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Speaker 2: coming up in just a second, and I'm going to
Speaker 2: speak to Rida Safiotti in just the moment about violence
Speaker 2: at junior sport. And that's our yes no question today.
Speaker 2: I wanted to try and clear something up straight away
Speaker 2: if we could, right.
Speaker 4: Let's clear this up once and for all.
Speaker 2: So yes or no is the sideline behavior of parents
Speaker 2: in junior sports still an issue. So there are these
Speaker 2: allegations from a game of junior's football, junior soccer up
Speaker 2: in Mindari on the weekend that a forty six year
Speaker 2: old bloke from Whitford City Football Club allegedly has strangled
Speaker 2: a player from the Mindari Footy Club Soccer club. And
Speaker 2: I what are you seeing and hearing? Is the sideline
Speaker 2: behavior of parents in junior sports still an issue? And
Speaker 2: I'm not, sort of, I'm more interested in what you're
Speaker 2: actually seeing if you're a parent, or a grandparent or
Speaker 2: a cara of you know, a seven, eight, nine, ten
Speaker 2: through to sixteen year old who's playing netball in the winter,
Speaker 2: maybe playing footy, maybe playing rugby league, rugby union. What
Speaker 2: are you seeing on the sidelines? Is the sideline behavior
Speaker 2: of parents in junior sports still an issue? I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm probably more interested in what you're actually seeing rather
Speaker 2: than what you're reading in the paper or hearing on
Speaker 2: six PR or seeing on the TV. This is an
Speaker 2: extreme example when sports stories go from the back page
Speaker 2: to the front pages when they become news. It's a
Speaker 2: concern now readers. Afioti is the sports minister, but she's
Speaker 2: also a parent, and I'm going to talk to her
Speaker 2: in those two capacities a bit later.
Speaker 5: On.
Speaker 2: I think at least one of reader's kids play soccer too.
Speaker 2: So is the sideline behavior of parents in junior sports
Speaker 2: still an issue? What are you's seeing? What are you noticing?
Speaker 2: How is your sport handling it? All of the sports, well,
Speaker 2: most of the sports sign up to true Sport, which
Speaker 2: is the state government program. True Sport has an advisory
Speaker 2: committee and tries to get essentially he tries to get
Speaker 2: kids to enjoy sport, and they do look at the
Speaker 2: behavior of parents as well, and of coaches and officials
Speaker 2: and managers and the like. So what I try and
Speaker 2: clear this up today for you is the side line
Speaker 2: behavior of parents in junior sports still an issue? What
Speaker 2: are you seeing? What are you hearing? Yes or no?
Speaker 2: We'll keep a pole throughout the course of the show today.
Speaker 2: Murray Watt was in Perth last week, as you know,
Speaker 2: the Environment Minister, and he met with various people. We're
Speaker 2: trying to find out who he met with. We understand
Speaker 2: he has met with Roger Cook, the Premier, and this
Speaker 2: is over the extension of the Woodside project up at
Speaker 2: the bar up up at the Northwest Shelf. We're trying
Speaker 2: to find out who he actually met with. Now either
Speaker 2: through coincidence or fortuitously, a rock has emerged in the
Speaker 2: argument which may have some bearing on what the industry
Speaker 2: on the bar Up is doing to the rocks and
Speaker 2: potentially to the rock art. So I'm going to talk
Speaker 2: to Paul Garvey from The Australian in just a moment.
Speaker 2: A small bit of rock has just has fortuitously come
Speaker 2: to the surface and been revealed, and it seems to
Speaker 2: indicate that there has been damage to the rocks at
Speaker 2: the bar Up. So I'll get Paul Garby to explain
Speaker 2: that to you in just a moment. But want to
Speaker 2: try and clear this up from you today. Is a
Speaker 2: sideline behavior of parents in junior sports still an issue,
Speaker 2: got one, yes so far. This is the allegations that
Speaker 2: are forty six year old man who'll have his day
Speaker 2: in court strangled an eleven year old kid kids okay,
Speaker 2: didn't require medical treatment, but strangled a kid from Mindari
Speaker 2: on Sunday. Now both the both Football West Whitford City
Speaker 2: Football Club and Mindari have moved pretty quickly on this
Speaker 2: bloke and these are allegations. Only have his day in
Speaker 2: court in June. But yeah, what are you seeing or
Speaker 2: what's your understanding. Is sideline behavior by parents in junior's
Speaker 2: sport still an issue? You've got one yes and one though.
Speaker 2: We'll keep keep a tally of that poll as the
Speaker 2: show goes on today. Thanks for listening to him. You
Speaker 2: can call us zero. You can text to zero four seven,
Speaker 2: rip nine eighty two, or on this top you can
Speaker 2: call us. What is your sport doing to improve parent behavior?
Speaker 2: Is this a soccer issue? Is it a football issue?
Speaker 2: Or is what's footy doing? What's netball doing? Netball? It's
Speaker 2: pretty good, I reckon. Netball has a good code of behavior.
Speaker 2: You know, the players clap when the other team scores,
Speaker 2: scores a points, scores a goal. Netball, I reckons probably
Speaker 2: in pretty reasonable shape. But what are you seeing at football?
Speaker 2: At soccer, rugby league and rugby union? How the parents behaving?
Speaker 2: It is not always the coach having been a manager
Speaker 2: for seven or eight years. It's not always the coach
Speaker 2: or the assistant coaches. It can be the parents that
Speaker 2: behave badly. I'd love to hear from you one double
Speaker 2: three A two, Give me a call. What is your
Speaker 2: sport doing? What is your club doing? What are your
Speaker 2: kids doing? What is your coach doing? What is your
Speaker 2: manager doing and now are they signed up to the
Speaker 2: True Sport initiative? Fourteen minutes past nine, we will take
Speaker 2: a break. Thanks for listening. In today is yes, no question?
Speaker 2: Is the sideline behavior of parents in junior sports issue?
Speaker 2: What are you seeing? Is this is a yes no question?
Speaker 2: Appearent from Whitford City Football Club is allegedly grabb an
Speaker 2: eleven year old kid by the neck on Sunday And
Speaker 2: from what I can gather these I think these are
Speaker 2: called mini rus this competition, it's for under elevens and
Speaker 2: under twelves. So the bloke you know, these are allegations
Speaker 2: and this guy will have his day in court. Can't
Speaker 2: do that. I wouldn't have thought one double three eight
Speaker 2: Eddy two. Lots of texts coming in from our listeners.
Speaker 2: Anthony says it's absolutely a massive issue. Is at a
Speaker 2: game on the weekend and the local elite area of
Speaker 2: football club close to the city lady team manager abusing
Speaker 2: her own volunteer staff and was aggressive. Everyone's shocked and
Speaker 2: it basically set the tone for the game. Not a
Speaker 2: good look, says Anthony. This one here from Donna. Hello Donna.
Speaker 2: Donna says, we watch our grandchildren every week and they're
Speaker 2: still unacceptable behavior by parents and coaches, but it has
Speaker 2: improved since our kids played. I'm still yes, says Donna.
Speaker 2: Lots of correspondence coming in from our listeners today. So
Speaker 2: what are you seeing and hearing? If you're a parent
Speaker 2: of or a grandparent or a care of a kid
Speaker 2: one double three eight eight two. Scott's phoned in high Scott,
Speaker 2: How are you good? Mate? What have you seen?
Speaker 6: Disclaimer?
Speaker 7: I'm not concerning any behavior, but just a slightly different perspective.
Speaker 7: I remember seeing in a junior footy game years ago,
Speaker 7: years and years ago, a kid, fourteen year old kid
Speaker 7: my size, six foot ninety cakes just beating another kid's
Speaker 7: senseless that was much much smaller, And the father of
Speaker 7: the kid being beaten up actually ran onto the field
Speaker 7: hit the fourteen year old kid to get him off
Speaker 7: his son, purely from prospective, you know, for protection. So
Speaker 7: I kind of think, you know, I certainly don't think
Speaker 7: it's the right thing to do, but you can see,
Speaker 7: as a father myself, if you're seeing a kid getting
Speaker 7: beaten sense.
Speaker 6: You may react what sport mate?
Speaker 2: Ifl yeah, okay, all right, yeah, no, that's we'll find
Speaker 2: out what happened in this situation, and we don't know
Speaker 2: a lot about it with the Mindari Whitford's thing, Scott.
Speaker 2: But we'll know a little bit more, I think once
Speaker 2: it gets to court. Thanks for your call, mate, Thanks
Speaker 2: for chatting to us, Thanks for listening. Appreciated. One double
Speaker 2: three A two basketball Still seeing ugly parents in basketball?
Speaker 2: One double three two. I'll get to your correspondence today.
Speaker 2: So we're doing a yes no today. Is sideline behavior
Speaker 2: of parents in junior sport still an issue? What are
Speaker 2: you seeing? The yeses are nine and the nose are
Speaker 2: too well?
Speaker 8: Murray?
Speaker 2: What was in town last week? He's the environment minister.
Speaker 2: He didn't get around to chatting to anybody on six PR,
Speaker 2: but he spoke to some other media outlets and Murray,
Speaker 2: what is expected to make a decision, an actual decision,
Speaker 2: not delay the decision again on whether Woodside's lease will
Speaker 2: be extended. This is at the bar up in the
Speaker 2: northwest Shelby. It could happen this Saturday from what we're
Speaker 2: here seeing and reading now. I don't know if this
Speaker 2: is just a coincidence or for Tudor's timing, but a
Speaker 2: UWA professor side of the existence of a rock that's
Speaker 2: been sitting in a Melbourne office for some thirty years.
Speaker 2: The rock is from the bar Up. Paul Garvey as
Speaker 2: the story from the Australian joins us now goaday, Paul,
Speaker 2: good to talk to you. Yeah good, so few too
Speaker 2: tell us about this rock.
Speaker 9: Look, So to go back a step, basically, since since
Speaker 9: heavy industry opened up on the Barrock Peninsula or up
Speaker 9: around dam Here Karata Way, there's been ongoing debate about
Speaker 9: whether the emissions from that heavy industry was affecting all
Speaker 9: the rock art that is throughout that area, and so
Speaker 9: there's been a massive study going on for many years,
Speaker 9: funded by the state government and Woodside to investigate whether
Speaker 9: in fact those emissions are causing any damage or erosion
Speaker 9: to the rock cart and the rocks that host that
Speaker 9: rock art. The latest report from that came out late
Speaker 9: last Friday. The summary of that said, look, nothing to
Speaker 9: see here. We can see that there's been some damaged cause,
Speaker 9: but we're comfortable that that damage was caused before that
Speaker 9: industry as we know it today was in place, but
Speaker 9: it was other facilities. The power station was up there
Speaker 9: at that time that put out the pollution that caused
Speaker 9: this damage. So we're happy with what's going on here,
Speaker 9: and that was a really massive step for Murray Watt
Speaker 9: to have that in his hands, for the federal government
Speaker 9: to be able to go, Okay, we can go ahead
Speaker 9: and approve this project knowing that we've got the scientific
Speaker 9: all clear on the rock up That's where this UWA
Speaker 9: professor steps in and says, guys, I've got this rock here,
Speaker 9: which was actually taken from the borough in the early
Speaker 9: nineties and has sat in this Melbourn office ever since.
Speaker 9: So his argument is that if indeed it was emissions
Speaker 9: from this power plant that was in place before the
Speaker 9: current heavy industry came to the borough that caused the damage,
Speaker 9: then that rock would show that damage as well. And
Speaker 9: he's saying, look, we've studied this rock, we've looked at it.
Speaker 9: We can see that there's none of that damage that
Speaker 9: you're seeing up there today in this rock that was
Speaker 9: taken from the nineties. So his argument really is you
Speaker 9: can't believe that it was indeed those earlier missions that
Speaker 9: caused the damage and not the current facilities.
Speaker 2: So he's plenty of so by extension, Paul, he's calling
Speaker 2: that report that we saw last week that you and
Speaker 2: I read he's calling that into question.
Speaker 9: Absolutely yes, and he says that this rock here is
Speaker 9: the smoking gun that shows that some of the key
Speaker 9: conclusions from that scientific study are off the mark. And
Speaker 9: so every environmentalist, every activist who's been campaigning against this
Speaker 9: project is going to seize on this and say, look,
Speaker 9: Murray White is saying, you want to make a decision
Speaker 9: based on the best science, on the top research, you
Speaker 9: need to slow down and consider this alternative argument here.
Speaker 9: I mean, and the professor says, there's some incredible science
Speaker 9: that's been done by these researchers. There's a whole pile
Speaker 9: of data there, really important data. But you know that
Speaker 9: is only I guess as good as the interpretation in
Speaker 9: a lot of ways, and he's an alternative interpretation that really.
Speaker 10: Needs to be considered.
Speaker 2: And also I'm talking to Paul Garvey from the Australian Listeners. Paul,
Speaker 2: also in your article you raise what I think is
Speaker 2: an important point. This isn't This isn't Ben Smith from UWA.
Speaker 2: This is not his research. This has been done elsewhere,
Speaker 2: hasn't it.
Speaker 9: Yeah, he's had some associations, but I think it's a
Speaker 9: PhD student of his who's been working at the University
Speaker 9: of Bond in Germany. The rock itself was collected by
Speaker 9: Robert Bednrick, who is an absolute employent of that archaeological
Speaker 9: profession and the Northwest Shelf region Jugga Peninsula. He was
Speaker 9: sort of the godfather of archaeology in that area. He's
Speaker 9: the one who took this rock thirty years ago and
Speaker 9: had kept it meticulously in his office ever since. So
Speaker 9: this rock was yeah, assessed as part of that PhD
Speaker 9: in Germany.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, And interestingly, I mean it's a political
Speaker 2: issue as well, Paul, as you and I know that
Speaker 2: mister Albanisi and Murray wat said we'll make this decision
Speaker 2: based on science and on data, you know, and they've
Speaker 2: got that report it in their back pocket. So this
Speaker 2: is new news. And Ben Smith, we understand from UWA,
Speaker 2: he will be holding a press conference today, as will
Speaker 2: Roger Cook around about midday.
Speaker 9: Not together by any means, but yeah, they will be. Yeah,
Speaker 9: I've just seen they're an alert go out that Ben
Speaker 9: Smith will be out there.
Speaker 11: Speaking on this.
Speaker 9: I think the opponents to this gas project have jumped
Speaker 9: on this too, and we'll be trying to put this
Speaker 9: up in lights saying look, you know, this is new information.
Speaker 9: It needs to be taken into account. Murray, what though,
Speaker 9: has insisted basically since he was sworn in that this
Speaker 9: decision wouldn't be delayed any longer. Woodside has been in
Speaker 9: this process for six years. They want to see this
Speaker 9: thing go ahead. They want the certainty to to know
Speaker 9: that they can invest the pretty incredible sums of money
Speaker 9: they need to invest to keep this going. And you
Speaker 9: know for the energy grid as well. It's an important
Speaker 9: project to keep GUS going. There's lots of customers in
Speaker 9: Asia relying on it. But then there's a political headache
Speaker 9: too for the government here. You know, they need to
Speaker 9: make sure they can get decision out and in a
Speaker 9: way that's not going to come back and bite them
Speaker 9: in a lot of those inner city seats they now
Speaker 9: hold at the next election in three years time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. Thanks for chatting to us, Paul. I
Speaker 2: think I've been watching issue for some time as have you.
Speaker 2: What do you reckon Murray? What's going to do?
Speaker 9: I've got little doubt that he will approve it. I
Speaker 9: feel like he's sort of been out with an easy,
Speaker 9: sort of trouble shooter over the first time of government
Speaker 9: and when he was brought in, it seemed a pretty
Speaker 9: clear sign to me that the government wanted this to
Speaker 9: get approved. And I mean the economic implications of this
Speaker 9: project for the country are enormous. It's it's something that
Speaker 9: I think all tears of government want to see go
Speaker 9: ahead stout finding a way to I guess, sell that
Speaker 9: and get it in an appropriate kind of way and
Speaker 9: make sure that any conditions that need to be imposed
Speaker 9: will be imposed.
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I think there's an imperative from the government to see
Speaker 9: this sorted out and sorted out early so that any
Speaker 9: political skin that's lost from this will have healed, you know,
Speaker 9: by the time that next election rolls around.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Paul, thank you for talking to us.
Speaker 2: Good story. Thank You's my Paul Garvey from the Australian.
Speaker 2: So there's a bit of a Bundi has turned up.
Speaker 2: A rock has turned up from way back thirty years
Speaker 2: of age that seems to indicate that the report that
Speaker 2: was handled down last week that there has been damaged
Speaker 2: done from the emissions on the bar up and it's yeah,
Speaker 2: so I mean there's plenty of politics in this. But
Speaker 2: Professor Benjamin Smith has put out a statement and it's
Speaker 2: about the porosity or the poorous nature of this particular rock.
Speaker 2: So I'll bring parts of that to you. It's reasonably technical.
Speaker 2: But there as a rock turned up in the last week,
Speaker 2: the last week before Murray Watt's making his decisions. So
Speaker 2: it could be Fortudois from the activists and the protesters,
Speaker 2: or you know, maybe this is the timing of it all.
Speaker 2: We are putting quiries into the Chamber of Commerce and
Speaker 2: Industry and the chains of Reminds and the industry about
Speaker 2: did they meet with Murray what last week? We get
Speaker 2: to hear back. Still, we get to hear back from
Speaker 2: Murray Watt as well while we're While we're at it,
Speaker 2: go and talk to readA Saffiotti in just a moment.
Speaker 2: She's the sports minister. She's also a junior sport parent.
Speaker 2: I think she might even be a soccer parent about
Speaker 2: the allegations around what we heard on the soccer incident
Speaker 2: from the weekend from Sunday up in Mindari, stay listening.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to talk to Rita Safioty in just a moment.
Speaker 2: She is the Minister for Sport and Recreation in in Wa,
Speaker 2: but she's importantly I'm going to talk to her capacity
Speaker 2: as the mum of junior sports kids. I wonder what
Speaker 2: she's seeing. We're asking the question today is a sideline
Speaker 2: behavior of parents in junior sports still an issue? The
Speaker 2: yes is are ten and the nose of four. Thank
Speaker 2: you for your correspondence or get as much of that
Speaker 2: published and broadcast as humanly possible. Gid A Steve, I
Speaker 2: am yeah, good mate. You're a ex LLA cross player,
Speaker 2: but you've been involved in another sport.
Speaker 14: Yeah, obviously played bla cross quade, an aggressive sport. Coached
Speaker 14: and managed junior football and soccer. A son played two
Speaker 14: years of soccer, and I found that the parents were
Speaker 14: the most aggressive in that form of the sport, mainly
Speaker 14: because of the frustration I can see in low scoring
Speaker 14: and obviously lack of physical contact. It's allowed, and when
Speaker 14: there was physical contact the parents used to get aggressed.
Speaker 2: So might be a soccer thing, and these allegations will
Speaker 2: be heard in court. You might be a soccer thing, mate,
Speaker 2: you reckon, But with our parent behavior, yeah, I.
Speaker 14: Actually didn't notice it a lot more and the son
Speaker 14: played a lot of junior sport and I didn't all
Speaker 14: my sons have. I noticed that the soccer aggression from
Speaker 14: the parents was the worst. Lot in the other sports,
Speaker 14: the aggression was towards the referee, which it's trying to stop.
Speaker 14: I mean, I actually wore a high vis vest to
Speaker 14: control crowds in soccer, so that made sure that parents
Speaker 14: kept the aggression to a lower level.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, thanks for chating to Steve.
Speaker 14: No problem at all, his mate.
Speaker 2: So is a sideline behavior of parents in junior sports
Speaker 2: still an issue? So this is an extreme example, isn't
Speaker 2: it from what we heard on Sunday? And then the
Speaker 2: allegation is a forty six year old man from Whitford's
Speaker 2: football club got his hands onto the neck of an
Speaker 2: eleven year old player from Mindari Rita Safiotti is the
Speaker 2: sports minister in wah also the mum of some kids
Speaker 2: who played junior sport. Hi readA thanks your time, Hi,
Speaker 2: So how are you going good? Thanks? Are you worried
Speaker 2: about this or do you think this is an extreme
Speaker 2: and isolated incident.
Speaker 15: Yeah, I think this is an extreme incident. I don't
Speaker 15: say I've never seen anything like it in my many
Speaker 15: watching of many games on the sidelines, So I think
Speaker 15: this is an extreme incident. But it goes back to
Speaker 15: the point of respect and being there to encourage your
Speaker 15: kids and not to take it as seriously as some do,
Speaker 15: which and we've seen it, some parents take it very seriously.
Speaker 2: Are your kids soccer kids?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 15: Yeah, all three play soccer and there's an netball as well,
Speaker 15: so so what they will play soccer and one plays
Speaker 15: netball as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. Do you see any difference in the
Speaker 2: culture of the and the behavior of parents between netball
Speaker 2: and soccer rita.
Speaker 15: Yeah, I think the netball parents.
Speaker 16: Are a bit quieter.
Speaker 15: I'd say that soccer parents polly a little bit louder,
Speaker 15: But again it just varies depending on the teams, and
Speaker 15: it depends, I think of the divisions that you're playing
Speaker 15: and how seriously people are taking it.
Speaker 16: But look, it is, it is varied.
Speaker 15: I went to an interschool game actually the other day
Speaker 15: and there was a parent just abusing the lines but
Speaker 15: just constantly until they were pulled up. So it does vary,
Speaker 15: it does very according to the games.
Speaker 17: But look, I.
Speaker 15: Think in all of this, you know, kids are out there,
Speaker 15: they're trying their best, and you can see it when
Speaker 15: there's too much aggression. It sometimes really turns them off
Speaker 15: and they don't want to code back. Whether it's the
Speaker 15: you know, it's the kid's parents or other kids, you know,
Speaker 15: they get turned off. And and the other ish of
Speaker 15: course is volunteers and alignsmen and refs and so forth.
Speaker 15: You know, you don't want we need to get more
Speaker 15: kids volunteering and or you know being refs or linesmen
Speaker 15: and all you know, coaches and so forth. So having
Speaker 15: this abusive type of language all our behavior does turn
Speaker 15: I think a lot of kids off.
Speaker 2: In I don't know if you're across this yet, reader,
Speaker 2: and you know you've had your feet under the under
Speaker 2: the sports desk for a while now, But there's a
Speaker 2: crew at Sports West called True Sport and they try
Speaker 2: to look after the behavior of parents. And I would
Speaker 2: broadly think that True Sports had a pretty good impact,
Speaker 2: you know, through through all the sports that the state
Speaker 2: government funds. So I would think the incidents are becoming less.
Speaker 2: But you know, it's one thing for coaches and managers
Speaker 2: and players to be told, But then your parents are
Speaker 2: a different cohort, aren't they, And they do get they
Speaker 2: do get pretty side up.
Speaker 15: Yeah, and you're right. I have been briefed on True
Speaker 15: Sport and last week I entered a Sports West event
Speaker 15: where they acknowledge the role of True Sport in supporting
Speaker 15: volunteers in particular with mental health challenges, but more generally
Speaker 15: about sideline behavior. So there is some really positive messaging
Speaker 15: coming out from that program and also ways for clubs
Speaker 15: to handle these incidents too. So it's an excellent program
Speaker 15: which I've been briefed on and I've seen it already
Speaker 15: in relation to the messaging on the sideline that you
Speaker 15: see every week at the different competitions. So I think
Speaker 15: it is improving and it's more isolated, but suddenly we
Speaker 15: need to all work on. And then, as I said,
Speaker 15: in particular, because it's the kids and you want them
Speaker 15: to want to you know, you want them to want
Speaker 15: to stay out there playing, and as I said, sometimes
Speaker 15: you can see it where they just get turned off
Speaker 15: because of some of that sideline behavior. You want your
Speaker 15: kids to be able to to pate in a safe
Speaker 15: environment and you want't to enjoy it too, And so
Speaker 15: that's why these types of incidents, like I said, they
Speaker 15: are isolated, but we don't want to see these types
Speaker 15: of incidents on the sideline for any game I'm in
Speaker 15: any competition.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, while I've got you, Okay, will the
Speaker 2: will the Thornleigh Coburn rail link be open on schedule?
Speaker 2: I think during the Monday Dune the ninth. Is that
Speaker 2: going to happen?
Speaker 15: Rita, Yes, that's right, yep.
Speaker 2: So that's all that's all planned and good to go.
Speaker 15: Yeah, we've been doing extensive driver training, so it's all
Speaker 15: ready to go. The stations are ready to go, and
Speaker 15: so that will commence. I think our community open day
Speaker 15: is the June the eighth, the Sunday to June the eighth,
Speaker 15: and during the ninety it opens for normal services.
Speaker 2: And are you I know the PTA are aware because
Speaker 2: we spoke to a bloke who lives in Dagley shyesterday
Speaker 2: on the show and he's worried about train line squeal
Speaker 2: in Daglish. Come across your desk.
Speaker 15: Yes it has, and so I think they did. Note
Speaker 15: we have been investing into trying to reduce some of
Speaker 15: that train noise, in particular some treatments on the tracks
Speaker 15: to reduce that train noise. I think the community is
Speaker 15: I supposed divided and whether they want to consider noise wars.
Speaker 15: But we've done some testing and we believe that without
Speaker 15: further work that's been undertaken, it's now below some of
Speaker 15: the limits that have been sent in relation to noise noise.
Speaker 15: So we have done some work working with the community
Speaker 15: to try and reduce that noise on the turnback.
Speaker 2: And just finally, I know you're a Frio fan and
Speaker 2: one of the great Prio players. Anthony Grove played two
Speaker 2: hundred games for Freer number fourteen. He's also the Combat
Speaker 2: Sports Commissioner, his heads up the Combat Sports Commissioner have
Speaker 2: had a chat to Groves yet about the ban Knuckle Championships.
Speaker 2: Where are you on that?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 15: I did. Actually, both him and Maturer came in to
Speaker 15: brief me about the sport and in particular what they've
Speaker 15: been doing in relation to the regulation of that sport.
Speaker 16: So in relation to that sport that was put.
Speaker 15: Forward as in relations to that sport, there were some
Speaker 15: regulatory changes that were made that were signed off just
Speaker 15: before the last election, and that regulatory change was based
Speaker 15: on advice from the Combat Sports Commission saying that with
Speaker 15: extra precautions, they believe that bear knuckle boxing could have
Speaker 15: occurred in the state. So those regulations were changed. And
Speaker 15: now there's been an event that's come forward, So the
Speaker 15: Combat Sports Commission is going through that proposed event and
Speaker 15: in particular looking at what additional regulations could be put
Speaker 15: in place, in particular the experience of the boxes. The
Speaker 15: other point being the medical practitioners that need to be
Speaker 15: on hand, So they're working through that with this proposed event.
Speaker 2: It's not far away if it does happen when event
Speaker 2: organizers wanted to happen, So decision soon, I guess.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 15: So the combat that's in front of the Combat Sports Commission.
Speaker 15: I think they've put forward a proposal, but as I said,
Speaker 15: there's a strong regulatory environment that they're put in place
Speaker 15: for this, in particular the levels of experience of the
Speaker 15: of the boxes, the medical practitioners that need to be
Speaker 15: on hand. So they're working through what safeguards and mechanisms
Speaker 15: can be put in place to make sure it can
Speaker 15: be done as safe as possible.
Speaker 2: Are you the ultimate arbiter on this reta.
Speaker 15: It's actually the Combat Sports Commission, who, as I said,
Speaker 15: the regulations have been changed.
Speaker 18: To allow it.
Speaker 15: So that was probably the key thing that happened. So
Speaker 15: the regulatory, the regulations changed that allowed the sport to
Speaker 15: be conducted in Wa. But then for an event, the
Speaker 15: Combats Sports Commission has to fantion that event and that's
Speaker 15: what's been worked through at the moment.
Speaker 2: All righty, and then you I think you meant when
Speaker 2: you talked about last week you mentioned potential for a
Speaker 2: veto from yourself. Do you think you need to.
Speaker 15: Exercise that not at this stage, As I said, the
Speaker 15: Combat Sports Commission have gone through and identified a number
Speaker 15: of safeguards and safeguards and mechanisms to make it as
Speaker 15: safe as possible. And they've been working through that and
Speaker 15: they seem.
Speaker 10: Very very rigorous.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, thank you for your time, Thanks for
Speaker 2: talking to our listeners.
Speaker 15: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Rita Safioti, Estate's Minister for Sport and Recreation. So that
Speaker 2: doesn't see bad behavior, her three kids play soccer, doesn't
Speaker 2: see it where she is, but did see it and
Speaker 2: into school. You know, some people are yelling at alignsment
Speaker 2: wonderble three A two. Is the sideline behavior of parents
Speaker 2: in junior sports still an issue? That's O yes, no question.
Speaker 2: I'll bring you up to date with that in just
Speaker 2: a moment. The Thornleigh Coburn Link will open on Monday
Speaker 2: during the ninth as promised for those people who'd send
Speaker 2: in that information. And looks like they're trying to trying
Speaker 2: to address always down at Daglish Siding. We talked about
Speaker 2: this yesterday on the show. There's still a thousand trains
Speaker 2: going in and out of the place each and every week.
Speaker 2: It's a lot, isn't it. We'll come back into some moment.
Speaker 2: Thanks for your thoughts. You can SMS is zero four
Speaker 2: eight seven triple nine A Dady two. You can SEMs
Speaker 2: SMSs on that number. You can call us one double
Speaker 2: three a Daddy two. Back in a moment, Jamie has
Speaker 2: sented an SMS which is funny. The rock, the rock
Speaker 2: that has fortuitously surfaced as we lead in going to
Speaker 2: the decision by Murray Watt on the Woodside extension of
Speaker 2: their lease and their and their contract, and I mentioned
Speaker 2: that it's to do with the that the rock is porous.
Speaker 2: The rock that's been in this office is porous, and
Speaker 2: Jamie says, I wonder where he's been keeping that rock.
Speaker 2: You said it's poor ass. Thanks Jamie. If you've done
Speaker 2: that deliberately, it's funny. If you've misspelled it, it's not
Speaker 2: as funny, but thanks. Bev says, good morning, Simon. Yet Abev,
Speaker 2: I think sideline behavior at sport is still a problem.
Speaker 2: So we'll put you in the Yes is good show.
Speaker 2: Thanks Bev. Good on you, one double three, eight to
Speaker 2: eighty two. Bernie says, I hear even Anthony Albanize is
Speaker 2: pumping for gas something about firming capacity. What does that mean, Bernie.
Speaker 2: I think he is saying that we are still going
Speaker 2: to need gas providing capacity in our energy provision until
Speaker 2: we trance make the transition to renewables. I think that's
Speaker 2: what that means, Bernie. I noticed that this morning being
Speaker 2: used in the news. Alan reckons that there's some hypocrisy
Speaker 2: here from Rita Safiotti. We're talking about violence in sports
Speaker 2: and parent behavior, but we are promoting UFC and yeah,
Speaker 2: and the Bare Knuckle Championship going to come here, So
Speaker 2: that's interesting. So it looks sounds like you're going to
Speaker 2: leave the decision to the sports Commission, the Combat Sports Commission,
Speaker 2: which is Anthony Grover and friends. Is the sideline. Behavior
Speaker 2: of parents in junior sports still an issue. The yes
Speaker 2: is a fifteen of the nose a seven, although a
Speaker 2: lot of people do note that it's probably getting better.
Speaker 2: And Lisa, Lisa, when my kids played oz Kick, we
Speaker 2: had a parent meeting before the season started. Yes, Lisa,
Speaker 2: I know we did that in the district where my
Speaker 2: young fellow played footy at Clamont's in the Clamont district.
Speaker 2: So yeah, we had at the Clamont Footy Club. Thanks
Speaker 2: for your thoughts today. I'll keep reading your comments. This
Speaker 2: one from Body Simon. In the Peel District Junior AFL competition,
Speaker 2: if adults cause incidents or abuse at the games, the
Speaker 2: parent of that team will lose E points, which goes
Speaker 2: to the latter system, which could cause that team to
Speaker 2: miss finals if they have too many E points. Also,
Speaker 2: the club will be fine x amount. Since it's been
Speaker 2: in place, there is minimal poor behavior from parents. Thanks Body, Yeah,
Speaker 2: the E point, we saw the environment point. I'm aware
Speaker 2: of that. That's how footy it tries to address bad
Speaker 2: behavior by parents, coaches, managers, assistant coaches, and the like.
Speaker 2: Thank you mate, good correspondence. Peter's phoned in.
Speaker 19: Hi, peterh goot it, Simon. I just wanted to talk
Speaker 19: about the rock card up there and the weather effect
Speaker 19: on it. The weather up there's I worked up there
Speaker 19: for four and a half years in the eighties, and
Speaker 19: one month there we had forty one degrees in a row.
Speaker 19: I went through a couple of cyclones up there. One
Speaker 19: of them was two hundred and fifteen k's an hour.
Speaker 19: I can't understand how it's still visible, which is weathering.
Speaker 19: It's got to have an effect. It's extreme weather up there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so, mate, Yeah, absolutely right. And that's
Speaker 2: was the two hundred and fifteen k cyclone. Was that, Bobby,
Speaker 2: I think it was.
Speaker 19: I can't remember the name of it, Yeah, but it was.
Speaker 19: It was pretty bad. Yeah, I couldn't stand up in it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what it was.
Speaker 19: It was out there.
Speaker 2: It was Friday, I think, Bobby was the nineties. I
Speaker 2: think you were there in the eighties, Peter, Thank you
Speaker 2: and Peter. I just looked the report that's coming out
Speaker 2: from Ben Smith. Benjamin Smith is at UWA. He speaks
Speaker 2: very specifically about the still pollution levels of sophur diok
Speaker 2: side and nicos oxide from the nearby industry. So he
Speaker 2: he's going really hard on the emissions from the from
Speaker 2: the industry up there, which is different to what you're saying.
Speaker 2: Appreciate your comments, Peter, Thank you, Okay, thanks so you mate,
Speaker 2: Peter from who worked at the bar Up in the
Speaker 2: in the nineteen eighties one double three a eighty two.
Speaker 2: So interesting that a UWA academic is getting involved in
Speaker 2: the politics of this so long story short. The government
Speaker 2: have had a long running report, it's called the m
Speaker 2: R a MP Report. I'll try and find out what
Speaker 2: that stands for, but that that report has just has
Speaker 2: basically said, look, the damage to the rocks and the
Speaker 2: rock art on the bar Up Peninsula predated. What's the
Speaker 2: industry that's there now. He came from an old an
Speaker 2: old power plant that was up there in I think
Speaker 2: it's in the nineteen seventies. So this this academic is
Speaker 2: coming out and has gone the report the mirror JUGA
Speaker 2: Rock Art Monitoring Program Report. Thank you team.
Speaker 20: So.
Speaker 2: Professor Smith Ben Smith has used one of his PhD
Speaker 2: students to study a rock that was taken from the
Speaker 2: bar Up thirty years ago and he's saying, because it's
Speaker 2: because of its how, it's because of its condition. The
Speaker 2: damage you're seeing to the current rock on the bar
Speaker 2: up is from industry softodox side of nier soxside. Interesting timing,
Speaker 2: Hey one double three A two. He's out today at
Speaker 2: midday making a statement, as is Roger Cook at a
Speaker 2: separate press conference, and we do believe that's around the
Speaker 2: Woodside project extension as well or the lease extension. Thanks
Speaker 2: for listening in today. Thanks for your correspondence and your thoughts.
Speaker 2: Lou says, I've been involved in AFL community umpiring for
Speaker 2: twenty seven years. A dog's sadden the postgame, my car
Speaker 2: eggs several times, and endless threats of my life, the
Speaker 2: things we do for the love of a sport. Thanks Lou,
Speaker 2: Keep up the good.
Speaker 10: Lo is that.
Speaker 2: Bigfooty grown up adult footy or is that junior footy?
Speaker 2: I'd imagine that's a grown up footy, Kylie says, Happy Tuesday, Simon.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Kylie. I hope the sports parents don't watch
Speaker 2: the likes of Minister Carey playing the man in Parliament.
Speaker 2: Thank you. This one here from Bear of a different
Speaker 2: BEV doesn't matter how much reta sugar coats. The issue
Speaker 2: rebare knuckle fighting. The government is saying it's okay to fight.
Speaker 2: Money talks, says BEV. And this story was fleshed out
Speaker 2: comprehensively by Jamie Burnett on the Weekends when he spotted
Speaker 2: that the legislation has been changed by David Templeman that
Speaker 2: the Combat Sports Commission should canvas bear knuckled fighting and
Speaker 2: the beer knuckle Fighting Championships, which is still planned to
Speaker 2: come to Perth Groves. If you're listening, Anthony Grover, good lad, Anthony,
Speaker 2: good luck with the decision. It's a combat sport and
Speaker 2: they're working through it as we as we speak. Happy
Speaker 2: to hear from you. One double three eight two, Hello Tony.
Speaker 2: How are you basketball?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Well, at the moment, I've thought you under seventeens girls
Speaker 6: big grade and the parents are fine, I mean. But
Speaker 6: one of the things that I found really interesting, and
Speaker 6: this is one thing that parents need to understand, and
Speaker 6: I talked to myself about this as well, is there
Speaker 6: a lot of a lot of us parents think that
Speaker 6: our kid is much better than they actually are. Right, bro,
Speaker 6: how do you tell a parent the reason why your
Speaker 6: kid is on the sideline because it probably should take
Speaker 6: up chess, do you know what I mean? You can't
Speaker 6: be doing that. But this is where the this is
Speaker 6: where the frustration is with parents, a lot of parents,
Speaker 6: especially in my in my sport. Ye, it's like wise
Speaker 6: on a bench is because yeah, not good enough. Yeah,
Speaker 6: because they paid the fees the same fees, especially for
Speaker 6: domestic they want to get equal amounts. And there's a
Speaker 6: lot of things, yeah, fires and all that.
Speaker 2: It's a hard one, isn't it, Tony. I know I
Speaker 2: worked with Ron Alexander for many years at sport and
Speaker 2: wreck and Ron, despite being a big, tough old ruckman,
Speaker 2: he was very strong and all kids you get equal
Speaker 2: game time and rotated through positions because that's why. That
Speaker 2: leads to enjoyment and it leads to them wanting to
Speaker 2: stay in the sport for longer. But I suppose you
Speaker 2: want to try and win too, don't you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, in domestically, domestically, I personally believe it needs to
Speaker 6: be equal amounts. When you get to the higher levels,
Speaker 6: then it's on merit, on on your ability. But in
Speaker 6: domestically everybody should be having equal.
Speaker 2: Amounts, all right, mate, Yeah, thanks Tony. Good to hear
Speaker 2: from it. In the running for a Caller of the
Speaker 2: Day today coming up after ten o'clock today, Parking, we've
Speaker 2: moved Parky's time. Dave Parkinson will join us after ten
Speaker 2: o'clock today. The veteran copper True Detective is the name
Speaker 2: of the segment. Did you know I didn't know this?
Speaker 2: Did you know? There was an assassination plot against Simon Crean.
Speaker 2: And Simon Crean was the opposition leader, leader of the
Speaker 2: Labor Party, and this was in Lake Grace and Parky
Speaker 2: was there. Parky again put his life on the line,
Speaker 2: this time for Simon Crean. And he's got so many
Speaker 2: stories as any Parky. But you'll join us out of
Speaker 2: ten o'clock today. An assassination plot against Simon Crean, the
Speaker 2: Labor leader back in the day. Stay listening. It is
Speaker 2: five and a half minutes to ten. I just had
Speaker 2: a notification from one of our listeners that the Association
Speaker 2: of Mining and Exploration Companies, the CEO, Warren Pierce, head
Speaker 2: of National Policy, Neil van Drunen, met with Murray Watt
Speaker 2: last week. That's good to know. Thank you for that, correspondent. So,
Speaker 2: Warren Warren Pierce and Neil van Drunen from the Association
Speaker 2: of Mining Exploration Companies met with Murray Watt last week.
Speaker 2: Thanks for your corresponds today, Steve from Dart says Simon.
Speaker 2: I've umpired for nearly forty years and the cult of
Speaker 2: these days with parents has improved significantly. It is only
Speaker 2: isolated incidence like this that bring it to attention the
Speaker 2: fact that it's only point one percent of idiots that
Speaker 2: spoil it for the ninety nine point nine percent of
Speaker 2: people who do behave Steve from Darts, Thanks Steve, Thanks
Speaker 2: for your thoughts, Mate, appreciate you calling back. And we
Speaker 2: just heard back from the Chamber of Commerce and Industry
Speaker 2: the CCI. They've confirmed they met with Murray Wat too,
Speaker 2: So AMEC and CCI did meet with Murray what last week?
Speaker 2: So thanks for your thoughts. Is the sideline of behavior
Speaker 2: of parents and junior sports still an issue? The yes
Speaker 2: is are fifteen The NOS ate some nice correspondents coming
Speaker 2: in on this as well, and sent me a nice
Speaker 2: message about women's footy and I'm just trying to find it. Basically,
Speaker 2: Ann said the behavior is here, he is found it.
Speaker 2: Definitely no problems with the girls AFL games. I attend,
Speaker 2: wonderful sportsmanship from all sides, Thank you and appreciate that
Speaker 2: and a lot of correspondence coming in. It's Onny from
Speaker 2: valdivis No, there is no issue. I coach under seventeen
Speaker 2: girls basketball team. If there's any inappropriate behavior by a parent,
Speaker 2: myself and or team manager pulls them aside and have
Speaker 2: a chap. Normally everyone behaves themselves, So maybe this is
Speaker 2: an extreme act. This bloke will have his day in court.
Speaker 2: So Whitford's Junior Football Club Soccer Club and Mindari playing
Speaker 2: up in Mindari on Sunday and the bloke is taken
Speaker 2: upon himself allegedly to wrap his hands around eleven year
Speaker 2: old player's neck. From Mindari Soccer has reacted pretty quickly
Speaker 2: on this one. Both the clubs have locill have his
Speaker 2: day in court on June sixth. Thanks for listening him.
Speaker 2: Dave Parkinson with True Detective after ten o'clock. How good.
Speaker 1: On Perth six PR. This is Perth Today with Simon Beaumont.
Speaker 2: Running a poll today. Do in your opinion yes or no?
Speaker 2: What are you seeing a junior sport? Is parent behavior
Speaker 2: on the song of line is still an issue and
Speaker 2: the yes is just marginally habit at this stage. I'll
Speaker 2: bring you that tally as the As the show winds on,
Speaker 2: Jane has a positive shout out to Western Power staff.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Jane. You worked over twelve hours from seven
Speaker 2: thirty last night till seven thirty this morning working on
Speaker 2: a power line near Mawson Park, Hillary's two hundred and
Speaker 2: eighty homes without power overnight. World on Western Power says Jane,
Speaker 2: and Aileen says regarding the Barot Peninsula, the degradation monitoring
Speaker 2: study seemed to be in their relatively early stages, and
Speaker 2: it seems impossible that, based on current information, of a
Speaker 2: decision that makes everyone happy, none of us know the
Speaker 2: correct answer, so it seems likely the decision will reflect
Speaker 2: the greatest good for the greatest number. Thank you, Aileen,
Speaker 2: you are you remain the voice of reason, Sideline behavior
Speaker 2: of parents and junior sports to an issue that yeses
Speaker 2: are seventeen and the nose are nine. Let's do this.
Speaker 1: Detectives with Dave Parkinson.
Speaker 21: Yeah.
Speaker 2: One of our favorite and very popular segments on Perth
Speaker 2: Today is True Detective and Dave Parkinson joins us. Now
Speaker 2: former everything in the w a police service. God they
Speaker 2: Parky Simon, good, Thank you for people who haven't heard
Speaker 2: the segment we covered the biggest story in the world,
Speaker 2: which was the suicide Sect, the Japanese suicide Sect operating
Speaker 2: in regional w A. We covered that. We've covered all
Speaker 2: sorts of TIBs, go lightly, the Confederate Action Party in Geraldton,
Speaker 2: and sometimes Parky, after I talk to you, I get
Speaker 2: a call from police media.
Speaker 11: Really yeah, really really good, good better otherwise.
Speaker 2: Which means it's good that they're listening. But sometimes we
Speaker 2: get we get very close to sensitive topics. I guess
Speaker 2: is my is my point. I had no idea about
Speaker 2: this one, mate. This is the you found yourself in
Speaker 2: the mid In a over a four year period, the
Speaker 2: farmers of Wa were very, very very unhappy. They were
Speaker 2: called the Rural Action Movement nineteen ninety to nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 2: What were they unhappy about?
Speaker 11: Party here, Simon, and basically back in that time, the
Speaker 11: banks were being what banks normally are, and I'm too
Speaker 11: much of a gentleman to suggest what they are and
Speaker 11: how they operate, and the rural industry across Western Australia,
Speaker 11: particularly in the wheat belt regions that we're going through
Speaker 11: tremendous hardship. The law abiding citizens there, the wheat prices
Speaker 11: were down, the fertilizer costs were exorbitant. Rail infrastructure was
Speaker 11: pretty average, but the costs were there, and then the
Speaker 11: lack of government support regarding costs was pretty horrendous and
Speaker 11: at that time, and a number of the big banks
Speaker 11: were fore closing on farm farming mortgages and and really
Speaker 11: said it's like the old John Wayne Westerns where the
Speaker 11: baddies come in and take over a farm and by
Speaker 11: the next one and whatever. And it had an incredible
Speaker 11: impact right across regional Western Australia. Particularly something that is
Speaker 11: still happening today sadly is the suicide right you know,
Speaker 11: of farmers their families and then obviously later on it's
Speaker 11: well documented, well documented with with youth suicide. So it
Speaker 11: was a really really hard time and.
Speaker 2: So sorry to go to your unit got involved. There
Speaker 2: were death threats to politicians and people were actually targeting
Speaker 2: physically targeting the bank buildings.
Speaker 11: Well they we're right through. It would be very interesting again,
Speaker 11: we're there hijacking you show. You know, some of the
Speaker 11: people in Rualdubra are probably listening and they can they
Speaker 11: would definitely remember this awful period of time. One of
Speaker 11: the main tactics was super gluin the bank locks, you know,
Speaker 11: and then other other damage that you know, perhaps shouldn't
Speaker 11: go into now that you've reminded me of sensitivity.
Speaker 2: But I just keep doing it your way, made by way.
Speaker 11: I mean, I've got they've got my number, and they
Speaker 11: got my number, and they know the muroral officers in
Speaker 11: Carlisle Heights that can come in anytime. But it was,
Speaker 11: it really was a tragic time. And I don't want
Speaker 11: to make light of it because I mean, I've jumped
Speaker 11: forward a bit since this, Uh, these events that happened.
Speaker 11: You know, we've got the r U Okay, we've got
Speaker 11: the blue trees and I've just come back from mind
Speaker 11: him up and they're everywhere down there would suggest there's
Speaker 11: still a problem. So what happens. We had a very
Speaker 11: volatile time, and particularly the threats of politicians that came
Speaker 11: under our Bailey Wick and anyhow, one particular incident that
Speaker 11: really worried us was part of the Malawa to Jornton railway.
Speaker 11: The line was blown up. Obviously, the decent farming people
Speaker 11: who've got so many friends out there, they wouldn't contemplate that.
Speaker 11: But there were some radical people on the outside, trying
Speaker 11: to ingratiate themselves in for their own own means. And
Speaker 11: we've already discussed Tims go lightly and others in the
Speaker 11: rural and the competat party. So it was a very
Speaker 11: very very tense time for everyone, and it was a
Speaker 11: sad time because a lot of people did take their
Speaker 11: lives and they just felt they had nowhere to go.
Speaker 2: I can't remember that story, bag, Yeah they did.
Speaker 11: Yeah, they'd be part of between Muliva and Jeralton, there
Speaker 11: was about four lengths of role got blown up and
Speaker 11: obviously no one's taken responsibility for that. Obviously, as I said,
Speaker 11: a lot of my friends out in the country wouldn't
Speaker 11: even contemplate that. They, you know, the decent, law abiding people.
Speaker 11: Then having said that, yeah.
Speaker 2: The next chapter in all this, you have done dignitary
Speaker 2: protection at different times your unit. I'm talking to Dave
Speaker 2: partners and folks. If you don't recognize the voice. So
Speaker 2: Simon Crane is coming to Late Grace.
Speaker 11: Yes, and what happened. We got a very very credible
Speaker 11: threat that his life was at risk. Now I cannot
Speaker 11: remember why. I don't think his portfolio if I remember correctly,
Speaker 11: and perhaps Sean could google it or whatever. I thought.
Speaker 11: He was Industrial Relations minister at the time. It could
Speaker 11: be wrong, but anyhow, he was coming to Late Grace
Speaker 11: and through obviously place and others in the community, concerned citizens.
Speaker 11: They said he better not turn up because we've got
Speaker 11: a we have a couple of people here who are
Speaker 11: going to take his life. It was as simple as that,
Speaker 11: which was very radical in those days. So anyhow, so
Speaker 11: what happened. I was given the task of going and
Speaker 11: seeing Simon Crean, which I did when he loved in Perth,
Speaker 11: and I said, look, it's probably not a good idea
Speaker 11: to go down there, and basically he said, well, no,
Speaker 11: I'm going. So I got a seat on the government
Speaker 11: plane and away we went. And what I was very
Speaker 11: concerned about is that this threat, you know, having come
Speaker 11: from a farming background myself and stations and whatever. You know,
Speaker 11: those guys down there don't have little twenty twos of
Speaker 11: air rifles, you know for a vermin control. They have
Speaker 11: very high powered firearms. And I was very concerned because
Speaker 11: those who know, like Grace, the airport has it's near
Speaker 11: strips surrounded by saltbush and lake. And yeah, so when
Speaker 11: we were in the air I sort of breeched everyone
Speaker 11: and tried to convince him it's probably not a good idea,
Speaker 11: and it's really that I get concerned to that degree,
Speaker 11: but I had visions of someone trying to take us
Speaker 11: out as we've come in to land, which was a
Speaker 11: huge concern. And then obviously the venue that we went to,
Speaker 11: which is the Late Gray Sports Ground, was just all open,
Speaker 11: and I think all I had was the two local
Speaker 11: coppers there to give me a bit of a hand,
Speaker 11: and it was just a matter of doing what we
Speaker 11: do best, talking, engaging and sort of keeping the minister
Speaker 11: fairly fairly close, and thankfully it went without a hitch.
Speaker 2: So it's my understanding that you got him off the
Speaker 2: plane and you actually put yourself between him and potentially
Speaker 2: where a shooter could be.
Speaker 11: Yes, yeah, that was that was my role. I mean,
Speaker 11: I always hated the nickname bullet catcher, but myself and
Speaker 11: my crew in the dignity protection area, that's basically what
Speaker 11: we were. Things weren't really bad. I mean, I'm trying
Speaker 11: not to make light of it. It was a lot,
Speaker 11: you know, we were very capable, very capable people that
Speaker 11: you know, we weren't just full of catchers. We could
Speaker 11: take out a threat as well. But it was it's
Speaker 11: very concerning. It was a lot of open ground and
Speaker 11: and and the anger the it was, it was quite palatable,
Speaker 11: that palpable, the anger there amongst the farmers, and and
Speaker 11: I think Cream and our in our team sort of
Speaker 11: got the message that that, you know, something needs to
Speaker 11: be done. Anyhow, it was it was, it was a
Speaker 11: income threat. And anyhow we got back to Perth and
Speaker 11: actually we got on when we were on the plane
Speaker 11: and we got about one hundred ks or so, we
Speaker 11: all sort of started breathing again. And and that part
Speaker 11: went without hitch. But the pearl and the tails of
Speaker 11: the story well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean a lot of the stories to involve
Speaker 2: your mate, the late John Watson and like Gray. So
Speaker 2: you're back there and you reckon, you might have bumped
Speaker 2: into the guy who was the original threat, did you.
Speaker 11: Yeah, we did well, John John On myself and my
Speaker 11: daughter Stacey Weist did a lot of fundraisers down there.
Speaker 11: You know, we played music and whatever and entertained and
Speaker 11: and we did that over and over a number of years,
Speaker 11: and we've become very very close friends with the number
Speaker 11: of the local community. Then it was terrific Tom And
Speaker 11: after about three years one of one of who now
Speaker 11: has a very very good made of mind from there.
Speaker 11: They tapped me on the shoulder and he said, you
Speaker 11: know that issue a couple of years back with the
Speaker 11: Simon Crown. I said yeah, he said, the bloke that
Speaker 11: the key player, he's here and I said, are is
Speaker 11: there going to be an issue? Said no, Park, He's
Speaker 11: sort of there. It was a bad time, he said.
Speaker 11: We all sat down with him and while the visit
Speaker 11: was on and convinced him that it was silly and
Speaker 11: sort of helped him out the best way we could.
Speaker 2: So they actually knew that and they took him, took
Speaker 2: him the way that's right.
Speaker 11: They restrained him. Yeah, they had him in a out
Speaker 11: of town which was which was I'll forever be grateful
Speaker 11: for because forget me, forget Simon Crane. It's just something
Speaker 11: that the State of Western Australia did not want and
Speaker 11: does not want. There are other ways, even when you
Speaker 11: are at your lovest ebb, there are still ways to
Speaker 11: sort things out. And this guy actually was a decent
Speaker 11: bloke and I've had a couple of bees with him
Speaker 11: over the years and things like that, and what concerns
Speaker 11: me forget let's forget the violence and whatever. But in
Speaker 11: my view, policing now is becoming more and more different
Speaker 11: because we're getting issues now with the live sheep export.
Speaker 11: People are taking umorage about the firearms and taking We
Speaker 11: have a significant drought where you have the impact of
Speaker 11: the floods over in New South Wales will be impacting
Speaker 11: on cattle prices here farmers on the very very fine line.
Speaker 11: And this is where polacing in regions and that the
Speaker 11: coppers in the bush are part of the community. It's
Speaker 11: where they need to keep their ears to the ground
Speaker 11: and get out there. And we show with the footy clubs,
Speaker 11: the hockey clubs, the cwas and whatever. And that's a
Speaker 11: part of policing that we did very apparently in those
Speaker 11: days and needs to be done now. I get to
Speaker 11: know your community here.
Speaker 2: Here, we'll come back to parking just a moment. David
Speaker 2: bullardcatcher Parkinson's with today amazing story, Parky, I had no idea.
Speaker 2: I must have missed all of that. I'm not sure
Speaker 2: what I was doing, but that's that's incredible. That blowing
Speaker 2: up railway lines and super gloden banks and threatening federal
Speaker 2: politicians is incredible. We'll come back more Parky after these day.
Speaker 2: Parky Parkins is with us today, former super former, dignitary protection,
Speaker 2: former everything. This is a This is True Detective Our
Speaker 2: segment which is very popular. Parky Frosty has semesters. He
Speaker 2: says during those days that Parky is talking about protest
Speaker 2: group at the street March held up a banner which
Speaker 2: read which bank stylemo farm the bank suit for defamation
Speaker 2: and one damages there though they were the bad boys
Speaker 2: between ninety nineteen ninety four, David wanted to touch on
Speaker 2: this as well. Nineteen seventy six nineteen seventy seven you
Speaker 2: had a bit to do with women in policing and
Speaker 2: you might have met your love your life during this
Speaker 2: time as well.
Speaker 11: Yes, Simon, basically around about seventy ninety seventy five seventy
Speaker 11: six that we had a women Police office and absolute
Speaker 11: true legends of West Australian placing were there. You know,
Speaker 11: some of the most magnificent ladies you did forget. But
Speaker 11: what happened is I think it was around about seventy
Speaker 11: six the government and the WO Police Department decided to
Speaker 11: bring women into policing as general duties police officers, detective
Speaker 11: specialists and whatever on equal pay, which was huge. And
Speaker 11: I was in Calgary at the time, a young copper
Speaker 11: up there, and sadly we had a lot of the
Speaker 11: old sergeants, the old misogynists in those days, who were
Speaker 11: pretty said in their ways, and there was all sorts
Speaker 11: of issues. You know, you know, I can't send the
Speaker 11: bike and a woman out on patrol because if there's
Speaker 11: a fight, the blake's going to look after the woman.
Speaker 11: How you're going to get a hiding? And it was
Speaker 11: just a really really hard time for the female police officers.
Speaker 11: My wife Gil she was the first, I think, to
Speaker 11: come to Kogul under that umbrella. There were women police
Speaker 11: officers there before, but they were basically in a woman
Speaker 11: police section, and they did jobs with the checkers and police,
Speaker 11: particularly with sexual assault victims, particularly with any offenses or whatever.
Speaker 11: And I'm not degrading those ladies because they were pioneers
Speaker 11: and they worked in a very misogynistic environment. And it
Speaker 11: took her quite a while, for probably four or five years,
Speaker 11: maybe a little bit longer, for the women police officers
Speaker 11: to be accepted, not by the general duties troops. Obviously
Speaker 11: you got a young twenty three twenty four year old break.
Speaker 11: I thought it was a.
Speaker 22: Great idea, and across the regions and obviously it was
Speaker 22: the same, but there was this issue, and then of
Speaker 22: course horror, horror, but a Garland I met GALEI came
Speaker 22: to Caldully as a young woman police officer and we
Speaker 22: ended up going out to and we got married in
Speaker 22: nineteen seventy eight. Well, when it was announced that we
Speaker 22: were engaged, I got what we called a red devil
Speaker 22: in the male.
Speaker 11: That was a transfer notice to go yeah, yeah, really,
Speaker 11: so and so and her and I were the first
Speaker 11: one or two to actually get married at that time.
Speaker 11: And then of course, horror of all horror, Simon maternity,
Speaker 11: Dave maternity. So they come and they get pregnant, and
Speaker 11: now I'm one short on my shift. These are the
Speaker 11: these are the issues that the pioneers, and I call
Speaker 11: them pioneers of those days. And then horror, an absolute
Speaker 11: horror story. He assignment for your listeners out there, and
Speaker 11: you know, the tongues firmly planted in there in my cheek.
Speaker 11: One of my one of my very special women police officers,
Speaker 11: a lady by the name of Kathy Bullham, she become
Speaker 11: an officer in charge of a polaystation in the Wheat Belt. Now,
Speaker 11: she was the first horror horror and that was that
Speaker 11: was Darren And then they gave her Caliberan because she
Speaker 11: did such a good job amongst all the fighting and
Speaker 11: the feuds in Caliberan at the time. And Katy went
Speaker 11: on to become a very very professional police superintendent and
Speaker 11: I think her last posting was the District Superintendent of
Speaker 11: the Albany Region. So they'd come a long, long long
Speaker 11: way from from back in those days to now.
Speaker 2: And look, we have no names here, but at the
Speaker 2: current police commander was the first female bomb technician in Australia.
Speaker 2: You had a bit to do with that. And you
Speaker 2: know she was also involved in the bombing of Don
Speaker 2: Hancock and lou Lewis in the driveway and laugh Lane.
Speaker 2: So she's exceptional too.
Speaker 11: She's a tremendous lady. And I will to name her,
Speaker 11: but she's a tremendous lady. When my inspector from the
Speaker 11: Tactical Response Group, who the bomb squad was under the
Speaker 11: end there, came and saw me, so I liked to
Speaker 11: I like to put X up for a bomb training course,
Speaker 11: I said, I don't have an issue with that. Well,
Speaker 11: by Jesus signon, I got flogged. The head of the
Speaker 11: bomb training under the National County Terrorist Plan was in
Speaker 11: New South Wales. He rang me and the expletives that
Speaker 11: came down the line was quite horrendous. You know, what
Speaker 11: the hell do you think you're doing? So that made
Speaker 11: me even more determined. And I saw the Deputy Commissioner
Speaker 11: of Bruce Brennan, who in my view was tremendous fellow.
Speaker 11: He said, Parky, you're in charge if you think this
Speaker 11: lady's good enough. Yes, And so she fought Tooth and
Speaker 11: Narl and probably worked twice as hard than any other
Speaker 11: technician in Australia and overseas. And then she became an outstanding,
Speaker 11: outstanding bomb technician and she virtually, as Mel Brown would say,
Speaker 11: shoved it up them. And then now she's a high
Speaker 11: ranking female police officer who I have the utmost respect for.
Speaker 11: And every police officer from the day or from seventy
Speaker 11: six onwards, just absolutely incredible what they've been through, if
Speaker 11: breaks beyond sick leap, now, if they put up with
Speaker 11: what the women police officers did.
Speaker 2: Mi've got a nineteen year old and she her mate
Speaker 2: from school is just isna is up at Dune up
Speaker 2: training at the moment, Parky. And it's very normal for
Speaker 2: you know, girls of their age to see it as
Speaker 2: a career, as a profession, as an option. It's just normal.
Speaker 11: Now, well, it's incredible. And I've mentioned to you and
Speaker 11: your listeners that in twenty twenty one I worked back
Speaker 11: in with now Governor Chris Dawson in the COVID Command
Speaker 11: Center and we were based in the Offisheries Building office
Speaker 11: of the Highight there and it was a fifty to
Speaker 11: fifty split, fifty percent females fifty percent blokes. A lot
Speaker 11: of the females. There were managers, sergeants and senior sergeants,
Speaker 11: everything like that, and Simon, you wouldn't You could not
Speaker 11: tell the difference between the work ethic the respect of
Speaker 11: all those officers. They're just part of the game now, mate,
Speaker 11: A lot different to what happened. When I can remember
Speaker 11: the look on Gard's face when she first come to Calgury.
Speaker 11: There was a fellow playing up in the PlayStation. He
Speaker 11: was about six foot twelve tour and he was throwing
Speaker 11: us around like bloody nine pins, and she'd walk through
Speaker 11: the door and there. We were thrown up into the
Speaker 11: fans and through windows and she turned round started and
Speaker 11: that was that was just a normal that was just
Speaker 11: a normal days.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, park you could talk to you all day
Speaker 2: on this stuff. Thank you very much for being our
Speaker 2: true detective again today. And I should have mentioned this,
Speaker 2: but Simon Crean died a couple of years ago, Parky
Speaker 2: premature in Germany, didn't he So.
Speaker 11: He did and his brother was lost in the snowfield
Speaker 11: was a few years before that. I don't know what
Speaker 11: they have a family but not Yeah, yeah, tragic family.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good to talk to you, mate, Thank you very
Speaker 2: much for next fortnite. Thank you mate, Dave Parkinson, our
Speaker 2: true detective on the show. Got a million stories. And
Speaker 2: yeah to the to the recruits, upper journal, up the
Speaker 2: female recruits, good luck to here. I think over the
Speaker 2: years we've talked to some of the high sort of
Speaker 2: highly prized recruits that a lot of the female officers
Speaker 2: come through the system, come through the training system and
Speaker 2: marked very very highly in the all the testing, the
Speaker 2: firearms testing. In some cases not as big and as
Speaker 2: physically strong as some of the boys. But they make
Speaker 2: for fine fine coppers, don't they That has been true detective.
Speaker 2: When we come we'll take a little break when we
Speaker 2: come back. Going to speak to Karen Chapel, she's the
Speaker 2: president of WALGA. It was about a year ago. I
Speaker 2: went to a press conference with Karen and Reese Whitby
Speaker 2: was there. He was the Environment Minister. Jackie Jarvis was theirs,
Speaker 2: the agricultural Minister, and they said we're gonna get We're
Speaker 2: going to give the community groups, local government schools seven
Speaker 2: million dollars to plant trees that have been taken out
Speaker 2: by the boor by the polyfagers, shothold borer. No trees.
Speaker 2: None of the money's been spent, is no trees. Stay listening.
Speaker 2: Steve says, you should have party on twice a week.
Speaker 2: Thanks you boy, it's only a four hour show. That's
Speaker 2: a problem, Steve. You can talk and talk and talk.
Speaker 2: Love talking to our true detective Dave Parkinson. He's a ripper,
Speaker 2: isn't he. I'm glad you like Oh, thank you. I
Speaker 2: remember going to in my former job. I went to
Speaker 2: a press conference with Karen Chappel, the president of WELGA,
Speaker 2: and the mayor of the town of vincent In allison'
Speaker 2: zamon and a few other people. Jackie Jarvis was there,
Speaker 2: the Agriculture Minister. Reese Whitby was the Environment minister, and
Speaker 2: at the time it was a plan to put out
Speaker 2: seven million bucks worth of money to replant trees had
Speaker 2: been knocked over, that were replacing trees knocked over because
Speaker 2: of the poly faker shothold borer. I don't know that
Speaker 2: any trees have been planted whatsoever. Karen Chapel is the
Speaker 2: WELGA president, joins me. Now, hey, Karen, I remember that
Speaker 2: day to you.
Speaker 16: Good morning, Simon, Yes, clearly I do, yes, Hyge Park.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So nothing's happened, Karen. What's your understanding why as
Speaker 2: to why nothing's happened.
Speaker 16: I have no understanding as to why nothing has happened.
Speaker 16: But I am I am pleased today that we've got
Speaker 16: the opportunity now to apply to some grants. But it
Speaker 16: doesn't stop us, from a welders perspective, to continue to
Speaker 16: ask the government to strengthen its research capacity. You know,
Speaker 16: we need to put further funding into research and how
Speaker 16: we're going to manage this pest going forward. I mean,
Speaker 16: this announcement is to replace the trees that have been lost,
Speaker 16: and that's not going to be done overnight by any
Speaker 16: stretching imagination, even though the applications are open for six
Speaker 16: weeks and local governments will apply for it, no doubt
Speaker 16: and take their time to replace the trees as they
Speaker 16: see appropriate. But a grave concern to us is that
Speaker 16: this borer is a critical It's critical that we manage
Speaker 16: it and we need to have a plan around that.
Speaker 2: Simon, Yeah, sure, so you know this, and I know this.
Speaker 2: So Clermont's lost trees, Allison's lost trees in Vincent, I
Speaker 2: think Canning's lost trees Bayswater. Do you get a sense
Speaker 2: that the current regime the containment zones are working, Karen,
Speaker 2: But they're.
Speaker 16: Focusing very strongly on the zone Zone A and making
Speaker 16: sure it's contained of the Zone B, which is the
Speaker 16: buffer zone. And I do believe that everybody's working really
Speaker 16: hard to contain it. But however, and the approach seems
Speaker 16: to be not they're not just sort of cutting the
Speaker 16: trees down like they were initially. They're trying everything they
Speaker 16: can to save trees.
Speaker 11: But you would have.
Speaker 16: Heard where Mayor Zamon announced or said the other day
Speaker 16: that the Hyde Parks lost the fight with on a
Speaker 16: couple of the islands. So it's containment is the ultimate goal,
Speaker 16: and it absolutely is the ultimate goal. We don't want
Speaker 16: it to spread at all. However, there's many different prongs
Speaker 16: to this. Recovery is one responses another and looking to
Speaker 16: the future and looking for management is also one of
Speaker 16: the elements that we have to we have to consider.
Speaker 2: Daren, Am I hearing you right that the grants for
Speaker 2: this dough and it was seven point two mill possibly
Speaker 2: up to sixteen thousand trees. I think for every tree
Speaker 2: that we lose to the borer, you could plant three,
Speaker 2: I think I remember requitly saying that. Am I hearing
Speaker 2: that the actual ground round has only just opened? Is
Speaker 2: that what you're saying?
Speaker 16: It's open, Yeah, it's only just open, and it's open
Speaker 16: for six weeks only. It closes on Monday to seventh July,
Speaker 16: and local governments can apply for I think it's eleven
Speaker 16: hundred and forty dollars per tree they've lost, and an
Speaker 16: exception exceptional circumstances they can apply for a larger amount
Speaker 16: of I guess something like I'm money guessing something like
Speaker 16: Hide Park. But it's yeah, there's been over four thousand trees,
Speaker 16: four fifty five hundred and fifteen was the last count
Speaker 16: that we're aware of across the metropolitan area, is right,
Speaker 16: how even not all of that is of course local
Speaker 16: government something something that's private land and today government.
Speaker 2: Four thousand and five that I haven't heard that figure for.
Speaker 2: And that's not just the Morton Bay figs. That's playing
Speaker 2: trees and other species too, Karen, that's all.
Speaker 16: That's all trees. That that's the data that the most
Speaker 16: recent data that we've actually had access to helps us that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, And to go back to where we started.
Speaker 2: Do we know why the grants around us has been
Speaker 2: so delayed?
Speaker 16: Absolutely? I have no idea what we've been We have
Speaker 16: been advocating strongly for this to open so that local
Speaker 16: governments can get on and order their trees and get
Speaker 16: you know, and consider planting them. Now they will be
Speaker 16: able to order them this year and they have three
Speaker 16: years in which to plant those trees. You know, I guess,
Speaker 16: choose the appropriate tree, make the right grounds prepared, and
Speaker 16: then get grant trees back into the ground.
Speaker 17: Yeah.
Speaker 2: That's the other thing where if it is a Morton
Speaker 2: Bay fig, they've got a huge root structure and their
Speaker 2: big trees, and you can't necessarily put the tree back
Speaker 2: in a new tree back in the same spot.
Speaker 16: Hey, well, I'm not a an't it? But I'm assuming
Speaker 16: not No.
Speaker 2: Not a I'm not a I've got a cult from you,
Speaker 2: learned something new every day. You can be a farmer,
Speaker 2: but not a gardener. Karen, that tried.
Speaker 17: You know.
Speaker 16: We can't be perfected everything.
Speaker 2: I'll be good at everything. Hey, Karen, just while I
Speaker 2: have you and I don't know if you've heard or
Speaker 2: if you've chatted to to your gang in it Welga.
Speaker 2: Are Yogu going to get some money out of defense?
Speaker 2: Have have you heard anything on the d RF A
Speaker 2: funny No.
Speaker 16: No, I haven't heard. I've heard the concerns and I'm
Speaker 16: very much aware of the Yelgu, the shop of Ylgu's
Speaker 16: the position there in and that it is a matter
Speaker 16: that DRF Defense are considering.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, nice to chat you today, Karen.
Speaker 16: Thank you, Okay, thanks not to see you too, Simon.
Speaker 2: Karen Chappel Welga presidents. So four thy, five hundred and
Speaker 2: fifteen trees in the metro area have been lost to
Speaker 2: the boro. I haven't heard that before, and that's the
Speaker 2: latest figure. That's just I think that's local government tree,
Speaker 2: so there could be more. So have you have you
Speaker 2: had a tree knocked over, shredded, mulched, chipped because of
Speaker 2: the boar in your street, in your neighborhood, or on
Speaker 2: your property. Let me know, one double three eighty two.
Speaker 2: That's that's been a long time coming, that money. And
Speaker 2: as I say, I went to the press conference that
Speaker 2: day with a heap of people from the West and
Speaker 2: all the TV stations were there. Caitlin Rentle was there
Speaker 2: from the West. Everyone was there and the money was announced,
Speaker 2: you know, and Rees Whitby. It does have that reputation.
Speaker 2: Here we go, here's the money, let's talk about this,
Speaker 2: let's meet, let's chat this through. But the Department's taken
Speaker 2: a long time to put the money out. And I
Speaker 2: can't remember whether Reese was the water Minister or the
Speaker 2: environment minister at the time, or perhaps potentially both, but
Speaker 2: Jackie Jarvis was the Minister of every agriculture. Have you
Speaker 2: had a tree knocked down in your neighborhood, either on
Speaker 2: local government land, on your property, on your verge, on
Speaker 2: the meeting strip, down the local park. Let me know
Speaker 2: one double three eight eighty two four five hundred and
Speaker 2: fifteen trees lost to the borer since since it turned
Speaker 2: up in twenty December twenty twenty one, and this and
Speaker 2: this announcement, the seven point two million dollar announcement was
Speaker 2: made just trying to get a date on this on
Speaker 2: the twenty fourth or the eighth last year. So the
Speaker 2: twenty fourth of August last year taking a while, hasn't
Speaker 2: it for the money to become available? It is eight
Speaker 2: eight minutes to eleven geda justin mad here gone good,
Speaker 2: thank you.
Speaker 17: Look I'm just ringing up. I'm now about to have
Speaker 17: a third tree cut down from this bug. I'm up
Speaker 17: in les Murdy And what I've been told is there's
Speaker 17: no compensation. Like I'm about to lose amulberry tree that's
Speaker 17: about fifty sixty years old.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't
Speaker 2: know Mylberys could cop the boar. Is that that's that's
Speaker 2: an in proper.
Speaker 17: Yep, very susceptible pretty much anything that's not native.
Speaker 3: But how's this.
Speaker 17: I've got a native maluca a t tree that's also
Speaker 17: been affected by it. It's got him where I've pruned it.
Speaker 2: Yeah really okay, hey, justin So no compensation.
Speaker 23: Is it?
Speaker 2: Is it worth talking to? So what shire is Lesbon?
Speaker 2: Does you say Les Mardy or come him under?
Speaker 17: Yeah, it's actually it's not the shy that does it.
Speaker 17: It's the government. So the Department of Primary Industries. They
Speaker 17: are the ones that come out, have a look and
Speaker 17: then organize if you want someone, yeah.
Speaker 8: Cut it down?
Speaker 2: Who pays for the who pays for it to be
Speaker 2: cut down? Justin?
Speaker 17: Well, I'd say the government, the Department. I've spoken to him,
Speaker 17: but they they're not that well funded when it comes.
Speaker 2: So do they take it? Do they take the chips away?
Speaker 18: Just?
Speaker 2: Do they dispose of the chips?
Speaker 18: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, they have to.
Speaker 17: And then you go into a quarantine stage where anything
Speaker 17: over two and a half centimeters can't be removed from
Speaker 17: your property. So you've got to burn it and I'm
Speaker 17: lucky enough to do it up where I am.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, sure, all right mate? So what are
Speaker 2: you going? Maybe you can yeah, in the absence of
Speaker 2: knowing justin, maybe you could talk to the shy up
Speaker 2: there and see if they can help you out with
Speaker 2: some replants. Is it in your back garden? Is it
Speaker 2: or on your property somewhere?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 20: Yeah, yeah it is.
Speaker 17: But the thing about it is the show used to
Speaker 17: provide fifteen plants a year, but now they've determined that
Speaker 17: it's more of a lottery. So I just source met mate,
Speaker 17: you know.
Speaker 2: All right, yeah, all right mate. Well maybe ring Darren
Speaker 2: scene or between six and eight on Saturday or Sunday
Speaker 2: he might be able to. He's got a big tree
Speaker 2: farm out in Burlong, mate, maybe he'll spot you up
Speaker 2: public new trees. Thanks justin interesting chat, Thank you mate.
Speaker 2: We have did ask to speak to the new Environment
Speaker 2: Minister Matthew Swinborne. He's in back to back meetings ahead
Speaker 2: of parliamentary sitting, but he hasn't been available. I tell
Speaker 2: you he has been available. Is a lot to this show,
Speaker 2: is Reta Safiotti. Karen says, surely the polyfaker shotthold borer
Speaker 2: problem needs to be eradicated before new trees are planted. Karen,
Speaker 2: there are species known that are not susceptible to the borer.
Speaker 2: There's allest of them. Maybe next time I speak to
Speaker 2: Darren and or Sue we can go through some of those.
Speaker 2: But there are there are trees that the borer can't attack,
Speaker 2: and it's sort of that research is reasonably comprehensive. I
Speaker 2: think one double three eighty two. Thanks for your thoughts
Speaker 2: justin Thanks Karen back in a sec A good song,
Speaker 2: isn't it? Just listening to the bloking les Murdy with
Speaker 2: the disease trees? Why does everyone want compensation these days?
Speaker 2: He's one. Nothing seems to get done and bureaucracy takes
Speaker 2: over with layers and layers of red tapes. Is Tom Tom,
Speaker 2: It's a pest that came through the Freemount of Port
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one December. I reckon and four thousand
Speaker 2: and five hundred trees have disappeared that we know of.
Speaker 2: And I you know, if you had a tree on
Speaker 2: your property, a fifty year old mulbry tree, and some
Speaker 2: bug that wasn't contained manages to get hold of your
Speaker 2: mulbry tree, I think it would be you would be aggrieved,
Speaker 2: I think. And he's lost three trees, So I take
Speaker 2: your point about compensation, but I know that's what this
Speaker 2: I'm hoping that that's what this money, the seven point
Speaker 2: two million dollars will go towards maybe helping out some
Speaker 2: landowners as well as you know what happens on your
Speaker 2: media industrip and happens on your local park I spoke
Speaker 2: to Thanks Tom, thanks for your corrol mate. I spoke
Speaker 2: to Rita Safiotti earlier on today I wanted to. I
Speaker 2: asked her about the Beer knuckle Fighting Championship that's coming
Speaker 2: to Perth. Could it could be as soon as June?
Speaker 2: So Jamie Burnett from Weekends very cleverly spotted that the
Speaker 2: legislation had been changed and that the Beare Knuckle Fighting
Speaker 2: championsh Ship was now part of the Combat Sports included
Speaker 2: that the Combat Sports Commission oversee. So I asked Rita
Speaker 2: Safaiotti this morning, has she met with Anthony Grover Groves
Speaker 2: number fourteen for Frio rip a bloke, first Aboriginal fellow
Speaker 2: to play two hundred games for FREEO doctors. I know,
Speaker 2: something's very very proud of. But he's also the head
Speaker 2: of the Combat Sports Commission. And I asked Rita if
Speaker 2: she had met with the Commission and with Groves. Here's
Speaker 2: what she had to say.
Speaker 15: Yeah, I did. Actually, both him and Bob Katura came
Speaker 15: in to brief me about the sport and in particular
Speaker 15: what they've been doing in relation to the regulation of
Speaker 15: that sport. In relations to that sport, there were some
Speaker 15: regulatory changes that were made, so those regulations were changed,
Speaker 15: and now there's been an event that's come forward, so
Speaker 15: the Combat Sports Commission is going through that proposed event
Speaker 15: and in particular looking at what additional regulations could be
Speaker 15: put in place.
Speaker 2: When Minister Safiotti spoke about the ben Knuckled Fighting Championships
Speaker 2: last week, she said she could exercise a veto on
Speaker 2: whether the event came here or not, but she obviously
Speaker 2: taking advice from the Combat Sports Commission at this point.
Speaker 2: Brendan's phone in.
Speaker 14: Hi.
Speaker 2: Brennan, Hi Simon.
Speaker 21: Firstly, I don't think it's being luckle fighting as any
Speaker 21: form of sport at all. To me, it's a blood
Speaker 21: sport and I don't really see what regulations kind of
Speaker 21: stop it. I think reader needs to really have a
Speaker 21: look at it from a totally different perspective. We're trying
Speaker 21: to rid our society of all forms of violence and
Speaker 21: domestic violence. These one punch of tax at killing crippled people.
Speaker 21: I just don't see any place for it coming to
Speaker 21: Perth or anything like that. We've got police doing special
Speaker 21: training to handle domestic violent situations. That situation is pretty
Speaker 21: much out of hand. I just do not agree with it.
Speaker 21: Coming here at all?
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, are you ok ufc.
Speaker 21: Uh well yes or no? But I wouldn't pay to
Speaker 21: go and watch two blokes or two ladies belt the
Speaker 21: hell out of his cellars.
Speaker 2: Yeah all right mate, not so yeah, thanks Brendan. All
Speaker 2: they're all good points, Brendan. It seems it seems pretty brutal,
Speaker 2: doesn't it.
Speaker 21: Well, it does, Simon, and you know we're trying to
Speaker 21: get rude violence out of our society. We never will,
Speaker 21: but I just can't say them what type of people
Speaker 21: would go and pay the watches?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 21: That does me, mate. I think really needs to have
Speaker 21: another look at it, I really do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks Brendan, cheers mate, thanks for your thought. It's
Speaker 2: one double three A two is the phone number. So
Speaker 2: Brenda is not a fan of being knuckle boxing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's good work by JB spotting that one. If you're listening, Jamie,
Speaker 2: Harold of the Rocks, I think it's two rocks, isn't Harold?
Speaker 2: That's Harold of the Rocks. You European housebor or a
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Speaker 2: time that quarantine services and facilities were improved. You raise
Speaker 2: a very good point, Harold. Thank you mate, thanks for
Speaker 2: getting in touch with us today. Hayden says, with a
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Speaker 2: small trees. About twenty of these plants I've germinated. I
Speaker 2: planning these around very soon, Thank you, Hayden. I guess
Speaker 2: the thing with planning natives, big natives like that gum
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Speaker 2: before they're you know, a meter tool or two meters
Speaker 2: tall or thirty meters sore won't, Hayden. But good on you.
Speaker 2: I do know from my time on the weekends with
Speaker 2: Dazzcine or and with Sue, that the Muchet Tree Farm
Speaker 2: says sell seedlings, Hayden. Of those species you're talking about,
Speaker 2: and they're about it, they're under two bucks and they're
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Speaker 2: they're five centimeters toll, so they're a good economical way
Speaker 2: to plant a big gum tree. But excellent work by you.
Speaker 2: Are you a member or have you invested in retirees
Speaker 2: WA story Doing the rounds today, I'll let you know
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Speaker 2: us this morning. We did try and get her on air.
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Speaker 2: in today. Any of your thoughts if if you have
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Speaker 1: On Perth six PR. This is Perth Today with Simon Beaumont.
Speaker 2: Thanks listening in deja vu all over again. Remember listening
Speaker 2: to this station. I think I was working at the
Speaker 2: station at the time as well. Remember Martin Whitey twenty
Speaker 2: ten West Australia MP. He had a book out and
Speaker 2: he used to took way back there in twenty ten,
Speaker 2: thank you Sean. He had a book out called Speed
Speaker 2: Up and Sit Still, The Controversies of ADHD Diagnosis and Treatment,
Speaker 2: and it was published in twenty ten, so fifteen years ago,
Speaker 2: and he was saying back then it was being overdiagnosed,
Speaker 2: over prescribed at the time, So back in twenty ten,
Speaker 2: and Martin's campaigned long and hard, even post post MP life,
Speaker 2: if that makes sense. So ADHD one of the most
Speaker 2: commonly diagnosed childhood psychiatric disorders in the Western world, and
Speaker 2: there's a report out today that it's still being overdiagnosed,
Speaker 2: oversubscribed in both children and in adults. So what's been
Speaker 2: your experience in all of this in your world, in
Speaker 2: amongst your friends, your family, your kids. I have had
Speaker 2: some experience with it one of my kids. And it's
Speaker 2: an industry, It's an absolute industry. The number of psychs
Speaker 2: who work in at the expense, the expense of the medication.
Speaker 2: And this is still a condition that I don't know
Speaker 2: is completely understood. It's not a blood test. It's not like, well,
Speaker 2: you have a blood it's not like you don't. It's
Speaker 2: not like a COVID test you've definitely got ADHD or
Speaker 2: you have some measure of anxiety or whatever it is.
Speaker 2: It's an absolute industry, and when one of your kids
Speaker 2: is involved, you don't get a lot of access to
Speaker 2: information because it's private and it's the right of your kids,
Speaker 2: especially if they're over sixteen or fifteen, to they don't
Speaker 2: have to tell you, and the doctor doesn't have the
Speaker 2: GP doesn't have to tell you as to what's going on,
Speaker 2: and the diagnosis is incredibly frustrating. We're going to talk
Speaker 2: about that in just a moment. We have a report
Speaker 2: today that still says it's being overdiagnosed and oversubscribed and
Speaker 2: people have been prescribed medications left, right and center. So
Speaker 2: Martin Whiteley back in twenty ten bought the book out,
Speaker 2: brought the book out, and we're still talking about it
Speaker 2: as being over diagnosed. One double three eighty two coming
Speaker 2: up on the PROGRAMM in just a moment as well.
Speaker 2: Tim Ridan's in from the housing industry of Australia will
Speaker 2: have a look at the housing market in WA. Cam
Speaker 2: Laid's coming in as well from summ At Homes. We're
Speaker 2: looking into the housing industry and market around w A.
Speaker 2: Is it easy? Do we have more supply of product?
Speaker 2: Do we have more supply of labor? We've got enough
Speaker 2: roof carpenter's and roof plumbers and Bricky's chippies. Do we
Speaker 2: have enough of all that? How we going in w
Speaker 2: A at the moment. We'll talk about that in just
Speaker 2: a second. A bit of correspondence coming in on beer
Speaker 2: knuckle fighting after Brandon's call get rid of beer knuckle
Speaker 2: Fighting and retas is one of our listeners Shane says,
Speaker 2: which I don't subscribe to. Shanes says, is safjoty trying
Speaker 2: to encourage violence or curbits. There's a lot of contradiction
Speaker 2: in her points of view. John's SEMs is provocative and
Speaker 2: thought provoking. UFC is not violence. When it's done in
Speaker 2: the ring, it's sport. If it's done on the street,
Speaker 2: it's violence. We don't ban AFL if I jump up
Speaker 2: on someone's back and need him in the back of
Speaker 2: the head on the street there's violence, it's sport on
Speaker 2: the footy field. Thanks John, good perspective. Cheers mate, cad
Speaker 2: a Bruce.
Speaker 3: Mate.
Speaker 12: John made a damn good point there. Same thing with
Speaker 12: rugby spear tackle someone on a rugby field of sports
Speaker 12: spear tackle on the street and it's violence. Yeah, it's
Speaker 12: it's BKFSA at the moment before it was UFC. It
Speaker 12: doesn't matter what the what the sport is or the
Speaker 12: combat sport is. People complain. Now sports have rules and
Speaker 12: points scoring system, which is combat sports.
Speaker 24: Do that?
Speaker 12: Then people go and say it's a blood sport. Well,
Speaker 12: blood sport or not. Still got the words sport in it,
Speaker 12: doesn't it.
Speaker 6: Now a lot of the people going.
Speaker 12: On about readers trying to encourage violence, and you know,
Speaker 12: we've got a problem with violence in our society and everything,
Speaker 12: and I can see what they're saying. However, the average
Speaker 12: combat sports or blood sport enthusiast or watcher or supporter
Speaker 12: isn't someone who's actually actively participating in martial arts and
Speaker 12: training themselves. Majority of them just don't. They just enjoy it.
Speaker 12: But you'd find that people who actually do enjoy the
Speaker 12: sport and watching it and engage in martial arts and
Speaker 12: even fighters themselves. They are not the people going out fights.
Speaker 12: They are not the people going out doing coward punches.
Speaker 12: They are not the people being violent in the streets.
Speaker 12: They are the ones controlling themselves, are the ones who
Speaker 12: are diffusing situations unless they actually have something happened to
Speaker 12: them in the first place.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, all right mate, Hey yeah, good. Thanks your thoughts, Bruce.
Speaker 2: I'll percolate on those. I'll have a little think about that. Cheers, mate,
Speaker 2: Thank you for your thoughts. I think I think did
Speaker 2: I read something in the in one of the papers
Speaker 2: that I read this morning. There's some new research to
Speaker 2: say that people who do coward punch can hit people
Speaker 2: men in their twenties, and they're out at night, So
Speaker 2: the assaults are happening at nighttime, mostly enacted by men
Speaker 2: in their twenties. I think I read that somewhere today,
Speaker 2: which sounds about right, doesn't it. What do you reckon listeners?
Speaker 2: The bare knuckle Fighting Championships will be you know, will
Speaker 2: be held under certain conditions. There'll be a doctor at ringside,
Speaker 2: there'll be some rules around that, there'll be it looks
Speaker 2: like the Combat Sports Commissioner pushing for the fighters to
Speaker 2: be of a certain experience. We had heard from one
Speaker 2: of our listeners that the BKFC organizers were shopping around
Speaker 2: town to try and find some fighters for the undercart.
Speaker 2: That's what we've heard. It's thirteen minutes past eleven, geda
Speaker 2: Louise Luisa there, can you hear me?
Speaker 25: Yes?
Speaker 10: Yes, I am yeah?
Speaker 15: Hi?
Speaker 14: How you go good?
Speaker 24: How are you good?
Speaker 3: Thing?
Speaker 2: Adhd Yes?
Speaker 24: Yeah, I was calling about the fact that you said
Speaker 24: that it's being over diagnosed. I'm Fortgaton was diagnosed last year,
Speaker 24: and it's being talked about a lot these days because
Speaker 24: so many women of my age who are finally being
Speaker 24: diagnosed with it instead of being misdiagnosed for years with
Speaker 24: things like anxiety or just all other thought depression and
Speaker 24: all those sorts of conditions.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 24: So it's just really frustrating because, yeah, you hear this
Speaker 24: sort of stuff all the time. It's been over diagnosed
Speaker 24: and all that sort of thing, but it's not it's
Speaker 24: just that for years women missed.
Speaker 2: So yeah, women, this is this report is coming out.
Speaker 2: You know, I can only express my frustration having a
Speaker 2: kid and I just you know, just and kids in
Speaker 2: particular do talk amongst themselves, Louise, you know that the
Speaker 2: peer pressure and there's a bit of a badge that
Speaker 2: goes with at least I now know what what I've gotten.
Speaker 2: Now we can address it. But there is a report,
Speaker 2: there is a report out today and it comes from
Speaker 2: psychiatrists that it's been diagnosed, and I appreciate it. So
Speaker 2: it's made a.
Speaker 10: Difference to you, right, because obviously women, girls prevent.
Speaker 24: Differently to boys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, Louise, I'm not I'm not cutting you off.
Speaker 2: Just try and move. I can't hear because your phone
Speaker 2: is a glitchy. Just move a bit if you will.
Speaker 25: Yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're gone.
Speaker 24: Is that better?
Speaker 10: Yeah, yep.
Speaker 24: Yeah. So it's just it's it explains my whole sort
Speaker 24: of childhood. And then he has also explained a lot
Speaker 24: of issues that I've had, you know, even when you're
Speaker 24: like becoming a mother and all of that sort of thing.
Speaker 24: And also also a lot of women at my age
Speaker 24: are in ferry menopause and that's when the symptoms are
Speaker 24: actually exacerbated, and that's why so many of us are
Speaker 24: actually getting diagnosed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, good luck, Louis. He thinks it's calling
Speaker 2: us today.
Speaker 24: Thank you.
Speaker 2: How it goes well, gid I, Frank.
Speaker 20: Yes, good morning woman. Bare knuckle fighting was banned over
Speaker 20: one hundred years ago. It's violent and brutal and dismiss
Speaker 20: Pepper Rottio thinks that this is a good example there
Speaker 20: our young people, the violence in the city of a
Speaker 20: Friday and Saturday night. I don't go into your own
Speaker 20: Northbridge anymore. This is a really bad example. And cage fighting,
Speaker 20: so I've even gone even more so he's gone from
Speaker 20: cage fighting to bare knuckle fighting. What you're going to
Speaker 20: pull in the next ball fighting? I mean it's absolutely outrageous.
Speaker 20: And being a woman, I thought you'd have more sense,
Speaker 20: but unfortunately she hasn't. So she's just vi she's following
Speaker 20: orders from her boss or not. But the Labor Party
Speaker 20: ought to be ashamed of themselves bringing all these violent
Speaker 20: sports into Western Australia.
Speaker 2: All right, thanks, thanks Frank. I don't know what her
Speaker 2: being a woman has to do with it in my view,
Speaker 2: but appreciate your thoughts.
Speaker 8: Yeah, the.
Speaker 2: It was it was banned, wasn't it. So UFC was
Speaker 2: banned in this state under Columbardeed and tuck Waldron Sports
Speaker 2: Minister kayetuck If you're listening. Labor brought it back in.
Speaker 2: We've had UFC fights here in Perth. You know that
Speaker 2: the main game, the promotional arm of MMA has been
Speaker 2: here in Perth. But now this is a this is
Speaker 2: a next step. This is a progression or a bracket
Speaker 2: creep of what we're tolerating as sport. There's no question
Speaker 2: about that. Six sixteen minutes past eleven o'clock is the
Speaker 2: sideline and this is this related I do today? Is
Speaker 2: the sideline behavior of parents in junior sports still an issue?
Speaker 2: The yes are twenty two and the nose are eleven.
Speaker 2: I'll come back to you. I'm going to speak to
Speaker 2: Pat McGrory and just the mame Professor Pat McGrory. Sir
Speaker 2: Patrick was the Australian of the Year a while back
Speaker 2: and he's a strong advocate on mental health issues. Stay listening, Yeah,
Speaker 2: thanks for listening in It is nineteen minutes or twenty
Speaker 2: minutes past eleven. Thanks for your thoughts. We are running
Speaker 2: a poll today, do you yes?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Poll? Is the sideline behavior of parents in junior sports
Speaker 2: still an issue here in Perth in Western Australia. The
Speaker 2: yes are twenty two and the nose eleven. Thanks for
Speaker 2: your thoughts and all of that. Will keep a tally
Speaker 2: right through until the end of the day. Still to
Speaker 2: come on the program, We've got the guys from the
Speaker 2: Housing Industry Association of Australia will be in. We're going
Speaker 2: to talk about the housing market after eleven thirty. After
Speaker 2: twelve o'clock today, it's the final episode of the final
Speaker 2: season of Handmaid's Tale is on pretty much as we speak.
Speaker 2: I think I think it's been broadcast as we speak.
Speaker 2: We're going to talk about TV series that you're bailed
Speaker 2: out of. TV series that you're bailed out of at
Speaker 2: some point, is rather than talk about series that you've
Speaker 2: seen all the way through l like six seasons of
Speaker 2: Handmaid's Tale. Are you did you barl out of something?
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that after mid day today and Craig
Speaker 2: Bloxham will join us in about an hour's time. Craig
Speaker 2: is the lead singer and guitarist from The Spies from
Speaker 2: Spy Versus Spy heading back to Perth, got some new material.
Speaker 2: What a band they were? Hey, they're always second or
Speaker 2: third on the support bill, weren't they. Spies saw them
Speaker 2: heaps of times in pubs and a big big concerts,
Speaker 2: Spy versus Spies. Craig Bloxham, leads singer, sing a songwriter, guitarist,
Speaker 2: will join us in about an hour's time to reflect
Speaker 2: on the like and time of the Spies. Professor Patrick
Speaker 2: McGrory AO is a psychiatrist Professor of Youth Mental Health
Speaker 2: at the University of Melbourne. Former Australian of the Year.
Speaker 2: Though I speak as you've been Australia of the Year
Speaker 2: or as in Astrainia of the Year. HALLI Patrick, good.
Speaker 18: To told you, thank you, good afternoon, good morning.
Speaker 2: Yes, sorry, yeah, nice to have you on the show today.
Speaker 2: So there is a warning out today and this has
Speaker 2: has been reported in the Herald Sun in Melbourne two
Speaker 2: prominent psychosis woman overdiagnosed and over medication of ADHD is
Speaker 2: an issue and we're seeing as profit driven diagnosis, soft
Speaker 2: the symptom criteria, inconsistent treatment standards across the living stresses,
Speaker 2: academic pressure and social media influence.
Speaker 18: What do you think, Well, it's a mixed picture. Actually
Speaker 18: there's an underdiagnosis as well. I spent the day yesterday
Speaker 18: in a headspace in New South Wales. I saw fifteen
Speaker 18: young people and more than half of them were referred
Speaker 18: for assessment or reassessment for ADHD as along with everything else.
Speaker 18: And these are people who can't afford the private clinic,
Speaker 18: so we're seeing them in a free service at Headspace,
Speaker 18: and nearly all of them had a genuine case of ADHD,
Speaker 18: and many of them are responding very well to treatment,
Speaker 18: So it's a real thing. It does respond to treatment,
Speaker 18: especially when it's more obvious and severe, and particularly when
Speaker 18: it clearly starts in childhood. But what we've seen in
Speaker 18: recent years is kind of a shift in the criteria,
Speaker 18: so we are able to include in the diagnose people
Speaker 18: down the much milder or shallower end of the pool
Speaker 18: because it is a spectrum and it's much less clear
Speaker 18: cut whether these people are going to benefit from diagnosis
Speaker 18: and treatment. They think they will because they're seeking the diagnosis.
Speaker 18: There's a huge consumer pressure to get the diagnosis amongst
Speaker 18: these people. But there is something wrong with them. They
Speaker 18: are they are feeling that life is not good for them.
Speaker 18: But whether it's ADHD or something else, and it's very
Speaker 18: easy to fit into the milder end of the spectrum
Speaker 18: because the symptoms involved stuff that all of us might
Speaker 18: have problems with them. Times a time, So it's a
Speaker 18: mixture of underdiagnosed and I think misdiagnosis as well.
Speaker 2: That's very interesting. So the data itself, Patrick comes out
Speaker 2: from the Australian Institute of Health and Welfare, and I
Speaker 2: saw that. Yeah, they're reflecting a ten percent increase on
Speaker 2: last year for under eighteen patients. What is that because
Speaker 2: we have we changed the criteria of diagnosis, the symptoms.
Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, it's easier to get the diagnosis now. But
Speaker 18: in younger people it's probably less likely to be misdiagnosed
Speaker 18: because it is a disorder, neurodevelopmental disorder. It's supposed to
Speaker 18: be at its peak in primary school really, and the
Speaker 18: old idea was that it got better as you got
Speaker 18: older and you more or has grew out of it
Speaker 18: in most cases, so people recovered from it. There was
Speaker 18: a recovery pathway from it. But you know, people have
Speaker 18: rethought that without a huge amount of evidence. Think and
Speaker 18: they're allowing people in adult lives to be diagnosed for
Speaker 18: the first time.
Speaker 20: Now.
Speaker 18: Some of those people will have been missed in childhood
Speaker 18: because it was underdiagnosed in the past. But there's another
Speaker 18: group who are struggling in various ways and they've lapped
Speaker 18: onto this very popular sort of label if you like,
Speaker 18: and putting a lot of pressure I think on prescribers.
Speaker 18: And of course some of the prescribers are exploiting that
Speaker 18: because it's in the private practice world, it's a market.
Speaker 18: So these are very large co claimers that some psychiatrists
Speaker 18: are charging are pretty worrying.
Speaker 2: Speaking to Patrick McGrory, listeners the professors with us today
Speaker 2: talking about this new data that seems to reflect Yeah,
Speaker 2: a perfect storm of a number of factors. Well, the optics,
Speaker 2: So Patrick, I've got a family member and some experience
Speaker 2: with headspace and were professional services as well that aren't
Speaker 2: not for profits. What about the optics? He does look
Speaker 2: like in industry, doesn't it.
Speaker 18: Yeah, Well, this is why the federal government's commitments in
Speaker 18: the election campaign, which we're actually matched by the coalition too,
Speaker 18: to be fair, of expanding the free mental health care
Speaker 18: for young people, you know, by boosting headspace capacity and
Speaker 18: also building a backup system, a more specialized expert mental
Speaker 18: health care sitting behind headspace for the more complex cases.
Speaker 18: So that means that the healthcare will be more equitable
Speaker 18: for young people, for children and young people, and it
Speaker 18: has been because we've had a two tiered system. You know,
Speaker 18: the public system has been very poorly funded in the past,
Speaker 18: and you've got this private system, which involves most of
Speaker 18: private psychiatry and corporates are actually getting to this ADHD
Speaker 18: sort of trend as well, So it was getting very inequitable.
Speaker 18: So if you had money, you could sort of almost
Speaker 18: purchase the diagnosis and the treatment, whereas if you're a
Speaker 18: normal person, even it's been out of reach. So I
Speaker 18: think in general getting access to mental health care for
Speaker 18: young people, only fifty percent of young people do get
Speaker 18: access in a timely way to quality mental health care,
Speaker 18: and the federal governs is boosting that, and there is
Speaker 18: a genuine rise in mental illness and young people. We've
Speaker 18: seen a fifty percent jump in all formats of mental
Speaker 18: illness across the last fifteen years. So I'm just a
Speaker 18: bit concerned that this kind of soft aspect of things
Speaker 18: might discredit and turn attention away from the real needs
Speaker 18: that people actually do have, and the people who desperately
Speaker 18: need help, including quite a proportion of the people with ADHD,
Speaker 18: they might miss out because of the behavior of the
Speaker 18: people down the marder end of the pool, and also
Speaker 18: people who haven't really properly diagnosed.
Speaker 6: Those people.
Speaker 2: Well, one of our listeners has phoning through to say
Speaker 2: that she's in her in her late forties and she's
Speaker 2: a postmenopausal and she said she's just been diagnosed and
Speaker 2: it's made a world of difference to her. She was
Speaker 2: probably misdiagnosed for years and years and years. So she
Speaker 2: was an example of what you're talking about. Professor. We
Speaker 2: appreciate your time talking to us here in Perth.
Speaker 6: Thank you very much, Thank you very much.
Speaker 18: No, I just come quickly on that one. That's an
Speaker 18: example of a genuine case that was missed. But I
Speaker 18: think we're seeing other people who present in the same way.
Speaker 18: They don't get the same benefit either as this lady
Speaker 18: actually has. So we've got to be a lot more
Speaker 18: sophisticated about how we go about this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, thanks you time, professor. Thank you, have
Speaker 2: a good afternoon. Professor Patrick mcgory ao former Astrayan of
Speaker 2: the Year, So he contests this information. Certainly. My experience
Speaker 2: is that it feels like it's an industry, and it
Speaker 2: feels like this doctor shopping and it feels like in
Speaker 2: the subject to a lot of interpretation. So the criteria change.
Speaker 2: The symptom criteria have changed. And as I say, it's
Speaker 2: you know you, if you buy in and you suspend
Speaker 2: your disbelief and believe that it is a condition and
Speaker 2: it's having an impact on your kid or your friends
Speaker 2: or your family, you're buying, you commit yourself to. It
Speaker 2: is still it's difficult to understand if you don't have
Speaker 2: mental health issues yourself. It's not easy and it has
Speaker 2: and it's changing all the time. I made the comment
Speaker 2: that Martin Whiteley was talking about over subscription and over
Speaker 2: diagnosis back in twenty ten. This reports out today and
Speaker 2: it's suggesting exactly what Martin Wichaeley was talking about in
Speaker 2: twenty ten, twenty nine past eleven. We will take a break.
Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll have the guy one of
Speaker 2: the We'll have Tim Redd and he's the chief economist
Speaker 2: from the Housing Industry Association of Australia and cam Laide
Speaker 2: who's with SUMM at Home. So join me in the studio.
Speaker 2: We're going to talk building here in WA.
Speaker 13: Good news and earlier crash in a Bentley Leech Highway
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Speaker 13: tunnel all moving well, the major delays across the CBD.
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Speaker 2: Let's do this on per six pr the stock market report.
Speaker 2: Owe Clear joins us from Shore and Partners. We have
Speaker 2: an update from Telster ohe good morning to you.
Speaker 10: Good morning to you, Simon.
Speaker 26: Telstra held their investor day this morning and they announced
Speaker 26: something called their Connected Future thirty strategy. The Telstra CEO,
Speaker 26: Vicky Brady explained that this five year plan means that
Speaker 26: Telstra will be looking at their business in three layers. Firstly,
Speaker 26: the customer layer, they want to consistently be among the
Speaker 26: top ten strongest brands in Australia. Then there's the network
Speaker 26: layer that's their mobile and fixed line network that they
Speaker 26: want to keep improving. And finally, their infrastructure layer. That's
Speaker 26: the digital infrastructure, things like data centers that are a
Speaker 26: huge grossed area at the moment and Telster looks who
Speaker 26: have completely missed out on that, which has allowed other
Speaker 26: companies to come in and dominate. Telster are hoping to
Speaker 26: increase their returns on invested capital up to ten percent.
Speaker 26: They are currently sitting at eight percent, and we know
Speaker 26: that last week announced that their prices are going up
Speaker 26: for their mobile and broadband customers, and tilts for shares
Speaker 26: today are ahead by three cents. They're now at four
Speaker 26: dollars seventy six. Also going up is the price of copper.
Speaker 26: That's because one of the biggest copper mines in the world,
Speaker 26: in the Democratic Republic of Congo, has temporary closed due
Speaker 26: to earthquake activity and it may go on for a
Speaker 26: few weeks. A company called Ivanhoe, who owned forty percent
Speaker 26: of the Kamua Cocla mine and who are listed in
Speaker 26: Canadas or their shares full by sixteen percent last night.
Speaker 26: But local copper companies are improving today's shares In Sanfire,
Speaker 26: I've seen their shares rally four and a half percent,
Speaker 26: up to eleven dollars fifty three. And Insurance Australia Group
Speaker 26: have said that they have so far received two thy
Speaker 26: five hundred insurance claims relating to the recent flooding in
Speaker 26: New South Wales, but that news hasn't hurt their share price,
Speaker 26: which is up by three cents at eight dollars sixty nine.
Speaker 26: And last night the US markets were closed for their
Speaker 26: Memorial Day holiday, but the European markets were still open
Speaker 26: were stronger after Donald Trump back down from a threat
Speaker 26: to impose a fifty percent tariff on goods from the
Speaker 26: EU starting on the first of June. They now have
Speaker 26: until the ninth of July to come to some sort
Speaker 26: of trade deal. And nowshare market today is stronger as well.
Speaker 26: Your Lord did the head by twenty six points. We're
Speaker 26: at eighty six hundred and fifteen summon.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Owe, have a good afternoon. We'll
Speaker 2: chat again tomorrow. Cheers Bowie, Thank you, Ow and Clear
Speaker 2: from Shaw and Partners. You're listening to Perth today, so
Speaker 2: I'm Obama. We're here until one o'clock after midday today.
Speaker 2: Those television series that you didn't see all the way
Speaker 2: through will have a chat about that. And Craig Bloxam,
Speaker 2: the lead singer and songwriter guitarists from Spy Versus Spy,
Speaker 2: will join me as well. Thank you for listening. Cam
Speaker 2: Lay joins me now. He's the general manager of the
Speaker 2: Summit Homes Group. Thanks for coming into the studio camp,
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me again. Sign it. Yeah, no worries.
Speaker 2: Tim Ridden should be with us in just a moment.
Speaker 2: From the Housing Industry Association of Australia. He's the chief economists.
Speaker 2: Wanted to talk about the housing market and the and
Speaker 2: how we're going in Perth and in and in Western Australia.
Speaker 2: It's one of those sectors industry sectors that does have
Speaker 2: a number of leavers that government can pull to try
Speaker 2: and get more new homes into into the market, but
Speaker 2: it's also down ultimately. So I suppose commercial groups like
Speaker 2: yours and you know all that goes with you, the
Speaker 2: building trades, the chippy's, the roof plumbers, all of that.
Speaker 2: It's a you do need a bit of government assistance
Speaker 2: on this, but at the same time you've got to
Speaker 2: go out and sell these joints and build these joints
Speaker 2: as well, don't you.
Speaker 27: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely so. I think you know, from from
Speaker 27: the industry perspective, you know clearly you know we've had
Speaker 27: a challenging few years and I think you know, the
Speaker 27: good thing that we see for the for the for
Speaker 27: this year and the next four months is an opportunity
Speaker 27: to to really focus on on delivering more housing and
Speaker 27: taking control I guess of some of the issues that
Speaker 27: we've had in the past, so such as supply chain,
Speaker 27: labor and so forth. So it's our responsibility as an
Speaker 27: industry to do that and we're all working hard to deliver.
Speaker 2: Tim ridden Jordan's in the studio now from the Housing
Speaker 2: Industry Association. They're the chief economists today. Tim, good morning,
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. Yeah, no worries, so I'm glad
Speaker 2: you got God here. We're just talking about the leavers
Speaker 2: that federal government and state governments can pull when it
Speaker 2: comes to housing supply and housing stock.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 28: Look from a per perspective, as Cameron's saying that there
Speaker 28: is a huge constraint here, which is just that labor
Speaker 28: force constraint. It's very different WA as to what it
Speaker 28: is in the rest of the country and.
Speaker 2: Everywhere else.
Speaker 28: It is about governments removing themselves from the market. And
Speaker 28: here there are two types of problems. Problems time has
Speaker 28: solved and problems time will solve. And what we're going
Speaker 28: to see over the course of the next five years is,
Speaker 28: at no stage is WA going to deliver enough homes
Speaker 28: to meet demand in any year. So that housing shortage,
Speaker 28: that housing constraint, house price growth, that's going to continue,
Speaker 28: and the volume of homes we build each year will
Speaker 28: also continue. So we're building around about sixteen thousand detached
Speaker 28: homes and a couple of thousand apartments, and by twenty
Speaker 28: thirty will be up to about twenty one thousand detached
Speaker 28: homes and about five six thousand apartments per year, which
Speaker 28: is still not enough to meet the demand for that
Speaker 28: growing population, the growing economy.
Speaker 2: Well, if it's possible, Summer to side Cam and to utim,
Speaker 2: is it possible to describe in fifty words or less
Speaker 2: why WA building companies have been going under in such number.
Speaker 28: Look, I think the answer is twenty nineteen, right, that
Speaker 28: was where the damage was done. Things just got too
Speaker 28: too slow, too low down in the cycle in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 28: With hindsight support at that point in the market would
Speaker 28: have kept more builders and more tradees in Western Australia
Speaker 28: and seen less exit to the East Coast.
Speaker 2: And now we just can't bring them back quick enough.
Speaker 27: Cam your thoughts, Yeah, Look, it's not just localized to
Speaker 27: West Australia either, think you know nationally, The fact is
Speaker 27: the BURM post COVID with the home build a stimulus
Speaker 27: just put a lot of pressure on builders and naturally
Speaker 27: we we work in the in the system of fixed
Speaker 27: price contracts. So as Tim said, when when materials started
Speaker 27: to to increase so significantly, plus the labor constraints hess
Speaker 27: the building went went way up and it just put
Speaker 27: a lot of pressure on fixed price contracts. So look,
Speaker 27: it was something that's been very unfortunate and it's it's
Speaker 27: not great for the industry. There's some terrific builders that
Speaker 27: have been affected, and we're all through, but predominantly through
Speaker 27: the other side. I think probably what we what we're
Speaker 27: consciousself for people these days, is just to make sure
Speaker 27: that they you know, they choose that you choose a
Speaker 27: builder with that financial security. But as an industry we've
Speaker 27: got a bit of work to do to give that
Speaker 27: confidence back this year.
Speaker 2: And again this is an anecdote, and my listeners are
Speaker 2: pretty savvy on whenever we talk about this, and they
Speaker 2: there's a couple of things that they often pick up on.
Speaker 2: It's do we have enough tradees, building trades, people in
Speaker 2: men and women in Perth to improve the delivery of
Speaker 2: new housing stock? Do you physically have enough people? And
Speaker 2: they also ask ask about apprentices and do we have
Speaker 2: enough apprentices in the system? Can we well their anecdotal
Speaker 2: vibe an ancdotal vibe I get from our listeners, can
Speaker 2: you address those Look, the.
Speaker 27: Labor is the biggest issue, and there's a couple of
Speaker 27: things going on and look some of it obviously, trade
Speaker 27: rates are at a very healthy rate. So what that
Speaker 27: means is that some trades work at a certain pace
Speaker 27: and productivity level. So we're certainly dealing with that. Apprentices Yes,
Speaker 27: we need more apprentices look and there's no silver bullet
Speaker 27: to any of this, by the way, So you know,
Speaker 27: obviously we're a mining state, so we have labor sucked
Speaker 27: up there, but again that's quite specialized. Some of the
Speaker 27: infrastructures is starting to come, you know, to completion, so
Speaker 27: that that may free up some from labor for the
Speaker 27: res residential builders. But I think, you know, to to
Speaker 27: the point of what the state com is doing things
Speaker 27: that we've we've needed to look at, is is recruiting
Speaker 27: some over skilled overseas skilled workers, which we're quite involved
Speaker 27: with because you know, again it's not not replacing any job.
Speaker 27: This is incremental labor to make sure that we can
Speaker 27: deliver some of the some of the more important projects.
Speaker 27: So you know, looking after our workforce, looking after our
Speaker 27: existing subcontractor base is really really critical. Encouraging the apprenticeship
Speaker 27: side of things, and that's where government can obviously help
Speaker 27: out with those side of things. I think we've got
Speaker 27: to be really open to the fact that we've got
Speaker 27: to be a bit more diverse in terms of who
Speaker 27: we're attracting from that labor point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I guess the other other see that's the
Speaker 2: voice of cam Laid. You can hear listeners. He's the group,
Speaker 2: the general manager of some at Homes group and Tim
Speaker 2: Riddan's with us as well. And the next question in
Speaker 2: all of that, if people come in from into state
Speaker 2: and overseas, where where are they going to live? Well,
Speaker 2: they always ask.
Speaker 27: Me that that look that people figure things out simon.
Speaker 27: So there's look, there is enough. Yeah, vacancy rates are low,
Speaker 27: but what we're seeing is that people are actually coming
Speaker 27: up with their own solutions to to find to f
Speaker 27: a place to live in the meantime. I mean, you
Speaker 27: can look at it that it's a bit of a
Speaker 27: catch twenty two. But you know what we're seeing is
Speaker 27: it's not holding anything back at the moment. We're just
Speaker 27: we're just really focused on delivering as much as we can,
Speaker 27: I guess as an industry, and also trying to look
Speaker 27: at different different forms of dwellings. So you know, things
Speaker 27: like the planning reform with the ancillary dwellings for example,
Speaker 27: from a granny flat market point of view, you know,
Speaker 27: the government's try to remove red tape down in terms
Speaker 27: of planning to get those ancillary dwellings going, the residential
Speaker 27: design co changes and trying to have improved planning. Reform
Speaker 27: is going to clearly try and help our medium density
Speaker 27: industry because that's really critical. You know, the high identity apartments,
Speaker 27: as Tim we'll talk to, is hard to stack because
Speaker 27: of the cost of labor and materials here. So unless
Speaker 27: they've got a river or an ocean view, they're harder.
Speaker 27: So hence medium density has to be a focus. But
Speaker 27: at the same time, land developers are also working feverishly
Speaker 27: to produce more land. I know all the civil contractors
Speaker 27: are working flat out to make sure that we can
Speaker 27: keep that supply going of land.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks Cam, Tim Reardan from the HIAS perspective. When
Speaker 2: you came into six PR today, Tim, you would have
Speaker 2: seen a huge building development down on the corner which
Speaker 2: is the old State Chemistry laboratories. You would have seen
Speaker 2: the new university being built over in Yagan Square. These
Speaker 2: big projects they suck up government projects. They suck up
Speaker 2: labor too, don't they.
Speaker 28: Yeah, there's no doubt we're competing viercely with all of
Speaker 28: the other industri's mining industry, construction, engineering and trying to
Speaker 28: attract kids to our industry as apprentices. AD's very true
Speaker 28: and it is a little bit of a double edged
Speaker 28: sword for us. We need to build infrastructure in order
Speaker 28: to build new homes and that chicken and battle we're
Speaker 28: having with labor. But all of it comes back to
Speaker 28: four percent unemployment in Australia. So everyone's got a job.
Speaker 28: That's a positive. And for a West Australian perspective, what
Speaker 28: we're looking at now is economic growth that's far more
Speaker 28: stable than what Western Australia has had for in its
Speaker 28: roller coaster ride of the twenty years of mining booms
Speaker 28: and mining bus and when we look ahead, I don't
Speaker 28: see that we have that cycle, that boom bus cycle
Speaker 28: in the five years ahead. So look at more stable
Speaker 28: economic growth. Cam's just gone to apartments there, and that's right.
Speaker 28: Western Australia needs to significantly increase its volume of apartments.
Speaker 28: But there is a problem there that an established apartment
Speaker 28: still hasn't risen in price as rapidly as detached houses. Now,
Speaker 28: house prices in Perth have caught up with Brisbane. You're
Speaker 28: just ten percent cheaper now than Brisbane, and we knew
Speaker 28: that was going to happen. Twenty percent annual growth there
Speaker 28: now back down to ten percent annual growth, and we're
Speaker 28: going to see now in the rest of the country
Speaker 28: dropped the cash right, house prices are going to accelerate up.
Speaker 2: As they accelerate up.
Speaker 28: We will see more new detached home building and eventually
Speaker 28: apartments will start to stack up again. And we do
Speaker 28: have a capacity constraint. There very few apartment builders left
Speaker 28: in Western Australia and as you talk to the East
Speaker 28: Coast apartment builders, yes they don't want to come to
Speaker 28: Perth because there's no way to house their labor when they.
Speaker 2: Do come here.
Speaker 28: But we're now competing more homes in wa than we
Speaker 28: have for a decade and with time that will ease.
Speaker 28: We will see that supply come up and eventually house
Speaker 28: price growth in Perth will start to stabilize, I mean,
Speaker 28: not the double digit growth that you've had for the
Speaker 28: past few years.
Speaker 2: Fourteen and a half minutes to midday, the phone lines
Speaker 2: are open. If you'd like to speak to Tim Riridan
Speaker 2: from the HIA or to Camlaid from Summer, please do.
Speaker 2: We'll take a break. We'll come back in just a
Speaker 2: moment one double three A to eudy two. If you
Speaker 2: have any questions, I will ask you next about existing
Speaker 2: stock that's on the market, because there's an under supply
Speaker 2: of that as well, and other any leavers you think
Speaker 2: the government can tweak to to free up some of
Speaker 2: the existing stock. That might be you might have some
Speaker 2: empty Nesta mums and dads and grandparents living in them.
Speaker 2: Stay listening. Tim Ridden's with us. He's from the Housing
Speaker 2: Industry Association. He's a chief economist and cam Laid from
Speaker 2: the Summer Homes Groovers in the studio. If you want
Speaker 2: to ring in, you can Phil's phone in gents kid
Speaker 2: a Phil far away.
Speaker 6: Yeah hello, yeah go mate.
Speaker 25: To do with the strata, A lot of people don't
Speaker 25: like buying strata is because in apartments, because they have
Speaker 25: to pay austrata see one. And the maintenance of the
Speaker 25: strata companies have appalling record and the fees just increase
Speaker 25: and increase. And then two is a lot of these
Speaker 25: apartments have to be bought off the plan so they
Speaker 25: have a good architect that does the original drawings and
Speaker 25: then the build of fires the architect and gets the
Speaker 25: crappy architect in to finish the project and the project
Speaker 25: is very poor and then the fitties and fixtures are
Speaker 25: changed along the way instead of getting what you've been
Speaker 25: allocated and good fittings. And they come in and they
Speaker 25: get another builder and they bring in all of these
Speaker 25: cheap dixtures and fittings and that's the reason why people
Speaker 25: don't like buying apartments in Perth. And this happens all
Speaker 25: over the Australia and then the apartments start to fall apart.
Speaker 2: Phil, I'll get candor respond to that shouldn't happen.
Speaker 27: But no, it shouldn't happen. And thanks for throwing to
Speaker 27: me on that one.
Speaker 28: I think you'll find that on that front of plans
Speaker 28: changing after sale, you'll find the atual who have made
Speaker 28: some legilative changes over the course of the past few
Speaker 28: years that will significant constrain that. But yes, on those
Speaker 28: strata fees that there is a component, the cost component there.
Speaker 28: It is going to take some time in Perth before
Speaker 28: we see that off the plan apartment phase come through.
Speaker 28: There is another component to that which is the same
Speaker 28: in these coast as well, which is a very low
Speaker 28: level of apartment building because we have forced foreign capital
Speaker 28: out of the market.
Speaker 2: We've taxed foreign capital.
Speaker 28: We allow individuals people to come in, but they're not
Speaker 28: allowed to bring the money with them in order to
Speaker 28: build new homes. Now, at some stage, I expect that
Speaker 28: state governments will realize that those policies are allowing people
Speaker 28: in but not the money to build new homes is counterproductive.
Speaker 28: They get less stamp duty revenue, less economic activity. Less
Speaker 28: homes built make the housing affordability crisis worse, and we
Speaker 28: will see a reversal of those trends just.
Speaker 2: On just on existing versus new housing. Stock. Cam and
Speaker 2: Tim my mate went looked at a place on the
Speaker 2: weekend as a part of a strata complex. Ninety odd
Speaker 2: people went through. Probably sixty people put in an offer
Speaker 2: and it went for one hundred more than it was
Speaker 2: advertised for. And I think you and I might have
Speaker 2: a different opinion on this, Tim. I've always thought when
Speaker 2: people are trying to write size, if people are you know,
Speaker 2: they're empty nesters, kids have moved out, they want to
Speaker 2: buy an apartment, they still want to pay stamp duty.
Speaker 2: I think if that's tweaked, that might free up more stock.
Speaker 2: But you're big on this notion of people buying apartments,
Speaker 2: aren't you and the apartments is the answer.
Speaker 28: No, there's certainly there's a time and place for all
Speaker 28: of that. And the balance here in Western Australia isn't right.
Speaker 28: We are building ninety percent detached and by the end
Speaker 28: of the decade we expect that that's much more of
Speaker 28: a sixty thirty split. But yes, stam duty is a
Speaker 28: core problem because it is a very inefficient tax. A
Speaker 28: taxes people when they're relocating because they're retiring, or they
Speaker 28: need to move for their job, or for their health reasons,
Speaker 28: or for education or employment. It leads to all of
Speaker 28: the poor land use, people staying home longer than what
Speaker 28: they should say Yes, no, stamp duty is the core
Speaker 28: of our problems. Now, we're not going to solve the
Speaker 28: stamp problem in the course of the next few years,
Speaker 28: and it is going to lose us with a situation
Speaker 28: where we still have the same number of houses and
Speaker 28: the population nationally twenty seven million people, ten million homes.
Speaker 28: That's the underlying problem. That is the reason that housing
Speaker 28: affordability is worsing as well. We've got home ownership rates
Speaker 28: in decline.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll come back to you, Cams, I reckon we'll
Speaker 2: go back to where we started, which is labor. That's
Speaker 2: a big one for summer. Isn't it getting enough labor
Speaker 2: or get to that can make that just a sec
Speaker 2: get a in.
Speaker 10: Far away just kind of question. Is there a shortage
Speaker 10: of basic raw materials in Perth? No, it is not.
Speaker 27: The supply chain has definitely improved. There's certainly some challenges
Speaker 27: through the home building grant, and obviously you know we're
Speaker 27: very remote, so we do rely on on importation from
Speaker 27: overseas for some materials, but ultimately all of the stuff
Speaker 27: is all made here, So the material supply chain is
Speaker 27: definitely stabilized and normalized here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, both of you are quite optimistic that
Speaker 2: we might be through some of the things we have
Speaker 2: been seeing insolvencies and issues, and both of you are
Speaker 2: quite optimistic, last half full that he's going to get
Speaker 2: better from here. Michelle bullet as a kindly, the last
Speaker 2: couple of times, last couple of means means I have
Speaker 2: to pay less of my mortgage.
Speaker 28: Tim what's that going to do to the sector. Well,
Speaker 28: you've probably got a couple more of those to come to.
Speaker 28: The inflation went up because of global crisis has come
Speaker 28: back down along with the rest of the world as well.
Speaker 28: And so from everything we can see that CPI is
Speaker 28: coming back within target bounding gain to continue. So one two,
Speaker 28: maybe more rate cuts this year, perhaps a little bit
Speaker 28: more next year. Now, long term, we're not going to
Speaker 28: return to zero point seventy five percent cash rate just
Speaker 28: before the pandemic. It's three point sixty five at the moment.
Speaker 28: We're not getting back to that pre pandemic level because population,
Speaker 28: government expenditure is really high. But nonetheless cut to the
Speaker 28: cash rate. We'll see established prices rise as people can
Speaker 28: borrow more. We do have a shortage of housing stock
Speaker 28: and increasingly that will lend. See people building new home
Speaker 28: building and apartment building will increasingly stack up financially.
Speaker 2: And you also seem you also mentioned renovations that's up
Speaker 2: forty percent.
Speaker 28: Did you say, yeah, renovation market in Perth is the
Speaker 28: strongest in the country. You're seeing renovation activity pick up
Speaker 28: as house prices grow, and here it's even more so.
Speaker 28: The reason for that is that when we hit this
Speaker 28: particular point in the cycle where land prices are rising,
Speaker 28: people make the decision rather than to relocate, they make
Speaker 28: the decision to renovate. And there is another dynamic at
Speaker 28: plan Western Australia, which is the labour force has been
Speaker 28: very much skewed towards new home building and very little
Speaker 28: towards the renovation.
Speaker 2: Other markets.
Speaker 28: Long term we typically see about a third of the
Speaker 28: labour sitting on the renovation side and two thirds on
Speaker 28: new home building, and WA is just still Perth is
Speaker 28: just recalibrating there to get the right structure, so enormous
Speaker 28: six manager high end quality renovations is a very good
Speaker 28: side of the market for.
Speaker 2: A builder to be involved in at the moment. Yep,
Speaker 2: Cam Tim's here to talk at the dime by Summit
Speaker 2: Developments dinner, so you'll get to your a bit more
Speaker 2: of him this evening. I guess a cold shardy thank
Speaker 2: you both for coming in. I really appreciate it, and
Speaker 2: you both of you are optimistic that we've probably seen
Speaker 2: the worst of what we have seen. You came your bullish.
Speaker 27: Yeah, Simon, I think it's a it's a really good point.
Speaker 27: I think. I guess the message to to the listeners
Speaker 27: is that if you're thinking about doing something, do it now.
Speaker 27: There's a bit of a misconception that the prices will
Speaker 27: go down. Prices prices won't go down and certainly the
Speaker 27: cost of building won't go down. So I guess we
Speaker 27: feel that things have stabilized. There's a bit more normalization
Speaker 27: coming into the market. New land prices are starting to
Speaker 27: sort of stabilize.
Speaker 6: For a bit.
Speaker 27: So I think if you're if you're wondering what to do,
Speaker 27: my message would be to do it now and start
Speaker 27: making those plans.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, thank you both for coming in. It's
Speaker 2: a good, good chat to have at this time. I
Speaker 2: feel you've you've filled me with optimism and buoyancy for
Speaker 2: the future. Thanks gents, thank you, thanks for coming in.
Speaker 2: That so Tim Riddan from the Housing Industry Association of Australia.
Speaker 2: He's the chief economist in cam Lane, cam Laide is
Speaker 2: the GM of the Summitt Homes Group. Hope you enjoyed that.
Speaker 2: Three and a half minutes to midday John's and Applecross today. John,
Speaker 2: thanks for setting in your SMS mate or even apartment
Speaker 2: Applecross and couldn't be happy. I would never move back
Speaker 2: to a house to the strata argument. If the people
Speaker 2: who own houses, especially with lawn's pools of church, I'm
Speaker 2: shore fine spend more at Bunnings and mates, you would
Speaker 2: just spend on strata especially most apartments have a gym.
Speaker 2: Thanks John. I wonder if you know those beautiful big
Speaker 2: apartments on Canning Highway that everyone was winging about. Now
Speaker 2: people seem to love. Yeah, thanks John, Thanks for your
Speaker 2: thoughts midday. We'll be back after news.
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Speaker 8: protection for women. Just wrong area of.
Speaker 2: All right, Liam, thank you mate, thanks for call.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 2: Liam doesn't like what's now being called b b KFC
Speaker 2: BKFC as in UFC Beart Knuckle Fighting Championship. My colleague
Speaker 2: Jamie Burnett spotted this a couple of weekends ago that
Speaker 2: this the legislation has been changed to allow that to
Speaker 2: be recognized as a combat sports. The Combat Sports Commission,
Speaker 2: which are based at the department formerly known as DSR
Speaker 2: but now d l G s i C, they will
Speaker 2: make a decision as to whether this event will go forward.
Speaker 2: It sounds like it will. They've changed the couple of
Speaker 2: criteria so the competitors need to be of a certain
Speaker 2: experience and they've up the requirement around doctors being present
Speaker 2: at the bf B KFC when it comes here. Thanks Liam,
Speaker 2: thanks for thoughts mate. And that is echoing a lot
Speaker 2: of cours bonds that we're getting into the show today.
Speaker 2: Get a cal he says, Simon's ironic there yesterday you're
Speaker 2: up to about nangs and there was a question in
Speaker 2: the Daily Quiz in the paper today about the common
Speaker 2: name for Nio sox side funny, love the show and
Speaker 2: the wide range of views on the different issues. All
Speaker 2: the best, thanks Cal good on you Nick Say's Prison
Speaker 2: Bake Break, Prison Break season one and two. Good. Then
Speaker 2: got a little silly They keep any the slammer up.
Speaker 2: A bit of a red flag, isn't it. Love the show? Yeah,
Speaker 2: thanks Ni TV shows that you haven't made it all
Speaker 2: the way through all the series gooda Mark good Simon.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 5: The black List I think maybe to about season six
Speaker 5: or seven from memory, it ended up probably about ten seasons.
Speaker 5: But it just got a bit silly. Too many plot twists,
Speaker 5: the key cast members leaving. They just got a bit silly.
Speaker 2: It was James Spader in all the series, Mark, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think he was Yeah, okay, all right, Blacklist so
Speaker 2: you got to yeah, all right mate, Thank you, cheers,
Speaker 2: thanks for your thoughts. One, double three two. We spoke
Speaker 2: to Brett Christian on Friday. Brett today, if you're listening.
Speaker 2: Brett is the editor of The Post newspaper group started
Speaker 2: with the Subi Post. Of course, Brett told us last
Speaker 2: Friday that he had imported a printing press from Canada
Speaker 2: and he was being built and is being built and
Speaker 2: finished out in the eastern suburbs of Perth. Well, we
Speaker 2: asked Brett if this might lead to more diversity in
Speaker 2: the newspapers that are printed in Perth. Cross are going
Speaker 2: up at the big printing press in Aussie Park owned
Speaker 2: by seven West Media. That you seem to have squeeze
Speaker 2: the Australian Financial Review out of production here in Perth.
Speaker 2: You can still get it online of course, but we
Speaker 2: did speak to Brett this morning just for a text
Speaker 2: message and the door may be open for the Finn
Speaker 2: Review to restart distribution of its print edition in Perth
Speaker 2: and in w A. They might use the new printing
Speaker 2: press that Brett has purchased and built out in the
Speaker 2: Eastern suburbs. This is Brett Christian on newspaper diversity last Friday.
Speaker 29: It's a high speed prestol will print out paper in
Speaker 29: half a day, so that you know there is spare
Speaker 29: spare capacity there. It's we we find that people really
Speaker 29: like their their their local news and and they like it,
Speaker 29: I think more importantly they like to have a variety
Speaker 29: of voices. There's you know, there is there is a
Speaker 29: big centralized media operation in in Perth, in print especially.
Speaker 29: I mean there's there's the cells in the ABC and
Speaker 29: and and a smaller electronic our it's but sales print goes.
Speaker 29: It's it's them or nothing at the moment.
Speaker 2: And we ran a yes no poll on this on Friday,
Speaker 2: would you like to see another major newspaper, major in
Speaker 2: mainstream meeting newspaper in Perth? And the yeses did win
Speaker 2: the day on Friday. And I can tell you that
Speaker 2: the finn Review people and Brett's people have been talking.
Speaker 2: So Brett has reached out to the Australian Financial Review
Speaker 2: and said we're here if you want to use the
Speaker 2: printing press. So that that has happened. The phone lines
Speaker 2: are open. As shows you haven't seen all the way
Speaker 2: through TV series you haven't watched right the way through
Speaker 2: to you know, series ten, Damien, gooday, Hi, good day.
Speaker 11: I've thought I watched the first two seasons.
Speaker 12: I think of Grim.
Speaker 21: Grim yep, yep, and Lost as well, it got a
Speaker 21: little bit weird at.
Speaker 2: The end and Lost. So Grim was Grim is in
Speaker 2: double m isn't it as in the Grim fairy tales?
Speaker 10: Yes, that's right, Sorry, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no waries. That's and lost as well, bowled
Speaker 2: out a lost.
Speaker 12: Yeah, it bailed out a lost.
Speaker 11: It's got a little bit too weird.
Speaker 7: I think I've just watched the first four seasons.
Speaker 2: Mate, Yeah, all right, all right mate, thank you, Damien.
Speaker 2: I think if Rob Letcher is listening, Rob for McCaulay
Speaker 2: here at six PR. He was big on Lost. I
Speaker 2: think one double three a eighty two. Rick says today, Simon,
Speaker 2: I tried to watch the Carlton Football Club television show
Speaker 2: until about series round six. I can't watch it anymore.
Speaker 2: It's just too hard. Thanks Rick. Yeah, that's gone south
Speaker 2: a bit, mate, hasn't it gone sideways south? Whatever you
Speaker 2: want to say. The Prime Minister Anthony Albernizi has fueled
Speaker 2: speculation that Murray Watt is Environment Minister, will will extend
Speaker 2: the Woodside contract the least contract. This was the Prime Minister.
Speaker 2: I think was this yesterday? I am this is yesterday?
Speaker 2: Wasn't it so Albow yesterday? On woodside you can't have renewables,
Speaker 2: I know you have firm in capacity.
Speaker 27: Simple as that.
Speaker 2: You don't to transition through you know, warm thoughts.
Speaker 13: You do it through a concrete proposal, which is the
Speaker 13: expansion of renewables up to eighty two percent of the grid.
Speaker 27: But the way that that occurs is it needs firm
Speaker 27: in capacity.
Speaker 2: Firm in capacity we understand it needs. It needs the
Speaker 2: gas fire power station component before we can transition to renewables,
Speaker 2: which is something that the state and federal labor governments
Speaker 2: do want to do and are committed to. Yeah, there's
Speaker 2: there's I just noticed in on I heard Carl talking
Speaker 2: about this this morning about the wind farms in Japan
Speaker 2: that are lying idle. There's a massive one billion dollar
Speaker 2: wind farm with turbines that are just stalled in Queensland
Speaker 2: as well. But we also hear on at the other
Speaker 2: end of the scale that Narranger upon Sharon arrangerup might
Speaker 2: give as many as two hundred and fifty turbines installed
Speaker 2: down there. And I do hear the argument that these
Speaker 2: turbines are replacing habitat and animals are being displaced or euthanazed.
Speaker 2: I haven't heard that in Wa. I've mostly heard that
Speaker 2: when turbines are going on to low yield agricultural land
Speaker 2: and that farmers want them, but communities are skeptical. They
Speaker 2: want to get some benefit out of these things being built.
Speaker 2: They want some money to go back into the community
Speaker 2: and they also want some power into the local grid.
Speaker 2: We've just have made contact with the Environment Minister's team,
Speaker 2: Murray Watt's team. A decision has not been finalized as
Speaker 2: yet on Woodside, it could be as soon as this Saturday,
Speaker 2: seventeen past twelve when we come back. Andrew Williams, those
Speaker 2: television series that you never quite got all the way through. Yeah,
Speaker 2: thanks listening in. We are borrowing Andrew Williams today of Oli.
Speaker 2: You'll hear him with Oli on Friday on TV streaming,
Speaker 2: and you're hearing the JB on movies on the weekend.
Speaker 2: He joins us now today, Andrew, good to talk, good
Speaker 2: to chat with you. Yeah, both types of music, putting
Speaker 2: the band back other country and Western.
Speaker 10: You me, am, I No, I won't ask that question.
Speaker 3: YEP.
Speaker 2: Three orange whips now, I don't know it started. The
Speaker 2: Handmaid's Tale finishes up today, the finale season six. I
Speaker 2: watched the first two mate, Are you have you been
Speaker 2: on board with Handmaid's Tale throughout?
Speaker 17: No?
Speaker 10: No, I haven't. I made it through episode one and
Speaker 10: it was one of the most significantly harrowing experiences of
Speaker 10: my life that I really struggled to go, Oh, I
Speaker 10: think I want a second dose of that, which is
Speaker 10: not to say that that's not the that's the point, right,
Speaker 10: that's the point, And it probably says a lot more
Speaker 10: about me than it does the show. But I did
Speaker 10: continue to watch it from from there on. But I
Speaker 10: you know, when it gave we've seen them one finished,
Speaker 10: and it gave me an opportunity to have a break,
Speaker 10: I kind of went, yeah, I don't know if I'll come.
Speaker 2: I'll come back to that Series one episode one.
Speaker 10: Yeah, No, I watched series I watched all of series one,
Speaker 10: but after just episode one, I thought this might be
Speaker 10: on borrow time. I reckon because and for me, it's
Speaker 10: a lot of the I don't mind if the show
Speaker 10: is very grim and dark and all the things that
Speaker 10: The Herman's Tail does on purpose, and it was very
Speaker 10: very well made, but it didn't it didn't sort of
Speaker 10: balance it with a watchability that I particularly found in it.
Speaker 10: And what I've found by talking to other people that
Speaker 10: have that have really stuck it out, is that it
Speaker 10: did fall off a little bit of a cliff as
Speaker 10: it went along in terms of quality. But for those
Speaker 10: that have made it to the Bitter End eight years
Speaker 10: later or whatever it is. It's airing on SBITS on
Speaker 10: demand as we speak. It's literally dropping online right now.
Speaker 2: All right, So we're asking our listeners TV series that
Speaker 2: you haven't made it all the way through. I watched
Speaker 2: the first two and I think I've told you this, Andrew.
Speaker 2: I fell asleep one during one episode in series one,
Speaker 2: and when I worked out, the hauled this poor girl
Speaker 2: out of a truck and hangar in the street.
Speaker 3: And I.
Speaker 2: Reacted badly to that, and I had nightmares about it,
Speaker 2: and you know, I was a grown up. It's bloody,
Speaker 2: brutal Handmaid's Tale, isn't it?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 15: It is, it is.
Speaker 10: It is brutal, and I think and a lot of
Speaker 10: shows have struggle, particularly dystopian shows like like The Handmaid's Tale,
Speaker 10: with balancing that with a sort of an appropriate dose
Speaker 10: of hope or sort of reason to keep going. So
Speaker 10: my experience with this, and I won't steal anyone else's
Speaker 10: too many ideas from other people, but that the show
Speaker 10: that represented that most of all for me was The
Speaker 10: Walking Dead. Yes, yes, where I think I got to
Speaker 10: I think it was the infamous Megan episode with a
Speaker 10: baseball bat, and I went, you know what, short.
Speaker 2: Too, exactly the same episode. You and I are the
Speaker 2: same bloke. Yeah, the barbed wire wrapped around the baseball bat. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and the world was closing in and I couldn't see
Speaker 2: any ray of sunshine or hope. It made me despondent, Andrew.
Speaker 10: Yeah, and I think there was a point, and I
Speaker 10: think it's only got worse as the show went along,
Speaker 10: But there was a point where I realized that all
Speaker 10: of the almost all of the original characters that I
Speaker 10: had watched were now dead.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, and.
Speaker 10: Not all of them, but almost all of them. And
Speaker 10: I kind of started going, well, what's the point of
Speaker 10: any of this, Like, if it's not an incredibly watchable show,
Speaker 10: which it certainly wasn't by that point, I just kind
Speaker 10: of went, I just don't know if I can have
Speaker 10: this level of misery in my life on a regular basis.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Brendan, Brendan agrees to you and I the Blacklist
Speaker 2: and Walking Dead season nine. I didn't get to season nine.
Speaker 2: I got the four or five I think about. Yeah, silly,
Speaker 2: but there you go. Thanks Brendan, appreciate it. Now we've
Speaker 2: got an off topic question from Jeff and Bayswater. Who
Speaker 2: is who is the poster child? Off the topic questions today?
Speaker 2: Jeff oh Hi Simon. Yeah, I was just a little
Speaker 2: bit confused day.
Speaker 6: But I'd like to know.
Speaker 2: I like to know, Andrew, I've actually got.
Speaker 5: Someone sent it to me Scarface two.
Speaker 26: Is that actually going to be a movie or is
Speaker 26: that going to be a series?
Speaker 2: Or is it true?
Speaker 10: I have not heard anything about this, I as there
Speaker 10: are there is quite a lot of fake trailers on
Speaker 10: the internet. I don't know if anyone has sent you
Speaker 10: anything along those, but I can't see anything from any
Speaker 10: reputable source that indicates that there is a Scarface two
Speaker 10: in the works. There is a Scarface remake that was
Speaker 10: going to be made at some stage, but that has
Speaker 10: been that's been in development for a long time. It
Speaker 10: doesn't seem to be moving forward. So I don't know
Speaker 10: that i'd be pinning anything to your calendar at this point.
Speaker 2: Just the room you heard at the Basewater Hotel, I suspect, Jeff, yeah,
Speaker 2: under the influence, Yeah very much, all right, mate, thank you, one,
Speaker 2: double three, A two. That TV series, he didn't make
Speaker 2: it all the way through. Andrew and I have been
Speaker 2: the same on Handmaid's Tail, and also on The Walking Dead,
Speaker 2: which just got really really tough to watch. I'm what,
Speaker 2: I am struggling to go back to a bit and
Speaker 2: I do like I do like the books. Is Reacher
Speaker 2: I keep sort of oh yeah, bailing out to get
Speaker 2: out of that. Reaches hasn't quite grabbed me.
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's interesting because that's only at season three. That's
Speaker 10: not a great That's not a great sign, is it.
Speaker 10: I've got one from sort of the right over the
Speaker 10: other side of the fence. I mean, all the shows
Speaker 10: we've talked about have been really grim, violent kind of shows.
Speaker 10: I gave up on Glee. That's I think. At the
Speaker 10: end of season three, I sort of had an epiphany
Speaker 10: and I realized that what I was watching was very bad,
Speaker 10: and it had been bad for about a season, and
Speaker 10: I was still coasting on the glow of those first
Speaker 10: couple of seasons, and then it sort of dissipated on
Speaker 10: me without warning, and I suddenly realized that I was
Speaker 10: wasting my time.
Speaker 2: You do you like that, John, don't you? Ordinarily?
Speaker 10: Yeah, Look, as everyone knows, I love a show tune
Speaker 10: and I love a musical, and I was I was,
Speaker 10: I was right into it for the first couple of seasons,
Speaker 10: and then there was Yeah. I remember the moment quite vividly,
Speaker 10: but I just went, nah, I'm done, I'm out, I'm moving,
Speaker 10: I'm moving on to something else. I'm spending my time
Speaker 10: on a show that respects it.
Speaker 15: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Nah, I got to two episodes to go in Squid Game.
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, yeah, season one?
Speaker 2: Yeah right, and yeah, now I need to go and
Speaker 2: do some voluntary work somewhere or make better.
Speaker 10: Get a positive contribution to society. Instead, I've got one more.
Speaker 10: And again I don't mean to steal one for other people,
Speaker 10: but the House of Cards, the American version, really really
Speaker 10: ran off the rails hard to particularly, sort of like
Speaker 10: season four or five, and just completely lost its way,
Speaker 10: and then obviously beyond that things only got worse somehow
Speaker 10: from there. So yeah, So that one was one where
Speaker 10: I was like, again, I just realized that. And I
Speaker 10: think this is a thing with a lot of streaming
Speaker 10: shows as well, is that they don't have any limits
Speaker 10: on time, so they don't edit stuff. And editing is
Speaker 10: the great lost skill of making television. There is absolutely
Speaker 10: no reason that anything anyone makes ever to be longer
Speaker 10: than it needs to be, and yet they do it
Speaker 10: all the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's I hadn't thought of that will. And
Speaker 2: when we were discussing this this morning with my hard
Speaker 2: working team, game, inevitably the topic of Game of Thrones
Speaker 2: came up, and that that very odd last season where
Speaker 2: we got to you can actually physically see and feel
Speaker 2: when the book stopped, and then there were four more
Speaker 2: episodes where people go, what do we do now?
Speaker 10: Yep? This is my this is my catchphrase around television,
Speaker 10: which is here, we always get into trouble when we
Speaker 10: run out of book, and this is the concern that
Speaker 10: I have around Shogun when that comes back to season two,
Speaker 10: because there's no more book. I've run out of a book.
Speaker 10: It's happened to a lot of other shows, and I
Speaker 10: think you can you're absolutely right. With Game of Thrones.
Speaker 10: There was just it's like different people started making the
Speaker 10: show as soon as they ran out of book, and
Speaker 10: they were they're real trouble. But that is when I'm
Speaker 10: glad I saw through to the end, if only for
Speaker 10: the discourse, the discussion around it that I can participate in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was all very weird. It was so so
Speaker 2: interconnected and so clever, and then it's just yeah, it's
Speaker 2: it's yeah, it was the Mate compiled by Chickens the last.
Speaker 10: Four Yes, I can give you one show that I
Speaker 10: reckon almost everyone will have had this at some stage.
Speaker 10: I suspect there is a show that I think almost
Speaker 10: everyone has given up on at some point, and at
Speaker 10: that time will differ depending on the person. Some people
Speaker 10: may be sticking with it, but I reckon almost everyone
Speaker 10: would have a point at which they gave up on
Speaker 10: The Simpsons because it's been you know, it's thirty five seasons.
Speaker 10: That's just a lot for one human to watch, and
Speaker 10: so I think I think people will have had this
Speaker 10: experience with that show at some stage as well, and
Speaker 10: no doubt mileage will vary.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that's that's a really good one. And it's
Speaker 2: nice to know. It's nice to know that, you know,
Speaker 2: maybe what's that Atlantis still exists the yetty It's nice
Speaker 2: to know they're still out there, maybe the filer scene,
Speaker 2: and there's still episodes as the Symptoms out there that
Speaker 2: we haven't seen. If I can, yeah, draw a very
Speaker 2: long bow in the mountains somewhere yet there's just a
Speaker 2: lot of it. Yeah, there is, Hey, mate, brilliant, really nice.
Speaker 2: It's all to you. We'll hear you on Friday with
Speaker 2: Oliver and on the weekends with our mate Jamie Burnett.
Speaker 10: Absolutely great chat to you.
Speaker 2: Thanks having see mate Andrew Williams who back in the day,
Speaker 2: back in the day used to be a producer on
Speaker 2: this show. Andrew Williams fine fine producery was as well.
Speaker 2: But now he's he's found his mark now doing what
Speaker 2: he does our yes, no question today? Is the sideline
Speaker 2: behavior of parents in junior sports still an issue? What
Speaker 2: he's seeing the YESTERDA Twenty four of the nos are thirteen.
Speaker 2: This on the back of on Sunday at a junior
Speaker 2: soccer match under eleven's we think under eleven Mini rus
Speaker 2: up At Mindari, a bloke allegedly from the Whitford City
Speaker 2: Football Club, forty two year old you've heard about him
Speaker 2: in our news managed to grab hold of an eleven
Speaker 2: year old players neck and we'll have his day in
Speaker 2: court in June. They are the allegations. Gooday, Gary, Gary,
Speaker 2: there did.
Speaker 30: I farmnandre a? My line Blue Bloods with Tom Seller
Speaker 30: probably watched the first three series and then it's started
Speaker 30: repening itself. It's sort of a bit repetitious.
Speaker 2: That's Thanks, Garrett. What era is that? Mate? When was
Speaker 2: that shown.
Speaker 30: In the eighties?
Speaker 29: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, all right ninety? Yeah, thanks Gary, choose mate twenty
Speaker 2: eight minutes to one o'clock on the show. Next, Craig Bloxham,
Speaker 2: who is the singer, songwriter, lead vocalist, league guitarist in
Speaker 2: Spy Versus Spy. Stay listening, Carl. The k Issus is
Speaker 2: his handmade's tail. Heyes, it dropped off, but this last series,
Speaker 2: number six redeemed itself and he's really good. Exclamation mark.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Carl. Thanks for you, correspondence. Let's go to
Speaker 2: our new droom here at six PR. John Nichols, good afternoon.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 4: Simon, good afternoon. West Australians who are members of the
Speaker 4: Stolen Generations will receive eighty five thousand dollars each under
Speaker 4: an addressed scheme that'll take effect the end of the month.
Speaker 4: Stolen Generations redress schemes were recommended in the nineteen ninety
Speaker 4: seven Bringing Them Home Report. Until now all states and
Speaker 4: territories but w Way and Queensland had announced their schemes.
Speaker 2: The man who.
Speaker 4: Sexually assaulted and murdered an eight year old girl in
Speaker 4: a shopping center bathroom in canning Vale has been denied
Speaker 4: parole for a third time. Dante Arthur's was initially jailed
Speaker 4: for thirteen years, but the state's homicide laws have since
Speaker 4: been overhauled to allow such offenders to be jailed for life.
Speaker 4: It's been a house fire in Perth's North that's led
Speaker 4: to a smoke alert being issued for the entire suburb.
Speaker 4: Firefighters were called to the home and clerks in about
Speaker 4: twenty to eleven. The fire was put out a short
Speaker 4: time later. No one's been hurt. Alexipoprin is among three
Speaker 4: Australians through to round two of the French Open, and
Speaker 4: Collingwood will be bolstered by the return of several star
Speaker 4: players for Fridays of Blockbuster Clash with Hawthorne at the
Speaker 4: g Darcy Moore's Steel Side Bottom at Lockey Shultz, Scott
Speaker 4: Pendlebury and Bobby Hill will all be available. Eighteen degrees
Speaker 4: at the moment, nine overnight, mostly sumy and twenty three
Speaker 4: tomorrow more news one.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, John, appreciate that. And we'll look
Speaker 2: at Nichols Niche tomorrow. John mightn't being a Wednesday, Yes
Speaker 2: we will, we will. We are looking forward to it
Speaker 2: me too. Yeah, thank you John, John Nichols. We're lucky
Speaker 2: to have him our news reader here through the afternoon.
Speaker 2: You hear John's work on Perth Live with Oliver. Do
Speaker 2: you remember this song, folks? Do you remember it as
Speaker 2: straight and classic big Sound? Formed in nineteen eighty one,
Speaker 2: Spy versus Spy. They've been called lots of things over
Speaker 2: the years. They are now the r Spies, Craig Blots
Speaker 2: the gun lead man, front man for spies and the
Speaker 2: our spies joined us now good they Craig good to
Speaker 2: talk to you.
Speaker 3: Hey, God, how does everybody over in wa going well?
Speaker 2: Mate? Going absolutely beautiful, beautifully. Can't wait to see you
Speaker 2: guys over here in early June. I'll let people know
Speaker 2: how they can come and see you. Big sound for
Speaker 2: three piece, wasn't it, mate? When you look back and good?
Speaker 2: I say this to all our gun guests, good songs,
Speaker 2: hold up, Oh, thank you.
Speaker 3: Look, thank you very much. We were in the right
Speaker 3: place at the right time, I think. But there is
Speaker 3: something special about a three piece band in the sunset.
Speaker 3: You've got nowhere to hide, so you've really got to
Speaker 3: come up with the goods. And we were always very
Speaker 3: socially minded, So we just wrote songs about what we
Speaker 3: saw around us and social issues and the politics of
Speaker 3: the time. And yeah, yeah, spies were a great part
Speaker 3: of my life. I feel grateful to have been part
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 2: You did have a cracked any or that that was,
Speaker 2: you know, political, political staff, homelessness, credit cards, all, all
Speaker 2: of that was in the mix on Harry's Reasons and
Speaker 2: on AO modified TV version, which are two of my
Speaker 2: favorite albums. Here. You had to go there stuff, didn't you.
Speaker 3: We did because we felt strongly that the world was
Speaker 3: kind of going topsy turvy. Like one of the lines
Speaker 3: from Credit Cards is half a world with credit cards
Speaker 3: and the other half the left to starve. And sadly,
Speaker 3: I think it's still kind of relevant today, which is
Speaker 3: why we've done the ass Bys. We've just taken all
Speaker 3: the songs from a long time ago and reimagined them
Speaker 3: with a bit of a mongrel rock rock sound.
Speaker 2: Hey, Craig, I saw your live a lot of times.
Speaker 2: You were always sort of two or three on the bill,
Speaker 2: and that's sort of where you've seen the fit wasn't
Speaker 2: it was just you just smash it out for an hour.
Speaker 2: It seemed that you had all that live energy that
Speaker 2: was a big part of Spies back then, wasn't it.
Speaker 3: Well, well, it really was. We're full of, full of,
Speaker 3: full of the power and the passion to quote the oils.
Speaker 3: But it's going to be the same thing this weekend.
Speaker 3: I haven't changed that much apart from getting older, and
Speaker 3: I've got two great musicians with me. We've got Chris
Speaker 3: Lowe on drums and he pounds the crap out of
Speaker 3: his drums. And we've got a young Maori guy on guitar,
Speaker 3: t Koy Tarawa from New Zealand and of course they've
Speaker 3: got a very big reggae scene over in New Zealand
Speaker 3: and he's brought brought that to the band, which we
Speaker 3: recorded on our debut album Unit Again, which came out
Speaker 3: last year and it went top ten in the Arian
Speaker 3: sharts for a week, but it was top ten, top ten,
Speaker 3: top ten.
Speaker 2: We just played I'll get Max to play Don't Tear
Speaker 2: It Down from the Asspy, so the reggae version of
Speaker 2: the of the epic Don't Tear It Down. Have a listen,
Speaker 2: here we go. That's cool mate, that works as a
Speaker 2: still nice and loud maybe thank you.
Speaker 3: We had a lot of fun recording and it's just
Speaker 3: like the Spies. It's just completely different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah it is. Yeah, it's the same, but it's different.
Speaker 2: How's it going down?
Speaker 12: Live?
Speaker 3: Mate?
Speaker 2: And the pipe sound good? The voice is holding up.
Speaker 3: Thank you, the voice is holding up. It's a miracle,
Speaker 3: but but it is. We're going down really well. A
Speaker 3: lot of people have been very, very skeptical because a
Speaker 3: lot of people hear the word reggae and they go,
Speaker 3: I don't really.
Speaker 19: Like that kind of music.
Speaker 3: But all of the fans of the music who come
Speaker 3: and see the band, they always come up afterwards and say, look,
Speaker 3: I wasn't sure what to expect, but you guys are
Speaker 3: absolutely pumping because I've got a couple of younger guys
Speaker 3: with me, so they can actually play a lot better
Speaker 3: than I can. So I'm relying on them. The Spies.
Speaker 3: We just get up there like the old Spies did,
Speaker 3: and we just pound the hell out of everything and
Speaker 3: it's a lot of fun. And our old time fans
Speaker 3: really are saying that it's just a trip down down
Speaker 3: memory lane.
Speaker 2: What are you playing? What is when are you playing?
Speaker 2: On that track?
Speaker 3: I play the bass and I sing and I jump
Speaker 3: around like an idiot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the bass, They make the Steve Kilby once told me, Craig,
Speaker 2: he says, I like the bass because you make the
Speaker 2: whole building shake, you make dust come out of the roof.
Speaker 3: That's right, good on you, Steve Kilby. He's written some
Speaker 3: great Australian songs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he has of you, mate. Our spires are playing
Speaker 2: the Amplifier on May the thirtieth, the River Hotel, Mate
Speaker 2: River on May the thirty first, and the Indian Ocean
Speaker 2: Hotel on June the first, which is absolutely perfect down
Speaker 2: there with the Ocean Hotel where the carpet sticks to
Speaker 2: your shoes. Craig, you'll like that, Hey, may just done.
Speaker 2: Just going back to some of the and this is
Speaker 2: I was talking to my gang about this this morning.
Speaker 2: When when I when I start my car and I
Speaker 2: plug my phone in through the through the auxiliary chord
Speaker 2: into the thing, it plays songs in alphabetical order that
Speaker 2: I got stored. The instrumental version of AO modified comes
Speaker 2: on every time, every time me and the kitchen in
Speaker 2: the car. It's every single time we hear that that
Speaker 2: song as soon as we get in the how Good
Speaker 2: and the other one. I wanted to ask you one
Speaker 2: of your more whimsical songs is use your Head and
Speaker 2: are awesome? Great song? Was that bloke real? Was that
Speaker 2: the bloke who's late for work, drunk driving, losing job?
Speaker 2: Is that a real bloke?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it was me actually I wrote about me.
Speaker 3: I've lost my license three times. Look, let's not go
Speaker 3: into the silly things that we've done, but everyone does
Speaker 3: silly things and that was just kind of my song.
Speaker 3: We're writing about. Please don't be like me, don't be silly.
Speaker 3: Use your head?
Speaker 2: How many times have you? Well that, well, that that
Speaker 2: is a revelation. I thought you were going to say, no,
Speaker 2: he's just a hybrid makeup of all my loser mates.
Speaker 2: But it was auto biographical.
Speaker 3: Three times mate, I've lost my license three times. So yeah,
Speaker 3: but we are really looking forward to playing at the
Speaker 3: Indian Nation and well all of the gigs. We're going
Speaker 3: to play the Golden Mile as well, which we wrote
Speaker 3: about Calgooley and we're just going to have a great time.
Speaker 3: The band's really firing and everyone can look forward to
Speaker 3: a great night.
Speaker 2: Really good to talk to you, mate, And thanks to
Speaker 2: Bob Gordon to organized the chat and the good fellow
Speaker 2: Bob the former editor's Great Express Magazine Here in perfect
Speaker 2: massive out of the w music scene. Nice to chat
Speaker 2: to you, Craig. Go Well, it's the May the thirtieth,
Speaker 2: the Amplify the River Hotel in mart River, May thirty first,
Speaker 2: and down at the Union Hotel on during the first
Speaker 2: Cheers mate, good to talk to you.
Speaker 3: Thank you very very much. It's this weekend. See you
Speaker 3: there everybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, cheers mate, Thank you. Craig Bloxham Ripper. They were
Speaker 2: good band, Spies and as I say, they sort of
Speaker 2: fitted in a second or third on the bill, didn't they.
Speaker 2: And they were a countdown band nineteen eighty one. They
Speaker 2: came out, they played some big gigs, they played some
Speaker 2: little gigs. Here's another sample of so we played Don't
Speaker 2: Tear It Down the Reggae the R Spires version, and
Speaker 2: here's here's credit cards big bass sound there from Craig Bloxham.
Speaker 2: The Spy versus Spires are now called the R Spires
Speaker 2: is and the Reggae Spires, and that here this weekend.
Speaker 2: Go and see them May. By the sound of this,
Speaker 2: you'll have a good night. How good reggae crossover thirty
Speaker 2: minutes to one o'clock. We'll come back in and just
Speaker 2: a moment let you know how our poul is going today.
Speaker 2: Junior sport parental behavior on the sidelines, yes or no?
Speaker 2: Are you concerned about it?
Speaker 7: God?
Speaker 2: Our caller of the day today win a couple of
Speaker 2: tickets to go and see Western Falls playing the British
Speaker 2: and Irish Lions when they're here later next month. So
Speaker 2: that's our call of the day prize. We'll give that
Speaker 2: away in just a moment. It's nine and a half
Speaker 2: minutes to one o'clock. Is the sideline behavior of parents
Speaker 2: in junior sports still an issue? What are you seeing
Speaker 2: rather than what you're reading or hearing? What are you seeing?
Speaker 2: And the yes is are twenty seven? The nose a sixteen?
Speaker 2: So reasonably balanced today in our poll Oli. We'll talk
Speaker 2: to Olie in a moment just to find out what
Speaker 2: he does have on his show this afternoon between one
Speaker 2: on five and Perth Live a bit more on the
Speaker 2: Northwest Shelf. So mister Albinizi has flagged potentially that the
Speaker 2: lease will be extended. The naysayers are lining up today
Speaker 2: and this week with their thoughts, which they're entitled to do,
Speaker 2: of course, as long as they invade Meg O'Neil's home.
Speaker 2: Trespass on a home and put paint on a fence
Speaker 2: in a wall and do all of that because that's illegal.
Speaker 2: The Conservation Council WA and other environment groups will host
Speaker 2: a demonstration at Parliament House today from five thirty to
Speaker 2: seven thirty. So for them, this is a clear public
Speaker 2: rejection from these groups of wood sized Northwest Shelf gas
Speaker 2: plant expansion and its long term impacts they say on climate,
Speaker 2: nature and First Nations culture. So there get together this
Speaker 2: afternoon at Parliament from five thirty. Will will involve giant
Speaker 2: inflatable caricature puppets, banners and performances by their drummers for
Speaker 2: climate action for those of you who do want to go.
Speaker 2: But it certainly seemed albo yesterday. See the flag that
Speaker 2: it's going to get a green light, whether it be
Speaker 2: watered down or whether it be pull pared back a
Speaker 2: little bit as in the term of the lease, or
Speaker 2: there are other parts of it. But it looks like murray,
Speaker 2: what is going to make a decision. We had heard
Speaker 2: from Chamber of Minerals and sorry AMEIC the Association of
Speaker 2: Mining explor Exploration and what's the sea in that olie
Speaker 2: A cool people, cool people they met with a company.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thanks Anne. Thanks thank god for Australian mining exploration,
Speaker 2: cool people, thank god for really organized smart producers. Thank
Speaker 2: you Anne. Thank you Sean good a mate. What have
Speaker 2: you got for us today?
Speaker 23: This afternoon, Bowie, we will be talking to a Perth
Speaker 23: principle who has just published a letter to parents reminding
Speaker 23: them to parents. Yeah, okay, so there's just recently been
Speaker 23: a international conference for boys' schools where it's being described
Speaker 23: as a global epidemic that basically parents have forgotten how
Speaker 23: to parents and the children are the ones who rule
Speaker 23: the roost at home.
Speaker 2: Mom and dad don't like to.
Speaker 23: Say no to their sons in this example anymore, and
Speaker 23: that it is becoming increasingly difficult for teachers to be
Speaker 23: able to set boundaries and put rules in place. Now, Bowie,
Speaker 23: we've been hearing that on the talkback lines anecdotally for
Speaker 23: quite some time. But if we're now getting our educators
Speaker 23: having to get to the point where they are the
Speaker 23: ones who have to write to the parents to remind
Speaker 23: them that they need to do their job, but hold
Speaker 23: up there into the bargain, is it it just a
Speaker 23: generational change? Obviously, I'm a young dad and I know
Speaker 23: how I was brought up by my parents and saw
Speaker 23: how they were brought up by their parents. This kind of,
Speaker 23: you know, soft parenting approach, where you know your son
Speaker 23: or your daughter might make the decisions about when they
Speaker 23: want to go to bed, or what television show or
Speaker 23: what they might want to stream on their iPad. We
Speaker 23: all live in a society that he is governed by
Speaker 23: rules and regulations. When you get out of school, it's
Speaker 23: not like your parents are going to be bringing up
Speaker 23: the boss to say, you.
Speaker 2: Know, oh can you help Holly out here?
Speaker 23: You know, he doesn't really want to turn up today.
Speaker 23: Oh why because Simon spoke to him Paula yesterday. You know,
Speaker 23: that's the sort of breed of children we're bringing up
Speaker 23: these days.
Speaker 2: A missive parenting. I was just a pet on my screen, Oliver.
Speaker 2: I wonder if their educator wrote to me. I don't
Speaker 2: know if I've forgotten had a parent, because I'm not
Speaker 2: sure I evern knew how to do it in the
Speaker 2: first time, just kind of made it up. Are you
Speaker 2: doing good day to day? Thank you?
Speaker 23: So? Are you fair?
Speaker 2: And they say he's not supposed to be mates with
Speaker 2: your kids?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 23: Look, I think the difficulty of obviously telling your child
Speaker 23: no can it at first? You know, when you've got
Speaker 23: to raise your voice at them or you've got to
Speaker 23: get them into trouble.
Speaker 2: You might not feel good about it, but hey, you're
Speaker 2: doing it for their own good. You do it for
Speaker 2: their own benefit. Yeah, and it's about respect for others
Speaker 2: to absolutely what else do you have for us? All
Speaker 2: of us? So thanks for lending us Andrew Williams for
Speaker 2: a five minutes. He's good, isn't he? He's very good.
Speaker 23: Paul, some h is coming in the Consumer Protector, So
Speaker 23: I'm looking forward to have a chat to Paul and
Speaker 23: Mark guyer MG on the show today Origin Obviously tomorrow night,
Speaker 23: I've in sun Corpse Stadium, will be calling the match
Speaker 23: live here on six PR.
Speaker 2: Are you picking New Southwest? Yeah, Heart or Head?
Speaker 23: I think Head because Heart, actually that sounds odd. Heart
Speaker 23: wants to go for Queensland because they're in Brisbane and
Speaker 23: I was just there for Magic Ground and I kind
Speaker 23: of got caught up in the buzz of just how
Speaker 23: Queensland love rugby league so much. So I'd love to
Speaker 23: see Queensland and at Suncorp Stadium. On paper though, I
Speaker 23: think your South As could give them an absolute hiding handsing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you never know. That's a really bad origin,
Speaker 2: right queens.
Speaker 23: They always turn up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was true. Now the sideline behavior of parents
Speaker 2: in junior sport is it's still an issue. You have
Speaker 2: the final say on this, Oliver.
Speaker 1: But yes, is it twenty eight and the Noser sixteight.
Speaker 2: You're worried about it or mate? Yes at twenty eight
Speaker 2: and the Nosa sixteen. Thank you, Oliver. I'll be listening
Speaker 2: to I'll be listening this afternoon between one and five.
Speaker 2: It's four minutes to one. Back in a moment, Cole says,
Speaker 2: see at the any Notion Hotel Bowie love the Spies,
Speaker 2: Me too, Cole, thank you, mate. Call of the day
Speaker 2: today's Luise and her ADHD diagnosis. Lou thanks for ringing
Speaker 2: two tickets see the British Irish Lions versus the Western
Speaker 2: Forces and the twenty eighth of June. You set top
Speaker 2: the stadium your tickets and ticket Master they're selling fast.
Speaker 2: Olli Peterson up next with perth Lie