S1: Listener Keke Palmer acknowledges the traditional owners and custodians of
S1: the land in which we're recording this podcast, the Eula
S1: Wilson clan of the Boomerang, who were a part of
S1: the Kulin nation. We pay our respects to our elders,
S1: past and present, and extend our respect to Aboriginal and
S1: Torres Strait Islander peoples today.
S2: Welcome to the Keke pod. Your name on the stuff
S2: that matters, but also the stuff that doesn't.
UU: Welcome, guys. Hi.
S1: Hello. I have something to tell you. I got a
S1: very funny. So I have Google alerts on for you
S1: and Keke and me. So basically the point of it is.
S1: So then if anyone writes anything really bad, if there's
S1: any crisis, we know we get one on Twitter. We're
S1: on to it, not drama. We have to fix it,
S1: but we're on to it. The other day, I got
S1: a notification that you were in an article, and the
S1: title of the article was The Old money Haircut you're
S1: about to see everywhere it was, it's on Mamma mia!
S1: And I just laughed my head off because I never
S1: thought of your haircut like an old money haircut. It's funny, though, because.
S1: But then I know I can't unsee it.
S2: Yeah, I know, I.
S1: Know, I can't unsee it. What did.
S2: They say? I'm like the Meredith. Blake.
S1: Hang on, let me.
S2: I'm giving Meredith Blake from. Um. No, not it takes two.
S2: What's it called? Oh, parent trap. Parent trap? They said
S2: everyone's doing it. So if it's a cut that you've
S2: been wanting to do for a long time, now's the time. Yes.
S1: Okay, so it's called the old money, Bob, for anyone
S1: that doesn't know what it means. Yeah, it's basically when.
S1: So old money versus new money. Old money is like
S1: when money is passed down from like generation families, generational
S1: wealth generation. And then new money is when like the
S1: person didn't come from money but has made their own money,
S1: whereas old money is from their parents basically, then probably
S1: from their parents, parents, etc.. 100%. Yeah. Anyway, yeah. So
S1: that is just so funny. I just when I saw that,
S1: I'm like, oh my God, I've never looked at your
S1: mom in that way. But there we go.
S2: Yeah.
S1: The rise of the old money, Bob. Anyway, so aside
S1: from the Bob. Yeah, you have got news for us.
S2: I mean, I we have news for that. We have
S2: news for the people. Um, so basically we have designed
S2: our very first collaboration through Kik with an activewear label.
S2: And that activewear label is stacks. So first of all,
S2: welcome to the Kik Squad Stacks and Stacks community. We
S2: are so excited about this collection. We designed it along
S2: with Don Robinson, their founder and creative director, and it
S2: was just a breeze. Can I say, working with this team,
S2: they are incredible at what they do, and it was
S2: so fun to put together a 15 piece collection, keeping
S2: in mind inclusivity, quality and comfort of course, for every piece.
S2: So we want to empower you to move without holding
S2: you back. You want to feel comfortable in whatever movement
S2: that makes you feel good, or even just wearing it
S2: every day. We love wearing our activewear when we're not
S2: actually being active, and that is what this collection is
S2: all about. So we want it to be here for you,
S2: to support you when you need it most. And it
S2: is also a reminder that you are enough just as
S2: you are, which it literally says on some of the collection.
S2: Not so.
S1: Excited. And the color? It is a beautiful pink. It's
S1: inspired by our one of our pink rooms, our Pilates room.
S1: That's where the kind of the inspiration started. And I
S1: think as well it's important to talk about we have
S1: never done a Keke activewear collaboration before, and the reason being,
S1: it just hasn't felt right. I don't know how to
S1: explain it. It's like there was just like, we've been
S1: asked to do it quite a few times and we
S1: just didn't have the the alignment wasn't there. And so
S1: to have a brand that we felt, we kind of thought, no,
S1: it's time now. And stacks are so inclusive as a brand.
S1: We went to their show. So this has been in
S1: the works for quite a long time. And right before we,
S1: we kind of work through it and it was just
S1: the most this runway they did was the most inclusive
S1: ever that I've ever seen. We've both ever seen. And
S1: it was like, this is and the quality of their
S1: products is just fantastic. Yeah. The design elements that go
S1: into them, the way they fit, the way they look,
S1: I mean, I'm wearing a bodysuit from them right now. I,
S1: we just love it. And so we thought, why not.
S1: Like it's time. It's time. And so yeah, we're so
S1: it's such a special collection. We have we were a
S1: part of the whole design process to make sure it was.
S1: I mean, we speak to all of you all the
S1: time about like what you're looking for and in your
S1: activewear and how you want things to fit. And so
S1: we encapsulated all of that. And Don is an amazing, like,
S1: creative genius with his designs. And yeah, it's really exciting.
S2: Yeah. So it is dropping Friday the 9th of February.
S2: So it will be available for you guys to purchase in.
S2: And we're just so excited and so keen to hear
S2: your thoughts. And we cannot wait to see you guys
S2: kicking it in the gear and just wearing all the merch.
S2: It's a very, very exciting collaboration for us, so we
S2: hope you're okay. Okay. Lousy. It is the end of January.
S2: You know, and I feel like this is the time
S2: of the year, not just. I feel like I know
S2: the research backs this, but this is the time of
S2: the year where a lot of us have either already
S2: let go or are thinking about letting go of our
S2: goals that we may have said at the start of January.
S2: So we wanted to check in with each other and
S2: talk about that because we've set our own goals. And
S2: I'm very interested to hear what you've set for yourself, Lucy. Um,
S2: and then also just say to anyone listening in, if
S2: you are in that moment and you are feeling like
S2: the motivation is dropping, we are here to remind you
S2: that it is okay if you're feeling that way, but
S2: we are going to all get through this part together
S2: because I feel like it's after the first couple of weeks.
S2: And it's the same with even with our run programs
S2: and other programs in general. Once you get past the
S2: first couple of weeks where you might have the motivation
S2: because of the adrenaline of setting something and being excited
S2: about it, but then it might get a little bit tough.
S2: Maybe it's like physically tough, or maybe it's just harder
S2: to fit in. It can be really easy to kind
S2: of think of every excuse to to give up. But
S2: this is something if it's important to you and you
S2: have said it and it means something to you, it
S2: is important that you do try and follow it through.
S2: So let's get through this little tough point together, shall we?
S1: And if you need to reset, that's fine. Like that's
S1: absolutely fine. If you need to re I've, I've changed
S1: some of mine from the start of the year because
S1: all we all have that we just we have more time.
S1: Obviously if you are in a break at the side
S1: of Jane, you have more time. And so I think
S1: sometimes you.
S2: Don't think realistically.
S1: Exactly. So we need to realign our goals. But they
S1: are so important. And if it is the good, the
S1: thing obviously you can set goals at any point of
S1: the year. And the reason we wanted to reset now
S1: and check in on it is to chat through how
S1: our goals have evolved, but then also, I suppose, talk
S1: through and hopefully for everyone listening. If you do want
S1: to like relook at your goals, work through how you
S1: can evolve them so then you can have them for
S1: the rest of the year for yourself. Because if there
S1: were things that you wanted to make changes of in
S1: your life that are positive, like, let's do it, we
S1: want to do it, it is like we've gone through.
S1: I think the night is at the ninth of Jan
S1: was World Quitters Day or something. 1230 the 12th, which
S1: is like the day that most people quit their resolutions.
S1: We also aren't we're not doing resolutions this year. We're
S1: not doing large overhaul lives. No. Absolutely not. It's setting small,
S1: small goals. Okay. Steffi, do you want to go first?
S2: Yeah, sure. So I think I've already spoken about a
S2: few kind of intentions. So today I wanted to bring, um,
S2: I suppose, some more tangible goals that I'm hoping to
S2: reach this year. And one. One is a fitness one
S2: and the other one is not. But the other one
S2: actually kind of helps me get there in a way.
S2: So I'll kind of explain how they are linked. But
S2: first of all, last year I reached my goal of
S2: doing an unassisted pull up, which I was super stoked
S2: because it just felt like something that I was never
S2: going to be able to do, because I had put
S2: in my mind that I was never going to be
S2: able to do it right. But then as soon as
S2: I actually put the things in practice and made the
S2: time to train and just get stronger, I then did
S2: it and then I was like, okay, now I want
S2: to do three, and I did three. And um, and
S2: I did notice that, you know, basically as soon as
S2: I start stopped practicing it, it dropped back down to
S2: one or I'd have to go back to assisted, and
S2: that's okay. Um, I think that's, that's like any kind
S2: of fitness, even with running, if you take a break
S2: from it, you need to build back up that fitness
S2: and strength. But something for me that I realized last
S2: year in the ebb and flow of my fitness routine,
S2: was when I had at least one solid day in
S2: the gym. Even better if it was two, and then
S2: I might have partnered that with 1 or 2 Pilates
S2: workouts from home, and they were usually just 10 to
S2: 15 minute Pilates workouts. But they really complemented my strength
S2: training really well when I was in that routine, which
S2: definitely is like, attainable for me. Um, I mean, as
S2: long as I'm not, you know, unwell or injured or anything,
S2: I felt amazing and I felt really clear minded and
S2: I just, I really loved that. So my fitness goal
S2: this year is ten unassisted.
S1: Oh my goodness.
S2: And I know to get to that goal I'm going
S2: to need to visit the gym regularly. And so I'm
S2: setting that. That's my fitness goal because I then think
S2: it'll also motivate me to to be more regular with
S2: my training, which I know makes me feel amazing. Um,
S2: so I intend to go to the gym and or
S2: if I can't get to the gym, do strength training
S2: two times a week, and then partner that with, um,
S2: two Pilates workouts from home per week. And I know,
S2: as I said, I know that some weeks it might
S2: not be perfect, but I think having the goal of
S2: having ten unassisted chin ups, I'm not going to be
S2: able to get there if I'm only training once a week.
S2: Like it's just not going to happen. But I, I
S2: can't even explain to you how empowering it did feel
S2: when I did that first unassisted chin ups, that I
S2: can only imagine how ten is going to feel for me.
S2: So I'm really excited about it. But to be able
S2: to do those workouts, the ones from home. And the gym.
S2: I also need to prioritize movement in the morning and
S2: at the moment, and who knows how long it's going
S2: to be for Javi as early rising. So I did
S2: actually the other morning. I just accepted the fact that
S2: he was awake and I got up anyway, and I
S2: asked him to go and do some independent play in
S2: his playroom. And he did, and he was fine. Can
S2: I just.
S1: Say I love that it's called independent play. Like, it's
S1: so funny, I think because obviously I'm not immersed in
S1: like the motherhood land play by myself. Yeah, but independent
S1: play sounds so like I'm like, oh, what is that?
S2: And he did. And he was excited by it. Like, cool,
S2: I'll go play with my monster trucks. No worries. And
S2: I got through a 15 minute Pilates workout. And honestly,
S2: I reckon I could have done longer. It was only
S2: really because I started talking to my stories on my
S2: phone that he kind of remembered, heard my voice and
S2: was like, oh, mom's down south. Um, and so that
S2: made me feel really good because it was like, I've
S2: still had my morning. I haven't, like, interrupted his morning
S2: or made his morning any worse by missing me for
S2: 15 minutes like he was having a lot of fun. Um,
S2: and I still got it done, so I'm not going
S2: to use the excuse of him being an early riser
S2: anymore to, like, not have that time for myself in
S2: the morning. So that's what I need to do, but
S2: also to have the motivation to have that time in
S2: the morning. I need to get an earlier night's rest. Um,
S2: and so I'm really focusing on my wine down now, um,
S2: at night. And the other goal that I was talking
S2: about that's going to help me, this is how it's
S2: like working. There's a funnel, um, is to read more.
S2: So last year I read 17 books. I want to
S2: beat that this year. And the reason why it's important
S2: to me is because last year when I was reading
S2: at night, it made me fall asleep so much faster
S2: because I felt like I kind of got to escape
S2: whatever was going on in my mind or whatever was
S2: happening around me. You know, you can't scroll on your phone,
S2: you can't have a conversation with someone. Sorry, Josh, because
S2: he loves having conversations at night. I just felt immersed
S2: in these stories, and that way I could just kind
S2: of go to sleep once I put the book down. Um,
S2: so yeah, my other goal is to read more books.
S2: And so if I read more books, I probably have
S2: a bit of wind down, which means I'll probably sleep better,
S2: which means I would be more fresh in the morning
S2: to potentially get more workouts done, which will help complement
S2: my strength training. And then I'll be doing ten unassisted.
S1: So yeah, what a cycle there you've got going. Yeah. Amazing.
S2: So the two goals is ten unassisted chin ups and
S2: more than 17 books. And they're going to help each other.
S1: And it has it has it changed since January 1st.
S2: Um, the books one hasn't. The unassisted chin ups has
S2: been a newer one. Just because what I wanted because
S2: from the start of Jan I was like, I felt
S2: really good. It was that realization of how good I
S2: felt when I was doing two Pilates workouts and two
S2: strength workouts a week. Realizing that I can do that,
S2: I can do that. There's things I can put in
S2: place to make sure that happens. Um, and then I
S2: was thinking like, what's going to be something that's going
S2: to motivate me to keep up with that kind of
S2: repetition and that routine. And I was like, well, the
S2: pull up felt real good. So ten, let's do ten
S2: of them. That's it.
S1: Yeah, I love that. So it's like another reason as
S1: to because again, it's like the hottest thing with goals
S1: is motivation to do it. Yeah. And you've set that
S1: in now I love it.
S2: Fantastic. I can see my journey good. And I'm gonna
S2: love every other step to sales.
S1: Mine okay. So my kind of theme of my and
S1: my intention is thriving, not surviving love. I feel like
S1: the last six months of last year I spent in autopilot. Yeah,
S1: there was not a lot of thriving. I sometimes I thrived,
S1: really thriving. Maybe finally, just like getting through life basically.
S1: And I don't, I don't want I really thought about
S1: it and I'm like, I don't want to leave my
S1: life like that. Like it's not me. And I feel like, too.
S1: The lack of routine for me meant that I. And
S1: just when I say routine in not doing anything for
S1: me at any point. Yeah. Um, in like my and
S1: I was also injured so that wasn't helpful. But like
S1: for my mind or for my, um, in terms of
S1: movement etc., it did not help at all. And I
S1: feel like I just lost this connection with myself and
S1: I felt so weak. It's really interesting because I felt
S1: weak physically, like from an like strength physical standpoint. But
S1: when I feel weak physically, I feel weak mentally. It's
S1: like the impact strength having because it's like I'm in
S1: control of my. It's like, I know, like I showed
S1: up for myself. Yeah. And I'm strong and I feel
S1: strong and I feel empowered and then I can take
S1: that into my life. It's just for me. It's like
S1: directly correlated and linked. And so my the kind of way.
S1: So I'll say what I'm going to do and then
S1: how I'm going to do it. So I want to
S1: do three runs each week. That hasn't changed. Well this
S1: has changed. I had straight to strength or Pilates classes week.
S1: I changed it to one because that's going to be
S1: more achievable for me than I have four week workouts
S1: each week. That's achievable. Five meditations that used to be seven.
S1: That's about five minutes in the morning. And that is
S1: especially the days that I'm not exercising. Yep. That's like
S1: my five minutes in the morning. And then ten. I
S1: had every day read ten pages, but I changed it
S1: to ten pages five days a week.
S2: Yep. Gotcha. So what if you read 50 pages in
S2: one day?
S1: No, because it's more. It's more exactly what you were
S1: talking about, of winding down before bed. And it's ten
S1: pages before. Well, where I'm doing it now is before bed,
S1: I would hope. Like, hopefully I'll read outside of that,
S1: like on the weekend or whatever, but ten pages before
S1: bed is like exactly what you said. It's like it
S1: takes you out of that. Like there's a bit of
S1: whatever that your brain and you just go into some
S1: nice story and then you then I find it so
S1: much easier to go to sleep. Yeah. So that's my
S1: things and what they're my goals. And then the way
S1: I'm going to be able to achieve that is with
S1: I've got a new schedule or way my week is
S1: structured that has that built into it.
S2: Has room for it.
S1: Has room for it, exactly like mainly just in the mornings,
S1: but then also has the kind of a little bit better.
S1: It's still like it's still a lot of hours of work,
S1: but it's just a little bit more structured than it
S1: was last year. And it's not like 12 to 14
S1: hours every day. It's more like ten. But then and
S1: there's some nights too, where I've got late night work schedule,
S1: but it's in the thing and it's not five nights
S1: a week, it's like three, which I can. And then
S1: in between there's a little bit of a break because
S1: what I was doing, which wasn't helpful, was I was
S1: doing like, I don't know, say The office or seven.
S1: And then I'd drive home and then I'd get straight
S1: on my laptop until 1030 and I wouldn't have any
S1: of that break. So there's just a few breaks built
S1: in there that enable, because I know sometimes, like our
S1: workload can't change, like stuff's got to get done. It
S1: is what it is. And it's it's kind of finding
S1: that balance. Right. Because I feel like sometimes. And also
S1: within my day too, I actually have working block times. Yeah.
S1: I haven't had that before because what happens and this
S1: happens with your calendar to meetings just get put in
S1: and then you've lost your entire day. And then my
S1: entire task list or work projects all have to be
S1: done at night. So it's I've got some work block
S1: timing and then that's flexible if things are urgent, but
S1: if they're not then it's like, okay, move them to
S1: when there's meeting space. Exactly. So I'm really excited. So
S1: I've got that and that's how I'm going to achieve it.
S1: And I just I just know how shit I felt
S1: last year and I don't want to feel like that.
S1: And that's my motivation. Yeah. Good.
S2: Yeah I'm.
S1: Glad. But it's had a bit of a evolution, just
S1: like a few things cut off because I was like, well, girl,
S1: you're not doing True's transition. It's like.
S2: Last year. You say yourself to do Duolingo.
S1: Everything people say. I was like, I'm gonna learn French
S1: at 15 minutes a day, and then I'm like 12 a.m.
S1: in the night. I'm like, trying to do my French.
S1: And Dawson's like. And it's like, quite Duolingo. If you
S1: are looking to learn a language, a fantastic product, really
S1: great app. But it's like I'm like speaking French into
S1: my phone and then it's like, well done and tick
S1: and Dustin's like, shut the f up. Like I'm trying
S1: to sleep wipe. I don't want this. It's like, it's
S1: obviously a game. Yeah, it's gamified, which is amazing, but
S1: like it's too overstimulating right before bed. So yeah, that
S1: was quite I remember for two weeks generally like Dawson
S1: was trying to sleep and I'm doing fucking Duolingo next
S1: day it was like.
S2: Yeah, that was not long enough.
S1: I was like going out of the bedroom. And I'm like,
S1: what am I doing? Like, why am I doing this?
S1: Is helping me. There was the why behind my goal
S1: was like, I want to learn French. Why? Yeah. Why.
S1: Like unless you can find time, don't. Yeah. You've got
S1: the rest of your life flaws.
S2: It's a long.
S1: Life. Thank you, thank you, thank you very much.
S3: One, two, three.
S1: Okay, there was a viral TikTok. I feel like a
S1: boomer when I say viral. Viral. I borrow TikTok and
S1: we have to talk about it. It was from a
S1: page called JD Lee, and it was about how Australian
S1: dating rules work, and it was just so funny. And
S1: we've got to play it for you. Hi.
S4: Can someone please explain to me how Australian dating rules work?
S4: Because I don't get it. I do not understand. I
S4: feel like if you say one wrong thing, you're left
S4: on red. And then the amount of dates that have
S4: been organised and then the guys just never texted me again,
S4: has never happened anywhere else in the world. And every
S4: woman I speak to has the exact same horror stories
S4: about Australian men. Someone please elaborate.
S1: I'm embarrassed. I'm embarrassed. Seriously. This is. And then the
S1: best part was people then stitched that TikTok with their
S1: own story, with their own stories, and people came in
S1: with some very good experiences. So the first or not
S1: sorry good is in like I enjoyed watching them. Yeah.
S1: Not to experience in the dating world. So someone said
S1: we don't have rules. You just fight for your life.
S1: This is bad. This is bad for Australia. That's not good.
S1: Oh my god. And Australia equals Neverland, home to the
S1: Lost Boys. Okay, so this is definitely about men I
S1: yeah I, I would have to agree with the stories.
S2: Aussie men love to organise a date and then apparently die.
S1: Yeah. Never never never come. What is it called? Shade. No. Ghost. Ghost.
S1: Shade ghost. Just ghost that I'm in. Like I'm actually
S1: embarrassed for this.
S2: Yeah. This is.
S1: Who would want to be like.
S2: This? Last one's bad.
S1: Read it out, read it out.
S2: Men have this idea that if they put in the
S2: slightest bit of effort, that you will think they're in
S2: love with you.
S1: I just. The bar for men in dating is so low.
S1: It's so low. Like I don't want to be ghosted. No,
S1: I don't want people to waste my time. I don't
S1: want people to make me feel like shit about myself
S1: when they don't even care. Like you're thinking about it
S1: all day and they're like, they forget. Like, are you joking?
S1: I just it just.
S2: Yeah.
S1: This sucks.
S2: It really does.
S1: We really. You need to wake up. Yeah. White men, especially.
S2: Australian men, apparently.
S1: To wake.
S2: Up. Now, we've had some of you guys from our
S2: community also share some things about the Australian dating scene.
S2: So let's jump into those. There are so many amazing
S2: people out there who just keep getting screwed over by
S2: the casual dating culture, and it's honestly so damaging to self-esteem.
S2: I hate it sometimes I just want to give up,
S2: but I keep at it because I want to feel
S2: that type of love. One day I hope things change
S2: for us. Oh, one day I hope things change for you.
S1: I'm sorry Australian men wake up you are impacting people's confidence.
S1: You are? You're serious? You're non. You're not taking it seriously.
S1: Men in Australia you are being too casual and it's
S1: time to stop. Yeah, casual. If you want to be
S1: casual about dating, don't date. And it just.
S2: Makes me think. Like I know of some really decent
S2: guys that are dating, not having a lot of luck,
S2: and I feel like it's these shitty guys that are.
S1: Ruining it for everyone. The casual lads that love to
S1: swipe on illicit pumping know it's pump and dump, isn't it?
S1: I think that's a very disgusting way to.
S2: Say pump and dump is like ejaculate, isn't it? I
S2: don't know, Lindsay's laughing. It's something about ejaculating.
S5: I can't, I use it a lot, but usually that's
S5: what I imagine it means. Anyway.
S1: I've never.
S5: Said it.
S2: Siri, wait, where? Siri ask in.
S1: Dictionary. Uh, a situation where a person has sex with
S1: a partner on a single occasion, without immediate intention or
S1: further contact to pursue a serious relationship. Maybe that's what
S1: the definition of Australian men is. Australian man equals pump
S1: and dump.
S2: This one the worst single again at 33 and I
S2: want to give up. Oh, they always think there is
S2: someone better.
S1: Oh that sucks.
S2: Okay, this is a long one. Being single in your
S2: 30s is hard enough with societal expectations and my own
S2: ideas of where I would be at in life, but
S2: these days it is just so hard to meet people
S2: organically at cafes or restaurants. No one looks up from
S2: their phone or wants to venture away from their friends,
S2: which I get, but I don't enjoy going out and drinking,
S2: so a bar slash pub night isn't where I want
S2: to meet someone if that's how they spend their weekends.
S2: Working full time and having a mortgage and bills on
S2: my own is also impacting opportunities to try new things
S2: to meet guys. So I turn into dating apps and
S2: they truly make me want to give up. Whether you're
S2: just vibing with someone, thinking it'll lead to dates or
S2: having casual chatter, they always end up ghosting. I think
S2: the issue with dating apps is that there appears to
S2: be an endless stream of people available, so all the
S2: guys think I'm making a connection with seem to be
S2: looking for someone better in the pile of profiles no
S2: one seems to want to put in the effort to
S2: form a connection, and I'm preparing myself for the fact
S2: that my happily ever after might look different to how
S2: I thought it would. And that's okay.
S1: It is okay. I'm like, that is fucking amazing to
S1: say that, first of all. But second of all, I
S1: you know what? I think with dating apps, it's like
S1: it's great in that like, it's enabled people to meet
S1: people that couldn't have met before because it's just like.
S2: You've got a sea of.
S1: People transactional. It's like, oh, there'll be someone because it's
S1: like you write the profile and then it's like you
S1: compare that like in your head out of ten, and
S1: then you compare the profiles, you're like, oh no, I'm
S1: waiting for a it's so true.
S2: But it's like when you meet someone in real life
S2: and organically, which I know is is different and difficult now,
S2: but it is. You don't have that thought of like, oh,
S2: but there could be like 20 other people tonight that
S2: I'll also catch eye contact with and potentially flirt with. Like, sorry,
S2: that doesn't happen to anyone in the real world. So
S2: but online, yeah, I'm probably going to swipe, you know,
S2: another 30 people tonight and who knows how many of
S2: them are going to swipe back. So it's just like
S2: two too many options that they think the grass is
S2: always greener, that they never actually get to know the person.
S2: And I think that sucks.
S1: And it sucks too, because because of our biological clock.
S1: If you do want to have children, yeah, men don't
S1: have they don't have that stress, so they don't need
S1: to think about it. And so they and also like
S1: yeah they then like even looking at like divorce rates
S1: and then after divorce so often like I know so
S1: many stories about men that then go and date like
S1: really young women and it's like, but I just, I just, um,
S1: I am not for these men sometimes anyway. Okay, okay.
S1: Rocks up to his house for a first date. He
S1: was in his PJs at 3 p.m. drinking a beer.
S1: We've been together for three years. I didn't, I thought
S1: that was going bad, but it's. It's good.
S2: I mean, cute.
S1: But that. Do you know what that tells me? You
S1: don't need to have fancy date to find love. You
S1: don't need.
S2: Also nice things that we put in way too much effort.
S1: You're right. You know, it also says that. Yes. Okay.
S1: Match with the guy on Tinder and send him an
S1: opening question asking if you could blink and go anywhere
S1: in the world, where would you go? Are. I can't
S1: read this because again, this is embarrassing for Australia. What
S1: did he.
S2: Say?
S1: He says. Between your tits? No. Who said romance was dead?
S2: No.
S1: Old mate Brad from Tinder did. That is. No.
S2: No. If you.
S1: Could go.
S2: In my world. Is that hot? That's not in anyone's world.
S1: Hot, mate. Say, Italy. Say something else with you.
S2: Maybe.
S1: Queen your tits.
S2: I think you're gonna say between.
S1: So don't call them tits like in the first thing
S1: I know.
S2: Who the fuck?
S1: Like you're not entitled to tits. No one.
S2: No one. They're not tits.
S1: Unless, like, once you're together. And you. You've established that
S1: I don't. Sure.
S2: Okay. Maybe it.
S1: Could be for people, but don't.
S2: Know.
S1: Don't slide in with that.
S2: No, you can't slide in with that.
S1: Ah.
S2: Ah. When men don't want to date me because I'm
S2: a career focused woman. Well, those men can. I actually.
S1: Generally think. And from a lot of friends I've spoken
S1: to a lot of men. Ah. And it's not. I
S1: understand why like where it's come from. Like internally. It's
S1: not right. But they are intimidated by a partner that
S1: would make more money with them than them, or have
S1: more success than them.
S2: Sad. That's very sad. Oh.
S1: Don't stop your career because of it.
S2: Oh. My boyfriend. Absolutely not. Oh, no. What are we
S2: entering on? Yeah. You know. Ah, this one's fine.
S1: This one. I think this is fine. This is okay.
S1: Australian man to do this. Yes. A guy once took
S1: me on a date to a fish and chip shop. Ah,
S1: I think that's that's fine. What? One of my dream
S1: dates is like. I don't sitting at a table across
S1: from each other because I'm awkward as worst night. I'd just, like,
S1: so awkward. I don't like silence. And I feel it.
S1: I talk to you. I just say so many things. Anyway,
S1: for me, going for a walk or like going and
S1: getting fish and chips and like sitting on the beach
S1: or something, or somewhere, like at a park where you're not,
S1: like directly facing each other. And there's some time where
S1: you just like looking, you know, to eye contact the
S1: whole time. I think that's really good. So I think
S1: it's good.
S2: That's fine. Using your hands, that's fine. He's already not
S2: the type that you need to, like, order a salad
S2: around and worry about, you know, food going everywhere because
S2: he's ordered you finger food. As long as he.
S1: Doesn't just get chips and potato cakes, like, at least
S1: get a gym sim in there. I think it would
S1: be more about that. Anyway, that was actually really depressing,
S1: and I'm really sorry that this is if you don't,
S1: for all of our international listeners outside of Australia, if
S1: you don't come here, if you want to come to
S1: Australia for a boyfriend because we both.
S2: Date Australian men.
S1: Well, yeah, but I do.
S2: Plenty of Australian men who are fine. There's obviously just
S2: a huge sea of them with massive egos, and it's
S2: very sad.
S1: The fact that the TikTok person said this has never
S1: happened in any other country. It's very sad. I think
S1: Australian men are these IT thing that's not changing in
S1: this equation. Interesting. Anyway, and obviously, as I said, this
S1: is not all Australian men. There are lovely, wonderful Australian
S1: men here and people, but there are also some bad
S1: fish in the sea.
S2: You've had fish in the sea.
S6: So what is your temperature? What is it? Time for
S6: special share.
S7: Shit.
S2: Aussie.
S1: Yes.
S4: I have a book for you today. Oh the book.
S1: Did your book okay? My book is good material by
S1: Dolly Alderton. Oh yes. Yeah. And I really liked it.
S1: It is about dating. It's the most real experience. Basically,
S1: it's a couple breakup and then it's the experience of
S1: mainly 80% is the guy. Oh, actually, I reckon 90%
S1: is the guy's experience of the breakup. He's the one
S1: who's broken up with. And then at the end you
S1: get to hear from the female perspective. And she was
S1: the one who broke up with him. Okay. It is
S1: so interesting. And it is the most when I say
S1: interesting to read the actual reality of a breakup, because
S1: I feel like there's a lot of like online. It's like,
S1: just get over it. It's like people break up with people.
S1: It is what it is, whatever it's actually and like
S1: to actually go into the detail of how it impacts
S1: someone's life in, like all facets was it was so
S1: honest and just I was like, fuck, this is actually
S1: so true. And then also from the perspective of the
S1: person who broke up with that person, yeah, it doesn't
S1: mean it's not just it's not easy for them and
S1: it's and it also goes into like there's so many
S1: reasons why because so often you were saying like, oh,
S1: it's because there's someone else. But that's not often the reason.
S1: There's so many other reasons why people break up. It was,
S1: I have to say, if you are reading it or
S1: you want to read it, it's too long in the middle.
S1: They could have I just I think 20% of the
S1: man's story could have been cut out. It was bits
S1: where I was like, do I keep going with this book?
S1: But I'm very glad in the end that I've read
S1: it and I persevered. So it's definitely special. I do
S1: recommend reading it, but don't give up in the middle
S1: where you're like, this is dragging on because I did
S1: drag in the middle, but then it was a really
S1: good at the engine. Good start. Yeah. Nice. Yeah, yeah.
S1: So recommend.
S2: I'm excited.
S1: To read it. Yeah. You'll like it.
S2: My book is called the Seven Year Sleep. By Ashley Paulson.
S2: And I really enjoyed it. It is about can I
S2: say the color? Yes you can. It is about a
S2: girl who moves into her aunties, her late aunties old apartment. Um,
S2: and it's there's a bit of magic to the apartment.
S2: And that made it sound like a like a fantasy.
S2: It's not. Um, it's more like I'm trying to think
S2: of that movie, that classic movie where they're, like, leaving letters.
S2: And the person who lived there years ago, what was
S2: that movie called? I don't know.
S5: Oh, the lake house?
S1: Yes, the lake house.
S2: It's kind of like there's two decades of it happening
S2: in the same location anyway. Um, it's a really beautiful
S2: love story. And also just a cool story about a
S2: woman in New York. Um, as a publisher, a book publisher.
S1: I think I'd love it. It's good. Any book set
S1: in New York? I also love reading about book publishers.
S1: Laughs I just, I really any magazines, publishers, I just
S1: it's good. I love those stories. I'm gonna read it like.
S2: Little bits throughout the book that like all then like
S2: it just there's a lot. It just makes sense, make sense,
S2: make sense, make sense. I really miss it. Uh, 300.
S1: Something. Okay, so not too long.
S2: No no no. Okay. No no no. Um, fairly easy read,
S2: but I just really enjoyed it. It was nice. Thank you.
S1: Yeah, thank you for that special share. You're welcome. Thank
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