WEBVTT - Perth Today with Simon Beaumont Podcast - Tuesday, 27 May 2025 0:00:03.360 --> 0:00:10.200 On Perth six PR. This is Perth Today with Simon Beaumont. 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:12.200 Yes, good morning. I hope you're going well. Thanks to 0:00:12.200 --> 0:00:14.840 Milsey and Carl and his hard working team for the 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:17.959 Brecky Show this morning. Thanks for listening in. We're here 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:20.000 until one o' quick. Love to hear from you. One 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:23.560 double three a two talk back radio station, talk back show. 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:25.880 Give us a call if you want to weigh in 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:28.520 on some of our topics or maybe even tell us 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:31.400 something you reckon. Your fellow six PR listeners should know 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:33.280 about all the people listening on the app today, and 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:35.680 I know there's a lot of you. Keep those texts 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:41.800 coming in zero four eight seven, triple nine a day two. 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:44.280 If you're like me and you're a parent and you've 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:49.400 got some either anxiety or ADHD type issues in your family, 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:53.280 I think it's I don't think i'm alone here. Anecdotally, 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:56.320 I feel that it's a bit of an industry ADHD 0:00:57.360 --> 0:00:59.360 and there's some new figures out showing that it's being 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:04.880 over diagnosed and you know, perhaps profit driven. So we'll 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:07.000 talk about that on the show today. I'm a parent 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:13.240 who's involved in this massive eighty eight DHD anxiety type 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:17.240 industry and it's not a blood test, it's a questionnaire 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:18.760 and we'll have a look at that on the program 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:22.440 a little bit later on today. It was last year 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:27.400 that the state government promised schools, local governments and community 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:31.319 groups seven million bucks to plant trees to replace trees 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:33.399 that have been knocked down because of the poly faker 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:37.840 shothole borer. No tree has been planted as yet. We'll 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:40.520 talk to Walga Karen Chapel a little bit later on 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:43.360 about all of that. When will that money be spent? 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:43.520 When? 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:45.959 What's the hold up? The Chief Economists of the Housing 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:49.080 Industry Association, Tim Ridden is jumping into the studio today. 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:52.120 We'll look at the housing, the current market, the strains 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:56.960 on the building industry, and the various backlogs thereof that's 0:01:57.000 --> 0:01:58.560 coming up in just a second, and I'm going to 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:01.480 speak to Rida Safiotti in just the moment about violence 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:05.720 at junior sport. And that's our yes no question today. 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:07.720 I wanted to try and clear something up straight away 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:09.600 if we could, right. 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:13.600 Let's clear this up once and for all. 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:17.120 So yes or no is the sideline behavior of parents 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:20.200 in junior sports still an issue. So there are these 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:26.160 allegations from a game of junior's football, junior soccer up 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:28.320 in Mindari on the weekend that a forty six year 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:32.040 old bloke from Whitford City Football Club allegedly has strangled 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:35.720 a player from the Mindari Footy Club Soccer club. And 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:39.360 I what are you seeing and hearing? Is the sideline 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:42.360 behavior of parents in junior sports still an issue? And 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:45.000 I'm not, sort of, I'm more interested in what you're 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:47.280 actually seeing if you're a parent, or a grandparent or 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:50.520 a cara of you know, a seven, eight, nine, ten 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:54.240 through to sixteen year old who's playing netball in the winter, 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:57.760 maybe playing footy, maybe playing rugby league, rugby union. What 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:00.799 are you seeing on the sidelines? Is the sideline behavior 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:02.840 of parents in junior sports still an issue? I'm not. 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:06.440 I'm probably more interested in what you're actually seeing rather 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:08.560 than what you're reading in the paper or hearing on 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:11.720 six PR or seeing on the TV. This is an 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:15.480 extreme example when sports stories go from the back page 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:18.320 to the front pages when they become news. It's a 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:23.400 concern now readers. Afioti is the sports minister, but she's 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:25.400 also a parent, and I'm going to talk to her 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:27.080 in those two capacities a bit later. 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:27.280 On. 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:31.000 I think at least one of reader's kids play soccer too. 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:34.600 So is the sideline behavior of parents in junior sports 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:36.800 still an issue? What are you's seeing? What are you noticing? 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:40.240 How is your sport handling it? All of the sports, well, 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:42.600 most of the sports sign up to true Sport, which 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:45.360 is the state government program. True Sport has an advisory 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:49.800 committee and tries to get essentially he tries to get 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:52.360 kids to enjoy sport, and they do look at the 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:55.560 behavior of parents as well, and of coaches and officials 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:57.600 and managers and the like. So what I try and 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:00.320 clear this up today for you is the side line 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:03.440 behavior of parents in junior sports still an issue? What 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:06.720 are you seeing? What are you hearing? Yes or no? 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:10.360 We'll keep a pole throughout the course of the show today. 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:13.480 Murray Watt was in Perth last week, as you know, 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:17.680 the Environment Minister, and he met with various people. We're 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:20.200 trying to find out who he met with. We understand 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:23.760 he has met with Roger Cook, the Premier, and this 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:28.960 is over the extension of the Woodside project up at 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:32.120 the bar up up at the Northwest Shelf. We're trying 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:34.320 to find out who he actually met with. Now either 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:39.800 through coincidence or fortuitously, a rock has emerged in the 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:45.080 argument which may have some bearing on what the industry 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:47.040 on the bar Up is doing to the rocks and 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:49.760 potentially to the rock art. So I'm going to talk 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:51.920 to Paul Garvey from The Australian in just a moment. 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:55.400 A small bit of rock has just has fortuitously come 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:58.880 to the surface and been revealed, and it seems to 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:03.280 indicate that there has been damage to the rocks at 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:05.279 the bar Up. So I'll get Paul Garby to explain 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:06.719 that to you in just a moment. But want to 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:10.640 try and clear this up from you today. Is a 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:13.120 sideline behavior of parents in junior sports still an issue, 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:17.400 got one, yes so far. This is the allegations that 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:19.720 are forty six year old man who'll have his day 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:24.200 in court strangled an eleven year old kid kids okay, 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:27.240 didn't require medical treatment, but strangled a kid from Mindari 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:32.120 on Sunday. Now both the both Football West Whitford City 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:35.080 Football Club and Mindari have moved pretty quickly on this 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:38.320 bloke and these are allegations. Only have his day in 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:43.320 court in June. But yeah, what are you seeing or 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:47.480 what's your understanding. Is sideline behavior by parents in junior's 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:51.080 sport still an issue? You've got one yes and one though. 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:54.800 We'll keep keep a tally of that poll as the 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:57.680 show goes on today. Thanks for listening to him. You 0:05:57.680 --> 0:06:00.360 can call us zero. You can text to zero four seven, 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:03.040 rip nine eighty two, or on this top you can 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:07.080 call us. What is your sport doing to improve parent behavior? 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:10.560 Is this a soccer issue? Is it a football issue? 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:13.640 Or is what's footy doing? What's netball doing? Netball? It's 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:15.839 pretty good, I reckon. Netball has a good code of behavior. 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:19.200 You know, the players clap when the other team scores, 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:23.520 scores a points, scores a goal. Netball, I reckons probably 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:26.440 in pretty reasonable shape. But what are you seeing at football? 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:30.400 At soccer, rugby league and rugby union? How the parents behaving? 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:33.359 It is not always the coach having been a manager 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:36.640 for seven or eight years. It's not always the coach 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:39.080 or the assistant coaches. It can be the parents that 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:41.400 behave badly. I'd love to hear from you one double 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:43.200 three A two, Give me a call. What is your 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:45.480 sport doing? What is your club doing? What are your 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:48.000 kids doing? What is your coach doing? What is your 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:50.800 manager doing and now are they signed up to the 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:53.720 True Sport initiative? Fourteen minutes past nine, we will take 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:57.680 a break. Thanks for listening. In today is yes, no question? 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:00.440 Is the sideline behavior of parents in junior sports issue? 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:03.359 What are you seeing? Is this is a yes no question? 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:07.359 Appearent from Whitford City Football Club is allegedly grabb an 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:11.080 eleven year old kid by the neck on Sunday And 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:12.800 from what I can gather these I think these are 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:16.000 called mini rus this competition, it's for under elevens and 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:19.680 under twelves. So the bloke you know, these are allegations 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:22.760 and this guy will have his day in court. Can't 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:25.280 do that. I wouldn't have thought one double three eight 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:28.160 Eddy two. Lots of texts coming in from our listeners. 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:30.800 Anthony says it's absolutely a massive issue. Is at a 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:34.080 game on the weekend and the local elite area of 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:37.960 football club close to the city lady team manager abusing 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:41.520 her own volunteer staff and was aggressive. Everyone's shocked and 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:44.400 it basically set the tone for the game. Not a 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:47.239 good look, says Anthony. This one here from Donna. Hello Donna. 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:50.760 Donna says, we watch our grandchildren every week and they're 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:53.360 still unacceptable behavior by parents and coaches, but it has 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:56.880 improved since our kids played. I'm still yes, says Donna. 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:00.720 Lots of correspondence coming in from our listeners today. So 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:03.880 what are you seeing and hearing? If you're a parent 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:06.320 of or a grandparent or a care of a kid 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:11.440 one double three eight eight two. Scott's phoned in high Scott, 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:12.880 How are you good? Mate? What have you seen? 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:14.760 Disclaimer? 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:17.920 I'm not concerning any behavior, but just a slightly different perspective. 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:20.200 I remember seeing in a junior footy game years ago, 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:23.360 years and years ago, a kid, fourteen year old kid 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:27.160 my size, six foot ninety cakes just beating another kid's 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:31.280 senseless that was much much smaller, And the father of 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:33.920 the kid being beaten up actually ran onto the field 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:35.920 hit the fourteen year old kid to get him off 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:41.320 his son, purely from prospective, you know, for protection. So 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:43.240 I kind of think, you know, I certainly don't think 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:45.640 it's the right thing to do, but you can see, 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:49.320 as a father myself, if you're seeing a kid getting 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:50.280 beaten sense. 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:53.120 You may react what sport mate? 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:58.680 Ifl yeah, okay, all right, yeah, no, that's we'll find 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:01.480 out what happened in this situation, and we don't know 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:04.920 a lot about it with the Mindari Whitford's thing, Scott. 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:07.160 But we'll know a little bit more, I think once 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:09.160 it gets to court. Thanks for your call, mate, Thanks 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:11.800 for chatting to us, Thanks for listening. Appreciated. One double 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:17.200 three A two basketball Still seeing ugly parents in basketball? 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:21.920 One double three two. I'll get to your correspondence today. 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:24.160 So we're doing a yes no today. Is sideline behavior 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:26.480 of parents in junior sport still an issue? What are 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:28.440 you seeing? The yeses are nine and the nose are 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:30.120 too well? 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:30.720 Murray? 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:33.720 What was in town last week? He's the environment minister. 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:36.760 He didn't get around to chatting to anybody on six PR, 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:39.839 but he spoke to some other media outlets and Murray, 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:42.480 what is expected to make a decision, an actual decision, 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:47.280 not delay the decision again on whether Woodside's lease will 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:50.199 be extended. This is at the bar up in the 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:52.760 northwest Shelby. It could happen this Saturday from what we're 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:54.880 here seeing and reading now. I don't know if this 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:58.719 is just a coincidence or for Tudor's timing, but a 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:02.000 UWA professor side of the existence of a rock that's 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:04.120 been sitting in a Melbourne office for some thirty years. 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:06.600 The rock is from the bar Up. Paul Garvey as 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:08.840 the story from the Australian joins us now goaday, Paul, 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:11.520 good to talk to you. Yeah good, so few too 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:12.800 tell us about this rock. 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:18.320 Look, So to go back a step, basically, since since 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:21.040 heavy industry opened up on the Barrock Peninsula or up 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:25.960 around dam Here Karata Way, there's been ongoing debate about 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:29.800 whether the emissions from that heavy industry was affecting all 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:33.199 the rock art that is throughout that area, and so 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:36.880 there's been a massive study going on for many years, 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:40.199 funded by the state government and Woodside to investigate whether 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:43.640 in fact those emissions are causing any damage or erosion 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:46.720 to the rock cart and the rocks that host that 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:51.080 rock art. The latest report from that came out late 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:56.560 last Friday. The summary of that said, look, nothing to 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:59.360 see here. We can see that there's been some damaged cause, 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:02.680 but we're comfortable that that damage was caused before that 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:06.160 industry as we know it today was in place, but 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:09.679 it was other facilities. The power station was up there 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:12.960 at that time that put out the pollution that caused 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:15.560 this damage. So we're happy with what's going on here, 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:17.880 and that was a really massive step for Murray Watt 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:22.160 to have that in his hands, for the federal government 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:24.240 to be able to go, Okay, we can go ahead 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:27.280 and approve this project knowing that we've got the scientific 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:31.120 all clear on the rock up That's where this UWA 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:35.040 professor steps in and says, guys, I've got this rock here, 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:38.640 which was actually taken from the borough in the early 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:42.400 nineties and has sat in this Melbourn office ever since. 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:47.320 So his argument is that if indeed it was emissions 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:51.600 from this power plant that was in place before the 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:55.319 current heavy industry came to the borough that caused the damage, 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:58.520 then that rock would show that damage as well. And 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:01.200 he's saying, look, we've studied this rock, we've looked at it. 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:03.040 We can see that there's none of that damage that 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:06.040 you're seeing up there today in this rock that was 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:08.760 taken from the nineties. So his argument really is you 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:13.040 can't believe that it was indeed those earlier missions that 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:15.840 caused the damage and not the current facilities. 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:19.440 So he's plenty of so by extension, Paul, he's calling 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:21.320 that report that we saw last week that you and 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:23.400 I read he's calling that into question. 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:27.559 Absolutely yes, and he says that this rock here is 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:30.520 the smoking gun that shows that some of the key 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:34.880 conclusions from that scientific study are off the mark. And 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:39.200 so every environmentalist, every activist who's been campaigning against this 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:41.280 project is going to seize on this and say, look, 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:43.520 Murray White is saying, you want to make a decision 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:46.800 based on the best science, on the top research, you 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:51.200 need to slow down and consider this alternative argument here. 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:54.439 I mean, and the professor says, there's some incredible science 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:57.360 that's been done by these researchers. There's a whole pile 0:12:57.400 --> 0:13:01.720 of data there, really important data. But you know that 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:03.839 is only I guess as good as the interpretation in 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:07.440 a lot of ways, and he's an alternative interpretation that really. 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:08.120 Needs to be considered. 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:12.400 And also I'm talking to Paul Garvey from the Australian Listeners. Paul, 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:15.480 also in your article you raise what I think is 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:18.520 an important point. This isn't This isn't Ben Smith from UWA. 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:20.840 This is not his research. This has been done elsewhere, 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:21.240 hasn't it. 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:24.800 Yeah, he's had some associations, but I think it's a 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:28.840 PhD student of his who's been working at the University 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:33.200 of Bond in Germany. The rock itself was collected by 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:38.280 Robert Bednrick, who is an absolute employent of that archaeological 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:44.480 profession and the Northwest Shelf region Jugga Peninsula. He was 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:47.320 sort of the godfather of archaeology in that area. He's 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:49.640 the one who took this rock thirty years ago and 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:54.480 had kept it meticulously in his office ever since. So 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:56.680 this rock was yeah, assessed as part of that PhD 0:13:56.960 --> 0:13:57.600 in Germany. 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:02.560 Yeah, all right, And interestingly, I mean it's a political 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:05.000 issue as well, Paul, as you and I know that 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:08.679 mister Albanisi and Murray wat said we'll make this decision 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:11.280 based on science and on data, you know, and they've 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:14.200 got that report it in their back pocket. So this 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:18.920 is new news. And Ben Smith, we understand from UWA, 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:21.640 he will be holding a press conference today, as will 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:25.040 Roger Cook around about midday. 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:29.520 Not together by any means, but yeah, they will be. Yeah, 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:32.560 I've just seen they're an alert go out that Ben 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:33.720 Smith will be out there. 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:34.320 Speaking on this. 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:39.680 I think the opponents to this gas project have jumped 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:41.600 on this too, and we'll be trying to put this 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:44.240 up in lights saying look, you know, this is new information. 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:48.480 It needs to be taken into account. Murray, what though, 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:51.440 has insisted basically since he was sworn in that this 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:55.440 decision wouldn't be delayed any longer. Woodside has been in 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:57.440 this process for six years. They want to see this 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:00.800 thing go ahead. They want the certainty to to know 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:03.960 that they can invest the pretty incredible sums of money 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:06.920 they need to invest to keep this going. And you 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:09.200 know for the energy grid as well. It's an important 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:12.120 project to keep GUS going. There's lots of customers in 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:15.720 Asia relying on it. But then there's a political headache 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:20.000 too for the government here. You know, they need to 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:21.880 make sure they can get decision out and in a 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:23.960 way that's not going to come back and bite them 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:25.840 in a lot of those inner city seats they now 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:28.640 hold at the next election in three years time. 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:32.040 Yeah, for sure. Thanks for chatting to us, Paul. I 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:37.600 think I've been watching issue for some time as have you. 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:39.680 What do you reckon Murray? What's going to do? 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:45.160 I've got little doubt that he will approve it. I 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:48.320 feel like he's sort of been out with an easy, 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:51.840 sort of trouble shooter over the first time of government 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:54.000 and when he was brought in, it seemed a pretty 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:56.280 clear sign to me that the government wanted this to 0:15:56.600 --> 0:16:00.840 get approved. And I mean the economic implications of this 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:06.080 project for the country are enormous. It's it's something that 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:08.320 I think all tears of government want to see go 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:11.800 ahead stout finding a way to I guess, sell that 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:14.120 and get it in an appropriate kind of way and 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:16.680 make sure that any conditions that need to be imposed 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:17.480 will be imposed. 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:18.960 Yeah. 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:20.840 I think there's an imperative from the government to see 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:24.440 this sorted out and sorted out early so that any 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:27.920 political skin that's lost from this will have healed, you know, 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:29.680 by the time that next election rolls around. 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:31.440 Yeah, all right, Paul, thank you for talking to us. 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:35.120 Good story. Thank You's my Paul Garvey from the Australian. 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:37.400 So there's a bit of a Bundi has turned up. 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:40.320 A rock has turned up from way back thirty years 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:43.240 of age that seems to indicate that the report that 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:45.320 was handled down last week that there has been damaged 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:50.320 done from the emissions on the bar up and it's yeah, 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:53.200 so I mean there's plenty of politics in this. But 0:16:53.760 --> 0:17:00.600 Professor Benjamin Smith has put out a statement and it's 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:03.640 about the porosity or the poorous nature of this particular rock. 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:09.320 So I'll bring parts of that to you. It's reasonably technical. 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:12.160 But there as a rock turned up in the last week, 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:15.159 the last week before Murray Watt's making his decisions. So 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:19.760 it could be Fortudois from the activists and the protesters, 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:22.680 or you know, maybe this is the timing of it all. 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:25.800 We are putting quiries into the Chamber of Commerce and 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:27.720 Industry and the chains of Reminds and the industry about 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:30.200 did they meet with Murray what last week? We get 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:32.080 to hear back. Still, we get to hear back from 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:34.240 Murray Watt as well while we're While we're at it, 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:36.120 go and talk to readA Saffiotti in just a moment. 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:39.840 She's the sports minister. She's also a junior sport parent. 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:43.600 I think she might even be a soccer parent about 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:47.520 the allegations around what we heard on the soccer incident 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:51.360 from the weekend from Sunday up in Mindari, stay listening. 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:05.119 Moving well, Mitchell, Guanana, Graham, Varmer and the tunnel this morning. 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:09.280 No major delays across the CBD, Reed and Tonkin Highway. 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:11.359 Earlier issues have disappeared. 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:14.680 Row Highway northbound still a bit slow Nicholson Road in Langford. 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:17.719 I'm Rob bever On, Perth Traffic Leader six PR. 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:21.440 I'm going to talk to Rita Safioty in just a moment. 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:25.439 She is the Minister for Sport and Recreation in in Wa, 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:28.080 but she's importantly I'm going to talk to her capacity 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:31.919 as the mum of junior sports kids. I wonder what 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:34.120 she's seeing. We're asking the question today is a sideline 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:36.480 behavior of parents in junior sports still an issue? The 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:38.680 yes is are ten and the nose of four. Thank 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:41.520 you for your correspondence or get as much of that 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:47.399 published and broadcast as humanly possible. Gid A Steve, I 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:50.000 am yeah, good mate. You're a ex LLA cross player, 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:51.600 but you've been involved in another sport. 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:57.720 Yeah, obviously played bla cross quade, an aggressive sport. Coached 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:02.520 and managed junior football and soccer. A son played two 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:05.080 years of soccer, and I found that the parents were 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:09.520 the most aggressive in that form of the sport, mainly 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:12.200 because of the frustration I can see in low scoring 0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:17.560 and obviously lack of physical contact. It's allowed, and when 0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:19.920 there was physical contact the parents used to get aggressed. 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:23.160 So might be a soccer thing, and these allegations will 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:25.800 be heard in court. You might be a soccer thing, mate, 0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:29.000 you reckon, But with our parent behavior, yeah, I. 0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:31.120 Actually didn't notice it a lot more and the son 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:35.359 played a lot of junior sport and I didn't all 0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:38.119 my sons have. I noticed that the soccer aggression from 0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:41.600 the parents was the worst. Lot in the other sports, 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:44.320 the aggression was towards the referee, which it's trying to stop. 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:48.600 I mean, I actually wore a high vis vest to 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:53.080 control crowds in soccer, so that made sure that parents 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:55.600 kept the aggression to a lower level. 0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:57.639 Yeah, all right, thanks for chating to Steve. 0:19:58.280 --> 0:19:59.560 No problem at all, his mate. 0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:02.640 So is a sideline behavior of parents in junior sports 0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:05.360 still an issue? So this is an extreme example, isn't 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:06.960 it from what we heard on Sunday? And then the 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:10.840 allegation is a forty six year old man from Whitford's 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:14.320 football club got his hands onto the neck of an 0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:18.200 eleven year old player from Mindari Rita Safiotti is the 0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:21.760 sports minister in wah also the mum of some kids 0:20:21.760 --> 0:20:24.840 who played junior sport. Hi readA thanks your time, Hi, 0:20:24.920 --> 0:20:28.359 So how are you going good? Thanks? Are you worried 0:20:28.960 --> 0:20:31.280 about this or do you think this is an extreme 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:32.320 and isolated incident. 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:36.720 Yeah, I think this is an extreme incident. I don't 0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:40.240 say I've never seen anything like it in my many 0:20:40.320 --> 0:20:43.720 watching of many games on the sidelines, So I think 0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:46.199 this is an extreme incident. But it goes back to 0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:49.520 the point of respect and being there to encourage your 0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:52.600 kids and not to take it as seriously as some do, 0:20:52.840 --> 0:20:55.600 which and we've seen it, some parents take it very seriously. 0:20:56.000 --> 0:20:57.200 Are your kids soccer kids? 0:20:58.040 --> 0:20:58.200 Yeah? 0:20:58.280 --> 0:21:00.880 Yeah, all three play soccer and there's an netball as well, 0:21:01.000 --> 0:21:03.600 so so what they will play soccer and one plays 0:21:03.600 --> 0:21:04.280 netball as well. 0:21:04.440 --> 0:21:07.280 Yeah, it is. Do you see any difference in the 0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:10.720 culture of the and the behavior of parents between netball 0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:11.919 and soccer rita. 0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:16.760 Yeah, I think the netball parents. 0:21:16.400 --> 0:21:17.240 Are a bit quieter. 0:21:17.280 --> 0:21:19.879 I'd say that soccer parents polly a little bit louder, 0:21:20.480 --> 0:21:23.600 But again it just varies depending on the teams, and 0:21:23.640 --> 0:21:26.119 it depends, I think of the divisions that you're playing 0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:27.840 and how seriously people are taking it. 0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:30.600 But look, it is, it is varied. 0:21:30.640 --> 0:21:32.680 I went to an interschool game actually the other day 0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:35.960 and there was a parent just abusing the lines but 0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:40.280 just constantly until they were pulled up. So it does vary, 0:21:40.680 --> 0:21:43.400 it does very according to the games. 0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:44.800 But look, I. 0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:48.080 Think in all of this, you know, kids are out there, 0:21:48.119 --> 0:21:50.760 they're trying their best, and you can see it when 0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:54.200 there's too much aggression. It sometimes really turns them off 0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:57.639 and they don't want to code back. Whether it's the 0:21:57.920 --> 0:22:00.679 you know, it's the kid's parents or other kids, you know, 0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:02.879 they get turned off. And and the other ish of 0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:07.639 course is volunteers and alignsmen and refs and so forth. 0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:11.320 You know, you don't want we need to get more 0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:15.280 kids volunteering and or you know being refs or linesmen 0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:19.840 and all you know, coaches and so forth. So having 0:22:19.880 --> 0:22:24.520 this abusive type of language all our behavior does turn 0:22:24.720 --> 0:22:26.040 I think a lot of kids off. 0:22:26.680 --> 0:22:29.159 In I don't know if you're across this yet, reader, 0:22:29.160 --> 0:22:31.360 and you know you've had your feet under the under 0:22:31.359 --> 0:22:33.879 the sports desk for a while now, But there's a 0:22:33.920 --> 0:22:37.520 crew at Sports West called True Sport and they try 0:22:37.560 --> 0:22:41.280 to look after the behavior of parents. And I would 0:22:41.640 --> 0:22:44.280 broadly think that True Sports had a pretty good impact, 0:22:44.840 --> 0:22:46.560 you know, through through all the sports that the state 0:22:46.600 --> 0:22:51.200 government funds. So I would think the incidents are becoming less. 0:22:51.200 --> 0:22:54.040 But you know, it's one thing for coaches and managers 0:22:54.600 --> 0:22:56.720 and players to be told, But then your parents are 0:22:57.119 --> 0:22:59.439 a different cohort, aren't they, And they do get they 0:22:59.440 --> 0:23:00.520 do get pretty side up. 0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:03.920 Yeah, and you're right. I have been briefed on True 0:23:03.960 --> 0:23:08.199 Sport and last week I entered a Sports West event 0:23:08.280 --> 0:23:11.639 where they acknowledge the role of True Sport in supporting 0:23:12.800 --> 0:23:16.920 volunteers in particular with mental health challenges, but more generally 0:23:17.160 --> 0:23:20.600 about sideline behavior. So there is some really positive messaging 0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:24.679 coming out from that program and also ways for clubs 0:23:24.720 --> 0:23:27.920 to handle these incidents too. So it's an excellent program 0:23:28.000 --> 0:23:30.560 which I've been briefed on and I've seen it already 0:23:30.600 --> 0:23:33.439 in relation to the messaging on the sideline that you 0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:38.040 see every week at the different competitions. So I think 0:23:38.080 --> 0:23:41.720 it is improving and it's more isolated, but suddenly we 0:23:41.760 --> 0:23:43.520 need to all work on. And then, as I said, 0:23:43.520 --> 0:23:46.760 in particular, because it's the kids and you want them 0:23:46.800 --> 0:23:48.800 to want to you know, you want them to want 0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:52.720 to stay out there playing, and as I said, sometimes 0:23:52.760 --> 0:23:55.120 you can see it where they just get turned off 0:23:55.200 --> 0:23:58.840 because of some of that sideline behavior. You want your 0:23:58.920 --> 0:24:01.439 kids to be able to to pate in a safe 0:24:01.560 --> 0:24:04.320 environment and you want't to enjoy it too, And so 0:24:04.400 --> 0:24:07.639 that's why these types of incidents, like I said, they 0:24:07.680 --> 0:24:10.639 are isolated, but we don't want to see these types 0:24:10.680 --> 0:24:14.080 of incidents on the sideline for any game I'm in 0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:14.840 any competition. 0:24:15.040 --> 0:24:21.040 Yeah, all right, while I've got you, Okay, will the 0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:26.120 will the Thornleigh Coburn rail link be open on schedule? 0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:27.920 I think during the Monday Dune the ninth. Is that 0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:28.440 going to happen? 0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:30.560 Rita, Yes, that's right, yep. 0:24:30.880 --> 0:24:33.080 So that's all that's all planned and good to go. 0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:38.199 Yeah, we've been doing extensive driver training, so it's all 0:24:38.240 --> 0:24:40.600 ready to go. The stations are ready to go, and 0:24:40.640 --> 0:24:43.440 so that will commence. I think our community open day 0:24:44.359 --> 0:24:46.760 is the June the eighth, the Sunday to June the eighth, 0:24:46.840 --> 0:24:50.000 and during the ninety it opens for normal services. 0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:53.520 And are you I know the PTA are aware because 0:24:53.320 --> 0:24:55.520 we spoke to a bloke who lives in Dagley shyesterday 0:24:55.520 --> 0:24:58.399 on the show and he's worried about train line squeal 0:24:58.960 --> 0:25:01.240 in Daglish. Come across your desk. 0:25:01.920 --> 0:25:05.159 Yes it has, and so I think they did. Note 0:25:05.280 --> 0:25:08.720 we have been investing into trying to reduce some of 0:25:08.760 --> 0:25:12.639 that train noise, in particular some treatments on the tracks 0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:16.119 to reduce that train noise. I think the community is 0:25:16.520 --> 0:25:20.280 I supposed divided and whether they want to consider noise wars. 0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:24.480 But we've done some testing and we believe that without 0:25:24.640 --> 0:25:28.479 further work that's been undertaken, it's now below some of 0:25:28.520 --> 0:25:32.760 the limits that have been sent in relation to noise noise. 0:25:33.119 --> 0:25:36.840 So we have done some work working with the community 0:25:36.920 --> 0:25:40.320 to try and reduce that noise on the turnback. 0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:44.359 And just finally, I know you're a Frio fan and 0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:46.879 one of the great Prio players. Anthony Grove played two 0:25:46.920 --> 0:25:50.520 hundred games for Freer number fourteen. He's also the Combat 0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:53.280 Sports Commissioner, his heads up the Combat Sports Commissioner have 0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:56.600 had a chat to Groves yet about the ban Knuckle Championships. 0:25:56.800 --> 0:25:57.480 Where are you on that? 0:25:58.400 --> 0:25:58.600 Yeah? 0:25:58.600 --> 0:26:01.399 I did. Actually, both him and Maturer came in to 0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:06.200 brief me about the sport and in particular what they've 0:26:06.240 --> 0:26:08.960 been doing in relation to the regulation of that sport. 0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:11.480 So in relation to that sport that was put. 0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:15.199 Forward as in relations to that sport, there were some 0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:19.199 regulatory changes that were made that were signed off just 0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:23.600 before the last election, and that regulatory change was based 0:26:23.600 --> 0:26:26.919 on advice from the Combat Sports Commission saying that with 0:26:27.400 --> 0:26:31.679 extra precautions, they believe that bear knuckle boxing could have 0:26:31.800 --> 0:26:35.399 occurred in the state. So those regulations were changed. And 0:26:35.440 --> 0:26:37.919 now there's been an event that's come forward, So the 0:26:37.960 --> 0:26:41.399 Combat Sports Commission is going through that proposed event and 0:26:41.440 --> 0:26:44.960 in particular looking at what additional regulations could be put 0:26:45.000 --> 0:26:49.320 in place, in particular the experience of the boxes. The 0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:52.199 other point being the medical practitioners that need to be 0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:56.320 on hand, So they're working through that with this proposed event. 0:26:57.240 --> 0:27:00.320 It's not far away if it does happen when event 0:27:00.400 --> 0:27:02.800 organizers wanted to happen, So decision soon, I guess. 0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:04.240 Yeah. 0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:06.760 So the combat that's in front of the Combat Sports Commission. 0:27:06.760 --> 0:27:09.600 I think they've put forward a proposal, but as I said, 0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:13.639 there's a strong regulatory environment that they're put in place 0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:18.480 for this, in particular the levels of experience of the 0:27:19.160 --> 0:27:22.840 of the boxes, the medical practitioners that need to be 0:27:22.880 --> 0:27:26.719 on hand. So they're working through what safeguards and mechanisms 0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:28.760 can be put in place to make sure it can 0:27:28.800 --> 0:27:30.000 be done as safe as possible. 0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:32.280 Are you the ultimate arbiter on this reta. 0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:37.120 It's actually the Combat Sports Commission, who, as I said, 0:27:37.200 --> 0:27:38.879 the regulations have been changed. 0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:39.159 To allow it. 0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:41.560 So that was probably the key thing that happened. So 0:27:41.600 --> 0:27:45.600 the regulatory, the regulations changed that allowed the sport to 0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:49.199 be conducted in Wa. But then for an event, the 0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:53.480 Combats Sports Commission has to fantion that event and that's 0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:54.960 what's been worked through at the moment. 0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:58.440 All righty, and then you I think you meant when 0:27:58.440 --> 0:28:00.639 you talked about last week you mentioned potential for a 0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:03.280 veto from yourself. Do you think you need to. 0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:06.600 Exercise that not at this stage, As I said, the 0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:11.320 Combat Sports Commission have gone through and identified a number 0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:16.240 of safeguards and safeguards and mechanisms to make it as 0:28:16.280 --> 0:28:18.879 safe as possible. And they've been working through that and 0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:19.560 they seem. 0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:20.400 Very very rigorous. 0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:22.480 Yeah, all right, thank you for your time, Thanks for 0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:23.320 talking to our listeners. 0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:24.439 Thank you. 0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:28.719 Rita Safioti, Estate's Minister for Sport and Recreation. So that 0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:34.080 doesn't see bad behavior, her three kids play soccer, doesn't 0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:36.399 see it where she is, but did see it and 0:28:36.480 --> 0:28:38.880 into school. You know, some people are yelling at alignsment 0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:43.760 wonderble three A two. Is the sideline behavior of parents 0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:45.880 in junior sports still an issue? That's O yes, no question. 0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:48.920 I'll bring you up to date with that in just 0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:51.880 a moment. The Thornleigh Coburn Link will open on Monday 0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:54.840 during the ninth as promised for those people who'd send 0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:59.280 in that information. And looks like they're trying to trying 0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:02.040 to address always down at Daglish Siding. We talked about 0:29:02.080 --> 0:29:06.160 this yesterday on the show. There's still a thousand trains 0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:08.280 going in and out of the place each and every week. 0:29:09.600 --> 0:29:11.280 It's a lot, isn't it. We'll come back into some moment. 0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:13.479 Thanks for your thoughts. You can SMS is zero four 0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:16.880 eight seven triple nine A Dady two. You can SEMs 0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:19.320 SMSs on that number. You can call us one double 0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:23.560 three a Daddy two. Back in a moment, Jamie has 0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:28.160 sented an SMS which is funny. The rock, the rock 0:29:28.200 --> 0:29:31.840 that has fortuitously surfaced as we lead in going to 0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:35.480 the decision by Murray Watt on the Woodside extension of 0:29:35.520 --> 0:29:38.320 their lease and their and their contract, and I mentioned 0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:40.480 that it's to do with the that the rock is porous. 0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:43.000 The rock that's been in this office is porous, and 0:29:43.120 --> 0:29:44.880 Jamie says, I wonder where he's been keeping that rock. 0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:49.400 You said it's poor ass. Thanks Jamie. If you've done 0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:51.800 that deliberately, it's funny. If you've misspelled it, it's not 0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:55.719 as funny, but thanks. Bev says, good morning, Simon. Yet Abev, 0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:58.480 I think sideline behavior at sport is still a problem. 0:29:58.520 --> 0:29:59.960 So we'll put you in the Yes is good show. 0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:02.920 Thanks Bev. Good on you, one double three, eight to 0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:07.480 eighty two. Bernie says, I hear even Anthony Albanize is 0:30:07.520 --> 0:30:11.600 pumping for gas something about firming capacity. What does that mean, Bernie. 0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:13.680 I think he is saying that we are still going 0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:18.440 to need gas providing capacity in our energy provision until 0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:21.480 we trance make the transition to renewables. I think that's 0:30:21.480 --> 0:30:24.080 what that means, Bernie. I noticed that this morning being 0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:27.400 used in the news. Alan reckons that there's some hypocrisy 0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:31.080 here from Rita Safiotti. We're talking about violence in sports 0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:37.400 and parent behavior, but we are promoting UFC and yeah, 0:30:37.440 --> 0:30:40.560 and the Bare Knuckle Championship going to come here, So 0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:42.760 that's interesting. So it looks sounds like you're going to 0:30:42.840 --> 0:30:46.240 leave the decision to the sports Commission, the Combat Sports Commission, 0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:49.640 which is Anthony Grover and friends. Is the sideline. Behavior 0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:51.560 of parents in junior sports still an issue. The yes 0:30:51.640 --> 0:30:53.800 is a fifteen of the nose a seven, although a 0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:56.720 lot of people do note that it's probably getting better. 0:30:57.440 --> 0:31:00.080 And Lisa, Lisa, when my kids played oz Kick, we 0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:03.280 had a parent meeting before the season started. Yes, Lisa, 0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:06.480 I know we did that in the district where my 0:31:07.560 --> 0:31:11.600 young fellow played footy at Clamont's in the Clamont district. 0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:14.200 So yeah, we had at the Clamont Footy Club. Thanks 0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:18.880 for your thoughts today. I'll keep reading your comments. This 0:31:18.920 --> 0:31:22.280 one from Body Simon. In the Peel District Junior AFL competition, 0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:25.719 if adults cause incidents or abuse at the games, the 0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:27.880 parent of that team will lose E points, which goes 0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:29.600 to the latter system, which could cause that team to 0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:32.840 miss finals if they have too many E points. Also, 0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:35.000 the club will be fine x amount. Since it's been 0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:38.680 in place, there is minimal poor behavior from parents. Thanks Body, Yeah, 0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:40.760 the E point, we saw the environment point. I'm aware 0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:44.120 of that. That's how footy it tries to address bad 0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:47.560 behavior by parents, coaches, managers, assistant coaches, and the like. 0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:50.400 Thank you mate, good correspondence. Peter's phoned in. 0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:53.920 Hi, peterh goot it, Simon. I just wanted to talk 0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:57.560 about the rock card up there and the weather effect 0:31:57.600 --> 0:32:01.640 on it. The weather up there's I worked up there 0:32:01.640 --> 0:32:04.200 for four and a half years in the eighties, and 0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:09.880 one month there we had forty one degrees in a row. 0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:15.280 I went through a couple of cyclones up there. One 0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:17.320 of them was two hundred and fifteen k's an hour. 0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:21.360 I can't understand how it's still visible, which is weathering. 0:32:21.560 --> 0:32:25.840 It's got to have an effect. It's extreme weather up there. 0:32:26.000 --> 0:32:29.200 Yeah, I think so, mate, Yeah, absolutely right. And that's 0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:33.480 was the two hundred and fifteen k cyclone. Was that, Bobby, 0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:35.080 I think it was. 0:32:35.160 --> 0:32:37.640 I can't remember the name of it, Yeah, but it was. 0:32:38.600 --> 0:32:41.280 It was pretty bad. Yeah, I couldn't stand up in it. 0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:44.440 Yeah, you know what it was. 0:32:44.720 --> 0:32:45.880 It was out there. 0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:48.480 It was Friday, I think, Bobby was the nineties. I 0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:50.600 think you were there in the eighties, Peter, Thank you 0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:52.640 and Peter. I just looked the report that's coming out 0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:57.959 from Ben Smith. Benjamin Smith is at UWA. He speaks 0:32:58.040 --> 0:33:01.760 very specifically about the still pollution levels of sophur diok 0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:06.040 side and nicos oxide from the nearby industry. So he 0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:08.520 he's going really hard on the emissions from the from 0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:11.480 the industry up there, which is different to what you're saying. 0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:14.960 Appreciate your comments, Peter, Thank you, Okay, thanks so you mate, 0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:18.640 Peter from who worked at the bar Up in the 0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:22.320 in the nineteen eighties one double three a eighty two. 0:33:22.640 --> 0:33:27.720 So interesting that a UWA academic is getting involved in 0:33:27.720 --> 0:33:31.840 the politics of this so long story short. The government 0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:37.120 have had a long running report, it's called the m 0:33:37.360 --> 0:33:41.360 R a MP Report. I'll try and find out what 0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:44.480 that stands for, but that that report has just has 0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:46.600 basically said, look, the damage to the rocks and the 0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:51.840 rock art on the bar Up Peninsula predated. What's the 0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:54.760 industry that's there now. He came from an old an 0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:57.240 old power plant that was up there in I think 0:33:57.280 --> 0:34:00.720 it's in the nineteen seventies. So this this academic is 0:34:00.760 --> 0:34:05.760 coming out and has gone the report the mirror JUGA 0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:09.000 Rock Art Monitoring Program Report. Thank you team. 0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:10.640 So. 0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:14.440 Professor Smith Ben Smith has used one of his PhD 0:34:14.520 --> 0:34:17.440 students to study a rock that was taken from the 0:34:17.440 --> 0:34:19.640 bar Up thirty years ago and he's saying, because it's 0:34:20.080 --> 0:34:24.560 because of its how, it's because of its condition. The 0:34:24.960 --> 0:34:28.400 damage you're seeing to the current rock on the bar 0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:32.600 up is from industry softodox side of nier soxside. Interesting timing, 0:34:32.600 --> 0:34:35.080 Hey one double three A two. He's out today at 0:34:35.120 --> 0:34:38.120 midday making a statement, as is Roger Cook at a 0:34:38.160 --> 0:34:40.520 separate press conference, and we do believe that's around the 0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:44.400 Woodside project extension as well or the lease extension. Thanks 0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:47.760 for listening in today. Thanks for your correspondence and your thoughts. 0:34:47.800 --> 0:34:50.840 Lou says, I've been involved in AFL community umpiring for 0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:54.080 twenty seven years. A dog's sadden the postgame, my car 0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:56.440 eggs several times, and endless threats of my life, the 0:34:56.520 --> 0:34:58.879 things we do for the love of a sport. Thanks Lou, 0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:00.240 Keep up the good. 0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:01.000 Lo is that. 0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:06.120 Bigfooty grown up adult footy or is that junior footy? 0:35:06.480 --> 0:35:10.680 I'd imagine that's a grown up footy, Kylie says, Happy Tuesday, Simon. 0:35:10.719 --> 0:35:12.839 Thank you, Kylie. I hope the sports parents don't watch 0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:15.360 the likes of Minister Carey playing the man in Parliament. 0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:21.040 Thank you. This one here from Bear of a different 0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:24.440 BEV doesn't matter how much reta sugar coats. The issue 0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:27.719 rebare knuckle fighting. The government is saying it's okay to fight. 0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:32.319 Money talks, says BEV. And this story was fleshed out 0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:35.160 comprehensively by Jamie Burnett on the Weekends when he spotted 0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:38.319 that the legislation has been changed by David Templeman that 0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:42.759 the Combat Sports Commission should canvas bear knuckled fighting and 0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:45.600 the beer knuckle Fighting Championships, which is still planned to 0:35:45.600 --> 0:35:51.000 come to Perth Groves. If you're listening, Anthony Grover, good lad, Anthony, 0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:55.040 good luck with the decision. It's a combat sport and 0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:59.120 they're working through it as we as we speak. Happy 0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:02.080 to hear from you. One double three eight two, Hello Tony. 0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:04.680 How are you basketball? 0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:05.760 Yeah? 0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:09.680 Well, at the moment, I've thought you under seventeens girls 0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:13.640 big grade and the parents are fine, I mean. But 0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:16.759 one of the things that I found really interesting, and 0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:18.799 this is one thing that parents need to understand, and 0:36:18.840 --> 0:36:22.200 I talked to myself about this as well, is there 0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:23.880 a lot of a lot of us parents think that 0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:29.279 our kid is much better than they actually are. Right, bro, 0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:32.319 how do you tell a parent the reason why your 0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:36.440 kid is on the sideline because it probably should take 0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:38.880 up chess, do you know what I mean? You can't 0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:41.400 be doing that. But this is where the this is 0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:43.880 where the frustration is with parents, a lot of parents, 0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:47.760 especially in my in my sport. Ye, it's like wise 0:36:47.960 --> 0:36:51.960 on a bench is because yeah, not good enough. Yeah, 0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:55.960 because they paid the fees the same fees, especially for 0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:59.160 domestic they want to get equal amounts. And there's a 0:36:59.160 --> 0:37:01.319 lot of things, yeah, fires and all that. 0:37:02.120 --> 0:37:04.200 It's a hard one, isn't it, Tony. I know I 0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:06.440 worked with Ron Alexander for many years at sport and 0:37:06.440 --> 0:37:09.720 wreck and Ron, despite being a big, tough old ruckman, 0:37:09.800 --> 0:37:11.959 he was very strong and all kids you get equal 0:37:12.040 --> 0:37:14.600 game time and rotated through positions because that's why. That 0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:18.480 leads to enjoyment and it leads to them wanting to 0:37:18.520 --> 0:37:20.800 stay in the sport for longer. But I suppose you 0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:22.080 want to try and win too, don't you. 0:37:22.840 --> 0:37:27.560 Yeah, in domestically, domestically, I personally believe it needs to 0:37:27.560 --> 0:37:30.760 be equal amounts. When you get to the higher levels, 0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:35.520 then it's on merit, on on your ability. But in 0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:38.920 domestically everybody should be having equal. 0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:42.200 Amounts, all right, mate, Yeah, thanks Tony. Good to hear 0:37:42.239 --> 0:37:43.880 from it. In the running for a Caller of the 0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:48.759 Day today coming up after ten o'clock today, Parking, we've 0:37:48.800 --> 0:37:51.000 moved Parky's time. Dave Parkinson will join us after ten 0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:56.160 o'clock today. The veteran copper True Detective is the name 0:37:56.200 --> 0:37:58.440 of the segment. Did you know I didn't know this? 0:37:58.480 --> 0:38:01.080 Did you know? There was an assassination plot against Simon Crean. 0:38:01.680 --> 0:38:03.880 And Simon Crean was the opposition leader, leader of the 0:38:03.920 --> 0:38:06.920 Labor Party, and this was in Lake Grace and Parky 0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:11.720 was there. Parky again put his life on the line, 0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:16.319 this time for Simon Crean. And he's got so many 0:38:16.360 --> 0:38:17.960 stories as any Parky. But you'll join us out of 0:38:17.960 --> 0:38:21.200 ten o'clock today. An assassination plot against Simon Crean, the 0:38:21.280 --> 0:38:24.400 Labor leader back in the day. Stay listening. It is 0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:26.520 five and a half minutes to ten. I just had 0:38:26.520 --> 0:38:30.879 a notification from one of our listeners that the Association 0:38:31.080 --> 0:38:35.359 of Mining and Exploration Companies, the CEO, Warren Pierce, head 0:38:35.400 --> 0:38:38.760 of National Policy, Neil van Drunen, met with Murray Watt 0:38:38.880 --> 0:38:42.799 last week. That's good to know. Thank you for that, correspondent. So, 0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:48.319 Warren Warren Pierce and Neil van Drunen from the Association 0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:53.800 of Mining Exploration Companies met with Murray Watt last week. 0:38:54.440 --> 0:38:57.040 Thanks for your corresponds today, Steve from Dart says Simon. 0:38:57.080 --> 0:39:00.160 I've umpired for nearly forty years and the cult of 0:39:00.200 --> 0:39:03.200 these days with parents has improved significantly. It is only 0:39:03.239 --> 0:39:05.880 isolated incidence like this that bring it to attention the 0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:08.080 fact that it's only point one percent of idiots that 0:39:08.120 --> 0:39:10.400 spoil it for the ninety nine point nine percent of 0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:13.960 people who do behave Steve from Darts, Thanks Steve, Thanks 0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:19.239 for your thoughts, Mate, appreciate you calling back. And we 0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:21.600 just heard back from the Chamber of Commerce and Industry 0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:24.279 the CCI. They've confirmed they met with Murray Wat too, 0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:29.600 So AMEC and CCI did meet with Murray what last week? 0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:32.600 So thanks for your thoughts. Is the sideline of behavior 0:39:32.640 --> 0:39:34.640 of parents and junior sports still an issue? The yes 0:39:34.640 --> 0:39:37.520 is are fifteen The NOS ate some nice correspondents coming 0:39:37.560 --> 0:39:40.120 in on this as well, and sent me a nice 0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:45.240 message about women's footy and I'm just trying to find it. Basically, 0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:49.200 Ann said the behavior is here, he is found it. 0:39:49.239 --> 0:39:51.600 Definitely no problems with the girls AFL games. I attend, 0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:56.480 wonderful sportsmanship from all sides, Thank you and appreciate that 0:39:57.560 --> 0:40:00.520 and a lot of correspondence coming in. It's Onny from 0:40:00.560 --> 0:40:03.520 valdivis No, there is no issue. I coach under seventeen 0:40:03.560 --> 0:40:06.960 girls basketball team. If there's any inappropriate behavior by a parent, 0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:09.560 myself and or team manager pulls them aside and have 0:40:09.560 --> 0:40:12.680 a chap. Normally everyone behaves themselves, So maybe this is 0:40:12.719 --> 0:40:17.080 an extreme act. This bloke will have his day in court. 0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:21.520 So Whitford's Junior Football Club Soccer Club and Mindari playing 0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:24.479 up in Mindari on Sunday and the bloke is taken 0:40:24.560 --> 0:40:28.120 upon himself allegedly to wrap his hands around eleven year 0:40:28.120 --> 0:40:33.000 old player's neck. From Mindari Soccer has reacted pretty quickly 0:40:33.000 --> 0:40:35.480 on this one. Both the clubs have locill have his 0:40:35.560 --> 0:40:39.040 day in court on June sixth. Thanks for listening him. 0:40:39.320 --> 0:40:42.520 Dave Parkinson with True Detective after ten o'clock. How good. 0:40:46.760 --> 0:40:51.759 On Perth six PR. This is Perth Today with Simon Beaumont. 0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:06.000 Running a poll today. Do in your opinion yes or no? 0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:09.320 What are you seeing a junior sport? Is parent behavior 0:41:09.640 --> 0:41:12.160 on the song of line is still an issue and 0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:15.920 the yes is just marginally habit at this stage. I'll 0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:19.080 bring you that tally as the As the show winds on, 0:41:19.719 --> 0:41:22.640 Jane has a positive shout out to Western Power staff. 0:41:23.440 --> 0:41:26.319 Thank you, Jane. You worked over twelve hours from seven 0:41:26.360 --> 0:41:29.080 thirty last night till seven thirty this morning working on 0:41:29.120 --> 0:41:32.000 a power line near Mawson Park, Hillary's two hundred and 0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:35.640 eighty homes without power overnight. World on Western Power says Jane, 0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:39.880 and Aileen says regarding the Barot Peninsula, the degradation monitoring 0:41:39.880 --> 0:41:42.279 study seemed to be in their relatively early stages, and 0:41:42.320 --> 0:41:45.160 it seems impossible that, based on current information, of a 0:41:45.160 --> 0:41:47.759 decision that makes everyone happy, none of us know the 0:41:47.760 --> 0:41:50.560 correct answer, so it seems likely the decision will reflect 0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:53.200 the greatest good for the greatest number. Thank you, Aileen, 0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:56.960 you are you remain the voice of reason, Sideline behavior 0:41:57.000 --> 0:41:58.839 of parents and junior sports to an issue that yeses 0:41:58.880 --> 0:42:02.000 are seventeen and the nose are nine. Let's do this. 0:42:09.200 --> 0:42:11.400 Detectives with Dave Parkinson. 0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:13.200 Yeah. 0:42:13.200 --> 0:42:16.120 One of our favorite and very popular segments on Perth 0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:18.960 Today is True Detective and Dave Parkinson joins us. Now 0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:22.200 former everything in the w a police service. God they 0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:26.799 Parky Simon, good, Thank you for people who haven't heard 0:42:26.840 --> 0:42:29.240 the segment we covered the biggest story in the world, 0:42:29.239 --> 0:42:33.200 which was the suicide Sect, the Japanese suicide Sect operating 0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:36.279 in regional w A. We covered that. We've covered all 0:42:36.320 --> 0:42:39.719 sorts of TIBs, go lightly, the Confederate Action Party in Geraldton, 0:42:40.280 --> 0:42:42.600 and sometimes Parky, after I talk to you, I get 0:42:42.600 --> 0:42:44.280 a call from police media. 0:42:45.440 --> 0:42:50.120 Really yeah, really really good, good better otherwise. 0:42:50.400 --> 0:42:53.840 Which means it's good that they're listening. But sometimes we 0:42:54.360 --> 0:42:56.919 get we get very close to sensitive topics. I guess 0:42:57.000 --> 0:42:59.080 is my is my point. I had no idea about 0:42:59.080 --> 0:43:02.480 this one, mate. This is the you found yourself in 0:43:02.520 --> 0:43:05.279 the mid In a over a four year period, the 0:43:05.320 --> 0:43:09.040 farmers of Wa were very, very very unhappy. They were 0:43:09.040 --> 0:43:12.719 called the Rural Action Movement nineteen ninety to nineteen ninety four. 0:43:12.760 --> 0:43:13.719 What were they unhappy about? 0:43:13.760 --> 0:43:19.680 Party here, Simon, and basically back in that time, the 0:43:19.719 --> 0:43:23.799 banks were being what banks normally are, and I'm too 0:43:23.880 --> 0:43:26.360 much of a gentleman to suggest what they are and 0:43:26.400 --> 0:43:32.239 how they operate, and the rural industry across Western Australia, 0:43:32.320 --> 0:43:35.719 particularly in the wheat belt regions that we're going through 0:43:37.080 --> 0:43:45.080 tremendous hardship. The law abiding citizens there, the wheat prices 0:43:45.120 --> 0:43:49.719 were down, the fertilizer costs were exorbitant. Rail infrastructure was 0:43:49.960 --> 0:43:52.080 pretty average, but the costs were there, and then the 0:43:52.160 --> 0:43:58.040 lack of government support regarding costs was pretty horrendous and 0:43:59.200 --> 0:44:02.280 at that time, and a number of the big banks 0:44:02.360 --> 0:44:08.280 were fore closing on farm farming mortgages and and really 0:44:08.320 --> 0:44:10.759 said it's like the old John Wayne Westerns where the 0:44:10.800 --> 0:44:12.759 baddies come in and take over a farm and by 0:44:12.800 --> 0:44:16.120 the next one and whatever. And it had an incredible 0:44:16.120 --> 0:44:23.480 impact right across regional Western Australia. Particularly something that is 0:44:24.120 --> 0:44:27.799 still happening today sadly is the suicide right you know, 0:44:27.840 --> 0:44:31.759 of farmers their families and then obviously later on it's 0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:37.160 well documented, well documented with with youth suicide. So it 0:44:37.360 --> 0:44:39.560 was a really really hard time and. 0:44:41.280 --> 0:44:46.279 So sorry to go to your unit got involved. There 0:44:46.280 --> 0:44:49.120 were death threats to politicians and people were actually targeting 0:44:49.640 --> 0:44:51.480 physically targeting the bank buildings. 0:44:52.560 --> 0:44:55.600 Well they we're right through. It would be very interesting again, 0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:58.279 we're there hijacking you show. You know, some of the 0:44:58.320 --> 0:45:01.080 people in Rualdubra are probably listening and they can they 0:45:01.080 --> 0:45:04.440 would definitely remember this awful period of time. One of 0:45:04.480 --> 0:45:09.040 the main tactics was super gluin the bank locks, you know, 0:45:10.000 --> 0:45:15.640 and then other other damage that you know, perhaps shouldn't 0:45:15.680 --> 0:45:18.279 go into now that you've reminded me of sensitivity. 0:45:19.239 --> 0:45:24.320 But I just keep doing it your way, made by way. 0:45:24.920 --> 0:45:27.680 I mean, I've got they've got my number, and they 0:45:27.760 --> 0:45:30.040 got my number, and they know the muroral officers in 0:45:30.080 --> 0:45:34.200 Carlisle Heights that can come in anytime. But it was, 0:45:34.320 --> 0:45:36.080 it really was a tragic time. And I don't want 0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:39.040 to make light of it because I mean, I've jumped 0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:42.560 forward a bit since this, Uh, these events that happened. 0:45:43.239 --> 0:45:45.319 You know, we've got the r U Okay, we've got 0:45:45.320 --> 0:45:47.239 the blue trees and I've just come back from mind 0:45:47.280 --> 0:45:49.799 him up and they're everywhere down there would suggest there's 0:45:49.800 --> 0:45:52.560 still a problem. So what happens. We had a very 0:45:52.640 --> 0:45:56.600 volatile time, and particularly the threats of politicians that came 0:45:56.680 --> 0:46:02.880 under our Bailey Wick and anyhow, one particular incident that 0:46:02.960 --> 0:46:06.760 really worried us was part of the Malawa to Jornton railway. 0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:10.920 The line was blown up. Obviously, the decent farming people 0:46:10.960 --> 0:46:14.440 who've got so many friends out there, they wouldn't contemplate that. 0:46:14.560 --> 0:46:18.560 But there were some radical people on the outside, trying 0:46:18.600 --> 0:46:21.880 to ingratiate themselves in for their own own means. And 0:46:21.880 --> 0:46:25.279 we've already discussed Tims go lightly and others in the 0:46:25.360 --> 0:46:28.239 rural and the competat party. So it was a very 0:46:28.320 --> 0:46:30.799 very very tense time for everyone, and it was a 0:46:30.840 --> 0:46:35.000 sad time because a lot of people did take their 0:46:35.040 --> 0:46:38.080 lives and they just felt they had nowhere to go. 0:46:39.600 --> 0:46:41.879 I can't remember that story, bag, Yeah they did. 0:46:41.960 --> 0:46:44.400 Yeah, they'd be part of between Muliva and Jeralton, there 0:46:44.440 --> 0:46:47.239 was about four lengths of role got blown up and 0:46:47.320 --> 0:46:51.960 obviously no one's taken responsibility for that. Obviously, as I said, 0:46:52.000 --> 0:46:53.720 a lot of my friends out in the country wouldn't 0:46:53.719 --> 0:46:58.280 even contemplate that. They, you know, the decent, law abiding people. 0:46:59.120 --> 0:47:01.400 Then having said that, yeah. 0:47:02.360 --> 0:47:05.680 The next chapter in all this, you have done dignitary 0:47:05.680 --> 0:47:09.319 protection at different times your unit. I'm talking to Dave 0:47:09.360 --> 0:47:12.080 partners and folks. If you don't recognize the voice. So 0:47:12.120 --> 0:47:14.440 Simon Crane is coming to Late Grace. 0:47:15.400 --> 0:47:19.520 Yes, and what happened. We got a very very credible 0:47:19.560 --> 0:47:23.800 threat that his life was at risk. Now I cannot 0:47:23.880 --> 0:47:28.320 remember why. I don't think his portfolio if I remember correctly, 0:47:28.360 --> 0:47:31.719 and perhaps Sean could google it or whatever. I thought. 0:47:31.719 --> 0:47:35.080 He was Industrial Relations minister at the time. It could 0:47:35.080 --> 0:47:39.160 be wrong, but anyhow, he was coming to Late Grace 0:47:39.280 --> 0:47:46.600 and through obviously place and others in the community, concerned citizens. 0:47:46.600 --> 0:47:49.480 They said he better not turn up because we've got 0:47:49.520 --> 0:47:53.239 a we have a couple of people here who are 0:47:53.280 --> 0:47:55.319 going to take his life. It was as simple as that, 0:47:56.560 --> 0:48:00.880 which was very radical in those days. So anyhow, so 0:48:01.000 --> 0:48:05.560 what happened. I was given the task of going and 0:48:05.560 --> 0:48:08.520 seeing Simon Crean, which I did when he loved in Perth, 0:48:08.560 --> 0:48:10.240 and I said, look, it's probably not a good idea 0:48:10.280 --> 0:48:15.400 to go down there, and basically he said, well, no, 0:48:15.520 --> 0:48:20.320 I'm going. So I got a seat on the government 0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:24.200 plane and away we went. And what I was very 0:48:24.200 --> 0:48:27.640 concerned about is that this threat, you know, having come 0:48:27.680 --> 0:48:32.239 from a farming background myself and stations and whatever. You know, 0:48:32.320 --> 0:48:34.480 those guys down there don't have little twenty twos of 0:48:34.560 --> 0:48:37.480 air rifles, you know for a vermin control. They have 0:48:37.600 --> 0:48:41.360 very high powered firearms. And I was very concerned because 0:48:41.480 --> 0:48:44.239 those who know, like Grace, the airport has it's near 0:48:44.360 --> 0:48:49.879 strips surrounded by saltbush and lake. And yeah, so when 0:48:49.920 --> 0:48:52.240 we were in the air I sort of breeched everyone 0:48:52.239 --> 0:48:54.280 and tried to convince him it's probably not a good idea, 0:48:55.239 --> 0:48:58.280 and it's really that I get concerned to that degree, 0:48:58.400 --> 0:49:02.560 but I had visions of someone trying to take us 0:49:02.600 --> 0:49:06.560 out as we've come in to land, which was a 0:49:06.640 --> 0:49:09.440 huge concern. And then obviously the venue that we went to, 0:49:09.480 --> 0:49:12.640 which is the Late Gray Sports Ground, was just all open, 0:49:12.800 --> 0:49:14.480 and I think all I had was the two local 0:49:14.520 --> 0:49:16.000 coppers there to give me a bit of a hand, 0:49:16.040 --> 0:49:20.680 and it was just a matter of doing what we 0:49:20.800 --> 0:49:24.920 do best, talking, engaging and sort of keeping the minister 0:49:26.400 --> 0:49:31.040 fairly fairly close, and thankfully it went without a hitch. 0:49:31.560 --> 0:49:35.960 So it's my understanding that you got him off the 0:49:36.000 --> 0:49:40.440 plane and you actually put yourself between him and potentially 0:49:40.880 --> 0:49:42.520 where a shooter could be. 0:49:42.680 --> 0:49:45.880 Yes, yeah, that was that was my role. I mean, 0:49:45.920 --> 0:49:49.840 I always hated the nickname bullet catcher, but myself and 0:49:49.880 --> 0:49:53.840 my crew in the dignity protection area, that's basically what 0:49:53.960 --> 0:49:56.480 we were. Things weren't really bad. I mean, I'm trying 0:49:56.480 --> 0:49:58.120 not to make light of it. It was a lot, 0:49:58.360 --> 0:50:03.200 you know, we were very capable, very capable people that 0:50:03.960 --> 0:50:05.680 you know, we weren't just full of catchers. We could 0:50:05.680 --> 0:50:08.640 take out a threat as well. But it was it's 0:50:08.760 --> 0:50:11.400 very concerning. It was a lot of open ground and 0:50:11.400 --> 0:50:17.000 and and the anger the it was, it was quite palatable, 0:50:17.600 --> 0:50:21.480 that palpable, the anger there amongst the farmers, and and 0:50:21.520 --> 0:50:24.680 I think Cream and our in our team sort of 0:50:24.680 --> 0:50:28.040 got the message that that, you know, something needs to 0:50:28.040 --> 0:50:33.200 be done. Anyhow, it was it was, it was a 0:50:33.280 --> 0:50:37.839 income threat. And anyhow we got back to Perth and 0:50:37.920 --> 0:50:39.560 actually we got on when we were on the plane 0:50:39.600 --> 0:50:42.680 and we got about one hundred ks or so, we 0:50:42.800 --> 0:50:47.640 all sort of started breathing again. And and that part 0:50:47.800 --> 0:50:51.759 went without hitch. But the pearl and the tails of 0:50:51.840 --> 0:50:52.760 the story well. 0:50:52.680 --> 0:50:56.160 Yeah, I mean a lot of the stories to involve 0:50:56.200 --> 0:50:59.279 your mate, the late John Watson and like Gray. So 0:50:59.360 --> 0:51:01.399 you're back there and you reckon, you might have bumped 0:51:01.440 --> 0:51:03.279 into the guy who was the original threat, did you. 0:51:04.160 --> 0:51:06.160 Yeah, we did well, John John On myself and my 0:51:06.239 --> 0:51:09.799 daughter Stacey Weist did a lot of fundraisers down there. 0:51:10.000 --> 0:51:16.920 You know, we played music and whatever and entertained and 0:51:16.920 --> 0:51:19.279 and we did that over and over a number of years, 0:51:19.280 --> 0:51:21.600 and we've become very very close friends with the number 0:51:21.640 --> 0:51:25.840 of the local community. Then it was terrific Tom And 0:51:25.920 --> 0:51:29.480 after about three years one of one of who now 0:51:29.480 --> 0:51:32.000 has a very very good made of mind from there. 0:51:32.080 --> 0:51:35.040 They tapped me on the shoulder and he said, you 0:51:35.080 --> 0:51:37.080 know that issue a couple of years back with the 0:51:37.120 --> 0:51:39.080 Simon Crown. I said yeah, he said, the bloke that 0:51:41.280 --> 0:51:44.440 the key player, he's here and I said, are is 0:51:44.440 --> 0:51:46.120 there going to be an issue? Said no, Park, He's 0:51:46.120 --> 0:51:48.719 sort of there. It was a bad time, he said. 0:51:49.080 --> 0:51:51.879 We all sat down with him and while the visit 0:51:52.000 --> 0:51:54.280 was on and convinced him that it was silly and 0:51:54.440 --> 0:51:55.960 sort of helped him out the best way we could. 0:51:56.040 --> 0:51:58.440 So they actually knew that and they took him, took 0:51:58.480 --> 0:52:00.759 him the way that's right. 0:52:01.320 --> 0:52:04.279 They restrained him. Yeah, they had him in a out 0:52:04.320 --> 0:52:08.800 of town which was which was I'll forever be grateful 0:52:08.840 --> 0:52:13.040 for because forget me, forget Simon Crane. It's just something 0:52:13.080 --> 0:52:16.040 that the State of Western Australia did not want and 0:52:16.080 --> 0:52:18.319 does not want. There are other ways, even when you 0:52:18.400 --> 0:52:21.440 are at your lovest ebb, there are still ways to 0:52:21.520 --> 0:52:25.960 sort things out. And this guy actually was a decent 0:52:26.000 --> 0:52:27.440 bloke and I've had a couple of bees with him 0:52:27.480 --> 0:52:31.319 over the years and things like that, and what concerns 0:52:31.360 --> 0:52:35.560 me forget let's forget the violence and whatever. But in 0:52:35.600 --> 0:52:41.680 my view, policing now is becoming more and more different 0:52:42.239 --> 0:52:45.520 because we're getting issues now with the live sheep export. 0:52:46.360 --> 0:52:49.279 People are taking umorage about the firearms and taking We 0:52:49.360 --> 0:52:54.440 have a significant drought where you have the impact of 0:52:54.440 --> 0:52:57.120 the floods over in New South Wales will be impacting 0:52:57.120 --> 0:53:02.520 on cattle prices here farmers on the very very fine line. 0:53:02.520 --> 0:53:05.560 And this is where polacing in regions and that the 0:53:05.600 --> 0:53:08.080 coppers in the bush are part of the community. It's 0:53:08.080 --> 0:53:09.800 where they need to keep their ears to the ground 0:53:09.880 --> 0:53:12.880 and get out there. And we show with the footy clubs, 0:53:12.880 --> 0:53:16.319 the hockey clubs, the cwas and whatever. And that's a 0:53:16.320 --> 0:53:18.640 part of policing that we did very apparently in those 0:53:18.719 --> 0:53:20.440 days and needs to be done now. I get to 0:53:20.440 --> 0:53:22.840 know your community here. 0:53:22.719 --> 0:53:27.560 Here, we'll come back to parking just a moment. David 0:53:27.560 --> 0:53:33.880 bullardcatcher Parkinson's with today amazing story, Parky, I had no idea. 0:53:34.200 --> 0:53:35.680 I must have missed all of that. I'm not sure 0:53:35.680 --> 0:53:38.480 what I was doing, but that's that's incredible. That blowing 0:53:38.560 --> 0:53:42.760 up railway lines and super gloden banks and threatening federal 0:53:42.760 --> 0:53:46.759 politicians is incredible. We'll come back more Parky after these day. 0:53:46.760 --> 0:53:50.320 Parky Parkins is with us today, former super former, dignitary protection, 0:53:50.600 --> 0:53:53.440 former everything. This is a This is True Detective Our 0:53:53.480 --> 0:53:57.600 segment which is very popular. Parky Frosty has semesters. He 0:53:57.600 --> 0:54:00.560 says during those days that Parky is talking about protest 0:54:00.560 --> 0:54:02.279 group at the street March held up a banner which 0:54:02.320 --> 0:54:05.719 read which bank stylemo farm the bank suit for defamation 0:54:05.760 --> 0:54:08.320 and one damages there though they were the bad boys 0:54:08.400 --> 0:54:12.279 between ninety nineteen ninety four, David wanted to touch on 0:54:12.280 --> 0:54:15.080 this as well. Nineteen seventy six nineteen seventy seven you 0:54:15.160 --> 0:54:17.839 had a bit to do with women in policing and 0:54:18.200 --> 0:54:20.560 you might have met your love your life during this 0:54:20.640 --> 0:54:21.279 time as well. 0:54:22.400 --> 0:54:28.320 Yes, Simon, basically around about seventy ninety seventy five seventy 0:54:28.360 --> 0:54:32.600 six that we had a women Police office and absolute 0:54:32.719 --> 0:54:37.640 true legends of West Australian placing were there. You know, 0:54:37.960 --> 0:54:40.440 some of the most magnificent ladies you did forget. But 0:54:40.520 --> 0:54:43.720 what happened is I think it was around about seventy 0:54:43.760 --> 0:54:50.120 six the government and the WO Police Department decided to 0:54:50.160 --> 0:54:55.360 bring women into policing as general duties police officers, detective 0:54:55.440 --> 0:55:01.000 specialists and whatever on equal pay, which was huge. And 0:55:01.520 --> 0:55:03.640 I was in Calgary at the time, a young copper 0:55:03.719 --> 0:55:06.719 up there, and sadly we had a lot of the 0:55:06.760 --> 0:55:09.920 old sergeants, the old misogynists in those days, who were 0:55:09.960 --> 0:55:12.520 pretty said in their ways, and there was all sorts 0:55:12.560 --> 0:55:15.680 of issues. You know, you know, I can't send the 0:55:15.680 --> 0:55:17.959 bike and a woman out on patrol because if there's 0:55:17.960 --> 0:55:20.319 a fight, the blake's going to look after the woman. 0:55:20.400 --> 0:55:22.600 How you're going to get a hiding? And it was 0:55:22.840 --> 0:55:29.520 just a really really hard time for the female police officers. 0:55:29.600 --> 0:55:31.840 My wife Gil she was the first, I think, to 0:55:31.920 --> 0:55:36.479 come to Kogul under that umbrella. There were women police 0:55:36.520 --> 0:55:39.399 officers there before, but they were basically in a woman 0:55:39.440 --> 0:55:42.520 police section, and they did jobs with the checkers and police, 0:55:42.520 --> 0:55:50.600 particularly with sexual assault victims, particularly with any offenses or whatever. 0:55:50.800 --> 0:55:54.800 And I'm not degrading those ladies because they were pioneers 0:55:54.840 --> 0:56:00.200 and they worked in a very misogynistic environment. And it 0:56:00.239 --> 0:56:05.440 took her quite a while, for probably four or five years, 0:56:05.440 --> 0:56:09.240 maybe a little bit longer, for the women police officers 0:56:09.280 --> 0:56:14.000 to be accepted, not by the general duties troops. Obviously 0:56:14.040 --> 0:56:16.200 you got a young twenty three twenty four year old break. 0:56:16.600 --> 0:56:17.239 I thought it was a. 0:56:17.160 --> 0:56:23.960 Great idea, and across the regions and obviously it was 0:56:24.000 --> 0:56:27.160 the same, but there was this issue, and then of 0:56:27.200 --> 0:56:30.400 course horror, horror, but a Garland I met GALEI came 0:56:30.440 --> 0:56:34.120 to Caldully as a young woman police officer and we 0:56:34.239 --> 0:56:36.360 ended up going out to and we got married in 0:56:36.440 --> 0:56:39.920 nineteen seventy eight. Well, when it was announced that we 0:56:39.920 --> 0:56:42.560 were engaged, I got what we called a red devil 0:56:42.600 --> 0:56:43.040 in the male. 0:56:43.080 --> 0:56:46.040 That was a transfer notice to go yeah, yeah, really, 0:56:46.280 --> 0:56:48.680 so and so and her and I were the first 0:56:48.719 --> 0:56:52.280 one or two to actually get married at that time. 0:56:52.680 --> 0:56:57.239 And then of course, horror of all horror, Simon maternity, 0:56:57.320 --> 0:57:01.719 Dave maternity. So they come and they get pregnant, and 0:57:01.719 --> 0:57:04.960 now I'm one short on my shift. These are the 0:57:04.960 --> 0:57:07.680 these are the issues that the pioneers, and I call 0:57:07.760 --> 0:57:13.440 them pioneers of those days. And then horror, an absolute 0:57:13.480 --> 0:57:16.400 horror story. He assignment for your listeners out there, and 0:57:16.440 --> 0:57:19.520 you know, the tongues firmly planted in there in my cheek. 0:57:19.840 --> 0:57:23.640 One of my one of my very special women police officers, 0:57:23.640 --> 0:57:26.320 a lady by the name of Kathy Bullham, she become 0:57:26.720 --> 0:57:30.720 an officer in charge of a polaystation in the Wheat Belt. Now, 0:57:31.000 --> 0:57:34.200 she was the first horror horror and that was that 0:57:34.360 --> 0:57:37.400 was Darren And then they gave her Caliberan because she 0:57:37.440 --> 0:57:40.120 did such a good job amongst all the fighting and 0:57:40.160 --> 0:57:43.080 the feuds in Caliberan at the time. And Katy went 0:57:43.120 --> 0:57:48.400 on to become a very very professional police superintendent and 0:57:48.480 --> 0:57:52.320 I think her last posting was the District Superintendent of 0:57:52.440 --> 0:57:56.440 the Albany Region. So they'd come a long, long long 0:57:56.480 --> 0:57:59.959 way from from back in those days to now. 0:58:00.360 --> 0:58:02.280 And look, we have no names here, but at the 0:58:02.440 --> 0:58:06.360 current police commander was the first female bomb technician in Australia. 0:58:06.360 --> 0:58:09.040 You had a bit to do with that. And you 0:58:09.080 --> 0:58:12.160 know she was also involved in the bombing of Don 0:58:12.200 --> 0:58:15.120 Hancock and lou Lewis in the driveway and laugh Lane. 0:58:15.200 --> 0:58:17.160 So she's exceptional too. 0:58:18.040 --> 0:58:21.080 She's a tremendous lady. And I will to name her, 0:58:21.280 --> 0:58:26.040 but she's a tremendous lady. When my inspector from the 0:58:26.040 --> 0:58:28.960 Tactical Response Group, who the bomb squad was under the 0:58:29.040 --> 0:58:30.640 end there, came and saw me, so I liked to 0:58:31.600 --> 0:58:37.040 I like to put X up for a bomb training course, 0:58:37.200 --> 0:58:38.960 I said, I don't have an issue with that. Well, 0:58:39.000 --> 0:58:42.360 by Jesus signon, I got flogged. The head of the 0:58:42.440 --> 0:58:45.080 bomb training under the National County Terrorist Plan was in 0:58:45.160 --> 0:58:50.480 New South Wales. He rang me and the expletives that 0:58:50.560 --> 0:58:53.960 came down the line was quite horrendous. You know, what 0:58:54.000 --> 0:58:56.200 the hell do you think you're doing? So that made 0:58:56.280 --> 0:59:02.520 me even more determined. And I saw the Deputy Commissioner 0:59:02.560 --> 0:59:05.120 of Bruce Brennan, who in my view was tremendous fellow. 0:59:05.640 --> 0:59:08.040 He said, Parky, you're in charge if you think this 0:59:08.120 --> 0:59:12.680 lady's good enough. Yes, And so she fought Tooth and 0:59:12.840 --> 0:59:16.560 Narl and probably worked twice as hard than any other 0:59:17.200 --> 0:59:24.560 technician in Australia and overseas. And then she became an outstanding, 0:59:25.000 --> 0:59:31.200 outstanding bomb technician and she virtually, as Mel Brown would say, 0:59:31.240 --> 0:59:34.200 shoved it up them. And then now she's a high 0:59:34.280 --> 0:59:38.360 ranking female police officer who I have the utmost respect for. 0:59:38.560 --> 0:59:42.560 And every police officer from the day or from seventy 0:59:42.560 --> 0:59:46.440 six onwards, just absolutely incredible what they've been through, if 0:59:46.600 --> 0:59:48.960 breaks beyond sick leap, now, if they put up with 0:59:49.000 --> 0:59:51.120 what the women police officers did. 0:59:52.200 --> 0:59:55.040 Mi've got a nineteen year old and she her mate 0:59:55.080 --> 0:59:57.920 from school is just isna is up at Dune up 0:59:57.960 --> 1:00:01.000 training at the moment, Parky. And it's very normal for 1:00:01.240 --> 1:00:03.520 you know, girls of their age to see it as 1:00:03.520 --> 1:00:06.000 a career, as a profession, as an option. It's just normal. 1:00:06.040 --> 1:00:09.600 Now, well, it's incredible. And I've mentioned to you and 1:00:09.640 --> 1:00:13.320 your listeners that in twenty twenty one I worked back 1:00:13.320 --> 1:00:17.120 in with now Governor Chris Dawson in the COVID Command 1:00:17.200 --> 1:00:19.960 Center and we were based in the Offisheries Building office 1:00:20.000 --> 1:00:21.840 of the Highight there and it was a fifty to 1:00:21.880 --> 1:00:25.880 fifty split, fifty percent females fifty percent blokes. A lot 1:00:25.880 --> 1:00:29.480 of the females. There were managers, sergeants and senior sergeants, 1:00:29.520 --> 1:00:33.080 everything like that, and Simon, you wouldn't You could not 1:00:33.200 --> 1:00:39.000 tell the difference between the work ethic the respect of 1:00:39.080 --> 1:00:42.600 all those officers. They're just part of the game now, mate, 1:00:42.960 --> 1:00:46.080 A lot different to what happened. When I can remember 1:00:46.120 --> 1:00:48.560 the look on Gard's face when she first come to Calgury. 1:00:50.280 --> 1:00:52.600 There was a fellow playing up in the PlayStation. He 1:00:52.760 --> 1:00:55.520 was about six foot twelve tour and he was throwing 1:00:55.600 --> 1:00:59.000 us around like bloody nine pins, and she'd walk through 1:00:59.040 --> 1:01:01.480 the door and there. We were thrown up into the 1:01:01.520 --> 1:01:08.200 fans and through windows and she turned round started and 1:01:11.640 --> 1:01:13.640 that was that was just a normal that was just 1:01:13.680 --> 1:01:14.479 a normal days. 1:01:16.320 --> 1:01:19.520 Yeah, yeah, park you could talk to you all day 1:01:19.560 --> 1:01:21.680 on this stuff. Thank you very much for being our 1:01:21.680 --> 1:01:25.000 true detective again today. And I should have mentioned this, 1:01:25.000 --> 1:01:27.080 but Simon Crean died a couple of years ago, Parky 1:01:27.400 --> 1:01:29.480 premature in Germany, didn't he So. 1:01:29.960 --> 1:01:32.600 He did and his brother was lost in the snowfield 1:01:32.640 --> 1:01:34.800 was a few years before that. I don't know what 1:01:34.880 --> 1:01:38.040 they have a family but not Yeah, yeah, tragic family. 1:01:38.120 --> 1:01:39.640 Yeah, good to talk to you, mate, Thank you very 1:01:39.680 --> 1:01:46.960 much for next fortnite. Thank you mate, Dave Parkinson, our 1:01:47.000 --> 1:01:50.919 true detective on the show. Got a million stories. And 1:01:51.760 --> 1:01:55.080 yeah to the to the recruits, upper journal, up the 1:01:55.080 --> 1:01:57.920 female recruits, good luck to here. I think over the 1:01:58.000 --> 1:02:01.400 years we've talked to some of the high sort of 1:02:01.480 --> 1:02:04.320 highly prized recruits that a lot of the female officers 1:02:04.360 --> 1:02:06.520 come through the system, come through the training system and 1:02:06.520 --> 1:02:09.240 marked very very highly in the all the testing, the 1:02:09.280 --> 1:02:13.160 firearms testing. In some cases not as big and as 1:02:13.160 --> 1:02:15.840 physically strong as some of the boys. But they make 1:02:15.880 --> 1:02:18.600 for fine fine coppers, don't they That has been true detective. 1:02:18.600 --> 1:02:19.920 When we come we'll take a little break when we 1:02:19.960 --> 1:02:22.120 come back. Going to speak to Karen Chapel, she's the 1:02:22.160 --> 1:02:25.520 president of WALGA. It was about a year ago. I 1:02:25.560 --> 1:02:28.320 went to a press conference with Karen and Reese Whitby 1:02:28.440 --> 1:02:31.360 was there. He was the Environment Minister. Jackie Jarvis was theirs, 1:02:31.360 --> 1:02:34.360 the agricultural Minister, and they said we're gonna get We're 1:02:34.400 --> 1:02:37.080 going to give the community groups, local government schools seven 1:02:37.080 --> 1:02:39.080 million dollars to plant trees that have been taken out 1:02:39.120 --> 1:02:43.600 by the boor by the polyfagers, shothold borer. No trees. 1:02:43.840 --> 1:02:46.160 None of the money's been spent, is no trees. Stay listening. 1:02:46.560 --> 1:02:48.760 Steve says, you should have party on twice a week. 1:02:49.760 --> 1:02:53.120 Thanks you boy, it's only a four hour show. That's 1:02:53.120 --> 1:02:55.000 a problem, Steve. You can talk and talk and talk. 1:02:55.120 --> 1:02:58.800 Love talking to our true detective Dave Parkinson. He's a ripper, 1:02:58.840 --> 1:03:01.640 isn't he. I'm glad you like Oh, thank you. I 1:03:01.680 --> 1:03:04.640 remember going to in my former job. I went to 1:03:04.680 --> 1:03:07.800 a press conference with Karen Chappel, the president of WELGA, 1:03:08.400 --> 1:03:11.800 and the mayor of the town of vincent In allison' 1:03:11.840 --> 1:03:13.920 zamon and a few other people. Jackie Jarvis was there, 1:03:13.920 --> 1:03:17.240 the Agriculture Minister. Reese Whitby was the Environment minister, and 1:03:17.280 --> 1:03:20.600 at the time it was a plan to put out 1:03:20.640 --> 1:03:23.440 seven million bucks worth of money to replant trees had 1:03:23.480 --> 1:03:27.120 been knocked over, that were replacing trees knocked over because 1:03:27.120 --> 1:03:29.919 of the poly faker shothold borer. I don't know that 1:03:30.080 --> 1:03:33.240 any trees have been planted whatsoever. Karen Chapel is the 1:03:33.240 --> 1:03:35.440 WELGA president, joins me. Now, hey, Karen, I remember that 1:03:35.520 --> 1:03:35.880 day to you. 1:03:36.600 --> 1:03:39.960 Good morning, Simon, Yes, clearly I do, yes, Hyge Park. 1:03:40.240 --> 1:03:45.200 Yeah, So nothing's happened, Karen. What's your understanding why as 1:03:45.240 --> 1:03:46.360 to why nothing's happened. 1:03:47.280 --> 1:03:49.560 I have no understanding as to why nothing has happened. 1:03:49.560 --> 1:03:51.760 But I am I am pleased today that we've got 1:03:51.760 --> 1:03:54.320 the opportunity now to apply to some grants. But it 1:03:54.360 --> 1:03:58.680 doesn't stop us, from a welders perspective, to continue to 1:03:58.920 --> 1:04:04.800 ask the government to strengthen its research capacity. You know, 1:04:05.040 --> 1:04:07.520 we need to put further funding into research and how 1:04:07.520 --> 1:04:10.160 we're going to manage this pest going forward. I mean, 1:04:10.640 --> 1:04:14.120 this announcement is to replace the trees that have been lost, 1:04:14.520 --> 1:04:16.880 and that's not going to be done overnight by any 1:04:16.880 --> 1:04:20.919 stretching imagination, even though the applications are open for six 1:04:20.960 --> 1:04:25.600 weeks and local governments will apply for it, no doubt 1:04:26.160 --> 1:04:28.600 and take their time to replace the trees as they 1:04:28.680 --> 1:04:33.240 see appropriate. But a grave concern to us is that 1:04:33.280 --> 1:04:39.280 this borer is a critical It's critical that we manage 1:04:39.320 --> 1:04:41.680 it and we need to have a plan around that. 1:04:41.720 --> 1:04:46.040 Simon, Yeah, sure, so you know this, and I know this. 1:04:46.080 --> 1:04:50.040 So Clermont's lost trees, Allison's lost trees in Vincent, I 1:04:50.080 --> 1:04:54.040 think Canning's lost trees Bayswater. Do you get a sense 1:04:54.040 --> 1:04:58.520 that the current regime the containment zones are working, Karen, 1:05:00.040 --> 1:05:00.480 But they're. 1:05:00.360 --> 1:05:03.960 Focusing very strongly on the zone Zone A and making 1:05:04.000 --> 1:05:06.320 sure it's contained of the Zone B, which is the 1:05:06.320 --> 1:05:10.000 buffer zone. And I do believe that everybody's working really 1:05:10.040 --> 1:05:13.400 hard to contain it. But however, and the approach seems 1:05:13.440 --> 1:05:16.360 to be not they're not just sort of cutting the 1:05:16.360 --> 1:05:19.480 trees down like they were initially. They're trying everything they 1:05:19.520 --> 1:05:20.760 can to save trees. 1:05:21.280 --> 1:05:21.920 But you would have. 1:05:21.960 --> 1:05:26.200 Heard where Mayor Zamon announced or said the other day 1:05:26.200 --> 1:05:30.160 that the Hyde Parks lost the fight with on a 1:05:30.200 --> 1:05:37.880 couple of the islands. So it's containment is the ultimate goal, 1:05:38.160 --> 1:05:40.800 and it absolutely is the ultimate goal. We don't want 1:05:40.800 --> 1:05:46.240 it to spread at all. However, there's many different prongs 1:05:46.240 --> 1:05:50.840 to this. Recovery is one responses another and looking to 1:05:50.880 --> 1:05:55.720 the future and looking for management is also one of 1:05:55.720 --> 1:05:58.160 the elements that we have to we have to consider. 1:05:58.080 --> 1:06:01.280 Daren, Am I hearing you right that the grants for 1:06:01.440 --> 1:06:04.200 this dough and it was seven point two mill possibly 1:06:04.240 --> 1:06:06.480 up to sixteen thousand trees. I think for every tree 1:06:06.640 --> 1:06:09.120 that we lose to the borer, you could plant three, 1:06:09.160 --> 1:06:12.200 I think I remember requitly saying that. Am I hearing 1:06:12.200 --> 1:06:14.640 that the actual ground round has only just opened? Is 1:06:14.640 --> 1:06:15.200 that what you're saying? 1:06:15.280 --> 1:06:17.360 It's open, Yeah, it's only just open, and it's open 1:06:17.400 --> 1:06:22.560 for six weeks only. It closes on Monday to seventh July, 1:06:23.360 --> 1:06:27.320 and local governments can apply for I think it's eleven 1:06:27.400 --> 1:06:31.800 hundred and forty dollars per tree they've lost, and an 1:06:31.880 --> 1:06:36.160 exception exceptional circumstances they can apply for a larger amount 1:06:36.200 --> 1:06:39.920 of I guess something like I'm money guessing something like 1:06:40.000 --> 1:06:45.680 Hide Park. But it's yeah, there's been over four thousand trees, 1:06:45.680 --> 1:06:48.560 four fifty five hundred and fifteen was the last count 1:06:48.600 --> 1:06:52.480 that we're aware of across the metropolitan area, is right, 1:06:52.560 --> 1:06:55.320 how even not all of that is of course local 1:06:55.360 --> 1:06:58.120 government something something that's private land and today government. 1:06:58.200 --> 1:07:00.160 Four thousand and five that I haven't heard that figure for. 1:07:00.800 --> 1:07:03.800 And that's not just the Morton Bay figs. That's playing 1:07:03.840 --> 1:07:06.360 trees and other species too, Karen, that's all. 1:07:06.560 --> 1:07:09.000 That's all trees. That that's the data that the most 1:07:09.040 --> 1:07:12.400 recent data that we've actually had access to helps us that. 1:07:12.960 --> 1:07:15.920 Yeah, all right, And to go back to where we started. 1:07:16.680 --> 1:07:19.040 Do we know why the grants around us has been 1:07:19.080 --> 1:07:19.720 so delayed? 1:07:20.760 --> 1:07:23.400 Absolutely? I have no idea what we've been We have 1:07:23.520 --> 1:07:27.160 been advocating strongly for this to open so that local 1:07:27.200 --> 1:07:29.240 governments can get on and order their trees and get 1:07:29.400 --> 1:07:32.640 you know, and consider planting them. Now they will be 1:07:32.680 --> 1:07:35.439 able to order them this year and they have three 1:07:35.520 --> 1:07:40.240 years in which to plant those trees. You know, I guess, 1:07:40.960 --> 1:07:47.280 choose the appropriate tree, make the right grounds prepared, and 1:07:47.320 --> 1:07:49.360 then get grant trees back into the ground. 1:07:49.400 --> 1:07:49.600 Yeah. 1:07:49.600 --> 1:07:51.000 That's the other thing where if it is a Morton 1:07:51.000 --> 1:07:53.600 Bay fig, they've got a huge root structure and their 1:07:53.640 --> 1:07:56.000 big trees, and you can't necessarily put the tree back 1:07:56.000 --> 1:07:57.960 in a new tree back in the same spot. 1:07:58.000 --> 1:08:01.040 Hey, well, I'm not a an't it? But I'm assuming 1:08:01.160 --> 1:08:02.800 not No. 1:08:02.560 --> 1:08:07.560 Not a I'm not a I've got a cult from you, 1:08:07.680 --> 1:08:11.000 learned something new every day. You can be a farmer, 1:08:11.000 --> 1:08:13.560 but not a gardener. Karen, that tried. 1:08:13.840 --> 1:08:14.040 You know. 1:08:14.040 --> 1:08:15.320 We can't be perfected everything. 1:08:16.439 --> 1:08:18.479 I'll be good at everything. Hey, Karen, just while I 1:08:18.560 --> 1:08:20.160 have you and I don't know if you've heard or 1:08:20.200 --> 1:08:23.040 if you've chatted to to your gang in it Welga. 1:08:23.360 --> 1:08:25.679 Are Yogu going to get some money out of defense? 1:08:25.800 --> 1:08:28.439 Have have you heard anything on the d RF A 1:08:28.640 --> 1:08:29.120 funny No. 1:08:29.840 --> 1:08:32.720 No, I haven't heard. I've heard the concerns and I'm 1:08:32.840 --> 1:08:38.120 very much aware of the Yelgu, the shop of Ylgu's 1:08:39.320 --> 1:08:41.920 the position there in and that it is a matter 1:08:42.040 --> 1:08:45.760 that DRF Defense are considering. 1:08:46.040 --> 1:08:48.240 Yeah, all right, nice to chat you today, Karen. 1:08:48.280 --> 1:08:51.400 Thank you, Okay, thanks not to see you too, Simon. 1:08:52.040 --> 1:08:56.040 Karen Chappel Welga presidents. So four thy, five hundred and 1:08:56.080 --> 1:08:59.000 fifteen trees in the metro area have been lost to 1:08:59.000 --> 1:09:01.560 the boro. I haven't heard that before, and that's the 1:09:01.680 --> 1:09:04.360 latest figure. That's just I think that's local government tree, 1:09:04.400 --> 1:09:08.360 so there could be more. So have you have you 1:09:08.439 --> 1:09:14.600 had a tree knocked over, shredded, mulched, chipped because of 1:09:14.640 --> 1:09:16.600 the boar in your street, in your neighborhood, or on 1:09:16.640 --> 1:09:19.680 your property. Let me know, one double three eighty two. 1:09:19.880 --> 1:09:22.240 That's that's been a long time coming, that money. And 1:09:22.280 --> 1:09:25.080 as I say, I went to the press conference that 1:09:25.280 --> 1:09:27.000 day with a heap of people from the West and 1:09:27.520 --> 1:09:31.280 all the TV stations were there. Caitlin Rentle was there 1:09:31.320 --> 1:09:36.959 from the West. Everyone was there and the money was announced, 1:09:37.000 --> 1:09:39.120 you know, and Rees Whitby. It does have that reputation. 1:09:39.320 --> 1:09:41.000 Here we go, here's the money, let's talk about this, 1:09:41.120 --> 1:09:44.880 let's meet, let's chat this through. But the Department's taken 1:09:44.880 --> 1:09:47.600 a long time to put the money out. And I 1:09:48.200 --> 1:09:50.640 can't remember whether Reese was the water Minister or the 1:09:50.760 --> 1:09:54.280 environment minister at the time, or perhaps potentially both, but 1:09:54.360 --> 1:09:57.080 Jackie Jarvis was the Minister of every agriculture. Have you 1:09:57.200 --> 1:10:00.360 had a tree knocked down in your neighborhood, either on 1:10:00.439 --> 1:10:03.600 local government land, on your property, on your verge, on 1:10:03.680 --> 1:10:06.040 the meeting strip, down the local park. Let me know 1:10:06.120 --> 1:10:08.519 one double three eight eighty two four five hundred and 1:10:08.560 --> 1:10:13.400 fifteen trees lost to the borer since since it turned 1:10:13.439 --> 1:10:17.600 up in twenty December twenty twenty one, and this and 1:10:17.760 --> 1:10:20.240 this announcement, the seven point two million dollar announcement was 1:10:20.400 --> 1:10:24.400 made just trying to get a date on this on 1:10:24.520 --> 1:10:26.120 the twenty fourth or the eighth last year. So the 1:10:26.160 --> 1:10:29.639 twenty fourth of August last year taking a while, hasn't 1:10:29.640 --> 1:10:31.639 it for the money to become available? It is eight 1:10:31.720 --> 1:10:36.599 eight minutes to eleven geda justin mad here gone good, 1:10:36.640 --> 1:10:36.880 thank you. 1:10:38.600 --> 1:10:41.800 Look I'm just ringing up. I'm now about to have 1:10:42.200 --> 1:10:46.960 a third tree cut down from this bug. I'm up 1:10:47.040 --> 1:10:51.639 in les Murdy And what I've been told is there's 1:10:51.720 --> 1:10:55.120 no compensation. Like I'm about to lose amulberry tree that's 1:10:55.120 --> 1:10:57.080 about fifty sixty years old. 1:10:58.080 --> 1:11:01.559 Yeah right, I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't 1:11:01.600 --> 1:11:04.200 know Mylberys could cop the boar. Is that that's that's 1:11:04.200 --> 1:11:04.879 an in proper. 1:11:06.280 --> 1:11:11.479 Yep, very susceptible pretty much anything that's not native. 1:11:11.560 --> 1:11:12.280 But how's this. 1:11:12.479 --> 1:11:16.519 I've got a native maluca a t tree that's also 1:11:16.720 --> 1:11:20.160 been affected by it. It's got him where I've pruned it. 1:11:22.080 --> 1:11:25.920 Yeah really okay, hey, justin So no compensation. 1:11:26.840 --> 1:11:26.960 Is it? 1:11:27.600 --> 1:11:30.840 Is it worth talking to? So what shire is Lesbon? 1:11:30.920 --> 1:11:32.519 Does you say Les Mardy or come him under? 1:11:32.920 --> 1:11:35.680 Yeah, it's actually it's not the shy that does it. 1:11:35.840 --> 1:11:39.599 It's the government. So the Department of Primary Industries. They 1:11:39.640 --> 1:11:41.519 are the ones that come out, have a look and 1:11:41.640 --> 1:11:45.839 then organize if you want someone, yeah. 1:11:45.840 --> 1:11:46.439 Cut it down? 1:11:46.600 --> 1:11:48.360 Who pays for the who pays for it to be 1:11:48.400 --> 1:11:49.160 cut down? Justin? 1:11:50.479 --> 1:11:55.400 Well, I'd say the government, the Department. I've spoken to him, 1:11:56.600 --> 1:11:59.880 but they they're not that well funded when it comes. 1:12:00.080 --> 1:12:05.360 So do they take it? Do they take the chips away? 1:12:05.720 --> 1:12:05.760 Just? 1:12:05.960 --> 1:12:07.000 Do they dispose of the chips? 1:12:08.040 --> 1:12:08.240 Yeah? 1:12:08.320 --> 1:12:09.000 Yeah, they have to. 1:12:09.160 --> 1:12:12.000 And then you go into a quarantine stage where anything 1:12:12.120 --> 1:12:15.160 over two and a half centimeters can't be removed from 1:12:15.240 --> 1:12:19.080 your property. So you've got to burn it and I'm 1:12:19.160 --> 1:12:21.000 lucky enough to do it up where I am. 1:12:21.360 --> 1:12:25.040 Yeah yeah, yeah, sure, all right mate? So what are 1:12:25.080 --> 1:12:28.080 you going? Maybe you can yeah, in the absence of 1:12:28.160 --> 1:12:30.080 knowing justin, maybe you could talk to the shy up 1:12:30.120 --> 1:12:32.200 there and see if they can help you out with 1:12:32.280 --> 1:12:34.240 some replants. Is it in your back garden? Is it 1:12:34.520 --> 1:12:35.719 or on your property somewhere? 1:12:36.520 --> 1:12:36.720 Yeah? 1:12:36.800 --> 1:12:37.560 Yeah, yeah it is. 1:12:37.800 --> 1:12:40.280 But the thing about it is the show used to 1:12:40.400 --> 1:12:44.280 provide fifteen plants a year, but now they've determined that 1:12:44.320 --> 1:12:47.679 it's more of a lottery. So I just source met mate, 1:12:47.880 --> 1:12:48.080 you know. 1:12:48.840 --> 1:12:52.280 All right, yeah, all right mate. Well maybe ring Darren 1:12:52.360 --> 1:12:54.439 scene or between six and eight on Saturday or Sunday 1:12:54.439 --> 1:12:55.840 he might be able to. He's got a big tree 1:12:55.880 --> 1:12:58.360 farm out in Burlong, mate, maybe he'll spot you up 1:12:58.400 --> 1:13:02.280 public new trees. Thanks justin interesting chat, Thank you mate. 1:13:02.760 --> 1:13:05.080 We have did ask to speak to the new Environment 1:13:05.160 --> 1:13:08.400 Minister Matthew Swinborne. He's in back to back meetings ahead 1:13:08.439 --> 1:13:13.960 of parliamentary sitting, but he hasn't been available. I tell 1:13:13.960 --> 1:13:16.639 you he has been available. Is a lot to this show, 1:13:16.800 --> 1:13:20.679 is Reta Safiotti. Karen says, surely the polyfaker shotthold borer 1:13:20.720 --> 1:13:23.240 problem needs to be eradicated before new trees are planted. Karen, 1:13:23.280 --> 1:13:26.639 there are species known that are not susceptible to the borer. 1:13:27.240 --> 1:13:30.479 There's allest of them. Maybe next time I speak to 1:13:30.560 --> 1:13:33.280 Darren and or Sue we can go through some of those. 1:13:33.320 --> 1:13:36.000 But there are there are trees that the borer can't attack, 1:13:36.760 --> 1:13:39.600 and it's sort of that research is reasonably comprehensive. I 1:13:39.680 --> 1:13:44.280 think one double three eighty two. Thanks for your thoughts 1:13:44.600 --> 1:13:47.559 justin Thanks Karen back in a sec A good song, 1:13:47.680 --> 1:13:49.800 isn't it? Just listening to the bloking les Murdy with 1:13:49.840 --> 1:13:52.599 the disease trees? Why does everyone want compensation these days? 1:13:52.600 --> 1:13:55.040 He's one. Nothing seems to get done and bureaucracy takes 1:13:55.080 --> 1:13:58.240 over with layers and layers of red tapes. Is Tom Tom, 1:13:58.840 --> 1:14:01.559 It's a pest that came through the Freemount of Port 1:14:01.600 --> 1:14:07.280 in twenty twenty one December. I reckon and four thousand 1:14:07.280 --> 1:14:09.040 and five hundred trees have disappeared that we know of. 1:14:09.760 --> 1:14:12.240 And I you know, if you had a tree on 1:14:12.280 --> 1:14:14.200 your property, a fifty year old mulbry tree, and some 1:14:14.360 --> 1:14:18.439 bug that wasn't contained manages to get hold of your 1:14:18.479 --> 1:14:20.839 mulbry tree, I think it would be you would be aggrieved, 1:14:21.000 --> 1:14:23.160 I think. And he's lost three trees, So I take 1:14:23.200 --> 1:14:27.040 your point about compensation, but I know that's what this 1:14:27.439 --> 1:14:30.080 I'm hoping that that's what this money, the seven point 1:14:30.120 --> 1:14:33.560 two million dollars will go towards maybe helping out some 1:14:33.680 --> 1:14:35.760 landowners as well as you know what happens on your 1:14:35.760 --> 1:14:39.719 media industrip and happens on your local park I spoke 1:14:39.800 --> 1:14:42.360 to Thanks Tom, thanks for your corrol mate. I spoke 1:14:42.479 --> 1:14:45.479 to Rita Safiotti earlier on today I wanted to. I 1:14:45.600 --> 1:14:48.040 asked her about the Beer knuckle Fighting Championship that's coming 1:14:48.080 --> 1:14:50.320 to Perth. Could it could be as soon as June? 1:14:51.200 --> 1:14:55.040 So Jamie Burnett from Weekends very cleverly spotted that the 1:14:55.360 --> 1:14:59.519 legislation had been changed and that the Beare Knuckle Fighting 1:14:59.600 --> 1:15:05.120 championsh Ship was now part of the Combat Sports included 1:15:05.160 --> 1:15:08.479 that the Combat Sports Commission oversee. So I asked Rita 1:15:08.640 --> 1:15:11.559 Safaiotti this morning, has she met with Anthony Grover Groves 1:15:12.560 --> 1:15:16.320 number fourteen for Frio rip a bloke, first Aboriginal fellow 1:15:16.360 --> 1:15:18.040 to play two hundred games for FREEO doctors. I know, 1:15:18.200 --> 1:15:20.680 something's very very proud of. But he's also the head 1:15:20.720 --> 1:15:24.080 of the Combat Sports Commission. And I asked Rita if 1:15:24.520 --> 1:15:28.000 she had met with the Commission and with Groves. Here's 1:15:28.040 --> 1:15:28.680 what she had to say. 1:15:29.040 --> 1:15:31.439 Yeah, I did. Actually, both him and Bob Katura came 1:15:31.479 --> 1:15:35.520 in to brief me about the sport and in particular 1:15:36.360 --> 1:15:38.680 what they've been doing in relation to the regulation of 1:15:39.120 --> 1:15:41.360 that sport. In relations to that sport, there were some 1:15:41.479 --> 1:15:45.439 regulatory changes that were made, so those regulations were changed, 1:15:45.520 --> 1:15:47.960 and now there's been an event that's come forward, so 1:15:48.080 --> 1:15:51.200 the Combat Sports Commission is going through that proposed event 1:15:51.560 --> 1:15:54.720 and in particular looking at what additional regulations could be 1:15:54.960 --> 1:15:55.639 put in place. 1:15:56.120 --> 1:16:00.240 When Minister Safiotti spoke about the ben Knuckled Fighting Championships 1:16:00.320 --> 1:16:02.720 last week, she said she could exercise a veto on 1:16:02.760 --> 1:16:05.120 whether the event came here or not, but she obviously 1:16:05.200 --> 1:16:08.960 taking advice from the Combat Sports Commission at this point. 1:16:09.760 --> 1:16:10.439 Brendan's phone in. 1:16:10.520 --> 1:16:10.600 Hi. 1:16:10.680 --> 1:16:12.719 Brennan, Hi Simon. 1:16:13.360 --> 1:16:16.240 Firstly, I don't think it's being luckle fighting as any 1:16:16.320 --> 1:16:19.519 form of sport at all. To me, it's a blood 1:16:19.560 --> 1:16:22.680 sport and I don't really see what regulations kind of 1:16:22.680 --> 1:16:25.560 stop it. I think reader needs to really have a 1:16:25.600 --> 1:16:28.439 look at it from a totally different perspective. We're trying 1:16:28.479 --> 1:16:32.720 to rid our society of all forms of violence and 1:16:32.840 --> 1:16:36.439 domestic violence. These one punch of tax at killing crippled people. 1:16:39.360 --> 1:16:43.960 I just don't see any place for it coming to 1:16:44.080 --> 1:16:47.759 Perth or anything like that. We've got police doing special 1:16:47.840 --> 1:16:53.519 training to handle domestic violent situations. That situation is pretty 1:16:53.560 --> 1:16:56.320 much out of hand. I just do not agree with it. 1:16:56.439 --> 1:16:57.240 Coming here at all? 1:16:57.600 --> 1:16:59.600 Yeah, all right, are you ok ufc. 1:17:01.479 --> 1:17:05.120 Uh well yes or no? But I wouldn't pay to 1:17:05.200 --> 1:17:07.960 go and watch two blokes or two ladies belt the 1:17:08.000 --> 1:17:08.920 hell out of his cellars. 1:17:09.720 --> 1:17:12.519 Yeah all right mate, not so yeah, thanks Brendan. All 1:17:13.400 --> 1:17:16.400 they're all good points, Brendan. It seems it seems pretty brutal, 1:17:16.439 --> 1:17:16.720 doesn't it. 1:17:17.760 --> 1:17:21.280 Well, it does, Simon, and you know we're trying to 1:17:21.320 --> 1:17:25.000 get rude violence out of our society. We never will, 1:17:25.880 --> 1:17:29.559 but I just can't say them what type of people 1:17:29.760 --> 1:17:31.160 would go and pay the watches? 1:17:31.880 --> 1:17:32.080 Yeah? 1:17:32.120 --> 1:17:35.880 That does me, mate. I think really needs to have 1:17:35.920 --> 1:17:37.120 another look at it, I really do. 1:17:37.560 --> 1:17:39.599 Yeah, thanks Brendan, cheers mate, thanks for your thought. It's 1:17:39.640 --> 1:17:42.640 one double three A two is the phone number. So 1:17:42.720 --> 1:17:47.320 Brenda is not a fan of being knuckle boxing. Yeah, 1:17:47.760 --> 1:17:53.599 it's good work by JB spotting that one. If you're listening, Jamie, 1:17:53.760 --> 1:17:57.719 Harold of the Rocks, I think it's two rocks, isn't Harold? 1:17:57.760 --> 1:18:00.920 That's Harold of the Rocks. You European housebor or a 1:18:00.960 --> 1:18:05.759 small hive beetle, hendravirus, bat lissavirus, menangle virus, citrus canker, 1:18:06.040 --> 1:18:09.479 white ants, fire ants, cane toad, European rabbit, red imported 1:18:09.520 --> 1:18:12.720 fire ant, capra beetle, coronavirus, shothold borer. I reckon it's 1:18:12.760 --> 1:18:16.240 time that quarantine services and facilities were improved. You raise 1:18:16.280 --> 1:18:18.439 a very good point, Harold. Thank you mate, thanks for 1:18:18.479 --> 1:18:22.240 getting in touch with us today. Hayden says, with a 1:18:22.320 --> 1:18:25.639 lack of trees around Perth, I personally purchased seeds onlining 1:18:25.800 --> 1:18:29.479 like married chewett Jarramalley's carrying other in endangered shrubs and 1:18:29.479 --> 1:18:31.600 small trees. About twenty of these plants I've germinated. I 1:18:31.760 --> 1:18:35.360 planning these around very soon, Thank you, Hayden. I guess 1:18:35.400 --> 1:18:39.240 the thing with planning natives, big natives like that gum 1:18:39.360 --> 1:18:43.720 trees and eucalypse from seedlings will be quite some time 1:18:43.840 --> 1:18:46.760 before they're you know, a meter tool or two meters 1:18:46.840 --> 1:18:49.920 tall or thirty meters sore won't, Hayden. But good on you. 1:18:50.360 --> 1:18:54.320 I do know from my time on the weekends with 1:18:55.240 --> 1:18:59.280 Dazzcine or and with Sue, that the Muchet Tree Farm 1:19:00.560 --> 1:19:03.920 says sell seedlings, Hayden. Of those species you're talking about, 1:19:03.960 --> 1:19:06.880 and they're about it, they're under two bucks and they're 1:19:06.880 --> 1:19:09.000 already out of the You know they're out of the ground. Mate, 1:19:09.000 --> 1:19:13.680 they're five centimeters toll, so they're a good economical way 1:19:13.720 --> 1:19:17.760 to plant a big gum tree. But excellent work by you. 1:19:17.960 --> 1:19:20.520 Are you a member or have you invested in retirees 1:19:20.720 --> 1:19:25.200 WA story Doing the rounds today, I'll let you know 1:19:25.280 --> 1:19:28.400 what the former CEO of retirees w A has told 1:19:28.439 --> 1:19:30.240 us this morning. We did try and get her on air. 1:19:30.320 --> 1:19:37.160 So they are the subjects of legal action. Have you 1:19:37.240 --> 1:19:40.400 had anything to do with retirees WA. There's some conflicting 1:19:40.520 --> 1:19:43.840 versions of events. Doing the rounds today. Are you a 1:19:43.960 --> 1:19:46.560 member of or have you invested in retirees WA? So 1:19:46.600 --> 1:19:48.960 they are not for profit nursing home, but they also 1:19:49.160 --> 1:19:53.320 offer up cheap funeral services. Stay listening, Thanks for listening 1:19:53.360 --> 1:19:55.840 in today. Any of your thoughts if if you have 1:19:55.960 --> 1:20:00.040 a tree that's been invested by the poly fake a 1:20:00.120 --> 1:20:03.040 shothold borer either on your property, on your medium strip 1:20:03.120 --> 1:20:05.519 down on the park, let me know four five and 1:20:05.560 --> 1:20:09.800 fifteen trees to date since December twenty twenty one, and 1:20:09.880 --> 1:20:12.479 the grant's money's only just becoming available. Eleven o'clock now. 1:20:18.720 --> 1:20:23.080 On Perth six PR. This is Perth Today with Simon Beaumont. 1:20:30.880 --> 1:20:35.559 Thanks listening in deja vu all over again. Remember listening 1:20:35.600 --> 1:20:37.000 to this station. I think I was working at the 1:20:37.000 --> 1:20:39.839 station at the time as well. Remember Martin Whitey twenty 1:20:40.120 --> 1:20:44.240 ten West Australia MP. He had a book out and 1:20:44.360 --> 1:20:46.960 he used to took way back there in twenty ten, 1:20:47.040 --> 1:20:49.000 thank you Sean. He had a book out called Speed 1:20:49.080 --> 1:20:52.920 Up and Sit Still, The Controversies of ADHD Diagnosis and Treatment, 1:20:53.320 --> 1:20:56.160 and it was published in twenty ten, so fifteen years ago, 1:20:57.960 --> 1:21:01.160 and he was saying back then it was being overdiagnosed, 1:21:01.360 --> 1:21:05.040 over prescribed at the time, So back in twenty ten, 1:21:05.120 --> 1:21:11.200 and Martin's campaigned long and hard, even post post MP life, 1:21:11.200 --> 1:21:14.519 if that makes sense. So ADHD one of the most 1:21:14.560 --> 1:21:17.840 commonly diagnosed childhood psychiatric disorders in the Western world, and 1:21:18.120 --> 1:21:23.480 there's a report out today that it's still being overdiagnosed, 1:21:23.600 --> 1:21:27.240 oversubscribed in both children and in adults. So what's been 1:21:27.320 --> 1:21:32.120 your experience in all of this in your world, in 1:21:32.160 --> 1:21:36.800 amongst your friends, your family, your kids. I have had 1:21:36.840 --> 1:21:39.800 some experience with it one of my kids. And it's 1:21:39.800 --> 1:21:44.240 an industry, It's an absolute industry. The number of psychs 1:21:44.280 --> 1:21:47.679 who work in at the expense, the expense of the medication. 1:21:48.680 --> 1:21:51.960 And this is still a condition that I don't know 1:21:52.120 --> 1:21:56.479 is completely understood. It's not a blood test. It's not like, well, 1:21:56.520 --> 1:21:58.680 you have a blood it's not like you don't. It's 1:21:58.720 --> 1:22:01.760 not like a COVID test you've definitely got ADHD or 1:22:01.880 --> 1:22:04.519 you have some measure of anxiety or whatever it is. 1:22:04.600 --> 1:22:08.160 It's an absolute industry, and when one of your kids 1:22:08.240 --> 1:22:10.360 is involved, you don't get a lot of access to 1:22:10.439 --> 1:22:16.080 information because it's private and it's the right of your kids, 1:22:16.160 --> 1:22:19.840 especially if they're over sixteen or fifteen, to they don't 1:22:19.880 --> 1:22:21.400 have to tell you, and the doctor doesn't have the 1:22:21.439 --> 1:22:24.600 GP doesn't have to tell you as to what's going on, 1:22:24.720 --> 1:22:27.760 and the diagnosis is incredibly frustrating. We're going to talk 1:22:27.800 --> 1:22:31.120 about that in just a moment. We have a report 1:22:31.160 --> 1:22:36.160 today that still says it's being overdiagnosed and oversubscribed and 1:22:36.240 --> 1:22:40.439 people have been prescribed medications left, right and center. So 1:22:41.479 --> 1:22:44.240 Martin Whiteley back in twenty ten bought the book out, 1:22:44.520 --> 1:22:46.920 brought the book out, and we're still talking about it 1:22:46.960 --> 1:22:51.840 as being over diagnosed. One double three eighty two coming 1:22:51.920 --> 1:22:53.280 up on the PROGRAMM in just a moment as well. 1:22:53.320 --> 1:22:56.240 Tim Ridan's in from the housing industry of Australia will 1:22:56.280 --> 1:22:58.840 have a look at the housing market in WA. Cam 1:22:58.920 --> 1:23:01.120 Laid's coming in as well from summ At Homes. We're 1:23:01.120 --> 1:23:03.280 looking into the housing industry and market around w A. 1:23:03.560 --> 1:23:06.679 Is it easy? Do we have more supply of product? 1:23:06.720 --> 1:23:09.439 Do we have more supply of labor? We've got enough 1:23:09.600 --> 1:23:15.200 roof carpenter's and roof plumbers and Bricky's chippies. Do we 1:23:15.280 --> 1:23:17.439 have enough of all that? How we going in w 1:23:17.560 --> 1:23:18.760 A at the moment. We'll talk about that in just 1:23:18.840 --> 1:23:21.519 a second. A bit of correspondence coming in on beer 1:23:21.600 --> 1:23:25.759 knuckle fighting after Brandon's call get rid of beer knuckle 1:23:25.800 --> 1:23:29.880 Fighting and retas is one of our listeners Shane says, 1:23:30.280 --> 1:23:34.200 which I don't subscribe to. Shanes says, is safjoty trying 1:23:34.240 --> 1:23:36.599 to encourage violence or curbits. There's a lot of contradiction 1:23:36.680 --> 1:23:41.160 in her points of view. John's SEMs is provocative and 1:23:41.720 --> 1:23:43.880 thought provoking. UFC is not violence. When it's done in 1:23:43.920 --> 1:23:46.960 the ring, it's sport. If it's done on the street, 1:23:46.960 --> 1:23:49.320 it's violence. We don't ban AFL if I jump up 1:23:49.360 --> 1:23:50.840 on someone's back and need him in the back of 1:23:50.880 --> 1:23:53.120 the head on the street there's violence, it's sport on 1:23:53.160 --> 1:23:56.000 the footy field. Thanks John, good perspective. Cheers mate, cad 1:23:56.040 --> 1:23:56.720 a Bruce. 1:23:58.200 --> 1:23:58.360 Mate. 1:23:58.400 --> 1:24:00.400 John made a damn good point there. Same thing with 1:24:00.560 --> 1:24:03.479 rugby spear tackle someone on a rugby field of sports 1:24:03.520 --> 1:24:07.599 spear tackle on the street and it's violence. Yeah, it's 1:24:07.800 --> 1:24:10.680 it's BKFSA at the moment before it was UFC. It 1:24:10.760 --> 1:24:13.439 doesn't matter what the what the sport is or the 1:24:13.520 --> 1:24:17.120 combat sport is. People complain. Now sports have rules and 1:24:17.880 --> 1:24:20.000 points scoring system, which is combat sports. 1:24:20.040 --> 1:24:20.280 Do that? 1:24:20.280 --> 1:24:23.000 Then people go and say it's a blood sport. Well, 1:24:23.080 --> 1:24:25.640 blood sport or not. Still got the words sport in it, 1:24:25.800 --> 1:24:26.200 doesn't it. 1:24:26.760 --> 1:24:29.120 Now a lot of the people going. 1:24:28.960 --> 1:24:31.439 On about readers trying to encourage violence, and you know, 1:24:31.479 --> 1:24:33.839 we've got a problem with violence in our society and everything, 1:24:33.960 --> 1:24:37.879 and I can see what they're saying. However, the average 1:24:38.400 --> 1:24:42.679 combat sports or blood sport enthusiast or watcher or supporter 1:24:43.280 --> 1:24:46.960 isn't someone who's actually actively participating in martial arts and 1:24:47.040 --> 1:24:50.439 training themselves. Majority of them just don't. They just enjoy it. 1:24:50.960 --> 1:24:53.800 But you'd find that people who actually do enjoy the 1:24:53.880 --> 1:24:56.320 sport and watching it and engage in martial arts and 1:24:56.439 --> 1:25:00.679 even fighters themselves. They are not the people going out fights. 1:25:00.720 --> 1:25:03.360 They are not the people going out doing coward punches. 1:25:03.400 --> 1:25:06.599 They are not the people being violent in the streets. 1:25:06.720 --> 1:25:09.160 They are the ones controlling themselves, are the ones who 1:25:09.200 --> 1:25:12.800 are diffusing situations unless they actually have something happened to 1:25:12.880 --> 1:25:13.880 them in the first place. 1:25:14.800 --> 1:25:20.200 Okay, yeah, all right mate, Hey yeah, good. Thanks your thoughts, Bruce. 1:25:20.520 --> 1:25:24.040 I'll percolate on those. I'll have a little think about that. Cheers, mate, 1:25:24.080 --> 1:25:27.400 Thank you for your thoughts. I think I think did 1:25:27.439 --> 1:25:29.799 I read something in the in one of the papers 1:25:29.840 --> 1:25:32.040 that I read this morning. There's some new research to 1:25:32.120 --> 1:25:36.400 say that people who do coward punch can hit people 1:25:37.360 --> 1:25:40.400 men in their twenties, and they're out at night, So 1:25:40.439 --> 1:25:44.320 the assaults are happening at nighttime, mostly enacted by men 1:25:44.360 --> 1:25:47.080 in their twenties. I think I read that somewhere today, 1:25:47.160 --> 1:25:50.960 which sounds about right, doesn't it. What do you reckon listeners? 1:25:51.160 --> 1:25:54.000 The bare knuckle Fighting Championships will be you know, will 1:25:54.040 --> 1:25:57.400 be held under certain conditions. There'll be a doctor at ringside, 1:25:57.520 --> 1:26:02.720 there'll be some rules around that, there'll be it looks 1:26:02.760 --> 1:26:05.000 like the Combat Sports Commissioner pushing for the fighters to 1:26:05.040 --> 1:26:07.360 be of a certain experience. We had heard from one 1:26:07.400 --> 1:26:12.439 of our listeners that the BKFC organizers were shopping around 1:26:12.439 --> 1:26:14.519 town to try and find some fighters for the undercart. 1:26:15.520 --> 1:26:18.200 That's what we've heard. It's thirteen minutes past eleven, geda 1:26:18.320 --> 1:26:22.960 Louise Luisa there, can you hear me? 1:26:23.800 --> 1:26:23.960 Yes? 1:26:24.120 --> 1:26:24.920 Yes, I am yeah? 1:26:25.000 --> 1:26:25.080 Hi? 1:26:25.439 --> 1:26:27.120 How you go good? 1:26:27.160 --> 1:26:27.840 How are you good? 1:26:27.880 --> 1:26:28.000 Thing? 1:26:28.160 --> 1:26:30.400 Adhd Yes? 1:26:30.640 --> 1:26:32.439 Yeah, I was calling about the fact that you said 1:26:32.479 --> 1:26:38.120 that it's being over diagnosed. I'm Fortgaton was diagnosed last year, 1:26:38.760 --> 1:26:42.000 and it's being talked about a lot these days because 1:26:42.160 --> 1:26:45.360 so many women of my age who are finally being 1:26:46.000 --> 1:26:49.880 diagnosed with it instead of being misdiagnosed for years with 1:26:49.920 --> 1:26:53.160 things like anxiety or just all other thought depression and 1:26:53.200 --> 1:26:54.400 all those sorts of conditions. 1:26:57.080 --> 1:26:57.280 Yeah. 1:26:57.320 --> 1:27:00.920 So it's just really frustrating because, yeah, you hear this 1:27:00.960 --> 1:27:03.080 sort of stuff all the time. It's been over diagnosed 1:27:03.080 --> 1:27:04.519 and all that sort of thing, but it's not it's 1:27:04.640 --> 1:27:06.360 just that for years women missed. 1:27:07.520 --> 1:27:10.519 So yeah, women, this is this report is coming out. 1:27:10.520 --> 1:27:12.640 You know, I can only express my frustration having a 1:27:12.720 --> 1:27:17.360 kid and I just you know, just and kids in 1:27:17.439 --> 1:27:20.240 particular do talk amongst themselves, Louise, you know that the 1:27:20.360 --> 1:27:23.640 peer pressure and there's a bit of a badge that 1:27:23.800 --> 1:27:26.000 goes with at least I now know what what I've gotten. 1:27:26.120 --> 1:27:28.679 Now we can address it. But there is a report, 1:27:28.720 --> 1:27:30.639 there is a report out today and it comes from 1:27:30.840 --> 1:27:34.760 psychiatrists that it's been diagnosed, and I appreciate it. So 1:27:34.800 --> 1:27:35.240 it's made a. 1:27:35.240 --> 1:27:44.520 Difference to you, right, because obviously women, girls prevent. 1:27:45.800 --> 1:27:47.080 Differently to boys. 1:27:47.280 --> 1:27:52.160 Yeah, okay, yeah, Louise, I'm not I'm not cutting you off. 1:27:52.240 --> 1:27:53.800 Just try and move. I can't hear because your phone 1:27:53.840 --> 1:27:55.400 is a glitchy. Just move a bit if you will. 1:27:56.640 --> 1:27:56.840 Yep. 1:27:58.600 --> 1:27:59.679 Yeah, so you're gone. 1:28:00.800 --> 1:28:01.280 Is that better? 1:28:01.439 --> 1:28:03.040 Yeah, yep. 1:28:03.560 --> 1:28:07.080 Yeah. So it's just it's it explains my whole sort 1:28:07.120 --> 1:28:09.439 of childhood. And then he has also explained a lot 1:28:09.479 --> 1:28:12.559 of issues that I've had, you know, even when you're 1:28:12.600 --> 1:28:14.360 like becoming a mother and all of that sort of thing. 1:28:15.320 --> 1:28:18.599 And also also a lot of women at my age 1:28:18.600 --> 1:28:21.840 are in ferry menopause and that's when the symptoms are 1:28:21.840 --> 1:28:24.760 actually exacerbated, and that's why so many of us are 1:28:24.840 --> 1:28:26.000 actually getting diagnosed. 1:28:26.200 --> 1:28:29.040 Yeah, all right, good luck, Louis. He thinks it's calling 1:28:29.120 --> 1:28:29.439 us today. 1:28:30.439 --> 1:28:30.720 Thank you. 1:28:30.960 --> 1:28:32.559 How it goes well, gid I, Frank. 1:28:33.880 --> 1:28:37.680 Yes, good morning woman. Bare knuckle fighting was banned over 1:28:37.760 --> 1:28:41.879 one hundred years ago. It's violent and brutal and dismiss 1:28:41.960 --> 1:28:45.280 Pepper Rottio thinks that this is a good example there 1:28:45.320 --> 1:28:48.680 our young people, the violence in the city of a 1:28:48.760 --> 1:28:50.840 Friday and Saturday night. I don't go into your own 1:28:50.880 --> 1:28:55.040 Northbridge anymore. This is a really bad example. And cage fighting, 1:28:55.439 --> 1:28:57.320 so I've even gone even more so he's gone from 1:28:57.439 --> 1:29:00.640 cage fighting to bare knuckle fighting. What you're going to 1:29:00.680 --> 1:29:04.200 pull in the next ball fighting? I mean it's absolutely outrageous. 1:29:04.560 --> 1:29:07.160 And being a woman, I thought you'd have more sense, 1:29:07.200 --> 1:29:10.759 but unfortunately she hasn't. So she's just vi she's following 1:29:10.920 --> 1:29:13.760 orders from her boss or not. But the Labor Party 1:29:13.840 --> 1:29:16.599 ought to be ashamed of themselves bringing all these violent 1:29:16.680 --> 1:29:18.120 sports into Western Australia. 1:29:18.520 --> 1:29:23.120 All right, thanks, thanks Frank. I don't know what her 1:29:23.200 --> 1:29:26.639 being a woman has to do with it in my view, 1:29:26.680 --> 1:29:28.479 but appreciate your thoughts. 1:29:28.960 --> 1:29:29.360 Yeah, the. 1:29:31.000 --> 1:29:33.439 It was it was banned, wasn't it. So UFC was 1:29:33.479 --> 1:29:37.040 banned in this state under Columbardeed and tuck Waldron Sports 1:29:37.040 --> 1:29:40.479 Minister kayetuck If you're listening. Labor brought it back in. 1:29:40.600 --> 1:29:43.160 We've had UFC fights here in Perth. You know that 1:29:43.320 --> 1:29:48.320 the main game, the promotional arm of MMA has been 1:29:48.400 --> 1:29:51.600 here in Perth. But now this is a this is 1:29:51.680 --> 1:29:53.920 a next step. This is a progression or a bracket 1:29:53.960 --> 1:29:57.679 creep of what we're tolerating as sport. There's no question 1:29:57.760 --> 1:30:01.040 about that. Six sixteen minutes past eleven o'clock is the 1:30:01.080 --> 1:30:03.640 sideline and this is this related I do today? Is 1:30:03.680 --> 1:30:06.080 the sideline behavior of parents in junior sports still an issue? 1:30:06.080 --> 1:30:07.799 The yes are twenty two and the nose are eleven. 1:30:09.600 --> 1:30:10.920 I'll come back to you. I'm going to speak to 1:30:12.160 --> 1:30:14.280 Pat McGrory and just the mame Professor Pat McGrory. Sir 1:30:14.360 --> 1:30:18.280 Patrick was the Australian of the Year a while back 1:30:18.320 --> 1:30:24.840 and he's a strong advocate on mental health issues. Stay listening, Yeah, 1:30:24.880 --> 1:30:27.120 thanks for listening in It is nineteen minutes or twenty 1:30:27.160 --> 1:30:30.200 minutes past eleven. Thanks for your thoughts. We are running 1:30:30.200 --> 1:30:32.240 a poll today, do you yes? 1:30:32.360 --> 1:30:32.400 No? 1:30:32.520 --> 1:30:36.240 Poll? Is the sideline behavior of parents in junior sports 1:30:36.280 --> 1:30:38.760 still an issue here in Perth in Western Australia. The 1:30:38.880 --> 1:30:42.479 yes are twenty two and the nose eleven. Thanks for 1:30:42.920 --> 1:30:44.599 your thoughts and all of that. Will keep a tally 1:30:44.720 --> 1:30:47.080 right through until the end of the day. Still to 1:30:47.160 --> 1:30:48.760 come on the program, We've got the guys from the 1:30:48.800 --> 1:30:52.160 Housing Industry Association of Australia will be in. We're going 1:30:52.200 --> 1:30:55.240 to talk about the housing market after eleven thirty. After 1:30:55.320 --> 1:30:59.280 twelve o'clock today, it's the final episode of the final 1:30:59.439 --> 1:31:03.519 season of Handmaid's Tale is on pretty much as we speak. 1:31:03.560 --> 1:31:05.479 I think I think it's been broadcast as we speak. 1:31:05.840 --> 1:31:07.960 We're going to talk about TV series that you're bailed 1:31:08.000 --> 1:31:10.920 out of. TV series that you're bailed out of at 1:31:11.000 --> 1:31:13.840 some point, is rather than talk about series that you've 1:31:13.880 --> 1:31:16.200 seen all the way through l like six seasons of 1:31:16.320 --> 1:31:19.760 Handmaid's Tale. Are you did you barl out of something? 1:31:20.600 --> 1:31:22.559 We'll talk about that after mid day today and Craig 1:31:22.600 --> 1:31:24.760 Bloxham will join us in about an hour's time. Craig 1:31:25.280 --> 1:31:28.320 is the lead singer and guitarist from The Spies from 1:31:28.400 --> 1:31:31.799 Spy Versus Spy heading back to Perth, got some new material. 1:31:31.880 --> 1:31:34.600 What a band they were? Hey, they're always second or 1:31:34.680 --> 1:31:38.240 third on the support bill, weren't they. Spies saw them 1:31:38.439 --> 1:31:41.639 heaps of times in pubs and a big big concerts, 1:31:41.720 --> 1:31:45.559 Spy versus Spies. Craig Bloxham, leads singer, sing a songwriter, guitarist, 1:31:45.920 --> 1:31:48.759 will join us in about an hour's time to reflect 1:31:48.800 --> 1:31:52.240 on the like and time of the Spies. Professor Patrick 1:31:52.320 --> 1:31:56.360 McGrory AO is a psychiatrist Professor of Youth Mental Health 1:31:56.360 --> 1:31:59.040 at the University of Melbourne. Former Australian of the Year. 1:31:59.280 --> 1:32:01.080 Though I speak as you've been Australia of the Year 1:32:01.200 --> 1:32:03.360 or as in Astrainia of the Year. HALLI Patrick, good. 1:32:03.240 --> 1:32:06.880 To told you, thank you, good afternoon, good morning. 1:32:06.960 --> 1:32:10.400 Yes, sorry, yeah, nice to have you on the show today. 1:32:10.520 --> 1:32:14.160 So there is a warning out today and this has 1:32:15.280 --> 1:32:19.680 has been reported in the Herald Sun in Melbourne two 1:32:19.760 --> 1:32:25.200 prominent psychosis woman overdiagnosed and over medication of ADHD is 1:32:25.760 --> 1:32:30.200 an issue and we're seeing as profit driven diagnosis, soft 1:32:30.240 --> 1:32:34.759 the symptom criteria, inconsistent treatment standards across the living stresses, 1:32:34.800 --> 1:32:36.599 academic pressure and social media influence. 1:32:36.640 --> 1:32:40.360 What do you think, Well, it's a mixed picture. Actually 1:32:40.960 --> 1:32:44.639 there's an underdiagnosis as well. I spent the day yesterday 1:32:44.680 --> 1:32:47.479 in a headspace in New South Wales. I saw fifteen 1:32:47.520 --> 1:32:51.320 young people and more than half of them were referred 1:32:51.439 --> 1:32:56.200 for assessment or reassessment for ADHD as along with everything else. 1:32:56.280 --> 1:32:59.880 And these are people who can't afford the private clinic, 1:33:00.400 --> 1:33:02.760 so we're seeing them in a free service at Headspace, 1:33:03.400 --> 1:33:07.800 and nearly all of them had a genuine case of ADHD, 1:33:07.960 --> 1:33:10.719 and many of them are responding very well to treatment, 1:33:10.760 --> 1:33:14.679 So it's a real thing. It does respond to treatment, 1:33:14.800 --> 1:33:19.480 especially when it's more obvious and severe, and particularly when 1:33:19.520 --> 1:33:22.560 it clearly starts in childhood. But what we've seen in 1:33:22.640 --> 1:33:26.280 recent years is kind of a shift in the criteria, 1:33:26.720 --> 1:33:30.400 so we are able to include in the diagnose people 1:33:30.520 --> 1:33:32.719 down the much milder or shallower end of the pool 1:33:33.080 --> 1:33:36.840 because it is a spectrum and it's much less clear 1:33:36.920 --> 1:33:40.960 cut whether these people are going to benefit from diagnosis 1:33:41.040 --> 1:33:44.280 and treatment. They think they will because they're seeking the diagnosis. 1:33:44.360 --> 1:33:47.360 There's a huge consumer pressure to get the diagnosis amongst 1:33:47.960 --> 1:33:50.840 these people. But there is something wrong with them. They 1:33:50.880 --> 1:33:56.599 are they are feeling that life is not good for them. 1:33:56.680 --> 1:33:59.920 But whether it's ADHD or something else, and it's very 1:34:00.000 --> 1:34:01.960 easy to fit into the milder end of the spectrum 1:34:01.960 --> 1:34:05.280 because the symptoms involved stuff that all of us might 1:34:05.320 --> 1:34:08.320 have problems with them. Times a time, So it's a 1:34:08.400 --> 1:34:11.639 mixture of underdiagnosed and I think misdiagnosis as well. 1:34:12.400 --> 1:34:15.960 That's very interesting. So the data itself, Patrick comes out 1:34:16.000 --> 1:34:19.400 from the Australian Institute of Health and Welfare, and I 1:34:19.439 --> 1:34:23.160 saw that. Yeah, they're reflecting a ten percent increase on 1:34:23.439 --> 1:34:27.280 last year for under eighteen patients. What is that because 1:34:27.360 --> 1:34:31.400 we have we changed the criteria of diagnosis, the symptoms. 1:34:32.200 --> 1:34:36.120 Yeah, yeah, it's easier to get the diagnosis now. But 1:34:36.439 --> 1:34:39.200 in younger people it's probably less likely to be misdiagnosed 1:34:39.240 --> 1:34:43.360 because it is a disorder, neurodevelopmental disorder. It's supposed to 1:34:43.360 --> 1:34:47.200 be at its peak in primary school really, and the 1:34:47.320 --> 1:34:49.160 old idea was that it got better as you got 1:34:49.200 --> 1:34:50.760 older and you more or has grew out of it 1:34:50.840 --> 1:34:52.760 in most cases, so people recovered from it. There was 1:34:52.760 --> 1:34:56.840 a recovery pathway from it. But you know, people have 1:34:56.960 --> 1:35:00.320 rethought that without a huge amount of evidence. Think and 1:35:00.680 --> 1:35:03.320 they're allowing people in adult lives to be diagnosed for 1:35:03.400 --> 1:35:03.960 the first time. 1:35:04.080 --> 1:35:04.200 Now. 1:35:04.400 --> 1:35:07.400 Some of those people will have been missed in childhood 1:35:07.600 --> 1:35:10.800 because it was underdiagnosed in the past. But there's another 1:35:10.880 --> 1:35:15.120 group who are struggling in various ways and they've lapped 1:35:15.160 --> 1:35:18.080 onto this very popular sort of label if you like, 1:35:18.600 --> 1:35:22.320 and putting a lot of pressure I think on prescribers. 1:35:22.840 --> 1:35:25.080 And of course some of the prescribers are exploiting that 1:35:25.680 --> 1:35:28.280 because it's in the private practice world, it's a market. 1:35:28.520 --> 1:35:31.760 So these are very large co claimers that some psychiatrists 1:35:31.800 --> 1:35:33.599 are charging are pretty worrying. 1:35:35.040 --> 1:35:38.120 Speaking to Patrick McGrory, listeners the professors with us today 1:35:38.240 --> 1:35:42.920 talking about this new data that seems to reflect Yeah, 1:35:43.600 --> 1:35:48.040 a perfect storm of a number of factors. Well, the optics, 1:35:48.160 --> 1:35:51.519 So Patrick, I've got a family member and some experience 1:35:51.560 --> 1:35:56.559 with headspace and were professional services as well that aren't 1:35:56.600 --> 1:35:59.720 not for profits. What about the optics? He does look 1:35:59.760 --> 1:36:00.760 like in industry, doesn't it. 1:36:02.439 --> 1:36:04.720 Yeah, Well, this is why the federal government's commitments in 1:36:05.000 --> 1:36:09.000 the election campaign, which we're actually matched by the coalition too, 1:36:09.040 --> 1:36:13.720 to be fair, of expanding the free mental health care 1:36:13.760 --> 1:36:17.479 for young people, you know, by boosting headspace capacity and 1:36:17.600 --> 1:36:22.280 also building a backup system, a more specialized expert mental 1:36:22.320 --> 1:36:25.160 health care sitting behind headspace for the more complex cases. 1:36:25.280 --> 1:36:29.120 So that means that the healthcare will be more equitable 1:36:29.280 --> 1:36:32.200 for young people, for children and young people, and it 1:36:32.320 --> 1:36:35.120 has been because we've had a two tiered system. You know, 1:36:35.200 --> 1:36:37.840 the public system has been very poorly funded in the past, 1:36:39.200 --> 1:36:41.720 and you've got this private system, which involves most of 1:36:41.840 --> 1:36:45.080 private psychiatry and corporates are actually getting to this ADHD 1:36:45.720 --> 1:36:51.200 sort of trend as well, So it was getting very inequitable. 1:36:51.280 --> 1:36:53.200 So if you had money, you could sort of almost 1:36:53.240 --> 1:36:58.160 purchase the diagnosis and the treatment, whereas if you're a 1:36:58.280 --> 1:37:01.400 normal person, even it's been out of reach. So I 1:37:01.439 --> 1:37:05.560 think in general getting access to mental health care for 1:37:05.680 --> 1:37:08.479 young people, only fifty percent of young people do get 1:37:08.640 --> 1:37:11.519 access in a timely way to quality mental health care, 1:37:12.120 --> 1:37:15.240 and the federal governs is boosting that, and there is 1:37:15.320 --> 1:37:17.519 a genuine rise in mental illness and young people. We've 1:37:17.520 --> 1:37:20.120 seen a fifty percent jump in all formats of mental 1:37:20.120 --> 1:37:23.000 illness across the last fifteen years. So I'm just a 1:37:23.040 --> 1:37:26.280 bit concerned that this kind of soft aspect of things 1:37:26.400 --> 1:37:31.040 might discredit and turn attention away from the real needs 1:37:31.040 --> 1:37:33.479 that people actually do have, and the people who desperately 1:37:33.560 --> 1:37:37.840 need help, including quite a proportion of the people with ADHD, 1:37:38.320 --> 1:37:42.360 they might miss out because of the behavior of the 1:37:42.439 --> 1:37:44.479 people down the marder end of the pool, and also 1:37:44.560 --> 1:37:47.919 people who haven't really properly diagnosed. 1:37:47.920 --> 1:37:48.360 Those people. 1:37:49.160 --> 1:37:51.559 Well, one of our listeners has phoning through to say 1:37:51.600 --> 1:37:55.160 that she's in her in her late forties and she's 1:37:55.240 --> 1:37:58.439 a postmenopausal and she said she's just been diagnosed and 1:37:58.439 --> 1:38:00.600 it's made a world of difference to her. She was 1:38:00.640 --> 1:38:04.120 probably misdiagnosed for years and years and years. So she 1:38:04.920 --> 1:38:09.920 was an example of what you're talking about. Professor. We 1:38:09.960 --> 1:38:11.920 appreciate your time talking to us here in Perth. 1:38:11.920 --> 1:38:14.000 Thank you very much, Thank you very much. 1:38:14.040 --> 1:38:16.559 No, I just come quickly on that one. That's an 1:38:16.560 --> 1:38:19.120 example of a genuine case that was missed. But I 1:38:19.160 --> 1:38:24.000 think we're seeing other people who present in the same way. 1:38:24.080 --> 1:38:26.639 They don't get the same benefit either as this lady 1:38:26.680 --> 1:38:28.920 actually has. So we've got to be a lot more 1:38:29.240 --> 1:38:30.720 sophisticated about how we go about this. 1:38:31.320 --> 1:38:34.439 Yeah, all right, thanks you time, professor. Thank you, have 1:38:34.520 --> 1:38:39.560 a good afternoon. Professor Patrick mcgory ao former Astrayan of 1:38:39.640 --> 1:38:44.280 the Year, So he contests this information. Certainly. My experience 1:38:44.680 --> 1:38:47.320 is that it feels like it's an industry, and it 1:38:47.360 --> 1:38:50.240 feels like this doctor shopping and it feels like in 1:38:50.720 --> 1:38:54.639 the subject to a lot of interpretation. So the criteria change. 1:38:54.800 --> 1:38:57.599 The symptom criteria have changed. And as I say, it's 1:38:57.960 --> 1:39:02.000 you know you, if you buy in and you suspend 1:39:02.040 --> 1:39:03.960 your disbelief and believe that it is a condition and 1:39:04.040 --> 1:39:05.920 it's having an impact on your kid or your friends 1:39:06.000 --> 1:39:08.519 or your family, you're buying, you commit yourself to. It 1:39:08.640 --> 1:39:11.040 is still it's difficult to understand if you don't have 1:39:11.160 --> 1:39:14.639 mental health issues yourself. It's not easy and it has 1:39:15.600 --> 1:39:17.400 and it's changing all the time. I made the comment 1:39:17.439 --> 1:39:20.760 that Martin Whiteley was talking about over subscription and over 1:39:20.880 --> 1:39:24.280 diagnosis back in twenty ten. This reports out today and 1:39:24.320 --> 1:39:27.320 it's suggesting exactly what Martin Wichaeley was talking about in 1:39:27.439 --> 1:39:30.800 twenty ten, twenty nine past eleven. We will take a break. 1:39:31.200 --> 1:39:33.400 When we come back, we'll have the guy one of 1:39:33.439 --> 1:39:35.400 the We'll have Tim Redd and he's the chief economist 1:39:35.760 --> 1:39:39.920 from the Housing Industry Association of Australia and cam Laide 1:39:40.240 --> 1:39:42.240 who's with SUMM at Home. So join me in the studio. 1:39:42.439 --> 1:39:44.120 We're going to talk building here in WA. 1:39:54.600 --> 1:39:57.240 Good news and earlier crash in a Bentley Leech Highway 1:39:57.320 --> 1:40:00.360 westbound at the Manning Road intersection has been clear things 1:40:00.400 --> 1:40:04.280 moving safely there. Otherwise Mitchell Qwanana Graham Farmer and the 1:40:04.320 --> 1:40:07.840 tunnel all moving well, the major delays across the CBD. 1:40:08.360 --> 1:40:13.120 I'm Rob Beaver on Path Traffic Leader six PR. Yeah, 1:40:13.160 --> 1:40:15.760 thanks you company. Today we'll talk to Owe Clear in 1:40:15.800 --> 1:40:17.240 just a moment from Sere and Partners we get an 1:40:17.280 --> 1:40:18.880 update on the market. I just want to remind our 1:40:18.920 --> 1:40:22.000 listeners that six PR will be taking a continuous call 1:40:22.160 --> 1:40:25.439 tomorrow evening of the State of Origin Game one, the 1:40:25.760 --> 1:40:29.120 Queensland versus New South Wales game the Blues versus the Marons. 1:40:29.439 --> 1:40:31.679 We'll be taking that very exciting Perth Bears are coming 1:40:31.760 --> 1:40:35.280 to Western Australia as you know, but six PR will 1:40:35.320 --> 1:40:38.320 be right alongside them. But we are broadcasting game one 1:40:38.360 --> 1:40:41.240 of the State of Origin series and Game two will 1:40:41.320 --> 1:40:43.400 of course be in Perth out of the stadium, so 1:40:44.280 --> 1:40:46.439 we will keep you across that and let you know 1:40:46.560 --> 1:40:49.320 that it's on tomorrow night. The festivity start sort of 1:40:49.360 --> 1:40:52.000 around that five six o'clock marker Perth time, so I'll 1:40:52.720 --> 1:40:54.400 just make sure you listen to Skeed if he's on 1:40:54.479 --> 1:40:56.600 for a little while. But the first game of the 1:40:56.640 --> 1:40:59.000 State of Origin series will be with you tomorrow night. 1:40:59.280 --> 1:41:03.479 Let's do this on per six pr the stock market report. 1:41:04.200 --> 1:41:06.800 Owe Clear joins us from Shore and Partners. We have 1:41:06.800 --> 1:41:09.400 an update from Telster ohe good morning to you. 1:41:10.600 --> 1:41:11.519 Good morning to you, Simon. 1:41:11.600 --> 1:41:15.000 Telstra held their investor day this morning and they announced 1:41:15.000 --> 1:41:19.519 something called their Connected Future thirty strategy. The Telstra CEO, 1:41:19.680 --> 1:41:23.680 Vicky Brady explained that this five year plan means that 1:41:23.800 --> 1:41:27.320 Telstra will be looking at their business in three layers. Firstly, 1:41:27.400 --> 1:41:30.200 the customer layer, they want to consistently be among the 1:41:30.360 --> 1:41:34.080 top ten strongest brands in Australia. Then there's the network 1:41:34.200 --> 1:41:36.640 layer that's their mobile and fixed line network that they 1:41:36.680 --> 1:41:41.040 want to keep improving. And finally, their infrastructure layer. That's 1:41:41.120 --> 1:41:44.240 the digital infrastructure, things like data centers that are a 1:41:44.360 --> 1:41:47.519 huge grossed area at the moment and Telster looks who 1:41:47.520 --> 1:41:50.160 have completely missed out on that, which has allowed other 1:41:50.240 --> 1:41:53.080 companies to come in and dominate. Telster are hoping to 1:41:53.200 --> 1:41:56.439 increase their returns on invested capital up to ten percent. 1:41:56.720 --> 1:41:59.120 They are currently sitting at eight percent, and we know 1:41:59.240 --> 1:42:02.160 that last week announced that their prices are going up 1:42:02.520 --> 1:42:05.719 for their mobile and broadband customers, and tilts for shares 1:42:05.760 --> 1:42:08.000 today are ahead by three cents. They're now at four 1:42:08.040 --> 1:42:11.719 dollars seventy six. Also going up is the price of copper. 1:42:12.120 --> 1:42:14.559 That's because one of the biggest copper mines in the world, 1:42:14.960 --> 1:42:19.120 in the Democratic Republic of Congo, has temporary closed due 1:42:19.160 --> 1:42:21.880 to earthquake activity and it may go on for a 1:42:21.960 --> 1:42:25.840 few weeks. A company called Ivanhoe, who owned forty percent 1:42:25.920 --> 1:42:28.519 of the Kamua Cocla mine and who are listed in 1:42:28.600 --> 1:42:31.760 Canadas or their shares full by sixteen percent last night. 1:42:32.320 --> 1:42:35.680 But local copper companies are improving today's shares In Sanfire, 1:42:36.160 --> 1:42:38.240 I've seen their shares rally four and a half percent, 1:42:38.400 --> 1:42:41.639 up to eleven dollars fifty three. And Insurance Australia Group 1:42:41.760 --> 1:42:44.240 have said that they have so far received two thy 1:42:44.400 --> 1:42:47.760 five hundred insurance claims relating to the recent flooding in 1:42:47.880 --> 1:42:50.479 New South Wales, but that news hasn't hurt their share price, 1:42:50.520 --> 1:42:53.080 which is up by three cents at eight dollars sixty nine. 1:42:53.479 --> 1:42:56.040 And last night the US markets were closed for their 1:42:56.160 --> 1:42:59.400 Memorial Day holiday, but the European markets were still open 1:43:00.120 --> 1:43:03.320 were stronger after Donald Trump back down from a threat 1:43:03.400 --> 1:43:06.160 to impose a fifty percent tariff on goods from the 1:43:06.240 --> 1:43:08.680 EU starting on the first of June. They now have 1:43:08.800 --> 1:43:11.320 until the ninth of July to come to some sort 1:43:11.320 --> 1:43:14.280 of trade deal. And nowshare market today is stronger as well. 1:43:14.360 --> 1:43:16.200 Your Lord did the head by twenty six points. We're 1:43:16.200 --> 1:43:18.200 at eighty six hundred and fifteen summon. 1:43:18.840 --> 1:43:20.680 Thank you very much. Owe, have a good afternoon. We'll 1:43:20.720 --> 1:43:24.080 chat again tomorrow. Cheers Bowie, Thank you, Ow and Clear 1:43:24.160 --> 1:43:27.680 from Shaw and Partners. You're listening to Perth today, so 1:43:27.720 --> 1:43:30.200 I'm Obama. We're here until one o'clock after midday today. 1:43:30.520 --> 1:43:32.439 Those television series that you didn't see all the way 1:43:32.479 --> 1:43:34.920 through will have a chat about that. And Craig Bloxam, 1:43:34.960 --> 1:43:39.559 the lead singer and songwriter guitarists from Spy Versus Spy, 1:43:39.680 --> 1:43:46.840 will join me as well. Thank you for listening. Cam 1:43:46.920 --> 1:43:49.040 Lay joins me now. He's the general manager of the 1:43:49.080 --> 1:43:51.400 Summit Homes Group. Thanks for coming into the studio camp, 1:43:52.520 --> 1:43:54.639 Thanks for having me again. Sign it. Yeah, no worries. 1:43:54.920 --> 1:43:56.559 Tim Ridden should be with us in just a moment. 1:43:56.640 --> 1:44:00.759 From the Housing Industry Association of Australia. He's the chief economists. 1:44:00.800 --> 1:44:03.400 Wanted to talk about the housing market and the and 1:44:03.640 --> 1:44:06.680 how we're going in Perth and in and in Western Australia. 1:44:07.200 --> 1:44:11.479 It's one of those sectors industry sectors that does have 1:44:12.280 --> 1:44:15.080 a number of leavers that government can pull to try 1:44:15.120 --> 1:44:18.040 and get more new homes into into the market, but 1:44:18.120 --> 1:44:22.160 it's also down ultimately. So I suppose commercial groups like 1:44:22.280 --> 1:44:25.600 yours and you know all that goes with you, the 1:44:25.720 --> 1:44:28.760 building trades, the chippy's, the roof plumbers, all of that. 1:44:28.920 --> 1:44:31.360 It's a you do need a bit of government assistance 1:44:31.400 --> 1:44:33.000 on this, but at the same time you've got to 1:44:33.000 --> 1:44:35.360 go out and sell these joints and build these joints 1:44:35.360 --> 1:44:35.920 as well, don't you. 1:44:36.080 --> 1:44:39.320 Yeah, absolutely, absolutely so. I think you know, from from 1:44:39.360 --> 1:44:42.960 the industry perspective, you know clearly you know we've had 1:44:43.160 --> 1:44:44.920 a challenging few years and I think you know, the 1:44:44.960 --> 1:44:47.600 good thing that we see for the for the for 1:44:47.720 --> 1:44:51.240 this year and the next four months is an opportunity 1:44:51.360 --> 1:44:55.600 to to really focus on on delivering more housing and 1:44:56.240 --> 1:44:57.960 taking control I guess of some of the issues that 1:44:57.960 --> 1:44:59.920 we've had in the past, so such as supply chain, 1:45:01.040 --> 1:45:03.680 labor and so forth. So it's our responsibility as an 1:45:03.680 --> 1:45:06.800 industry to do that and we're all working hard to deliver. 1:45:07.000 --> 1:45:09.160 Tim ridden Jordan's in the studio now from the Housing 1:45:09.200 --> 1:45:13.160 Industry Association. They're the chief economists today. Tim, good morning, 1:45:13.200 --> 1:45:15.000 Thanks for having me. Yeah, no worries, so I'm glad 1:45:15.040 --> 1:45:18.280 you got God here. We're just talking about the leavers 1:45:18.320 --> 1:45:21.080 that federal government and state governments can pull when it 1:45:21.160 --> 1:45:23.639 comes to housing supply and housing stock. 1:45:24.000 --> 1:45:24.200 Yeah. 1:45:24.320 --> 1:45:27.880 Look from a per perspective, as Cameron's saying that there 1:45:27.960 --> 1:45:29.760 is a huge constraint here, which is just that labor 1:45:29.800 --> 1:45:32.200 force constraint. It's very different WA as to what it 1:45:32.280 --> 1:45:33.840 is in the rest of the country and. 1:45:35.640 --> 1:45:36.160 Everywhere else. 1:45:36.240 --> 1:45:38.360 It is about governments removing themselves from the market. And 1:45:38.439 --> 1:45:41.160 here there are two types of problems. Problems time has 1:45:41.240 --> 1:45:43.800 solved and problems time will solve. And what we're going 1:45:43.840 --> 1:45:45.320 to see over the course of the next five years is, 1:45:45.320 --> 1:45:48.639 at no stage is WA going to deliver enough homes 1:45:48.800 --> 1:45:52.240 to meet demand in any year. So that housing shortage, 1:45:52.280 --> 1:45:55.440 that housing constraint, house price growth, that's going to continue, 1:45:56.240 --> 1:45:58.000 and the volume of homes we build each year will 1:45:58.040 --> 1:46:02.280 also continue. So we're building around about sixteen thousand detached 1:46:02.320 --> 1:46:05.559 homes and a couple of thousand apartments, and by twenty 1:46:05.640 --> 1:46:08.000 thirty will be up to about twenty one thousand detached 1:46:08.040 --> 1:46:12.000 homes and about five six thousand apartments per year, which 1:46:12.080 --> 1:46:13.720 is still not enough to meet the demand for that 1:46:13.840 --> 1:46:15.639 growing population, the growing economy. 1:46:16.040 --> 1:46:20.280 Well, if it's possible, Summer to side Cam and to utim, 1:46:20.800 --> 1:46:24.360 is it possible to describe in fifty words or less 1:46:24.400 --> 1:46:28.200 why WA building companies have been going under in such number. 1:46:29.040 --> 1:46:31.960 Look, I think the answer is twenty nineteen, right, that 1:46:32.120 --> 1:46:34.360 was where the damage was done. Things just got too 1:46:34.800 --> 1:46:37.559 too slow, too low down in the cycle in twenty nineteen. 1:46:37.600 --> 1:46:40.040 With hindsight support at that point in the market would 1:46:40.040 --> 1:46:43.719 have kept more builders and more tradees in Western Australia 1:46:43.840 --> 1:46:45.719 and seen less exit to the East Coast. 1:46:45.760 --> 1:46:47.479 And now we just can't bring them back quick enough. 1:46:47.680 --> 1:46:51.120 Cam your thoughts, Yeah, Look, it's not just localized to 1:46:51.120 --> 1:46:55.400 West Australia either, think you know nationally, The fact is 1:46:55.560 --> 1:46:59.960 the BURM post COVID with the home build a stimulus 1:47:00.360 --> 1:47:03.280 just put a lot of pressure on builders and naturally 1:47:03.400 --> 1:47:06.439 we we work in the in the system of fixed 1:47:06.479 --> 1:47:10.280 price contracts. So as Tim said, when when materials started 1:47:10.320 --> 1:47:14.439 to to increase so significantly, plus the labor constraints hess 1:47:14.479 --> 1:47:16.760 the building went went way up and it just put 1:47:16.800 --> 1:47:19.639 a lot of pressure on fixed price contracts. So look, 1:47:19.680 --> 1:47:22.080 it was something that's been very unfortunate and it's it's 1:47:22.080 --> 1:47:26.040 not great for the industry. There's some terrific builders that 1:47:26.320 --> 1:47:30.120 have been affected, and we're all through, but predominantly through 1:47:30.160 --> 1:47:33.960 the other side. I think probably what we what we're 1:47:34.000 --> 1:47:36.040 consciousself for people these days, is just to make sure 1:47:36.080 --> 1:47:37.880 that they you know, they choose that you choose a 1:47:37.920 --> 1:47:40.840 builder with that financial security. But as an industry we've 1:47:40.840 --> 1:47:41.840 got a bit of work to do to give that 1:47:41.920 --> 1:47:43.240 confidence back this year. 1:47:43.560 --> 1:47:45.760 And again this is an anecdote, and my listeners are 1:47:45.760 --> 1:47:48.640 pretty savvy on whenever we talk about this, and they 1:47:48.840 --> 1:47:50.680 there's a couple of things that they often pick up on. 1:47:50.840 --> 1:47:56.120 It's do we have enough tradees, building trades, people in 1:47:56.320 --> 1:48:00.800 men and women in Perth to improve the delivery of 1:48:00.920 --> 1:48:03.400 new housing stock? Do you physically have enough people? And 1:48:03.479 --> 1:48:06.320 they also ask ask about apprentices and do we have 1:48:06.439 --> 1:48:09.800 enough apprentices in the system? Can we well their anecdotal 1:48:09.920 --> 1:48:12.400 vibe an ancdotal vibe I get from our listeners, can 1:48:12.439 --> 1:48:14.559 you address those Look, the. 1:48:15.200 --> 1:48:16.960 Labor is the biggest issue, and there's a couple of 1:48:17.000 --> 1:48:22.320 things going on and look some of it obviously, trade 1:48:22.360 --> 1:48:24.880 rates are at a very healthy rate. So what that 1:48:25.000 --> 1:48:28.639 means is that some trades work at a certain pace 1:48:28.720 --> 1:48:33.479 and productivity level. So we're certainly dealing with that. Apprentices Yes, 1:48:33.520 --> 1:48:35.679 we need more apprentices look and there's no silver bullet 1:48:35.720 --> 1:48:38.760 to any of this, by the way, So you know, 1:48:38.920 --> 1:48:41.400 obviously we're a mining state, so we have labor sucked 1:48:41.439 --> 1:48:44.160 up there, but again that's quite specialized. Some of the 1:48:44.240 --> 1:48:48.519 infrastructures is starting to come, you know, to completion, so 1:48:48.600 --> 1:48:50.400 that that may free up some from labor for the 1:48:50.439 --> 1:48:54.600 res residential builders. But I think, you know, to to 1:48:54.720 --> 1:48:56.880 the point of what the state com is doing things 1:48:56.920 --> 1:48:59.960 that we've we've needed to look at, is is recruiting 1:49:00.080 --> 1:49:04.160 some over skilled overseas skilled workers, which we're quite involved 1:49:04.200 --> 1:49:06.800 with because you know, again it's not not replacing any job. 1:49:06.880 --> 1:49:09.760 This is incremental labor to make sure that we can 1:49:09.800 --> 1:49:12.240 deliver some of the some of the more important projects. 1:49:12.280 --> 1:49:14.760 So you know, looking after our workforce, looking after our 1:49:14.800 --> 1:49:19.040 existing subcontractor base is really really critical. Encouraging the apprenticeship 1:49:19.080 --> 1:49:21.000 side of things, and that's where government can obviously help 1:49:21.000 --> 1:49:23.160 out with those side of things. I think we've got 1:49:23.200 --> 1:49:24.680 to be really open to the fact that we've got 1:49:24.720 --> 1:49:26.720 to be a bit more diverse in terms of who 1:49:26.720 --> 1:49:28.880 we're attracting from that labor point. 1:49:29.000 --> 1:49:31.680 Yeah, and I guess the other other see that's the 1:49:31.760 --> 1:49:33.800 voice of cam Laid. You can hear listeners. He's the group, 1:49:34.040 --> 1:49:36.240 the general manager of some at Homes group and Tim 1:49:36.320 --> 1:49:39.320 Riddan's with us as well. And the next question in 1:49:39.439 --> 1:49:41.439 all of that, if people come in from into state 1:49:41.479 --> 1:49:45.160 and overseas, where where are they going to live? Well, 1:49:46.000 --> 1:49:46.920 they always ask. 1:49:46.800 --> 1:49:50.400 Me that that look that people figure things out simon. 1:49:50.520 --> 1:49:53.200 So there's look, there is enough. Yeah, vacancy rates are low, 1:49:53.360 --> 1:49:55.360 but what we're seeing is that people are actually coming 1:49:55.400 --> 1:49:59.840 up with their own solutions to to find to f 1:50:00.160 --> 1:50:02.160 a place to live in the meantime. I mean, you 1:50:02.240 --> 1:50:03.360 can look at it that it's a bit of a 1:50:03.400 --> 1:50:05.680 catch twenty two. But you know what we're seeing is 1:50:05.880 --> 1:50:07.760 it's not holding anything back at the moment. We're just 1:50:08.479 --> 1:50:11.000 we're just really focused on delivering as much as we can, 1:50:11.479 --> 1:50:14.000 I guess as an industry, and also trying to look 1:50:14.040 --> 1:50:18.479 at different different forms of dwellings. So you know, things 1:50:18.600 --> 1:50:21.360 like the planning reform with the ancillary dwellings for example, 1:50:22.400 --> 1:50:24.519 from a granny flat market point of view, you know, 1:50:24.640 --> 1:50:27.000 the government's try to remove red tape down in terms 1:50:27.040 --> 1:50:31.639 of planning to get those ancillary dwellings going, the residential 1:50:31.720 --> 1:50:35.519 design co changes and trying to have improved planning. Reform 1:50:35.680 --> 1:50:38.160 is going to clearly try and help our medium density 1:50:39.000 --> 1:50:42.879 industry because that's really critical. You know, the high identity apartments, 1:50:43.160 --> 1:50:47.960 as Tim we'll talk to, is hard to stack because 1:50:47.960 --> 1:50:50.920 of the cost of labor and materials here. So unless 1:50:50.920 --> 1:50:53.200 they've got a river or an ocean view, they're harder. 1:50:53.320 --> 1:50:56.840 So hence medium density has to be a focus. But 1:50:56.960 --> 1:51:00.840 at the same time, land developers are also working feverishly 1:51:00.960 --> 1:51:03.759 to produce more land. I know all the civil contractors 1:51:03.800 --> 1:51:07.000 are working flat out to make sure that we can 1:51:07.120 --> 1:51:08.880 keep that supply going of land. 1:51:09.120 --> 1:51:13.439 Yeah, thanks Cam, Tim Reardan from the HIAS perspective. When 1:51:13.479 --> 1:51:15.240 you came into six PR today, Tim, you would have 1:51:15.320 --> 1:51:17.439 seen a huge building development down on the corner which 1:51:17.479 --> 1:51:20.720 is the old State Chemistry laboratories. You would have seen 1:51:20.760 --> 1:51:24.720 the new university being built over in Yagan Square. These 1:51:24.800 --> 1:51:27.720 big projects they suck up government projects. They suck up 1:51:27.800 --> 1:51:28.519 labor too, don't they. 1:51:28.680 --> 1:51:30.720 Yeah, there's no doubt we're competing viercely with all of 1:51:30.760 --> 1:51:35.400 the other industri's mining industry, construction, engineering and trying to 1:51:35.920 --> 1:51:39.080 attract kids to our industry as apprentices. AD's very true 1:51:39.160 --> 1:51:41.000 and it is a little bit of a double edged 1:51:41.000 --> 1:51:42.920 sword for us. We need to build infrastructure in order 1:51:42.960 --> 1:51:45.240 to build new homes and that chicken and battle we're 1:51:45.280 --> 1:51:47.240 having with labor. But all of it comes back to 1:51:47.439 --> 1:51:50.160 four percent unemployment in Australia. So everyone's got a job. 1:51:50.240 --> 1:51:53.360 That's a positive. And for a West Australian perspective, what 1:51:53.400 --> 1:51:56.040 we're looking at now is economic growth that's far more 1:51:56.160 --> 1:51:58.720 stable than what Western Australia has had for in its 1:51:58.800 --> 1:52:01.320 roller coaster ride of the twenty years of mining booms 1:52:01.360 --> 1:52:04.160 and mining bus and when we look ahead, I don't 1:52:04.280 --> 1:52:07.200 see that we have that cycle, that boom bus cycle 1:52:07.240 --> 1:52:10.000 in the five years ahead. So look at more stable 1:52:10.040 --> 1:52:13.280 economic growth. Cam's just gone to apartments there, and that's right. 1:52:13.520 --> 1:52:16.599 Western Australia needs to significantly increase its volume of apartments. 1:52:16.640 --> 1:52:19.280 But there is a problem there that an established apartment 1:52:19.320 --> 1:52:22.920 still hasn't risen in price as rapidly as detached houses. Now, 1:52:23.760 --> 1:52:26.000 house prices in Perth have caught up with Brisbane. You're 1:52:26.040 --> 1:52:28.120 just ten percent cheaper now than Brisbane, and we knew 1:52:28.160 --> 1:52:30.280 that was going to happen. Twenty percent annual growth there 1:52:30.360 --> 1:52:32.240 now back down to ten percent annual growth, and we're 1:52:32.280 --> 1:52:33.599 going to see now in the rest of the country 1:52:33.880 --> 1:52:36.640 dropped the cash right, house prices are going to accelerate up. 1:52:37.240 --> 1:52:38.320 As they accelerate up. 1:52:38.680 --> 1:52:41.559 We will see more new detached home building and eventually 1:52:41.760 --> 1:52:44.760 apartments will start to stack up again. And we do 1:52:44.920 --> 1:52:48.160 have a capacity constraint. There very few apartment builders left 1:52:48.240 --> 1:52:50.599 in Western Australia and as you talk to the East 1:52:50.640 --> 1:52:52.519 Coast apartment builders, yes they don't want to come to 1:52:52.600 --> 1:52:54.920 Perth because there's no way to house their labor when they. 1:52:54.920 --> 1:52:55.479 Do come here. 1:52:55.880 --> 1:52:59.680 But we're now competing more homes in wa than we 1:52:59.800 --> 1:53:03.160 have for a decade and with time that will ease. 1:53:03.360 --> 1:53:05.559 We will see that supply come up and eventually house 1:53:05.640 --> 1:53:08.080 price growth in Perth will start to stabilize, I mean, 1:53:08.479 --> 1:53:10.240 not the double digit growth that you've had for the 1:53:10.280 --> 1:53:11.040 past few years. 1:53:11.120 --> 1:53:12.880 Fourteen and a half minutes to midday, the phone lines 1:53:12.880 --> 1:53:14.360 are open. If you'd like to speak to Tim Riridan 1:53:14.400 --> 1:53:17.200 from the HIA or to Camlaid from Summer, please do. 1:53:17.360 --> 1:53:18.760 We'll take a break. We'll come back in just a 1:53:18.800 --> 1:53:20.840 moment one double three A to eudy two. If you 1:53:20.880 --> 1:53:24.160 have any questions, I will ask you next about existing 1:53:24.200 --> 1:53:26.679 stock that's on the market, because there's an under supply 1:53:27.080 --> 1:53:29.360 of that as well, and other any leavers you think 1:53:29.400 --> 1:53:31.519 the government can tweak to to free up some of 1:53:31.520 --> 1:53:34.000 the existing stock. That might be you might have some 1:53:34.080 --> 1:53:37.200 empty Nesta mums and dads and grandparents living in them. 1:53:37.240 --> 1:53:40.479 Stay listening. Tim Ridden's with us. He's from the Housing 1:53:40.520 --> 1:53:43.920 Industry Association. He's a chief economist and cam Laid from 1:53:43.960 --> 1:53:46.000 the Summer Homes Groovers in the studio. If you want 1:53:46.040 --> 1:53:48.320 to ring in, you can Phil's phone in gents kid 1:53:48.360 --> 1:53:49.360 a Phil far away. 1:53:50.320 --> 1:53:52.519 Yeah hello, yeah go mate. 1:53:53.360 --> 1:53:56.240 To do with the strata, A lot of people don't 1:53:56.400 --> 1:53:59.680 like buying strata is because in apartments, because they have 1:53:59.760 --> 1:54:02.920 to pay austrata see one. And the maintenance of the 1:54:03.000 --> 1:54:08.040 strata companies have appalling record and the fees just increase 1:54:08.120 --> 1:54:10.320 and increase. And then two is a lot of these 1:54:10.360 --> 1:54:13.080 apartments have to be bought off the plan so they 1:54:13.160 --> 1:54:15.560 have a good architect that does the original drawings and 1:54:15.640 --> 1:54:18.280 then the build of fires the architect and gets the 1:54:18.320 --> 1:54:21.719 crappy architect in to finish the project and the project 1:54:22.240 --> 1:54:25.000 is very poor and then the fitties and fixtures are 1:54:25.120 --> 1:54:28.320 changed along the way instead of getting what you've been 1:54:29.439 --> 1:54:32.880 allocated and good fittings. And they come in and they 1:54:32.920 --> 1:54:35.680 get another builder and they bring in all of these 1:54:35.840 --> 1:54:39.000 cheap dixtures and fittings and that's the reason why people 1:54:39.120 --> 1:54:42.400 don't like buying apartments in Perth. And this happens all 1:54:42.480 --> 1:54:45.960 over the Australia and then the apartments start to fall apart. 1:54:46.200 --> 1:54:50.160 Phil, I'll get candor respond to that shouldn't happen. 1:54:50.600 --> 1:54:52.600 But no, it shouldn't happen. And thanks for throwing to 1:54:52.680 --> 1:54:53.160 me on that one. 1:54:54.040 --> 1:54:57.400 I think you'll find that on that front of plans 1:54:57.520 --> 1:55:00.960 changing after sale, you'll find the atual who have made 1:55:01.040 --> 1:55:03.320 some legilative changes over the course of the past few 1:55:03.400 --> 1:55:06.280 years that will significant constrain that. But yes, on those 1:55:06.280 --> 1:55:08.960 strata fees that there is a component, the cost component there. 1:55:09.480 --> 1:55:12.000 It is going to take some time in Perth before 1:55:12.040 --> 1:55:15.000 we see that off the plan apartment phase come through. 1:55:15.400 --> 1:55:17.560 There is another component to that which is the same 1:55:17.720 --> 1:55:19.200 in these coast as well, which is a very low 1:55:19.280 --> 1:55:23.280 level of apartment building because we have forced foreign capital 1:55:23.360 --> 1:55:24.040 out of the market. 1:55:24.080 --> 1:55:25.320 We've taxed foreign capital. 1:55:25.360 --> 1:55:28.280 We allow individuals people to come in, but they're not 1:55:28.320 --> 1:55:30.000 allowed to bring the money with them in order to 1:55:30.040 --> 1:55:33.120 build new homes. Now, at some stage, I expect that 1:55:33.200 --> 1:55:36.160 state governments will realize that those policies are allowing people 1:55:36.200 --> 1:55:39.240 in but not the money to build new homes is counterproductive. 1:55:39.280 --> 1:55:41.880 They get less stamp duty revenue, less economic activity. Less 1:55:41.920 --> 1:55:45.200 homes built make the housing affordability crisis worse, and we 1:55:45.240 --> 1:55:48.040 will see a reversal of those trends just. 1:55:48.120 --> 1:55:52.600 On just on existing versus new housing. Stock. Cam and 1:55:52.680 --> 1:55:55.440 Tim my mate went looked at a place on the 1:55:55.520 --> 1:55:59.720 weekend as a part of a strata complex. Ninety odd 1:55:59.760 --> 1:56:02.040 people went through. Probably sixty people put in an offer 1:56:02.040 --> 1:56:04.120 and it went for one hundred more than it was 1:56:04.120 --> 1:56:07.040 advertised for. And I think you and I might have 1:56:07.080 --> 1:56:10.640 a different opinion on this, Tim. I've always thought when 1:56:10.680 --> 1:56:13.840 people are trying to write size, if people are you know, 1:56:13.920 --> 1:56:16.200 they're empty nesters, kids have moved out, they want to 1:56:16.200 --> 1:56:17.920 buy an apartment, they still want to pay stamp duty. 1:56:18.120 --> 1:56:21.440 I think if that's tweaked, that might free up more stock. 1:56:21.680 --> 1:56:24.280 But you're big on this notion of people buying apartments, 1:56:24.320 --> 1:56:25.800 aren't you and the apartments is the answer. 1:56:26.400 --> 1:56:28.960 No, there's certainly there's a time and place for all 1:56:29.000 --> 1:56:31.840 of that. And the balance here in Western Australia isn't right. 1:56:31.880 --> 1:56:35.240 We are building ninety percent detached and by the end 1:56:35.240 --> 1:56:36.840 of the decade we expect that that's much more of 1:56:36.880 --> 1:56:39.240 a sixty thirty split. But yes, stam duty is a 1:56:39.320 --> 1:56:42.240 core problem because it is a very inefficient tax. A 1:56:42.320 --> 1:56:44.920 taxes people when they're relocating because they're retiring, or they 1:56:45.000 --> 1:56:47.000 need to move for their job, or for their health reasons, 1:56:47.080 --> 1:56:50.000 or for education or employment. It leads to all of 1:56:50.080 --> 1:56:53.240 the poor land use, people staying home longer than what 1:56:53.280 --> 1:56:56.320 they should say Yes, no, stamp duty is the core 1:56:56.400 --> 1:56:59.640 of our problems. Now, we're not going to solve the 1:56:59.680 --> 1:57:02.640 stamp problem in the course of the next few years, 1:57:02.680 --> 1:57:04.560 and it is going to lose us with a situation 1:57:04.680 --> 1:57:07.080 where we still have the same number of houses and 1:57:07.200 --> 1:57:10.200 the population nationally twenty seven million people, ten million homes. 1:57:10.600 --> 1:57:13.560 That's the underlying problem. That is the reason that housing 1:57:13.840 --> 1:57:16.360 affordability is worsing as well. We've got home ownership rates 1:57:16.440 --> 1:57:17.040 in decline. 1:57:17.640 --> 1:57:20.120 Yeah, I'll come back to you, Cams, I reckon we'll 1:57:20.160 --> 1:57:22.400 go back to where we started, which is labor. That's 1:57:22.440 --> 1:57:24.320 a big one for summer. Isn't it getting enough labor 1:57:24.360 --> 1:57:25.840 or get to that can make that just a sec 1:57:26.200 --> 1:57:26.640 get a in. 1:57:29.520 --> 1:57:33.280 Far away just kind of question. Is there a shortage 1:57:33.320 --> 1:57:39.160 of basic raw materials in Perth? No, it is not. 1:57:39.280 --> 1:57:42.520 The supply chain has definitely improved. There's certainly some challenges 1:57:42.560 --> 1:57:46.080 through the home building grant, and obviously you know we're 1:57:46.160 --> 1:57:50.560 very remote, so we do rely on on importation from 1:57:50.720 --> 1:57:54.320 overseas for some materials, but ultimately all of the stuff 1:57:54.400 --> 1:57:57.080 is all made here, So the material supply chain is 1:57:57.120 --> 1:57:58.920 definitely stabilized and normalized here. 1:57:59.080 --> 1:58:01.240 Yeah, all right, both of you are quite optimistic that 1:58:01.280 --> 1:58:03.560 we might be through some of the things we have 1:58:03.720 --> 1:58:08.760 been seeing insolvencies and issues, and both of you are 1:58:08.800 --> 1:58:11.440 quite optimistic, last half full that he's going to get 1:58:11.480 --> 1:58:16.600 better from here. Michelle bullet as a kindly, the last 1:58:16.680 --> 1:58:19.160 couple of times, last couple of means means I have 1:58:19.200 --> 1:58:20.240 to pay less of my mortgage. 1:58:20.280 --> 1:58:23.560 Tim what's that going to do to the sector. Well, 1:58:23.600 --> 1:58:25.320 you've probably got a couple more of those to come to. 1:58:25.840 --> 1:58:28.880 The inflation went up because of global crisis has come 1:58:28.960 --> 1:58:30.880 back down along with the rest of the world as well. 1:58:30.960 --> 1:58:33.240 And so from everything we can see that CPI is 1:58:33.280 --> 1:58:36.760 coming back within target bounding gain to continue. So one two, 1:58:37.080 --> 1:58:39.960 maybe more rate cuts this year, perhaps a little bit 1:58:40.000 --> 1:58:42.680 more next year. Now, long term, we're not going to 1:58:42.760 --> 1:58:45.440 return to zero point seventy five percent cash rate just 1:58:45.480 --> 1:58:48.200 before the pandemic. It's three point sixty five at the moment. 1:58:48.240 --> 1:58:51.280 We're not getting back to that pre pandemic level because population, 1:58:51.360 --> 1:58:55.400 government expenditure is really high. But nonetheless cut to the 1:58:55.480 --> 1:58:58.920 cash rate. We'll see established prices rise as people can 1:58:59.080 --> 1:59:01.880 borrow more. We do have a shortage of housing stock 1:59:02.160 --> 1:59:04.960 and increasingly that will lend. See people building new home 1:59:05.000 --> 1:59:07.800 building and apartment building will increasingly stack up financially. 1:59:07.880 --> 1:59:10.640 And you also seem you also mentioned renovations that's up 1:59:10.720 --> 1:59:11.280 forty percent. 1:59:11.320 --> 1:59:13.680 Did you say, yeah, renovation market in Perth is the 1:59:13.800 --> 1:59:16.240 strongest in the country. You're seeing renovation activity pick up 1:59:16.280 --> 1:59:18.280 as house prices grow, and here it's even more so. 1:59:19.120 --> 1:59:20.760 The reason for that is that when we hit this 1:59:20.880 --> 1:59:23.360 particular point in the cycle where land prices are rising, 1:59:23.440 --> 1:59:26.040 people make the decision rather than to relocate, they make 1:59:26.080 --> 1:59:28.680 the decision to renovate. And there is another dynamic at 1:59:28.680 --> 1:59:31.280 plan Western Australia, which is the labour force has been 1:59:31.400 --> 1:59:33.960 very much skewed towards new home building and very little 1:59:34.000 --> 1:59:34.800 towards the renovation. 1:59:35.760 --> 1:59:36.360 Other markets. 1:59:36.400 --> 1:59:38.320 Long term we typically see about a third of the 1:59:38.400 --> 1:59:40.560 labour sitting on the renovation side and two thirds on 1:59:40.680 --> 1:59:43.400 new home building, and WA is just still Perth is 1:59:43.480 --> 1:59:47.000 just recalibrating there to get the right structure, so enormous 1:59:47.000 --> 1:59:50.480 six manager high end quality renovations is a very good 1:59:50.520 --> 1:59:51.240 side of the market for. 1:59:51.240 --> 1:59:52.880 A builder to be involved in at the moment. Yep, 1:59:53.680 --> 1:59:56.240 Cam Tim's here to talk at the dime by Summit 1:59:56.320 --> 1:59:58.320 Developments dinner, so you'll get to your a bit more 1:59:58.360 --> 2:00:05.840 of him this evening. I guess a cold shardy thank 2:00:05.880 --> 2:00:07.680 you both for coming in. I really appreciate it, and 2:00:07.760 --> 2:00:11.320 you both of you are optimistic that we've probably seen 2:00:11.360 --> 2:00:15.720 the worst of what we have seen. You came your bullish. 2:00:15.600 --> 2:00:18.240 Yeah, Simon, I think it's a it's a really good point. 2:00:18.280 --> 2:00:21.120 I think. I guess the message to to the listeners 2:00:21.280 --> 2:00:24.520 is that if you're thinking about doing something, do it now. 2:00:25.600 --> 2:00:28.120 There's a bit of a misconception that the prices will 2:00:28.160 --> 2:00:32.640 go down. Prices prices won't go down and certainly the 2:00:32.720 --> 2:00:35.600 cost of building won't go down. So I guess we 2:00:35.840 --> 2:00:38.640 feel that things have stabilized. There's a bit more normalization 2:00:38.760 --> 2:00:41.000 coming into the market. New land prices are starting to 2:00:41.080 --> 2:00:42.520 sort of stabilize. 2:00:41.920 --> 2:00:42.240 For a bit. 2:00:42.320 --> 2:00:44.760 So I think if you're if you're wondering what to do, 2:00:45.080 --> 2:00:48.680 my message would be to do it now and start 2:00:48.720 --> 2:00:49.520 making those plans. 2:00:49.760 --> 2:00:52.480 Yeah, all right, thank you both for coming in. It's 2:00:52.480 --> 2:00:54.760 a good, good chat to have at this time. I 2:00:54.800 --> 2:00:58.360 feel you've you've filled me with optimism and buoyancy for 2:00:58.440 --> 2:01:01.600 the future. Thanks gents, thank you, thanks for coming in. 2:01:01.680 --> 2:01:05.320 That so Tim Riddan from the Housing Industry Association of Australia. 2:01:05.480 --> 2:01:08.400 He's the chief economist in cam Lane, cam Laide is 2:01:08.520 --> 2:01:11.160 the GM of the Summitt Homes Group. Hope you enjoyed that. 2:01:11.200 --> 2:01:14.680 Three and a half minutes to midday John's and Applecross today. John, 2:01:15.040 --> 2:01:17.520 thanks for setting in your SMS mate or even apartment 2:01:17.560 --> 2:01:19.480 Applecross and couldn't be happy. I would never move back 2:01:19.480 --> 2:01:21.880 to a house to the strata argument. If the people 2:01:21.920 --> 2:01:24.800 who own houses, especially with lawn's pools of church, I'm 2:01:24.840 --> 2:01:27.800 shore fine spend more at Bunnings and mates, you would 2:01:27.800 --> 2:01:30.040 just spend on strata especially most apartments have a gym. 2:01:30.400 --> 2:01:34.680 Thanks John. I wonder if you know those beautiful big 2:01:34.720 --> 2:01:37.760 apartments on Canning Highway that everyone was winging about. Now 2:01:38.120 --> 2:01:43.000 people seem to love. Yeah, thanks John, Thanks for your 2:01:43.000 --> 2:01:46.000 thoughts midday. We'll be back after news. 2:01:54.840 --> 2:01:59.040 Until one. This is Perth Today with Simon Beaumont on 2:01:59.280 --> 2:02:04.160 Perth six. Yeah, thanks for listening in. 2:02:04.240 --> 2:02:05.880 If you'd like to call the show you hand wonderuble 2:02:05.920 --> 2:02:10.280 three atty two. We have put the application form into 2:02:10.440 --> 2:02:13.080 Oliver Peterson and he's given as sup permission to speak 2:02:13.120 --> 2:02:15.120 to Andrew Williams in just a moment. You'll hear Willow 2:02:15.800 --> 2:02:18.920 with JB on the weekends talking movies, and you hear 2:02:19.320 --> 2:02:24.000 Andrew Williams on Fridays talking to all of about TV shows. 2:02:25.200 --> 2:02:29.160 Handmaid's Tale, Who's run for six series, run for six 2:02:29.240 --> 2:02:31.680 seasons and it's just finish. It's finishing up today. So 2:02:31.840 --> 2:02:36.040 the final episode of the final series, the finale is today. 2:02:36.120 --> 2:02:38.240 And I'm asking you going to ask you that question, 2:02:38.320 --> 2:02:41.000 and Andrew, that question, what a TV series that you 2:02:41.080 --> 2:02:43.840 haven't made it all the way through where you've got 2:02:43.880 --> 2:02:46.480 to series three or four and you've got na that's yeah, Nah, 2:02:46.600 --> 2:02:49.440 that's enough. That'll do me. I've got a couple. One 2:02:49.480 --> 2:02:53.240 double three A two is the phone number. Craig Bloxham 2:02:53.280 --> 2:02:56.800 will join us in just a moment. Craig is the singer, songwriter, 2:02:57.040 --> 2:02:59.800 lead guitarist, lead vocalist of the Spy is a Spy 2:03:00.200 --> 2:03:03.440 as Spies got some new music out and they're coming 2:03:03.480 --> 2:03:06.440 to Perth. One double three A D two is the 2:03:06.640 --> 2:03:09.720 phone number. Quite a few of the television shows, the 2:03:09.800 --> 2:03:13.520 new shows are predicting that Murray what the environments, that 2:03:13.560 --> 2:03:16.800 he's going to approve the extension to the Woodside contract. 2:03:17.720 --> 2:03:19.640 I just wonder if there's some middle ground here, if 2:03:19.680 --> 2:03:22.720 he will approve the extension and put some caveats on it, 2:03:22.840 --> 2:03:27.080 maybe reduce the term so instead of fifty sixty seventy years, 2:03:27.120 --> 2:03:31.000 it might be twenty or twenty five, and Scott Reef 2:03:31.000 --> 2:03:33.280 will be excised from the deal. I think which Woodside 2:03:33.280 --> 2:03:36.160 already flagged that. One double three A D two is 2:03:36.200 --> 2:03:40.320 the phone number Liam's phoned in? Can I Liam, hello, mate? 2:03:41.120 --> 2:03:43.320 I love you show you just wanted to say, what 2:03:43.440 --> 2:03:48.080 a stupid idea of this? Picking up boxing is teaching violence, 2:03:48.360 --> 2:03:54.000 encouraging violence, like, why not put towards safety of women, mate, 2:03:54.480 --> 2:03:59.280 They overturned this to allow vote for it. They just 2:03:59.360 --> 2:04:01.880 get some shell kids in order like that, or some 2:04:02.120 --> 2:04:05.800 protection for women. Just wrong area of. 2:04:08.600 --> 2:04:10.160 All right, Liam, thank you mate, thanks for call. 2:04:10.240 --> 2:04:10.280 So. 2:04:10.360 --> 2:04:15.080 Liam doesn't like what's now being called b b KFC 2:04:15.400 --> 2:04:21.040 BKFC as in UFC Beart Knuckle Fighting Championship. My colleague 2:04:21.080 --> 2:04:23.360 Jamie Burnett spotted this a couple of weekends ago that 2:04:23.480 --> 2:04:27.120 this the legislation has been changed to allow that to 2:04:27.240 --> 2:04:30.720 be recognized as a combat sports. The Combat Sports Commission, 2:04:31.040 --> 2:04:34.480 which are based at the department formerly known as DSR 2:04:34.600 --> 2:04:38.480 but now d l G s i C, they will 2:04:38.480 --> 2:04:40.800 make a decision as to whether this event will go forward. 2:04:40.920 --> 2:04:45.080 It sounds like it will. They've changed the couple of 2:04:45.120 --> 2:04:47.840 criteria so the competitors need to be of a certain 2:04:47.880 --> 2:04:53.160 experience and they've up the requirement around doctors being present 2:04:53.280 --> 2:04:57.600 at the bf B KFC when it comes here. Thanks Liam, 2:04:57.640 --> 2:04:59.600 thanks for thoughts mate. And that is echoing a lot 2:04:59.640 --> 2:05:02.680 of cours bonds that we're getting into the show today. 2:05:02.720 --> 2:05:06.440 Get a cal he says, Simon's ironic there yesterday you're 2:05:06.480 --> 2:05:08.080 up to about nangs and there was a question in 2:05:08.160 --> 2:05:10.320 the Daily Quiz in the paper today about the common 2:05:10.400 --> 2:05:13.080 name for Nio sox side funny, love the show and 2:05:13.160 --> 2:05:15.200 the wide range of views on the different issues. All 2:05:15.240 --> 2:05:19.800 the best, thanks Cal good on you Nick Say's Prison 2:05:19.880 --> 2:05:22.560 Bake Break, Prison Break season one and two. Good. Then 2:05:22.600 --> 2:05:25.520 got a little silly They keep any the slammer up. 2:05:25.640 --> 2:05:29.120 A bit of a red flag, isn't it. Love the show? Yeah, 2:05:29.160 --> 2:05:31.160 thanks Ni TV shows that you haven't made it all 2:05:31.200 --> 2:05:34.680 the way through all the series gooda Mark good Simon. 2:05:35.120 --> 2:05:35.320 Yeah. 2:05:35.360 --> 2:05:41.280 The black List I think maybe to about season six 2:05:41.440 --> 2:05:45.240 or seven from memory, it ended up probably about ten seasons. 2:05:45.280 --> 2:05:48.520 But it just got a bit silly. Too many plot twists, 2:05:49.920 --> 2:05:53.480 the key cast members leaving. They just got a bit silly. 2:05:53.640 --> 2:05:57.560 It was James Spader in all the series, Mark, yeah, 2:05:57.560 --> 2:06:00.640 I think he was Yeah, okay, all right, Blacklist so 2:06:00.720 --> 2:06:06.600 you got to yeah, all right mate, Thank you, cheers, 2:06:07.080 --> 2:06:12.040 thanks for your thoughts. One, double three two. We spoke 2:06:12.120 --> 2:06:15.120 to Brett Christian on Friday. Brett today, if you're listening. 2:06:15.200 --> 2:06:21.120 Brett is the editor of The Post newspaper group started 2:06:21.400 --> 2:06:24.160 with the Subi Post. Of course, Brett told us last 2:06:24.200 --> 2:06:28.880 Friday that he had imported a printing press from Canada 2:06:29.480 --> 2:06:31.920 and he was being built and is being built and 2:06:32.000 --> 2:06:35.720 finished out in the eastern suburbs of Perth. Well, we 2:06:35.800 --> 2:06:40.120 asked Brett if this might lead to more diversity in 2:06:40.240 --> 2:06:43.040 the newspapers that are printed in Perth. Cross are going 2:06:43.120 --> 2:06:45.960 up at the big printing press in Aussie Park owned 2:06:46.000 --> 2:06:50.080 by seven West Media. That you seem to have squeeze 2:06:50.080 --> 2:06:53.160 the Australian Financial Review out of production here in Perth. 2:06:53.200 --> 2:06:56.760 You can still get it online of course, but we 2:06:56.840 --> 2:06:59.600 did speak to Brett this morning just for a text 2:06:59.640 --> 2:07:01.520 message and the door may be open for the Finn 2:07:01.560 --> 2:07:06.040 Review to restart distribution of its print edition in Perth 2:07:06.080 --> 2:07:08.360 and in w A. They might use the new printing 2:07:08.400 --> 2:07:12.160 press that Brett has purchased and built out in the 2:07:12.200 --> 2:07:15.400 Eastern suburbs. This is Brett Christian on newspaper diversity last Friday. 2:07:15.920 --> 2:07:18.800 It's a high speed prestol will print out paper in 2:07:19.160 --> 2:07:22.760 half a day, so that you know there is spare 2:07:23.240 --> 2:07:31.880 spare capacity there. It's we we find that people really 2:07:32.320 --> 2:07:36.120 like their their their local news and and they like it, 2:07:36.680 --> 2:07:39.240 I think more importantly they like to have a variety 2:07:39.280 --> 2:07:42.160 of voices. There's you know, there is there is a 2:07:42.200 --> 2:07:50.240 big centralized media operation in in Perth, in print especially. 2:07:50.320 --> 2:07:52.640 I mean there's there's the cells in the ABC and 2:07:54.000 --> 2:08:01.680 and and a smaller electronic our it's but sales print goes. 2:08:02.440 --> 2:08:04.440 It's it's them or nothing at the moment. 2:08:04.960 --> 2:08:06.880 And we ran a yes no poll on this on Friday, 2:08:06.960 --> 2:08:09.840 would you like to see another major newspaper, major in 2:08:09.960 --> 2:08:12.880 mainstream meeting newspaper in Perth? And the yeses did win 2:08:12.960 --> 2:08:14.880 the day on Friday. And I can tell you that 2:08:15.640 --> 2:08:18.360 the finn Review people and Brett's people have been talking. 2:08:19.080 --> 2:08:22.000 So Brett has reached out to the Australian Financial Review 2:08:22.040 --> 2:08:23.800 and said we're here if you want to use the 2:08:23.840 --> 2:08:28.920 printing press. So that that has happened. The phone lines 2:08:28.960 --> 2:08:30.720 are open. As shows you haven't seen all the way 2:08:30.760 --> 2:08:33.560 through TV series you haven't watched right the way through 2:08:33.920 --> 2:08:39.040 to you know, series ten, Damien, gooday, Hi, good day. 2:08:40.320 --> 2:08:42.920 I've thought I watched the first two seasons. 2:08:42.960 --> 2:08:43.879 I think of Grim. 2:08:45.400 --> 2:08:49.040 Grim yep, yep, and Lost as well, it got a 2:08:49.080 --> 2:08:49.880 little bit weird at. 2:08:49.840 --> 2:08:53.120 The end and Lost. So Grim was Grim is in 2:08:53.200 --> 2:08:55.040 double m isn't it as in the Grim fairy tales? 2:08:56.120 --> 2:08:57.960 Yes, that's right, Sorry, yeah, yeah, yeah. 2:08:57.840 --> 2:09:00.360 Yeah, yeah, no waries. That's and lost as well, bowled 2:09:00.360 --> 2:09:00.840 out a lost. 2:09:02.000 --> 2:09:03.080 Yeah, it bailed out a lost. 2:09:03.160 --> 2:09:04.760 It's got a little bit too weird. 2:09:04.840 --> 2:09:07.800 I think I've just watched the first four seasons. 2:09:07.440 --> 2:09:11.440 Mate, Yeah, all right, all right mate, thank you, Damien. 2:09:11.480 --> 2:09:14.000 I think if Rob Letcher is listening, Rob for McCaulay 2:09:14.040 --> 2:09:16.120 here at six PR. He was big on Lost. I 2:09:16.200 --> 2:09:22.240 think one double three a eighty two. Rick says today, Simon, 2:09:22.320 --> 2:09:25.560 I tried to watch the Carlton Football Club television show 2:09:25.600 --> 2:09:28.320 until about series round six. I can't watch it anymore. 2:09:28.360 --> 2:09:31.360 It's just too hard. Thanks Rick. Yeah, that's gone south 2:09:31.400 --> 2:09:33.480 a bit, mate, hasn't it gone sideways south? Whatever you 2:09:33.520 --> 2:09:37.560 want to say. The Prime Minister Anthony Albernizi has fueled 2:09:37.600 --> 2:09:43.080 speculation that Murray Watt is Environment Minister, will will extend 2:09:43.120 --> 2:09:47.560 the Woodside contract the least contract. This was the Prime Minister. 2:09:47.600 --> 2:09:49.400 I think was this yesterday? I am this is yesterday? 2:09:49.440 --> 2:09:55.280 Wasn't it so Albow yesterday? On woodside you can't have renewables, 2:09:55.320 --> 2:09:56.880 I know you have firm in capacity. 2:09:57.680 --> 2:09:58.240 Simple as that. 2:09:59.360 --> 2:10:05.480 You don't to transition through you know, warm thoughts. 2:10:06.400 --> 2:10:09.960 You do it through a concrete proposal, which is the 2:10:10.080 --> 2:10:13.240 expansion of renewables up to eighty two percent of the grid. 2:10:13.360 --> 2:10:15.880 But the way that that occurs is it needs firm 2:10:15.960 --> 2:10:16.600 in capacity. 2:10:17.400 --> 2:10:20.040 Firm in capacity we understand it needs. It needs the 2:10:20.200 --> 2:10:25.200 gas fire power station component before we can transition to renewables, 2:10:25.200 --> 2:10:29.160 which is something that the state and federal labor governments 2:10:29.200 --> 2:10:34.080 do want to do and are committed to. Yeah, there's 2:10:34.320 --> 2:10:36.680 there's I just noticed in on I heard Carl talking 2:10:36.680 --> 2:10:39.520 about this this morning about the wind farms in Japan 2:10:39.600 --> 2:10:42.800 that are lying idle. There's a massive one billion dollar 2:10:44.080 --> 2:10:48.280 wind farm with turbines that are just stalled in Queensland 2:10:48.360 --> 2:10:52.600 as well. But we also hear on at the other 2:10:52.680 --> 2:10:55.640 end of the scale that Narranger upon Sharon arrangerup might 2:10:55.680 --> 2:10:58.440 give as many as two hundred and fifty turbines installed 2:10:58.480 --> 2:11:02.280 down there. And I do hear the argument that these 2:11:02.640 --> 2:11:09.840 turbines are replacing habitat and animals are being displaced or euthanazed. 2:11:10.080 --> 2:11:13.120 I haven't heard that in Wa. I've mostly heard that 2:11:13.200 --> 2:11:16.560 when turbines are going on to low yield agricultural land 2:11:17.280 --> 2:11:20.080 and that farmers want them, but communities are skeptical. They 2:11:20.120 --> 2:11:23.360 want to get some benefit out of these things being built. 2:11:23.920 --> 2:11:25.600 They want some money to go back into the community 2:11:25.600 --> 2:11:27.440 and they also want some power into the local grid. 2:11:28.040 --> 2:11:30.640 We've just have made contact with the Environment Minister's team, 2:11:30.760 --> 2:11:33.880 Murray Watt's team. A decision has not been finalized as 2:11:33.960 --> 2:11:37.920 yet on Woodside, it could be as soon as this Saturday, 2:11:37.960 --> 2:11:40.680 seventeen past twelve when we come back. Andrew Williams, those 2:11:40.760 --> 2:11:44.760 television series that you never quite got all the way through. Yeah, 2:11:44.800 --> 2:11:48.040 thanks listening in. We are borrowing Andrew Williams today of Oli. 2:11:48.160 --> 2:11:50.720 You'll hear him with Oli on Friday on TV streaming, 2:11:51.080 --> 2:11:53.560 and you're hearing the JB on movies on the weekend. 2:11:53.600 --> 2:11:57.120 He joins us now today, Andrew, good to talk, good 2:11:57.120 --> 2:11:59.480 to chat with you. Yeah, both types of music, putting 2:11:59.480 --> 2:12:01.880 the band back other country and Western. 2:12:01.560 --> 2:12:06.240 You me, am, I No, I won't ask that question. 2:12:06.360 --> 2:12:06.520 YEP. 2:12:07.400 --> 2:12:13.160 Three orange whips now, I don't know it started. The 2:12:13.720 --> 2:12:17.520 Handmaid's Tale finishes up today, the finale season six. I 2:12:17.640 --> 2:12:19.480 watched the first two mate, Are you have you been 2:12:19.560 --> 2:12:21.000 on board with Handmaid's Tale throughout? 2:12:22.600 --> 2:12:22.640 No? 2:12:23.040 --> 2:12:27.840 No, I haven't. I made it through episode one and 2:12:28.760 --> 2:12:32.800 it was one of the most significantly harrowing experiences of 2:12:32.920 --> 2:12:36.080 my life that I really struggled to go, Oh, I 2:12:36.120 --> 2:12:38.440 think I want a second dose of that, which is 2:12:38.520 --> 2:12:40.960 not to say that that's not the that's the point, right, 2:12:41.080 --> 2:12:43.800 that's the point, And it probably says a lot more 2:12:43.840 --> 2:12:47.920 about me than it does the show. But I did 2:12:48.000 --> 2:12:50.040 continue to watch it from from there on. But I 2:12:50.800 --> 2:12:53.360 you know, when it gave we've seen them one finished, 2:12:53.360 --> 2:12:54.960 and it gave me an opportunity to have a break, 2:12:56.040 --> 2:12:59.080 I kind of went, yeah, I don't know if I'll come. 2:12:59.200 --> 2:13:02.600 I'll come back to that Series one episode one. 2:13:04.200 --> 2:13:06.920 Yeah, No, I watched series I watched all of series one, 2:13:06.960 --> 2:13:10.560 but after just episode one, I thought this might be 2:13:10.800 --> 2:13:15.520 on borrow time. I reckon because and for me, it's 2:13:15.520 --> 2:13:17.080 a lot of the I don't mind if the show 2:13:17.160 --> 2:13:18.920 is very grim and dark and all the things that 2:13:18.960 --> 2:13:21.760 The Herman's Tail does on purpose, and it was very 2:13:21.920 --> 2:13:25.160 very well made, but it didn't it didn't sort of 2:13:25.280 --> 2:13:30.440 balance it with a watchability that I particularly found in it. 2:13:30.920 --> 2:13:33.040 And what I've found by talking to other people that 2:13:33.120 --> 2:13:35.600 have that have really stuck it out, is that it 2:13:35.760 --> 2:13:38.920 did fall off a little bit of a cliff as 2:13:38.960 --> 2:13:41.720 it went along in terms of quality. But for those 2:13:41.760 --> 2:13:43.640 that have made it to the Bitter End eight years 2:13:43.680 --> 2:13:46.680 later or whatever it is. It's airing on SBITS on 2:13:46.720 --> 2:13:50.680 demand as we speak. It's literally dropping online right now. 2:13:51.440 --> 2:13:54.120 All right, So we're asking our listeners TV series that 2:13:54.200 --> 2:13:55.680 you haven't made it all the way through. I watched 2:13:55.680 --> 2:13:58.480 the first two and I think I've told you this, Andrew. 2:13:58.720 --> 2:14:02.200 I fell asleep one during one episode in series one, 2:14:02.680 --> 2:14:05.800 and when I worked out, the hauled this poor girl 2:14:06.320 --> 2:14:08.760 out of a truck and hangar in the street. 2:14:09.360 --> 2:14:09.600 And I. 2:14:11.920 --> 2:14:16.120 Reacted badly to that, and I had nightmares about it, 2:14:16.120 --> 2:14:18.480 and you know, I was a grown up. It's bloody, 2:14:18.520 --> 2:14:20.440 brutal Handmaid's Tale, isn't it? 2:14:20.840 --> 2:14:21.040 Yeah? 2:14:21.520 --> 2:14:22.200 It is, it is. 2:14:22.440 --> 2:14:24.880 It is brutal, and I think and a lot of 2:14:24.960 --> 2:14:31.800 shows have struggle, particularly dystopian shows like like The Handmaid's Tale, 2:14:32.240 --> 2:14:35.120 with balancing that with a sort of an appropriate dose 2:14:35.200 --> 2:14:39.520 of hope or sort of reason to keep going. So 2:14:39.760 --> 2:14:43.080 my experience with this, and I won't steal anyone else's 2:14:43.520 --> 2:14:45.960 too many ideas from other people, but that the show 2:14:46.080 --> 2:14:48.160 that represented that most of all for me was The 2:14:48.280 --> 2:14:52.040 Walking Dead. Yes, yes, where I think I got to 2:14:53.160 --> 2:14:59.000 I think it was the infamous Megan episode with a 2:14:59.080 --> 2:15:03.080 baseball bat, and I went, you know what, short. 2:15:04.520 --> 2:15:07.240 Too, exactly the same episode. You and I are the 2:15:07.280 --> 2:15:10.800 same bloke. Yeah, the barbed wire wrapped around the baseball bat. Yeah, 2:15:10.960 --> 2:15:14.360 and the world was closing in and I couldn't see 2:15:14.480 --> 2:15:17.880 any ray of sunshine or hope. It made me despondent, Andrew. 2:15:18.440 --> 2:15:19.800 Yeah, and I think there was a point, and I 2:15:19.840 --> 2:15:21.640 think it's only got worse as the show went along, 2:15:22.200 --> 2:15:25.120 But there was a point where I realized that all 2:15:25.200 --> 2:15:27.760 of the almost all of the original characters that I 2:15:27.920 --> 2:15:30.320 had watched were now dead. 2:15:30.640 --> 2:15:32.320 Yeah yeah, yeah, and. 2:15:32.600 --> 2:15:34.360 Not all of them, but almost all of them. And 2:15:34.480 --> 2:15:37.400 I kind of started going, well, what's the point of 2:15:37.520 --> 2:15:40.440 any of this, Like, if it's not an incredibly watchable show, 2:15:40.560 --> 2:15:44.000 which it certainly wasn't by that point, I just kind 2:15:44.040 --> 2:15:46.280 of went, I just don't know if I can have 2:15:46.520 --> 2:15:49.440 this level of misery in my life on a regular basis. 2:15:49.560 --> 2:15:53.320 Yeah, Brendan, Brendan agrees to you and I the Blacklist 2:15:54.240 --> 2:15:56.840 and Walking Dead season nine. I didn't get to season nine. 2:15:56.880 --> 2:15:59.840 I got the four or five I think about. Yeah, silly, 2:15:59.840 --> 2:16:02.360 but there you go. Thanks Brendan, appreciate it. Now we've 2:16:02.360 --> 2:16:05.960 got an off topic question from Jeff and Bayswater. Who 2:16:06.320 --> 2:16:11.040 is who is the poster child? Off the topic questions today? 2:16:11.160 --> 2:16:14.360 Jeff oh Hi Simon. Yeah, I was just a little 2:16:14.400 --> 2:16:15.360 bit confused day. 2:16:15.560 --> 2:16:17.560 But I'd like to know. 2:16:18.720 --> 2:16:20.880 I like to know, Andrew, I've actually got. 2:16:21.360 --> 2:16:24.160 Someone sent it to me Scarface two. 2:16:24.560 --> 2:16:26.520 Is that actually going to be a movie or is 2:16:26.600 --> 2:16:27.600 that going to be a series? 2:16:27.760 --> 2:16:30.040 Or is it true? 2:16:33.360 --> 2:16:38.480 I have not heard anything about this, I as there 2:16:38.520 --> 2:16:41.920 are there is quite a lot of fake trailers on 2:16:42.000 --> 2:16:45.160 the internet. I don't know if anyone has sent you 2:16:45.720 --> 2:16:48.640 anything along those, but I can't see anything from any 2:16:48.760 --> 2:16:52.760 reputable source that indicates that there is a Scarface two 2:16:53.720 --> 2:16:56.720 in the works. There is a Scarface remake that was 2:16:56.800 --> 2:17:00.360 going to be made at some stage, but that has 2:17:00.400 --> 2:17:02.600 been that's been in development for a long time. It 2:17:02.680 --> 2:17:04.840 doesn't seem to be moving forward. So I don't know 2:17:04.920 --> 2:17:07.240 that i'd be pinning anything to your calendar at this point. 2:17:08.680 --> 2:17:12.680 Just the room you heard at the Basewater Hotel, I suspect, Jeff, yeah, 2:17:12.800 --> 2:17:16.720 under the influence, Yeah very much, all right, mate, thank you, one, 2:17:16.760 --> 2:17:19.520 double three, A two. That TV series, he didn't make 2:17:19.560 --> 2:17:22.120 it all the way through. Andrew and I have been 2:17:22.160 --> 2:17:27.200 the same on Handmaid's Tail, and also on The Walking Dead, 2:17:27.240 --> 2:17:30.960 which just got really really tough to watch. I'm what, 2:17:31.000 --> 2:17:32.920 I am struggling to go back to a bit and 2:17:33.040 --> 2:17:36.320 I do like I do like the books. Is Reacher 2:17:37.160 --> 2:17:39.720 I keep sort of oh yeah, bailing out to get 2:17:39.800 --> 2:17:41.640 out of that. Reaches hasn't quite grabbed me. 2:17:43.120 --> 2:17:45.640 Yeah, that's interesting because that's only at season three. That's 2:17:45.720 --> 2:17:47.240 not a great That's not a great sign, is it. 2:17:48.120 --> 2:17:50.280 I've got one from sort of the right over the 2:17:50.320 --> 2:17:51.760 other side of the fence. I mean, all the shows 2:17:51.800 --> 2:17:56.000 we've talked about have been really grim, violent kind of shows. 2:17:56.680 --> 2:18:00.920 I gave up on Glee. That's I think. At the 2:18:01.040 --> 2:18:04.320 end of season three, I sort of had an epiphany 2:18:04.640 --> 2:18:07.080 and I realized that what I was watching was very bad, 2:18:07.640 --> 2:18:10.280 and it had been bad for about a season, and 2:18:10.600 --> 2:18:13.520 I was still coasting on the glow of those first 2:18:13.560 --> 2:18:15.960 couple of seasons, and then it sort of dissipated on 2:18:16.080 --> 2:18:18.920 me without warning, and I suddenly realized that I was 2:18:18.959 --> 2:18:19.560 wasting my time. 2:18:19.600 --> 2:18:21.920 You do you like that, John, don't you? Ordinarily? 2:18:22.200 --> 2:18:24.959 Yeah, Look, as everyone knows, I love a show tune 2:18:25.600 --> 2:18:29.600 and I love a musical, and I was I was, 2:18:29.920 --> 2:18:32.560 I was right into it for the first couple of seasons, 2:18:32.560 --> 2:18:34.720 and then there was Yeah. I remember the moment quite vividly, 2:18:34.760 --> 2:18:37.480 but I just went, nah, I'm done, I'm out, I'm moving, 2:18:37.520 --> 2:18:39.360 I'm moving on to something else. I'm spending my time 2:18:39.440 --> 2:18:41.560 on a show that respects it. 2:18:41.800 --> 2:18:42.000 Yeah. 2:18:42.160 --> 2:18:48.160 Nah, I got to two episodes to go in Squid Game. 2:18:49.680 --> 2:18:51.039 Oh yeah, yeah, season one? 2:18:51.240 --> 2:18:56.640 Yeah right, and yeah, now I need to go and 2:18:57.200 --> 2:18:59.840 do some voluntary work somewhere or make better. 2:18:59.760 --> 2:19:06.960 Get a positive contribution to society. Instead, I've got one more. 2:19:08.760 --> 2:19:10.520 And again I don't mean to steal one for other people, 2:19:10.560 --> 2:19:17.800 but the House of Cards, the American version, really really 2:19:17.920 --> 2:19:22.400 ran off the rails hard to particularly, sort of like 2:19:22.560 --> 2:19:24.879 season four or five, and just completely lost its way, 2:19:25.320 --> 2:19:28.320 and then obviously beyond that things only got worse somehow 2:19:28.400 --> 2:19:31.240 from there. So yeah, So that one was one where 2:19:31.280 --> 2:19:33.920 I was like, again, I just realized that. And I 2:19:33.959 --> 2:19:35.760 think this is a thing with a lot of streaming 2:19:35.840 --> 2:19:38.240 shows as well, is that they don't have any limits 2:19:38.280 --> 2:19:42.080 on time, so they don't edit stuff. And editing is 2:19:42.160 --> 2:19:44.760 the great lost skill of making television. There is absolutely 2:19:44.840 --> 2:19:47.320 no reason that anything anyone makes ever to be longer 2:19:47.600 --> 2:19:49.480 than it needs to be, and yet they do it 2:19:49.520 --> 2:19:49.920 all the time. 2:19:50.040 --> 2:19:53.480 Yeah, yeah, that's I hadn't thought of that will. And 2:19:53.840 --> 2:19:56.360 when we were discussing this this morning with my hard 2:19:56.400 --> 2:19:59.840 working team, game, inevitably the topic of Game of Thrones 2:20:00.000 --> 2:20:03.600 came up, and that that very odd last season where 2:20:03.600 --> 2:20:08.280 we got to you can actually physically see and feel 2:20:08.400 --> 2:20:10.920 when the book stopped, and then there were four more 2:20:11.000 --> 2:20:13.240 episodes where people go, what do we do now? 2:20:14.760 --> 2:20:18.039 Yep? This is my this is my catchphrase around television, 2:20:18.080 --> 2:20:19.640 which is here, we always get into trouble when we 2:20:19.800 --> 2:20:22.800 run out of book, and this is the concern that 2:20:22.879 --> 2:20:26.160 I have around Shogun when that comes back to season two, 2:20:26.200 --> 2:20:28.120 because there's no more book. I've run out of a book. 2:20:28.800 --> 2:20:30.800 It's happened to a lot of other shows, and I 2:20:30.879 --> 2:20:33.160 think you can you're absolutely right. With Game of Thrones. 2:20:33.320 --> 2:20:36.000 There was just it's like different people started making the 2:20:36.040 --> 2:20:38.280 show as soon as they ran out of book, and 2:20:39.280 --> 2:20:41.760 they were they're real trouble. But that is when I'm 2:20:41.800 --> 2:20:43.920 glad I saw through to the end, if only for 2:20:44.040 --> 2:20:47.720 the discourse, the discussion around it that I can participate in. 2:20:47.879 --> 2:20:50.640 Yeah, it was all very weird. It was so so 2:20:50.840 --> 2:20:53.360 interconnected and so clever, and then it's just yeah, it's 2:20:53.560 --> 2:20:58.440 it's yeah, it was the Mate compiled by Chickens the last. 2:20:58.240 --> 2:21:01.120 Four Yes, I can give you one show that I 2:21:01.240 --> 2:21:05.520 reckon almost everyone will have had this at some stage. 2:21:05.600 --> 2:21:08.400 I suspect there is a show that I think almost 2:21:08.440 --> 2:21:12.360 everyone has given up on at some point, and at 2:21:12.440 --> 2:21:15.640 that time will differ depending on the person. Some people 2:21:15.720 --> 2:21:17.480 may be sticking with it, but I reckon almost everyone 2:21:17.520 --> 2:21:19.360 would have a point at which they gave up on 2:21:19.400 --> 2:21:24.360 The Simpsons because it's been you know, it's thirty five seasons. 2:21:24.400 --> 2:21:26.480 That's just a lot for one human to watch, and 2:21:28.560 --> 2:21:30.640 so I think I think people will have had this 2:21:30.760 --> 2:21:33.480 experience with that show at some stage as well, and 2:21:34.000 --> 2:21:35.280 no doubt mileage will vary. 2:21:35.640 --> 2:21:38.480 Yeah, Yeah, that's that's a really good one. And it's 2:21:38.640 --> 2:21:40.840 nice to know. It's nice to know that, you know, 2:21:41.000 --> 2:21:45.160 maybe what's that Atlantis still exists the yetty It's nice 2:21:45.200 --> 2:21:48.320 to know they're still out there, maybe the filer scene, 2:21:48.760 --> 2:21:50.760 and there's still episodes as the Symptoms out there that 2:21:50.800 --> 2:21:54.160 we haven't seen. If I can, yeah, draw a very 2:21:54.200 --> 2:21:59.840 long bow in the mountains somewhere yet there's just a 2:21:59.879 --> 2:22:02.720 lot of it. Yeah, there is, Hey, mate, brilliant, really nice. 2:22:02.720 --> 2:22:04.560 It's all to you. We'll hear you on Friday with 2:22:04.680 --> 2:22:07.680 Oliver and on the weekends with our mate Jamie Burnett. 2:22:08.600 --> 2:22:09.800 Absolutely great chat to you. 2:22:09.879 --> 2:22:13.440 Thanks having see mate Andrew Williams who back in the day, 2:22:13.720 --> 2:22:15.440 back in the day used to be a producer on 2:22:15.560 --> 2:22:19.720 this show. Andrew Williams fine fine producery was as well. 2:22:19.760 --> 2:22:23.040 But now he's he's found his mark now doing what 2:22:23.640 --> 2:22:26.480 he does our yes, no question today? Is the sideline 2:22:26.520 --> 2:22:28.720 behavior of parents in junior sports still an issue? What 2:22:28.760 --> 2:22:32.160 he's seeing the YESTERDA Twenty four of the nos are thirteen. 2:22:32.520 --> 2:22:35.440 This on the back of on Sunday at a junior 2:22:36.000 --> 2:22:40.040 soccer match under eleven's we think under eleven Mini rus 2:22:40.520 --> 2:22:45.480 up At Mindari, a bloke allegedly from the Whitford City 2:22:46.240 --> 2:22:48.720 Football Club, forty two year old you've heard about him 2:22:48.720 --> 2:22:51.400 in our news managed to grab hold of an eleven 2:22:51.480 --> 2:22:53.440 year old players neck and we'll have his day in 2:22:53.520 --> 2:22:59.760 court in June. They are the allegations. Gooday, Gary, Gary, 2:22:59.800 --> 2:23:01.600 there did. 2:23:01.440 --> 2:23:05.279 I farmnandre a? My line Blue Bloods with Tom Seller 2:23:05.840 --> 2:23:09.160 probably watched the first three series and then it's started 2:23:09.240 --> 2:23:13.280 repening itself. It's sort of a bit repetitious. 2:23:13.360 --> 2:23:17.520 That's Thanks, Garrett. What era is that? Mate? When was 2:23:17.560 --> 2:23:18.279 that shown. 2:23:21.000 --> 2:23:21.640 In the eighties? 2:23:22.440 --> 2:23:22.600 Yeah? 2:23:22.600 --> 2:23:29.360 Okay, all right ninety? Yeah, thanks Gary, choose mate twenty 2:23:29.400 --> 2:23:32.959 eight minutes to one o'clock on the show. Next, Craig Bloxham, 2:23:33.040 --> 2:23:37.320 who is the singer, songwriter, lead vocalist, league guitarist in 2:23:37.360 --> 2:23:40.600 Spy Versus Spy. Stay listening, Carl. The k Issus is 2:23:40.640 --> 2:23:43.280 his handmade's tail. Heyes, it dropped off, but this last series, 2:23:43.400 --> 2:23:46.640 number six redeemed itself and he's really good. Exclamation mark. 2:23:46.680 --> 2:23:48.760 Thank you, Carl. Thanks for you, correspondence. Let's go to 2:23:48.800 --> 2:23:51.400 our new droom here at six PR. John Nichols, good afternoon. 2:23:51.160 --> 2:23:51.360 Thank you. 2:23:51.520 --> 2:23:54.520 Simon, good afternoon. West Australians who are members of the 2:23:54.600 --> 2:23:58.240 Stolen Generations will receive eighty five thousand dollars each under 2:23:58.320 --> 2:24:00.840 an addressed scheme that'll take effect the end of the month. 2:24:01.200 --> 2:24:05.080 Stolen Generations redress schemes were recommended in the nineteen ninety 2:24:05.120 --> 2:24:08.440 seven Bringing Them Home Report. Until now all states and 2:24:08.600 --> 2:24:11.680 territories but w Way and Queensland had announced their schemes. 2:24:12.200 --> 2:24:12.879 The man who. 2:24:12.840 --> 2:24:15.800 Sexually assaulted and murdered an eight year old girl in 2:24:15.920 --> 2:24:19.480 a shopping center bathroom in canning Vale has been denied 2:24:19.520 --> 2:24:23.320 parole for a third time. Dante Arthur's was initially jailed 2:24:23.320 --> 2:24:26.120 for thirteen years, but the state's homicide laws have since 2:24:26.200 --> 2:24:29.039 been overhauled to allow such offenders to be jailed for life. 2:24:29.600 --> 2:24:31.760 It's been a house fire in Perth's North that's led 2:24:31.800 --> 2:24:34.120 to a smoke alert being issued for the entire suburb. 2:24:34.440 --> 2:24:36.959 Firefighters were called to the home and clerks in about 2:24:37.000 --> 2:24:39.320 twenty to eleven. The fire was put out a short 2:24:39.360 --> 2:24:42.800 time later. No one's been hurt. Alexipoprin is among three 2:24:42.840 --> 2:24:45.280 Australians through to round two of the French Open, and 2:24:45.520 --> 2:24:48.080 Collingwood will be bolstered by the return of several star 2:24:48.240 --> 2:24:51.200 players for Fridays of Blockbuster Clash with Hawthorne at the 2:24:51.280 --> 2:24:54.440 g Darcy Moore's Steel Side Bottom at Lockey Shultz, Scott 2:24:54.520 --> 2:24:58.200 Pendlebury and Bobby Hill will all be available. Eighteen degrees 2:24:58.240 --> 2:25:01.160 at the moment, nine overnight, mostly sumy and twenty three 2:25:01.320 --> 2:25:02.760 tomorrow more news one. 2:25:03.000 --> 2:25:05.879 Thank you very much, John, appreciate that. And we'll look 2:25:05.920 --> 2:25:09.080 at Nichols Niche tomorrow. John mightn't being a Wednesday, Yes 2:25:09.160 --> 2:25:11.360 we will, we will. We are looking forward to it 2:25:11.680 --> 2:25:14.040 me too. Yeah, thank you John, John Nichols. We're lucky 2:25:14.040 --> 2:25:17.959 to have him our news reader here through the afternoon. 2:25:17.959 --> 2:25:21.800 You hear John's work on Perth Live with Oliver. Do 2:25:21.879 --> 2:25:23.800 you remember this song, folks? Do you remember it as 2:25:23.800 --> 2:25:54.440 straight and classic big Sound? Formed in nineteen eighty one, 2:25:54.640 --> 2:25:56.959 Spy versus Spy. They've been called lots of things over 2:25:57.000 --> 2:25:59.920 the years. They are now the r Spies, Craig Blots 2:26:00.080 --> 2:26:04.360 the gun lead man, front man for spies and the 2:26:04.400 --> 2:26:06.200 our spies joined us now good they Craig good to 2:26:06.240 --> 2:26:06.520 talk to you. 2:26:07.560 --> 2:26:12.240 Hey, God, how does everybody over in wa going well? 2:26:12.320 --> 2:26:15.480 Mate? Going absolutely beautiful, beautifully. Can't wait to see you 2:26:15.600 --> 2:26:18.320 guys over here in early June. I'll let people know 2:26:18.400 --> 2:26:20.840 how they can come and see you. Big sound for 2:26:20.959 --> 2:26:22.959 three piece, wasn't it, mate? When you look back and good? 2:26:23.560 --> 2:26:26.119 I say this to all our gun guests, good songs, 2:26:26.160 --> 2:26:28.360 hold up, Oh, thank you. 2:26:28.480 --> 2:26:30.440 Look, thank you very much. We were in the right 2:26:30.520 --> 2:26:33.200 place at the right time, I think. But there is 2:26:33.360 --> 2:26:37.119 something special about a three piece band in the sunset. 2:26:38.280 --> 2:26:40.920 You've got nowhere to hide, so you've really got to 2:26:42.320 --> 2:26:46.480 come up with the goods. And we were always very 2:26:46.680 --> 2:26:50.600 socially minded, So we just wrote songs about what we 2:26:50.760 --> 2:26:55.880 saw around us and social issues and the politics of 2:26:56.000 --> 2:27:01.080 the time. And yeah, yeah, spies were a great part 2:27:01.160 --> 2:27:04.720 of my life. I feel grateful to have been part 2:27:04.760 --> 2:27:04.920 of it. 2:27:05.240 --> 2:27:06.840 You did have a cracked any or that that was, 2:27:07.440 --> 2:27:13.520 you know, political, political staff, homelessness, credit cards, all, all 2:27:13.560 --> 2:27:15.760 of that was in the mix on Harry's Reasons and 2:27:15.800 --> 2:27:18.400 on AO modified TV version, which are two of my 2:27:18.520 --> 2:27:20.840 favorite albums. Here. You had to go there stuff, didn't you. 2:27:22.200 --> 2:27:25.360 We did because we felt strongly that the world was 2:27:25.520 --> 2:27:30.400 kind of going topsy turvy. Like one of the lines 2:27:30.440 --> 2:27:34.560 from Credit Cards is half a world with credit cards 2:27:34.600 --> 2:27:37.120 and the other half the left to starve. And sadly, 2:27:37.320 --> 2:27:42.200 I think it's still kind of relevant today, which is 2:27:42.280 --> 2:27:46.720 why we've done the ass Bys. We've just taken all 2:27:46.760 --> 2:27:51.800 the songs from a long time ago and reimagined them 2:27:52.000 --> 2:27:57.279 with a bit of a mongrel rock rock sound. 2:27:59.000 --> 2:28:02.119 Hey, Craig, I saw your live a lot of times. 2:28:02.200 --> 2:28:04.720 You were always sort of two or three on the bill, 2:28:04.800 --> 2:28:06.840 and that's sort of where you've seen the fit wasn't 2:28:06.879 --> 2:28:08.840 it was just you just smash it out for an hour. 2:28:10.200 --> 2:28:12.800 It seemed that you had all that live energy that 2:28:12.920 --> 2:28:14.800 was a big part of Spies back then, wasn't it. 2:28:15.920 --> 2:28:19.200 Well, well, it really was. We're full of, full of, 2:28:21.040 --> 2:28:24.560 full of the power and the passion to quote the oils. 2:28:24.800 --> 2:28:28.359 But it's going to be the same thing this weekend. 2:28:28.520 --> 2:28:32.280 I haven't changed that much apart from getting older, and 2:28:32.320 --> 2:28:37.920 I've got two great musicians with me. We've got Chris 2:28:38.000 --> 2:28:40.720 Lowe on drums and he pounds the crap out of 2:28:40.840 --> 2:28:45.840 his drums. And we've got a young Maori guy on guitar, 2:28:46.160 --> 2:28:49.800 t Koy Tarawa from New Zealand and of course they've 2:28:49.840 --> 2:28:54.240 got a very big reggae scene over in New Zealand 2:28:54.320 --> 2:28:57.600 and he's brought brought that to the band, which we 2:28:58.040 --> 2:29:02.360 recorded on our debut album Unit Again, which came out 2:29:02.560 --> 2:29:05.279 last year and it went top ten in the Arian 2:29:05.400 --> 2:29:08.480 sharts for a week, but it was top ten, top ten, 2:29:08.879 --> 2:29:09.360 top ten. 2:29:09.600 --> 2:29:13.200 We just played I'll get Max to play Don't Tear 2:29:13.240 --> 2:29:15.560 It Down from the Asspy, so the reggae version of 2:29:15.680 --> 2:29:18.720 the of the epic Don't Tear It Down. Have a listen, 2:29:20.400 --> 2:30:16.320 here we go. That's cool mate, that works as a 2:30:16.520 --> 2:30:20.080 still nice and loud maybe thank you. 2:30:20.200 --> 2:30:23.960 We had a lot of fun recording and it's just 2:30:24.240 --> 2:30:26.320 like the Spies. It's just completely different. 2:30:27.360 --> 2:30:29.400 Yeah, yeah it is. Yeah, it's the same, but it's different. 2:30:29.879 --> 2:30:30.560 How's it going down? 2:30:30.600 --> 2:30:30.800 Live? 2:30:30.879 --> 2:30:31.039 Mate? 2:30:31.040 --> 2:30:33.119 And the pipe sound good? The voice is holding up. 2:30:34.000 --> 2:30:37.080 Thank you, the voice is holding up. It's a miracle, 2:30:37.240 --> 2:30:42.280 but but it is. We're going down really well. A 2:30:42.400 --> 2:30:47.160 lot of people have been very, very skeptical because a 2:30:47.240 --> 2:30:50.200 lot of people hear the word reggae and they go, 2:30:50.560 --> 2:30:51.320 I don't really. 2:30:51.400 --> 2:30:52.400 Like that kind of music. 2:30:52.520 --> 2:30:56.480 But all of the fans of the music who come 2:30:56.560 --> 2:31:01.320 and see the band, they always come up afterwards and say, look, 2:31:01.400 --> 2:31:04.560 I wasn't sure what to expect, but you guys are 2:31:04.640 --> 2:31:08.920 absolutely pumping because I've got a couple of younger guys 2:31:09.080 --> 2:31:12.320 with me, so they can actually play a lot better 2:31:12.480 --> 2:31:16.760 than I can. So I'm relying on them. The Spies. 2:31:16.920 --> 2:31:19.640 We just get up there like the old Spies did, 2:31:20.040 --> 2:31:23.080 and we just pound the hell out of everything and 2:31:23.200 --> 2:31:26.279 it's a lot of fun. And our old time fans 2:31:26.520 --> 2:31:30.240 really are saying that it's just a trip down down 2:31:30.400 --> 2:31:31.039 memory lane. 2:31:31.080 --> 2:31:32.600 What are you playing? What is when are you playing? 2:31:32.640 --> 2:31:33.080 On that track? 2:31:34.480 --> 2:31:37.680 I play the bass and I sing and I jump 2:31:37.760 --> 2:31:38.800 around like an idiot. 2:31:39.000 --> 2:31:42.959 Yeah, the bass, They make the Steve Kilby once told me, Craig, 2:31:43.040 --> 2:31:44.360 he says, I like the bass because you make the 2:31:44.400 --> 2:31:46.400 whole building shake, you make dust come out of the roof. 2:31:48.320 --> 2:31:52.160 That's right, good on you, Steve Kilby. He's written some 2:31:52.760 --> 2:31:54.040 great Australian songs. 2:31:54.200 --> 2:31:57.160 Yeah, he has of you, mate. Our spires are playing 2:31:57.160 --> 2:31:59.440 the Amplifier on May the thirtieth, the River Hotel, Mate 2:31:59.480 --> 2:32:02.040 River on May the thirty first, and the Indian Ocean 2:32:02.120 --> 2:32:05.680 Hotel on June the first, which is absolutely perfect down 2:32:05.720 --> 2:32:08.520 there with the Ocean Hotel where the carpet sticks to 2:32:08.560 --> 2:32:11.000 your shoes. Craig, you'll like that, Hey, may just done. 2:32:12.040 --> 2:32:13.920 Just going back to some of the and this is 2:32:14.120 --> 2:32:16.240 I was talking to my gang about this this morning. 2:32:16.280 --> 2:32:18.640 When when I when I start my car and I 2:32:18.760 --> 2:32:21.160 plug my phone in through the through the auxiliary chord 2:32:21.200 --> 2:32:24.640 into the thing, it plays songs in alphabetical order that 2:32:24.680 --> 2:32:28.039 I got stored. The instrumental version of AO modified comes 2:32:28.080 --> 2:32:30.360 on every time, every time me and the kitchen in 2:32:30.400 --> 2:32:32.960 the car. It's every single time we hear that that 2:32:33.120 --> 2:32:34.920 song as soon as we get in the how Good 2:32:35.200 --> 2:32:36.440 and the other one. I wanted to ask you one 2:32:36.480 --> 2:32:40.920 of your more whimsical songs is use your Head and 2:32:42.720 --> 2:32:45.480 are awesome? Great song? Was that bloke real? Was that 2:32:46.120 --> 2:32:49.720 the bloke who's late for work, drunk driving, losing job? 2:32:49.840 --> 2:32:50.600 Is that a real bloke? 2:32:51.720 --> 2:32:55.240 Well, yeah, it was me actually I wrote about me. 2:32:57.000 --> 2:33:01.240 I've lost my license three times. Look, let's not go 2:33:01.400 --> 2:33:05.520 into the silly things that we've done, but everyone does 2:33:05.840 --> 2:33:08.240 silly things and that was just kind of my song. 2:33:08.440 --> 2:33:12.120 We're writing about. Please don't be like me, don't be silly. 2:33:12.400 --> 2:33:13.119 Use your head? 2:33:14.280 --> 2:33:16.760 How many times have you? Well that, well, that that 2:33:16.959 --> 2:33:18.680 is a revelation. I thought you were going to say, no, 2:33:18.760 --> 2:33:21.520 he's just a hybrid makeup of all my loser mates. 2:33:21.560 --> 2:33:25.280 But it was auto biographical. 2:33:25.640 --> 2:33:28.600 Three times mate, I've lost my license three times. So yeah, 2:33:28.879 --> 2:33:33.400 but we are really looking forward to playing at the 2:33:34.480 --> 2:33:38.720 Indian Nation and well all of the gigs. We're going 2:33:38.800 --> 2:33:41.400 to play the Golden Mile as well, which we wrote 2:33:41.400 --> 2:33:44.640 about Calgooley and we're just going to have a great time. 2:33:45.440 --> 2:33:49.640 The band's really firing and everyone can look forward to 2:33:50.959 --> 2:33:51.560 a great night. 2:33:52.240 --> 2:33:53.800 Really good to talk to you, mate, And thanks to 2:33:53.840 --> 2:33:55.920 Bob Gordon to organized the chat and the good fellow 2:33:55.959 --> 2:33:59.600 Bob the former editor's Great Express Magazine Here in perfect 2:33:59.600 --> 2:34:02.480 massive out of the w music scene. Nice to chat 2:34:02.520 --> 2:34:05.160 to you, Craig. Go Well, it's the May the thirtieth, 2:34:05.200 --> 2:34:07.800 the Amplify the River Hotel in mart River, May thirty first, 2:34:08.360 --> 2:34:10.880 and down at the Union Hotel on during the first 2:34:10.959 --> 2:34:12.000 Cheers mate, good to talk to you. 2:34:12.959 --> 2:34:15.600 Thank you very very much. It's this weekend. See you 2:34:15.680 --> 2:34:16.439 there everybody. 2:34:16.600 --> 2:34:21.240 Yeah, cheers mate, Thank you. Craig Bloxham Ripper. They were 2:34:21.320 --> 2:34:23.080 good band, Spies and as I say, they sort of 2:34:23.200 --> 2:34:25.200 fitted in a second or third on the bill, didn't they. 2:34:26.200 --> 2:34:28.560 And they were a countdown band nineteen eighty one. They 2:34:28.640 --> 2:34:30.480 came out, they played some big gigs, they played some 2:34:30.520 --> 2:34:33.840 little gigs. Here's another sample of so we played Don't 2:34:33.840 --> 2:34:37.320 Tear It Down the Reggae the R Spires version, and 2:34:37.440 --> 2:35:03.359 here's here's credit cards big bass sound there from Craig Bloxham. 2:35:03.440 --> 2:35:06.000 The Spy versus Spires are now called the R Spires 2:35:06.080 --> 2:35:08.520 is and the Reggae Spires, and that here this weekend. 2:35:08.600 --> 2:35:10.480 Go and see them May. By the sound of this, 2:35:11.840 --> 2:35:23.000 you'll have a good night. How good reggae crossover thirty 2:35:23.080 --> 2:35:24.800 minutes to one o'clock. We'll come back in and just 2:35:24.879 --> 2:35:27.000 a moment let you know how our poul is going today. 2:35:27.760 --> 2:35:32.800 Junior sport parental behavior on the sidelines, yes or no? 2:35:33.000 --> 2:35:33.920 Are you concerned about it? 2:35:35.200 --> 2:35:36.880 God? 2:35:40.600 --> 2:35:42.160 Our caller of the day today win a couple of 2:35:42.160 --> 2:35:44.720 tickets to go and see Western Falls playing the British 2:35:44.720 --> 2:35:48.360 and Irish Lions when they're here later next month. So 2:35:48.680 --> 2:35:50.760 that's our call of the day prize. We'll give that 2:35:50.800 --> 2:35:52.600 away in just a moment. It's nine and a half 2:35:52.640 --> 2:35:56.920 minutes to one o'clock. Is the sideline behavior of parents 2:35:56.959 --> 2:35:58.960 in junior sports still an issue? What are you seeing 2:36:00.640 --> 2:36:03.000 rather than what you're reading or hearing? What are you seeing? 2:36:03.040 --> 2:36:05.160 And the yes is are twenty seven? The nose a sixteen? 2:36:05.600 --> 2:36:09.560 So reasonably balanced today in our poll Oli. We'll talk 2:36:09.600 --> 2:36:10.880 to Olie in a moment just to find out what 2:36:10.959 --> 2:36:13.960 he does have on his show this afternoon between one 2:36:14.040 --> 2:36:16.960 on five and Perth Live a bit more on the 2:36:17.040 --> 2:36:23.280 Northwest Shelf. So mister Albinizi has flagged potentially that the 2:36:24.200 --> 2:36:30.040 lease will be extended. The naysayers are lining up today 2:36:30.160 --> 2:36:34.640 and this week with their thoughts, which they're entitled to do, 2:36:34.720 --> 2:36:38.039 of course, as long as they invade Meg O'Neil's home. 2:36:38.160 --> 2:36:40.840 Trespass on a home and put paint on a fence 2:36:40.920 --> 2:36:43.680 in a wall and do all of that because that's illegal. 2:36:44.400 --> 2:36:47.440 The Conservation Council WA and other environment groups will host 2:36:47.480 --> 2:36:49.760 a demonstration at Parliament House today from five thirty to 2:36:49.879 --> 2:36:53.920 seven thirty. So for them, this is a clear public 2:36:54.000 --> 2:36:57.400 rejection from these groups of wood sized Northwest Shelf gas 2:36:57.480 --> 2:37:01.120 plant expansion and its long term impacts they say on climate, 2:37:01.280 --> 2:37:05.480 nature and First Nations culture. So there get together this 2:37:05.640 --> 2:37:12.640 afternoon at Parliament from five thirty. Will will involve giant 2:37:12.680 --> 2:37:16.320 inflatable caricature puppets, banners and performances by their drummers for 2:37:16.400 --> 2:37:19.240 climate action for those of you who do want to go. 2:37:19.480 --> 2:37:22.840 But it certainly seemed albo yesterday. See the flag that 2:37:23.320 --> 2:37:25.040 it's going to get a green light, whether it be 2:37:25.160 --> 2:37:27.120 watered down or whether it be pull pared back a 2:37:27.120 --> 2:37:29.680 little bit as in the term of the lease, or 2:37:29.760 --> 2:37:32.560 there are other parts of it. But it looks like murray, 2:37:32.560 --> 2:37:35.440 what is going to make a decision. We had heard 2:37:35.480 --> 2:37:40.800 from Chamber of Minerals and sorry AMEIC the Association of 2:37:40.879 --> 2:37:45.880 Mining explor Exploration and what's the sea in that olie 2:37:46.480 --> 2:37:50.560 A cool people, cool people they met with a company. 2:37:50.680 --> 2:38:00.600 Thank you, Thanks Anne. Thanks thank god for Australian mining exploration, 2:38:00.800 --> 2:38:07.280 cool people, thank god for really organized smart producers. Thank 2:38:07.320 --> 2:38:09.760 you Anne. Thank you Sean good a mate. What have 2:38:09.840 --> 2:38:10.520 you got for us today? 2:38:10.920 --> 2:38:13.600 This afternoon, Bowie, we will be talking to a Perth 2:38:13.680 --> 2:38:18.720 principle who has just published a letter to parents reminding 2:38:18.760 --> 2:38:22.640 them to parents. Yeah, okay, so there's just recently been 2:38:22.959 --> 2:38:28.400 a international conference for boys' schools where it's being described 2:38:28.440 --> 2:38:32.800 as a global epidemic that basically parents have forgotten how 2:38:32.800 --> 2:38:36.600 to parents and the children are the ones who rule 2:38:36.640 --> 2:38:37.400 the roost at home. 2:38:37.560 --> 2:38:38.560 Mom and dad don't like to. 2:38:38.560 --> 2:38:43.000 Say no to their sons in this example anymore, and 2:38:43.080 --> 2:38:46.560 that it is becoming increasingly difficult for teachers to be 2:38:46.640 --> 2:38:49.680 able to set boundaries and put rules in place. Now, Bowie, 2:38:49.680 --> 2:38:51.920 we've been hearing that on the talkback lines anecdotally for 2:38:52.240 --> 2:38:55.560 quite some time. But if we're now getting our educators 2:38:55.640 --> 2:38:57.320 having to get to the point where they are the 2:38:57.400 --> 2:38:59.440 ones who have to write to the parents to remind 2:38:59.480 --> 2:39:01.320 them that they need to do their job, but hold 2:39:01.400 --> 2:39:03.800 up there into the bargain, is it it just a 2:39:03.920 --> 2:39:06.840 generational change? Obviously, I'm a young dad and I know 2:39:06.920 --> 2:39:08.760 how I was brought up by my parents and saw 2:39:08.760 --> 2:39:11.560 how they were brought up by their parents. This kind of, 2:39:11.680 --> 2:39:15.280 you know, soft parenting approach, where you know your son 2:39:15.360 --> 2:39:18.120 or your daughter might make the decisions about when they 2:39:18.280 --> 2:39:20.600 want to go to bed, or what television show or 2:39:20.640 --> 2:39:23.560 what they might want to stream on their iPad. We 2:39:23.680 --> 2:39:25.320 all live in a society that he is governed by 2:39:25.440 --> 2:39:27.720 rules and regulations. When you get out of school, it's 2:39:27.760 --> 2:39:29.160 not like your parents are going to be bringing up 2:39:29.160 --> 2:39:30.560 the boss to say, you. 2:39:30.600 --> 2:39:32.280 Know, oh can you help Holly out here? 2:39:32.440 --> 2:39:34.040 You know, he doesn't really want to turn up today. 2:39:34.080 --> 2:39:37.200 Oh why because Simon spoke to him Paula yesterday. You know, 2:39:37.720 --> 2:39:39.959 that's the sort of breed of children we're bringing up 2:39:40.040 --> 2:39:40.760 these days. 2:39:40.560 --> 2:39:43.360 A missive parenting. I was just a pet on my screen, Oliver. 2:39:43.600 --> 2:39:47.320 I wonder if their educator wrote to me. I don't 2:39:47.320 --> 2:39:49.320 know if I've forgotten had a parent, because I'm not 2:39:49.360 --> 2:39:50.400 sure I evern knew how to do it in the 2:39:50.440 --> 2:39:56.560 first time, just kind of made it up. Are you 2:39:56.640 --> 2:39:57.880 doing good day to day? Thank you? 2:39:58.440 --> 2:39:59.200 So? Are you fair? 2:40:00.200 --> 2:40:01.680 And they say he's not supposed to be mates with 2:40:01.760 --> 2:40:02.119 your kids? 2:40:02.480 --> 2:40:03.200 Yeah, I know. 2:40:03.840 --> 2:40:07.240 Look, I think the difficulty of obviously telling your child 2:40:07.440 --> 2:40:09.920 no can it at first? You know, when you've got 2:40:09.959 --> 2:40:11.920 to raise your voice at them or you've got to 2:40:11.920 --> 2:40:12.720 get them into trouble. 2:40:13.320 --> 2:40:15.560 You might not feel good about it, but hey, you're 2:40:15.600 --> 2:40:17.200 doing it for their own good. You do it for 2:40:17.240 --> 2:40:19.600 their own benefit. Yeah, and it's about respect for others 2:40:19.640 --> 2:40:21.520 to absolutely what else do you have for us? All 2:40:21.520 --> 2:40:23.640 of us? So thanks for lending us Andrew Williams for 2:40:23.680 --> 2:40:27.440 a five minutes. He's good, isn't he? He's very good. 2:40:27.680 --> 2:40:30.000 Paul, some h is coming in the Consumer Protector, So 2:40:30.080 --> 2:40:32.160 I'm looking forward to have a chat to Paul and 2:40:32.400 --> 2:40:36.760 Mark guyer MG on the show today Origin Obviously tomorrow night, 2:40:36.879 --> 2:40:39.600 I've in sun Corpse Stadium, will be calling the match 2:40:39.680 --> 2:40:40.920 live here on six PR. 2:40:41.000 --> 2:40:44.480 Are you picking New Southwest? Yeah, Heart or Head? 2:40:45.360 --> 2:40:49.200 I think Head because Heart, actually that sounds odd. Heart 2:40:49.240 --> 2:40:51.960 wants to go for Queensland because they're in Brisbane and 2:40:52.040 --> 2:40:54.119 I was just there for Magic Ground and I kind 2:40:54.120 --> 2:40:56.120 of got caught up in the buzz of just how 2:40:56.200 --> 2:40:59.160 Queensland love rugby league so much. So I'd love to 2:40:59.200 --> 2:41:02.600 see Queensland and at Suncorp Stadium. On paper though, I 2:41:02.640 --> 2:41:05.800 think your South As could give them an absolute hiding handsing. 2:41:06.120 --> 2:41:08.280 Yeah, so you never know. That's a really bad origin, 2:41:08.360 --> 2:41:08.680 right queens. 2:41:08.720 --> 2:41:09.480 They always turn up. 2:41:09.560 --> 2:41:12.640 Yeah, that was true. Now the sideline behavior of parents 2:41:12.680 --> 2:41:14.680 in junior sport is it's still an issue. You have 2:41:14.760 --> 2:41:15.800 the final say on this, Oliver. 2:41:15.920 --> 2:41:18.359 But yes, is it twenty eight and the Noser sixteight. 2:41:18.240 --> 2:41:20.080 You're worried about it or mate? Yes at twenty eight 2:41:20.120 --> 2:41:22.800 and the Nosa sixteen. Thank you, Oliver. I'll be listening 2:41:22.800 --> 2:41:26.280 to I'll be listening this afternoon between one and five. 2:41:26.360 --> 2:41:29.760 It's four minutes to one. Back in a moment, Cole says, 2:41:29.800 --> 2:41:32.160 see at the any Notion Hotel Bowie love the Spies, 2:41:32.200 --> 2:41:33.920 Me too, Cole, thank you, mate. Call of the day 2:41:33.959 --> 2:41:37.920 today's Luise and her ADHD diagnosis. Lou thanks for ringing 2:41:38.240 --> 2:41:40.360 two tickets see the British Irish Lions versus the Western 2:41:40.400 --> 2:41:42.440 Forces and the twenty eighth of June. You set top 2:41:42.480 --> 2:41:45.040 the stadium your tickets and ticket Master they're selling fast. 2:41:45.400 --> 2:41:47.000 Olli Peterson up next with perth Lie