WEBVTT - Hair Extensions (and Hotel Room Raccoons)

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<v S1>A listener production.

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<v S2>Only do what we wanna know. Ish. Where do you

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<v S2>wanna go? Where do you wanna go?

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<v S3>Hi, everyone.

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<v S4>Hey, everyone. Bec and Jess here. Welcome to vanish. Welcome.

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<v S4>And we are doing this amazing podcast talking about everything vain.

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<v S4>Because at the end of the day, we want to

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<v S4>look and feel great. So we're a bit vain ish.

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<v S3>Yeah, not completely vain, a little vain, and. Yeah. And

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<v S3>I feel like there's such a stigma about wanting to hide.

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<v S3>That you actually want to look and feel good. We're

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<v S3>made to feel like it's really frowned upon, but everyone

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<v S3>does it. Whether you color your hair, whether you shave

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<v S3>your legs, whether you pluck out your grays, you put

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<v S3>makeup on, it's all to look and feel better. So

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<v S3>let's just embrace it because it is what it is.

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<v S3>Let's live in the real world and not this world

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<v S3>where we have to hide who we actually are and say,

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<v S3>oh yeah, no, I'm completely comfortable with.

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<v S4>How I look and all that. Because at the end

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<v S4>of the day, we didn't wake up like this.

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<v S3>We did not wake up like this.

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<v S4>We didn't. And most people don't.

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<v S3>I didn't wake up smelling like this because I am

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<v S3>wearing your singlet.

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<v S4>Yes you are.

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<v S3>And it smells like your house. So when I walk

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<v S3>into your house, there's this specific smell. And it is

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<v S3>your washing detergent.

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<v S4>Oh, yes. Because you have a weird thing about washing detergent.

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<v S3>No, but your whole house smells like washing detergent because

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<v S3>you're a crazy laundry lady.

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<v S4>I am, and I always put my clothes on the

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<v S4>line inside and not out, because I don't want the

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<v S4>smell of air to infiltrate into my clothes.

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<v S3>What's your aversion with the smell of air, anyway? And sorry,

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<v S3>what is the smell of air?

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<v S4>It just smells like nothing. The big thing for me

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<v S4>is like in your hair. Your hair just smells like

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<v S4>hair and there's just no fragrance in it like that

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<v S4>just makes me. I get the biggest ick from it. Yeah.

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<v S4>And it really sets the tone of my day. Like,

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<v S4>if someone has stinky hair, I'm done.

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<v S3>Or stinky breath. You've come to me before and you're

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<v S3>in a foul mood. And I said, what, babe? You

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<v S3>didn't get your coffee. You're like, no, such and such

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<v S3>came in and breathed on me. They had bad breath

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<v S3>and it's triggered me.

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<v S4>Triggered me, and I'm done. Like, I almost need to

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<v S4>go back to bed, have a nap and reset and

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<v S4>wake up. So I don't know if it's because diagnosed

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<v S4>with ADHD, your senses are in hearing and smell is

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<v S4>a huge thing. Yeah, so it really sets my tone

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<v S4>of my day. So smells is just my. Yeah.

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<v S3>Do you know what helps with bad breath in our family?

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<v S3>One of my kids went and for medical reasons he

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<v S3>had he had the worst breath.

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<v S4>Right.

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<v S3>As soon as he came out. You know, like that

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<v S3>little newborn vanilla breath. This kid didn't have it right.

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<v S3>It was foul from the beginning. He ended up getting

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<v S3>his tonsils taken out and now his breath. He could

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<v S3>breathe on me all day. It is so good. It's sweet.

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<v S3>Like ice cream.

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<v S4>Oh, I love that. Yeah. I'm gonna go smell his breath.

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<v S3>Yeah.

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<v S4>Do you.

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<v S3>Know what? It's me.

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<v S4>What?

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<v S3>That dirty, oily hair smell.

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<v S4>So I feel like that smells a bit airy.

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<v S3>No, it smells oily.

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<v S4>Oh, really?

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<v S3>Yeah. And salty. Oh, this is another one.

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<v S4>Oh, my God, what else is there?

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<v S3>That or I would say, do you know what? This

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<v S3>is random. I love the smell of portrait of a lady.

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<v S3>You know that fragrance? It's really bougie. It's bloody expensive.

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<v S3>You get it from Mecca. And whenever anyone walks past

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<v S3>me with this smell, I love it. But when I

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<v S3>wear it on myself, it gives me a headache and

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<v S3>it makes me nauseous. Really? I have to have a

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<v S3>shower and scrub it off. Really? Yeah.

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<v S4>But you like it on somebody else.

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<v S3>But on everyone else. Have you ever had that with

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<v S3>a fragrance where it smells good on everyone, and then

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<v S3>you put it on and it's rank?

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<v S4>Yeah.

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<v S3>Yep. What are your other ex and aversions. And they

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<v S3>don't have to be smells.

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<v S4>I think a big ick for me is and it

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<v S4>is back to a smell. Thing is, when the kids

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<v S4>get in the car after a day at school, there's

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<v S4>like this stale fart that's in their clothes. I don't know.

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<v S4>And you go into the classrooms and they smell this.

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<v S3>It's a stench, but it's a feeling. Yeah, it's warm

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<v S3>and moist. Do you know what it is?

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<v S4>Stale farts. No.

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<v S3>It's puppies. They smell like puppies.

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<v S4>Yes. Oh!

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<v S3>Ah!

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<v S4>So then I get my kids in the car. The

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<v S4>windows are down. I'm so triggered by it. Then I

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<v S4>get inside the house and I make them take all

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<v S4>their uniform off before they sit on the couch. It's

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<v S4>all washed, so I'm constantly doing washing because my kids

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<v S4>are literally wearing the school uniform. One day I will

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<v S4>not have them wearing it in the second day.

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<v S3>No, but your kids wouldn't do that anyway. Your son

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<v S3>is the cleanest, most incredible little hygienic kid I've ever met.

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<v S3>I wish my kids were more like him. He walks

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<v S3>in from school and he goes straight to the shower.

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<v S4>Straight to the shower. He's going to make his wife

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<v S4>so happy. I've trained him well, so well. So going

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<v S4>about like my thing of ex of smell and everything.

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<v S4>And mine is a big thing, is hair.

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<v S3>Yeah, hair is icky. It's icky. You know, when you're

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<v S3>walking behind someone and they haven't washed their hair and

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<v S3>it's all separated? Oh.

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<v S4>Gross, gross gross gross. I have to say, the funniest

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<v S4>thing I've ever experienced with you was when we were

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<v S4>in New York, um, not long ago. And I walked

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<v S4>into the apartment and I'm like, we're very clean humans,

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<v S4>but we are together when we travel. The biggest trash bags.

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<v S3>Without kids.

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<v S4>Without kids. Like we are messier than our children.

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<v S3>Freedom. Yes. And we can get away with it because

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<v S3>the kids aren't there going, oh my God, mom, look

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<v S3>how messy you're being. Because there's no one judging us.

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<v S4>No one's judging us.

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<v S3>Go crazy. Yeah, it's so liberating.

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<v S4>So liberating just to be kids again and just trash

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<v S4>a room. So. Yeah. So we were getting ready. We

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<v S4>went out. We went out all night or whatever. We

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<v S4>came home around, I reckon 11:00 at night. We went

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<v S4>to bed. Then you had to get up for a

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<v S4>photo shoot. Yeah, and I got up mad, rushed running

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<v S4>downstairs to get to breakfast in time because we were

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<v S4>a bit jet lagged. And then I'd go back up

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<v S4>to get ready, and I opened up the door and

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<v S4>there was just these piles of animals in and amongst

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<v S4>all our luggage, and I opened up the door and

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<v S4>absolutely screamed. I think the entire hotel could hear me. Yeah.

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<v S4>I was like, oh my God. And I was like,

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<v S4>oh my God, I've got to go down to the reception.

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<v S4>There's there's like.

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<v S3>A raccoon or a squirrel or something.

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<v S4>I literally thought raccoons had come into the apartment and

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<v S4>had trashed the apartment and.

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<v S3>It had.

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<v S4>Died.

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<v S3>We are the raccoons.

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<v S4>Yeah, they had died in with all our clothes. And

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<v S4>I found, like, four raccoons in our clothes. So I

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<v S4>shut the door and I, like, regrouped. And then I

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<v S4>opened up the door again to have, like, a little

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<v S4>bit of a peek, and I looked and I was like, oh,

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<v S4>my God, no, they're just begs fucking hair extensions. They

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<v S4>were flung. I don't know, you must have walked in

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<v S4>the room and just went, fuck this. And you've, like,

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<v S4>pulled him out.

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<v S3>Where have we been the night before? I reckon we

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<v S3>got in at 5 a.m.. I reckon we were very

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<v S3>a little bit peddled.

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<v S4>I mean, yeah, it must have been.

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<v S3>Get this one.

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<v S4>Out, get.

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<v S3>This one out.

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<v S4>And I didn't have that because I have a weft.

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<v S3>Yes.

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<v S4>And you at the point didn't have a wig.

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<v S3>I had clippings.

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<v S4>You had clippings? Yeah. Every time I travelled with you. Yeah,

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<v S4>every single time. And we always stay in the same room.

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<v S4>There is always these dead animals, like, all over the room.

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<v S4>And now I've realised they're just hair extensions.

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<v S3>And you know what? I'm not gonna lie. Sometimes I

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<v S3>scare myself with them. Oh, okay.

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<v S4>Fucking scary.

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<v S3>Yeah.

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<v S4>And you don't leave him in a nice.

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<v S3>My husband calls it my animal. You've got your animal in.

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<v S4>Yeah. Literally, your fucking animals were everywhere. Yeah. So, speaking

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<v S4>of hair extensions, we have got our amazing hairdresser, the Queen,

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<v S4>the Queen Mary over who is going to come in

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<v S4>today and talk about hair extensions. What are the best?

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<v S3>How to do it, do it, what they cost. There's

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<v S3>so many different types, it's actually quite overwhelming. It is

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<v S3>what the maintenance is like. And Marie is such a gun.

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<v S3>So Marie's been doing my hair since I moved to

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<v S3>Melbourne in 2008.

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<v S4>Wow.

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<v S3>Yeah. So a very, very long time. Going on 17

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<v S3>years of so many awesome hair memories together. I know

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<v S3>she's been doing your hair for a long time as well. Yeah,

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<v S3>she is a hairstylist, hair colorist to so many people.

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<v S3>She looks after all the big celebs that she can

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<v S3>tell us about. Hopefully share some cool stories with us.

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<v S3>And yeah, yeah, part of I guess it's a really

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<v S3>important part of my job is how I look. And

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<v S3>Marie's been such a big part of that and we've gosh,

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<v S3>we've travelled around the world together and yeah, can't wait

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<v S3>to have her on today to discuss all things hair extensions.

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<v S2>Vain ish.

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<v S3>Marie. Over. Oh, hi. We're like family, babe.

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<v S5>We are.

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<v S3>How long have you been doing my hair for? I

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<v S3>thought it was, like, 17 years.

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<v S5>Yeah, a long time. 17 years since your first jitendra's.

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<v S3>That's a lot of Brownlow Medals. That's a lot of Logies.

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<v S3>That's a lot of shoots.

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<v S5>It's a lot of colours to.

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<v S3>A lot of colours. We did go ash blonde once.

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<v S3>I was like, Marie going blonde. I want cool blonde.

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<v S3>She's like, no, you've got really warm eyes. You can't

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<v S3>go cool blonde. You'll look really bad. I said, no,

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<v S3>you're giving me cool blonde. So I'm very obedient memory.

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<v S3>She wouldn't do this now. She'd be like, fuck off,

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<v S3>I'm not doing this to you. Okay then. Becky. Becky.

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<v S3>With the not so good hair. Yeah, yeah. Made me

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<v S3>ash blonde. And I was like, nah, I get it.

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<v S4>How long did it last?

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<v S3>I looked, I looked like a zombie.

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<v S5>She came back in. She's like, you need to color

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<v S5>my hair back. And I was like, I was waiting

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<v S5>for it.

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<v S4>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v S3>Told you so back. So now I just listened to her.

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<v S3>She's the queen.

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<v S4>She is. She's never done a colour wrong on me.

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<v S5>Oh.

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<v S4>The best of the best.

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<v S3>The best. So so good. So, Marie. Over. Tell us,

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<v S3>how long have you been a hairstylist? To the stars? Colorist?

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<v S3>Just hair guru.

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<v S5>I've been hairdressing for about 26 years now. Yeah, it's

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<v S5>been a long time.

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<v S3>Salon?

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<v S5>Yeah. Own salon for 11 of those years. I think

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<v S5>the thing behind it, and to keep doing it is

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<v S5>to really love what you do. And I think you

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<v S5>guys both know that I still really do love what

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<v S5>I do. So that's the main thing.

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<v S3>Yeah, I'm very passionate. Tell us about all the different

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<v S3>people celebs people love to to know who who's in

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<v S3>your black book.

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<v S5>Well, obviously you two. No we're not. No, we're just

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<v S5>so great.

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<v S3>I'm talking like proper celebs.

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<v S5>I've been lucky enough to do some really amazing celebs. So,

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<v S5>like Gigi Hadid is probably every time she comes to Australia.

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<v S5>I do her hair and we still talk all the time.

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<v S5>Like I'll speak to her on Instagram and stuff, and

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<v S5>she's just the most beautiful celeb that I've had to

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<v S5>work with. Lily Allen was one of them. Um, Rita Ora,

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<v S5>Dua Lipa. Helena Christensen was an amazing one as well.

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<v S5>Like obviously growing up looking at supermodels and then to

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<v S5>be able to do a supermodels hair. Yeah, that was

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<v S5>pretty amazing. And she also told me that I gave

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<v S5>her the best and quickest blow I've ever had. And

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<v S5>I was like, that's pretty rich coming from you. I

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<v S5>was like, I'm gonna hang up the boots now.

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<v S3>You are known for your blowies, babe, right? She does

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<v S3>a good blowie.

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<v S4>She does a good.

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<v S3>Blowie in the biz.

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<v S4>And you know.

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<v S3>What.

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<v S4>A good you know the up do the big pony.

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<v S3>Yeah, it's called the pony.

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<v S4>The pony? Oh, my God, they are. I'm. I'm going

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<v S4>to get one one day. I haven't done it yet.

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<v S3>Haven't you done the pony?

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<v S4>I haven't done a pony.

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<v S3>Okay. But I'm going I'm going to paint the picture

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<v S3>of an Uber pony. Yeah. So it's a voluminous pony

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<v S3>which has a kick like an s-bend. So if you're

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<v S3>looking at it from the side, it's not a pony.

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<v S3>It's like an S or like a question mark. Oh

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<v S3>my God. Wow, that's such a good explanation.

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<v S5>I'm impressed. I love that question mark, I love that.

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<v S3>So Marie, when I moved to Melbourne from Perth I

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<v S3>was really shocked as this naive Perth girl so had

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<v S3>come in at Chris. My husband was playing for the

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<v S3>AFL team. Carlton and I had all of the Carlton

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<v S3>wives and girlfriends over for when the boys were playing interstate.

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<v S3>They all came over, we had dinner, we went out

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<v S3>to a bar afterwards, and we were all sitting around

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<v S3>having a few drinks, and I was shocked. Every single

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<v S3>one of them had hair extensions in and it was like,

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<v S3>what is going on with these Melbourne chicks and their

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<v S3>hair extensions? No one wore hair extensions in Perth.

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<v S4>And no one wore them in Queensland.

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<v S3>Yeah, but these Melbourne girls, they were all clip ins.

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<v S3>They looked incredible. They all had amazing hair, and it's

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<v S3>almost like this little hair subculture that had been going

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<v S3>on here. I don't know if Sydney's the same, if

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<v S3>Adelaide's the same, but back then it was a real

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<v S3>Melbourne thing. Everyone had their clip ins. So I was like,

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<v S3>I'm going to get me some clippings. And I went somewhere.

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<v S3>I think it was like Chapel Street, where they used

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<v S3>to do them and popped Pop them in, and I

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<v S3>wore them to a party, and I was standing too

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<v S3>close to a little tealight candle, and the whole extension

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<v S3>caught on fire. No way. Yes. And I was like,

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<v S3>what is that smell? And someone came over and said, Beck,

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<v S3>you're on fire. I was a hair extension. Lucky it

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<v S3>was a clipping. I just ripped it out.

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<v S4>But also lucky if it was real hair, because if

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<v S4>it was not real hair, your whole you would have

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<v S4>blown up in flames.

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<v S3>Because it did have that burnt hair smell. So like, legit,

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<v S3>it was real hair. Yeah, but imagine if that had

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<v S3>been like a sewn in weft or something. It would

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<v S3>have been trouble. Are they in trouble? Anyway, ever since then,

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<v S3>I've been intrigued by hair extensions, and I've noticed that

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<v S3>throughout Australia. Now, like, everyone wears hair extensions, right?

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<v S5>Yeah, I just think it's a part of it's a

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<v S5>it's a part of the routine.

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<v S3>What percentage of your clients wear hair extensions? Not just

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<v S3>the celebs, everyone.

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<v S5>I think there's a good 60%. Wow. Yeah. So clippings

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<v S5>are obviously more, um, easy to wear because you can

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<v S5>pop them in and take them out. Um, wefts are

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<v S5>easy in terms of if you don't know how to

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<v S5>put them in, they're just in there all the time.

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<v S3>Sewn in.

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<v S5>Attached. Some people some people find that really hard to,

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<v S5>you know, um, pop them in. So some people have

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<v S5>had stuff happen to their hair, whether it's been broken

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<v S5>or they've cut it off and they've realized that they

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<v S5>don't want that length anymore. So that's when you have

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<v S5>the more permanent ones. But like, even if you've got

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<v S5>and I say people bring in photos and they say,

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<v S5>this is what I want. It started with brides essentially. Um,

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<v S5>because I think as evolution has happened, there's a lot

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<v S5>more red carpet events in Melbourne. Back when I started hairdressing,

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<v S5>there wasn't as many red carpet events or I just

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<v S5>wasn't doing as many of those clients. Um, so it

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<v S5>started with brides and they would come to me and

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<v S5>they would show me images and I'd be like, that's great,

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<v S5>but you have four hairs on your head like, yeah,

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<v S5>I'm going to need to put extensions in.

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<v S3>Packet.

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<v S5>In.

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<v S3>Your hair for.

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<v S5>That look. So because and I think realistically, like if

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<v S5>you look at, um, any red carpet event like Golden

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<v S5>Globes or, you know, like the Emmys or the Grammys.

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<v S5>Like whatever it is, most people have extra hair in

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<v S5>their hair to get the looks that they want. So

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<v S5>and I think a lot of people were naive to that.

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<v S5>And now a lot of people are realizing it.

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<v S3>Yeah. Social media also helps that. And and people are

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<v S3>very honest about it.

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<v S5>So we started making them. So we started making made

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<v S5>to order clippings for I mean I countless.

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<v S3>Oh I've got, I've got a whole suitcase of different animals.

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<v S5>Every, every.

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<v S4>Event.

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<v S5>That could be like, yeah, I've lost them. Can you

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<v S5>make me another pair?

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<v S3>And my hair would be a slightly different color. And

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<v S3>Marie's such a perfectionist. She's like, no, you're more brunette now,

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<v S3>so you need a brunette one. I'm like, oh, just

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<v S3>use this old one.

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<v S4>Yeah, she needs one for summer.

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<v S3>This old.

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<v S4>Thing. Yeah.

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<v S3>No, no, that's the wrong color. So Marie will make

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<v S3>me a fresh one. Or then if I go slightly lighter. No, no,

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<v S3>they're too dark. And she'll make me a blonde one.

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<v S3>She's so sweet. She'll be there with her staff. And

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<v S3>they're putting the matching foils in the extension. So it's like.

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<v S4>Perfect.

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<v S3>And seamless.

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<v S5>But it has to be, though. The other thing too is,

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<v S5>is that like colors is an important thing. Like, we've

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<v S5>all seen people walk down the street with hair extensions

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<v S5>that look really obvious, like. And that is my biggest yes,

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<v S5>that's my biggest nightmare. So I think clippings is easy

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<v S5>for everyone to be able to wear. I mean, I've

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<v S5>got them in today and and I've got heaps of hair.

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<v S5>But sometimes like for me where I color my hair

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<v S5>the most like around the front of my face, that's the,

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<v S5>that's the bit that you kind of lose the most hair.

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<v S5>So I just fill it up a little bit with

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<v S5>some side fillers at the side. So I've filled up

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<v S5>that side bit like a lot of my clients have

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<v S5>got heaps of hair. I still recommend them to wear

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<v S5>hair extensions, whether it's to fill up the front or

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<v S5>just to give them that bit more volume or so.

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<v S3>With the clipping, you've got one long one that's about what,

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<v S3>20 20cm? It goes around the base and then you

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<v S3>do little side fillers.

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<v S5>Yep. You can or you can like for me, I've

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<v S5>got heaps of hair at the back. I don't need that.

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<v S5>My hair's at the length that I want it. I

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<v S5>literally just put the side ones in.

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<v S3>So you say 60% of your clients at your salon

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<v S3>have extensions and out of your celebrity clients. Is it

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<v S3>closer to 100%?

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<v S4>Yeah. There you go.

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<v S3>It's so transformative. I remember when I put my first

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<v S3>clip in hair extension in it was Becky.

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<v S4>With the good hair.

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<v S3>Becky with the good hair.

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<v S5>But it also also gives us as a hairdresser. It

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<v S5>gives you the flexibility to create anything.

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<v S3>So with our weft it obviously grows out as our

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<v S3>hair grows. So every is it 6 to 8 weeks.

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<v S3>It needs to be lifted because a lot of people,

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<v S3>they want hair extensions. They don't know where to begin.

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<v S3>They're worried about ongoing maintenance and cost. So clippings are

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<v S3>probably the most economical.

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<v S5>Clippings are the most economical. They last the longest, you

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<v S5>pop them in and you take them out. Whenever you

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<v S5>have an event and they start from like the side

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<v S5>fillers start from $149. So it's quite I mean, obviously

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<v S5>if you wanted a bigger piece like it grows from there,

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<v S5>but you can start having extensions in your hair from $149. Okay.

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<v S5>It's the hair that costs the most.

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<v S3>Okay. And where's the hair come from?

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<v S5>All different places. Depending. Like if you want pure Russian hair.

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<v S3>Daria.

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<v S5>Dasha.

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<v S3>Yeah, that's.

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<v S5>That's a lot more expensive. Yeah, but most of the

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<v S5>wefts that you get online or that you would put

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<v S5>into your hair is a mix. So it's a mix

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<v S5>of Russian and it's got like a couple of different

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<v S5>things in there, a bit of Indian hair, like it's

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<v S5>all mixed in together.

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<v S4>With amazing hair. The hair extensions you use, they're incredible

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<v S4>because that's you've created your own and done your own

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<v S4>collab with them.

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<v S5>Yes.

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<v S4>So tell us about it. Tell us about that.

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<v S5>So when it came to clipping extensions, I found that

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<v S5>I'd always have to sew them because I didn't like

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<v S5>the colours or I didn't like, um, the way that

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<v S5>they were sewn. So I was like, they were like, well,

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<v S5>let's do a collab. Let's create a brand together. So

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<v S5>I've designed them to how I like them and so

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<v S5>they're seamless. So basically the thing with the clip in

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<v S5>extensions is that the colours that I've designed, being a

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<v S5>colorist as well, I know how I want them to be.

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<v S5>So basically there's six different, um, tones and they match

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<v S5>everyone's hair. So it doesn't matter who it is. I've

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<v S5>never found a set of hair that it doesn't match.

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<v S5>That's amazing. So you don't have to color them. And

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<v S5>they're easy to just grab off the shelf and to

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<v S5>bring them to your hairdresser. And like I said, they

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<v S5>suit everyone. There's two different colors that would suit me.

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<v S5>There's two different colors that you could put into your hair.

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<v S5>Same as you, Bec. Yeah. So depending like I've got

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<v S5>darker ones and lighter ones, if I feel like having

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<v S5>a bit of a pop of something, they still blend.

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<v S3>And they blend well.

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<v S5>And also to their flatter, um, I didn't like sometimes

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<v S5>they would stick out and.

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<v S3>So that you can disguise them. I don't like seeing

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<v S3>hair extensions. And sometimes when I wear my if I

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<v S3>wear a pony when I'm exercising, I can kind of

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<v S3>see the bottom. And I try and I try and

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<v S3>disguise it. And I remember I was on holidays with

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<v S3>this little girl. She was ten and she came up

0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:42.199
<v S3>to me. She's like, um, excuse me, I can see

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<v S3>your hair extension.

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<v S4>It wasn't scarlet, was it?

0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:48.280
<v S3>Shame. I felt like, oh yeah, I just rushed when

0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:50.200
<v S3>I put my pony up today and I didn't cover

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<v S3>it properly. So I do love the idea of something

0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:55.560
<v S3>flat and seamless that you don't see, because that is

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<v S3>one of the cons of hair extensions, is there are

0:19:58.510 --> 0:20:02.070
<v S3>some styles that you cannot wear your hair in because

0:20:02.070 --> 0:20:03.150
<v S3>it exposes the extension.

0:20:03.190 --> 0:20:06.030
<v S4>But it's also where it's been placed as well. Like,

0:20:06.030 --> 0:20:07.909
<v S4>I feel like the girls at your cell and they

0:20:07.910 --> 0:20:09.030
<v S4>place it so well.

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<v S5>Yeah, I mean, we we've we've worked out exactly where

0:20:11.470 --> 0:20:16.230
<v S5>to put them. Um, in terms of the clippings, um,

0:20:16.350 --> 0:20:18.470
<v S5>you want them to be flat as well, because sometimes

0:20:18.470 --> 0:20:20.790
<v S5>you can see people that are wearing clipping extensions, and

0:20:20.790 --> 0:20:22.830
<v S5>you can see that it looks bulky. That's something you

0:20:22.869 --> 0:20:24.990
<v S5>hate as well. I've got some clients that are like,

0:20:24.990 --> 0:20:26.510
<v S5>I want to wear hair extensions, but I look like

0:20:26.510 --> 0:20:28.270
<v S5>a Lego head, so make sure that you put them

0:20:28.270 --> 0:20:31.510
<v S5>really low. Yeah, so that's really important as well. We

0:20:31.510 --> 0:20:32.750
<v S5>used to glue them into your hair.

0:20:32.790 --> 0:20:37.670
<v S3>Yeah. Yeah. One time Marie got this funny, funny glue, right?

0:20:37.710 --> 0:20:39.710
<v S3>So I'd gone to the Brownlow. What year was it?

0:20:39.750 --> 0:20:42.389
<v S3>A white dress. I just remember the white maticevski dress.

0:20:42.390 --> 0:20:45.990
<v S3>Shoulder pads. Yeah. Pony. We did the pony. She glued

0:20:45.990 --> 0:20:48.230
<v S3>in a metre of hair and. But it was a

0:20:48.230 --> 0:20:50.670
<v S3>new glue. Right. What's the back story on that glue?

0:20:50.710 --> 0:20:53.710
<v S5>I went to a friend of mine who had that

0:20:53.710 --> 0:20:56.770
<v S5>shop on Chapel Street, and I said, Olga, I need

0:20:56.770 --> 0:20:59.689
<v S5>some really strong glue, because Alan White was out of

0:20:59.690 --> 0:21:01.450
<v S5>stock and I usually used to get them from a

0:21:01.490 --> 0:21:03.889
<v S5>guy called Alan White in Sydney. And there was no glue.

0:21:03.890 --> 0:21:05.250
<v S5>So I was like, I went to Olga and I

0:21:05.250 --> 0:21:06.689
<v S5>was like, I need something that's going to make it

0:21:06.690 --> 0:21:09.810
<v S5>last all night. Well, it lasted for more than all night.

0:21:09.850 --> 0:21:11.850
<v S3>I lasted and lasted and.

0:21:11.850 --> 0:21:14.250
<v S5>Was getting text messages not only from you, but also

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<v S5>from Nadia. And she was like, Nadia Bartel.

0:21:17.490 --> 0:21:17.810
<v S4>Oh.

0:21:18.090 --> 0:21:23.810
<v S3>This? It wasn't glue. Super glue? No, it was super glue.

0:21:24.330 --> 0:21:28.890
<v S3>I was in a bath crying with a bottle of vodka.

0:21:29.570 --> 0:21:30.689
<v S5>Because I was like, use.

0:21:30.730 --> 0:21:33.050
<v S3>Alcohol and it was ripping my hair out and I

0:21:33.050 --> 0:21:35.490
<v S3>was like, sobbing. And I got there and it was

0:21:35.530 --> 0:21:37.729
<v S3>Smirnoff and I put it all over my head.

0:21:37.730 --> 0:21:38.170
<v S5>She's like.

0:21:38.930 --> 0:21:41.770
<v S3>She goes rubbing alcohol like vodka.

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<v S2>Na na na na na.

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<v S6>Name.

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<v S4>I do love hair extensions.

0:21:52.369 --> 0:21:54.130
<v S3>I just love that when you get out of the

0:21:54.130 --> 0:21:58.149
<v S3>shower and it dries. It's it's like it's just done

0:21:58.190 --> 0:22:02.030
<v S3>because there's so much it just looks good more often

0:22:02.030 --> 0:22:05.149
<v S3>with no styling or no messing around, no fiddling. It

0:22:05.150 --> 0:22:08.470
<v S3>just always looks good. And I'm addicted to them and

0:22:08.470 --> 0:22:11.470
<v S3>I don't think I'll ever have them taken out. Me either.

0:22:11.470 --> 0:22:13.750
<v S3>When I'm 90, I'll be in the nursing home rocking

0:22:13.750 --> 0:22:15.190
<v S3>my extensions.

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<v S5>But I think you said, like you said at the start,

0:22:17.030 --> 0:22:19.150
<v S5>you said it was very taboo a while ago. Like

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<v S5>I would never tell people that I, you know, as

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<v S5>a hairdresser, I'd feel like I couldn't tell you. Cheating.

0:22:25.630 --> 0:22:26.390
<v S3>Yeah, really.

0:22:26.430 --> 0:22:29.990
<v S5>There's so many different things that you can do these days,

0:22:30.109 --> 0:22:32.150
<v S5>and I think that it's not taboo anymore. Like, we

0:22:32.150 --> 0:22:33.710
<v S5>can talk about it like I used to be scared

0:22:33.710 --> 0:22:35.910
<v S5>to tell people that I put hair extensions in your

0:22:35.910 --> 0:22:38.390
<v S5>hair for your wedding because it was like. It was like,

0:22:38.390 --> 0:22:41.430
<v S5>do we tell people like, do they feel like they're cheating? Like, yeah,

0:22:41.470 --> 0:22:43.230
<v S5>but now it's not like it's.

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<v S3>Let's stop faking it.

0:22:44.630 --> 0:22:44.990
<v S5>Yes.

0:22:44.990 --> 0:22:47.070
<v S3>Like I was just born. Like I just woke up

0:22:47.070 --> 0:22:49.350
<v S3>like this, mate. No one woke up like that.

0:22:49.390 --> 0:22:49.630
<v S4>No.

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<v S3>No way.

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<v S4>These vitamins I took did not do this.

0:22:52.710 --> 0:22:53.190
<v S3>Yeah.

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<v S4>In two days.

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<v S3>For the hair growth.

0:22:55.690 --> 0:22:55.970
<v S4>Did.

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<v S3>Not and added a meter of Russian hair overnight.

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<v S5>I think back in the day it would be like,

0:23:01.170 --> 0:23:03.010
<v S5>let's look after your hair, let's take vitamins, do this

0:23:03.050 --> 0:23:06.010
<v S5>or do that. We're in a world about instant gratification now,

0:23:06.050 --> 0:23:10.570
<v S5>so everyone instantly wants to, you know, you guys know

0:23:10.570 --> 0:23:12.330
<v S5>about all these beauty things that people do, but hair

0:23:12.330 --> 0:23:14.810
<v S5>extensions is one of those things. Like, I want long hair. Great,

0:23:14.810 --> 0:23:15.570
<v S5>let's do it. Let's do.

0:23:15.570 --> 0:23:15.689
<v S3>It.

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<v S5>Straight away. Kimmy K she is.

0:23:17.730 --> 0:23:19.610
<v S4>Yeah. She has short pinup girl.

0:23:19.650 --> 0:23:20.889
<v S5>She changes her hair.

0:23:20.930 --> 0:23:21.730
<v S3>All the time.

0:23:21.730 --> 0:23:22.530
<v S5>All the time.

0:23:22.570 --> 0:23:25.730
<v S3>And just backtrack there. I still feel like the vitamins

0:23:25.730 --> 0:23:28.090
<v S3>and the supplements and the collagen and stuff, that's very important.

0:23:28.090 --> 0:23:29.250
<v S3>And I take all of them.

0:23:29.290 --> 0:23:31.530
<v S4>Yeah, and they do work. But it's just that you help.

0:23:31.690 --> 0:23:32.209
<v S4>They do.

0:23:32.650 --> 0:23:34.890
<v S3>Nothing helps. Like putting in a hair.

0:23:34.890 --> 0:23:37.530
<v S5>Where there is a little bit of like a people

0:23:37.570 --> 0:23:40.889
<v S5>a little bit apprehensive because they're like, oh, hair extensions.

0:23:40.930 --> 0:23:43.770
<v S5>Like what? There's the unknown because it has been taboo

0:23:43.770 --> 0:23:44.369
<v S5>for so long.

0:23:44.410 --> 0:23:46.610
<v S3>Yeah. And also it's confusing. How much is this going

0:23:46.609 --> 0:23:49.050
<v S3>to cost me? What's the maintenance? What's the outlay?

0:23:49.250 --> 0:23:50.850
<v S4>Yeah. How long is it going to last.

0:23:50.890 --> 0:23:53.050
<v S3>And is it going to damage my hair. And there's

0:23:53.050 --> 0:23:55.150
<v S3>so many different types. How do I know which one's

0:23:55.150 --> 0:23:55.869
<v S3>right for me?

0:23:55.910 --> 0:23:58.750
<v S5>If they're done right, there's no damage at all. No, that's.

0:23:58.790 --> 0:24:02.469
<v S5>I strongly believe that if they're done right and now

0:24:02.790 --> 0:24:05.869
<v S5>with how good they are, there is absolutely no way

0:24:05.869 --> 0:24:07.270
<v S5>that they're going to damage your hair.

0:24:07.270 --> 0:24:09.870
<v S4>So how do you know where to find the right

0:24:09.869 --> 0:24:11.750
<v S4>person to do them right?

0:24:11.790 --> 0:24:15.910
<v S5>I think there's so much information on the internet now,

0:24:16.150 --> 0:24:18.750
<v S5>or there's so much information on socials. You'll be able

0:24:18.750 --> 0:24:20.710
<v S5>to see if you look on their page and you

0:24:20.710 --> 0:24:22.950
<v S5>know whether they're a salon that doesn't good or not.

0:24:22.990 --> 0:24:25.990
<v S4>So and hairdressers do. Every hairdresser can do them or

0:24:26.030 --> 0:24:27.870
<v S4>is it? It's a specialized training.

0:24:27.950 --> 0:24:30.629
<v S5>No, it's definitely specialized training. You need to train people

0:24:30.630 --> 0:24:32.629
<v S5>up to do it. And there was such a demand

0:24:32.630 --> 0:24:35.830
<v S5>for it that we I was forced into doing it.

0:24:35.830 --> 0:24:37.430
<v S5>And now that we're doing it, it's such a big

0:24:37.430 --> 0:24:38.510
<v S5>part of our business now.

0:24:38.550 --> 0:24:40.869
<v S3>And you've got great staff who do it really well.

0:24:40.869 --> 0:24:41.909
<v S5>The girls are really good.

0:24:41.910 --> 0:24:43.949
<v S4>They've nailed it. I get mine done in like 45

0:24:43.950 --> 0:24:44.750
<v S4>minutes now.

0:24:44.790 --> 0:24:45.470
<v S3>So good.

0:24:46.070 --> 0:24:46.430
<v S4>They're like.

0:24:47.070 --> 0:24:51.830
<v S3>Okay, so which celebs do you think nail their hair extensions?

0:24:51.830 --> 0:24:54.970
<v S5>I mentioned before Kimmy K just I've spoken to Chris

0:24:54.970 --> 0:24:59.210
<v S5>about it. Chris. Who's Chris? Chris Appleton is Kim Kardashian's hairdresser.

0:24:59.250 --> 0:25:02.250
<v S5>He's a global ambassador of a product, and I had

0:25:02.250 --> 0:25:05.690
<v S5>the opportunity to work with him recently. And I asked him,

0:25:05.810 --> 0:25:07.970
<v S5>can you imagine any questions I asked about Kim Kardashian.

0:25:07.970 --> 0:25:09.409
<v S3>Would have been such a pest.

0:25:09.810 --> 0:25:11.970
<v S5>I asked him so many questions and he was just like,

0:25:11.970 --> 0:25:14.930
<v S5>he's there's a there's a lady in New York that

0:25:14.930 --> 0:25:16.689
<v S5>a lot of even Australians go to when they're in

0:25:16.690 --> 0:25:19.250
<v S5>New York, and she supplies a lot of hair extensions.

0:25:19.250 --> 0:25:23.250
<v S5>She is like gets them from she gets good quality,

0:25:23.250 --> 0:25:25.130
<v S5>so she must get them from Russia. But she supplies

0:25:25.130 --> 0:25:27.570
<v S5>to Kim. So Chris gets all these extensions. But when

0:25:27.570 --> 0:25:29.530
<v S5>I saw his I thought I went around with a

0:25:29.530 --> 0:25:31.810
<v S5>lot of extensions. When I saw his suitcase of hair,

0:25:31.850 --> 0:25:34.170
<v S5>I was like, okay, I feel better now because he

0:25:34.170 --> 0:25:38.050
<v S5>had a full suitcase of all extensions and literally he

0:25:38.050 --> 0:25:41.730
<v S5>does nothing without it. And for her transformations that so

0:25:41.730 --> 0:25:45.489
<v S5>quickly changed from blonde to bobs to long to, you know,

0:25:45.530 --> 0:25:48.409
<v S5>sometimes she only colors literally a small portion of her hair,

0:25:48.410 --> 0:25:51.450
<v S5>and the rest of it is wefts or wig pieces

0:25:51.450 --> 0:25:54.590
<v S5>or I mean Kylie's one wig pieces as well, But

0:25:54.790 --> 0:25:58.510
<v S5>I think the Kardashians, especially Kim and Kylie, they're the

0:25:58.510 --> 0:26:01.750
<v S5>two that I really think do the best hair extensions.

0:26:01.790 --> 0:26:03.750
<v S5>I mean, like, let's not look at Dolly Parton's, but

0:26:03.790 --> 0:26:04.070
<v S5>you know.

0:26:04.109 --> 0:26:06.750
<v S4>Yeah, yeah. They've put they've put hair extensions on the

0:26:06.790 --> 0:26:07.710
<v S4>on the map again.

0:26:07.750 --> 0:26:08.150
<v S3>Yeah.

0:26:08.230 --> 0:26:10.310
<v S4>You know, not made it kind of a taboo thing.

0:26:10.350 --> 0:26:12.750
<v S3>Is there a name for the feeling you get when

0:26:12.750 --> 0:26:15.550
<v S3>you see your natural hair, when the extensions come out?

0:26:15.590 --> 0:26:18.790
<v S5>I think it's just it's kind of. It's like when

0:26:18.790 --> 0:26:20.630
<v S5>you take your makeup off at the end of the night,

0:26:20.670 --> 0:26:23.510
<v S5>I suppose. Yeah. Naked. You feel naked. What do you

0:26:23.510 --> 0:26:27.149
<v S5>feel when you take your hair extensions out for that small,

0:26:27.150 --> 0:26:29.630
<v S5>brief amount of time? How do you feel? Uh.

0:26:30.430 --> 0:26:32.909
<v S3>It's quite shocking, actually, to feel your hair without the

0:26:32.910 --> 0:26:34.350
<v S3>extension in.

0:26:34.510 --> 0:26:36.790
<v S5>But. But both of you have both said this, and

0:26:36.790 --> 0:26:39.149
<v S5>I've noticed this. Of both of you have both said it.

0:26:39.190 --> 0:26:41.790
<v S5>You're like, oh my God, how long's my natural hair? Yeah.

0:26:41.830 --> 0:26:45.390
<v S5>You don't even realize that it actually makes your hair grow.

0:26:45.550 --> 0:26:47.510
<v S4>Yeah, yeah. No I do. Every time I get my

0:26:47.510 --> 0:26:49.070
<v S4>hair extensions out, I'm like, oh my gosh, my hair

0:26:49.070 --> 0:26:50.030
<v S4>is so long.

0:26:50.070 --> 0:26:52.270
<v S5>I think the important thing to remember is and this

0:26:52.270 --> 0:26:54.970
<v S5>is something that you guys both do because I tell

0:26:54.970 --> 0:26:56.530
<v S5>you to do it, but is to make sure that

0:26:56.530 --> 0:26:58.810
<v S5>you're getting regular maintenance on your own hair. So if

0:26:58.850 --> 0:27:01.369
<v S5>you trim your own hair when you're taking it out,

0:27:01.410 --> 0:27:04.889
<v S5>trim your hair, trim your hair stays healthy. And that

0:27:04.930 --> 0:27:07.409
<v S5>I think it's when you don't touch your natural hair

0:27:07.410 --> 0:27:11.010
<v S5>and you keep getting your extensions lifted, then that means

0:27:11.010 --> 0:27:13.730
<v S5>you're not looking after your natural hair as well.

0:27:13.770 --> 0:27:14.730
<v S3>So regular trim.

0:27:14.770 --> 0:27:15.170
<v S5>Regular.

0:27:15.250 --> 0:27:16.010
<v S3>Anything else?

0:27:16.250 --> 0:27:18.210
<v S5>Treatments? I mean, um.

0:27:18.250 --> 0:27:19.290
<v S4>Good shampoo and conditioner.

0:27:19.330 --> 0:27:20.530
<v S5>Good shampoo and conditioner, I think.

0:27:20.730 --> 0:27:24.450
<v S3>Hold up, hold up. Is that is that BS? Right.

0:27:24.490 --> 0:27:27.609
<v S3>Because I've been seeing some stuff. I've been seeing some stuff.

0:27:27.609 --> 0:27:28.770
<v S3>Guys go down.

0:27:29.250 --> 0:27:30.450
<v S4>Algorithms changed.

0:27:30.609 --> 0:27:35.850
<v S3>So you know like obviously there's really beautiful shampoo and

0:27:35.850 --> 0:27:41.330
<v S3>conditioner brands. And then there's some more supermarket brands that

0:27:41.330 --> 0:27:44.209
<v S3>I love, right. Because they're cheap and cheerful and they

0:27:44.210 --> 0:27:47.170
<v S3>make my hair feel amazing. And so many professionals say,

0:27:47.170 --> 0:27:49.770
<v S3>don't use that. It's supermarket stuff. It's got silicone in it.

0:27:49.810 --> 0:27:52.330
<v S3>It's bad for you. And I'm like, when I use it,

0:27:52.369 --> 0:27:55.439
<v S3>it feels really good and my hair is really shiny. Have.

0:27:55.600 --> 0:28:00.160
<v S3>Is it marketing? Have we? No. No. Explain to me

0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:05.320
<v S3>why we should invest in an $80 shampoo and conditioner

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:07.040
<v S3>that I'm going to use in two weeks, when I

0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:08.040
<v S3>could go and get good old.

0:28:08.160 --> 0:28:10.920
<v S5>It just. It's like. It's like when you don't use,

0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:13.440
<v S5>you know, you're not going to use a cheap moisturizer

0:28:13.440 --> 0:28:15.880
<v S5>on your skin. So why would you use a cheap

0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:18.920
<v S5>conditioner on your hair? Because basically all it's doing is

0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:22.560
<v S5>coating the outside of your hair, but your hair cuticle,

0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:25.719
<v S5>basically there's three parts of it. There's the the inside

0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:28.200
<v S5>bit like the cortex. And then there's like the flesh

0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:29.760
<v S5>bit and then there's the skin bit. So there's three

0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:32.600
<v S5>bits to it. So the cuticles the outside layer that's

0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:34.840
<v S5>that's pretty much like your skin. If you're looking at

0:28:34.840 --> 0:28:38.240
<v S5>your arm it's like your skin. So if you don't

0:28:38.440 --> 0:28:42.000
<v S5>nourish that it's not going to go deeper into and

0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:45.280
<v S5>fix the actual hair shaft. So the cuticle is like

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:48.640
<v S5>the really important bit. So those other ones just kind

0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:52.120
<v S5>of coat the outside. They don't really do any instant gratification.

0:28:52.160 --> 0:28:54.060
<v S3>Yeah. Which I'm all about. Yeah. Yeah.

0:28:54.060 --> 0:28:57.060
<v S5>But I'm saying, like, most people won't use an inexpensive

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<v S5>moisturizer on their skin. They just won't. They won't do

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<v S5>that because they're like, I'm scared I'm going to age.

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<v S5>I'm going to do this. I'm going to do that.

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<v S5>It's the same.

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<v S3>With.

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<v S5>Your.

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<v S3>I guess, because it's not like, like because it's already

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<v S3>grown out and it's dead. It's dead. Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v S3>It's all good. Never heard of anybody. Looks pretty good.

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<v S4>That's the ish on her.

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<v S5>I must admit. Like, when I recommend, like an actual.

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<v S5>There's different levels of salon brands that you can use

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<v S5>compared to the supermarkets. There's the salon brands. When I

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<v S5>do recommend it to the clients, they come back and

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<v S5>they're like, oh, you were actually right. My hair does

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<v S5>feel amazing.

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<v S3>It's amazing.

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<v S4>I have to say, being with you, my hair has grown.

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<v S4>It's amazing. It feels good. It's healthy.

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<v S3>It looks good. Look at you whipping around your little pony.

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<v S4>Oh my God, look at me.

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<v S5>I'm loving this little style you've got at the moment.

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<v S4>I love it. I love it because my weft is.

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<v S5>Yeah, it's perfect I love it, it's so pretty.

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<v S4>It gives me a non-surgical eyelift.

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<v S3>Why are you whispering.

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<v S4>Am I it's giving me a non-surgical eyelift. Look at that.

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<v S4>Do I look younger?

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<v S3>Thank you darling.

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<v S4>Thank you so much for popping on and talking everything.

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<v S4>Hair extensions because it is like everyone's doing it. And

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<v S4>if you're not doing it.

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<v S5>Do.

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<v S4>It. Get on to it and go see Marie and

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<v S4>get her new hair extensions. Congratulations.

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<v S5>Thank you so much.

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<v S4>Thank you. So hair extensions for me. I've been doing

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<v S4>it for so long. I've tried them all. I've done

0:30:20.760 --> 0:30:23.800
<v S4>the tapes, I've done the weft. I've done the clippings.

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<v S4>I'm personally love the weft because I find it easier

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<v S4>for me to style. And I'm never giving up on this.

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<v S4>Like I will always be a hair extension girl to

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<v S4>the day I die.

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<v S3>They look so good on you. You know, I did clips.

0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:42.880
<v S3>I was a clip girl for so long. I'm talking, oh,

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<v S3>13 years. Only 12 months ago did I get a

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:50.000
<v S3>weft sewn in. And the reason I did is because

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<v S3>I kept wearing the clips every day. You've got to

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<v S3>get like a little comb and you've got to tease

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<v S3>a little bit of hair to put the clip into.

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<v S3>And because I kept teasing the same spot, you're actually

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<v S3>quite rough. And there's a bit of trauma to the

0:31:03.740 --> 0:31:06.380
<v S3>hair with that comb. And I thought, God, I'm putting

0:31:06.380 --> 0:31:08.660
<v S3>these bloody things in every day. Let's just get it

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<v S3>sewn in permanently.

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<v S4>And it's definitely saved the trauma of me walking into

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<v S4>a hotel room, seeing your extensions everywhere.

0:31:15.780 --> 0:31:18.980
<v S3>My animal is now permanently attached to my hair. So

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<v S3>I'm loving myself sick.

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<v S4>Yeah. And the last few times I've travelled with you,

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<v S4>I've not noticed any dead animals in our apartment.

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<v S3>Oh, good. I'm never going.

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<v S4>Back.

0:31:26.900 --> 0:31:28.979
<v S3>I'll be buried with this thing bloody sewn in.

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<v S4>Yeah, literally, if I die, can you go into the

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<v S4>morgue and, like, lift it all up for me?

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<v S3>Oh, God.

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<v S4>Oh, God.

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<v S3>Thanks, guys. We'll see you for the next step.

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<v S2>Only do what we wanna know. Same ish.