WEBVTT - Words with Kel Richards – 29th May 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:14.960 It soundly and now on Night's Words with Cal Richards, 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:18.239 who gently reminded me, of course I knew it, but 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:20.200 I didn't actually say it. He is the late Sir 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:23.680 Redmond Hillary. Now, but yeah, great man. I shouldn't clarified 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:25.560 that it sort of didn't sound right, did it. But 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:29.120 there's some funny stories about surre Redmond Hillary. Apparently, I've 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:31.760 known some. I won't say anything because it might sound 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:34.239 like some sort of commercial thing, but I put it 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:36.560 this way. I know a couple of sponsors who've worked 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:38.879 with certinmun Hillary and asked him to promote their products, 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:41.839 and I've just heard these stories over the years, and 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:45.319 they said he was the nicest, most humble person. They 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:49.239 were shocked that such a famous man could be so 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:51.440 humble to work with. Hello, kel By the way, speaking 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:53.279 of humble legends. 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:55.680 Good evening, Good evening. It's nice to be here, and 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:58.800 I feel humble in every way. There was a show 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:02.600 in which there was a so called lord. It's hard 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:04.800 to be humble when you're perfect at every way. Well, 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:05.360 it's the show. 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:08.040 It's just about to ask you the same question. Someone 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:10.199 will know one three, one eight seven three or zero 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:12.479 four six zero eight seven three A's everything I can 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:15.160 hear it. My's hiring to be humble when you're perfect 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:16.520 in every the song. 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:17.440 That's the song. 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:19.360 Oswords dot com dot you. Of course, if you want 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:22.000 to dig more into this, Kel also has the daily newsletter. 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:24.000 You can have it for free, so subscribe go to 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:27.760 Osward's dot com dot au and don't forget anything, any 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:32.360 language issues, any phrases, any comments. It can be origins 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:35.720 as we already have a question about Kel, and we'll 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:37.959 we'll also deal with the emails that we've had in 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:40.759 the last week or so too, because quite often Kell 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:44.920 has to do some serious investigative reporting on some of 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:47.360 these things. And there's some beauties I can see on 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:49.000 the list, so we'll make sure we get to those. 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:52.920 But up front, Beverly wants to know and you know what, 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:55.720 this reminds me of the great comedian from the United States, 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:57.840 Paul Lynde, because she wants to know the origin of 0:01:57.880 --> 0:01:59.000 for Pete's. 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:02.680 Sake, Okay, for Pete's sake, in that it's one of 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:05.960 a group of phrases which are fairly similar. That form 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:08.919 of it, for Pete's Sake is recorded from nineteen oh three. 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:11.520 Few years later, was recorded as for the Love of 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:15.200 Pete Yes, and a variational was for the Love of Mike, 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:17.800 which is a little early from the eighteen nineties. The 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:21.000 best guess we have is all of them are softened blasphemies, 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:23.520 so all of them were for God's sake, for the 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:27.600 love of God, that they were all substituting something for that. 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:30.880 There's a wonderful story that circulated on the Internet claiming 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:36.640 it was Michael Angelo appealing for money for painting the 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:40.280 Sistine Chapel or something, and he was appealing for money 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:45.440 from Sir Peter's or for subpeters. It's all rubbish. That's 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:48.320 a lovely story, but it's all complete rubbish. It just 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:51.760 became a soft blasphemy in the late eighteen hundreds, and 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:53.639 that's where all the for Pete's sake, for the love 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:55.200 of Pete, for the love of Might come from. 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:57.520 You remember Paul Lynde and all. He was on different 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:00.960 game shows, and he did a whole lot of voiceover 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:01.639 work as well. 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:05.560 Oh, for a beat's sake, I remember him working with 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:06.480 Carol Burnett. 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:09.640 I think, yes, yes, we had that show in Australia, 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:10.200 didn't we care. 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:13.000 Carol Berner popular very funny. 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:17.120 Yeah, yeah, one of the great early female comedians, or 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:19.360 comedy ends as they used to be called, with two. 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:21.480 Ends and an e yes. Do they still do that? 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:24.079 There's a word well or was that just a made 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:24.760 up word to soon? 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:25.000 No? 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:28.040 No, it was a real word. But we are told 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:30.840 not to use gender language. So there are no actresses anymore. 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:34.720 There's only actors. And we wouldn't talk about an aviator. 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:36.520 That's a very dated word. But if we did, you 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:40.840 couldn't call a woman and Avia tricks, which she would 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:44.280 have been called years ago. So those gendered words tend 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:46.640 to be largely dying. I suspect. 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:51.480 Good point, and that's a no brainer, I think given 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:53.600 the current climate. No brainer is one that we had 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:56.480 an email about kel So that's first on your list 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:58.440 of emails, by the way, one three one eight seven 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:00.840 three or zero four six zero eight seven three eight 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:02.800 seven three on the text line, don't leave it to 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:03.800 the last minute, please. 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:06.840 I think the bloke who emailedus was Martin, I think 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:09.800 was his name, and Martin was worried that it was 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:13.880 really offensive. It was saying people, it's really insulting people 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:16.560 who got very low IQs or disabled or something or 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:22.120 rather or mentally struggling. He named as an example, I've 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:25.160 got no idea why Joe Biden, and he said, it's 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:28.640 just a very rude expression. It's actually not. It's American 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:33.520 and Americans coined nineteen fifty nine somewhere around there. And 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:36.599 it's the idea that something is obvious. It's not a 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:39.760 comet about a person. It's a comment about an idea 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:42.240 or a judgment. And it's an idea or a judgment 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:45.359 which is obvious. It is so obvious you can just 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:47.920 see it. You don't need to put your brain into gear. 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:51.000 It is a no brainer. So Martin, don't worry. It's 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:53.159 not an offensive expression. You can use it. 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:55.800 Yes, I couldn't agree more. I've always thought of it 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:57.919 that way too. It's about not using your brain, not 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:00.839 suggesting you don't have one. That's right, Alan, I beg 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:04.040 to differ, even though Harvey Corman and Tim Conway, I'm sure, 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:07.159 said Alpha Pete's sake quite a lot. Paul Lind is 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:10.240 synonymous with it. He says it's not, but he is 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:14.279 vampi campy. Paul Lind asks why do bikis wear black 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:17.480 leather because chaffon crumples so badly, says David, thank you. 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:20.520 I can just imagine him saying that, let's go back 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:22.360 to the list one three one eight seven three if 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:23.960 you have a call, if you want to get on 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:26.440 the text line at zero four six zero eight seven 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:29.360 three eight seven three, Done and dusted. This is one 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:30.760 of our email conundrums. 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:34.440 This is an interesting one. It's only recorded in nineteen thirty, 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:36.680 although my guess would be it comes from earlier in 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:41.479 the twentieth century, just in the in print until nineteen thirty. 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:44.640 And there are a bunch of theories, none of them 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:47.320 very persuasive. The one that I think is the most 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:51.560 likely source is there was a time when sawdust was 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:55.560 sprinkled on the floor of some places to catch spills 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:57.720 and drips and so on, and then swept up at 0:05:57.720 --> 0:05:59.400 the end of the day and a new lot put out. 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:05.039 This is my guess that the junior, the apprentice, the person. 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:08.680 Pubs did that, and butcher shops did that. If you 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:12.279 remember the sawdust in pubs and butcher shops, which the 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:14.800 younger generation would be amazed to think you'd walk into 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:16.560 a pub of this sawdust on the floor or a 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:20.320 butcher shop. Anyway, it did happen pardonly it really did. 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:23.719 I think at the end of the day the blaker 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:25.880 had to do it. The assistant of the apprentice would 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:28.520 clean the place up, then sprinkle the sawdust for the 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:32.480 next day he was done and dusted, right, That's where 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:34.760 I think it comes from, the sawdust on the floor. 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:37.560 That makes sense. Now Alan's explained himself here. He meant 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:40.560 to say Harvey Korman and Tim Conway were on the 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:43.600 Carol Burnett's show, not Paul ind I just did a 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:46.480 quick google. Alan paul In definitely was on a number 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.200 of Carol Burnet episodes. But I'll bow to your better 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:51.760 judgment than he may not have been a regular, We'll 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:53.800 put it that way. So I think we might have 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:57.760 come to an agreement on that. Well, better go to 0:06:57.760 --> 0:06:59.400 a break. We'll do that. We've got a couple of 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:02.080 calls waiting, thank you, hanging there please. We've got more 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:04.760 stuff on the text line as well, pouring in. It's 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:07.600 eighteen past ten, twenty one past ten words with Kel 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:10.320 Richards and the calls of banking up and some of 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:12.840 the text messages. Let's get into it. Pam, good evening to. 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:18.080 You, good evening, Bill and kill I was doing a puzzle, 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:22.880 and one of the answers was do daddy. I've just 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:26.520 looked it up. Can you please explain. I don't even 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:26.960 know the. 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:30.640 Meaning of it, do daddy. Oh well, let me tell 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:33.600 you something. The Oxford English Dictionary has never heard of it. 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:37.200 You sure you don't mean do dad? Like you know 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:40.720 little do dad? Over there? That's an expression of here. 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:45.520 It was actually D double o da double D. 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:47.920 Why when D double o. 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:52.600 D A double D? Why? 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:59.160 Right? Okay? Now the Oxford still hasn't heard of it. No, no, no, no. 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:01.800 If the ox It hasn't heard of it, then either 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:04.640 A it's not a word, or B it's not an 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:05.360 important word. 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:06.480 What about do dad? 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:09.680 I don't know. If do dad isn't there, we can 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:10.160 find out. 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:12.640 I've heard the expression do dad as referring to some 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:15.680 kind of little thing, A little do dad. Yeah, what's 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:18.920 that do dad? Hanging around your neck? That type of thing? Yeah, Pam, 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:19.760 you've heard do dad? 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:24.560 Surely yes, the Oxford, the Oxford knows do dad from 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:29.240 nineteen twenty A thing of me? I think that's their definition. 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:31.400 I'm telling you, isn't that funny? It's an under think 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:33.920 of me. It's got do dad is Yeah, Pam, I 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:35.160 hope that helps. 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:38.040 No, it doesn't because we didn't find an answer, so 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:40.200 it doesn't help, Pam. But take it for calling. 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:41.400 Thank you. 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:46.280 We're all in blissful ignorance about do daddies. You could 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:51.160 take that anywhere, really, couldn't you. Gary's on the line, Hello, Gary, Ohio. 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:53.480 Bill and kill I'm love you show. 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:57.160 I look forward to it every week. I'm sure he 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:59.520 can probably help me. The origin of the word. 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:03.240 Bonza, Oh okay, it's Australian. It was coined in the 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:08.680 eighteen eighties and it's the best guess is Australians cooked 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:10.720 it up in the bush out of a couple of 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:13.880 foreign words. One is the French word bond, which means 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:17.640 good bo n, and the other is the Spanish word bonanza, 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:22.040 which means a good find, a good discovery. And the 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:25.160 assumption is that there were several ways of saying it 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:28.880 and spelling it in the early days Bonster, Bonster. These 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:31.880 are recorded very early in the piece. If you look 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:34.600 at the old bulletin magazine you'll find these odd sort 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:37.480 of spellings. Then it's settled down to being bonza, and 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:40.120 was pronounced and written as bonza, but it was simply 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:44.920 concocted out of Australian verbal inventiveness using bits of two 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:45.920 foreign languages. 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:52.079 Thank you very much, logic answer yes, thank you, bonds. 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:54.120 A call gaz, thank you for that. 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:55.920 There is a board game called do Daddy. 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:57.240 Ah. 0:09:57.240 --> 0:09:58.840 That's probably where I just. 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:01.160 Asked, mister Google the dice game. 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:03.520 She did refer to a board game. I think when 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:06.640 she first asked about it. It's just a made up 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:11.800 just a mate copyright. Yeah, someone would own it. Tim 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:14.280 is on the line with a really tricky one. I 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:16.240 think a lot of journalists come to grips with this 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:19.480 on daily basis. Hello, Tim, that's probably. 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:22.280 Where I heard it from. 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:24.839 I'm wanting to know it's the right word. 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:28.319 Disoriented or disorientated. 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:31.920 Yeah, I'm sorry. I've got bad news for you. 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:32.440 It's both. 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:35.760 They are both. Yes, they're both in the Oxford they're 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:40.440 both equally accepted. Strictly speaking, I suppose disoriented would be 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:44.800 more accurate. Disorientated comes later, and it is a back 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:49.839 formation from disorientation. So orient originally meant looking east, That's 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:52.360 what the word means, and then it meant, you know, 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:55.440 pointing in a particular direction or focused in a particular direction, 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:58.800 and if you're not focused in any direction, you are disoriented. 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:03.480 Now that led Ryan, that gave rise to constructions of it, 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:08.079 one of which was orientational disorientation. And while people were 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:11.480 talking about being oriented or disoriented as a back formation 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:18.880 from orientation, disoriented, orientated or disorientated was constructed. That happened 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:21.440 in the early eighteen hundreds. So it happened a long 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:24.880 time ago. And what happens is if they start being 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:27.520 used in the English language, they become part of the 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:31.439 English language. So both words with exactly the same meaning 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:34.520 are acceptable these days. 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:36.280 Fantastic, thank you, thank you. 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:38.880 I hope that helps. I caught a flight from Asia 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:41.680 to Australia. I was disoriented. 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:44.559 You were deoriented. 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:46.920 I felt disoriented. 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:49.760 Though, yes, all right, all. 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:51.680 Right, I shouldn't be going on side tracks because we 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:53.319 have a lot of text to get through kem and 0:11:53.559 --> 0:11:56.640 the jokes are really bad by now. I'll get him 0:11:56.640 --> 0:12:01.360 angry if I keep going. Not likely, is Freddie. Regarding 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:02.400 blind Freddie. 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:04.720 Says, ray, oh, look, there are theories about this, and 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:07.120 the one that most of the dictionaries publishes that there 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:09.320 was a blind beggar in Sydney in the early years 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:13.280 of the twentieth century, so early nineteen hundreds, who was 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:16.000 well known around Sydney and who was known as Blind Freddie. 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:18.960 I've got this lovely theory of mine, which no one 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:22.920 else supports, and for which I found no documentary evidence, 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:25.679 but I think it goes back about fifty years earlier 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:29.440 than that, and was Sir Frederick. Sir Frederick Pottinger. Sir 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:33.160 Frederick Pottinger was an English baronet, young man in his twenties, 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:35.280 who was set out here by his family because he 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:39.360 disgraced himself back at home, and because this baronet with 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:41.960 the title arrived in New South Wales, he was appointed 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:45.360 to be head of a patrol of troopers to find 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:49.400 Ben Hall. Well, of course Ben Hall the master of 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:53.240 the bush and the bush that was filled with his friends. 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:57.560 Sir Frederick didn't have a chance, so he never found him. 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:00.880 And I would like it to be the case that 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:02.800 he was the original Blind Freddie. 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:07.200 That's a good theory. That's a good theory. Brett wants 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:10.640 to know about fully sick Broull is one of the 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:12.160 things kids say these days. 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:17.720 Yeah, ask a kid look fully sick bro I'm sorry, 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:22.240 ask a twelve year old. Yeah, nowadays, kids use sick 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:28.559 to mean good. Bro is a Black American abbreviation of brother. 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:32.760 Why any white Australian would say bro? I have no idea. 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:35.640 I don't care. If they're only fifteen, they should know better. 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:39.480 It belongs in the ghettos and America American street language. 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:40.920 I think it's really stupid here. 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:43.680 It's picked up a lot, though, I hear it a lot. 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:46.240 Yeah, yeah, Oh, there's lots of idiots around, so that's 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:47.679 why you've heard it a lot, because there's a lot 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:51.640 of stupid people around. But it's a stupid expression. So 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:54.240 that's where the bro comes from. It's just nuts and 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:56.560 sick means sick. Is one of these things where it 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:59.040 was originally negative and the kids use it to mean good. 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:01.040 So fully sick just means really good. 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:03.000 It's gone out of my head. But there is a word, 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:05.720 is there not for using a word that's the opposite 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:06.920 of the meaning you're expressing. 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:08.400 What is that? Antony? 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:11.520 Music and anthony antonym Because when you say something sick 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:14.959 to say it's good, or if you say something's if 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:19.080 you're being sarcastia. Yeah, yeah, it's probably just sarcasm. It's 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:23.200 just very bad swaying anyway, Peter won't call them actors 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:24.040 an actress. 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:29.120 Not calling them bro. That's a really really silly word, Paul. Sorry, 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:30.760 you got me started now you shouldn't have got me 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:34.640 onto this. It really is an idiotic word. It's an 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:39.400 really silly expression. What about brother, Oh, brother's okay, Yeah, 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:40.320 brother's fine, brother. 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:41.480 I noticed that's catching on. 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:44.240 Yeah, oh well among Christians it's been used for about 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:46.840 two thousand years. Good morning brother, Good morning sist. So 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:53.120 that's not new, that's fine, but bro, spare spare me days. 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:58.280 Paul lind also played Uncle Arthur in the sixties TV 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:01.360 show Bewitched with Elizabeth Montgomery. Thank you, Fred, yes he did. 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:05.240 How come we can have a waiter and a waitress, 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:07.920 asks Anna, but not an actor and an actress. 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:10.360 Well, you can't have a waiter and a waitress anymore. 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:13.560 They are now officially called weight persons. I know it's 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:16.960 stupid and it's a really really dumb construction in the 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:21.280 English language. But because the woke are bullies are therefore 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:25.200 people who employ persons to weight on tables have to 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:26.720 call them weight persons these days. 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:29.520 I don't mind flight attendant. A lot of the other 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:32.400 wokism irritate the heck out of me. But flight attendant, 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:34.720 I don't know. It seems to be nicely neutral. 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:38.000 No flight attendants not too dad dear, that's okay. 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:39.760 I can't think of any other stuff off the top 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:44.200 of my head. That actually all over, Red Raver asks 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:46.360 Scott had. 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:50.000 No idea, no idea. It's simply the kind the English 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:55.120 language likes. Expressions are phrases, idioms which contain rhythm and rhyme. 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:57.800 And any expression which contains rhythm and rhyme will be 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:00.520 taken up by the language, will be remembered by people, 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:04.400 be repeated by people all over. A Red Rover is 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:06.840 simply a rhyming way of saying it's over. It's nothing 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:10.680 more than that the creator was anonymous, and we don't 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:11.080 know when. 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:14.640 Now we'll go to the break with Jules, who sent 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:17.720 a text in expanding on our reference to oh lord, 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:20.280 it's hard to be humble. She says, Oh lord, it's 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:22.000 hard to be humble when you're perfect in every way. 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:24.040 I'm not going to sing it. I can't wait to 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:26.160 look in the mirror because I get better looking each day. 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:29.160 That's from mac Davis in nineteen seventy four. Thank you, Jules, 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:32.960 it's twenty four to eleven. Don't waste time. We've got 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:34.920 a lot to get through here. On the text line, 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:37.880 Kell and calls coming in too. Mark wants to know 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:41.760 when they say on the music shows and similar forums 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:46.240 their new album is dropping tomorrow. Why is it dropping? 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:49.600 I think that's an expression used in other forms, isn't 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:50.880 it or is it just music? 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:53.280 I don't know, just off the top of my hit, 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:55.560 I can't remember being used any world. It is simply 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:58.560 music people trying to be I mean, it's been released tomorrow, 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:01.440 is what's happening? Why you would choose to say it's 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:05.760 dropping tomorrow. I've got no idea. It's just music people 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:08.520 who don't speak English quite like the rest of us, 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:10.240 and they were really super cool. 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:13.719 Maybe in the old days when that the record moved 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:16.640 up and then dropped on the platter. Maybe maybe well 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:17.280 where it came from. 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:19.480 That's what they're not talking about. That they're talking about 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:21.680 it being released released the day it's released as the 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:24.320 day it drops, so it becomes available to the public 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:29.120 on that day. I can sort of under it's figurative language. 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:32.119 It's a metaphor. I could understand the figurative language. I 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:34.560 can understand the metaphor, and I suppose it's a bit 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:36.880 cooler them saying it's been released tomorrow. 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:40.639 This text has no name, but it says I remember 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:42.680 our male neighbor when he had a few too many 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:45.080 singing that song It's hard to be humble every weekend, 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:48.720 and he was no Brad Pitt. George is on the 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:50.480 line with the question, Hello. 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:55.760 George, look at ahl and join us thing tonight. I 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:58.880 know you were talking about do Daddy a few minutes ago, 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:02.000 and the first thing that came to mind were those 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:06.640 beach Party movies of the sixties with Frankie Avalon Annette Foncello, 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:09.960 and they used to have a character in those movies 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:13.800 called Big Daddy. And I think it's an African American 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:17.800 thing to tack on something to Daddy, you know, like 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:21.760 do Daddy and Big Daddy. And you might remember the 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:27.600 Yardbirds in the UK were a very famous sixties English group. 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:31.520 They made their name at the craw Daddy Club in 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:36.600 the UK. So it's I think it's a beatnik African 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:40.080 American thing that developed in the fifties and sixties. So 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:42.160 that's that's what came to mind. 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:45.959 Anyway, it became popular because Tennessee Williams used it in 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:48.280 one of his players, Cat on a Hot Tin Roof. 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:52.520 I think Burl Eives played Big Daddy in the movie, 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:57.000 I think. But it goes back to the late eighteen hundreds, 0:18:57.040 --> 0:19:00.919 eight and nineties anyone who was domineering. Actually, originally it 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:03.800 meant someone who was really sort of domineering and influential 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:07.400 was big Daddy. And it may go back to American 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:11.399 politics because American Tammany Hall politics was famously corrupt, and 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:13.560 there would be a big Daddy who called the shots 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:14.320 and ran the show. 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:17.040 Thank you, George, Is that your only question? 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:17.400 Yep? 0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:22.119 Well, well, actually the reason I called was, well, our 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:24.760 indigenous brothers and sisters or are always in the news, 0:19:24.800 --> 0:19:27.520 but just lately, and this is a thing you may 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:31.119 have dealt with before kill is our indigenous brothers and 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:35.359 sisters keep referring to themselves as our mob. And I 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:40.600 keep shaking my head because word mob is a pejorative term. 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:44.880 It's a negative term, and I can't understand why they 0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:48.720 keep refusing that word our mob. Oh. 0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:53.440 Quite often, terms which started off as prijority terms are 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:57.080 adopted by groups of people as positive terms. So when 0:19:57.119 --> 0:19:59.199 Methodists were first called Methodists, it was meant to be 0:19:59.240 --> 0:20:01.960 an insult, and they just took it up and said, yes, 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:05.640 we'll call ourselves Methodists, so that quite often happens. Mob 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:09.040 comes from the word mobile, so it means any any 0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:12.400 group of people or animals that can move, that can 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:15.280 move around. So that's where it originally came from. But 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:19.040 it's an English word. It's not an Aboriginal word, fairly obviously, 0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:21.320