S1: A listener production.
S2: Crocks rocks, prehistoric animals capable of leaping from the water
S2: to eat a raw chicken off a stick, to the
S2: delight of tourists in a nearby boat. Apart from the chicken,
S2: a situation in which everyone wins. All. So you think
S2: these displays have been the lifeblood of two of the
S2: Northern Territory's proudest businesses for decades spectacular croc jumping tours
S2: and original croc jumping tours. However, sadly, the small business
S2: waters between the businesses have historically been anything but calm.
S2: Years of high jinks and tricks, some verging from cheeky
S2: to dirty, have created a rift between these two dragons
S2: of the airborne croc tourism game, a rift many thought
S2: could never be repaired. But not the Hamish and Andy podcast.
S2: Refusing to take the several good opportunities to let this
S2: story arc Peter out. The boys now venture to Darwin
S2: to achieve what many believe impossible a truce. Can Hamish
S2: and Andy do it? Can they bring peace in the North?
S2: And then, if time permits, and only if time permits,
S2: go on a two hour jet ski tour and have
S2: a big night out at the Caz. We'll find out soon.
S2: But first, let's catch you all up and go back
S2: in time to May 2023 when on a routine Andy
S2: Ellie trip to Darwin, some afternoon entertainment was required.
S3: We decided to go on a crocodile jumping to jumping.
S4: Yes, you get dirt bikes and you jump over.
S3: No no no, you're in a boat and the crocs
S3: do the jumping.
S2: The naming of the two tours and their origins was intriguing.
S3: There were two tours to choose from, a company called
S3: the Original Croc Jumping Tour. Okay, that's a whole lot
S3: of chickens. A lot more original.
S4: Content.
S3: Or its direct competitor spectacular croc jumping tour.
S4: If you were opening a one of a kind tour,
S4: you would never think to call it original first. Yes,
S4: without competition, and you could never call it original if
S4: you were second to market because you're not.
S2: Yes, and it was fun to imagine some decades old
S2: feud at two ends of a bridge over the Adelaide River.
S4: If it's war, it's war. We're going to call ourselves
S4: the original croc jumping tours brackets. Who also happened to
S4: be spectators.
S3: Yeah.
S4: Oh, or to go extra teeth like to remove your
S4: hands completely of any wrongdoing. You just include quotes from
S4: customers that all include the word spectacular. Like the most
S4: spectacular thing I've ever seen. Boy oh boy. Now this
S4: is spectacular. I've never seen anything so spectacular.
S2: But the boys soon discovered that reality would deliver them.
S2: Just the river rivalry they were after.
S4: I got an anonymous tip that came in my side.
S4: The fence. She says. Look, I work in the territory
S4: in the tourism game and they are big rivals, these
S4: two companies. Yeah, we've got a trade show each year
S4: and they have to separate them. So there's no beef
S4: at the trade show.
S3: It's a rivalry, but.
S5: It's not like like it's not a dictatorship. Where are
S5: you going to go in? Like someone's going to get
S5: shot for crossing the line. Like it's not going to
S5: happen like that. In saying that, there definitely would be
S5: a like, you don't come on my turf. I don't
S5: go on your turf. There's an understanding. It's like the DMZ,
S5: you're not crossing the line.
S2: And the bombshells from Bill didn't end there.
S5: The original fun fact is not actually the original.
S3: Oh.
S4: Oh, hang on, this is huge.
S3: Hang on, hang on a second. So is spectacular. The
S3: original spectacular.
S5: Is the original.
S4: Then what is going on with the rail? How are
S4: the original calling themselves the original?
S5: Your guess would be as good as mine.
S2: Information started to come in from informants left, right and
S2: centre and some clarification was offered.
S3: There was two going at it Frontier and Adelaide River.
S3: Frontier went out of business to Adelaide River. Have called
S3: themselves a wrench at all, but they've only slapped original
S3: on the on their name.
S4: When in spectacular.
S3: Came it came on so but they still more original
S3: than spectacular I think so.
S4: That's splitting hairs. But and also that's obviously not as
S4: catchy a slogan.
S3: No. Yeah.
S4: More original, more original than the other guys. Maybe not
S4: the original, but certainly more original. Now you get into
S4: shades of originality. That is interesting. But the Croc.
S2: Wars got even more interesting with information from a source
S2: deep within the NT government.
S3: Back in the day, things got so bad between the
S3: operators we had to officially step in and mediate. The
S3: bridge is in fact now an official no man's land
S3: and neither shall pass onto other side. The person who
S3: said that there is a big rub between the operators
S3: wasn't exaggerating. Back in the old territory days, there were
S3: lots of shenanigans going on between them.
S2: And if this show loves anything, it's shenanigans.
S6: Sources have reported to me that in around the Covid times,
S6: there was some border dealings in shenanigans with signs.
S3: Oh, so the.
S4: Defacing of signs or.
S6: The defacing of signs? Allegedly, the.
S2: Pods insider Kip also got some Intel of incursions into
S2: each other's territory. Original.
S6: What they said to me was they're happy where they are,
S6: but they do go north from time to time. Yep, spectacular.
S6: Only went up north from what I could see.
S4: You get the feeling from spectacular that when original does
S4: go north of the bridge that's kicking the hornet's nest
S4: a bit and spectacular. Doesn't like that.
S6: That's the feeling on the water hand. Yeah.
S2: In any investigation, misinformation sows doubt and insecurities can start
S2: to rise. But anonymous emails help steady the boat.
S4: Yes. Don't give up on the croc thing. You're closer
S4: than you think. It's just it's out there and it's simmering. Yes.
S4: And people are thinking about it.
S2: And the more the boys thought about it, the more
S2: they knew what they had to do.
S4: Wouldn't it be an incredible thing? They're in the hat
S4: of the Hamish Nandy show. If we could travel to
S4: the territory and negotiate a peace deal.
S7: Bring peace to the region.
S4: To the territories. That's our best shot at a Nobel
S4: Peace Prize.
S7: Like bringing down the Berlin Wall. Do we bring down
S7: the bridge?
S3: Oh, no. No, you need that. You need that. It's
S3: one of them anyway.
S4: And the last thing we've got to say is may
S4: the bridge forever be down. What are you doing? That bridge,
S4: you girls.
S2: Having decided not to blow it up, the bridge did
S2: seem like a focal point.
S7: We hold some sort of party on the bridge in
S7: the middle of the bridge. They come and shake hands.
S7: The two tours and then the town celebrates and we
S7: all party into the night.
S4: It's like it's North Korea. It's very north South Korea
S4: that you meet. Or Berlin really barely feels like a bridge.
S3: Are you guys envisaging.
S4: Basically the bridge from like Cold War movies between East
S4: and West Berlin?
S3: Yeah, right. It's like a very well used highway.
S4: Like it's a road.
S3: Bridge. It's a road bridge. Cars like we're in the
S3: middle of it. Cars are going at 130.
S4: I'm right. It's a freeway. Yeah.
S3: It's like it's quite a.
S4: I feel like a jack. But I still like the
S4: idea that maybe made under the bridge. Can we do
S4: that and bury a hatchet?
S3: That's where the crocs live.
S2: And so a peace mission was decided upon. Flights were booked,
S2: sunset jet ski tours were arranged. The whole team was
S2: Darwin bound on the first weekend in November until.
S3: Press release from the original Adelaide River Queen jumping croc cruises.
S4: So the original the original. The original for short.
S3: Yep the original it is the original jumping crocodile cruises
S3: will close on the 31st of October 2023, after 38
S3: years of operation on the Adelaide River.
S4: Unbelievable.
S3: We still going? We just take your holiday. I mean.
S4: We booked it and we got so excited. We were
S4: looking at, like, again, it's like nothing.
S7: It's really the first for St Peter out. Usually where.
S4: It is, it is.
S7: In charge of our Peter out.
S4: We're for the first time ever where the opposite of
S4: a Peter out. We're we're the ones clinging on and
S4: someone else has opened the door in Peter's left hand.
S2: Cling on. They did. They found any excuse to go.
S3: But it doesn't necessarily mean that we can't create peace
S3: between the two businesses. There'd be a nice way to close.
S7: One doesn't exist.
S3: Yeah.
S4: It does seem like an easy peace deal. Just. Just
S4: as he's taking his cardboard box full of stuff to
S4: his car. And, Tony, do you agree to peace? Yeah, mate. Whatever.
S4: See it? Well, we got it, we got it, we
S4: got peace. Sure, mate. Have 100 of them. You beauty.
S4: We did it. We did it.
S2: But nothing would stand in the way of these brave
S2: warriors of peace.
S3: We've had to think about it. And we're still going
S3: to go up. Yay!
S4: Jack wants the tour. Jack wants the chances.
S3: And what we'll do up there, we don't know. Will we.
S4: Be out of.
S3: Crowbar? Some kind of peace talks and claim a triumph?
S2: Probably so. Their mission was clear.
S4: Peace in the north. Peace in the north. Hear ye,
S4: hear ye. Peace in the north.
S2: And no one could tell them otherwise.
S3: We got accused on email of forging forth with this
S3: for the want of a fun trip to Darwin. Now
S3: that could not be what? Yeah.
S4: Because of the jet ski tours. Yeah.
S3: Luckily that could not be further from.
S4: Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah. Here's me with a wife and
S4: two kids. Wife and two kids. I'm like, oh, let me,
S4: you know, I'm just going to go to Darwin just
S4: because we're sitting in the casino, you know, that's that
S4: is that's gross. That's gross. But you're not the only
S4: one crying. I'm crying because that's a really hurtful thing
S4: to say. Oh, boy. And that's what these teeth represent.
S4: These tears are for. And you do this for small business. Peace.
S4: And you get a kiss. I mean, just being trivial anyway.
S4: And not. No need more of a need than ever.
S4: There is more of a need than ever for this.
S2: And so our heroes set forth on their journey north.
S4: We will not rest until peace is bought on Saturday afternoon.
S4: Then we will not rest because doing the biggest thing.
S4: But then we will rest and then we'll go home. You.
S4: You for peace. I've got.
S2: We join our worries of peace now at the Howard
S2: Springs Tavern outside Darwin, where they're chatting to the locals
S2: as they wait for their Palmer and chips.
S3: Hey, Miss Hot, it's hot.
S4: We're here in the Howard Springs in the. Howdy. I've
S4: always just called it the howdy. We're sitting with Renee. Renee,
S4: how are you going? I'm marvelous.
S8: I'm marvelous. Yes.
S4: Now, one of the.
S3: Bartenders here, and I. Have you heard of spectacular jumping
S3: croc tours?
S8: I have, I have, it's one of the good ones.
S3: What about the original Jumping Croc tour?
S8: Yeah, it's one of the better ones as well. Okay, great.
S3: They've been feuding for many, many years.
S8: They have you do you know the feud? Yes. Yeah,
S8: they're all feud.
S4: Well, I mean, we heard about the feud. Obviously we're
S4: just lowly East Coasters, but we heard about the feud
S4: and we've been following it all year.
S8: Wow.
S4: Now, Renee, we've come here to negotiate a peace between
S4: original and spectacular.
S8: Oh, wow. This is interesting.
S3: Do you think that's achievable?
S8: I think if anybody can do it, you guys can. Yeah.
S4: Thank you. Yeah. Do you feel like the territories behind
S4: us as we try.
S8: And I feel like 100%. I live under a rock
S8: and I'm sure everybody else knows what you're doing, but 100%.
S8: If you can make these guys sort that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
S8: that'd be great. Well, as.
S4: Soon as I walked in, the jack who works behind
S4: the bar, he looked at me and said, you're here
S4: for peace. And I said, yeah, that's exactly what we're doing, mate. So, Renee,
S4: we wanted to get a territorial and a member of
S4: of this fine establishment want to get their blessing as
S4: we head out because our next stop, we're heading out
S4: to the river.
S8: Well, you're going to need it. You're going to need
S8: my blessings. Yeah, you need my blessing. Shenanigans.
S3: Have you heard of the what? Have you heard about
S3: the feud?
S8: No, I just heard it. Nobody can get along.
S3: Right.
S4: So it's just. And then it's devolved into possibly dirty tricks.
S4: And the thing is, that is fertile ground for peace,
S4: isn't it? We're know. So when no one can get along.
S4: I mean, you would have seen a few scuffles here
S4: at the bar over the years.
S8: Every Wednesday night. Why Wednesdays.
S4: Fight night.
S8: Wednesday night. Titty night. Oh. It brings out the best
S8: in everyone. Gotcha. All the worst. Gotcha.
S3: Gotcha.
S4: Well, I'll tell you what. That's goodness. Plan B.
S3: Thank goodness we're not trying to solve this thing and
S3: get a peace deal done on a Wednesday.
S4: Yeah. You don't want to keep.
S3: It to a Saturday.
S4: As they say at the UN. Pointless trying to negotiate.
S4: Peace on titty. No, you wait till Thursday lunchtime when
S4: everyone's cool down. All right. Renee.
S3: Thank you. We had some bad news earlier in the week.
S3: In fact, I think we're going to play that for everybody. Yeah, so.
S4: We're heading out to negotiate peace between Wes and Tony.
S4: And we hadn't spoken to Tony from original. Yeah, we
S4: heard earlier in the week a couple of days ago,
S4: Tony wanted to talk and we jumped into the studio
S4: and had a chat to Tony. Have a listen to
S4: this for now.
S3: An emergency jump back into the studio today, guys. Lovely
S3: to see you both. Yeah.
S4: Good to see you. This warrants it. Yeah.
S3: People will be hearing this knowing that we're already in Darwin. Yeah,
S3: but a vital piece of the puzzle is not going
S3: to be there.
S4: And we thought, let's capture this moment because I never
S4: thought that this was going to play out like a
S4: true crime podcast. But it's going to have those pieces,
S4: isn't it? We have to, like, have the phone calls
S4: and the bits of evidence and the pieces of the journey.
S4: This is the bit where we've just found out that
S4: as we are about to head in a couple of
S4: days to Darwin to visit the owners of spectacular croc
S4: jumping tours, that's Wes and original croc jumping tours. That's
S4: Tony to negotiate peace between the businesses. Tony's not going
S4: to be there. Mm hmm. Now, this is our this
S4: is our. We've had this weekend blocked out. We're very
S4: excited about this weekend. As has been previously discussed, excited
S4: for the notion of peace.
S3: It turns out that he's on Sunshine Coast. He's way.
S4: Yeah, but. Can we do something still? I mean, if
S4: Covid taught us anything, you don't actually have to be
S4: in the physical location. Well, we're going to be there.
S4: We'll be in Darwin. And I think we've still got
S4: a commitment from Wes to join us in neutral territory
S4: between the two businesses.
S3: I'm not sure if Wes knows that Tony's not going
S3: to be there in person, but.
S4: Don't tell Wes because we need Wes to show up
S4: because we're going to look like absolute idiots if we.
S4: We fly all the way up from the eastern coast.
S4: We're the only two guys standing out there in a field,
S4: and Jack's holding a laptop or something, and no one's there.
S3: Well, we've had further contact with Tony. He's happy to
S3: take a call from us. That's what we've raised back
S3: in the studio. Let's give him a buzz now and
S3: find the lay of the land. This is the owner
S3: of original.
S4: What are we trying to get out of him? Just
S4: a commitment. Would he, like, zoom in or face to piece?
S4: Is he open? Yeah. And that's it. Like, is he
S4: open to piece? Would he virtually join this tiny rooms?
S3: Tony, it's Hamish and Andy here.
S9: Yeah. Same as in Andy.
S4: Get a tiny. What an honor to speak to you, sir.
S9: Oh, well, I wouldn't say it's a real honor. A
S9: lot of people would think it's a bit downmarket.
S3: Never mind. Not us, mate, for us. Time. We've dedicated
S3: a lot of time to this. We've found out that you.
S3: You're not going to be there on what we know.
S4: Okay. So turn. We are heading up. We're going to
S4: be in Darwin on Saturday to hold a peace summit,
S4: a small business peace summit, of which you would have
S4: been and are a 50% of the esteemed guests at
S4: the peace summit between original croc jumping and spectacular croc jumping.
S4: Given that you can't be there, can we just ask
S4: you this if you had have been in town, would
S4: you have been open to attending the Peace Summit?
S9: Um, I wish you guys had a talk to me
S9: way back in the early days, because it weren't a
S9: lot particular. Well, well, spectacular.
S3: We'd love to follow this whole journey, but we only
S3: came along in the 80s. Tony.
S4: Our parents would have found it weird as two four
S4: year olds charged off up north with some recording gear.
S3: Tony, tell me the truth. Is it a publicity stunt
S3: or are you actually closing it down?
S9: Yeah, we don't do publicity stunts.
S3: Okay.
S4: All right. So really. Okay, so the situation has got
S4: untenable for you there on the river, and you're closing
S4: it down, and we read your press release. You make
S4: a lot of great points for safety reasons. And that's
S4: why you have been forced into this position. Can we
S4: take you back a bit, tone, to the days when
S4: spectacular and original were there was some shenanigans between the
S4: companies we heard we can't remember who did what to whom,
S4: but we did hear that someone used to drive a
S4: sign down and put it over the other person's sign.
S9: Oh, I did more than that.
S3: What was your best shenanigan? Tony, can you tell us now?
S3: Now that you've closed down, what was your best shenanigan?
S9: Well, it wasn't a shenanigan. It was. It was self defense. Oh, basically. Yeah,
S9: they put up a sign, we put up a sign
S9: to counter, you know, and it just went on until
S9: the the corner of Anzac Avenue was pretty much all signs.
S4: Saying things like.
S3: They never sign. You put a sign in front of that,
S3: they put a sign in front of that and you
S3: put another sign. Yeah, I heard a rumor that you
S3: put a sign up their driveway that said, wrong way.
S3: Turn back.
S4: There.
S9: Yeah, yeah, that was that was the frontier days. Yeah. Good.
S9: We had it. We had a sign more in the
S9: frontier days too, because they were right next door.
S3: Okay.
S9: It's kind of the wrong way to go. It was
S9: it was very effective.
S3: Wrong way. Go. I love that. Have you got any
S3: other tales for us? Because what else?
S4: What did they do to you? What did they what
S4: where was the what was the dirtiest trick they did
S4: to you?
S10: Oh.
S9: You know, the the problem, I guess, was the fact that.
S9: You know, we could see a very early on that
S9: it wasn't going to work outside of the bridge. I
S9: think I added it up one day there was 13
S9: cruisers went up. Yeah. And you can only feed crocodiles
S9: so often? Yep. Yeah. Now, if a crocodile didn't jump,
S9: you didn't have a product.
S3: Yeah, exactly.
S4: They're eating for pigs. They don't need to jump.
S9: Yeah, exactly. There's. It's just it doesn't work, you know,
S9: and it kind of. If you've never seen it before,
S9: you can sort of say. Oh, yeah, well, that was
S9: really good. But, you know, crocodile might slip a metre
S9: or so out of the water and say, oh, you know,
S9: get a good photo of that. But, you know, in
S9: this day and age, like this, this last year, there's,
S9: there was 5 or 6 males competing for, for space
S9: on the river. You know, and, and once these we
S9: could get these six metre crocodile at once jumped almost
S9: as high as the top deck of the boat.
S11: Wow.
S9: You know, and I mean, that's pretty spectacular. Yeah.
S4: Which is the other name, but and so.
S9: Completeness, complete misuse of words.
S4: But was was there ever a situation where, where one
S4: company was like feeding the crocs too much so they
S4: wouldn't jump for the other company?
S9: Well, the behaviour was that there was only one boat
S9: that they had that could get under the bridge. Yeah.
S9: And then from time to time they would come under
S9: the bridge and they would make a nuisance of themselves.
S3: Yeah. In what way? Just feed the crowd.
S9: Well, it's not just feed the crocs. It's. It's actually
S9: shadowing our vessels and getting in front of them. You know,
S9: seeing a croc out in the distance and getting in
S9: front of them. Oh.
S4: Crocodiles problems.
S9: Yeah. That's it.
S4: Flying croc hogs. Well, are you familiar with Wes over
S4: at Spectacular? Tony?
S9: Yeah, I know, yeah.
S4: Okay, well, he would be the other participant in this
S4: summit that we're holding. Would you be willing? I know
S4: you're going to be on the Sunshine Coast, but would
S4: you be willing to zoom in, like, virtually? Join us,
S4: perhaps via zoom or FaceTime to sit down, look Wes
S4: in the eye and just go? It's been a wild ride,
S4: but I officially come here in the name of peace,
S4: and you give each other one compliment and we all
S4: shake hands and peace is struck in the north. Um.
S9: It I guess I don't know. I'd probably like to
S9: think that one through a little bit.
S3: All right. Yeah, you can take that on notice and
S3: have a think about it. And and then hopefully on
S3: Saturday at around about 330 we hear you log in.
S3: And I mean, if you'd like Tony to make it
S3: even feel like you're there, we could get a mannequin
S3: and replace the head with a computer. So it's just
S3: your head and we could dress the mannequin like you dress. How?
S3: What kind of outfit do you normally wear?
S9: So I'm a dreadful dresser. Okay. Um. No.
S3: Would that would that help?
S9: No. Not really.
S4: Well, you still might do that. I mean, just for the.
S4: Just for the spectacle.
S3: It would look great.
S4: Yeah, you do that, we'll get a mannequin. Head is
S4: a laptop. You pop up there. And what we're really.
S4: Ideally the scenario would be, we'll say a few short remarks,
S4: a formal recognizing that any previous shenanigans have now been
S4: put to bed to close the chapter to this great
S4: territory story.
S9: Mm hmm. Leave it hanging with me till Friday.
S4: Yeah.
S3: Can I say it's not a no? You might join
S3: us on Saturday.
S9: Yeah I might. Yeah. I think that's probably the best
S9: way to do it. And I'll. I'll make a decision
S9: to what I'm going to do probably Friday night. So
S9: that is still you know, it doesn't it gives you
S9: enough time to.
S11: I think. Yeah. Give it to give it.
S9: Give the story a decent burial.
S11: Well, we'll.
S4: We'll be there. We'll be there in the dry scrub
S4: land on Saturday afternoon. We'll hopefully still have Wes. We'll
S4: wait for your call. Obviously, we can't force your attendance,
S4: but you know where to find us at 330 on
S4: Saturday afternoon.
S9: Yeah, well, that's that's probably the best way.
S4: Love it. Peace is always a positive step.
S3: Thanks so much, mate, for taking our call. We will
S3: wait with bated breath to see what happens on the weekend.
S3: But take care yourself, mate. Okay. All right.
S4: Good on your time. Bye.
S9: Take em by facing the north.
S4: Oh, I thought it was going to be more of
S4: a yes. Yes. I'll be honest with you. All righty.
S4: Thought it was a formality, to be honest. Exciting.
S2: So Tony, the owner of original, had made a lukewarm
S2: sort of definitely, maybe commitment to join the boys on
S2: zoom at 330 Saturday for peace talks with Wes.
S9: I don't know. I'd probably like to think that one
S9: through a little bit.
S2: And he really liked the idea of the mannequin dressed
S2: like him with an iPad for a face. Oh, surely
S2: it was all pointing to him turning up on zoom?
S9: Yeah, I might.
S2: Well, that's good enough for this podcast. So it was
S2: time to hit the dirt roads out to spectacular croc
S2: jumping tours to try and lock in. Wes.
S4: All right. And we've just pulled down the three kilometer
S4: corrugated dirt track to your liking. Not great to get
S4: here to spectacular croc jumping tours. Yes.
S3: Jack keeps asking, can we stay till Wednesday? And I
S3: don't know why.
S4: Jack. Why? What's happening Wednesday night at the. At the pub? No.
S4: Why do you want. Why did you book a flight
S4: back for Wednesday morning and ask if you could do
S4: your radio show from here on Thursday? I don't know
S4: what's not. What's chippy night that you can't tell. Oh,
S4: I know what you were saying. I mean.
S7: I actually don't know what happens on Wednesday night. Oh,
S7: I heard.
S4: You don't have to do your rehearsals to us. Just
S4: say it for the first time to Bianca, and just
S4: say it as if you believe it.
S3: Jack. Well, you weren't there when we heard from Renee. No, but.
S7: From from the gig. Schoolboy giggling up the front, guessing
S7: what it's about.
S4: I mean, it was one of the great lines, but anyway,
S4: here we are. We're here. It's Saturday, so tops are on.
S4: We're here unfortunately for tops on Saturday. Although I mean
S4: tops are on, but sleeves are never on in the territory.
S4: We look like an absolute couple. We look like a
S4: carload of idiots for walking around in t shirts instead
S4: of singlets.
S3: However, yeah, we are not playing favorites here, but we
S3: want to experience a tour. And of course original has
S3: shut down last weekend.
S4: So being convenient timing of our piece to it, we want.
S3: To confirm with the businesses, but where's is here? And
S3: that he'll come to the peace treaty meeting. Now here's
S3: another update. We haven't heard from Tony, he said. He
S3: said Trish, I'll think about it. He said he'd tell
S3: us Friday night. He hasn't. He said he's still thinking
S3: about it. We're trying to make the 330 timeline. All right.
S4: So here we are. We're at Spectre. I can't believe
S4: we've talked about this place all year. Spectacular croc jumping tours.
S4: We're in the car park. We're about to go, and
S4: we're about to see a croc jump out of the
S4: water for a chicken on a stick. Get fired up. Yeah,
S4: get fired up about the concept. I mean, that's the
S4: that's the business side of things.
S3: And here, where's his side.
S4: Of the story? Where's face to face? Like a lot
S4: is about to happen. We're going to hear where's the
S4: side of the story. Reconfirm reconfirmed that it's 330 at
S4: the blocks by the way. Yep I got the box 330.
S4: That is when the peace talks are on. We've been
S4: to the pub. We've met Renee. Yes. Let's go meet with.
S4: Let's see a croc jump. Yeah. Great. How are you feeling, Jack?
S4: What do you.
S3: Need? This is going.
S7: To sound a bit weak, but when the road out
S7: here was really bumpy, I've actually hurt my neck well.
S4: We know we're trying to win a peace prize. We
S4: just do not hear many peace convoys go. We. I'm sorry,
S4: a North Korea. I've got a I'm not going to
S4: be able to make it. I stubbed my toe.
S7: I'm just finding it hard to look as far left
S7: as I can. Right.
S3: So which which side.
S4: Of the bus would you like to. Which would you
S4: like us to ask for?
S3: Which side of the boat you need to be on there?
S4: Well, you.
S7: Use keep a lookout on my left side for Crocs,
S7: I guess because I can't.
S3: They don't come out. You don't have to protect yourself.
S4: So would you like to? Why don't you just sit
S4: facing out and we'll ask if the crocodiles could leap
S4: up on the side of the boat you're on. Yeah, well.
S7: I can if I need to see. I can see
S7: him on any side just by turning my whole body.
S7: But I can't. I can't move my neck as freely
S7: as I usually do.
S6: Sorry.
S7: I thought it just I thought.
S4: That's good to know. It's good.
S3: Some tactic to get us to come back on Wednesday.
S4: I know the real test. Bring him back on Wednesday
S4: and put them to his left. Oh, see the nicks better.
S4: It's whipping all over the place down post.
S7: All right, let's go.
S4: All right, you brave souls. Let's go.
S2: Oh, now, Wounded Warriors of peace jumped on board a
S2: spectacular boat and headed out onto the Adelaide River, where
S2: they were joined by the CEO of spectacular.
S4: Well, what a spectacular day for it. So always a
S4: good day out on the river, mate. Spectacular. We. It
S4: feels wild to be here after so much, so much.
S4: Thinking about this day. We're finally on the river. We
S4: were on board. Spectacular croc jumping to us. Not because
S4: we're playing favorites.
S3: Just because you're open, you're. Yeah.
S4: First thing we have to do is we say we
S4: saw the bridge. Now we obviously veered straight away from
S4: the bridge.
S3: We went north. That's a good thing. Abiding by the rules. Absolutely.
S3: When did the bridge rule come in? Long before I
S3: took over with spectacular. So I've been here for five years. Yeah.
S3: And what do you think brought on the bridge rule? Uh,
S3: I've heard lots of different stories. And when I took
S3: over here, I've got email.
S12: Chains that go back many, many years. Give us your best.
S7: The crocodile. Crocodile? Oh.
S4: Thank you, Jack.
S3: Local. It's out to. It's it's out to Jack's. Right.
S3: That's how he saw it.
S4: Local Territorians. Jack post. Always on the lookout. Good spot. Jacko.
S12: No, as far as I'm aware, there was a previous
S12: manager here between the previous owners, a spectacular, and a
S12: Ricky Aboriginal Corporation taking it over. There was a great
S12: deal of fighting between the two of them, and it
S12: resulted in all sorts of silliness. Yeah.
S4: Give us the top three silly incidents.
S12: Well, it's far as I'm aware that particular altercation wound
S12: up with original coming down below the bridge about 15
S12: minutes before each each tour to basically fill up the
S12: crocodiles at this end of the river with food before
S12: our boats went out.
S4: Oh, and a full croc won't jump.
S12: Well, basically, there's no point if you've already been already
S12: had a fed, why would you go and do some
S12: more work?
S4: Yeah, that's a good sneaky trick.
S12: So that apparently went on for a while, and that
S12: resulted in all sorts of fights and bits and pieces.
S4: Jack, is that the crocodile you called? Yeah, it's like
S4: a goanna.
S7: Technically cook it all like it's a baby, right?
S3: Well, in some, in some respects harder to to point out, Jacko.
S3: So that would be not as exciting.
S7: How old is that, crocodile?
S12: Was I genuinely. It could be. I'd say under ten minutes.
S12: Maybe under 3 or 4 years. What do you reckon, Wookie? Yeah,
S12: 2 to 3 at most.
S3: Yeah. Really?
S4: Okay. So sorry we were. That gives it some realism though,
S4: doesn't it? Having a chat with the crocodile, we.
S12: Just randomly turn up.
S3: We heard from a bloke at the pub. Where's that?
S3: That said, there was a sideswipe from one boat to
S3: another at one point. Does that ever happen?
S12: I'm not aware of anything. He thought it.
S4: Was like in the 90s.
S12: No? Well, it could well be the I personally work
S12: for for Sony down at original.
S3: Really? You jumped ship? Well, literally 20 years ago, five.
S12: 26 years ago.
S4: Okay.
S12: Um.
S3: Were you part of the shenanigans at original?
S12: Yeah, yeah. So I was loyal to a paycheck.
S4: Okay, so you've conducted operations on both sides.
S3: I did, for a little while. I was.
S12: I was.
S4: Mercenary.
S12: Well, yeah. Look, I want a paycheck.
S4: Yeah, well, we get it. What?
S3: What did you do?
S12: Things like? We had.
S3: It used to have a huge.
S12: Road sign on the back of a vehicle, and it
S12: was really silly, but we used to have to go
S12: down and park at our front gate every drive. The
S12: 3 or 4 K's down the road every day and
S12: park it at our front gate.
S3: I think it's.
S12: Spectacular. Spectacular.
S4: So you cover their sign? Yeah, yeah, great. Because we
S4: notice out on the highway now coming in, there's still
S4: a sign from original saying. As you head down here
S4: to spectacular, there's a sign that goes, if you're looking
S4: for original, turn around and go another three kilometres.
S12: That's a bugbear of mine.
S4: That's how when you were coming into a live situation
S4: that needs peace, when you've got competing signs steering each
S4: other away from each other's businesses.
S12: The sign, the sign thing has always been a constant
S12: fight between the two of them. At one stage, one
S12: of the operators here, I said, had 16 road signs
S12: in a two kilometre space.
S4: It seems to me you know how they talk about like, oh, look,
S4: Russia and America might not go to war, but there'll
S4: be a cyber war. Yeah, right. It seems they sign wars.
S4: This is a sign of cyber war. This seems like that.
S12: As a sign. Sign? Arms race. Yeah.
S4: This seems like the main weapon is signs and signage. Yeah,
S4: it is like cross, isn't it? Very territorial. Just fighting
S4: for your patch of river.
S12: I'll give him full credit for some of the things
S12: that he's done in the past.
S3: How is your relationship with him now?
S12: It's not bad, like I. I get on all right,
S12: like I don't have to duck the next time I
S12: see him. Well, we.
S4: Hope that could be this afternoon. Whereas because we're here,
S4: we're on the river. We've come to make peace. Even
S4: though he's not in business currently, we still think peace
S4: is a worthy pursuit.
S12: Oh, absolutely.
S3: Bygones.
S4: Do you think it is?
S3: Well he does, yes.
S4: We said yes. So it's not just a trip so
S4: we can come up here and see crocodiles and ride
S4: jet skis and stay at the casino. It's a real
S4: peace trip, and we want it to happen this afternoon
S4: in about about half an hour's time. All right, now
S4: we've got our location. You're willing to be there is. Absolutely.
S4: Tony says he's thinking about it.
S12: That'll be interesting.
S4: I've got five different plaques that will celebrate the various
S4: outcomes depending on whether or not Tony was there. But
S4: I needed you there, whereas we needed you there because
S4: we can't have a peace deal without any side of
S4: the parties there.
S12: Let's let's do it.
S4: Let's do it. Let's do it. All right. We'll finish
S4: the tour. We'll hop off and go and get organised.
S4: Fingers crossed Tony shows up. Let it be known. We
S4: can still do a peace deal with one side. Andy,
S4: do you agree?
S3: Oh, totally. And. And can I just say spectacular out here?
S4: It is spectacular out here. Can't recommend it. Hollywood.
S12: Well it's a very original tour.
S4: Well that is debatable, but. All right. Thanks, boys. We'll
S4: see you at the peace deal.
S3: All right.
S4: Look forward to this, mate.
S2: To recap, the Hamish and Andy podcast is on an
S2: epic mission in the Northern Territory to bring peace in
S2: the North and end a decades long feud between two
S2: Jumping Croc tours. Anticipation was high for the 3:30 p.m.
S2: Peace Summit, which was to be attended by Wes from spectacular. Absolutely.
S2: And maybe by Tony from original.
S9: Yeah, I might.
S2: So in the shadow of the disputed Territory Bridge, we
S2: join our intrepid peace mission from the carpark of the
S2: recently closed original croc jumping tours.
S3: Where the original. Yeah. Are you nervous?
S4: Yeah, we can see. We can see. The boarded up
S4: original croc jumping to is in the background.
S3: Wes was happy to come to original turf. He's happy
S3: to play an away game, which was nice of him.
S7: Yeah, especially because the guy who's playing a home game
S7: isn't here.
S4: That is rare. Isn't it rare for the home team
S4: to take a holiday? Yeah, for the big match. However,
S4: we push on with negotiations. Andy.
S3: 15 minutes. We've got, by the way, 15 minutes. And
S3: then we either we either know he meant to call
S3: him or 15 minutes, he either picks up or he doesn't.
S4: Pace or not, I can't believe. Just take a moment
S4: for a second to think about how long this has
S4: been and how many options we had to Peter this
S4: thing out and we didn't take him. That's really like,
S4: that's one victory for for the show, isn't it? Is
S4: there a plaque.
S3: That reflects that.
S4: The blocks are pretty triumphant, right? Okay. Well here's the
S4: here's the thing. Yeah. I got us five plaques that
S4: I think cover off most of the permutations that we
S4: could face. I realized I didn't have one that covers
S4: off with saying I'm not coming either. Okay. But you
S4: know what? I might I might actually have that. Okay.
S4: Plaque number one, if things go really well, we will
S4: lay this plaque down in 15 minutes time on this site.
S4: A business piece was negotiated between spectacular croc jumping tours
S4: and original croc jumping tours by the Hamish and Eddie podcast.
S4: The piece is valid regardless of operational status of either company.
S4: Date of peace mid to late 2023. Now I did
S4: that so in future generations they don't pin the date
S4: on us to go. Hang on. Didn't original close the
S4: weekend before so let's just keep the dates vague. That's plaque.
S3: Keep that on hand because that's the one.
S4: That's the one. That's what we hope to lay down
S4: as we try.
S3: Tony for the fifth time.
S4: Yeah.
S3: He hasn't picked up. So we can start to probably
S3: put that plaque back.
S4: If we can't get Tony on the phone, we then
S4: move to this. On this site, a small business piece
S4: was proposed by the Hamish Nandi Podcast and two local
S4: croc jumping operations. Sadly, due to logistical difficulties, not everyone
S4: could be present to achieve a definitive result. But the
S4: feeling on this day was certainly one of peace which counts.
S4: Great date of feeling mid to late 2023. Lock number three. Yes,
S4: this keeps it vague. Okay. On this site, the concept
S4: of business peace between spectacular tours and original camping tours
S4: was discussed and celebrated as a concept. I was facilitated
S4: by the ABC 90 podcast.
S3: Neither of them rock up.
S4: That's if neither of them rock up. And it's also
S4: if they turn up and they say, where's they're not
S4: that keen.
S7: Yeah. Or they don't give compliments or something.
S4: So they're not willing to follow through on all the
S4: stipulations of the piece. But we can still say without lying,
S4: it was discussed and celebrated as a concept.
S3: If one calls the other one, that's. Yeah, yeah, that's
S3: what we're reaching for because.
S4: We'll be celebrating pieces of concept. Yes. And the discussions
S4: were facilitated by us. So that's a good note. I
S4: feel like we've got all.
S3: Bases covered, but I still see two.
S4: More plaques. Yeah. Okay. On this site, plaques. Number four,
S4: a small business piece was rejected by one or more
S4: parties involved in the podcast. And that's more if we
S4: want to go honest broker in the piece in the
S4: North croc jumping business peace talks date of rejection. This
S4: is actually the only plaque that covers a flat out loss.
S13: Yeah.
S4: Which I just thought of. Throw it in there as
S4: an option. I'm not I'm not a fan of it
S4: because it paints us like a failure. Failure? Yeah. But
S4: I don't mind. The idea.
S3: Is not I don't.
S4: Mind the idea of being the world's, I would say
S4: only plaque that commemorates.
S7: Something that it.
S3: Didn't like.
S4: On this site. We invited the Prime Minister to come
S4: and open the building. He couldn't make it. I like
S4: the idea of a very honest. That's good. Yes, final
S4: plaque is just the best. Not lying I could think of. Okay, right.
S4: This makes it sound no matter what the result. This
S4: just makes it sound like a win for us boys. Regardless,
S4: on this side, the Hamish and Andy podcast weighed up
S4: all available evidence in the rivalry between original croc jumping
S4: tours and spectacular jumping tours, and we're very happy to
S4: triumphantly proclaim peace in the North. That's perfect date of
S4: triumph mid to late 2023. So. So when you dig
S4: into it, all we have to do is weigh up
S4: the evidence and see if we were still happy to
S4: try and. Simply proclaim peace in the North.
S7: And I get a good feeling that we will keep.
S4: Well, let's just see which one we go with.
S3: Yes. Well, let's set up a table outside. We've got
S3: a mannequin. Yeah.
S4: You got a mannequin. We're going to gaffer tape the
S4: iPad to its head.
S3: And I think we've got the best replica we can
S3: of Tony's clothes, so I think we might not even
S3: tell the difference.
S4: Oh, yeah, he should fall for it. You guys ready
S4: to bring peace to the north? Yes, yes, yes, boys.
S3: Peace to all. Peace to us. Jet ski to. It
S3: is also into our jet ski.
S4: Soon. Then we go check in at the castle. Okay?
S2: And so it was time. Mannequin in place. Zoom meeting online.
S2: Agents of peace at the ready. All the boys needed
S2: now was both Tony and Wes to come together in
S2: the name of peace in the North.
S4: Here we are. We're at the negotiating table. Where's? He's
S4: not here yet. The zoom waiting room is waiting. Ready?
S4: We're just. We've just set everything up. We've got a
S4: giant crocs skull on the table. I think.
S3: A perfectly portioned mannequin for Tony with a shirt that
S3: he would normally wear.
S4: And iPad gaffer taped to the head of the mannequins.
S3: Where's this arriving? Yes. God, yes, it would have. That
S3: would have been the all time stitch up if he
S3: just told us to our face that he was going
S3: to come and then didn't turn up.
S4: We have the plaque for it though we do have.
S4: We do the plaque. We have the plaque for it.
S4: What have we got, Jack? You've got the plaques.
S7: I've got all five plaques. And from here we've got
S7: a great view of the actual bridge as well, which
S7: is the dividing point between the two. You can understand
S7: it to us, Jack.
S3: Understand why now? We wouldn't do a meeting on it.
S3: It's like a thoroughfare, semi-trailer freeway. It'd be.
S7: No make no sense for this table. And these chairs
S7: set up to be in the middle of the bridge?
S4: No. What? It makes sense for you to be strapping
S4: C4 to it right now to blow it up the.
S7: I don't know, having been here and seeing that people
S7: use it to get from one side of the river
S7: to the other, I don't think we should blow it up.
S7: One of those.
S4: Bridges, Jack has positioned himself on a folding chair so
S4: he can look directly at the bridge without having to
S4: turn to his left.
S3: Still nursing that slight neck injury.
S7: He's getting better, though.
S6: That's good. He comes with.
S3: It. Comes with thank you mate.
S4: Thank you for coming to the talks.
S3: We have two minutes from when we said we'd try
S3: and connect Tony if he decides to connect, whereas just quickly.
S3: Does that look a lot like Tony?
S12: Yeah. If you squint hard enough. Yeah, that's pretty close.
S4: A shirt like that.
S3: Okay. We've set up a zoom. He said he'd lock.
S3: Oh my God.
S4: Oh, there we are. Tony, can you hear us?
S9: I certainly can.
S4: Oh my God.
S3: Tony, can you see us? Yes. And you've got where's here.
S12: Oh yeah. Mr. Bloom, I.
S14: Go where's there two. Yeah.
S12: Wait. How are you, buddy?
S9: Good.
S14: Where's. Jeez.
S4: This is beautiful. This is. This is lovely.
S3: Just quickly. Tony, how are you feeling? How are the emotions?
S9: Oh, look, I guess I've got to say I'm bored.
S9: Hell as hell. Just waiting for you to turn up.
S4: Well, we first want to recognize both of you gentlemen,
S4: the great Spirit and the goodwill. With you've shown coming
S4: together to sit here at these two plastic outdoor tables
S4: covered by an official cloth. We followed the dramas. Our
S4: listeners have followed the dramas and the stories, the stories
S4: of decades of shenanigans. But today, I think there's a
S4: wonderful mood in the air as we put that all
S4: to bed. Andy.
S3: Yes, we thought for ease. Gentlemen, we're going to read
S3: out something kind of like a marriage, and all you
S3: have to do is say, I do, and I do. So, Hamish,
S3: you've got the the details there. Are you ready to
S3: read that out?
S4: We'll start with you. Where's where's do you agree that
S4: all small business shenanigans between spectacular and original, up to
S4: and especially including sign based warfare, are officially in the past?
S12: Absolutely.
S4: We have won.
S3: I have won, Tony.
S4: Tony, do you agree that all small business based shenanigans
S4: between spectacular and original, up to and especially including sign
S4: based warfare, are officially in the past?
S14: Well, yeah, they are.
S3: Just the where they are was fine. That's just against.
S4: Yes. Okay. We got two yeses now.
S3: Now the final bit of the peace process is the
S3: passing of a compliment from one to the other. Wes,
S3: we'll start with you. Do you have a compliment for Tony?
S12: You look fantastic, Tony.
S3: That's great.
S4: Okay. That's nice, that's lovely.
S3: Tony.
S4: Tony, do you.
S3: Have a compliment for where's.
S14: Where's is.
S9: The best operator on the north side of the bridge.
S9: And I'm the best operator on the south side.
S4: Yeah, I reckon that's pretty good.
S3: You that compliment.
S12: Thank you. Tony.
S4: Since the pledge has been agreed to and the compliments
S4: have been exchanged.
S3: One last thing to Hamish. Would you remove Tony's so
S3: words can shake it? Yeah.
S4: Can do. Sorry about this time.
S12: I think you may drop him if you go that way, boys.
S12: There we go.
S3: Perfect. And, Tony, would you mind just mimicking handshaking just
S3: so it looks like you are as well. Just reach
S3: out with your lovely. Okay.
S4: By the power vested in us as peace envoys, we
S4: now declare taste in the north.
S15: Taste in the north. There's a peace in the north.
S15: I did not expect Tony to be triumphantly raising his
S15: arm up. Joan, you're a legend. Whoa!
S2: So, with peace very much intact. And the mannequin? Less so,
S2: all that remained was to lay a plaque commemorating the
S2: heroic efforts of our peace force in the north.
S3: What plaque did you choose?
S4: We went with. We were able to do the best
S4: case scenario where we. Jack.
S7: This is the best of the best.
S4: We have now sunk into the dirt outside. The location
S4: was on this side of business. Peace was negotiated between
S4: spectacular croc jumping tours and original croc jumping tours by
S4: the Hamish Unity podcast. This piece is valid regardless of
S4: operational status of either company. Date of peace mid to
S4: late 2020.
S7: Congratulations fellas. Well done guys. I'm really proud of.
S4: Policing the North. Well done.
S3: Really proud of us. Really proud. And Jacko, you did it.
S4: Wounded.
S3: Yeah.
S4: See, where am I?
S3: See that dick? See, you left just as quickly for you, Jackal,
S3: as peace discussions were unfolding. Were you just quickly scanning
S3: all five plaques? Like which ones are going to be?
S4: Because at the end, you handed me the perfect pass. Yes.
S4: So well done.
S7: And thank you for making me feel like I had
S7: a valid role, because for a lot of that, I
S7: sat there and it's true, I wasn't I wasn't doing anything.
S7: So thank you for making me feel included.
S4: Let me be really clear about this.
S3: Block selection was very critical.
S4: And but on that we all had a very valid role. Yes.
S4: Having said that, peace is now achieved. So I suppose
S4: with some time left in the day, have we got to.
S3: Oh, I do have a bit of spare.
S4: Time because our jetski tour is still.
S3: Is that still on?
S4: Oh great.
S15: Three cheers for.
S3: Peace. Yes. Three cheers for peace. Who'd like a great northern?
S4: Yes. Yes. Peace.
UU: Thanks for listening.
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