WEBVTT - Jess Tried Yoni Steaming… and Things Got Weird 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:04.240 A listener production. 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:10.840 Only do what we wanna. No rules. Yeah, we're gonna 0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:16.439 gonna stay ish. Where do you wanna go? Where do 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:17.360 you wanna go? 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:23.120 Hey, babe. Hey. How are you? So good. How was 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:26.680 your weekend? Busy? Yeah. So busy. Just with kids. I 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:34.080 had training, basketball games, finals, dance concerts. How was your weekend? Uh, crazy. 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:40.880 Absolutely crazy. So maybe three cricket games, athletics, three parties. 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:43.760 Then we went up to Arthur's Seat, which is little. 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:47.280 Little country property. And, you know, I've got the biggest 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:50.560 fear of spiders, right? Like, I actually got myself kicked 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:52.919 off The Amazing Race TV show last year because I 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:55.760 wouldn't eat a spider. I wouldn't even stand in the restaurant. Yes, 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:59.000 I know. So we were spending our first night on 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:01.780 the On the weekend after a five month build in 0:01:01.780 --> 0:01:04.220 this new property, and I'd got the pest guy out 0:01:04.220 --> 0:01:07.259 the week before and I said, spray outside, spray inside. 0:01:07.260 --> 0:01:09.780 I'm not going in there until it's done. So we 0:01:09.780 --> 0:01:11.940 sprayed it so it's all good. We're sitting there, we're 0:01:11.980 --> 0:01:14.699 watching the cricket, having a nice hot chocolate. I looked 0:01:14.700 --> 0:01:16.300 up at the ceiling. What do you think I see? 0:01:16.900 --> 0:01:20.420 Oh, God. I could just only imagine. Yeah, a huntsman 0:01:20.420 --> 0:01:22.580 or even just the tiniest spider. You would freak. 0:01:22.620 --> 0:01:26.700 It was a huntsman. I died, I said, Chris, sell 0:01:26.700 --> 0:01:29.339 the house. If no one wants it, burn it down. 0:01:29.340 --> 0:01:31.100 I am never coming back here. 0:01:31.220 --> 0:01:31.700 Oh, my God. 0:01:31.700 --> 0:01:33.660 I just can't. If it was a snake, I'd be fine. 0:01:33.660 --> 0:01:34.940 I would have got the broom and I would have 0:01:34.940 --> 0:01:37.380 pushed it out. I'm fine with bugs. I'm fine with snakes. 0:01:37.380 --> 0:01:38.660 But a spider? Nah. 0:01:38.660 --> 0:01:41.220 But other than that, was it a good weekend? 0:01:41.220 --> 0:01:45.459 I just think four kids is a lot. You've got three, right? Yeah. 0:01:45.500 --> 0:01:49.860 Anything over two I think is like too many. 0:01:49.900 --> 0:01:51.940 Yeah. You know what? You do have a lot of kids. 0:01:51.940 --> 0:01:54.940 It's a lot of chaos. And just to spread yourself. Yeah. 0:01:55.020 --> 0:01:56.380 Between the four of them. 0:01:56.380 --> 0:01:57.300 And the house and the. 0:01:57.300 --> 0:01:59.360 Work. Yeah, yeah. I don't know how you do it. 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:00.440 I struggle with three. 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:02.520 Yeah, Three's a lot. I think with two, you can 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:05.000 divide and conquer. And then anything after that is is 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:09.720 absolute chaos. Uh, so even my kids, like, will be 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:11.400 in the car and I'll be screaming at one of them. 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:14.000 I'm threatening one to walk out, like to get kicked 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:17.320 out of the car and walk home. One's always injured 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:20.519 or has some medical issue or the school's calling about something. 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:23.640 There's always stuff popping off and the kids in the 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:26.640 car when I'm screaming at them, just say, mom, when 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:28.079 we grow up, we don't think we're going to have 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:31.320 four kids. There's too many. I'm like, yes, God. Not 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:33.160 that I would swap any of them. 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:33.680 Yeah, yeah. 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:36.120 Yeah, I would not trade any of my kids in, 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:38.600 but man, I would not recommend four. 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:40.680 It is a different level. I have to agree. I 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:44.080 have seen it firsthand with your children, especially with Tom 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:46.600 and Darcy licking the window, the window of the car 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:49.359 as the window goes down. Yeah, I just I don't 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:52.040 know how you do it, but you know what? What? 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:54.120 You've had four come out of you. Yeah. I'm going 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:56.120 to talk about what went at me this week. 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:57.190 I love. 0:02:57.190 --> 0:02:59.630 It. It was definitely not a child. 0:03:00.710 --> 0:03:01.150 What was. 0:03:01.150 --> 0:03:04.750 It? So this week I got my fanny steamed. 0:03:05.150 --> 0:03:08.750 Also known as the yoni. The yoni, yoni steam. 0:03:08.750 --> 0:03:11.630 So yeah. Had that done this week. Very interesting. 0:03:11.669 --> 0:03:14.030 That's the thing. On this podcast, we're going to bring 0:03:14.030 --> 0:03:17.430 you all the wellness and beauty treatments. You are the 0:03:17.470 --> 0:03:19.550 wanted to try or you didn't know you needed to try. 0:03:19.830 --> 0:03:23.790 And we thought Yoni, assuming we'd always kind of like, 0:03:23.830 --> 0:03:27.270 talked about it and wondered about it and you. 0:03:27.310 --> 0:03:28.109 Like I committed. 0:03:28.190 --> 0:03:30.030 You committed. You took one for the team. 0:03:30.030 --> 0:03:30.790 I did, I took one. 0:03:30.830 --> 0:03:32.270 We had a yoni steam party. 0:03:32.310 --> 0:03:32.830 We did. 0:03:32.910 --> 0:03:35.430 So picture this, guys, there's a throne. You sit on 0:03:35.430 --> 0:03:37.350 the throne, it's got a hole cut out. And that's 0:03:37.350 --> 0:03:40.190 where you steam the tea leaves that go up into 0:03:40.190 --> 0:03:43.190 your vulva area. We steam the tea, and then you 0:03:43.230 --> 0:03:45.350 sat on the throne, and then you thought it's not 0:03:45.350 --> 0:03:49.790 really doing enough. So we steamed it and then popped 0:03:49.790 --> 0:03:52.150 it under. And I think the risk is like, when 0:03:52.150 --> 0:03:53.710 you do this for the first time, you think it's 0:03:53.710 --> 0:03:56.090 going to burn you and you don't want to fire Fanny, right? 0:03:56.130 --> 0:03:56.810 Yep. So you go by. 0:03:56.810 --> 0:03:58.369 You haven't had a fire Fanny before? 0:03:58.690 --> 0:04:00.890 No, no. So I just kind of thought, like we 0:04:00.930 --> 0:04:03.810 went with the instructions. It said boil for 15 minutes 0:04:03.930 --> 0:04:06.330 on in a pot and then leave it for five 0:04:06.330 --> 0:04:08.210 to rest and cool down and then put it under 0:04:08.210 --> 0:04:10.610 your throne. So we did that. But then I didn't 0:04:10.610 --> 0:04:12.890 feel the heat. So we went back to the stove 0:04:13.170 --> 0:04:16.849 and we prepared it again, and at full boil we 0:04:16.850 --> 0:04:19.090 put it under the the throne at full boil. But 0:04:19.089 --> 0:04:22.489 I still had to really think about the steam going 0:04:22.490 --> 0:04:24.089 up there. But then also I felt like my legs 0:04:24.089 --> 0:04:25.010 weren't spread enough. 0:04:25.170 --> 0:04:28.810 Mate, your legs were spread so much by the end 0:04:28.810 --> 0:04:30.650 it was like you were doing the splits. Yeah. And 0:04:30.650 --> 0:04:32.370 I actually said to Jesse, like, I can't feel it, 0:04:32.370 --> 0:04:35.170 it's not going up. I'm like, oh, that's oh, she's 0:04:35.170 --> 0:04:37.170 so cute as a button down there. I said, babe, 0:04:37.170 --> 0:04:39.850 get the fingers in, spread the flies. I literally had. 0:04:39.850 --> 0:04:42.810 To I had to like, spread my flaps to like, 0:04:43.170 --> 0:04:45.690 get the tea up there. And it just I still 0:04:45.730 --> 0:04:46.890 kind of didn't feel much. 0:04:46.890 --> 0:04:48.930 But you know what? I think that the whole point 0:04:48.930 --> 0:04:52.490 of it is, upon reflection, it is supposed to be 0:04:52.970 --> 0:04:56.150 a slow Low steam. It's not meant to be hot. 0:04:56.190 --> 0:04:59.830 It's not meant to set you on fire. Yeah, that's 0:04:59.830 --> 0:05:01.350 why they say you're meant to sit on it for 0:05:01.350 --> 0:05:02.590 45 minutes. 0:05:02.589 --> 0:05:04.830 Which we did. And then about 20 minutes in, I 0:05:04.830 --> 0:05:06.990 did feel something. I had to think about it, but 0:05:06.990 --> 0:05:10.909 then I it felt like spicy, as if, like I 0:05:10.910 --> 0:05:15.790 just wiped myself subtly with toothpaste. Like it felt minty fresh. 0:05:15.790 --> 0:05:16.870 Minty. In a good way. 0:05:16.910 --> 0:05:19.029 In a good way. Yeah. So yeah. 0:05:19.070 --> 0:05:23.070 In three words, describe the experience of your yoni steam. 0:05:23.310 --> 0:05:30.510 So I would describe it as spicy. Ooh, yeah. Yeah. Spicy. Interesting. 0:05:30.830 --> 0:05:33.990 And also like underwhelming. A little bit. 0:05:34.029 --> 0:05:36.830 Underwhelming. Like, what were you expecting to happen? 0:05:36.870 --> 0:05:39.270 I think I was expecting to sit on this magical 0:05:39.270 --> 0:05:43.349 throne and this, like, heat of steam of all these 0:05:43.350 --> 0:05:45.830 amazing smells. We're just going to go up my hoo ha. 0:05:45.830 --> 0:05:48.550 And it was just going to be like, orgasmic. Yeah. 0:05:48.589 --> 0:05:50.029 Like I was going to have an orgasm on the 0:05:50.070 --> 0:05:51.110 on my throne. Like, I. 0:05:51.110 --> 0:05:51.470 Didn't. 0:05:51.550 --> 0:05:52.110 Know, and I didn't. 0:05:52.110 --> 0:05:53.450 Know you were going to getting an orgasm right in 0:05:53.450 --> 0:05:53.850 front of me. 0:05:53.890 --> 0:05:54.770 Yeah, yeah. I wouldn't. 0:05:54.770 --> 0:05:57.290 Have cared. And your dogs. And my dog. Your little 0:05:57.290 --> 0:06:00.810 puppies were sitting there watching you the whole time, just going, 0:06:00.850 --> 0:06:02.690 what the hell is she doing? And then they were 0:06:02.730 --> 0:06:04.730 trying to eat me. Eat the tea. 0:06:05.770 --> 0:06:07.370 Quite a lot of things went down after it. 0:06:07.450 --> 0:06:09.370 The next week. Drama. 0:06:09.529 --> 0:06:12.850 Drama. It's not even drama. It was trauma. So I'm 0:06:12.850 --> 0:06:15.089 really excited to have a professional on today. Who we 0:06:15.130 --> 0:06:15.410 got on. 0:06:15.410 --> 0:06:19.850 We've got Doctor Christy Costello's coming on. She is a 0:06:19.930 --> 0:06:25.089 doctor who specialises in faces and fannies. She's excellent. She's 0:06:25.089 --> 0:06:29.890 perfect to answer all of your questions. 0:06:31.250 --> 0:06:36.210 The name is doctor Christy. 0:06:36.250 --> 0:06:38.450 Costello's doctor. Christy, how are you? 0:06:38.690 --> 0:06:40.770 I am really well. Thank you so much for having me. 0:06:41.290 --> 0:06:44.410 Oh, thank you so much for coming on. Little backstory. 0:06:44.410 --> 0:06:47.210 So you and I met very recently at a conference, 0:06:47.370 --> 0:06:51.330 and you were there with your, your faces hat on 0:06:51.330 --> 0:06:54.880 because it because it was like a cosmetics conference. And 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:57.080 then you started talking about women's health. I was like, 0:06:57.080 --> 0:07:01.760 this is perfect because we need someone who knows about cosmetics, 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:04.039 but also can help with women's health. And you said, yeah, 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:06.719 pretty much. I'm known as the faces and fannies expert. 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:11.679 I'm like, you are our girl faces and fannies. Love it. 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:12.440 All the orifices. 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:13.240 All the lips. 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:15.440 So welcome, Doctor Christie. I would love to know your 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:18.520 qualifications around faces and fannies. 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:22.120 I've got a Bachelor of medical science. I also have 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:24.640 a and I majored in immunology in that. And then 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:26.880 I've got a Bachelor of Medicine and a Bachelor of 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:29.920 Surgery with an honours component to that. I have a 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:33.440 master's in women's reproductive medicine. I have a diploma of 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:37.200 child Health. I also have a master's in forensic medicine, 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:40.160 and I'm also a fellow of the Royal Australasian College 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:43.320 of General Practice. So I'm a fellow GP. 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:47.360 A round of applause. Are you still studying? You know what, babe? 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:49.160 You're never going to pay that debt off. 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:49.920 Ever. 0:07:50.420 --> 0:07:53.540 So, Doctor Christie, tell us, what is Yoni steaming? 0:07:53.860 --> 0:07:57.260 So Yoni steaming is it's actually a traditional practice that's 0:07:57.260 --> 0:08:00.660 been around for millennia, I think. Um, but it is 0:08:00.660 --> 0:08:04.619 effectively vaginal steaming. So it's a practice where a human 0:08:04.620 --> 0:08:08.740 being sits over a bowl of steaming, herbally infused water 0:08:09.220 --> 0:08:11.380 and allows the steam to sort of, like, come up 0:08:11.380 --> 0:08:14.140 and reach the vaginal and perineal system. And it's it's 0:08:14.140 --> 0:08:17.140 believed to have some therapeutic and cleansing benefits. 0:08:17.460 --> 0:08:21.820 Is there any evidence to say that yoni steaming has 0:08:21.820 --> 0:08:23.580 any health benefits? 0:08:23.820 --> 0:08:27.300 Not really. Not that I could find or no. What 0:08:27.300 --> 0:08:28.060 have we done to you? 0:08:28.180 --> 0:08:28.980 Steaming. 0:08:29.020 --> 0:08:33.380 You know, like dedicated people, but I looked, I really looked. 0:08:33.500 --> 0:08:34.660 What is it used for? 0:08:34.780 --> 0:08:37.300 So it's a traditional practice. I think it started in 0:08:37.300 --> 0:08:39.579 Korea a very, very long time ago. So it does 0:08:39.580 --> 0:08:43.100 come from those really long standing roots. But you basically 0:08:43.140 --> 0:08:46.380 sit over a bowl. Um, and there's normally some steam 0:08:46.380 --> 0:08:49.640 that's infused with all kinds of things, like herbal, mostly. 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:53.240 And you allow the steam to give you a facial 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:54.680 in your other face? 0:08:56.160 --> 0:09:00.320 Well, I had the very crazy experience doing it. It 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:02.880 was very underwhelming when I actually did it, but. 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:05.160 She couldn't get the steam in. And she she's sitting 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:09.199 on the throne. Doctor Christie, which we built was from Amazon. 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:13.960 And it had a little it's like a little wooden 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:16.520 toilet seat that's not connected to any plumbing. And then 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:20.400 you steam the tea. The tea had camomile, lavender. 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:21.599 Dandelion. 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:23.400 Wood. Woodworm, woodworm. 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:28.560 Yeah. Something woodworm which is known for. It's good for parasites. 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:31.200 It's good for detoxing, all that sort of stuff. So 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:32.520 that's what I was looking at. A lot of the 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:35.640 teas and a lot of teas had that particular, um, 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:36.800 herb in it anyway. 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:39.200 You weren't really getting it up there, right? So I 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:41.360 said split them. Spread them. 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:41.520 Yeah. 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:43.959 Do it all. And you sat for about 45 minutes, 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:45.880 and then at the end you stood up and you went, oh, 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:48.100 there's a little bit of air bubble. And we're feeling 0:09:48.100 --> 0:09:49.260 a little bit spicy. 0:09:49.300 --> 0:09:53.500 Yeah. Minty spicy kind of feeling. I actually was due 0:09:53.500 --> 0:09:56.220 for my period and that day. That day. 0:09:56.260 --> 0:09:59.300 And she's never late, doctor Christie. Jess is never, ever, 0:09:59.300 --> 0:10:00.220 ever late. 0:10:00.260 --> 0:10:00.860 Never late. 0:10:00.900 --> 0:10:02.260 Never late. Only when you're pregnant. 0:10:02.340 --> 0:10:06.340 Only when I'm pregnant. And I was nine days late. Nine. 0:10:06.820 --> 0:10:07.940 Oh, God. I'm pregnant. 0:10:08.140 --> 0:10:11.300 I had five pregnancy tests I was sitting there doing. 0:10:11.340 --> 0:10:15.060 I've been all week sitting on tests every morning, doing 0:10:15.059 --> 0:10:17.020 a test, doing a test, doing. And it's all negative. 0:10:17.020 --> 0:10:18.820 And I've been stressed that she's going to be pregnant 0:10:18.820 --> 0:10:19.740 and wreck summer. 0:10:19.780 --> 0:10:21.620 Yeah, yeah. Yes. 0:10:21.660 --> 0:10:24.100 We go to Dom Dolla this weekend. Don't you wreck 0:10:24.140 --> 0:10:26.980 our raise the baby. Yes, yes. 0:10:27.020 --> 0:10:30.660 And it does say do not steam if you are pregnant. 0:10:30.780 --> 0:10:32.660 So I was sitting there going, oh God, I've done 0:10:32.660 --> 0:10:34.020 all this damage already. 0:10:34.340 --> 0:10:36.819 You were nine days late. And then that night. 0:10:37.020 --> 0:10:40.179 Yeah. So that night I actually went to bed and 0:10:40.179 --> 0:10:43.220 I woke up in a pool of sweat. I was 0:10:43.220 --> 0:10:45.540 full night sweats. Full night sweats. I had to change 0:10:45.540 --> 0:10:47.680 the sheets because I was so sweaty. 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:51.120 Do you think this is related to the yoni steam? 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:53.320 Do you know? Do you know what I've noticed? In fact, 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:55.480 they've got like, a Latin saying for it because a 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:58.160 lot of medicine has like a Latin background. If you're 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:00.840 like British trained, Australian trained. I've noticed this a lot 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:03.000 in medicine. And there's a Latin saying for it, and 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:05.360 I'm probably going to butcher it, but it's like post 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:08.200 hoc ergo propter hoc, right? And really what it means 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:12.680 is A happened and then B happened. So we think 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:16.760 that B happened because A happened. And so more of 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:18.559 what I'm trying to say is I get patients all 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:20.680 the time where they're like, oh, I got this treatment. 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:23.080 And two days later I got a headache. They must 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:27.200 be related. But really, they're two totally unrelated things. But 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:31.120 we've just tied them together because they occurred around about 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:32.160 the same time. 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:34.599 So coincidental. 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:37.800 Maybe it could be I would. I mean, it's a 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:40.800 little bit interesting that you're so regular with your period 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:44.160 and then really randomly, you aren't. 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:44.640 Are you thinking. 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:46.230 What I'm thinking? The answer she wants. 0:11:47.309 --> 0:11:49.309 I'm 34. Okay. 0:11:49.750 --> 0:11:51.030 Say it. Say the p word. 0:11:51.070 --> 0:11:53.750 Can come really early for some women. 0:11:53.790 --> 0:11:54.670 Oh. 0:11:54.750 --> 0:11:55.710 How old are you? 34. 0:11:55.870 --> 0:11:56.390 34. 0:11:56.429 --> 0:11:58.709 That's what I was when you said night sweats. Period's late. 0:11:58.710 --> 0:12:01.830 And then when it's come and you've hemorrhaged so much. 0:12:01.870 --> 0:12:02.270 It was, like. 0:12:02.470 --> 0:12:05.910 Irregular. Babe, I think you're in, Perry. And tell Doctor 0:12:05.910 --> 0:12:07.150 Christie about grandma. 0:12:07.190 --> 0:12:10.309 My grandmother was 32 when she went through menopause. 0:12:10.470 --> 0:12:11.990 That is not fun for you. 0:12:12.150 --> 0:12:15.110 No, that's why I had babies at 21. So, Perry. 0:12:15.750 --> 0:12:18.869 Maybe. Maybe it's just a coincidence. Who knows? 0:12:19.110 --> 0:12:21.150 I mean, the science would tell you it'd be a 0:12:21.150 --> 0:12:24.070 little bit weird, cause obviously I'm a science based human, 0:12:24.070 --> 0:12:25.990 so I'm always going to try and bring it back to. 0:12:26.590 --> 0:12:30.150 How can these things logically or pragmatically be explained by 0:12:30.150 --> 0:12:34.870 the science? And I my brain can't get around how 0:12:35.429 --> 0:12:38.590 esteem which maybe didn't go all the way up, because 0:12:38.630 --> 0:12:40.750 that that seems like that would be quite hard to 0:12:40.750 --> 0:12:43.770 get up all the way up there. How would that 0:12:43.770 --> 0:12:46.250 then get through your cervix, which is that little thing 0:12:46.250 --> 0:12:49.689 at the end that's basically like a gate control mechanism. Yeah. 0:12:49.730 --> 0:12:51.329 You know, it's the thing that stretches out to where 0:12:51.330 --> 0:12:53.050 the baby out. But the rest of the time nothing 0:12:53.050 --> 0:12:56.610 is that is very shot. And then all your uterus 0:12:56.610 --> 0:12:59.210 lining and everything, it's all further up than that. So 0:12:59.210 --> 0:13:01.490 how I don't think there would be any way that 0:13:01.490 --> 0:13:03.569 the steam could get all the way up your canal, 0:13:03.970 --> 0:13:06.410 jump through your cervix, and then affect the lining of 0:13:06.410 --> 0:13:10.330 your uterus, which is what your period is. So I'm 0:13:10.330 --> 0:13:12.770 going to go with the coincidence. 0:13:12.809 --> 0:13:13.170 Okay. 0:13:13.650 --> 0:13:14.570 I'm going with Perry. 0:13:15.530 --> 0:13:16.090 Oh, yeah. 0:13:16.490 --> 0:13:19.410 She just she just so wants me to be Perry. 0:13:19.450 --> 0:13:22.170 Come and join the Perry Club, babe. It's fine. We'll 0:13:22.170 --> 0:13:23.170 get you some gel. 0:13:23.210 --> 0:13:23.450 Yes. 0:13:23.450 --> 0:13:24.370 Some oestrogen. 0:13:27.050 --> 0:13:27.970 Gets rid of wrinkles. 0:13:28.010 --> 0:13:31.890 So I guess this is something yoni steaming you probably 0:13:31.890 --> 0:13:34.050 wouldn't recommend as a medical professional. 0:13:34.250 --> 0:13:37.370 No, I mean, I think I think there's some risks, right? 0:13:37.370 --> 0:13:41.090 I'd be really interested, actually. Did you feel like it's steam? Right. 0:13:41.090 --> 0:13:44.950 Which is really hot and you know, you can burn 0:13:44.950 --> 0:13:47.990 that skin down there. I would be worried that maybe 0:13:47.990 --> 0:13:50.110 you're at risk of getting a perineal burn. 0:13:50.470 --> 0:13:51.189 I barely felt. 0:13:51.190 --> 0:13:54.190 It, and we really boiled it. Yeah, yeah, because. 0:13:54.190 --> 0:13:55.309 I wanted to feel something. 0:13:55.429 --> 0:13:57.990 You've had all your children cesarean sections, so it's not 0:13:57.990 --> 0:14:01.270 like you've got any thing down there that would stop feeling. 0:14:01.350 --> 0:14:02.469 Stop you from feeling. 0:14:02.510 --> 0:14:04.710 No, no. Yeah, but I also haven't had a baby. 0:14:04.710 --> 0:14:06.590 Kind of a hoo ha. So it's like. 0:14:06.630 --> 0:14:08.190 Everything. Now that's a real fire, Fanny. 0:14:08.230 --> 0:14:08.510 Yeah. 0:14:08.550 --> 0:14:11.189 I mean, some of the claims on that you see 0:14:11.190 --> 0:14:14.030 online or that that come with the tea, say, you know, 0:14:14.030 --> 0:14:15.069 it helps with. 0:14:15.230 --> 0:14:15.750 Fertility. 0:14:15.790 --> 0:14:21.550 Fertility or menstrual cramps or, you know, post-natal cleansing. I mean, 0:14:21.550 --> 0:14:24.230 there's a lot of claims. And like Doctor Christie said, 0:14:24.230 --> 0:14:26.910 there's there's no medical evidence for it. 0:14:26.990 --> 0:14:29.030 The other reason I really wanted to try it was 0:14:29.030 --> 0:14:32.230 because I don't sleep well. And then there was like, 0:14:32.230 --> 0:14:33.670 there was a lot of women that were saying that 0:14:33.670 --> 0:14:37.350 they sleep better when they had a yoni steam. Parasites 0:14:37.350 --> 0:14:41.850 and hemorrhoids, which most women have after childbirth. So I thought, okay, 0:14:41.850 --> 0:14:44.530 I'm going to give this a go. And I'm so YOLO. Like. 0:14:44.850 --> 0:14:46.170 Yeah, you will try anything? 0:14:46.210 --> 0:14:48.490 I'll try anything once to say I've done it and 0:14:48.490 --> 0:14:49.450 tick the box and. 0:14:49.450 --> 0:14:50.850 Then it's a good story to tell. 0:14:50.890 --> 0:14:53.250 Yeah, yeah, I'm full of stories. 0:14:53.370 --> 0:14:56.690 That's that's Jess's superpower is telling a story. Adding a 0:14:56.690 --> 0:14:59.410 little bit of mayo and entertaining the room. Yeah, yeah. 0:14:59.450 --> 0:15:01.890 Now you can tell everyone you steamed your fanny. Yes. 0:15:01.890 --> 0:15:04.370 And then it got spicy. Then you had night sweats 0:15:04.450 --> 0:15:05.410 and you thought you were pregnant. 0:15:05.410 --> 0:15:06.370 And had to do my pregnancy. 0:15:06.370 --> 0:15:07.090 Test story. 0:15:07.210 --> 0:15:07.650 I know. 0:15:08.410 --> 0:15:12.010 Have you heard any horror, Yoni? Steaming horror stories, Doctor Christie, 0:15:12.050 --> 0:15:12.850 in your research? 0:15:13.010 --> 0:15:16.490 Actually, I have, um, but I think anything that you 0:15:16.490 --> 0:15:18.250 look into enough you can find, like the good and 0:15:18.250 --> 0:15:21.770 the bad. Mhm. Um, so the stories I read about, uh, 0:15:21.770 --> 0:15:27.090 were burns so literally burning their perineum or their vulva 0:15:27.090 --> 0:15:31.370 with the hot steam, so maybe too close to it or, 0:15:31.410 --> 0:15:34.050 you know, not the right things. Maybe in it. I 0:15:34.050 --> 0:15:36.970 mean that would be that's not an area we want 0:15:36.970 --> 0:15:39.570 to get a burn in. Um, and I have also 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:43.120 heard a couple of cases where I'm like, you know, 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:45.240 the data has to be relooked at with a fine 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:47.160 tooth comb because we don't get a lot of the 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:50.120 data when there are these kinds of stories. Right? Because 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:52.360 people just put up with whatever happened to them and 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:55.000 they just stay at home. They're not necessarily writing about 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:55.560 it for us. 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:58.440 To find out. Hey, make me a participant in your 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:02.760 really robust scientific study and let's find some more participants. Oh, really? 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:05.320 Yeah, for some of the other things that I read 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:09.080 about were like the vagina. It's meant to be self cleansing. 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:11.240 Like it does have all of these bacteria in it. 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:14.080 That's really novel. That's it's that's a healthy state for 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:17.440 the vagina to exist in. And we get it into 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:20.960 unhealthy states. If we get overgrowth of some bacteria, even 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:22.480 if they're meant to be there, they're meant to be 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:25.560 there in just the right amount. So people can develop 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:31.440 conditions like yeast or bacterial vaginosis. If some things grow 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:34.000 more than they should, and some of the stories or 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:35.280 some of the things I looked up at as a 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:38.120 bit of a warning for the yoni steaming is that 0:16:38.180 --> 0:16:41.180 Are we potentially knocking off some of the good bacteria 0:16:41.180 --> 0:16:43.820 and allowing a space then for the bad bacteria, or 0:16:43.820 --> 0:16:45.660 the bacteria that should only be there in a certain 0:16:45.660 --> 0:16:49.660 amount to overgrow, and then we're actually giving ourselves infections 0:16:49.660 --> 0:16:53.500 with it, or just imbalances of our natural flora. That's 0:16:53.500 --> 0:16:54.900 like those natural bugs. 0:16:55.100 --> 0:16:55.420 Totally. 0:16:55.460 --> 0:16:57.020 So those are the main things, like. 0:16:57.060 --> 0:16:59.380 Cause then some people say, oh, no, you read on 0:16:59.380 --> 0:17:04.500 a forum, it cured my bacterial vaginosis. But then, yes, it. Yeah. 0:17:04.540 --> 0:17:08.060 I guess when there's no there's no research, there's probably 0:17:08.060 --> 0:17:09.899 like if you're going to say a yay or an A, 0:17:09.940 --> 0:17:13.420 it's probably a nay. But but gee, we had fun 0:17:13.420 --> 0:17:14.060 doing it. 0:17:14.100 --> 0:17:16.500 No, I was just going to say sometimes in medicine, like, 0:17:16.500 --> 0:17:18.660 we know we're very Western trained and I think that 0:17:18.660 --> 0:17:20.780 there's a lot of good stuff that comes out of 0:17:20.780 --> 0:17:23.139 that traditional eastern medicine. I think we're a little bit 0:17:23.140 --> 0:17:26.780 inclined to, you know, in Western medicine, sometimes just throw 0:17:26.780 --> 0:17:29.660 the baby out with the bathwater. So I'm very mindful 0:17:29.660 --> 0:17:32.300 for my patients, especially in general practice, that if they 0:17:32.300 --> 0:17:34.020 come to me with something that's a little bit out 0:17:34.060 --> 0:17:36.780 of the box or a little bit, you know, not 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:40.520 Western based. I really look at that and go, is 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:44.160 my patient at risk of harm to themselves from this treatment? 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:47.560 If there's no harm to my patient. But there's a 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:53.080 potential benefit, whether that's psychological or physical or symptomatic, I'm 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:54.680 absolutely not going to get in the way of that, 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:57.320 because why would I take a potential benefit away from 0:17:57.320 --> 0:17:59.879 my patient? The only time that I'll step in the 0:17:59.880 --> 0:18:01.760 way and say, I really don't think it's a good 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:04.080 idea is if I can prove that the effort to 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:06.800 benefit ratio doesn't exist for them, that they're actually at 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:10.320 risk of harm rather than potential benefit. And maybe with 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:13.880 the yoni steaming, if there's no risk to the patient 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:15.440 and you think that you're getting a benefit, it makes 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:17.840 you feel better. I mean, who are we to take 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:21.360 away something that's going to make somebody feel empowered or better? 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:23.120 Like it's like a placebo. 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:26.040 Yeah. And that's the other thing they do say it 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:29.560 is empowering. You have more of a connection to down there. 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:31.880 And I guess if it's if it makes you feel 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:34.680 more zen and more relaxed and it's like therapy for 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:37.619 you then And and you're not harming yourself, then if 0:18:37.619 --> 0:18:38.980 you want to give it a go, maybe give it 0:18:38.980 --> 0:18:39.260 a go. 0:18:39.380 --> 0:18:41.460 Do you know what I'm going to give it again? Yeah, 0:18:41.460 --> 0:18:43.580 I'm going to do it again just to see. I'll 0:18:43.580 --> 0:18:45.939 have me if you are perimenopausal. Yeah, I reckon I'll 0:18:45.940 --> 0:18:48.500 let my I'll see what happens next month. And if that's, 0:18:48.500 --> 0:18:50.420 if it comes at the right time, I'm like cool. 0:18:50.900 --> 0:18:53.220 And then the month after it, I'll do it again 0:18:53.220 --> 0:18:56.020 and see if there's a change in my cycle. Because again, 0:18:56.020 --> 0:18:57.740 it could be, you know, mind over matter because I 0:18:57.740 --> 0:19:00.379 knew I was doing it. It's like it's that whole 0:19:00.380 --> 0:19:04.220 saying when you are actively trying for a baby, you 0:19:04.260 --> 0:19:07.500 sometimes struggle, but the second you stop trying, you fall pregnant. 0:19:07.820 --> 0:19:09.780 It could be the same thing, that whole placebo in 0:19:09.780 --> 0:19:12.139 my head. I'm like, I'm doing a yoni steam and 0:19:12.140 --> 0:19:14.379 I didn't want to get my period. 0:19:14.420 --> 0:19:17.379 Because this is the thing. We had the yoni steam 0:19:17.380 --> 0:19:19.060 booked in and she's like, I'm due for my period 0:19:19.060 --> 0:19:20.740 that day. And I'm like, I just hold it in. 0:19:20.780 --> 0:19:22.459 Hold it in. We can't do the yoni steam. If 0:19:22.460 --> 0:19:25.859 you're bleeding. Hold it in, hold it in. You have 0:19:26.020 --> 0:19:29.140 oh my God, you're actually magic. You've managed to delay 0:19:29.619 --> 0:19:32.020 my mind over matter. I literally was. 0:19:32.060 --> 0:19:34.600 Wishing my period away. I'm like, I just need 24 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:36.479 hours to do this on steam. I can't get my 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:38.800 period because I can't then do the yoni steam. And 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:41.760 I literally said to Becca, I'm like, I'm closing. She's like, 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:43.280 how are you feeling? I'm like, I'm closing my legs in. 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:45.720 Like I'm literally holding my uterus tight so I don't 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:48.840 bleed just to do this yoni steam. And I literally, 0:19:48.880 --> 0:19:52.560 I think, wished away my period for nine days and then. 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:52.879 So be. 0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:53.760 Careful what you wish for. 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:55.600 Babe. Exactly. So I think. 0:19:55.800 --> 0:19:56.680 Power of the mind. 0:19:57.040 --> 0:19:59.719 Yeah, yeah, mind over matter. So I think I will 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:02.879 wait for my next cycle and then. 0:20:03.640 --> 0:20:04.080 Maybe try it. 0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:04.920 Again and then try again. 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:06.400 We've got lots of country left. 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:07.360 We do, we've. 0:20:07.359 --> 0:20:10.440 Got, we've got oh, we've got an egg too. Have 0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:14.080 you seen those. How do you say tourmaline. Tourmaline. The tourmaline. 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:16.040 Little eggs. 0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:18.680 It looks like an anal bead. Yes. 0:20:18.760 --> 0:20:20.080 I have actually seen those. 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:22.880 Because they said you need to pop that up beforehand 0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:27.400 for an hour to feel the connection and then take 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:29.640 it out and do the steam. Yes. Have you ever 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:33.230 heard of any medical benefits of the tourmaline egg stone. 0:20:33.230 --> 0:20:35.430 It's got a little rope, like a tampon string. So you, like, 0:20:35.430 --> 0:20:36.990 pop it up and then you pull it out. 0:20:37.109 --> 0:20:39.550 Not that specific thing I've heard of, but I think 0:20:39.550 --> 0:20:42.470 we're putting a weight in. And I think for women's 0:20:42.470 --> 0:20:47.070 health in particular, we turn off our pelvic floors, particularly 0:20:47.070 --> 0:20:49.630 after we have children, we change the way that we stand, 0:20:49.630 --> 0:20:51.869 even the way that we use our hips. And there's 0:20:51.869 --> 0:20:54.030 a lot of subconscious turning off of a lot of 0:20:54.030 --> 0:20:56.750 the support of a pelvic floor for women. And unless 0:20:56.750 --> 0:21:00.070 you're doing a specific program under a really good physio 0:21:00.070 --> 0:21:04.070 or OT to bring that back online, those muscle fibers, 0:21:04.070 --> 0:21:06.350 they're just not getting any messages anymore. And we end 0:21:06.350 --> 0:21:09.310 up later on with a cascading effect from that. I 0:21:09.390 --> 0:21:11.550 wonder if the point of the egg and putting it 0:21:11.550 --> 0:21:14.190 up there is, it would force you to hold on 0:21:14.230 --> 0:21:16.670 to it as well. And I wonder if they're just 0:21:16.869 --> 0:21:20.630 trying to reconnect that neural pathway. Yes, but because you'd 0:21:20.670 --> 0:21:22.669 be thinking about it, wouldn't you be activating your pelvic 0:21:22.670 --> 0:21:23.470 floor to keep. 0:21:23.470 --> 0:21:24.550 The egg and keep it in. 0:21:24.550 --> 0:21:25.949 Because you'd be so scared you're going to lose it 0:21:25.950 --> 0:21:26.230 up there? 0:21:26.230 --> 0:21:27.830 So it's just gonna play? 0:21:27.869 --> 0:21:28.790 Yeah. 0:21:29.430 --> 0:21:32.690 For kids in. I'm taking the egg. I'm gonna disinfect it. 0:21:32.690 --> 0:21:36.409 I've got the icicle. I walk around with that. 0:21:36.450 --> 0:21:36.890 Yes. 0:21:37.330 --> 0:21:39.169 I love the smell of icicle. Do you use that 0:21:39.170 --> 0:21:41.650 in your practice, Doctor Christie, as your disinfectant? 0:21:41.770 --> 0:21:45.369 I'm using more of an ethanol based disinfectant. But icicle 0:21:45.369 --> 0:21:46.450 is very strong. 0:21:46.730 --> 0:21:48.290 I love it. All right. The eggs are coming home 0:21:48.290 --> 0:21:48.730 with me. 0:21:48.730 --> 0:21:50.889 Oh. The eggs. I reckon everyone needs an egg. Yes, 0:21:51.010 --> 0:21:52.129 that's a new pelvic floor. 0:21:52.170 --> 0:21:53.730 Turn that pelvic floor on. 0:21:53.770 --> 0:21:56.129 Yeah, maybe they like pelvic floor weights. And your women's 0:21:56.130 --> 0:21:58.690 health physio can prescribe pelvic floor weights, can't they? 0:21:59.330 --> 0:22:01.090 They can. So I can see how they've connected the 0:22:01.090 --> 0:22:01.650 two together. 0:22:01.650 --> 0:22:05.810 The other thing with black tourmaline tourmaline, tourmaline, it's actually 0:22:05.810 --> 0:22:08.970 a stone that a lot of kumbaya people use. And 0:22:08.970 --> 0:22:10.729 actually my husband wears it a lot to work. He 0:22:10.730 --> 0:22:11.810 wears it around his neck. 0:22:11.850 --> 0:22:14.970 It's oh my God, my son sleeps with a stone 0:22:14.970 --> 0:22:15.810 under his bed. 0:22:15.930 --> 0:22:18.090 Yes. And it'll be it'll be a tourmaline. So what 0:22:18.090 --> 0:22:20.890 it is, it actually is a energy blocker. So any 0:22:20.890 --> 0:22:24.129 negative energy, what it does, it blocks it out. So 0:22:24.130 --> 0:22:26.330 I reckon that's why they've chose that particular stone to 0:22:26.330 --> 0:22:29.210 go up to. So any bad energy. 0:22:29.410 --> 0:22:31.990 Yeah. Negative thoughts and bad spirits. 0:22:32.030 --> 0:22:36.310 Or big energy? Bad big dick. It keeps them away. 0:22:36.430 --> 0:22:39.150 If you're a single woman, put that good dick. 0:22:39.150 --> 0:22:39.430 Only. 0:22:39.470 --> 0:22:43.149 Only good dick only. So, I mean, who doesn't. 0:22:43.150 --> 0:22:45.350 Need something that's keeping your bad juju away? 0:22:45.390 --> 0:22:48.830 No. Exactly. If we ever do a product line through Vonage, 0:22:48.830 --> 0:22:51.270 we know what we're doing first. Yeah. 0:22:52.270 --> 0:22:53.350 We'll call it BD. 0:22:53.390 --> 0:22:54.990 Yeah, BD. Yeah, literally. 0:22:55.670 --> 0:22:56.750 Na na na na. 0:23:00.030 --> 0:23:00.389 Na. 0:23:01.430 --> 0:23:05.469 This is another quick question talking about vaginas. What can 0:23:05.510 --> 0:23:09.230 we do that's beneficial and healthy to maintain that area. 0:23:09.590 --> 0:23:11.550 Is there anything that you can particularly. 0:23:12.030 --> 0:23:12.949 Leave it alone. 0:23:13.310 --> 0:23:13.669 Yeah. 0:23:13.670 --> 0:23:16.070 Yeah. Like, to be fair, it's mostly leave it alone. 0:23:16.510 --> 0:23:18.629 I do see all of these really expensive, sort of 0:23:18.630 --> 0:23:22.590 like specific feminine hygiene washes and things that really kind 0:23:22.590 --> 0:23:24.630 of don't want any chemicals down there. 0:23:24.670 --> 0:23:26.030 Because it's self-cleaning. Right? 0:23:26.150 --> 0:23:30.090 It's self-cleaning. And you can get some very sensitive, you know, 0:23:30.130 --> 0:23:34.050 vaginas where the exposure to even soap will kick off, 0:23:34.730 --> 0:23:35.410 you know, an. 0:23:35.410 --> 0:23:36.210 Infection. 0:23:36.210 --> 0:23:36.930 Or. 0:23:36.970 --> 0:23:39.690 Is that when Christie is that when the balance is 0:23:39.690 --> 0:23:43.370 just completely off? Is that what happens and how what 0:23:43.369 --> 0:23:45.930 would you like? What do you recommend to get that 0:23:45.930 --> 0:23:48.010 balance right? If it's not a yoni steam, it's not 0:23:48.010 --> 0:23:52.330 a tourmaline bead. Yeah. Is there is it like probiotics or. 0:23:52.369 --> 0:23:54.770 I do think that probiotics are actually really good. I 0:23:54.770 --> 0:23:57.210 think it's so individual. Right. Because I think I think 0:23:57.210 --> 0:23:58.969 we like to make out like we're all just the 0:23:58.970 --> 0:24:01.490 same with the same processes. But I feel like women's 0:24:01.490 --> 0:24:04.090 health is so much more complicated than that. Yeah. And 0:24:04.090 --> 0:24:06.290 what works for one person might not work for the 0:24:06.290 --> 0:24:09.370 next person. Like I've definitely had patients where which this 0:24:09.369 --> 0:24:11.570 makes no scientific sense. I'm just I'm mindful of that. 0:24:11.570 --> 0:24:14.210 We pulled them off all yeast based products and their 0:24:14.210 --> 0:24:17.530 vaginal flora went back to normal. And other patients where 0:24:17.530 --> 0:24:19.810 they've had to avoid gluten and their vaginal flora has 0:24:19.850 --> 0:24:22.010 become more functional. I had one this is not an 0:24:22.010 --> 0:24:24.690 easy solution for some people. I had one patient and 0:24:24.690 --> 0:24:29.350 she kept coming in with recurrent UTIs. Recurrent bacterial vaginosis. 0:24:29.750 --> 0:24:31.790 That's me and I. Okay. You're not gonna like where 0:24:31.790 --> 0:24:32.470 the story is going. 0:24:32.910 --> 0:24:33.590 I just. Oh. 0:24:33.750 --> 0:24:34.710 UTIs and thrush. 0:24:34.910 --> 0:24:36.710 Yeah, I don't get. Yeah, I don't get thrush much, 0:24:36.710 --> 0:24:41.190 but I. UTIs are like my. Always, always get them. 0:24:41.230 --> 0:24:43.389 And this is not a solution. I'm saying for you 0:24:43.550 --> 0:24:46.150 in case your husband listens to this later. But this 0:24:46.150 --> 0:24:48.230 particular patient. I want to tell you, I went through 0:24:48.230 --> 0:24:51.270 this really exhaustive process with her to try and find 0:24:51.270 --> 0:24:55.229 out what was triggering this imbalance. And I tried all 0:24:55.230 --> 0:24:57.310 the things we did antibiotics, which I normally hate. We 0:24:57.310 --> 0:24:59.670 did lots of things. Anyway, one day she comes back 0:24:59.710 --> 0:25:02.550 probably about six months later, and that's the longest time 0:25:02.590 --> 0:25:05.510 frame I had gone without seeing her. And she comes 0:25:05.510 --> 0:25:07.590 in and it was like a review appointment and I 0:25:07.590 --> 0:25:10.270 was like, wow, this is like the longest in-between time 0:25:10.310 --> 0:25:13.990 frames in between infections. Did we finally sort of like 0:25:14.030 --> 0:25:17.670 sort it out? And she was like, oh no, I 0:25:17.670 --> 0:25:18.909 just got a new boyfriend. 0:25:19.190 --> 0:25:19.750 Yes. 0:25:20.310 --> 0:25:23.230 And it was the old boyfriend. There was something about 0:25:23.230 --> 0:25:26.620 his particular Flora and her particular flora floor that did 0:25:26.619 --> 0:25:28.899 not work, wasn't working. Oh, and the minute. 0:25:28.900 --> 0:25:29.060 She. 0:25:29.060 --> 0:25:29.379 Ditched. 0:25:29.380 --> 0:25:30.020 We can't tell. 0:25:30.060 --> 0:25:33.300 Val. No, this is why I was like, with this 0:25:33.300 --> 0:25:36.820 particular patient, the change of partner fixed everything. 0:25:36.940 --> 0:25:39.340 After a while, what I actually did in the end 0:25:39.340 --> 0:25:43.780 was I worked out my trigger through Covid lockdown. I 0:25:43.780 --> 0:25:45.619 always have a glass of wine before. You know, when 0:25:45.619 --> 0:25:47.899 I was cooking dinner, I stopped doing that for six 0:25:47.900 --> 0:25:50.100 weeks and I didn't get a UTI. So I know 0:25:50.100 --> 0:25:53.820 my trigger is wine, so if I have a wine 0:25:53.820 --> 0:25:57.179 and then I go, ooh, hey! Then I usually wake 0:25:57.180 --> 0:25:58.540 up with a UTI the next day. 0:25:59.220 --> 0:26:00.420 So it's so bizarre. 0:26:00.460 --> 0:26:03.740 Mine's wine. Depressing I know, I know. 0:26:03.740 --> 0:26:06.260 Especially in Covid, that's like the only thing that was 0:26:06.260 --> 0:26:07.260 getting us through, let's. 0:26:07.260 --> 0:26:10.820 Be honest. Yeah, exactly. So it was like mine was wine. 0:26:10.859 --> 0:26:11.900 So maybe just. 0:26:11.900 --> 0:26:14.580 Be taking the all prim like it's a trimethoprim is 0:26:14.580 --> 0:26:17.020 the first line of antibiotic for you guys. I've just 0:26:17.020 --> 0:26:18.660 been taking the time with them and the wine together. 0:26:18.660 --> 0:26:19.900 And the wine at the same time. 0:26:20.260 --> 0:26:20.500 I'm like. 0:26:20.500 --> 0:26:21.419 It is what it is. 0:26:21.540 --> 0:26:21.659 Yeah. 0:26:21.660 --> 0:26:24.220 Is that like, maybe you could try a condom? 0:26:24.220 --> 0:26:26.400 Um, yeah. Oh, no. I'm. I'm allergic to them. I'd 0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:32.040 get thrashed from that. Yeah. Just. Yeah. Anyway, so anyway. 0:26:32.040 --> 0:26:35.399 Anyway, Doctor Christie, last question. Why do you think Yoni 0:26:35.400 --> 0:26:37.800 Steaming has had a resurgence in popularity in recent years? 0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:40.840 Is it TikTok? Is it social media? Is it. People 0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:42.560 are just looking at natural therapies. 0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:43.800 Is it Gwyneth Paltrow? 0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:45.359 Yes, I think it is. 0:26:45.520 --> 0:26:46.080 Yeah. 0:26:46.080 --> 0:26:46.800 The Kardashians. 0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:49.360 Did it. I think it's all of the above. What 0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:52.600 I probably I think it's just a sign in general 0:26:52.600 --> 0:26:54.280 because I see I've seen this a lot just in 0:26:54.280 --> 0:26:56.800 the last kind of like two decades, um, of my 0:26:56.800 --> 0:27:00.280 medicine is that I think women are really looking for 0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:03.720 how they can take charge of their female health, because 0:27:03.720 --> 0:27:06.200 I think that particularly in Western medicine, I think it's 0:27:06.200 --> 0:27:09.199 been really catered for and really poorly understood for a 0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:12.120 very long time. And I think we're seeing a real 0:27:12.119 --> 0:27:15.639 resurgence in the last sort of even ten years of 0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:18.639 like an understanding of how women's health works, how we 0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:21.520 can be doing things better for women. I think it's 0:27:21.520 --> 0:27:24.060 probably just also part of that women just going, hey, 0:27:24.060 --> 0:27:25.660 we want to like, we don't want to be ignored. 0:27:25.700 --> 0:27:28.300 We don't want that part of our lives being ignored 0:27:28.300 --> 0:27:31.419 in medicine or in cultural significance. So how can we 0:27:31.420 --> 0:27:34.340 reclaim that space a little bit? And I mean, TikTok's 0:27:34.340 --> 0:27:37.060 probably helped, but yeah, I think it's just, you know, 0:27:37.100 --> 0:27:39.739 we want to understand what's going on and maybe we 0:27:39.740 --> 0:27:41.740 do want to reconnect. Yeah. 0:27:42.300 --> 0:27:45.060 Yeah. So, Doctor Christie, will you, um, after this podcast, 0:27:45.100 --> 0:27:46.940 go and steam your yoni? 0:27:47.580 --> 0:27:49.060 Do you know what? I think we have a lot 0:27:49.060 --> 0:27:52.060 in common, because I will literally try everything again as well, 0:27:52.619 --> 0:27:55.500 and I this has been my theory in cosmetics as well. 0:27:55.859 --> 0:27:58.419 How can I recommend something to a patient if I 0:27:58.420 --> 0:28:02.179 haven't tried it myself or understood the process myself? So 0:28:02.180 --> 0:28:04.980 I think before I really said yay or nay, I 0:28:04.980 --> 0:28:07.899 probably would give it a crack. Yeah, I mean, 30 0:28:07.900 --> 0:28:11.700 minutes of sitting somewhere is mindfulness. So if I was 0:28:11.700 --> 0:28:14.780 sitting there for 30 minutes, I'd probably feel better just 0:28:14.780 --> 0:28:15.500 from that. 0:28:15.700 --> 0:28:16.580 Yeah. So true. 0:28:16.700 --> 0:28:18.460 Thank you, Doctor Christie. 0:28:18.500 --> 0:28:21.340 Yes, thank you so much for coming on. And, you know, 0:28:21.380 --> 0:28:23.320 opening up your world, but also giving us a little 0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:26.520 insight on actually what Yoni steaming is about. Um, even 0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:28.520 though we jumped the gun and we did it before, 0:28:28.520 --> 0:28:30.920 we actually really deep diving in and what we were actually. 0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:33.280 Doing probably should have asked you first before we did it, 0:28:33.280 --> 0:28:36.879 but I've liked the the outcomes and the findings, and 0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:39.440 I think we've got to get Doctor Christie back on 0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:41.440 to talk us through perimenopause. 0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:42.200 Yes. 0:28:42.200 --> 0:28:45.880 Because I think that's where we could have potentially landed. Uh, yeah. 0:28:45.880 --> 0:28:46.680 So thank you. 0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:47.440 Thank you so much. 0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:49.560 Thank you for having me. I really appreciate. 0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:50.240 It. 0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:54.680 She's good. 0:28:54.680 --> 0:28:57.960 Doctor Christie. Oh, my God, she's amazing. And wow. Like, 0:28:57.960 --> 0:29:01.560 just to know all about the yoni steaming and it's 0:29:01.560 --> 0:29:05.080 not really obviously it's not. There's no evidence that it's beneficial. 0:29:05.120 --> 0:29:06.400 And we knew that going into it. 0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:07.400 We did, we did. 0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:08.880 But we knew it would do no harm. 0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:11.120 Um, we took all the right steps and precautions to 0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:15.360 make sure that my fanny didn't burn. Um, but I 0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:17.600 am going to try it again. Yeah, I am going 0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:20.360 to do it again just to say I've done it twice. Yeah. 0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:23.990 And just to say, if the week that I had, 0:29:24.510 --> 0:29:26.150 would it replicate again. 0:29:26.190 --> 0:29:28.830 There's been a lot of potential outcomes from this. There's 0:29:28.830 --> 0:29:31.670 more questions that need to be answered. 0:29:31.710 --> 0:29:32.430 Yeah, exactly. 0:29:32.470 --> 0:29:35.390 One just quick question before we sign off. When you're 0:29:35.390 --> 0:29:38.870 doing those pregnancy tests, were you a little bit excited 0:29:39.150 --> 0:29:41.550 or were you like trauma in your mind? 0:29:41.750 --> 0:29:43.670 I think I was trauma, I think I was more trauma. 0:29:43.710 --> 0:29:45.830 I thought I actually would have been excited because I'm 0:29:45.830 --> 0:29:48.790 always like when I'm having a boring day at home 0:29:48.790 --> 0:29:50.350 and I'm not doing much because I'm always need to 0:29:50.350 --> 0:29:53.110 be stimulated. I'm like, I'll have a baby that will 0:29:53.150 --> 0:29:53.790 free up my time. 0:29:54.150 --> 0:29:58.190 So you randomly come to me every so often and just, 0:29:58.190 --> 0:29:59.989 I think I'm gonna have a baby. I'm like, oh no, 0:29:59.990 --> 0:30:02.070 she just needs a dopamine hit. Go and buy something. 0:30:02.110 --> 0:30:03.150 Yes, yes, yes. 0:30:03.150 --> 0:30:06.030 Jump online or go down to Scanlon and buy something. 0:30:06.030 --> 0:30:08.070 Buy something. And that for me, it's kind of get. 0:30:08.070 --> 0:30:08.990 Your fix that way. 0:30:09.110 --> 0:30:12.230 Yeah, get my fix. So I think I've always initially 0:30:12.230 --> 0:30:14.830 gone I want more babies. And then and you know, 0:30:14.870 --> 0:30:16.990 I'm never going to say never because I am 34 0:30:16.990 --> 0:30:18.709 and I feel like that's the time people usually try 0:30:18.710 --> 0:30:21.490 to have babies and not at 21, but when I 0:30:21.490 --> 0:30:23.770 was doing the pregnancy test, I was like, I know, 0:30:23.810 --> 0:30:25.770 like I can't have a baby right now. Like I'm 0:30:25.770 --> 0:30:26.170 so busy. 0:30:26.210 --> 0:30:28.210 So you were scared when you were waiting for the results? 0:30:28.210 --> 0:30:29.770 You were a little bit excited. 0:30:29.810 --> 0:30:31.410 Yeah. No, like I usually like I was, I was 0:30:31.410 --> 0:30:33.010 a bit more scared. And then when you kind of 0:30:33.050 --> 0:30:35.250 dropped the whole maybe you're perimenopausal. I'm like, you better 0:30:35.250 --> 0:30:35.850 be positive. 0:30:36.970 --> 0:30:42.810 You'd rather be pregnant than getting old. Yeah. IC it's 0:30:42.810 --> 0:30:43.210 an IC. 0:30:43.330 --> 0:30:43.730 It's an. 0:30:43.730 --> 0:30:46.090 IC. That's why we're doing this podcast. No we are. 0:30:46.210 --> 0:30:46.650 Aging is a. 0:30:46.650 --> 0:30:47.450 Privilege. It is. 0:30:47.610 --> 0:30:49.290 It is. We just don't want to look old. And that's. 0:30:49.290 --> 0:30:50.810 Okay. We just want to look like Cher. 0:30:50.970 --> 0:30:51.650 Winding back the. 0:30:51.650 --> 0:30:54.090 Clock. Exactly. And that's all we're doing. We want to 0:30:54.090 --> 0:30:54.890 live forever. 0:30:54.930 --> 0:30:56.850 Yeah, we want to feel good. Yeah, we want to 0:30:56.890 --> 0:31:00.010 look good. And I think just take the shame away 0:31:00.010 --> 0:31:01.490 from being a little bit vain. 0:31:01.530 --> 0:31:04.970 Exactly. At the end of the day, we're just vain ish. 0:31:05.650 --> 0:31:11.130 Yeah. Only do what we wanna know. Yeah. We're gonna 0:31:11.130 --> 0:31:17.810 go now if you want to go. Nah nah nah nah.