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UU: One. Two. Three. Four.
S2: Hi. Hello, there. Hi, Clyde.
S1: Hi, cloud lings.
S2: How are you doing?
S1: I'm doing good. Today's the first week. The first week?
S1: My gosh, the first day of the week where I
S1: felt like I could put a little bit of makeup
S1: on because my skin's been on a journey.
S2: You have been on a journey with your nose. Okay.
S2: And I actually. Guys, you are gonna die. Steph. Tell us. Yeah.
S2: So you would think by watching your social media that
S2: your nose had pimples.
S1: Yeah. Yeah. Well, okay, so it's been about a two
S1: week journey, to be honest. When I was sick and
S1: I was blowing my nose a lot, I noticed these
S1: two red marks either side, like just on top of
S1: my nostrils, just red. There was no head to them,
S1: but they were just sore and red. And I just
S1: thought to myself, oh, like inner nose pimples suck. Like
S1: that's what I thought they were like. Maybe they would
S1: show up on the inside of my nostrils, or they
S1: were just going to be blind pimples and just suck.
S1: And I was like, this. This sucks. Basically, for like
S1: a week, they were just like that and they felt
S1: like bruises. So every time I had to blow my nose,
S1: it was like agonizing, which sucked. And then all of
S1: a sudden my cold started to go away. But this
S1: little head on either side started to appear. So I
S1: was like, this whole time they've just been like pimples
S1: just growing and like, ready to come out. And I
S1: can't help myself. Like, if I have a pimple, I
S1: cannot not pop it. It's just I, I've tried many
S1: different things. It's just the way that I am. I'm.
S1: I try to do it a lot more cleaner than
S1: I used to. Like, I'll wash my hands and I'll, like,
S1: try and dry it up anyway. Whatever. But I went
S1: for it and I went for the one side first
S1: because one side was like kind of popping out more
S1: than the other one. And I did it and it
S1: started to like, pop, like a normal pimple, but then
S1: it just like, looked like something else was in there.
S1: And then I went to like, get something to, like,
S1: clean my nose like a bit of cotton or something.
S1: And by the time I went back, it was just,
S1: it was gone. But I was like, I swear I
S1: saw a hair. And I'm like, that's really weird. I
S1: looked at my nostrils and my nose and I was like,
S1: I don't have hairs. Like, you know, like chin hairs.
S1: You have the dark ones that randomly appear, and then
S1: you got some blonde ones that are like kind of
S1: long as well, just like around your chin. I was
S1: expecting that when I went up to my nose, I
S1: was like, maybe I've got a furry nose.
S2: And when you say you had a hair, this isn't
S2: up your nose at all. No, no no.
S1: No, this is.
S2: Outside on the outside.
S1: And so then I was like, I swear I saw
S1: a hair. And Josh was like, nah. And I was like, okay, well,
S1: I really did it. I thought, I thought I did.
S1: Next day the other side of my nose decided to
S1: rear its head and I was like, okay, now I've
S1: got to pip the other pup. Pup the other side
S1: popped it. Lo and behold, a little hair popped out
S1: and I had an ingrown in my nose and I
S1: was like, what the actual heck? It was dark, a
S1: dark hair, but then what? I started to study in
S1: it because I was like, this is very, very random.
S1: I got the hair and I was looking at it
S1: and there was no like, root to it. There was
S1: no root to it. Like, you know, when an ingrown
S1: not an ingrown. Yeah. You know, with an ingrown hair,
S1: they have like this little like root at the bottom
S1: and it looks all it. It wasn't an ingrown. It's
S1: like where the did this hair come from? I looked
S1: at Josh and I was like, maybe we were making
S1: out real hardcore and it just, like, got indented into
S1: my skin and just like, my skin grew over it.
S1: And it's his beard trimmings in my nose or something.
S1: I don't know if that's the actual, you know, result
S1: of what happened, but it's weird.
S2: Well what else? Because I'm guessing the other side was
S2: also a hair.
S1: Well, yeah, I think I'm guessing now.
S2: Have you got it out the other head?
S1: Yeah, yeah. They're both. And they both flatten out. There's
S1: no pain anymore. So they've obviously like gone down. But the.
S2: Other side was also a head I.
S1: Think so, but I didn't like because I was like
S1: in the middle of grabbing something I didn't see it.
S1: Whereas this one, I could see it and I grabbed
S1: it and I like had it on the tip of
S1: my finger. And I was like, that is definitely a hair.
S1: So I assume that the other one was too. And
S1: I'm like, what the actual heck? Anyway, I started to
S1: talk about my stories because I just can't when it's
S1: on my nose. And it was that red and that
S1: big I like. I was like, I'm filming a bunch
S1: of content. I also don't want to put makeup on
S1: my face because I'm trying to heal this stuff. I'm
S1: going to have to talk about the elephant in the
S1: room with.
S2: A cold sore. Yeah, like it was like, hey, before
S2: I start, I know. Yeah.
S1: But my genuinely, my nose looked like Rudolph, like it
S1: was bright red.
S2: It's also it had a circle like it know because
S2: of the swelling. So then what happened. So that's when
S2: I saw you. Yes.
S1: So then I was like, okay, now I've got these
S1: two pimples and conserving beauty have the most amazing pimple. Like,
S1: they're like sheets. So I've been using them instead of
S1: pimple patches because they actually heal and they were amazing
S1: and I don't know where the f I decided to
S1: try something else, but I had this other product and
S1: it was like this, like really active serum. And I
S1: for some reason decided to try something new, stupid, and
S1: I started to put it on my nose. Now, what
S1: I didn't read in the instructions was that you were
S1: only meant to put it on once in the morning
S1: and once at night, and probably only on the problem area.
S1: I mean problem spot, not the entire area, but there
S1: was so much going on with my nose. I was like,
S1: I'll just smear it all over the top of my nose.
S1: I applied it like three times that morning. So too
S1: much product. I do that too many times, but also.
S2: Because it doesn't work straight away. You're like, oh, it's
S2: not working. You need to put more, need to put more.
S2: It's not drying in my nose.
S1: So I was like, maybe I've wiped off the product
S1: and I just was like, I'll go put more on
S1: later that day. I'm washing my face. And you know
S1: how some products, especially the thicker ones, they kind of
S1: like peel away? It was peeling away. And then I
S1: realized it wasn't the product that was peeling away. It
S1: was my skin on my nose peeling away. So this
S1: product had eaten away so much of my skin that
S1: layers of my skin had come off, and now I
S1: just had this raw red nose of skin. So I
S1: had two healing pimples and raw tip of my nose,
S1: and I became even more red. Rudolph. And so it's
S1: just been a journey of healing that, because then of course,
S1: what's happened is like there's been like flakes of like
S1: dry skin that have genuinely peeled off in chunks. Like,
S1: I don't know if anyone watched Austin Powers growing up,
S1: but like, that gold, whatever his name was who, like,
S1: peeled skin off his neck and shit. Disgusting. But that's
S1: that was my nose this week. Um, and I, I
S1: feel like it's finally healing. We're finally getting there. So
S1: that's the story of my nose and the random hairs
S1: that I found in there.
S2: I can't get over the fact you had hairs in
S2: your nose like that. I still don't understand it. Like,
S2: no offense. It's really gross. It's. It's weird as fuck.
S2: But as you said, like the fact that you didn't,
S2: and I. It must have been Josh's beard hair. Because
S2: when else it wouldn't have been an eyelash. Yeah, because
S2: it was a thicker hair.
S1: I wonder unless it's like. I mean, again, this wouldn't
S1: explain why it didn't have like a root, but like
S1: maybe because the inside I don't have many hairs, but like,
S1: if I look really high up the inside of your
S1: nose hairs, they're dark, like, they're dark hairs.
S2: So what do you think it grew? Maybe it.
S1: Went backwards.
S2: And then floated because it doesn't have a root. Okay.
S2: Dermatologists listening that are dying is dying right now because
S2: there's probably a thing. Please, can you let us know?
S2: What the heck?
S1: Why did I have hairs?
S2: Why were there hairs in Steph's nose? Are there some
S2: in my nose? No. Is is that our. Is our
S2: skin actually underneath it? Like if you peeled it off,
S2: there'd be random. Well, there's hairs in our nostrils. Yeah.
S2: But I mean like like you have, like under the skin.
S2: Just things growing inside.
S1: We have hairs all over our face.
S2: Yeah. But actually in built in that aren't ingrown like yours,
S2: I'd love to know.
S1: Waiting to surface, waiting to see.
S2: Because I'm right up with this content. You know, that's
S2: my favorite thing to watch on TikTok is no pimples. Yeah,
S2: I've actually gone into ear extractions at the moment. Earwax extraction.
S2: So quite interesting. Interesting. Sometimes there is hairs in there too,
S2: so there's a whole wide world of popping online. Anyway,
S2: thank you for sharing that with us, Steffi. And weird.
S1: Yeah, very, very weird. But now moving on from that,
S1: because that might have been a little bit TMI for
S1: some people. Um, we've got some exciting news with kick.
S1: Our Express Lift challenge starts today and I'm so excited
S1: for this one. I am going to be doing this challenge. Um,
S1: and if you're not sure what that is, we have
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S1: for quite some time now called lift. Now this is
S1: Express Lift. This is an eight week version. The workouts
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S2: Love it! Oh I'm excited. I'm especially excited for the
S2: shorter ones because our current program, the workouts are longer.
S2: And like obviously for some people, they want to go
S2: work out for 60 minutes in the gym, but sometimes
S2: you only have 20 to 30 or so as you're
S2: building up. It is a long a long time, right?
S2: For sure. And all of these workouts have been designed
S2: so you don't. And this is something that Danny said,
S2: our head trainer, when he designed all of these workouts,
S2: it was it's not like you need to feel have
S2: to feel like, oh, I'm not doing a long enough
S2: workout because I'm only doing half an hour. It's not
S2: a half workout. The whole challenge has been designed to
S2: be effective within the 30 minutes, in the way that
S2: he exactly has chosen the exercises and what's included. ET cetera.
S2: ET cetera. So I'm just excited. And as I'm now
S2: entering my strength era, which I'm just loving, I'm feeling
S2: so much more confident in the gym. It's awesome. And
S2: we've actually got a competition going for anyone that wants
S2: to start the challenge, which is, you know, there's extra motivation.
S2: It's not just for you. That's obviously the number one
S2: motivation is yourself and moving your body always. But if
S2: that's not enough, just for today, we've also got a
S2: competition running where you can win a gym membership on us.
S2: So if you complete our Express Lift challenge, you will
S2: automatically go in the draw to win one of three.
S2: So we are giving away three $500 vouchers to use
S2: at any gym of your choice. Woo hoo! Okay Steffi
S2: and cloud links I have got a question for y'all.
S2: Y'all y'all. Okay. Is it okay or valid to be
S2: angry at someone for things that they said in their
S2: sleep that they don't remember or recall?
S1: Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one. I
S1: actually think, no, it's not okay to be angry because
S1: I think your dreams are so like, I feel like
S1: I've read somewhere that they're made up of, um, past
S1: future and like, just totally random. As in, like, there
S1: could be a shark flying through the sky in a dream.
S1: So I feel like you can't hold someone to. Why?
S1: What did Donald say? What did Dalton say?
S2: What did you mean I do agree, sorry, I do agree.
S2: So three times it happened last week. Okay? We woke up.
S2: So the first time he was like. He was a
S2: bit funny. He was like, you were sleep talking last night.
S2: It was just so annoying. And I was like.
S1: Oh, it's something you said.
S2: Sorry. Yeah, yeah. I'm the one that was mad with. Anyway,
S2: then the second night woke up and he was like, oh.
S2: And I was like, what is wrong now? That is
S2: not the energy I want to be starting my day with.
S2: I like to start my day with happy music, you know,
S2: slay the day we're going to serve today. That is
S2: the vibe I like in my bedroom. Not like anger, okay?
S2: And I'm like, why are you so angry, you weirdo?
S2: He was like Laura last night. You were so mean
S2: to me. Do you even remember? And I was like,
S2: what are you talking about?
S1: I can't. I don't ever want to have a sleepover
S1: with you ever again. There's been way too many stories
S1: of you being incredibly creepy at night. Like, Dalton may
S1: try and have sex with you at night, but you
S1: seem quite aggressive. What did you say?
S2: Okay. So. Okay. Good question. So I, I was like,
S2: what do you mean? And I was I was like Dalton.
S2: I literally like, I know I fall asleep in three minutes.
S2: I'm one of those annoying people that falls straight asleep.
S2: Doesn't take me very long. And I was like, last
S2: night I read my book. I went to bed. I
S2: can't recall anything else. He was like, no, like we
S2: had a full conversation. You were telling me. I was
S2: replying back saying, I'm awake. Don't tell me I'm asleep
S2: even though I was asleep. So I was like to him,
S2: and I don't know, it's not even mean. It was
S2: just so weird. I was like, Dalton, I'm never going
S2: to share my trauma with you. At what?
S1: I'm never going to share.
S2: Share my trauma with you. This is just between me.
S2: And he was like, what do you mean? Like, why?
S2: Why would you keep that from me? And I was like,
S2: I'm never going to share it with you. I need
S2: to heal the chakra.
S1: What in the actual fuck?
S2: And I don't really like I've done, I've done chakra.
S2: I think it's chakra six is what's in your throat.
S2: I've done stuff to like, clear stuff in my throat
S2: when I couldn't last year, when I couldn't talk properly
S2: because I lost my voice all the time. But that
S2: was like, honestly, over six months ago. Then I started
S2: I get my because I've got my ring on my finger.
S2: That's like a tech ring, my aura ring, and I'm
S2: holding my finger up to Dalton saying, the energy is here,
S2: watch out. Oh my God, this is the ring comes
S2: into it. And that was the last time when I
S2: was scraping with my ring. Anyway, maybe stop wearing it.
S2: Is it giving me creepy? Anyway, it was. He was
S2: like Laura, you were. And he goes, you wouldn't stop talking.
S2: And you kept just saying, don't tell me I'm asleep,
S2: I'm awake. And I was Jesus. Anyway, so was this.
S1: And you said the same thing three nights ago.
S2: Yeah, yeah. The third night he was. He then knew
S2: that I because he honestly, the second night he genuinely
S2: thought I was awake and taught, because sometimes before bed
S2: I get a bit silly and I make. It's actually
S2: really bad because then I get in this silly mood
S2: and then I keep him awake and I rev him
S2: up before bed, and then we both lie there for
S2: like an hour, being like, now we can't sleep because
S2: I was silly.
S1: Oh my god.
S2: Anyway, so he thought, but the third night it was
S2: better because he knew that I wasn't asleep, that he
S2: knew I was asleep. But I was like, just don't
S2: talk back to me. And he's like, it's so hard
S2: not to you keep just keep talking at me. Anyway, anyway, okay,
S2: we have got stories from you guys, but before we
S2: go into the stories of what your partner does in
S2: their sleep, I have one more question for you, Stephanie.
S2: Do we have a responsibility to be a good sleeping partner?
S1: Okay. So like if you're snoring.
S2: Or is it so if you have a partner who
S2: snores or you snore, are you the person who snores?
S2: Are they responsible because they're sleeping in the. If you're
S2: sleeping in the same bed every single night to go
S2: and talk to someone about the snoring or try and
S2: sort it out.
S1: Yeah, I think because it can be quite a medical
S1: issue for some people, as in like it's like actually
S1: they have zero. Nothing they can do. Exactly. I think
S1: it's absolutely worth talking to someone because sometimes there is fixes. Um,
S1: but I know plenty of like not plenty. I've got
S1: my family, friends. I know her dad. Hayley's dad. Yes.
S1: Snores like. And the whole entire house can hear it.
S1: But Adele, his partner, has just worn, like, earbuds every
S1: night for, like, their entire relationship. Oh, it's beautiful. But
S1: I think he might have also got looked at or
S1: tried to help or whatever, but she just. I think
S1: it's easier to just put the earbuds in or whatever.
S1: So I think it's like whatever works for you guys.
S1: You're so.
S2: Reasonable. I mean, if Dolson started snoring, I'd be like.
S2: But maybe I'm a hypocrite because I should be responsible
S2: for my talking in the night. Linz, what do you think?
S2: I know you have thoughts on this? Yeah.
S4: I think if you snore, you have a responsibility to
S4: sort yourself out. Partly for a partner, like if and
S4: when you do have one. But then also like if
S4: you're falling asleep, like on an aeroplane or public transport
S4: or I've done a lot of backpacking, public.
S2: Transport, or if someone else is not like so, everyone
S2: can have a joint nap. Oh my.
S4: Gosh. But I have spent a lot of time backpacking
S4: and staying in hostels and people in. If you book
S4: a communal room, if you're one of 12 people in
S4: a dorm and you're snoring, you can't get away with
S4: that kind of behaviour. So I think people like that lens.
S1: I would say if you're going to be in a
S1: communal place, take your earbuds, take your eye mask like,
S1: you know, just do that just in case I. So
S1: Josh is actually about to go away with one of
S1: his mates, Trent, who snores like an absolute chainsaw.
S2: Has he been.
S1: Checked? I don't know, actually, but he's travelled with Trent
S1: before and every time. It's so funny because every time
S1: he travels with Trent, he sends me a video and
S1: he's like, why the fuck did I forget my, like,
S1: earbuds again? So I got to remind him. Now that's just.
S2: Have to remind him. Yeah.
S1: Yeah, I think it's I think it's both because I
S1: think like it also would be so like, imagine if
S1: you if that was you if you couldn't help it
S1: and you had like that kind of problem and maybe
S1: you had tried stuff and nothing as long.
S2: As you've gone.
S1: So like, like, do you have to take earbuds everywhere
S1: you go and be like here, you're going to need
S1: these tonight. Like, I don't.
S2: Know, but I think you just need to talk to
S2: someone about it. I think just like if it's happening
S2: and an FYI, I snore a lot. No. Do you,
S2: do you actually know I'm saying.
S1: Oh, they would have to say before they like, I
S1: don't know, go away with friends or whatever. Just for eyes.
S1: Oh my God.
S2: I don't know. No, I don't snore guys. Let us
S2: know what you think. And now these are actually so good.
S2: I'm dying. What you guys, your partner does in their sleep.
S2: This is so again. There's a little bit of swearing
S2: in here. I need to read the swear word in
S2: this one for impact. Listens to fucking podcasts all night
S2: and reckons if I turn it off, he knows he
S2: wakes up. Oh, that would drive me, like, actually insane.
S1: Yeah. Put your fucking headphones on.
S2: I can't put your headphones on. I'm sorry. The fact
S2: he think he knows that if you turn it off,
S2: it's like you're asleep. Hunt. You don't. You don't know anything.
S1: Oh, my God. Pulls my pillow out from underneath my
S1: head to roll over and hold. No, I would absolutely
S1: pull it right back.
S2: Oh my God, this one farts really loudly and abruptly.
S2: It startles me and wakes me up every fucking time.
S2: I feel like there's so many swear words in this,
S2: because being woken up in your sleep is so annoying.
S2: Can you imagine you're waking up to farts every night
S2: like oh my God.
S1: Oh my God talks in their sleep, but to the
S1: point where he's drawing on my back thinking he's awake.
S1: I mean, that's kind of relaxing, though, when someone chases
S1: on you.
S2: I want to know what he does. What does he do?
S2: Is he an architect or an artist? He's like, he's
S2: So for the house drawing thing. Oh my God. I
S2: see yeah. One guy sleeps.
S1: With mouth tape like doll and then randomly starts choking.
S2: Because he needs one. Oh, no. Stop! Stop! Oh, my.
S1: God, we have someone else. Laura, look. Wants to have
S1: sex and then never remembers it in the morning.
S2: That's a lie. They say remember in the morning. I
S2: could get up and eat. I'll wake up to protein
S2: bar and ice cream wrappers. What? At least he doesn't wake.
S2: Wake you up. Oh my God! Stop! My head! This
S2: is the work. Your work? If you're thinking about it
S2: all the time. My partner thinks he's at work. I've
S2: woken up telling him to him telling me I'm not
S2: installing cabinetry properly. These have sent me home. People just. Okay.
S2: Last one. I'm dead. My partner Sleepwalked and started swinging
S2: his arms around like he was playing golf. Then he
S2: went looking for the ball and found it in a
S2: pile of washing. There wasn't really a ball there, but
S2: he was committed to his golf sleepwalking dream. And then
S2: he passed the golf club to the next person who
S2: wasn't there. Just to be clear. Do you know my
S2: favorite sleepwalking story of all time? I'm not going to
S2: say his name, because I don't know if he wants
S2: to be named on this podcast, but our very good
S2: friends that he, um, the guy in the relationship, he's like,
S2: Josh has weed in the middle of the night into
S2: his drawer, thinking like, open the drawer as if it
S2: was the toilet seat and then weed in there. Yeah. Yeah.
S2: And wet all of my friend's sports bras. Oh, my God, guys,
S2: you slayed those stories. I've actually. That just sent me, like,
S2: I actually can't. Oh my God. Thank you guys.
S3: One two, three four.
S2: Just before we get into this segment, we do touch
S2: on disordered eating and eating disorders, which may be triggering
S2: for some people. So if that is the case, skip
S2: through this segment to the special shares. If you are
S2: struggling at all with an eating disorder or disordered eating
S2: in any way, always know you can contact the Butterfly
S2: Foundation on one 800 e d hope. I need to
S2: take a big deep breath before this one because recently
S2: another trend. Now, I have spoken about this on my Instagram,
S2: but we wanted to come and talk about it in
S2: more detail on the podcast. So if you've heard it
S2: on my Instagram, don't worry, we are going into more
S2: detail here. The other day I saw a post on
S2: TikTok about rice Zenpix, which is a in quotation marks
S2: natural formula for ozempic, the weight loss medication. This is
S2: very similar to oat Pick, which Steffy you posted about
S2: a couple of months ago. And that was that was
S2: I'm going to swear. Sorry. That was fucked. Yeah, that
S2: was oats and lemon in water.
S1: Yeah, it was basically like an oat lemon smoothie that
S1: had no nothing else in it.
S2: And people were drinking it and then saying they were
S2: losing weight. People think, and this is very much the
S2: world of diet culture on TikTok. Yeah. TikTok. So eating disorders,
S2: which is it's probably not super surprising to everyone that
S2: eating disorders are fueled by social media, but TikTok. TikTok
S2: has exacerbated it. Like beyond. It has what it's ever
S2: been before because there is so much toxic diet culture content,
S2: also pro-eating disorder content on the platform. And the reason
S2: that it's really exacerbated it is because of the way
S2: the algorithm works. If you watch, if you come across
S2: one video like Pro-eating disorder or whatever it might be,
S2: and obviously an eating disorder is a mental illness, right?
S2: But if you're in it and then you see someone
S2: like talking about how they lost weight and then you
S2: watch that, then that is going to be your entire feed. Yeah.
S2: And then if you're.
S1: Spending.
S2: Exactly if you're spending like a lot of people are
S2: hours a day on TikTok, you are spending hours a
S2: day absorbed in people promoting eating disorders, essentially. Obviously, that
S2: is not all of TikTok, but that is a very
S2: dark side of TikTok. And what I am so frustrated about,
S2: especially with TikTok, is people that are not experts in
S2: any way. It's like random people. Like often they're like
S2: 18 or something, saying that if you put food combinations together,
S2: it makes like a magic, like secret. There is. I
S2: can't even like, I know we talk about this all
S2: the time with Kik. There is no secret. Like, if
S2: there was a secret, it would have been fucking discovered
S2: 1000 million years ago. Blending oats and lemon and water.
S2: There is no magic formula in there that is going
S2: to change your body. But if you know, but obviously
S2: they might.
S1: But it's not.
S2: Healthy. Exactly right.
S1: Exactly right.
S2: Yeah, that's exactly right in a healthy, sustainable way. And
S2: I think it's just it is just infuriating because it's
S2: not often I think the hardest thing as well is
S2: when this shit is wrapped up in a beautiful, like,
S2: not beautiful in wellness, or it's wrapped up in something
S2: that's like, oh, no, this isn't a diet. This is
S2: just helping me with my digestion or this is and
S2: it is so frustrating. And I think as like for
S2: you and I both, having gone through disordered eating at
S2: a younger age and now having obviously done so much
S2: work on our relationship with food and our body, even
S2: sometimes I'll watch something and I'm like, oh, that seems
S2: like a really like healthy thing or whatever. And then
S2: I think about it, I'm like, oh no, no, this
S2: is this is actually a this is toxic diet culture
S2: wrapped up as something else. And so today what we
S2: wanted to go through was a list of Steffi is
S2: going to run through a list of the diet culture
S2: or toxic diet culture. Red flags from our dietitian live.
S2: Morrison Live is incredible. We've had her on the podcast before.
S2: Let's link. Actually, let's link the last episode we did
S2: with live in the show notes. And also let's have
S2: live back on. I feel like I miss having this
S2: just reminded me of how much I love live. So
S2: we need to do another episode with Live soon. She's
S2: incredible and she works with a lot of people who
S2: are recovering from eating disorders. So she's incredibly experienced in
S2: the area.
S1: And so basically, these red flags are kind of questions
S1: you can ask yourself when you come across diets. Because, look,
S1: there is there is different like there is different kind
S1: of exercise routines and whatever. And you find what works
S1: for you. There is different diets and stuff out there
S1: that might be appropriate for different health issues that you
S1: might be dealing with. However, they should always be prescribed
S1: by a professional for you, not taken from someone online.
S1: But these are the kind of questions that you can
S1: ask yourself if you come across the ones on social media.
S1: So who is it being promoted by? Is it a
S1: trusted source or is it just Joe Blow and that.
S2: One that just ties into what you just said? Yeah.
S2: If a dietitian is giving you a meal plan or
S2: whatever it might be, if an X, whatever accredited expert
S2: is helping you with something, that is absolutely fine. Right.
S2: Totally different. It's especially if you're like, I want to
S2: put more veggies into my diet. I don't know how.
S2: Go to a dietitian. That's incredible. That's amazing. But if
S2: it's not from a accredited health professional, that person has
S2: no credibility in prescribing a diet. Mhm.
S1: Even with things like cutting food groups out and trying
S1: to work out intolerances, that should be led by a professional,
S1: you know. Don't just hear that someone else has some
S1: intolerance or whatever and then cut that entire food group
S1: out because that might not be right for you. So
S1: they will always have a way for you to do
S1: that if that is something that you're looking into. Okay.
S1: Does this have a stop or start time. So this
S1: is very much like any kind of exercise trend and
S1: all of that or anything as well. If it has
S1: a start and stop time, it's it's generally means that
S1: it's not going to be very sustainable, a like a
S1: lot of what we were talking about earlier, these random
S1: fucking mixes that pop up on social media that are disgusting.
S1: You might actually see a bodily change like some sort
S1: of physical change in you, or maybe you'll just shit yourself,
S1: but it doesn't mean that it's a sustainable thing that
S1: you're going to be able to follow long term.
S2: And stop with. The diet is most unless again, if
S2: it's accredited, if it's from a dietitian or whatever, it's very,
S2: very likely to be a fad diet.
S1: 100%, because if you feel like you can't sustain it,
S1: then you stop it for a while and then you
S1: feel like you want to start it again. Like that
S1: is not something that you should be following. Like whatever. Anyway.
S1: Is the thing that you're consuming actually enjoyable? This is massive. Again,
S1: like we want to enjoy life and food for a
S1: lot of people brings a lot of joy. Like for me. Absolutely.
S1: And for that period of time where I was super restrictive,
S1: I was not enjoying food and it made me a
S1: really unhappy person and really stressed all the time about
S1: what I was eating. And none of that is good
S1: on the body. So whatever you are Following. You know,
S1: if you're, as you said, wanting to add more veggies, protein,
S1: whatever in your diet and maybe someone's helping you with that, still,
S1: make sure that you're enjoying whatever you're following. Otherwise, just
S1: like exercise routine, you're not going to sustain it if
S1: you hate it. Can you see yourself implementing that change
S1: long term again to sustainability? If you feel like this diet,
S1: you're like, I don't even know how I'm going to
S1: do this for two weeks. You're not going to be
S1: able to do it for the rest of your life.
S1: So it's that's a red flag. And is it actually
S1: impacting your relationship with yourself or food? Or are you
S1: cutting out multiple food groups? This one's a really big
S1: one as well, because I think going back to what
S1: we both did in the relationship we once had with
S1: food and following different diets and stuff, it did absolutely
S1: impact the relationship we had with ourselves. And that's a
S1: massive flag. If you're if you're following something, especially when
S1: it's from a dietitian or a nutritionist, usually implementing more
S1: good whole foods into your diet makes you feel good
S1: and better. So if whatever you're following is not making
S1: you feel good, Like, that's probably something to look at.
S2: Exactly. Thank you, Stephanie, for sharing them. And just yeah everyone.
S2: Just a reminder because we just know there's so much
S2: toxic diet culture shit out there and it can be
S2: hard to just not be influenced by it. By it. Right?
S2: So we hope that helps any for anyone that needs it.
S2: And if you are struggling with disordered eating or thoughts
S2: around food, the Butterfly Foundation is always available for you.
S2: You can contact them on one 800 Ed Hope.
S5: But is it time for special chef.
S1: Shit now Lucy, you're convinced that we have the same
S1: special share so please go first.
S2: No, I don't think we do anymore. I don't think
S2: we do because I feel like it's a wrap. Before
S2: we started recording this, I was like, I think we've
S2: got the same special. It's like, you look confused, which
S2: means we don't. Well, go. No, you go first.
S1: No, you go first.
S2: Okay, fine. Mine is Emily in Paris. Is that yours?
S2: Very different. Well, are you a big fan?
S1: So I am. However, I have heard that this season
S1: that apparently it's just getting cringier and cringier.
S2: Yeah, yeah, but it's always cringey though.
S1: But apparently it's getting, like even more.
S2: I go into it knowing it's cringey, so I don't,
S2: I don't I'm fine. I'm fine with it. But no,
S2: I haven't.
S1: Watched this season. I have been meaning to, but I haven't,
S1: I have.
S2: Finished, I think there was, I can't, I actually have
S2: no idea because they're not super long and I feel
S2: like in each sitting we watch like a couple, 2
S2: or 3. I think they're probably 30 minutes or something.
S2: I actually don't know. Uh, and what they've done is
S2: they've released the first half of the season, and then
S2: the second half of the season I think is coming,
S2: I don't know, might be out by the time this
S2: episode comes out. I'm not sure. I'm obviously not that
S2: like I'm not like, oh, I'm dying to know what
S2: happens next. It is a little bit corny, but I mean,
S2: that's Emily. I've always found it corny, but I love
S2: I do love the fashion. Yeah. I think the way
S2: they incorporate pop culture and social media into that show.
S2: I have never seen it happen.
S1: Before much cringier.
S2: I feel like the start of it is basically someone
S2: talking about Emily in Paris and talking about why she sucks,
S2: and it's like a viral TikTok video, but it's like
S2: it's so that is so what happens in real? I
S2: don't know, I'm just like, it's so connected to like,
S2: the actual the like the digital world that we live
S2: in now. Exactly. So some of the characters I haven't
S2: loved as much this season, but Sylvie. Yeah. So Sylvie
S2: is the owner of the agency. She is just serving.
S2: I think it's like, similar to Family Affair, which I
S2: know was very lowly rated, but I for me, it
S2: was rated one of my favorite movies of all time
S2: with Nicole Kidman and Zac Efron. Yeah. And I just
S2: feel like any, like, a character that's like a strong woman.
S2: I'm just currently, like, just, oh, it just loving it.
S2: I'm just loving it. So anyway, I'm loving Sylvie. Nice.
S2: Not everything she does don't hold me to everything she
S2: does in the show. I always worry talking, saying I
S2: love a character in case they do something bad. And
S2: then everyone's like, oh my God, Laura likes that behavior.
S2: But no, I just like her overall, okay? She's done
S2: problematic stuff throughout the thing, but I do like her
S2: strength within. We love. Yes. Anyway, yeah, that is all.
S2: What is your special share?
S1: Okay, so mine is this is why I was like,
S1: maybe we do because this is usually coming from you. But, um, no,
S1: it's an imperfect episode and it's with Jack still from
S1: the inspired unemployed.
S2: I have not listened.
S1: It is laws. You would love this episode. So Jack
S1: has struggled with anxiety? Um, for quite a while, and
S1: he speaks so openly about his experience and his mental health,
S1: and also from going from tradies, having a bit of
S1: fun online to suddenly having millions of followers and having
S1: to create content he you will love so much of
S1: what he said. But I also particularly loved when towards
S1: the end he spoke about him and Foulke's relationship and
S1: like having to work with your best friend. They also
S1: live together like go to the gym together, like all
S1: this stuff. Um, and just talking about kind of like
S1: what we've spoken about on here, about being, um, really
S1: open with each other when something's not right or whatever,
S1: or like them avoiding it conversations. It was such a
S1: good episode. I really, really loved it. So I highly
S1: recommend that. And that is my special show. But I
S1: would also like to follow that up with I am obsessed.
S1: I remember last week my special share was a million
S1: Little Things, the show. Yes, I'm like nine episodes in now.
S1: I unlike Emily in Paris, it is absolutely unpredictable. Also, I.
S2: Haven't seen you share anything about it on social media.
S1: Also cliffhanger. Also, every single episode Josh and I have
S1: cried every single episode. It's deep. It is so deep.
S1: But it's also there's also like tears of joy too.
S1: Like it's not just all dark, but it is so
S1: deep and I just, I want to just give it
S1: a second round of special share. Because if you didn't
S1: start watching it after last week's recommendation, please put it
S1: on your list.
S2: I love it. Yeah. Thank you. Steffi. Yeah.
S1: And then the next thing is kick bump this Wednesday
S1: with Doctor Billy Garvey. He is honestly becoming one of
S1: my favorite people. Um, his podcast, Pop Culture Parenting, which
S1: he does with Nick another dad, is epic if you're
S1: looking for, especially if you want to find a podcast
S1: about dealing with like, kids behavior and stuff like that,
S1: and you want your partner or your husband to listen
S1: to it, I feel like Josh has really enjoyed their
S1: content and listening to them, maybe because he can relate
S1: to other dads. He's fantastic. He came on because he's
S1: just launched a new book and it's all about children's
S1: mental health, and he came on to speak about like
S1: behavioral stuff, difference in how anxiety and depression shows up
S1: in children versus adults. I also just like really opened
S1: up to him and like we had a really good
S1: chat and he made me feel really good, um, about
S1: where I'm at with parenting, which is always nice. And
S1: you need to hear it from from people, especially people
S1: like him, because I was like, these things are happening
S1: with Harvey. And he was just like, everything was normal.
S1: So I really recommend this episode. I've been looking forward
S1: to it coming out. Um, so that's on Wednesday.
S2: I've seen his book everywhere. Every time I go to
S2: the bookshop, it's in the front.
S1: Really good. I've read.
S2: It must be very.
S1: Popular. It's very good in the.
S2: Front of the bookstore. So yeah, amazing. Exciting stuff. Thank
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