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Speaker 2: read Kevin Bowen's latest on the Indianapolis Colts all the time,

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Speaker 2: and I know Kevin. Yesterday the day after Shane Steikeen

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Speaker 2: had some things to say a lot of the same

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Speaker 2: questions from the post game, I would imagine, But did

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Speaker 2: we learn anything from coach Sdiking at the press conference? Yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Well, I talked a whole lot yesterday about the Colts

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Speaker 3: and the Rams. James Boyd, he talked with you briefly,

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Speaker 3: so I might flip the tables over to you just overall.

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Speaker 3: Whether it's Adie Mitchell in the postgame locker room, I

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Speaker 3: know we touched a little bit on that with you

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Speaker 3: in just twenty four hours later. What did you make

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Speaker 3: of everything that transpired with him in the game itself

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Speaker 3: and how you view the Colts. I guess standing with

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Speaker 3: ad for lack of a better term here moving forward.

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Speaker 4: I would definitely say it was a somber locker room,

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Speaker 4: which it always is after a loss, but this was

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Speaker 4: different because it's like when you're growing up, if those

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Speaker 4: in trouble and you can't laugh where obviously you can't

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Speaker 4: do anything, or it's just an awkward situation because like,

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Speaker 4: you know this is coming. That's what it felt like

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Speaker 4: for Adie Mitchell when we walked to the locker room.

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Speaker 4: It's like we weren't going any of the locker we

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Speaker 4: were already courting any with Colts pr like, hey, where

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Speaker 4: is he because he knows he knows he has to talk,

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Speaker 4: and if he ducks out of here, that'll make it worse.

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Speaker 4: It'll make it a three day story instead of a

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Speaker 4: you know, game story. So he was waiting for hoodie on,

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Speaker 4: pulled the hoodie off, got up and faced the music.

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Speaker 4: But you could tell everyone's thinking the same thing. It's like, man,

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Speaker 4: we lost this game largely because of our own mistakes.

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Speaker 4: But that mistake you gave away points like the holding

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Speaker 4: him getting beat a lot was you know, something that

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Speaker 4: can't be overlooked. Examit Howard looking like he can't play

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Speaker 4: in the NFL anymore. Like those things were certainly factors,

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Speaker 4: but to give points away in that fashion was you know,

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Speaker 4: I thought for Adi Mitchell was the fact that he

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Speaker 4: told us, yeah, Shane had a slogan for this, you know,

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Speaker 4: letters and logos acting to explain it. Yeah, that means

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Speaker 4: when you followed up with Shane yesterday during our zoom

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Speaker 4: he's got to practice and earn it. I thought that was,

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Speaker 4: had this debate online yesterday with some people. They were like, hey,

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Speaker 4: who've earned grace get it.

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Speaker 4: Those who don't don't get it. JT has earned grace.

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Speaker 4: He was already a first team All Pro, one of

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Speaker 4: him for is the bad plays, and he's been. Honestly,

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Speaker 4: I would argue he's been more a negative than a

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Speaker 3: His first two year. Yeah, I want to get back

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Speaker 3: to that aspect in just a second, But let's go

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Speaker 3: ahead and play that clip mark from Shane Stike in yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Shane was initially noncommittal when asked about, Hey, did you

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he's going to go through practice and

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Speaker 5: like I said, he's got to earn it going forward.

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Speaker 2: Quick. Simple. So what does that mean?

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Speaker 3: What do you think?

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Speaker 2: I don't think we're going to see him as much

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Speaker 3: Will you see with a jersey on the think they'll

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Speaker 3: make him an active That's what the question was. The

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Speaker 3: And that's the answer that you get. And remember, eighty

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Speaker 3: Mitchell is playing when everyone's healthy, and we'll see about

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Speaker 3: Alec Pierce of course in his availability after missing a game.

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Speaker 3: When everyone's healthy, eighty Mitchell's playing about twelve snaps fifteen

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Speaker 3: STAPs a game. So is this do you feel like

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Speaker 3: you need further accountability, Shane said. Yesterday Adie Mitchell spoke

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Speaker 3: on one with Shane Steichen. Is that enough in the

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Speaker 3: and the Jonathan Taylor analogy you bring up from last year, James,

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Speaker 3: My question would be this, do you, unlike Taylor, do

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Speaker 3: lacked trust. Specifically on Sunday, you couldn't trust him to

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Speaker 3: That is the exact teach tape on what not to

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Speaker 3: I would argue is a repeatable offender. That would be

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Speaker 2: I agree with everything you just said, and I understand

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Speaker 3: You don't say with Shane Steichen, But I also feel.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how they handle him. I don't know

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Speaker 2: what that dynamic is within that building. Don't you think

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Speaker 2: that in certain situations, especially when you're going with multiple

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's true, Jeff, and I certainly think

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Speaker 4: where do you draw the line exactly the potential that

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Speaker 4: big issue for Adie Mitchell so far throughout his career,

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Speaker 4: and if they decided to sit him, it would be warranted,

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Speaker 4: and I would feel zero sympathy because the mistake he

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Speaker 4: I don't know what he's been trying to do there,

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Speaker 4: just a blatantly obvious hold. But to not cross the

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Speaker 4: saying other mistakes are made, yes, but not that mistake.

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Speaker 4: And so again, if they want to set him, I

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Speaker 4: would I could see both sides of it, like why

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Speaker 4: young guy? He does offer you some you know, advantages,

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Speaker 4: I would think, you know when it comes to defense

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Speaker 4: I would argue again that Adie Mitchell through his first

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Speaker 4: think a controversial statement at all.

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Speaker 3: Jeff just can't afford a game where eighty Mitchell's in

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Speaker 2: I've waved goodbye to that.

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Speaker 4: But but honestly, no jokes aside. That's the that's the

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Speaker 4: sad part though. That's the sad part. He had three

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Speaker 4: big time performance, and it should have been three catches

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Speaker 2: He's study, his focus, he's study, he's.

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Speaker 4: Willingness to block, he's willingness to make the plays on

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Speaker 4: Granted he's a veteran, but we've never had to question

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Speaker 3: And I would really have little issue with sitty in

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Speaker 4: You're not saying get rid of for the rest of

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Speaker 4: the season. If you want to teach a lesson, that's fine.

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Speaker 3: Like you have guys in active every week for lack

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Speaker 3: of trust, it's just not as public as potentially this

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Speaker 3: Ady Mitchell situation would be. I mean, there are plenty

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Speaker 3: no issue with that, honestly. But where I sit at

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Speaker 3: incredible catch that he makes, Like there's no denying that

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Speaker 3: move after Yeah, I mean everything about that play pre

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Speaker 3: box score is two minus go in the game on

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Speaker 3: the holding penalty, Like that's the next I mean. Jonathan

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Speaker 3: Taylor responded with two hundred rushing yards the Denver play

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Speaker 3: I have two ndred yards coming up on Sunday. But

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Speaker 3: within the game itself, that was Adie Mitchell's response that

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Speaker 3: And again, maybe you should have sent a message during

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Speaker 3: said he had a conversation with him. Maybe said hey,

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Speaker 3: you and Reggie Wayne, you two chat for five or

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Speaker 3: ten minutes. Duland's going to take your reps for this series.

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Speaker 3: We're taking a shot to you right here on the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I thought what Jades he said after Sunday's

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Speaker 4: That may be I would agree with that on statement honestly,

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Speaker 4: Here you are not helping us win and that's the

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Speaker 2: So on top of the mental mistake, they're just not

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Speaker 2: wonder if it's all just compounds, and maybe maybe Shane

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Speaker 3: James Dummer play from Sunday, eighty Mitchell the goal line

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Speaker 4: Eighty Mitchell the goal line.

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Speaker 2: See. I have a problem with ten men on the

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Speaker 3: How many guys missed.

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Speaker 2: How many people everywhere missed that, from people in the booth,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think I'm a Jeff on this one. The

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Speaker 3: Ady Mitchell is a single human. The amount of people

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Speaker 3: it was brought up to me yesterday. That was a

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Speaker 3: the whole Shane Ssikein debate. There's so much on its

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Speaker 7: Have you seen how many people are on the sidelines

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Speaker 4: Ye, you guys might be winning me over there.

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Speaker 3: And Mark, Mark, you've been in an NFL press boxes, James,

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Speaker 3: you're an NFL press boxes. The herd of coaches that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm always cried like twelve of them. I truly

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Speaker 4: do want to ask, what the heck do you actually

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: What is your job like?

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Speaker 7: From office space?

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Speaker 3: I would legitimately think the amount of people you see

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Speaker 3: you count to eleven every single play. Travis, the intern

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Speaker 7: If somebody's in there counting somebody, they've got to be like,

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Speaker 2: Didn't we have Jim Trussell quality control around here.

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Speaker 3: At one point he was yes for Jim Caldwell, would

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Speaker 7: I know, I always like you have to track people

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Speaker 3: Looking at the play, they're both very stupid. James, to

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Speaker 3: be fair, let me be clear on that there's no

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 3: I think cam Biden said to you guys, James after

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Speaker 3: the lou Ana Roumo pre snap confusion, because if you

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Speaker 4: You're not.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's not how lou operates.

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Speaker 4: on the play, Yeah, Makai Blackman fell down. But if

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Speaker 7: The ad Mitchell play is an individual play. The ten

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Speaker 2: Would have made something.

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Speaker 3: If Carly is the one that caught that, maybe she

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Speaker 2: I think the head coach has to do it.

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Speaker 3: Got to be the head coach.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise everybody's just yelling at the referee all day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a good point. Would you guys fall

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of guys that I've known, interviewed,

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Speaker 3: James didn't. Shane Steichen rewatch the Super Bowl the morning

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Speaker 4: He did because I was asking him how hard it

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Speaker 3: Is that like a Sunday to Tuesday? I'm trying to

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Speaker 4: That sounds about right, because I remember I was at

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Speaker 4: Then pay your ties.

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Speaker 4: Think that I would go back and watch it all

439
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Speaker 4: the way up until the injury, because that bedroom was

440
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Speaker 4: which is what Carlile said to us, right, Yeah, And

441
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Speaker 4: maybe it's just different for every player. I certainly empathized

442
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Speaker 4: with Tyreese and perhaps he lived it so it didn't

443
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Speaker 4: have to necessarily go back and rewatch it. But for

444
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Speaker 4: us I will.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

446
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Speaker 4: I don't think I've ever skipped over those highlights since

447
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Speaker 4: the end of the run. Like I see them on

448
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Speaker 4: Facebook or Twitter or Instagram or TikTok, and I'll find

449
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Speaker 4: myself watching whenever they come across my timeline.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've known a lot of players that have told

451
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Speaker 2: me after Super Bowl losses that they never wanted to

452
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Speaker 2: watch that game ever again. It was just too painful.

453
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Speaker 3: Curious how tonight's game flow will be again. Game five,

454
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Speaker 3: winner moves on to the finals, loser. Offseason begins. Fever

455
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Speaker 3: aces nine to thirty the tip time. I get that

456
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Speaker 3: it's not Game seven in the NBA Finals, but I

457
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Speaker 3: thought Game seven the NBA Finals, and certainly post Haliburt injury,

458
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 3: maybe pre halburn injury didn't feel this way. But that

459
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 3: game turned into an absolute grind that was like a

460
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Speaker 3: big ten Tuesday night game. It was like, first one

461
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Speaker 3: to like sixty have felt like, well, I mean the Pacers,

462
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Speaker 3: you know, every time it seemed like Matherin made a

463
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Speaker 3: basket to cut it to like nine, you kind of

464
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Speaker 3: were like, wait, is this gonna happen? Is this like

465
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Speaker 3: the thunder could never really fully pull away? Is that

466
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Speaker 3: what we're gonna see tonight. Is it gonna be a grind?

467
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Speaker 3: Is it gonna be a slog? You know, I remember

468
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Speaker 3: saying this in the clinching game of the Atlanta Dream

469
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Speaker 3: series of the Fever. Put game pressure on them? And you,

470
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Speaker 3: I mean, James, you remember full well the end of

471
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Speaker 3: that Dream game. There were some wild coaching decisions by

472
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Speaker 3: Atlanta in the final minute too. Now, Becky Hammond's I

473
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Speaker 3: think's in a different stratus fere absolutely from a coaching standpoint,

474
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Speaker 3: but still they are gonna feel the pressure. They didn't

475
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Speaker 3: think the series would go five, and they're gonna be

476
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Speaker 3: the favorite, probably against the Mercury if they're able to advance.

477
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Speaker 3: It's not the links with the FISA Colli're waiting there

478
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Speaker 3: in the finals. So can Stephanie White Lunch? Can we

479
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,360
Speaker 3: get to a fourth quarter late in those media timeouts?

480
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Speaker 3: And Ryan Ruco is you know having the Octavius or

481
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,919
Speaker 3: raise a little bit? Can you put that game pressure

482
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Speaker 3: on them?

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Speaker 2: I think the first six to eight minutes tonight are

484
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Speaker 2: really important for the Fever. They cannot let Asia Wilson

485
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Speaker 2: and the Aces get out to like an eighteen to

486
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Speaker 2: six advantage right out of the gate.

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Speaker 4: It will tell us a lot here in just over

488
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Speaker 4: twelve hours. So I'm looking forward to that game. I

489
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Speaker 4: will be wired for that one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think the Fever did a really

491
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Speaker 2: nice job when they've won these games. They've just kind

492
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Speaker 2: of made better plays at better times. But they have

493
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Speaker 2: trouble with this team, it seems in this series if

494
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 2: getting behind and having to dig themselves back out, James,

495
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 2: that's been a problem.

496
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Speaker 4: Yeah, they can't dig themselves back out. They go down

497
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Speaker 4: by you know, fifteen sixteen points here early, it'll be over.

498
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Speaker 4: So I got to keep it close, and I expect

499
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Speaker 4: a lot of people to be on edge for this game.

500
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Speaker 4: And is how you respond to that that moment, that

501
00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,200
Speaker 4: pressure and that opportunity. But again, if you add ask

502
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 4: any team at the beginning of the year, hey, one

503
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,479
Speaker 4: game goes to the finals, you take that all right?

504
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Speaker 2: Coming up in just a minute, more on the Colts

505
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 2: getting ready for the Raiders on Sunday afternoon over at

506
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Speaker 2: Lucas Oil Stadium.

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Speaker 3: Give me Chris Berman Raiders.

508
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 2: Alright, look at that take it on the Indianapolis Colt.

509
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 3: That mark that was beautiful from Jeff record.

510
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 2: We need to get one of those stumbling, bumbling. Remember

511
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Speaker 2: those those are good stuff. Man. I don't know if

512
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 2: I can put that one off. We'll try something like that. Alright,

513
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Speaker 2: it's all coming up next ninety three five, one oh

514
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Speaker 2: seven five nothing we must I'm gonna start all over again, Mark,

515
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Speaker 2: I just kind of spit that up right there. I

516
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 2: was gonna say nothing we love more in sports than

517
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Speaker 2: an Yeah, right, that's what that was. That's never ever

518
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Speaker 2: happened to our next guest though, ever. Oh, because he's

519
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 2: he is gold, there's no question about that. But I

520
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 2: was saying, we love nothing more than an all important,

521
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 2: deciding game and a playoff, and we get that tonight.

522
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 2: And when the Las Vegas Aces stand in the way

523
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Speaker 2: of the Indiana Fever trying to get to the WNBA Finals,

524
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Speaker 2: we bring in our next guest now on the Payless

525
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Speaker 2: Lookers hotline, Pat Boiling Pat. I'll turn it over to

526
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 2: your smooth dulcet tones to save me this morning and

527
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 2: tell us all about the Fevers chance tonight in game five.

528
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Speaker 2: And good morning, by the way, Good.

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Speaker 1: Morning everyone, and Kevin. I hope you appreciate that I'm

530
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Speaker 1: here at eight forty.

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Speaker 3: This is a real early one for me. I almost

532
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Speaker 3: called you on my way on this morning.

533
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Speaker 1: You know what I've been Actually, I'm standing here at

534
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Speaker 1: Gamersfield House for your visual. I've actually been here since

535
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Speaker 1: six o'clock doing morning hit. So this is like look

536
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: up the station. So this is like number eleven for me.

537
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 1: I'm warmed up. So let's go. Yeah, you know, obviously

538
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 1: the game out in Vegas tonight massive one chance to

539
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: go to the WNBA Finals. There's some interesting potential history

540
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 1: repeating itself here because ten years ago, almost to the day,

541
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Speaker 1: the head coach of the Indiana Fever was Stephanie White

542
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 1: and they were the four seed that year. Nobody expected

543
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 1: them to make the WNBA Finals, but they got there,

544
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,880
Speaker 1: and in fact, that team, a little bit like last

545
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 1: year's Pacers, went all the way to the final game

546
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 1: of the finals that was a five game series and

547
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 1: nearly pulled up a pulled off a historic upset to

548
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Speaker 1: win a championship. So ten years later, here will history

549
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 1: repeat itself. The Stephanie White leed Indie Na Fever are

550
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: trying to go back against all odds to the WNBA Finals,

551
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Speaker 1: and they'll do so with a win tonight out in

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas.

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Speaker 3: Well, I commend you, Pat, for the early wake up call. Now,

554
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 3: how's the play and the rest of the day. Do

555
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 3: we just go Joe after Joe after Joe in the

556
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Speaker 3: cup the rest of the day or are are we

557
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 3: napping it? I mean, nine thirty is no joke on

558
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Speaker 3: a Tuesday night.

559
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, we can't risk not being able to stay up

560
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Speaker 1: for the game. So I think I've got a nap

561
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Speaker 1: in me. At some point. Do have a couple of

562
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Speaker 1: you know, Pacers, as you know, right around the corner,

563
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 1: So I actually have a couple of Pacers meetings after this.

564
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Speaker 1: But at some point I'm going to try to sneak

565
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Speaker 1: that nap in because need to be alert for the

566
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: BEG game tonight.

567
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Speaker 3: Indeed, the first turning camp practice for the Pacers coming

568
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,239
Speaker 3: up later today. Pat Boyling of course with us here

569
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 3: in the payloss stickers hotline. All right, Pat, the obvious

570
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 3: is clear. In game four, you saw Eliah Boston, Kelsey Mitchell.

571
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 3: They played like the all stars that they are if

572
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 3: I removed them from these storylines for tonight. James brought

573
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 3: up Odyssey Sims in Game four. I kind of get

574
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 3: Lance Stevenson viz. From her some really good some other

575
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 3: nights I'm like, oh boy, where would you point to again,

576
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 3: non Mitchell, non Boston for storylines tonight.

577
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Ottessey Sims and Lexi Hole are probably

578
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: the next two players that jump out to me.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: The thing that just stood out the most to me

581
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Speaker 1: was the Fever were in game four of a WNBA

582
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Speaker 1: semi finals with a chance to move one game away

583
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Speaker 1: from getting to the finals, and Odyssey Sims is not

584
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 1: just running point guard, but I mean she's making plays.

585
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: And another player that was out there Brianna Turner. She's

586
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: been on the roster all season, but she had a

587
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Speaker 1: couple months stretch where she wasn't playing at all, and

588
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: yet these two are on the floor. Imagine saying that

589
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year. It would have been

590
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Speaker 1: really hard to believe. It's just kind of a great

591
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: example of the next woman up mentality in the resiliency

592
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: that this team has shown. So those two players, Odyssey

593
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: Simmons and Lexi Hull probably stand out the most to me.

594
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 1: You know, it seems like when Hull has a good game,

595
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: the Fever almost always win. She's always impactsful defensively. So

596
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: what I'm referencing here is when she has a good

597
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 1: offensive game because that defense travels for her and is

598
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 1: consistent night in the night out. And then the other

599
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 1: maybe bigger picture thing that jumps out to me is

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Speaker 1: just the Fever's ability to get into the paint. You know,

601
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: Asia Wilson is not just the MVP, but she's also

602
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: the defensive player of the year. And if you look

603
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 1: at this series so far and Indiana's wins forty six

604
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: points per game in the paint and their losses thirty

605
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: four points per game in the paint, that's a significant difference.

606
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: And not just because you know, scoring in around the

607
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: rim is of course important in of itself, but also

608
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: I think the ability to attack and get inside and

609
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 1: get paint touches also sets up your three point shooting,

610
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Speaker 1: and that's really important as well. So I think you

611
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: look at that points in the paint number at the

612
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: end of today and I think what that looks like

613
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: might be indicative of the results and who ultimately comes

614
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 1: away with the win.

615
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Speaker 4: Pat Boylan joining us here on the Paylott Slickers hotline

616
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Speaker 4: in his Dulcet Tones according to jeff Ricords, so I

617
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 4: had to look up at what that word meant, but

618
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 4: it is very confimentary of you and your ability on

619
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Speaker 4: you know, the airways with the one thing I wanted

620
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 4: to kind of look at when it comes to this team.

621
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Speaker 4: I know we kind of pivot away from Aliah Boston

622
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 4: and Kelsey Mitchell to start this conversation, but going back

623
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Speaker 4: to Aliah, how impressed have you been with her effort

624
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 4: on both ends? When you're going to just a great player,

625
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 4: they're gonna get theirs, but to be going tip for

626
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 4: tap with Asia Wilson, what do you think that says

627
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Speaker 4: about the growth we've seen from Aliah Boston.

628
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Speaker 1: Well, that's exactly it, James, and I think it is

629
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Speaker 1: maybe the biggest individual storyline of this series is that

630
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Speaker 1: there have been a couple of games where Aliah Boston

631
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Speaker 1: has gone, you know, even with the league's MVP, and

632
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Speaker 1: the Fever have won those games. They look Game one,

633
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: I think she only had six points, but that didn't

634
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: even begin to describe her impact. She had double digit rebounds,

635
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: was fantastic on Wilson defensively, and Wilson had probably the

636
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: worst night of the playoffs so far and maybe if

637
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: her entire season and the reason the Fever won that game,

638
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: to me, like Kelsey Mitchell was spectacular in that game,

639
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: but I almost point to Aliah Boston in game one

640
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: equally just because of her defensive impact on Asia Wilson.

641
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Speaker 1: Then fast forward to game number four on Sunday here

642
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: at the Fieldhouse, and you're right. I mean, those two

643
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: played almost exactly even. And when you can play even

644
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: the MVP, to me, that sets everything else up for success.

645
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: I think the other good thing from the Fever standpoint is,

646
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Speaker 1: you know, unlike game number one, Wilson was great in

647
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: game number four, Boston just you know, essentially matched her

648
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: a few less points but more rebounds. But I think

649
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: it was good for the Fever to win a game

650
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: where Asia Wilson was on her a game because I

651
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: think it just showed them, you know that if game

652
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Speaker 1: five goes a similar way where I mean, this is

653
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Speaker 1: what tends to happen in these do or die games

654
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Speaker 1: in the history of Bolden WNBA and the NBA. The

655
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,959
Speaker 1: star players tend to take over the MVPs act like MVPs,

656
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: So realistically, you're probably not holding Asia Wilson to something

657
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: like eleven points here tonight. But the Fever showed themselves

658
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: on Sunday that Wilson can score thirty and they can

659
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: still win. And I think that's important too. So you

660
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: know the answer your question on Aleiah she has been

661
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: as young as she is just in her third year

662
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: of her career, she has been so spectacular, I think

663
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: just from a poise and an efficiency perspective, if nothing else,

664
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Speaker 1: she brings so much to the game. And you know,

665
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: it's amazing to watch what she's doing at such a

666
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: young age. You know, people don't realize she's only a

667
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: few months older than Caitlin Clark. Now, she was drafted

668
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: a year ahead, but in terms of her age, she's

669
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: still one of the youngest players in the league. And

670
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: that you know, can't be set aside and looking at

671
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: everything that she's doing here so far, because when you

672
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: watch her, she doesn't appear like a young player, but

673
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: she still really is a very young player in this

674
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: league and still growing, but performing at a very high

675
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: level already.

676
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 2: You know, to take that one step further too, I've

677
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 2: been making this contention all along. If you took a

678
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 2: Leah Boston and Kelsey Mitchell put them on any team

679
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 2: in a WWBA, that's a heck of a couple of

680
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,959
Speaker 2: pillars to build a team. Around, and as great as

681
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 2: these role players have been at stepping up and doing

682
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 2: a lot more than we ever expected them to do,

683
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,719
Speaker 2: those two could start for just I mean, that's as

684
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,479
Speaker 2: good a do as there is in the league, isn't there?

685
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean no question. I think Kelsey Mitchell is

686
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: going to be first team All WNBA, and I think

687
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: Aleah Boston has a good shot at being second team

688
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: All WNBA. And if that happens, you're talking about two

689
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: of the top ten individual seasons in the league this

690
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: year being on the fever. And it's especially remarkable to

691
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: say that sentence and to not be talking about Caitlin Clark,

692
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: who of course won't make it only because she's been injured.

693
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: But Clark in her rookie year was on first team

694
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Speaker 1: All WNBA and finished fourth in the MVP. And now

695
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: you start to say some of that and you start

696
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: to think, you know, man, what could be possible here

697
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: in the future or even this year if you had

698
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: Clark And it really makes you, you know, lament that

699
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,719
Speaker 1: injury some it's been so frustrating not to have her

700
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: on the floor, But I think I think this run

701
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: has been good to show that, look, there's no doubt

702
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: the Fever need Caitlin Clark to reach their ceiling. She's

703
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: a spectacular player, and ultimately, you know, to win the

704
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: championships that I think this franchise will, they'll need Caitlin

705
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: Clark on the floor to do that. But I think

706
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: it's been a great show and a great spotlight for

707
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: Kelsey Mitchell and Aleiah Boston because there are still really

708
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: good players on this team not named Caitlin Clark. And

709
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: I think especially in these scenarios, you know, there's a

710
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: lot of pressure on those two because when you have

711
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: this many injuries, your margin for error is just so

712
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: so slim. You have to have your all stars play

713
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: well because you just don't have the normal bodies that

714
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: you typically have. I think it's a major key tonight.

715
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: It's an obvious one, which is you know, like Kevin

716
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: kind of said those two as we began the conversation,

717
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: but it's a massive key, but it's an important one.

718
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: Your all stars have to play like all stars when

719
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: you are this shorthanded in your margins for air is

720
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: what it is. And I think you know what Kelsey

721
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: Mitchell and Aleah Boston have done for this team, especially

722
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: considering the circumstances has been, in my opinion, one of

723
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: the great storylines, not just in the WNBA this year,

724
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: but really in all of sports.

725
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 2: Last thing for me, Pat, with all the discussion around

726
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 2: the league and the officiating this year, what's your worry

727
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 2: quotient like that we'll be talking about officials as much

728
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 2: as we are talking about great play tomorrow after this

729
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 2: game five?

730
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I hope not. I hope that's not the case.

731
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: I guess I haven't really thought of it in a

732
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: in a quotient perspective. You know, it has become a storyline,

733
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: no question of the playoffs this year, and you know,

734
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,239
Speaker 1: maybe centered around other teams a little bit more than

735
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: the fever. You know, I think you hope that you

736
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: have a game where the officials, especially in a game

737
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: by the do or die type situation. You know, I

738
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: just always hope the officials, any coach will ask you

739
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: that tell you that they just want things called evenly,

740
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: and when you get into these do or die one

741
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: game to take the whole thing type of scenarios, I

742
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: always feel like the best way to officiate games like

743
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: that are to let the players play and to not

744
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: be sending players constantly to the foul line. And if

745
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: you can do that and call it even and let

746
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: the superstars on the floor determine the outcome of the

747
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 1: game by not shooting free throws. I always think that's

748
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: in everyone's best interest. It's got a huge spotlight tonight,

749
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 1: you know, because it's been such a topic of conversation.

750
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: I hope not. I'm cautiously optimistic there that we will

751
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 1: be talking tomorrow, you know, hopefully about what Kelsey Mitchell

752
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 1: and Aliah Boston did and unquestionably Asia Wilson and Jackie

753
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 1: Young and listen, there's four Olympic gold medalists on that

754
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: Las veg Facis team, so they're really, really good. I

755
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: sure hope that's the storyline that we're talking about at

756
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: the end of the day. I obviously I hope the

757
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: Fever win. I obviously hope we're talking about a trip

758
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: to the WNBA Finals. But at the end of the day,

759
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: I really hope we're talking about what these individual players

760
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: did to ultimately force the outcome that happens.

761
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 3: And watch it.

762
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 4: Pat, De'll find you.

763
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 2: Coming after Pat boiling next. Yeah, get some rest, buddy,

764
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 2: We'll talk to you soon. Thank you so much. For

765
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 2: joining us this morning.

766
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: Thanks pay great to be on with you guys. Happy

767
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: to come on any time.

768
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 2: Just point out the text on is all on board

769
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 2: with the Reds Kevin Bowen. Matt c says KB. The

770
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 2: Reds will be playing next weekend as well. How about that?

771
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,720
Speaker 3: Let's go Yeah, And it was pointed out too, Pacers

772
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 3: do have a preseason home game with the Thunder next Saturday, Sandwich,

773
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 3: to believe, you know, right after a game for the Fever.

774
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 3: So don't want to make don't want to put preseason

775
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 3: basketball yet in the same breath as the other stuff,

776
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 3: but nonetheless could be a very will be, could be

777
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 3: an uber busy weekend here.

778
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 4: I don't want to have my game made to me

779
00:35:59,000 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 4: best of nine.

780
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 3: Then we have a summer league game Pacers Thunder. This

781
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 3: is true, but I think.

782
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 4: They think the lost that on a run over. Going

783
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 4: to re erase that from the memory.

784
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 3: I wanted to make sure we stuck this in from Aaron.

785
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 3: I thought she pointed this out really well. We were

786
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 3: talking with Pat boylan Uh Natasha Howard tonight, James, I

787
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 3: know the other Howard right now in the city. We

788
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 3: can maybe get to of Xavier and Howard with the Colts.

789
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 3: But you think back to not only game one of

790
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 3: this series, Howard was very good, but that clinching game

791
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 3: in Atlanta, she stepped up as well in that game.

792
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 3: I get that she might be walking up one of

793
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 3: the final few holes of her very illustrious career. But

794
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 3: she has certainly been used to environments like tonight, unlike

795
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 3: probably a lot, frankly of the Fever players, So that

796
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 3: is worth pointing out.

797
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 2: I think as well, I would think she and Kelsey

798
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 2: Mitchell really value this game five tonight just because they've

799
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 2: been around for a while. All the value of no

800
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 2: but you know what I'm saying, like they truly appreciate

801
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 2: the gift of how rare this opportunity is. Where some

802
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 2: of the younger players might.

803
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 4: Not push back a little there, Jevin, I agree with

804
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 4: your sentiment, but I think Kelsey Mitchell is still young

805
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 4: from a playoff perspective. She hasn't been here before. Like

806
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 4: you know, we look at the Tasha Howard. She's one

807
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 4: Championships before, so she knows how hard it is to

808
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 4: win games like this, and so yeah, perhaps she can

809
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 4: give a little of that confidence to the rest of

810
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 4: the group. And you know this is someone who stepped

811
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 4: up previously. Like you said in the Atlanta Dream series.

812
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 4: We saw in the Commissioner's Cup final that she can

813
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 4: have those sorts of nights, which turns back the clock

814
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 4: and looks like the number one option. And so I'm

815
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 4: not saying she has to be up tonight. I think

816
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 4: Kelsey Mitchell and Leah Boston will certainly carry a lot

817
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 4: of that workload. But if you can get a big

818
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 4: night from Ntasha Howard, that would be big, especially if

819
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 4: she can outplay someone like Melissa Smith, who I think

820
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 4: has had a pretty good series so far.

821
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 2: Mark, you are quite the topic of conversation throughout the

822
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 2: text line this morning. Dan wants to know how are

823
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 2: your five screens organized by sports? Are they random? What

824
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 2: is the setup over there?

825
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 7: One is the streaming camera, two are for running the show,

826
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 7: and then the other three are engineer.

827
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 2: I don't touch those, So six right.

828
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 4: Plus a television.

829
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 2: It's a television.

830
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 7: It's like eighteen inches.

831
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 2: There you go. The more you know, people have to know.

832
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 2: My buddy Brett wants to know. Can't remember if the

833
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 2: pass play for the eight eight yard touchdown for the

834
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 2: Rams was down the Cult sideline or not, But just

835
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 2: out of curiosity. Could somebody have actually jumped into the

836
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 2: play from the sideline had that been legal? Get that

837
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 2: eleventh guy down there in the middle of the play.

838
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 4: I think they just drew you as a touchdown at

839
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 4: that point. I think they can actually do that.

840
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, gracious, they don't hate to add you though. No,

841
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 2: I don't know either. Quite some time, the Cults try

842
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 2: to put it all behind them and get ready for

843
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 2: the Las Vegas Raiders and Kevin My memory gets to

844
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 2: be a bit foggy with games blending into each other.

845
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 2: But haven't the Raiders proved problematic for this team at

846
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 2: home over the past when they have faced them, like

847
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 2: three four years ago?

848
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 3: I don't I know, Derek Carr if I remember correctly

849
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 3: beat them late in the twenty one season, that was

850
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 3: right for the Jacksonville game. I think I was kind

851
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 3: of a heavy COVID game. I think Colts won in

852
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 3: Arizona on Christmas, lost a game to get in the

853
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 3: postseason with the Raiders, and then and I want to

854
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 3: say that was like interim head coach and then I

855
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 3: think then they lost to Jacksonville that week seventeen. But

856
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 3: I remember that they beat eight and O'Connell late in

857
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 3: the season a few years ago. So it does seem

858
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 3: like they show up pretty annually on the schedule. Here

859
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 3: this text from Dan James, I'll throw a year away.

860
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 3: Dan says, this is Xaviant Howard and Ady Mitchell are

861
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 3: suited up on Sunday. You have to question the accountability

862
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 3: of the staff. Fair statement.

863
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 4: Yes, I think it's a very fair statement. I'll probably

864
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 4: lean suit it up or just not playing like what

865
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm fine if they're active, but don't play

866
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 4: like I mean, if you're a healthy SAT Yeah, I mean,

867
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 4: if you're not playing or not playing we can get

868
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 4: into the semantics of it all and you know who's

869
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 4: actually officially on the roster for game day. But if

870
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 4: they're not playing, I'm totally fine with that. I think

871
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 4: he Zavin Howard is probably unplayable at this point. He

872
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 4: has been bad the first month of the season. I

873
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 4: think he's getting exposed more, especially against teams that really

874
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 4: have a couple of different receivers that can throw at you, because,

875
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 4: I mean, what is the value of having Shavaria's ward

876
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 4: If you know, okay, well we'll just throw wherever the

877
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 4: other guy is and we'll still be able to move

878
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 4: the ball. So that's a big blow. And then Adie

879
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 4: Mitchell again, you aren't focused enough to have earned our trust.

880
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 4: And through his first two seasons, I would honestly argue,

881
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 4: and I don't think it's a hard argument to make

882
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 4: that he has been more negative than positive for this

883
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 4: football team. So they set him down for a game

884
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 4: flood to know, Hey, whatever you're doing and gonna fly here,

885
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 4: you gotta earn it. As Shasta Can alluded to, I'll

886
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 4: be okay with that. The benching will be warranted. And

887
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 4: again for the ump team's time, people keep telling me, hey,

888
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 4: well j T fumbled, he did the same thing as

889
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 4: Adie Mitchell. Why I don't think it's the same punishment,

890
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 4: you know, if JT didn't get bnched and watched Adi

891
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 4: Mitchell get benched. Because in the real world, old people

892
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 4: do not get treated equally, they get treated fairly. I think,

893
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 4: you know, you ask any coach in America how to

894
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 4: use sports, You're not gonna treat you're a star player

895
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 4: the same as you would a four string wide receiver.

896
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 4: That's just not reality. And so I also was, you know,

897
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,919
Speaker 4: getting this question a lot yesterday and even sometime today

898
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,439
Speaker 4: off the YouTube chat and in some of our text line,

899
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 4: it's like, well, you know who gets grace and who doesn't.

900
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 4: The players who've earned it. JT earned grace, Adie Mitchell

901
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 4: has not.

902
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree wholeheartedly on that. Market's go ahead

903
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 3: and play this. This was Shane second yesterday in regards

904
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 3: to where things are at with Xavier and Howard and

905
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 3: his status.

906
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 5: Like I said, he's been a really good player in

907
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 5: this league for a long time. You know, we got

908
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 5: to do a better job looking at different things and

909
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 5: you know, helping them in certain situations. Just he is

910
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 5: a talented player, but you know we got to improve

911
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 5: in some areas for sure.

912
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 3: What do you guys make of that?

913
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 2: Again, fairly typicult non answer, But they keep sticking to him,

914
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 2: And what I hear is they're just gonna keep putting

915
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 2: him out there, is what it sounded like.

916
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 4: Actually, you go ahead, Mark, he's been.

917
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 2: A good player.

918
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 3: He is he's been.

919
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 4: That is a good distinction you've made. And I actually

920
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 4: go the other way, Jeff, I think dealing with the

921
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 4: years of Shane Stykeen, I think that he obviously doesn't

922
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 4: say much, but there's a little there to at least

923
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 4: suggest that they're thinking about making a change, and he

924
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 4: won't come out and say it. And a lot of

925
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 4: that fan fairness to him and other coaches, they usually

926
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 4: will protect their player. They're not gonna just come out

927
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 4: on the first day and say, hey, we're benching this guy,

928
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 4: re cutting them. He's just no good, He's terrible. But

929
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 4: that last part we got to look at some things.

930
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 4: I think that is actually a very serious statement from

931
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 4: Shane Steikeen.

932
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm with you there, James. You know

933
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 3: what he says, we have to help him out. I'm

934
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 3: kind of a little bit like, oh boy, does that

935
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 3: mean that they're still going to play him and then

936
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 3: whatever contribute more help to him. Frankly, he should have

937
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 3: had help on fourth and two on Sunday that left

938
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 3: him out there in man against Pukuakua on that play. Again,

939
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 3: I'll go back to what I said earlier. I think

940
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 3: if I was lou Ana Arumo, what would really really

941
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 3: be bothersome with Xavier and Howard is not just he's

942
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 3: allowing an insane amount of production to opposing offenses. Obviously

943
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 3: that speaks for itself, but I see questionable effort once

944
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 3: these catches are being made, and where are the good

945
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,720
Speaker 3: plays in coverage? Again, corner is one of those positions

946
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,439
Speaker 3: in the NFL where you're naturally gonna have some bad

947
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 3: By no means are you expecting perfect Patrick? Certain you

948
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 3: watched him in week two. The Colts got him a

949
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 3: few times. You watch Patrick Patrick's curtain last night. There

950
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 3: wasn't much getting him at all. Like that that happens

951
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 3: with corners. With Howard so far, there's no good in coverage,

952
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 3: there's no play making, nothing to offset it. So again

953
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 3: that would be bothered him.

954
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 2: Now, what do you do?

955
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 5: You know?

956
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 3: Obviously Kenny Moore's injury situation will be one to watch

957
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 3: here in week five. I think if Kenny is out again,

958
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 3: James to me, you go with Taverius Ward, You go

959
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 3: with Mike Hilton in the slot, and then probably Makai Blackman,

960
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 3: who they traded for with Minnesota. He did fall down

961
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 3: on the two two at well touchdown there, I assume

962
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 3: that would be the three. I would be open minded

963
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 3: to giving Jonathan Edwards a chance though, and that's the

964
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 3: undrafted free agent out of Indio Sat before he went

965
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,479
Speaker 3: to Tulane. There we're still I think one week away

966
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 3: from Jalen Jones being eligible to come off injured reserve,

967
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 3: he would definitely be one that I would look at.

968
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 3: But again we're still one week away there, so that's

969
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 3: kind of how I view corner heading into week five.

970
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 2: Larger question comes from Kevin Ka on the text line

971
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 2: at two through nine ten seventy says, I still want

972
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 2: to know where this incredibly clever new defense is. All

973
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 2: I see is vanilla dia. As always, we can't stop anyone. Uugh,

974
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 2: is that too simplistic a question? Or do we need

975
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 2: to see more on lou Ana Romo's stuff.

976
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 3: I would disagree.

977
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll probably disagree with that. I mean, it took

978
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 4: me a lot of response just because I'm going over

979
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 4: to my head, like, I think that's a typical frustrated

980
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 4: response after a game.

981
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 3: A ninety six yard drive you can point to. And

982
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 3: I learned a lot of this as Gus Brattle like,

983
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 3: I can hear that. But no, I think they have

984
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 3: definitely disguised more. They've definitely done things that are not

985
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 3: just strictly vanilla simple Gus Bradley's ways. Again, it's not

986
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 3: going to be perfect, but you know, James, I thought

987
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 3: one of the more better disguises. That could have been

988
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 3: a huge play in the game was early on that

989
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 3: first third or one of those first third downs, when

990
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 3: ziare Franklin, you know, has a ball thrown right right

991
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 3: to him. Matthew Stafford never saw him, you know, he

992
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 3: thought he was coming. I think on the blitz and

993
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 3: Zire drops back and boom, Stafford, you know, throws it

994
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 3: right to him. So I would disagree on that.

995
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: A lot of questions from people about the Colts will

996
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 2: be talking about it all week long here as they

997
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 2: get ready for the Vegas Raiders. Still to say Vegas Raiders,

998
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 2: Vegas Los Angeles? Who knows? Who knows that there'll be

999
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: five years from now? They just they just bop around

1000
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 2: the West Coast, see it. I'll go maybe they'll end

1001
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 2: up being a third team Los Angeles before it's all

1002
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 2: said and done.

1003
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 8: But man, have you been out to the stadium in Vegas, James,

1004
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 8: I have to sta yeah, I still won the award

1005
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 8: for best award he's ever gotten in his life, or

1006
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 8: best president he's ever gotten in his life to watch

1007
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 8: the Raiders play.

1008
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 4: No, actually we didn't go watch the game. It was

1009
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 4: for like an awards ceremony. Uh yeah, I had a

1010
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 4: one A Journalism award and the awards ceremony was in Vegas.

1011
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 3: I took my dad.

1012
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 4: This was all right three or four years ago, this

1013
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 4: before I worked in the NFL, and we went and

1014
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 4: UH tour. It was right before it opened up actually,

1015
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 4: because I remember when we toured it, they told us

1016
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 4: not to on any of the seats because they hadn't

1017
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 4: been set in yet by any of the real fans.

1018
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 4: These bad boys out I got to make sure they're

1019
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 4: up to code. But the place is I mean, it

1020
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 4: is beautiful. It was one of the cooler UH tours

1021
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 4: that we got. And then we went into the locker room.

1022
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 4: They did a hologram of John Gruden where he would

1023
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 4: like he probably put a hologram and gave us his

1024
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 4: big old speech about you know, basically as we were

1025
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 4: going out.

1026
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 3: There to play.

1027
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 2: I can't tell you excited right now?

1028
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 3: That was That was great?

1029
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 2: That was really good. Where did that come from?

1030
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 3: You working on that?

1031
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,720
Speaker 4: No any talents?

1032
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 3: So yeah, I have been there.

1033
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 4: It's a beautiful place to.

1034
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 3: Play, big guy.

1035
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 2: Great job and winning that award there.

1036
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 7: I'm Ravy run Spider two White Banana. If you don't mind.

1037
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 3: Go on and get out there.

1038
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:32,760
Speaker 2: Let's touch some brass.

1039
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 3: Excellent. Oh he needs the Chucky doll and you're good.

1040
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 2: Spaing at Crudens. Whatever happened to Jay Gruden? Is he

1041
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 2: still in the league? Is he still working for somebody somewhere?

1042
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 2: I don't anybody know. I got nothing on Jacab I

1043
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 2: don't remember. Just kind of went away with the rest

1044
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 2: of that commander's whole group a few years ago. I

1045
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 2: don't know what happened on that. But yeah, it'll be

1046
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 2: coming up Sunday afternoon one o'clock. The Las Vegas Raiders

1047
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 2: and the Indianapolis Colts a chance to win their fourth

1048
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 2: of their first five. And I think we've talked about

1049
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 2: this a lot yesterday, Kevin. Anybody that's a fan would

1050
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 2: have signed up for that on August the fifteenth.

1051
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 3: Well percent, yeah, I think I had four and two

1052
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 3: at the start, so obviously I didn't have four and one. Well,

1053
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 3: I guess I think I had at this point two

1054
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 3: and two. I believe I think I had lost this

1055
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 3: to Denver in the rams here mark that line for

1056
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 3: Sunday six and a half. Does that sound right? Now?

1057
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 3: That's what it was last night.

1058
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 7: I checked, So yeah, it's almost up to a touchdown

1059
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:26,399
Speaker 7: favorite for the coach.

1060
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 3: I believe I'd have to check this. I believe that

1061
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 3: would be the second biggest favorite they've been under Shane Steichen.

1062
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 3: So you think about that, this is Shane Steiken's what

1063
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 3: thirty ninth game is colds head coach two seasons plus

1064
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 3: four games and this will be the fifth game. So

1065
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 3: the second biggest favorite under Stike In good news, when

1066
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 3: they have been favored, they've won quite often under Shane.

1067
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 3: I guess the bad news is the time they were

1068
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 3: the biggest favorite, they did lose to the Giants. So

1069
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 3: if anyone cares about betting lines and how those could

1070
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 3: impact the game, that's what the cults are looking like

1071
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 3: right now on Sunday, the second biggest favorite of any

1072
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 3: game in the Stiking era.

1073
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 7: Fourth highest point, fourth highest spread of Week five in

1074
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 7: the NFL, among all games.

1075
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 3: You know, Smith awful. On Sunday, Ashton Gents changed up

1076
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 3: his stance to his Boise State days and finally ripped

1077
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 3: off a couple of big ones. Max Crosby's really good

1078
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 3: at football. No one can name a Raiders wide out,

1079
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 3: and Brock Bauers is we have a tight end matchup

1080
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 3: to Circle this week, and they lost their left tackle

1081
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 3: late in that game and he's been their starter for years.

1082
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 3: So there's your one minute synopsis.

1083
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 7: On the I am curious how Max Crosby and the

1084
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 7: Colts offensive line are going to match up because he

1085
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 7: was just flying around. He was, I mean, it didn't

1086
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 7: matter where. He was lining up every side of the

1087
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 7: field against the Bears, so he'll be curious how the

1088
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 7: offensive line handles him.

1089
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 3: The Colts have done you again. This is kind of

1090
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,439
Speaker 3: an annual matchup to what we were just talking about

1091
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 3: earlier Colts and Raiders. The Colts have actually done only

1092
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 3: decent job on Crosby. I want to say he only

1093
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 3: has one sack in his career and that's like four

1094
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 3: or five games, which you know, considering who he is.

1095
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 3: But this will probably be something I get to a

1096
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 3: lot here throughout the week as we get closer to

1097
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 3: talking Colts and Raiders. Something I would just like to

1098
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 3: see from the Colts. When you play elite talents and

1099
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 3: Max Crosby might hear his name in Campton one day.

1100
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 3: Don't let these players add to their Hall of Fame

1101
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 3: highlight reel like Pooka Nakua his team. They need to

1102
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 3: go back and edit the highlight reel for a couple

1103
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 3: of those ones to add Colts plays into it. That's

1104
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 3: my issue, James with some of these these are great talents,

1105
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 3: but like, why not just have Puka have an average

1106
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 3: day against you? It still would be good from a

1107
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 3: number standpoint, But Pooka had the best day of his

1108
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 3: career against the Colts. You know, for gent Or Bowers

1109
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 3: or Crosby. I mean there are some individually uber talented

1110
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 3: players on the Raiders team, three of them probably, and

1111
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 3: then they fall off I think majorly really after that.

1112
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 3: Don't let them add to it. Think of the Cleveland

1113
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 3: game few years ago, Like Miles Garrett just single handedly

1114
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 3: took that game over. You know, how about just a

1115
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 3: pedestrian game. You know, Week one you did that with

1116
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill. You did a really nice job of keeping

1117
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 3: him just probably below average honestly for him. That's I

1118
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 3: think what I would ask for out of the Colts.

1119
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 3: He you're coming up this week, Yeah, that's what they

1120
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 3: need to do.

1121
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 2: Don't let the best players just run right all over you.

1122
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 2: And so we'll see what happens Sunday afternoon at one

1123
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 2: o'clock as the Colts try to contain. Are we worried

1124
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 2: about the a Pete Carroll team? I know Gino Smith

1125
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 2: wasn't terrific in his last at, but we worried that

1126
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll still knows how to bring a game plan.

1127
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 4: I'm not too worried about it. I mean, obviously he's

1128
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 4: a very good coach, a Super Bowl winning coach. But

1129
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 4: at the same time, they're devoid of a lot of

1130
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 4: talent over there. So from a talent standpoint, you have

1131
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 4: more of that than them, And I would argue that

1132
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 4: the Colts, outside of what we saw this Sunday, have

1133
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 4: been a pretty good and well coached team. So even

1134
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 4: from just a penalty standpoint, can you clean some of

1135
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 4: that stuff up to make sure that you're, you know,

1136
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 4: not giving away yards against the Raiders?

1137
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 7: Can neither any of you name a single Raiders wide

1138
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,280
Speaker 7: receiver right now, probably like Chickob Meyers, Tray Turner, Okay,

1139
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 7: there you go, Well, Trey Tucker, Trey Tucker, I'm sorry, Yeah,

1140
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 7: Trey Turner is a solid shortstop though.

1141
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 3: Yes, who's older Belichick or Carrol?

1142
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 2: Ella Cheryl?

1143
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, I just say Pete Carroll, right, He's in his.

1144
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 3: Pete Carroll just turned seventy four. Yeah, he's definitely a

1145
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago.

1146
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 2: Bill seventy three.

1147
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:37,720
Speaker 3: Bella check will be seventy four in April, so Pete's

1148
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 3: got him by about six months.

1149
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 2: He still looks like he's only sixty though, Pete.

1150
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 3: Carroll, Yeah, well look at what Belichick's looks have gotten

1151
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 3: him lately.

1152
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's worn out because he's doing all these TikTok dances.

1153
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 2: Now, that might be the only reason he's worn out.

1154
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 2: Mark WHOA, jeez, man, I was just talking about the

1155
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 2: heavy study and football.

1156
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 3: That's not really leading to success on the field.

1157
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,280
Speaker 2: Man man uh text line pointing out that Jeff Saturday

1158
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 2: got his first win against Vegas.

1159
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 3: I forgot about that first and only right, Yeah, Jonathan Taylor,

1160
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 3: if I remember correctly, James had a big run in

1161
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 3: that game.

1162
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 2: He was bawling.

1163
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 4: I remember after that game, I'm talking to Grover Steward

1164
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 4: in the locker room and he told me all this

1165
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 4: commotion going on with all these coaching chains and they

1166
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 4: got the whim and only.

1167
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 3: So with Grover. If you're gonna do your Grover, I

1168
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 3: can't do it.

1169
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 4: His voice is too deep my voice can't go that low.

1170
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 2: You can do the southern accent.

1171
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 7: That was a great effort that I think the last

1172
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 7: time the Raiders were here, Kevin and I participated in

1173
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 7: a little shrimp beating contest.

1174
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 2: Is that correct?

1175
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 3: Is that the last time? No? So? Mark actually was

1176
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 3: there one cross my email I meant to send this

1177
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 3: to you, So like my Gmail is like filled up.

1178
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 3: They're like, hey, clean up space or whatever, and so

1179
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 3: I like go to the link where it says like, hey,

1180
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 3: these are your largest files. I need to find it

1181
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 3: and send it to you. Mark my game across I'm

1182
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,240
Speaker 3: getting choked up thinking about eating the same almost shrimp.

1183
00:53:58,120 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 3: I came across the video of you and I and

1184
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 3: shrimpeedy contest.

1185
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:01,439
Speaker 2: Mark.

1186
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 3: That was the day of the Raiders actually winning here

1187
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 3: with Derek Carr. That started the twenty twenty one collapse.

1188
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 3: People are saying, this is what people are saying that

1189
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 3: you and I started the Carson Wentz collapse.

1190
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:18,919
Speaker 2: It was our fall.

1191
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 3: Colt's lost at home against an interim head coach. If

1192
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 3: I remember correctly, with the Raiders, if you win that game,

1193
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 3: you're in the playoffs. So then you had to go

1194
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 3: to Jacksonville and win the week eighteen game to get

1195
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 3: in and then you lose that. I gotta send you

1196
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 3: this video marked in one. By the way, the championship

1197
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 3: built is in the office. I should grab it in

1198
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 3: the break quarry fake COVID mark filled in.

1199
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 7: And you cheated too, because all of a sudden, we're

1200
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 7: about to start and plot like a jug of milk.

1201
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 4: Like Joey Chessman told me, I'm.

1202
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 3: Like, what is this illegal drugs? That was impressive preparation

1203
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 3: by going thank you Jeff again, Jeff coming to my

1204
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 3: accurate defense here. There is no cheating. That was simply planning.

1205
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 3: I was like the European Ryder Cup team plannin ahead

1206
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 3: and you lost anyway.

1207
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 7: Wow, quite handedly by my estimation,