WEBVTT - A revealing conversation about our sex lives

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<v S1>Listener.

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<v S2>Keepod acknowledges the traditional owners and custodians of the land

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<v S2>in which we're recording this podcast. The Ulucay Wulan clan

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<v S2>of the Bunurong, who are part of the Kulin nation.

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<v S2>We pay our respects to our elders, past and present,

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<v S2>and extend our respect to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander

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<v S2>peoples today.

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<v S3>Welcome to the Kick Pod, a.

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<v S2>Dam with your besties on the stuff that matters.

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<v S4>One. Two. Three.

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<v UU>One. Two. Three.

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<v S3>Hello, hello. Oh, Steffi, you poor thing with your voice. Yeah.

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<v S3>It's like it's it's slowly hanging on in there.

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<v S2>Guys, I have had a throat.

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<v S3>Infection and it's inflamed my entire throat. I'm actually on

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<v S3>Laura's puffer. We're on matching asthma medication, so I take

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<v S3>a preventer four times a day. Have basically my entire life.

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<v S3>And Steph is now on the exact same preventer, even

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<v S3>the same dosage. Yeah, it's really weird. Like.

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<v S2>My doctor asked me, like two times because I, I

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<v S2>don't have, like a doctor that I see every time

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<v S2>I'm trying to work through that, because I really miss

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<v S2>that feeling. When I was growing up, I had one

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<v S2>doctor and I saw her every time there was anything

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<v S2>wrong with me for like 18 years.

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<v S3>Do you know what I love about this, Stephanie? We

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<v S3>have been talking about you getting a family doctor for

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<v S3>five years. I know, I know, I.

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<v S2>Have lived in the.

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<v S3>Area now for like five out of Balwyn, uh, 12

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<v S3>years ago. I know it's so.

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<v S2>Insane, but I, like I go to the same place now.

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<v S2>I've at least, like, picked my place, funnily enough, not

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<v S2>in my suburb. Like stupid. It's still like 20 minutes away.

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<v S2>But anyway, that's where I've been going. It's where, like,

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<v S2>Josh and Harvey, they have all the info because, you know,

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<v S2>you have to, like, go through the first appointment again.

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<v S2>It's always more expensive and like more info and blah

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<v S2>blah blah. So we've just kept going back to the

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<v S2>same place. But I haven't necessarily had the same doctor

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<v S2>every time. But the one I had, she asked me

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<v S2>like 2 or 3 times in the appointment if I

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<v S2>have my asthma, if I'm sure I don't have asthma

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<v S2>because of how inflamed my throat was. And I was like, no,

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<v S2>like I, I very highly doubt I've gone through my

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<v S2>whole life and everything. And she was like, okay, well,

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<v S2>it might just be, you know, because you've got a

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<v S2>really infected throat. But she said, there's nothing I can

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<v S2>give you for the infection because it's passing, but like,

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<v S2>you need to be able to breathe. So here's a puffer. Um,

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<v S2>and I have to take it every single morning and

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<v S2>night and preferably in the middle of the day. And

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<v S2>then any time, like if I've done exercise or I've

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<v S2>got at the top of the stairs and I'm struggling

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<v S2>to breathe, like basically any time throughout the day that

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<v S2>I need it as well. Um, which was great timing,

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<v S2>and I'm glad I went to the doctors because we've

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<v S2>just finished a week filming new kick workouts, which luckily

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<v S2>for me, and I'm not going to go into what

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<v S2>they were, but luckily for me, a lot of mine

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<v S2>were quite gentle because if it was like hit or something, which, okay,

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<v S2>I've given you a clue, it's not hit. I probably

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<v S2>wouldn't have been able to do it. Like any time

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<v S2>my heart rate went up this week, I was really

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<v S2>struggling to breathe. So that's why my voice sounds the

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<v S2>way it does. Um, apologies. It's not even like a sexy.

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<v S3>You know, it sounds sexy. You sound unwell.

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<v S2>Yeah, but I feel fine. Like I feel totally fine.

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<v S3>It's just been a grim week for you. Yeah. Anyway,

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<v S3>it has. But I'm really grateful to be an asthma

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<v S3>twin with you. Shout out to any clad lungs that

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<v S3>also have asthma. Thank you. That's what it's called. Well.

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<v S3>Oh my goodness me. Okay. Well on that note. Yeah

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<v S3>on that, on that note about asthma. We have got.

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<v S2>Quite the gear.

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<v S3>Change. Quite the gear change. Because our sax collection, as

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<v S3>you would know, is live. And the feedback has just

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<v S3>been surreal. It's just been incredible to see how many

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<v S3>of you are loving the collection. And we are just

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<v S3>so grateful for all of your support. And seriously, every

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<v S3>time we launch something into the world, there's always this

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<v S3>feeling like I have the night before of like, is

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<v S3>this gonna like. Will people like it? Like, I don't know,

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<v S3>I feel like you would think that because we, you know,

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<v S3>the first collection sold out in 30 minutes. You think

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<v S3>we'd go into this one? Obviously we have confidence, but

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<v S3>it's just like it's always something in the back of

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<v S3>your head of like, oh my goodness, will people like it? Like,

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<v S3>you never know. And you guys have and we're just

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<v S3>we're so grateful.

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<v S2>When we wanted to do it again, we wanted to

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<v S2>make sure that we took everything that we know you

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<v S2>loved about the first collection, and then just find more

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<v S2>things that we thought you would love. Um, and so

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<v S2>in this collection, there is some of the favorite pieces

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<v S2>from the last one. Um, but we've also got some

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<v S2>brand new pieces, and these are pieces that stacks have

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<v S2>never designed before. So it was really fun to go

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<v S2>through the whole process with Dawn, um, and actually be

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<v S2>a part of that design and get the samples and

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<v S2>everything and get it perfect. Um, and so we're really excited.

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<v S2>It's also in their iconic premium seamless fabric, which is

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<v S2>so comfortable and so functional. I personally love training in it.

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<v S2>It's probably if you watch any of my like, workout

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<v S2>content 80% of the time I'm in the premium seamless gear,

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<v S2>so we wanted to mix it up because the last

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<v S2>collection was in their Nan Dex material. And what we

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<v S2>love about stacks is their dedication to inclusivity. So every

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<v S2>piece that we've got is available from Size Extra, Extra

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<v S2>Small to four XL. And we are so excited for

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<v S2>your deliveries to arrive because we just want to see

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<v S2>you guys in it. So please, if you feel comfortable,

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<v S2>we'd love to see your post-workout selfies. Or maybe when

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<v S2>you just get the delivery, pop it on, make sure

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<v S2>you tag us so we see it. Share them in

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<v S2>our Facebook community if you want. We're just yeah, so

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<v S2>keen to have them in your hands.

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<v S3>And if you want to get your hands on the collection,

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<v S3>you can shop it now on the stacks website. We

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<v S3>will put the link in the show notes. So the

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<v S3>other week I was at the airport on a Sunday

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<v S3>and the Good Weekend magazine was there and I was like, well,

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<v S3>I will have a read of this. So I flicked

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<v S3>through and one article in particular got my attention and

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<v S3>I read it and I loved it, and it was

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<v S3>very well written was by Nikki Gemmell and it was

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<v S3>called a fitting climax. Gen Z are cottoning on to

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<v S3>this unequal dynamic. Now it got me thinking about the

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<v S3>orgasm gap, because that was essentially what it was about.

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<v S3>And what I loved about this article was it spoke

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<v S3>about how Gen Z are actually reportedly like from all

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<v S3>the surveys that have been done and research having less

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<v S3>sex and a reason for that. One of the reasons

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<v S3>is because the orgasm gap is still very much exists.

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<v S3>Like when I say the orgasm gap for everyone listening

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<v S3>that maybe hasn't heard of it before. When women and

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<v S3>men have sex, men have way more orgasms than women.

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<v S2>So on average, on average.

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<v S3>Exactly right. So it was there was a study from

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<v S3>in the US journal Sexual Medicine called The Lifelong Orgasm

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<v S3>Gap exploring age's impact on orgasm rates was an eight

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<v S3>year study. So it's actually quite a long study with

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<v S3>25,000 Americans. Now, it wasn't American Studies only article. They

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<v S3>were like our Australians the same. Likely they are between

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<v S3>18 to 100 years old. Go off to those over

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<v S3>honestly 80 still going at it. Amazing. The study found

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<v S3>that men orgasm 75 to 80% during heterosexual intercourse, and

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<v S3>women orgasmed 46 to 58% during heterosexual intercourse, and women

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<v S3>would orgasm much more, or they do in same sex relationships.

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<v S3>So the gap there is rather large. That's like almost 30%,

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<v S3>a little bit more. So depending. That's crazy right? And

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<v S3>what this article was talking about was how Gen Z.

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<v S3>Maybe they've cottoned onto it and they would prefer to

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<v S3>just not have it, not to have sex and to

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<v S3>self-pleasure instead. And I'm like, fucking sorry to swear. Sorry.

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<v S3>I should have warned before, but go off like. Seriously.

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<v S3>I just feel like we don't need to live in

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<v S3>a world anymore. Where as women we have shit sex

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<v S3>like we don't. And for a one night stand, like,

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<v S3>it's just. We just don't need to because we're so

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<v S3>much more empowered. There's so many more options for us

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<v S3>than before.

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<v S2>I agree, I think there's just a lot more information

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<v S2>about it too. Like I think even like in movies

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<v S2>and TV shows and stuff like that, things like consent

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<v S2>or talking about what you like during sex, like all

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<v S2>of that is so much more apparent in movies now.

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<v S2>Whereas like the movies we grew up watching, they would

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<v S2>just like bang together. They'd both climax at the same time.

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<v S2>It's so true. How fucking often does that happen? Exactly?

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<v S2>So like, it's just we had this unrealistic expectation of sex.

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<v S2>And I remember with past relationships I would fake an

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<v S2>orgasm because I was like, well, it hasn't happened yet,

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<v S2>but I know it probably should have, so blah. Well, I.

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<v S3>Know it's not going to and my clitoris is numb

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<v S3>and I am done here.

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<v S2>So like it's really I do remember what that like

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<v S2>felt like to just either like, not be interested in

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<v S2>it or just like, feel like I faked it because

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<v S2>there was something wrong with me, because I didn't know

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<v S2>how like it should feel or whatever. Um, very, very,

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<v S2>very grateful that I'm now in a loving relationship where

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<v S2>he makes it a top priority that I have that

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<v S2>at the very least, like, it's like he puts my

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<v S2>my needs or wants before his, which is amazing. Um,

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<v S2>but that's how it should be, right? If you're not,

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<v S2>if you're not enjoying it, you should feel comfortable with

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<v S2>the person that you're having sex with to speak about

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<v S2>it and to like, direct them or whatever. And I

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<v S2>feel like Gen Zs, and it's not even just in sex.

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<v S2>It's in so many different corners of life now. They

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<v S2>are empowered to do things like that because they know

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<v S2>they know more than we did.

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<v S3>They do. And I'm.

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<v S2>So happy.

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<v S3>I agree. I'm like, go off seriously. And the other

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<v S3>thing as well was in this article is and we

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<v S3>already know this, we know it's much harder for but again,

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<v S3>you just said in movies people have an orgasm in sex, right? Women.

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<v S2>That's so hard.

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<v S3>Only so 80% of women cannot orgasm with just penetration

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<v S3>in a heterosexual relationship or sexual experience. So I think

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<v S3>that's super important to remember as well, because again, people

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<v S3>think I do think women can often think like you

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<v S3>just said, Steffi, there's something wrong with us. If we

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<v S3>can't orgasm during penetration, it doesn't mean that we don't

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<v S3>enjoy sex, but it is actually really difficult to do so.

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<v S3>Now the other thing, there's a lot of sexy news.

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<v S3>The other thing that came out on the weekend is

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<v S3>the Body and Soul 2024 Sex Census, which is amazing.

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<v S3>They have done Body and Soul Team. They've done so

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<v S3>much work on this. It was a nationwide survey of

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<v S3>2000 people aged 18 to 75. So nationwide in Australia,

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<v S3>all sexualities, metro and regional areas. And okay, so how

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<v S3>long do you think on average does sex last?

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<v S2>What is it like you've started having intercourse and like how? Yeah.

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<v S2>On average, yeah seven minutes.

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<v S3>Oh, I actually would have said that too, but at 16.5. Wait, what?

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<v S3>I know people. What the fuck? Did people tell the truth? Jesus.

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<v S2>I mean, maybe. Well, you know, that's not always a

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<v S2>good thing. Maybe it's just. Maybe they're having sex with

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<v S2>someone for the first time, and it's just not working out.

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<v S2>It's taken a long time to get there. Or they're

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<v S2>really enjoying it. And they're going for multiple orgasms, which again,

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<v S2>go off. Off. Exactly.

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<v S3>Love. Okay. 16% of women have an orgasm. Oh, here

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<v S3>you go. This is around having sex in Australia. 16%

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<v S3>of women have an orgasm every time they have sex,

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<v S3>compared to 44% of men. Again, a gap. 93% of

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<v S3>people most regularly have sex in bed. Thank you. Oh, fuck.

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<v S3>Thank you. I love this too, because I feel like

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<v S3>sometimes you feel pressure to again from the movies. Movies

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<v S3>have just ruined our idea of what sex is. But

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<v S3>on the I would honestly, having sex on the kitchen

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<v S3>bench is not of interest to me. A hard Surface.

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<v S3>That's cold. Yeah. No. And has pointy edges. Just not

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<v S3>when you have a comfortable bed.

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<v S2>Yeah. Also, just like the height never works out. True. Like,

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<v S2>who the fuck is that tall? Who? What male is

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<v S2>that tall? That they can penetrate someone on top of

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<v S2>a kitchen bench? I feel like that's, like, quite so true.

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<v S3>But what? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And what about what's the movie?

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<v S3>There's a movie with Channing Tatum. Mhm.

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<v S2>Magic Mike.

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<v S3>Magic. Magic. The last magic Mike. Yes it is. And

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<v S3>he is someone that in movies. But that's magic Mike.

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<v S3>I know. Gives the perception that sex can be had

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<v S3>in every single location.

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<v S2>And I think with the magic Mike person.

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<v S3>It probably is because it's just different.

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<v S2>But that's not that's not your average sex.

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<v S3>The reality. Okay. True true true. Okay. Uh, 1 in

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<v S3>4 people have had sex with someone within six hours

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<v S3>of meeting them.

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<v S2>Oh, yeah, that makes sense. Like a one night stand?

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<v S3>Yeah. Majority of women say. Or what do you think

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<v S3>majority of women say is their favorite position versus men?

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<v S2>I reckon most women say mhm. Actually I was going

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<v S2>to say missionary, but I reckon maybe being on top missionary.

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<v S3>Really.

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<v S2>Okay.

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<v S3>Is that say missionary when you're on the bottom. Oh

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<v S3>my favorite. Yeah. Because you do less low effort but

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<v S3>see like my.

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<v S2>Favorite is actually being on top.

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<v S3>Because.

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<v S2>That way I actually can. That's the only position where

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<v S2>I know how I can climax.

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<v S3>Oh, there you go. Yeah.

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<v S2>No other position works for me.

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<v S3>Okay.

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<v S2>So that's why I like being on the top. Because

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<v S2>I'm in control. Um. And then men, I think.

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<v S3>Doggy. Yeah, 100%. Why do you think that?

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<v S2>I don't know, because they're like, feel like they're powerful.

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<v S2>I don't know what it is.

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<v S3>Mhm.

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<v S2>Why, what is it.

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<v S3>I think that no I don't know. I thought I

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<v S3>would have like a. Why is that.

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<v S2>Why is that option.

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<v S3>More than 30. Oh my God! Steffi! This is such

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<v S3>a slave for you and also me. 39% of people

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<v S3>schedule it in. I love that, I feel like. Exactly.

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<v S3>And it is okay. And it doesn't make it unsexy.

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<v S3>And if you are scheduling in your sex, so is

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<v S3>almost half of the population of people having sex. 10%

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<v S3>of people aged 18 to 27 have never had sex.

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<v S3>I love that too, because obviously if you haven't found

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<v S3>someone you want to have sex with, it's fine. Yeah, exactly. 77.

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<v S3>Oh my goodness. Okay. How many people? Percentage of people.

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<v S3>I've already said it. Seven. Yeah. Okay. Admitted to cheating

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<v S3>with their boss.

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<v S2>7% of people?

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<v S3>Quite a lot. Wow. That is actually quite a lot.

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<v S3>That is a lot more than I thought. Okay. Okay.

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<v S3>Moving right on. 3% fantasize about their barista. Oh, that's.

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<v S2>They are always very charming, though, I feel. No, as in, like, my.

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<v S3>Baristas a lady. And. Yeah, it's not for me.

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<v S2>That character is, like, very like charming. Like how many?

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<v S2>I've not my local ones, but I've.

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<v S3>Gone to cafes, just to be.

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<v S2>Clear. But I've gone to cafes before, like, oh, I'm

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<v S2>driving by and I need to get a coffee before

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<v S2>something or whatever, and I'll pull in and they're very

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<v S2>chatty and very charismatic.

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<v S3>I've actually never felt anything. I mean, I love baristas,

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<v S3>I think they're gorgeous and I love I feel joy

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<v S3>from them, but I've never felt sexual attraction.

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<v S2>No, I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that I have.

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<v S2>What I'm.

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<v S3>Saying is. But fantasy. Have you fantasized about them? No, no.

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<v S3>But you know why people have.

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<v S2>I know why people have. Because they can be very

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<v S2>charismatic people. Because they're like talking to people all day

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<v S2>and they're like, what are you doing? Or, like, try this.

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<v S3>Okay, whatever. No, I love it.

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<v S2>I haven't and I wouldn't, but I can see why.

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<v S3>Well, maybe you would. You never know. Like, it's.

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<v S2>Different to like, a postman. Actually, our postman is really friendly.

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<v S2>I would not actually fantasize about.

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<v S3>Him, but. Okay.

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<v S2>What I was getting at. Is there a.

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<v S3>Profession? Only 3%. So I feel like it's not. Actually,

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<v S3>it's more 4% more people have admitted to cheating with

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<v S3>their boss. So we're not talking about 30% here, just three.

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<v S3>So I think I just want to crawl in, I

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<v S3>think is the sexiest profession. Oh, that's a lot of saliva.

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<v S3>Went right up. Um.

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<v S2>That's a really good question. I actually think tradies are okay.

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<v S3>There's something.

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<v S2>About tradies for.

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<v S3>Me, not for me.

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<v S2>I mean, almost all of my exes have been tradies.

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<v S3>So I mean, not that handyman. I find it so attractive.

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<v S3>It is. Yeah. To be able to fix a doorknob

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<v S3>or something. I don't know why I thought of a doorknob,

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<v S3>but thank you. Yeah, and I don't know.

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<v S2>There's something about dirty tradie shorts and hard steel boots.

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<v S3>So do you know why I don't I don't find

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<v S3>and obviously tradies like if any tradies listening. Love you.

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<v S3>Thank you for listening. You are a cloud ling. But

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<v S3>the reason I don't. That wouldn't be the one for

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<v S3>me is because I have been woof whistled so many

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<v S3>times and it makes me so angry. Yeah. Fair enough.

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<v S3>A lot of them. And when you're like when, if

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<v S3>you're if I'm running and then they're all like, say, turn.

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<v S3>And then I look at them and I put my

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<v S3>finger up and I run and I cover my butt

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<v S3>with my hands. I know, I get so angry. It

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<v S3>just makes me so. I just feel like objectified, I

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<v S3>hate it. So anyway. But there you go. There you go, guys.

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<v S3>Let us know. I really want to know. What are

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<v S3>you surprised by these stats? Are any of these stats like.

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<v S3>Did anything bring up a story for you? So if

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<v S3>you thought if do you fantasize about your barista? Have

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<v S3>you cheated with your boss? Is do you schedule it in?

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<v S3>Is it what here surprised you or didn't surprise you?

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<v S3>And what stories do you have? I want to know. Okay,

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<v S3>we want to know. We want to know. So please

0:17:14.170 --> 0:17:17.949
<v S3>send them in to our Instagram at Kick Pod. DM us.

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<v S3>You can send a voice note or write it out.

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<v S3>And yeah, I cannot wait to hear.

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<v S4>One. Two three.

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<v S2>Last week we spoke about some plumbing disasters, particularly Laura's

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<v S2>one where shit was literally appearing in her bath and shower.

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<v S3>Yuck. In the drain in the drain.

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<v S2>And I shared that I almost shattered my father in

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<v S2>law's head through plumbing. And so we just knew that

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<v S2>we weren't alone in these plumbing stories. And you guys

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<v S2>have come with the goods.

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<v S3>You've come with the goods. Okay, so the first one here.

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<v S3>So I had just started a new job fresh out

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<v S3>of uni, and I wasn't a fan of being able

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<v S3>to see who goes into the toilet and when they

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<v S3>come out. Can I just say I agree? I agree.

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<v S3>I don't want to know. Nobody I don't want to know.

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<v S3>I do not want to know. Normally I would just

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<v S3>hold my urine at work. I always find it so

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<v S3>impressive for people. There's some people that actually don't go

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<v S3>to the toilet. I'm pretty good at it. I can

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<v S3>hold quite well. No, I go, but I'm also not super,

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<v S3>super regular. So, like, I feel like it's easier for

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<v S3>me to hold. Um, but yeah, I do, I feel you. Okay,

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<v S3>so usually I just wait until I get home. But

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<v S3>one day I went. One day I thought I would

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<v S3>just get over my fear and go because I really

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<v S3>needed to go. So off I went. I know this

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<v S3>is not going to be good. And I began stressing

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<v S3>that people will know I have been gone for so long.

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<v S3>So I finish up and it's time to flush. The

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<v S3>poo does not disappear. Oh my God, this is my

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<v S3>worst nightmare at work. So I flush again and again.

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<v S3>Nothing I now know full well I have been gone

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<v S3>for half an hour so I start panicking. Then I

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<v S3>realize also just a warning here. This might be TMI.

0:19:02.380 --> 0:19:05.050
<v S3>The poo is stuck because it's bigger than the hole

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<v S3>in the toilet. What the heck? Is it because you've

0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:12.160
<v S3>been holding on all week? Because you haven't? Oh my God.

0:19:12.490 --> 0:19:15.940
<v S3>And I think to myself, fuck, I'm going to either

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<v S3>have to grab grab this thing out, like, like wash

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<v S3>it out of the pool. Where the fuck was I

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<v S3>going to put it? So true, because it goes in

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<v S3>the toilet or push or. Oh my God, I'll push

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<v S3>it down.

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<v S2>Oh my God. Oh my God.

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<v S3>So I decided on the less disgusting and hands on

0:19:41.970 --> 0:19:44.820
<v S3>approach and rap. I don't know if there's anything less

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<v S3>disgusting here. Rap my hand in a million layers of

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<v S3>toilet paper. Pray to the toilet gods. Press the flesh

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<v S3>and nudge the poo at the same time. And it worked.

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<v S3>Holy fucking shit. Talk about poo trauma. No pun intended.

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<v S3>Let's say I didn't put work again. And when I

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<v S3>started at my next job and realized the toilets were

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<v S3>more private and away from the office desk desks, I

0:20:12.540 --> 0:20:17.940
<v S3>was a happy gal. Oh my God, my actual God. Yeah,

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<v S3>that is my worst nightmare. And also also if you

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<v S3>have to call a plumber at work if the toilet.

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<v S3>It also, do you know how much it costs to

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<v S3>call a plumber to unblock a poo in a toilet?

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<v S3>I don't want to know. It's like close to $1,000.

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<v S2>No, I would not. I would put toilet paper over

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<v S2>and run and I'd be like, that wasn't me. Who

0:20:34.660 --> 0:20:38.800
<v S2>the fuck did that? No fucking way. Not at work. No.

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<v S3>Imagine. And because it wouldn't, you wouldn't. You'd probably go

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<v S3>to em.

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<v S2>Yeah, exactly. Our head of.

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<v S3>Ops and say. Not that Em's job is to, like,

0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:49.659
<v S3>fix the toilet, obviously, but it's just em is like

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<v S3>the mother of our office and would know what to do,

0:20:52.180 --> 0:20:55.660
<v S3>and I feel like I. Oh my God. Oh my God.

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<v S2>You know what I, I I've spoken before about my

0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:01.659
<v S2>bowel issues on this podcast before. And if you, if

0:21:01.690 --> 0:21:04.210
<v S2>you weren't here from that like really long story short,

0:21:04.210 --> 0:21:07.720
<v S2>I like my stomach. Like if I don't go to

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<v S2>the toilet, I then feel incredibly, really uncomfortable. And I

0:21:11.619 --> 0:21:13.300
<v S2>also feel like I'm going to fart and it's going

0:21:13.330 --> 0:21:15.910
<v S2>to smell. So like I just go to the toilet, right?

0:21:15.910 --> 0:21:18.040
<v S2>And I'm quite comfortable going to the toilet at work

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<v S2>now because I know that if I don't, that's my

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<v S2>that's my nightmare. Yeah. Um, and but what I used

0:21:25.180 --> 0:21:26.859
<v S2>to do when I wasn't so comfortable, there was like

0:21:26.890 --> 0:21:29.500
<v S2>a few things I did it that, like, made me feel.

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<v S2>And I know other people do it. Give us a

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<v S2>tool that other people do it. If you know you're

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<v S2>going to go do a poo. Yep. You sit down,

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<v S2>you put a little bit of toilet paper in the bowl.

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<v S2>It doesn't plop, so it doesn't plop.

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<v S3>That's smart. I actually never thought of that. Aha.

0:21:42.420 --> 0:21:44.880
<v S2>And also, like, it also means it doesn't, like skid

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<v S2>down the toilet thing. So you don't have to use, like,

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<v S2>the toilet brush afterwards. Cause that's true.

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<v S3>At work. Yeah. Have you ever lifted, like, a super

0:21:52.950 --> 0:21:55.020
<v S3>clean office? It's so good. They get cleaned every hour,

0:21:55.050 --> 0:21:59.280
<v S3>but in no toilet block is the communal toilet brush.

0:21:59.310 --> 0:22:03.330
<v S2>Oh, no. No, no. It's never a vibe, right? Um, but.

0:22:03.330 --> 0:22:07.169
<v S2>And then it's also like, in case you think that, like,

0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:09.359
<v S2>you're maybe going to fart or there's going to be

0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:13.320
<v S2>a noise as you poo. Sometimes there is, sometimes it's not. Um,

0:22:13.320 --> 0:22:15.960
<v S2>I know everyone else does this as soon as someone

0:22:15.960 --> 0:22:17.850
<v S2>else is using the hand dryer or the or the

0:22:17.850 --> 0:22:21.480
<v S2>tap or they're flushed, that's when you go, okay. That's

0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:23.940
<v S2>when you do it. And I know that happens because

0:22:23.940 --> 0:22:27.119
<v S2>I've sat next to someone else in a cubicle before

0:22:27.119 --> 0:22:29.370
<v S2>where as soon as the hairdryer went, I heard them

0:22:29.369 --> 0:22:31.240
<v S2>go for it because I was sitting right next to them.

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<v S2>But like doesn't work.

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<v S3>As well as we.

0:22:33.400 --> 0:22:36.250
<v S2>Think. Common tactics though. If they make you feel better,

0:22:36.340 --> 0:22:38.740
<v S2>do them because it is totally normal to have to

0:22:38.770 --> 0:22:40.210
<v S2>go to the toilet.

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<v S3>Um, have you ever walked out of going to the toilet?

0:22:43.359 --> 0:22:45.310
<v S3>You know what? My least favorite member has walked into

0:22:45.310 --> 0:22:47.350
<v S3>that cubicle and you've had eye contact.

0:22:47.380 --> 0:22:50.320
<v S2>No, I mean, probably probably, but I'm not. Honestly, I

0:22:50.320 --> 0:22:52.119
<v S2>don't give a shit anymore. I'm like, I need to

0:22:52.119 --> 0:22:54.399
<v S2>go to the toilet. The thing that I don't like

0:22:54.400 --> 0:22:57.250
<v S2>is there's cubicles. As in, sorry, they were talking about

0:22:57.280 --> 0:23:02.139
<v S2>toilet cubicles. I mean, phone booths where, like, people work. Yes,

0:23:02.170 --> 0:23:05.919
<v S2>solely just outside of the toilet. And my least favorite

0:23:05.920 --> 0:23:07.929
<v S2>thing is when I know I need a poo, someone's

0:23:07.930 --> 0:23:11.200
<v S2>watched me go in. So the whole time I'm doing

0:23:11.200 --> 0:23:12.820
<v S2>a poo, I'm like, they're going to see me come out.

0:23:12.820 --> 0:23:13.960
<v S2>And it's been like ten minutes. I don't.

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<v S3>Think any because can I say, if you did that,

0:23:15.760 --> 0:23:17.679
<v S3>I would just assume you've you've got stuck on your.

0:23:17.680 --> 0:23:18.490
<v S2>Phone. You're just playing.

0:23:18.490 --> 0:23:21.190
<v S3>On my phone, I feel like. Yeah, I would think,

0:23:21.220 --> 0:23:23.200
<v S3>oh Steph's taking her phone into the toilet.

0:23:23.230 --> 0:23:25.720
<v S2>Yeah. And to be honest, sometimes when I'm doing poo,

0:23:25.750 --> 0:23:27.070
<v S2>I will do that and I'll play on my phone

0:23:27.070 --> 0:23:27.879
<v S2>and I'll be like, fuck, I've.

0:23:27.880 --> 0:23:31.109
<v S3>Been getting texts and way too long on the toilet.

0:23:31.140 --> 0:23:32.550
<v S2>I need to get off the toilet now.

0:23:33.090 --> 0:23:35.970
<v S3>Oh my goodness. Okay, okay. Thank you. Steffi. Can I

0:23:35.970 --> 0:23:38.910
<v S3>just say thank you for that? That was very helpful.

0:23:39.180 --> 0:23:43.800
<v S3>Very helpful. Okay. This next story is from Stephie.

0:23:43.890 --> 0:23:46.409
<v S5>Hi, Steph and Laura. I'm such a massive fan of

0:23:46.410 --> 0:23:48.210
<v S5>the kick pod. I also love that this is how

0:23:48.210 --> 0:23:51.240
<v S5>I'm first interacting with you guys. So I didn't have

0:23:51.240 --> 0:23:54.480
<v S5>a plumbing disaster, but I almost did when I was

0:23:54.480 --> 0:23:56.550
<v S5>studying abroad in Paris. My friend and I were living

0:23:56.550 --> 0:23:59.310
<v S5>in a tiny little flat and the toilet was just

0:23:59.340 --> 0:24:01.890
<v S5>off the living room. So when you pooped, everyone was

0:24:01.890 --> 0:24:06.359
<v S5>really pooping with you. And I have notoriously big poops,

0:24:06.359 --> 0:24:09.960
<v S5>so I went to go take one and it wouldn't flush.

0:24:09.990 --> 0:24:12.840
<v S5>I panicked for a second and was like, okay, look around.

0:24:12.840 --> 0:24:16.110
<v S5>What can you use to basically chop this up? And

0:24:16.109 --> 0:24:19.650
<v S5>I found some chopsticks and took the two sticks and

0:24:19.650 --> 0:24:22.859
<v S5>went in there and chopped it up and it flushed.

0:24:22.859 --> 0:24:26.250
<v S5>And that is my poop success story. And if I'm

0:24:26.250 --> 0:24:28.250
<v S5>ever in a bind, or if you're ever in a bind,

0:24:28.280 --> 0:24:31.550
<v S5>look for chopsticks, I promise you. They're the best utensils

0:24:31.550 --> 0:24:34.250
<v S5>out there. Um, I hope that this doesn't ruin your

0:24:34.280 --> 0:24:38.270
<v S5>sushi experience. Um, but, yeah, that's my poop story. I

0:24:38.270 --> 0:24:39.380
<v S5>hope it makes you laugh a little.

0:24:40.850 --> 0:24:42.380
<v S2>Oh, I really hope they went in their bins.

0:24:42.410 --> 0:24:44.120
<v S3>I fucking love you. I love I.

0:24:44.119 --> 0:24:44.780
<v S2>Really hope they went in.

0:24:44.780 --> 0:24:46.190
<v S3>There. I don't know where you were going to go,

0:24:46.190 --> 0:24:51.500
<v S3>but then when she said, I chopped it up. Oh

0:24:51.530 --> 0:24:54.620
<v S3>my God. Okay. Thank you, thank you. This next one

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<v S3>is from Amelia.

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<v S6>So a few years ago, I was working in America

0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:02.869
<v S6>at a summer camp. Um, and one of the staff

0:25:02.869 --> 0:25:07.909
<v S6>there invited me home to her family home, um, in

0:25:07.910 --> 0:25:10.790
<v S6>Kansas for the weekend. It was the first time meeting

0:25:10.790 --> 0:25:13.910
<v S6>her family, and it was my first time eating, um,

0:25:13.940 --> 0:25:18.379
<v S6>a big, like, American grill up. It did not agree

0:25:18.380 --> 0:25:23.510
<v S6>with my tummy. I went to the bathroom, did a

0:25:23.510 --> 0:25:28.650
<v S6>giant poo, but the plumbing there was subpar at best. Um,

0:25:28.650 --> 0:25:34.200
<v S6>so it got stuck. I tried flushing and flushing and

0:25:34.200 --> 0:25:38.010
<v S6>the water was was rising. Um, so I got the

0:25:38.010 --> 0:25:43.560
<v S6>plunger out, and that made everything overflow. So the contents

0:25:43.800 --> 0:25:47.100
<v S6>of my giant poo and the toilet paper and all

0:25:47.130 --> 0:25:50.820
<v S6>of the water went all over their bathroom floor. I

0:25:50.820 --> 0:25:54.210
<v S6>had no idea what to do. Um, but I went

0:25:54.210 --> 0:25:57.060
<v S6>and got my friend, and then she got her dad.

0:25:57.090 --> 0:26:00.720
<v S6>Mind you, you know, I'd met him a few hours earlier,

0:26:00.810 --> 0:26:05.400
<v S6>and he fixed it, but safe to say, the rest

0:26:05.400 --> 0:26:10.109
<v S6>of the weekend was just cringey as I haven't stayed

0:26:10.109 --> 0:26:14.460
<v S6>friends with her. Not sure if it's because of the

0:26:14.460 --> 0:26:17.909
<v S6>poo or not. Um, but it's probably for the best

0:26:17.910 --> 0:26:20.550
<v S6>so that this story doesn't get brought up time and

0:26:20.550 --> 0:26:21.480
<v S6>time again.

0:26:21.660 --> 0:26:23.970
<v S2>Oh my God, that is that is my.

0:26:24.020 --> 0:26:26.899
<v S3>I'm so sorry. That is my worst nightmare. Like being

0:26:26.900 --> 0:26:28.910
<v S3>stuck in a toilet with a poo that won't flush

0:26:28.940 --> 0:26:31.880
<v S3>is the worst. But then trying to fix it and

0:26:31.880 --> 0:26:34.489
<v S3>it going on the floor and having to call in

0:26:34.490 --> 0:26:36.469
<v S3>your friend and your friend's dad.

0:26:36.500 --> 0:26:37.850
<v S2>You know what you have to do, would.

0:26:37.850 --> 0:26:40.010
<v S3>You? I would have climbed out the window and run away.

0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:42.950
<v S2>No, this is the tip. Even if it happens at home.

0:26:42.980 --> 0:26:44.540
<v S2>Oh my God, you've got so many tips. I know

0:26:44.810 --> 0:26:48.350
<v S2>it's happened to me before. Um, when you flush and

0:26:48.350 --> 0:26:51.200
<v S2>the water rises, like, you know, it's clogged, like, okay, fuck.

0:26:51.230 --> 0:26:52.880
<v S2>If I keep flushing, it's just going to keep rising

0:26:52.910 --> 0:26:56.840
<v S2>and rising. Those kind of clogs. You get boiling water

0:26:56.840 --> 0:27:00.080
<v S2>and you pour boiling water into the toilet bowl and it, like,

0:27:00.109 --> 0:27:02.930
<v S2>breaks up whatever's in there, obviously your shit or whatever,

0:27:02.930 --> 0:27:07.100
<v S2>but it, like, genuinely loosens things up. And then you wait, like,

0:27:07.130 --> 0:27:09.619
<v S2>I don't know, five minutes or so don't go straight away,

0:27:09.619 --> 0:27:11.210
<v S2>and then you flush and it'll go down.

0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:14.060
<v S3>I feel like I've just had a toilet masterclass. Thank

0:27:14.060 --> 0:27:19.340
<v S3>you so much. Okay. And this last one is from Kristen.

0:27:19.910 --> 0:27:23.070
<v S7>So I've had a few plumbing disaster stories, but the

0:27:23.070 --> 0:27:26.520
<v S7>worst one was when I was a grad student living

0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:30.330
<v S7>in campus housing. It was pretty late at night, maybe

0:27:30.330 --> 0:27:36.570
<v S7>10 or 1030, and I just clogged the toilet. It overflowed.

0:27:36.869 --> 0:27:40.110
<v S7>The mess in the bathroom was horrifying, and I had

0:27:40.109 --> 0:27:43.260
<v S7>to call the emergency maintenance number because it was after

0:27:43.260 --> 0:27:45.570
<v S7>hours and these two guys had to come to my

0:27:45.570 --> 0:27:50.609
<v S7>apartment late at night to fix the toilet. And then

0:27:50.609 --> 0:27:55.859
<v S7>I had to clean up this absolutely disgusting mess in

0:27:55.859 --> 0:28:00.030
<v S7>my bathroom. I've never quite recovered from that one mentally,

0:28:00.030 --> 0:28:04.290
<v S7>and it's been probably eight years by now. It was bad.

0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:05.580
<v S2>Oh my God.

0:28:05.880 --> 0:28:08.580
<v S3>I would not have recovered either. I know that's something

0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:11.730
<v S3>that like. Honestly. Touch wood. Thank you for guys. I

0:28:11.730 --> 0:28:14.340
<v S3>feel like too if anyone was fearful of this happening,

0:28:14.340 --> 0:28:16.919
<v S3>I don't know if this helped. It does happen though.

0:28:16.920 --> 0:28:19.980
<v S3>But honestly, I would never recover.

0:28:20.010 --> 0:28:22.490
<v S2>No, you know what you would have done in that moment. What?

0:28:22.850 --> 0:28:25.399
<v S2>I just had a one night stand. Can you believe that?

0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:27.350
<v S2>This is what they left me with. You would have

0:28:27.380 --> 0:28:28.159
<v S2>totally lied.

0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:33.919
<v S3>Percent. 100%. Oh my God, guys, we love you. Thank

0:28:33.950 --> 0:28:36.650
<v S3>you Stephanie. Thank you for the masterclass. It was really

0:28:36.650 --> 0:28:37.340
<v S3>quite a.

0:28:37.340 --> 0:28:38.060
<v S2>Surprise and.

0:28:38.060 --> 0:28:39.920
<v S3>I didn't know you had this information in you, but

0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:43.340
<v S3>I'm really glad you shared it guys, those stories were

0:28:43.340 --> 0:28:48.200
<v S3>just incredible. Thank you very much. And we hope that

0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:51.470
<v S3>in future it will flush down for you. But.

0:28:54.650 --> 0:28:57.020
<v S8>But is it time for a special share?

0:28:57.860 --> 0:29:01.790
<v S3>Share I am going to recommend and my special share

0:29:01.790 --> 0:29:06.290
<v S3>of the week is Michelle Andrew's new podcast called glass. Well,

0:29:06.290 --> 0:29:09.110
<v S3>it's really it kind of feels like it's an audio essay.

0:29:09.140 --> 0:29:11.210
<v S3>I think they're calling it, but it sounds it feels

0:29:11.210 --> 0:29:15.770
<v S3>like you're listening to an audiobook. Exactly. Now, mish, who

0:29:15.770 --> 0:29:20.130
<v S3>is the founder of Shameless Media, obviously, as you guys,

0:29:20.130 --> 0:29:22.110
<v S3>we know most of you also love.

0:29:22.140 --> 0:29:23.490
<v S2>We have done our surveys.

0:29:23.490 --> 0:29:25.709
<v S3>You love Michelle and Zara. You love shameless. So I'm

0:29:25.710 --> 0:29:27.120
<v S3>sure a lot of you have already listened to it,

0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:30.930
<v S3>but if you haven't, it is just a beautiful gift

0:29:30.930 --> 0:29:35.850
<v S3>to the world. So Misha's been going through her own

0:29:35.850 --> 0:29:42.840
<v S3>journey with infertility for 18 months now and I um,

0:29:43.110 --> 0:29:45.060
<v S3>I spend quite, quite a bit of time with Misha,

0:29:45.060 --> 0:29:46.950
<v S3>and I've kind of known what she's been going through

0:29:46.950 --> 0:29:51.960
<v S3>behind the scenes, and it has been just so heartbreaking

0:29:51.990 --> 0:29:56.610
<v S3>to see her go through it. And, um, in this

0:29:56.610 --> 0:30:00.900
<v S3>and she said to me that I really when it's time,

0:30:00.900 --> 0:30:04.140
<v S3>I'll share this, I'll share this story publicly. And, you know,

0:30:04.170 --> 0:30:06.900
<v S3>it'll hopefully to to be able to help people because

0:30:06.900 --> 0:30:12.000
<v S3>it just feels so fucking isolating and unfair. Exactly right.

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:17.430
<v S3>And so Misha, very, very, very generously, generously wrote this

0:30:17.430 --> 0:30:20.780
<v S3>beautiful Useful essay. It goes through about 70 minutes. It's

0:30:20.780 --> 0:30:24.530
<v S3>three parts. Yeah, they're all about 20 minutes. And it

0:30:24.530 --> 0:30:27.770
<v S3>is just it is just one of the most like

0:30:27.950 --> 0:30:33.050
<v S3>she's an incredible, incredible writer. Oh she's so she's so

0:30:33.050 --> 0:30:36.410
<v S3>bloody talented. So the way that you feel like you're

0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:39.290
<v S3>there when she's telling the story, but the way that

0:30:39.290 --> 0:30:42.680
<v S3>she details it, I think when people have this amazing

0:30:42.710 --> 0:30:47.690
<v S3>ability to put exactly how you feel into words. Not

0:30:47.690 --> 0:30:50.060
<v S3>all of us can do that, obviously. And Mitch has

0:30:50.060 --> 0:30:52.850
<v S3>this incredible talent and she's she's done it in this

0:30:52.850 --> 0:30:55.340
<v S3>way that I just feel like it'll make so many

0:30:55.340 --> 0:31:00.620
<v S3>people feel so seen and just not not alone. It's beautiful.

0:31:00.620 --> 0:31:02.750
<v S3>I cried through a lot of episode two and three

0:31:02.750 --> 0:31:04.910
<v S3>just in like, pride of like, wow, you're incredible for

0:31:04.910 --> 0:31:07.940
<v S3>telling this, but also like, fuck the pain. It is.

0:31:07.940 --> 0:31:13.070
<v S3>So like, infertility is just such a shit thing. Like

0:31:13.100 --> 0:31:14.660
<v S3>there's nothing else you can kind of say about it.

0:31:14.660 --> 0:31:17.490
<v S3>It's really hard. And she also speaks as well about

0:31:17.490 --> 0:31:20.670
<v S3>her family's journey because it's not just her story. And

0:31:20.670 --> 0:31:23.250
<v S3>I thought it was. It was a really interesting perspective

0:31:23.250 --> 0:31:25.950
<v S3>to hear not only her story, which I feel like

0:31:25.950 --> 0:31:28.020
<v S3>I've never heard that before from her, kind of when

0:31:28.020 --> 0:31:30.600
<v S3>I've heard infertility stories. Also the story of her grandmother

0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:31.530
<v S3>and her mother.

0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:33.930
<v S2>Yeah. And I think it was like, because what that

0:31:33.930 --> 0:31:36.450
<v S2>really added to it was, I'm sure the feeling that

0:31:36.450 --> 0:31:38.970
<v S2>a lot of people go through when a loved one

0:31:38.970 --> 0:31:41.340
<v S2>has gone through something heavy is you kind of think like, well,

0:31:41.340 --> 0:31:43.860
<v S2>it's happened to them. It's not going to happen to me.

0:31:43.860 --> 0:31:46.200
<v S2>Or it's like you've already out of the statistics of

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:48.570
<v S2>how many people go through these kind of things. Like,

0:31:48.600 --> 0:31:50.160
<v S2>I already know enough people close to me that it's

0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:53.790
<v S2>happened to. So like, surely it wouldn't happen to me. Um,

0:31:53.790 --> 0:31:55.860
<v S2>and then just like kind of sitting with that or

0:31:55.890 --> 0:31:57.540
<v S2>like going through some of the stuff herself and then

0:31:57.540 --> 0:32:00.510
<v S2>realizing like someone's so close to her could relate so

0:32:00.510 --> 0:32:03.150
<v S2>closely with what she's going through. It's just I did

0:32:03.180 --> 0:32:08.250
<v S2>agree the honesty in the episodes was so refreshing as well.

0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:11.940
<v S2>Like even in episode two, she goes into more so

0:32:11.970 --> 0:32:14.820
<v S2>kind of like aesthetic insecurities that she's gone through. And

0:32:14.850 --> 0:32:18.920
<v S2>like With, you know, with infertility that like making her

0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:21.980
<v S2>feel like she's aging more than her body is. And

0:32:21.980 --> 0:32:24.050
<v S2>then so it makes her more conscious of different things,

0:32:24.050 --> 0:32:27.170
<v S2>like fine lines or like appearance wise or whatever. And

0:32:27.170 --> 0:32:30.650
<v S2>I just felt like all of that was so honest

0:32:30.650 --> 0:32:33.140
<v S2>and like, just stuff that people are scared to be

0:32:33.140 --> 0:32:36.590
<v S2>open about, particularly people with a platform. So I totally agree.

0:32:36.590 --> 0:32:39.500
<v S2>I thought it was such an incredible thing that she's done.

0:32:39.500 --> 0:32:41.630
<v S2>And yeah, I knew it was going to be a

0:32:41.630 --> 0:32:44.330
<v S2>special show because it is truly special. One of the

0:32:44.330 --> 0:32:48.200
<v S2>most special shows we could possibly share. Um, and I

0:32:48.230 --> 0:32:51.110
<v S2>listened to it to this week, and I just just

0:32:51.110 --> 0:32:54.080
<v S2>loved listening to it. And she is phenomenal.

0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:56.120
<v S3>Yeah I agree. Mhm.

0:32:56.780 --> 0:32:59.060
<v S2>Um, cause I knew you were going to share that.

0:32:59.270 --> 0:33:01.160
<v S2>I was like, I got to think of something else. Um,

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:04.130
<v S2>I listened to and she doesn't need any introduction but

0:33:04.130 --> 0:33:08.210
<v S2>Grace tame on the Imperfects and I. That episode is

0:33:08.210 --> 0:33:09.140
<v S2>so powerful.

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<v S3>I have to listen. It's so.

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<v S2>Powerful. And yeah, like I don't really need to say

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<v S2>much more because it's really just like one you should

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<v S2>go and listen to. I highly recommend everyone goes and

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<v S2>listen to it, but she also is a phenomenal woman. Mhm. Um,

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<v S2>and yeah I really really enjoy like I couldn't, could

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<v S2>not stop listening to this podcast. Um it was really

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<v S2>really powerful. And like I obviously know a lot of

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<v S2>Grace James story and stuff. So I don't think it's like, oh,

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<v S2>if you know enough about her history, like you're not

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<v S2>going to get anything new out of it. It was

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<v S2>really powerful. Amazing. Yeah.

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<v S3>Thank you. Yeah. Love it. What a double amazing special.

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<v S3>I feel like, you know, we always try very hard

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<v S3>with our special shares. Guys, we never recommend stuff. Obviously,

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<v S3>that's not good, but I feel like this week was

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<v S3>a two incredible ones. Especially because they're both awesome women. So. Yay!

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<v S3>Have an amazing rest of your week day whenever you're

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<v S3>listening to this weekend. We love you guys so much!

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<v S3>Our cloud links keep floating. We love you. Love you.

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<v S3>Bye bye.