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Speaker 2: to his point. Good dude, though he would be perfectly

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie to you. I will actually and

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Speaker 2: don't know, somewhere between three and two hundred the number

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Speaker 2: Colts fans, for you listeners of this show, that I'm

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Speaker 1: Don't pay attention to any of that because your favorite.

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Speaker 2: Radio host says, no, I'm willing to sit in an

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Speaker 2: Yesterday it was around two, so it wasn't terrible because

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Speaker 2: and I trust, and I believe in the aptitude, the

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Speaker 1: All of you. You're a smart audience.

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Speaker 2: This company, querying Company, we have a rigorous, rigorous process

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Speaker 2: by which we do hiring, and that includes making sure

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Speaker 2: so we hired you. I mean, we're very very on

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Speaker 2: because the practice ends at eleven o'clock. Tomorrow will be

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Speaker 2: I did an interview earlier that I believe because sometimes

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Speaker 2: Walllye it woul appear.

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Speaker 1: But what else jumped out at you?

435
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Speaker 4: I thought those were certainly the biggest takeaways.

436
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Speaker 5: Obviously, anytime you throw it to the other team in practice,

437
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Speaker 5: that's gonna get noted. And I think Anthony still at

438
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Speaker 5: times a bit inaccurate. I thought Daniel Jones had a

439
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Speaker 5: fairly okay day. It wasn't something that jumped out to me.

440
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Speaker 5: No one really had like the big time play like

441
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Speaker 5: yesterday's day when Daniel Jones hit Anthony Gould down the sideline.

442
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Speaker 5: There was no like big play from either of the

443
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Speaker 5: top two quarterbacks. A little bit of a Tyler Warren sighting.

444
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Speaker 5: I thought, you know, he made a couple of catches today,

445
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Speaker 5: and I thought that he was a little bit more involved.

446
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Speaker 2: Which does he look more Tyler Warren like an in

447
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:58,439
Speaker 2: stride across the middle catching guy or can contort his

448
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Speaker 2: body and make the difficult catch.

449
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Speaker 1: Cindy, good question.

450
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Speaker 5: I think he's a great, you know, contested catch guy.

451
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Speaker 5: I don't know if he's like the contorting his body type. However,

452
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,919
Speaker 5: it was good to just see him get open across

453
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Speaker 5: the middle and kind of get some balls because that

454
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Speaker 5: is an area of the field that the Colts have

455
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Speaker 5: really lacked him when it comes to any type of

456
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Speaker 5: success in recent years. They've never had anybody over in

457
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Speaker 5: the middle that to catch the ball, and so just

458
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Speaker 5: seeing him get a little more involved than he was

459
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Speaker 5: yesterday was a good sign. Cam Binen was very you

460
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Speaker 5: know it, spoke very highly of him and was saying, Hey,

461
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Speaker 5: the guy.

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Speaker 4: If you didn't tell me, I wouldn't know that he's

463
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Speaker 4: a rookie.

464
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Speaker 5: So it's a good sign from how he's approached the game,

465
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Speaker 5: how he's kind of integrated into the offense.

466
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Speaker 4: So that s't out to me as well.

467
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Speaker 5: And then Jelanny woodside and keeping him with the tight

468
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Speaker 5: end theme, I thought, I for a second, I was

469
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Speaker 5: a west second. He's back healthy and I get you know,

470
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Speaker 5: Jelanni Woods hyping July is always a little you know,

471
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Speaker 5: scary because he had has he's had injury history.

472
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Speaker 4: However, just seeing him get out there, you wonder does

473
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Speaker 4: that matter?

474
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Speaker 6: All right?

475
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Speaker 2: We will continue to monitor all of those things. James,

476
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Speaker 2: you should get your laptop ready because I don't know this.

477
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Speaker 2: I don't know this, okay, but I think I've done

478
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Speaker 2: this a long time. Every once in a while, when

479
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Speaker 2: you do an interview, and I'm sure this happens with

480
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Speaker 2: you, you do an interview and somebody says something where you're like,

481
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Speaker 2: I think that's a news nugget. I think I just

482
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Speaker 2: got dropped the news nugget. And just before this show began,

483
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Speaker 2: I did record an interview with Bernard Ryman, who is

484
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Speaker 2: entering his fourth year. And most importantly, by the way,

485
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Speaker 2: this bottled water that I bought, it's a brand I'm

486
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Speaker 2: not familiar with.

487
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Speaker 1: It looks like a tequila bottle.

488
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Speaker 4: I'll say, are you drinking on air?

489
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Speaker 6: Here?

490
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Speaker 1: Is that?

491
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Speaker 2: It looks it looks like I'm drinking tequila?

492
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Speaker 1: And so would be is it national tequila?

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Speaker 7: To hold on? Lord, you got a line for me?

494
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Speaker 7: Oh my goodness, for the salt. All I do is

495
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Speaker 7: look my do that right? I don't even need natural.

496
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Speaker 1: I don't even need natural. This is bottled water.

497
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Speaker 2: Everybody just say no, but it does look like could

498
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Speaker 2: send a tequila bottle on National Tequila Day. All right,

499
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Speaker 2: Bernard Ryman interview Next he is in a contract year,

500
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Speaker 2: and typically with that a guy simply says, yeah, I

501
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Speaker 2: let other people worry about that. But Bernard Ryman went

502
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Speaker 2: one step further. The interview's next day number two is

503
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Speaker 2: now in the books. Colts Camp Grand Park up in Westfield,

504
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Speaker 2: where we are Jake Querry here up in Hamilton County

505
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Speaker 2: and joined by a guy that I think is a

506
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Speaker 2: real key figure for this Colts team entering year number

507
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Speaker 2: four now Bernard Ryman, the left tackle of out of

508
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Speaker 2: Central Michigan, where you know you were.

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Speaker 1: I always forget about this.

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Speaker 2: You started out as a tight end, yes, sir, first

511
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Speaker 2: transition in college, and I remember talking to you when

512
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Speaker 2: you were a rookie just about still kind of learning

513
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Speaker 2: that position. Did you feel like from an NFL standpoint,

514
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Speaker 2: there again was kind of that same learning curve because

515
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Speaker 2: that left tackle position is so important at the NFL level,

516
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Speaker 2: and there was so much expected on you from an

517
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Speaker 2: early standpoint from the time he stepped on the field.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, I mean college it was quick turnaround. It

519
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Speaker 8: was you know, COVID year we had six games. Then

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Speaker 8: my senior season at twelve games, so eighteen games of

521
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Speaker 8: tackle and then you know, had to make an NFL team,

522
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Speaker 8: So that was definitely a big, big learning curve. But

523
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Speaker 8: we have some great veterans in the room that really

524
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Speaker 8: helped me out. You know, Q, Braden Ryan, all those

525
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Speaker 8: guys were huge my rookie year and they've also you know,

526
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Speaker 8: it stayed that way too, like every single year, can

527
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Speaker 8: I can keep learning from them, I can keep improving

528
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Speaker 8: my game, and that's what it's all about, just you know,

529
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Speaker 8: keep on improving, working the little things and trying to

530
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Speaker 8: get better every day.

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Speaker 2: You know, the guy that was the staple and the

532
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Speaker 2: pillar at that position obviously just before you was Anthony Gastanzo,

533
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Speaker 2: and Castanzo to me was always fascinating because in getting

534
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Speaker 2: to know him over the course of his career, the

535
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Speaker 2: one thing I learned is that he never stopped learning.

536
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Speaker 2: Like he took the left tackle position almost like a

537
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Speaker 2: geometric science of studying all aspects and angles of it.

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Speaker 1: Do you agree with that kind of mental approach of

539
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Speaker 1: the position?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, I mean just even the smallest things, the smallest

542
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Speaker 8: angles the smallest step, the smallest you know, muscle you

543
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Speaker 8: use when you when you push off like that can

544
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Speaker 8: all affect your game in so many ways and can

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Speaker 8: improve your game. So I think if you don't focus

546
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Speaker 8: on these little things, and if you don't study the game,

547
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Speaker 8: if you don't study your opponents, if you don't don't

548
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Speaker 8: study these things, I think you you stop learning and

549
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Speaker 8: then then you need to get better.

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Speaker 1: You get worse.

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Speaker 8: There's no standing still, I think in this league. So yeah,

552
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Speaker 8: if you don't improve, you you won't make it here long.

553
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Speaker 2: You know, football in general, for fans, and I don't

554
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Speaker 2: mean to say whether it's Anthony Richardson or Daniel Jones

555
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Speaker 2: or Riley Leonard or whoever, fans would like to see

556
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Speaker 2: the consistency of just who's the starting quarterback.

557
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Speaker 1: And let's go with that from a line standpoint.

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Speaker 2: As the guy that's protected and you are the blind

559
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Speaker 2: side protector, does the approach change or the style change

560
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Speaker 2: based on who it is that you are protecting?

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Speaker 6: To be honest, not really.

562
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Speaker 8: I mean all those guys are obviously great players off

563
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Speaker 8: the field, but also on the field, I mean they

564
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Speaker 8: all can they all have the arm to throw the ball.

565
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Speaker 8: You know deep, they all can make the reads, but

566
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Speaker 8: they're also all athletics, so do.

567
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Speaker 2: They have different tendencies though in terms of like one

568
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Speaker 2: guy and that's what I meant by that. More so,

569
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Speaker 2: like you know, one guy, you know, Okay, he's going

570
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Speaker 2: to spend more time this side, pocket or that side,

571
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Speaker 2: or oscillate this way that way. Can you get too

572
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Speaker 2: caught up in what it is that their tendencies favor

573
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Speaker 2: a little.

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Speaker 8: Bit, But I mean, at the end of the day,

575
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Speaker 8: the defense, you know, decides love that too. I mean,

576
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Speaker 8: if a quarterback usually gets rid of the ball faster,

577
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Speaker 8: but the defense is taking away all his you know,

578
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Speaker 8: all his the first two reads or whatever, then obviously

579
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Speaker 8: he's gonna hold onto the ball longer. So as an

580
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 8: alignment you can't rely on on you can't guess, but

581
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Speaker 8: which is obviously also the difficult part about this position.

582
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Speaker 8: You you don't exactly know where the quarterback is at

583
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Speaker 8: all times. You don't know if he's holding onto the ball,

584
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Speaker 8: if he is rolling out of the pocket. So it's

585
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Speaker 8: it's it's good to learn the quarterbacks, the cadences, their

586
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 8: their style, the place to prefer. But at the end

587
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Speaker 8: of the day, I think in game, it's it's kind

588
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 8: of you. You You're trying to do your job and

589
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Speaker 8: you're protecting whoever's back there.

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Speaker 2: That is the voice of Bernard Ryman. We are at

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Speaker 2: Colts camp up at Grand Park in Westfield. Bernard entering

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Speaker 2: year number four left tackle for the Colts. If it

593
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Speaker 2: were up to you, is would you rather have stability

594
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Speaker 2: and in terms of every single game, same starter at

595
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Speaker 2: the quarterback position or the center position.

596
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Speaker 1: I mean.

597
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Speaker 8: Both would be great, but obviously in this league it's

598
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 8: it's the day to day business where people get hurt

599
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 8: all the time. I mean, you see year year after year.

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Speaker 8: But I trust all of these guys I lost. I

601
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Speaker 8: trust entire quarterback room. I trust all of our centers

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Speaker 8: to you know, step up and do what needs to

603
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Speaker 8: be done to win games. So I'm not too concerned

604
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Speaker 8: about it. I trust all of this guy, I thought.

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Speaker 2: BUTTERLINI last year when put in the center position, and

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Speaker 2: I like Danny Pinter and his kind of Swiss army.

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Speaker 1: Knife fast as well.

608
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Speaker 2: But Bartolini, I thought, when he was put in the

609
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Speaker 2: center position, did play really well and showed a lot

610
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Speaker 2: of promise of being it. He kind of reminds me

611
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Speaker 2: of you, to be honest with you, the guy that

612
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Speaker 2: he went into that position and you wondered what it

613
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 2: was going to be, but it looked like he was

614
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 2: acclimated from the get go. Now, for you, when you

615
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 2: observe him or help him out as a young player,

616
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Speaker 2: can you see where there is growth or areas that

617
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Speaker 2: need to be improved.

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Speaker 8: I mean absolutely, I see growth from him every single day.

619
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Speaker 8: I know, you know, Tayner and Danny are battling it out.

620
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 8: You know, Wesley Fringes in the mix to They're all

621
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Speaker 8: great players, and I think it's really kind of come

622
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Speaker 8: down to little things in the game that obviously the

623
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Speaker 8: higher ups the coach is going to get going to decide.

624
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 8: But for me personally, I see improvements from all of them,

625
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 8: and I see how much they've worked on it, to

626
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 8: see how much team they want it, and that is

627
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Speaker 8: just you know, it fuels the whole group because if

628
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Speaker 8: there's if there's some guys you know doing extra reps,

629
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Speaker 8: then it encourages everyone else to do the same thing.

630
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Speaker 8: So we just keep on pushing each other, you know,

631
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Speaker 8: even if it's between a tackle and the center, it

632
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 8: doesn't matter. We try to improve as a group and

633
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 8: I think they're all going to be really, really good

634
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Speaker 8: for the season.

635
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Speaker 1: Do you remember your first start? Yeah, Do you remember.

636
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Speaker 2: The positive things that came from it or the place

637
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Speaker 2: where you got beat?

638
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Speaker 8: I mean, obviously I think as an athlete, as a

639
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 8: football player, but as an a lineman specifically, you always

640
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 8: remember the bad place.

641
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Speaker 1: Most then that has to kind of drive you a

642
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: little bit, right, It absolutely does.

643
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Speaker 6: I mean it's it's stings.

644
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Speaker 8: It hurts because you know, the good plays are expected

645
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 8: and the bad plays are unacceptable. So I think that's

646
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Speaker 8: just you know, part of the position it. You know,

647
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 8: the first you know it happens, it keeps you up

648
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 8: at night, but you know you end up learning from it.

649
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 8: You get you you're getting better from it. Is your

650
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 8: position mental? Oh absolutely?

651
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 2: You know does that make sense, like, can you get

652
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Speaker 2: into kind of a streak or a slump mentally where

653
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 2: then you got to fight your way back from it?

654
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 6: Oh?

655
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

656
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 8: I think You've seen in the league every year that

657
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 8: that people like get in their own heads, and players

658
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 8: that you know were are usually consistent, all of a

659
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 8: sudden drop off just because they're they're the mentalities and

660
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 8: right or day they started thinking about too much and

661
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 8: I absolutely believe that it's a huge thing about disposition

662
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 8: specifically just because there's a lot of pressure. So but

663
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 8: I mean for us, we just rely on each other

664
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 8: and we do good jobs supporting each other.

665
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 2: If you're in a contract year Bernard Drive and you're

666
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 2: in here, you are, and you're number four, you have

667
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 2: earned the right for a big time deal. You know,

668
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 2: I see the numbers twenty twenty one projected per year,

669
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 2: et cetera.

670
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: Is this the first priority of where you want to be?

671
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 6: No, I mean, first priority for me is winning a

672
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 6: Super Bowl this year.

673
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: That's But I mean in terms of the franchise you

674
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: want to be with, is it, Oh? Absolutely yes, yes.

675
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 8: I mean obviously we love it here. We would love to,

676
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:12,239
Speaker 8: you know, get things done. But I'm not I'm not

677
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 8: involved in this. Obviously you haven't. You have an agent

678
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 8: that takes care of this. From my understanding, there's they

679
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 8: aren't on the same page about things. So you say

680
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 8: they're not on the same page as of right now,

681
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 8: they're not exactly the same page right now. So but

682
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 8: I mean, as I said, for me, as a football player,

683
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 8: I'm I'm preparing for the season because that's what matters.

684
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand when you talk to your agent about it,

685
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 2: when he says, hey, look, they're not on the same page.

686
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 2: Do you think that that means just in terms of

687
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 2: the Colts don't want to have the discussion yet, or

688
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 2: the numbers themselves are way off base.

689
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 8: From my understanding is that the numbers don't always quite

690
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 8: add up yet, you know the way they they might

691
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 8: value a position differently than than than my team thinks

692
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 8: it is.

693
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: But I'm you know, we're working.

694
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 6: We're working on.

695
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 2: Your positions one of the most valuable here, you know that, right,

696
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 2: Like I'll be your agent for you here. Your position

697
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,239
Speaker 2: is really important, right So obviously I'm well aware of that.

698
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: You just want to make sure they're well aware of that.

699
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 8: Right absolutely, And I mean I know that my agent

700
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 8: knows that. Hoping the Colts know that too. But obviously

701
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 8: for me, it's just it's about the here and now

702
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 8: I'm improving. I'm working on this. We still have a

703
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 8: I have a guaranteed season with the Colts right now.

704
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 8: That's what I'm working on. That's been working towards that

705
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 8: Super Bowl and everything else is you know.

706
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 6: Up to people outside of outside of.

707
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, right here, Okay, I want to ask you this

708
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: every year.

709
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 2: I you know, when our jobs are similar in this aspect,

710
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 2: and that is that once the NFL season begins, if

711
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 2: I want to take time off for a vacation, it's

712
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 2: got to come really during the bye week, because you know,

713
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: everything kind of centers around what you guys are doing, understandably.

714
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 2: So so this year, on the bye week, I thought, well,

715
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 2: you know, I like to go over to Europe. That's

716
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 2: one of my things that I I enjoy doing. I

717
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,239
Speaker 2: really want to see Vienna, your home city of being

718
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 2: in Austria. But the bye week, I think, is the

719
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 2: first weekend in November. Now, what would the weather be

720
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 2: like if I go over then?

721
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: Is that a.

722
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 8: Terrible time to go? I don't think it's ever a

723
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 8: terrible time to visit Vienna. But it's gonna be similar

724
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 8: to here, similar to like the Midwest temperature, So it

725
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 8: might be cold and rainy there, but it's it's it's

726
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 8: still a beautiful time. I mean, you can still do

727
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 8: a lot of sight seeing there. I'm not quite sure

728
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 8: if the Christmas markets will be open by then, but

729
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 8: that's definitely something.

730
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: You got it. That's pretty cool, right? Yeah? What do

731
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: you miss most about home.

732
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 6: Family and friends, so that the people really do.

733
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 1: You get a chance. How often do you go back

734
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: or like in the off season you get to go back.

735
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 6: Usually we go into off season.

736
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 8: But this year my wife and I we just had

737
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 8: a baby, so obviously we didn't we didn't travel with

738
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 8: a little one.

739
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: But we'll be back, gratch. How old is the baby?

740
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 6: Five months now? Thank you?

741
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: So are you getting any sleep?

742
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:55,959
Speaker 6: Yeah?

743
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean we moved into the hotel right now,

744
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 8: so that's obviously helping. But she's she's been great, she's

745
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 8: been she's been a good sleeper.

746
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 2: Okay, So with that in terms of right now, just

747
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 2: your overall mindset when you look at this roster, you

748
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 2: look at where you guys were from a year ago

749
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 2: and maybe areas you fell short. What is both the

750
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 2: Bernard Rayman and the Indianapolis Colt? I guess mindset. And

751
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 2: I know you're going to say, well, it's to go

752
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 2: to the super Bowl.

753
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: I get that. I'm out looking for the patent answer here, right.

754
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 2: The reality answer is when you guys resume and you

755
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 2: sit down and you look over things, the area that

756
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 2: you say to yourself, we've got to get this right,

757
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 2: is what I.

758
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,439
Speaker 6: Think it's just daily improvements. It's it's the little things.

759
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 6: You know.

760
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 8: Sometimes it's a lot of the times it's like a

761
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 8: player too short, that's a score, a field goal that different,

762
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 8: that can make a difference at the end of the game.

763
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 8: It's it's always close, but you know we can't afford

764
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 8: that as a team. You know, close isn't good enough,

765
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:50,439
Speaker 8: So shame.

766
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 2: Schichen had mentioned that that games oftentimes come down to

767
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 2: like the last couple of drives and the frantic nature

768
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: of it. Now he told us, I don't know if

769
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: he's told you this, that in practice what he wants

770
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 2: to try to do in this camp is create havoc

771
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 2: and create chaos for you guys to then get used

772
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 2: to navigating through.

773
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: Have you seen that approach from a practice standpoint?

774
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 6: Absolutely.

775
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 8: I mean there's been a lot of urgency, a lot

776
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 8: of you know, different situations thrown at us in meetings

777
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 8: in practice, and I think the coaches are really trying

778
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,760
Speaker 8: to push all of us, not just physical, but also,

779
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 8: like you mentioned, mentally with the different situations like you know,

780
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 8: end up the game and stuff.

781
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 6: So I've definitely noticed that.

782
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 2: Okay, lastly is because we did this last time. I

783
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 2: talked to you so Arnold Schwarzenegger obviously is from Austria.

784
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 2: You probably get tired of doing this every single time

785
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 2: you talked to be unli.

786
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: We had you do.

787
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 2: Bernard Ryman, I'll be back, like in the Schwarzenegger voice.

788
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 2: But now what I need you to say is, I'm

789
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 2: Bernard Ryman and I want to be back. All right,

790
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: all right now your agent probably you don't want to

791
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 2: hear that. But here we go from a leverage standpoint.

792
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,439
Speaker 2: All right, here we go three two and one.

793
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 6: I'm Bernard Ryman and I want to be back.

794
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, all right, Bernard Ryman here four, appreciate it.

795
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 2: Better for luck to you. Bernard Ryman. Here, Colts Camp

796
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 2: Practice number two. We will recap for you everything it

797
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 2: took place here at the camp itself and get you

798
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 2: set up for this on what is going to be

799
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 2: a very very warm Thursday, no question about it's quarry

800
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 2: company here.

801
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: You're listening to it ninety three five one to seventy

802
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: five to the fan.

803
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 2: So you folks tell me if I'm wrong, but it

804
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 2: seemed to me, and yes, I cannot imagine a scenario

805
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 2: where the Colts don't do everything possible to retain Bernard Rayman.

806
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 2: But when he said my understanding from my agent is

807
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 2: that we are not close, I thought initially what he

808
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 2: meant by that was because I was thinking about Ryan

809
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 2: Kelly and a year ago when Chris Ballard had said, like,

810
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 2: you know, we let Ryan Kelly know that we will

811
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 2: wait until the end of the year before we assess things.

812
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 2: And obviously, in that situation and understandably, you know, the

813
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 2: Colts decided to move on and go with a younger cent.

814
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: I get that.

815
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 2: But in the case of Bernard Ryman, you know, I

816
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 2: think the best interest here for the Colts is to

817
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 2: lock him in now because I think realistically, and yes, certainly,

818
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 2: Bernard Ryman is a guy that could get hurt knock

819
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 2: on wood. You don't wish that for anybody, opposition, or

820
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 2: you know, whatever it may be. But having said that,

821
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 2: I think the longer that he goes and the more

822
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 2: he plays into this year, and the more that he

823
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 2: continues to progress as he has and he has progressed,

824
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 2: he is a good player.

825
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: And that is I'm telling you.

826
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 2: The left tackle position is one that the value alone

827
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 2: of just having that be a box checked that you

828
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 2: don't have to worry about the value in that alone

829
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 2: is a starting point that gives you financial flexibility or

830
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 2: financial if you're the player that you go with that

831
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 2: and say, look look at the number of teams around

832
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 2: the NFL that are looking still for a left tackle.

833
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 2: It is this town and this franchise I think have

834
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 2: been spoiled by the fact that you go essentially from

835
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 2: Tarak Glenn right to Anthony Costanzo and then essentially you know,

836
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 2: a bumpy transition and then into Bernard Ryman, and Ryman

837
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 2: looks like he is going to be a long term

838
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 2: pillar guy. And if he is, the value alone in

839
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 2: knowing that that is a position that you don't have

840
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 2: to further analyze or address ask other teams around the league.

841
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 2: And the more that he plays this year, and the

842
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 2: more that he plays at the level he's playing, you

843
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 2: are increasing the odds that elsewhere some franchise is going

844
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 2: to run into a situation be it did injury, due

845
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 2: to retirement, any number of things where they then are

846
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 2: in a situation where now they are back to the

847
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 2: drawing board on left tackle, and that is the one

848
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 2: of quarterback would be the hardest.

849
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,720
Speaker 1: But I think if you ask a lot of people.

850
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 2: They would tell you that left tackle is one of

851
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 2: the five hardest positions in the NFL to find long

852
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 2: term stability and replacement. And if Bernard Rayman is playing

853
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 2: at a continued level that we have seen before going

854
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 2: into this season and through this season, and you start,

855
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 2: you allow him yet another opportunity to showcase himself, that

856
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 2: price tag ain't going down. The only way, the only

857
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 2: way that Bernard Ryman's value decreases between now and whenever

858
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 2: the Colts decide to side him is if he's injured.

859
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 2: And in that case, it doesn't help anybody that there's

860
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 2: no you know, I mean, then you're back to square one. Anyway,

861
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 2: I think you lock him in now because his value

862
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 2: is only going to increase.

863
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: It's only going to increase.

864
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,919
Speaker 2: And obviously if he has a career ending injury, then

865
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 2: you know, that's one of those things that exists in

866
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 2: football that threat that risk. But by the way, my

867
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 2: computer here, Eddie, and I think this might mean it's incorrect.

868
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 2: My computer says it's fifty three degrees outside. Now that

869
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 2: that's not right, right, I think that's Celsius. I think

870
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 2: I think that's Celsius. Pretty sure it still thinks I'm

871
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 2: in Manchester, That's what it is. It still thinks I'm

872
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 2: in Manchester and that's celsius. It's not even humidity. That's

873
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 2: not even humidity percentage. So Stephanie White.

874
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 3: If it was fifty five celsius outside, you would be

875
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 3: in one hundred and thirty one degree fahrenheit.

876
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,919
Speaker 2: That's about right then, right, I think that's right. That's

877
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 2: exactly what it is. The heatn' next heaten next. I

878
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 2: don't know if you know this or not. He did next

879
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,720
Speaker 2: today one sixty one? Did you know that it feels

880
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 2: like that?

881
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: Now?

882
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 2: Temperature is just simply a measurement of what the air

883
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 2: feels like. So I don't know how the temperature can

884
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 2: then have it feels like? How can you have it

885
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 2: feels like of what it feels like?

886
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 3: You need to ask where your meteorologist friends, you know what.

887
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 2: Stephanie White went to brue and they have a great

888
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 2: meteorology meteorology school.

889
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: I'll ask her, do you think she'll know?

890
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 3: Maybe I'll ask her.

891
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: Stephanie White, head coach of the Fever next.

892
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 2: Now, when we asked Fever head coach Stephanie White last week,

893
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 2: what artists you would like to hear again when we

894
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 2: bring her on, she said, Adele, but she actually thought

895
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 2: about her for two and a half minutes. So I

896
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 2: think that means that we're now out of options. So

897
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 2: do we just go back to what are we doing

898
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 2: at any next week? Do we go back to Kitty

899
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 2: Chesney again?

900
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: Is that what we do?

901
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 3: I'm not sure?

902
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 2: Do we play the theme to Shawshank? We can't play Oasis? Right,

903
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 2: we know that we ruled that out. Okay, The Fever

904
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 2: in action tonight taking on Las Vegas. It is the

905
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 2: Stranger Things. Jersey return for the Fever tonight, joining us

906
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 2: now on the program. Head coach of the Fever, who

907
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 2: stand at twelve and twelve after dropping one to New

908
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 2: York in their last outing. Coach, I'm going to begin

909
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 2: with this before we get into basketball. I was just

910
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 2: saying I'd like to know and I'm going to trust

911
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 2: you now, when you were a student and basketball player

912
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 2: at Perdue, your major was what.

913
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 9: Aviation for my first two years in college and then

914
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 9: communications my last two years.

915
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: Okay, so aviation is Perdue? Is I mean? It goes

916
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 1: without saying right?

917
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 2: I mean, you've got two of the most famous aviators

918
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 2: in world history, both from Purdue. When you were in aviation,

919
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 2: did you have to take any sort of like meteorology

920
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 2: classes or science of the atmosphere type classes.

921
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 6: Absolutely did.

922
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 9: Yes, we had to take meteorology. We had to take

923
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 9: all of that.

924
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 10: Had had to learn about engines too.

925
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,760
Speaker 9: In fact, I had to take apart and put together

926
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 9: a car engine so I could figure out how the

927
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 9: engines worked with all the pistons and everything else.

928
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 10: And so it was.

929
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 9: It was quite comprehensive, not just you know, touching goes

930
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 9: when you're taking off and landing in airplanes.

931
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 2: So do you know the reason I ask, do you

932
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 2: have any idea within any sort of ballpark of accuracy

933
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 2: how you translate celsius to fahrenheit temperatures?

934
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 9: Absolutely not, because you know, we learned it in the

935
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 9: We learned it in the American fahrenheit back in the old.

936
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 11: Days, of course.

937
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: And you know, I go over, like I went to

938
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 2: England for that concert, and they're like, now dress appropriately,

939
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,399
Speaker 2: it's going to be thirty one fahrenheit. I'm like, wow,

940
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 2: it's freezing. Find out it's one hundred and ten. I

941
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 2: have no idea. So my point being right now outside

942
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 2: or you know, or they said thirty one celsius and

943
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 2: that's like, you know, I mean, I don't know what

944
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 2: that translates to, but it was hot, right, So I'm

945
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 2: assuming right now it's very high and celsius because it

946
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,240
Speaker 2: is very warm. But let's get to engines and talking

947
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 2: about that. There is a big question mark in regards

948
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 2: to one of the most important pistons within the engine

949
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 2: of the fever, that of Caitlin Clark.

950
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:24,959
Speaker 1: Where do we stand? What is the ladies?

951
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 2: You can tell us on what she has learned in

952
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 2: seeking medical opinion about the injury she's dealing with.

953
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 10: I see what you did there too? That was that

954
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:34,720
Speaker 10: was really good.

955
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: That's the second part. That's that communication. So I know that.

956
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,720
Speaker 2: See I got into the communication aspect of the degree

957
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 2: also there right.

958
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 12: You did? You did?

959
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 10: It's it was pretty good.

960
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 9: But no new no new information outside of what we

961
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,479
Speaker 9: what we thought with when she went to see the doctor.

962
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 10: I mean, everything is pretty much.

963
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 9: On bar with just aggravation of that right groin, and

964
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 9: you know right now there's there's no timetable for a return.

965
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 10: I think one of the things that's so important.

966
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 9: Is because there have been multiple soft tissue injuries, is

967
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 9: that we make sure number one that that she's she's

968
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 9: fully healed, comfortable, confident when she comes back. And number

969
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 9: two that that we we take our time. I know

970
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 9: she wants to play, I know we want her to play,

971
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 9: but there have been multiple setbacks, you know, to this point.

972
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 9: So I want to just make sure that that that

973
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 9: we we give it it's it's due, and give it

974
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 9: it's it's it's time to heal as she continues to rehab, recovers, strength, train,

975
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,439
Speaker 9: and build endurance again for when that return to play.

976
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 10: Timetable comes about.

977
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 2: When you were seeking more opinion, coach, were you, in

978
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 2: other words, when you heard back that there was kind

979
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 2: of nothing new to report? Was that a good thing

980
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 2: or a bad thing? In other words, is there a

981
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 2: frustration of not knowing exactly what it is? Or was

982
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 2: there a relief of knowing that it was not more

983
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,720
Speaker 2: complex than you might have thought?

984
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 4: Yeah?

985
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 10: I mean, I think always when you're an athlete or just.

986
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 9: A human being, right, you want to have more than

987
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 9: than one or two opinions, particularly when your body.

988
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 10: Is your is your you know, vessel, it's your it's

989
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 10: what you do for your profession.

990
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 9: And so you know, making sure that that she making

991
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 9: sure that she got multiple opinions from you know, some

992
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 9: of the best in the business, and and I think

993
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 9: it's a relief to know that there's nothing worse that

994
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 9: what you had had anticipated, at least I'm speaking from

995
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 9: from you know, my perspective. I would never speak for Caitlin,

996
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 9: but I also think there's there with self fissue injuries,

997
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 9: there's always a little bit of frushration because it's never

998
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 9: one thing or another. You know, when you when you

999
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 9: sprain an ankle or when you have another injury, that's

1000
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 9: that's pretty cut and dry. You have a clear timetable,

1001
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 9: you understand uh what you're dealing with and how you

1002
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 9: attack that process. And with self tissue injuries, they're so complex,

1003
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 9: they're so frustrating and and and challenging, and they really

1004
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 9: do just continue to nag until you have that time

1005
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 9: to shed it down.

1006
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 2: From your perspective, and again I'm not asking you to

1007
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 2: speak for Caitlin Clark, but from your perspective, Stepanie White,

1008
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 2: you know, as an athlete, how do you think she's doing,

1009
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 2: just in terms of the frustration, the timeline and everything

1010
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 2: that goes into dealing with something that she did not

1011
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 2: have to deal with a lot in college, and that

1012
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 2: is this navigating through missing time.

1013
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, sure, it's frustration.

1014
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 9: You know, every competitor wants to be out there on

1015
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 9: the floor doing what they love, you know.

1016
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 10: Certainly, I know that.

1017
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 9: You know, and and and to be able to do it,

1018
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 9: you know, at a high level and feeling comfortable and

1019
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 9: confident in your body and.

1020
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 10: What you can do. So I'm sure that there's frustration,

1021
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 10: you know.

1022
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 9: I'm also sure that there's frustration dealing with multiple times,

1023
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 9: you know, and and adding to that having All Star

1024
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 9: in Indianapolis and not.

1025
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 10: Being able to participate.

1026
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 9: But you know, at the same time, being an athlete,

1027
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 9: you know, you understand that there are times where this

1028
00:47:55,960 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 9: is going to happen. Injuries happened, setbacks happen, you know.

1029
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 9: Fortunately for Caitlyn, she hasn't experienced a lot of injury

1030
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 9: and a lot of set back. Fortunately for her, she

1031
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 9: also has a staff full of players who have experienced

1032
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 9: a lot of injuries, between myself and Breon January and

1033
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 9: Kareema Christmas Kelly, and so you know, we're our ability

1034
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 9: to help her navigate through the highs and lows of

1035
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 9: what it means to rehab, recover and the frustrations of

1036
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 9: you know, being in and out of the lineup and

1037
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 9: on the floor fever.

1038
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 2: Back in action tonight taking on Las Vegas. Stephanie White,

1039
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 2: their head coach, is our guest here on Quari and Company.

1040
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,919
Speaker 2: You come off of after getting to the five hundred mark,

1041
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 2: dropping back to back to New York. In terms of

1042
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 2: that particular matchup, what things can you learn from that

1043
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,879
Speaker 2: in terms of what the Liberty were able to do

1044
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 2: or areas where you fell short. That are areas that

1045
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 2: you look at and say, okay, learning example here that

1046
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 2: we need to take away from this is blank.

1047
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 9: That would be what I think first and foremost. You

1048
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 9: know there you can't the margin for aer small. You know,

1049
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 9: we had about a for for for thirty four thirty

1050
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 9: five minutes of that ball game. They we were really good,

1051
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 9: and against teams like New York, you know, you can't

1052
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 9: afford to have those those four to five minute stretches

1053
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 9: where you struggle because they're so dangerous. I mean, they've

1054
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 9: got like six Olympians on that team, you know, from

1055
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 9: various various countries around the world, and and their depth

1056
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 9: and their ability.

1057
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 10: To play inside and outside.

1058
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 9: You know, with John Quell Jones returning, especially, so you

1059
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 9: can't afford to have those lapses.

1060
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 10: You know, we the last two minutes.

1061
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 9: Two and a half minutes of the third quarter, they

1062
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 9: went on a nine to ozer run and they were

1063
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 9: able to carry that over into the first two and

1064
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 9: a half three minutes of the of the fourth quarter.

1065
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 9: And against those teams that that just puts you in

1066
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 9: a bond, put you in a hole. And and you know,

1067
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 9: that's again a growing.

1068
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 10: Area for our team.

1069
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 9: You know, they've got world champions and lectal champions on

1070
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 9: their teams, so they understand those those moments, and we've

1071
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 9: got to continue to grow through those and shorten those.

1072
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 9: We know, teams are good. New York is one of

1073
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 9: the best. Obviously there were there were w NBA Championship

1074
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 9: champion a year ago. But we've got to be able

1075
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 9: to find ways to navigate runs and to minimize runs.

1076
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: You know, you've got a good roster obviously.

1077
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 2: I mean it goes without saying, and I think Aery McDonald,

1078
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 2: as you've talked about, has been a really good pickup

1079
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 2: for you guys. That Leah Boston's played well, Kelsey Mitchell

1080
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 2: goes without saying.

1081
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 1: But Caitlin Clark is so important coaching. We know that.

1082
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 2: Okay, from a coaching standpoint, how do you kind of

1083
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 2: navigate through making sure that you have a group that

1084
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 2: is aware of the fact that they have a job

1085
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 2: to do even without one of those pistons, while at

1086
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 2: the same time knowing that when that piston comes back,

1087
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 2: you have to immediately and the time is running out

1088
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 2: on the acclamation period. So how do you keep the

1089
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 2: focus there within the group that is playing well.

1090
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 9: I mean, we talk about control and the things that

1091
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 9: we can control. And this is a group who won

1092
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 9: the Commissioner's Cup, you know, while Kaitlyn.

1093
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 10: Was not able to play.

1094
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 9: It's a group who found a little bit of groove,

1095
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 9: you know during that timeframe, understanding what it takes, you know,

1096
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 9: being able to continue to to play confident. You know,

1097
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 9: I thought there was a stretch there in that game

1098
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 9: against against New York where we passed up open shots,

1099
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 9: we second guests a little bit in ways that that

1100
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 9: we we shouldn't and and and couldn't, you know. So

1101
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 9: making sure we stay confident in one another, stay confident

1102
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 9: in our process, say, connected with one another, knowing knowing

1103
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 9: that we have pieces that it that it takes to

1104
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 9: to be able to be successful and put ourselves in

1105
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 9: position for success. And then when Caitlyn comes back, you know,

1106
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 9: it's the reacclamation period. The thing about about bringing Caitlyn

1107
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 9: Caitlin back and losing Caitlyn in the lineup is that

1108
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 9: she's got the ball in her hands a lot. Uh

1109
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 9: So the things that we run, the way that the

1110
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:42,439
Speaker 9: ball moves, the attack from defenses is different, and and

1111
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 9: and our looks on the floor are different. Her gravity

1112
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 9: is so great that that it changes the dynamics of

1113
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 9: how teams play us and and what we what we

1114
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 9: tend to get. And so that is the single toughest

1115
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 9: thing with her in and out of the lineup. But

1116
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:58,720
Speaker 9: you know, we have the pieces that have found success,

1117
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 9: and you know, just being able to stay confident throughout

1118
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 9: the ebbs and flows of a game is important.

1119
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 2: As a competitor. Stephanie White, our guest head coach of

1120
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 2: the Indiana Fever. As a competitor, Stephanie, when you look

1121
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 2: back at your career, whether it be as a player

1122
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 2: or a coach, I think one thing is that one

1123
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 2: thing that makes all elite level athletes you know the same,

1124
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 2: is just the competitive nature and focus. When you look

1125
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 2: at yourself. Would you say that you were more driven

1126
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 2: by chasing the feeling of the top of competition or

1127
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 2: by learning from and never letting go of your failure.

1128
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 9: I think probably the never letting go of the failure,

1129
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 9: because if you ask most competitors, those are the ones

1130
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 9: that they remember. You know, you don't remember a lot

1131
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 9: of the wins. Heck, sometimes you don't even remember the

1132
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 9: championships unless they're the big ones. Like if you ask

1133
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 9: me about conference championships in college, I don't really remember,

1134
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 9: but the but the national championship is the one I do.

1135
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 9: But I remember the game where I had a double

1136
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 9: double and one of them was turnovers and I didn't

1137
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 9: make the game where I didn't make a field goal

1138
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 9: at Notre Dame my junior year, you know, or the

1139
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 9: game where I had eight turnovers my freshman year when

1140
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 9: we were playing in Vegas tournament. You know, you remember

1141
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 9: the negative stuff, You remember the failures, you remember the setbacks,

1142
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 9: and that drives you to be better, at least for me.

1143
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 10: Uh, you know, that's what it was.

1144
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 9: And when you chase, when you chase success and you

1145
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 9: chase titles and you chase all of that, I mean,

1146
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 9: that's that's ultimately, you know, it's it's the end game, it's.

1147
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 10: What you dream of.

1148
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 9: But ultimately, you're chasing the best version of yourself. You're

1149
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 9: chasing that elusive perfection that you're never going to get.

1150
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 9: You're chasing growth. You're chasing being better than you were

1151
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 9: the last game, or being better than you were.

1152
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 10: The previous year.

1153
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 9: You know. The result of that oftentimes ends up being

1154
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 9: championships or individual awards or whatever it may be. But

1155
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 9: it's the drive to be the best that you can

1156
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 9: be that you chase, and it's fueled the failures that

1157
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 9: you've had along the way.

1158
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 2: Have you had games where your team won but you

1159
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 2: felt like it was a failure because they didn't do

1160
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 2: something that needed to be worked on.

1161
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 10: Yeah, for sure.

1162
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 9: I think a prime example of that is our last

1163
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 9: Dallas game, and we were up big in the first half,

1164
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 9: and we came out in the second half and and

1165
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 9: just kind of played the game. You know, I felt

1166
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 9: like that was an opportunity for us to really learn

1167
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 9: what it meant to stay sharp, to not play the score.

1168
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 9: They may have even outscored us by a couple in

1169
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 9: the second half.

1170
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 2: You know.

1171
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 9: The last I think four or five minutes of the

1172
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,879
Speaker 9: ball game wasn't as sharp and crisp as it needed

1173
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 9: to be, you know. And that's that's the growth process

1174
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 9: of a team that.

1175
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 10: Hasn't won championships.

1176
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 9: Right. It's like you have to approach the game, the

1177
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 9: possession the same way, no matter what in ways that

1178
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 9: you see the New York, the Minnesota, you know doing,

1179
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 9: the Vegas is doing. And I think that's again a

1180
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 9: growth process for our game. And you know, I always

1181
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 9: always say this, and I know it sounds cliche, but

1182
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 9: it's true. It's there's no substitute for experience. And when

1183
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 9: you I haven't experienced that at this level, you have

1184
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 9: to grow through it. You have to learn it. It's

1185
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 9: not something that's just in a in most players.

1186
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 2: You know, the Stephanie White is our coach of course,

1187
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 2: or our guests, I should say, the coach for the

1188
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 2: INDIANAF or our coach as well for the Indiana Fever. Tonight,

1189
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 2: back in action, taking on Las Vegas and getting back

1190
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 2: into things. So you would like to see what tonight

1191
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 2: obviously a win, but coming off of a now twelve

1192
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 2: and twelve, the big thing that you want to see

1193
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 2: that is going to show you that things are indeed

1194
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 2: coming off the right direction, coming off the two losses

1195
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 2: to New York.

1196
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 10: Would be what I want to see us with our

1197
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 10: defensive execution.

1198
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,439
Speaker 9: I want our defensive execution to be lead, our point

1199
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 9: of attack, our disruption. I want them to feel us,

1200
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 9: you know, nothing easy. I want to make sure that

1201
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 9: we make them work for everything that they.

1202
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 10: Get, that they take the shots that we're willing to

1203
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 10: live with.

1204
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 9: And I want to see us take care of the ball,

1205
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 9: gives ourselves opportunities for high quality shots, and make sure

1206
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 9: that we're that we value every possession.

1207
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 1: White Head coach Indiana Fever. All right.

1208
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 2: Lastly, and most importantly, next time that we have a

1209
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 2: conversation with you. We've done Kenny Chesney, we've done Adell.

1210
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:07,760
Speaker 2: What's next?

1211
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:09,760
Speaker 10: I think we got to go Jimmy Buffett.

1212
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: All right, No way, we can't go. Here's the thing, though.

1213
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 2: We can't go Cheeseburger and Paradise or margart Reedville because

1214
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:18,720
Speaker 2: that's too obvious.

1215
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 12: Right, you have it, Come Monday.

1216
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:22,760
Speaker 10: Let's go come Monday.

1217
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 1: All right, fair enough, we can do that one. We

1218
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: can do.

1219
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 2: Jimmy Buffett is one of those you mentioned it we

1220
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 2: talked about earlier. I mean, it is a It was,

1221
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 2: I should say, a fabulous concert. And didn't everybody in

1222
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,240
Speaker 2: college at some point go through a phase where somebody

1223
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 2: just had like the Jimmy Buffet's greatest hits, and everybody

1224
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 2: thought it was new and you didn't realize you were

1225
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 2: listening stuff from fifteen years ago.

1226
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 12: You know what I mean, no doubt, exactly, no question.

1227
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,760
Speaker 2: Back in the days when you were taking apart engines

1228
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:48,720
Speaker 2: and putting them back together.

1229
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 1: I like it.

1230
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,959
Speaker 2: And now of course trying to get that engine fine

1231
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,240
Speaker 2: tuned for the Indiana Fever tonight against Las Vegas.

1232
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: Coach appreciated.

1233
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 2: All right, all right, thanks shake all right, Stephanie White

1234
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 2: joining us on the program, and again to re cap

1235
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 2: the big news off the top. There no new information

1236
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 2: learn about the injury of Kaitlin Clark in terms of

1237
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 2: the other opinions medically speaking, and no necessarily new way

1238
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 2: in which going about things. In other words, that they

1239
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 2: know no more in terms of a time frame of

1240
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 2: her return.

1241
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: Eddie, we talked about it.

1242
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 2: You of course will be on the pregame and post

1243
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 2: game broadcast tonight.

1244
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: For the Indiana Fever.

1245
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 2: And one of the things I think becomes a challenge

1246
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 2: is just trying to figure out exactly when you then

1247
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 2: kind of say to yourself, this is who we're going

1248
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 2: to have to now just defer to who we are

1249
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 2: without Caitlin Clark, because you want her on the floor, obviously,

1250
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 2: but you've got to still use this particular group and

1251
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 2: find the ways that this group plays without her, But

1252
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 2: you don't necessarily want to completely focus moving forward on

1253
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 2: being a Caitlin Clark less team. I think that balance,

1254
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 2: Eddie is one of the things that's tough.

1255
00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 3: I thought they took a step in the right direct

1256
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 3: in that game against the Liberty because even though they

1257
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 3: lose the game, they were in control of it for

1258
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 3: the first two and a half quarters and then things

1259
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 3: kind of shifted in the final you know, four minutes

1260
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 3: of the third and certainly at the start of the

1261
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 3: fourth quarter, and it felt like they had figured things

1262
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 3: out and then they just kind of hit a loll

1263
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 3: and that was the role where they could have used

1264
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 3: the Caitlyn Clark. And I believe this group because it's

1265
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 3: a lot of veteran type players. You've got Aliah Boston,

1266
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 3: Sophie Cunningham, Kelsey Mitchell, Natasha Howard, et cetera. Where they

1267
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,919
Speaker 3: can learn from these mistakes and these shortcomings to better

1268
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 3: them in the future, just because that is how things

1269
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 3: are going to have to be the time right now,

1270
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 3: and you got to find a way to string together

1271
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 3: some wins to improve your playoff positioning. So when Caitlin

1272
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,439
Speaker 3: Clark does come back, you can pick up right where

1273
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 3: you left off.

1274
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, the look very very important piece, no question about that.

1275
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 2: And again I go back to the one thing, and

1276
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 2: there is a bit of a timeline that goes on

1277
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 2: with this.

1278
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: The one thing that I kind of hope.

1279
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 2: In all of this is that if you are the fever,

1280
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:01,919
Speaker 2: you look at it and you say, if we're getting

1281
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 2: everybody else involved and we're playing without Caitlin Clark, then

1282
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 2: when she comes back, you can still continue with that

1283
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 2: same modus operandi as long as she is coming in

1284
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 2: as facilitator. First, isn't that a word modus operandi? Did

1285
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 2: I say that incorrectly?

1286
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1287
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: I just haven't heard that before, Eddie.

1288
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 2: I was an English major in college, which means when

1289
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 2: you're an English major, one of two things can.

1290
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: Very well said.

1291
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 2: Actually a good point, because I was an English major,

1292
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 2: and then towards the end there I had to switch

1293
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 2: because to have an English degree you had to have

1294
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 2: eight semesters of foreign language, and I had four semesters

1295
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 2: of Spanish, and then I had three semesters of Swahili

1296
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 2: and it was no longer offered so I could So

1297
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 2: I would have had to go back and redo and

1298
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 2: start all over again with the second foreign language. And

1299
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 2: you can guess what the odds of that were. So

1300
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 2: I had to switch the major in order to complete

1301
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 2: my degree and graduate. But that's why, kids, you don't

1302
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 2: take a thirty one year delay in the process. But

1303
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 2: as an English major, one thing I've learned you can

1304
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 2: use words every once in a while that people are

1305
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 2: unfamiliar with, and if you make up words or say

1306
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 2: them in correctly, you get benefit of that out because

1307
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 2: you're an.

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01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 1: English major, right I guess. So yeah, So having said that, you.

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Speaker 2: It feels to me like if you just go on

1310
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 2: and say we're going to play under the assumption that

1311
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 2: we're not going to have Caitlin Clark for a while,

1312
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 2: and then when she does return, you have her return

1313
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 2: as the point guard facilitator to simply continue running the

1314
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 2: engine as it's been running, and then you start to

1315
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 2: allow her to get her shots and get her offensively

1316
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 2: her scoring aspect of it. If you just air drop

1317
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 2: her back in as a scorer when you have a

1318
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 2: group that has been scoring without her, then I think

1319
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 2: that's where it becomes more complicated, if that makes sense

1320
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I again, we are at Colts Camp

1321
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 2: Grand Park up in Westfield. It is I will admit

1322
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 2: it's not. It doesn't feel as bad because there's a

1323
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 2: breeze now, but it is definitely warm outside. And I

1324
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 2: want to remind everybody. Uh, and let you know, if

1325
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Speaker 2: you're watching on the YouTube and we thank you for

1326
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 2: doing so, are.

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Speaker 3: You gonna smile at the camera and uh, hey.

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Speaker 1: God, here you go? You ready position yourself? This is

1329
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 1: it's radio, so not very many people can see this.

1330
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 2: But if you're watching later on, and we hope that

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01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 2: you do watching on the YouTube, you ready.

1332
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, there you go.

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01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 2: Uh, this looks like I'm getting ready to down a

1334
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 2: bottle of tequila.

1335
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Speaker 1: It totally looks that way. And you said today's National

1336
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 1: Tequila Day.

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01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 3: It is indeed it is.

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01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 2: Indeed, this is just good old artesian water. That means

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01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 2: it's out of a well somewhere. I don't know where

1340
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 2: I've always thought that it would would it be illegal

1341
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 2: to do this? Could you just start bottling water out

1342
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 2: of your faucet and come up with a company and

1343
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 2: sell it? Oh?

1344
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 1: My, would abody?

1345
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 3: You would have put the ingredients on it, wouldn't you?

1346
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 1: H two O two hydrogen? Whate oxygen? What ingredients? And

1347
01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 1: what else is there to tapwater?

1348
01:01:58,720 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 8: Well?

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01:01:58,880 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1350
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 3: Water's all the I don't know if the FDA would

1351
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 3: approve of that?

1352
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 1: Why not?

1353
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 2: I mean the FDA allows you to drink it at home, right,

1354
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 2: I don't think it that's fluoride in anymore?

1355
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 1: Does it?

1356
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 2: Didn't we take that out? H two? That's all you

1357
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 2: need literally, just just you just put it right there

1358
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 2: in the tap. Tell people it's from the flowing springs

1359
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 2: of Meridian. Kessler, who knows the difference?

1360
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Speaker 1: Right?

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01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 3: We got going on in the background there I sounds

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01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 3: that we've got some hammering and nails going on.

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01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 1: There is I am in it?

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Speaker 2: Okay to set the scene here at Grand Park and Westfield,

1365
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 2: if you have been for Colts Camp, you obviously have

1366
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 2: the main practice field. The north end of that practice

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01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 2: field in the end zone. Just behind the end zone

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01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 2: is a row there are I believe, four rather large tents.

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01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 2: Those tents have the front side of it opens up

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01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 2: towards the field. The backside of it, if you so choose,

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01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 2: you can close that and then the people that are

1372
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 2: behind on Touchdowntown can't see across into the practice field.

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01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 2: We have both areas open for the obvious reason because,

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01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 2: like I mentioned earlier, I am Matt Damon and the Martian.

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Speaker 1: It's one hundred and sixty two degrees here, and just beside.

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01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 2: Me there is one other tent, and the vinyl paneling

1377
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 2: of that tent in the wind is slapping against the

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Speaker 2: tent that I'm in.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's Casey Valier.

1380
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:17,919
Speaker 3: Matt Taylor returned and they were just trying to put

1381
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 3: that table together that they picked up and carried out.

1382
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 2: Casey Valuer and Matt Taylor indeed about an hour ago,

1383
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 2: picked up their table and simply left. Now, Casey Valier,

1384
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 2: I'm watching right now, he is leaving all together. He

1385
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 2: is packed up, he's got all this stuff. There are

1386
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 2: two areas of motion right now at Grand Park. One

1387
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 2: is Casey Valier leaving the practice facility. The other is

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01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 2: the truck that is coming and changing out the Portalts.

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01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 2: It's got two up on the back. I'm hoping that

1390
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 2: there are no potholes that would be ugly. And Matt

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01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 2: Taylor is here, and Matt Taylor is actually going to

1392
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 2: join us. Coming up just about five minutes from now,

1393
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 2: we will get you caught up on everything that's been

1394
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 2: going on at Colt's camp. We'll get Matt Taylor's reaction

1395
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 2: and thoughts on this day number two of practice. There

1396
01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 2: was one player that continues to kind of shine. There

1397
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 2: was one player that shows a little bit of inconsistency

1398
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 2: and had a hiccup today. There is one player that

1399
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 2: earlier told us that even though he is in a

1400
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 2: contract year, things are getting interesting because his agent tells

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01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 2: him that he and the Colts are not on the

1402
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 2: same page quote end quote, and that from a numbers standpoint,

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01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 2: they are not close. I'm talking about Bernard Ryman, who

1404
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 2: made that comment to us just before the show began today.

1405
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 2: We aired that interview come at about twelve thirty that

1406
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 2: is available in podcast format one oh seventy five to

1407
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 2: fan dot com. But Bernard Ryman, when I asked him

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01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 2: about the contract status and being in a contract year,

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01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 2: and he said, I let someone else deal with that,

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01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 2: but it is my understanding is, and I'm paraphrasing, that

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01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:47,919
Speaker 2: we are not close. And I said, I'm sorry. He said,

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01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 2: we are not on the same page. That's what it was.

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01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 2: We are not on the same page. I then immediately

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01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 2: defer back in my mind to the situation with Ryan

1415
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 2: Kelly a year ago where Chris Ballard made it very

1416
01:04:57,920 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 2: clear during camp that they did not want to have

1417
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 2: that new go pociation at that time, but would rather

1418
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 2: table that discussion. Obviously, you saw that Ryan Kelly. They

1419
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 2: decided to go in another direction at the center position.

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01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 2: I cannot foresee any way, shape or form that the

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01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 2: Colts are looking to go on to any other situation

1422
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 2: at left tackle other than Bernard Ryman. So I asked him,

1423
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 2: do you mean that when you say you're not on

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01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 2: the same page, that they're not willing to have that

1425
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 2: conversation right now? Or do you mean the numbers are

1426
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 2: not the same And he said, I mean the numbers

1427
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 2: are not close. So that's where things stand with Bernard Ryman.

1428
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 2: Matt Taylor is the voice of the Colts. I think

1429
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 2: he's still here a corralum and we'll talk to him next.

1430
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 2: It is in fact, Tequila Day, National Tequila Day, apparently

1431
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 2: big news of the day. And I'm not drinking tequila.

1432
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 2: It's bottled water that looks like it's in a tequila bottle.

1433
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 2: But I can even show you it says artists and

1434
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 2: water right there. I didn't like put it, you know,

1435
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 2: Quervo in there, just but nonetheless important to stay hydrated

1436
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 2: on a hot day like today. Some of the big

1437
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 2: news items from the day. If you are just joining

1438
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 2: the show, thank you, Eddie. Stephanie White mentioned earlier that

1439
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:10,920
Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark there is no new update after getting various

1440
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 2: opinions on her injury, no update on her status. In

1441
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 2: addition to that, other news that is of note, Hulk

1442
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 2: Hogan passing away today, that news coming out, and that's

1443
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 2: obviously a big one within the American pop culture landscape,

1444
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 2: certainly of the eighties. I think his star really launched

1445
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 2: when he was Thunderlips in Rocky three in nineteen eighty two,

1446
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 2: and then, of course it goes without saying, when he

1447
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 2: beat the Iron Chic in professional wrestling, got the belt,

1448
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 2: and it became not just a wrestling star but a

1449
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 2: pop cultural icon in reality, television, politics, all of it

1450
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:47,959
Speaker 2: Hulk Hogan passing away. We are at Colts Camp Grand

1451
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 2: Park in Westfield. Practice number two is in the books.

1452
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 2: Matt Taylor is the radio voice that the Indianapolis Colts.

1453
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 2: Joins us here and Matt will begin simply with this,

1454
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 2: and that is we talked yesterday and practice number one

1455
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 2: of some of the things that we saw, things that

1456
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 2: jumped out at you today and practice number two.

1457
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think I think it's pretty clear that the

1458
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 13: defense is probably ahead of the offense. They certainly took

1459
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 13: advantage of the offense at times today, and that's to

1460
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 13: be expected because.

1461
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 11: You know, you're putting in a new scheme.

1462
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 13: Yes, but there's also a lot of continuity on that

1463
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 13: side of the ball. The offense is changing out the quarterbacks.

1464
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 13: You know, there's this switch up between Anthony Richardson and

1465
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 13: Daniel Jones. But it's pretty clear to me early on

1466
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 13: through two days that you can already start to see

1467
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 13: the defensive schematic change on that side of the ball.

1468
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 13: The secondary is sticky, a lot of press man to

1469
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 13: man and just to put it.

1470
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 11: Simply, Sharparius Ward is going to be really good.

1471
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 2: Can I actually ask you, Matt, and I apologize for

1472
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 2: this but in all honesty, when I'm going to do

1473
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 2: this for people that are listening that maybe you're not

1474
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 2: the every day, every moment NFL fans, which I think

1475
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 2: the vast majority p BLL are. Okay, but when you

1476
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 2: hear a defense that is quote press man the man

1477
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 2: versus say a cover two or a zone coverage, can

1478
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 2: you explain? You know, your wife's a teacher, right yep?

1479
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 2: Used to be what's that used to be? Yeah, well

1480
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:17,639
Speaker 2: before you became the voice of the calls. Let's be real.

1481
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 11: I mean she needed she needed to change.

1482
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 2: No, I understand, But but if you were to talk

1483
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 2: to her class and explain to them what you mean

1484
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 2: when you say press man and sticky you mean what?

1485
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 11: Well?

1486
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 13: The Colts have notorious the last couple of UH seasons

1487
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 13: under two different regimes defensively Matt Eberflus and Gus Bradley.

1488
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 13: They've been heavy zone defense. And what they're trying to

1489
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 13: do is make life more difficult for the opposing quarterback

1490
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 13: and to make those throwing lanes, decrease those and get

1491
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 13: more hands on the football. So by press man to man,

1492
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,599
Speaker 13: it's your your man up on. You know your you're

1493
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:58,839
Speaker 13: you're in charge of a guy instead of an area

1494
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 13: man on man, and you're up on them at the

1495
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 13: line of scrimmage, and you're trying to what we used

1496
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 13: to call when I played reroute a guy make you know,

1497
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 13: if they're trying to hit their spot in the secondary,

1498
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:13,680
Speaker 13: trying to get to a certain place to make their

1499
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 13: cut and make their break, you want to reroute them

1500
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 13: to throw off the timing of the play. So rules wise,

1501
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 13: you're allowed to be up on a guy within five

1502
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 13: yards in a line of scrimmage.

1503
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:25,879
Speaker 11: And guys are really good.

1504
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:29,640
Speaker 13: At that, like Charvarius Ward I think Juju Brins can

1505
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 13: really excel at that. Jalen Jones I think is getting

1506
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 13: better at that. But they just haven't done a lot

1507
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:36,440
Speaker 13: of that in recent past.

1508
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 2: Because instead what they were doing was doing area by committee,

1509
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 2: right of, Hey, I'm in charge of this square area

1510
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 2: and then as soon as guy goes out of it,

1511
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 2: then Matt comes over and he's in charge of that guy.

1512
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 1: Now.

1513
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 13: Yeah, a lot of zone coverage, a lot of Cover two,

1514
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 13: a lot of Cover three under Gus Bradley, some cover

1515
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 13: four as well. But to put it simply, they want

1516
01:09:56,240 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 13: to make life more difficult for the opposition because it's

1517
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 13: just been it's been frustrating.

1518
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 11: You and I have talked about this.

1519
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 13: The hallmarks of the defense the last couple of years

1520
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 13: have been the other team's best player offensively, primarily skill

1521
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 13: player wise at receiver have gone off against the Colts.

1522
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 13: You know, going in when you play the Texans, you

1523
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 13: got to stop Nico Collins. You know, when you play

1524
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 13: the Jaguars twice a year, you got to stop Brian

1525
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 13: Thomas Junior. And those guys are going over one hundred

1526
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 13: yards and they're scoring touchdowns and they're making big plays.

1527
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 13: So they want to be a little bit more games

1528
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 13: specific within this defense, and they want to play more

1529
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 13: press man. When you don't blitz as often as the

1530
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 13: Colts did not under Gus Bradley, and you sit back

1531
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 13: and you play zone defense behind it, it led to

1532
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:45,560
Speaker 13: the other team's quarterback completing right around seventy percent of

1533
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 13: their throws for the season. Just too many easy throws,

1534
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 13: too many ways to get into a rhythm and build

1535
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 13: timing and things like that throughout the course of the game.

1536
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:56,760
Speaker 13: So what they want to do is is get up

1537
01:10:56,800 --> 01:11:00,639
Speaker 13: on receivers take them away. In the case of charveyreus Ward,

1538
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 13: maybe he shadows a receiver and just completely follows that

1539
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 13: guy no matter where he's lining up formationally. But at

1540
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 13: the very least his addition takes away one half of

1541
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 13: the field in the secondary.

1542
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 2: What player defensively for the Colts Matt Taylor's voice of

1543
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 2: the Colts is our guest. Here we're at Grand Park

1544
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,680
Speaker 2: practice number two in the books for the Colts. They

1545
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 2: get back on the practice field tomorrow from ten until

1546
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:22,639
Speaker 2: roughly eleven fifteen.

1547
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 1: Is there a player that you look at.

1548
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:29,679
Speaker 2: Matt defensively in a zone system that was a really

1549
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 2: good player and now you have a big question mark

1550
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:35,759
Speaker 2: as to whether or not that transfers to them playing

1551
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 2: more into a man coverage.

1552
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 11: No, I don't really.

1553
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 13: I mean it's a really good question, but I don't

1554
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 13: think that, you know, the Colts had, for lack of

1555
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 13: a better term, like specific zone guys and then they

1556
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 13: have specific man demand guys.

1557
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 11: I do think bringing in.

1558
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 1: Do some defenses? Do you think do some franchises do

1559
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 1: it that way?

1560
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 11: I don't know.

1561
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 13: That's a good question, don't I don't think so. I

1562
01:11:57,439 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 13: think it's more of you know, this is so of

1563
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:03,639
Speaker 13: who we are. This is our scheme and we want

1564
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:05,640
Speaker 13: to be games specific, but we also don't want to

1565
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 13: just change everything that we do from an implementation standpoint

1566
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 13: within our scheme, if that makes sense. But I do

1567
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 13: know talking with the guys individually, they're really excited to

1568
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 13: be able to be a little bit more aggressive. Take

1569
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 13: things to the offense. Right, let's dictate terms to them

1570
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 13: instead of maybe the other way around. So, I mean

1571
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 13: I talked to Juju Brents in the offseason. He was

1572
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:32,759
Speaker 13: really excited, and he's perfect for this because he's long,

1573
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 13: he's got long arms, he's got adequate speed. I think

1574
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 13: he can really excel plan press Man War definitely can

1575
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 13: Jalen Jones can. I mean justin Wally based on what

1576
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 13: we've seen so far, he can excel doing no matter

1577
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 13: what scheme you have and no matter where you line

1578
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 13: them up positionally, because he can play outside, you can

1579
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:55,640
Speaker 13: play insight too. So I do think personnel wise, the

1580
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 13: Colts have the pieces in place to pull this off,

1581
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 13: and they also want to the Skies. Things in the

1582
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 13: secondary line up different places and kind of cloud that

1583
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 13: picture for the quarterback pre snap, just create a little

1584
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 13: bit of a shadow of a doubt.

1585
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 1: You know, That's what they did when you take any

1586
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 1: shadow we can get out.

1587
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 11: Here today we will, no question.

1588
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 13: But I mean that's that's what Cincinnati did when they

1589
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 13: were humming. You know, when they went to the AFC

1590
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 13: Championship Game two years in a row advance to the

1591
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 13: Super Bowl, they were able to beat Patrick Mahomes just

1592
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 13: by clouding that picture just enough pre snap at the

1593
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 13: line of scrimmage, by you know, rolling a different way

1594
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 13: or lining up a different spot, or bringing a guy

1595
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 13: or dropping a guy back. So they made it a

1596
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 13: big emphasis in the off season to bringing guys that

1597
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 13: can do that, that have experience, that are savvy, and

1598
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 13: they're more playmakers.

1599
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 2: Now, wait a minute, I'm curious. Here you have a

1600
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:50,720
Speaker 2: training camp. It says training camp official here credential. Yeah,

1601
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 2: it's at the Big Colts fancy landyard. Yeah, mine just

1602
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 2: says training camp media. Now, what's the difference. What makes

1603
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 2: you official in me?

1604
01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 1: Media?

1605
01:13:57,720 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 13: Well, I do know that's got me in the suite

1606
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 13: the other day, So maybe that's the difference. I was

1607
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:03,680
Speaker 13: able to walk up the stairs say how Yeah, I

1608
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 13: was able to say hi to your guy Mark James

1609
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 13: yesterday he was up with the suite.

1610
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 11: I don't know, he's got connection what's going on here?

1611
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 11: He was out there with a lance shive and I.

1612
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 1: Went to the Portland was locked.

1613
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 11: What's the difference?

1614
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 2: That's what we're solving all kinds of problems here, right,

1615
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 2: I'm official to go to the bathroom, and you're you're

1616
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 2: obviously getting the man press credential, and I'm trying to

1617
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 2: walk around here in his own right.

1618
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 1: You're, yeah, you're I'm old news.

1619
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 11: Yesterday's still a lot of grass around here.

1620
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:31,600
Speaker 6: You know.

1621
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm curious of this, and I don't know how

1622
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 2: to word this, so you tell me if this makes sense.

1623
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 1: I've thought a lot about this quarterback situation.

1624
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 2: And I think we know that the ceiling for Anthony

1625
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,759
Speaker 2: Richardson maybe is higher than the ceiling for Daniel Jones.

1626
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 2: Or maybe we have a better idea of the ceiling

1627
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:50,559
Speaker 2: of Daniel Jones, because he's been able to show that

1628
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 2: a little bit with New York before he came here.

1629
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 2: But even though I realized this is a legitimate open

1630
01:14:56,600 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 2: quarterback competition, it feels to me like Anniel Jones can't

1631
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 2: necessarily win the competition. It's rather he wins it only

1632
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 2: if Anthony Richardson loses. And does that make sense? Like,

1633
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 2: you defer to Jones as your fallback in case the

1634
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 2: guy that you have handed the keys to very early

1635
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 2: on and has all the tools doesn't take advantage of that.

1636
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 13: Yeah, I get what you're saying. You know, this to

1637
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 13: me all goes back to the whole idea of a

1638
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 13: quarterback competition. And they really announced this to the world

1639
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 13: at the Combine. And I remember being on radio row

1640
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 13: at the Combine and talking to national people, and there

1641
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 13: was a lot of people that we interviewed and had

1642
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 13: on our airwaves that were critical of this, like this

1643
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 13: whole concept of if anything, Anthony Richardson just needs more

1644
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 13: time on task.

1645
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 11: You know why he's.

1646
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:49,680
Speaker 13: Been injured and you know you've taken him off the

1647
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 13: field because of lack of preparation issues or just there's

1648
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:55,719
Speaker 13: a little bit of a disconnect in terms of getting

1649
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 13: ready for games, you know, Monday through Saturday, whatever they can.

1650
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 11: He's just missed a lot of time on the field.

1651
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 13: And some people were like, why bring in another quarterback

1652
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 13: to take valuable reps away from him in the spring

1653
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 13: and in training camp when all he does is need reps.

1654
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 13: He needs more experience. And I get that, I really do.

1655
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:21,759
Speaker 13: I think that's a fair argument. But on the other hand,

1656
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:24,480
Speaker 13: I agree with what the cults are doing in this situation.

1657
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:27,839
Speaker 13: In that listen, man, you've missed the playoffs four years.

1658
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 11: In a row.

1659
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:31,559
Speaker 13: It's time to go right. You haven't won a division

1660
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 13: since twenty fourteen. Every other team in your division's won

1661
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 13: at least twice, haven't won a playoff game since twenty eighteen. Like,

1662
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 13: there's a lot of urgency. And this is the NFL.

1663
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:44,719
Speaker 13: It stands for not for long and quite frankly, jobs

1664
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 13: are on the line. Everybody knows that. So what are

1665
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 13: you gonna do with Anthony Richardson? Are you just gonna

1666
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 13: hope that it works out or do you need to

1667
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:56,760
Speaker 13: have competition for him in order to push him to

1668
01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 13: become a better player, but also too to have an

1669
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 13: insurance package because he's missed you know, he's played less

1670
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 13: than half of his available starts available to him, I

1671
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:09,680
Speaker 13: should say, in his first two years, So you have

1672
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 13: to have Daniel Jones in here to compete and push him.

1673
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 13: But also if Richardson continues to get hurt, a guy

1674
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 13: that can play and has played at a high level

1675
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:21,599
Speaker 13: in Spurts so far in his NFL career.

1676
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 2: I want to ask you about a couple of guys

1677
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 2: that have jumped out so far in this camp, but

1678
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 2: we got to squeeze one in real quick.

1679
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:28,600
Speaker 1: Do you squeeze in a break real quick? Do you

1680
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 1: got time to stick around for fifteen more minutes?

1681
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:30,600
Speaker 11: Absolutely right?

1682
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 2: I want to talk to Matt Taylor about a couple

1683
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:33,599
Speaker 2: of guys that I think have jumped out a little

1684
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 2: bit here, and maybe some that we're waiting to jump start,

1685
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:37,760
Speaker 2: even though it's only been two practices. We'll do it

1686
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:40,719
Speaker 2: other side as we return to Grand Park, Colts Camp,

1687
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 2: day number two. Here quan company on the fan. It

1688
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:47,759
Speaker 2: is indeed great balls a fire out here. We should

1689
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:49,760
Speaker 2: probably play the whole Cogan theme at some point a

1690
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 2: couple of times too today in honor of Hull Cogan

1691
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 2: passing away. If you were just joining us, that news

1692
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 2: coming out just as we were going on today, Matt

1693
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 2: Taylor back.

1694
01:17:58,320 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 1: With us here.

1695
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:02,760
Speaker 2: We're at Colts Camp, Grand Park up in Westfield, day

1696
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:03,559
Speaker 2: number two in the books.

1697
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 1: All right, let me throw a couple of guys. You

1698
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:05,720
Speaker 1: tell me what jumped out?

1699
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 2: Okay from the get go, I mean from the very

1700
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 2: get go, and we interviewed him right, after the draft,

1701
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:13,559
Speaker 2: and I thought he was a fun interview. But Justin

1702
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 2: Wally appears to be a guy that, at least off field,

1703
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 2: Chris Ballard and the Colt Sprass are very high on yep.

1704
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 2: Has that translated to him getting opportunity here on field?

1705
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 1: Oh?

1706
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 13: Definitely with that question. No, Kenny Moore today. I don't

1707
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 13: know if it was a rest day or.

1708
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,680
Speaker 2: What, but Kenny Moore was one of four veterans that

1709
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 2: did a rest day. Those four that did not practice

1710
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:34,000
Speaker 2: day Diforest, Buckner, Taekwon Lewis, Kenny Moore, and Braden Smith.

1711
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 13: There you go, but it's pretty clear through two days.

1712
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 13: And then you couple this with what we saw in

1713
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 13: the spring. Justin Wally is he's made a really good

1714
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:44,879
Speaker 13: first impression. They trust him with a lot of stuff.

1715
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 13: Versatility wise, he's playing outside, he's playing inside, doesn't appear

1716
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 13: too big for him. And it's just a classic case

1717
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 13: of just be ready for anything and when opportunity comes,

1718
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 13: you have to seize it. And during the spring, Juju

1719
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 13: Brince was dealing with something minor, Jalen Jones was dealing

1720
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:05,559
Speaker 13: with something minor. Here comes Justin Wally and OTAs out

1721
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 13: there with the first team defense, he's you know, banging around,

1722
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 13: clanging around on Michael Pittman Junior gets his hands on

1723
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 13: the ball, it takes it away from Josh Downs in

1724
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 13: a drill back in the spring, and he just parlayed

1725
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:21,559
Speaker 13: that right into intermixing with the first team defense right

1726
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 13: away here at the beginning of training camp. And I

1727
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:27,000
Speaker 13: just go back to Draft night, you know, day two

1728
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 13: of the draft, Jake. I don't know if you subscribe to,

1729
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 13: you know, all the Draft Knicks stuff. I try to

1730
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:35,919
Speaker 13: read a lot, so nothing to me is total gospel.

1731
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 13: But depending on what you read on justin Wally, coming

1732
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 13: out of the draft, he was either going to be

1733
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:43,519
Speaker 13: a third round pick, a late day two guy, or

1734
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 13: he could be an early day three guy, or some

1735
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:48,600
Speaker 13: had him as like a round six, round seven. And

1736
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 13: the Colts were pretty honest with like, we don't really

1737
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 13: care what other people say. We were going to draft

1738
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:55,679
Speaker 13: him where we had him slotted, and we thought about

1739
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 13: taking him higher compared to where they did in the

1740
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 13: third round. And I'm pair of phrasing here, but Chris

1741
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 13: Ballard said, I couldn't stand the thought of losing this guy.

1742
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:07,559
Speaker 13: I don't think I could have slept draft night, missing

1743
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 13: out on a chance to draft Justin Wally. So they're

1744
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:12,679
Speaker 13: that high on him. So it's pretty clear right away

1745
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 13: that he's he's gonna have a role. Tyler Warren, you know,

1746
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:19,120
Speaker 13: Jim Bob Cooter said today, and I think it's pretty accurate,

1747
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:21,599
Speaker 13: Like once we get the pads on, you're gonna see

1748
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 13: Tyler Warren start to come alive a little bit. Not

1749
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 13: that he's not making an impact already, but you're gonna

1750
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:29,759
Speaker 13: see that physicality and that versatility really start to shine

1751
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 13: once you start putting the pads on and things ramp up.

1752
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 2: In terms of strike you more as a Dallas Clark

1753
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 2: across the middle end stride receiver or a Kobe Fleener

1754
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:41,839
Speaker 2: hybrid tight end that is more of a receiver.

1755
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 11: Yeah, definitely Dallas Clark. Yeah. I mean to me, he

1756
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 11: reminds me of a guy.

1757
01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:48,160
Speaker 13: You know, I said this when he was drafted because

1758
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:50,600
Speaker 13: just watching his film, and I'll be honest with you,

1759
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 13: I'll raise my hand like I didn't know who Tyler

1760
01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 13: Warren was this time last year, right, And I don't

1761
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 13: think a lot of people did either, because he was

1762
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:58,640
Speaker 13: behind some really good players at Penn State and just

1763
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 13: this past season, Like, I mean, who catches one hundred

1764
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:02,360
Speaker 13: passes as a tight end?

1765
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:04,799
Speaker 11: Like it just it's everywhere everywhere.

1766
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:07,680
Speaker 13: I mean, to me, my coming out party or my

1767
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 13: enlightenment on Tyler Warren was that USC game. I'm down

1768
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 13: in Tennessee getting ready to play the Titans. I'm in

1769
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:16,680
Speaker 13: a hotel in Nashville, just watching college football, and I

1770
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 13: see that USC game where he lines up at center

1771
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:20,840
Speaker 13: and they do the double pass and then he goes

1772
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 13: down the field and he catches that ball in the

1773
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 13: end zone with two linebackers draped on him.

1774
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 11: I'm like, who the hell is this guy?

1775
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 13: He's got like fourteen catches in this game or something ridiculous.

1776
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:34,800
Speaker 13: So yeah, I think he reminds me of a guy

1777
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 13: that could play in twenty twenty five or a guy

1778
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:40,480
Speaker 13: in nineteen seventy five. Like he's just that physically gifted.

1779
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 13: He doesn't shy away from contact, and he's just that

1780
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 13: athletic too.

1781
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 1: Okay. Daniel Jones.

1782
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 13: Daniel Jones, to me, he is looking like the Daniel

1783
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:52,599
Speaker 13: Jones who we saw back in OTAs. And the biggest

1784
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 13: compliment I can give to him is that he back

1785
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 13: in the spring did not look at all like a

1786
01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:00,879
Speaker 13: guy who's been here only since March. Really good command

1787
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 13: of the huddle, really good command of the playbook. And

1788
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:06,599
Speaker 13: we forget too that Daniel Jones twice in his career

1789
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:08,799
Speaker 13: has completed over sixty five percent of his passes.

1790
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 11: If you have that level of completion percentage on this team.

1791
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 13: Some of that's rhythm passing, right, Yeah, a lot of it,

1792
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:16,440
Speaker 13: to be fair, has been short intermediate.

1793
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 1: But but you kind of want that, right, But where

1794
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 1: did the colt struggle last year? Right? That's what I mean?

1795
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, so if they would have had his

1796
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 13: and I'm going to use this word and it's going

1797
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 13: to sound like I'm slighting him, but I don't really

1798
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 13: mean to at all. But if you would have had

1799
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 13: his efficiency and his competence last year, I think they

1800
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 13: win ten games.

1801
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 1: Okay lastly, and we got to do it quick.

1802
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 13: Anthony Richardson, Anthony, I think, you know quick today right

1803
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 13: through an interception today, So you know yesterday had some

1804
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 13: drops He's had you know, he suffered some drops by

1805
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 13: his receivers that didn't do him any favors because you know, Jake, me,

1806
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 13: everybody out here is keeping track of the completion present

1807
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 13: of course, the completions versus attempts.

1808
01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 11: So I mean, I think it's just listen, everybody's got

1809
01:22:59,120 --> 01:22:59,639
Speaker 11: a job to.

1810
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 13: Do, and you know, you got to get clicks, and

1811
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 13: there's there's so much content between now and the start.

1812
01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:06,680
Speaker 2: Doing a lot of that. Lately, Matt tells me you've

1813
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 2: become like almost like a tailor swift.

1814
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:10,160
Speaker 1: Ye, that's it. Yeah, and level of your you're an

1815
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 1: influencer now, right, But I.

1816
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 13: Just mean, you're not really gonna know until you start

1817
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 13: playing regular season games, even these preseason games, the picture

1818
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:19,640
Speaker 13: is going to be incomplete because you're not going up

1819
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 13: against the live defense, you're not making checks in the

1820
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 13: line of scrimmage one hundred percent of the time, things

1821
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:26,720
Speaker 13: like that. So I hate to say it, but you know,

1822
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:30,519
Speaker 13: we're not going to have a full picture on who

1823
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 13: these guys are and which guy wins the quarterback job

1824
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 13: and the sustainability of that until we start playing regular

1825
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 13: season games.

1826
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 1: Appreciate you sticking around late go.

1827
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 2: I'm sure with that new credential you've got there, you

1828
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:42,960
Speaker 2: can go up into the air conditioning switees now if

1829
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:43,639
Speaker 2: you'd like, right.

1830
01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:44,719
Speaker 11: I'll give you some more tequila.

1831
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:45,720
Speaker 1: That's right.

1832
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:48,720
Speaker 2: That's what tequila day, right, all right, Matt, I appreciate it, man,

1833
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:50,640
Speaker 2: my pleasure. Matt Taylor, Voice of the Colts. We'll go

1834
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 2: back and talk a little college football. We did it

1835
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:54,639
Speaker 2: yesterday with Indiana and Boiler Up. We'll talk a little

1836
01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 2: predue next. Back in the day, when I worked at

1837
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 2: the cigar store, Hardwick's Pipe and Tobacco, best job I've

1838
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 2: ever had. All apologies and respect to the one that

1839
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 2: I currently hold, but it was a great job. And

1840
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 2: on Friday nights, Gia Burns, whose younger sister Francy, was

1841
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:17,759
Speaker 2: a schoolmate of mine at North Central, but Gia Burns

1842
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:21,040
Speaker 2: did a jazz program on one of the local radio

1843
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:23,519
Speaker 2: stations that we would play that station in the store,

1844
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:26,680
Speaker 2: and every Friday night I would call it became kind

1845
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 2: of a running gag and request that song from Chuck Mangioni.

1846
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:34,760
Speaker 2: And news coming out today from his family confirming that

1847
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 2: eighty five year old Chuck Manngoni passed away on I

1848
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 2: believe Tuesday. But the announcement from the family coming today,

1849
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:44,639
Speaker 2: that is one of the great songs. Feels so good

1850
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:47,920
Speaker 2: from Chuck Mangioni. That reminds me of just like being

1851
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 2: hauled around in the back of my mom's car.

1852
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:52,599
Speaker 1: As a kid, and think of it every time.

1853
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 2: Puts you in a good place, So Chuck Man Joni

1854
01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 2: passing away though at the age of eighty five. Hulk

1855
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 2: Hogan also that announcement earlier today, passing away joining us

1856
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:05,639
Speaker 2: now on the program. We are at Grand Park in Westfield.

1857
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 2: You can hear they're actually mowing the field for colts camp.

1858
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:11,880
Speaker 2: Practice number two is in the books. But Big ten

1859
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 2: Media Day is taking place out in Las Vegas. The

1860
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 2: only place on Earth. Actually, I take that back. Even

1861
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas, if they come to Indianapolis, they would

1862
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:21,160
Speaker 2: find it hot. Right now, If we went to Vegas,

1863
01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:22,560
Speaker 2: I'd think, oh, that's great, so we turn on the

1864
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:25,600
Speaker 2: air conditioning. Tom Deenhart, our friend from Golden Black, is

1865
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 2: out there talking Purdue football.

1866
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 1: Tom.

1867
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you. You tell me if you

1868
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 2: agree or disagree with this statement. But I would assume

1869
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 2: that of all the years you have covered Purdue football,

1870
01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:38,200
Speaker 2: this one may be as enigmatic as any of them

1871
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 2: in trying to determine exactly what kind of team you've

1872
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 2: got that you're going to cover this year.

1873
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 12: Yeah, no idea. First of all, Jake, I want to say,

1874
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 12: I am still alive, thank gosh, and.

1875
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, sorry about that on the intro.

1876
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:54,760
Speaker 12: Right, you've got Ozzy Osbourne to my friend.

1877
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:57,960
Speaker 2: But Jamal Warner it's four now they use are coming

1878
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 2: threes now, it's four right, it's crazy.

1879
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:02,679
Speaker 12: But yeah, I've got no idea, Jake. I'd be lying

1880
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:04,640
Speaker 12: to you if I said I knew what was going

1881
01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 12: to happen this fall in West Laws and we had

1882
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:10,120
Speaker 12: over fifty portal transfers, of course, to all the freshmen year,

1883
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 12: I think seventy newcomers overall, So just a real roster

1884
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 12: undergone a lot of tumble. So yeah, how will the

1885
01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:22,799
Speaker 12: chemis you develop? Who knows who's going to be the quarterback?

1886
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:25,320
Speaker 12: Who knows? How will the schemes work? Who knows? On

1887
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:27,280
Speaker 12: top of all that, Jake, the schedule is all the

1888
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 12: difficult too.

1889
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:31,960
Speaker 1: Okay, So let's talk about the schedule itself.

1890
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 2: And I want to get into one area that I

1891
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:36,680
Speaker 2: think there is some familiarity for Purdue. But if you

1892
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 2: were to talk about the schedule itself, you know, it's

1893
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:43,200
Speaker 2: such a tradition Layden schedule, Like when you look, for example,

1894
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:45,759
Speaker 2: at the fact of Notre Dame being on the roster.

1895
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 1: I mean on the schedule. That's one of them that

1896
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:48,000
Speaker 1: you look.

1897
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:49,680
Speaker 2: At Notre Dame and you're like, Okay, you know you

1898
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 2: got to you got to keep that I realized, but

1899
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:55,200
Speaker 2: that is a daunting one. But it's just before that

1900
01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 2: as well, the fact that you sneak in usc when

1901
01:26:57,360 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 2: you're in conference play and you start start out with

1902
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 2: ball Stateton Illinois, and then you got to go at Michigan,

1903
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 2: you got to go at Washington, You've got.

1904
01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:05,840
Speaker 1: Ohio State at home.

1905
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:07,680
Speaker 2: It's going to be really tough, is it not for

1906
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:09,719
Speaker 2: even Barry Odam to get an idea who they are?

1907
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 12: Yeah, plus in Indiana and Illinois are now still in

1908
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 12: the top twenty five, top fifteen teams in the country

1909
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:18,439
Speaker 12: as well. So lots of heavy lifting. Like you said,

1910
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 12: just a tall order for for Barry Oldham in year one.

1911
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:25,720
Speaker 12: He's confident, Jake. We talked to him just moments ago,

1912
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 12: sort of off stage. He goes on stage. You're eleven

1913
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:31,519
Speaker 12: forty five Pacific time on the big stage, the big dais.

1914
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:34,840
Speaker 12: But we talked to him again and he talked about

1915
01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 12: that non conference schedule a little bit. No plans for

1916
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:40,720
Speaker 12: for you to alter its non conference schedule based for

1917
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:43,840
Speaker 12: the foreseeable future. Who knows what college football will look

1918
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:46,080
Speaker 12: like for the next two years anyway, but he knows

1919
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 12: what he's up against. But you know, Barry Older, he

1920
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:50,679
Speaker 12: talked to him. You know, he's ready to embrace those

1921
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 12: challenges and he knows there are many. And I think

1922
01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 12: he was on Indianapolis Radio too and talked about the

1923
01:27:56,880 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 12: quarterback situation as well. That's going to be very interesting

1924
01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:03,600
Speaker 12: to see how it sorts out with Ryan Brown and

1925
01:28:03,640 --> 01:28:07,640
Speaker 12: Malachi Singleton, of course, mean the two primary contendents for

1926
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:09,840
Speaker 12: that job, and Jake I think when a push comes

1927
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 12: to shove, Ryan Brown is going to be your guy.

1928
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:17,080
Speaker 2: When you look at Purdue, Tom Tom Dear Tom Deanhard

1929
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 2: our guest from Golden Black.

1930
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 1: We're talking about Purdue. He's out.

1931
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 2: Tom is at Big Ten media days out in Las Vegas,

1932
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 2: the convenient locale for the Big Ten of Las Vegas.

1933
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 2: When you look at the roster, the one thing that

1934
01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:31,760
Speaker 2: jumps out of me, you know, Devin Mockabee has been

1935
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:35,120
Speaker 2: a really, really good player and just a solid guy

1936
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 2: that I think can get you yards and you consult

1937
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:41,600
Speaker 2: clock with him, and I think that because there's familiarity

1938
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:44,640
Speaker 2: there maybe that's what you really ride because you know

1939
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:46,639
Speaker 2: what he can do in the Big Ten. But can

1940
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:49,639
Speaker 2: you win in today's Big ten with that kind of a.

1941
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 12: Style going be tough, you know, just like the NFL

1942
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:56,519
Speaker 12: is going to pass in the college football is the same,

1943
01:28:56,600 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 12: and you're gonna need that balance and you're gonna have

1944
01:28:59,920 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 12: to have that ability to throw that ball down field.

1945
01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 12: You know, Barry Otam knows that you got to stretch

1946
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:06,599
Speaker 12: defense and you got to take your shots down field.

1947
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:11,799
Speaker 12: The receiving cores last year really underperformed, not left speed,

1948
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 12: and I think Barry thinks they've added enough speed to

1949
01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:18,640
Speaker 12: really make defenses respect the receivers and have to have

1950
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 12: to maybe not sit on routes as much and play

1951
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 12: as much his own coverage. So yeah, we'll see if

1952
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:27,960
Speaker 12: if odin Kin can make that pass, the game, you know,

1953
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 12: come to life, because like you said, Jake, it's awfully

1954
01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:32,240
Speaker 12: hard to win the ball playing three yards in a

1955
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:34,960
Speaker 12: cloud of dusk. Barry wants to punch, and he knows

1956
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:37,000
Speaker 12: he wants to be physical, wants to be tough, but

1957
01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:39,040
Speaker 12: he knows he's gonna have to throw the ball over

1958
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:42,439
Speaker 12: the top and have those big chunk plays and those

1959
01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 12: big plays that get your touchdowns as well.

1960
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:47,680
Speaker 1: You know, Odam is a guy. I really like what

1961
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 1: he did at UNLV.

1962
01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:51,200
Speaker 2: I've got a cousin, Tom, and you know you can

1963
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:53,120
Speaker 2: write this article, right Jake Querry said that.

1964
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:54,720
Speaker 1: His cousin says, but but.

1965
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:56,240
Speaker 2: I've got a cousin that lives out in Vegas and

1966
01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:59,479
Speaker 2: it's actually a huge supporter of ULV football and it's

1967
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:01,760
Speaker 2: you know, season ticket holder, and he loves him. I mean,

1968
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:03,559
Speaker 2: he said, look, they are going to be a better

1969
01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:06,080
Speaker 2: football team. It might not be right away, but he

1970
01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:10,040
Speaker 2: liked just the overall aside from scheme, Tom, I think

1971
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:13,800
Speaker 2: Kurtz Signetty was able to do this with Indiana. I

1972
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:15,920
Speaker 2: thought what Indiana did last year not to turn a

1973
01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:18,680
Speaker 2: Purdue talking to Indiana, I get the danger there, but

1974
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:21,720
Speaker 2: to make the parallel, the first year coach Indiana a

1975
01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:25,840
Speaker 2: year ago started winning games because the plays that they

1976
01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 2: used to air, they then were forcing other teams to

1977
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:31,840
Speaker 2: make errors, and Indiana was taking advantage of it and

1978
01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:35,720
Speaker 2: they were out disciplining people. And I think that if

1979
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:38,880
Speaker 2: you look at UNLV, that's what his teams when he

1980
01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:42,160
Speaker 2: turned them around. I think that's what my cousin was

1981
01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:43,920
Speaker 2: saying that he really liked about him is they were

1982
01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:45,519
Speaker 2: a disciplined football team.

1983
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:48,240
Speaker 1: Now, with that said, what.

1984
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:52,479
Speaker 2: Things or personalities or characteristics about Barry Odom have you

1985
01:30:52,720 --> 01:30:55,960
Speaker 2: noticed that might give some glimpse as to what will

1986
01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:57,639
Speaker 2: carry over to his football team.

1987
01:30:58,120 --> 01:31:02,080
Speaker 12: I think are smart and tough mantra, and uh, you

1988
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:05,000
Speaker 12: talked about those things. But the discipline. I think that

1989
01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:09,120
Speaker 12: discipline was lacking a lot last year. A lot of penalties,

1990
01:31:09,120 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 12: a lot of sloppy playing. Attention to detail and what

1991
01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:14,840
Speaker 12: your cousin saw at UNLB last year, what was a

1992
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:18,639
Speaker 12: team that was buttoned up right? Uh? The big key

1993
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:20,880
Speaker 12: not just in football, but in any of these fourt

1994
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:24,760
Speaker 12: is you know, just don't beat yourself, you know, limit

1995
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:27,960
Speaker 12: your mistakes and and and force other mistakes and hope

1996
01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 12: and hope that other team makes some airrors that are costly.

1997
01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:33,160
Speaker 12: So I think just the way Bury on and carries

1998
01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:35,720
Speaker 12: himself and the little bits we've seen in practice, it's

1999
01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 12: it's sort of hard for us to tell. But you know, again,

2000
01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:41,000
Speaker 12: a team that's gonna be have have that attention to

2001
01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:44,840
Speaker 12: detail and uh, that's going to be key. I think

2002
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:46,800
Speaker 12: it's gonna be a tough year. I think Vegas out

2003
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:49,320
Speaker 12: here as pretty three and a half as far as

2004
01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:53,320
Speaker 12: over under win total, So maybe three and nine, maybe

2005
01:31:53,360 --> 01:31:55,840
Speaker 12: four and eight if you really want to be generous. So,

2006
01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:58,679
Speaker 12: but but more than anything, just to be competitive, don't

2007
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:02,080
Speaker 12: get embarrassed trying jakeson sixty six to nothing, sixty six

2008
01:32:02,120 --> 01:32:05,439
Speaker 12: to seven, fifty two to six. It often became an

2009
01:32:05,439 --> 01:32:08,080
Speaker 12: abomination on Sally's and became very hard to watch for

2010
01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:09,759
Speaker 12: Purdue fans.

2011
01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:12,160
Speaker 2: You know, the tom I want to go back to

2012
01:32:12,200 --> 01:32:14,880
Speaker 2: something you mentioned earlier, and I know that you know,

2013
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:19,320
Speaker 2: for all of us, it's it's unchartered territory. But when

2014
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:22,200
Speaker 2: I look at if you look at a weather map,

2015
01:32:22,240 --> 01:32:25,000
Speaker 2: when there is you know, a hurricane forming out in

2016
01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:27,760
Speaker 2: the Gulf and you can see these little storms that

2017
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:30,000
Speaker 2: are kind of spiraling off of it, right and it's

2018
01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:33,599
Speaker 2: creating havoc and a number of different islands, it feels

2019
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:35,599
Speaker 2: a little bit like still that's the era that we're

2020
01:32:35,640 --> 01:32:39,160
Speaker 2: in with Nil and I understand that the NCAA is

2021
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:41,439
Speaker 2: trying to corral it and they're trying to you know,

2022
01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:45,720
Speaker 2: create sandbags, and everybody is trying to figure out just

2023
01:32:45,800 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 2: exactly what to do there. And I don't know that

2024
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:51,760
Speaker 2: we're there yet, And it feels to me like you

2025
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:54,400
Speaker 2: have all of these little storms that are spiraling off

2026
01:32:54,439 --> 01:32:58,479
Speaker 2: of these decisions now, of the initial decision of NIL

2027
01:32:58,560 --> 01:33:00,920
Speaker 2: and what it was supposed to be, and then the

2028
01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:04,519
Speaker 2: reality of what it really is, and the transparency of Okay, fine,

2029
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 2: let's just take all the rules off of it. Where

2030
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:10,080
Speaker 2: do you think, Tom, we are headed with all of

2031
01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:13,439
Speaker 2: this and when will we begin to know that those

2032
01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:16,639
Speaker 2: little storms have now calmed down and we have one

2033
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:17,639
Speaker 2: big one to deal with?

2034
01:33:18,640 --> 01:33:19,000
Speaker 1: Well?

2035
01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:21,280
Speaker 12: I think you know right now we have that with

2036
01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:25,760
Speaker 12: the CSC that's using Deloitte to sort of vet all

2037
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:28,960
Speaker 12: the NIL deals. Anything over six hundred dollars has to

2038
01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:32,200
Speaker 12: be vetted and approved, and that process that has begun.

2039
01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:34,559
Speaker 12: I guess a lot of deals have been rejected. I

2040
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:37,439
Speaker 12: guess for me it's going to be when people start

2041
01:33:37,439 --> 01:33:40,759
Speaker 12: to challenge some of those rejections and the lawyers start

2042
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:44,040
Speaker 12: getting involved and the courts start get involved. I guess

2043
01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:46,080
Speaker 12: I still find it hard to believe that anybody can

2044
01:33:46,120 --> 01:33:48,280
Speaker 12: tell anybody else how they want to spend their money.

2045
01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:51,400
Speaker 12: You know, who's to tell me how much I want

2046
01:33:51,439 --> 01:33:54,120
Speaker 12: to pay somebody to cut my grass? If I want

2047
01:33:54,160 --> 01:33:56,200
Speaker 12: to pay ja query one thousand dollars to cut my

2048
01:33:56,280 --> 01:33:59,120
Speaker 12: grass every time I can pay them one thousand dollars. Right,

2049
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:02,200
Speaker 12: Who was to say what's the going rate for anything?

2050
01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:05,960
Speaker 12: So those types of things I think, and I guess

2051
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:07,519
Speaker 12: I'll believe it when I see it. I think at

2052
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:09,479
Speaker 12: some point lawyers are going to get involved, courts can

2053
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:13,160
Speaker 12: get involved, and you're not going to tell anybody how

2054
01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:16,200
Speaker 12: they can spend their money. So we've just started with

2055
01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:19,240
Speaker 12: this clearing house. We'll see how we go, and maybe

2056
01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:22,160
Speaker 12: another year before we get a real clear picture on

2057
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:26,800
Speaker 12: how effective it is and how the NIO picture looks moving.

2058
01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:29,840
Speaker 2: Forward, Tom, you ain't sniffing my toro for at least

2059
01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:32,000
Speaker 2: fifteen hundred til we at least get into fifteen hundred,

2060
01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:33,320
Speaker 2: Just so you know, you know what I mean.

2061
01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:36,040
Speaker 12: I mean, I know it's a nice moment. That's why

2062
01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:36,960
Speaker 12: I said, grant.

2063
01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:39,400
Speaker 1: That's why I got to pay it off, right.

2064
01:34:40,439 --> 01:34:43,760
Speaker 2: You know the other thing too, that and I like

2065
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:46,080
Speaker 2: this aspect of what I'm about to say, But it

2066
01:34:46,120 --> 01:34:49,960
Speaker 2: is unusual. Can you imagine going back fifteen years ago

2067
01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:53,439
Speaker 2: or so and predicting to yourself that you would be

2068
01:34:53,479 --> 01:34:56,760
Speaker 2: at Big ten Media Day in Las Vegas Nevada so

2069
01:34:56,800 --> 01:34:58,559
Speaker 2: that you can get there in time to talk to

2070
01:34:58,600 --> 01:34:59,840
Speaker 2: the head coach for UCLA.

2071
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:03,760
Speaker 12: Right, I know, it's it's out of the bizarro world.

2072
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:06,160
Speaker 12: I mentioned that to somebody the other day. I went

2073
01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:09,439
Speaker 12: back in nineteen eighty five to see where the big

2074
01:35:09,479 --> 01:35:11,880
Speaker 12: ten what has to come in the last forty years? Right,

2075
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:16,360
Speaker 12: ten teams to eighteen teams. Now it's coast to coast

2076
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:21,280
Speaker 12: media day in Las Vegas. It's just insane. And where

2077
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:23,680
Speaker 12: are we going? You know that that's the fascinating thing.

2078
01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:26,760
Speaker 12: Where's college football going? And that that's a debate for

2079
01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:30,040
Speaker 12: another day. But you're right. I embraced the change in

2080
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:33,840
Speaker 12: a bold new world and for new fans certainly opens

2081
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:36,960
Speaker 12: a bolt in the world again. After that one and

2082
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:40,040
Speaker 12: eleven abominations.

2083
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:42,000
Speaker 2: Well, I think about last year. For example, I went

2084
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:44,200
Speaker 2: to Tom Deanhard as our guest Golden Black. We're talking

2085
01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:46,680
Speaker 2: about Bret football, just a big ten in general. A

2086
01:35:46,760 --> 01:35:51,719
Speaker 2: year ago I went to the game where burdw hosted Oregon.

2087
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:55,120
Speaker 2: I love Ross a night, Tom, I just do. I

2088
01:35:55,160 --> 01:35:57,960
Speaker 2: think it's a great atmosphere. I love the fans up there.

2089
01:35:57,960 --> 01:35:59,200
Speaker 2: It was it was a lot of fun. We had

2090
01:35:59,200 --> 01:36:00,840
Speaker 2: a lot of fun. By going and go to that game.

2091
01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:03,960
Speaker 2: But it was shortly after that game where I read

2092
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:07,760
Speaker 2: an article somewhere where Oregon had made comment about the

2093
01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:11,160
Speaker 2: amount of travel they have to do. We think that like,

2094
01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:13,400
Speaker 2: it's just you load sixty guys onto a plane and

2095
01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:15,479
Speaker 2: you fly out play a football game. But when you

2096
01:36:15,560 --> 01:36:19,200
Speaker 2: consider the support staff, the equipment, all of the things

2097
01:36:19,240 --> 01:36:21,400
Speaker 2: that go into it, you start chartering more than just

2098
01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:23,639
Speaker 2: one plane, it's two, three, you know, whatever, it may be, right,

2099
01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:28,439
Speaker 2: and that all of those expenses. I then started reading

2100
01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:30,559
Speaker 2: articles that some of the schools were like, wait a minute,

2101
01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:33,439
Speaker 2: this might have been a bigger financial endeavor than we

2102
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:36,760
Speaker 2: had anticipated, and that is going to impact some of

2103
01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:41,160
Speaker 2: the certainly less funded sports. Do you think we are

2104
01:36:41,200 --> 01:36:43,120
Speaker 2: still there in the terms of I'm not going to

2105
01:36:43,160 --> 01:36:47,000
Speaker 2: say buy a remorse of Big ten expansion, but is

2106
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:49,880
Speaker 2: there still a financial aspect of this that is being

2107
01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:50,840
Speaker 2: second guest?

2108
01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:53,920
Speaker 12: This probably still has to be evaluate. Last thing I

2109
01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:58,000
Speaker 12: guess one year in the book Show to Speak. I'm

2110
01:36:58,040 --> 01:37:00,080
Speaker 12: not sure what the books look like those West Go

2111
01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:03,680
Speaker 12: schools in particular, but I think maybe maybe reduce you

2112
01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:06,559
Speaker 12: some alteration when it comes to non revenue sports. Right

2113
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:09,960
Speaker 12: as far as the travel goes and these are these

2114
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:14,200
Speaker 12: travels are just limited to the men's basketball and the

2115
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:17,760
Speaker 12: women's basketball, and you get jobs in football. So I

2116
01:37:17,800 --> 01:37:20,639
Speaker 12: don't know, we'll see where it goes. If the belts

2117
01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:24,800
Speaker 12: have to be tightened. I'm sure that looked at. Had

2118
01:37:24,840 --> 01:37:26,960
Speaker 12: the expenses of that. I've been huge for these schools

2119
01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:29,479
Speaker 12: to fly all of these teams criss crossed in the

2120
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:34,599
Speaker 12: country multiple times. It's not cheap to stay places, fly place,

2121
01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:35,840
Speaker 12: and you got to feed them too.

2122
01:37:37,439 --> 01:37:39,840
Speaker 2: Ryan Brown is a fascinating story, right, because if I'm

2123
01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:43,880
Speaker 2: not mistaken in this, correct me if I'm wrong, Boilermaker

2124
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:45,280
Speaker 2: wanted to be a tar heel back to being a

2125
01:37:45,320 --> 01:37:46,240
Speaker 2: boiler Maker, is that right?

2126
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:47,639
Speaker 1: I understanding this correct?

2127
01:37:48,120 --> 01:37:49,719
Speaker 12: You got it correct as it correct?

2128
01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:50,719
Speaker 1: Okay.

2129
01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:53,320
Speaker 2: And then with that, you know, I guess because you

2130
01:37:53,400 --> 01:37:55,280
Speaker 2: do have a new coach, you get kind of a

2131
01:37:55,280 --> 01:37:57,960
Speaker 2: fresh start. There is the and I'm talking about the

2132
01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:01,320
Speaker 2: quarterback position. By the way, is it his job to lose?

2133
01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:04,000
Speaker 12: I think it is about it that I think he's

2134
01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:06,559
Speaker 12: brought in for a reason, right, Jake. I mean, the

2135
01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:08,879
Speaker 12: quarterbacks that we're here in the spring did not impressed.

2136
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:12,840
Speaker 12: It's pretty obvious to anybody he watched you know, A. J.

2137
01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:16,719
Speaker 12: Colson's already left. Malachi Singaphant is still here as well.

2138
01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:21,519
Speaker 12: And in that quarterback from Washington State his name Escapes

2139
01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:24,479
Speaker 12: and Evans Chuba's still here too. None of them really

2140
01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:27,120
Speaker 12: impressed at all. And that's why they went out and

2141
01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:29,519
Speaker 12: got you know, Ryan Wild and brought him back so

2142
01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:31,240
Speaker 12: to speak. You know, he left the sword after he

2143
01:38:31,240 --> 01:38:33,720
Speaker 12: would have got here we could spring the football. But

2144
01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:37,040
Speaker 12: Bill Belichick out there in Chapol Hill, he came back

2145
01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:39,519
Speaker 12: because again, I think pretty realized they need to help

2146
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:41,960
Speaker 12: the quarterback. I think Ryan browns the fifth for what

2147
01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:44,559
Speaker 12: Barry Ontam wants to do. He can throw it and

2148
01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:47,040
Speaker 12: he can run it. He wants a dual threat quarterback,

2149
01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:48,880
Speaker 12: a guy can pull the ball down and run it

2150
01:38:48,920 --> 01:38:50,799
Speaker 12: if need be, a guy who can extend the plays

2151
01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:53,160
Speaker 12: with his feet. And you know what Ryan Brown is

2152
01:38:53,200 --> 01:38:56,000
Speaker 12: the charismatic guys, He's he's a leader, He's a guy

2153
01:38:56,080 --> 01:38:58,840
Speaker 12: on his teammates like a lot. So I do think

2154
01:38:58,880 --> 01:39:01,439
Speaker 12: it's his job to love. Will we see a little

2155
01:39:01,439 --> 01:39:05,479
Speaker 12: bit of Malachi Singleton. I guess we'll see how things

2156
01:39:05,479 --> 01:39:07,840
Speaker 12: go with Ryan Brown, but I think for now, you know,

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01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:10,080
Speaker 12: he's the guy that's going to be understanding the QB

2158
01:39:10,160 --> 01:39:13,000
Speaker 12: one if you will, and if they can get Malachi

2159
01:39:13,200 --> 01:39:15,080
Speaker 12: some time, they will just to get him from seasoning.

2160
01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:17,240
Speaker 12: But again, I think it's going to be, you know,

2161
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:20,679
Speaker 12: do or die with Ryan Brown come started the twenty

2162
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:21,960
Speaker 12: twenty five season.

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01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:24,080
Speaker 1: Last the time before we let you go.

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01:39:24,160 --> 01:39:26,439
Speaker 2: Since you're out there and you were watching, you know,

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01:39:26,520 --> 01:39:29,400
Speaker 2: just Big ten Media Day in general, with everybody in

2166
01:39:29,479 --> 01:39:34,720
Speaker 2: Las Vegas not talking about Purdue, what were the storylines

2167
01:39:34,760 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 2: that jumped out at you? Whether there was you know,

2168
01:39:36,479 --> 01:39:37,920
Speaker 2: a year ago, I guess you would say it was

2169
01:39:37,960 --> 01:39:39,960
Speaker 2: Signetti coming out and that's where he made some of

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01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:42,680
Speaker 2: his proclamations that caught everybody on their ear. Did we

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01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:45,160
Speaker 2: have any of that this year or what seemed to

2172
01:39:45,200 --> 01:39:49,880
Speaker 2: be even amongst the media contingency, the overwhelming storylines or

2173
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:52,599
Speaker 2: themes that you'll take away of twenty twenty five Big

2174
01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:53,360
Speaker 2: ten Media.

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Speaker 12: Day, Well, I think it's Kurt Signetti right with the

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01:39:56,040 --> 01:39:58,639
Speaker 12: comment about how they're trying to schedule like an SEC school.

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Speaker 1: YEP, I think a.

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Speaker 12: Lot of people plotted that. I think he's accurate, and

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01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:05,640
Speaker 12: I think you and l Player with got agenda and

2180
01:40:05,680 --> 01:40:08,760
Speaker 12: he delivered and did a great job delivering it. So

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01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:11,840
Speaker 12: that's private minute thing. I would think, I believe that

2182
01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:15,800
Speaker 12: it's really created almost bus thus far through these three days.

2183
01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:18,880
Speaker 12: Is that rant? And you know they dropped Virginia to really,

2184
01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:23,760
Speaker 12: like you said, go to SEC schedule and you can't

2185
01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:24,280
Speaker 12: look at.

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01:40:24,120 --> 01:40:28,120
Speaker 2: Me, Tom by my SEC schedule we talked about yesterday.

2187
01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:31,519
Speaker 2: But basically what he means is, listen, if if I've

2188
01:40:31,560 --> 01:40:33,160
Speaker 2: got a load up on what people are going to

2189
01:40:33,240 --> 01:40:36,519
Speaker 2: call cupcakes in the pre conference, I'm not worried about

2190
01:40:36,520 --> 01:40:38,479
Speaker 2: it because I get enough meat of the sandwich at

2191
01:40:38,479 --> 01:40:41,559
Speaker 2: the conference itself, so I might as well get myself

2192
01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:43,800
Speaker 2: to a point where I'm getting wins and then I

2193
01:40:43,880 --> 01:40:46,080
Speaker 2: get my quality wins within the conference. Why in the

2194
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:47,720
Speaker 2: world do I need to go out of conference to

2195
01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:50,080
Speaker 2: collect quality wins when I've got to be You're the

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01:40:50,080 --> 01:40:52,439
Speaker 2: case of Purdue USC and Notre Dame in Illinois and

2197
01:40:52,439 --> 01:40:54,720
Speaker 2: Indiana and Ohio State Michigan on the schedule, right, I

2198
01:40:54,760 --> 01:41:00,160
Speaker 2: mean in Washington. That basically paraphrases what he said, right exactly.

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Speaker 12: Why Well said that, That's exactly what Kurt said. And

2200
01:41:03,880 --> 01:41:05,760
Speaker 12: they don't remember who you beat the name, they remember

2201
01:41:05,800 --> 01:41:09,479
Speaker 12: how many wins you had right, and you look back

2202
01:41:09,479 --> 01:41:11,559
Speaker 12: at all the way you talk about great teams, joways talking

2203
01:41:11,560 --> 01:41:13,280
Speaker 12: about anyway twelve and oh they want eleven and one.

2204
01:41:13,640 --> 01:41:16,519
Speaker 12: You'll go back and dissect who they beat. So you're right,

2205
01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:19,839
Speaker 12: you have plenty of opportunity for impressive wins within conference play.

2206
01:41:20,200 --> 01:41:22,920
Speaker 12: Why bang your head against the wall and play rigorous

2207
01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:24,120
Speaker 12: non conference schedule too?

2208
01:41:24,720 --> 01:41:27,400
Speaker 2: And you think that was a sentiment that it the

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01:41:27,439 --> 01:41:29,320
Speaker 2: reason I find that, And I'm glad I asked Tom

2210
01:41:29,640 --> 01:41:33,439
Speaker 2: because I would have been under the assumption that other

2211
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:35,920
Speaker 2: Big Ten coaches would have looked at Signetti and saying

2212
01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:37,960
Speaker 2: that and been like, here goes Kurt Signetti again, like

2213
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:41,400
Speaker 2: come on, man, But but you believe that Actually what

2214
01:41:41,439 --> 01:41:45,080
Speaker 2: he was saying this time was kind of saying out loud,

2215
01:41:45,120 --> 01:41:47,360
Speaker 2: but everybody's thinking, is that a fair way of saying it?

2216
01:41:47,800 --> 01:41:47,920
Speaker 9: Oh?

2217
01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:50,120
Speaker 12: Yeah, the big can circles without a doubt. I think

2218
01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:52,519
Speaker 12: they want the SEC. They had that extra conference game

2219
01:41:53,240 --> 01:41:56,519
Speaker 12: just so there's more similarities between these two conferences and

2220
01:41:56,600 --> 01:41:59,320
Speaker 12: how there's seasons that are constructing. So yeah, I think

2221
01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:01,320
Speaker 12: if you got this coaches in the room privately, they

2222
01:42:01,320 --> 01:42:04,080
Speaker 12: always say, yeah, we we love what Kurtzy mean.

2223
01:42:04,160 --> 01:42:04,759
Speaker 1: He said.

2224
01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:08,920
Speaker 2: Tom, I appreciate the time. We look forward to talking

2225
01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:11,439
Speaker 2: to you. Everything getting underway for Purdue. I'm looking at

2226
01:42:11,439 --> 01:42:13,760
Speaker 2: the schedule right here August thirtieth with Paul State, then

2227
01:42:13,760 --> 01:42:15,640
Speaker 2: a week after that at Southern Illinois, and then it

2228
01:42:15,640 --> 01:42:18,960
Speaker 2: gets real because you got USC followed up by Notre Dame,

2229
01:42:19,120 --> 01:42:21,880
Speaker 2: so there is absolutely no rest for the Boilers once

2230
01:42:21,920 --> 01:42:25,519
Speaker 2: they're going. Tom Deanhart Golden Black joining us here on

2231
01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:26,280
Speaker 2: the program.

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Speaker 1: Tom appreciated safe travels back.

2233
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:30,440
Speaker 12: All right, thank you, Jake, be good buddy.

2234
01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:32,640
Speaker 2: And you might actually find Tom that it's going to

2235
01:42:32,680 --> 01:42:34,240
Speaker 2: be a quick fight if you're going with the tailwind

2236
01:42:34,240 --> 01:42:36,040
Speaker 2: that has come across Westfield here, because it is a

2237
01:42:36,040 --> 01:42:37,599
Speaker 2: little bit windy here, which is quite the.

2238
01:42:37,520 --> 01:42:40,320
Speaker 1: Reprief because it is very very warm.

2239
01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:44,280
Speaker 2: And one of the things that is in fact wisping

2240
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Speaker 2: across Westfield here in terms of Colts camp and day

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01:42:47,640 --> 01:42:51,200
Speaker 2: and practice number two is that of which what was

2242
01:42:51,240 --> 01:42:55,680
Speaker 2: said earlier today at the start of this program. For

2243
01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:58,320
Speaker 2: a glimpse behind the curtain, if you will. For those

2244
01:42:58,360 --> 01:42:59,960
Speaker 2: of you who listen to the show, which I appreciate,

2245
01:43:00,200 --> 01:43:03,439
Speaker 2: or listened to the Morning Show with Kevin Bowen and

2246
01:43:03,640 --> 01:43:05,960
Speaker 2: James Boyd who've been out here or listening to JMV later.

2247
01:43:06,320 --> 01:43:08,200
Speaker 2: This is the time of year where the Colts and

2248
01:43:08,280 --> 01:43:11,840
Speaker 2: their staff and we are appreciative of it, make available

2249
01:43:11,880 --> 01:43:14,439
Speaker 2: to us players for sit down interviews to do for

2250
01:43:14,680 --> 01:43:17,640
Speaker 2: our show. And obviously that comes within the window of

2251
01:43:17,680 --> 01:43:21,200
Speaker 2: time that the players are done with practice or getting

2252
01:43:21,240 --> 01:43:24,439
Speaker 2: ready for something else that they may have to do here,

2253
01:43:24,960 --> 01:43:27,559
Speaker 2: film sessions, et cetera. So you kind of work on

2254
01:43:27,560 --> 01:43:32,000
Speaker 2: the Colts schedule understandably for today. That schedule meant just

2255
01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:34,720
Speaker 2: before we went on the air, So I conducted an

2256
01:43:34,760 --> 01:43:38,240
Speaker 2: interview with Bernard Yman, who is in his fourth year.

2257
01:43:38,320 --> 01:43:40,360
Speaker 2: He is entering year number four as a left tackle

2258
01:43:40,360 --> 01:43:42,920
Speaker 2: for the Colts and his story is a fascinating one.

2259
01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:46,320
Speaker 2: He grew up in Vienna, Austria. He began playing football

2260
01:43:46,400 --> 01:43:49,760
Speaker 2: as a young team when he did basically like an

2261
01:43:49,760 --> 01:43:53,920
Speaker 2: American Football introduction type camp, fell in love with the game,

2262
01:43:54,000 --> 01:43:58,360
Speaker 2: started playing it, moved to or went to Central Michigan

2263
01:43:58,360 --> 01:44:01,160
Speaker 2: because he is, you know, six seven and three, got

2264
01:44:01,160 --> 01:44:03,720
Speaker 2: an opportunity to play football at Central Michigan at the

2265
01:44:03,760 --> 01:44:07,360
Speaker 2: tight end position. After his second year of college football

2266
01:44:07,400 --> 01:44:10,880
Speaker 2: at Central Michigan in the MAC, he changed switched to

2267
01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:15,040
Speaker 2: offensive linemen, and the Colts drafted him kind of on

2268
01:44:15,960 --> 01:44:17,840
Speaker 2: a bit of blind faith, on the fact that he

2269
01:44:17,840 --> 01:44:21,480
Speaker 2: could develop into their left tackle to replace Anthony Costanzo

2270
01:44:21,960 --> 01:44:25,040
Speaker 2: who had retired, and in fact Ryman has done that.

2271
01:44:25,160 --> 01:44:28,880
Speaker 2: His first outing was not a good one. He struggled early,

2272
01:44:29,680 --> 01:44:33,360
Speaker 2: but he has turned into and developed into a very

2273
01:44:33,439 --> 01:44:36,760
Speaker 2: good player and a solid left tackle and you would

2274
01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:38,960
Speaker 2: say probably in the upper third of left tackles in

2275
01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:41,680
Speaker 2: the National Football League. Now with that, he is in

2276
01:44:41,760 --> 01:44:44,320
Speaker 2: a contract year, so at the end of the year

2277
01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:46,439
Speaker 2: he becomes if he so chooses, a guy that could

2278
01:44:46,479 --> 01:44:48,559
Speaker 2: talk to other teams, it becomes a free agent, can

2279
01:44:48,640 --> 01:44:50,800
Speaker 2: go out there and see what is out there. There

2280
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:52,519
Speaker 2: are a number of ways the Colts can avoid that

2281
01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:56,639
Speaker 2: franchise tag being won, et cetera. But a year ago

2282
01:44:56,920 --> 01:44:59,640
Speaker 2: we learned this from Chris Ballard. Chris Ballard had a

2283
01:44:59,720 --> 01:45:02,240
Speaker 2: year ago Ryan Kelly that was in a contract situation,

2284
01:45:02,640 --> 01:45:04,920
Speaker 2: and Chris Ballard made it very clear at the start

2285
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:07,599
Speaker 2: of camp. I remember Ryan Kelly showing up for camp

2286
01:45:07,640 --> 01:45:10,439
Speaker 2: and saying when he showed up, yeah, the Colts made

2287
01:45:10,479 --> 01:45:12,640
Speaker 2: it clear to me that they are not interested in

2288
01:45:12,680 --> 01:45:14,840
Speaker 2: resigning me right now, and they want to have that

2289
01:45:14,920 --> 01:45:18,839
Speaker 2: conversation at the end of the year, and that became,

2290
01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:21,280
Speaker 2: you know, obviously a talking point. And then we became

2291
01:45:21,680 --> 01:45:23,519
Speaker 2: aware of the fact that the Colts decided to go

2292
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:26,559
Speaker 2: in another direction and Tanner Bordolini is the guy that

2293
01:45:26,640 --> 01:45:28,400
Speaker 2: it looks like is going to be the starting center

2294
01:45:28,439 --> 01:45:29,400
Speaker 2: should he stay healthy.

2295
01:45:29,720 --> 01:45:30,799
Speaker 1: That's who has taken.

2296
01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:34,720
Speaker 2: The reps in practices so far for the Colts. So

2297
01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:37,800
Speaker 2: with all of that said, Bernard Ryman enters into a

2298
01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:41,639
Speaker 2: year where most projections say that he is going to

2299
01:45:41,760 --> 01:45:45,120
Speaker 2: or has earned the right to ask for some twenty

2300
01:45:45,120 --> 01:45:47,400
Speaker 2: to twenty one million dollars a year as a left tackle.

2301
01:45:47,479 --> 01:45:50,639
Speaker 2: Left tackles do not grow on trees. Sure everybody has one,

2302
01:45:50,680 --> 01:45:53,240
Speaker 2: doesn't mean everybody has a good one, and the Colts,

2303
01:45:53,360 --> 01:45:55,040
Speaker 2: it looks like, have a good one and one that

2304
01:45:55,240 --> 01:45:57,200
Speaker 2: is going to be here for quite some time to

2305
01:45:57,280 --> 01:46:00,719
Speaker 2: protect whatever quarterback they may go with, whether it's Dany Richardson,

2306
01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:05,920
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones, whether they completely start anew in that contract situation.

2307
01:46:06,120 --> 01:46:09,160
Speaker 2: Earlier today, just before we went on the air, I

2308
01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:12,559
Speaker 2: was interviewing Bernard Ryman for this show. I asked him

2309
01:46:12,600 --> 01:46:17,840
Speaker 2: specifically about his contract status, totally expecting and preparing for

2310
01:46:18,320 --> 01:46:21,280
Speaker 2: the Status Co answer. The Status Co answer, of course,

2311
01:46:21,320 --> 01:46:24,320
Speaker 2: would be, well, you know, those things will play out

2312
01:46:24,360 --> 01:46:27,800
Speaker 2: when they do. And what he said, I thought to myself,

2313
01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:32,479
Speaker 2: I think that's newsworthy, I think, and I've done this

2314
01:46:32,520 --> 01:46:34,280
Speaker 2: for a while, so I can tell sometimes when a

2315
01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:36,639
Speaker 2: guy says something and I think to myself, I need

2316
01:46:36,680 --> 01:46:39,120
Speaker 2: to earmark that, I need to benchmark that. I think

2317
01:46:39,280 --> 01:46:43,680
Speaker 2: that is something that is going to create and generate conversation.

2318
01:46:43,880 --> 01:46:46,760
Speaker 2: And I was surprised with his answer, and I think

2319
01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:50,400
Speaker 2: others were surprised by his answer, and we will play

2320
01:46:50,479 --> 01:46:53,719
Speaker 2: for you his answer when we come back to Grand

2321
01:46:53,720 --> 01:46:55,960
Speaker 2: Park and Westfield Colts Camp day number two here on

2322
01:46:56,000 --> 01:47:02,280
Speaker 2: the fan. It is hard to think of somebody from

2323
01:47:02,439 --> 01:47:07,000
Speaker 2: a sports standpoint. I mean, obviously Michael Jordan, you know

2324
01:47:07,040 --> 01:47:10,280
Speaker 2: they're a number, but if you look at people who

2325
01:47:10,320 --> 01:47:13,000
Speaker 2: were able to come seemingly almost out of nowhere.

2326
01:47:13,360 --> 01:47:15,040
Speaker 1: And we're going to get to the Bernard Ryman stuff

2327
01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:15,840
Speaker 1: here in just a second.

2328
01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:19,160
Speaker 2: But at the time that I was interviewing Bernard Ryman,

2329
01:47:19,200 --> 01:47:21,400
Speaker 2: it was very shortly after that where I learned of

2330
01:47:21,439 --> 01:47:25,400
Speaker 2: the passing of Hulk Hogan. And admittedly I was not

2331
01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:28,559
Speaker 2: a huge fan of professional wrestling when I was a kid.

2332
01:47:28,560 --> 01:47:33,920
Speaker 2: Now that you know, it's interesting when when pro wrestling

2333
01:47:34,120 --> 01:47:36,400
Speaker 2: first kind of hit the scene, at least in the

2334
01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:38,960
Speaker 2: world that I lived in, meaning the era that I

2335
01:47:39,000 --> 01:47:41,519
Speaker 2: lived in. I think for a lot of people, their

2336
01:47:41,560 --> 01:47:46,320
Speaker 2: introduction to professional wrestling was strictly Georgia Championship Wrestling, which

2337
01:47:46,360 --> 01:47:51,439
Speaker 2: aired on Superstation TBS, and back before you had all

2338
01:47:51,520 --> 01:47:54,320
Speaker 2: kinds of cable options, you had Superstation TBS which would

2339
01:47:54,360 --> 01:47:58,400
Speaker 2: air Georgia Championship Wrestling and the Atlanta Braves, and then

2340
01:47:59,000 --> 01:48:03,719
Speaker 2: Starcade and a couple of other bad game shows. Starcade

2341
01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:05,759
Speaker 2: was pretty awesome. It was so bad. It was based

2342
01:48:05,800 --> 01:48:08,800
Speaker 2: on people that would come and play video games against

2343
01:48:08,840 --> 01:48:10,800
Speaker 2: one another. I'll never forget the time I was watching it.

2344
01:48:10,800 --> 01:48:13,080
Speaker 2: There was like a nine year old kid. They were

2345
01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:15,559
Speaker 2: playing Cubert, I think, and the guy that the nine

2346
01:48:15,640 --> 01:48:17,479
Speaker 2: year old was going up against was like forty two

2347
01:48:17,560 --> 01:48:22,280
Speaker 2: years old. Like, what are we watching here? But Superstation

2348
01:48:22,400 --> 01:48:24,360
Speaker 2: TBS with kids Beat with Audo Lye and all that.

2349
01:48:24,360 --> 01:48:27,519
Speaker 2: You would see Georgia Championship Wrestling. And then around that time,

2350
01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:32,559
Speaker 2: Rocky three came out, and in Rocky three, Rocky Balboa

2351
01:48:32,640 --> 01:48:38,280
Speaker 2: fictionally goes up for a fundraising match against Thunderlips as

2352
01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:41,240
Speaker 2: he was known, and I just remember being like, who

2353
01:48:41,439 --> 01:48:44,360
Speaker 2: is this guy? You know, he had obviously the twenty

2354
01:48:44,360 --> 01:48:47,160
Speaker 2: four inch python arms and you know, ripped the shirt

2355
01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:50,200
Speaker 2: and the whole deal. And that was the introduction to

2356
01:48:50,479 --> 01:48:52,920
Speaker 2: many of us in the world of the character that

2357
01:48:52,960 --> 01:48:55,599
Speaker 2: would become known as hul Kogan. And then of course

2358
01:48:55,760 --> 01:48:59,679
Speaker 2: in World Championship Wrestling I believe then it was known

2359
01:48:59,720 --> 01:49:03,960
Speaker 2: and obviously ww F and the WWE and everything that

2360
01:49:04,000 --> 01:49:06,439
Speaker 2: you know it today. But when he won the belt

2361
01:49:06,479 --> 01:49:08,840
Speaker 2: against the Iron Chic, I don't remember that as well.

2362
01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:13,679
Speaker 2: I just know that Hulk Hogan himself became a pop

2363
01:49:13,720 --> 01:49:17,120
Speaker 2: cultural icon and somebody that you did not have to,

2364
01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:20,280
Speaker 2: like myself, be a fan of wrestling to know exactly

2365
01:49:20,320 --> 01:49:23,519
Speaker 2: who and what he was. Then you went into the

2366
01:49:23,560 --> 01:49:26,519
Speaker 2: reality show with about his daughter and his son, and

2367
01:49:26,600 --> 01:49:29,400
Speaker 2: you got a look at him, not unlike Ozzie Osbourne,

2368
01:49:29,680 --> 01:49:32,840
Speaker 2: very similar to Ozzy Osbourne in the fact that the

2369
01:49:33,040 --> 01:49:36,120
Speaker 2: reality show gave you more a glimpse of the person

2370
01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:40,479
Speaker 2: versus the character that they were portraying. Obviously, Hulk Hogan

2371
01:49:40,520 --> 01:49:44,840
Speaker 2: then lately, in his later years became a very you know,

2372
01:49:44,960 --> 01:49:48,240
Speaker 2: central figure within politics and et cetera. But Hulk Hogan

2373
01:49:48,320 --> 01:49:51,760
Speaker 2: passing away of cardiac arrest. It was announced when the

2374
01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:55,439
Speaker 2: I believe, I would say Panela's county, but basically Tampa

2375
01:49:55,479 --> 01:49:59,160
Speaker 2: area police were brought to his home for an assistance

2376
01:49:59,240 --> 01:50:02,120
Speaker 2: call and it was cardiac arrest that it was discovered

2377
01:50:02,160 --> 01:50:03,320
Speaker 2: for Hulk Hogan.

2378
01:50:03,400 --> 01:50:05,479
Speaker 1: The cause of death as it's being reported.

2379
01:50:06,200 --> 01:50:09,280
Speaker 2: Also, Chuck Mangioni we mentioned passing away his family announcing

2380
01:50:09,320 --> 01:50:12,920
Speaker 2: that today from he passed away two days ago. But

2381
01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:15,679
Speaker 2: let's get back into the Colts conversation with Bernard Ryman.

2382
01:50:16,080 --> 01:50:18,479
Speaker 2: So Bernard Ryman, who has been a really good player,

2383
01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:21,720
Speaker 2: and again I think it is just one of those positions,

2384
01:50:22,439 --> 01:50:26,559
Speaker 2: and I'm talking about the left tackle position that is

2385
01:50:26,680 --> 01:50:30,360
Speaker 2: kind of a thankless position because oftentimes you don't notice

2386
01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:33,759
Speaker 2: the left tackle until you need to notice the left tackle,

2387
01:50:33,960 --> 01:50:36,320
Speaker 2: and you don't address left tackle until you need to

2388
01:50:36,320 --> 01:50:39,720
Speaker 2: address left tackle. And this franchise, on this market and

2389
01:50:39,760 --> 01:50:43,840
Speaker 2: this media group, myself included, have probably been spoiled by

2390
01:50:43,840 --> 01:50:48,759
Speaker 2: the left tackle position. Because Tarak Glenn was really, really good,

2391
01:50:48,920 --> 01:50:52,559
Speaker 2: I mean really good. At no point in Tarak Glenn's

2392
01:50:52,560 --> 01:50:55,920
Speaker 2: playing career for the Colts was he anything outside of

2393
01:50:55,960 --> 01:50:59,800
Speaker 2: say a top probably five to ten left tackle. I

2394
01:51:00,160 --> 01:51:03,439
Speaker 2: know that the running joke in Indianapolis became by a

2395
01:51:03,479 --> 01:51:06,839
Speaker 2: lot of people. Oh, another false start for Tarak Glenn.

2396
01:51:07,360 --> 01:51:10,000
Speaker 2: But do you realize the fleet of foot nature you

2397
01:51:10,080 --> 01:51:13,479
Speaker 2: need to have to get false starts when you are

2398
01:51:13,520 --> 01:51:17,040
Speaker 2: that size of man, which Tarak Glenn is and was.

2399
01:51:17,760 --> 01:51:21,800
Speaker 2: And when Tarak Glenn surprisingly retired with a year left

2400
01:51:21,800 --> 01:51:25,400
Speaker 2: on his deal, if I'm not mistaken, I remember the

2401
01:51:25,400 --> 01:51:29,880
Speaker 2: Colts drafting Anthony Costanzo, and Costanzo when he first got

2402
01:51:29,920 --> 01:51:34,680
Speaker 2: here was just kind of this big goofy, you know,

2403
01:51:34,720 --> 01:51:39,360
Speaker 2: he had his hair, was shaved head, et cetera. And

2404
01:51:40,040 --> 01:51:44,479
Speaker 2: Anthony Costanzo worked tirelessly at perfecting being a left tackle

2405
01:51:45,040 --> 01:51:48,920
Speaker 2: and he became a obviously an elite level left tackle.

2406
01:51:49,280 --> 01:51:52,160
Speaker 2: And then you get Bernard Ryman, who, as I talked about,

2407
01:51:52,200 --> 01:51:54,479
Speaker 2: was somebody that had to learn the position in college,

2408
01:51:55,479 --> 01:51:57,320
Speaker 2: got drafted. There was a little bit of a wing

2409
01:51:57,360 --> 01:51:58,880
Speaker 2: and a prayer I think by the Colts, but they

2410
01:51:59,080 --> 01:52:01,599
Speaker 2: fell in love with this side. And credit to Chris Ballard.

2411
01:52:02,280 --> 01:52:05,320
Speaker 2: Credit Chris Ballard because when he took Bernard Ryman, there

2412
01:52:05,320 --> 01:52:06,920
Speaker 2: were a lot of people that wondered whether or not

2413
01:52:06,960 --> 01:52:10,719
Speaker 2: that was a reach pick, and he clearly saw something

2414
01:52:10,760 --> 01:52:13,240
Speaker 2: in him that now whoever would have guessed here heading

2415
01:52:13,240 --> 01:52:16,240
Speaker 2: into year number four that Bernard Ryman and his contractual

2416
01:52:16,280 --> 01:52:19,840
Speaker 2: status would be a storyline at Colts Camp. But I

2417
01:52:19,880 --> 01:52:22,200
Speaker 2: think it is a storyline, and it may be more

2418
01:52:22,240 --> 01:52:24,960
Speaker 2: a storyline because when I talked to him this morning

2419
01:52:25,680 --> 01:52:27,720
Speaker 2: and he sat down, I thought, Okay, I'm going to

2420
01:52:27,760 --> 01:52:30,280
Speaker 2: ask him about his contract, and then I went back

2421
01:52:30,280 --> 01:52:33,480
Speaker 2: to what I was talking about yesterday, which is sometimes

2422
01:52:33,520 --> 01:52:36,400
Speaker 2: we just assume a player wants to be here, and

2423
01:52:36,439 --> 01:52:38,200
Speaker 2: it's like, well, obviously he's gonna want to resign.

2424
01:52:38,040 --> 01:52:38,559
Speaker 1: Here, and you need to think.

2425
01:52:38,600 --> 01:52:40,240
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, though, But I mean, just because a

2426
01:52:40,240 --> 01:52:42,599
Speaker 2: guy's played here. If you look at Ryman, he's played

2427
01:52:42,640 --> 01:52:45,000
Speaker 2: for different head coaches, he's played for with different quarterbacks,

2428
01:52:45,040 --> 01:52:47,479
Speaker 2: he's played with different centers. You know, he may say,

2429
01:52:47,479 --> 01:52:49,800
Speaker 2: you know what, I want stability somewhere. I want to

2430
01:52:49,840 --> 01:52:53,120
Speaker 2: go compete somewhere. So I did ask him the question

2431
01:52:53,200 --> 01:52:55,080
Speaker 2: of is this where you want to be? And I

2432
01:52:55,080 --> 01:52:58,599
Speaker 2: think he misunderstood that, but then he said something later

2433
01:52:58,680 --> 01:53:01,200
Speaker 2: that there was no misunderstanding. Here's how the first part

2434
01:53:01,240 --> 01:53:02,400
Speaker 2: of it sounded with Bernard Ryman.

2435
01:53:02,720 --> 01:53:07,240
Speaker 8: Oh absolutely, yes, yes, I mean, obviously we love it here,

2436
01:53:07,760 --> 01:53:11,040
Speaker 8: would love to get things done, but I'm not involved

2437
01:53:11,040 --> 01:53:11,240
Speaker 8: in this.

2438
01:53:11,280 --> 01:53:13,400
Speaker 6: Obviously, you have an agent that takes care of this.

2439
01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:17,080
Speaker 8: From my understanding, there's they aren't on the same page

2440
01:53:17,680 --> 01:53:21,400
Speaker 8: about things. So you say they're not on the same

2441
01:53:21,439 --> 01:53:24,120
Speaker 8: page as of right now and not exactly the same

2442
01:53:24,120 --> 01:53:26,639
Speaker 8: page right now. So but I mean, as I said,

2443
01:53:26,640 --> 01:53:28,640
Speaker 8: for me as a football player, I'm preparing for the

2444
01:53:28,680 --> 01:53:29,880
Speaker 8: season because that's what matters.

2445
01:53:30,760 --> 01:53:33,680
Speaker 2: Okay now, So I began that by saying, is this

2446
01:53:33,720 --> 01:53:35,559
Speaker 2: where you want to be? And he said Initially he

2447
01:53:35,600 --> 01:53:38,080
Speaker 2: said no, And that's where I asked for the clarification.

2448
01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:39,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, no, no, I don't mean he said no

2449
01:53:39,720 --> 01:53:41,280
Speaker 2: because I want to be in the super Bowl. And

2450
01:53:41,320 --> 01:53:42,920
Speaker 2: I said no, no, I don't mean like where you are

2451
01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:45,680
Speaker 2: as a team production wise, I mean, is this the

2452
01:53:45,800 --> 01:53:47,320
Speaker 2: franchise you want to be with? And that was the

2453
01:53:47,360 --> 01:53:49,640
Speaker 2: answer you just heard. Then when he said we are

2454
01:53:49,640 --> 01:53:52,920
Speaker 2: not on the same page, I wanted him to clarify

2455
01:53:53,040 --> 01:53:56,240
Speaker 2: by that, did he mean, for example, in the situation

2456
01:53:56,320 --> 01:53:59,080
Speaker 2: with Ryan Kelly, where not on the same page like

2457
01:53:59,120 --> 01:54:01,280
Speaker 2: the Colts just didn't want to have that discussion yet

2458
01:54:01,880 --> 01:54:04,880
Speaker 2: or not on the same page in terms of the

2459
01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:06,880
Speaker 2: perceived value, here's Bernard Ryman.

2460
01:54:07,080 --> 01:54:10,880
Speaker 8: From my understanding is that the numbers don't always quite

2461
01:54:10,880 --> 01:54:13,679
Speaker 8: add up yet. You know, the way they might value

2462
01:54:13,720 --> 01:54:18,240
Speaker 8: a position differently than my team thinks it is.

2463
01:54:18,680 --> 01:54:19,760
Speaker 6: You know, we're working.

2464
01:54:22,640 --> 01:54:26,200
Speaker 2: The value of my position from where the team thinks

2465
01:54:26,240 --> 01:54:28,640
Speaker 2: it is, from where I and I'm paraphrasing where he

2466
01:54:28,680 --> 01:54:34,400
Speaker 2: thinks it is. Now this is to me. I noticed

2467
01:54:34,400 --> 01:54:38,160
Speaker 2: that he said the numbers are not there yet. Maybe

2468
01:54:38,200 --> 01:54:41,800
Speaker 2: that means that Bernard Ryman is just in the exploratory

2469
01:54:41,880 --> 01:54:46,040
Speaker 2: phase of this discussion. Maybe it means that Bernard Ryman's

2470
01:54:46,040 --> 01:54:47,840
Speaker 2: agent has said it's fine.

2471
01:54:48,440 --> 01:54:49,720
Speaker 1: They've already assured me it'll be.

2472
01:54:49,640 --> 01:54:52,000
Speaker 2: Fine, And one would assume that it's going to be

2473
01:54:52,040 --> 01:54:58,120
Speaker 2: fine because there is no waiting in the wings replacement

2474
01:54:58,200 --> 01:55:01,040
Speaker 2: for Bernard Ryman. That's a position that theoretically the Colts

2475
01:55:01,120 --> 01:55:03,680
Speaker 2: know they've got taken care of for a while and

2476
01:55:03,760 --> 01:55:05,120
Speaker 2: they don't have to look elsewhere.

2477
01:55:05,160 --> 01:55:06,480
Speaker 1: But you've got to get them locked in.

2478
01:55:07,200 --> 01:55:09,920
Speaker 2: Then you consider the money they have already invested to

2479
01:55:10,560 --> 01:55:13,960
Speaker 2: Quentin Nelson, and you wonder if in fact they are

2480
01:55:14,040 --> 01:55:15,960
Speaker 2: there's a little bit of a Miles Turner factor there.

2481
01:55:16,040 --> 01:55:19,840
Speaker 2: Right of some other teammate come in and Bernard Ryman

2482
01:55:20,000 --> 01:55:21,400
Speaker 2: may say, Okay, I'm good.

2483
01:55:21,920 --> 01:55:23,040
Speaker 1: You waited too long.

2484
01:55:24,320 --> 01:55:29,320
Speaker 2: From the Colts standpoint, so I think, I think this

2485
01:55:29,440 --> 01:55:31,120
Speaker 2: is still something that they're.

2486
01:55:30,880 --> 01:55:31,680
Speaker 1: Going to work out.

2487
01:55:31,720 --> 01:55:38,840
Speaker 2: However, however, when he says yet, it's something where they're

2488
01:55:38,880 --> 01:55:41,960
Speaker 2: not on the same page yet, that's Bernard Ryman, I think,

2489
01:55:42,000 --> 01:55:44,040
Speaker 2: assuming that they're going to be on the same page.

2490
01:55:44,400 --> 01:55:47,760
Speaker 2: But it also is really good gamesmanship from Bernard Ryman there,

2491
01:55:49,120 --> 01:55:51,760
Speaker 2: because right there, Bernard Ryman just planted the seed of

2492
01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:55,400
Speaker 2: they may not find me as valuable as what my

2493
01:55:55,480 --> 01:55:59,040
Speaker 2: position is. And if you start to plant that seed,

2494
01:56:00,120 --> 01:56:02,720
Speaker 2: then what you're doing is you are potentially sending out

2495
01:56:03,200 --> 01:56:06,120
Speaker 2: the test balloon. You're sending out the flair to the

2496
01:56:06,160 --> 01:56:08,800
Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons, the Tampa Bay Bucks, to New Orleans Saints,

2497
01:56:08,880 --> 01:56:11,760
Speaker 2: the LA Chargers, the Denver Broncos, the Seattle Seahawks, the

2498
01:56:11,760 --> 01:56:14,680
Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings, the New York Jets, one of those franchises.

2499
01:56:14,840 --> 01:56:17,200
Speaker 2: You're sending it out there to them where they're saying,

2500
01:56:17,560 --> 01:56:19,320
Speaker 2: get his agent on the phone, because we know his

2501
01:56:19,440 --> 01:56:22,440
Speaker 2: value and let's make him feel valued.

2502
01:56:22,520 --> 01:56:22,800
Speaker 1: Here.

2503
01:56:24,080 --> 01:56:27,280
Speaker 2: I think he feels valued here. I think he likes

2504
01:56:27,320 --> 01:56:29,960
Speaker 2: it here. I think he knows he's going to be

2505
01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:34,080
Speaker 2: long term here. But it's in his best interest in

2506
01:56:34,200 --> 01:56:37,960
Speaker 2: making it known that he doesn't feel that way right now.

2507
01:56:39,520 --> 01:56:42,840
Speaker 2: Show me with the money how much you value me?

2508
01:56:43,480 --> 01:56:47,240
Speaker 2: And until then I don't feel valued. I think it's smart,

2509
01:56:47,360 --> 01:56:48,720
Speaker 2: but I think it's something to keep an eye on

2510
01:56:48,760 --> 01:56:52,120
Speaker 2: because he is a very very important piece. And in addition,

2511
01:56:52,280 --> 01:56:54,440
Speaker 2: I think personally and it's not my job to sit

2512
01:56:54,480 --> 01:56:56,760
Speaker 2: here and tell Chris Ballard how to do his but.

2513
01:56:58,800 --> 01:57:00,200
Speaker 1: We do do that from time to time.

2514
01:57:00,040 --> 01:57:02,920
Speaker 2: I think it's smart for them to lock him in

2515
01:57:02,960 --> 01:57:06,480
Speaker 2: now because the more Bernard Ryman plays one of two

2516
01:57:06,520 --> 01:57:09,800
Speaker 2: things from here forward. For this season, in terms of

2517
01:57:09,840 --> 01:57:12,600
Speaker 2: the value of Bernard Ryman, it goes one of two ways.

2518
01:57:12,920 --> 01:57:17,640
Speaker 2: One is he plays, continues to play well and increases

2519
01:57:17,680 --> 01:57:21,400
Speaker 2: his price tag no win for the Colts there, or

2520
01:57:21,440 --> 01:57:25,800
Speaker 2: the other is he plays gets hurt. Sure you don't

2521
01:57:25,800 --> 01:57:28,320
Speaker 2: have him locked in, but now you're right back to

2522
01:57:28,360 --> 01:57:31,960
Speaker 2: square one. Anyway, I think it's in their best interest

2523
01:57:32,000 --> 01:57:34,120
Speaker 2: to get it done as soon as they can, and

2524
01:57:34,160 --> 01:57:36,240
Speaker 2: I think it's in Bernard Ryman's best interest to do

2525
01:57:36,320 --> 01:57:40,240
Speaker 2: exactly what he did, and that is plant that little

2526
01:57:40,240 --> 01:57:41,840
Speaker 2: seed to up that price.

2527
01:57:42,440 --> 01:57:44,160
Speaker 1: We'll come back, we'll put a tie on all of it.

2528
01:57:44,200 --> 01:57:46,280
Speaker 2: We'll hand it off to John next Colts Camp day

2529
01:57:46,360 --> 01:57:51,640
Speaker 2: number two. Here Aquarying Company on the fan. Well, I

2530
01:57:51,640 --> 01:57:55,240
Speaker 2: guess that means I'm good until about mid August. This

2531
01:57:55,280 --> 01:57:58,720
Speaker 2: will be stuck in the head. Mo from Northwest Ohio

2532
01:57:59,440 --> 01:58:01,080
Speaker 2: sent me a bay I said yesterday, said he got

2533
01:58:01,160 --> 01:58:03,880
Speaker 2: until Tuesday before he started playing this song in his

2534
01:58:03,880 --> 01:58:07,000
Speaker 2: head or finished playing this song in his head. So

2535
01:58:07,120 --> 01:58:12,040
Speaker 2: NIC's going Eddie. Sorry walking five hundred miles. You know

2536
01:58:12,120 --> 01:58:14,760
Speaker 2: my winter summer challenge. I say it every year in

2537
01:58:14,760 --> 01:58:15,360
Speaker 2: the wintertime.

2538
01:58:15,560 --> 01:58:16,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm well aware of it.

2539
01:58:17,560 --> 01:58:19,360
Speaker 2: Okay, I said, in the winter time when it was

2540
01:58:19,400 --> 01:58:21,520
Speaker 2: It wasn't long ago. During the polar vortext war was

2541
01:58:21,560 --> 01:58:24,480
Speaker 2: freezing outside, and I said, okay, either.

2542
01:58:24,320 --> 01:58:26,000
Speaker 1: The coldest day of the year or the hottest day

2543
01:58:26,000 --> 01:58:27,240
Speaker 1: of the year. You pick one of those two.

2544
01:58:27,640 --> 01:58:31,080
Speaker 2: You gotta walk five miles, two laps around the Indianapolis

2545
01:58:31,120 --> 01:58:34,880
Speaker 2: Motor Speedway five miles and you can either do it

2546
01:58:34,920 --> 01:58:37,080
Speaker 2: on the coldest day of the year or the hottest

2547
01:58:37,120 --> 01:58:40,440
Speaker 2: day of the year. But you have to dress in

2548
01:58:40,520 --> 01:58:43,320
Speaker 2: the exact outdoor clothing you would be wearing on the

2549
01:58:43,360 --> 01:58:48,640
Speaker 2: opposite day. And it's interesting because during the winter time,

2550
01:58:48,680 --> 01:58:51,400
Speaker 2: when I ask it, everybody says, oh, the summer, for sure.

2551
01:58:51,440 --> 01:58:54,360
Speaker 2: I mean I can handle the summer. The winter, though

2552
01:58:54,400 --> 01:58:56,120
Speaker 2: it's freezing outside, There's no way I could do it.

2553
01:58:57,360 --> 01:58:58,720
Speaker 2: I think right now, if you tried to do it,

2554
01:58:58,760 --> 01:59:01,040
Speaker 2: you'd be If you put on right now winter gear

2555
01:59:01,080 --> 01:59:01,600
Speaker 2: and tried.

2556
01:59:01,480 --> 01:59:04,040
Speaker 1: To do it, it would be there.

2557
01:59:04,080 --> 01:59:06,560
Speaker 2: I don't think you'd make it because and keep in mind,

2558
01:59:07,000 --> 01:59:10,080
Speaker 2: the track temperature is going to be double what the

2559
01:59:10,120 --> 01:59:13,160
Speaker 2: air temperature is. It would be there's no way you'd

2560
01:59:13,160 --> 01:59:16,800
Speaker 2: make it. It's very warm outside. Please stay hydrated. Okay,

2561
01:59:17,800 --> 01:59:27,440
Speaker 2: what's that? Okay, okay, okay, that's about what we'd be

2562
01:59:27,480 --> 01:59:30,080
Speaker 2: going through your head during the delirium when the heat

2563
01:59:30,080 --> 01:59:34,320
Speaker 2: exhaustion set in, right just before you went down.

2564
01:59:34,920 --> 01:59:35,280
Speaker 1: Okay.

2565
01:59:35,320 --> 01:59:38,760
Speaker 2: Pacers news to report, Fever news to report, Colt's news

2566
01:59:38,760 --> 01:59:41,600
Speaker 2: to report. We will begin with the Pacers and Riek Freeman.

2567
01:59:41,840 --> 01:59:45,280
Speaker 2: The Pacers opted out of his contract his two way contract.

2568
01:59:45,880 --> 01:59:49,160
Speaker 2: He is now an unrestricted free agent, and Taylor Peter,

2569
01:59:49,440 --> 01:59:51,960
Speaker 2: their draft pick, has now gotten a two way deal

2570
01:59:52,080 --> 01:59:55,360
Speaker 2: and so as a result, and rie K Freeman has

2571
01:59:55,400 --> 01:59:58,680
Speaker 2: been replaced roster wise, at least in terms of the

2572
01:59:58,760 --> 02:00:02,680
Speaker 2: numbers standpoint or the spot standpoint by Taylor Peter. So

2573
02:00:02,800 --> 02:00:06,120
Speaker 2: the roster as it stands right now is full for

2574
02:00:06,280 --> 02:00:09,640
Speaker 2: the Pacers WNBA side of things. For the Fever, Caitlyn

2575
02:00:09,680 --> 02:00:12,800
Speaker 2: Clark no new news on her injury. That from earlier

2576
02:00:12,840 --> 02:00:16,879
Speaker 2: today from Stephanie White on this program, and they sought

2577
02:00:17,200 --> 02:00:20,240
Speaker 2: second opinion on Caitlin Clark, there was no new information

2578
02:00:20,280 --> 02:00:23,320
Speaker 2: to come from that, so she continues to be out

2579
02:00:23,360 --> 02:00:27,360
Speaker 2: indefinitely while they await that soft tissue injury to see

2580
02:00:27,400 --> 02:00:30,560
Speaker 2: when she would be available to the Indiana Fever, who

2581
02:00:30,560 --> 02:00:33,760
Speaker 2: tonight take on the Las Vegas Aces. Eddie Garrison will

2582
02:00:33,760 --> 02:00:37,200
Speaker 2: be on the pre and postgame broadcast of that particular

2583
02:00:37,240 --> 02:00:42,000
Speaker 2: matchup tonight. JMV is out at Taylor's Pub in Greenbrier.

2584
02:00:42,080 --> 02:00:43,480
Speaker 2: Plenty of time for you to get by, have a

2585
02:00:43,480 --> 02:00:45,360
Speaker 2: cold one with him, whether it be Die Cooke perfectly

2586
02:00:45,360 --> 02:00:47,720
Speaker 2: sufficient or a beverage of your choice, but to be

2587
02:00:47,760 --> 02:00:49,600
Speaker 2: able to listen to what J ANDB has to say

2588
02:00:49,960 --> 02:00:52,120
Speaker 2: beginning coming up here in just a couple of minutes.

2589
02:00:52,400 --> 02:00:55,480
Speaker 2: Back to the Bernard Ryman situation. Eddie, you told me

2590
02:00:55,520 --> 02:00:58,920
Speaker 2: that you had a question regarding that situation of Bernard Ryman.

2591
02:00:59,040 --> 02:00:59,920
Speaker 11: I do two things.

2592
02:01:00,440 --> 02:01:03,240
Speaker 3: Number one, do you think Bernard Rabbins camp is looking

2593
02:01:03,240 --> 02:01:05,480
Speaker 3: at the fact that Quentin Nelson is getting paid twenty

2594
02:01:05,480 --> 02:01:08,160
Speaker 3: million dollars as a left guard in they're saying, hey,

2595
02:01:08,160 --> 02:01:10,600
Speaker 3: you're paying him that my client is worth more than this.

2596
02:01:11,040 --> 02:01:15,000
Speaker 3: And then number two, do the carly ersay and all

2597
02:01:15,040 --> 02:01:18,320
Speaker 3: the darters have a say in this, like are they

2598
02:01:18,320 --> 02:01:20,920
Speaker 3: telling Chris Baalid like, hey, let's hold off on committing

2599
02:01:20,960 --> 02:01:22,920
Speaker 3: any big money right now. Let's kind of figure out

2600
02:01:22,920 --> 02:01:24,760
Speaker 3: where things are at. Let's see how the season plays

2601
02:01:24,760 --> 02:01:28,040
Speaker 3: out before we commit to anybody down the line.

2602
02:01:28,480 --> 02:01:31,360
Speaker 2: Really good question, especially the second one there. My assumption

2603
02:01:31,440 --> 02:01:34,280
Speaker 2: would be My assumption would be, while you may be

2604
02:01:34,440 --> 02:01:37,720
Speaker 2: correct that the USA Daughters may say, look, you know,

2605
02:01:37,760 --> 02:01:40,440
Speaker 2: we we'd rather not do signings right before camp or

2606
02:01:40,440 --> 02:01:43,040
Speaker 2: in camp or whatever it may be, I'm going to

2607
02:01:43,200 --> 02:01:47,440
Speaker 2: assume that what they have said is, look, and I

2608
02:01:47,480 --> 02:01:50,520
Speaker 2: don't know this, Eddie. It's a great question. My assumption

2609
02:01:50,560 --> 02:01:52,640
Speaker 2: would be that they say to Chris Ballard, you have

2610
02:01:52,680 --> 02:01:55,000
Speaker 2: been hired to run the football team, and that includes

2611
02:01:55,160 --> 02:01:58,880
Speaker 2: determining what players are and are not worth what salaries.

2612
02:01:59,400 --> 02:02:05,520
Speaker 2: So before you throw a number out and sign somebody

2613
02:02:05,520 --> 02:02:07,240
Speaker 2: to an astronomical number, we'd like to know what the

2614
02:02:07,280 --> 02:02:09,160
Speaker 2: number is first, but we are going to trust in

2615
02:02:09,200 --> 02:02:11,760
Speaker 2: default to your judgment whether or not that. So, in

2616
02:02:11,800 --> 02:02:14,080
Speaker 2: other words, I think they say, here's the amount from

2617
02:02:14,120 --> 02:02:16,720
Speaker 2: a salary cap standpoint, we're willing to spend. You have

2618
02:02:16,800 --> 02:02:20,120
Speaker 2: been hired and entrusted to determine in your best interest

2619
02:02:20,400 --> 02:02:22,720
Speaker 2: where that is allocated, and so long as you are

2620
02:02:22,760 --> 02:02:25,960
Speaker 2: staying within that parameter, obviously by NFL rules, then we

2621
02:02:26,000 --> 02:02:28,080
Speaker 2: trust you on that. So I do think that they

2622
02:02:28,200 --> 02:02:33,120
Speaker 2: probably have gone with the same understanding that their father had,

2623
02:02:33,440 --> 02:02:35,960
Speaker 2: which is that is his decision to make, and we

2624
02:02:35,960 --> 02:02:38,120
Speaker 2: will trust you. But it's a very good question. And

2625
02:02:38,160 --> 02:02:41,879
Speaker 2: that's not to say that's on my behalf the definitive answer.

2626
02:02:42,000 --> 02:02:42,320
Speaker 1: All right.

2627
02:02:42,320 --> 02:02:45,280
Speaker 2: Thanks to Bernard Ryman, Stephanie White, as well Tom Deanhart,

2628
02:02:45,320 --> 02:02:48,480
Speaker 2: Matt Taylor for today, day number two of Colts Camp

2629
02:02:48,560 --> 02:02:51,080
Speaker 2: in the Books, Day number three tomorrow. We will resume

2630
02:02:51,160 --> 02:02:54,520
Speaker 2: at noon tomorrow and Matt, excuse me, chamv is up next,

2631
02:02:54,520 --> 02:02:56,920
Speaker 2: of course from Taylor's pub I thank you for listening

2632
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Speaker 2: to Querying Company