rich. Now Steve Bannon's even back, He's back
Speaker 2: on the scene calling for Musk to deported. Meanwhile, Tesla's
Speaker 2: share price has taken another walloping, I think, dropping something
Speaker 2: like sixteen percent on Wall Street overnight, and now Musk
Speaker 2: is threatening to decommission his SpaceX drag and spacecraft. They're
Speaker 2: the ones that ferry the cargo to the International Space
Speaker 2: Station for the US. Trump, meanwhile, as counter threatening to
Speaker 2: revoke all of Musk's government contracts. So how did it
Speaker 2: come to this? How did the President and his so
Speaker 2: called first buddy, the genius Ceylon, go from margar bosom
Speaker 2: buddies to enemies. Well, I'm sure in reality there's a
Speaker 2: rather complicated truth behind it all, but on face value,
Speaker 2: it seems the answer lies in just four words, the
Speaker 2: Big Beautiful Bill. Now. Three days ago, Musk took to
Speaker 2: social media to publicly distance himself from Trump's signature economic
Speaker 2: and tax policy. The Big Beautiful Bill, he said, would
Speaker 2: be a massive, outrageous, pork filled spendethon that he concluded
Speaker 2: would be a quote unquote, disgusting abomination. The following day,
Speaker 2: no doubt, buoyed by the enthusiasm with which the media
Speaker 2: reported the first signs of the Musk Trump fallout, he
Speaker 2: doubled down, writing, quote, America is in the fast lane
Speaker 2: to debt slavery. Call your senator, call your congressman. Bankrupting
Speaker 2: America is not okay. Now. By June five, Trump obviously
Speaker 2: had to respond, but he did so in a manner
Speaker 2: that was actually far removed from his usual bombastic style.
Speaker 2: He simply said, and he's in the Oval Office. I'm
Speaker 2: very disappointed because Elon knew the inner workings of the bill.
Speaker 2: He knew it better than almost anybody sitting here. He
Speaker 2: knew everything about it. He had no problem with it,
Speaker 2: But all of a sudden he had a problem. Well
Speaker 2: later that day, in fact, twelve twenty five p m.
Speaker 2: To be precise, Musk responded, denying the bill was ever
Speaker 2: shown to him, and then, obviously brewing in anger, pivoted
Speaker 2: the attacks to the personal stuff that we've seen ever since,
Speaker 2: claiming Trump would never have won the election without him,
Speaker 2: and the tit for tat between the two most powerful
Speaker 2: men in the world went back and forth until Musk,
Speaker 2: in his words, decided it was time to drop the
Speaker 2: really big bomb two forty nine pm US East Coast time,
Speaker 2: writing quote, Donald Trump is in the Epstein files. That
Speaker 2: is the real reason they have not been made public.
Speaker 2: Have a nice day, d JT. Donald J. Trump. Well,
Speaker 2: what comes next is anyone's guess. But suffice to say,
Speaker 2: at a time where the global geopolitical situation is as
Speaker 2: precarious as it is, the only winners from a situation
Speaker 2: where the American president is consumed by the incoming missiles
Speaker 2: of his former confidant set in the presidential palaces of China,
Speaker 2: Russia and Iran. Looking at the stock market, it's pretty
Speaker 2: clear who the big traders reckon will prevail in the
Speaker 2: White House arm wrestle between Trump and Musk. But whether
Speaker 2: Trump can then go on to win the bigger battles,
Speaker 2: the ones on the world stage, having already been wounded
Speaker 2: by what's already been zed, let alone what's to come
Speaker 2: from a clearly disgruntled Musk, Well, that remains uncertain. It'll
Speaker 2: also be fascinating to see if the liber will elite
Speaker 2: start to once again embrace Muskers of visionary rather than
Speaker 2: the devil now that he's busy kicking Trump in the shins?
Speaker 2: Will they start buying his cars again? Will they start
Speaker 2: approving his battery factories in the outskirts of say Adelaide again?
Speaker 2: Will they now stop burning Tesla dealerships to the ground
Speaker 2: and end their wave of domestic terrorism against his assets?
Speaker 2: Watch this space. And of course, while all of this
Speaker 2: is going on, actual important stuff is happening in the
Speaker 2: White House that, if handled deftly, will benefit the entire
Speaker 2: Western hemisphere. For example, Trump and g of China held
Speaker 2: a long phone call just yesterday around the issue of
Speaker 2: tariffs as well as the war in Ukraine. But of
Speaker 2: course that sort of stuff won't register in the world's
Speaker 2: media as everyone allow themselves to get swept up in
Speaker 2: the soap opera between the world's richest man and the
Speaker 2: world's most powerful man. But as this modern day tragedy
Speaker 2: goes through its inevitable acts and verses, hopefully a few
Speaker 2: in the media will take the time to remove themselves
Speaker 2: from the personalities, the yearg and the scandal and instead
Speaker 2: examine the story behind the official catalyst for all of it,
Speaker 2: namely this big, beautiful bill, because that's the real story here,
Speaker 2: and it transcends Musk, and it transcends Trump. For what
Speaker 2: it's worth, I think Musk is actually right to question
Speaker 2: the wisdom of this legislation as it currently stands now.
Speaker 2: The way he's going about it is insane, But as
Speaker 2: the Parliamentary Budget Office in America estimates, it will add
Speaker 2: something like two point three trillion US dollars to America's
Speaker 2: deficits over the next decade. Now Trump's team, they say
Speaker 2: the tariffs will offset that by raising a similar amount
Speaker 2: for the treasury, but of course that's far from guaranteed. Now.
Speaker 2: Trump set up DOGE with Musk as its head for
Speaker 2: a reason. He knew America's fiscal position was unsustainable. As
Speaker 2: we've said many times before, America's federal debt as are
Speaker 2: staggering thirty three trillion US dollars and rising. They're running
Speaker 2: annual deficits close to six percent of GDP. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's estimated the work of DOGE clawed back something like
Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy five billion, but with interest repayments
Speaker 2: now greater than the defense budget, clearly much more has
Speaker 2: to happen. And there is a genuine fear among economic
Speaker 2: conservatives that the Trump plan will fail to stimulate enough
Speaker 2: additional growth to justify its cost to the bottom line.
Speaker 2: And the fundamentals of that debate are actually playing out
Speaker 2: right across the world, with national and even here state
Speaker 2: governments now struggling to balance the books whilst undergrowing pressure
Speaker 2: from voters to cut taxes at the same time funding
Speaker 2: every welfare and infrastructure project under the sun. Put simply,
Speaker 2: you can only stretch the elastic band so far before
Speaker 2: it eventually snaps. I've just been reminded by the way
Speaker 2: we have We've got to do guess the grunt at
Speaker 2: some point today, because we've got that family pass to
Speaker 2: give away to Tarrongazoo. Yesterday, of course, Tarongo had their
Speaker 2: Giving Day and that went very very well, raising money
Speaker 2: for brand new Toronngo Wildlife Hospital. It's going to do
Speaker 2: wonderful work. Of course, you can donate to Torontgo Indy
Speaker 2: Day if you like, Just go to give dot Tarongo,
Speaker 2: dot org, dot au. Now a lot of text messages
Speaker 2: coming through it one three one eight seven three for
Speaker 2: the open line zero four six zero eight seven three
Speaker 2: eight seven three. Edwards says, the US dead is thirty
Speaker 2: six point nine to four trillion. Well, that's not what
Speaker 2: i've seen. I've seen it at thirty What did I say?
Speaker 2: Thirty three? But I suppose if you add this year's
Speaker 2: budget deficit, it will get to about thirty six. So
Speaker 2: I mean, give will take a couple of trillion. But
Speaker 2: what's that between friends when you're already that far gone.
Speaker 2: Steve makes the valid point that the two trillion regarding
Speaker 2: the tariffs will largely come from American consumers because they
Speaker 2: will be paying more for a product that otherwise would
Speaker 2: have been cheaper without the tariffs. Now that's one way
Speaker 2: you can raise revenue, but that doesn't necessarily go to
Speaker 2: the TE treasury. That might just go to the company,
Speaker 2: but the company then has to send that to the
Speaker 2: US Treasury, so the company effectively becomes a middleman. But
Speaker 2: Steven's quite right. The money will largely come out of
Speaker 2: the pocket of American consumers, which in essence is a
Speaker 2: tax hike on the consumer. So all of this talk
Speaker 2: about oh, well, we'll just do the big beautiful bill
Speaker 2: over here, and yeah, there's going to be an additional
Speaker 2: two points something trillion to the budget bottom line debt,
Speaker 2: but will offset that by these tariffs which are going
Speaker 2: to wallop the foreign countries. It doesn't always work. It
Speaker 2: doesn't really work that way at all, And I suppose
Speaker 2: this is what got Musks back up. But as I say,
Speaker 2: there's ways and means about having a falling out with
Speaker 2: someone that you've respected or worked with. Taking it online
Speaker 2: is never the way to do it. But to do
Speaker 2: it in this fashion and then to raise Epstein and
Speaker 2: all that's just crazy. That is really stupid of Musk Because,
Speaker 2: as we discussed a while ago, when there was talk
Speaker 2: about the JFK files had been released, and I think
Speaker 2: the Martin Luther King junior file would be released. Others
Speaker 2: were saying, well, look, while you're out at Pambondi and
Speaker 2: Donald Trump, release the Epstein file. And the White House
Speaker 2: made the valid point that you can't just dump the
Speaker 2: Epstein file out there, because one it's particularly contemporaneous. The others,
Speaker 2: most of the people named will be dead, whether they
Speaker 2: are innocent or involved in anything. The Epstein file will
Speaker 2: have all sorts of names mentioned. Trump's name most probably
Speaker 2: is in there because he had an association with Epstein
Speaker 2: here or there. So you know, a lot of people's
Speaker 2: name will be mentioned. That's not to say they were
Speaker 2: doing anything wrong, illegal criminal or ne Fario's but they
Speaker 2: may have been a business associate of Epstein. They may
Speaker 2: have had a financial arrangement with Epstein. They may have
Speaker 2: been to his house for dinner once or twice, but
Speaker 2: nothing else. So to just sort of, you know, dump
Speaker 2: it all out there declassified, would be to besmirch the
Speaker 2: reputations and names of a lot of innocent people, whilst
Speaker 2: at the same time, yeah, highlighting who may allegedly have
Speaker 2: been involved in horrible things. But you can't do that.
Speaker 2: You just can't do it that way. And so this
Speaker 2: suggestion of Musk sort of wink wink, nudge nudge, is
Speaker 2: really a really silly thing to do. But I mean,
Speaker 2: as I said, whilst the world fixates on this, the
Speaker 2: other actually really big issues that do affect all of
Speaker 2: us still need to be attended to. And the White
Speaker 2: House has been through their proxies very heavily negotiating with
Speaker 2: Iran to try to do something about Iran's uranium enrichment program.
Speaker 2: Now that would be in everyone's interest if they can
Speaker 2: get that sorted. Now, they've been speaking with G of
Speaker 2: China in the last twenty four hours around tariffs and
Speaker 2: Russia and other big issues. We need that relationship stabilized.
Speaker 2: But of course you're not going to hear much about
Speaker 2: that in the next twenty four to forty eight hours
Speaker 2: at the very earliest. It'll all be about the bromance
Speaker 2: that's over and the increasing incendry bombs lobbed well, not
Speaker 2: so much from both sides, particularly from Musk at this stage,
Speaker 2: and he's coming across rather unstable. I would have to
Speaker 2: say one three, one eight seven three the open line number. Now,
Speaker 2: while all of that goes on, the real world keeps
Speaker 2: revolving there's a story that popped up in the News
Speaker 2: Limited papers this morning about a cargo ship carrying about
Speaker 2: three thousand cars. It's been abandoned in the Pacific Ocean
Speaker 2: and left to burn. But these cars I believe are
Speaker 2: electric vehicles. The Morning Midas that's the name of the vessel,
Speaker 2: says he was carrying around eight hundred electric vehicles from China.
Speaker 2: They are en route to Mexico when it caught fire
Speaker 2: about four hundred and fifty kilometers south of Alaska now.
Speaker 2: The US Coast Guard Alaska Division was called to the
Speaker 2: scene of the unfolding disaster by a distress call at
Speaker 2: about three point fifteen pm Tuesday local time, and first
Speaker 2: witnessed smoke coming from the deck of the vessel, where
Speaker 2: the evs was said to be stowed. I don't know
Speaker 2: how they're going to put this out. The crew of
Speaker 2: the Morning Midas were unable to get the fire under control,
Speaker 2: and in consultation with the Coastguard, decided to abandon ship.
Speaker 2: All twenty two sailors have been taken away safely. But
Speaker 2: the incident is underlined, as it says here the safety
Speaker 2: issues with transporting electric vehicles whose lithium ion batteries can
Speaker 2: catch fire and are very hard to put out. Sometimes
Speaker 2: these things can burn for up to two weeks. The
Speaker 2: fiber gay know all about this now. A rear admiral
Speaker 2: who was asked about all of this said, is the
Speaker 2: search and rescue portion of our response concludes. Our crews
Speaker 2: are working closely with the vessel's parent company, which is
Speaker 2: Zodiac Maritime, to determine the disposition of the vessel. We're
Speaker 2: grateful for the selfless actions of the three nearby vessels
Speaker 2: who assisted in the response, and the crew of the
Speaker 2: motor vessel Costco Hellas who helped save twenty two lives.
Speaker 2: This is a forty six point eight forty six eight thousand,
Speaker 2: I should say ton ship the morning Midas, and it
Speaker 2: flies under a Liberian flag built in China. According to
Speaker 2: the Seattle Times, it left the Chinese port of yan
Speaker 2: Thai on May the sixth, and it was en route
Speaker 2: to Lazaro Cardenis in Mexico. It's not going to make
Speaker 2: its final destination one three one eight seven three more
Speaker 2: after this, Okay, it's twenty three minutes to one one
Speaker 2: three one eight seven three. Thanks for all the text messages.
Speaker 2: We'll get through those in due course, although I just
Speaker 2: want to catch up with Adam Crichton because earlier this
Speaker 2: week the ABS released our latest GDP figures. We brought
Speaker 2: those to you when they came through, and the numbers
Speaker 2: were concerning we are back in a per capita recession.
Speaker 2: In fact, GDP per capita has gone backwards for nine
Speaker 2: of the past eleven quarters. And as for productivity, that's
Speaker 2: no better. In the December and March quarters, productivity was flat.
Speaker 2: In fact, in the year to March productivity down one percent.
Speaker 2: So really as a nation, we're doing less and we're
Speaker 2: working less productively, and yet more and more people are
Speaker 2: getting paid more go work that out. Nonetheless, it was
Speaker 2: interesting to read a piece by Adam Crichton in The
Speaker 2: Australian today because unemployment it remains low. Immigration seems to
Speaker 2: be what's propping up the national GDP figures, But you
Speaker 2: put it all together, it does seem individually we are
Speaker 2: not necessarily benefiting in a net sense from this tidal
Speaker 2: wave of humanity which has been allowed to come in
Speaker 2: in the last three or so years. But really it's
Speaker 2: on the back of the decade and a half of
Speaker 2: very big and strong immigration numbers. Now Adam Crichton in
Speaker 2: the past was a big Australia guy, but he's I
Speaker 2: guess written today to an extent, Mayor Culp is not right,
Speaker 2: but a qualified statement on this saying, look, maybe I
Speaker 2: got this one a bit wrong, because now you look
Speaker 2: at the numbers and this isn't working in our interests,
Speaker 2: in the national interest or the individual interests. And that's
Speaker 2: his conclusion, and I think many of you share that conclusion.
Speaker 2: Let's bring Adam in because it's always wonderful to be
Speaker 2: able to pick his brain. Of course, Adam these days
Speaker 2: is well. He used to be with the yours. He
Speaker 2: used to be the Washington correspondent there, so I'll ask
Speaker 2: him about Trumpet muscut a second. But he's now the
Speaker 2: senior Fellow and chief economist at the IPA. Adam Crichton, Good.
Speaker 3: Afternoon, Good afternoon, Michael.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I think I'm right in saying what I said, Arda.
Speaker 2: You were a big Australia guy, but now the hypothesis
Speaker 2: has been allowed to run its course, you'll changing tech.
Speaker 3: Yes, Look, I mean if you go back, you know,
Speaker 3: to the nineteenth century, one of Australians thought that the
Speaker 3: population of Australia one day would be one hundred million,
Speaker 3: and you know, in fairness that you know, the continent
Speaker 3: probably could carry that many people. But just back to
Speaker 3: that debate, Yes, you know I was big Australia because
Speaker 3: I hope that the sort of immigrants that we'd be
Speaker 3: bringing in would integrate easily, would be skilled, would add
Speaker 3: value to the country. But clearly since twenty eighteen, you
Speaker 3: know when I argued that things have changed a lot,
Speaker 3: and the system is clearly out of control where we're
Speaker 3: you know, we're far from bringing in the people that
Speaker 3: we need. I mean a point I made in that
Speaker 3: column was this extraordinary fact that you know, we're meant
Speaker 3: to be having a home building boom in this country,
Speaker 3: but we're hardly bringing in any trades them to do
Speaker 3: the work. So there's I think there's two hundred and
Speaker 3: five thousand people in Australia foreigners in Australia on temporary
Speaker 3: skill visas, and only three percent of those have any
Speaker 3: skills in home building trades, which is just that's just crazy.
Speaker 2: I mean about four thousand out of two hundred and
Speaker 2: five thousand.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, that's right, that's all so, and that's been
Speaker 3: at that ratio about three percent for the last decade.
Speaker 3: So we can't just blame the Labor Party. We have
Speaker 3: to blame both sides of politics. They're just not bringing
Speaker 3: in the sort of skills that we need to achieve
Speaker 3: these these homebuilding goals. And of course that's just one
Speaker 3: category of visa. I mean, we've got two and a
Speaker 3: half million people in Australia, so almost ten percent of
Speaker 3: the population here is on some sort of temporary visa.
Speaker 3: That's extraordinary to me.
Speaker 2: Well it is. Now. See whenever I speak, not when
Speaker 2: you speak to the business lobbies and the bigger end
Speaker 2: of town, and they make genuine cases about certain industrial
Speaker 2: relations policies, which so that's why we speak them. But
Speaker 2: I always raised this issue. I said, look, you know,
Speaker 2: you guys are always in favor of skilled migration. You
Speaker 2: assure us that we have skilled migration. We don't just
Speaker 2: let any old Tom Dick or Harry in. It's all
Speaker 2: about boosting the economy and meeting the needs of the economy.
Speaker 2: And yet I say, you look, look at the situation.
Speaker 2: The skilled shortages don't improve, yet the populations are mushrooming.
Speaker 2: So what's going on? And they can't explain it.
Speaker 3: To me, Well, look, I think it's largely self interest
Speaker 3: of big business. I mean, first, the first point is,
Speaker 3: you know, most big businesses always want a bigger population
Speaker 3: because they can just sell more stuff. I mean, it's
Speaker 3: as simple as that. You know, if you're a scale business,
Speaker 3: you want more customers. So I can understand that from
Speaker 3: the sexual view of the businesses. And then the other thing,
Speaker 3: of course is when they bring in all of these workers,
Speaker 3: it does put down with pressure on wages, There's no
Speaker 3: question about that. And I've always been very suspicious of
Speaker 3: the so called skilled shortage argument because you know, what
Speaker 3: does it really mean. I mean, if there's a shortage,
Speaker 3: you just pay a higher wage and you attract people
Speaker 3: into that job or that industry. But of course businesses
Speaker 3: don't like talking about that. They would rather have the
Speaker 3: wages low. And I understand that from their point of view.
Speaker 3: But from a national point of view, from the point
Speaker 3: of view of Australians who are born here, is that
Speaker 3: the best situation And I don't think it is.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 3: I think a lot of the arguments that we see
Speaker 3: from the universities, from big business, you know, about the
Speaker 3: importance of gruwing our population, they serve their own sexual interests,
Speaker 3: but I don't think they're serving a national interest anymore.
Speaker 2: Well, many would agree listening the quote, so as the
Speaker 2: quotable quote from your piece today was this, you said
Speaker 2: immigration is no longer serving the interests of Australians, but
Speaker 2: rather the immigrants who come here and powerful vested interests,
Speaker 2: including the lines you've just listed and the tertiary education
Speaker 2: sector that you say benefit mechanically from a larger population.
Speaker 2: Is this why Australian voters never get asked this question
Speaker 2: at elections or in a plebasit or anything like that,
Speaker 2: because the powerful vested interests, including the politicians, know that
Speaker 2: we want less migration, but they would lose benefits if
Speaker 2: we were to get our way.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Look, it's a really interesting question, and there was a
Speaker 3: lot of discussion of immigration and the lead up to election,
Speaker 3: but both sides just kind of waved their hands a
Speaker 3: bit and didn't really promise anything. I think there's there's
Speaker 3: largely a bipartisan consensus for the two major parties that
Speaker 3: we that we need very very rapid immigration, and I
Speaker 3: kind of don't understand why that is. They don't really
Speaker 3: explain it to the Australian people. They're obsessed with national
Speaker 3: GDP as opposed to GDP per capita, which is the
Speaker 3: one where you should be concerned about. And as you
Speaker 3: said earlier, that's been going backwards for the last three
Speaker 3: or four years. You know, the pie that you know,
Speaker 3: the slice of the pie that every Australian is getting
Speaker 3: is shrinking, and that's the measure we should be looking at. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I you know, we mentioned the universities and I think
Speaker 3: you know they are you know, I think, well, they
Speaker 3: thrive on obviously foreign student fees because they're far greater
Speaker 3: than the fees that domestic students pay. And those you know,
Speaker 3: that river of cash, that growing river of cash that
Speaker 3: they get, that's what pays all these exhaberitted vice chancellor
Speaker 3: salaries and pro vist tencelor this deputy vice chancellor of that.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's extraordinarily voted industry now. And I would say,
Speaker 3: and you know, just just anecdotally, the quality of education
Speaker 3: at our universities has been forming because of this, because
Speaker 3: the standards need to go down to you know, because
Speaker 3: many of the students can't beginish properly, So how can
Speaker 3: you go to university under those circumstances? And the local
Speaker 3: students suffer, you know, because everything gets done down and
Speaker 3: you know, I always put the question, you know, how
Speaker 3: many of these foreign students would pay these fifty sixty
Speaker 3: thousand dollars a year fees at University of Sydney, University
Speaker 3: of Melbourne if they were not allowed to work here
Speaker 3: at the end.
Speaker 2: Well, not just that, if they weren't allowed to get
Speaker 2: temporary residency, then permanent resident and then ultimately citizenship. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't I don't want to besmirch people because you know,
Speaker 2: they're doing what I think a lot of us would
Speaker 2: do if the roles were reversed. But many of them
Speaker 2: are nothing more than the trojan horse. I mean, they
Speaker 2: are creating the beachhead for other relatives and the rest
Speaker 2: of the family to eventually get to Australia. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's how it works, right, That's why the family stump
Speaker 2: all this money up so they can go and study
Speaker 2: some obscure thing down in the back of Tasmania.
Speaker 6: Exactly.
Speaker 2: It's the end goal, isn't a degree? The end goal
Speaker 2: is residency.
Speaker 3: Yes, No, Look, I mean I always make a point of,
Speaker 3: you know, talking to so many of the uber drivers
Speaker 3: in Melbourne or Indian or Pakistani, And I always ask them,
Speaker 3: you know, on what visa are you here, and almost
Speaker 3: always it's some sort of student visa. But they're here
Speaker 3: to work, really, I mean, you know that's what they
Speaker 3: tell me. They're doing some English course on the side,
Speaker 3: but that's just to tick a box. But just back
Speaker 3: to your earlier point that you know, I've kind of
Speaker 3: the migrants that come here definitely benefit, there's no question
Speaker 3: about that. But if you're going to have a nation,
Speaker 3: if you're going to have a national government, and surely
Speaker 3: the interest of that government is to serve the voters
Speaker 3: in that country, not people overseas. So I mean it's
Speaker 3: a philosophical question, but I would argue that that you
Speaker 3: know that the Australian should be the first priority and
Speaker 3: not people from South Asia or or East Asia or wherever.
Speaker 2: Okay, that just with that, Okay, look, I don't disagree,
Speaker 2: and I mean how could you disagree unless you're some
Speaker 2: sort of internationalist or something. But you look at the debate.
Speaker 2: Now we always hear about the cost of cutting migration.
Speaker 2: That's floated around all the time, and there are genuine
Speaker 2: measurements there that say, okay, well, if you were to
Speaker 2: turn off the tap tomorrow. The care economy, the childcare
Speaker 2: age care, I mean all they just collapse. They'd be disaster.
Speaker 2: So all of this has to be nuanced and carefully balanced.
Speaker 2: But equally, there's almost no countervailing commentary by anybody that
Speaker 2: looks at the cost of the status quo. And you know,
Speaker 2: everyone paying tolls on all of these motorways, everyone who's
Speaker 2: now part of Sydney Water, who's going to have their
Speaker 2: bills close to double if if Sydney Water got their
Speaker 2: way to build all the additional infrastructure for the new housing,
Speaker 2: on and on. I mean there are cumulative costs for
Speaker 2: pump priming the economy with people that are almost never
Speaker 2: mentioned in the same breath.
Speaker 3: Yes, and you know the normal so called solution to
Speaker 3: all this that the government pays I look, well, you know,
Speaker 3: will build all this housing supply. But the housing supply
Speaker 3: that they build is generally generally apartments. They don't have
Speaker 3: people on a building, and yes, do they not have
Speaker 3: people to build it. But do Australian families really want
Speaker 3: to raise their kids in an apartment? I mean I
Speaker 3: certainly don't, never used to. Certainly I didn't grow up
Speaker 3: in an apartment. And I know in other countries that's
Speaker 3: more normal. But you know, one of the special things
Speaker 3: about Australia I thought we used to be that, you know,
Speaker 3: families on ordinary incomes could have a three or four
Speaker 3: bed room house and raise their kids there, whereas governments
Speaker 3: are effectively saying to them, sorry, you can't do that anymore.
Speaker 3: Because we're bringing all these people in, you're going to
Speaker 3: have to live in an apartment. And yes, so that
Speaker 3: is somewhat concerning.
Speaker 2: Well, it is very concerning, I would argue, Okay, so
Speaker 2: what do we do about it? Because you raise a
Speaker 2: philosophical question earlier that probably needs further debate, not that
Speaker 2: it will get it, but it's why do the political
Speaker 2: class indulge in this? And as you said, surely the
Speaker 2: Australian public should be their first priority, not someone else's
Speaker 2: public overseas. Now, my answer to that would be, are
Speaker 2: they I don't know, if they're trying to benefit so
Speaker 2: someone else's public or ours? What they're trying to benefit
Speaker 2: of their big donors? I mean, isn't that? I mean
Speaker 2: that's sort of like the corporatized view of politics, rather
Speaker 2: than the sort of pressing the flesh at the shopping
Speaker 2: center view of politics. And I wonder if that's what's
Speaker 2: happened here, that they've got big donors, they've got people
Speaker 2: that pay for their campaigns and the rest of it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and they're the ones they hang out with and signed
Speaker 2: ten thousand dollars checks to it an overcook piece of
Speaker 2: stake at some fundraiser with and they're in the year.
Speaker 2: We're not in the area, but they're in the area
Speaker 2: saying listen, you know, you know, we've got to have
Speaker 2: more apartments built. We're going to have this built. We're
Speaker 2: going to the university go broke unless we keep the
Speaker 2: Ponzi going. And so they genuflect to them.
Speaker 3: Yes, no, look, I think that's right. I think in
Speaker 3: Australia big business has a lot of influence over the
Speaker 3: two major parties, and in the construction industry in particular
Speaker 3: benefits obviously from rapid immigration and through that, you know,
Speaker 3: the building unions, the CFWU obviously benefits because they've always
Speaker 3: got work, they've always got high paid building big high rises.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you want to be really cynical, which
Speaker 3: which sometimes I am, there is there's a lot of
Speaker 3: evidence actually that these are these immigrants when they eventually
Speaker 3: get residency of citizenship, they vote labor. So if you're
Speaker 3: you know, that's certainly true of Indians, where there's evidence
Speaker 3: that I think two to one may tend to vote
Speaker 3: for CenTra left parties as opposed to center right. And
Speaker 3: so if you're being cynical and you're the Labor party,
Speaker 3: it's you know, maybe a good kind of long term
Speaker 3: strategy to bring in lots of these people. That's a
Speaker 3: terrible thing to say, but you know that that would
Speaker 3: be rational for that party to do that, and you know,
Speaker 3: maybe to some extent that's happening that. Of course, that
Speaker 3: arguments always made in the US with the Democrats that
Speaker 3: the reason that they didn't really care so much about
Speaker 3: the millions of people crossing the border is because they
Speaker 3: suspected that they would eventually democrat one day. And there's
Speaker 3: a lot of evidence for that. You know, some Democrats
Speaker 3: thinkers say it out loud.
Speaker 2: So they do, they don't hide that. Just finally, I
Speaker 2: did an editorial yesterday on the issue, and you raise
Speaker 2: this in your piece today. The labor Prime Minister of Britain,
Speaker 2: Circus Starma, warned that with the pace of migration, and
Speaker 2: that's really the issue. It's not migration, it's the pace
Speaker 2: that the UK risked becoming an island of strangers if
Speaker 2: they don't invest enough time assimilating new arrivals into what
Speaker 2: it means to be British. I said, to be British
Speaker 2: doesn't mean you have to be white. To be British
Speaker 2: is to sign up to a set of values, the
Speaker 2: same way to be Australian it's to sign up to
Speaker 2: a set of values. Colored of the skin should be irrelevant.
Speaker 2: But if we have a lot of people from non
Speaker 2: Western jurisdictions arrive and those home jurisdictions don't have much
Speaker 2: in common with the Australian values, a way of life,
Speaker 2: or political system or legal system whatever, we are making
Speaker 2: it more difficult. Are we not assimilating en mass into
Speaker 2: the Australian psyche And that's not good for the migrant
Speaker 2: and it's not good for the country.
Speaker 3: Yes, no, Look I think that's a good point. You
Speaker 3: can't blame these migrants who are brought in large numbers
Speaker 3: forking to their own culture, because that's what we would
Speaker 3: do in that situation. We do exactly the same thing.
Speaker 3: But because they are being brought in in such large numbers,
Speaker 3: and if they're from non English speaking backgrounds, which of
Speaker 3: course many of them are, then they just keep speaking
Speaker 3: their own language and they never properly learn English. I mean,
Speaker 3: I've been struck. I mean I've just moved to South
Speaker 3: Bank in Melbourne, which is, you know, which is very
Speaker 3: inner city, and the number of people here who can
Speaker 3: only speak Chinese has kind of shocks me actually, you know,
Speaker 3: as I observe it it shops and in various interactions,
Speaker 3: and you know that's understandable from those Chinese movement to
Speaker 3: point of view. But there are just so many here
Speaker 3: that you can function just speaking Chinese. But is that
Speaker 3: good for Australia long term? I don't you know, I'd
Speaker 3: say probably not. But I think people are slowly starting
Speaker 3: to wake up. And just back to Starma. You know
Speaker 3: what's extraordinary compared to the UK and Australia is, you know,
Speaker 3: we are seemingly a lot more torrent. Actually, we don't
Speaker 3: have the level of anger that's brewing over there yet
Speaker 3: in the UK. And tribute to Australians actually, because we
Speaker 3: are far further down that path of being an island
Speaker 3: of strangers, as he put it, than they are. And
Speaker 3: yet and yet it's over there that they're starting to
Speaker 3: be this real political pushback, and I think Starmer and
Speaker 3: the Labor Party there they've looked at the polls. They're saying,
Speaker 3: you know, they're kind of worried about a wipeout in
Speaker 3: three years time, and they're changing their rhetoric and they've
Speaker 3: changed it very starkly. Too.
Speaker 2: Very good to talk, Thank you, Adam. Have a good
Speaker 2: long week again.
Speaker 3: Michael, Yeah, thanks very much.
Speaker 2: All the best. Bye, By Adam Crichton. Always very interesting
Speaker 2: to be able to pick Adam's brain, as said Adam,
Speaker 2: now the senior Fellow and chief Economists at the Institute
Speaker 2: of Public Affairs five to one. I should have mentioned,
Speaker 2: by the way, the article in the Odds today by
Speaker 2: Adam Crichton. It is worth a read. Whether you agree
Speaker 2: or not doesn't matter. You have a read and you
Speaker 2: come up with your own conclusions. But it's titled political
Speaker 2: ineptitude bloated unis fuel immigration chaos. And it's particularly interesting because,
Speaker 2: as Adam just confirmed there, he used to be of
Speaker 2: the opinion not that long ago that what we're doing
Speaker 2: now is a really good thing. But he's changed his mind,
Speaker 2: and I suspect more and more. People who were part
Speaker 2: of the Big Australia Lobby but maybe weren't financially benefiting
Speaker 2: from it, they just thought it was a good thing,
Speaker 2: are also changing their mind. Now Steve will give us
Speaker 2: some update, some details. In just a moment. I am
Speaker 2: getting reports of an accident lane Cove Road and Cox's Road,
Speaker 2: the intersection of lane Cove Road and Coxes Road at
Speaker 2: North Ryde and accident. Steve will give us some details
Speaker 2: coming up there, no doubt. Interesting note here from Lee
Speaker 2: who says the census is held every five or six years.
Speaker 2: The last one was held twenty twenty one. Among other matters,
Speaker 2: info collected during the census is designed to assist with
Speaker 2: the planning for a future country. What's gone wrong? It's
Speaker 2: very good question, Lee, Very good news just coming up
Speaker 2: around the corner. Then we'll catch up with a world
Speaker 2: renowned cat judge. Yes, Stephen Miserver's here for the inaugural
Speaker 2: OZ Feline Fair. Look forward to that.
Speaker 1: After one, Now onto GB and Network stations. Back to
Speaker 1: afternoons with Michael McLaren.
Speaker 2: Seven past one. Thank you for your company. It is
Speaker 2: Friday and it's pretty cold out there, but it is
Speaker 2: that time of year, So just stick on a couple
Speaker 2: of extra layers and you'll be right. One three, one
Speaker 2: eight seven three the open line number. Of course, we'll
Speaker 2: get to our cat judge in just a moment. We've
Speaker 2: got this huge thing. It's massive, the os Feline Fair
Speaker 2: coming to Sydney. There'll be stacks of people down there,
Speaker 2: and it's big all over the world. So Sidney's getting
Speaker 2: its turn this weekend. I'll introduce you to that in
Speaker 2: just a moment. Now, Susan Lee with two s's, of course,
Speaker 2: is now the opposition leader. It was always going to
Speaker 2: be a bit of a problem for her explaining why
Speaker 2: and this is so trivial, okay, but the truth is
Speaker 2: that for most people, their interaction with politics is trivial.
Speaker 2: So Susan was always going to have an issue trying
Speaker 2: to explain how the extra s got in there. And
Speaker 2: we know the long standing story was, because I think
Speaker 2: she said it was, was that she was into new
Speaker 2: neurology at one point and basically the numbers all lined
Speaker 2: up if you added the extra s, and there was
Speaker 2: going to be good fortune and happiness going forward. So
Speaker 2: she's stuck it in there. So she's on our sister
Speaker 2: station THREEAW this morning having a big chat about the
Speaker 2: Liberal Party and it's rebuilt and all of that sort
Speaker 2: of stuff. And then she was asked, I don't know
Speaker 2: who was on this morning, but she was asked a
Speaker 2: lighthearted question about the doubles, just to break the ice. Now,
Speaker 2: remember in twenty fifteen, there's a profile with a newspaper
Speaker 2: out here, and she said, I read about this numerology
Speaker 2: theory that if you add the numbers that match the
Speaker 2: letter in your name, you can change your personality. And
Speaker 2: I worked out that if you added an S, I
Speaker 2: would have an incredibly exciting, interesting life. And okay, so
Speaker 2: there is right clear as the nose on your face.
Speaker 2: I believed in neumeurology and that's why I did it.
Speaker 2: So then she's asked today on THREEAW about this and
Speaker 2: said something a little different. Susan with two s's Lee
Speaker 2: says it was something I did during my rebel teenage years,
Speaker 2: and you know I went through a punk phase in
Speaker 2: those years and added the extra S. People have been
Speaker 2: fascinated by the numerology angle, but it's actually not correct. Okay,
Speaker 2: but you told us it was. It was Tom Elliott
Speaker 2: this morning. Okay, So Tom's probably sitting there going, I'm
Speaker 2: sure I read it in the article, So now it's
Speaker 2: she was what punks do. Apparently punks add extra consonants
Speaker 2: to their names or somethings. They rebel against the system.
Speaker 2: So I don't know. As I said, it's so trivial,
Speaker 2: it's irrelevant. But it's just going to be one of
Speaker 2: those little things. You just watch this. I'm saying, you
Speaker 2: just watched this. Over the next three years, be one
Speaker 2: of those those little things that, like a small bindi
Speaker 2: in your heel, just keeps making itself known and present
Speaker 2: all the way through. It's a distraction, it's a nuisance,
Speaker 2: and there'll be a lot of people out there that think, okay,
Speaker 2: leading the conservative forces and you're into new mourology. Come
Speaker 2: not sure? Now again, is that fair on Susan? Probably not.
Speaker 2: Everybody has beliefs at one point they change those beliefs
Speaker 2: and you know whatever. But as I say, just watch
Speaker 2: this space, it's going to be a hindrance for her.
Speaker 2: Because I'm in the media, I know how it works.
Speaker 2: If there's one thing that journalists like doing, it's they
Speaker 2: like asking questions about so little trivial things that sort
Speaker 2: of personalize the other person that aren't about all the
Speaker 2: heavy stuff, bogging the listener down in too much detail
Speaker 2: and minusier. But when those little things aren't. Oh do
Speaker 2: you like dogs or cats? When they're about you know,
Speaker 2: why did you change your name? Were you really into
Speaker 2: all that numerology stuff? You know? Do you believe it
Speaker 2: that will be a net negative for Susan going forward?
Speaker 2: Just watch it one three, one eight seven three. Well
Speaker 2: look in bad news for dog people. Our pussycats are
Speaker 2: about to be celebrated like never with the oz fee
Speaker 2: Line Fair coming to town. In fact this weekend. It's
Speaker 2: Australia's first national cat convention, uniting a passionate community of
Speaker 2: enthusiasts and breeders and brands to one of the magic
Speaker 2: of our feeline friends. Now. Some of the cat centric
Speaker 2: festivities include the vendor Village that's I'm told going to
Speaker 2: offer an eclectic mix of cat themed products and services.
Speaker 2: There's also the per Creation's Alley I kid you not,
Speaker 2: and that gives you the chance to discover artisan, handmade
Speaker 2: and handcrafted treasures. Of course, there's going to be cat
Speaker 2: judging going on as well, and for those looking to
Speaker 2: add a bit of fashion and flare to the weekend. Well,
Speaker 2: there is the Cosplay Catwalk. It invites attendees to put
Speaker 2: on their best cat costumes for a chance to win
Speaker 2: incredible prizes. Now, this is going to be taking place
Speaker 2: in Sydney down to the Convention Center, I believe. But
Speaker 2: headlining the event is the globally recognized Cat Judge and
Speaker 2: also social media sensation Stephen Berserver. And he's on the
Speaker 2: line with me, Steven afternoon.
Speaker 7: Thank you, Yeah, thanks so much, thanks for having me
Speaker 7: excited to be here.
Speaker 2: Pleasure. America, of course, is your country of origin?
Speaker 7: Well, I mean originally yet, but I live in Portugal
Speaker 7: now full time.
Speaker 2: So yeah, what's the what's the cat like in Portugal?
Speaker 7: It's Mediterranean Europe, so I mean they take good care
Speaker 7: of their cats, but they still need a little bit
Speaker 7: of a little bit more education on Spain and utering,
Speaker 7: but it's a I mean, they do love their animals there, absolutely.
Speaker 2: Okay, Now you're behind an entity called Loving Cats Worldwide indeed,
Speaker 2: and worldwide is the key because over the past two years,
Speaker 2: I think even the team but LCWW have hosted something
Speaker 2: like seventy of these events globally, haven't you.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's been it's been a mental run. To be honest,
Speaker 7: I mean it's this is not I mean, well it
Speaker 7: is now my kind of like second part of my life.
Speaker 7: But this wasn't the way I intended. I mean I
Speaker 7: worked in pr and marketing for a long time and
Speaker 7: I was always a cat judge with a different organization
Speaker 7: based out of the United States, things differently, But I
Speaker 7: wanted I wanted to do something, you know, something new
Speaker 7: or something more engaging. Something It was time to give
Speaker 7: cats their their time. Yeah, and it was it was
Speaker 7: I mean whether or not I caught on to the
Speaker 7: cat craze or it was created by what we're doing.
Speaker 7: You know, we just we just celebrate the cat, you know,
Speaker 7: if you're a Persian or if you're a if you're
Speaker 7: just an orange Margie from your grandmother's backyard. Like we
Speaker 7: just we just we just do things a little bit differently, Yeah,
Speaker 7: a little bit more showy, a little bit more entertaining,
Speaker 7: engaging and educational. Cat shows aren't a new thing. I
Speaker 7: mean like they've existed in Australia, I mean a hundred
Speaker 7: over one hundred years and to be fair, like the
Speaker 7: the Cat the Cat. First cat show took place in
Speaker 7: London's Crystal Palace just only twelve years after the first
Speaker 7: dog show, so it's not that far behind. But if
Speaker 7: you think about it, why is that? Well because cat
Speaker 7: people are introverts and now here I come along and
Speaker 7: we're kind of blowing it up again, blowing it up
Speaker 7: for you.
Speaker 2: Don't You don't strike me as an introvert.
Speaker 7: With yeah, extravated introvert. Maybe is my better is my
Speaker 7: better way?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 7: But you know, yeah, but it's it's it's a it's
Speaker 7: a it's it's been a crazy, it's been a crazy.
Speaker 7: This is only we've only been doing this three years
Speaker 7: and we're now all over US, Canada, United Kingdom, Japan, Philippines, Taiwan,
Speaker 7: South America and obviously we had six cities this tour,
Speaker 7: Sydney finishes it up for me. So I am indeed
Speaker 7: looking as much as I love Australia and I love
Speaker 7: the people. I was actually stayed in Sydney last year
Speaker 7: for two months and I judged for the Australian Association,
Speaker 7: So Sydney has become kind of my second home and
Speaker 7: I really do love it here.
Speaker 2: We're very welcome. Do the do the cats vary from
Speaker 2: country to country? That might be a ridiculous question. But
Speaker 2: do you tend to see different types of cats more
Speaker 2: popular in the UK as opposed to Canada, as opposed
Speaker 2: to the Philippines, or I mean, do you discern these differences.
Speaker 7: You're you're colonized cats, you know, if you think about it,
Speaker 7: the British short hairs are the cats that originated in
Speaker 7: the United Kingdom have a pretty heavy presence here in Australia.
Speaker 7: British short hairs devon rex corner tracks, And I guess
Speaker 7: that kind of makes sense. But you know I did
Speaker 7: the last year I was here. I was really and
Speaker 7: I'm probably the most seasoned, maybe not by age, but
Speaker 7: by I judged the most in an annual. Yeah, for
Speaker 7: I always have, you know, I always took about thirty
Speaker 7: assignments a year and I've judged all over the world.
Speaker 7: And that's a good question, and it really, it really
Speaker 7: is interesting. Australia kind of caught me off guard because
Speaker 7: I was like, oh gosh, it's quarantine. It's an island.
Speaker 7: The cats are going to be feral, Like I mean,
Speaker 7: like this is what I thought, Like they're going to
Speaker 7: be like inbred and like you know what I mean,
Speaker 7: And like I was like because it's kind of what
Speaker 7: the UK was, you know for the longest time until
Speaker 7: they released the quarantine and things have gotten a lot better.
Speaker 7: But you know, to put it into perspective because you
Speaker 7: have such intense quarantine laws and importation of animals. You know,
Speaker 7: if you're going to spend twenty thirty forty thousand dollars
Speaker 7: getting a cat into the country, you're going to buy
Speaker 7: the best of the best, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 7: So like that is that is something that I mean,
Speaker 7: the quality of the cats is, if not the best
Speaker 7: or pretty pretty close to the best in the world.
Speaker 2: That's interesting to know. I mean one of your focuses
Speaker 2: over all of these years of judging, of course, has
Speaker 2: also been on what goes on behind the scenes, and
Speaker 2: you're speaking about bringing the best of the best, I
Speaker 2: mean behind behind all of the cats that we see
Speaker 2: as a breeding program. And they're good breeders, there are
Speaker 2: bad breeders, right, So I mean, how do you, as
Speaker 2: a judge put your name or your voice to encouraging
Speaker 2: good breeding practices and the sort of the cowboy element
Speaker 2: getting them out of the industry.
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly, as a as a judge, you know what
Speaker 7: I mean? If you want to. I'll answer this in
Speaker 7: two ways. As a judge. You know, we can only
Speaker 7: know what we see in front of us, right, I
Speaker 7: don't know, unfortunately, how this cat is kept at home.
Speaker 7: I don't know if the cat has been at all
Speaker 7: the proper scans breed related and you know, and there's
Speaker 7: a lot of stuff that I mean, ethical breeders can
Speaker 7: really cut out people don't know, Like I mean, if
Speaker 7: you want to add a pedigree cat to your life, absolutely,
Speaker 7: I always say that you should take a rescue as well.
Speaker 7: I have seven rescues at home, you know. But the
Speaker 7: and we we we we give the people the questions
Speaker 7: to ask, like people don't know, like I don't know
Speaker 7: what you're equivalent to to Craigslist or like you know,
Speaker 7: whatever you list here like for things for sale or
Speaker 7: Facebook marketplace like these are always red flags, you know,
Speaker 7: if they want to bring the cat to a car park,
Speaker 7: and I mean for you, I mean that's another red flag,
Speaker 7: like really simple things that we've kind of you know,
Speaker 7: you you want to go. You want to add that
Speaker 7: cat to your life for twenty years, so you want
Speaker 7: to make sure you're doing doing your homework and asking
Speaker 7: breed specific questions like a main kun has a high
Speaker 7: probability of heart issues, like you need to ask for
Speaker 7: the scans of the hearts. They can't one hundred percent
Speaker 7: eradicate it, but they can do their best. So there's
Speaker 7: little things like this, which when I do that Loving
Speaker 7: Count's catwalk, we do a whole like kind of meet
Speaker 7: the breed's presentation and talk about the health and the
Speaker 7: history and everything to kind of give people the idea
Speaker 7: of what to do. But we also we'd also work
Speaker 7: with every rescue that we can possibly get in the building.
Speaker 7: And some of the shows in data like in the
Speaker 7: US where we have a huge show in Dallas that
Speaker 7: is like eight thousand square meters. It's massive, and we
Speaker 7: we sometimes have between like thirty and forty rescues represented
Speaker 7: from all over. So that's another big part. And at
Speaker 7: Loving Counts like we are the only association in the
Speaker 7: world as of right now. Yeah, yeah, because it seems
Speaker 7: everyone likes to he likes to take note, right, but
Speaker 7: we are the only association in the world that like
Speaker 7: we we believe that your Orange Maggie or your Tortoiseshell
Speaker 7: is just as deserving of being gushed over and rewarded
Speaker 7: just like a fancy white Persian main cooner Bengal. An
Speaker 7: actually funny story last week in Perth and has never
Speaker 7: happened before. It's only my three years, but it's never
Speaker 7: happened before. We have like what we call the overall
Speaker 7: best in Show, where it's kind of like a mathematical
Speaker 7: equation and we bring back the number ones of the
Speaker 7: kitten class, the junior class, the adult class, and the
Speaker 7: maggie class with the household pets, and the judges vote
Speaker 7: for an overall best in show like the supreme you know,
Speaker 7: of that particular show. And last weekend was a like
Speaker 7: a one year old female run of the male ginger
Speaker 7: tabby cat named Pumpkin, Like that's never happened.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 7: And yeah, the people loved it. It's like exploded, like
Speaker 7: the undercat, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: We love well Ina Striylie, we love an onderdog, but
Speaker 2: we can call.
Speaker 7: It yeah yeah, yeah, for this purpose.
Speaker 2: Now, Okay, Sydney June seven and eight, the International Convention Center,
Speaker 2: that's where it's all going to be taking place. Now.
Speaker 2: You know they say dog owners come to look like
Speaker 2: their dogs. Do you do you see a similar phenomenon
Speaker 2: with cat owners to some of them start to resemble
Speaker 2: their feeline brind.
Speaker 7: It seems to me like, I mean, I never really,
Speaker 7: I mean I started to take notice of this over
Speaker 7: the last few years.
Speaker 2: But you know, you do.
Speaker 7: See like these chunky, chunk British cats, you know, cheshire cat, right,
Speaker 7: like these big like I call them the rugby players
Speaker 7: here in Australia, but like sometimes the owners are pretty close,
Speaker 7: you know.
Speaker 2: Just don't say that to their face, all.
Speaker 7: Right, yeah, indeed, indeed.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, welcome to Sydney. Good luck with all
Speaker 2: the event. It's going to be a massive do I mean,
Speaker 2: if you're down at the convention Center, there'll be a
Speaker 2: lot of humans and a lot of cats. So good
Speaker 2: luck with that. That's all I can say. And thank
Speaker 2: you for your time very much.
Speaker 7: Yeah, thank you very much. Have a good rest of
Speaker 7: your afternoon, hopefully with you guys.
Speaker 2: There absolutely the world renowned cat judge Stephen Miserve, all right, okay,
Speaker 2: it's twenty five past one. Thank you for your company.
Speaker 2: My goodness. He was enthusiastic about cats, wasn't he. One three,
Speaker 2: one eight seven three the open line number. An interesting
Speaker 2: point by Tom by the way. Saying that, Stephen said
Speaker 2: that Katz had been in this country for about one
Speaker 2: hundred years, so I'd probably more like two hundred, because
Speaker 2: when you think back, Matthew Flinders took Trim with him
Speaker 2: on the expeditionary journeys around Australia. Will he did. It's
Speaker 2: a nice little statue to Trim outside the State Library
Speaker 2: of New South Wales, of course, one three, one eight
Speaker 2: seven three. Now we do still have that outstanding family
Speaker 2: pass to Tarron Gazoo to give away, so we do
Speaker 2: need someone to try to guess the grunter. I said,
Speaker 2: this is difficult. I might have to give a clue.
Speaker 2: But before I do, let's just revisit these beautiful sounds,
Speaker 2: these decibels of joy that came from Melbourne Park actually
Speaker 2: a number of years ago. Now, the screaming at the
Speaker 2: end was Serena Williams, all right, but the grunts earlier.
Speaker 2: Someone should have just given one of those Caruso products.
Speaker 2: It would have saved her a lot of trouble. But
Speaker 2: the grunts earlier, that's who we're after. Now, if you
Speaker 2: think you know one three one eight seventy three, the
Speaker 2: family pastor tarn Gazoo coming your way, and interesting, look,
Speaker 2: I might be able to throw in a bonus price.
Speaker 2: I can't promise this. I'm just talking out loud here,
Speaker 2: but this we may be able to do something. Because Jacob,
Speaker 2: our executive producer, came in earlier today and gave me
Speaker 2: a rendition of his tennis grunt was very good. It
Speaker 2: was actually very good. So perhaps the resident grunt a
Speaker 2: Graham himself, Jacob, could make an appearance at your home
Speaker 2: or birthday party or whatever you needed, just a little
Speaker 2: bit of something. Actually, I mean, I have to run
Speaker 2: that by him, but he doesn't one hell of a grunt,
Speaker 2: does Jacob. So anyway, I certainly have the Taronga Zoo
Speaker 2: pass for you. I'll give you a clue as well,
Speaker 2: because I think we went through every tennis female tennis
Speaker 2: player that had been born, but to almost every we
Speaker 2: missed the one that obviously the ads, but every other
Speaker 2: one that been born since about nineteen oh six yesterday,
Speaker 2: none of them were right. The name does end, as
Speaker 2: most tennis player female names do, in Ova. And this
Speaker 2: lady was born in the Czech Republic, all right, So
Speaker 2: that gives you a bit of help. She's check. She's
Speaker 2: a former tennis player now, yes, and like almost everybody there.
Speaker 2: The surname ends in ov A. So if we can
Speaker 2: over and out this one as quickly as possible, that
Speaker 2: would be good. One three, one eight seven three. All right,
Speaker 2: let's say if you can find a winner. Hello, Dot, Hello,
Speaker 2: how are you? I'm all right? How are you cool?
Speaker 6: I think I've got the wrong name.
Speaker 3: I was going to say Mary.
Speaker 2: Peace the French girl. No, was a Mary Pierce. How
Speaker 2: you have a great weekend though, Dot? Thank you for
Speaker 2: your call. Jennifer. Yes, who is it?
Speaker 3: I believe I've got it wrong too. I thought it
Speaker 3: might have been Monica Sellers.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, if it was Monica Sellers over you would
Speaker 2: have been closed. But no, not Monica Sellers. It wasn't
Speaker 2: Monica Sellers. No, So the naming zen Ova she was
Speaker 2: check what you say? According to Wikipedia, this girl won
Speaker 2: five lady now five hundred and eighty three thousand, three
Speaker 2: hundred and ten US dollars in prize money. Not too
Speaker 2: bad in the scheme of things. Now, what about Noel? Hello?
Speaker 2: Who was it?
Speaker 5: Billy?
Speaker 2: No? No, it wasn't Billy. I don't think Billy Jenkin
Speaker 2: was a grunter. I don't. I might be wrong, but
Speaker 2: it wasn't. No nol calls coming through thick and fast,
Speaker 2: but we better vet them, just careful. And thank you
Speaker 2: for the text messages. But no, none of those are
Speaker 2: correct answers either. All right? Who we got here? Scott? Scott?
Speaker 2: Who do you think it is?
Speaker 3: I think it's Maria Sharapova.
Speaker 2: No? Was it Maria Sharapova yesterday? And isn't today? Thank
Speaker 2: you for the called Mike in Adelaide. Who is it
Speaker 2: Mike pet No? No, not her either, Julia, Who do
Speaker 2: you think it is?
Speaker 3: How are you hi?
Speaker 2: Julia? I'm good. Who do you do you reckon it is?
Speaker 7: I think it's Anna corner Kova?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I know she could grunt, but it
Speaker 2: wasn't her. No, thank you, Julia. All the best we've had, Scott,
Speaker 2: we've had all right. So no, none of those, none
Speaker 2: of the above, none of yesterday's. I think we might
Speaker 2: have to for everybody sanity here, have to give another clue.
Speaker 2: First name Sandra. Sandra is the first name. Surname means
Speaker 2: in Ova. She pocketed over half a million, or six
Speaker 2: hundred thousand US prize money in her time. She's check.
Speaker 2: Does that help? I don't know. We'll find out. No,
Speaker 2: And the text keep saying, Marie sharrapovit wasn't Maria. We've
Speaker 2: got Maria on file. We can compare these, but it
Speaker 2: wasn't her. We'll get to the news in just a moment.
Speaker 2: We'll find an answer after that. Of course, one three
Speaker 2: one eight seven three. We'll give away that family pass
Speaker 2: to Taronga. Zoos I said yesterday. And the reason we're
Speaker 2: giving that pass away yesterday was the giving day, Taronga
Speaker 2: Giving Day and the raising of the money. The aim was,
Speaker 2: of course, to get the money for a brand new
Speaker 2: Taronga Wildlife Hospital. I think people were very generous. The
Speaker 2: new hospital will provide expanded surgical, rehabilitation and quarantine facilities
Speaker 2: to meet the growing demand, and will include a marine
Speaker 2: recovery center, modern surgical facilities, and intensive care unit and
Speaker 2: rehab spaces, and a whole stack more. And of course
Speaker 2: you can, if you feel inclined, you can give a
Speaker 2: couple of dollars to Tarrongo any day for these good things.
Speaker 2: Just go to give dot Taronga dot org dot au.
Speaker 2: Give dot Tarongo dot org dot au. It's gone half
Speaker 2: past one. Let's get the news. Aeron Good afternoon.
Speaker 9: Good afternoon, Michael Beef Producers are skeptical about the federal
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Speaker 9: In Sport, the Indiana Pacers have fought back to steel
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Speaker 9: one hundred and ten win. There'll be more news at
Speaker 9: two o'clock on afternoons.
Speaker 2: Oh weather update.
Speaker 10: We'll be here to help in unexpected weather in our
Speaker 10: remainsurance a help company.
Speaker 2: It's got to say. People are suggesting on the text
Speaker 2: lining tennis players. I've never heard of these, just random
Speaker 2: rames out of the check phone book. I don't know
Speaker 2: who these we are. Weatherwyse today partly cloudy for Sydney
Speaker 2: a top of eighteen, are the same for Penrith and
Speaker 2: Richmond seventeen, the top for paramount of Campbelltown and Liverpool eighteen.
Speaker 2: Also for Bondai Today tomorrow mostly sunny in Town nineteen
Speaker 2: the top and then just a possible shower one mill
Speaker 2: or so afternoon or evening more likely on Sunday top
Speaker 2: of seventeen. Now Canberra today thirteen and cloudy showers tomorrow
Speaker 2: maybe five mil of rain top of just eleven, and
Speaker 2: then the follow up of maybe nine mil of rain
Speaker 2: on Sunday a top of ten. Tugrenong today thirteen like
Speaker 2: the nation's capital liftgo well morning frost and thirteen for
Speaker 2: you as well, cloud conditions eleven for Orange mud you
Speaker 2: will get to fifteen bathists fourteen thirteen a katomba spring
Speaker 2: with a little warmer at eighteen. That's all right, partner.
Speaker 2: Cloudy tomorrow for Lythgo and eleven maybe a mill of rain.
Speaker 2: Another seven mil potentially on Sunday showers are expected in
Speaker 2: lyfthgover top of just eight degrees one three one eight
Speaker 2: seven three. Paul, put us out of our misery.
Speaker 3: Mate, Sandra Zalavova.
Speaker 2: That'll do. That's her. Well done. You'll never forget it
Speaker 2: ever again, nor will anybody else. That was the one
Speaker 2: we were after. Well done, mate. Hang on, there a
Speaker 2: family pass to Taronga Zoo coming your way. Sandra Zalivova.
Speaker 2: Never heard of it, but that was her. That was her.
Speaker 2: We've had that checked and triple check. That was definitely her.
Speaker 2: It is twenty seven minutes to two. We'll take a
Speaker 2: break when we come back. Real Estate with the people
Speaker 2: from Domains and now.
Speaker 10: For real Estate Show thanks to Domain, Australia's trusted property marketplace.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's do it on a Friday afternoon. We always
Speaker 2: talk real estate because half of the country is focused
Speaker 2: on real estated about this time of the week as
Speaker 2: we head into the auctions on the weekend. So let's
Speaker 2: catch up with the wonderful at the Stalts from Domain. Alice.
Speaker 11: Good afternoon to you, Good afternoon, Michael, great.
Speaker 2: To bear with you, and with you I tell you
Speaker 2: what the market is absolutely taking off. I think we'll
Speaker 2: start with the auction results before we look at a
Speaker 2: property of the week and the rest of it. But
Speaker 2: it was almost well, it was over thirteen hundred auctions
Speaker 2: in Sydney last week right.
Speaker 11: Indeed, I think it's fair to say it was kind
Speaker 11: of steaming, wasn't it. Thirteen hundred and twenty six houses
Speaker 11: went to auction last weekend. Now what's the most intriguing
Speaker 11: part for me is the clearance for it hit sixty
Speaker 11: eight percent. That means, you know, almost three quarters of
Speaker 11: those selling managed to sell last weekend, which is really
Speaker 11: quite reflective of I guess that confidence that the markets
Speaker 11: are increasingly feeling at the moment.
Speaker 2: They are a lot of stock and a lot of
Speaker 2: say okay, so I should say I forgot to do
Speaker 2: this off the top. If you are after a property valuation,
Speaker 2: get in touch with us and we can put you
Speaker 2: in touch with domain and we'll get you up when
Speaker 2: we have time each week. But the figures are estimates only,
Speaker 2: and we've got to emphasize that the estimates are made
Speaker 2: without any first hand inspections of the properties or their interiors.
Speaker 2: If anyone listening wants an appraisal on their home, they
Speaker 2: should obviously make their own independent inquiries as well through
Speaker 2: accredited independent valuers. Now, with that out of the way,
Speaker 2: let's catch up with Gary. Gary's at Jordan's Springs in
Speaker 2: Sydney's West has a very nice property to talk about. Hello, Gary, Hi, Michael,
Speaker 2: how are you. I'm well, mate, I'm very well. Now
Speaker 2: Alice is here from domain. Just just tell all us
Speaker 2: a little about the property, the number of bedrooms, the bathrooms,
Speaker 2: any renovations, that sort of thing.
Speaker 12: Hi, let's how are you hi?
Speaker 2: Gary?
Speaker 3: Really well?
Speaker 7: Thank you.
Speaker 12: I got it like a five hundred almost fifty five
Speaker 12: and forty h Schameter loot and got a four bedroom
Speaker 12: with the two bathroom and the two garage, and so
Speaker 12: I moved in twenty eighteen seventeen age actually, and then
Speaker 12: I put a ten kilow a planel on top. So
Speaker 12: there's the ducted air condition with a ten point one yes,
Speaker 12: and then I put a new fans and all the
Speaker 12: town life and that recently I done that all the
Speaker 12: landscaping as well on the property.
Speaker 11: Okay, so it sounds like you've made some clever improvements
Speaker 11: to the property there. In that case, they're knowing that
Speaker 11: we know how much value those sort of features can
Speaker 11: add and garage just quickly. Are you very far from
Speaker 11: public transport or is it?
Speaker 4: Is it drive to.
Speaker 11: Get to the train station?
Speaker 12: A train station only ten minutes drive and the bus
Speaker 12: stop is just a two couple of minutes.
Speaker 11: Away, okay, okay? And what about school zones in the area, Gary, Like,
Speaker 11: do you know what the school zones are like in
Speaker 11: the area?
Speaker 12: And there, yeah, there you tend like a drive like
Speaker 12: some of the kids like, there's only five maybe five
Speaker 12: minutes walk from my place for the public school, and
Speaker 12: there's another one is coming up, the high the thing
Speaker 12: is what it's called, the high school is coming up
Speaker 12: maybe twenty seventeen, Okay, it was only five five minutes
Speaker 12: before each year, and a lot of others is only
Speaker 12: within kilometers length, Okay.
Speaker 11: So it sounds very it sounds highly desirable. It's got
Speaker 11: all that amenity around it that people are really searching
Speaker 11: for at the moment. So it's not surprising when I'm
Speaker 11: looking at the media and house price in Jordan Springs
Speaker 11: at the moment, it's just over nine hundred and eighty
Speaker 11: eight thousand dollars, Garying that's gone up six point two
Speaker 11: percent annually, and over the past five years it's gone
Speaker 11: up forty percent. So it's pretty obvious you can see
Speaker 11: that people are really wanting to move to those areas
Speaker 11: with those attributes that you just mentioned there. Now, when
Speaker 11: we're looking at the price of your house at the
Speaker 11: moment it's coming in, I'm giving you a range. The
Speaker 11: lowest point of the range is around nine hundred and
Speaker 11: sixty thousand dollars and the highest point goes up to
Speaker 11: just over one point two eight million dollars Garry. So,
Speaker 11: I guess if you're being ultra conservative, you probably bank
Speaker 11: lot put somewhere right down the middle. But I think
Speaker 11: given that you've made those in to the house such
Speaker 11: as the down lights, the solar panels and that, and
Speaker 11: also the landscape, and we know how much they can
Speaker 11: really sort of roop the rewards in a property when
Speaker 11: it comes to selling, you could probably edge towards more
Speaker 11: towards that higher end.
Speaker 2: O good on you, Gary. Interesting. I mean, it's a
Speaker 2: long way from the CBD. You're very close though, to Penrith,
Speaker 2: and I guess Alice says that New Sydney Western Sydney
Speaker 2: Airport gets off the ground, a lot of the tech
Speaker 2: jobs and the business around that air tropolis start to develop.
Speaker 2: The focal point of Sydney per se from an employment
Speaker 2: point of view, can shift, and so being a long
Speaker 2: way from the CBD may not matter as much as
Speaker 2: it did, say in ten years time, as it does
Speaker 2: now it did ten years ago.
Speaker 11: I think that's right, Michael, And a lot of the
Speaker 11: time the opportunity and property comes from people who can
Speaker 11: kind of believe in the future of what the city
Speaker 11: is going to evolve to, and particularly in spots like
Speaker 11: this that people now might think, gosh, it's you know,
Speaker 11: it's an hour and a half on the on public
Speaker 11: transport to get to the city. That's so far. But
Speaker 11: as you're saying that our whole world will eventually change,
Speaker 11: these little infrastructure and these secondary cities a hubs will
Speaker 11: bob up all around. So the greatest city that I
Speaker 11: think will just start thinking about all of this quite differently.
Speaker 11: And I think you can see, like to me, you know,
Speaker 11: forty percent growth over the past five years. There are
Speaker 11: clearly people already migrating there, and I expect that growth
Speaker 11: to continue over the next five to ten years.
Speaker 2: In particular Jordan Springs a nice planned suburb as well.
Speaker 2: Good only Gary, well done, thank you for the call.
Speaker 2: As I said, if you want to have the treatment
Speaker 2: that Gary got, just get in touch with us one
Speaker 2: three one eight seven through go to my part of
Speaker 2: the website, to jib dot com. Just go to my
Speaker 2: part there there's a form you can fill out. We'll
Speaker 2: send all that, all those details to domain Allis, will
Speaker 2: have a look at it, will come up with the
Speaker 2: formula and get you on and we can discuss the property. Now,
Speaker 2: jen Z's many of them still living at the parents' house,
Speaker 2: of course, because they're saving up for their home or
Speaker 2: their apartment and whatever. There's a trend now emerging there
Speaker 2: being referred to some of these as stay vestas. So look,
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I assume that means they're still
Speaker 2: living at home, but there's spending some money investing in
Speaker 2: another home and they've got a tenant helping pay down
Speaker 2: the debt originally, and maybe that's where they'll move into
Speaker 2: in due course.
Speaker 11: That's exactly right, Michael. We've sort of had investors, we've
Speaker 11: had rent vestors, and now this next set of wave
Speaker 11: of that is the stay vest now a lot of
Speaker 11: the time, these are kind of quite strategically minded adult
Speaker 11: children who have worked out that basically they can buy
Speaker 11: a property, get their foot on the ladder, perhaps a
Speaker 11: bit earlier than what they might would have originally thought
Speaker 11: they would have had to, and then hopefully for them
Speaker 11: rent out that property and then building up that wealth
Speaker 11: while still living in the family home. So I hope
Speaker 11: they're contributing to that family home and they're not taking
Speaker 11: a free ride from mum and dad. But what I
Speaker 11: do like about this, Michael, is that I think it's
Speaker 11: another way of parents being able to help and support
Speaker 11: their children. Because of course we've talked a little bit
Speaker 11: before about the bank of Mum and Dad, and you
Speaker 11: know how helpful it is to many people, and it goes
Speaker 11: without saying is incredibly helpful. However, we know there are
Speaker 11: many people who just simply don't have access to help
Speaker 11: the children out, despite wanting to do everything they can.
Speaker 11: But I think allowing them to stay at home, potentially
Speaker 11: giving them that sort of guidance and assistant sort of
Speaker 11: you know, through education and that, and supporting their decisions
Speaker 11: in doing that if this works for them, can actually
Speaker 11: be a way to get into the market. As you said,
Speaker 11: they could move in there eventually, or they could end
Speaker 11: up buying another property. There was an article in the
Speaker 11: Financial Review and the people who sort of bought multiple
Speaker 11: property investors while still living at home and enjoy mum
Speaker 11: and Dad's company. But also I think, you know, hopefully
Speaker 11: hopefully giving them more confidence in the future when it
Speaker 11: comes to home ownership.
Speaker 2: So I guess there would be a number of people
Speaker 2: listening saying, look, I'm just not in a position to
Speaker 2: be the bank of mum and dad like other relatives
Speaker 2: or other neighbors or indeed other people we know are.
Speaker 2: But we want to really help our young ones get
Speaker 2: that foot on the property ladder because it's often the
Speaker 2: ticket to wealth. So maybe instead of coughing up one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand or whatever people do, we can
Speaker 2: let them stay at home and maybe it's rent free
Speaker 2: or whatever goes on. But that's our way of being
Speaker 2: the bank of mum and dad. It's not with a
Speaker 2: cash injection, but it's in kind.
Speaker 11: That's exactly what I mean. And I think it's also
Speaker 11: more responsible for parents to do that, because we do
Speaker 11: hear of situations where some parents really go to the
Speaker 11: end of the earth to give their childs a cash deposit,
Speaker 11: to help them get a cash deposit. Sometimes they look
Speaker 11: at even selling their own asset. Now the problem with
Speaker 11: that is, of course the child may be out to
Speaker 11: them buy their own place, but what happens to the parents,
Speaker 11: you know? So I think you always have to be
Speaker 11: thinking about that next step, that next move. So you
Speaker 11: don't want to cut off your nose despite your face.
Speaker 11: So I just think doing this is a way to,
Speaker 11: I guess, think differently about supporting your child without having
Speaker 11: to try to rustle up the funds of a huge sum.
Speaker 11: And on your note about paying board or something, Michael,
Speaker 11: sometimes some people do this and they will charge a
Speaker 11: nominal amount of board for their child to stay living
Speaker 11: at home while they're supporting them to invest in this
Speaker 11: property that the child's obviously the mortgage themselves. And then
Speaker 11: sometimes that parent just sort of siphons that money away
Speaker 11: and then perhaps they may give them that money for
Speaker 11: a rainy day in the future when that child eventually
Speaker 11: moves out and says, by the way, he's a little
Speaker 11: a little bit of something to help you spruce up
Speaker 11: your house or something. So I just like the idea
Speaker 11: of the optionality around it. But yeah, it's an interesting thing,
Speaker 11: isn't it.
Speaker 2: It is a lot of people are doing it their
Speaker 2: own way. It is thirteen to two by the way,
Speaker 2: one three one eight seven three. We'll come back to
Speaker 2: Alis in just a moment. Just before we do, Mark
Speaker 2: sent me a text here saying regarding the traffic southbound
Speaker 2: on the M one the Big Dipper three lanes, absolutely
Speaker 2: choc a block, he says, traveling in about forty kilometers
Speaker 2: and our Sydney bound Mark, thank you for that. We'll
Speaker 2: catch up with our traffic team, Steve, etc. And see
Speaker 2: what's happening there. But southbound end one the Big Dipper
Speaker 2: three lanes, according to Mark, choca block about forty k's
Speaker 2: an hour if you're lucky heading towards Sydney. We'll take
Speaker 2: a break more real estate after this. We're talking real
Speaker 2: estate because it's a Friday afternoon with the one full
Speaker 2: Alis stolts from Domain Alice. Let's have a look at
Speaker 2: some of the bargains of the week. We need it.
Speaker 2: We need a bargain or two, and they are out there.
Speaker 2: Despite the incredible auction results in the interest rate cuts
Speaker 2: and everything. I think the first one we should look
Speaker 2: at this too this week actually is and they're Boorkham
Speaker 2: Hills desirable suburbs. So what have we got here? Sorry,
Speaker 2: just start again because I hit the wrong button far away. Sorry.
Speaker 11: There was a sale Michael last weeknd in Walkham Hills
Speaker 11: of this one bedroom flat that's sold at auction. Now
Speaker 11: it's sold for four hundred and forty thousand dollars. But
Speaker 11: what I love about this apartment is it was actually
Speaker 11: on eighty four square meters. Now, if people aren't kind
Speaker 11: of always quite sure when I talk about square metage,
Speaker 11: it's actually a really useful thing to get your head
Speaker 11: around when it comes to understanding room sizes and that.
Speaker 11: But in my mind, one bedroom, you know, often that
Speaker 11: could be a living space, dining space in kitchen, and
Speaker 11: often can be squished into forty five square meters for example.
Speaker 11: So eighty four square meters is actually very generous in size.
Speaker 11: And obviously this is a terrific era. It's not far
Speaker 11: from the city. This comes with a parking spot, a bathroom,
Speaker 11: and it's got lovely it's kind of quite light field,
Speaker 11: and it's got a lovely fuel to that, I think
Speaker 11: with its own balcony, So I think It's a really
Speaker 11: good example of what you can get, particularly if you
Speaker 11: wanted to look at one bedroom apartments. Often people are
Speaker 11: always searching for two bedrooms to get a bargain there.
Speaker 11: But if you can sort of get a more oversized
Speaker 11: one bedroom, that could be a clever way of allowing
Speaker 11: yourself to have a little bit more space. If you
Speaker 11: can get away with just having one separate bedroom, that's.
Speaker 2: A good point. That's not bad, is it? The eighty
Speaker 2: four square? Okay? Then number two here on the list too,
Speaker 2: not just one, but two bargains. It's like that guy
Speaker 2: that's giving away. But wait, there's more State nights Lakember.
Speaker 2: Now three hundred and fifty thousand was all you needed
Speaker 2: to get a one bed, one bath.
Speaker 11: Indeed, it sounds too good to be true, but it
Speaker 11: actually happened. This is a great thing about property when
Speaker 11: you look at the evidence out there, it's actually quite compelling,
Speaker 11: isn't it. This has got a one bed, one bath flat,
Speaker 11: no parking spot, but it does have open plan living
Speaker 11: and dining area all tied throughout a generous sized master bedroom.
Speaker 11: I think it's fair to say, and it's in the Kember,
Speaker 11: and I think it's another interesting way of thinking, if
Speaker 11: I really wanted something, I could always live there for
Speaker 11: a period of time and then potentially rented out in
Speaker 11: the future, you know, in five years time or something,
Speaker 11: and then upgrade to something else, or you know, perhaps
Speaker 11: live there forever and reconfigure it to suit your needs.
Speaker 11: But I think it's another really interesting example of what
Speaker 11: you can get if you're willing to make compromise in
Speaker 11: that location. Obviously the Chemist that a little bit further out,
Speaker 11: but an interesting result.
Speaker 2: Nonetheless, Michael, it is just quickly before you go to
Speaker 2: the word interesting. It is overused. But there are some
Speaker 2: interesting little properties popping up here or there. Some of
Speaker 2: them are old utility sites. Now that I think this
Speaker 2: was a reformer. It's either for sale or it's sold
Speaker 2: a former osgrid site, is that right, Yeah.
Speaker 11: No, it's the sale at the moment. Actually, now this
Speaker 11: is on nearly two hundred fifty square meters is the
Speaker 11: land size. It's been sold as one bedroom, one bath,
Speaker 11: But I think, of course this is literally, guys, a
Speaker 11: utility station, so it's really kind of kind of like
Speaker 11: a warehouse. Apparently there's a bit of interest in people
Speaker 11: who love that idea of developing a heritage site or something.
Speaker 11: Obviously also developers will look at it, but it isn't
Speaker 11: extraordinary to think that a site that was so sort
Speaker 11: of functional, practical and incredibly important is now being sold
Speaker 11: potentially to be converted into something else or have its
Speaker 11: next iteration or whatever.
Speaker 2: That it's interesting. This isn't the one, but near me, well,
Speaker 2: actually maybe this is the one, but near me there
Speaker 2: was an old electrical board two story building and that
Speaker 2: was recently sold. I don't know if they're going to
Speaker 2: convert inside to a number of apartments or it was
Speaker 2: one of those sort of big cavernous gray concrete sprayed efforts.
Speaker 2: But you know, you watch those shows, the real estate
Speaker 2: shows and the housing shows, Grand designs, that sort of
Speaker 2: thing in the UK. I mean often these are the
Speaker 2: sort of places where water towels and the creative people
Speaker 2: get in there and they make it work.
Speaker 11: People can do such incredibly clever things. But I think,
Speaker 11: you know, if you one of those visionary people who
Speaker 11: think I'm not going to feel inhibited by the fact,
Speaker 11: you know the windows are quite high up, or you know,
Speaker 11: they've often got very sort of odd things to them,
Speaker 11: and particularly these buildings are incredibly beautifully made so there
Speaker 11: will be heritage on them, so you are constricted in
Speaker 11: what you can do with them. To the outside will
Speaker 11: have to usually as it is, I forgot to. I
Speaker 11: bury the lead on that one, mother, Michael. This one
Speaker 11: I'm talking about though, is in Newtown, so a really
Speaker 11: interesting example of being in the inner west of Sydney,
Speaker 11: a really clearly desirable location on decent landslides of that
Speaker 11: area for around two million dollars. But I cannot imagine
Speaker 11: what the fit out would cost to reconfigure it and
Speaker 11: to bring it into a residential home. I think it'd
Speaker 11: be pretty substantial. On that one.
Speaker 2: I think I hope your electricity was guaranteed at least.
Speaker 2: Good on you. Thank you, Alice. We'll catch up same
Speaker 2: time next week.
Speaker 11: Thank you, Michael.
Speaker 2: Well the best, the wonderful Alie Stelts there from domain
Speaker 2: are one, three, one, eight, seven three more after the break,
Speaker 2: all right, we've got the two o'clock news just around
Speaker 2: the corner. We're doing Friday food after that, and I'll
Speaker 2: catch up with Barry Jones, the co founder of Missus
Speaker 2: Jones the Baker. They do wonderful step up Northern Beaches
Speaker 2: Way and elsewhere, I think, but bread is the topic,
Speaker 2: and we'll see if we've got any home bread makers
Speaker 2: out there that are budding bakers that know what they're doing.
Speaker 2: Some people do make wonderful homemade bread. Not me. I
Speaker 2: tried a few times, failed every time, gave up. I'll
Speaker 2: also ask you in the final hour about going to
Speaker 2: the movies. I mean, we do the entertain and segment
Speaker 2: with the wonderful Anta Corda every Thursday. In fact, the
Speaker 2: program that the program that she was the movie she
Speaker 2: was reviewing, the Midday Movies just finished. It was as
Speaker 2: bad as she said it was going to be. But Imax,
Speaker 2: I see, you're going to grow their number of screens
Speaker 2: in Australia from four to nine by twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 2: They're banking on the idea that if we do go
Speaker 2: to the cinemas anymore, we're going to be going for
Speaker 2: bigger screens and more lifelike imagery and sound than we
Speaker 2: could get at home. Interesting idea, sort of a niche,
Speaker 2: But I wonder how many people go to the movies anymore.
Speaker 1: It's now onto GB and network stations. Back to afternoons
Speaker 1: with Michael McLaren.
Speaker 2: All right into the final hours, getting a little gray
Speaker 2: and gloomy out there. I just ran up the hall
Speaker 2: and grab a cup of tea. Looked out the window.
Speaker 2: I tho, ooh, okay, so the blue sky of this
Speaker 2: morning is gone. I don't know if we're going to
Speaker 2: get any rain or not. I don't think it's forecast
Speaker 2: or anywhere. We'll see one three, one eight seven the three.
Speaker 2: Not much we can do about it, mind you. With
Speaker 2: that said, Jacob will find the story for me, because
Speaker 2: I don't think I have it here. But in Louisiana,
Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, they think that they can ban
Speaker 2: something that actually doesn't exist. They're just trying to get
Speaker 2: your hit around that. The legislators in Louisiana's state Congress
Speaker 2: or parliament or whatever it's called, I believe, have already
Speaker 2: passed the legislation. I'll have this clarified to ban keem trails. Now,
Speaker 2: as we know, keem trails do not exist. So when
Speaker 2: we know I use the royal pronoun, there some people
Speaker 2: listening do believe it. You write to me, somebody consistently
Speaker 2: writes to me with this weather saying you know this
Speaker 2: is all geo engineer. Well no, I don't. Why would
Speaker 2: you want to continue to have rain over Sydney if
Speaker 2: you could geo engineer the weather when the drought is
Speaker 2: in South Australia and Victoria. Okay, so we got that.
Speaker 2: But the people of Louisiana, the legislators, the wise burghers
Speaker 2: of that part of the South, believe that keem trails
Speaker 2: chemical fog off the back of jetliners deliberately being flown
Speaker 2: in criss cross patterns to then have all of this
Speaker 2: fall on a population and sort of subdue them into
Speaker 2: a big stupor. They believe this is real, and so
Speaker 2: they've pushed a bill through the state House of Representatives,
Speaker 2: according to the New York Post, to ban the chemtrails
Speaker 2: that's going to be taking. That takes quite some doing
Speaker 2: to ban something that isn't real. But anyway, maybe they're
Speaker 2: just getting ahead of the curve. For those that do
Speaker 2: believe in keem trails, you will be buying property post
Speaker 2: haste within somewhere in Louisiana, i'd imagine, to escape their
Speaker 2: knoxis and toxic fog. Right one three, one eight seven
Speaker 2: three the open line number. Okay, at ten minutes past two,
Speaker 2: we'll get to Friday food in just a moment. I
Speaker 2: wanted to ask you alson. I will do this in
Speaker 2: just a secon about the movies. Just keep this in mind.
Speaker 2: Have a think, when was the last time you went
Speaker 2: to a cinema. When was the last time you went
Speaker 2: to a cinema to watch a movie? I think to
Speaker 2: a normal cinema. Maybe it was pre COVID. I think
Speaker 2: when my wife and I last went to see a movie.
Speaker 2: Now we've got a little one not so easy to
Speaker 2: do and all the rest of it. But the last
Speaker 2: time I went to an imax, I remember, I was
Speaker 2: back in the school days. And I don't know if
Speaker 2: it was the big screen the edge up at Katoomber
Speaker 2: or whether we went down to the Imax here of
Speaker 2: Darling Harbor, but they were warning people. I think it
Speaker 2: was up at the edge warning some of the kids.
Speaker 2: Now listen, you might feel a bit queasy and sick here,
Speaker 2: because I think we were watching some big video movie
Speaker 2: where you went over a water fall. It was all
Speaker 2: about the Blue mountains. You might have seen the same one,
Speaker 2: and so you know, those that sort of tumble in
Speaker 2: the roller coasters probably felt a bit the same, and
Speaker 2: they were warned, Look, if you feel a bit queasy,
Speaker 2: you know, put your hand up, will take you out there,
Speaker 2: that sort of thing. But the last time you went
Speaker 2: to a cinema can you even can you remember? Are
Speaker 2: you a regular cinema goer? I mean, we do have
Speaker 2: people that go on the Tuesdays because it's the cheap
Speaker 2: par ticket or whatever it is. But I suspect I
Speaker 2: don't have the numbers in front of me. Maybe we
Speaker 2: can look this up, but I suspect per head of population,
Speaker 2: the number of movie goers is down. That would be
Speaker 2: my guess. You get the blockbusters and so people turn
Speaker 2: up for those, but aside from that, I just don't
Speaker 2: know how many people are going through the turnstiles week
Speaker 2: in and week out. So IMAX say, look, we reckon.
Speaker 2: We can do something about this because we've got these
Speaker 2: really big screens and huge sound systems, and this is
Speaker 2: something that you can't replicate at home with the streaming services. Right,
Speaker 2: So they're growing their number of screens out here from
Speaker 2: four to nine and they're going to do it by
Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven. I have nine screens, And as the
Speaker 2: thin reviewer says, this is a bit that those still
Speaker 2: venturing out to a cinema will want bigger screens, more
Speaker 2: lifelike imagery and sound than they can get at home. Okay,
Speaker 2: now that's a logical investment. I think, I reckon that'll go. Okay,
Speaker 2: so let's see what happens. But when was the last
Speaker 2: time you actually went to the movies? For me, I
Speaker 2: couldn't even tell. It's probably a foreign film. I think
Speaker 2: we went to see one of these, you know, German
Speaker 2: film festivals or French film festival. It was perfectly good.
Speaker 2: It was nice. Maybe it was the latest Bond of
Speaker 2: X years ago, maybe the one before that. Actually I
Speaker 2: can't really remember, but it was that long ago, and
Speaker 2: I suspect a lot of people are probably in the
Speaker 2: same category as me. It'll be let me say, it'd
Speaker 2: be very sad to see a lot of the cinemas
Speaker 2: go out backward. But I guess having said that, if
Speaker 2: people like me don't go, we'll wear the problem. One
Speaker 2: three one eight seven three.
Speaker 1: Now one afternoons Friday food.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, the topic today Friday food at twelve past
Speaker 2: two is the wonderful world of breaded is can considered
Speaker 2: a staple of life. Some of the dietitians might want
Speaker 2: to quabble over that one, but anyway, we all have
Speaker 2: our daily bread, and it has come a long way
Speaker 2: from the first iterations eleven so thousand years ago according
Speaker 2: to the archaeologists. In modern lives it's been the white
Speaker 2: or the brown bread sliced wrapped up, placed in the
Speaker 2: first ale of the supermarket. But in the last well,
Speaker 2: I was going to say decade, maybe the last two
Speaker 2: decades or so, bread has sort of had a renaissance.
Speaker 2: It's evolved for the everyday Australian, particularly with the arrival
Speaker 2: of sourdough that has really become a popular thing. And
Speaker 2: now even when you go to Col's, you know, you
Speaker 2: get the whatever type of French bread by Lauent, whoever
Speaker 2: he is. And so the whole thing is becoming a
Speaker 2: little bit posh. Nothing wrong with the old sausage sandwich
Speaker 2: in the white sliced bread. But I think people don't
Speaker 2: mind investing a few extra dollars in a good quality
Speaker 2: laf of bread. But what makes a good quality lay
Speaker 2: for bread? What's the secret to baking great bread? Even
Speaker 2: at home? What are the best of the best in
Speaker 2: the baking will do to get that fantastic crust and
Speaker 2: that fluffy center and all the rest, and of course
Speaker 2: the smell, oh the smell of fresh bake bread is
Speaker 2: really one of the best smells ever created. Well, speaking
Speaker 2: of the best of the best, I've got one on
Speaker 2: the line with me. His name is Barry Jones, one
Speaker 2: half not the former politician, but one half of the
Speaker 2: Missus Jones, the baker, which has a number of cafes
Speaker 2: in Sydney's northern beaches and the North Shore. If you're
Speaker 2: up that way, chances are you frequent them rather frequently.
Speaker 2: And Barry's with me on the line. Barry, thank you
Speaker 2: for your time.
Speaker 13: Thanks very much for inviting me in.
Speaker 2: It's a wonderful story yours. I mean you were born
Speaker 2: above the bakery in North Wales, so I guess it
Speaker 2: was meant to be.
Speaker 13: Right, I was. I was a had no choice me.
Speaker 13: My bedroom window was next door to extraction fans every
Speaker 13: morn in their weaker I had smell bread in the padroom,
Speaker 13: so it was no choice.
Speaker 2: Bred's you know, I said, It's a staple of life,
Speaker 2: bread and water. It's the sort of the old prison
Speaker 2: died and everyone relies on it. But you can have
Speaker 2: really bad bread and they have really good bread. So
Speaker 2: what's dare I say? The weight from the chaff do you,
Speaker 2: how do you separate.
Speaker 13: Well, I mean depends what you want. I mean we
Speaker 13: get a lot of older people want that they will
Speaker 13: water additional softer bread, but the young people want the
Speaker 13: sour dough because they wanted that digestion. Helps the digestion
Speaker 13: and also, yeah, it just creates. It takes a lot
Speaker 13: of problems away from digesting the flower we have here
Speaker 13: in Australia. So the long fermentation breaks down the blue
Speaker 13: and gives a better flavor, and that's what people want
Speaker 13: these days.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I look at the sour dough certainly has a
Speaker 2: unique flavor. Hence the sour and the sour doname. There
Speaker 2: is that slightly vinegary sour undertoned to it. I don't like.
Speaker 2: I don't know the whole story, my guess as it
Speaker 2: came out of Canada or California or something I think
Speaker 2: originally and then took the world by storm. Is that
Speaker 2: your understanding.
Speaker 13: I was always told Germany it was the German thing
Speaker 13: where left the loaf on the side in the kitchen
Speaker 13: and they realized that it started to rise and it
Speaker 13: was some natural yeast in the air. I was trained
Speaker 13: in San Francisco, California, and it's very popular are due
Speaker 13: to the temperature being realistically around about twenty four degrees
Speaker 13: more year round, and that's what makes a good salad
Speaker 13: or loath, this stability of temperature, and then the growth
Speaker 13: is not too fast and not too slow, and that
Speaker 13: then then produces the sour the acidic flavors. We use
Speaker 13: a pH meetia now a very modern way of doing it,
Speaker 13: So we want the pH to be about four four
Speaker 13: point one four point two in the finished slof. That's
Speaker 13: when you get a nice flavor, not too sour. In
Speaker 13: California they have a very very slow starter and they
Speaker 13: have a very acidic so obviously it takes longer to
Speaker 13: rise and then we get more acidic in it, which
Speaker 13: I don't think would be very popular in Australia, but yeah,
Speaker 13: that's the way we do it.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about some of the basics of bread
Speaker 2: and i'd imagine it does vary between the different recipes.
Speaker 2: If you've got a fruit life for your salad, where
Speaker 2: you just a standard wide or whatever, there's all sorts
Speaker 2: of different ingredients in different quantities. But so the nuts
Speaker 2: and the bolts you mentioned flower earlier, I guess like
Speaker 2: oils and oils flowers, ein flowers. Yeah, you go to
Speaker 2: a European supermarket, you get all these different types of flower.
Speaker 2: You go to our supermarkets you tend to get self
Speaker 2: rising a plain. That's about it.
Speaker 13: So definitely, definitely, And I think Australian breds come a
Speaker 13: long long way. And when I go to Europe now,
Speaker 13: I think Australian breds in line with the world on.
Speaker 13: So it's it's I think people have come and we're
Speaker 13: not stuck with tradition here. So we've got people like
Speaker 13: myself going to San Francisco, going to Germany and Europe
Speaker 13: to train. And the great thing is Australians have taken
Speaker 13: it on and that's why you see it so much.
Speaker 13: They want it now and they demand it, and the
Speaker 13: flower companies in Australia have been able to copy the
Speaker 13: types of flowers that we get in Europe and bring
Speaker 13: it here. So it's really move forward. I think the
Speaker 13: whole Australian cookery has moved forward so much since I've
Speaker 13: been here twenty eight years, and now we're among the
Speaker 13: best in the world of what we do. And people
Speaker 13: don't realize that until they go to you. They come
Speaker 13: back and they say to me, God, Barry, I didn't
Speaker 13: realize that. You know, I got better, better in Australia
Speaker 13: and I got Europe. It's true.
Speaker 2: Well, we are blessed and until your travel, maybe we
Speaker 2: don't realize. But again, I'm going to be piled with
Speaker 2: tomatoes here from the Italians. But I often find the
Speaker 2: Italian food is better than what you get in a
Speaker 2: lot of places in Italy. That's not to say if
Speaker 2: you go to the good places, it's a different story.
Speaker 2: But stock standard, pound for pound, local tratoria, I think, yeah,
Speaker 2: because the ingredients here we do pretty well.
Speaker 13: I think our sensational I think people don't. People go
Speaker 13: to Europe and they get, you know, the cebold fashioned
Speaker 13: way of doing things, and they sit in an old
Speaker 13: restaurant and they think are must be better, but it's not.
Speaker 13: And like for catching now it's one of the most
Speaker 13: popular breads right now. And I think the toppings here
Speaker 13: are much more imaginative because they just were not stuck in,
Speaker 13: like I say, tradition. We just some of the stuff
Speaker 13: that we can get now in base reasons in markets
Speaker 13: is amazing and I think far better than you find
Speaker 13: in Europe. Personally.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean the French will send us to
Speaker 2: the guillotine for that. But maybe with them as the exception,
Speaker 2: I agree with that. Now you've got to have a
Speaker 2: good amount of salt when you've probably got to have
Speaker 2: some sugar in all loaves, don't you.
Speaker 13: No, I mean that's the good thing with the way
Speaker 13: people are making bread now, it's four ingredients. Basically, it's
Speaker 13: just water, the flour, some salt, and the natural cements
Speaker 13: is what we use in most of our bread. We
Speaker 13: don't put any sugar anymore, and a lot of people don't, so.
Speaker 2: The natural for me is one of the main ingredients.
Speaker 2: Just patient. You've got to be patient in the process.
Speaker 13: You just got to be We keep a steady twenty
Speaker 13: four degrees. We have cabinets which keep all better twenty
Speaker 13: four degrees on purpose, and that then just keeps it
Speaker 13: very stable. It's like I said about San Francisco, they
Speaker 13: leave theirs out. Even we can't do that because we
Speaker 13: have heats in the summer and the coolness in the winter.
Speaker 13: And when I first started the bakery, I was having
Speaker 13: real big problems with that. So I went to San
Speaker 13: Francisco and that's it properly, and that then what that
Speaker 13: does then is and if you get the right phs,
Speaker 13: it allows the growth of the bacteria over a certain
Speaker 13: amount of time, and so you get a flay that's
Speaker 13: the same all the time. And also the ucility helps
Speaker 13: with the strengthen in the bread too. So if you
Speaker 13: see like a very very flat load, some times it
Speaker 13: might be over fermented. So you'll cut it open, it'll
Speaker 13: be very airy and it will taste sour, like you're saying,
Speaker 13: very sour. But a good bread should taste balanced and
Speaker 13: have a nice structure inside.
Speaker 2: As I said, there's almost nothing better than the smell
Speaker 2: of warm brid Are you you disagree because you had
Speaker 2: it coming through your bedroom window every other way? Just finally,
Speaker 2: I mean your personal story is a fantastic one as well.
Speaker 2: Obviously from North Wales, but then you know you you
Speaker 2: went to some of the great hotels, The Savoy in London,
Speaker 2: that's where you went, missus Jones, you made your wife,
Speaker 2: that's it. But then New York, France, Italy often the
Speaker 2: door Chester. I mean, you've you've worked in some pretty.
Speaker 13: Decent and I represented Australia in a World Cup as
Speaker 13: well in France and one of our cakes came through
Speaker 13: in the World so I've been. I've been around and
Speaker 13: one of two things. Yeah, I like love. I mean
Speaker 13: I love Australia. I love I love it here. It's
Speaker 13: just a great place to do. Business is great and
Speaker 13: I love it.
Speaker 2: What was it like being on twenty four hour call
Speaker 2: with the Salt and the BRUNEI that was a nightmare.
Speaker 13: That was a nightmare. Once I was I was getting
Speaker 13: my suit fit in a in a in a in Northolky, Norwige.
Speaker 13: My wife comes from US, have my suit fitted in
Speaker 13: a suit fitting shop. And they tracked me down there
Speaker 13: because he was coming in and they have to have
Speaker 13: to go straight back to London. And they piled me
Speaker 13: in the suit shop. There's Barry Jones here. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 13: it's me. It says it's a phone call. Oh, you've
Speaker 13: got to come straight back to London. The Sultan flying
Speaker 13: in now with two jets. I was like, oh God.
Speaker 13: My mother and law looking at me, and my wife
Speaker 13: going where are you going back to London? It was
Speaker 13: a nightmare.
Speaker 2: Great, the story is good though. You made Sylvester Stallone's
Speaker 2: wedding cake. What did he want?
Speaker 13: I did well. I came into work on Saturday morning
Speaker 13: not knowing anything about this cake, and next thing, the
Speaker 13: general managers in my office, and then forbesta Sloan comes
Speaker 13: down with his bodyguard and they wanted to.
Speaker 2: Say, Sylvester needs a bodyguard.
Speaker 13: Roddy. He's quite small when you see in real life.
Speaker 13: But it's because all of these He wanted us three
Speaker 13: tier wedding cake. The top tier had to have a
Speaker 13: camera man we you know, the old fashioned camera where
Speaker 13: the drake comes over them like a leg and then
Speaker 13: on the it's just crazy cake. Then twelve cats on
Speaker 13: the bottom layer and twelve red roses, and I had
Speaker 13: to have it in the back of a car to
Speaker 13: drive to Oxford in two hours. And I couldn't believe
Speaker 13: that's like what we did it. We used to get
Speaker 13: lots of crazy, crazy things they wanted from different customers,
Speaker 13: but he had all the top people there, so I
Speaker 13: was used to doing cakes, you know, in no time whatsoever.
Speaker 13: Once I had the Sultan came in and they've got
Speaker 13: a list of cakes. He wanted eighty cakes made in
Speaker 13: an hour to go out to his eighty friends that
Speaker 13: I had birthday since the last time he was there.
Speaker 13: So I did it all, wrote it all. I saw
Speaker 13: them all go down on the room service trolley's and
Speaker 13: I saw them coming back, and then he decided to
Speaker 13: change his mind. He wanted it written in his own language,
Speaker 13: not in English. Oh my god, it's a big startled
Speaker 13: area again.
Speaker 6: But that was the son of it.
Speaker 13: I love that job. It's a great job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, mind you, the one you got now is probably
Speaker 2: just a little less stressful, which is wonderful than You're
Speaker 2: a good old part of the world. And we're lucky
Speaker 2: to have you here. Thank you for your time, Barry,
Speaker 2: wonderful to speak with you.
Speaker 13: Thank you very much, mate, just that bye.
Speaker 2: Bye, congratulations and all the success. Barry Jones, he of
Speaker 2: Missus Jones, the baker fame. They do wonderful thing. And
Speaker 2: the story of bread is a fantastic story, always evolving.
Speaker 2: One three, one eight seven three. Let's get to a stack.
Speaker 2: Of course, a lot of people are talking about the movies,
Speaker 2: of all things. Hello, Karen, Hi, Michael, how are you going.
Speaker 2: I'm good. I'm hungry after all that talk of bread. Though.
Speaker 14: I like Missurdo because it doesn't blow the stomach like
Speaker 14: normal bread. So I'm I'm a but yeah, no, I
Speaker 14: just wanted to talk about movies. I go as often
Speaker 14: as I can and want and love it. I went
Speaker 14: and saw Ocean by David Edinburgh the other day, our
Speaker 14: local and brilliant like actually reassuring that there's hopes for
Speaker 14: the oceans here because there's a lot of salvaging that's
Speaker 14: got to be done and a lot of changes. But
Speaker 14: hopefully with the Ocean Forum meeting somewhere in the world later,
Speaker 14: it'll change a few few habits and we'll save the ocean.
Speaker 14: So it's really it was really interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, and where did you go? What cinema
Speaker 2: do you go to?
Speaker 14: I go to Cronulla and I went on Tudor Wednesday
Speaker 14: Weddnesday this week, so good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, lovely. I'm glad you enjoyed it. There's nothing better
Speaker 2: than seeing on the big screen. I've just got to
Speaker 2: go and do it more. We've got to support the cinemas.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Karen. Love to hear from me. Hello, Mike.
Speaker 15: Michael, Yes, mate, Yeah, my wife and I don't go
Speaker 15: to the movies very often, but a few weeks ago
Speaker 15: we did make an exception because we're great fans of
Speaker 15: a fantastic online streams series called Chosen, which is about.
Speaker 16: The life of Jesus Christ and the producers decided to
Speaker 16: sort of binge release the entire fifth season on over
Speaker 16: sort of one weekend, so my wife and I sat
Speaker 16: through two three hour blocks almost consecutively. I think it
Speaker 16: was at weather or Parks Cinema and it was quite
Speaker 16: a pretty heavy going. But they are going to release
Speaker 16: I think this month they're releasing it on pay per view,
Speaker 16: I think through Amazon, and then in our springtime they
Speaker 16: all released the entire season along with and the first
Speaker 16: four seasons are already available free online. You just just
Speaker 16: Google watch the Chosen and you can find them and
Speaker 16: watch them all free.
Speaker 2: Okay, fantastic. I'm glad you got to see it on
Speaker 2: the big screen. That sounds wonderful. Good on you, Mike,
Speaker 2: appreciate that. A couple of Texsi Brett says, last time
Speaker 2: I went to the movies over fifty years ago to
Speaker 2: see Charles Bronson. I wait till they come on free
Speaker 2: Way TV. Okay, Brett Edwards said, I haven't been to
Speaker 2: a cinema for forty years. Can I jim.
Speaker 5: Illo my talking bread, which is one of my favorite thirds.
Speaker 5: I am Maltese. I am Maltese by birth, and I've
Speaker 5: been back to Malta numerous times, and one of the
Speaker 5: delights of going back to Malta is to consume the bread.
Speaker 5: Malta has the best bread in the world. I tell
Speaker 5: you this quite solemnly, so much so that when she
Speaker 5: was living there as a young princess, Her Majesty the
Speaker 5: Late Queen absolutely adored Maltese bread. She was living there
Speaker 5: for two and a half years, and she loved it.
Speaker 5: I'm sure that when you got your Maltese listeners out there,
Speaker 5: they will be nodding their head.
Speaker 2: All right, well, I tell you what, Jim, you've thrown
Speaker 2: it out there. Let's see, I'll find out. I mean,
Speaker 2: Maltese a certainly wonderful cooks. I hadn't ever heard about
Speaker 2: how good a Teese bread was. I've heard about the bastitzis,
Speaker 2: and I've heard about the rabbit dishes and this, but
Speaker 2: I've never heard about the bread. So you're the first.
Speaker 2: I don't know any other Maltese people listening. Is is
Speaker 2: Jim true saying the right thing? Maltese bread is the
Speaker 2: best bread in the world. And I sa the French
Speaker 2: would say call themage we do a good bigett, but
Speaker 2: I don't. Maybe I've never been to balder I don't
Speaker 2: know one three, one eight seven three. It's that time
Speaker 2: of the afternoon.
Speaker 1: Time to find out what's coming up on Sydney.
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Speaker 2: Well this man, I'll be with you straight after the
Speaker 2: three o'clock years. Clinton Maynard, Good afternoon, Ho, Michael. Do
Speaker 2: you ski?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 8: It's the first weekend of the ski seasons. We're going
Speaker 8: to get into the Snowy Mountains to start the program,
Speaker 8: and y better get going.
Speaker 2: You only got twenty nine quantum tunneling with Have you.
Speaker 8: Ever been skiing or snowboarding?
Speaker 2: Not skiing? No, I've done to and also but I
Speaker 2: just know that it wouldn't end well, so I don't
Speaker 2: do it. Are you coordinated? Not particularly No, And as
Speaker 2: soon as sort of skis are on, absolutely not so No,
Speaker 2: I just know ook.
Speaker 8: I've been on quite a few occasions, but mostly in summer.
Speaker 8: Has not been to the Stowy Mountains for various A
Speaker 8: lot of flies, a lot of flies, a few bushfires
Speaker 8: over the years that I've reported on down there. But
Speaker 8: I've never actually placed skis on my feet.
Speaker 2: Okay, well it makes two of it. No, I've never
Speaker 2: put skis on my feet grass skiing. Have you done that?
Speaker 11: No.
Speaker 8: Jamburu Recreation Bark or Jambrew is one of the most
Speaker 8: popular theme parks in the city. That was a grass
Speaker 8: skiing resort and my parents went through a phase in
Speaker 8: the nineteen eighties. They decided to take up grass skiing
Speaker 8: and you put all these toboggan type things on your
Speaker 8: feet and you roll down the hill.
Speaker 2: Well, the royals at those ski resorts as well.
Speaker 8: I'd think so, so I had more experience going grass
Speaker 8: skiing than.
Speaker 2: We should have little blades on them so you can
Speaker 2: mow the lawn as you go down. That's a good idea.
Speaker 2: Two for one.
Speaker 8: That's a very I don't think they still have the
Speaker 8: grass skiing at the Jambree Recreation part. They still have
Speaker 8: the toboggan ride, and that's the boggan ride was the
Speaker 8: second they started with the grass and the toboggan. I know,
Speaker 8: I'm diverting from what I was talking about, just off
Speaker 8: from a bit of a tangent. So it's the opening
Speaker 8: week of this because you said, what are you talking about?
Speaker 8: What's the King's birthday? Long weekend?
Speaker 2: Oh, you keep reminding me because you're not working on Monday.
Speaker 2: I think it's about the fourth time you've raised this.
Speaker 2: I haven't raised our air well, no, just off it's
Speaker 2: living excited to tell the listeners. Every about half an hour,
Speaker 2: he pops his head on. Now, just are you working
Speaker 2: on my years?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 8: Sorry forgot rub it in anyway, Well, Continuous Call team
Speaker 8: they'll be filming in for you. Expected about maybe potentially
Speaker 8: there's some hopes of seventy thousand people. Wonderful On Monday afternoon,
Speaker 8: you'll hear a full broadcast with the Continuous Call Team
Speaker 8: so that we know to sitt in AUP. So we'll
Speaker 8: go down and check what's happening with the snowy mountains.
Speaker 2: This weekend.
Speaker 8: We'll be talking beef on the program Donald Trump and
Speaker 8: also end of year, end of financial year's sales. Yep,
Speaker 8: the bargain's actually real or no? No, well, it depends
Speaker 8: what you're probably after.
Speaker 2: Things are on soil all the time. I don't know
Speaker 2: about maybe cars could be different cars, I think maybe,
Speaker 2: But by and large, if you're after a book or
Speaker 2: clothing or electronics. They've got to sale every second week.
Speaker 8: But back in the day there was there were only
Speaker 8: two sales year with Grace Brothers. Yeah, the Grace you
Speaker 8: have the Grace Brothers midyear sale. Sorry for those that
Speaker 8: new to the scene, maya these days Grace Brothers mid
Speaker 8: year saling and Grace Brothers box January side. Yeah, boxing
Speaker 8: dust and that was it. But you're walk into minds.
Speaker 8: So it is on salary.
Speaker 2: Well online see online shoppings change the world.
Speaker 8: Yeah, well we'll talk about talk about sales as well.
Speaker 2: Good, okay, thank you Clinton. Clinton. Mayner was Sydney now
Speaker 2: straight after three. You won't hear him on Monday, and
Speaker 2: he'll probably remind us a few more times about that
Speaker 2: between now and when we go home. You see, he
Speaker 2: needs his beauty sleep. So it's all about it's all
Speaker 2: about health and safety and whatever. Aaron mar Good afternoon.
Speaker 9: Good afternoon. Michael. Accused killer Aaron Patterson has told the
Speaker 9: jury and her murder trial it's possible she access posts
Speaker 9: about death cap mushroom sightings. The Prime Minister says he'll
Speaker 9: only consider relaxing rules around beef imports if the nation's
Speaker 9: biosecurity can be guaranteed. The Premier says the passing of
Speaker 9: Joe's Law will ban the future privatization of public acute
Speaker 9: hospitals to improve patient outcomes. And David Beckham is reportedly
Speaker 9: set to receive a knighthood in the UK's King's Birthday honors.
Speaker 9: He'll become Sir David, with Victoria to become Lady Beckham.
Speaker 9: In Sport, Night's coach Adam O'Brien is apologized to the
Speaker 9: club's fan base after blasting them for booing his players.
Speaker 9: Down sixteen nil to Manley at halftime, Newcastle players were
Speaker 9: jeered by their home crowd before winning twenty six twenty
Speaker 9: two in Golden Point. And there'll be more news at three.
Speaker 1: O'clock on afternoons. A finance update for Pretzel Wealth and
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Speaker 2: All Right Friday Finance. It is Scott Phillips from the
Speaker 2: Motley Fool with us fool dot com dot au Scott.
Speaker 2: It appears that Tesla's shares have taken a tumble.
Speaker 6: Michael godaf lerne abb abolutely have by fourteen percent, which
Speaker 6: sounds a lot in percentages. Waiting to get the real numbers.
Speaker 6: One hundred and fifty two billion dollars worth of that
Speaker 6: you lost in six and a half short trading hours
Speaker 6: off your stock market overnight on the back of this
Speaker 6: increasingly ugly spat between Musk and President Trump basically both
Speaker 6: taking potshelts to each other now on their respective soxual
Speaker 6: media platforms, Trump on truth on X. Of course, it
Speaker 6: would be funny if it wasn't the world's most richer world,
Speaker 6: bridges man and a letder of the free world. But
Speaker 6: that's where we find ourselves as a result of potentially
Speaker 6: Donald Trump having a go and it must have a
Speaker 6: go back or vice versa. Trump has decided to remove
Speaker 6: EV tax credits. That is going to hurt Tesla's sales,
Speaker 6: simply makes them more expensive for potential buyers in the US,
Speaker 6: that is. And then as a result, and in response
Speaker 6: must say, well, maybe I won't. Let's use my rockets
Speaker 6: to follow your astronauts to space. A lot more probably
Speaker 6: going to come out about that at the next twenty
Speaker 6: four to forty eight hours, but at the moment that's
Speaker 6: the issue, the real issue for Tesla shareholders, and this
Speaker 6: is a bit of a kick in the pants for
Speaker 6: Tesla share as they had for ages said to look
Speaker 6: at Earlin, can you please stop doing so much stuff
Speaker 6: with the government, can and actually run the car company's
Speaker 6: supposed to be running. He said, finally said yeah, okay,
Speaker 6: I'll give up. I'll stop doing that and I'll come
Speaker 6: back to the car company. That in theory should have
Speaker 6: been good news for the shares. But this bat that's
Speaker 6: eventuated means not only was he out of business, we're
Speaker 6: not paying much attention to the company for a few months.
Speaker 6: When he does come back the shell, we're going to
Speaker 6: whack because Elon's made Donald Trump upset. And we know
Speaker 6: that Donald Trum give me a little bit of petuous
Speaker 6: from time to time, and both men famously have very
Speaker 6: very very glass jaws, and so yes, a bit a
Speaker 6: bit of insult flying and Antesla shall wearing one hundred
Speaker 6: and fifty billion dollars worth of paint as a result.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the big boys throwing the big toys out of
Speaker 2: the big cots. That's as happening exactly. Yeah, the markets and.
Speaker 6: The dollar here markets unfortunate, not having a great day.
Speaker 6: We're in positive territory through the morning, but we've dipped
Speaker 6: in a negative territory. This afternoon off by about two
Speaker 6: tenths of a percent. At the moment, we're currently eighty
Speaker 6: seven hundred and forty nine points. And then while the
Speaker 6: dollar is a bit mixed against the major currencies, but
Speaker 6: up against the US dollar back over sixty five cents,
Speaker 6: up two tenths to sixty five point zero three US.
Speaker 2: That's just interesting. Before you go, Scott that the actual
Speaker 2: story that should have been economically relevant today was Trump
Speaker 2: and G of China had a phone call apparently that
Speaker 2: went quite well, and that was about tariffs and Russia. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the stock market should absorb Benzo. That's kind of good.
Speaker 2: But then of course along comes this and you know,
Speaker 2: I mean, who knows what's coming now?
Speaker 6: And that's honestly, that is the story of the Trump
Speaker 6: presidency so far is we're kind of learnching from headline
Speaker 6: to headline. You're right, though, And look for long term investors.
Speaker 6: That's the other thing. Maybe not Tesla Shells, but everybody else.
Speaker 6: If all is going to be selling more baked beans
Speaker 6: and toilet paper in five years than today, and they
Speaker 6: were more profitably than today, we really shouldn't get caught
Speaker 6: up in what is theatrics, I mean, really serious public
Speaker 6: policy stuff. But as investors, unless it's going to dent
Speaker 6: permanently the value of a company you shared your own,
Speaker 6: you could probably afford to take an interest on a
Speaker 6: policy ground and a public public interest of public good ground.
Speaker 6: But as an investor, separate those two things out, because
Speaker 6: if it doesn't impact your company permanently, it is just
Speaker 6: noise on the way through.
Speaker 2: And I guess the markets have decided that in the
Speaker 2: battle between Trump and Musk, Trump is going to win
Speaker 2: so far.
Speaker 6: That's well, he gets to pull the tax credits away,
Speaker 6: and let's se this side to change your mind to
Speaker 6: put them back. That's a permanent damage to Tesla ship. Brother,
Speaker 6: That's exactly the story, right, they'll be pure cars sold.
Speaker 6: Those that are sold will cost their buyers more. And yeah,
Speaker 6: so it's not permanent, semi permanent, longer term damage to
Speaker 6: Tesla as a result of the car's being more expensive.
Speaker 6: From here on.
Speaker 2: It all right, great to talk, have a good weekend
Speaker 2: and we'll catch you. I think on Monday. It's a
Speaker 2: public holiday. Are you with us, Scott?
Speaker 6: I will be here absolutely.
Speaker 2: You're a trooper. Well done Clinton. I don't have a
Speaker 2: jack to Clinton of any Thank you, Scott, Scotti Clinton,
Speaker 2: chief investment officer at the Motley fool full dot com
Speaker 2: dot au, will take a break calls after this eighteen
Speaker 2: to three. I think Tuesday is the day that the
Speaker 2: premiere of Tasmania, Jeremy Rockcliffe, will be asking for a
Speaker 2: new election. I don't think you can do it yet
Speaker 2: because my understanding is the governor's on leave. I think
Speaker 2: that's right that the governor's not back to work until
Speaker 2: Monday afternoon or Tuesday. I might be wrong, but I
Speaker 2: guess these things have to be done in person, and
Speaker 2: so I think that's why the delay on the email.
Speaker 2: Damien says, gree with you call one hundred percent. Malt
Speaker 2: Tease bread is the best bread in the world. I'm
Speaker 2: not mal Teese, but I love my bread and I've
Speaker 2: been to Mortal three times and every time I go,
Speaker 2: the bread is what I look forward to the most.
Speaker 2: Hello Mary, Oh, you've.
Speaker 18: Got a great program. That gentleman was right. Mal Teach
Speaker 18: bread is the best bread there is. It's not heavy
Speaker 18: when you eat it on your stomach, and the smell
Speaker 18: is designe. Maltese people don't eat a meal unless they
Speaker 18: have a bit of bread with it.
Speaker 2: Well, that's a nice idea. Why is it so good though?
Speaker 2: Is it the type of flour they use? What's the sud?
Speaker 18: It must be it must be the flow. I don't
Speaker 18: know because I came here very young, but I have
Speaker 18: them back there and it is. I don't know what
Speaker 18: it is that it makes it. You know, it's good
Speaker 18: for your stomach. It's not heavy, and it doesn't blow
Speaker 18: like make you blow it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of bread weat belly or whatever they call.
Speaker 18: It is very very very very nice.
Speaker 15: He was right.
Speaker 2: Well, you're backing him up, Mary, so we must be right.
Speaker 2: Thank you for the call. Have a lovely long weekend.
Speaker 4: Hello Pam, Hi Michael, how are you? That's great?
Speaker 3: Listen.
Speaker 4: I need to tell you, if you want you had
Speaker 4: a disaster with a bread machine, buy a Panasonic bread machine.
Speaker 4: I have five of them.
Speaker 2: You have five of them?
Speaker 4: Yes, two old ones are the originals. Then Panasonic went
Speaker 4: out of production and I was devastated. So when they
Speaker 4: came back on, I bought a new one, and then
Speaker 4: I have bought two others so that I have plenty
Speaker 4: of machines. I buy the bread mix from the local
Speaker 4: wholesaler and I will guarantee you that the Panasonic is brilliant.
Speaker 4: I had another machine which I bought, and I, like you,
Speaker 4: I made two house bricks.
Speaker 2: Yes, I readomb the foundations.
Speaker 4: With Yes, the same thing here. But you will never
Speaker 4: ever make a failure with Panasonic. The two old ones
Speaker 4: that I have. I make the dough and I make
Speaker 4: bread rolls, a pizza type thing which I've made today.
Speaker 4: You can do all sorts of things, but a Panasonic,
Speaker 4: I will guarantee. And I'm not on a commission. Might
Speaker 4: I say, I was going to ask.
Speaker 2: You when you're doing the cow bell? Okay, so I'm
Speaker 2: just trying to work out though, Pam. I agree. I'm
Speaker 2: sure Panasonic is brilliant. But you have five? Are you
Speaker 2: using all five at the same time?
Speaker 3: No, No, I used to it.
Speaker 4: I make two laves of bread at once, plain white,
Speaker 4: and then I make for myself Plaine for my husband,
Speaker 4: and I use the other one a sunflower seeds in
Speaker 4: the bread, yes, and I slice it up because we
Speaker 4: live out in the property out of town, and I
Speaker 4: freeze that and then I will make I'll make bread
Speaker 4: rolls whatever I need to make. I do that all
Speaker 4: the time.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, good on you, well done, Pam. Thank you
Speaker 2: for the call have a love weekend Panasonica. I'm going
Speaker 2: to have to maybe invest in one of those. This
Speaker 2: three from New South Wales Police. Three men have been
Speaker 2: charged after allegedly performing burnouts in Sydney's West last month.
Speaker 2: Police attached to Traffic and Highway Patrol Command commenced an
Speaker 2: investigation following reports of dangerous driving behavior in Bobbin Roads, Sadlier.
Speaker 2: That was back on Sunday, May twenty five. Following inquiries
Speaker 2: on Tuesday, a twenty seven year old man was issued
Speaker 2: a Field Court attendance notice for prolonged sustained loss of
Speaker 2: traction and drive recklessly, slash furiously or speed manner dangerous.
Speaker 2: That's all that police talk, but you get the gist.
Speaker 2: His license was suspended and the vehicle used in the
Speaker 2: alleged offense was impounded for three months now. He's going
Speaker 2: to appear before Liverpool Local Court on Wednesday, June twenty five,
Speaker 2: and following further inquiries, a fifty one year old woman
Speaker 2: has been charged with responsible person custodian not disclosed driver.
Speaker 2: She is due to appear in Liverpool Local Court on Wednesday,
Speaker 2: July twenty three. Officers are continuing there investigations to identify
Speaker 2: the owner and or driver of the third vehicle. It's
Speaker 2: there you go. That's the latest there Now, Bill says,
Speaker 2: whilst I'm sure Maltea's bread is nice, quote unquote, you
Speaker 2: can't beat a great Greek loaf of oh, here we go,
Speaker 2: here we go. See the Greeks claim they do everything
Speaker 2: the best. Now that in many cases they do, but
Speaker 2: it's just it's always what so this is from Billy.
Speaker 2: He says, you can't be the great Greek loaf of
Speaker 2: bread from the wood and oven with olive oil, olives
Speaker 2: and fetter. Well, you know, having just read that, it's
Speaker 2: probably it's probably right. I mean, that would be hard
Speaker 2: to beat. That would certainly be hard to beat. Elizabeth says,
Speaker 2: I've got a Sunbeam bread maker. It's my third best
Speaker 2: bread using Louc flour la UK. You can get that
Speaker 2: of Coles, I think, and she says, you're welcome to
Speaker 2: have it. We buy sour dough now as my husband
Speaker 2: isn't really allowed the carbs. But bread maker is the
Speaker 2: only bread my Conya eats. Conye is a We've got
Speaker 2: a little connue at home, a little sort of like
Speaker 2: a South American Laura keet. There you go. Hey, Elizabeth,
Speaker 2: that's very generous of you. Thank you for your text.
Speaker 2: But if I brought a breadmaker home, I think my
Speaker 2: wife would kill me. It's just what there's a bit
Speaker 2: like the Bible. There's no room at the inn, you know.
Speaker 2: It's just the place is full, sadly. But that's very generous, Elizabeth,
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. It's twelve minutes to three. We'll
Speaker 2: do track of the day right after this. Love it
Speaker 2: to be with you. Plenty of cloud out there now,
Speaker 2: does look like maybe bitter rain is on the way,
Speaker 2: just looking out to the west. We'll see what happens.
Speaker 2: It is nine minutes to three.
Speaker 17: Now one afternoon.
Speaker 2: Track of the day. All right, here we go. I've
Speaker 2: got a double pass to the Sydney Film Festival. Speaking
Speaker 2: of movies, So if you want to actually go to
Speaker 2: a movie, here's a good opportunity. You don't even have
Speaker 2: to pay for the ticket. One three one eight seven
Speaker 2: three A double pass to the Sydney Film Festival. A
Speaker 2: question for you, which I think is pretty straightforward today.
Speaker 2: Which entrepreneur made his first pair of blue jeans on
Speaker 2: this day back in eighteen fifty. Which entrepreneur made his
Speaker 2: first pair of blue jeans on this day in eighteen fifty.
Speaker 2: If you know his name, one three one eight seven
Speaker 2: three first one three is off to the Sydney Film Festival.
Speaker 2: This will help you think hodads time.
Speaker 7: But he can't sing and dancing in can.
Speaker 19: What long as I can have you here with me
Speaker 19: and the traveler beans in blue jeans? Beard sweet, then
Speaker 19: fing next to venistreet. If your pardon me, I said
Speaker 19: window can rever in blue jeans.
Speaker 5: That's name.
Speaker 12: It's night.
Speaker 2: Long nothing all right, I reckon We'll get a winner.
Speaker 2: No more calls Jeff, who are we after? What's the name? Jeff?
Speaker 2: Are you there? Yep, mate? What's the yep?
Speaker 12: Lee by Stroud?
Speaker 2: Correct AMNDO. Well done, Jeff, You're off to the Sydney
Speaker 2: Film Festival. Hang on there, mate, we'll grab your details
Speaker 2: and of course the Sydney Film Festival. Wonderful, wonderful event,
Speaker 2: A bold, inspiring cinema from around the world. June fourth
Speaker 2: to fifteenth, s if if dot org dot are you
Speaker 2: jesus just actually during the ad break, they're watching a
Speaker 2: few replays from the Rugby League Last Night, the Nights
Speaker 2: and the Manly Sea, because that was a heck of
Speaker 2: a game. I got most of the second half. Of course,
Speaker 2: Manly led. It was sixteen Neil, wasn't it halftime? And
Speaker 2: then Newcastle roared back and Manly scored under the post,
Speaker 2: and then Newcastle scored again and again and that try
Speaker 2: at the end for Ponger. They won and the Newcastle
Speaker 2: fans and Noverocastrians that loyally turned up were rewarded with
Speaker 2: the great finish. So well under them there'd been no
Speaker 2: all sorts of strife. The coach would have been under
Speaker 2: enormous pressure, but they produced last night. It was a
Speaker 2: great game of rugby league for Thursday night. And looking
Speaker 2: forward to the rest of the round, including the Tigers
Speaker 2: and the Panthers from Combank on Sunday. I think that's
Speaker 2: four o'clock that one. Next week, when we get the time,
Speaker 2: we'll have a chat about Justices of the peace JP's
Speaker 2: there's a story in the ABC coming out of Victoria,
Speaker 2: but I would imagine it's probably universal across Australia that
Speaker 2: there simply are too few justices of the peace available
Speaker 2: for the booming population. Obviously, a JP is an authorized
Speaker 2: person who witnesses or certifies documents their birth certificate, statuary declarations, wills,
Speaker 2: this sort of thing. But in Victoria there's only three thousand,
Speaker 2: six hundred and ninety nine registered jps, and the bulk
Speaker 2: of those are in metropolitan Melbourne, twenty two hundred and
Speaker 2: twenty nine of them just in Melbourne. So for the
Speaker 2: rest of the state not many left. Fourteen hundred and
Speaker 2: seventy across all of regional Victoria and they serve a
Speaker 2: total population of six and a half million people. Now
Speaker 2: people say, even here in Sydney often oh, where do
Speaker 2: I I can't find a JP? Where's a JP? I mean,
Speaker 2: my late father was a JP. But one of the
Speaker 2: problems in Victoria seems to be that many of those
Speaker 2: that are old are now dying obviously, and they're not
Speaker 2: being replaced by younger people. So how do we get
Speaker 2: the numbers of jps up if indeed we need to,
Speaker 2: We'll have a look at that at some point next week.
Speaker 2: Thank you for your company, Enjoy your long weekend if
Speaker 2: you're having one, and I'll be here Monday with you.
Speaker 2: Look forward to having a chat. Then five an hour