1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:04,340 S1: A listener production. 2 00:00:07,490 --> 00:00:13,039 S2: Activate your internet because the Hamish and Andy podcast starts 3 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,070 S2: in three two. 4 00:00:17,690 --> 00:00:21,440 UU: Sorry. Still buffering. One. 5 00:00:23,660 --> 00:00:27,560 S3: Ahoy to my branch operator. Hamish. Ah, yes. Thank you sir. 6 00:00:27,590 --> 00:00:29,780 S3: You will not be disappointed with who you put in charge. 7 00:00:29,780 --> 00:00:32,720 S3: We are not closing down this branch. What about the 8 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:37,250 S3: valuable ones? You absolutely wouldn't. Ahoy to my pump! Operator. Jack. Okay, 9 00:00:37,250 --> 00:00:40,489 S3: we could do without the pump, I think. No. Where 10 00:00:40,490 --> 00:00:43,430 S3: are you going? To get the pressure from. We'll find it. 11 00:00:44,270 --> 00:00:50,870 S3: And I am the station officer. Are we drillers? Are we? 12 00:00:51,050 --> 00:00:53,570 S3: Are we an oil drilling? No. Damn it! I thought 13 00:00:53,570 --> 00:00:53,870 S3: we were a. 14 00:00:53,870 --> 00:00:55,820 S4: Bank when it was the branches. 15 00:00:56,420 --> 00:00:59,600 S3: Or is it train stuff? Ehm. When we talked about 16 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,930 S3: emergency services off air while having lunch before this show, 17 00:01:02,930 --> 00:01:05,089 S3: you said this is the one you'd want to be in. Oh, 18 00:01:05,090 --> 00:01:07,070 S3: is this fire department? Fire department. 19 00:01:07,340 --> 00:01:08,330 S4: You said. 20 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:09,230 S3: I actually said. 21 00:01:09,230 --> 00:01:12,200 S4: Outside of the hypothetical, I want to be a firefighter. 22 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,679 S3: Yeah, because. But I haven't obviously done the training yet. 23 00:01:15,709 --> 00:01:18,470 S3: Would you? Well, I didn't say I am a firefighter 24 00:01:20,150 --> 00:01:22,580 S3: if you were the branch operator. Ham, this is what 25 00:01:22,580 --> 00:01:24,860 S3: you could look forward to. What would my roles and 26 00:01:24,860 --> 00:01:29,480 S3: responsibilities be? You the firefighter using the hose. You're the 27 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,360 S3: guy that gets awesome. Actually use the hose. Did we 28 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,760 S3: call it the branch? Do we? The branch is what? 29 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,030 S3: The end of the hose is called, right? And it 30 00:01:38,030 --> 00:01:38,869 S3: squirts out the leap. 31 00:01:38,870 --> 00:01:41,540 S4: Well, you need definitely need the pump operator then. Yeah, 32 00:01:41,540 --> 00:01:42,350 S4: if you want some pressure. 33 00:01:43,010 --> 00:01:47,450 S3: So sorry about that, mate. That wasn't good. Firehouse camaraderie. Yeah. 34 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,990 S3: You're just sitting there with a limp hose, wondering, swinging 35 00:01:50,990 --> 00:01:53,750 S3: around a limp branch. No, thanks. I need my pump 36 00:01:53,750 --> 00:01:57,470 S3: man to have a fully pressurized hose. But these firefighters 37 00:01:57,470 --> 00:02:00,230 S3: can change the pattern and flow of the water so 38 00:02:00,230 --> 00:02:02,960 S3: you can. You're in charge of your nozzle at the top. Yes, yes. 39 00:02:03,260 --> 00:02:07,160 S3: So shower spray? Yeah. Um, all the fun ones you 40 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:11,630 S3: have in the garden square. Triangle. Uh, pump operator Jack 41 00:02:11,630 --> 00:02:12,560 S3: drives the truck. 42 00:02:12,980 --> 00:02:15,410 S4: Oh, really? I thought I was just like, you know, 43 00:02:15,410 --> 00:02:17,210 S4: doing a. Oh, no. Jack, what are you doing? 44 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,300 S3: What are you. Jack? Jack is mimed miming like a bike. 45 00:02:20,300 --> 00:02:21,200 S3: Bike pump? Yeah. 46 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,840 S4: By like, I thought I was pumping pressure for the water. Hey, mate. 47 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,360 S3: Don't worry. We'll splash out on a motorised pump. You 48 00:02:26,990 --> 00:02:28,580 S3: have to pump it up like you're pumping up a 49 00:02:28,580 --> 00:02:31,340 S3: kid's bike. What a worry if you. If my house 50 00:02:31,340 --> 00:02:33,800 S3: is on fire and I haven't been able to take 51 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,350 S3: those three items. That thing you do, squirt, that's not 52 00:02:36,350 --> 00:02:39,380 S3: squirting two metres, you get there and Jack gets out 53 00:02:39,380 --> 00:02:41,540 S3: the pump and just starts pressing down on it. 54 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,730 S4: So it's a name left over, I guess, from when 55 00:02:43,730 --> 00:02:44,960 S4: they did use the bike pump. 56 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:46,700 S3: Well, no, it's still a pump. No, it's still a 57 00:02:46,910 --> 00:02:47,660 S3: motorised pump. 58 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,690 S4: If I'm driving the truck and I'm flicking the switch 59 00:02:50,690 --> 00:02:51,140 S4: on the pump. 60 00:02:51,139 --> 00:02:52,160 S3: Well, once you drive. 61 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:52,609 S4: There. 62 00:02:52,610 --> 00:02:55,040 S3: You need I think the truck is actually called the pump. 63 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:59,000 S3: You need another role, obviously. Stop trying to weasel out 64 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:00,320 S3: of job the driver. 65 00:03:00,620 --> 00:03:02,899 S4: I did the hard part. I navigated us through traffic 66 00:03:02,900 --> 00:03:03,950 S4: with lights on. 67 00:03:03,980 --> 00:03:05,930 S3: So be good. If we had someone back at the truck. No, 68 00:03:05,930 --> 00:03:07,970 S3: Jack's already done his job. He's having donuts now while 69 00:03:07,970 --> 00:03:10,610 S3: we man the fire. Are we trying? What are you again? 70 00:03:10,610 --> 00:03:14,330 S3: Andoh plays station officer. Just looking over looking all of you. 71 00:03:14,330 --> 00:03:16,280 S3: And tell you what. Jack is not impressed me? Yeah. 72 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,470 S4: Do you not come out to the fires? 73 00:03:18,500 --> 00:03:23,360 S3: No no no no. Come on now these days mate. Nah, 74 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,820 S3: they did it when I was a young Smokey, but, uh, 75 00:03:25,820 --> 00:03:29,630 S3: not anymore mate. Too much shit going on back here. 76 00:03:31,820 --> 00:03:34,430 S3: I'll swing past when it's cinders and have to. We'd 77 00:03:34,430 --> 00:03:36,860 S3: love to be back out there with you boys get 78 00:03:36,860 --> 00:03:40,760 S3: the boots on again. But, you know, mate with my shoulder. 79 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,930 S3: The old compo. Um. Hoy also ham. Oh, sorry. Do 80 00:03:44,930 --> 00:03:47,870 S3: you have another? No, no no, no, that's my end 81 00:03:47,870 --> 00:03:52,580 S3: of my questions about firefighters Ahoy. Also to, uh, Matt Wood, uh, 82 00:03:52,580 --> 00:03:55,130 S3: who used the easy to use system intercom to tell 83 00:03:55,130 --> 00:03:57,260 S3: us what he's been up to. He's, uh, in the 84 00:03:57,260 --> 00:03:58,100 S3: Northern Territory. 85 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,310 S5: Did I? Hi. I'm Andy and number six. How are 86 00:04:01,310 --> 00:04:04,730 S5: we going, boys? It's Matt here, currently traveling from Darwin 87 00:04:04,730 --> 00:04:07,760 S5: to Perth. I'm looking at about 8 to 9 days 88 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,000 S5: of camping ahead of me. So hey, you're an expert. 89 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:15,030 S5: Share some wisdom if you can. I'm about 800 K's 90 00:04:15,030 --> 00:04:17,190 S5: out of Uluru, so I know you fellows are meant 91 00:04:17,190 --> 00:04:18,960 S5: to be there for your first day back at Cool 92 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,750 S5: Boy in the front man, but unfortunately he couldn't. So 93 00:04:21,750 --> 00:04:23,850 S5: in your honour, I'll be smashing back a few tins 94 00:04:23,850 --> 00:04:26,490 S5: for youse. Cheers. Keep up the good work, fellas. 95 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:31,890 S3: Oh, what a legend, Matt. Um, my camping tips for Matt. Hey, um, 96 00:04:32,190 --> 00:04:34,500 S3: I know we listen, I know we listen. We've got 97 00:04:34,500 --> 00:04:37,410 S3: studio quality headphones in here, and I'm not sure how 98 00:04:37,410 --> 00:04:39,090 S3: clear people will be listening to this. Depends on your 99 00:04:39,089 --> 00:04:42,779 S3: headphones there. But to my ears, it sounds like the 100 00:04:42,779 --> 00:04:45,270 S3: first camping tip I would give Matt is I think 101 00:04:45,270 --> 00:04:46,950 S3: you've got a flat change. 102 00:04:46,950 --> 00:04:48,720 S4: Your tire. Flat tire didn't. 103 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,720 S3: Sound a bit like you were rumbling along on a flat. 104 00:04:51,990 --> 00:04:55,169 S3: So definitely if you've got 800 CS to cover one 105 00:04:55,170 --> 00:04:57,120 S3: a good I actually know someone that's good with a 106 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:02,010 S3: bike pump. I can can send him your way, send 107 00:05:02,010 --> 00:05:04,020 S3: out the pump operator. Sounds like you might need a 108 00:05:04,020 --> 00:05:06,060 S3: bit of inflation, but other than that you're doing it perfectly. 109 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,270 S3: You wanted the start of today's show. I did, and 110 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:13,140 S3: now we get a lot. What? Look, what's what's happened 111 00:05:13,140 --> 00:05:16,200 S3: over the course, I think of the, you know, last 112 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,960 S3: year and this year is we've sort of become the 113 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:24,810 S3: show to go to when you need to investigate something 114 00:05:24,810 --> 00:05:29,880 S3: going on. Um, in the chocolate world. Yes. Um, and look, 115 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,850 S3: and I think, I think we've done some amazing interesting 116 00:05:32,850 --> 00:05:35,280 S3: when you don't set out. We didn't all have a 117 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,500 S3: team meeting and saying, hey, did not ask to be 118 00:05:37,500 --> 00:05:39,750 S3: these guys know, you know, X men and people like that. 119 00:05:39,750 --> 00:05:42,300 S3: They didn't ask to be mutants. Did they know? And Spider-Man, 120 00:05:42,300 --> 00:05:43,980 S3: he didn't. He didn't ask to be. He didn't want 121 00:05:43,980 --> 00:05:46,290 S3: to do it. No. And, uh, but he does. And 122 00:05:46,290 --> 00:05:48,929 S3: it's a responsibility. He does, he does. And that's and 123 00:05:48,930 --> 00:05:51,900 S3: I think Bruce Wayne, he did want to do it. 124 00:05:51,900 --> 00:05:55,590 S3: He has to want to do it because he's making 125 00:05:55,589 --> 00:05:57,780 S3: all the stuff he didn't get. He's actually not a superhero. 126 00:05:57,779 --> 00:06:00,089 S3: He hasn't been. Yeah, a third party didn't anoint him. 127 00:06:00,089 --> 00:06:03,750 S3: He's just well, rich and rich. Yeah. Like a lot 128 00:06:03,750 --> 00:06:06,179 S3: of gadgets. What we're saying is when you're in the 129 00:06:06,180 --> 00:06:09,719 S3: justice game, sometimes it's foisted upon you, sometimes you want, 130 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,330 S3: you know, sometimes you you just choose to do it. Yeah. 131 00:06:12,330 --> 00:06:14,820 S3: We fell into it. We were probably a different category 132 00:06:14,820 --> 00:06:17,729 S3: as well. We fell into it. We you know, we've 133 00:06:17,730 --> 00:06:23,370 S3: investigated many, many controversies and conspiracies within the chocolate world. 134 00:06:23,370 --> 00:06:27,150 S3: Probably the biggest one of all is the flake luxury. 135 00:06:27,150 --> 00:06:31,260 S3: Is it a twirl? Yes. Is it not a twirl that, 136 00:06:31,260 --> 00:06:33,239 S3: you know, getting to the bottom of that? Yep. And 137 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,820 S3: one of the big issues that came up in that 138 00:06:35,820 --> 00:06:40,470 S3: case in the flake luxury versus twirl case was the 139 00:06:40,470 --> 00:06:45,659 S3: on packet graphic. Yes. Remember it was exactly the same 140 00:06:45,660 --> 00:06:48,690 S3: picture on the packet. And that's what really made us 141 00:06:48,690 --> 00:06:51,930 S3: go hang on a sec Cadbury in this case the defendant, 142 00:06:51,930 --> 00:06:55,080 S3: they are having a laugh. They are having they're having 143 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:56,940 S3: a laugh with us because they're just shipping out the 144 00:06:56,940 --> 00:07:00,090 S3: same bar and just dolling it up a different way. Sorry. 145 00:07:00,089 --> 00:07:01,950 S3: Park that for a sec. Side note remember then how 146 00:07:01,950 --> 00:07:04,560 S3: we were talking about the breakaway, how that that was 147 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,010 S3: actually a rebadged time out went from Time out. Zo 148 00:07:08,010 --> 00:07:10,410 S3: bought one the other day, right. Bought a breakaway. She's 149 00:07:10,410 --> 00:07:12,360 S3: eating it at home. She goes, oh God. Breakaway is 150 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:13,590 S3: a nice. And I said, you know, it's just a 151 00:07:13,590 --> 00:07:17,160 S3: remade time out. No it's not. They're delicious. And I said, yeah, 152 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,920 S3: I'm pretty sure like knowing full well she hadn't she 153 00:07:20,220 --> 00:07:23,010 S3: doesn't very often listen to the podcast. And I floored 154 00:07:23,010 --> 00:07:26,220 S3: her with my knowledge of the breakaway packet. Like, look, 155 00:07:26,460 --> 00:07:28,470 S3: she goes, oh my God, it is. I said, yeah, 156 00:07:29,250 --> 00:07:31,140 S3: you got to ask me some stuff, babe, because there's 157 00:07:31,140 --> 00:07:32,250 S3: a lot of things I know. 158 00:07:33,150 --> 00:07:35,490 S4: It's just equally as shocking that she goes breakaway as 159 00:07:35,490 --> 00:07:37,260 S4: her choice of chocolate bar. 160 00:07:37,260 --> 00:07:40,020 S3: Someone gave her one and she really liked it. And 161 00:07:40,020 --> 00:07:42,480 S3: then she she she grabbed one at the. She grabbed 162 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,430 S3: a few at the supermarket and put them. I know 163 00:07:44,430 --> 00:07:46,350 S3: she's got the, you know the high up in the fridge. 164 00:07:46,350 --> 00:07:49,080 S3: The is that for cheese. That compartment at the top. 165 00:07:49,140 --> 00:07:51,780 S3: We don't have any cheese in it. That's just those 166 00:07:51,780 --> 00:07:55,860 S3: chunky breakaway. You don't go in there, um, recklessly. Okay. 167 00:07:55,860 --> 00:07:58,500 S3: So that's that's where it was living. Anyway. Someone's bought 168 00:07:58,500 --> 00:08:01,470 S3: another case to us. Molly. Great. And she's like, I 169 00:08:01,470 --> 00:08:07,480 S3: think I've found another chocolate crime. Pods, specifically the Mars 170 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,420 S3: and the Twix variety of pods. Now, pods are a 171 00:08:10,420 --> 00:08:12,970 S3: format that I think is just it's just Mars. Cadbury 172 00:08:12,970 --> 00:08:15,130 S3: don't do pods do that. It's it's Mars. It's a 173 00:08:15,130 --> 00:08:16,780 S3: it's a format they came up with to go, let's 174 00:08:16,780 --> 00:08:19,930 S3: take our beloved chocolate bars and put them in pod form, 175 00:08:20,110 --> 00:08:22,210 S3: which is a sort of a biscuit cup. And then 176 00:08:22,210 --> 00:08:26,140 S3: the chocolate layering in there. Good idea. I'm not for them. 177 00:08:26,140 --> 00:08:27,190 S3: I'm not. I'm actually. 178 00:08:27,190 --> 00:08:28,270 S4: I like a pod. 179 00:08:28,270 --> 00:08:31,690 S3: Really, I find them. You like anything sweet, Jack? I've seen. 180 00:08:31,690 --> 00:08:35,470 S4: Jack just wander around and just skirmish. 181 00:08:35,470 --> 00:08:38,500 S3: Anything he can. The problem with pods is they're not 182 00:08:38,500 --> 00:08:41,319 S3: satisfying by themselves. And you can eat a whole bag 183 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:45,040 S3: very fast right there, there. And which, obviously, the company knows. 184 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:50,470 S3: And that's how they make their money. So here's the thing. I've. 185 00:08:50,710 --> 00:08:53,020 S3: I've got us all a bag of some pods here. 186 00:08:53,020 --> 00:08:55,959 S3: We've got Twix and Mars pods. Right. Open them up. 187 00:08:56,350 --> 00:08:58,479 S3: The first thing I want you to do, I've got 188 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,760 S3: my bag here, and now you got your bag. First 189 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:01,930 S3: thing I want you to do is you look at 190 00:09:01,929 --> 00:09:03,730 S3: the back. Would you. Would you? Well, you got to 191 00:09:03,730 --> 00:09:05,380 S3: compare that. You've got to compare them. Jack, could you 192 00:09:05,650 --> 00:09:06,130 S3: watch one of you? 193 00:09:06,580 --> 00:09:07,240 S4: I've got Twix. 194 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,610 S3: Would you prefer Jack read out, read out the read 195 00:09:09,610 --> 00:09:11,170 S3: out the definition of the Twix. 196 00:09:11,170 --> 00:09:14,229 S4: All right. Gooey dollop of Twix caramel in a crispy 197 00:09:14,230 --> 00:09:17,380 S4: baked wafer topped off with a delicious milk chocolate. 198 00:09:17,380 --> 00:09:21,309 S3: Now read out Mars Andy. Delicious rich Mars caramel cradle 199 00:09:21,309 --> 00:09:22,660 S3: in a crispy baked. 200 00:09:22,660 --> 00:09:23,560 S4: Wafer topped. 201 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:24,400 S3: Off with creamy. 202 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:25,360 S4: Milk chocolate. 203 00:09:25,900 --> 00:09:28,840 S3: Now, Jack, you give yours back to Andy. You look 204 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:33,739 S3: at these side by side. The contention for Molly is 205 00:09:33,740 --> 00:09:36,920 S3: these are the same thing in 1 in 1. They've 206 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,670 S3: changed the adjective. You've got deliciously rich Mars caramel versus 207 00:09:40,670 --> 00:09:44,719 S3: gooey dollop of Twix caramel. Yes, both. Both admit it's 208 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,689 S3: a crispy wafer. Yes. On the Mars One, it's cradled 209 00:09:47,690 --> 00:09:50,510 S3: in a crispy wafer in the Twix one it doesn't 210 00:09:50,510 --> 00:09:53,390 S3: say cradled, but apart from that, you look at it, 211 00:09:53,390 --> 00:09:54,980 S3: you look at the picture andoh, well, the. 212 00:09:54,980 --> 00:09:56,300 S6: Pictures are exactly the same. 213 00:09:56,300 --> 00:09:58,760 S3: The pictures are exactly the same. 214 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:04,760 S6: They've put a black stripe behind the Mars and orange stripe. 215 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,920 S3: I'm glad you picked up on that. That's the that. 216 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,290 S3: And then look, there's a drip as well in the 217 00:10:09,290 --> 00:10:11,510 S3: top left hand corner. They've changed the on the Twix. 218 00:10:11,510 --> 00:10:14,630 S3: The big drip is brown. The small drip is caramel. 219 00:10:14,630 --> 00:10:17,540 S3: On the Mars the big drip is caramel. The small 220 00:10:17,540 --> 00:10:21,150 S3: drip is brown. We obviously have to do a taste. 221 00:10:21,179 --> 00:10:22,140 S4: Test, obviously. 222 00:10:22,230 --> 00:10:24,330 S3: Now here's the other thing. You look at these and 223 00:10:24,330 --> 00:10:28,319 S3: you're like, okay. The big question here is at the 224 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,770 S3: Mars factory, like where they make all our favorite Mars 225 00:10:31,770 --> 00:10:39,300 S3: confectionery M&Ms. Twix. Mars. Maltesers. At the factory, they've got 226 00:10:39,300 --> 00:10:42,960 S3: two main products that use caramel. Yes. You've got Mars. Yep. 227 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:47,250 S3: And you've got Twix. Mm.hmm. Do they expect us to 228 00:10:47,250 --> 00:10:50,280 S3: believe that there is a secret recipe for the Mars 229 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,819 S3: caramel cake versus the Twix caramel? That's really what this 230 00:10:53,820 --> 00:10:58,109 S3: comes down to. Or as as Molly suspects, and I 231 00:10:58,110 --> 00:11:00,030 S3: think there's a lot of listeners now are suspecting, is 232 00:11:00,030 --> 00:11:03,300 S3: it the same damn pipe? So Twix has. 233 00:11:03,300 --> 00:11:04,829 S6: A biscuit in it, doesn't it? Yeah. 234 00:11:04,830 --> 00:11:06,840 S4: The chocolate bars themselves are definitely chocolate. 235 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:08,580 S3: Bars are completely different. So which is which is why 236 00:11:08,580 --> 00:11:11,760 S3: it would be totally legal to use the same trademark 237 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,940 S3: Mars Caramel. Although when you put them in pod form 238 00:11:14,940 --> 00:11:18,570 S3: and the only ingredient is caramel and chocolate, you now 239 00:11:18,570 --> 00:11:20,880 S3: have the same product again. So you start with two 240 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,890 S3: different chocolate bars. This is the danger. I mean, as 241 00:11:22,890 --> 00:11:25,320 S3: much as we saluted the pod format, this is the 242 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,020 S3: danger of what happens when you pod them. Yes, they 243 00:11:28,020 --> 00:11:31,800 S3: become the same pod. Mhm. So the accusation here is 244 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,679 S3: are they really allowed to have two of the same pod. 245 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,500 S3: Because I mean what makes us laugh is there are 246 00:11:37,500 --> 00:11:39,600 S3: people walking down the aisles going oh do I want 247 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,189 S3: a mars pod or do I want a Twix pod? 248 00:11:41,220 --> 00:11:42,959 S3: I do, because you have a Twix. When you feel 249 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:44,609 S3: like you need a bit more of a meal, because 250 00:11:44,610 --> 00:11:45,750 S3: I've got a biscuit in it. 251 00:11:46,290 --> 00:11:47,430 S4: I never think that the. 252 00:11:47,429 --> 00:11:50,309 S3: Only candy with the cookie crunch. Okay, two for anyone 253 00:11:50,309 --> 00:11:52,290 S3: that's seen the candy bar lineup episode of Seinfeld. 254 00:11:52,290 --> 00:11:55,350 S6: To the eye, they look exactly the same as you 255 00:11:55,350 --> 00:11:56,340 S6: pull them out of the bag. 256 00:11:56,340 --> 00:11:57,630 S3: They don't. They do, don't they? 257 00:11:57,630 --> 00:12:00,240 S6: Yeah. I'm passing them over to Jack. Make sure you 258 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:01,710 S6: remember Jack. Which one's your Twix? 259 00:12:01,710 --> 00:12:04,260 S4: Which one's Twix on the right. Mars on. 260 00:12:04,530 --> 00:12:06,870 S3: Mars. Okay, I'll do the same. Twix on the right. Mars. 261 00:12:07,170 --> 00:12:11,550 S4: Exactly the same without extraordinarily similar. 262 00:12:11,550 --> 00:12:13,709 S3: Okay. Twix on the right. Mars on the left. Which 263 00:12:13,710 --> 00:12:18,720 S3: one do we have first? Who should be the hard bit. 264 00:12:18,750 --> 00:12:20,459 S3: They shouldn't be the hard bit. Which one? 265 00:12:20,580 --> 00:12:21,960 S6: Let's take the mouse first. Okay. 266 00:12:22,260 --> 00:12:26,610 S3: Okay. Mars on the left. Okay. 267 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,819 S7: I quite underestimated. This is quite good. They're good. 268 00:12:30,270 --> 00:12:32,309 S3: They're amazing. Like I said, you eat the whole bag. 269 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,699 S3: So you bite through the chocolate pretty fast. You're into 270 00:12:35,700 --> 00:12:37,830 S3: the caramel. Everyone feeling that. 271 00:12:37,830 --> 00:12:39,479 S4: And that does taste like a mask to me. 272 00:12:39,540 --> 00:12:40,860 S6: Yeah. And really, because it. 273 00:12:40,860 --> 00:12:42,630 S3: Has I would say the Twix is more accurate because 274 00:12:42,630 --> 00:12:46,079 S3: it does have a biscuity wafer. But anyway, now, I mean, 275 00:12:46,260 --> 00:12:48,540 S3: it has Mars flavour. Okay. Now the Twix, do we. 276 00:12:48,540 --> 00:12:49,860 S6: We don't have to clean our palettes. We can just 277 00:12:49,860 --> 00:12:50,429 S6: go straight in because. 278 00:12:50,580 --> 00:12:52,050 S3: I don't think so because they're the same thing. Yeah. 279 00:12:58,730 --> 00:13:00,620 S3: I mean, is anyone getting anything different there? 280 00:13:01,309 --> 00:13:02,840 S7: I think I got the same thing. 281 00:13:03,590 --> 00:13:04,370 S4: No. That's fine. 282 00:13:04,429 --> 00:13:05,030 S7: They're the same. 283 00:13:05,210 --> 00:13:06,469 S4: They're the same. I can't believe. 284 00:13:07,250 --> 00:13:11,210 S3: The different bars become the same thing when you modify them. 285 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,670 S6: That is incredible. We've got. 286 00:13:13,790 --> 00:13:14,360 S3: Anthem. 287 00:13:14,390 --> 00:13:16,280 S6: We've got you got the right. Yeah, we've got you. 288 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,920 S3: And now flip around and look at the front. Prepare 289 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:23,630 S3: for the final piece of mind blowing material. Yep. Jack, 290 00:13:23,630 --> 00:13:27,830 S3: how much energy in kilojoules per serve is the Mars 291 00:13:27,830 --> 00:13:28,490 S3: on the front? 292 00:13:28,490 --> 00:13:30,980 S4: Mars is 503 kilojoules. 293 00:13:30,980 --> 00:13:33,890 S3: Jack, how much energy per serve is the Twix in 294 00:13:33,890 --> 00:13:39,020 S3: kilojoules 505 kilojoules? WTF is going on? 295 00:13:40,730 --> 00:13:43,460 S4: Could we? Maybe we're just not refined enough to taste 296 00:13:43,460 --> 00:13:44,900 S4: two kilojoules more? 297 00:13:44,929 --> 00:13:47,960 S3: It is. It is half a calorie. So it's a 298 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:49,520 S3: it's a tough thing to taste. 299 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:53,720 S6: So you reckon they're adding just like a fraction more calories. Caramel. Wow. Try. 300 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,150 S3: No okay. Okay. So there's that. So it could be a. 301 00:13:56,150 --> 00:13:59,059 S4: Taste thing but a ratio could be slightly different. 302 00:13:59,059 --> 00:14:01,040 S3: Right now we go back to the ingredients. Now I've 303 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,559 S3: already done this I'll save you the trouble. Great. First 304 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,290 S3: I'm going to read out the Mars obviously doesn't tell 305 00:14:06,290 --> 00:14:08,450 S3: you exactly the ingredients, but it gives you the breakdown. Yes. 306 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:14,330 S3: Milk chocolate 51% biscuit 30. Caramel 19%. Yep. Twix. Milk 307 00:14:14,330 --> 00:14:18,770 S3: chocolate 51%. Biscuit 30. Caramel 19%. So it is exactly 308 00:14:18,770 --> 00:14:23,810 S3: the same ratios. No, no. Oh, no. Mars. Yes. 309 00:14:23,810 --> 00:14:24,619 S6: Exactly. 310 00:14:24,620 --> 00:14:26,900 S3: So it's exactly so in the ingredients, they list exactly 311 00:14:26,900 --> 00:14:30,050 S3: the same ratios. For some reason there's two kilojoules difference 312 00:14:30,050 --> 00:14:35,060 S3: in energy. Now we must be talking millionths of percents 313 00:14:35,060 --> 00:14:37,700 S3: of difference. If there is different caramel in these. But 314 00:14:37,700 --> 00:14:38,000 S3: then I'm. 315 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,980 S6: Going through all the rest of it with the cocoa fat. 316 00:14:39,980 --> 00:14:41,390 S3: And I'll save you the I'll save you the time. 317 00:14:41,390 --> 00:14:42,560 S3: It's exactly the same. Exactly the. 318 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:43,220 S4: Same. They're the same. 319 00:14:43,220 --> 00:14:44,270 S3: Exactly the same. And. 320 00:14:44,900 --> 00:14:47,000 S6: So hang on, hang on, hang on. 321 00:14:48,950 --> 00:14:50,780 S3: Trust me, mate, it's just a formatting thing. 322 00:14:50,900 --> 00:14:54,950 S6: Just the bottom of the Twix, it says, may present peanuts, 323 00:14:54,950 --> 00:14:59,830 S6: tree nuts and barley. We're on the bottom of the Mars. 324 00:14:59,860 --> 00:15:04,180 S6: It just says may present peanuts and tree nuts. There's no. 325 00:15:04,180 --> 00:15:05,290 S6: And barley. 326 00:15:05,350 --> 00:15:06,970 S4: Maybe different factory. 327 00:15:07,590 --> 00:15:10,170 S3: Maybe so. You reckon? Different caramel. 328 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,980 S4: Like, don't they usually say that if they're doing the 329 00:15:13,980 --> 00:15:16,290 S4: Snickers in the same factory and the peanut accidentally falls 330 00:15:16,290 --> 00:15:18,180 S4: over into the caramel? Oh, yeah, I see what you're saying. 331 00:15:18,390 --> 00:15:22,080 S4: So maybe they're in two different coming out of two different. 332 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:22,410 S4: I know we. 333 00:15:22,410 --> 00:15:25,470 S6: Like speculating here, but we we love it. I feel 334 00:15:25,470 --> 00:15:26,190 S6: like we need we. 335 00:15:26,190 --> 00:15:27,630 S3: Actually do need a mars person, don't. 336 00:15:27,630 --> 00:15:28,229 S6: We? Yeah. Can we get it? 337 00:15:28,230 --> 00:15:32,070 S3: Cause if it comes. If if it if it means 338 00:15:32,310 --> 00:15:34,260 S3: I mean, I think what we're discovering here is like, 339 00:15:34,260 --> 00:15:35,820 S3: are they going to look at us in the eye 340 00:15:35,820 --> 00:15:38,220 S3: and say, yeah, yeah, there's two different caramels. 341 00:15:38,220 --> 00:15:39,900 S6: Yeah. No, I don't think they will know. 342 00:15:40,740 --> 00:15:44,820 S3: It'll be ballsy. So either way, we're just setting up 343 00:15:44,820 --> 00:15:46,260 S3: for a hell of a conclusion here. 344 00:15:47,310 --> 00:15:54,090 S6: Great stuff. Ehm. Ehm. You're a fool if you don't 345 00:15:54,090 --> 00:15:57,420 S6: listen to this podcast. Not because we're entertaining, but you're 346 00:15:57,420 --> 00:15:59,130 S6: getting behind on life, aren't you? 347 00:15:59,130 --> 00:16:01,050 S3: You are. And it's okay. We can call people fools 348 00:16:01,050 --> 00:16:03,960 S3: because they obviously can't hear it. Yeah. Um. And if 349 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:08,190 S3: you do listen though, you gather up, um, gather up 350 00:16:08,190 --> 00:16:11,550 S3: these power moves. Yeah. You get the dried forth into life, 351 00:16:11,700 --> 00:16:16,770 S3: and you perform at your absolute peak capacity, the highest 352 00:16:16,770 --> 00:16:17,460 S3: voltage in. 353 00:16:17,460 --> 00:16:18,750 S6: Every social situation. 354 00:16:21,060 --> 00:16:25,290 S3: Another batch and, uh. Uh, all right, this comes in 355 00:16:25,290 --> 00:16:30,810 S3: from Nathan. It's an a it's another AFL based one. Now, unfortunately, 356 00:16:30,810 --> 00:16:33,420 S3: we had a, we had a pro like we had like, 357 00:16:33,420 --> 00:16:35,250 S3: you have to be playing in the AFL. Like you 358 00:16:35,250 --> 00:16:37,560 S3: have to be playing at the top level. Um, for 359 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,990 S3: a power move a couple of weeks ago. This doesn't 360 00:16:39,990 --> 00:16:42,420 S3: work at the top level because it's the part at 361 00:16:42,420 --> 00:16:43,920 S3: the end of the game where you do three cheers 362 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,160 S3: for the other team, which you don't you don't do 363 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,760 S3: at the top level, although in in and of itself, again, 364 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,680 S3: for those guys that we know, there are a bunch 365 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,830 S3: of AFL players that do listen to the podcast. Love 366 00:16:55,830 --> 00:16:58,109 S3: to see that, love to see that you beat a 367 00:16:58,110 --> 00:17:00,840 S3: team by 100 points, get your huddle and then go 368 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,550 S3: up to the other team and go and let's have three. 369 00:17:02,550 --> 00:17:07,230 S3: Let's have three cheers for, uh, for West Coast like, guys, please, please. 370 00:17:07,350 --> 00:17:08,760 S3: You've already beaten us. 371 00:17:08,850 --> 00:17:10,620 S6: We've we used to do it for hockey. 372 00:17:10,740 --> 00:17:12,209 S3: You have to do it. I think you do it 373 00:17:12,210 --> 00:17:14,430 S3: at every sport. Until what state. 374 00:17:14,430 --> 00:17:17,550 S6: Level? We would change up the way and different teams 375 00:17:17,550 --> 00:17:19,139 S6: would try. I used to come at uni. 376 00:17:19,140 --> 00:17:21,989 S3: At uni, like I would come like hung over on 377 00:17:21,990 --> 00:17:24,570 S3: a Saturday morning and watch you play like a good 378 00:17:24,570 --> 00:17:28,500 S3: girlfriend and you would do hip hooray, hip hip hooray. 379 00:17:28,500 --> 00:17:29,490 S6: So you know, do you. 380 00:17:29,490 --> 00:17:30,300 S3: Know that one, Jack? 381 00:17:30,300 --> 00:17:33,450 S6: No. Melbourne. Melbourne. Three cheers for Ringwood. Hip Ray. Hip Ray. 382 00:17:33,450 --> 00:17:34,320 S6: Hip Ray. Yeah. 383 00:17:35,310 --> 00:17:37,500 S3: You would. They would cut a hip out. So you 384 00:17:37,500 --> 00:17:38,460 S3: don't do hip hip. 385 00:17:38,460 --> 00:17:41,250 S6: Because the second hip makes it worse I reckon. 386 00:17:41,250 --> 00:17:45,030 S3: Well it feels very oldie. Like the second hip. You 387 00:17:45,030 --> 00:17:46,649 S3: know what's coming after you do the first hip so 388 00:17:46,650 --> 00:17:48,630 S3: I can see that. But there's no reason to cut 389 00:17:48,630 --> 00:17:52,170 S3: out the hu of the ruck. That's a bit. That's 390 00:17:52,170 --> 00:17:53,490 S3: a bit stingy. It just. 391 00:17:53,490 --> 00:17:54,210 S6: It felt. 392 00:17:54,210 --> 00:17:55,740 S3: What can't you do? Hip hooray! It felt. 393 00:17:55,740 --> 00:17:58,200 S6: Stronger. It felt more like a, you know, a haka. 394 00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:59,220 S6: I suppose we're not there. 395 00:17:59,220 --> 00:18:01,440 S3: The point you're meant to be saying like, congratulations. 396 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,540 S4: It feels like you want to leave early. Like you 397 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,250 S4: did it. Did you want to get off the ground 398 00:18:05,250 --> 00:18:06,240 S4: as soon as possible? 399 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,100 S3: That was my take, too, because I didn't play team 400 00:18:08,100 --> 00:18:10,379 S3: sports growing up. So this is almost like as a 401 00:18:10,380 --> 00:18:12,570 S3: 19 year old was my first introduction to what the 402 00:18:12,570 --> 00:18:14,820 S3: team sports culture is. So I was like, yeah, right. 403 00:18:14,820 --> 00:18:18,240 S3: So at the end, you do this really, um, begrudging 404 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,840 S3: facsimile of a hippie parade. You're like, hey, let's pretend 405 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,210 S3: to thank the other team. No worries. See you mate. 406 00:18:24,210 --> 00:18:25,170 S3: See you mate. See you mate. What? 407 00:18:27,270 --> 00:18:29,520 S6: The other one. We trialled for a while but went 408 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:34,140 S6: back to him. Do you pray? Pray, pray. We went 409 00:18:34,140 --> 00:18:38,340 S6: hip hip hip. Ray Ray, Ray Basham. 410 00:18:38,340 --> 00:18:38,850 S4: It's like. 411 00:18:38,850 --> 00:18:39,540 S3: You're trying to. 412 00:18:39,540 --> 00:18:45,000 S6: Get it even faster. But yeah, it felt better. Just hip, 413 00:18:45,180 --> 00:18:48,780 S6: hip hooray. I think what we're trying to do three H, three. 414 00:18:48,780 --> 00:18:52,350 S3: R that's we've reduced it to algebra and that's as 415 00:18:52,350 --> 00:18:53,550 S3: fast as we can do it. 416 00:18:53,550 --> 00:18:56,609 S6: It felt like it felt like you were trying to 417 00:18:56,609 --> 00:18:59,609 S6: do this combat sport, and then you had to say hip, 418 00:18:59,609 --> 00:19:02,520 S6: hip hooray for the other team or the start as well. Yeah. 419 00:19:02,700 --> 00:19:04,740 S6: Both that start and finish I thought was overkill. 420 00:19:04,740 --> 00:19:07,800 S3: Well, okay. Well, we know it exists, right? We know 421 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,480 S3: it exists, you know, and I think it exists like 422 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,000 S3: right into the upper levels. Like as adults, you still 423 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,350 S3: have to do, you know, three cheers for the other 424 00:19:13,350 --> 00:19:15,179 S3: team at the end because you are there technically for 425 00:19:15,180 --> 00:19:18,030 S3: good sportsmanship. Anyway, this is from sorry, long road to 426 00:19:18,030 --> 00:19:20,580 S3: get there. Um, but he says after the other team does. 427 00:19:20,580 --> 00:19:23,010 S3: Three cheers for your team. Uh, if you're the person 428 00:19:23,010 --> 00:19:26,100 S3: that calls out, you call out. All right. And two cheers. 429 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:34,459 S3: So it's from the Hebrew school. It's. It's to show 430 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,760 S3: we're pretending to congratulate you while asserting power. 431 00:19:37,910 --> 00:19:42,200 S6: Love it. This is from Alex. I can't do this, Jack. Hamish, 432 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,169 S6: you can do this. Be it based, not be it based. 433 00:19:46,910 --> 00:19:49,700 S6: Tell me whether you think this would work. If you've 434 00:19:49,700 --> 00:19:53,300 S6: organized a play date for your child with a kid 435 00:19:53,300 --> 00:19:55,730 S6: of a new a new friend. Yep. You haven't met 436 00:19:55,730 --> 00:19:58,700 S6: the parents and that new parent is dropping the kid off. 437 00:19:58,700 --> 00:20:02,030 S3: Okay, drop and go. Usually kicks in around traditionally around about, 438 00:20:02,030 --> 00:20:04,040 S3: you know. Yeah. Six, seven years old before they arrive. 439 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,080 S6: Rip a page out of the coloring book and color 440 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,629 S6: it in your yourself and stick it on the fridge. 441 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,510 S3: That would be a good move when the. 442 00:20:14,750 --> 00:20:16,850 S6: When the parent comments say no big deal. 443 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:22,460 S3: It's fine. Uh, really good. Um, and oh, this comes 444 00:20:22,460 --> 00:20:27,410 S3: in from Meg. Okay. When somebody gives you some flowers 445 00:20:27,410 --> 00:20:29,540 S3: by way of apology. So a small bunch of flowers 446 00:20:29,540 --> 00:20:33,080 S3: could be partner, could be a friend. Um, if they're 447 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,960 S3: trying to patch something up as they've given you the flowers, 448 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,900 S3: take the flowers over to the sink, unwrap them, and 449 00:20:38,900 --> 00:20:42,439 S3: proceed to cut the stems down to about five centimeters long. 450 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,570 S3: Select only a few of the flowers and pop them 451 00:20:44,570 --> 00:20:47,959 S3: in a tiny vase while maintaining the conversation. Do not 452 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:49,639 S3: refer to it in any way and then put them 453 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,740 S3: on the table as a pathetic centerpiece. 454 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,050 S6: From Andruw Jones. If you ever caught sleeping at work, 455 00:21:00,050 --> 00:21:02,690 S6: simply say the blood bank told me this would happen. 456 00:21:07,290 --> 00:21:09,090 S6: An apology and a bit of a well done for 457 00:21:09,090 --> 00:21:10,530 S6: donating blood. Yeah. 458 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:15,300 S3: Um, power move only works if the target's name isn't Billy. Okay, 459 00:21:17,130 --> 00:21:19,170 S3: so this is for, uh. This is for a set 460 00:21:19,170 --> 00:21:22,920 S3: of all humans not equal to Billy. Find a person 461 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,770 S3: you want to exert power over. Start calling them Billy 462 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,700 S3: when they inevitably correct you and say, uh, that's not 463 00:21:29,700 --> 00:21:32,189 S3: their name. I.e., my name is Jack. Just hit them 464 00:21:32,190 --> 00:21:34,530 S3: back with. Oh, no, I'm just saying that because everyone 465 00:21:34,530 --> 00:21:43,889 S3: calls you Billy. It's short for Silly Billy. Hit right. 466 00:21:48,830 --> 00:21:53,840 S3: And a an interesting and serious email has come in 467 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,750 S3: to my side of the fence. Okay. A young man 468 00:21:56,750 --> 00:21:58,070 S3: named Ryan. 469 00:21:58,070 --> 00:22:00,200 S6: Being serious on this show, but I. 470 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,510 S3: Know, and it's quite a long way from it. That's 471 00:22:02,510 --> 00:22:04,520 S3: quite a long. Yeah. That's it. I mean, we're happy 472 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,070 S3: to face up to tackle this, especially if it's something 473 00:22:07,070 --> 00:22:09,709 S3: that a listener is feeling. And I worry that he 474 00:22:09,710 --> 00:22:12,080 S3: might represent the views of many listeners here, too. That's 475 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:13,010 S3: why I think we've got to give it a bit 476 00:22:13,010 --> 00:22:16,790 S3: of air. Um, but he it is serious and it 477 00:22:16,790 --> 00:22:21,260 S3: raises some big stuff. He says, look, he because he 478 00:22:21,260 --> 00:22:24,290 S3: comes it starts by saying, I've got a serious allegation. 479 00:22:24,290 --> 00:22:27,020 S6: You or I or both of us. 480 00:22:27,350 --> 00:22:30,260 S3: Against the show. So that's mainly you, Jack. Really? 481 00:22:31,700 --> 00:22:32,570 S6: Legally, yeah. 482 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,800 S3: We put your name on the form. We do. Um, 483 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,280 S3: in event, in event of allegation, there's a split ownership 484 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:44,270 S3: system in event of praise and awards. Absolutely H and 485 00:22:44,270 --> 00:22:47,750 S3: a on stage gripping the trophy. And in event of 486 00:22:47,750 --> 00:22:50,900 S3: allegation then it does defer to Jack. So it's kind 487 00:22:50,900 --> 00:22:51,350 S3: of for you Jack. 488 00:22:51,710 --> 00:22:54,500 S6: It does make it feel like you're Greg from succession right. 489 00:22:55,580 --> 00:22:59,119 S3: Here a little Greg Litt um, it's in relation to 490 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:00,800 S3: the handling of the H and A coins. So it's 491 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,970 S3: a Treasury issue. Narayan believes the coins have been, quote, 492 00:23:04,970 --> 00:23:09,199 S3: handed out in an arbitrary fashion lately. He says, I 493 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,180 S3: lay out to you an examples from recent episodes. My 494 00:23:11,180 --> 00:23:13,850 S3: concern started from ep 203. The guy who could guess 495 00:23:13,850 --> 00:23:17,240 S3: items in the kitchen got every question wrong except one 496 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,390 S3: about rural Queensland properties. That's true. And that earned him 497 00:23:20,390 --> 00:23:20,840 S3: a coin. 498 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:21,770 S6: Did we give him a coin? 499 00:23:21,770 --> 00:23:24,650 S4: Yeah, I thought that was weird because he he I 500 00:23:24,650 --> 00:23:27,260 S4: remember the cupboard had something real obvious like Andy. 501 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,139 S3: Hidden hands here, Andy, as he worries about the legal 502 00:23:30,140 --> 00:23:36,380 S3: ramifications for Jack. Uh, a concerned a concerned friend who 503 00:23:36,380 --> 00:23:40,280 S3: doesn't like, doesn't like another friend's chances of beating this 504 00:23:40,550 --> 00:23:43,430 S3: in episode 206 with the cordial guy. Hamish and Andy 505 00:23:43,430 --> 00:23:45,890 S3: both agreed that the absolute bare minimum is four out 506 00:23:45,890 --> 00:23:47,540 S3: of five. Then when he gets the first two wrong 507 00:23:47,540 --> 00:23:49,460 S3: in a row and he changes the rules to three 508 00:23:49,460 --> 00:23:52,129 S3: out of five, then during episode seven, the guy with 509 00:23:52,130 --> 00:23:54,290 S3: the special skills to guess the movie did not get 510 00:23:54,290 --> 00:23:58,250 S3: a coin. Despite far superior skills, he guessed the movies correctly. 511 00:23:58,250 --> 00:24:01,310 S3: Hamish then asked 1 or 2, a rule that wasn't 512 00:24:01,310 --> 00:24:04,460 S3: introduced earlier. Um, that was I think that was for. 513 00:24:04,550 --> 00:24:05,360 S6: The movie Guessing. 514 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,790 S3: Game. So what was it? Was it like Austin Powers 515 00:24:07,790 --> 00:24:09,740 S3: or something like powers? Yeah, and I went 1 or 2. 516 00:24:09,830 --> 00:24:10,489 S6: Men in Black as. 517 00:24:10,490 --> 00:24:12,949 S3: Well. Men in black, 1 or 2. Yeah. Anyway, he 518 00:24:12,950 --> 00:24:15,320 S3: got that wrong on the one he got Men in Black, 519 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,119 S3: and then he got it wrong on the 1 or 520 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,810 S3: 2 he says magic Mike. I think he means podcast. Mike, uh, 521 00:24:20,810 --> 00:24:23,780 S3: recognized this, but was dismissed by Andy. 522 00:24:23,900 --> 00:24:25,160 S6: Dismissed. That sounds like. 523 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,160 S3: Top it off, he wasn't given five movies to guess 524 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,830 S3: in the end. Felt like he was robbed. This prompted 525 00:24:30,830 --> 00:24:33,230 S3: me to investigate further. I went all the way back 526 00:24:33,230 --> 00:24:35,119 S3: to the start of the podcast. 527 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:36,169 S6: Wow. 528 00:24:36,170 --> 00:24:38,450 S3: On episode eight of the podcast. 529 00:24:39,290 --> 00:24:39,830 S6: He's gone. 530 00:24:39,830 --> 00:24:43,400 S3: So deep. Both coin guesser and menu guesser got H 531 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,590 S3: and A coins when neither of them deserved it, as 532 00:24:45,590 --> 00:24:47,750 S3: they both were far off thinkers. I do remember that 533 00:24:47,750 --> 00:24:49,670 S3: with the guys like, yeah, what do you say? You 534 00:24:49,670 --> 00:24:51,710 S3: tell me a menu and I'll tell you the price. 535 00:24:51,710 --> 00:24:53,450 S6: Yeah, that's right, that's right, the garlic. 536 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,970 S3: What are the classics? What are the garlic bread undid 537 00:24:55,970 --> 00:24:58,669 S3: him didn't it? This is obviously a great undertaking to 538 00:24:58,670 --> 00:25:00,409 S3: review all the episodes of cases where H and R 539 00:25:00,410 --> 00:25:02,419 S3: coins were handed out, and I believe that I've only 540 00:25:02,420 --> 00:25:05,930 S3: scratched the surface. Oh, well, I think he's onto something big. 541 00:25:05,930 --> 00:25:07,490 S6: I'd like to hush him up. 542 00:25:07,490 --> 00:25:09,830 S3: Yes, I was one of them. That is an option 543 00:25:09,830 --> 00:25:10,610 S3: available to us. 544 00:25:10,609 --> 00:25:17,660 S6: To coin mine. So he says, go away quietly. 545 00:25:17,660 --> 00:25:22,670 S3: Well, he proposes two things, okay. One establishment of an 546 00:25:22,670 --> 00:25:27,650 S3: H and a coin taskforce that's responsible for reviewing questionable 547 00:25:27,650 --> 00:25:29,990 S3: handing out of coins throughout the history of the podcast. 548 00:25:29,990 --> 00:25:33,350 S3: So it's almost like a royal commission. Um, um, hacked. 549 00:25:33,350 --> 00:25:34,520 S6: Off would be the, um. 550 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:35,270 S3: Yeah, actually. 551 00:25:35,630 --> 00:25:37,459 S6: The H and a coin taskforce, but we. 552 00:25:37,460 --> 00:25:40,190 S4: Would never take coins off people we've given them to. Surely. 553 00:25:40,190 --> 00:25:42,620 S3: I think that's what he's saying. Wow. He's looking to 554 00:25:42,619 --> 00:25:46,970 S3: right the wrongs of history. Wow. Um, and then number two, 555 00:25:46,970 --> 00:25:50,000 S3: once the task force report is ready and reviewed by Hamish, Andy, 556 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,450 S3: a mechanism by which H and A coins are recalled. 557 00:25:54,290 --> 00:25:56,179 S6: Whoa! Whoa. 558 00:25:56,270 --> 00:25:59,090 S3: So a two part proposal here. Establish the task force 559 00:25:59,330 --> 00:26:02,630 S3: that then, I guess, prepares a report. And then the 560 00:26:02,630 --> 00:26:05,149 S3: second part is we then look at what we're going 561 00:26:05,150 --> 00:26:07,729 S3: to do with the report. It's interesting here because royal 562 00:26:07,730 --> 00:26:12,080 S3: commissions of course exist in democracies. And I. And the 563 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,800 S3: question for us is how much of a democracy. I mean, 564 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,240 S3: how much power do you give? 565 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,630 S6: We love pretending we're one. Yeah, yeah. Like that's one 566 00:26:20,630 --> 00:26:21,410 S6: of our favorite things. 567 00:26:21,410 --> 00:26:23,239 S4: But I think sometimes even with the government don't they 568 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:24,919 S4: do those kind of reports where they're like, now we 569 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,689 S4: got the report and we'll definitely look at that. 570 00:26:26,690 --> 00:26:29,000 S3: Nothing really. I mean, what happened with the banking one? 571 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:29,990 S3: I don't I don't I. 572 00:26:29,990 --> 00:26:30,830 S6: Didn't that's right. 573 00:26:30,830 --> 00:26:32,960 S3: Pretty sure all the banks are still in business. 574 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:33,680 S6: Yes. 575 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,230 S3: So we could certainly I mean this is banking. This 576 00:26:36,230 --> 00:26:38,570 S3: is finance based. I mean the general vibe of when 577 00:26:38,570 --> 00:26:40,939 S3: you do a finance look into the financial, you know, 578 00:26:40,940 --> 00:26:44,570 S3: any corruption of a financial level, it's the government's job. 579 00:26:44,570 --> 00:26:46,100 S3: And that would be us in this case to nod 580 00:26:46,100 --> 00:26:49,219 S3: solemnly and go, mm. Many, many good points raised. 581 00:26:49,910 --> 00:26:50,330 S6: Yeah. 582 00:26:50,330 --> 00:26:52,880 S3: Yeah, yeah. And then um, just hope the new cycle 583 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,430 S3: washes that one away. But what about, what about. 584 00:26:55,430 --> 00:26:58,429 S6: This I have is narayane sounds like the kind of 585 00:26:58,430 --> 00:27:02,150 S6: guy that would be playing Michael Keaton's character in spotlight. 586 00:27:02,150 --> 00:27:03,950 S6: If you've seen that film where he doesn't. 587 00:27:03,950 --> 00:27:06,020 S3: I haven't, but I know the kind of character Michael 588 00:27:06,020 --> 00:27:07,340 S3: Keaton's able to play. 589 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,400 S6: I don't think he's gonna stop, is my point. He's 590 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:15,170 S6: the Erin Brockovich of the coin situation. 591 00:27:15,170 --> 00:27:17,420 S3: Okay, wait, you know what, Andrew? He's actually listening. He 592 00:27:17,420 --> 00:27:22,790 S3: can join. He can join us now. Narayan, tentatively. Good morning. 593 00:27:23,270 --> 00:27:25,160 S8: Ahoy, boys. It's good to be with you. 594 00:27:25,460 --> 00:27:26,930 S6: Oh, with you. 595 00:27:27,050 --> 00:27:30,530 S3: Now, Narayan. You, sir raised some. I'm not going to 596 00:27:30,530 --> 00:27:34,220 S3: say whether they're valid or invalid, but you certainly raise points. 597 00:27:34,220 --> 00:27:38,000 S3: And I'd like to just get the temperature if I could. 598 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:43,790 S3: First up, of how, um, disgruntled you are with possibly 599 00:27:43,790 --> 00:27:45,050 S3: what you're onto here. 600 00:27:45,380 --> 00:27:49,130 S8: Look, I have had the conversation you boys have been having. 601 00:27:49,130 --> 00:27:52,129 S8: And look, if you want this, use controversy to go away. 602 00:27:52,460 --> 00:27:54,859 S8: You could give me a coin and no one will know. 603 00:27:55,100 --> 00:27:58,580 S8: Never know a thing now. And he would and he would. 604 00:27:58,580 --> 00:28:00,560 S8: He would be the easiest coin that's ever been handed 605 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,179 S8: out on the show. That's the point. 606 00:28:02,180 --> 00:28:03,709 S6: It wouldn't be. It wouldn't be. 607 00:28:03,710 --> 00:28:06,830 S3: It wouldn't even be the loosest coin. Yes. Okay, well, 608 00:28:06,830 --> 00:28:09,320 S3: now we have it. This is certainly an interesting development 609 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,040 S3: because the head of our anti-corruption task force has specifically 610 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,149 S3: asked for a bribe. 611 00:28:14,420 --> 00:28:14,840 S6: As. 612 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,250 S3: His opening statement. 613 00:28:18,410 --> 00:28:22,310 S6: Wonderful. It's. Can we just say. 614 00:28:22,490 --> 00:28:25,190 S3: We're very interested in making this go away? But I 615 00:28:25,190 --> 00:28:27,560 S3: do worry, though, that obviously now more people have heard 616 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,990 S3: this and this this. Now the cat is out of 617 00:28:29,990 --> 00:28:32,119 S3: the bag, Genie's out of the bottle. Someone else is 618 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:33,800 S3: going to take this up? 619 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,810 S6: Yes. Putting her iron on hold for a second. 620 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,040 S3: Thank you. Ryan. Interesting. 621 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,540 S4: I want him to hear it all. 622 00:28:38,540 --> 00:28:41,540 S6: No, don't want him to hear. Okay, so I think 623 00:28:41,540 --> 00:28:42,740 S6: we take the bribe. 624 00:28:43,430 --> 00:28:45,620 S3: No. He's asking. You mean give the bribe? 625 00:28:45,650 --> 00:28:47,090 S6: Yeah. So I think we. 626 00:28:47,270 --> 00:28:49,550 S3: No, no, Ryan, we'll accept the coin. 627 00:28:51,350 --> 00:28:53,450 S6: No, we take them off. We take the. 628 00:28:53,450 --> 00:28:54,770 S3: Offer to give the bribe. 629 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,030 S6: Yeah, right. Yes, yes. 630 00:28:56,060 --> 00:28:58,430 S3: What are you. But what do you say about this? 631 00:28:58,430 --> 00:29:00,890 S3: Just opening an absolute avalanche of people asking for the 632 00:29:00,890 --> 00:29:06,020 S3: same bribe everywhere. Ignored task force. Task force requests coming 633 00:29:06,020 --> 00:29:07,040 S3: in left, right and center. 634 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:08,750 S4: What do you set up, like? An email filter that 635 00:29:08,750 --> 00:29:10,520 S4: looks for the word task force and put it straight 636 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:11,000 S4: in the bin. 637 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,890 S6: That is a good solution. That is a good solution. 638 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,250 S3: This is such a fascinating peek into the how you 639 00:29:19,430 --> 00:29:20,870 S3: run a corrupt government. 640 00:29:20,870 --> 00:29:23,120 S6: I don't think we can set up this task force. 641 00:29:23,210 --> 00:29:24,980 S3: You don't want to. You want to set up a. 642 00:29:25,100 --> 00:29:27,080 S3: We don't have to. You can't. We wouldn't be giving 643 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,110 S3: them royal commission powers. We'd be setting up an advisory 644 00:29:30,110 --> 00:29:30,530 S3: task force. 645 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,650 S6: This is classic. I mean, this is going back to 646 00:29:33,650 --> 00:29:37,010 S6: radio days, where it was all self-regulated. Yeah, and you 647 00:29:37,010 --> 00:29:38,990 S6: don't want another body regulating you. 648 00:29:39,020 --> 00:29:39,320 S3: What about. 649 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,570 S6: Okay, so they'd always go, oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 650 00:29:41,570 --> 00:29:43,940 S6: We'll make sure Kyle Sandilands doesn't say that. We'll be 651 00:29:43,940 --> 00:29:45,620 S6: fine I got it I got it. And then they go. 652 00:29:45,620 --> 00:29:47,090 S3: Why don't we go yeah, yeah we go back and 653 00:29:47,090 --> 00:29:49,250 S3: we go okay, I think I've got it. You want 654 00:29:49,250 --> 00:29:50,480 S3: to go back to Ryan okay. 655 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,280 S4: Yeah okay. He can hear us now? Yeah. 656 00:29:52,820 --> 00:29:53,660 S3: Now. Ryan. 657 00:29:54,260 --> 00:29:55,070 S8: Yes. 658 00:29:55,430 --> 00:29:56,360 S6: Obviously. 659 00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:01,489 S3: Um, we're deeply concerned, um, by the issues you bring up, 660 00:30:01,490 --> 00:30:07,100 S3: because here at, uh, Hamish and Andy, um, headquarters, we 661 00:30:07,100 --> 00:30:12,230 S3: strive to run a transparent and authentic and a consistent 662 00:30:12,230 --> 00:30:15,650 S3: coin giving operation. The last thing we want is for 663 00:30:15,650 --> 00:30:18,350 S3: Jack to be dragged through legal mud. Because there's been 664 00:30:18,350 --> 00:30:22,820 S3: a problem with the coin system. So we really take 665 00:30:22,820 --> 00:30:26,000 S3: this seriously. And because you're the first person to raise 666 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,940 S3: this and raise this concern, we would like to pay 667 00:30:28,940 --> 00:30:33,560 S3: you a consultancy fee for the work you've already done. Um, 668 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,330 S3: of one Hamish and Andy Coin. 669 00:30:35,510 --> 00:30:37,010 S6: And the continued work. 670 00:30:37,010 --> 00:30:39,380 S3: And the continued work you've done since you're the first 671 00:30:39,380 --> 00:30:41,000 S3: person to do this work. Now, if someone else did 672 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,560 S3: this work, they're just copying off you and they don't 673 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,570 S3: get a coin. But since you're the first person to 674 00:30:44,570 --> 00:30:46,820 S3: do this consultancy's work, we'd like to pay you a 675 00:30:46,820 --> 00:30:52,220 S3: fee of one coin, and we'd like to absolutely take 676 00:30:52,220 --> 00:30:57,650 S3: this to conduct a thorough internal review, um, and present 677 00:30:57,650 --> 00:31:00,110 S3: our findings in a few episodes. How does that sound? 678 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,750 S8: I think that sounds fair. That sounds fair. 679 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,350 S6: Great. We will give you that payment in a paper 680 00:31:06,350 --> 00:31:10,340 S6: bag in a car park. Um, it will. 681 00:31:10,340 --> 00:31:14,150 S3: Have the unique coin number scratched off. That's that's just 682 00:31:14,540 --> 00:31:17,180 S3: that's just because of a shipping issue. Nothing to see. 683 00:31:17,180 --> 00:31:21,170 S3: There it is. Totally above board payment sounding good in Orion. 684 00:31:21,380 --> 00:31:22,400 S8: That sounds excellent. 685 00:31:22,910 --> 00:31:26,270 S3: Great pleasure doing business with you. We'll get straight onto 686 00:31:26,270 --> 00:31:28,790 S3: forming the taskforce. I'll chair it. Andy. Great. 687 00:31:35,380 --> 00:31:37,720 S6: It has been but a few weeks since I was 688 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,840 S6: chastised by the two of you, the beard boys, again 689 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:41,680 S6: aligning against me. 690 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,030 S3: I don't know what this is about, but I stand 691 00:31:43,030 --> 00:31:48,190 S3: by whatever we did. We're both just as you again. 692 00:31:48,190 --> 00:31:50,560 S3: If you won't. If you open your mouth, I. 693 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:55,600 S6: Think you're crazy was uttered at me. Um. This wild. 694 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,840 S4: Oh, I bet I know. Is it. Is it the toothpaste? 695 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,420 S4: Tiny amount of toothpaste? It's. I think about it every 696 00:32:01,420 --> 00:32:03,100 S4: time I clean my teeth. I think about you. 697 00:32:03,130 --> 00:32:04,690 S3: Do you know what I do? I put the I 698 00:32:04,690 --> 00:32:06,700 S3: put the toothpaste on at night, and I go. I 699 00:32:06,700 --> 00:32:09,670 S3: look at myself in the mirror and I go, you're living, boy. Yeah. 700 00:32:09,670 --> 00:32:10,900 S4: And I and I. 701 00:32:10,900 --> 00:32:13,180 S3: Go, keep it up, wild man. Keep it up, Blake. 702 00:32:13,180 --> 00:32:16,780 S3: Because you know what? Right now, Andy's in his bathroom. Well, 703 00:32:16,780 --> 00:32:19,180 S3: probably many hours after me. But that, thus is the 704 00:32:19,180 --> 00:32:22,120 S3: joys of no children. Yes, and he's in his bathroom. 705 00:32:22,330 --> 00:32:25,570 S3: He's got one human hair out as a stencil to 706 00:32:25,570 --> 00:32:29,020 S3: make sure. To make sure the toothpaste doesn't. Doesn't rise 707 00:32:29,020 --> 00:32:32,620 S3: above the one micron thickness across the top of the bristles. 708 00:32:32,620 --> 00:32:36,040 S3: And look at you, mate. Squirt it on, slather it around. 709 00:32:36,460 --> 00:32:40,150 S3: Enjoy yourself. You're 41. You'll be dead soon. You don't 710 00:32:40,150 --> 00:32:41,920 S3: regret the toothpaste usage. 711 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,280 S6: I felt like it was the right amount. A lot 712 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,740 S6: of people have come out of the woodwork saying, you're right. 713 00:32:47,740 --> 00:32:50,260 S6: Andy and I got a lot of messages of support. 714 00:32:50,290 --> 00:32:52,270 S6: A lot of emails came in. I thought, what better 715 00:32:52,270 --> 00:32:54,490 S6: way to do it is to get them to record 716 00:32:54,490 --> 00:32:58,600 S6: what they wrote. Exactly. And so you could hear some 717 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,390 S6: of the things that are being said with regards to 718 00:33:01,390 --> 00:33:02,350 S6: toothpaste gate. 719 00:33:02,350 --> 00:33:04,510 S3: Prepare to hear some fun people check. 720 00:33:08,590 --> 00:33:12,100 S9: Mate, I use even less than yours anymore and my 721 00:33:12,100 --> 00:33:14,530 S9: mouth would be overflowing with suds. 722 00:33:14,530 --> 00:33:17,170 S10: I do the same as you Andy. I have a 723 00:33:17,170 --> 00:33:22,390 S10: very extreme dental hygiene routine, but you only need to 724 00:33:22,390 --> 00:33:24,010 S10: use a little bit of toothpaste. 725 00:33:24,010 --> 00:33:27,670 S11: Dentist here. The recommended amount of toothpaste is the size 726 00:33:27,670 --> 00:33:30,820 S11: of a green pea, so Hamish and Jack are using 727 00:33:30,820 --> 00:33:34,360 S11: way too much. You're closer to the right amount. Andy. 728 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:39,220 S9: As a fellow dentist, I 100% agree. Very common man 729 00:33:39,220 --> 00:33:42,940 S9: to be conservative with the toothpaste. Make those dollars stretch. 730 00:33:42,940 --> 00:33:45,460 S12: So my partner actually thought you were crazy at first, 731 00:33:45,460 --> 00:33:48,220 S12: but then he tried it and now he's converted. Like 732 00:33:48,220 --> 00:33:49,690 S12: way less clean up required. 733 00:33:49,690 --> 00:33:51,520 S4: You are 100% correct. 734 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,290 S9: And no one will convince me otherwise. 735 00:33:53,290 --> 00:33:55,570 S1: You are spot on and it is more than enough 736 00:33:55,570 --> 00:33:58,090 S1: to clean your teeth. Only reason it is more in 737 00:33:58,090 --> 00:34:00,040 S1: the ads is because they want you to use it 738 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:04,180 S1: quicker and buy more toothpaste. Same with shampoo and washing detergent. Hey, 739 00:34:04,180 --> 00:34:04,870 S1: you know what else? 740 00:34:04,870 --> 00:34:08,260 S13: Electric toothbrush heads are so small. I think that also 741 00:34:08,260 --> 00:34:10,330 S13: says a lot about the amount that you should use. 742 00:34:10,330 --> 00:34:10,690 S6: I'm a. 743 00:34:10,690 --> 00:34:11,620 S4: Dentist and. 744 00:34:11,620 --> 00:34:12,310 S6: Hamish and Jack's. 745 00:34:12,310 --> 00:34:15,100 S4: Amount is actually a really dangerous amount of toothpaste. 746 00:34:15,250 --> 00:34:16,360 S9: Too much of that. 747 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,880 S4: Can build up a toxin called methyl leonide. 748 00:34:19,090 --> 00:34:20,109 S9: Which could potentially. 749 00:34:20,110 --> 00:34:21,279 S4: Make your teeth like chalk. 750 00:34:21,610 --> 00:34:24,790 S6: I think Andy's using the perfect amount of toothpaste, and 751 00:34:24,790 --> 00:34:26,799 S6: I should also point out that he hasn't lost touch 752 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,930 S6: with the common man, and he certainly doesn't have an 753 00:34:28,930 --> 00:34:33,040 S6: IP if in my opinion, not an SP, but just 754 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:40,270 S6: an RP regular P regretful p. Okay, besides the last one, why. 755 00:34:40,270 --> 00:34:42,100 S3: Do I feel like you know, it was like we're 756 00:34:42,100 --> 00:34:44,110 S3: at a at a at a Donald Trump rally? 757 00:34:44,110 --> 00:34:49,060 S6: Yeah. Besides the last one, all actual words written into 758 00:34:49,060 --> 00:34:51,879 S6: this show or to me. Are you worried about that 759 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,399 S6: dentist saying that you got that dangerous? Toxic? That might 760 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:55,240 S6: be from. 761 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,740 S3: Too much toothpaste? I mean, get your act together. Dentistry. When? 762 00:34:59,739 --> 00:35:02,410 S3: As if. Who's ever heard of that, Jack? I mean, 763 00:35:02,410 --> 00:35:05,770 S3: your dentists have been too busy tickling your feet or 764 00:35:06,910 --> 00:35:10,120 S3: gently blowing on your earlobes to worry about your actual mouth. 765 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:11,890 S6: Did you ask your dentist, Jack? And did he say, 766 00:35:11,890 --> 00:35:12,730 S6: what's toothpaste? 767 00:35:13,090 --> 00:35:16,900 S4: He. He knows about dental hygiene. He what? 768 00:35:20,380 --> 00:35:23,290 S6: Are. What is it? What is your. 769 00:35:23,290 --> 00:35:24,370 S3: Holistic. So you. 770 00:35:24,370 --> 00:35:27,670 S4: He was very. He was very big on flossing. He didn't. 771 00:35:27,670 --> 00:35:30,279 S4: He didn't care too much about, uh, how much toothpaste 772 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:31,810 S4: you use. But I will next time I'm there. I'm 773 00:35:31,810 --> 00:35:33,009 S4: definitely gonna ask. Yeah. 774 00:35:33,010 --> 00:35:35,860 S3: Just chew up a mouthful of crystals or something. 775 00:35:36,670 --> 00:35:38,620 S4: You know, I've had. I don't want to sound like 776 00:35:38,620 --> 00:35:40,180 S4: Andy here, but I've had a lot of people also 777 00:35:40,180 --> 00:35:42,580 S4: write to me and ask for the details of the 778 00:35:42,580 --> 00:35:43,570 S4: holistic dentist. 779 00:35:44,290 --> 00:35:46,090 S6: Guys, let's just turn. 780 00:35:46,090 --> 00:35:46,690 S3: This show. 781 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,080 S6: Into a montage TV show, into fake testimonials. 782 00:35:56,650 --> 00:35:59,410 S3: And a little while ago on the show, uh, we 783 00:35:59,410 --> 00:36:05,170 S3: had a special skill nominated, which was, um, uh, someone 784 00:36:05,170 --> 00:36:06,880 S3: that could feel could tell the type of chocolate bar 785 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,629 S3: just purely by feeling it through the wrapper. Um, and 786 00:36:10,630 --> 00:36:12,640 S3: you sort of put your hand up and went, yeah, 787 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,219 S3: but I think I could do that. And I gave 788 00:36:15,219 --> 00:36:19,660 S3: you a fair and honest trial, and you couldn't quite 789 00:36:19,660 --> 00:36:23,560 S3: do it. You got very close. Um, but to be fair, 790 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,700 S3: through a few logistical issues, I don't I didn't get 791 00:36:27,700 --> 00:36:30,190 S3: some of the A-list chocolate bars I was after. No, no, 792 00:36:30,190 --> 00:36:33,100 S3: I got some more lesser known actors. Yes. 793 00:36:33,100 --> 00:36:34,060 S6: Support bands. 794 00:36:34,390 --> 00:36:36,760 S3: Peppermint crisp. Yeah. Chiquita chick. 795 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,570 S6: Chiquita I hadn't seen for 20 years. They're still gigging. 796 00:36:41,860 --> 00:36:44,529 S3: So jury's out on whether that was fair or not. 797 00:36:44,530 --> 00:36:47,049 S3: But look, another special skill came in this week, and 798 00:36:47,050 --> 00:36:50,020 S3: I looked at it and went, okay, in the similar vein, 799 00:36:50,290 --> 00:36:51,910 S3: this isn't you putting your hand up because you don't 800 00:36:51,910 --> 00:36:55,810 S3: know what this is yet, but I actually. Do. I 801 00:36:55,810 --> 00:36:57,940 S3: looked at this and I went, I think, again, I 802 00:36:57,940 --> 00:37:00,310 S3: think this is one that a normal human could do. Right. 803 00:37:00,580 --> 00:37:03,820 S3: And I nominate Andy as our resident normal human. Yeah. 804 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,710 S3: Comes in from Joanna and she starts off by saying, hey, 805 00:37:08,710 --> 00:37:13,390 S3: I'm a Libra. Okay. So immediately you're like, I know 806 00:37:13,390 --> 00:37:15,460 S3: that's got your attention. And it because if there's one 807 00:37:15,460 --> 00:37:19,420 S3: guy I know that likes star signs, sorry. And she says, 808 00:37:19,420 --> 00:37:22,420 S3: I've got the uncanny ability and very special skill of 809 00:37:22,420 --> 00:37:25,120 S3: being a human scale. This is where you need to 810 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:26,739 S3: know that the sign for the Libra is the I 811 00:37:26,739 --> 00:37:29,080 S3: think it's oh, justice a justice. 812 00:37:29,260 --> 00:37:29,830 S6: Yeah, she's. 813 00:37:29,830 --> 00:37:32,650 S3: Got the scales and the sword. Does she have a sword? 814 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,480 S3: I don't know, maybe that's. Is that Statue of Liberty? 815 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,460 S6: No, no, she doesn't have a sword. Apparently they're shaking 816 00:37:36,460 --> 00:37:38,980 S6: their heads out of here furiously. No, whatever. 817 00:37:38,980 --> 00:37:42,460 S3: Anyway, Libra is a scale. Yeah. Um, so she says 818 00:37:42,460 --> 00:37:44,979 S3: I'm a human scale. So immediately I go, okay, this 819 00:37:44,980 --> 00:37:47,140 S3: is good. Because, remember, one of the very first special 820 00:37:47,140 --> 00:37:50,200 S3: skills was, um, just deli meat by feel. Yes. And 821 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,110 S3: I was like, that's. We loved that one. Yeah. She said, 822 00:37:53,110 --> 00:37:55,390 S3: but this is this is what Joanna means. If you 823 00:37:55,390 --> 00:37:57,550 S3: put two things in each of my hands, I can 824 00:37:57,550 --> 00:37:59,830 S3: act as a scale and tell you which is heavier 825 00:37:59,830 --> 00:38:02,980 S3: by feel. So she's one of those scales that just tips? Yeah, 826 00:38:02,980 --> 00:38:05,620 S3: she's a yoldi scale, which I'd actually never thought of before, 827 00:38:05,620 --> 00:38:07,960 S3: but I guess that is the point of those scales 828 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,049 S3: to go which is heavier. Or do you put 500g 829 00:38:11,050 --> 00:38:12,400 S3: on one side and you just fill it up till 830 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:13,210 S3: it's level? That's what you. 831 00:38:13,210 --> 00:38:14,380 S6: Used to do. Yeah. Gotcha. 832 00:38:14,530 --> 00:38:15,640 S3: That makes my grandparents. 833 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,560 S6: Had one which I loved playing with. But you put 834 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,110 S6: different size weights on one side and then pour your 835 00:38:20,110 --> 00:38:22,930 S6: rice on the other. We had hours of fun. 836 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:28,240 S3: How cool. And these days kids have to put up 837 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,990 S3: with switch. Um, so she's like, if something's 3.2 kilos 838 00:38:31,989 --> 00:38:35,350 S3: and something's three, I can detect the heavier. Mm. I'm 839 00:38:35,350 --> 00:38:37,030 S3: just a human scale, she repeats. 840 00:38:37,210 --> 00:38:38,020 S6: Can we all do that? 841 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:39,100 S4: I thought so. 842 00:38:39,130 --> 00:38:41,440 S3: I wondered if this is actually just more of a 843 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:46,390 S3: human trait. Yes. Um. So she's gone. Look, my husband 844 00:38:46,390 --> 00:38:48,339 S3: thinks I'm an idiot for my special skill, but I 845 00:38:48,340 --> 00:38:50,080 S3: know it's the best in the world. 846 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:50,800 S6: What's not? 847 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,730 S3: And again, I was just like, I think I'm not 848 00:38:54,730 --> 00:38:58,870 S3: taking away any instances where she correctly called it. And 849 00:38:58,870 --> 00:39:02,020 S3: there was and someone was impressed nearby, but I don't 850 00:39:02,020 --> 00:39:03,669 S3: know if it would qualify as a special skill. We 851 00:39:03,670 --> 00:39:07,180 S3: could be wrong. So to run the test, Ando, bring 852 00:39:07,180 --> 00:39:08,680 S3: in the bags I have. 853 00:39:08,830 --> 00:39:13,090 S4: What were the, uh, sizes? She used the dimensions 3 854 00:39:13,090 --> 00:39:13,930 S4: to 3.2. 855 00:39:13,930 --> 00:39:16,990 S3: I've gone actually a little bit harsher for Ando here. 856 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:17,620 S3: If she was. 857 00:39:17,620 --> 00:39:19,870 S4: Doing like grams, then you go. Yeah, great. You got 858 00:39:19,870 --> 00:39:21,339 S4: something that was three grams more, but. 859 00:39:21,340 --> 00:39:22,359 S6: But 200g. 860 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:23,830 S4: More. That feels considerable. 861 00:39:23,830 --> 00:39:27,490 S3: Significant 200 is a significant. Yes. Again, to not to. 862 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,650 S3: I want us to not just always bring everything back 863 00:39:29,650 --> 00:39:33,069 S3: to chocolate bars, but that's for Snickers. Like you could 864 00:39:33,070 --> 00:39:35,979 S3: you could tell. So. All right Ando, you've now you've 865 00:39:35,980 --> 00:39:37,570 S3: got grapes, you've got rice. 866 00:39:37,900 --> 00:39:39,640 S6: Grapes and you've got ham. 867 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:43,090 S3: Yep. Okay. Make sure you pick it up in the 868 00:39:43,090 --> 00:39:46,480 S3: correct order. Yes. Um, but with your left and right hand, 869 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,000 S3: please pick up the grapes now and tell me what 870 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,050 S3: you feel. 871 00:39:50,739 --> 00:39:53,169 S4: And he's picking up grapes. Two bags of grape. One 872 00:39:53,170 --> 00:39:56,830 S4: in his left, one in his right. He's actually making 873 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:58,780 S4: like he's pretending he's a scale. 874 00:39:58,780 --> 00:40:00,879 S6: Actually, I'm gonna put them on top of my hand 875 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,850 S6: rather than having them. Yeah, that will kind of. 876 00:40:04,060 --> 00:40:06,280 S3: That's actually a pretty smart idea, isn't it? Because the 877 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:07,509 S3: hands are more sensitive. 878 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,210 S6: I think the left is is heavier. 879 00:40:14,860 --> 00:40:18,460 S3: Left is 300g. The right is 330. 880 00:40:18,489 --> 00:40:20,109 S4: Oh, wow. 881 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,379 S6: It. I found it very tough. 882 00:40:24,190 --> 00:40:25,510 S3: But okay. 883 00:40:25,510 --> 00:40:27,580 S6: If she could do it within I mean 30g in 884 00:40:27,580 --> 00:40:27,790 S6: a lot. 885 00:40:27,790 --> 00:40:34,060 S3: That was 30g. That was, that was. That's 10%. 10% variance. Yes. Okay. 886 00:40:34,270 --> 00:40:38,020 S3: Do the ham for me now. Okay. Ham left and right. 887 00:40:38,020 --> 00:40:41,770 S4: Ham getting the ham is in the bag and Andy 888 00:40:41,770 --> 00:40:45,910 S4: is pretending he's a scale. Thank you. Jack. 889 00:40:46,090 --> 00:40:47,620 S3: Jack, a lot of people like you. 890 00:40:47,620 --> 00:40:48,160 S6: Think. 891 00:40:48,310 --> 00:40:52,060 S3: Like, what's Jack's superpower? You just saw it, like, again. 892 00:40:52,060 --> 00:40:54,190 S3: Just detected the pause, jumped in. 893 00:40:54,190 --> 00:40:59,410 S6: Do you think that, um, tennis players couldn't do this 894 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,180 S6: because they have. 895 00:41:01,570 --> 00:41:03,730 S3: Overdeveloped biceps. 896 00:41:03,730 --> 00:41:05,410 S6: And one arm like you? Can they. 897 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,560 S3: But do they have I mean, they have incredible senses, 898 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,060 S3: you would think in their hands, like, even just to 899 00:41:10,060 --> 00:41:12,940 S3: feel the and sometimes the slightest change of the racket. 900 00:41:12,940 --> 00:41:14,620 S4: Would you say when they grab a tennis ball and 901 00:41:14,620 --> 00:41:16,660 S4: they sort of like almost they do do it up 902 00:41:16,660 --> 00:41:18,370 S4: in their hand like, no, not that one. They get 903 00:41:18,370 --> 00:41:18,940 S4: a new one. 904 00:41:18,940 --> 00:41:20,590 S3: Yeah, they actually do do it. That's what I thought 905 00:41:20,590 --> 00:41:20,979 S3: you were getting. 906 00:41:20,980 --> 00:41:23,860 S6: Based that I think it's a squeeze for pressure maybe. 907 00:41:23,860 --> 00:41:25,510 S3: I always thought it was just chemistry tests. Like the 908 00:41:25,510 --> 00:41:26,320 S3: first date. Yeah. 909 00:41:26,350 --> 00:41:27,400 S4: Like, were you vibing it? 910 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:28,870 S3: Yeah, I'm vibing this ball. 911 00:41:29,980 --> 00:41:33,670 S6: Okay, back to the ham. This seems again really close. 912 00:41:35,860 --> 00:41:38,350 S6: I mean, I can't do anything with I can't tell 913 00:41:38,350 --> 00:41:42,530 S6: you with confidence here. So it's. I feel like it's 914 00:41:42,530 --> 00:41:43,550 S6: exactly the same. 915 00:41:44,770 --> 00:41:50,710 S3: Left 110g, right 100g. So again a 1010 or it's 916 00:41:50,710 --> 00:41:53,680 S3: ten grams. That was 10% variance I was going for. 917 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,989 S3: I mean, that'd be too easy if I was doing big, 918 00:41:55,989 --> 00:41:57,549 S3: big numbers. Okay. But she. 919 00:41:57,550 --> 00:41:58,960 S4: Said what did she say three. 920 00:41:59,350 --> 00:42:01,930 S3: Three and 3.2 I actually made Andy's a bit harder 921 00:42:01,930 --> 00:42:06,160 S3: because I just thought that sounded too easy. Well yeah. Okay. Yeah. Rice. 922 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,860 S4: And he's got two big plastic bags of rice. Thank you. 923 00:42:11,860 --> 00:42:20,879 S6: Jaco the rice. It feels definitely heavier in my right hand. 924 00:42:21,540 --> 00:42:26,580 S3: That is 50g heavier, 1000g place 1050. 925 00:42:26,610 --> 00:42:27,270 S4: Well done Andy. 926 00:42:27,270 --> 00:42:29,790 S6: Maybe the that one, that one. I felt like I 927 00:42:29,790 --> 00:42:30,540 S6: could tell maybe. 928 00:42:30,570 --> 00:42:32,280 S3: Is it something to do with the shape of. Because 929 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,050 S3: like rice sits the easiest? 930 00:42:34,050 --> 00:42:35,969 S6: Well, it's also the biggest difference. 931 00:42:35,969 --> 00:42:38,700 S4: And they're so light. They other ones are so light. 932 00:42:38,700 --> 00:42:41,190 S3: So okay so once it got to 50g you could 933 00:42:41,190 --> 00:42:42,180 S3: feel it. It felt. 934 00:42:42,180 --> 00:42:43,440 S6: Yeah. Well that's what you would think. 935 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,739 S3: You would think 200g is fillable. I should have actually 936 00:42:46,739 --> 00:42:47,430 S3: got you hers. 937 00:42:47,430 --> 00:42:50,339 S4: But yeah. Yeah that would have made. That would have 938 00:42:50,340 --> 00:42:51,060 S4: made sense. 939 00:42:51,180 --> 00:42:51,660 S14: Well Jack. 940 00:42:53,940 --> 00:42:57,420 S3: Jack, I gambled, okay? I gambled because I thought it 941 00:42:57,420 --> 00:43:00,270 S3: would be cool. Okay. Actually, Carl's I assume we've got 942 00:43:00,270 --> 00:43:01,530 S3: scales here. Do we have scales here? We've got. 943 00:43:01,530 --> 00:43:03,930 S6: Scales here. Yeah, yeah. We got. Yeah. 944 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,330 S3: All right, go take the rice outside and make it 945 00:43:06,330 --> 00:43:08,460 S3: so it's a 200 gram difference. Oh, yeah. 946 00:43:08,460 --> 00:43:09,030 S6: Okay. 947 00:43:09,030 --> 00:43:09,810 S3: Do you know what I mean? Like it. 948 00:43:09,810 --> 00:43:10,710 S6: Doesn't, but we. 949 00:43:10,710 --> 00:43:11,910 S4: Know you can do rice already. 950 00:43:11,910 --> 00:43:14,460 S3: Yeah I know, but Jack. Well I'm the one saying 951 00:43:14,460 --> 00:43:17,700 S3: I think he's done better because he's detected 50g difference. 952 00:43:17,700 --> 00:43:19,410 S6: In the meantime, while we just give her a bit 953 00:43:19,410 --> 00:43:23,160 S6: of time to do the rice. Um, during the week, 954 00:43:23,430 --> 00:43:27,570 S6: two people said to me, g'day, Hamish. Right. I'm thinking 955 00:43:27,570 --> 00:43:31,379 S6: that I was Hamish. Yeah. And there was and it 956 00:43:31,380 --> 00:43:33,450 S6: was in two very different situations. 957 00:43:33,450 --> 00:43:35,489 S4: Okay. Does that happen often happens. 958 00:43:35,489 --> 00:43:36,180 S6: Bit one. 959 00:43:36,300 --> 00:43:37,320 S3: Yeah, I get it. I get Andy's. 960 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,830 S6: One was at the, um, uh, airport, uh, one of 961 00:43:40,830 --> 00:43:42,960 S6: the security guards. Oh, great to see you, Hamish. I 962 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,440 S6: was like, yeah, well, I'll take it. Like, do a. 963 00:43:46,860 --> 00:43:49,170 S4: Great time to do a crime. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 964 00:43:49,170 --> 00:43:50,760 S3: What was it, a strip club where Andy was going 965 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,219 S3: around saying, I'm. How are you going? Hamish? Hamish Blake, 966 00:43:53,219 --> 00:43:54,060 S3: good to meet you. 967 00:43:54,690 --> 00:43:59,670 S6: It made me think. That the Andes sightings that you've 968 00:43:59,670 --> 00:44:02,279 S6: been having people write in about. 969 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:03,240 S4: Could be mistakes. 970 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,940 S6: Might be about. Could be about Hamish. 971 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,790 S3: You think so? But then you hear the behaviour and 972 00:44:08,790 --> 00:44:12,299 S3: Jack and I immediately go, That's Andy. 973 00:44:12,420 --> 00:44:14,820 S4: Like, what about the person smoking a cigarette at the, uh, 974 00:44:15,150 --> 00:44:15,779 S4: at the tobacco. 975 00:44:15,780 --> 00:44:20,610 S3: Pushing, rushing into the smoke Mark? I've never been single 976 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:25,080 S3: in my life. Well, that's why your nicknames Weaver. Brando. 977 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:26,670 S3: That's why everyone's calling you the weaver. 978 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,170 S6: Sigourney Weaver. 979 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:40,230 S14: I hope that name catches on if people call you 980 00:44:40,230 --> 00:44:45,930 S14: the weaver. We got the weasel and the weaver. Anyway, 981 00:44:45,930 --> 00:44:50,280 S14: the rice is coming back in. It was a good 982 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:51,330 S14: little interlude. 983 00:44:51,750 --> 00:44:53,790 S6: And we'll get back to the game. 984 00:44:54,690 --> 00:44:55,770 S14: Oh, I forgot about that. Nice. 985 00:44:56,219 --> 00:44:57,960 S6: A nice little moment of levity. 986 00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,370 S14: Before we get that. 987 00:44:59,850 --> 00:45:01,230 S3: Fun to have a laugh in the commentary. 988 00:45:01,230 --> 00:45:01,560 S14: Box. 989 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,339 S3: Okay, end of the game. Here we go. There is 990 00:45:05,340 --> 00:45:08,640 S3: now a 200 gram deficiency or differential. 991 00:45:09,690 --> 00:45:10,529 S6: Oh, yeah. 992 00:45:10,530 --> 00:45:13,050 S14: Yeah, yeah. 993 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:14,250 S3: Easy. 994 00:45:14,250 --> 00:45:16,859 S6: Yeah, yeah. That's left left hand side. Yeah. She's just 995 00:45:17,010 --> 00:45:18,060 S6: thumbs up. No worries. 996 00:45:18,060 --> 00:45:22,680 S3: Leave it to Weaver. She'll get it. I don't think 997 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,410 S3: it's impressive enough. Is it, Ender. Well done. You got 50. 998 00:45:25,410 --> 00:45:28,560 S6: It's not impressive enough to be a special skill. But 999 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,630 S6: we did have some fun. 1000 00:45:35,150 --> 00:45:38,540 S2: Thanks for listening. The Hamish and Andy podcast will return 1001 00:45:38,540 --> 00:45:42,440 S2: next week. Catch up or contribute at Hamish and Andy. Com.