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Speaker 1: All right, there is a ton of stuff going on

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Speaker 1: with the President of the United States. So I guess

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Speaker 1: we're going to do a little rapid fire here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this segment, Casey, the floor is yours.

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Speaker 2: Lots of different Trump updates. First of all, let's start

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Speaker 2: with this new poll and this comes from Pew, and

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Speaker 2: they say this is about Trump's use of power, and

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Speaker 2: they say that sixty nine percent of Americans say President

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Speaker 2: Trump is trying to exercise more power than previous presidents.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's sort of a reoccurring theme for every president,

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Speaker 1: especially in a post nine to eleven world. I think

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Speaker 1: we saw a massive extension of presidential executive authority under

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Speaker 1: George W. Bush and the federal government, by this case,

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Speaker 1: the United States Congress has done essentially nothing to rain

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Speaker 1: that in. And whether it's you know, Trump with various

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Speaker 1: activities under his presidency, or Biden trying to get people

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Speaker 1: fired if you don't get an experimental vaccine, or I

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Speaker 1: just think it's just a and.

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Speaker 3: You're seeing it at local levels, right.

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Speaker 1: Look no further than what took place here in the

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Speaker 1: state of Indiana during COVID COVID nineteen and all the

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Speaker 1: stuff the governor did without any pushback whatsoever from the

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Speaker 1: General Assembly, And so I think you're just going to

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Speaker 1: keep seeing each next president take this further and further

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Speaker 1: until somebody steps in and does something about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, isn't that up to the Congress to be

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Speaker 2: the checks and balance for that.

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Speaker 1: Well, they conveniently use that as a crutch when they

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Speaker 1: want to. But I think deep down a lot of

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Speaker 1: these people, and you saw this here in Indiana during COVID.

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Speaker 1: I think our General Assembly was very fine with what

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Speaker 1: Eric Holcom did because they said, let him take the

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Speaker 1: slings and arrows. He wants to put on his power pants,

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Speaker 1: and then we can play victim and go, well, we'd

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Speaker 1: love to help you out, but but it's not at

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Speaker 1: our purview.

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Speaker 2: So let's talk about public opinion on his governance. Thirty

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Speaker 2: nine percent say Trump has improved government operations, fifty nine

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Speaker 2: percent say he has not improved how the government works,

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Speaker 2: and thirty eight percent say Trump runs an open and

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Speaker 2: transparent administration. Sixty percent disagreed with that.

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Speaker 1: So what would Trump have done that would make people

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Speaker 1: think government is better because you can doge whatever.

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Speaker 3: But it didn't.

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Speaker 1: First of all, it was too much for people to

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Speaker 1: process and Mitch Daniels kind of went through this with

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Speaker 1: us several months ago when he was talking about how

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Speaker 1: he had kind of reformed the government in the early days.

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Speaker 1: And it's that incrementalist approach in which you got to

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Speaker 1: know one how to get wins, you got to know

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Speaker 1: how to prioritize wins, and you got to build off

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Speaker 1: a wins. And with Trump and the Doze stuff, it

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Speaker 1: was just too much, too fast. They were doing too

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Speaker 1: many things that people didn't understand. They weren't selling the

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Speaker 1: things they were doing and how it was helping people.

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Speaker 1: And then it kind of came out, well, it's not

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Speaker 1: really saving anybody any money because that money's just reverted

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Speaker 1: back to these agencies. It's not going to pay down

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Speaker 1: the debt or something like that. It's just something being

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Speaker 1: reverted back to these agencies and they'll spend it again

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Speaker 1: on something else.

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Speaker 3: And so I think people look at here we are ten.

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Speaker 1: Months into his or nine months into his presidency, and

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Speaker 1: people are going, what's different, how's the government running better?

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Speaker 1: We're thirty or almost thirty eight trillion in debt. This

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Speaker 1: bill you passed, which is your signature thing, continues to grow.

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Speaker 1: Government continues to grow. The nation's debt. What are we

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Speaker 1: getting that is any different? I don't think people see it.

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Speaker 2: Well, he did cut the federal workforce by eight point

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Speaker 2: seven percent, not quite as much as what was promised,

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Speaker 2: and he has now warned that no back pay will

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Speaker 2: go to furloughed workers during the shutdown. So some concerns

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Speaker 2: about abuse of power. According to this poll, sixty six

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Speaker 2: percent say Trump has used his office to punish his

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Speaker 2: political opponents, and some notable targets include James Comey, who

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Speaker 2: just pled not guilty to all of the charges.

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Speaker 1: Well, there's no doubt he's doing that, but there's also

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Speaker 1: no doubt the guy before him did that, and then

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Speaker 1: there's no doubt that the guy before Trump the first

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Speaker 1: time that. So like, at this point, this is just

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Speaker 1: what we are.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we are.

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Speaker 1: Look, we are drifting further and further towards what our

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Speaker 1: founding fathers warned about and the sort of things that

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Speaker 1: they were very specific about that will be the downfall

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Speaker 1: of this country. And it is one of those things

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Speaker 1: is the idea of too much consolidated power, And we

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Speaker 1: have too much consolidated power in this country, both at

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Speaker 1: a state, about a federal a state and a local

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Speaker 1: level in which select individuals can do too much and

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Speaker 1: the people have the ability to do something about it,

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Speaker 1: aren't willing to fight back, and everybody just seems to

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Speaker 1: kind of be, you know, whistling past the graveyard.

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Speaker 2: Sixty one percent believe Trump has used his office to

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Speaker 2: benefit his family and friends. And again the guy before

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Speaker 2: him did the same thing, i e. Hunter Biden.

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Speaker 1: Look, people are going to judge government. Most people are

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Speaker 1: going to judge government. The overwhelming majority of people are

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Speaker 1: going to judge government based on the status of their

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Speaker 1: own life. How is my life doing? And then they

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Speaker 1: will judge, rightly or wrongly, the role of government based

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Speaker 1: on the status of their own condition. And for five

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Speaker 1: years now we have seen at super speed, the middle

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Speaker 1: class being pushed downward, the tippy top people being elevated.

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Speaker 1: The wealth divide in this country has never been greater,

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Speaker 1: and the cost of living, the affordability of living, and

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Speaker 1: the ability to take care of basic necessities is becoming

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Speaker 1: more and more burdensome for regular people. Until that is solved,

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Speaker 1: these poll numbers are not going to get any better

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Speaker 1: for Trump or whoever is in office after Trump, because

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Speaker 1: people are not seeing their own lives be better.

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Speaker 2: And speaking of the status of your own life, when

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Speaker 2: it comes to the economy and approval ratings, nearly seventy

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Speaker 2: five percent of Americans rate in the US economy as poor.

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Speaker 2: What's the number poor, fair, seventy five percent. Seventy percent

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Speaker 2: say the economy is on the wrong track. Now, Trump's

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Speaker 2: approval approval rating, and this is according to Decision Desk Headquarters,

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Speaker 2: it's at forty four percent, which is.

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Speaker 3: Right in the range.

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Speaker 1: Right we've said, it is probably not as low as

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Speaker 1: those that have him in the thirties. It's definitely not

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Speaker 1: as high as people have him in the upper forties.

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Speaker 1: It's probably depending on the day and the event, he'll

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Speaker 1: probably get a little kick out of this thing with

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Speaker 1: Israel and Hamas until that blows up, which, by the way,

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Speaker 1: how many times have we heard peace in our time?

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Speaker 1: Peace in the Middle East? This is the and then

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Speaker 1: a year later they're back to fighting with each other.

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Speaker 1: Later sometimes well, that's my point, right, And I highly

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Speaker 1: doubt that Hamas has just said in good faith, hey,

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Speaker 1: let everybody go, We're done fighting and let's turn this

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Speaker 1: know Hamas super well, I don't see that happening, and

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Speaker 3: Holy I hope it does. I think that'd be great

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Speaker 1: But he'll get a little kick out of that, and

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Speaker 1: then it'll disintegrate again as it all does, and people

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Speaker 1: will be back.

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Speaker 3: I just I think it's all.

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Speaker 1: Economy based for the most part. You know, there are

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Speaker 1: other issues that factor into it. But Trump is not

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Speaker 1: doing what he promised to do in the campaign, which

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Speaker 1: is to get the affordability of living under control.