1 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: What makes a cigar the cigar of the year. 2 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 2: That is a great question, and the truth is neither 3 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: Fingers Willy nor I actually know. What we know is 4 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: we like what we like and when something really kind 5 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: of gets us touches the gigglespot. 6 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: That's right, I said it again. 7 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: We bring it to you. It's Eat Drink smeke On 8 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 2: Tony Katz. That is America's favorite amateur drinker. Fingers malloy. 9 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 2: We're doing our Cigars of the Year for twenty twenty five. 10 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 2: My list, I think. 11 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: Is a doozy. 12 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 2: It was the HVC Hotcake, the Connecticut broad Leaf, which 13 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 2: they call fresh out of the Oven, coming in at 14 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 2: number three, number two, the l Ray del Mondo Appointment, 15 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: a spectacular cigar under ten dollars spectac. It was almost 16 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: my number one, but I couldn't get away from the 17 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: fact that from Farry Otago, the Timeless TAA Exclusive twenty 18 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: twenty four is just a knockout. 19 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: It's it's a knockout of a cigar. Fingers Moy. I 20 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: absolutely love it. 21 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,199 Speaker 3: And so the question is, and you kind of touched 22 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 3: on it earlier, is you know, being that you love 23 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 3: this cigar so much, how you're gonna get your hands 24 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 3: on more of these. 25 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's not the easiest cigar to find. By 26 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 2: the way, it comes in one size. It's a six 27 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 2: by fifty, which means that it is six inches long. 28 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: T always makes Fingers moy laugh. 29 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: And the ring gauge is the fifty the diameter of 30 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 2: the cigar, or how thick it is around tea again 31 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: with the laughter. 32 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: A sixty four ring gage will be a full one 33 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: inch round. 34 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 2: So anyway in that forty eight to fifty two, maybe 35 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: fifty four, but forty eight to fifty two, that's where 36 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: I really like to be, unless I can get my 37 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: hands on Lanceo, which is a thirty eight ring gauge, 38 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: so much much thinner, but you get more wrapper, and 39 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: the wrapper ratio to binder and filler gives you a 40 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: lot more flavor. I like, and Sarah's quite a bit. 41 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: And the answer is, I don't know, but I'm gonna 42 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 2: find more. This is an absolutely fantastic smoke. Now Fingers 43 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 2: has his three cigars of the year. We will be 44 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: getting into them and we're drinking the Woodford Reserve double Oak. 45 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 2: So because it's a best of show, our system is 46 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 2: a little bit thrown off. The double oak coming in 47 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: at ninety point four proof. The wood woodford is one 48 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 2: is a classic. It's a standard that should be in 49 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: your liquor cabinet. But the double oak should absolutely be 50 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: in the liquor cabinet. I can't say it enough. Sixty 51 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 2: dollars a bottle really, depending on where you shop. It 52 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 2: is just a wonderful presentation of a fair amount of. 53 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: Sweet, but not overly sweet. The oak is doing its 54 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 1: job there. I'm going back in fingers will wag a 55 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: little choked. 56 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 3: Up Well, a single oak may not be able to 57 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 3: get that choked up feeling away, but you get that 58 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 3: double oaked takes that choked up feeling and just throws 59 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 3: in the trash. 60 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: And the heat is You're hilarious. The heat is not 61 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: is not overwhelming. 62 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 2: So it's this really gentle bit of spice that's in there, 63 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 2: and really you're just you're you're, you're, you're covered by 64 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 2: everything else and in the caramel and and those really traditional, 65 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 2: if you will, kind of bourbon flavors, and so the 66 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: double oaked is just a must for the liquor cabinet. 67 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: But one of the things that we brought up was 68 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: the story out of the Daily Mail about how Americans 69 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 2: are turning their back on pizza. I don't believe that's true. 70 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 2: I don't think that's factual. And what I'm saying is 71 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: is that if we're talking about where people are with 72 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: with with their trends, like with with their with their 73 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: eating habits, it's not that they're saying, oh, pizza, who 74 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: wants that. They're saying a pizza might be more expensive 75 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: than it used to be, and I have to make 76 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: other choices. And so there are two stories here. Fridays 77 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: TGI Fridays now only has eighty five stores. 78 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: But this has been a long time coming. 79 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: Are you gonna tell me that all of a sudden 80 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: people have grown adverse to potato skins? 81 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: Impossible? That's correct. 82 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: The brand is not what it used to be, and 83 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: the excitement isn't what it used to be. And how 84 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 2: it started in Manhattan and the entire world that came 85 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 2: from that, whether we're talking about Fridays, whether we're talking 86 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 2: about what was Manhattan institution called Maxwell's Plumb, and then 87 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,239 Speaker 2: Mondays came from this and Wednesday. There were all these things, 88 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: and then how it got bought and it became the 89 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 2: place of flair, you know, and it spawned that whole 90 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 2: thing with Bennegan's and all the rest brands do have 91 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 2: a course oftentimes, very few things. 92 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: Are forever very few things. 93 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 2: My god, people used to shop at the Pigley Wiggley. 94 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 2: Did you ever think that the Pigley Wiggly was gonna 95 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 2: go out? 96 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: Fingers? 97 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 2: You when when Mother's Maloy, mothers mother Maloy would take 98 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 2: you to the Piggy Wiggly, right. 99 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 3: If Cheesy's memories, it's like it was yesterday, right, yeah, 100 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 3: you know, by the way, did she ever take you 101 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,799 Speaker 3: to the Pigley? We had no Piggy Wigglies in Michigan. 102 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 1: This is my point. This is my point. 103 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 2: Some very few brands are really like through the generation 104 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: brands like things do go. 105 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 3: The other thing too. When it comes to TGI Friday, 106 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 3: it feels like you had competitors in the same kind 107 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 3: of genre of restaurants like Applebee's and Chili's that offered 108 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 3: the same food, but TGI Friday it always felt like 109 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 3: it was a little bit more expensive. So it's like, okay, 110 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 3: what yeah, so what are we going here for? They 111 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 3: did have better, uh like mixed drinks at TGI Fridays. 112 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 3: From what I remember, you know, you could get several 113 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 3: drinks from TGI Fridays that had umbrellas in them. 114 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: Oh. 115 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 3: But having said that, people you know are making choices 116 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 3: and T's chained, they get stale and more expensive, and 117 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 3: you got a competitor comes up. Next thing you know, 118 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 3: you had seven eight hundred locations. Next you know, twenty 119 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 3: years later, you got eighty. 120 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: This goes into another story from NJ dot com, which 121 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 2: stands for a New Jersey. Arby's has closed a number 122 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 2: of stores across the country. They have thirty six hundred locations. 123 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: They've closed dozens of them. Am I to believe that 124 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 2: all of a sudden people don't want fast food? 125 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: Absolutely not. 126 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 3: I think America is catching on to the fact that 127 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 3: curly fries are terrible. 128 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 2: Shut your filthy face, curly fries, jamocha shake. 129 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: This is why Arby's doesn't follow you. That's why they 130 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: have you blocked time to me. 131 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 2: They blocked you on Twitter X they did, and this 132 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 2: is why Arby's. 133 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: Hey, hey, don't Arby's friend Tony. I just want you 134 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: to know that curly fries and jamocha shakes, they're perfect 135 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: and we'd love to be able to share those with 136 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: the eat, drink, smoke nation world. 137 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 2: So if you want to, if you want to send 138 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 2: them by, I'll be sure to keep a good eye 139 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: on them and enjoy them. And I won't give fingers 140 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 2: any because he doesn't deserve them. There's a reason you 141 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 2: blocked him on social media. It's because he's a bastard. 142 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 2: So with that, thank you Arby's, and just remember Wendy's skank. 143 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 3: You sound like Ralph Wigham. 144 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: My cat's breadth spills like cat food. I'm so hungry 145 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: I can eat Arby's. Remember that. 146 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 3: Oh no, no, I know why they don't follow me. 147 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 3: Now I know why they blocked me. 148 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: We're doing Ralph Wiggham, We're doing Ralph Wigham. Try and 149 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: get that on SmartLess. It's not gonna happen. 150 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 2: You're Bateman of I yeah, I like both those things, 151 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: and I like Garby's. 152 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: I like Garby now, Hardy's. 153 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: Carls Junior on the West Coast is my guilty pleasure 154 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 2: for sure. 155 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 3: What is it with the whole west of the mississipp 156 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 3: Carls Junior East of the mississipp. 157 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: Hellman's and Best Foods. I don't know there was it 158 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: was some kind of deal made with the mafia. I mean, 159 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 2: there is no mafia. 160 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know why it is, but 161 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: it is. 162 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 3: You were afraid the Carl's Junior Mafia was gonna come 163 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 3: after you. 164 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 2: I think all of these things, some things have to 165 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 2: do with age, and some things have to do with economics. 166 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: I just don't think people are done with pizza. I 167 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 2: think that's a silly silly hey, let me write an 168 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 2: article argument. Shame on you, Daily Mail. And as for you, 169 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 2: Arby's keep those Jamokah shakes coming. So let's talk cigars 170 00:08:55,040 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 2: of the year, because Fingers belong here has his top three. 171 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 1: I did my top three. 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I have the same problem 190 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 3: with the cigars as I had with the Bourbon, where 191 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 3: I felt like we did a lot of you know, 192 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 3: nice cigars, a lot of that we really enjoyed. But 193 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 3: I had to revisit our list from the year because 194 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 3: there wasn't a bunch of cigars that just like made 195 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 3: me run to the to the cigar shop and say 196 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 3: give me three or four. It just didn't happen for 197 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 3: me this year. The whole year was weird. We said 198 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 3: that about Bourbon. Yeah, we said that about Bourbon. I 199 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 3: will disagree. I didn't feel that way about cigars. I 200 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 3: thought we smoked some freaking bangers. I thought we were 201 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 3: in There were things that we were able. 202 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 2: To do that were just yeah, this is I am 203 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 2: thrilled to see this growth in the industry. So for me, well, 204 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 2: I did go back through the list. There were things 205 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 2: that jumped out that. 206 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: I immediately remembered. 207 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 3: Okay, I think I finally figured out what my problem is. 208 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: Is it your attitude? It actually was my proper hygiene. 209 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 3: Coregate verbs I shaved us six weeks ago, look great, 210 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 3: thank you. 211 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 212 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 3: No, I finally figured out and it just hit me 213 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 3: right now as to why maybe cigars in Bourbon didn't 214 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 3: move me like they normally do and the list was 215 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 3: a little bit harder. Was because I was so distracted 216 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 3: this year or this past year because of the move, 217 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 3: because of the move getting my father down here, I 218 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 3: didn't smoke nearly as many cigars over the course of 219 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 3: the year. You know, during football season, I'd sit in 220 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 3: my garage and smoke you know, three or four on 221 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 3: a Sunday, and I didn't do any of that this year. 222 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 3: So maybe I was just because I was distracted, that 223 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 3: could be. So it was a little bit trickier for 224 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 3: me to come up with the list. Yes, so you're right, 225 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 3: we did smoke a lot of I didn't mean it 226 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 3: that we didn't smoke a lot of great cigars. 227 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: It's just nothing stuck, you know. 228 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: But I think people can appreciate that life gets in 229 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 2: the way, right and and and you don't get to 230 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 2: do things as you normally would. You didn't get to 231 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 2: try as many as you would to go back and 232 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 2: try something, yeah, and really kind of take it in. 233 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 3: So that does that does make sense. But these are 234 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 3: the ones that stuck with you. Yeah, So I'm smoking 235 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 3: my number three on the list. And quite frankly, you know, 236 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 3: Tony and I were talking about this off air. I 237 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 3: could just lump all three of these together because you know, 238 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 3: as far as oh, this is definitely number one on 239 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 3: my list, I really don't feel that way. 240 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: But I'm going to. 241 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 3: Put this at number three for no other reason than 242 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 3: I'm usually the value guy, right and this cigar the 243 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 3: Rocky Patel thirtieth Anniversary, Ah, there you go, which we 244 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 3: reviewed what a month month and a half ago. For 245 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 3: those who were keeping track, it was the episode which 246 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 3: included orio Gate. 247 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 2: We've heard nothing from orio Gate, nothing from the Oreo people, 248 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 2: as opposed to the Imagine people, the movie theater people 249 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 2: who are fantastic and. 250 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: We love them. 251 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: We still have to do something with them. We haven't 252 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 2: been able to put this together yet, but I have 253 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 2: not forgotten. But that's another story, yeah, for another day. 254 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 3: So, but this Rocky Ptel thirtieth anniversary six and a 255 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 3: half by fifty two, which means it's six and a 256 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 3: half inches long. See, I forget it, you get the idea. 257 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 3: Uh it's a Mexican sand Let me try to get 258 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 3: all right. It's six and a half inches long. 259 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: Ha ha, No. 260 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 3: Fifty two is the ring gauge, which means how thick 261 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 3: it is around. 262 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 2: Oh my, I'm trying so new. I need a catchphrase. 263 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 2: Hold on, let me try this. 264 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: Suck it to me. There it is. 265 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 3: See, I thought you were gonna go with waka waka, 266 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 3: keep guessing. So but this also so the rapper Mexican 267 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 3: San Andreas. It's a double binder from Nicaragua and also 268 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 3: the filler is Nicaragua and Honduran. The binders age seven years, 269 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 3: the filler is aged five years. 270 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: It's a box press. Beautiful presentation. 271 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, uh, just gorgeous if you're watching us on YouTube 272 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 3: right now. 273 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 2: I just feel about those big bands, kind of like 274 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 2: two inch three inch bands. 275 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 3: I love looking at them. You know if I you know, 276 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 3: it's one of those things where such a great answer. 277 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: I love looking at them if you have. 278 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 3: You know, my second humotor had a nice glass lid 279 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 3: so I could look down and there's a beautiful band 280 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 3: with it's two or three inches wide. I gues, isn't 281 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 3: that wonderful? And then you go to smoke it and 282 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 3: I'm not a big fan of it. 283 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: You I if it's one band, I don't care. 284 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 2: The multiple band thing kind of gets me and in 285 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 2: mine like the Ferry Otago, the TAA exclusive for twenty 286 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: twenty four is a nice cigar of the year has 287 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 2: three bands on it. 288 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 3: That's the only thing I maybe don't Here's what's tricky 289 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 3: about that. I took Fingers Mois Senior to a cigar 290 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 3: lounge not too long ago. Yeah, and I cannot remember. 291 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 3: This was back in May, and his cigar that he 292 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 3: was smoking, wish I remember which one it was had 293 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 3: two bands on it and his eyesight is failing him, 294 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 3: so he's trying to peel the band off. Next thing, 295 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 3: you know, much of the cigar wrappers also been torn off, 296 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 3: So you know. 297 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: That happens to people who have perfect site. 298 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 3: Yes, So it's just one more way you could damage 299 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 3: your cigars. You're trying to get that second band off. 300 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 3: So no, I just like a small little band. That's 301 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 3: all I like. But this is it's a beautiful cigar. 302 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 3: It's a box press, it's got really great hand feel, 303 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 3: the notes to it. It's tobacco forward, it's got some cocoa. 304 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 3: It's a nice bit of a little bit of spice, 305 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 3: not too much. This is my splurge cigar. So depending 306 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 3: on where you're looking, I've seen it anywhere from fifteen dollars, 307 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 3: which is like, oh wow, I paid twenty two for this, 308 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 3: so it's like, I really really like this cigar. We 309 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 3: reviewed it a month ago and both of us raved 310 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 3: about it. It was all about, uh, the price pointing. 311 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 3: But it's twenty twenty six, Tony and I am trying 312 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 3: to turn a new leaf because we've found this with 313 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 3: you know, across the market, cigars are going up, the 314 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 3: prices are going up. They've gone up, you know, a 315 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 3: lot in the past year and a half. So maybe 316 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 3: it's time for a readjustment. So I'm trying to do that. 317 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 3: I think you're right, and. 318 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: I think in twenty twenty six we should say this 319 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: is the price, Yeah, this is the price at that price. 320 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: Isn't in the humid or yes? Yes? Or no? 321 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 2: Think I think it's a nice pick and it's interesting. 322 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 2: I don't have a box press on my list, and 323 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 2: I love a box press. I like that feel and 324 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 2: everything else. But no, don't have that on the little 325 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 2: Did you just ash on your computer? 326 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: Yes? Do you have a little rubberized matt to cover 327 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: the keyboard? I've got a keyboard caddy? Is that what 328 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: they call it? 329 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 2: No? 330 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: I just just named it. That is that good? Does 331 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: that work? Well? 332 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 3: Did you I have no ash now on my keyboard? 333 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? But ellis? Maybe? Does it? Is it weird to type? No? 334 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 3: Really, especially when I'm you know a lot of times 335 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 3: I'm just talking my assistant Kate, uh through the computer. 336 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 1: You have to type anything? Oh yeah, he's got an 337 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: AI assistant named Kate, and it's and it's weird. Why 338 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: is it weird? Because because you have an AI assistant 339 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: and you don't need an assistant. I look at me, 340 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: I need an assistant. 341 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 2: Eat, drink, smoke. It is your cigar bourbon pooty extravaganza. 342 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz and that is fingers may are cigars 343 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 2: of the Year. That's what we're hitting you with right now. 344 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 2: I've already done my three. You got to get the 345 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 2: podcast in order to get those. Just look for whatever 346 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 2: wherever it is you get your podcasts. It's Eat, Drink, 347 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 2: Smoke and of course et Rink, Smoke show dot com. 348 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 2: But Fingers Molly started with his The Rocky Buttel thirtieth 349 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 2: was his num Number three cigar. 350 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: Fingers, Well, boy, that brings us to number two. 351 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 3: Do you think people rolled their eyes when I said 352 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 3: my splurge stick was twenty two dollars? No? 353 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: Why, I don't know. Maybe it's your influence on me. 354 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 3: You're like money, money, twenty two dollars. 355 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody does that. 356 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 2: I think that people think that twenty two dollars is 357 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 2: a whole bunch of money to spend on a cigar. 358 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: And they're not wrong, they're absolutely not. But it's weird. 359 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 3: This is this Rocky Patel thirtieth anniversary. You'll see it 360 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 3: anywhere from fifteen to twenty two bucks. So especially if 361 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 3: you can get it for fifteen dollars, you go buy, 362 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 3: uh go buy lots of them. Yeah, So it's really enjoyable. 363 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 3: That hand feel box press. I can't believe you didn't 364 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 3: have a You didn't have a box press on your life. 365 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 2: You didn't have a box press on my top three list. 366 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 2: But I'm very happy with my top three list. Fingers 367 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 2: has Rocky Totel thirty. This is number three. What's your 368 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 2: number two? 369 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: Number two? 370 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 3: Now, this is a cigar that has been around for 371 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 3: a while. Tony and I know that we've had discussions 372 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 3: in the past. We have a cigar that's been on 373 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 3: the list for a while. Well, the rules are to 374 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 3: make it on our list, it has to be a 375 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 3: cigar that we reviewed in twenty twenty five, So it 376 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,719 Speaker 3: doesn't matter. It could be fifteen years old, doesn't matter, right, 377 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 3: it's if we reviewed it in twenty twenty five. That's 378 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 3: what makes it eligible to. 379 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: Absolutely, it has nothing to do with whether it came. 380 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 3: Out that year, right, So number two on the list 381 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 3: had to have a Lanceero on the list. To me, 382 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 3: hold on, thank you, thank you, the Lafleur Dominicana Cameroon 383 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 3: Cabinet Lanceero. That's a nice cigar, it is, and it's 384 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 3: I was That's really the one I wanted to smoke 385 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 3: this week. I'll be honest with you, because I haven't 386 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 3: had a Lanceo in a little while. Hard to get 387 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 3: your hands on, but it was number two on my list. 388 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 3: A Cameroon wrapper, Dominican binder and filler, you get the notes. 389 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 3: It's a little spicy, a little sweet. I got some cashews, 390 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 3: some a little bit of chocolate. A wonderful experience, you know, 391 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 3: And you and I we talk about it all the time. 392 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 3: I for one, the first Lanceero I really really got 393 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 3: drawn to was the Aladino Cameroon LANCERA. 394 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: Oh beautiful stick. 395 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 3: And that's another one that it's the price is right, 396 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 3: this one twelve to thirteen dollars a stick if you 397 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 3: can find it. And you and I both when we 398 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 3: reviewed it, we just absolutely loved this cigar. That's number 399 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 3: two on my list. And quite frankly, I'm shocked that 400 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 3: you didn't really have a Lancero on. 401 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, just it. It didn't. 402 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 2: It didn't hit me that way when I was going 403 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 2: through it and going over it. I these are the 404 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 2: things that kind of moved me more in it. And 405 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 2: it's you know, the fact that I have things that 406 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 2: I like and styles that I like for Tola's that 407 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 2: I like. Sometimes there are other things that just move 408 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 2: you more, you know, for something specific and for me 409 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 2: for my top three this year, that did. But it's 410 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 2: a great choice of a Lanceerro. It's a cigar that's 411 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 2: certainly if I remember right, it's been around. But again 412 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 2: it's about when we smoked it, what we did in 413 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 2: the last year, not necessarily what is new versus what 414 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 2: is new to us what we tried this year. So 415 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 2: a nice choice was it? Was it the the tola 416 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 2: you just remember, man, I just love lancero so much. 417 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 3: Was there something maybe it's a soft spot with me 418 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 3: that it's like, okay, I when I have a Lanceero 419 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 3: it sticks in my head because I really enjoy them. 420 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: I don't mind. 421 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 3: I actually kind of like the hand feel of Lanceerro. 422 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 3: I know some people, you know, they're they think, oh, 423 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 3: it's too dainty, you know, if you really want to 424 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 3: get into it's a manly cigar. It's not you know, 425 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 3: sixty four ring gauge all the way. It's like, well, 426 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 3: now this what's great about a Lanceerro is the amount 427 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 3: of wrapper to binder to fill a ratio. You get 428 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 3: most of the flavor from the rapper, so there's more rapper, 429 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 3: you know, compared to the binder and fillers, you get 430 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 3: more flavor from the rapper. 431 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,959 Speaker 1: I just really enjoyed that. 432 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 3: You know, it's a cameroon like a cameroon's you know, 433 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 3: So it's just it's just home run and at twelve 434 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 3: thirteen dollars a stick, good value. 435 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, a great choice for the number two. We'll get 436 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 2: to your number one in just a little bit, but 437 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 2: we do have some news of the week to get to. 438 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 3: I'll handle this one. Oh okay, thank you guys. We 439 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 3: didn't talk about it during the break right. 440 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 2: Because you know, they call me all across America Johnny 441 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 2: good News. 442 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: So true, that's what they call me, right there. 443 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 2: Cable TV networks seeing viewership drop in twenty twenty five, 444 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 2: some buy as much as seventy eight percent. 445 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: Now it's weird is in this story. 446 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 2: It's from a group called chord Cutter News, and that's 447 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 2: where I get all of my cord cutting news. 448 00:22:58,119 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: It's a place to be for cord cutters. 449 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 2: I was out Saturday night with some friends and it 450 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 2: turns out I know a guy who does in the 451 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 2: weirdest thing ever a fingers with maloy impression. You have 452 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 2: become so iconic on this radio show and on the podcast, 453 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 2: people do impressions of you. They're working on their Michigan twang, 454 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 2: they're working on your I'm just an average Joe kind of. 455 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 2: They've got all your mannerisms. They're tea heating all across 456 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 2: the lands. I have heard te he quite a bit 457 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 2: over the years. 458 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I hope it's a somewhat flattering impression. 459 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: It's excellent. 460 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 2: Okay, honestly, it's a derbr okay, got the voice, got 461 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 2: the inflection, it's it's super niche. 462 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if it gets your girls, but my god, 463 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: it was, Yeah. 464 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 3: Thirty years ago would have got you some girls. 465 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 2: Uh, it's it's it's excellent, which is weird because he's 466 00:23:59,640 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 2: only thirty. 467 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: Fine, right, it's excellent. What's weird is that cord cutter's. 468 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 3: New hold a helple on a second. You were going 469 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 3: into a cord cutting story. How did that come up? 470 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. 471 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 2: You said something and it made me think, oh, because 472 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 2: I said, it's where I get all my cord cutting news, 473 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 2: which is something you would say and remind me. 474 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: This guy does an impression, all right. 475 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 2: It says many cable TV networks, including CNN and ms now, 476 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 2: which used to be MSNBC. I call it miss now 477 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 2: saw everybody does. Saw their viewership drop in twenty twenty five, 478 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 2: some by as much as seventy eight percent. This is 479 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 2: a punch in the face to liberal news networks. 480 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: Like I couldn't believe they put that in the headline. 481 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: That's crazy. Yeah it is. 482 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 3: Also, but I'm looking over some of these networks, the 483 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 3: one that they said, oh, up to seventy eight percent, 484 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 3: just this is Central. Have you ever heard of Justice Central? 485 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 1: Don't cour tvo, don't don't Well that was the People's 486 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: court Bound, that's true. 487 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 3: Don't Justice Central? 488 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: Do you some of these. 489 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 3: It's like, okay, American Heroes Network, and then you see 490 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 3: the viewership, It's like, how are they affording to even 491 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 3: run a network? 492 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: Just Es Central has seventeen thousand average daily viewers, So 493 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: do I. That's what I'm saying. 494 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 3: Clearly now it's obvious you need your own network, Tony. 495 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: First of all, so true, so true. 496 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 2: Uh. Fox Business declined twenty percent, Team Nick twenty five percent, 497 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 2: Boomerangs down twenty one percent, Animal Planet down twenty eight percent, 498 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 2: not Geo down twenty percent, ms NOW down twenty six percent, 499 00:25:55,680 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 2: twenty six percent that is adult swim down twenty percent. 500 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 2: People aren't watching less content. They're watching less content that way. 501 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all you're looking at some of this and 502 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 3: it's you know, the weather channel. Honestly, do you do 503 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 3: you tune into the weather channel anymore to get your weather? 504 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 2: I tune into the weather channel on my phone. That's 505 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 2: where the weather is. The weather channel is on my phone. 506 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 2: And that's the whole point. You're scrolling your stream. You 507 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 2: all you saw, all your time is spent on the youtubess. Yes, 508 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 2: where you should subscribe to eat rink smoke on YouTube. 509 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 2: You should do that right now. 510 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 3: You know there are weather channels on YouTube where you've 511 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 3: got weather influencers. Tony what no, no, no, yeah, I'm 512 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 3: calling weather influencers influencer. 513 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 2: You get all into conspiracy theory or you you're you're 514 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 2: really right in the rails there. 515 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 3: We're not talking about seating clouds, ladies and gentlemen. We're 516 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 3: talking about weather personalities who were just running with weather 517 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 3: influencers because it's fun. 518 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: To name them that wether and influencers. We've lost our minds. Cable, 519 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 1: it used to be a thing that's. 520 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 2: Over fingers boys Number one cigars coming up? 521 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: So what brings us to number one? 522 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 2: Which cigar has Fingers Maloy chosen to be his cigar 523 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 2: of the year. It's eat Drink Smell. I'm Tony Katz. 524 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 2: That is America's favorite amateur drinker. Fingers Mali, You've been 525 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 2: having coffee while you're having the cigars from a place 526 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 2: that sounds like Bunkin' Bonuts. 527 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 3: Just like Bunkin' Bonuts exactly. You know, it got me 528 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 3: thinking when you were doing the whole lead up to 529 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 3: the number one cigar, I was going to make a 530 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 3: joke about bubblegum cigars, and I was wondering if they 531 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 3: still make them. You remember, back in the day they 532 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 3: made bubble gum cigars. 533 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 2: I sure, doll horribly right. 534 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, a fan favorite of kids for 535 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: yours was funny smoked horribly You win? What made you 536 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: think of bubble gum cigars? You know what? Tony? 537 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 3: Oh God, I find now that we are into the 538 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 3: first week of twenty twenty six, I'm very reflective in 539 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 3: thinking about the past. 540 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: Is that right? 541 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 3: Yes, the nineteen seventies, it was a simpler time. Of course, 542 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 3: I wasn't alive back then. I'm much too young, but 543 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 3: I read a lot of magazines about it, periodicals, if 544 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 3: you will, and it seemed like a simpler time. Saturday 545 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 3: Evening Post, Saturday Evening Post Digest based in Indianapolis, TV 546 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 3: Guide not based in Indianapolis. 547 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 2: Number one cigar for fingers be boy, what will it be? 548 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 2: He has taken us through the Panople. The number three 549 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 2: was the Rocketptel thirty year, and the number two was 550 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 2: the Lancero from the Florida Minnicana the Cameroon Cabinet. 551 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: You gotta be impressed. I remember those things right there. Impressive. 552 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: I have my top three. 553 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 2: By the way, you gotta get the podcast if you 554 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 2: haven't heard my top three yet. Fingers Loy, what is 555 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 2: your twenty twenty five even though it's twenty twenty six. 556 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 3: Cigar of the year, year, year, year, So this is 557 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 3: a value pick, a huge value pick. We both were 558 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 3: very impressed with this cigar. Bubble gum, no, not bubble gum. 559 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 3: I told you they don't smoke. 560 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: Well, you're right, they are terrible. 561 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 3: But you and I reviewed this cigar and when we 562 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 3: talked about the notes, it was, you know, a nice 563 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 3: sweet cigar with some a good bit of spice smooth. 564 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 3: There was a little herbal and floral undercurrent. Seven to 565 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 3: eight dollars a stick for this one, it was the 566 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 3: Mcalliff Red. 567 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 2: Oh, nicely done. Mcaliff has done beautiful work. The red, 568 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 2: the black, the blue, really really took cigars by storm. 569 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 2: Definitely something that's in the humid or nice in terms 570 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 2: of the value pick brad vis but I doesn't smoke like 571 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 2: a value cigar. 572 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: Very very good smoke. 573 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 3: Rapper is the San Andreas Habano, the binder Nicaraguan grown 574 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 3: Pennsylvania broadleaf, and of that too, Yeah, and then the 575 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 3: filler Nicaraguan and Mexican. 576 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: It just we just both enjoyed it, like I said. 577 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 3: And when we were looking over the list, you had 578 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 3: your picks, and you're the money shmuney guy honey s money, 579 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 3: he says of me, Yes, And I always think, man 580 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 3: if I can find something in this economy that gives 581 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 3: each drink smoke nation good value but also a nice 582 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 3: smoking experience, I don't think you can go wrong with 583 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 3: the mcalf red. I mean seven to eight dollars a stick. 584 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 2: That's a great pick. It's a great pick. Good people 585 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 2: doing good work. That's a nice list. That's a little 586 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,959 Speaker 2: bit of all over the place kind of list right there, 587 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 2: from Fingers Moloy with the Rocky Betel thirtieth with the Lanceo, 588 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 2: the Cameeron Cabinet from La Florida Minicana, and then Mcaliff 589 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 2: the Mcaliff read nice we smoked good cigars in twenty 590 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 2: twenty five, then yeah, we really did. I'm looking forward 591 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 2: to what twenty twenty six brings. You know, there are 592 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 2: some brands that we shied away from this year we're 593 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 2: gonna go back to, and I think we're gonna see 594 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 2: possibly some more Davidovs in in this year. Adabay has 595 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 2: come on huge, gonna be some plays into what they're 596 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 2: doing with the Adabe and the Byron and a whole 597 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 2: bunch of cigars, And as we've talked about our Taro 598 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 2: Flente flooding the zone, there may be some more of 599 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 2: those to try. But there's always the boutiques, there's always 600 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 2: the smaller players, and we're always gonna give them their 601 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 2: love because they're doing good work. 602 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 3: Is there a brand that we have not reviewed off 603 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 3: the top of your head that you either had people say, hey, 604 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 3: why aren't you reviewing this? Maybe not much a boutique cigar, 605 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 3: but one of the bigger players that we haven't really 606 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 3: even attempted a review on. 607 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 2: So I would argue that there are many more of 608 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 2: my fathers that we should probably get in on. There 609 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 2: might be some other Padrones that we should we we 610 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 2: should play with. There is I think we've done one 611 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 2: Crux cigar and we can check them out for sure. 612 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 2: So just as an example a cigar that we did 613 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, from meeting them at the 614 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 2: at the show and now coming back actually going to 615 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 2: be in a local humidore here in Indianapolis, Lampert L. 616 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: A M P E R T. Excellent. 617 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 2: Let's see what Cavalier has been up to and get 618 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 2: back to them. 619 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: Because I really do enjoy Cavalier cigars. 620 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 3: One brand that I've seen that I don't know if 621 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 3: we've done much of. If we have, it's been a 622 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 3: long time's aging room. 623 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 2: So I have I have in the Humido right now. 624 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 2: I have some of the Maduro, the Cinmatra, I have 625 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 2: their small batch, and I have the Nicaragua, which for 626 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 2: cigar Fishionado was number one or number. 627 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: Two a few years back. 628 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 2: I have it as a torpedo excellent, cigar excelels gar 629 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 2: more than happy to throw some aging room into the 630 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 2: mix and see and see where that is. 631 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, there's I think there's a bunch. 632 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 2: And if there are cigars you want us to try, 633 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 2: you should tell us what those cigars are, just like 634 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 2: when there are steaks I want you to try. You 635 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 2: should go to Defiance Beef dot com and place your order. 636 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 2: Get a whole cow. You got a whole year ahead 637 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 2: of you. You need a cow. You need beef that 638 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 2: you actually want to feed your family. Twenty one day 639 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 2: age right there from the Indiana farm to your table. 640 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 2: Go to Defiance Beef defiancebef dot com. Use promo code, eat, drink, smoke, 641 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 2: get one hundred and fifty dollars off your order. Incredible. 642 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 2: I have gone through all my revis and all my strips. 643 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 2: I've done it. I've gone through them all. We still 644 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 2: have ground beef. But I'm getting ready to place the 645 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 2: next order. You're great placing the next order, and I'm 646 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 2: going big. I'm going I'm going full cow. 647 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: You want to go in? You wanna go in? You 648 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: want to go in. 649 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 2: I need a chess freezer. Yeah, first of all, you're 650 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 2: gonna need a chess freezer. Then then you can go in. 651 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,479 Speaker 2: I'll go I'm all in. I'm going full cow. Let's 652 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,399 Speaker 2: go full cout. Okay, let's go full freaking cow. It's 653 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 2: gonna be fantastic. I still have a six pound brisket 654 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 2: that I need to do. I might turn it into 655 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 2: a PESTROMI I have been jones in to do that 656 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six, so that's going to happen. Of course, 657 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 2: I have the I have the infrared friar. 658 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:32,240 Speaker 1: It's an air fryer. 659 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 2: Suck, but it's so great. I have so many more 660 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 2: things to do in that. So yeah, it's We did 661 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 2: a really good job of bringing food into eat, drink, 662 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 2: smoke in twenty twenty five. Much more that much more recipes, 663 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 2: and I'm serious about the cookbook. We have got so 664 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 2: many things that we do privately and so many things 665 00:34:58,840 --> 00:34:59,760 Speaker 2: that we've done on the show. 666 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,240 Speaker 1: I think that it's a no brainer. 667 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 3: Are we ready yet to discuss There's one thing that 668 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 3: excites me almost as much as to findes beef at 669 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 3: this point. Are we ready to talk about the new website? 670 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 2: No, no, we are not ready to talk about the 671 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 2: new website, but it's coming. It is it is coming. 672 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 2: What we can talk about is wait, what day is it? 673 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 2: Hold on, I'll tell you we're gonna be live. I 674 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,959 Speaker 2: mentioned this what we've got a live each each drink 675 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 2: smoke to do. 676 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 1: Westfield, Indiana. 677 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 2: We will be at Big Halfa's Barbecue Tuesday, January thirteenth. 678 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 1: They're barbecue and Old Forester night. We will be there. 679 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 2: Get your tickets at Big Hoffas h O F f 680 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 2: a s Big Hoffas dot com. 681 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: Get your tickets. 682 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,959 Speaker 2: We will be there Tuesday, January thirteenth, six pm. You'll 683 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 2: get Old Forester, you will get a full barbecue buffet, 684 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 2: and we are doing the show live that night, Tuesday, 685 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 2: January thirteenth. So yeah, you want to be there. If 686 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 2: you're anywhere near Indiana, come on out to Westfield, Indiana, 687 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 2: Big Hoppas Barbecue. Of course, Adam Hoffman Big Hoppas helped 688 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 2: us very much with the book Big Let's Go Barbecue, 689 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 2: so appreciate him. So we're coming out there and we're 690 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 2: doing that Big Hoppas Barbecue that is Tuesday, January thirteenth. 691 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 2: You don't you don't want to miss. It's gonna be unbelievable. 692 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 2: I'm not eating until then. No you shouldn't. Yeah, we're 693 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 2: gonna go to town brisket. I'm gonna have him do 694 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 2: sometimes he'll do for people fried ribs. 695 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 3: If you can get him to do the cornbread. 696 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Oh we can make them do the cornbread. 697 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 1: Oh outstanding, I can do that. 698 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 2: So January thirteenth, be there for that, and don't forget 699 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 2: to go to Defiance Beef dot com. Use promo code 700 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 2: Eat Drink Smoke. Those are our top cigars for the year. 701 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 2: We're back next week, new episodes, new things to try. 702 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 2: Find everything at Eat Drink Smoke show dot com. Catch 703 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 2: you then it's Eat Drink Smoke