WEBVTT - Australian men on dating apps – grow up!

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<v S1>Listener Keke Palmer acknowledges the traditional owners and custodians of

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<v S1>the land in which we're recording this podcast, the Eula

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<v S1>Wilson clan of the Boomerang, who were a part of

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<v S1>the Kulin nation. We pay our respects to our elders,

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<v S1>past and present, and extend our respect to Aboriginal and

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<v S1>Torres Strait Islander peoples today.

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<v S2>Welcome to the Keke pod. Your name on the stuff

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<v S2>that matters, but also the stuff that doesn't.

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<v UU>Welcome, guys. Hi.

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<v S1>Hello. I have something to tell you. I got a

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<v S1>very funny. So I have Google alerts on for you

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<v S1>and Keke and me. So basically the point of it is.

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<v S1>So then if anyone writes anything really bad, if there's

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<v S1>any crisis, we know we get one on Twitter. We're

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<v S1>on to it, not drama. We have to fix it,

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<v S1>but we're on to it. The other day, I got

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<v S1>a notification that you were in an article, and the

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<v S1>title of the article was The Old money Haircut you're

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<v S1>about to see everywhere it was, it's on Mamma mia!

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<v S1>And I just laughed my head off because I never

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<v S1>thought of your haircut like an old money haircut. It's funny, though, because.

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<v S1>But then I know I can't unsee it.

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<v S2>Yeah, I know, I.

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<v S1>Know, I can't unsee it. What did.

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<v S2>They say? I'm like the Meredith. Blake.

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<v S1>Hang on, let me.

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<v S2>I'm giving Meredith Blake from. Um. No, not it takes two.

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<v S2>What's it called? Oh, parent trap. Parent trap? They said

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<v S2>everyone's doing it. So if it's a cut that you've

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<v S2>been wanting to do for a long time, now's the time. Yes.

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<v S1>Okay, so it's called the old money, Bob, for anyone

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<v S1>that doesn't know what it means. Yeah, it's basically when.

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<v S1>So old money versus new money. Old money is like

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<v S1>when money is passed down from like generation families, generational

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<v S1>wealth generation. And then new money is when like the

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<v S1>person didn't come from money but has made their own money,

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<v S1>whereas old money is from their parents basically, then probably

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<v S1>from their parents, parents, etc.. 100%. Yeah. Anyway, yeah. So

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<v S1>that is just so funny. I just when I saw that,

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<v S1>I'm like, oh my God, I've never looked at your

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<v S1>mom in that way. But there we go.

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<v S2>Yeah.

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<v S1>The rise of the old money, Bob. Anyway, so aside

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<v S1>from the Bob. Yeah, you have got news for us.

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<v S2>I mean, I we have news for that. We have

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<v S2>news for the people. Um, so basically we have designed

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<v S2>our very first collaboration through Kik with an activewear label.

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<v S2>And that activewear label is stacks. So first of all,

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<v S2>welcome to the Kik Squad Stacks and Stacks community. We

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<v S2>are so excited about this collection. We designed it along

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<v S2>with Don Robinson, their founder and creative director, and it

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<v S2>was just a breeze. Can I say, working with this team,

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<v S2>they are incredible at what they do, and it was

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<v S2>so fun to put together a 15 piece collection, keeping

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<v S2>in mind inclusivity, quality and comfort of course, for every piece.

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<v S2>So we want to empower you to move without holding

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<v S2>you back. You want to feel comfortable in whatever movement

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<v S2>that makes you feel good, or even just wearing it

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<v S2>every day. We love wearing our activewear when we're not

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<v S2>actually being active, and that is what this collection is

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<v S2>all about. So we want it to be here for you,

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<v S2>to support you when you need it most. And it

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<v S2>is also a reminder that you are enough just as

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<v S2>you are, which it literally says on some of the collection.

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<v S2>Not so.

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<v S1>Excited. And the color? It is a beautiful pink. It's

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<v S1>inspired by our one of our pink rooms, our Pilates room.

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<v S1>That's where the kind of the inspiration started. And I

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<v S1>think as well it's important to talk about we have

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<v S1>never done a Keke activewear collaboration before, and the reason being,

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<v S1>it just hasn't felt right. I don't know how to

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<v S1>explain it. It's like there was just like, we've been

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<v S1>asked to do it quite a few times and we

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<v S1>just didn't have the the alignment wasn't there. And so

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<v S1>to have a brand that we felt, we kind of thought, no,

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<v S1>it's time now. And stacks are so inclusive as a brand.

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<v S1>We went to their show. So this has been in

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<v S1>the works for quite a long time. And right before we,

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<v S1>we kind of work through it and it was just

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<v S1>the most this runway they did was the most inclusive

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<v S1>ever that I've ever seen. We've both ever seen. And

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<v S1>it was like, this is and the quality of their

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<v S1>products is just fantastic. Yeah. The design elements that go

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<v S1>into them, the way they fit, the way they look,

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<v S1>I mean, I'm wearing a bodysuit from them right now. I,

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<v S1>we just love it. And so we thought, why not.

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<v S1>Like it's time. It's time. And so yeah, we're so

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<v S1>it's such a special collection. We have we were a

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<v S1>part of the whole design process to make sure it was.

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<v S1>I mean, we speak to all of you all the

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<v S1>time about like what you're looking for and in your

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<v S1>activewear and how you want things to fit. And so

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<v S1>we encapsulated all of that. And Don is an amazing, like,

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<v S1>creative genius with his designs. And yeah, it's really exciting.

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<v S2>Yeah. So it is dropping Friday the 9th of February.

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<v S2>So it will be available for you guys to purchase in.

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<v S2>And we're just so excited and so keen to hear

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<v S2>your thoughts. And we cannot wait to see you guys

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<v S2>kicking it in the gear and just wearing all the merch.

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<v S2>It's a very, very exciting collaboration for us, so we

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<v S2>hope you're okay. Okay. Lousy. It is the end of January.

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<v S2>You know, and I feel like this is the time

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<v S2>of the year, not just. I feel like I know

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<v S2>the research backs this, but this is the time of

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<v S2>the year where a lot of us have either already

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<v S2>let go or are thinking about letting go of our

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<v S2>goals that we may have said at the start of January.

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<v S2>So we wanted to check in with each other and

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<v S2>talk about that because we've set our own goals. And

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<v S2>I'm very interested to hear what you've set for yourself, Lucy. Um,

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<v S2>and then also just say to anyone listening in, if

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<v S2>you are in that moment and you are feeling like

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<v S2>the motivation is dropping, we are here to remind you

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<v S2>that it is okay if you're feeling that way, but

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<v S2>we are going to all get through this part together

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<v S2>because I feel like it's after the first couple of weeks.

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<v S2>And it's the same with even with our run programs

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<v S2>and other programs in general. Once you get past the

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<v S2>first couple of weeks where you might have the motivation

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<v S2>because of the adrenaline of setting something and being excited

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<v S2>about it, but then it might get a little bit tough.

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<v S2>Maybe it's like physically tough, or maybe it's just harder

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<v S2>to fit in. It can be really easy to kind

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<v S2>of think of every excuse to to give up. But

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<v S2>this is something if it's important to you and you

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<v S2>have said it and it means something to you, it

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<v S2>is important that you do try and follow it through.

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<v S2>So let's get through this little tough point together, shall we?

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<v S1>And if you need to reset, that's fine. Like that's

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<v S1>absolutely fine. If you need to re I've, I've changed

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<v S1>some of mine from the start of the year because

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<v S1>all we all have that we just we have more time.

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<v S1>Obviously if you are in a break at the side

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<v S1>of Jane, you have more time. And so I think

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<v S1>sometimes you.

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<v S2>Don't think realistically.

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<v S1>Exactly. So we need to realign our goals. But they

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<v S1>are so important. And if it is the good, the

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<v S1>thing obviously you can set goals at any point of

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<v S1>the year. And the reason we wanted to reset now

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<v S1>and check in on it is to chat through how

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<v S1>our goals have evolved, but then also, I suppose, talk

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<v S1>through and hopefully for everyone listening. If you do want

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<v S1>to like relook at your goals, work through how you

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<v S1>can evolve them so then you can have them for

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<v S1>the rest of the year for yourself. Because if there

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<v S1>were things that you wanted to make changes of in

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<v S1>your life that are positive, like, let's do it, we

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<v S1>want to do it, it is like we've gone through.

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<v S1>I think the night is at the ninth of Jan

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<v S1>was World Quitters Day or something. 1230 the 12th, which

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<v S1>is like the day that most people quit their resolutions.

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<v S1>We also aren't we're not doing resolutions this year. We're

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<v S1>not doing large overhaul lives. No. Absolutely not. It's setting small,

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<v S1>small goals. Okay. Steffi, do you want to go first?

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<v S2>Yeah, sure. So I think I've already spoken about a

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<v S2>few kind of intentions. So today I wanted to bring, um,

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<v S2>I suppose, some more tangible goals that I'm hoping to

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<v S2>reach this year. And one. One is a fitness one

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<v S2>and the other one is not. But the other one

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<v S2>actually kind of helps me get there in a way.

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<v S2>So I'll kind of explain how they are linked. But

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<v S2>first of all, last year I reached my goal of

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<v S2>doing an unassisted pull up, which I was super stoked

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<v S2>because it just felt like something that I was never

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<v S2>going to be able to do, because I had put

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<v S2>in my mind that I was never going to be

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<v S2>able to do it right. But then as soon as

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<v S2>I actually put the things in practice and made the

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<v S2>time to train and just get stronger, I then did

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<v S2>it and then I was like, okay, now I want

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<v S2>to do three, and I did three. And um, and

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<v S2>I did notice that, you know, basically as soon as

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<v S2>I start stopped practicing it, it dropped back down to

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<v S2>one or I'd have to go back to assisted, and

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<v S2>that's okay. Um, I think that's, that's like any kind

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<v S2>of fitness, even with running, if you take a break

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<v S2>from it, you need to build back up that fitness

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<v S2>and strength. But something for me that I realized last

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<v S2>year in the ebb and flow of my fitness routine,

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<v S2>was when I had at least one solid day in

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<v S2>the gym. Even better if it was two, and then

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<v S2>I might have partnered that with 1 or 2 Pilates

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<v S2>workouts from home, and they were usually just 10 to

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<v S2>15 minute Pilates workouts. But they really complemented my strength

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<v S2>training really well when I was in that routine, which

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<v S2>definitely is like, attainable for me. Um, I mean, as

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<v S2>long as I'm not, you know, unwell or injured or anything,

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<v S2>I felt amazing and I felt really clear minded and

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<v S2>I just, I really loved that. So my fitness goal

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<v S2>this year is ten unassisted.

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<v S1>Oh my goodness.

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<v S2>And I know to get to that goal I'm going

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<v S2>to need to visit the gym regularly. And so I'm

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<v S2>setting that. That's my fitness goal because I then think

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<v S2>it'll also motivate me to to be more regular with

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<v S2>my training, which I know makes me feel amazing. Um,

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<v S2>so I intend to go to the gym and or

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<v S2>if I can't get to the gym, do strength training

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<v S2>two times a week, and then partner that with, um,

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<v S2>two Pilates workouts from home per week. And I know,

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<v S2>as I said, I know that some weeks it might

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<v S2>not be perfect, but I think having the goal of

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<v S2>having ten unassisted chin ups, I'm not going to be

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<v S2>able to get there if I'm only training once a week.

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<v S2>Like it's just not going to happen. But I, I

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<v S2>can't even explain to you how empowering it did feel

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<v S2>when I did that first unassisted chin ups, that I

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<v S2>can only imagine how ten is going to feel for me.

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<v S2>So I'm really excited about it. But to be able

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<v S2>to do those workouts, the ones from home. And the gym.

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<v S2>I also need to prioritize movement in the morning and

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<v S2>at the moment, and who knows how long it's going

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<v S2>to be for Javi as early rising. So I did

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<v S2>actually the other morning. I just accepted the fact that

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<v S2>he was awake and I got up anyway, and I

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<v S2>asked him to go and do some independent play in

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<v S2>his playroom. And he did, and he was fine. Can

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<v S2>I just.

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<v S1>Say I love that it's called independent play. Like, it's

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<v S1>so funny, I think because obviously I'm not immersed in

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<v S1>like the motherhood land play by myself. Yeah, but independent

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<v S1>play sounds so like I'm like, oh, what is that?

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<v S2>And he did. And he was excited by it. Like, cool,

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<v S2>I'll go play with my monster trucks. No worries. And

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<v S2>I got through a 15 minute Pilates workout. And honestly,

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<v S2>I reckon I could have done longer. It was only

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<v S2>really because I started talking to my stories on my

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<v S2>phone that he kind of remembered, heard my voice and

0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:07.220
<v S2>was like, oh, mom's down south. Um, and so that

0:11:07.220 --> 0:11:09.080
<v S2>made me feel really good because it was like, I've

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<v S2>still had my morning. I haven't, like, interrupted his morning

0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:13.910
<v S2>or made his morning any worse by missing me for

0:11:13.910 --> 0:11:16.460
<v S2>15 minutes like he was having a lot of fun. Um,

0:11:16.460 --> 0:11:17.809
<v S2>and I still got it done, so I'm not going

0:11:17.809 --> 0:11:19.610
<v S2>to use the excuse of him being an early riser

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<v S2>anymore to, like, not have that time for myself in

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<v S2>the morning. So that's what I need to do, but

0:11:24.470 --> 0:11:27.290
<v S2>also to have the motivation to have that time in

0:11:27.290 --> 0:11:29.960
<v S2>the morning. I need to get an earlier night's rest. Um,

0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:33.800
<v S2>and so I'm really focusing on my wine down now, um,

0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:36.500
<v S2>at night. And the other goal that I was talking

0:11:36.500 --> 0:11:38.030
<v S2>about that's going to help me, this is how it's

0:11:38.030 --> 0:11:41.329
<v S2>like working. There's a funnel, um, is to read more.

0:11:41.330 --> 0:11:43.400
<v S2>So last year I read 17 books. I want to

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<v S2>beat that this year. And the reason why it's important

0:11:46.250 --> 0:11:48.709
<v S2>to me is because last year when I was reading

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<v S2>at night, it made me fall asleep so much faster

0:11:51.770 --> 0:11:54.320
<v S2>because I felt like I kind of got to escape

0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:56.959
<v S2>whatever was going on in my mind or whatever was

0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:59.600
<v S2>happening around me. You know, you can't scroll on your phone,

0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:02.630
<v S2>you can't have a conversation with someone. Sorry, Josh, because

0:12:02.809 --> 0:12:05.809
<v S2>he loves having conversations at night. I just felt immersed

0:12:05.809 --> 0:12:07.880
<v S2>in these stories, and that way I could just kind

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<v S2>of go to sleep once I put the book down. Um,

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<v S2>so yeah, my other goal is to read more books.

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<v S2>And so if I read more books, I probably have

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<v S2>a bit of wind down, which means I'll probably sleep better,

0:12:17.059 --> 0:12:18.829
<v S2>which means I would be more fresh in the morning

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<v S2>to potentially get more workouts done, which will help complement

0:12:22.340 --> 0:12:24.260
<v S2>my strength training. And then I'll be doing ten unassisted.

0:12:24.260 --> 0:12:28.940
<v S1>So yeah, what a cycle there you've got going. Yeah. Amazing.

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<v S2>So the two goals is ten unassisted chin ups and

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<v S2>more than 17 books. And they're going to help each other.

0:12:34.309 --> 0:12:36.530
<v S1>And it has it has it changed since January 1st.

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<v S2>Um, the books one hasn't. The unassisted chin ups has

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<v S2>been a newer one. Just because what I wanted because

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<v S2>from the start of Jan I was like, I felt

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<v S2>really good. It was that realization of how good I

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<v S2>felt when I was doing two Pilates workouts and two

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<v S2>strength workouts a week. Realizing that I can do that,

0:12:52.910 --> 0:12:54.350
<v S2>I can do that. There's things I can put in

0:12:54.350 --> 0:12:56.960
<v S2>place to make sure that happens. Um, and then I

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<v S2>was thinking like, what's going to be something that's going

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<v S2>to motivate me to keep up with that kind of

0:13:02.420 --> 0:13:05.330
<v S2>repetition and that routine. And I was like, well, the

0:13:05.330 --> 0:13:07.760
<v S2>pull up felt real good. So ten, let's do ten

0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:09.230
<v S2>of them. That's it.

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<v S1>Yeah, I love that. So it's like another reason as

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<v S1>to because again, it's like the hottest thing with goals

0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:16.819
<v S1>is motivation to do it. Yeah. And you've set that

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<v S1>in now I love it.

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<v S2>Fantastic. I can see my journey good. And I'm gonna

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<v S2>love every other step to sales.

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<v S1>Mine okay. So my kind of theme of my and

0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:30.620
<v S1>my intention is thriving, not surviving love. I feel like

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<v S1>the last six months of last year I spent in autopilot. Yeah,

0:13:33.590 --> 0:13:36.140
<v S1>there was not a lot of thriving. I sometimes I thrived,

0:13:36.140 --> 0:13:40.100
<v S1>really thriving. Maybe finally, just like getting through life basically.

0:13:40.100 --> 0:13:41.900
<v S1>And I don't, I don't want I really thought about

0:13:41.900 --> 0:13:42.829
<v S1>it and I'm like, I don't want to leave my

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<v S1>life like that. Like it's not me. And I feel like, too.

0:13:45.650 --> 0:13:51.650
<v S1>The lack of routine for me meant that I. And

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<v S1>just when I say routine in not doing anything for

0:13:54.380 --> 0:13:57.350
<v S1>me at any point. Yeah. Um, in like my and

0:13:57.350 --> 0:13:59.090
<v S1>I was also injured so that wasn't helpful. But like

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<v S1>for my mind or for my, um, in terms of

0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:03.890
<v S1>movement etc., it did not help at all. And I

0:14:03.890 --> 0:14:06.110
<v S1>feel like I just lost this connection with myself and

0:14:06.110 --> 0:14:09.439
<v S1>I felt so weak. It's really interesting because I felt

0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:13.670
<v S1>weak physically, like from an like strength physical standpoint. But

0:14:13.670 --> 0:14:16.819
<v S1>when I feel weak physically, I feel weak mentally. It's

0:14:16.820 --> 0:14:19.580
<v S1>like the impact strength having because it's like I'm in

0:14:19.580 --> 0:14:23.990
<v S1>control of my. It's like, I know, like I showed

0:14:23.990 --> 0:14:27.020
<v S1>up for myself. Yeah. And I'm strong and I feel

0:14:27.020 --> 0:14:28.970
<v S1>strong and I feel empowered and then I can take

0:14:28.970 --> 0:14:31.700
<v S1>that into my life. It's just for me. It's like

0:14:31.700 --> 0:14:36.229
<v S1>directly correlated and linked. And so my the kind of way.

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<v S1>So I'll say what I'm going to do and then

0:14:37.610 --> 0:14:39.770
<v S1>how I'm going to do it. So I want to

0:14:39.770 --> 0:14:44.300
<v S1>do three runs each week. That hasn't changed. Well this

0:14:44.300 --> 0:14:47.359
<v S1>has changed. I had straight to strength or Pilates classes week.

0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:48.800
<v S1>I changed it to one because that's going to be

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<v S1>more achievable for me than I have four week workouts

0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:56.720
<v S1>each week. That's achievable. Five meditations that used to be seven.

0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:59.180
<v S1>That's about five minutes in the morning. And that is

0:14:59.180 --> 0:15:02.540
<v S1>especially the days that I'm not exercising. Yep. That's like

0:15:02.540 --> 0:15:06.320
<v S1>my five minutes in the morning. And then ten. I

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<v S1>had every day read ten pages, but I changed it

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<v S1>to ten pages five days a week.

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<v S2>Yep. Gotcha. So what if you read 50 pages in

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<v S2>one day?

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<v S1>No, because it's more. It's more exactly what you were

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<v S1>talking about, of winding down before bed. And it's ten

0:15:20.630 --> 0:15:23.750
<v S1>pages before. Well, where I'm doing it now is before bed,

0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:26.270
<v S1>I would hope. Like, hopefully I'll read outside of that,

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<v S1>like on the weekend or whatever, but ten pages before

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<v S1>bed is like exactly what you said. It's like it

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<v S1>takes you out of that. Like there's a bit of

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<v S1>whatever that your brain and you just go into some

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<v S1>nice story and then you then I find it so

0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:40.580
<v S1>much easier to go to sleep. Yeah. So that's my

0:15:40.580 --> 0:15:43.430
<v S1>things and what they're my goals. And then the way

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<v S1>I'm going to be able to achieve that is with

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<v S1>I've got a new schedule or way my week is

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<v S1>structured that has that built into it.

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<v S2>Has room for it.

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<v S1>Has room for it, exactly like mainly just in the mornings,

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<v S1>but then also has the kind of a little bit better.

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<v S1>It's still like it's still a lot of hours of work,

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<v S1>but it's just a little bit more structured than it

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<v S1>was last year. And it's not like 12 to 14

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<v S1>hours every day. It's more like ten. But then and

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<v S1>there's some nights too, where I've got late night work schedule,

0:16:13.010 --> 0:16:15.710
<v S1>but it's in the thing and it's not five nights

0:16:15.710 --> 0:16:18.560
<v S1>a week, it's like three, which I can. And then

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<v S1>in between there's a little bit of a break because

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<v S1>what I was doing, which wasn't helpful, was I was

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<v S1>doing like, I don't know, say The office or seven.

0:16:24.290 --> 0:16:26.180
<v S1>And then I'd drive home and then I'd get straight

0:16:26.180 --> 0:16:28.730
<v S1>on my laptop until 1030 and I wouldn't have any

0:16:28.730 --> 0:16:31.040
<v S1>of that break. So there's just a few breaks built

0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:34.160
<v S1>in there that enable, because I know sometimes, like our

0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:36.320
<v S1>workload can't change, like stuff's got to get done. It

0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:38.780
<v S1>is what it is. And it's it's kind of finding

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<v S1>that balance. Right. Because I feel like sometimes. And also

0:16:41.780 --> 0:16:44.930
<v S1>within my day too, I actually have working block times. Yeah.

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<v S1>I haven't had that before because what happens and this

0:16:47.330 --> 0:16:49.700
<v S1>happens with your calendar to meetings just get put in

0:16:49.700 --> 0:16:52.520
<v S1>and then you've lost your entire day. And then my

0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:55.640
<v S1>entire task list or work projects all have to be

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<v S1>done at night. So it's I've got some work block

0:16:58.700 --> 0:17:01.640
<v S1>timing and then that's flexible if things are urgent, but

0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:03.740
<v S1>if they're not then it's like, okay, move them to

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<v S1>when there's meeting space. Exactly. So I'm really excited. So

0:17:06.290 --> 0:17:08.480
<v S1>I've got that and that's how I'm going to achieve it.

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<v S1>And I just I just know how shit I felt

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<v S1>last year and I don't want to feel like that.

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<v S1>And that's my motivation. Yeah. Good.

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<v S2>Yeah I'm.

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<v S1>Glad. But it's had a bit of a evolution, just

0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:19.490
<v S1>like a few things cut off because I was like, well, girl,

0:17:19.490 --> 0:17:20.989
<v S1>you're not doing True's transition. It's like.

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<v S2>Last year. You say yourself to do Duolingo.

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<v S1>Everything people say. I was like, I'm gonna learn French

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<v S1>at 15 minutes a day, and then I'm like 12 a.m.

0:17:28.730 --> 0:17:30.440
<v S1>in the night. I'm like, trying to do my French.

0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:33.139
<v S1>And Dawson's like. And it's like, quite Duolingo. If you

0:17:33.140 --> 0:17:35.689
<v S1>are looking to learn a language, a fantastic product, really

0:17:35.690 --> 0:17:40.160
<v S1>great app. But it's like I'm like speaking French into

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<v S1>my phone and then it's like, well done and tick

0:17:43.340 --> 0:17:45.800
<v S1>and Dustin's like, shut the f up. Like I'm trying

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<v S1>to sleep wipe. I don't want this. It's like, it's

0:17:48.109 --> 0:17:50.990
<v S1>obviously a game. Yeah, it's gamified, which is amazing, but

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<v S1>like it's too overstimulating right before bed. So yeah, that

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<v S1>was quite I remember for two weeks generally like Dawson

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<v S1>was trying to sleep and I'm doing fucking Duolingo next

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<v S1>day it was like.

0:18:02.810 --> 0:18:04.580
<v S2>Yeah, that was not long enough.

0:18:04.820 --> 0:18:06.890
<v S1>I was like going out of the bedroom. And I'm like,

0:18:06.890 --> 0:18:09.050
<v S1>what am I doing? Like, why am I doing this?

0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:12.080
<v S1>Is helping me. There was the why behind my goal

0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:14.479
<v S1>was like, I want to learn French. Why? Yeah. Why.

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<v S1>Like unless you can find time, don't. Yeah. You've got

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<v S1>the rest of your life flaws.

0:18:18.530 --> 0:18:18.980
<v S2>It's a long.

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<v S1>Life. Thank you, thank you, thank you very much.

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<v S3>One, two, three.

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<v S1>Okay, there was a viral TikTok. I feel like a

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<v S1>boomer when I say viral. Viral. I borrow TikTok and

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<v S1>we have to talk about it. It was from a

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<v S1>page called JD Lee, and it was about how Australian

0:18:41.190 --> 0:18:45.870
<v S1>dating rules work, and it was just so funny. And

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<v S1>we've got to play it for you. Hi.

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<v S4>Can someone please explain to me how Australian dating rules work?

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<v S4>Because I don't get it. I do not understand. I

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<v S4>feel like if you say one wrong thing, you're left

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<v S4>on red. And then the amount of dates that have

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<v S4>been organised and then the guys just never texted me again,

0:19:02.220 --> 0:19:06.330
<v S4>has never happened anywhere else in the world. And every

0:19:06.330 --> 0:19:08.340
<v S4>woman I speak to has the exact same horror stories

0:19:08.340 --> 0:19:10.890
<v S4>about Australian men. Someone please elaborate.

0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:15.449
<v S1>I'm embarrassed. I'm embarrassed. Seriously. This is. And then the

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<v S1>best part was people then stitched that TikTok with their

0:19:18.630 --> 0:19:21.480
<v S1>own story, with their own stories, and people came in

0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:25.410
<v S1>with some very good experiences. So the first or not

0:19:25.410 --> 0:19:28.350
<v S1>sorry good is in like I enjoyed watching them. Yeah.

0:19:28.350 --> 0:19:32.310
<v S1>Not to experience in the dating world. So someone said

0:19:32.310 --> 0:19:35.400
<v S1>we don't have rules. You just fight for your life.

0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:37.800
<v S1>This is bad. This is bad for Australia. That's not good.

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<v S1>Oh my god. And Australia equals Neverland, home to the

0:19:41.550 --> 0:19:45.570
<v S1>Lost Boys. Okay, so this is definitely about men I

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<v S1>yeah I, I would have to agree with the stories.

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<v S2>Aussie men love to organise a date and then apparently die.

0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:56.550
<v S1>Yeah. Never never never come. What is it called? Shade. No. Ghost. Ghost.

0:19:56.820 --> 0:20:01.230
<v S1>Shade ghost. Just ghost that I'm in. Like I'm actually

0:20:01.230 --> 0:20:02.940
<v S1>embarrassed for this.

0:20:02.940 --> 0:20:03.660
<v S2>Yeah. This is.

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<v S1>Who would want to be like.

0:20:05.430 --> 0:20:06.659
<v S2>This? Last one's bad.

0:20:07.380 --> 0:20:08.909
<v S1>Read it out, read it out.

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<v S2>Men have this idea that if they put in the

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<v S2>slightest bit of effort, that you will think they're in

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<v S2>love with you.

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<v S1>I just. The bar for men in dating is so low.

0:20:21.220 --> 0:20:24.700
<v S1>It's so low. Like I don't want to be ghosted. No,

0:20:24.700 --> 0:20:27.340
<v S1>I don't want people to waste my time. I don't

0:20:27.340 --> 0:20:29.590
<v S1>want people to make me feel like shit about myself

0:20:29.590 --> 0:20:32.409
<v S1>when they don't even care. Like you're thinking about it

0:20:32.410 --> 0:20:35.770
<v S1>all day and they're like, they forget. Like, are you joking?

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<v S1>I just it just.

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<v S2>Yeah.

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<v S1>This sucks.

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<v S2>It really does.

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<v S1>We really. You need to wake up. Yeah. White men, especially.

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<v S2>Australian men, apparently.

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<v S1>To wake.

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<v S2>Up. Now, we've had some of you guys from our

0:20:47.710 --> 0:20:51.790
<v S2>community also share some things about the Australian dating scene.

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<v S2>So let's jump into those. There are so many amazing

0:20:54.940 --> 0:20:57.670
<v S2>people out there who just keep getting screwed over by

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<v S2>the casual dating culture, and it's honestly so damaging to self-esteem.

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<v S2>I hate it sometimes I just want to give up,

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<v S2>but I keep at it because I want to feel

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<v S2>that type of love. One day I hope things change

0:21:10.570 --> 0:21:13.180
<v S2>for us. Oh, one day I hope things change for you.

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<v S1>I'm sorry Australian men wake up you are impacting people's confidence.

0:21:18.550 --> 0:21:22.240
<v S1>You are? You're serious? You're non. You're not taking it seriously.

0:21:22.359 --> 0:21:25.449
<v S1>Men in Australia you are being too casual and it's

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<v S1>time to stop. Yeah, casual. If you want to be

0:21:28.300 --> 0:21:29.890
<v S1>casual about dating, don't date. And it just.

0:21:29.890 --> 0:21:31.990
<v S2>Makes me think. Like I know of some really decent

0:21:31.990 --> 0:21:34.179
<v S2>guys that are dating, not having a lot of luck,

0:21:34.180 --> 0:21:36.550
<v S2>and I feel like it's these shitty guys that are.

0:21:36.730 --> 0:21:40.510
<v S1>Ruining it for everyone. The casual lads that love to

0:21:40.510 --> 0:21:44.230
<v S1>swipe on illicit pumping know it's pump and dump, isn't it?

0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:46.270
<v S1>I think that's a very disgusting way to.

0:21:46.270 --> 0:21:50.530
<v S2>Say pump and dump is like ejaculate, isn't it? I

0:21:50.530 --> 0:21:53.440
<v S2>don't know, Lindsay's laughing. It's something about ejaculating.

0:21:54.130 --> 0:21:58.780
<v S5>I can't, I use it a lot, but usually that's

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<v S5>what I imagine it means. Anyway.

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<v S1>I've never.

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<v S5>Said it.

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<v S2>Siri, wait, where? Siri ask in.

0:22:04.210 --> 0:22:07.300
<v S1>Dictionary. Uh, a situation where a person has sex with

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<v S1>a partner on a single occasion, without immediate intention or

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<v S1>further contact to pursue a serious relationship. Maybe that's what

0:22:14.980 --> 0:22:18.850
<v S1>the definition of Australian men is. Australian man equals pump

0:22:18.850 --> 0:22:19.450
<v S1>and dump.

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<v S2>This one the worst single again at 33 and I

0:22:22.750 --> 0:22:25.480
<v S2>want to give up. Oh, they always think there is

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<v S2>someone better.

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<v S1>Oh that sucks.

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<v S2>Okay, this is a long one. Being single in your

0:22:32.830 --> 0:22:36.070
<v S2>30s is hard enough with societal expectations and my own

0:22:36.070 --> 0:22:39.400
<v S2>ideas of where I would be at in life, but

0:22:39.400 --> 0:22:41.980
<v S2>these days it is just so hard to meet people

0:22:41.980 --> 0:22:45.010
<v S2>organically at cafes or restaurants. No one looks up from

0:22:45.010 --> 0:22:47.230
<v S2>their phone or wants to venture away from their friends,

0:22:47.230 --> 0:22:49.810
<v S2>which I get, but I don't enjoy going out and drinking,

0:22:49.810 --> 0:22:52.090
<v S2>so a bar slash pub night isn't where I want

0:22:52.090 --> 0:22:54.520
<v S2>to meet someone if that's how they spend their weekends.

0:22:54.520 --> 0:22:57.280
<v S2>Working full time and having a mortgage and bills on

0:22:57.280 --> 0:23:00.460
<v S2>my own is also impacting opportunities to try new things

0:23:00.460 --> 0:23:03.490
<v S2>to meet guys. So I turn into dating apps and

0:23:03.490 --> 0:23:05.470
<v S2>they truly make me want to give up. Whether you're

0:23:05.470 --> 0:23:07.629
<v S2>just vibing with someone, thinking it'll lead to dates or

0:23:07.630 --> 0:23:10.240
<v S2>having casual chatter, they always end up ghosting. I think

0:23:10.240 --> 0:23:12.520
<v S2>the issue with dating apps is that there appears to

0:23:12.520 --> 0:23:15.040
<v S2>be an endless stream of people available, so all the

0:23:15.040 --> 0:23:17.859
<v S2>guys think I'm making a connection with seem to be

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<v S2>looking for someone better in the pile of profiles no

0:23:21.070 --> 0:23:22.540
<v S2>one seems to want to put in the effort to

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<v S2>form a connection, and I'm preparing myself for the fact

0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:27.550
<v S2>that my happily ever after might look different to how

0:23:27.550 --> 0:23:29.379
<v S2>I thought it would. And that's okay.

0:23:29.740 --> 0:23:33.220
<v S1>It is okay. I'm like, that is fucking amazing to

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<v S1>say that, first of all. But second of all, I

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<v S1>you know what? I think with dating apps, it's like

0:23:38.320 --> 0:23:40.690
<v S1>it's great in that like, it's enabled people to meet

0:23:40.690 --> 0:23:43.270
<v S1>people that couldn't have met before because it's just like.

0:23:43.270 --> 0:23:44.020
<v S2>You've got a sea of.

0:23:44.020 --> 0:23:47.320
<v S1>People transactional. It's like, oh, there'll be someone because it's

0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:49.540
<v S1>like you write the profile and then it's like you

0:23:49.540 --> 0:23:51.850
<v S1>compare that like in your head out of ten, and

0:23:51.850 --> 0:23:53.770
<v S1>then you compare the profiles, you're like, oh no, I'm

0:23:53.770 --> 0:23:55.090
<v S1>waiting for a it's so true.

0:23:55.090 --> 0:23:57.700
<v S2>But it's like when you meet someone in real life

0:23:57.700 --> 0:24:00.790
<v S2>and organically, which I know is is different and difficult now,

0:24:00.790 --> 0:24:04.719
<v S2>but it is. You don't have that thought of like, oh,

0:24:04.720 --> 0:24:07.000
<v S2>but there could be like 20 other people tonight that

0:24:07.000 --> 0:24:11.590
<v S2>I'll also catch eye contact with and potentially flirt with. Like, sorry,

0:24:11.590 --> 0:24:13.810
<v S2>that doesn't happen to anyone in the real world. So

0:24:13.810 --> 0:24:16.810
<v S2>but online, yeah, I'm probably going to swipe, you know,

0:24:16.810 --> 0:24:18.700
<v S2>another 30 people tonight and who knows how many of

0:24:18.700 --> 0:24:20.140
<v S2>them are going to swipe back. So it's just like

0:24:20.140 --> 0:24:23.260
<v S2>two too many options that they think the grass is

0:24:23.260 --> 0:24:26.350
<v S2>always greener, that they never actually get to know the person.

0:24:26.350 --> 0:24:27.490
<v S2>And I think that sucks.

0:24:27.490 --> 0:24:30.730
<v S1>And it sucks too, because because of our biological clock.

0:24:30.730 --> 0:24:33.760
<v S1>If you do want to have children, yeah, men don't

0:24:33.760 --> 0:24:36.129
<v S1>have they don't have that stress, so they don't need

0:24:36.130 --> 0:24:39.879
<v S1>to think about it. And so they and also like

0:24:40.090 --> 0:24:43.780
<v S1>yeah they then like even looking at like divorce rates

0:24:43.780 --> 0:24:46.270
<v S1>and then after divorce so often like I know so

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<v S1>many stories about men that then go and date like

0:24:48.760 --> 0:24:54.580
<v S1>really young women and it's like, but I just, I just, um,

0:24:54.820 --> 0:25:02.830
<v S1>I am not for these men sometimes anyway. Okay, okay.

0:25:02.830 --> 0:25:05.350
<v S1>Rocks up to his house for a first date. He

0:25:05.350 --> 0:25:09.250
<v S1>was in his PJs at 3 p.m. drinking a beer.

0:25:09.580 --> 0:25:12.790
<v S1>We've been together for three years. I didn't, I thought

0:25:12.790 --> 0:25:14.649
<v S1>that was going bad, but it's. It's good.

0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:15.480
<v S2>I mean, cute.

0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:17.489
<v S1>But that. Do you know what that tells me? You

0:25:17.490 --> 0:25:20.250
<v S1>don't need to have fancy date to find love. You

0:25:20.250 --> 0:25:20.640
<v S1>don't need.

0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:23.400
<v S2>Also nice things that we put in way too much effort.

0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:26.100
<v S1>You're right. You know, it also says that. Yes. Okay.

0:25:26.100 --> 0:25:27.780
<v S1>Match with the guy on Tinder and send him an

0:25:27.780 --> 0:25:31.320
<v S1>opening question asking if you could blink and go anywhere

0:25:31.320 --> 0:25:37.310
<v S1>in the world, where would you go? Are. I can't

0:25:37.310 --> 0:25:42.889
<v S1>read this because again, this is embarrassing for Australia. What

0:25:42.890 --> 0:25:43.129
<v S1>did he.

0:25:43.130 --> 0:25:43.370
<v S2>Say?

0:25:43.940 --> 0:25:50.780
<v S1>He says. Between your tits? No. Who said romance was dead?

0:25:50.810 --> 0:25:51.290
<v S2>No.

0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:54.440
<v S1>Old mate Brad from Tinder did. That is. No.

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<v S2>No. If you.

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<v S1>Could go.

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<v S2>In my world. Is that hot? That's not in anyone's world.

0:26:00.109 --> 0:26:03.110
<v S1>Hot, mate. Say, Italy. Say something else with you.

0:26:03.140 --> 0:26:03.440
<v S2>Maybe.

0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:04.760
<v S1>Queen your tits.

0:26:05.420 --> 0:26:06.260
<v S2>I think you're gonna say between.

0:26:06.380 --> 0:26:09.440
<v S1>So don't call them tits like in the first thing

0:26:09.440 --> 0:26:09.950
<v S1>I know.

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<v S2>Who the fuck?

0:26:10.850 --> 0:26:13.130
<v S1>Like you're not entitled to tits. No one.

0:26:13.130 --> 0:26:15.770
<v S2>No one. They're not tits.

0:26:15.770 --> 0:26:19.520
<v S1>Unless, like, once you're together. And you. You've established that

0:26:19.520 --> 0:26:20.570
<v S1>I don't. Sure.

0:26:20.570 --> 0:26:21.380
<v S2>Okay. Maybe it.

0:26:21.380 --> 0:26:22.879
<v S1>Could be for people, but don't.

0:26:22.880 --> 0:26:23.360
<v S2>Know.

0:26:23.359 --> 0:26:24.650
<v S1>Don't slide in with that.

0:26:24.650 --> 0:26:26.030
<v S2>No, you can't slide in with that.

0:26:26.060 --> 0:26:26.720
<v S1>Ah.

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<v S2>Ah. When men don't want to date me because I'm

0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:36.170
<v S2>a career focused woman. Well, those men can. I actually.

0:26:36.170 --> 0:26:38.689
<v S1>Generally think. And from a lot of friends I've spoken

0:26:38.690 --> 0:26:41.870
<v S1>to a lot of men. Ah. And it's not. I

0:26:41.869 --> 0:26:45.530
<v S1>understand why like where it's come from. Like internally. It's

0:26:45.530 --> 0:26:49.430
<v S1>not right. But they are intimidated by a partner that

0:26:49.430 --> 0:26:51.500
<v S1>would make more money with them than them, or have

0:26:51.500 --> 0:26:52.790
<v S1>more success than them.

0:26:52.820 --> 0:26:55.580
<v S2>Sad. That's very sad. Oh.

0:26:56.180 --> 0:26:57.830
<v S1>Don't stop your career because of it.

0:26:57.890 --> 0:27:01.790
<v S2>Oh. My boyfriend. Absolutely not. Oh, no. What are we

0:27:01.790 --> 0:27:04.310
<v S2>entering on? Yeah. You know. Ah, this one's fine.

0:27:04.820 --> 0:27:08.090
<v S1>This one. I think this is fine. This is okay.

0:27:08.420 --> 0:27:11.150
<v S1>Australian man to do this. Yes. A guy once took

0:27:11.150 --> 0:27:13.730
<v S1>me on a date to a fish and chip shop. Ah,

0:27:13.730 --> 0:27:16.190
<v S1>I think that's that's fine. What? One of my dream

0:27:16.190 --> 0:27:19.609
<v S1>dates is like. I don't sitting at a table across

0:27:19.609 --> 0:27:22.369
<v S1>from each other because I'm awkward as worst night. I'd just, like,

0:27:22.369 --> 0:27:24.439
<v S1>so awkward. I don't like silence. And I feel it.

0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:27.680
<v S1>I talk to you. I just say so many things. Anyway,

0:27:28.250 --> 0:27:30.109
<v S1>for me, going for a walk or like going and

0:27:30.109 --> 0:27:31.879
<v S1>getting fish and chips and like sitting on the beach

0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:34.130
<v S1>or something, or somewhere, like at a park where you're not,

0:27:34.130 --> 0:27:36.470
<v S1>like directly facing each other. And there's some time where

0:27:36.470 --> 0:27:38.540
<v S1>you just like looking, you know, to eye contact the

0:27:38.540 --> 0:27:40.220
<v S1>whole time. I think that's really good. So I think

0:27:40.220 --> 0:27:40.639
<v S1>it's good.

0:27:40.640 --> 0:27:43.820
<v S2>That's fine. Using your hands, that's fine. He's already not

0:27:43.820 --> 0:27:46.399
<v S2>the type that you need to, like, order a salad

0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:49.460
<v S2>around and worry about, you know, food going everywhere because

0:27:49.460 --> 0:27:51.560
<v S2>he's ordered you finger food. As long as he.

0:27:51.890 --> 0:27:54.890
<v S1>Doesn't just get chips and potato cakes, like, at least

0:27:54.890 --> 0:27:57.500
<v S1>get a gym sim in there. I think it would

0:27:57.500 --> 0:28:00.890
<v S1>be more about that. Anyway, that was actually really depressing,

0:28:01.369 --> 0:28:04.310
<v S1>and I'm really sorry that this is if you don't,

0:28:04.310 --> 0:28:08.629
<v S1>for all of our international listeners outside of Australia, if

0:28:08.630 --> 0:28:10.430
<v S1>you don't come here, if you want to come to

0:28:10.430 --> 0:28:12.440
<v S1>Australia for a boyfriend because we both.

0:28:12.440 --> 0:28:13.610
<v S2>Date Australian men.

0:28:13.609 --> 0:28:15.350
<v S1>Well, yeah, but I do.

0:28:15.350 --> 0:28:17.480
<v S2>Plenty of Australian men who are fine. There's obviously just

0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:20.210
<v S2>a huge sea of them with massive egos, and it's

0:28:20.210 --> 0:28:20.840
<v S2>very sad.

0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:23.840
<v S1>The fact that the TikTok person said this has never

0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:26.449
<v S1>happened in any other country. It's very sad. I think

0:28:26.450 --> 0:28:31.340
<v S1>Australian men are these IT thing that's not changing in

0:28:31.340 --> 0:28:35.930
<v S1>this equation. Interesting. Anyway, and obviously, as I said, this

0:28:35.930 --> 0:28:39.860
<v S1>is not all Australian men. There are lovely, wonderful Australian

0:28:39.860 --> 0:28:43.850
<v S1>men here and people, but there are also some bad

0:28:43.850 --> 0:28:44.600
<v S1>fish in the sea.

0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:46.070
<v S2>You've had fish in the sea.

0:28:46.700 --> 0:28:51.290
<v S6>So what is your temperature? What is it? Time for

0:28:51.380 --> 0:28:52.520
<v S6>special share.

0:28:53.570 --> 0:28:54.080
<v S7>Shit.

0:28:55.700 --> 0:28:56.300
<v S2>Aussie.

0:28:56.330 --> 0:28:56.900
<v S1>Yes.

0:28:57.950 --> 0:29:00.020
<v S4>I have a book for you today. Oh the book.

0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:03.410
<v S1>Did your book okay? My book is good material by

0:29:03.410 --> 0:29:07.160
<v S1>Dolly Alderton. Oh yes. Yeah. And I really liked it.

0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:11.810
<v S1>It is about dating. It's the most real experience. Basically,

0:29:11.810 --> 0:29:17.060
<v S1>it's a couple breakup and then it's the experience of

0:29:17.060 --> 0:29:20.990
<v S1>mainly 80% is the guy. Oh, actually, I reckon 90%

0:29:20.990 --> 0:29:23.690
<v S1>is the guy's experience of the breakup. He's the one

0:29:23.690 --> 0:29:26.540
<v S1>who's broken up with. And then at the end you

0:29:26.540 --> 0:29:29.540
<v S1>get to hear from the female perspective. And she was

0:29:29.540 --> 0:29:32.570
<v S1>the one who broke up with him. Okay. It is

0:29:32.570 --> 0:29:36.050
<v S1>so interesting. And it is the most when I say

0:29:36.050 --> 0:29:40.400
<v S1>interesting to read the actual reality of a breakup, because

0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:42.230
<v S1>I feel like there's a lot of like online. It's like,

0:29:42.230 --> 0:29:44.240
<v S1>just get over it. It's like people break up with people.

0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:47.240
<v S1>It is what it is, whatever it's actually and like

0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:50.150
<v S1>to actually go into the detail of how it impacts

0:29:50.150 --> 0:29:53.690
<v S1>someone's life in, like all facets was it was so

0:29:53.690 --> 0:29:56.000
<v S1>honest and just I was like, fuck, this is actually

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:58.490
<v S1>so true. And then also from the perspective of the

0:29:58.490 --> 0:30:00.800
<v S1>person who broke up with that person, yeah, it doesn't

0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:03.350
<v S1>mean it's not just it's not easy for them and

0:30:03.350 --> 0:30:05.720
<v S1>it's and it also goes into like there's so many

0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:07.850
<v S1>reasons why because so often you were saying like, oh,

0:30:07.850 --> 0:30:10.460
<v S1>it's because there's someone else. But that's not often the reason.

0:30:10.460 --> 0:30:13.130
<v S1>There's so many other reasons why people break up. It was,

0:30:13.130 --> 0:30:15.290
<v S1>I have to say, if you are reading it or

0:30:15.290 --> 0:30:17.330
<v S1>you want to read it, it's too long in the middle.

0:30:17.750 --> 0:30:20.300
<v S1>They could have I just I think 20% of the

0:30:20.300 --> 0:30:23.780
<v S1>man's story could have been cut out. It was bits

0:30:23.780 --> 0:30:25.610
<v S1>where I was like, do I keep going with this book?

0:30:25.850 --> 0:30:28.160
<v S1>But I'm very glad in the end that I've read

0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:30.470
<v S1>it and I persevered. So it's definitely special. I do

0:30:30.470 --> 0:30:32.930
<v S1>recommend reading it, but don't give up in the middle

0:30:32.930 --> 0:30:35.300
<v S1>where you're like, this is dragging on because I did

0:30:35.300 --> 0:30:36.860
<v S1>drag in the middle, but then it was a really

0:30:36.860 --> 0:30:40.010
<v S1>good at the engine. Good start. Yeah. Nice. Yeah, yeah.

0:30:40.010 --> 0:30:40.730
<v S1>So recommend.

0:30:40.730 --> 0:30:41.360
<v S2>I'm excited.

0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:42.620
<v S1>To read it. Yeah. You'll like it.

0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:47.520
<v S2>My book is called the Seven Year Sleep. By Ashley Paulson.

0:30:48.030 --> 0:30:50.490
<v S2>And I really enjoyed it. It is about can I

0:30:50.490 --> 0:30:52.890
<v S2>say the color? Yes you can. It is about a

0:30:52.890 --> 0:31:00.030
<v S2>girl who moves into her aunties, her late aunties old apartment. Um,

0:31:00.030 --> 0:31:02.640
<v S2>and it's there's a bit of magic to the apartment.

0:31:02.640 --> 0:31:06.090
<v S2>And that made it sound like a like a fantasy.

0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:09.270
<v S2>It's not. Um, it's more like I'm trying to think

0:31:09.270 --> 0:31:12.120
<v S2>of that movie, that classic movie where they're, like, leaving letters.

0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:13.860
<v S2>And the person who lived there years ago, what was

0:31:13.860 --> 0:31:15.510
<v S2>that movie called? I don't know.

0:31:15.540 --> 0:31:16.950
<v S5>Oh, the lake house?

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<v S1>Yes, the lake house.

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<v S2>It's kind of like there's two decades of it happening

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<v S2>in the same location anyway. Um, it's a really beautiful

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<v S2>love story. And also just a cool story about a

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<v S2>woman in New York. Um, as a publisher, a book publisher.

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<v S1>I think I'd love it. It's good. Any book set

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<v S1>in New York? I also love reading about book publishers.

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<v S1>Laughs I just, I really any magazines, publishers, I just

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<v S1>it's good. I love those stories. I'm gonna read it like.

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<v S2>Little bits throughout the book that like all then like

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<v S2>it just there's a lot. It just makes sense, make sense,

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<v S2>make sense, make sense. I really miss it. Uh, 300.

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<v S1>Something. Okay, so not too long.

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<v S2>No no no. Okay. No no no. Um, fairly easy read,

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<v S2>but I just really enjoyed it. It was nice. Thank you.

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