1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:03,530 S1: Listener. 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:07,820 S2: Kiki acknowledges the traditional owners and custodians of the land 3 00:00:07,820 --> 00:00:11,420 S2: in which we're recording this podcast. The Ulika Wulong clan 4 00:00:11,420 --> 00:00:14,510 S2: of the Boomerang, who were a part of the Kulin nation. 5 00:00:14,510 --> 00:00:17,720 S2: We pay our respects to our elders, past and present, 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,050 S2: and extend our respect to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander 7 00:00:21,050 --> 00:00:25,669 S2: peoples today. Welcome to the Kick Pod a damn with 8 00:00:25,670 --> 00:00:27,710 S2: your besties on the stuff that matters. 9 00:00:27,740 --> 00:00:28,580 S3: One. Two. Three. 10 00:00:36,110 --> 00:00:37,130 UU: One. Two. Three. Four. 11 00:00:37,790 --> 00:00:42,440 S2: Hello, everyone. Hi, guys. Hi, Steffi. Hello. How are you? 12 00:00:42,470 --> 00:00:46,760 S2: I'm good. How are you? Good. How are you? Are 13 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,900 S2: you just loving that? Everyone knows that you are pregnant. 14 00:00:50,900 --> 00:00:54,170 S2: And you can now. I just love that everyone knows 15 00:00:54,170 --> 00:00:56,960 S2: that I'm pregnant. It's just the best wide world. Yeah, 16 00:00:56,990 --> 00:00:59,930 S2: everyone knows. But the cloud lings know. And I just. 17 00:00:59,960 --> 00:01:02,600 S2: It is always so hard when we're. We can't tell 18 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,479 S2: the cloud links yet. 100%. No. It's nice. It's very, 19 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:09,020 S2: very lovely. And yeah, thank you for everyone who's slid 20 00:01:09,020 --> 00:01:11,630 S2: into the DMs. We're very excited. And how are you feeling? 21 00:01:11,630 --> 00:01:14,479 S2: I'm feeling good. I feel like the closer I've like 22 00:01:14,510 --> 00:01:16,760 S2: is in, the closer I got to the second trimester, 23 00:01:16,790 --> 00:01:19,970 S2: that I started to feel better. Um, which, again, so 24 00:01:19,970 --> 00:01:23,030 S2: thankful for because it's not the same for everyone. Um, 25 00:01:23,030 --> 00:01:24,980 S2: but yeah, I'm excited to have a bit of my 26 00:01:24,980 --> 00:01:29,750 S2: energy back. I find it so interesting that in pregnancy 27 00:01:29,750 --> 00:01:33,710 S2: that generally the first trimester can. The last trimester is 28 00:01:33,709 --> 00:01:36,709 S2: obviously difficult physically, your hips and yeah, yeah, yeah. But 29 00:01:36,709 --> 00:01:39,200 S2: between the first and the second trimester. So first trimester 30 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,930 S2: is 0 to 12 weeks and then 12 to 24. 31 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:43,789 S2: Is it the second. Are they both 12 weeks. Yep 32 00:01:43,790 --> 00:01:46,190 S2: I think so okay. Yeah guys don't quote me on 33 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:50,150 S2: nine months three months three months three months knowledge. Yeah okay. Cool. 34 00:01:50,180 --> 00:01:56,090 S2: So the first three months the the baby is tiny, 35 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,730 S2: like the size of a date it gets. Yeah. Around that. 36 00:01:58,820 --> 00:02:01,390 S2: So but your body is so tired building it to 37 00:02:01,420 --> 00:02:03,280 S2: the size of a date. And then when it needs 38 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:04,930 S2: to build it to this, what size does it get 39 00:02:04,930 --> 00:02:06,700 S2: to at the end of the second trimester? Oh God, 40 00:02:06,700 --> 00:02:09,250 S2: I don't know. Probably like an eggplant I don't know, 41 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,380 S2: it's like quite large. Yeah. You'd think that would take 42 00:02:11,380 --> 00:02:13,960 S2: more energy. I just I find it so interesting, like 43 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,020 S2: how the energy is so different between the two trimesters. Yeah. 44 00:02:17,050 --> 00:02:19,900 S2: I actually don't know the science behind why that is. 45 00:02:19,930 --> 00:02:22,150 S2: I mean, it's literally your career. And of course, I 46 00:02:22,150 --> 00:02:24,550 S2: know some people have unfortunately like morning sickness throughout the 47 00:02:24,669 --> 00:02:26,860 S2: literally until they come. Yeah. For some people it does 48 00:02:26,889 --> 00:02:29,950 S2: alleviate 100%. I think maybe it's just because it's going 49 00:02:29,950 --> 00:02:36,070 S2: from like literally nothing existing to organs producing bones building 50 00:02:36,100 --> 00:02:41,200 S2: like it's it's weird. It's so weird like that. Yeah. Fingernails, like, 51 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,380 S2: everything just starts to form in your body. Wait, so 52 00:02:44,380 --> 00:02:46,000 S2: the fingernails. Oh, my God. Of course, the baby is 53 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,970 S2: born with fingernails. Yeah, I think by now it's like 54 00:02:48,970 --> 00:02:51,460 S2: most of it's. No, some of it's spinal cord is, like, 55 00:02:51,490 --> 00:02:54,970 S2: been created. I don't know how to explain it created. Yes. 56 00:02:54,970 --> 00:02:57,700 S2: I'm creating a human in my belly. Wow. Um. It's 57 00:02:57,700 --> 00:02:59,440 S2: quite it's quite fascinating. I've got an app that, like, 58 00:02:59,470 --> 00:03:01,570 S2: tells you each week that you tick over like the 59 00:03:01,570 --> 00:03:04,900 S2: fun facts of like what's happening and I it's funny 60 00:03:04,900 --> 00:03:06,490 S2: because a lot of people were like, oh, second time around, 61 00:03:06,490 --> 00:03:08,470 S2: you just don't. You're not as fascinated. But I think 62 00:03:08,470 --> 00:03:13,660 S2: because it's been almost four years since Harvey, I am 63 00:03:13,660 --> 00:03:16,060 S2: still fascinated by it. It's like I want to be 64 00:03:16,060 --> 00:03:18,820 S2: just as excited this time around. So I'm still loving 65 00:03:18,820 --> 00:03:22,390 S2: the updates because I've forgotten it all. Of course. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, well, 66 00:03:22,389 --> 00:03:24,340 S2: there you go. Well, I'm glad you're starting to feel 67 00:03:24,340 --> 00:03:29,950 S2: more energized. That's awesome to hear. Now, now we are 68 00:03:29,950 --> 00:03:36,580 S2: going to say something that is forget Black Friday. Yeah, yeah. Well, 69 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,670 S2: you know, that is just give it a moment. The 70 00:03:39,670 --> 00:03:44,680 S2: statement forget Black Friday and the reason why we're saying that. 71 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,980 S2: Because we know lots of people love Black Friday. I mean, 72 00:03:47,980 --> 00:03:50,710 S2: it's a great time to get in for your Christmas shopping. It's, 73 00:03:50,740 --> 00:03:52,510 S2: you know, it's a great time of year to stop. 74 00:03:52,540 --> 00:03:56,560 S2: But for us, ruining the campaign, the campaign is forget 75 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,640 S2: Black Friday for us, it doesn't make sense, because we 76 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,180 S2: know that 88% of you are more likely to move 77 00:04:03,180 --> 00:04:05,190 S2: on a Monday at Kik. So at Kik, it doesn't 78 00:04:05,190 --> 00:04:07,290 S2: make sense. It doesn't make sense there. Black Friday does 79 00:04:07,290 --> 00:04:10,380 S2: also contribute to quite a bit of landfill. So I 80 00:04:10,380 --> 00:04:12,750 S2: think there are some there's some reasons also that we 81 00:04:12,750 --> 00:04:16,350 S2: feel quite passionate about Black Friday. But yes you're right. 82 00:04:16,740 --> 00:04:19,920 S2: So at Kik we were like, well why does Friday 83 00:04:19,950 --> 00:04:23,430 S2: get all of the hype. So we are now going 84 00:04:23,430 --> 00:04:28,050 S2: to be over the next month together celebrating Mondays. Now 85 00:04:28,050 --> 00:04:31,349 S2: you might think, how are we going to celebrate Mondays? Well, 86 00:04:31,350 --> 00:04:34,110 S2: your favorite day of the week just got better. That's 87 00:04:34,110 --> 00:04:36,060 S2: a good line, isn't it? I really like that one. 88 00:04:36,060 --> 00:04:39,330 S2: Yeah yeah okay. Yes yes we our amazing team wrote 89 00:04:39,330 --> 00:04:43,260 S2: this also. So it's not like we're complimenting ourself here. Okay. 90 00:04:43,260 --> 00:04:49,919 S2: So number one our brand new Pilates trainer Greta. Now 91 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,100 S2: we have not dropped a new trainer to you guys 92 00:04:53,100 --> 00:04:56,310 S2: for quite a while now. You have been asking for 93 00:04:56,310 --> 00:04:59,849 S2: a new trainer. We know you love Pilates, and so 94 00:04:59,850 --> 00:05:02,190 S2: we have come to you with the best of the best. 95 00:05:02,190 --> 00:05:06,900 S2: So Greta is the ClassPass trainer of the year. Now, 96 00:05:06,900 --> 00:05:10,440 S2: if anyone it basically her classes. If you know you 97 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:15,000 S2: know they are waitlisted forever. She is an incredible reformer 98 00:05:15,029 --> 00:05:19,710 S2: instructor at kick. She is teaching mat Pilates that will 99 00:05:19,710 --> 00:05:22,770 S2: help you get your reformer fix from home. And just 100 00:05:22,770 --> 00:05:24,660 S2: a note there, you don't need a reformer to do 101 00:05:24,690 --> 00:05:27,270 S2: her classes there. Reformer inspired. So a lot of the moves, 102 00:05:27,270 --> 00:05:29,820 S2: I think we think, oh, in order to, you know, 103 00:05:29,850 --> 00:05:33,180 S2: get the benefits of a reformer class or using a reformer, 104 00:05:33,210 --> 00:05:36,120 S2: you need a reformer. Absolutely not. We also know that 105 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,880 S2: not everyone has well, very, very few people have access 106 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,840 S2: to a reformer. So Greta is the solution to that. 107 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,540 S2: And I also have to say, as someone who filmed 108 00:05:45,540 --> 00:05:49,140 S2: the workouts with Greta and could not walk for a 109 00:05:49,140 --> 00:05:53,940 S2: few days afterwards, Greta is so in terms of Pilates style, 110 00:05:53,940 --> 00:05:57,000 S2: she's very, very strong. So I feel like it's a 111 00:05:57,020 --> 00:06:00,020 S2: combination of if you lack strength training and you lack Pilates, 112 00:06:00,050 --> 00:06:02,989 S2: but maybe something with like for me, for Pilates. I 113 00:06:02,990 --> 00:06:09,170 S2: do prefer strength based Pilates. This is like my yeah style. 114 00:06:09,170 --> 00:06:11,600 S2: It doesn't move too fast so you don't have to 115 00:06:11,630 --> 00:06:13,130 S2: worry about, oh, I can't keep up with the instructor. 116 00:06:13,130 --> 00:06:15,500 S2: You will be able to keep up with Greta, but 117 00:06:15,529 --> 00:06:19,789 S2: there is a slow and strong strong burn. I don't 118 00:06:19,790 --> 00:06:23,300 S2: think I've ever felt so much muscle soreness after filming 119 00:06:23,300 --> 00:06:25,970 S2: before than with Greta. So we are just. So you 120 00:06:25,970 --> 00:06:28,130 S2: were just going to absolutely love her? Of course she 121 00:06:28,130 --> 00:06:30,740 S2: has the kick energy. She's just oh my goodness. She 122 00:06:30,770 --> 00:06:33,890 S2: is amazing. So so so excited for you to meet her. 123 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:38,599 S2: Now number two new workouts will be dropping every Monday 124 00:06:38,630 --> 00:06:42,560 S2: to get you moving. Number three we are giving away 125 00:06:42,589 --> 00:06:46,160 S2: cash prizes on Mondays just for moving because we need 126 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,980 S2: to celebrate that. It is amazing. So today we are 127 00:06:48,980 --> 00:06:53,240 S2: actually giving away $1,000. I mean amazing, great before Christmas 128 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,330 S2: to go into the draw, complete any kick workout on 129 00:06:56,330 --> 00:06:57,950 S2: a Monday so you need to complete it on a 130 00:06:57,950 --> 00:07:01,460 S2: Monday because we are celebrating Mondays. Use the share feature 131 00:07:01,460 --> 00:07:04,729 S2: in App Share on Instagram. And just in terms of 132 00:07:04,730 --> 00:07:06,710 S2: what that is, after you finish a workout, it will 133 00:07:06,710 --> 00:07:09,289 S2: come up at the end with well done, you're amazing. 134 00:07:09,290 --> 00:07:11,150 S2: And then there's a share button. It is quite big. 135 00:07:11,150 --> 00:07:12,710 S2: We'll share it on our Instagram as well, so you 136 00:07:12,710 --> 00:07:15,650 S2: can see what that is and share that on your Instagram. 137 00:07:15,650 --> 00:07:18,380 S2: But just make sure you have your profile on public 138 00:07:18,380 --> 00:07:21,230 S2: so we can see it and tag us. Exactly. Yes, 139 00:07:21,230 --> 00:07:23,570 S2: that would be helpful. Otherwise it is unlikely we will 140 00:07:23,570 --> 00:07:26,360 S2: see it if you don't tag us. And now number four, 141 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,730 S2: which is I think a lot of the cloud links 142 00:07:28,730 --> 00:07:30,890 S2: will be very excited by this. Steffi, what is it? 143 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,140 S2: If you are new to Kik, if you haven't joined 144 00:07:33,140 --> 00:07:35,570 S2: us already, you can get 50% off your first month 145 00:07:35,570 --> 00:07:38,690 S2: with Kik. So don't wait for Friday. Come and join 146 00:07:38,690 --> 00:07:41,510 S2: us now on a Monday and get 50% off your 147 00:07:41,510 --> 00:07:45,830 S2: first month and enjoy the new classes with Gretta! So exciting! Woohoo! 148 00:07:46,910 --> 00:07:51,980 S2: Now TikTok. Yes, you're scrolling at night, late at night, 149 00:07:52,010 --> 00:07:56,000 S2: or whenever the heck you scroll. I'm scrolling through and 150 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,230 S2: every now and then there are things that, to be honest, 151 00:07:59,230 --> 00:08:02,590 S2: drive me crazy. And it's okay. Like, I know some people, 152 00:08:02,590 --> 00:08:05,980 S2: we all have our own thoughts. Opinions like things don't 153 00:08:05,980 --> 00:08:09,910 S2: like things. That is our prerogative. And my prerogative is 154 00:08:09,910 --> 00:08:12,700 S2: to not like some things I'm about to talk about. 155 00:08:12,730 --> 00:08:15,100 S2: I think the most annoying thing about it, I love them, 156 00:08:15,100 --> 00:08:17,020 S2: I know, but I think the most annoying thing about 157 00:08:17,020 --> 00:08:19,000 S2: it and like this is no shade. Well, it kind 158 00:08:19,030 --> 00:08:20,470 S2: of is a bit of shade on TikTok, but like, 159 00:08:20,500 --> 00:08:23,679 S2: this is my thing that annoys me the most. Naturally. Right? 160 00:08:23,710 --> 00:08:27,400 S2: Algorithm we exactly. We should scroll past things that we 161 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,220 S2: don't like. We should do that, right? But sometimes you 162 00:08:30,220 --> 00:08:32,290 S2: get so sucked in to kind of like, hate watching 163 00:08:32,290 --> 00:08:34,959 S2: something that you're like, oh God, I just have to 164 00:08:34,990 --> 00:08:37,660 S2: watch this now. And then once you watch a whole video, 165 00:08:37,660 --> 00:08:40,000 S2: TikTok thinks you like it. And so then your feeds 166 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,780 S2: full of it. That's something that I hate. So, so true, 167 00:08:43,809 --> 00:08:47,950 S2: so true. Now, this is actually, I think this might 168 00:08:47,950 --> 00:08:50,260 S2: possibly become a little bit of a segment. Okay, cool. 169 00:08:50,290 --> 00:08:52,809 S2: So what this segment is going to become and you 170 00:08:52,809 --> 00:08:55,330 S2: guys please send it in to us as well. What 171 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,150 S2: trends can you get around that you love? You're like, yes, 172 00:08:58,150 --> 00:09:00,070 S2: this trend is adding value to my life, I love it. 173 00:09:00,070 --> 00:09:01,870 S2: And which ones do you like? Please can this trend 174 00:09:01,900 --> 00:09:05,170 S2: go to sleep and not come back? Okay, sleep and 175 00:09:05,170 --> 00:09:07,780 S2: look on the algorithm not to come back up. So 176 00:09:07,780 --> 00:09:09,730 S2: the one I saw the other day and I just, 177 00:09:09,730 --> 00:09:11,980 S2: I feel like this one has just got a little 178 00:09:12,010 --> 00:09:15,069 S2: bit out of control. This is for me personally, but 179 00:09:15,070 --> 00:09:19,000 S2: it is the TikTok morning shed. Yeah. Have you seen this? 180 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,429 S2: This is like when there's, like, a lot to undo 181 00:09:21,429 --> 00:09:23,530 S2: in the morning, right? Is that is that what it is? 182 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,320 S2: There is a lot. Not just like a few things. 183 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,860 S2: There is a lot to undo in the morning. So 184 00:09:29,860 --> 00:09:33,040 S2: basically it's people say they're shedding the skin, hair and 185 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,020 S2: other products that they sleep in. And when we say 186 00:09:35,050 --> 00:09:38,200 S2: like shedding their skin and hair, it's things they've put 187 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,890 S2: on top of their skin and hair that they shed. 188 00:09:41,890 --> 00:09:43,870 S2: So then in the they say like they go to 189 00:09:43,900 --> 00:09:48,010 S2: bed looking crazy, wake up looking amazing because they shed 190 00:09:48,370 --> 00:09:53,949 S2: this stuff. Yeah, I am absolutely overwhelmed by the amount 191 00:09:53,980 --> 00:09:57,060 S2: of stuff that these people are putting on and taking 192 00:09:57,059 --> 00:09:59,490 S2: off and like all power to them. I just I 193 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,579 S2: think about it and I'm like, it's just so unachievable 194 00:10:02,580 --> 00:10:06,360 S2: for me personally. So particularly if it's like a thing 195 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,670 S2: that most people are saying you should do every, every day. 196 00:10:08,700 --> 00:10:11,280 S2: Oh my goodness me. So first of all, it's things 197 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,949 S2: include the silk hair bonnet. I mean that's that's fine. 198 00:10:13,950 --> 00:10:15,570 S2: I think that's quick. If you want to put a 199 00:10:15,570 --> 00:10:17,670 S2: bonnet on your hair or just have a silk pillowcase. 200 00:10:17,700 --> 00:10:20,460 S2: Yeah that's fine, I think also with those silk bonnet, 201 00:10:20,490 --> 00:10:22,290 S2: I think a lot of them are also going over those, 202 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:26,099 S2: like curling things. They never fucking work. I have tried 203 00:10:26,100 --> 00:10:31,080 S2: three different brands of the curling. She's talking about heatless curlers, 204 00:10:31,110 --> 00:10:34,140 S2: heatless curlers and they never, I don't know, it's probably 205 00:10:34,140 --> 00:10:37,110 S2: just my hair type, but they never, ever work. And 206 00:10:37,110 --> 00:10:38,730 S2: so every time I see a TikTok, I undo it 207 00:10:38,730 --> 00:10:40,439 S2: in the morning and it looks fabulous. I just get 208 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,170 S2: so frustrated because I was like, I'm like, that's just 209 00:10:43,170 --> 00:10:44,970 S2: never been the case for me. And it would actually 210 00:10:44,970 --> 00:10:47,280 S2: take me less time to do my hair in the 211 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,609 S2: morning with a hot curler or something than it would 212 00:10:50,610 --> 00:10:52,709 S2: to try and do before bed, and then it fail 213 00:10:52,710 --> 00:10:54,120 S2: in the morning, and me have to try and fix 214 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,069 S2: it anyway. I don't get it. I don't get that one. 215 00:10:56,100 --> 00:10:58,380 S2: I agree, and I do think as well. It's like 216 00:10:58,380 --> 00:11:01,650 S2: sometimes there's any even when sometimes people like promote like 217 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,560 S2: their airwrap. For example, I have an airwrap, I love it. Yeah. 218 00:11:04,590 --> 00:11:07,470 S2: When a hairdresser uses an airwrap what it looks like, 219 00:11:07,500 --> 00:11:09,060 S2: I'm like, oh my God, wow, you can create that 220 00:11:09,059 --> 00:11:11,550 S2: at home. And then I try and like, no, I can't. Right. 221 00:11:11,550 --> 00:11:13,380 S2: So I feel like as well with the heatless curls, 222 00:11:13,380 --> 00:11:15,750 S2: there are some people that pull it out and I'm like, okay, 223 00:11:15,750 --> 00:11:18,750 S2: I know my hair would not look like that. But 224 00:11:18,750 --> 00:11:20,429 S2: then there's also like, I feel like as well, the 225 00:11:20,429 --> 00:11:23,070 S2: effort to put in a heatless curl. It takes quite 226 00:11:23,100 --> 00:11:26,610 S2: a lot of time. I've also I remember I saw 227 00:11:26,700 --> 00:11:30,480 S2: Michelle Andrews from shameless talk about it, and I think 228 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,150 S2: it was her stylist did a review of I think 229 00:11:33,150 --> 00:11:36,600 S2: three of the team reviewed Heatless curls. It was very 230 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,520 S2: honest review, which I loved and I think it was Michelle. 231 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,189 S2: But one person said like, I had the worst sleep 232 00:11:41,190 --> 00:11:43,949 S2: of my life because it's so uncomfortable. Thing is like 233 00:11:43,980 --> 00:11:45,660 S2: rock hard in my head and I have a sore 234 00:11:45,660 --> 00:11:48,420 S2: neck and no nice hair is worth it. And also 235 00:11:48,450 --> 00:11:51,689 S2: the hair is this. It's okay. Yeah. It's not. Yeah. 236 00:11:51,690 --> 00:11:54,470 S2: So the hair bonnet over in your right. The hair 237 00:11:54,470 --> 00:11:56,780 S2: bonnet usually is because of the heatless curlers, which takes 238 00:11:56,780 --> 00:11:58,910 S2: so much time to put on. The lip stain. Have 239 00:11:58,910 --> 00:12:01,160 S2: you seen that? The lip stain. People like paint this 240 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:02,960 S2: thing on their lips and then they peel it off 241 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,290 S2: and your lips, like, look like they have a tint. Essentially, 242 00:12:06,290 --> 00:12:08,360 S2: just do that in the morning. Those lip stains work 243 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,730 S2: in like five seconds. It's the shed. Okay, this is 244 00:12:10,730 --> 00:12:13,550 S2: why I don't. I just don't think it's necessary. Um. 245 00:12:13,550 --> 00:12:16,370 S2: Mouth tape. Now, I have to say, I actually am 246 00:12:16,370 --> 00:12:19,219 S2: mouth taping at the moment. It takes five seconds and I. 247 00:12:19,250 --> 00:12:21,530 S2: But I'm not buying expensive. I've literally go to the chemist. 248 00:12:21,710 --> 00:12:23,990 S2: This is a hack for you, for mouth tape. You 249 00:12:23,990 --> 00:12:26,360 S2: go to whatever chemist you go to. And I think 250 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,640 S2: the brand is like nexavar or something. It's like a, um, 251 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,550 S2: it's just like a tape thing that you use on wounds, 252 00:12:31,550 --> 00:12:35,780 S2: but it's a white, very thin tape. Yeah. I don't 253 00:12:35,780 --> 00:12:38,120 S2: put it across my mouth. I put it from, like, 254 00:12:38,150 --> 00:12:41,510 S2: my nose to my chin. Yep. Vertically. Okay. And I 255 00:12:41,510 --> 00:12:42,800 S2: but I don't go all the way through my nose. 256 00:12:42,830 --> 00:12:44,420 S2: It's just kind of just wanted to. You could. Yeah. 257 00:12:44,450 --> 00:12:46,219 S2: And you can still kind of talk a tiny bit, 258 00:12:46,220 --> 00:12:48,110 S2: but what it helps you do is to breathe through 259 00:12:48,140 --> 00:12:49,910 S2: your nose when you're sleeping, which can help you get 260 00:12:49,910 --> 00:12:52,310 S2: a deeper sleep, which is scientifically proven. And yes, I 261 00:12:52,309 --> 00:12:54,350 S2: have to say, I am about that. But that's that's 262 00:12:54,350 --> 00:12:58,520 S2: the extent that I'm going to chin strap, a chin strap, 263 00:12:58,550 --> 00:13:02,750 S2: a chin strap, like, what's it strapping to? Like you 264 00:13:02,750 --> 00:13:03,950 S2: put it on like you put it around. I think 265 00:13:03,950 --> 00:13:05,930 S2: you put it around your ears and it straps up. 266 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:07,850 S2: And I think it's meant to, like, lift your face 267 00:13:07,850 --> 00:13:10,819 S2: or something. I just like, we don't need. Oh, that 268 00:13:10,820 --> 00:13:12,349 S2: reminds me of, like, the brace that I had to 269 00:13:12,380 --> 00:13:14,570 S2: wear with my braces. Yeah, but it's not for braces. 270 00:13:14,570 --> 00:13:19,880 S2: It's for. It's for shedding in the morning. Collagen wrap masks, 271 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,900 S2: wrinkle patches and under eye masks. It's just. Yeah. It's 272 00:13:23,900 --> 00:13:27,200 S2: just if you. I also think if you were to 273 00:13:27,230 --> 00:13:29,150 S2: add up, first of all, the amount of time that 274 00:13:29,150 --> 00:13:32,510 S2: takes to put all of this stuff on, I'm going 275 00:13:32,540 --> 00:13:35,030 S2: to say, especially with the heatless curls one hour. Yeah. 276 00:13:35,179 --> 00:13:37,520 S2: And then the cost of this. But that's it. Like 277 00:13:37,550 --> 00:13:38,960 S2: things like a face mask. You can't use that more 278 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,620 S2: than once. No. So like it just I just feel 279 00:13:42,620 --> 00:13:45,890 S2: like it has got to another. And I do think 280 00:13:45,890 --> 00:13:48,320 S2: as well, like another level that is just probably a 281 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:52,220 S2: bit inaccessible and unnecessary. And I also think on TikTok 282 00:13:52,220 --> 00:13:55,240 S2: as well. This is what I struggle with with the algorithm, 283 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,599 S2: is that the more shocking the start of the video is, 284 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,550 S2: the more likely people will watch it, the more likely 285 00:14:00,550 --> 00:14:03,609 S2: to go viral. So when people are doing this shed, 286 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,520 S2: the more stuff they're peeling off. Like the ASMR stuff. 287 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,730 S2: That's what gets people engaged in the video. And so 288 00:14:09,730 --> 00:14:12,310 S2: I feel like this trend has taken off, but kind 289 00:14:12,340 --> 00:14:14,290 S2: of also because of the algorithm, because the more like 290 00:14:14,290 --> 00:14:16,569 S2: you're shedding off, the more engaging it is, and then 291 00:14:16,570 --> 00:14:20,050 S2: it's actually become something that is putting more pressure on people. 292 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,450 S2: I just I just think if you don't have time, 293 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,660 S2: don't do it, don't feel pressure. You don't need to 294 00:14:25,660 --> 00:14:29,470 S2: be shedding to wake up as like a caterpillar. Like 295 00:14:29,500 --> 00:14:32,470 S2: it's honestly like it's a caterpillar. They said a caterpillar 296 00:14:32,470 --> 00:14:34,210 S2: who sheds. No. They turn into a butterfly. They turn 297 00:14:34,210 --> 00:14:37,570 S2: into a butterfly, a snake, a snake, a snake. But 298 00:14:37,570 --> 00:14:39,700 S2: they shed, I think they shed once a year after 299 00:14:39,700 --> 00:14:42,550 S2: they've gone into hibernation. We do not mean to be 300 00:14:42,550 --> 00:14:45,550 S2: doing this 365 nights of the year. So I just 301 00:14:45,550 --> 00:14:47,620 S2: want to say that is a trend that I'm not about, 302 00:14:47,620 --> 00:14:51,310 S2: apart from the mouth tape. Okay, Steffi, you know what's 303 00:14:51,310 --> 00:14:53,950 S2: funny is I've actually I keep getting targeted by this 304 00:14:53,950 --> 00:14:56,770 S2: face mask. I mean, I think everyone who follows me 305 00:14:56,770 --> 00:15:00,310 S2: would know. Now, I am a massive fan of face masks, 306 00:15:00,310 --> 00:15:03,130 S2: particularly James Cosmetics. I've been wearing them for years. But 307 00:15:03,130 --> 00:15:04,870 S2: I gotta say, when I think of James Cosmetics, I 308 00:15:04,870 --> 00:15:09,190 S2: think of you. Not the founder or anything. Just me. Um, 309 00:15:09,220 --> 00:15:12,340 S2: but it's it's funny. It's like it's the there's this 310 00:15:12,340 --> 00:15:15,580 S2: brand that keeps targeting me, and I'm so close to 311 00:15:15,610 --> 00:15:18,490 S2: buying it, but it's a face mask that you wear overnight. 312 00:15:18,490 --> 00:15:23,680 S2: And the results that people are showing in the morning is, like, unreal. Like, 313 00:15:23,710 --> 00:15:24,790 S2: are you sure? But how do you know? But I 314 00:15:24,790 --> 00:15:26,410 S2: wouldn't use it every night. But how do you know? 315 00:15:26,740 --> 00:15:29,050 S2: Is it reusable? No no no no no no. Like 316 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,270 S2: it's it would be like a special face mask. Like, 317 00:15:31,300 --> 00:15:33,850 S2: I know like the next day I'm doing something, but 318 00:15:33,850 --> 00:15:35,650 S2: you wear it the whole night. You wear it. So 319 00:15:35,650 --> 00:15:38,110 S2: sleep is a part of the shed process. Yes. Okay, 320 00:15:38,140 --> 00:15:40,780 S2: so you are. Now I'm about to become. I would 321 00:15:40,780 --> 00:15:43,090 S2: maybe try this mask, but I wouldn't do it with 322 00:15:43,090 --> 00:15:45,190 S2: the heatless curlers and the bonnet and the. And the 323 00:15:45,190 --> 00:15:47,800 S2: lip tape. Is it uncomfortable to sleep with a mask 324 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,810 S2: for the entire night? No, it's like a well, I 325 00:15:49,810 --> 00:15:51,010 S2: don't know. I haven't slept with it. 326 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,190 S1: I don't know. It looks like it like. 327 00:15:53,550 --> 00:15:55,350 S2: Goes to your face. Do you know what? Can you 328 00:15:55,350 --> 00:15:56,280 S2: find it? I honestly haven't. 329 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:57,750 S1: Even clicked on the ad yet, but I keep getting 330 00:15:57,780 --> 00:15:58,229 S1: targeted with it. 331 00:15:58,260 --> 00:16:01,020 S2: Can I just say also what? Steph is a sucker 332 00:16:01,020 --> 00:16:03,750 S2: for an ad if you. I actually am. 333 00:16:03,780 --> 00:16:06,210 S1: No I am. I click on that many freaking ads. 334 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:06,900 S1: I really do. 335 00:16:06,930 --> 00:16:08,430 S2: I mean, that's the point of them. But I do 336 00:16:08,430 --> 00:16:10,890 S2: feel like you make a lot of purchase decisions based 337 00:16:10,890 --> 00:16:14,130 S2: on who targets you on Instagram and meta. It's true. 338 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,160 S2: So brands listening send your ads to Steph. It's true. 339 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:18,180 S2: We'll purchase. 340 00:16:18,660 --> 00:16:21,990 S1: I'm impulse shopper for sure. Um, although you know what? 341 00:16:21,990 --> 00:16:24,510 S1: I'm an impulse. Put it in my cart. I'm not 342 00:16:24,510 --> 00:16:27,600 S1: necessarily always purchasing, but I do put it in my 343 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,330 S1: cart pretty quickly. And then I get the emails. It's 344 00:16:30,330 --> 00:16:31,650 S1: like you forgot something. You've abandoned. 345 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,510 S2: Your cart. That's good. That's good. 346 00:16:33,540 --> 00:16:36,390 S1: So something that I saw, and I'm actually. I'm really. 347 00:16:36,390 --> 00:16:38,430 S1: So we've been laughing a little bit at this. This 348 00:16:38,430 --> 00:16:41,190 S1: is again the diet trends that pop up. Like obviously 349 00:16:41,220 --> 00:16:44,850 S1: we've spoken about our stance on this before. It's not okay. 350 00:16:44,850 --> 00:16:47,910 S1: And this one I actually saw pop up because I 351 00:16:47,910 --> 00:16:51,420 S1: 40 I 40 I follow body and Soul on Instagram, 352 00:16:51,420 --> 00:16:53,370 S1: and it was an article that they wrote about a trend, 353 00:16:53,370 --> 00:16:56,100 S1: and I'm really grateful that this trend hadn't actually popped 354 00:16:56,100 --> 00:16:59,160 S1: up on my feed, because obviously I'm doing a very 355 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:03,090 S1: good job at scrolling past market trends, which is great. Um, 356 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,600 S1: but I wondered if you'd heard of it. Um, but 357 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:11,910 S1: it's it's called. Wait, okra water trend. Okra is a vegetable, 358 00:17:11,910 --> 00:17:13,440 S1: and it's this water. 359 00:17:13,470 --> 00:17:14,580 S2: I've never heard of this vegetable. 360 00:17:14,609 --> 00:17:17,190 S1: Okay, cool. So it's it's it's the way it's described 361 00:17:17,190 --> 00:17:21,869 S1: is a slimy drink with slimy claims. Body and soul says. 362 00:17:21,869 --> 00:17:25,230 S1: And what was really good about this article is that 363 00:17:25,230 --> 00:17:29,220 S1: they got a dietitian to actually talk about the vegetable 364 00:17:29,220 --> 00:17:30,750 S1: and the drink and like what it would actually do. 365 00:17:30,780 --> 00:17:33,540 S1: The problem I have with this trend is that people 366 00:17:33,540 --> 00:17:37,950 S1: are talking about it improving fertility or libido and like 367 00:17:37,980 --> 00:17:41,820 S1: all this other stuff, and people are drinking like making 368 00:17:41,820 --> 00:17:47,879 S1: this every day and drinking this slimy, disgusting water. Right. Um, and, 369 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,060 S1: and talking about all these, like, benefits, etc. the dietitian 370 00:17:51,060 --> 00:17:53,850 S1: breaks it down and basically says, like, other than it 371 00:17:53,850 --> 00:17:56,430 S1: being like super high in fiber, which like the vegetable 372 00:17:56,430 --> 00:17:58,560 S1: is fine to eat in any kind of balanced diet, 373 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,649 S1: but concentrated to that level is an issue. Like, it 374 00:18:01,650 --> 00:18:04,260 S1: can really like fuck with your digestive system and etc. 375 00:18:04,260 --> 00:18:06,000 S1: so they have like a lot of problems with this trend, 376 00:18:06,030 --> 00:18:08,310 S1: just like any other trend that you see, like the 377 00:18:08,310 --> 00:18:10,050 S1: water with the chia seeds in it and stuff like that, 378 00:18:10,050 --> 00:18:12,060 S1: there's nothing wrong with chia seeds, okay? There's a lot 379 00:18:12,060 --> 00:18:14,970 S1: of benefits in chia seeds, but drinking them concentrated in 380 00:18:14,970 --> 00:18:17,550 S1: a water like every day there's a problem with overconsumption. 381 00:18:17,580 --> 00:18:20,280 S2: Of the trend was called shower in your body. Yeah 382 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:21,720 S2: yeah yeah yeah. Internal shower. 383 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,430 S1: So I just wanted to bring it up because again, 384 00:18:23,430 --> 00:18:27,000 S1: it's just another example of like when you actually get 385 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:31,590 S1: a dietitian or like scientist behind it to break it down. 386 00:18:31,619 --> 00:18:34,950 S1: It's like there is there's so many false claims with 387 00:18:34,950 --> 00:18:37,800 S1: this trend. Do not buy into it. Do not see it. 388 00:18:37,830 --> 00:18:40,020 S1: Like this trend is like, I don't know if it's 389 00:18:40,050 --> 00:18:42,810 S1: weight loss, if it's fertility, if it's libido like. And 390 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,060 S1: the thing about it that's really hard with fertility that 391 00:18:45,060 --> 00:18:48,810 S1: is such a fucking like that is such a delicate 392 00:18:48,810 --> 00:18:50,869 S1: space that if you are in that and you are 393 00:18:50,869 --> 00:18:52,820 S1: struggling through that, to see something like, oh, if I 394 00:18:52,850 --> 00:18:54,800 S1: chop up a vegetable and put it in my water, 395 00:18:54,830 --> 00:18:57,080 S1: you probably fucking do it because you are so desperate 396 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,020 S1: for that, right? And that's fair, but so unfair because 397 00:19:00,020 --> 00:19:03,980 S1: it's not actually proven or scientifically backed. So just again, 398 00:19:03,980 --> 00:19:08,360 S1: another example of a kind of vegetable diet trend that 399 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,220 S1: is just absolutely bonkers and false. 400 00:19:10,250 --> 00:19:11,899 S2: I just wanted to fall off my chair while you 401 00:19:11,930 --> 00:19:14,119 S2: were talking about that. I think as well, what's really 402 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,989 S2: difficult is with and this comes back to the algorithm. 403 00:19:17,990 --> 00:19:20,990 S2: I mean, it's it's all platforms, but I think TikTok 404 00:19:20,990 --> 00:19:26,780 S2: has probably exacerbated it quite a bit. But when people 405 00:19:26,780 --> 00:19:30,020 S2: used to talk about, you know, for example, cacao has 406 00:19:30,020 --> 00:19:33,109 S2: benefits like it has magnesium in it, it can contribute, 407 00:19:33,109 --> 00:19:36,409 S2: it can help with muscle soreness, blah, blah things. But 408 00:19:36,410 --> 00:19:39,650 S2: when a dietician talks about that, it's the language is 409 00:19:39,650 --> 00:19:43,310 S2: this can help with this this it's not a solution. No. 410 00:19:43,340 --> 00:19:47,690 S2: And I think what's difficult exactly what's difficult with TikTok 411 00:19:47,690 --> 00:19:52,240 S2: in particular with the algorithm is using language like it can. 412 00:19:52,270 --> 00:19:56,470 S2: Some people put in kind of disclaimers around it and 413 00:19:56,470 --> 00:20:01,450 S2: the like the science backed stuff? That is not a hook. No. 414 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:05,230 S2: And what hooks is definitive language around like this will 415 00:20:05,230 --> 00:20:08,050 S2: improve your fertility, of course. And as you said, Sophie, 416 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,240 S2: like if you're going through and it's also very likely 417 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:14,470 S2: if you're going through infertility, your algorithm on TikTok, probably, 418 00:20:14,470 --> 00:20:16,869 S2: if that's what you're searching and watching, is going to 419 00:20:16,869 --> 00:20:18,790 S2: be on things that people are saying is going to 420 00:20:18,790 --> 00:20:21,340 S2: help you. Right. And I think what's hard about it 421 00:20:21,340 --> 00:20:25,510 S2: is there's obviously no moderation on the platforms around what 422 00:20:25,540 --> 00:20:28,060 S2: what advice people are giving. So someone could just start 423 00:20:28,090 --> 00:20:29,890 S2: like whoever started this trend. Someone might have watched one 424 00:20:29,890 --> 00:20:31,780 S2: video on it, not understood it, and then made another 425 00:20:31,780 --> 00:20:34,180 S2: video and then that went viral and then etc. but 426 00:20:34,180 --> 00:20:36,639 S2: I just I think what's really and I'm really struggle 427 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,770 S2: with this is just the definitive language that we have 428 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,830 S2: that we have to use. But with hooks on TikTok 429 00:20:41,890 --> 00:20:45,129 S2: like this will help. It's not and it's not. It's 430 00:20:45,130 --> 00:20:48,370 S2: not true. But that's what hooks people in. And it's 431 00:20:48,369 --> 00:20:52,390 S2: why that type of content is going viral. And it's 432 00:20:52,390 --> 00:20:54,670 S2: why we just we don't see much about like, or 433 00:20:54,670 --> 00:20:57,609 S2: in some cases or whatever it might be because that's 434 00:20:57,609 --> 00:21:00,310 S2: not a hawk. So it's really, really hard. And I 435 00:21:00,310 --> 00:21:02,290 S2: just think it's so important to keep in mind when 436 00:21:02,290 --> 00:21:05,470 S2: you're watching this type of content, because it is very 437 00:21:05,470 --> 00:21:09,670 S2: likely that the person has, I don't know, just they've 438 00:21:09,670 --> 00:21:12,790 S2: changed the wording. So it like it is. It has 439 00:21:12,790 --> 00:21:15,340 S2: that hook, which just makes it really difficult. Now I 440 00:21:15,340 --> 00:21:17,350 S2: just want to say one positive one before we go, 441 00:21:17,380 --> 00:21:19,240 S2: because there are some good trends and I want to 442 00:21:19,270 --> 00:21:21,340 S2: I wonder if you've done this. There's this lady I 443 00:21:21,340 --> 00:21:25,389 S2: follow on TikTok and she cleans her apartment with the 444 00:21:25,390 --> 00:21:26,139 S2: timer on. 445 00:21:26,170 --> 00:21:31,750 S1: You think? You think I'm cleaning my apartment, I know. Anyway, continue. 446 00:21:32,290 --> 00:21:35,770 S2: And it I it's I actually think it's quite because 447 00:21:35,770 --> 00:21:38,410 S2: she makes it like a challenge for herself. She hates cleaning. Yeah, 448 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,479 S2: but and I mean now her whole channel is her 449 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,910 S2: cleaning her apartment, so maybe she likes it. Yeah, it's 450 00:21:42,910 --> 00:21:46,960 S2: really big too, but she puts her timer on. Yeah. 451 00:21:46,990 --> 00:21:48,750 S2: And then she'll be like, okay, I've got one hour. 452 00:21:48,750 --> 00:21:51,270 S2: Here's what I've got done. Yeah. When you don't go 453 00:21:51,270 --> 00:21:53,609 S2: on your phone and you clean efficiently, you can actually 454 00:21:53,609 --> 00:21:56,670 S2: get a lot done in an hour. But I find 455 00:21:56,670 --> 00:21:59,280 S2: it really interesting. And that's a trend that I can 456 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,500 S2: get around. I think it's a really good idea. Timed 457 00:22:01,500 --> 00:22:03,750 S2: yourself cleaning it. I haven't, but I do. I'm like, 458 00:22:03,780 --> 00:22:04,830 S2: that is a good idea. 459 00:22:04,830 --> 00:22:07,260 S1: It is a good idea. I think for me it's like, 460 00:22:07,380 --> 00:22:10,080 S1: I think gamifying cleaning is the only way I can 461 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:10,800 S1: literally do it. 462 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,690 S2: That's why I thought of you. That's why I thought, Steffie, 463 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,080 S2: it's time you start. You start timing yourself and writing 464 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:16,980 S2: out what you've got done. 465 00:22:17,010 --> 00:22:20,040 S1: Yeah, well it is. Yeah, it's. That's a great idea. 466 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,630 S1: And maybe I will try it, but no, I have 467 00:22:21,630 --> 00:22:23,310 S1: never done that. Not to this point. The only thing 468 00:22:23,310 --> 00:22:25,740 S1: I've come close to is, is the other night I 469 00:22:25,740 --> 00:22:27,480 S1: really wanted to watch a movie, and I was home 470 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,160 S1: alone and there was a lot to clean. And I 471 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,020 S1: knew that if I wanted to watch this movie, I 472 00:22:31,020 --> 00:22:33,810 S1: had to get my cleaning done within. Yeah. And it 473 00:22:33,810 --> 00:22:35,850 S1: had to get it done within an hour. Otherwise it 474 00:22:35,850 --> 00:22:37,200 S1: would have been too late to put a movie on. 475 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,149 S1: So there was a bit of a time pressure, but 476 00:22:39,150 --> 00:22:42,180 S1: I didn't necessarily time it. But I did put my 477 00:22:42,180 --> 00:22:44,219 S1: phone on Do Not Disturb, put it on charge in 478 00:22:44,220 --> 00:22:46,169 S1: the corner and didn't touch it. I actually missed a 479 00:22:46,170 --> 00:22:48,570 S1: call from your lovely husband in that time, because it 480 00:22:48,570 --> 00:22:50,190 S1: was the first time in a long time I haven't 481 00:22:50,190 --> 00:22:52,169 S1: had my phone on me and I got it done. 482 00:22:52,170 --> 00:22:53,310 S1: So yes, not. 483 00:22:53,310 --> 00:22:53,909 S2: Having for an. 484 00:22:53,910 --> 00:22:56,070 S1: Hour I did, but well, actually I think I'd done 485 00:22:56,070 --> 00:22:56,790 S1: quicker than that. 486 00:22:56,790 --> 00:22:59,040 S2: And yeah, I saw on your list was clean out 487 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:00,060 S2: the fish tank. Yeah. 488 00:23:00,060 --> 00:23:02,370 S1: Which it honestly takes five minutes, but it's just annoying. 489 00:23:02,369 --> 00:23:04,860 S2: Honestly, such a drain. I think I will never have 490 00:23:04,859 --> 00:23:10,080 S2: a fish tank for that reason. Just another task. Okay, team. 491 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,320 S2: So any trends that you see that you want us 492 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,840 S2: to talk about, please send them through. We will share 493 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,409 S2: our honest thoughts and I like this segment I like it. 494 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:27,090 S2: 1234 okay Steffi. So the other day I mean this 495 00:23:27,090 --> 00:23:32,790 S2: is a very social media memory media episode also. It's 496 00:23:32,790 --> 00:23:37,050 S2: where a lot of the opinionated content comes from, slash content. 497 00:23:37,050 --> 00:23:38,070 S2: That's where we spend a lot of our time. We 498 00:23:38,070 --> 00:23:40,170 S2: have thoughts on. So that is why. But the other 499 00:23:40,170 --> 00:23:43,290 S2: day I was on Instagram and a post from Women's 500 00:23:43,290 --> 00:23:46,639 S2: Health came up. Women's Health Australia. We'll link it in 501 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,320 S2: the show notes. We'll link the article in the show 502 00:23:48,350 --> 00:23:51,230 S2: notes that the post was about, and I was like, 503 00:23:51,230 --> 00:23:53,600 S2: oh my goodness, Steffy, we have to talk about this 504 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,870 S2: because I feel like it is something that we don't 505 00:23:56,900 --> 00:24:00,950 S2: talk about enough. But I do think if we are 506 00:24:00,950 --> 00:24:03,830 S2: in this position, it takes up a shitload of time 507 00:24:03,830 --> 00:24:07,970 S2: in our mental space slash load. So someone sent in 508 00:24:07,970 --> 00:24:10,430 S2: a question to Women's Health asking if she should be 509 00:24:10,430 --> 00:24:15,139 S2: offended that her partner doesn't orgasm with her. So the 510 00:24:15,140 --> 00:24:18,590 S2: question was, I've been seeing this guy for a few 511 00:24:18,590 --> 00:24:21,650 S2: months now and things are going well. We have fun together, 512 00:24:21,650 --> 00:24:24,530 S2: we communicate well, and I feel like we're really compatible 513 00:24:24,530 --> 00:24:27,140 S2: in so many ways. But there's something I can't stop 514 00:24:27,140 --> 00:24:30,260 S2: thinking about. So far, he hasn't had an orgasm during 515 00:24:30,260 --> 00:24:32,570 S2: sex with me. He says it has nothing to do 516 00:24:32,570 --> 00:24:34,940 S2: with me, but I can't help feeling like maybe I'm 517 00:24:34,940 --> 00:24:37,879 S2: not attractive enough or that I'm doing something wrong. I'm 518 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,210 S2: not super comfortable around sex and this makes things worse. 519 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,340 S2: It's been hard to talk about, and I don't want 520 00:24:43,369 --> 00:24:45,859 S2: to make things worse by pushing him to talk about 521 00:24:45,890 --> 00:24:49,790 S2: it more. But I don't understand what's going on. What 522 00:24:49,790 --> 00:24:55,190 S2: should I be doing? Yours. Frustrated and confused now as 523 00:24:55,190 --> 00:24:59,000 S2: I am, Akimi, who is a qualified relationship and intimacy expert, 524 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,490 S2: commented on this which we will read through. But first 525 00:25:01,490 --> 00:25:05,389 S2: of all, Steffi, what do you think of this? I feel. 526 00:25:05,390 --> 00:25:09,650 S1: I feel for this person because I think it's so 527 00:25:09,650 --> 00:25:14,000 S1: normal and natural. Unfortunately, to jump to a conclusion that 528 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,250 S1: it's about us. If something like that happens. I mean, 529 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:20,600 S1: Josh and I have had a very active sexual life 530 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,680 S1: together for almost 13 years now, and there has been 531 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:30,050 S1: times where he hasn't finished and I instantly have gone, like, 532 00:25:30,050 --> 00:25:32,300 S1: what am I doing wrong? Or like, is it something 533 00:25:32,300 --> 00:25:35,750 S1: I'm doing? You just automatically put, even though you are 534 00:25:35,750 --> 00:25:38,540 S1: comfortable with this person, even at that stage. So I 535 00:25:38,540 --> 00:25:40,340 S1: wanted to point that out because this is like they've 536 00:25:40,340 --> 00:25:43,520 S1: just freshly started dating. It sounds like, and she's not 537 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,109 S1: super confident or like comfortable around sex. So as someone 538 00:25:47,109 --> 00:25:49,090 S1: who is very comfortable with having sex with a partner, 539 00:25:49,090 --> 00:25:51,160 S1: you still kind of think like you're married. 540 00:25:51,190 --> 00:25:52,629 S2: What am I doing? Yeah. And do you think I 541 00:25:52,630 --> 00:25:55,659 S2: think the number one question which came up here. But 542 00:25:55,660 --> 00:25:58,600 S2: I feel like that I don't know if this is 543 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,149 S2: something that males feel. I'm just talking from talking to 544 00:26:01,180 --> 00:26:03,790 S2: friends and etc. and how I would feel. But I 545 00:26:03,790 --> 00:26:05,560 S2: think one of the first things we go to is like, 546 00:26:05,590 --> 00:26:08,620 S2: am I not attractive? Yeah. Like, are you not attracted 547 00:26:08,619 --> 00:26:10,030 S2: to me anymore? Yeah. 548 00:26:10,030 --> 00:26:13,060 S1: It's that and it's also just like, am I doing 549 00:26:13,060 --> 00:26:15,820 S1: a shit job? Like, am I, am I doing something different? 550 00:26:15,820 --> 00:26:17,650 S1: Am I? Like, do we need to mix it up? 551 00:26:17,650 --> 00:26:20,050 S1: Is it because we're doing the same thing like and 552 00:26:20,050 --> 00:26:23,320 S1: I think it's just normal. But I think, I think 553 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,500 S1: having the conversation about it, which is the hardest part, 554 00:26:26,530 --> 00:26:30,250 S1: is what always gets us through it, through that time. 555 00:26:30,250 --> 00:26:32,110 S1: And he'll be honest with me. He'll say, like, I'm 556 00:26:32,109 --> 00:26:34,630 S1: sorry my head is elsewhere, or like he'll explain what's 557 00:26:34,630 --> 00:26:36,400 S1: going on. And then I realize, okay, it's got nothing 558 00:26:36,430 --> 00:26:39,369 S1: to do with me. And I also have to remind 559 00:26:39,369 --> 00:26:42,550 S1: myself in those moments that there are plenty of times 560 00:26:42,550 --> 00:26:45,430 S1: that we have sex. And I'm enjoying it, but I'm 561 00:26:45,430 --> 00:26:47,080 S1: not going to finish. It's just like it's not going 562 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,030 S1: to happen that day. Whether there's something going on in 563 00:26:49,030 --> 00:26:51,640 S1: my mind or my body or whatever doesn't mean I'm 564 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,290 S1: not enjoying it, doesn't mean I don't want to be 565 00:26:53,290 --> 00:26:55,510 S1: doing it. It's just not going to happen. And that's 566 00:26:55,510 --> 00:26:57,609 S1: got nothing to do with what he's doing. He could 567 00:26:57,609 --> 00:27:00,010 S1: be doing a fantastic job and it's just not going 568 00:27:00,010 --> 00:27:02,109 S1: to happen. And I have to remind myself of those 569 00:27:02,109 --> 00:27:05,020 S1: moments in in those times because it's just it's something 570 00:27:05,020 --> 00:27:06,909 S1: that happens. But it is such a I don't know 571 00:27:06,910 --> 00:27:08,590 S1: why it's so awkward to talk about. 572 00:27:08,619 --> 00:27:10,540 S2: It's so true. And I think as well, it's like 573 00:27:10,540 --> 00:27:13,450 S2: in what you just said in this situation, I would 574 00:27:13,450 --> 00:27:17,410 S2: say 90% of the time we default to it's my fault. 575 00:27:17,410 --> 00:27:23,470 S2: So as in this situation, as the female you're feeling like, 576 00:27:23,470 --> 00:27:26,950 S2: or this person is feeling like, oh, he's not attracted 577 00:27:26,950 --> 00:27:29,560 S2: to me or we don't have that chemistry or whatever, 578 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,659 S2: am I doing the wrong thing as you just said, right. 579 00:27:31,750 --> 00:27:34,240 S2: I must be doing a shit job. Yeah, but then 580 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,660 S2: that person, the other person who isn't able to finish, 581 00:27:37,660 --> 00:27:39,729 S2: is probably thinking like, oh my goodness, I can't get 582 00:27:39,730 --> 00:27:43,090 S2: out of my head. How embarrassing. They must think that, like, 583 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,180 S2: there's it's just so interesting. I feel like there's so 584 00:27:45,180 --> 00:27:48,840 S2: much shame that we put on ourselves in that situation, 585 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,900 S2: when it's often not actually to do with us, and 586 00:27:51,900 --> 00:27:54,300 S2: it's for factors outside of us. And I think that's 587 00:27:54,330 --> 00:27:57,210 S2: because we we go for someone to blame. Right? It's like, 588 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,790 S2: and we blame ourselves. And I think that's what's really 589 00:27:59,790 --> 00:28:03,480 S2: difficult because as we can see in what the relationship 590 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,149 S2: expert came back with, she said, like some things that 591 00:28:06,150 --> 00:28:09,659 S2: could be causing it are stress, anxiety and depression. All 592 00:28:09,660 --> 00:28:13,919 S2: of those things are outside of the control of this 593 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:19,950 S2: person that sent in this question in that moment. Exactly right. Medications, again, 594 00:28:19,980 --> 00:28:23,100 S2: totally out of control. And medication is something that people 595 00:28:23,100 --> 00:28:25,140 S2: could need. And it might medication can a side effect 596 00:28:25,140 --> 00:28:28,320 S2: can be impacting your libido or your ability to finish. 597 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,240 S2: But if you need the medication like that, that is 598 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:35,460 S2: what it is, right? Issues within the relationship, physical health conditions, 599 00:28:35,460 --> 00:28:39,090 S2: trauma or negative sexual experiences. And if that's from the 600 00:28:39,090 --> 00:28:43,440 S2: past again, yeah, you you can't control that. Right. As 601 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,730 S2: the new person in the relationship. Overstimulation from other activities 602 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,550 S2: like porn or masturbating. And I know, like if I, 603 00:28:50,700 --> 00:28:54,360 S2: I sometimes accidentally put a if you put a vibrator 604 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,510 S2: on too high and you don't build up to it, 605 00:28:57,780 --> 00:29:03,420 S2: you literally my clitoris goes completely numb. It's so true. 606 00:29:03,450 --> 00:29:04,110 S2: Does that happen to you? 607 00:29:04,140 --> 00:29:05,520 S1: Yeah, yeah. No, it's so true. 608 00:29:05,550 --> 00:29:07,320 S2: If you accidentally like, you have to ease into it. 609 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,450 S2: And for some of them, I actually some of my vibrators. 610 00:29:09,450 --> 00:29:11,310 S2: I can't go to level three because it's just like 611 00:29:11,310 --> 00:29:12,480 S2: numb straight away. 612 00:29:12,510 --> 00:29:14,700 S1: Well, where my mind went to with this is like, 613 00:29:14,730 --> 00:29:16,740 S1: I know that there's been times where Josh has thought 614 00:29:16,740 --> 00:29:18,540 S1: we weren't going to have sex this day, so he 615 00:29:18,540 --> 00:29:20,940 S1: might have, like, gone and done the deed himself. And 616 00:29:20,940 --> 00:29:22,980 S1: then I'm like, suddenly coming home and wanting it. And 617 00:29:22,980 --> 00:29:24,870 S1: he's like, oh, well, I don't have anything in the 618 00:29:24,870 --> 00:29:27,780 S1: tank right now. Of course, you know, that's totally fair. 619 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,080 S2: That's exactly right. It's exactly right. It's again, like something 620 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,690 S2: that is just out of out of our control or 621 00:29:33,690 --> 00:29:37,050 S2: fear of pregnancy or STIs. Again, if you are to 622 00:29:37,050 --> 00:29:43,490 S2: get in the mood. Yeah. You can't be thinking about it. Exactly. Exactly, exactly. Right. 623 00:29:43,490 --> 00:29:46,790 S2: So I think it's just something that and this is 624 00:29:46,790 --> 00:29:49,220 S2: obviously fantastic advice, but I just really wanted to talk 625 00:29:49,220 --> 00:29:51,740 S2: about it because I just feel like we so often 626 00:29:51,740 --> 00:29:54,950 S2: blame ourselves when, as you said, you need to have 627 00:29:54,950 --> 00:29:58,040 S2: a conversation about it. And it's there's it's often like 99% 628 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,760 S2: of the time, nothing to do with you. And there 629 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,440 S2: shouldn't be any shame about it. No. 630 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:04,729 S1: And I think the other thing that we wanted to 631 00:30:04,730 --> 00:30:08,600 S1: touch on as well with this is because, interestingly, I mean, 632 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:13,370 S1: I know in my relationship, if I'm not getting to 633 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,260 S1: that point of like, maybe it's just not going to 634 00:30:15,260 --> 00:30:17,930 S1: happen for me in this time. Josh does ask if 635 00:30:17,930 --> 00:30:19,760 S1: there's anything he can do or whatever. So he also 636 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,190 S1: does kind of for a second, is it something that 637 00:30:22,190 --> 00:30:25,100 S1: I'm doing wonders that, and until I tell him like, no, no, no, 638 00:30:25,130 --> 00:30:27,500 S1: this is my mind is elsewhere or whatever, he can't 639 00:30:27,500 --> 00:30:29,810 S1: move on from it. But I know, we know and 640 00:30:29,810 --> 00:30:32,930 S1: we've spoken about the orgasm gap before on here. A 641 00:30:32,930 --> 00:30:35,810 S1: lot of women don't finish during sex, and whether it's 642 00:30:35,810 --> 00:30:39,620 S1: because their person that they're having sex with doesn't necessarily care, 643 00:30:39,650 --> 00:30:42,560 S1: or just they just haven't gone. I don't know what 644 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,840 S1: it is, but it exists. Right. So we did a 645 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,030 S1: poll on our Instagram story because we wanted to know 646 00:30:47,030 --> 00:30:49,430 S1: if there was an orgasm gap in your relationship, because 647 00:30:49,430 --> 00:30:53,390 S1: I think it's also an important part of this. You 648 00:30:53,390 --> 00:30:56,030 S1: have every right to to want that for yourself, to 649 00:30:56,060 --> 00:30:59,780 S1: want that for your partner. Um, and unfortunately for a 650 00:30:59,780 --> 00:31:02,690 S1: lot of women in heterosexual relationships, there's a huge gap. 651 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:07,700 S1: So the poll had the following options. Yes, I orgasm more. Yes, 652 00:31:07,700 --> 00:31:12,200 S1: my partner orgasm more, orgasms more. No, we orgasm equally 653 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,300 S1: and then people just wanted to see the results. And 654 00:31:14,300 --> 00:31:18,590 S1: the results were interesting. So yes, I orgasm more was 655 00:31:18,590 --> 00:31:22,760 S1: the smallest result at 5%. So knowing that a lot 656 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:27,440 S1: of our listeners are women listening. Um, that was quite interesting. Yes, 657 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:33,500 S1: my partner orgasms more 38%. No, we orgasm equally 30. 658 00:31:33,530 --> 00:31:35,060 S1: I was kind of happy to see that. That was 659 00:31:35,090 --> 00:31:38,030 S1: like pretty close to partner orgasm more. And then just 660 00:31:38,030 --> 00:31:41,680 S1: wanting to see the results was 27%. So, um, you know, 661 00:31:41,710 --> 00:31:43,840 S1: a big percentage of people were just curious, which was 662 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,820 S1: totally fair. Um, but I just wanted to bring that 663 00:31:45,820 --> 00:31:49,300 S1: up because I think it is important in this conversation 664 00:31:49,300 --> 00:31:51,490 S1: as well, because I think just going to the point earlier, 665 00:31:51,490 --> 00:31:54,250 S1: I know this whole question was about their partner not 666 00:31:54,250 --> 00:31:56,770 S1: finishing as well. But if that's you in your relationship 667 00:31:56,770 --> 00:31:58,479 S1: and you're the one that's not finishing and there is 668 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,390 S1: something that's going on, feel okay to talk about it. 669 00:32:01,420 --> 00:32:04,960 S1: Like feel comfortable to talk about it, um, because you 670 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:09,730 S1: both deserve to enjoy your time in the bedroom. Um, 671 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,890 S1: and I think if it's someone that you're going to 672 00:32:11,890 --> 00:32:14,560 S1: be regularly having sex with, then you should be able 673 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,030 S1: to have those conversations. 674 00:32:16,060 --> 00:32:19,060 S2: I agree. And I wonder too, is that because we 675 00:32:19,060 --> 00:32:22,600 S2: know the orgasm gap exists, and within that gap is 676 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:27,940 S2: women having less orgasms than men in heterosexual relationships. We 677 00:32:27,940 --> 00:32:32,740 S2: also know that a lot of women genetically can't orgasm 678 00:32:32,740 --> 00:32:36,100 S2: during sex. I am one of them. Like just from penetration. 679 00:32:36,100 --> 00:32:39,070 S2: It's not enough for me to orgasm, and that's nothing 680 00:32:39,100 --> 00:32:41,260 S2: to do with my husband or like, it's just I 681 00:32:41,260 --> 00:32:46,000 S2: just I can't. Right. So I think the other thing to, 682 00:32:46,030 --> 00:32:48,490 S2: to talk about as well is just there's a lot 683 00:32:48,490 --> 00:32:51,430 S2: of women that go without orgasms within sex, but I 684 00:32:51,430 --> 00:32:53,170 S2: think maybe it's because of movies or just what we've 685 00:32:53,170 --> 00:32:55,930 S2: grown up to, to kind of believe is that a 686 00:32:55,930 --> 00:32:58,990 S2: man like for sex to like, finish a man should 687 00:32:59,020 --> 00:33:01,600 S2: and will. And I think that also puts more pressure 688 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:02,980 S2: on this. But I think if you think about it 689 00:33:03,010 --> 00:33:06,190 S2: like there's been so many times where we've had sex 690 00:33:06,190 --> 00:33:10,360 S2: and I, I orgasm from like other things and then 691 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,370 S2: but there's times when I'm like, just just as you 692 00:33:12,370 --> 00:33:14,650 S2: said before, like, I don't think I am going to today. Yeah. 693 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,410 S2: And that's that's fine. Like that's okay. It doesn't mean 694 00:33:17,410 --> 00:33:18,760 S2: I don't love my husband. It doesn't mean we don't 695 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,180 S2: have great sexual chemistry, have great sex, are attracted to 696 00:33:22,210 --> 00:33:25,090 S2: each other. And so I think too, it's okay as 697 00:33:25,090 --> 00:33:28,300 S2: well if your partner if you're in a heterosexual relationship 698 00:33:28,300 --> 00:33:31,060 S2: and your male partner doesn't orgasm. I just think there's 699 00:33:31,060 --> 00:33:33,580 S2: so much pressure on like, you know, and it's every movie. 700 00:33:33,580 --> 00:33:35,830 S2: It's like when the guy orgasms. Well, sometimes in movies 701 00:33:35,830 --> 00:33:38,200 S2: it's both, but mainly it's just when the guy orgasms 702 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,980 S2: like that is the signal that sex is over. Yeah, 703 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,790 S2: but it doesn't. That doesn't have to be the case 704 00:33:44,790 --> 00:33:46,560 S2: every single time. And I think that puts even more 705 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,370 S2: pressure on this when it's not this person. Right. It's hard. Yeah, totally. 706 00:33:50,370 --> 00:33:52,710 S2: And on the guy as well because they probably also 707 00:33:52,710 --> 00:33:55,260 S2: feel that pressure. Well, unless I finish this, sex isn't over. 708 00:33:55,260 --> 00:33:57,240 S2: And like, what if I can't then like, is it real? 709 00:33:57,270 --> 00:34:00,480 S2: Like sex? Which obviously, of course it is. Yeah. Um, 710 00:34:00,510 --> 00:34:02,490 S2: but yeah, I just think the more we talk about it, 711 00:34:02,490 --> 00:34:07,230 S2: the better, because sex is not like the movies. Yeah, but. 712 00:34:10,350 --> 00:34:12,779 S4: What is it? Time for special share. 713 00:34:13,710 --> 00:34:17,790 S2: Shit. Steffi, what is your special share? 714 00:34:17,820 --> 00:34:21,360 S1: Okay, my special share is a. Well, it's a book 715 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,580 S1: I'm reading now, but it's part of a series. Okay, 716 00:34:23,610 --> 00:34:26,400 S1: so it's kind of the series. I read the first 717 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,430 S1: book from the series last year, and then I don't 718 00:34:29,460 --> 00:34:31,920 S1: actually know why I didn't continue it, because I do 719 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:32,729 S1: remember really good. 720 00:34:32,730 --> 00:34:34,380 S2: If you waited a year in between. 721 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,380 S1: Well, I'm on the third book now, but I enjoyed it. 722 00:34:37,380 --> 00:34:39,390 S1: But I think I must have got like, I don't know, 723 00:34:39,390 --> 00:34:40,979 S1: maybe you recommended a book. I think I just went 724 00:34:40,980 --> 00:34:42,930 S1: out of the series mode, and then I totally forgot 725 00:34:42,930 --> 00:34:46,350 S1: that I was reading the series, right? Anyway, I. But 726 00:34:46,350 --> 00:34:48,600 S1: then I remember buying the second and the third book, 727 00:34:48,630 --> 00:34:50,640 S1: and so it's been sitting on my shelf and I 728 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,610 S1: finally got through acotar, as everyone knows. Well, not everyone, but. 729 00:34:53,969 --> 00:34:54,779 S2: If you listen to the. 730 00:34:54,780 --> 00:34:58,080 S1: Podcast a lot about it. Um, and so I was 731 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,260 S1: very hesitant to get back into a series, if I'm honest. 732 00:35:01,260 --> 00:35:03,450 S1: But at the same time, I was like, no, I 733 00:35:03,450 --> 00:35:06,180 S1: really remember liking it. So maybe this will be different. 734 00:35:06,180 --> 00:35:09,030 S1: And it's been different and I'm so happy about it. Um, 735 00:35:09,030 --> 00:35:12,480 S1: so it's the Magnolia Parks universe is what people call 736 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,180 S1: the series. The first book is Magnolia Parks, the second 737 00:35:15,180 --> 00:35:18,060 S1: book is Daisy hates, and then the one that I'm 738 00:35:18,060 --> 00:35:22,200 S1: reading currently, number three is Magnolia Parks The Long Way Home, 739 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,719 S1: and there's another two to read. So one came out 740 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,969 S1: this year. There was originally four in the series, and 741 00:35:26,969 --> 00:35:29,609 S1: now there's five. Does that excite you? That excites me. Okay, amazing. 742 00:35:29,610 --> 00:35:32,790 S1: I'm already on page. I started reading the other book yesterday, 743 00:35:32,790 --> 00:35:34,650 S1: and it wasn't like a day where I just sat 744 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,299 S1: down and read like there was other stuff I was doing, 745 00:35:36,300 --> 00:35:38,489 S1: and I'm already on page like 150. So like, I'm 746 00:35:38,489 --> 00:35:42,350 S1: really into this book. Um, and basically, like Daisy hates 747 00:35:42,350 --> 00:35:46,130 S1: and Magnolia Park. So Daisy hates is like part of 748 00:35:46,130 --> 00:35:50,690 S1: a gang family. Her and her brother lost their parents. Um, 749 00:35:50,690 --> 00:35:53,750 S1: I think his dad was a part of, like, gang violence, etc.. 750 00:35:53,750 --> 00:35:56,960 S1: And but they're very, very wealthy. But they're like gang 751 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,590 S1: lords kind of family. And she she's just such a 752 00:36:00,590 --> 00:36:03,380 S1: likable character. No no no no no. And it's based 753 00:36:03,380 --> 00:36:07,730 S1: in London. Yeah. And then Magnolia Parks is like the 754 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,520 S1: it girl of London. Like she's in all the papers. 755 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,520 S1: She's invited to all the parties, all the guys like her, 756 00:36:13,550 --> 00:36:16,550 S1: like that kind of thing. And they're just they're both 757 00:36:16,550 --> 00:36:20,210 S1: such interesting characters, different but really interesting. And their love 758 00:36:20,210 --> 00:36:23,000 S1: interests and like, history and stuff comes into the story 759 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,719 S1: so much, and you just become obsessed with their partners 760 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,180 S1: and like, you're wanting it, you're wanting them to work 761 00:36:29,180 --> 00:36:31,520 S1: it out. I don't know how to explain it. Um, 762 00:36:31,550 --> 00:36:34,250 S1: but there's just a lot of drama and it's a 763 00:36:34,250 --> 00:36:36,230 S1: bit over the top because of, like, who they are 764 00:36:36,230 --> 00:36:39,529 S1: and everything, but I really love it. I really it's 765 00:36:39,530 --> 00:36:43,009 S1: kind of like Gossip Girl speak like they're from very 766 00:36:43,010 --> 00:36:48,410 S1: wealthy families and stuff, but not necessarily, like just had 767 00:36:48,410 --> 00:36:50,690 S1: a wealthy family. Well, Magnolia Parks, I think is a 768 00:36:50,690 --> 00:36:52,310 S1: bit of a like it girl from a wealthy family. 769 00:36:52,310 --> 00:36:54,440 S1: But Daisy, it's like the gang lord stuff. So it's 770 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:58,009 S1: a little bit like rougher background, but they're both very like, 771 00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,660 S1: I don't know, I think I just, I think you'd 772 00:36:59,660 --> 00:37:00,110 S1: like it. 773 00:37:00,110 --> 00:37:02,570 S2: I'm excited because, yeah, I haven't gone into a series 774 00:37:02,570 --> 00:37:03,560 S2: for a very long time. 775 00:37:03,590 --> 00:37:06,740 S1: Oh, good. Well, yes, you can borrow my books and, um. Yeah, 776 00:37:06,739 --> 00:37:08,180 S1: it's just one of those ones I can't put down. 777 00:37:08,180 --> 00:37:10,520 S1: And I'm. I'm really excited to just, like, keep reading it. 778 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,410 S1: I'm so excited that there's another two books ahead of me. 779 00:37:12,410 --> 00:37:12,950 S1: I love. 780 00:37:12,950 --> 00:37:15,350 S2: It. Thank you. Steffi, what about you? Okay, so mine 781 00:37:15,350 --> 00:37:19,310 S2: is Dan Kennedy, our amazing master trainer on kick has 782 00:37:19,310 --> 00:37:24,290 S2: his own brand called unify of some products. And I 783 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:28,219 S2: before New York he gave me the hydrate product. I 784 00:37:28,219 --> 00:37:31,009 S2: love electrolyte or hydrate. 785 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,570 S1: Once you get into things like that it's like hard 786 00:37:32,570 --> 00:37:33,890 S1: to drink water by itself. Yeah. 787 00:37:34,010 --> 00:37:36,859 S2: I'm like, why doesn't it taste like watermelon? Anyway, he 788 00:37:36,860 --> 00:37:40,690 S2: has a watermelon flavor of the hydrate powder that you 789 00:37:40,690 --> 00:37:43,000 S2: put in your drink to help. Essentially, to help you 790 00:37:43,030 --> 00:37:46,509 S2: stay hydrated. It's obviously got a lot of other electrolytes 791 00:37:46,510 --> 00:37:50,890 S2: and minerals in there for you, but it is so delicious. 792 00:37:51,250 --> 00:37:52,960 S2: I can't speak, it is so delicious. It's such a 793 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,450 S2: good product. And I just wanted to give Danny a 794 00:37:55,450 --> 00:37:57,790 S2: shout out. Yeah. Nice. Love it. So if you like, 795 00:37:58,030 --> 00:38:03,040 S2: if you are really into hydrate not hydrolyte hydrate products, 796 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,739 S2: which is like a very big growing category at the moment. 797 00:38:05,739 --> 00:38:10,090 S2: That tastes yummy. Definitely try unify watermelon. Love it. 798 00:38:10,390 --> 00:38:13,089 S1: Well that's it from us today guys, but we will 799 00:38:13,090 --> 00:38:16,540 S1: be back in your ears on Wednesday with an episode 800 00:38:16,540 --> 00:38:18,549 S1: that I think you're going to want to tune into. 801 00:38:18,580 --> 00:38:21,370 S1: We have opened up in the past about both of 802 00:38:21,370 --> 00:38:25,689 S1: our experiences with PMS, but we've also heard you guys 803 00:38:25,690 --> 00:38:28,060 S1: talking in the community, and you've also sent in DMs 804 00:38:28,060 --> 00:38:31,150 S1: in the past about your experience and wanting to know 805 00:38:31,150 --> 00:38:35,140 S1: the things like the difference between PMS, PMDD, and just 806 00:38:35,140 --> 00:38:37,600 S1: kind of what to expect when, why? What's the science 807 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:38,170 S1: behind it all? 808 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,210 S2: Your body. Right. Like, why do I feel like this? 809 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:40,510 S2: And why. 810 00:38:40,510 --> 00:38:43,000 S1: Don't we. It annoys me. Is that, like, why don't 811 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,310 S1: we already know a lot of this stuff? Like. But 812 00:38:45,340 --> 00:38:48,160 S1: it's just it is good to have a reminder because unfortunately, 813 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,020 S1: we didn't grow up with a lot of this information. 814 00:38:50,020 --> 00:38:53,620 S1: So we had the incredible Hannah Dower on and she 815 00:38:53,620 --> 00:38:56,259 S1: taught us so much. So I hope you guys enjoy 816 00:38:56,260 --> 00:38:58,120 S1: that as much as we do. As always, we would 817 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,060 S1: love for you to get involved with the Kick Pod 818 00:39:01,060 --> 00:39:04,390 S1: episode and continue our conversation in our Facebook group also. 819 00:39:04,420 --> 00:39:07,120 S1: We'd love your support on our Instagram at Kick Pod. 820 00:39:07,150 --> 00:39:08,739 S1: Come and follow us over there! That's where you can 821 00:39:08,739 --> 00:39:12,219 S1: send in your DMs and get involved with segments, but 822 00:39:12,219 --> 00:39:16,000 S1: we will be in your ears Wednesday by wait. 823 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,000 S2: We're actually not finished just yet. We are going to 824 00:39:19,030 --> 00:39:21,610 S2: take a guess and say that if you listened all 825 00:39:21,610 --> 00:39:24,100 S2: the way to the end of this episode, you might 826 00:39:24,100 --> 00:39:26,319 S2: like Kick pod or at least a little bit. 827 00:39:26,469 --> 00:39:29,290 S1: And if you don't want to wait until the next episode, 828 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,560 S1: then you're in luck, because we have over 300 episodes 829 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,600 S1: that you can go back and listen to. 830 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,170 S2: On Mondays, we catch each other up on our lives. 831 00:39:37,170 --> 00:39:40,230 S1: And every second Wednesday we publish kiekeboe episodes about all 832 00:39:40,260 --> 00:39:41,310 S1: things motherhood. 833 00:39:41,310 --> 00:39:44,190 S2: And then every other Wednesday, we speak with people who 834 00:39:44,190 --> 00:39:47,040 S2: we love and we think you'll love too. Like Zara 835 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,520 S2: and Michelle from the shameless podcast. What if at that point, 836 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,830 S2: someone came and told you in four years you were 837 00:39:52,830 --> 00:39:56,280 S2: going to have a podcast with 50 million downloads? 838 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,580 S3: I would tell you it's unfathomable. That's ridiculous. Because if 839 00:39:59,580 --> 00:40:01,950 S3: I had have had this conversation with myself ten years 840 00:40:01,950 --> 00:40:03,719 S3: ago to be like, these are all the things you'd get, 841 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,730 S3: and these are the downsides, but this is still what 842 00:40:05,730 --> 00:40:08,129 S3: it looks like. I take that any day of the week. 843 00:40:08,130 --> 00:40:11,820 S1: And the co-host of the Imperfect Podcast, Hugh Van Kahlenberg. 844 00:40:11,940 --> 00:40:14,490 S5: Our Life is a series of chapters and seasons, and 845 00:40:14,489 --> 00:40:16,140 S5: what I love about that is every chapter comes to 846 00:40:16,140 --> 00:40:18,630 S5: an end. And I'm not saying every single person just 847 00:40:18,630 --> 00:40:20,820 S5: embraced the hardship that you're going through. But for a 848 00:40:20,820 --> 00:40:22,620 S5: lot of us, the biggest issue we have right now 849 00:40:22,620 --> 00:40:25,260 S5: is we're spending so much energy wishing we were in 850 00:40:25,260 --> 00:40:28,319 S5: a different stage when we should just sit back and go. 851 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,780 S5: There are good parts to this that I will miss eventually. 852 00:40:31,020 --> 00:40:33,690 S2: So to those names and more in whatever app you're 853 00:40:33,690 --> 00:40:35,220 S2: listening to this episode in.