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S3: Hi, everyone.
S4: Hey, everyone. Bec and Jess here. Welcome to vanish. Welcome.
S4: And we are doing this amazing podcast talking about everything vain.
S4: Because at the end of the day, we want to
S4: look and feel great. So we're a bit vain ish.
S3: Yeah, not completely vain, a little vain, and. Yeah. And
S3: I feel like there's such a stigma about wanting to hide.
S3: That you actually want to look and feel good. We're
S3: made to feel like it's really frowned upon, but everyone
S3: does it. Whether you color your hair, whether you shave
S3: your legs, whether you pluck out your grays, you put
S3: makeup on, it's all to look and feel better. So
S3: let's just embrace it because it is what it is.
S3: Let's live in the real world and not this world
S3: where we have to hide who we actually are and say,
S3: oh yeah, no, I'm completely comfortable with.
S4: How I look and all that. Because at the end
S4: of the day, we didn't wake up like this.
S3: We did not wake up like this.
S4: We didn't. And most people don't.
S3: I didn't wake up smelling like this because I am
S3: wearing your singlet.
S4: Yes you are.
S3: And it smells like your house. So when I walk
S3: into your house, there's this specific smell. And it is
S3: your washing detergent.
S4: Oh, yes. Because you have a weird thing about washing detergent.
S3: No, but your whole house smells like washing detergent because
S3: you're a crazy laundry lady.
S4: I am, and I always put my clothes on the
S4: line inside and not out, because I don't want the
S4: smell of air to infiltrate into my clothes.
S3: What's your aversion with the smell of air, anyway? And sorry,
S3: what is the smell of air?
S4: It just smells like nothing. The big thing for me
S4: is like in your hair. Your hair just smells like
S4: hair and there's just no fragrance in it like that
S4: just makes me. I get the biggest ick from it. Yeah.
S4: And it really sets the tone of my day. Like,
S4: if someone has stinky hair, I'm done.
S3: Or stinky breath. You've come to me before and you're
S3: in a foul mood. And I said, what, babe? You
S3: didn't get your coffee. You're like, no, such and such
S3: came in and breathed on me. They had bad breath
S3: and it's triggered me.
S4: Triggered me, and I'm done. Like, I almost need to
S4: go back to bed, have a nap and reset and
S4: wake up. So I don't know if it's because diagnosed
S4: with ADHD, your senses are in hearing and smell is
S4: a huge thing. Yeah, so it really sets my tone
S4: of my day. So smells is just my. Yeah.
S3: Do you know what helps with bad breath in our family?
S3: One of my kids went and for medical reasons he
S3: had he had the worst breath.
S4: Right.
S3: As soon as he came out. You know, like that
S3: little newborn vanilla breath. This kid didn't have it right.
S3: It was foul from the beginning. He ended up getting
S3: his tonsils taken out and now his breath. He could
S3: breathe on me all day. It is so good. It's sweet.
S3: Like ice cream.
S4: Oh, I love that. Yeah. I'm gonna go smell his breath.
S3: Yeah.
S4: Do you.
S3: Know what? It's me.
S4: What?
S3: That dirty, oily hair smell.
S4: So I feel like that smells a bit airy.
S3: No, it smells oily.
S4: Oh, really?
S3: Yeah. And salty. Oh, this is another one.
S4: Oh, my God, what else is there?
S3: That or I would say, do you know what? This
S3: is random. I love the smell of portrait of a lady.
S3: You know that fragrance? It's really bougie. It's bloody expensive.
S3: You get it from Mecca. And whenever anyone walks past
S3: me with this smell, I love it. But when I
S3: wear it on myself, it gives me a headache and
S3: it makes me nauseous. Really? I have to have a
S3: shower and scrub it off. Really? Yeah.
S4: But you like it on somebody else.
S3: But on everyone else. Have you ever had that with
S3: a fragrance where it smells good on everyone, and then
S3: you put it on and it's rank?
S4: Yeah.
S3: Yep. What are your other ex and aversions. And they
S3: don't have to be smells.
S4: I think a big ick for me is and it
S4: is back to a smell. Thing is, when the kids
S4: get in the car after a day at school, there's
S4: like this stale fart that's in their clothes. I don't know.
S4: And you go into the classrooms and they smell this.
S3: It's a stench, but it's a feeling. Yeah, it's warm
S3: and moist. Do you know what it is?
S4: Stale farts. No.
S3: It's puppies. They smell like puppies.
S4: Yes. Oh!
S3: Ah!
S4: So then I get my kids in the car. The
S4: windows are down. I'm so triggered by it. Then I
S4: get inside the house and I make them take all
S4: their uniform off before they sit on the couch. It's
S4: all washed, so I'm constantly doing washing because my kids
S4: are literally wearing the school uniform. One day I will
S4: not have them wearing it in the second day.
S3: No, but your kids wouldn't do that anyway. Your son
S3: is the cleanest, most incredible little hygienic kid I've ever met.
S3: I wish my kids were more like him. He walks
S3: in from school and he goes straight to the shower.
S4: Straight to the shower. He's going to make his wife
S4: so happy. I've trained him well, so well. So going
S4: about like my thing of ex of smell and everything.
S4: And mine is a big thing, is hair.
S3: Yeah, hair is icky. It's icky. You know, when you're
S3: walking behind someone and they haven't washed their hair and
S3: it's all separated? Oh.
S4: Gross, gross gross gross. I have to say, the funniest
S4: thing I've ever experienced with you was when we were
S4: in New York, um, not long ago. And I walked
S4: into the apartment and I'm like, we're very clean humans,
S4: but we are together when we travel. The biggest trash bags.
S3: Without kids.
S4: Without kids. Like we are messier than our children.
S3: Freedom. Yes. And we can get away with it because
S3: the kids aren't there going, oh my God, mom, look
S3: how messy you're being. Because there's no one judging us.
S4: No one's judging us.
S3: Go crazy. Yeah, it's so liberating.
S4: So liberating just to be kids again and just trash
S4: a room. So. Yeah. So we were getting ready. We
S4: went out. We went out all night or whatever. We
S4: came home around, I reckon 11:00 at night. We went
S4: to bed. Then you had to get up for a
S4: photo shoot. Yeah, and I got up mad, rushed running
S4: downstairs to get to breakfast in time because we were
S4: a bit jet lagged. And then I'd go back up
S4: to get ready, and I opened up the door and
S4: there was just these piles of animals in and amongst
S4: all our luggage, and I opened up the door and
S4: absolutely screamed. I think the entire hotel could hear me. Yeah.
S4: I was like, oh my God. And I was like,
S4: oh my God, I've got to go down to the reception.
S4: There's there's like.
S3: A raccoon or a squirrel or something.
S4: I literally thought raccoons had come into the apartment and
S4: had trashed the apartment and.
S3: It had.
S4: Died.
S3: We are the raccoons.
S4: Yeah, they had died in with all our clothes. And
S4: I found, like, four raccoons in our clothes. So I
S4: shut the door and I, like, regrouped. And then I
S4: opened up the door again to have, like, a little
S4: bit of a peek, and I looked and I was like, oh,
S4: my God, no, they're just begs fucking hair extensions. They
S4: were flung. I don't know, you must have walked in
S4: the room and just went, fuck this. And you've, like,
S4: pulled him out.
S3: Where have we been the night before? I reckon we
S3: got in at 5 a.m.. I reckon we were very
S3: a little bit peddled.
S4: I mean, yeah, it must have been.
S3: Get this one.
S4: Out, get.
S3: This one out.
S4: And I didn't have that because I have a weft.
S3: Yes.
S4: And you at the point didn't have a wig.
S3: I had clippings.
S4: You had clippings? Yeah. Every time I travelled with you. Yeah,
S4: every single time. And we always stay in the same room.
S4: There is always these dead animals, like, all over the room.
S4: And now I've realised they're just hair extensions.
S3: And you know what? I'm not gonna lie. Sometimes I
S3: scare myself with them. Oh, okay.
S4: Fucking scary.
S3: Yeah.
S4: And you don't leave him in a nice.
S3: My husband calls it my animal. You've got your animal in.
S4: Yeah. Literally, your fucking animals were everywhere. Yeah. So, speaking
S4: of hair extensions, we have got our amazing hairdresser, the Queen,
S4: the Queen Mary over who is going to come in
S4: today and talk about hair extensions. What are the best?
S3: How to do it, do it, what they cost. There's
S3: so many different types, it's actually quite overwhelming. It is
S3: what the maintenance is like. And Marie is such a gun.
S3: So Marie's been doing my hair since I moved to
S3: Melbourne in 2008.
S4: Wow.
S3: Yeah. So a very, very long time. Going on 17
S3: years of so many awesome hair memories together. I know
S3: she's been doing your hair for a long time as well. Yeah,
S3: she is a hairstylist, hair colorist to so many people.
S3: She looks after all the big celebs that she can
S3: tell us about. Hopefully share some cool stories with us.
S3: And yeah, yeah, part of I guess it's a really
S3: important part of my job is how I look. And
S3: Marie's been such a big part of that and we've gosh,
S3: we've travelled around the world together and yeah, can't wait
S3: to have her on today to discuss all things hair extensions.
S2: Vain ish.
S3: Marie. Over. Oh, hi. We're like family, babe.
S5: We are.
S3: How long have you been doing my hair for? I
S3: thought it was, like, 17 years.
S5: Yeah, a long time. 17 years since your first jitendra's.
S3: That's a lot of Brownlow Medals. That's a lot of Logies.
S3: That's a lot of shoots.
S5: It's a lot of colours to.
S3: A lot of colours. We did go ash blonde once.
S3: I was like, Marie going blonde. I want cool blonde.
S3: She's like, no, you've got really warm eyes. You can't
S3: go cool blonde. You'll look really bad. I said, no,
S3: you're giving me cool blonde. So I'm very obedient memory.
S3: She wouldn't do this now. She'd be like, fuck off,
S3: I'm not doing this to you. Okay then. Becky. Becky.
S3: With the not so good hair. Yeah, yeah. Made me
S3: ash blonde. And I was like, nah, I get it.
S4: How long did it last?
S3: I looked, I looked like a zombie.
S5: She came back in. She's like, you need to color
S5: my hair back. And I was like, I was waiting
S5: for it.
S4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
S3: Told you so back. So now I just listened to her.
S3: She's the queen.
S4: She is. She's never done a colour wrong on me.
S5: Oh.
S4: The best of the best.
S3: The best. So so good. So, Marie. Over. Tell us,
S3: how long have you been a hairstylist? To the stars? Colorist?
S3: Just hair guru.
S5: I've been hairdressing for about 26 years now. Yeah, it's
S5: been a long time.
S3: Salon?
S5: Yeah. Own salon for 11 of those years. I think
S5: the thing behind it, and to keep doing it is
S5: to really love what you do. And I think you
S5: guys both know that I still really do love what
S5: I do. So that's the main thing.
S3: Yeah, I'm very passionate. Tell us about all the different
S3: people celebs people love to to know who who's in
S3: your black book.
S5: Well, obviously you two. No we're not. No, we're just
S5: so great.
S3: I'm talking like proper celebs.
S5: I've been lucky enough to do some really amazing celebs. So,
S5: like Gigi Hadid is probably every time she comes to Australia.
S5: I do her hair and we still talk all the time.
S5: Like I'll speak to her on Instagram and stuff, and
S5: she's just the most beautiful celeb that I've had to
S5: work with. Lily Allen was one of them. Um, Rita Ora,
S5: Dua Lipa. Helena Christensen was an amazing one as well.
S5: Like obviously growing up looking at supermodels and then to
S5: be able to do a supermodels hair. Yeah, that was
S5: pretty amazing. And she also told me that I gave
S5: her the best and quickest blow I've ever had. And
S5: I was like, that's pretty rich coming from you. I
S5: was like, I'm gonna hang up the boots now.
S3: You are known for your blowies, babe, right? She does
S3: a good blowie.
S4: She does a good.
S3: Blowie in the biz.
S4: And you know.
S3: What.
S4: A good you know the up do the big pony.
S3: Yeah, it's called the pony.
S4: The pony? Oh, my God, they are. I'm. I'm going
S4: to get one one day. I haven't done it yet.
S3: Haven't you done the pony?
S4: I haven't done a pony.
S3: Okay. But I'm going I'm going to paint the picture
S3: of an Uber pony. Yeah. So it's a voluminous pony
S3: which has a kick like an s-bend. So if you're
S3: looking at it from the side, it's not a pony.
S3: It's like an S or like a question mark. Oh
S3: my God. Wow, that's such a good explanation.
S5: I'm impressed. I love that question mark, I love that.
S3: So Marie, when I moved to Melbourne from Perth I
S3: was really shocked as this naive Perth girl so had
S3: come in at Chris. My husband was playing for the
S3: AFL team. Carlton and I had all of the Carlton
S3: wives and girlfriends over for when the boys were playing interstate.
S3: They all came over, we had dinner, we went out
S3: to a bar afterwards, and we were all sitting around
S3: having a few drinks, and I was shocked. Every single
S3: one of them had hair extensions in and it was like,
S3: what is going on with these Melbourne chicks and their
S3: hair extensions? No one wore hair extensions in Perth.
S4: And no one wore them in Queensland.
S3: Yeah, but these Melbourne girls, they were all clip ins.
S3: They looked incredible. They all had amazing hair, and it's
S3: almost like this little hair subculture that had been going
S3: on here. I don't know if Sydney's the same, if
S3: Adelaide's the same, but back then it was a real
S3: Melbourne thing. Everyone had their clip ins. So I was like,
S3: I'm going to get me some clippings. And I went somewhere.
S3: I think it was like Chapel Street, where they used
S3: to do them and popped Pop them in, and I
S3: wore them to a party, and I was standing too
S3: close to a little tealight candle, and the whole extension
S3: caught on fire. No way. Yes. And I was like,
S3: what is that smell? And someone came over and said, Beck,
S3: you're on fire. I was a hair extension. Lucky it
S3: was a clipping. I just ripped it out.
S4: But also lucky if it was real hair, because if
S4: it was not real hair, your whole you would have
S4: blown up in flames.
S3: Because it did have that burnt hair smell. So like, legit,
S3: it was real hair. Yeah, but imagine if that had
S3: been like a sewn in weft or something. It would
S3: have been trouble. Are they in trouble? Anyway, ever since then,
S3: I've been intrigued by hair extensions, and I've noticed that
S3: throughout Australia. Now, like, everyone wears hair extensions, right?
S5: Yeah, I just think it's a part of it's a
S5: it's a part of the routine.
S3: What percentage of your clients wear hair extensions? Not just
S3: the celebs, everyone.
S5: I think there's a good 60%. Wow. Yeah. So clippings
S5: are obviously more, um, easy to wear because you can
S5: pop them in and take them out. Um, wefts are
S5: easy in terms of if you don't know how to
S5: put them in, they're just in there all the time.
S3: Sewn in.
S5: Attached. Some people some people find that really hard to,
S5: you know, um, pop them in. So some people have
S5: had stuff happen to their hair, whether it's been broken
S5: or they've cut it off and they've realized that they
S5: don't want that length anymore. So that's when you have
S5: the more permanent ones. But like, even if you've got
S5: and I say people bring in photos and they say,
S5: this is what I want. It started with brides essentially. Um,
S5: because I think as evolution has happened, there's a lot
S5: more red carpet events in Melbourne. Back when I started hairdressing,
S5: there wasn't as many red carpet events or I just
S5: wasn't doing as many of those clients. Um, so it
S5: started with brides and they would come to me and
S5: they would show me images and I'd be like, that's great,
S5: but you have four hairs on your head like, yeah,
S5: I'm going to need to put extensions in.
S3: Packet.
S5: In.
S3: Your hair for.
S5: That look. So because and I think realistically, like if
S5: you look at, um, any red carpet event like Golden
S5: Globes or, you know, like the Emmys or the Grammys.
S5: Like whatever it is, most people have extra hair in
S5: their hair to get the looks that they want. So
S5: and I think a lot of people were naive to that.
S5: And now a lot of people are realizing it.
S3: Yeah. Social media also helps that. And and people are
S3: very honest about it.
S5: So we started making them. So we started making made
S5: to order clippings for I mean I countless.
S3: Oh I've got, I've got a whole suitcase of different animals.
S5: Every, every.
S4: Event.
S5: That could be like, yeah, I've lost them. Can you
S5: make me another pair?
S3: And my hair would be a slightly different color. And
S3: Marie's such a perfectionist. She's like, no, you're more brunette now,
S3: so you need a brunette one. I'm like, oh, just
S3: use this old one.
S4: Yeah, she needs one for summer.
S3: This old.
S4: Thing. Yeah.
S3: No, no, that's the wrong color. So Marie will make
S3: me a fresh one. Or then if I go slightly lighter. No, no,
S3: they're too dark. And she'll make me a blonde one.
S3: She's so sweet. She'll be there with her staff. And
S3: they're putting the matching foils in the extension. So it's like.
S4: Perfect.
S3: And seamless.
S5: But it has to be, though. The other thing too is,
S5: is that like colors is an important thing. Like, we've
S5: all seen people walk down the street with hair extensions
S5: that look really obvious, like. And that is my biggest yes,
S5: that's my biggest nightmare. So I think clippings is easy
S5: for everyone to be able to wear. I mean, I've
S5: got them in today and and I've got heaps of hair.
S5: But sometimes like for me where I color my hair
S5: the most like around the front of my face, that's the,
S5: that's the bit that you kind of lose the most hair.
S5: So I just fill it up a little bit with
S5: some side fillers at the side. So I've filled up
S5: that side bit like a lot of my clients have
S5: got heaps of hair. I still recommend them to wear
S5: hair extensions, whether it's to fill up the front or
S5: just to give them that bit more volume or so.
S3: With the clipping, you've got one long one that's about what,
S3: 20 20cm? It goes around the base and then you
S3: do little side fillers.
S5: Yep. You can or you can like for me, I've
S5: got heaps of hair at the back. I don't need that.
S5: My hair's at the length that I want it. I
S5: literally just put the side ones in.
S3: So you say 60% of your clients at your salon
S3: have extensions and out of your celebrity clients. Is it
S3: closer to 100%?
S4: Yeah. There you go.
S3: It's so transformative. I remember when I put my first
S3: clip in hair extension in it was Becky.
S4: With the good hair.
S3: Becky with the good hair.
S5: But it also also gives us as a hairdresser. It
S5: gives you the flexibility to create anything.
S3: So with our weft it obviously grows out as our
S3: hair grows. So every is it 6 to 8 weeks.
S3: It needs to be lifted because a lot of people,
S3: they want hair extensions. They don't know where to begin.
S3: They're worried about ongoing maintenance and cost. So clippings are
S3: probably the most economical.
S5: Clippings are the most economical. They last the longest, you
S5: pop them in and you take them out. Whenever you
S5: have an event and they start from like the side
S5: fillers start from $149. So it's quite I mean, obviously
S5: if you wanted a bigger piece like it grows from there,
S5: but you can start having extensions in your hair from $149. Okay.
S5: It's the hair that costs the most.
S3: Okay. And where's the hair come from?
S5: All different places. Depending. Like if you want pure Russian hair.
S3: Daria.
S5: Dasha.
S3: Yeah, that's.
S5: That's a lot more expensive. Yeah, but most of the
S5: wefts that you get online or that you would put
S5: into your hair is a mix. So it's a mix
S5: of Russian and it's got like a couple of different
S5: things in there, a bit of Indian hair, like it's
S5: all mixed in together.
S4: With amazing hair. The hair extensions you use, they're incredible
S4: because that's you've created your own and done your own
S4: collab with them.
S5: Yes.
S4: So tell us about it. Tell us about that.
S5: So when it came to clipping extensions, I found that
S5: I'd always have to sew them because I didn't like
S5: the colours or I didn't like, um, the way that
S5: they were sewn. So I was like, they were like, well,
S5: let's do a collab. Let's create a brand together. So
S5: I've designed them to how I like them and so
S5: they're seamless. So basically the thing with the clip in
S5: extensions is that the colours that I've designed, being a
S5: colorist as well, I know how I want them to be.
S5: So basically there's six different, um, tones and they match
S5: everyone's hair. So it doesn't matter who it is. I've
S5: never found a set of hair that it doesn't match.
S5: That's amazing. So you don't have to color them. And
S5: they're easy to just grab off the shelf and to
S5: bring them to your hairdresser. And like I said, they
S5: suit everyone. There's two different colors that would suit me.
S5: There's two different colors that you could put into your hair.
S5: Same as you, Bec. Yeah. So depending like I've got
S5: darker ones and lighter ones, if I feel like having
S5: a bit of a pop of something, they still blend.
S3: And they blend well.
S5: And also to their flatter, um, I didn't like sometimes
S5: they would stick out and.
S3: So that you can disguise them. I don't like seeing
S3: hair extensions. And sometimes when I wear my if I
S3: wear a pony when I'm exercising, I can kind of
S3: see the bottom. And I try and I try and
S3: disguise it. And I remember I was on holidays with
S3: this little girl. She was ten and she came up
S3: to me. She's like, um, excuse me, I can see
S3: your hair extension.
S4: It wasn't scarlet, was it?
S3: Shame. I felt like, oh yeah, I just rushed when
S3: I put my pony up today and I didn't cover
S3: it properly. So I do love the idea of something
S3: flat and seamless that you don't see, because that is
S3: one of the cons of hair extensions, is there are
S3: some styles that you cannot wear your hair in because
S3: it exposes the extension.
S4: But it's also where it's been placed as well. Like,
S4: I feel like the girls at your cell and they
S4: place it so well.
S5: Yeah, I mean, we we've we've worked out exactly where
S5: to put them. Um, in terms of the clippings, um,
S5: you want them to be flat as well, because sometimes
S5: you can see people that are wearing clipping extensions, and
S5: you can see that it looks bulky. That's something you
S5: hate as well. I've got some clients that are like,
S5: I want to wear hair extensions, but I look like
S5: a Lego head, so make sure that you put them
S5: really low. Yeah, so that's really important as well. We
S5: used to glue them into your hair.
S3: Yeah. Yeah. One time Marie got this funny, funny glue, right?
S3: So I'd gone to the Brownlow. What year was it?
S3: A white dress. I just remember the white maticevski dress.
S3: Shoulder pads. Yeah. Pony. We did the pony. She glued
S3: in a metre of hair and. But it was a
S3: new glue. Right. What's the back story on that glue?
S5: I went to a friend of mine who had that
S5: shop on Chapel Street, and I said, Olga, I need
S5: some really strong glue, because Alan White was out of
S5: stock and I usually used to get them from a
S5: guy called Alan White in Sydney. And there was no glue.
S5: So I was like, I went to Olga and I
S5: was like, I need something that's going to make it
S5: last all night. Well, it lasted for more than all night.
S3: I lasted and lasted and.
S5: Was getting text messages not only from you, but also
S5: from Nadia. And she was like, Nadia Bartel.
S4: Oh.
S3: This? It wasn't glue. Super glue? No, it was super glue.
S3: I was in a bath crying with a bottle of vodka.
S5: Because I was like, use.
S3: Alcohol and it was ripping my hair out and I
S3: was like, sobbing. And I got there and it was
S3: Smirnoff and I put it all over my head.
S5: She's like.
S3: She goes rubbing alcohol like vodka.
S2: Na na na na na.
S6: Name.
S4: I do love hair extensions.
S3: I just love that when you get out of the
S3: shower and it dries. It's it's like it's just done
S3: because there's so much it just looks good more often
S3: with no styling or no messing around, no fiddling. It
S3: just always looks good. And I'm addicted to them and
S3: I don't think I'll ever have them taken out. Me either.
S3: When I'm 90, I'll be in the nursing home rocking
S3: my extensions.
S5: But I think you said, like you said at the start,
S5: you said it was very taboo a while ago. Like
S5: I would never tell people that I, you know, as
S5: a hairdresser, I'd feel like I couldn't tell you. Cheating.
S3: Yeah, really.
S5: There's so many different things that you can do these days,
S5: and I think that it's not taboo anymore. Like, we
S5: can talk about it like I used to be scared
S5: to tell people that I put hair extensions in your
S5: hair for your wedding because it was like. It was like,
S5: do we tell people like, do they feel like they're cheating? Like, yeah,
S5: but now it's not like it's.
S3: Let's stop faking it.
S5: Yes.
S3: Like I was just born. Like I just woke up
S3: like this, mate. No one woke up like that.
S4: No.
S3: No way.
S4: These vitamins I took did not do this.
S3: Yeah.
S4: In two days.
S3: For the hair growth.
S4: Did.
S3: Not and added a meter of Russian hair overnight.
S5: I think back in the day it would be like,
S5: let's look after your hair, let's take vitamins, do this
S5: or do that. We're in a world about instant gratification now,
S5: so everyone instantly wants to, you know, you guys know
S5: about all these beauty things that people do, but hair
S5: extensions is one of those things. Like, I want long hair. Great,
S5: let's do it. Let's do.
S3: It.
S5: Straight away. Kimmy K she is.
S4: Yeah. She has short pinup girl.
S5: She changes her hair.
S3: All the time.
S5: All the time.
S3: And just backtrack there. I still feel like the vitamins
S3: and the supplements and the collagen and stuff, that's very important.
S3: And I take all of them.
S4: Yeah, and they do work. But it's just that you help.
S4: They do.
S3: Nothing helps. Like putting in a hair.
S5: Where there is a little bit of like a people
S5: a little bit apprehensive because they're like, oh, hair extensions.
S5: Like what? There's the unknown because it has been taboo
S5: for so long.
S3: Yeah. And also it's confusing. How much is this going
S3: to cost me? What's the maintenance? What's the outlay?
S4: Yeah. How long is it going to last.
S3: And is it going to damage my hair. And there's
S3: so many different types. How do I know which one's
S3: right for me?
S5: If they're done right, there's no damage at all. No, that's.
S5: I strongly believe that if they're done right and now
S5: with how good they are, there is absolutely no way
S5: that they're going to damage your hair.
S4: So how do you know where to find the right
S4: person to do them right?
S5: I think there's so much information on the internet now,
S5: or there's so much information on socials. You'll be able
S5: to see if you look on their page and you
S5: know whether they're a salon that doesn't good or not.
S4: So and hairdressers do. Every hairdresser can do them or
S4: is it? It's a specialized training.
S5: No, it's definitely specialized training. You need to train people
S5: up to do it. And there was such a demand
S5: for it that we I was forced into doing it.
S5: And now that we're doing it, it's such a big
S5: part of our business now.
S3: And you've got great staff who do it really well.
S5: The girls are really good.
S4: They've nailed it. I get mine done in like 45
S4: minutes now.
S3: So good.
S4: They're like.
S3: Okay, so which celebs do you think nail their hair extensions?
S5: I mentioned before Kimmy K just I've spoken to Chris
S5: about it. Chris. Who's Chris? Chris Appleton is Kim Kardashian's hairdresser.
S5: He's a global ambassador of a product, and I had
S5: the opportunity to work with him recently. And I asked him,
S5: can you imagine any questions I asked about Kim Kardashian.
S3: Would have been such a pest.
S5: I asked him so many questions and he was just like,
S5: he's there's a there's a lady in New York that
S5: a lot of even Australians go to when they're in
S5: New York, and she supplies a lot of hair extensions.
S5: She is like gets them from she gets good quality,
S5: so she must get them from Russia. But she supplies
S5: to Kim. So Chris gets all these extensions. But when
S5: I saw his I thought I went around with a
S5: lot of extensions. When I saw his suitcase of hair,
S5: I was like, okay, I feel better now because he
S5: had a full suitcase of all extensions and literally he
S5: does nothing without it. And for her transformations that so
S5: quickly changed from blonde to bobs to long to, you know,
S5: sometimes she only colors literally a small portion of her hair,
S5: and the rest of it is wefts or wig pieces
S5: or I mean Kylie's one wig pieces as well, But
S5: I think the Kardashians, especially Kim and Kylie, they're the
S5: two that I really think do the best hair extensions.
S5: I mean, like, let's not look at Dolly Parton's, but
S5: you know.
S4: Yeah, yeah. They've put they've put hair extensions on the
S4: on the map again.
S3: Yeah.
S4: You know, not made it kind of a taboo thing.
S3: Is there a name for the feeling you get when
S3: you see your natural hair, when the extensions come out?
S5: I think it's just it's kind of. It's like when
S5: you take your makeup off at the end of the night,
S5: I suppose. Yeah. Naked. You feel naked. What do you
S5: feel when you take your hair extensions out for that small,
S5: brief amount of time? How do you feel? Uh.
S3: It's quite shocking, actually, to feel your hair without the
S3: extension in.
S5: But. But both of you have both said this, and
S5: I've noticed this. Of both of you have both said it.
S5: You're like, oh my God, how long's my natural hair? Yeah.
S5: You don't even realize that it actually makes your hair grow.
S4: Yeah, yeah. No I do. Every time I get my
S4: hair extensions out, I'm like, oh my gosh, my hair
S4: is so long.
S5: I think the important thing to remember is and this
S5: is something that you guys both do because I tell
S5: you to do it, but is to make sure that
S5: you're getting regular maintenance on your own hair. So if
S5: you trim your own hair when you're taking it out,
S5: trim your hair, trim your hair stays healthy. And that
S5: I think it's when you don't touch your natural hair
S5: and you keep getting your extensions lifted, then that means
S5: you're not looking after your natural hair as well.
S3: So regular trim.
S5: Regular.
S3: Anything else?
S5: Treatments? I mean, um.
S4: Good shampoo and conditioner.
S5: Good shampoo and conditioner, I think.
S3: Hold up, hold up. Is that is that BS? Right.
S3: Because I've been seeing some stuff. I've been seeing some stuff.
S3: Guys go down.
S4: Algorithms changed.
S3: So you know like obviously there's really beautiful shampoo and
S3: conditioner brands. And then there's some more supermarket brands that
S3: I love, right. Because they're cheap and cheerful and they
S3: make my hair feel amazing. And so many professionals say,
S3: don't use that. It's supermarket stuff. It's got silicone in it.
S3: It's bad for you. And I'm like, when I use it,
S3: it feels really good and my hair is really shiny. Have.
S3: Is it marketing? Have we? No. No. Explain to me
S3: why we should invest in an $80 shampoo and conditioner
S3: that I'm going to use in two weeks, when I
S3: could go and get good old.
S5: It just. It's like. It's like when you don't use,
S5: you know, you're not going to use a cheap moisturizer
S5: on your skin. So why would you use a cheap
S5: conditioner on your hair? Because basically all it's doing is
S5: coating the outside of your hair, but your hair cuticle,
S5: basically there's three parts of it. There's the the inside
S5: bit like the cortex. And then there's like the flesh
S5: bit and then there's the skin bit. So there's three
S5: bits to it. So the cuticles the outside layer that's
S5: that's pretty much like your skin. If you're looking at
S5: your arm it's like your skin. So if you don't
S5: nourish that it's not going to go deeper into and
S5: fix the actual hair shaft. So the cuticle is like
S5: the really important bit. So those other ones just kind
S5: of coat the outside. They don't really do any instant gratification.
S3: Yeah. Which I'm all about. Yeah. Yeah.
S5: But I'm saying, like, most people won't use an inexpensive
S5: moisturizer on their skin. They just won't. They won't do
S5: that because they're like, I'm scared I'm going to age.
S5: I'm going to do this. I'm going to do that.
S5: It's the same.
S3: With.
S5: Your.
S3: I guess, because it's not like, like because it's already
S3: grown out and it's dead. It's dead. Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
S3: It's all good. Never heard of anybody. Looks pretty good.
S4: That's the ish on her.
S5: I must admit. Like, when I recommend, like an actual.
S5: There's different levels of salon brands that you can use
S5: compared to the supermarkets. There's the salon brands. When I
S5: do recommend it to the clients, they come back and
S5: they're like, oh, you were actually right. My hair does
S5: feel amazing.
S3: It's amazing.
S4: I have to say, being with you, my hair has grown.
S4: It's amazing. It feels good. It's healthy.
S3: It looks good. Look at you whipping around your little pony.
S4: Oh my God, look at me.
S5: I'm loving this little style you've got at the moment.
S4: I love it. I love it because my weft is.
S5: Yeah, it's perfect I love it, it's so pretty.
S4: It gives me a non-surgical eyelift.
S3: Why are you whispering.
S4: Am I it's giving me a non-surgical eyelift. Look at that.
S4: Do I look younger?
S3: Thank you darling.
S4: Thank you so much for popping on and talking everything.
S4: Hair extensions because it is like everyone's doing it. And
S4: if you're not doing it.
S5: Do.
S4: It. Get on to it and go see Marie and
S4: get her new hair extensions. Congratulations.
S5: Thank you so much.
S4: Thank you. So hair extensions for me. I've been doing
S4: it for so long. I've tried them all. I've done
S4: the tapes, I've done the weft. I've done the clippings.
S4: I'm personally love the weft because I find it easier
S4: for me to style. And I'm never giving up on this.
S4: Like I will always be a hair extension girl to
S4: the day I die.
S3: They look so good on you. You know, I did clips.
S3: I was a clip girl for so long. I'm talking, oh,
S3: 13 years. Only 12 months ago did I get a
S3: weft sewn in. And the reason I did is because
S3: I kept wearing the clips every day. You've got to
S3: get like a little comb and you've got to tease
S3: a little bit of hair to put the clip into.
S3: And because I kept teasing the same spot, you're actually
S3: quite rough. And there's a bit of trauma to the
S3: hair with that comb. And I thought, God, I'm putting
S3: these bloody things in every day. Let's just get it
S3: sewn in permanently.
S4: And it's definitely saved the trauma of me walking into
S4: a hotel room, seeing your extensions everywhere.
S3: My animal is now permanently attached to my hair. So
S3: I'm loving myself sick.
S4: Yeah. And the last few times I've travelled with you,
S4: I've not noticed any dead animals in our apartment.
S3: Oh, good. I'm never going.
S4: Back.
S3: I'll be buried with this thing bloody sewn in.
S4: Yeah, literally, if I die, can you go into the
S4: morgue and, like, lift it all up for me?
S3: Oh, God.
S4: Oh, God.
S3: Thanks, guys. We'll see you for the next step.
S2: Only do what we wanna know. Same ish.