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S1: Ahoy to you for 2022.
S2: Hamish Blake.
S3: A joy and and.
S2: A joy to you, Jacko. Joy, guys, lovely.
S4: To be back.
S3: And where's our whistle tax and we doing that and
S3: it's still where you I'm the re gunner and Jack's
S3: rota mechanic. I think we have to guess what vessel
S3: we're on. And in that case, it would be obviously
S3: a Chinook or some sort of military helicopter.
S4: I'll do it for next week then. I just.
S3: I just wanted to try. Just do anyone I talked
S3: to lifeguard? Yeah. Working reception.
S4: Okay.
S2: Pool could be a beach. No reception at the beach. Yeah,
S2: you're right.
S3: You know, I'd love to get a base reception.
S1: Jack, if you've got a very high flying solo. Got
S1: it on the board.
S4: Also, ahoy to Sean Ham, who used the High Machete
S4: website to upload audio.
S3: Very, very nice to for Summer.
S1: Ahoy, Hamish, Andy and number six, Sean here from Utah, USA,
S1: just checking in to self-report, losing touch with the common man.
S1: Later today, my wife and I have an appointment at
S1: the hospital to deliver our third child. Liam if you
S1: know the American health care system, that can be quite
S1: an expensive procedure to deliver. A child I know must
S1: be very nice to afford not only one, but three kids.
S1: Our goal is to actually have more kids than Andy
S1: has golf simulators. I'm hoping that the Hayman nanny loyalty
S1: card is the card that the hospitals love as well,
S1: and they are not having any teething issues anyway.
S3: I I'd never do that.
S1: Cause this audio here and start the difficult process of
S1: uploading it. Well, ahoy, boys. This is Liam, Sean's son.
S1: I was born 30 years ago today. He's finally figured
S1: out how to help my dad upload this audio of
S1: it's getting to now just a bit of feedback. A
S1: WhatsApp system might have done this to you earlier. Cheers voice.
S3: And you know, that's probably from an ancient civilization, probably
S3: an Aztec.
S1: I mean.
S3: I know two generations.
S1: Of.
S3: Podcasters there pleading with Andy grind the system wouldn't it
S3: be nice to do instantaneous.
S4: Worried about the security of WhatsApp. That's that's that's that's
S4: everything that they knew encrypted apparently. But you know I
S4: think the website is for.
S3: Websites and.
S1: I'm hackable.
S3: As we as we've always said.
S4: Time we want to start 2022 in the pod with
S4: something we've learnt over the Government mandated.
S3: Break. Well we didn't have much time but as we,
S3: as we, I mean we spent most of it, we
S3: don't bore everyone. Barney and I spent most of it
S3: in High Court challenges trying to get back on air
S3: and we were looking good, sort of mid fed and
S3: you know, had everyone working around the clock, you know, coffees, donuts, smokes, ha,
S3: you know, may put that out another year. And then,
S3: you know by the time you know he's got rebuffed
S3: by the High Court several times. Yeah. It was almost
S3: time to come back on our anyway. Exactly. So couldn't
S3: get the mandate.
S4: So the mandate stands but I know we hate it.
S4: I just wanted tried to go to the beach, but
S4: hated it.
S3: Just stand there and stop thinking about the legal case.
S4: But Jacko, what do you learn.
S3: To learn something over the break.
S2: Jack. Yes, as you know, my wife and I are
S2: expecting a baby later this week. Maybe even by the
S2: time the podcast drops today, we'll have had the baby pod.
S3: Wow.
S2: Double drop. I've got a baby fact that I thought
S2: was pretty interesting. Interesting enough for you to retell. If
S2: babies are the topic of a conversation like a in
S2: your own lives.
S3: I will be for you for many, many months.
S2: On what day do you think Australia had the single
S2: most amount of babies born?
S3: Right. Okay, so it's a baby volume equation. Volume of baby? Yeah.
S4: I think it like.
S3: The dancing baby screensaver. A nation of it, September 17th.
S3: Now it's going to be nine months after a fun date,
S3: nine months after Cathy Freeman's run at the 2000 Olympics.
S2: The thing that made everyone, Randi.
S1: Excited, right?
S2: Every moment, but.
S1: I think a lot. Yeah.
S3: But then who knows what happened after that? I mean,
S3: from memory, it was about 7:00 at night, the run,
S3: you know, things progress.
S2: What what is it? It was July 1st, 2004, when
S2: the baby bonus came in in Australia.
S3: Yes.
S2: And what is interesting about it is it's actually used
S2: as proof that the expecting mother can subconsciously hold onto
S2: her baby for longer because they didn't announce the baby
S2: bonus until March of the same year. So people were
S2: already pregnant. And on the day of July 1st is
S2: the single most amount of babies we've have born in Australia.
S2: And the three days leading up to it is some
S2: of the lowest we've ever had. So people were holding
S2: on until they got their fax money.
S3: The great hand clenching as it's now in medical.
S4: So we had on the hundreds which actually Hamish you're
S4: on next week on Tuesday night.
S3: I'm already.
S4: On the TV show in general but the we had
S4: the little what year can the least day where babies
S4: are born on what day is the day.
S3: Before that.
S2: Was. Ah the day before that.
S4: No. Of the year.
S2: Oh, okay.
S3: Oh, Christmas. Do people hold off.
S4: You spot at Christmas Day?
S2: Cause no doctors will do elective surgery. So. So you
S2: can book anything in the book?
S3: Any great. And also people people are like, you know,
S3: like if you kid, you know, the Jesus jokes. Yeah.
S3: Same birthday. So you just, you know, you the 14
S3: year Boxing Day thing, right on country.
S1: Second grade, I could show you. How do you know.
S3: Like jeez I had a I actually around fighting the
S3: mandate at a fairly action packed summer and I we
S3: moved houses you know it was I mean you sort
S3: of know a little bit of this story moved house
S3: over summer the night before we were moving house. Right.
S3: So we're going from the rental we'd been in because
S3: we're renovating. I woke up to go outside to get
S3: my car that I'd parked on the street to save
S3: a spot for the removalist truck. And the car was
S3: not there. No, we had been robbed. Yeah. And they
S3: took without my permission because that's a borrowed.
S1: I don't know.
S3: I took my car keys which then allowed them to
S3: gain access to my car and they stole it. So
S3: bummer that happens. My thing is everybody, you know, they
S3: were in the house so that was a bit scary,
S3: but everyone was fine. It was just a sort of
S3: a it was just a.
S4: We laugh about it.
S3: We laugh about it. We don't laugh about it. But
S3: we certainly can have a giggle.
S1: Because it was you got the car back.
S3: Was a run of the mill theft. Yeah. Yeah. So
S3: the cops, they go, listen, this happens, mate. Sorry. You know,
S3: people biking to houses, they just look for handbags and
S3: cars and then they make the car. So they give
S3: you a bit of I my it's not be kids.
S3: It could just be someone that uses it for another
S3: crime like.
S4: I'm.
S3: Sorry I'm bomber, you know, you're trying to move house
S3: and there's a forensics team there and all that sort
S3: of stuff. So I said, Yeah, no, I like we'll
S3: give you the report. You call your insurance company and
S3: you'll log it and so on. Okay, great. I said, Hey,
S3: on my car, there's a thing it comes with an
S3: app and where you can like see you, you'd have
S3: the same on your carjack, a modern car where you
S3: can just see where it is. Like it gives you
S3: the temperature if the doors are unlocked, like you can
S3: just you it's just like connected to my thigh or whatever.
S3: And so I like I goes, I know where it is. Like, sorry.
S3: I mean, I appreciate like all there. I try to
S3: tell them on the phone and they're like, you know,
S3: you know, what do you mean? You know? It's it's
S3: like I mean.
S1: What I'm saying is.
S3: I was like, yeah, it's like here it's like five
S3: k's away. You're like, Oh, my God, yes, we could
S3: get it. Like, so they like kind of like if
S3: the pain is dropping, like, you know, we would not
S3: ask you, we can use the radio, we could use
S3: the right. It was sort of in this club we
S3: all have a badge. Like we took it off and
S3: we all kind of work together. Yeah. So anyway, they,
S3: I'm like, look, you know, maybe the night it's burnt
S3: out or something doesn't. They're giving me the details. I
S3: call the insurance company just to go. Hey, listen. The
S3: car's panicked, and the insurance company goes right. And so
S3: they give me my number plate and I go, No, sir,
S3: that's my old car. This is the new bought. It's
S3: a year ago, I transferred the insurance. They went, uh,
S3: we don't have details of the new car.
S4: You never got insurance for it.
S1: I went, No, no, you should. Oh, no, you should.
S3: Yes. No, no, no.
S1: I didn't.
S3: Really remember. I definitely remember getting the car and certainly
S3: thinking rigorously about changing the insurance. And I'm sure I
S3: would have made the call. No, no, no. We don't
S3: have anything like that on file. And, you know, I
S3: would it wouldn't be with another insurance company. So as
S3: I'm learning that this car is not insured, copies of
S3: what they had in the door and go, we got it. No.
S1: Oh, good. That is right. Oh, good. 0500 cool.
S3: Played it. Very cool. Just a bit of like, yeah,
S3: well I was going to do it anyway. That's why,
S3: of course that's why you get insurance because you know,
S3: you never know what's going to happen. So I'm only
S3: an absolute man, so probably my ultimate fast and loose.
S3: So I don't know what the learning is because actually
S3: technically the learning is you fine here.
S1: But I.
S4: Guess that's.
S3: Reality. The real learning is yeah, if you have the
S3: thought to do call.
S1: For.
S3: The for the insurance registered of course registered just must
S3: not run in the auto insurance gauntlet so yeah. Bloody
S3: good fun a sub learning from that is it takes
S3: ages to get fingerprint dust off. Then if you guys
S3: have ever had anything dusted for prints in your life.
S3: Real past.
S4: Yeah, yeah, real past. Great learning.
S3: That's as as the baby facts. But that's the that's
S3: a fingerprint dust fact.
S4: He is a he's what I learned over the break
S4: and it came from something that podcast Mike Toby here
S4: on the show. He sang a Green Day song in
S4: his audition for a school choir.
S1: Right.
S3: Wow. From memory. Time of your.
S4: Life. I think he went with American idiot.
S1: American idiot. Know what I.
S3: Know. You've got to be coming.
S2: Is coming.
S3: Broadcast my if it's American. Idiot. How tough. I know. Unorganized.
S1: What is it? American idiot turned out.
S4: So, Mike.
S5: Yes? Hello.
S4: First of all, first of all, am I right in
S4: saying it was American? Because Amy is just suggesting that
S4: can't be the song?
S5: It was actually it was from the album American Idiot.
S5: The song is called Give Me No Vacation. It's a
S5: bit more of a slow song.
S3: Right? More of an album track.
S5: Yeah, it's definitely a B-side.
S4: Okay.
S3: This was for the school choir, where you eventually obviously
S3: successfully achieved a half scholarship.
S5: This was actually for the vocal ensemble, which was an
S5: audition in year 11 and 12.
S4: So you're already on a scholarship.
S3: You're on a vocal scholarship, and they made you audition
S3: and see if it's a good idea. That's like making
S3: Brad Pitt audition for a movie. Hi.
S1: I'm BP. Hey, tell it to me.
S2: So they've already.
S4: Recognized.
S2: You. Listen to your school fees by half based on
S2: your vocal prowess, and then they make.
S4: You audition for the vocal ensemble.
S5: There were other boys at the school who were good
S5: singers but didn't have scholarships, so they had a right
S5: to audition to be in the voting.
S4: People know you're on.
S3: A school is a reality. There is a reality show
S3: in these functional choirboys.
S4: So when you walked into your audition. Yeah. Are you, like, thinking,
S4: this is just, you know, guys, I.
S3: Get paid for this.
S1: Shit? Hey.
S3: Mrs. Andreasen on the organ. Hit it.
S1: I want to be a jerk.
S5: And I was pretty sure I'd get it. Yeah, I
S5: think it was a melody.
S4: They couldn't not put you in either. I'm not saying
S4: you didn't. I'm not saying you don't deserve the spot.
S4: I'm like, I'm a little bit because it was drafted.
S4: You have to play. You can't play. You're on the
S4: list clogging up.
S3: You have used the salary cap.
S1: On you have to play.
S4: What a terrible look for the scholarship system if you don't,
S4: you know, if you don't get it.
S1: Also, Mike, my name.
S3: Well, yeah. Maybe ask. Yeah. Where did you get the scholarship.
S5: I was in grade five five.
S3: Receiving three B, B.
S4: B, C and and then they still kept the scholarship
S4: all the way to year 12. Yeah, but your singing
S4: would have been nicer, younger out of me.
S5: I imagine some might say that.
S1: Yeah, I like the good. You know.
S5: Some people appreciate my current voice.
S3: But you say you had an angelic soprano voice? Yeah, yeah.
S3: As a boy. And then obviously puberty wreaks its wicked
S3: ways with the male body and all sorts of squeaking
S3: and stuff happens. And did you take time out of
S3: the singing game during the transition?
S5: No, I sung every every choir at the school.
S4: Did anyone ever lose their scholarship? Go through people?
S5: Many people lost it.
S3: Why did they what was there what was the review
S3: process like?
S1: Weekly, you.
S5: Know, I semester early like re auditions basically. So you'd
S5: go into a room and the choir conductor would basically
S5: play you chords and you'd have to like sing the
S5: three notes in the chord just by hearing the chord
S5: and just seeing and sight read music and stuff like that.
S5: And it was really intimidating. Like, See you in this.
S3: Class easily because.
S1: I've seen you do Aaron's TV stuff and I had
S1: to tell.
S3: My dad. Yeah.
S4: So it was actually be campy.
S3: And I thought it was sharp D Sharp a.
S4: Flat. So what was is so is this American idiot?
S4: It was an American shame. Okay, give me no account.
S4: Was that.
S3: Edgy? Edgy songs. Hey.
S4: Was that off? Was that your go to.
S5: No, I just didn't know what song to audition. I
S5: didn't know that many songs.
S4: If you if you you don't know any song you're
S4: going to see. Even if you had to audition for
S4: The Voice. Now, what song? Anything.
S5: Oh, Bridge Over Troubled Water. Mm hmm. You know, original version.
S3: Or, like, you know, would you jazz it up a bit?
S3: Because it's Simon Garfunkel originally, isn't it?
S5: Yeah, it's Simon.
S3: It wasn't just Art Garfunkel singing that.
S5: I'm not actually sure.
S3: Or just it's one of the rare songs where Garfunkel
S3: is allowed to shine.
S4: Okay. And would you do the instrumental?
S5: Actually, you know, I think I'd do Sunday morning by
S5: Maroon five. That's a good song. I think I'd do that.
S5: I just thought about it.
S1: Well, thank you.
S4: Mike. Thank you.
S3: I was imagining that you're out on the stage going
S3: when you're.
S1: We feel.
S3: Sorry.
S1: Actually, sorry. Oh, that's why they.
S3: Give us Sunday morning by Maroon five. My quick take
S3: us out.
S5: Sunday morning rain is falling.
S3: No chance.
S1: Right.
S4: We actually get a house for UVA scholarship money back
S4: from school. I ask you this. Given college life.
S3: Might ask you back, PIO, if you think that's.
S1: Just.
S4: I'm. You may love my UFC.
S3: You really do. And. You know, I didn't know Friday
S3: night goes by where you're not paper viewing.
S4: Animals screaming white rhino white.
S1: And head off for.
S4: Whatever it might be. I'm up to date for it.
S4: Not true, but I do love watching the Fox Sports
S4: News and occasionally there's some big fight going on.
S3: But I have never said I mean, I've been known
S3: to watch you you say fighting, but I don't I'm
S3: not mad crazy fan enough of across a few.
S4: I saw an interview with a over the break with a, uh,
S4: a UFC fighter from New Zealand. I might get his
S4: name incorrect, but Israel Adesanya. I think his name might
S4: be quite big at the moment. What?
S3: What what category? What class? What white division. Naughty. If
S3: you have to guess of his body.
S4: Oh, Farah. Well, you're right.
S3: Okay.
S2: He fought. I know he fought. Bobby Knuckles.
S1: Tommy Pizza.
S2: Let's see. That's Australia's best UFC fight. Oh, is it?
S3: I'm really sorry. I didn't mean to kill you. Akani
S3: didn't sound like Simon over to the second time.
S1: Anybody call me Knuckles acknowledge that.
S3: I don't want another Andy McInnes situation.
S1: Yeah, yeah.
S2: So I think they're in whatever the primo class is.
S4: What's up? I know what you mean. Primo class.
S2: I don't know. What if it's everyone's favorite, but they.
S3: Depends on who their favorite fighter.
S2: Is. Well, I was going to say heavyweight, but I
S2: don't think the heavyweight definitely is.
S4: He's thin. He's like an old jack Paris before he
S4: got onto the chicken and peanut butter strike theme. Anyway,
S4: in the upcoming fight, he is going to fight a
S4: guy called Rob Whittaker.
S2: Oh, that's what we know.
S3: That's all we know. I know Rob Whittaker. I didn't
S3: know you think that was Bobby Knuckles. So I don't
S3: know if Rob Whittaker knows. He's probably not going.
S1: To.
S2: Make his first Australia's of it.
S1: But I.
S4: Know it. So, so he is. I think the fight's
S4: been and gone. But in a lead up to the fight,
S4: this is the interview that worried me for something Israel said.
S1: What do you make of Rob's lead in here? He
S1: says this You've got this of an era of vulnerability
S1: to you these days. I've always been vulnerable. I'm human.
S1: I've always been all my vulnerabilities. I wear my heart
S1: on my sleeve, literally. So, yeah.
S3: Jeez, wear.
S4: Your heart on your sleeve.
S3: That is.
S1: Honourable.
S3: Especially because you go topless in the ring. So you're
S3: going to leave your heart in the change room, which
S3: will be difficult for cardiovascular endurance. I mean, it is
S3: a tough sport.
S2: You to wear.
S3: A big fitness.
S4: And say if he was talking about sleeve as in
S4: like just his arm to wear your heart on his
S4: sleeve or your arm, literally.
S3: You'd certainly I thought you'd shy that side away.
S4: Yes. So if you did have to wear your heart
S4: head somewhere else on your body, other than obviously perfectly
S4: encased by a rib cage and leggings, what do you think?
S4: The best place for Israel to put his heart if
S4: he is going into another bout?
S3: I honestly think next year bowls is the.
S1: Place.
S3: He is used to.
S4: Protecting it and you can't get it when you can accidentally.
S3: It's illegal or it's illegal.
S4: Yeah, that's that's bad.
S3: And to be going through their mind the pain of
S3: going well, I know if I do it, what is it?
S3: Is it a, is there, you know points violation because
S3: it'd be worth a kick.
S4: That.
S3: Got him in the heart is.
S4: Such a better idea because I was thinking like just
S4: lower back but then if you feel.
S3: Ground and pound.
S1: Oh yeah.
S4: I fell back out of.
S3: It soon as soon as I grab your legs and
S3: is as soon as the takedown happens landing on your heart.
S4: You already hit some of the back of the head.
S1: Could you would you please? What about.
S3: Now, Aditi? Jan, what about.
S2: In the mouth? How big a hug could you get
S2: in the mouth? The brain injury, free nose.
S3: Or coach what a heart, coach. Jack, I don't want
S3: to have my heart in my mouth through your nose, mate. Well,
S3: you're a tough guy.
S1: Well, well, she did.
S3: Break quite heavily.
S1: During the match.
S4: Some suggestions for Israel going.
S3: Forward for the next.
S1: Fight.
S4: Jack. 2020 to a.
S2: Great year.
S4: And international flights are open. You know what it means,
S4: my friend?
S3: Really bustling to look at the sky from everywhere. I
S3: hope you can't find a plane on the ground at
S3: the moment.
S2: I would say it's still not as popular overseas travel
S2: as it was in 2019. No, it's not about popularity.
S4: It was about you have lost my Bitcoin. You give
S4: it up to speed.
S3: How much of a bitcoin was? It was a significant amount.
S3: It was like a point.
S2: Oh, no, it wasn't. It was dust. Yeah. .1. to
S2: point must.
S3: Be not just that. The Bitcoin is about ten grand.
S2: Well, when, when I when he first when I was
S2: first holding it for him, it was hardly worth anything
S2: now because the meteoric rise of Bitcoin over the last
S2: three years, yes, it is valuable now. So it could
S2: be worth 2010, 20 grand.
S3: Yeah. Just.
S1: Wow.
S2: And how is this? No estimate.
S4: Completely sold in digital.
S2: Well, I'm very much in touch. Still was in touch
S2: all summer. I'm in touch today.
S1: Okay. Absolutely. So for people who are.
S2: Just.
S3: Costing you your place price, I now know just.
S4: For people are just joining the pub for the first time. Welcome.
S4: But I said to you that because you lost my bitcoin.
S2: I lost my own bitcoin as well. So we all
S2: feel with the ship.
S1: Ship.
S4: Yeah, we. I would bet.
S3: How much did you lose, Jack? Sorry. Just how much
S3: was in there?
S2: I lost a whole Bitcoin and I lost 30 Etherium,
S2: which is like a baby version of Bitcoin.
S3: Like a that's not does that's that's underground.
S2: No. That I reckon 150 grand is on that behind
S2: that password that we don't know.
S3: 15 dusts.
S4: Anyway so I got a big ask.
S3: And did any as punishment for Jack not being able
S3: to get it we did settle he sort of like
S3: legally settled doing it was at the start of last year.
S4: And.
S2: I think it was in.
S3: 2020. Do you think it was 2020? Yeah. These seemed
S3: like could only be months away. The deal was somehow
S3: arbitrarily and cheapflights opening up as the side of the
S3: Asia-Pacific region. I think that was Jack, your your your
S3: like offer your counteroffer was you knew New Zealand and
S3: Fiji might, but.
S2: I didn't want a bubble with New Zealand had to
S2: be outside Oceania. You said.
S4: Give me time.
S3: Even though the favour has nothing to do with international travel.
S3: That was the time line it was pegged to.
S4: Yes. And now it's well and truly back out. People
S4: have been damning me and saying and obviously writing and
S4: I'm starting to come saying the big ask is time.
S4: And I've got.
S3: That.
S4: I've got a big ask.
S2: I'm nervous.
S4: Jacko. Your baby arrives on Friday.
S1: This is it.
S2: Because you can't have him.
S3: This is Rumplestiltskin.
S4: I don't want.
S3: Nothing like the baby, like the king ordering a firstborn.
S4: I'd love my name to be a much.
S2: Clearer with Nice.
S3: You won't change anything about.
S1: Oh, no.
S4: I want to. Bianca not first name would be nice.
S3: You don't get it either. Get me.
S2: I've promised her that she can have her dad's name.
S2: Is the second name here. Beautiful name. He's got. And Giancarlo.
S4: Oh, that's lovely.
S3: And his nickname.
S2: So at the moment, he's got his middle name.
S3: So it's going to be Giancarlo and the Post.
S2: You reckon? Which. Another one in there? Yeah. Okay. Wedge
S2: another name in there. Wow.
S1: I think.
S3: I really think you should run this, both of you.
S2: I like it because I was actually going to knowing
S2: this was coming up, I was going to try and
S2: weasel out of it, but it's not as bad as
S2: I thought originally. Right. I already think middle names to
S2: Posh because I'm no middle name. And I like Jack.
S3: He don't have a middle name.
S2: No, I don't have a middle name. And it's very
S2: efficient and I've never needed it.
S3: I always thought it was hitching.
S2: It's not anything funny like that. It's nothing. And I
S2: want I would preferably love the baby to have no
S2: middle name. Okay. We know names don't mean anything. I
S2: can see the shock on your face. I'm like, you
S2: don't know. You don't compute what I'm saying.
S3: But it's just I mean, as a man who's married
S3: and had two children and been through the name selection process,
S3: it's like I'm watching me playing with a uranium fuel
S3: line and you think it's a glow stick.
S1: And you think.
S3: Guys, look what happens when I put it in my mouth.
S3: My cheeks glow. Isn't this a funny thing I found?
S3: You don't know what you're playing with.
S2: It's a how are they going to be used? Like it.
S2: And it'll be really shocking.
S4: I don't know why you're trying to talk him out
S4: of this. I feel like.
S3: I'm the only one here that's trying to defend this
S3: to help this child.
S2: Yeah.
S3: What happens if one day I think the bitcoin gets
S3: more covered?
S2: So I always going to try and ways will weasel
S2: out of it today with a suggestion of still trying
S2: to recover the bitcoin. I know we've tried this. I
S2: know we've tried on the on the show multiple times
S2: to recover the password. But now I've got the best
S2: laid we have ever had in the past.
S3: Do you know what I know? It's a 15 word
S3: password or something.
S2: So 20, 24.
S3: 24 words is trillions of possibilities. We are getting to
S3: the stage where it might have been faster to just try.
S1: To the whole.
S3: Combinations known word. It's been going on for this long.
S3: Who have you.
S2: Got? So this guy, Joe, you can bring yourself up
S2: on the zoom. Is he been listening.
S1: To all of that? The Joe. Who's this?
S2: Joe, say goodbye to the to Hamish and Andy, and
S2: then I'll explain who you are. How are you? Thanks
S2: for having me, Jack. Thanks for losing the Bitcoin so
S2: I can be on the show now. Joe Hundreds and
S2: hundreds of fans of the show over summer sent me
S2: your YouTube clip because you have put a YouTube clip
S2: up where you rescue $2 million worth of Bitcoin.
S4: I think I saw this guy show a.
S2: Bit of hardware, a USB special USB that stores cryptocurrency.
S2: I've got the exact same hardware and that's where my
S2: bitcoin is lost. So if someone is ever going to
S2: hack it, it's Joe.
S3: Joe So I still, you know, as someone that's coming
S3: late to the Bitcoin crypto party, you can store it.
S3: Some people saw on the cloud, some people just like
S3: it's on the blockchain and it's just in there. And
S3: then some people physically have it like a near like
S3: a USB. They call it a physical wallet. Is that
S3: what that is?
S2: Yeah. So there is so there's a couple of different
S2: ways that the one that the Jack had is a
S2: hardware wallet. So it basically is a piece of electronics
S2: that will store your cryptographic information.
S3: Can we so Joe, you've figured out a way to
S3: this actual specific piece of hardware. You cracked it, correct?
S2: Yeah. So this particular type and you know, there's a
S2: saying where I come from in the hacker world, you know,
S2: everything is is breakable. Nothing's 100% secure. It just depends
S2: on how much effort you want to put into actually
S2: breaking it. Wow. This particular hardware that that you guys
S2: have is actually not based on any sort of secure
S2: electronic system. Like it's kind of a general purpose brain
S2: like you'd have in your toaster oven or like other
S2: sorts of low end devices. And the designers did not
S2: did that on purpose. But from our perspective, there is
S2: minimal security in it. And that's what I figured out
S2: how to how to defeat with some help from prior research.
S4: So Joe, how much money if you retrieve from PayPal
S4: for for people doing this?
S2: Well so what I did this first one was $2 million.
S2: And upon doing that, some friends of mine were like, hey,
S2: we should make this into a business. So we've done
S2: a couple other projects. I mean, there are hundreds and
S2: hundreds of people that have contacted us that have lost cryptocurrency.
S2: So Jack don't feel so bad compared to some of
S2: the values that people have reached out to us about.
S2: This is like.
S1: What's the really.
S2: It's like I mean, hundreds of millions of dollars have
S2: been lost.
S3: I mean, thank you. You exist, Joe, and well done.
S3: And Bay, that you clearly seem like a very ethical
S3: guy because the temptation for me would be if someone's like,
S3: there's 2 million in there, you go in, you get it,
S3: you can go, man. Sorry, I couldn't find any grand people.
S1: You know.
S2: People people wonder about that every day. And it's like,
S2: I'm public enough doing hacking. People can find where I live.
S2: I've been doing this my whole life. You know, transparency
S2: is important in this industry, right? And especially with the currency.
S2: So it's like, I'm not going to run off with it.
S2: If I was a teenager and it was $100 million,
S2: that might be different. But, you know, now that I
S2: have a family and it's like, where's the limit of
S2: making it worth running off with someone's money? I don't
S2: think there is.
S3: Yeah. So transparency is really your insurance here or our
S3: insurance and that's your that's why that makes us secure.
S4: So, yeah. Do you think you can get the money
S4: back for Jack White?
S2: Joe, Joe, before you answer that before you answer that,
S2: could we ask could I ask Andy if you'd rather
S2: take the big ask or would you rather have the
S2: money if it can be retrieved.
S3: Through a reverse big ask? Oh, is it basically like
S3: saying essentially if we assume both of these things are possible?
S3: Jackie is basically this is like going you can buy
S3: my son's nine for ten grand. Yeah. Yeah. Since Andy had.
S4: Joshua, I think I'll think.
S2: About that because what if he can get it back?
S2: If he can get it back, that's 10 to 20 grand.
S4: Maybe that goes to you and your son. You put
S4: that in a little wallet for him and but I'll
S4: take the name. But the other thing is, I don't
S4: think you could get the money back or I don't
S4: think you do. They say the jack is.
S1: Yeah.
S4: So but that's my position on it.
S2: All right. The sad news is I did talk to
S2: Joe just before we started recording, and I've done something wrong,
S2: haven't I? I it's not able to be hacked. Is
S2: that right, Joe? This is quite a lead up for
S2: such a sad response. Well, why don't you explain? Explain
S2: to me what we did, what you did, so I
S2: can at least you have some backstory to why this
S2: is possibly a problem. So the Bitcoin's on the USB, right?
S2: And you get so many attempts at the password. I
S2: was getting sick of trying the password. I thought, I'll
S2: just use the backup 24 word phrase that I write down.
S2: That's where that 24 words comes from. Wiped the whole device,
S2: ready to put the 24 words back in and jack
S2: it back up and I could. That's what I've lost.
S2: I or I don't have the right set of 24 words.
S2: So so you would say you intentionally, intentionally erased the
S2: device and tried to you reset it off? Yeah. Yeah, right. Yeah.
S2: So the device is.
S3: Now on say, Jack, did you you in your head,
S3: were you thinking I have the 24 words there in
S3: the other room. Yeah. I'll just go and wipe it.
S3: Did do do do do. Where were those 24 words usually.
S1: Yes. I'll throw this key. Yes.
S2: In the ocean because I've got the other key.
S1: Oh, wow. What a task.
S3: I just put these scissors from, like not shopping but
S3: can cut up caves. I'll cut up this house key
S3: because I know my other house keys in the other room.
S3: I want to say, are these scissors work essentially?
S2: Yes. And now I want Joe to somehow break a
S2: window and still get into the house.
S3: I had this a guy constraints pain. This is back.
S1: On before I him.
S3: I'm going to cut.
S1: My head off.
S2: You might have better luck.
S1: Right now in trying to get.
S3: This number is disconnected.
S1: What have I done?
S3: What have I done?
S2: So it's like you could have your piece of paper, right?
S2: And if you lose that and you lose your your hardware,
S2: of course, the thought is that you would lose only one,
S2: not both. Joe, what I. What I was hoping you'd
S2: say is, even though I've wiped the device clean, that
S2: it's still in somewhere in the memories, like wedged in
S2: a circuit somewhere. Is the information that you would extract. Well,
S2: that's the problem is so there are so there are vulnerabilities, right?
S2: Like how I had taken advantage of it to hack
S2: the device. But in the case of wiping the device completely,
S2: when you when you did that, it's completely gone. There's
S2: no way to physically hack the device to get any
S2: secrets out of it. Okay.
S4: We welcome to the world, Andy Post.
S3: First name now, Jack. He's got to give.
S1: Him an inch. He's taking you to stand up.
S3: And as we as we mentioned before, a bit of
S3: Obama having the car stolen over summer. Yeah, but fine.
S3: Got it back. And nothing was really not actually nothing
S3: was touching the car. So kind of an amazing essentially
S3: from what I can gather, this guy stole a car
S3: to drive home. Like it was just a low, high off.
S4: Theft. And by the wall, we walked.
S3: Out and he's like, Yeah, I don't know what happens
S3: when the guys come here and it's just like, I
S3: can't feel you. Like what? I mean, that's it. Can't
S3: be worth it for whatever the ramifications are. Here's the thing.
S3: The nothing was touched in the car except on. I
S3: have loved using the car theft because this happened just
S3: before Christmas. I've used it several times over summer as
S3: a bit of a sneaky trick where I was like, Hey,
S3: do you have the receipt.
S1: Think you bought?
S3: And I've lost something. And I like, I think a
S3: buddy guy. I think it was in the car. I
S3: think I think it was in the bag the guy
S3: took from the car because I've invented this bag.
S2: Everything you've ever needed in it.
S1: And so it's a.
S3: Bit of like, Where's Rudy's water bottle? And I'm like,
S3: That's the one I left at the park.
S1: My car.
S3: Because in that body bag, I think it was in
S3: the car bag. In the bag, because the sedan has
S3: been a trick that probably used three or four times.
S3: And how long.
S4: Do you have? You've got of car bag.
S3: For the bag stuff. It's getting harder and harder because
S3: it was months ago now. And so it's got to
S3: be something that you.
S4: Wouldn't think.
S1: Switching to make.
S3: Would you wouldn't have needed for the last few months. Yeah.
S3: So if it's.
S2: In the bag where we're getting bigger and bigger, like
S2: a suitcase and then.
S3: Yeah. Where is the red suitcase. I think it was
S3: in the bag. I think it was in the bag.
S3: So the bag. I've loved the bag. The bags made
S3: a magic invention. Great. Here's another. Great. Can I give
S3: you another great trick I use the other night just
S3: following the top of your glove. It. I guess this
S3: is just me just doing an audit of some of
S3: my favorite tricks in the summer. We love a good
S3: not lying. You and I. And now people listen to
S3: the show for a long time and know they're not lying.
S3: Game is where you you essentially saying that saying what
S3: you feel like the common example uses. If you go
S3: to a restaurant, someone sends you a dish and it
S3: was disgusting. How do you say it was disgusting? Whilst
S3: it's sounding like it wasn't so just like what did
S3: you think of the curry? I'll tell you what. When
S3: I came here tonight, I wasn't expecting that. That's good,
S3: you know. Oh, terrible.
S4: Who doesn't love a good curry?
S1: You know?
S3: And I'm not referring to this one. We love the
S3: not lying game. And I had a great one. I
S3: just pray, you know, during some I just got bored
S3: and decided to do it just by some impulse purchasing.
S3: Got the better of me. It was late at night.
S3: This is when the demons snake into my brain and
S3: I bought three pairs of sneakers. There was a sale
S3: and it was having a sale. And I thought, You
S3: know what? I'm throwing out all my old shoes to
S3: charity and I'm refreshing and refreshing. 2020 new is going
S3: to be the year of new sneakers. Well, you're allowed
S3: to have shoes. I know. It wasn't even until it was.
S3: It was an irresponsible amount of shoes to buy.
S4: Can you find a price?
S3: I know what size I am. Yeah, I know I'm
S3: a 12.
S4: I never buy anything online, but if I come across
S4: something I like, like a shirt or something, I'm like,
S4: give me heaps of them.
S3: Get five, get five. Yeah. So I know shoes are
S3: the best because you get them, you know, your size,
S3: you can't really get a shoe wrong once you know
S3: your size. But I also know that is a lot
S3: to buy at once and so does have a slight
S3: issue with me. I've just got a few too many shoes. Yeah.
S3: It's just because we all again, like, moved into the
S3: new place. There's a bit of a fight over wardrobe space. Yeah.
S3: She doesn't. And she has a point. She's like, she
S3: real estate is for me, not you. US. Because you can.
S3: You could use 1/10 of the shoes you have.
S4: Yes.
S3: So I knew in the box from out of the house,
S3: turned up in the house, there would be questions asked.
S3: Turns out the other day this box turns up and
S3: I didn't really get to intercept it. So you take
S3: it in from outside, just like, what's all this? She goes,
S3: What's this from an address? It's like, I wonder if
S3: I can get out of this with a nut lying here.
S3: And I go, Oh, yeah, I just. I did it.
S3: I just do the thing without vest. And they sent
S3: me shoes, and I didn't. I didn't. Yeah. So this
S3: is what thing.
S1: I keep.
S3: Going. I haven't heard about this. Like some. Like what?
S3: I didn't actually go. I was just an online thing. Like, just.
S1: You. You wouldn't have.
S3: You wouldn't have. Even if saying it was just an
S3: online thing, like for free shoes. I was like, well, no.
S3: And then was like, like, I've got to go a
S3: bit on the offensive. So I go when I'm not
S3: just doing it for any shoes, it was only because
S3: it was the shoes on. Liked that. Then I agreed
S3: to do this. Like, that's actually the shoes I like.
S3: So I was like, All right.
S4: You could have gone. It's not public either. It's just
S4: between me and the couple.
S1: Yeah.
S3: So I tried to make it sound like I'm like,
S3: you know, like they just said, I'll give you. I'll
S3: give you any I'll choose. Like, once I saw was
S3: the shoes I really want. Yeah, that's why I agreed
S3: to do this thing. So I said, yep. I was like,
S3: All right, then, whatever. But. Yeah. We had one.
S1: Thankfully, he said. But yeah, it's, it's just, it's.
S3: Just a little thing I'm doing with this golf club, like,
S3: and then I in exchange, I get a round of
S3: golf through payment. What's the thing you doing? I'm giving
S3: the money.
S4: We are all wearing crowns now. Actually, Hamish isn't.
S3: But time. I didn't bring a crown and I forgot
S3: to bring a crown in because we're doing the three
S3: wise man gift giving ceremony. Because, Jack, any moment now,
S3: you're about to become a father. We know it's a
S3: young boy and we thought, hang on a second.
S4: The youngest tending.
S3: The youngest a boy can be. Yeah, a very young boy,
S3: brand new boy, baby, human boy coming out. And we thought,
S3: wouldn't it be nice we set this challenge to the
S3: end of last year. We come back knowing that we're
S3: doing the first podcast back, like, you know, days before
S3: the due date for your son. We come back and
S3: we do the Three Wise Men Giving Challenge, which is
S3: where we each bring a gift myself, Andy and of
S3: course podcast. Mike Being three wise men bringing it to you.
S3: Joseph For you, baby Jesus Jesus Andy posting.
S4: This is right him. Obviously we hope all three of
S4: us hope to get the best gift.
S3: But we had to make the gift. That was the
S3: that was the condition.
S4: I didn't think we had to make it, did we?
S2: Oh, here we go. Yeah.
S3: That was the whole thing. We're making you a gift.
S3: I'm making it.
S4: I'm making. I've made it. I'm going to.
S1: Make back.
S2: Real close to the barcode.
S4: Oops.
S3: I'm sorry. I didn't. I didn't bring my crown, but
S3: I have a King William Chocolate Boost.
S4: It's great. It's amazing. Yeah, it.
S3: Was the closest I could get at short notice.
S4: All right, hit the. Hit the music, Jack. It was
S4: the last. He's lost his crown. Daddy's back.
S1: I spilled a lot.
S4: Okay, we've got to make. We had to make the gift.
S3: Jack, do you remember it being make the gift? That
S3: was it.
S2: I thought it was tough to make it. Yeah, just
S2: so I didn't get regifted something that Andy got for
S2: Christmas and didn't want.
S4: Yeah, right. Sorry. It was the last day. It was
S4: last show of the year. That's okay.
S3: Yeah. I mean, I said the challenging because I think
S3: I had it in my head like, okay, I've got
S3: an idea of what I'm going to make. And maybe
S3: that was that's why I remember it that way. But
S3: I mean, how do we want to do this?
S4: Well, I mean, why is that? I first I haven't
S4: made anything right, but I have commissioned Jack, a portrait, painting,
S4: portrait of the three of you. When you come out,
S4: you have to go sit there for 3 hours.
S2: Why can't I just use a photo?
S4: Well, it's just nicer if you're there in person is bespoke,
S4: otherwise you just maybe keep up a photo. I want to.
S4: I want this to be unique.
S3: Jack, because some of the Teddy babies themselves. Can I
S3: just tell you, when you have a newborn, that will
S3: be fine. They'll say they have 3 hours.
S1: No worries.
S3: There should be no problems with this show.
S2: Bianca and I will have the energy to take 3
S2: hours out of our day. And one of the.
S3: Most common conversations you'll have as you parents is what
S3: can we do today? We have to fill the day.
S3: We are so bored, we need to fill 3 hours.
S4: So. But now that we have to make it, I'll.
S4: I'll happily do.
S1: It. Yeah, that's so beautiful.
S4: Yeah.
S3: That's beautiful.
S2: We'll sit for you for an.
S4: Hour.
S3: To see that came out. Okay. That's. That's lovely. My cabbage.
S3: You go. You get.
S4: It? Now I have with a newborn going.
S1: You should sleep.
S4: For hours.
S3: It's sleeping. Yeah. I mean, you might. You might get bored,
S3: but you will.
S2: You come to our house and chill, right? I'll actually
S2: look forward to that. That's a great gift.
S4: Thank you. Thank you for your generosity.
S5: I've kind of gone a different route on this. I
S5: also don't remember that you had to make something of yourself.
S1: But.
S5: I called one of my friends yesterday to discuss and
S5: I had an idea and I said, Don't you have
S5: to make it yourself?
S3: So they did remember. They knew.
S5: I remembered. I just couldn't remember. So I had to
S5: change my idea at the last minute. So what I've
S5: actually done is I needed to come up with something
S5: that would increase in value as time goes on to
S5: give to your son, so that as he grows up,
S5: he ends up with an asset. So what I'm actually
S5: going to do is I'm officially launching an exclusive official,
S5: Hamish and Andy merchandise piece.
S4: You know, it's the hair.
S1: It's the hanging on.
S5: You continue your mission, Andy. Have a great life certificate.
S5: The perfect gift for a newborn baby.
S2: This is great, Mark.
S5: And there are only ten of these in existence. Listeners,
S5: if you're expecting a child, if you've recently had a
S5: child be one of the nine other people Jack obviously
S5: gets the first one will be one of the nine
S5: other people in the universe to have one of your mission.
S5: Andy's official have a great life certificates.
S3: This is like a sheet of tape.
S1: It's a certificate. Yes.
S5: It says great life from all of us here at
S5: Hamish and Andy. You give it to your kid as
S5: soon as they're born, you will love it.
S3: And not a moment later. As soon as they get
S3: that should be as the hand is reaching for food
S3: to give them the certificate. I actually.
S4: Think it's more valuable than most any face and you can.
S3: Use.
S4: The placemat and the ink in it is well laminated.
S3: That is nice.
S5: Email the show the first nine people to. I will
S5: be the lucky nine people.
S4: Do you have to have a kid?
S5: Well, if someone's having a kid and you want to
S5: give it to them, whatever you want to do, it's
S5: your asset. Do what?
S3: Do people have to buy it or.
S5: Know it's a for free? And then how does one
S5: get just decides? Okay.
S3: And it consumes. Because then what I.
S5: Thought is.
S4: Why ten? I mean, it's immediately different. Yeah. I mean, like.
S3: Save yourself the hassle.
S1: Right.
S5: But Jack would get rid of it. But what I've realized.
S4: Oh, people still in this city can it?
S3: Here's the thing, Jacoby. Manipulating the secondary market. The minute
S3: we hang up the headphones.
S5: People aren't stopping having babies. But there will only ever
S5: be ten of these.
S3: Yeah, that's like what your grandpa said to invest in
S3: placemats and certificates. And I'm making.
S1: More of a.
S5: Ride into the show.
S3: They're not making any more.
S5: Of an impression. And you will be signing all of them.
S4: Okay.
S3: You've gone mad.
S2: Like, how much? Oh, this is a lovely gift, even
S2: though the Photoshop skills are really rudimentary. How much can
S2: I expect when you say 21 to resell this for?
S5: I reckon by the time he's 21, he could sell
S5: it to a fan of the show for like $400,000.
S3: Remember, that's in 2050 $3.
S5: So still a fair bid.
S3: On a 2040 $3. So, you know. Well, we might
S3: be all using water credits, by the way.
S1: Yeah.
S4: Well, okay. Follow that market closely.
S1: Jack, right into the show.
S3: Jack, you. I mean, what to get your special boy
S3: was going through my head. Got to be something you quickly.
S4: What were you going to buy, Jack?
S5: I bought him a frankincense, deodorant and a toothpaste. As in,
S5: the three wise men.
S3: Show the two things that aren't gold. Yeah. I didn't
S3: want to get him and say what you've done.
S2: What are you doing with those now?
S5: They're in my bag if you want to.
S1: Right?
S3: I mean, you didn't hear in the manger. Yeah. We
S3: also got you like an amethyst crystal. Like if he
S3: wanted it in our bag.
S4: No doubt Mary left the frankincense in the bar, and
S4: she goes, Yeah, I love this.
S3: Great. Oh, that's great. That's what baby doesn't love our
S3: heavy incense gaffer. Jack, your special boy is on his
S3: way any minute now, you and I, you know us three.
S3: We have a great bond, but you and I have
S3: a separate bond as bad boys.
S2: We do.
S3: It's not an alliance. It's an agreement, but it's a
S3: strong agreement. And the bad boys have been through a lot.
S3: So when I heard we were getting a new boy,
S3: the lineage continuing of B boys who your son will
S3: one day grow up to grow a luscious beard and
S3: join the ranks of bad boys. I thought, What can
S3: I make this boy? Rather than everyone's going to be
S3: knitting you booties and knitting you scarves and beanies and things?
S3: I learnt how to knit over the summer. I my
S3: mum helped me and I learn online and I've knitted
S3: your baby a beard. It's not perfect, but what it is,
S3: it's white. I only had white.
S2: Wool boys are you why? There is like a baby Santa?
S3: I am actually not happy with this one. I mean
S3: to redo it in brown because the edges are a
S3: bit frayed and it's coming apart a bit. But that's
S3: so it's this is not the finished product.
S4: Is there any evidence of you actually making it?
S3: What do you mean.
S4: When you say you make cakes but you guys get
S4: cakes delivered and you assemble them? Is there any evidence
S4: that you actually.
S3: I can show you the receipts for the.
S1: Wall to me.
S4: Not just any video footage of you. Just do this,
S4: do the nails are there, just this? Do our line
S4: for us now.
S3: What's finished? It's finished.
S4: Off. No, it's not. The needles are still into it.
S3: So do you know what? That's. That's they're out there.
S2: Just.
S1: Like the same shop. And, you know, I think that's
S1: good in know the wool is genuine wool is coming
S1: off here guys. Wall to wall Jack. Mm. The.
S3: The thought is what counts and I genuinely.
S1: I got to Jack.
S3: He's what I promised you. Within the next two weeks,
S3: I'll have a beard knitted for your baby. I will
S3: need him a proper beard, will you need it? I
S3: will need it because I.
S4: Don't need it. I'm not painting.
S3: I will need a jack. I'm going to need your
S3: baby a beard. So he's a beard boy. Right.
S2: And is it going to be more beard like. Yes,
S2: is a bit square.
S3: Okay. Just listen, mate.
S2: The prototype doesn't look that much.
S4: Like a bit of worry.
S3: Full disclosure, I had planned to have the beard ready
S3: today for the big reveal all summer long. I just
S3: knew I was going to get round to learning how
S3: to meet. Yes, I only started a few days ago.
S3: It's not easy here. It's quite difficult to knit. I
S3: can near the strip but I know I can make
S3: it into a beard shape. I just need a few
S3: more days.
S4: What you do you in? Just bought a scarf and
S4: cut it up. I bought a cardigan. Cut it up. Yeah.
S3: I was hoping to get away with it. But you
S3: spotted the chopsticks because I actually didn't. I went to
S3: the food court downstairs, and there's one of the shops
S3: next down at the food court. And then I stole
S3: the chopsticks. Jack, this is evidence of my intent to
S3: meet your baby. I wish I had a brown cardigan,
S3: and I wouldn't have had to answer all the questions
S3: about Lost Boys.
S2: Two weeks.
S3: So two.
S1: Weeks.
S3: You're getting a baby and admitting your baby, and Jackie's
S3: going to be a big boy. What do you think about.
S2: I love it. Thank you. I'm looking forward to it.
S4: Two weeks ago. So long time. No one believes this time. Lord,
S4: you're like a baby.
S1: I.
S3: I know the supply issues.
S4: All the best, Jacko, this week, but it's.
S3: Going to be great. Tell him about the beard. It's
S3: going to be with him soon. And then you can
S3: paint him with the beard on.
S5: Don't forget your certificates.
S1: Once we got that.
S5: Andy, don't come.
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