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S3: Ahoy, Timmy Akaka. Hamish.
S4: Oh, God bless you. Hey.
S3: Ahoy, Timmy. Second Jack.
S5: Ahoy. It's not third, so I'll take it.
S4: It's not safe. It's not. It's not first, and it's
S4: not six. We know who might be first.
S3: No, I'm the partner.
S4: Oh, okay.
S5: Okay.
S4: You guys. So we've got a partner, a second and
S4: a catcher. What workplace are we in? I thought, which
S4: would never be said.
S3: You guys would know, but I wouldn't know.
S4: Right. We'd almost never be said by anyone in a workplace.
S4: You never go. Right. So we've got the jib rocker,
S4: the carpenter and the Sparky. Who are we and what
S4: workplace we? Uh, I don't. I don't know what that
S4: is like. Is it a business thing? Do you mean actuary?
S3: No. No. Do you mean.
S4: Acupuncturist? Yes. Are you bad at reading today?
S3: No. No. I hope I pronounce it correctly, but it's the.
S4: Oh, is it boxing?
S3: No, it's. It's something that you guys have both. You've
S3: gone through it twice. Him required this. You've only required
S3: it once.
S4: You're right. Okay. Childbirth anaesthetist.
S5: Oh. Is it something in the in the delivery room.
S3: Well the midwife directly catching the baby is referred to
S3: as the akasha apparently.
S4: Yeah, right. We just called out.
S3: Sharon avoided my Sharon.
S4: Sorry we couldn't afford a French birth.
S3: And so I was the partner. As in, like, you know.
S5: You're the fucking partner.
S4: And the second you're the second is just in case
S4: there was paternity questions. The second the second is also
S4: welcome in the suite, but they're the less likely father. Well,
S4: I believe it's the second. I didn't have a second
S4: in mind. Thank God. Did you have a second for yours, Jack?
S5: No, I was the only one in there, but it
S5: was Covid time, so maybe they were being strict about this.
S4: So, guys, you're going to have to pick one because
S4: we know allowed seconds in the.
S3: Second midwife that comes in to scribe and gather things
S3: in case of emergency. But maybe you guys had some
S3: smooth sailing.
S5: Don't even remember the scribe. Really? So someone take a minute? Yeah,
S5: I don't think so. I'm sitting there just.
S3: Typing away.
S4: Going. Grunt, grunt, grunting, grunting, breathing, swearing, grunting.
S3: Being.
S4: Helpful, holding hands. Ouch, ouch, ouch. You're holding my hand
S4: too tight from the husband. No. You know, these are
S4: all legitimate names. The problem is they end like when
S4: you're in the birthing suite. They don't tell us anything.
S4: The husbands are like we are. We barely outrank the lamp.
S4: It's just like you. You are useless in there. Yeah.
S4: I was trying to feed so strong that I'd made it.
S3: What you told me.
S4: We bought in trail mix because I'm like, Honey, you're
S4: about to undergo the hardest endurance event of your life.
S4: I had electrolytes, grog, and I was. I was on
S4: snacks and mood. I had mood lighting songs and snacks
S4: as well. Honestly, there's nothing else. You're not part of
S4: it as far like, you're welcome to be there, but
S4: you have no medical importance. So they would then they
S4: wouldn't even go, Oh, hi, I'm the Akaka. This is
S4: the second that's wasted time talking to the dad. Just
S4: wasted time. Yes. When you're in the process of bringing
S4: a baby out. So we definitely met him. Yeah, but
S4: we weren't. We weren't deemed relevant enough to give them
S4: to get their titles.
S3: Understood. Hoi also to Tom from Cambridge over in the UK.
S4: Tell me, boy.
S6: Ahoy, boys. Happy birthday, Andy. This is Tom from Cambridge,
S6: a strong ambassador, having managed to get a few overseas
S6: listeners over here for you, one of whom I'd be
S6: remiss not to shout out poker chips. Mitch, I bet
S6: you thought you'd never hear me on here. Power move
S6: achieved anyway. Outrageous that you guys ask us VIPs to
S6: essentially leave you a voice note for every episode and
S6: then sting us with that song about how we're all twats.
S6: But don't worry, not upset, just disappointed. Have a great
S6: show lads. Catches.
S3: He does make a point.
S4: Good point.
S3: Few weeks ago we did say that we didn't want
S3: voice notes and it is something that we've asked everyone
S3: to do in any easy to use upload system.
S4: Tommy's come on there and burned us a beauty and
S4: managed to get a jab into Pokey chips. Mitch Really?
S4: He's walking away with a kill count of four from four.
S3: Very, very good take from Tom. Hey, I wanted to
S3: kick off today. With an experiment.
S4: That we're all about science on this show.
S3: I'm about to give you guys something you'll have.
S4: You've given me a sealed up tote bag.
S3: Two things you'll get. I'll do it now. Jack, I'm
S3: passing you.
S5: I'm getting some time.
S3: Passing you toothpaste and toothbrush. Okay. Thank you, guys. I've.
S3: Being accused by Beck for not putting the right amount
S3: of toothpaste on or to.
S5: Great question because you never get to see what anyone else.
S4: This would hurt Andy because he would have thought he
S4: had the perfect system. I wouldn't be surprised if Andy
S4: gets the curl every time. You know, the the one that.
S5: They.
S4: Had, which I've never successfully achieved. But I would be
S4: surprised if you I wouldn't be surprised if you got it.
S3: So what I wanted for us all to do now.
S4: We get these toothbrushes.
S3: Yes.
S4: Free toothbrush. Yeah.
S5: Yeah. I always need a changeover to happy about that.
S4: Don't you wait until your dentist finds out about this.
S4: He's probably doing a science for you right now.
S5: Now, what happens when I. When my toothbrush goes too
S5: long and I'm like, I've got to. I've got to
S5: change that. But I always forget. Now I go, All right,
S5: I'm throwing it out, which will force me to go
S5: to the shops and get a new one. But sometimes.
S4: Five nights of no.
S5: Brushing, sometimes I'll get to the nighttime. I'll go walk.
S5: I'm not going to go to the shops now. It's dark. Hey, Jacob.
S3: I've got a treat for you. Change your toothbrush. Bead. Toothbrush.
S5: Me.
S3: Brush, mead, brush.
S4: All right. Start with the old one. And then halfway
S4: through to a pit stop on new tires, right? Yeah. Okay. Oh,
S4: the pace.
S3: And the feet. Like you get the direct comparison. It's.
S5: It's a it's a real. It's a.
S3: Great point. It's a great way to feel grateful and
S3: appreciate the new brush.
S4: So you turn it into a treat.
S3: Yep. Cos I'd like you all to put what you
S3: would the amount of toothpaste you'd normally put on and
S3: then we'll show each other.
S4: Is this before. I mean usually I put toothpaste on,
S4: then I'm either talking to the kids or something. I
S4: put the toothbrush down, it drops, it pulls on the bench.
S4: So this is before the drop? Yes. Before the I
S4: would say more than half the time I'm brushing with toothpaste.
S4: That's hit the bench or the sink.
S3: No, this is your anticipated once you put it on
S3: what you were going for.
S5: And were you always go toothpaste straight to mouth or
S5: do you add a little bit of water, add a
S5: little bit of.
S4: Water? And I would do normally because I was trying
S4: to get the curl, I've got to stretch.
S5: Well, that wasn't the experiment. I know. I know. Okay.
S4: Okay.
S3: I'm short yours. Look. Okay.
S4: I think that's actually more than I would normally do
S4: when you think about it, when I'm. Because I was
S4: actually trying to mimic a toothpaste.
S3: Ad, You don't.
S4: That is too.
S3: Much. It's way too much.
S5: The ad you don't actually need that much.
S4: I've actually never thought about that. That's way too much way.
S3: Too much on the ads. And of course, they're going
S3: to say that because they want you to buy a new.
S4: Be happy if it was one squirt per tube. Yeah.
S4: What they want if.
S3: They if they I don't think they had things on
S3: the back.
S4: Of a tube. It's a really common thing on companies
S4: where they're like, you know, you know, have this, have
S4: this drink, you know, vitamin C drink or whatever, or
S4: like an electrolyte drink, you know, try and have 3
S4: or 4 servings a day. Um, really get you burning
S4: for it like Weet-Bix. Yeah. Try to do 12 or
S4: 15 trying to try it. Don't eat it for more
S4: than three meals a day. But that would suit us
S4: if you were, if you were eating that much.
S3: Hamish looks hold up yours Jack Hamish and Jack's look
S3: very similar.
S5: This mine is only half full. I would say. Wow. Andy,
S5: what are you doing? Come on. You can't even see it.
S4: It's this, mate. You're not camping. What are you doing?
S5: I will describe. That is, you know how a toothbrush
S5: naturally has, like, little mountains on it for the brushes,
S5: it doesn't even get above the tallest mountain.
S4: Yeah. If that was a ski field, you wouldn't go
S4: out that day. We didn't get enough coverage last night.
S4: That's a dusting. That's like a light. A light season dusting.
S3: I don't think you need more. Like, have you tried this?
S3: This is. This is.
S5: It Wouldn't even be minty in the mouth.
S3: Yeah, There's enough.
S4: Meaning in an old toothbrush. You'd be tasting more oldness
S4: the newness. Like it's not enough to clean the bristles
S4: like your teeth. That's why I was.
S3: So high.
S5: So shocked.
S4: Mine is doing all right.
S5: Doing what you're doing.
S3: Okay. Find a three millimeter line across the top. That's all.
S3: I think that's all you need in your stacking. Yours.
S3: I reckon most of that just travels straight into your
S3: gums as soon as you go.
S5: No, no, it makes it lather.
S4: Yeah, It's like a like like in Spain where they
S4: have foam parties. Like, that's. That's. It's a dance floor
S4: in there. Yeah. You've got the amount, you know the tooth.
S4: You go to the dentist. Sorry Jack. Regular dentist. Have
S4: been to medical school. Yeah. When you go there he's.
S5: He's a doctor.
S4: He's a holistic not holistic ones who were told by
S4: a dreamcatcher they should become a dentist. But when they
S4: do that when a normal genders they do a little polish.
S4: At the end they sort of smudge a tiny that's
S4: what you've got that amount as the clean, you've got
S4: the polish amount.
S3: I think that's all you need.
S5: I you must see the ads then because that is
S5: 1/100 of what they put on the ad.
S4: You're treating it like food dye in icing. We need
S4: like one drop to make pink icing. Try it.
S3: Start just peeling. No, no.
S4: I don't have time to be so sad tonight. I
S4: don't have time to go in and re clean afterwards.
S4: Far out.
S3: I mean, maybe I'm.
S4: What do you think? I mean, you must look at
S4: this and go. That's. That's a week's.
S3: Worth. I feel like you're wasting it. I feel like
S3: I said. I said at the back.
S4: I said back. It's in the mouth. It's not a waste.
S3: But. Well, you could ration it better because I think
S3: the same is being done.
S4: Are you resting it for me? You're doing okay. It's
S4: actually not the depression.
S5: It's kind of impressive, the dexterity that it would have had.
S5: You had to get such a little amount out from
S5: one squeeze.
S3: Well, the other. Have you.
S4: Ever tried have you ever if you put this much
S4: on mine, would you would you scrape some back.
S5: Into the.
S3: Tube? No, but I would say. Becca, are you ready? Oh.
S5: Wow.
S4: You come here and have my dregs.
S3: But the other part that I do like, technically technique
S3: is look at my top of my lid.
S5: Yeah. Not. Not there's nothing else.
S3: So I wipe off the top of the lid cleanly.
S3: Snap back.
S5: Yeah. It's like. It's like a brand new tube.
S4: Yeah. I'm actually not losing too much sleep at night
S4: worrying about the state of my lid back in the bathroom.
S4: But do we take this further? Because, like you, obviously,
S4: you open mouth kiss back, right? So you've got no
S4: problems sharing saliva. I've done that. Would you like. Obviously
S4: the toothpaste isn't going anywhere. Would you brush your teeth
S4: then spit that into her mouth? So. Well we're not
S4: far off.
S5: Oh, yeah. She could she take a normal amount and
S5: then you get.
S4: It into.
S3: Your. Yes. No, no.
S4: It's still doing its job. It's just spitting. Just spitting toothpaste.
S4: Both things you've admitted you love.
S3: Hey, haven't played this for a while. I've missed it.
S3: So let's get into it. Give me With your best chance.
S7: Not a year away. Chit chat champion.
S3: If you think you're the best at small talk, we've
S3: got an arena for you to show your skills.
S4: And boy, oh boy, don't. A lot of people think
S4: they're the best at small talk. And we put it
S4: down to the fact that when you listen to this,
S4: it's got to be the most commonly thought. I could
S4: do that.
S3: Yeah, I.
S4: Could do that. Like some of the special skills. You're
S4: not going I could name every Oscar winner, not every category.
S4: That's not one that you often go, I could do that.
S4: But with champions there is a real element guy. I
S4: could do that. But as we know on the big stage, yes,
S4: it can. The pressure can be immense.
S3: If you're a new listener, welcome. By all means. We
S3: always suggest you go back to the start. But the
S3: way this works is we will start a conversation between
S3: Hamish and I and then it's the job of the
S3: Contender to jump in with the next line of conversation.
S3: They cannot ask a question. Yeah, they just have to
S3: keep the ball of the conversation. Ball in the air.
S4: It's the hardest kind of chat. This is probably what
S4: we don't highlight enough because we we we do obviously,
S4: and are united to make it fair between both contestants.
S4: We know what we're about to say.
S3: We say the exact same conversation. So yeah.
S4: So they have the exact same data. We we do
S4: make it you know, it's a it's a high pressure
S4: conversation to enter because you can't help but feel like
S4: it's actually it's not even chit chat. It's coming into
S4: a conversation to try and make a good impression with
S4: your first move. That is a hard thing to do,
S4: especially when we take away the advantage of questions.
S3: Exactly. Phoebe joins us. Phoebe, ahoy to you.
S8: Ahoy, boys.
S3: How are you? Phoebe, wait. Well, you reached out to
S3: us and said that you would like to participate in
S3: chit chat champions. What makes you a good small talker.
S8: I hope. Well, I am the youngest of four girls,
S8: so a lot to chat to. Had to make my
S8: presence known as the fourth child. And I'm also an
S8: OT student and occupational therapy student, so lots of chat
S8: going on in you.
S4: Yeah, that's true. So a lot of new. And then
S4: when you get into occupational therapy, you know, you patients
S4: all the time so a lot. Exactly. Small talk. Yeah.
S3: And a variety of patients I'd say. So you can
S3: go old. You can go young males. Females.
S8: Exactly.
S4: Yeah. Got to play the full body for anything really.
S4: When you're the youngest sibling though, do you is that
S4: chat or are you asking a lot of questions and
S4: trying to weasel into a lot of situations like.
S8: Jack, I'm a bit of a weasel when it comes
S8: to a lot of things like Flat for it's really
S8: like fighting to have the first shower at the front
S8: and have the front seat of the car.
S4: The corn chip sponsorship. Exactly.
S3: Exactly.
S5: I think a weasel is a fighter. Well pointed out.
S3: Baby, baby. Thank you. Against Phoebe today is my joy
S3: to you.
S9: I hope you boys.
S3: And what makes you great at small talk.
S9: Well, funnily enough, I'm actually a health care worker as well.
S9: I'm a midwife, so I think that. Yeah, Phoebe and
S9: I have a lot in common. And I'm the youngest
S9: of five but have four older brothers.
S3: You're an actual.
S9: Yes, an Acacia. That's correct. That's how you say.
S3: Yeah. We were wondering. Yeah.
S9: A flair in the pronunciation there. But yeah.
S3: Cuzshe. It was tough. I looked at it and I
S3: was trying to go phonetically. Yeah. Okay. Would that have
S3: helped Jack? Or if I'd said Acacia, would you have known.
S4: What I'm name? I know what that is. Yeah, an
S4: Acacia is all right.
S3: We're going to put em on hold, and we'll start
S3: with Phoebe. You'll both get the exact same conversation. Your
S3: job is to feel it out. See, when you jump in,
S3: can't ask a question, but continue the conversation. Are you
S3: ready to go, Phoebe?
S10: Yep.
S3: Good luck. Hey. Hi, Matt. I just wondered, did you
S3: end up buying that compound bow?
S4: Not yet. I want to make sure I get the
S4: right one. The right brand.
S8: Mm Yeah. Brands are always iffy thing because like you
S8: don't want. So I'm always a bit of a cheapskate
S8: and I want to get something that's not going to
S8: be as expensive, but like I still want it to
S8: be good. So I really get that because you don't
S8: really want to buy a bad brand. I've got.
S3: Yeah, Maybe you feel like you ain't good.
S8: No, probably. Yeah, but not the best. Not the greatest.
S3: Well, I mean, when I ask you that question, you
S3: can jump straight in and you're back to talking normally, but.
S3: But it seemed like you were answering and a miss
S3: Universe competition. It's a better question. World peace. You have
S3: nothing to no idea about. I'll tell you what I like.
S8: I had to kind of figure out what a compound was. Yes.
S8: It was like, I know. I know that ham likes camping,
S8: so it was like probably a bit like that. Yeah.
S4: Hunting, camping, I suppose. It's that thing where you go,
S4: we all know saying nothing is bad. So the, the
S4: opposite of that is getting a lot of words in
S4: the air. Just start giving. Just start getting them out
S4: there and then maybe assemble them into a thread. And
S4: I think that's what you're trying to do. And I
S4: think you did great. You probably just.
S3: Seemed like a long sentence to me.
S4: Covered off in a long sentence. You basically communicated the
S4: idea that good brands are good, bad brands are bad.
S4: Wasting money is bad. Getting good. Am I wrong?
S3: Good. You're wrong.
S4: You're actually not wrong. So you do get points for that.
S3: Well done. There's always two competitors. You've you've registered your go.
S3: Let's put her on hold and bring back Am you there?
S9: I am.
S3: Yep. You ready to go?
S9: I'm ready.
S3: Okay. Good luck.
S11: Hey. How are you?
S4: Oh, hey, panda.
S3: Mate. Just winning. Did you end up buying that compound bow?
S4: Not yet. Still shopping around. Want to get the right one?
S4: The right brand?
S9: Guys. I know that we just met, but I've got
S9: a confession for you. I actually don't know anything about
S9: compound boys, but I'm. I'm eager to learn, you know, like,
S9: do you have anything that you want to share with mean?
S3: This is interesting. I think.
S4: Bright Christian brave.
S3: To acknowledge you knew nothing about it. And I think
S3: that's where people sometimes get stuck. They feel like they
S3: have to add where you can it's it's okay in
S3: a conversation to go. I don't know what you guys
S3: talking about.
S9: So honesty. Hey guys got got to put it out there.
S4: Hey, no, it can only be honest. No one can
S4: have a go at you for being honest. Oh, that's
S4: certainly bubbling.
S3: Certainly fine. Bubbly.
S4: I mean, right until. Until the question. The question is
S4: the only thing where there's a bit of a flag
S4: on the plan. Now, the refs are looking at it.
S3: Jack.
S4: You're always you're always a question.
S5: A question. You can't you can't.
S3: We have to disqualify on technicality. I think your entry
S3: was better. But Phoebe, miraculously, you have taken.
S8: Out love that.
S3: This is the best Stephen Bradbury type win of all time.
S4: Oh.
S9: I can't wait to listen to Phoebe's.
S4: Okay.
S3: I can't wait to listen to it back.
S4: I hope you've got some time. Oh, gosh, what a sight.
S4: And Arvo.
S3: Thank you. Thank you guys so much for playing. Phoebe.
S3: We're going to send you a token of no value,
S3: of course, for taking away the win. We don't attribute
S3: any value to it at all, but you're welcome to.
S4: Well, thanks, guys.
S8: Thank you.
S3: I'm another health star. Ratings bombshell.
S4: Oh, man.
S3: Now for people again, new to the show. Welcome. But
S3: we've been following the health star rating you see in
S3: Supermarket Foods, which meant to indicate which foods might be
S3: healthier for you to purchase or which foods you might
S3: want to avoid.
S4: Who does the stars? Who does the stars? Was the
S4: initial cry from us because we can't figure.
S3: Out.
S4: Some things that aren't healthy. Get a lot. Some things
S4: that are kind of healthy don't score very highly at all.
S4: What have you got to do?
S3: Well, you know, we've tackled a lot of these. And
S3: so it's hard to bring something back to the group
S3: that you think is going to wow them, because that's.
S4: True as time goes on. Like the the burden of
S4: impressiveness is really through the.
S3: Like a paramedic, you rock up to your first accident,
S3: you probably get a little bit overwhelmed. But now we've
S3: seen everything. You know, you'd think. But I reckon this
S3: one is going to be unusual for you. You're going
S3: to be going well, you're going to.
S4: Just another person lying here with their femur sticking out
S4: of their leg going, impressive for you. You're going to
S4: be near for five years, mate. And then they go, fine,
S4: go then. Good will unimpressed.
S3: Here we go. This is from Will Horner. This morning
S3: my friend Jess was picking up the Coles branded Greek
S3: style natural yoghurt. Yep. He purchased one kilo at the
S3: cream of the creamy goodness and on her walk home
S3: discovered something outrageous. What she discovered was that the lid
S3: on the package displays a health star rating of 2.5 stars.
S3: See image below. I've got the image for you. Upon
S3: further inspection, she discovered the actual bucket shaped packaging of
S3: the yoghurt presented a health star rating of three stars
S3: on the lid.
S5: Amazing.
S4: Healthier. The further you go, skim the top nice and healthy.
S4: Don't eat the dregs. That's where all the fats are.
S3: This changes everything. The same item displaying.
S5: Two different ratings.
S3: That's the same.
S5: Goddamn.
S4: Packaging that is new. We've had the same many, many
S4: cases of the same item, sometimes on the shelf next
S4: to each other, having different health stars but never merged
S4: into the one the.
S3: One package with two. I hope I'd like similar to Fats.
S4: Sorry, to Fats to nothing wrong with fats, particularly in
S4: Greek yogurt. I should have said that's that's where the
S4: processed sugars are. Should there be any there? That's that's
S4: what should kill you.
S3: I hope that similar to the final scene in the
S3: Usual Suspects, she dropped.
S5: The yogurt.
S3: And it fell. The package just fell through in slow
S3: motion through mid-air and then exploded. And there was a
S3: close up on three stars and a close up on
S3: two and a half stars. But, well, how can they
S3: possibly defend that? They've had a lot of answers for us. Yeah,
S3: but how can they possibly defend that one?
S4: They'll try. They'll try and we won't. We won't listen.
S4: I remember we were told that there was going to
S4: be a big announcement coming from.
S5: Yes.
S4: So far, nothing that we'll get that all would be revealed.
S4: We're always getting told in the future from the health stars,
S4: people that, oh, don't worry, there'll be an answer for
S4: all of this. The conspiracies are raging so hard and
S4: fast that this mythical day, when all is explained, is
S4: getting harder and harder for them to pull off. I
S4: had someone contact to Sando and apologize. I don't have
S4: the email in front of me, but some of the
S4: worked in packaging for for like for supermarket foods. I'm like, oh,
S4: we work for a company that does all the packaging.
S4: I said, look, the kind of the kind of you
S4: don't officially say this, but when you're designing the packaging
S4: anything because we've talked about how if you if you
S4: sometimes you have everyone in the whole range gets the
S4: health stars. If you want to have your five star players,
S4: you have to kind of cop a few ones does.
S3: Yes. If you're a brand, a total brand has to
S3: play doing all play. You can't you can't just can't
S3: just pick and choose your heroes.
S4: Yeah, we'll get them rated. So it's a bit of
S4: an unwritten rule that if you've got what they're starting
S4: to do now is if you've got low stars, you
S4: tuck it on the back, really sort of just chuck
S4: amongst the ingredients. If you've got high stars popping on
S4: the front, put that review right out front.
S3: Doesn't surprise me.
S4: Nothing, nothing surprises me in this arena.
S3: I'm couple of weeks back now. I went to visit
S3: Becky's sister in Darwin for our overseas lessons, the top
S3: end of of Australia, and we decided to go on
S3: a crocodile jumping to her. Jumping?
S4: Yes. Yeah. You get dirt bikes and you jump over crossing.
S3: No, no, no. You're in a boat and the crocs
S3: do the jumping. There were two tours to choose from
S3: a company called the Original Croc Jumping tour. Okay.
S4: What?
S5: A whole lot of chickens.
S4: Whole lot more regional croc jumping to.
S3: Or it's direct competitor, spectacular croc jumping tour. So I
S3: had the choice.
S4: The original really good marketing decision there, isn't it? Do
S4: you mark it on heritage or do you market on
S4: really new and improved for spectacular?
S3: I went with the original.
S4: Thought you would have only because.
S3: Spectacular was folded.
S4: But I also feel like there would be a part
S4: of you that wanted to reward loyalty to the to
S4: the art of crocodile jumping.
S3: But when we got on the tour boy with a
S3: emphasising the original the guy, the start of the tour.
S3: Hello welcome to the original croc jumping to have been
S3: here stated the years and months. We are pretty original.
S4: Shitty that someone's come along and gone. Yes. Hey, you
S4: know the croc jumping tour that is booked out every
S4: single day that anyone can do that. Like they didn't
S4: have a they didn't have a license or anything. Like
S4: it would have just been someone else realizing that this
S4: is a free for all.
S3: So I haven't done the investigation, but I will keep
S3: get delve deeper into it. But we can only assume
S3: that they didn't open the first one calling it the original.
S4: Yeah. What was it.
S3: Originally? It would have just been Darwin's croc jumping to. Yeah.
S4: Until Because then. Because they don't own the crocs. They're
S4: wild crocs. It's not like you can't. You don't own
S4: the river, you don't own the crocs. It's basically your
S4: overheads are a boat and chicken on a stick. So
S4: if anyone, anyone can come up with that and someone
S4: to take the bookings, you've got yourself a tour.
S3: So another mob's come along and gone. Let's just call
S3: out Spectacular. Now, might I add, it is spectacular. Even
S3: at the at the original one, it was spectacular seeing
S3: these crocs come so far out of the water because
S3: their tails tails are half a length of a crocodile.
S3: Do you know that?
S4: I do now.
S3: So they're their tails are so powerful that they can
S3: get their whole body out to come up for the
S3: chicken on a stick? I'm not sure how often they
S3: need that in the wild.
S4: It is interesting, isn't it? Because they've got the power,
S4: but I guess they usually use it for like horizontal acceleration. Yes.
S4: And now, you know, in I mean crocodiles have been
S4: around for what, 18 million years. Yeah.
S3: We still one that was over 100 years old. Yeah. Geez.
S3: And their biggest predator is themselves. They eat each other.
S4: Other male crocs. Yeah. And mums face off.
S3: Mums eat their kids at 20 weeks old. If you've
S3: got to stay away from your mum at 20.
S5: Weeks, no matter what.
S3: At 20 weeks is like fend for yourself really. And
S3: if because they assume another predator is going to eat
S3: their young, so may as well be there as well.
S3: Get the calories.
S4: I love traditions, but yeah, I don't know. I'd have
S4: I'd have feelings about that if I was a kid.
S3: So back to the task at hand for my investigation.
S3: I don't know how many years after the the original
S3: croc jumping tour was made when Spectacular came along. But
S3: they've clearly they're probably driving to work because they're like
S3: 600m away from each other as the turn off.
S4: My favorite kind of business rivalry.
S3: So they're driving to work one day and they see
S3: a sign saying Spectacular jumping croc to starting striking.
S4: That's the first they heard of this because it's a
S4: small town like you would think. Like if, you know,
S4: if Sally's running the original and then Paul decides, I
S4: think I'm going to do spectacular. Paul would know. Sally Yes, maybe.
S4: Probably should let it. Let it go. Let it. You know.
S3: Paul's telling us just, you know, we're going to start.
S4: Just quietly mention over a forex gold. Hey, how's business? Oh,
S4: my God. It's amazing. Yeah.
S3: Too much. Like, much more than you.
S4: Can possibly buy. Headache. Yeah.
S3: So then the guys at the Darwin's croc jumping tour,
S3: they've all had to go. Gee, spectacular. Starting up, they
S3: would have thrown around a lot of different names because,
S3: I mean, they could have gone with more spectacular.
S5: Even more because that does make you sound like a
S5: second comer. So if you want to keep heritage, you've
S5: got to go.
S4: That's what they would have. Absolutely. Just go on. Let's go.
S4: Hard on these guys are thieves because obviously bad bloods happened.
S4: Yeah let's just go hard on absolutely the original and
S4: the best They could have thrown that in there and
S4: the proud of them for not throwing you do often
S4: say people that are particularly upset trying to say original
S4: one of the best.
S3: Because he never said the best.
S4: He could have.
S5: They could have gone for something like original and still
S5: spectacular croc jumping to us.
S4: Oh yeah, tough. Because if no big, big, then if
S4: you go, okay, we're going to call ourselves the original spectacular.
S5: That is dishonest. Now.
S3: See, the original spectacular jumping to is the news particularly.
S4: Where? Yeah, we named ourselves original. Yeah. Okay. But you
S4: can't own. No, we're just saying we are happened to
S4: be spectacular. That's not our name. Yeah, I would have
S4: probably gone with that. I would go the the main
S4: sign to be like, Right, these guys, if it's war,
S4: it's war. We're going to call ourselves the original croc
S4: jumping tours brackets. Who also happened to be spectating. Yeah.
S4: Or to go extra to like to remove your hands
S4: completely of any wrongdoing. You just include quotes from customers
S4: that all include the word spectacular. That's like, the most
S4: spectacular thing I've ever seen. Boy, oh, boy. Now, this
S4: is spectacular. I've never seen anything so spectacular. That's true.
S4: So then you're killing them both. Fun, spectacular, pretty and originality.
S3: If anyone has more details that lives up north.
S4: Yeah. What was the original name of the original?
S3: Please hit us up with me, Shankar. I'd love to
S3: know a bit more about it.
S4: And this is a time specific one usually doesn't matter
S4: when you listen to the podcast, but I feel like
S4: I have to timestamp this because today's Thursday, right heading
S4: into this weekend, it's a drop day podcast Drop day. Yes.
S4: Heading into this Friday, which is tomorrow is I've got
S4: to make Sunny's birthday cake and this is Cake week.
S3: He's been slightly thinking about it. Or have you done anything?
S4: No, no, no. This is say have you done here
S4: is a little bit different. Yes, I have. I've run
S4: a test.
S3: Right. I mean, Finnish listeners welcome, but Hamish has a
S3: broad history now of trying to make. Well, this is this.
S4: Is my sixth year.
S3: Actually. He doesn't bake a cake. He constructs it.
S4: Out of this is my seventh year of making well
S4: through blood, sweat and tears, constructing Lego strange.
S3: Constructing a cake from delivered pieces of bakery.
S4: Well, you don't. The builder does not need to make
S4: his shovel for the whole to count. You are allowed
S4: to use tools. Some things that have been preassembled to
S4: put together a finished product. Would you agree though, Jack?
S4: Majesty cakes.
S3: Are.
S5: They're amazing. Like they're so.
S3: Good. Very good.
S4: Let us not forget how much we celebrated when I
S4: made what is essentially an a red oblong was the
S4: original cakes and his third birthday. We're now these are
S4: the seventh year. This is his ninth birthday.
S3: He's still into it.
S4: Yeah. Yeah. But now he's obviously the mood changes from
S4: a three year old to you don't think about who's
S4: making your cake to now he's aware, you know, like
S4: it's become a fun tradition in the house but now
S4: it's become because the challenge is hey, whatever you say.
S4: And now it always has a moving part. Yes, whatever
S4: you say, Dad has to make it. So now, of course.
S3: There was, of course, the cars trailer with an edible hinge.
S4: Yep. The back of the semi-trailer opened up and. And
S4: there was a matchbox car which at.
S2: The time we.
S4: Thought was cutting edge technology was.
S3: Um. What's this year?
S4: Okay, here's where, here's where we're at. Usually a day
S4: or two out. I'll get the brief this time. It's
S4: been a week.
S3: He's come to a week out.
S4: It's come to a weekend. And it just was clear
S4: what it was going to be because for the last
S4: 2 to 3 months, he's been heavily into Rubik's cubing. Okay?
S4: He's been he's been cubing his school. Yeah. When we're
S4: away on holidays, we're just Cuban. I learnt how to
S4: do the cube with him. I'm Cuban. Your cube. I'm terrible.
S4: I'm basically cubing as. Just a sacrificial lamb so that
S4: he can laugh at me and feel good about his time.
S3: Is he better at that Cuban than you smoking me?
S4: Jack, You can cube, can't.
S5: You, Jack? I'm a slow Cuba as well, but still,
S5: your complete cube is a complete cube.
S4: That's true. I remember back in the day, and that's
S4: what I'm trying to tell, sir. Hey, hey, hey. We're
S4: all in the cube team here. We don't need. We're
S4: not all Speed Cube. And anyway, Rubik's Cube has become huge,
S4: so it was probably clear from a month out, you know,
S4: because generally the cake represents like, what fad is happening
S4: at the time it was going to be cube based. Yeah. So,
S4: so it was like I've been thinking, what about a
S4: Rubik's Cube cake? And I go, Yeah, okay. I thought
S4: this could be coming up. This was a this was
S4: about a week or two weeks ago. Then he went,
S4: But it moves.
S5: Fully working is hard.
S4: And went, Jeez, wow, three, three lives goes all the
S4: pieces move. Solvable cake.
S5: Hey, boss. Impossible. Possible.
S3: Well, not all solvable. Like, What's that? That. That can't be.
S3: I mean, easy isn't possible, but also, it's very much
S3: impossible if you're going for all edible.
S4: I'm not even close. Not even close. I gave up
S4: on all edible years and years ago. Just. I mean,
S4: once Lego started sneaking in. Yes. Then you start to go, okay,
S4: how do you make a fully articulating Rubik's cube? So
S4: the first thing I did, we have had a little
S4: Rubik's cube keyring at home that had broken. And so
S4: I started looking on the inside of the cube and
S4: I go, okay, this is how they make them. It's
S4: quite complicated in there. There's 27 pieces plus the core
S4: piece of the cube. Here's my thinking. We we find
S4: the design for a Rubik's cube, a 3D printable Rubik's cube.
S4: We then hollow out like you just essentially make the
S4: skeleton of the cube. So the plastic bits move around.
S4: Then I will make each cube out of cake or
S4: edible material. So the cube, my vision for the cube
S4: aesthetically is it's it's on a stick with the base plate.
S4: So it's sort of like a foot off the ground.
S4: Behold the Rubik's cube cake. There might be space underneath
S4: for a nine made out of actual cake if we
S4: want to do some cutting up just for ease. Yes
S4: but that's what, you know, like vision wise. It's a cake.
S4: It's a cube floating in the air on a stick. Now,
S4: of course, when you start rotating the pieces, you're going
S4: to take a piece of cake that was on the
S4: top and rotate it upside down. And that's going to
S4: slide off like that's how it falls out. So every
S4: and every face of it could end up being underneath
S4: the cake during the solving of the cake. So every
S4: face has to resist. Gravity has to be at a
S4: hang in there. This is where it gets tricky. Anyway,
S4: I was like, let's start with the skeleton first, right?
S4: We sit down, we come up with the design. He's like, Yeah,
S4: they should wear this kind of like, remember, like we've
S4: got to try and find a way for this not
S4: to all fall apart. It's like, Well, let's just print
S4: the cube first and we'll just see if it works.
S4: It quickly becomes apparent that it's like, Are you going
S4: to take way too long? And B, we don't really
S4: have the skills, so we go on YouTube. So how
S4: long just quickly.
S3: So you obviously.
S4: For a small pace, remember, there's 27 of these. It
S4: was going to be like six hours per piece.
S3: Right? So you press go cracked the beer and you're
S3: sitting there and he's going, well why are you standing around?
S4: Yeah. So in my head it was like The Jetsons
S4: where you press and go and it like and there's
S4: a cloud and the smoke dissipates and it's made it
S4: is not that. So then we go on YouTube and
S4: we we find Australia's greatest 3D printing genius. His name's Angus.
S4: He's from a website called Maker's Muse. He's got a
S4: YouTube channel. So I start harassing him online and I
S4: can't get in contact with him. So they now the
S4: clock is ticking down. Luckily, like last Friday, he's like,
S4: Oh man, I never checked these emails. Yeah, because I
S4: was like, begging with him, Please, me and my brother
S4: in law, this is what we're trying to do. We
S4: really need your help. He goes, Sounds, sounds really weird,
S4: but yes, I think I know what you're saying. And
S4: and because he'd made a Rubik's Cube before, but he'd
S4: never put the design online anyway, he shares his state
S4: secrets with us. Jazz and him sort of get together
S4: and they're colluding. And I was like, Let's blow it up. Like,
S4: we want to make it big. Yeah. Yesterday I got
S4: the pieces right. They're massive. I thought I would have
S4: these a week ago to run a test because what
S4: I'm actually going to do is it's not going to
S4: be cake in there. It's going to be the marshmallow
S4: and rice bubble mixture, right? Like a Rice Krispie, which
S4: is very legal in the baking world. That counts as cake.
S4: So it's fully edible, the cube, except for the plastic shell,
S4: but so hang on.
S3: The plastic shells on the outside.
S4: Plastic shells on the inside, then the cakes on the outside.
S4: So the plastic shell is sort of like a it's
S4: hard to describe, but it's a it's the interior of
S4: the cube. And then I'm packing the exterior with rice
S4: bubbles and marshmallow.
S3: I get you. And then on the outside of the cube.
S4: Yeah. Then so that whole cube volume is made of
S4: rice bubbles and marshmallows, which I put in as a lump.
S4: Then when it sets, my plan is to shave it
S4: perfectly on the outside into the shape of the cube.
S4: I then ice those. I've got to make 27 individual
S4: ones with the correct colors. Click it all together. That's
S4: your cake. That's the theory. He's the really tricky bit.
S4: I because I'm doing this all on WhatsApp and the
S4: kind of the printing geniuses I left them to kind
S4: of do it. I'm not really needed in that channel.
S4: They've nailed the printing part like Maker's Muse, My brother
S4: in law, they're very good 3D printers. The tricky part
S4: is this is a big cube. And I did a
S4: test last night with a corner piece because I was like,
S4: I've got to do a test before cake night if
S4: this doesn't stick. Do you know what I mean? Like,
S4: if this mixture, if you turn this upside down, it
S4: just slips out. Yeah. Like, honestly, full disclosure, I'm also,
S4: in my mind, I'm like this easily. Like, there are
S4: several parts of this where it's like, it's just all over.
S4: I've got another cake. Good standing by. That could just
S4: be a sorry cake. Like sometimes it's just literally just
S4: a round cake that says Happy birthday and I'm so sorry.
S4: And I tried. So I did a test last night.
S4: Have a guess how much weight, how much volume of
S4: marshmallow and rice bubbles needs to go in each one
S4: of the 27 cubes?
S3: Well.
S5: Are you trying to make the size of it so
S5: bigger than a normal Rubik's cube?
S4: Obviously, each each component, each little cube is bigger than
S4: a normal Rubik's cube.
S5: That's way too big.
S4: I know, I know. Well, I didn't get a chance
S4: to see it yet because I just said to them.
S4: Seems awesome guys. And they show me footage of it
S4: being printed. I was like, Man, look at it go.
S4: And I actually didn't see it till it was printed
S4: out yesterday. And I went, This is a big cube
S4: and this is going to be full of cake. Each one.
S4: By my estimates, there's going to be over five kilograms
S4: of marshmallow in each cube. No, no, in the whole cake. Okay.
S4: There's 250g of marshmallow and rice balls in each cube.
S4: That's wild. It's too much. It's weight. Because in your
S4: head you go, Yeah, rice bubbles very light, but it
S4: all kind of melts down and it's it's pretty dense.
S4: So that's where I'm at.
S3: Plan.
S4: Well, the plan is I make them you make them first.
S4: Like I'll have to create the cubes first, put them
S4: in the freezer. Then I was actually speaking to Scotty Cam.
S4: He hasn't got back to me yet, but I texted
S4: him before because I was like, Mate, I'm going to
S4: have these like, globular rice bubble marshmallow things. What tool exists? Oh,
S4: where I could shave this away? I said, like, I
S4: have an electric chainsaw, like from our machine. Yeah.
S3: Yeah. Brutal.
S4: But it feels like it's just going to get clogged
S4: and jammed up with marshmallow and rice bubbles. And I
S4: also just. I'm not a massive nerd about safety, but
S4: it just doesn't feel right to be using a chainsaw
S4: in the kitchen. Yeah, like if Zo walks in and
S4: I'm using a chainsaw in the kitchen, it's going to
S4: be on me. If an accident happens.
S3: There's heated rods full. Fine.
S4: This is what I'm. Yeah, I'm thinking of a heated
S4: rod or a heated hacksaw blade. Yeah. So I freeze
S4: them down and I just. Anyway, it depends what Scotty
S4: comes back with, but he's a he's working on it
S4: for me at the moment. I would have now that
S4: I realize the undertaking of this, I would have loved
S4: to be at this stage one week ago. Yeah. Just
S4: just to understand the basic physics work as it stands.
S4: And we're still four pieces short for the cube, but
S4: I've got it on good authority that'll arrive this afternoon
S4: or tomorrow morning. So tomorrow night I will have I
S4: will be ready to attempt this. But even last night's
S4: test with one like lumpy corner and it took nearly
S4: an hour this morning I went to the fridge. It
S4: holds upside down. How long it will last for, we
S4: don't know.
S3: So you've got potentially 27 hours.
S4: I've got to shopping that up, though. I've got to
S4: I've got to think of a faster I got to
S4: think of a faster way to do it. The other
S4: thing is, in my head, it was so clean. When
S4: you're working with this marshmallow rice bubble stuff, it is everywhere.
S4: And the the cube only rotate like the cube operates
S4: on smoothness. Are you doing.
S3: This in your kitchen at home? Yes. That would be
S3: hiding this. Yeah. Yeah. So you got that against you
S3: as well?
S4: Yeah. And she saw me doing the test last night
S4: and she said, Oh, you're not doing that. Not again.
S4: Like the marshmallow. Yeah. I don't want this one because
S4: I made. I've used it before. It's not a fan favorite. No.
S3: With the marshmallow rice mix, how often is that finished
S3: with people eating it?
S4: All the time. Yeah. Big. Like one of the. One
S4: of the more famous. I was looking at someone on
S4: YouTube night. Made a big SpongeBob SquarePants cake with it.
S4: I mean, that's the thing. Yeah, people love it. Absolutely
S4: love it. It's a delicious trade, especially five kilograms of
S4: it for the eight children.
S12: Like, you.
S4: Know, I have to tell him to. Really? Yeah. Okay, guys,
S4: there's only 400g of marshmallows each. And if you're hungry,
S4: you know, have a banana because there's only. Yeah, it's
S4: only half a kilo each for you in this cake.
S3: Good luck, man. Mate, we're here for you.
S4: I'm the words of Jack. It does feel impossible at
S4: this stage, but the joy on his face when he's
S4: trying to rotate this thing around, it's all falling apart.
S4: And it's.
S3: It's solved. His 20th birthday when you finally finished.
S12: With 20, 20.
S4: 21st.
S12: Mate.
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