1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: So Trump is alive and he blew something up. 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, he actually addressed the question about him being alive 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 2: because it was asked. Yeah, leave it to Peter Doocey 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 2: to give him those fun questions. 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: Are you dead? 6 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 3: No, I'm not dead. 7 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: You know who is Daddy? Tad? 8 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 4: Tad died, I'm still here. Dad died, kay Zy Dad died. 9 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: Lincoln was sad. 10 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 4: So he, along with Pete hegseth names. 11 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 3: They didn't call it depression. They called it melancholy. Lynn Cally, 12 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 3: did you see that photo of Ted? He was so 13 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 3: small and he died. Go ahead, sorry. 14 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 2: They also even when I saw the video of stuff 15 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 2: being thrown out the window at the White House, which 16 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: he answered that question as well. I thought, is that 17 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: the picture of Tad I'm thrown out the window? No? 18 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,959 Speaker 1: No, not Ted Tidy pictured. 19 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: Well, they announced that US military forces conducted a strike 20 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 2: against Trende Ragua Necho Narco. 21 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 5: Terror Oh that's anark of this area. Yeah, they got 22 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 5: the Narco terrorists. So there's a video of this that 23 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 5: Hexim put up, and it's amazing if you haven't seen 24 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 5: it to actually watch them like explode this. 25 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 1: But I mean, it's just like you. 26 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 5: See it coming right, you know obviously how it ends, 27 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 5: and you're just watching for whatever twenty or thirty seconds 28 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 5: while they're hovering over the target and then good day, 29 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:22,839 Speaker 5: sir yep. 30 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 4: So, the strike occurred. 31 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 2: While the terrorists were at sea in international waters. They 32 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 2: were transporting illegal narcotics. They were headed to the US, 33 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: and the strike resulted in eleven terrorists that were k IA. 34 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 5: And one of the things that I love about the 35 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 5: Trump and the Trump administration is they're calling people what 36 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 5: they are. 37 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: They're terrorists. 38 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 5: There are people who are trying to kill American citizens. 39 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 5: There are people who are trying to destroy the lives 40 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 5: of American citizens. They're people who are making money on 41 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 5: their terrorism, on their destruction of American citizens. 42 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: And their lives. 43 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 5: And good on them for saying what it is. This 44 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 5: is why we're using military force to take these people out, 45 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 5: because they're terrorists. 46 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Donald Trump was even naming names. He said 47 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 2: that they were operating under the control of Nicholas maduro 48 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 2: So and he said, let the service notice to anybody 49 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 2: else even thinking about bringing drugs into the United States. 50 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 4: Well, that's aware. 51 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's how you got to deal with these people. 52 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 5: That's how you have to deal with these people. You 53 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 5: have to fight fire with fire. You gotta fight force 54 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 5: with force. These people are trying to bring dangerous illegal 55 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 5: drugs into this country. They are killing people, are they 56 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 5: are having a huge factor in our economy. These people, 57 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 5: in many cases are using the money that they make 58 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 5: off selling drugs to help terrorism and terroristic activities. So 59 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 5: good on them, Good on them, A plus job. And 60 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 5: I loved watching that boat just blow up. 61 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 2: Another thing that happened was Donald Trump announced that US 62 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 2: Space Command Headquarters are going to move from Colorado Springs, 63 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 2: Colorado to Huntsville, Alabama. 64 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 6: It's a very important day and an important announcement with 65 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 6: great friends of mine. I think I can say this 66 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 6: group is every one of them I rate a ten. 67 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 7: I can't always say that even if they're. 68 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 6: Republicans, and these are Republicans, great Republicans. I want to 69 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 6: thank you all for being here for this important announcement 70 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 6: seven years. 71 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 7: In the making. As you know, this has been going 72 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 7: on for a. 73 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 6: Long period of time, and I am thrilled to report 74 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 6: that the US Space Command Headquarters will move to the 75 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 6: beautiful locale of a place called Huntsville, Alabama. 76 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: Okay, so nicknamed Rocket City, and of course that's where 77 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 2: the Redstone Arsenal is as well. 78 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 5: Now do we have the audio of him talking about 79 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 5: Tommy Tuberville? Yeah, we do, Okay, so this is hilarious. 80 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 5: And I don't know, with Trump, you never know. But 81 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 5: Tommy Tuberville was the coach at Auburn, which is obviously 82 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 5: in Alabama. He's a US senator now now from Alabama. 83 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 5: And Trump appears to forget or not know or whatever 84 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 5: that that Tommy Tuberville coached at Auburn because he's lamenting 85 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 5: the loss of Alabama football. And then they're like, that's 86 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 5: Alabama's arch rival is Auburn. It's a little game called 87 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 5: the Iron Bowl, mister President, and he gently gets reminded 88 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 5: that Tommy real coach at Auburn. 89 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 7: Ubberville, who's a great coach. 90 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 6: And I won't say anything about what happened with Alabama 91 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 6: football this weekend. But you're not you're not used to that. 92 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 6: You're not used to that. But Tommy Auburn won, So 93 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 6: you're happy. Tommy has been a great senators, you know, 94 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 6: and fantastic senator. 95 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 5: He's been there like nine hours and now he's leaving 96 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 5: to run for governor, sound familiar, sound like anybody we 97 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 5: know accomplished nothing. 98 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 4: No, actually it actually does sound like somebody we know. 99 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: It sure does. 100 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 5: Anyway, I just thought that was kind of funny that 101 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 5: he appeared to get the teams confused or something out 102 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 5: of it. 103 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 2: I know, I feel like he was just referencing that 104 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: Tubberville is from Alabama, and so he was saying, you know, 105 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: we won't mention what happened there. 106 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 3: Alabama's season is like tend it's danding's over, it's gone. 107 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: It's tiny and small. 108 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 2: Okay, So but we have to talk about they're moving 109 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 2: the US Space Command from Colorado now to Alabama. Why? 110 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 2: And there's been a lot Well, I think that's the question, 111 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 2: right because Trump had put it. Trump initially picked Huntsville, 112 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 2: and then Biden reversed it and said, no, We're going 113 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 2: to keep it in Colorado Springs. This is over concerns 114 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: over military readiness. And now Trump is saying, no, it's 115 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 2: going to Huntsville. 116 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 4: Is it? 117 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: Are we really determining our national security? Is it hinging 118 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: on zip codes? Is that what's going on? 119 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 5: Well, this would be the question is what is the 120 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 5: benefit of moving this other than he's clearly benefiting a 121 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 5: red state, a state that is now firmly Oh did 122 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 5: I step right into that? Did I go right where 123 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 5: you wanted me to? Gosey boy, I want to train professional, 124 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 5: I am. Look, I think that's the answer, right, is 125 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 5: that you see this happen quite a bit, especially under Trump, 126 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:31,239 Speaker 5: in which things move from blue states to red states. 127 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 5: Because I don't know if you know this casey Trump 128 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 5: has a bit of an ego, and he also remembers 129 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 5: who's helped him and who's not. And look, Trump made 130 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 5: his fortune dealing with the mafia. He knows how it works, right, 131 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 5: He's just basically an extension that, oh you don't want 132 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 5: to support. 133 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: Me, goodbye. 134 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 2: So currently the Colorado facilities they're fully operational. 135 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 4: So it's gonna take some ramping up. 136 00:06:58,360 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: You mean it's gonna cost us a lot of money? 137 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 4: Or cramping up? 138 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: It's gonna cost us a lot of money? 139 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 4: Is taxi Alabama? Sure? So the Colorado lawmakers. 140 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: They say that it would take necessary action to stop 141 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: the move and keep the headquarters in Colorado. 142 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: What does that mean, like I will take necessary. 143 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 4: Action, stomp our feet. 144 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: We don't like this very good, thank you? 145 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: Or maybe we just launched some space command in actual space. 146 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 5: Here here is a question I have for you, because 147 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 5: you came to us three and a half years ago 148 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 5: as a non political person in the sense of, like 149 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 5: pre this show, which you were warned about, in fairness, 150 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 5: you have no right to complain. 151 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: You can't ever bitch. 152 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 4: No, I no, I can't, that's my right. 153 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: No, you were Warren, I cannot vote and still complain 154 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 2: about the results. 155 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 5: But like, you didn't live this every single day. So 156 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 5: I think you have an interesting perspective on this. Is 157 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 5: Trump boring now? 158 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 4: Is he bored now? 159 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 7: Like? 160 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: Is he now boring? Like? 161 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 5: There was a time in this business, especially in the 162 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 5: early days of the first Trump victory, where people just couldn't. 163 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 5: As a talk radio host, you it was just all 164 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 5: Trump all the time because you could see the meters, 165 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 5: you could see what would happen, you could see the ratings, 166 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 5: you could see when you were talking about Trump. People 167 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 5: were just engrossed in anything Donald Trump. And it was 168 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 5: true when he was campaigning, et cetera. And so they 169 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 5: would literally like more Trump, more Trump, more Trump. 170 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: And then you remember about. 171 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 5: What a two years ago or whatever, you know, we 172 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 5: kind of were talking with some people and. 173 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 4: They were like, we're sick of talk. 174 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 175 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 5: I mean we're seeing evidence that your audience, their audiences 176 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 5: of talk radio have kind of gone become weary of Trump, 177 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 5: and we're not seeing near the positive effect. And in 178 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 5: many cases we're seeing negative effects of when people talk 179 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 5: about Trump on their programs. And so that was obviously 180 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 5: pre him running again and winning the presidency. Is he 181 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 5: entertaining to people anymore? Is it Bill I got to 182 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 5: hear what he had to say? Or is he just 183 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 5: kind of another dude? Now I don't think he's another dude. 184 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 2: I think what you're dealing with here is And I'll 185 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 2: take it back to music on the radio. 186 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 4: There's when songs get tested, they get scored. Right, do 187 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 4: you like this? Is it unfamiliar? Does it have a 188 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 4: high burn factor? 189 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 2: And time and time again, people would, even though they're 190 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 2: sick of it, they'd rather hear something that has the 191 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 2: high burn factor than something they're unfamiliar with. 192 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 4: So you know what you're going to get with Trump. 193 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 4: You may be a little sick of it, but it's 194 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 4: better than not knowing. 195 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 5: Let's take a break because we have some stuff on 196 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 5: the maps, right, we have some stuff on they proposed 197 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:45,239 Speaker 5: or alleged proposed. 198 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 4: Well, we've got some. 199 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,719 Speaker 2: New comments by our elected representatives. 200 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 201 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, let's take a break because I want to ask 202 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 5: you about the subserviency to Trump amongst the politicians, because 203 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 5: I don't see the subserviency to Trump amongst the voters, 204 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 5: yet it still clearly exists in the political class. 205 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 4: It's kind of in Casey. It's ninety three WYBC. 206 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 5: Casey, I have a very important public service announcement for you. 207 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: Oh are you ready? 208 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, lay it on me. 209 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: If it keeps on raining, Levey's going to break. The 210 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: Levy's going to break. 211 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, I like Kevin's getting the letout. 212 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: Uh did you use that phrase when you were a 213 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: music disc jockey. No, no, you didn't know. Oh that's 214 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: too bad. 215 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 4: It's so played. It's time to get the leadout. 216 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: It's Kindlin Casey show. Rob Casey's here. Okay. 217 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 5: So one of the things that I am somewhat interested 218 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 5: in now is the polling shows that Trump's approval rating 219 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 5: amongst the American populace is probably somewhere between about forty 220 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 5: and forty five percent. 221 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you just put it in the middle, 222 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: if that's what. 223 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 5: Forty three, right, and we've seen pull after polluter polls, 224 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 5: some of them as high as forty five, lose forty 225 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 5: it's probably not the highest, probably not thest probably about 226 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 5: forty three. And yet, so it means the American public, 227 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 5: while they don't loathe him to the level like Bush 228 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:17,719 Speaker 5: in two thousand and eight, he's not Reagan circa you know, 229 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 5: eighty four, right, And yet there is this complete subserviency 230 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 5: to Trump from Republican politicians. 231 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: And I can't figure out why. If the public is. 232 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 5: Telling you, look, we had to they're saying the same 233 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 5: thing they said last time. Trump didn't win the first 234 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 5: time because he was so great. He won because Hillary 235 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 5: was so bad. And he didn't win this last time 236 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 5: because he was so great. He won because Biden and 237 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 5: then Kamala was so bad. We talked about on this program, 238 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 5: how many times, hey, the public is clamoring for something 239 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 5: other than one of these two people. Now, the Democrats 240 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 5: screwed up once I got rid of Biden, put his 241 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 5: extension in there, and didn't put you know, a Shapiro 242 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 5: or somebody like that. And yet the politicians remain totally 243 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 5: petrified of Trump and basically subservient to whatever whim or 244 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 5: stupid thing he comes up with. See Indiana and this 245 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 5: redistricting thing. Nobody's screaming at these politicians to do redistricting. 246 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 5: Now one of them can point to, Oh man, I'm 247 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 5: getting flooded with phone calls. I'm getting bombarded by people 248 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 5: desp prefer me to further rig the election system. No, 249 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 5: they're doing this or considering doing this solely because of 250 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 5: Donald Trump, and I don't get it. 251 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 2: And as Andrewn Ireland said, because they want to level 252 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 2: the playing field. So they're going to use Indiana to 253 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 2: get back in the side. 254 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: And I love Ireland. 255 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 5: There nobody was talking about leveling the playing field before 256 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 5: Trump put on the offense about this. 257 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 1: The maps have been. 258 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 5: The maps for a while now. Nobody ran on this 259 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 5: last year. Nobody was out waving their hands. We've got 260 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 5: a level the playing field. This is I love Ireland 261 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,719 Speaker 5: and he normally doesn't pull shenanigans. 262 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 4: You're just scared of the midterms. 263 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: Yes, Trump is scared of the midterms. 264 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 2: Right. 265 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 5: Trump doesn't want to deal with the Democrat Congress. But 266 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 5: it comes back to because. 267 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 4: He wants to be able to do what he wants 268 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 4: to do. 269 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 5: Which is why Briy and Houston don't want a part 270 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 5: of this because they know they will probably lose House 271 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 5: and sentence he's now. Is it gonna flip the makeup 272 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 5: of power? No, but it could, it could maybe on 273 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 5: some level threaten a super majority potentially probably even not 274 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 5: to that extreme. Maybe in the House though, because I 275 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 5: think the House is at the at the number. So 276 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 5: my point in all this is, I don't understand why 277 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 5: these politicians, especially when you get down to a state level. 278 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: What is Trump gonna do. 279 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 5: Is he gonna run some candidate against Becky Cash and Zionsville? 280 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 4: No, probably not. 281 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 5: Is he gonna target Jim Lucas and Seymour, No, of 282 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 5: course not. He doesn't know these people exist, he doesn't 283 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 5: know their names. They don't have time to do it. 284 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 1: We're almost to the fall. 285 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 5: People start declaring in January, and these politicians they don't. 286 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,239 Speaker 5: They don't think it there it's why wouldn't that gutless 287 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 5: little coward who's probably currently hiding in a fetal position 288 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 5: under a desk somewhere. Craig Haggard got bullied around by 289 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 5: Charlie Kirk. You remember Craig Haggard. 290 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 4: Right, I do remember him? 291 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 2: The guy who's now running for Congress in Indiana four. 292 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: Maybe we don't know. I mean, if the map gets 293 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: drawn it by the way, that's true. 294 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,239 Speaker 5: Did you notice, conveniently in that map that's being circulated 295 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 5: that Haggard and Bard are now drawn into different districts. 296 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 5: That was convenient and they've both come out, of course, 297 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 5: Haggard with the flip flop. Now, the reason we are 298 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 5: saying such derogatory things about Craig Haggard is he's a liar. 299 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 2: Right. Well, he did come on the show and say 300 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 2: that he thought it was fine the way it was. 301 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, Remember he came on in our program. We asked 302 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 5: him directly and he said this. 303 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 8: And I know the leadership talked to us and said, hey, 304 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 8: we want you to do a deep Vibe've talked to 305 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 8: your fellow legislators, talk to your constituents, and I reached 306 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 8: out to a bunch of tremendous amount of folks who 307 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 8: reached out to me. We've talked on the phone with 308 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 8: each other as far as other House members. And you know, 309 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 8: I look at Indiana and you know we have seven 310 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 8: out of nine seats we voted for Trump. The last 311 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 8: three times represents Steerwald, who carried the bill that redistrict 312 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 8: a few years back, did it with such care that 313 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 8: I think we were one of the few states that 314 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 8: didn't get sued. I think we're really good. 315 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 4: I think we're really good. 316 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 5: So I talked to my constituents make sure I didn't 317 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 5: miss hear something there. I talked to my constituents. They 318 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 5: wasn't hearing a clamoring for it. I talked to my 319 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 5: fellow lawmakers. Wasn't hearing a need or clamoring for it. 320 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 5: I've looked at the maps. They're very fair. That's why 321 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 5: we didn't get sued. And I think we're good. So 322 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 5: all those things think a pretty definitive I don't. I'm 323 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 5: not for redistricting, right, and then a podcaster in Arizona 324 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 5: threatens to primary people. Again, these people have no idea 325 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 5: how the media works. Charlick Creek is not going to 326 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 5: waste his time or resources or money to run against 327 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 5: some guy in Mooresville. 328 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: Okay, it's just not how this works. 329 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 5: But in their minds, oh my gosh, Charlie Kirk threatened me. 330 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 5: And then this little gutlass weasel flip flops and comes 331 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 5: out and basically says he's for the redistricting with no 332 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 5: new information. 333 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, he said he's not opposed to it, and he 334 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 2: says it should help quote keep the country moving in 335 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 2: Trump's direction. 336 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 5: Which is not the job of the legislature, It is 337 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 5: not the job of the election administration. 338 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 2: They should he should be worried about keeping the country 339 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 2: moving in Casey's direction, in Rob's direction, in Kevin's direction. 340 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 5: Your job is to have free and fair and honest elections, 341 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 5: and the best ideas win. That is your job, Craig Haggard, 342 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 5: That is your job, Diego Morales, is to have free 343 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 5: and fair elections. And if you have the best ideas, 344 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 5: if you have the best candidates, then you will win. 345 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 5: But they can't win all the seats with the ideas because, 346 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 5: let's face it, every time people go to Washington on 347 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 5: that we send these Republicans there, they lie to us, 348 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 5: they screw us over, they add to the national debt, 349 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 5: they prop up the crony capitalism, they do all the 350 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 5: same things all over. 351 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: They do nothing for us. 352 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,719 Speaker 5: And so because they can't win these districts fair and square, 353 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 5: well now we've got to rig them further. 354 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: And so what TCHR. 355 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 5: WHR had an article about this and ed Claire state 356 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 5: representative from I believe he's down in southern Indiana. 357 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: Just said the thing. 358 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, he said he's one hundred percent of posed to 359 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 2: redrawing the maps. He called the effort sheeting and politically 360 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 2: motivated by Trump, and he believes special sessions are for emergencies, 361 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 2: not political maneuvers. 362 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, here's the direct quote again. WTHR with the story here. 363 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 5: This is being driven by the President and his desire 364 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 5: to stack the deck to maintain to retain a Republican 365 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 5: majority in the US House. And many people, most people 366 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 5: who've contacted me see it for what it is. It's 367 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 5: cheating and hoosiers. Hoosiers don't like cheating. He went on 368 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 5: to say, Americans don't like cheating. And people see it 369 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 5: for what it is, and it's cheating and they don't 370 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 5: like it. People give you asking me about this aut 371 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 5: that's like, why are you so adamant about this? Because 372 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 5: the Republicans do nothing for me? And in your little 373 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 5: unless you're one of these uber connected people, Republicans do 374 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 5: nothing for you. Why would I be excited about manipulating 375 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 5: the election process to put two more Jefferson streams in Washington, DC? 376 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: What does that get me. What do I get out 377 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: of this? 378 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 5: I'm sick of bending over backwards and making special rules 379 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 5: and propping up people who screw me over and over 380 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 5: and over again. 381 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 2: Okay, well, a lot of the Republicans would say, because 382 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 2: the Democrats have been cheating for years, so now we're 383 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 2: just going to do this to level the playing field 384 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 2: so that when they get in there they can pass 385 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 2: bills like the one big beautiful bill. 386 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. So here's the problem. 387 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 5: We did the math on California yesterday, and because they 388 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 5: always talk about, oh California, it's so rigged. California's representation 389 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 5: Republican a Democrat, and it's a very similar state in 390 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 5: terms of how the presidential race went, is almost identical. 391 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 5: The percentage of US reps that are majority party versus 392 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 5: minority Now it's flip because they're Democrats. And it's another 393 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 5: example of these Republicans manipulating you because you see the number, 394 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 5: what fifty two, and they go forty three of those 395 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 5: are forty three of those are Democrats. That's jerrymandering. Yeah, 396 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 5: and seventy or nine. Indiana is a much smaller state, 397 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 5: but the numbers, the percentage is almost identical to the representation. 398 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 5: Indiana is already a jerrymandered state. Indiana is already rigged 399 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 5: in favor of the Republicans, just like every other state 400 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 5: in the Union, in favor of a Republican or Democrat, 401 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 5: depending on who's in power. But the Republicans do nothing 402 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 5: for me, and I don't want my money, I don't 403 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 5: want my re I don't want my time going towards 404 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,479 Speaker 5: something that is being done for no other reason than 405 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 5: to help a group of people who hate me and 406 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 5: they hate you. 407 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 2: Okay, So Governor Mike Braun still has not said whether 408 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 2: he'll call a special session to redraw these congressional maps. 409 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 2: So it's at this point we're doing this waiting game 410 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 2: of will they or won't they because he has said 411 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 2: he's waiting to. 412 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 4: Hear from Houston and Bray. 413 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 2: They don't seem like they are very excited about the idea. However, 414 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 2: you got to wonder if Braun it's going to say, well, 415 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 2: you know, Braun does what Trump wants, so at the 416 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 2: end of the day, he's going to pull the My 417 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 2: arm was twisted. 418 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 4: I had to do it. 419 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 7: Jiver. 420 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 5: Well, we got to get to the news with Jared Lewis, 421 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 5: Oh he's a he's a real tyrant. 422 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: So if we don't get damn on time. 423 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 4: Tony Katz sent him McDonald's this morning. 424 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 5: They're still back there. I think I'm gonna go grab 425 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 5: a sandwich they offered me one. You notice he never 426 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 5: Tony Kats has never sent us anything ever, and the 427 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 5: news guys got like egg mcmuffins. 428 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 4: We give nothing to the news department. 429 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 5: I'm going to ask you about a scenario that I'm 430 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 5: sure has never taken place in your house when we 431 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 5: come back. 432 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 2: Okay, it's Kennelly Casey, it's ninety three wibc. 433 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: Okay, let's do a little role playing here. I kind 434 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 1: of role playing is the right word. 435 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 5: I mean, I just want to see if the scenario 436 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,719 Speaker 5: has ever played out in your house, because I think 437 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 5: it's like what's going on with our spineless weasel governor. Oh, 438 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 5: Governor dementsiapation Because I would never accuse the governor of 439 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 5: lying to people, and it appears he lies all the time. 440 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 5: So I'm thinking there must be some serious cognitive issues going. 441 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 4: On with our government that's accidental lying. 442 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 5: So Governor dementsiapation won't lead on anything. And I mean 443 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 5: he's said on Hammer Nigel. He's been on these other 444 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 5: shows where he's just like, I'll just wait for the leadership. 445 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna do it if there's not the votes 446 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 5: to do it. Now, whether we should do it not, 447 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 5: whether it needs to be done. 448 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 4: He claim he was strong arm and into it. 449 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 7: Yeah. 450 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 5: He I mean, he makes this bizarre thing about Massachusetts, 451 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 5: which is because they don't have any Republicans. We've got 452 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 5: to we've got to screw our election system up here. 453 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 5: But and so he clearly like nobody wants to do 454 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 5: this right the leadership. Brian Houston don't want to do it. 455 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 5: Braun doesn't want to do it. And so in your house. 456 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 5: I'm not saying this happens in my house. 457 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 2: But. 458 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 5: Are you does your spouse ever ask you to do 459 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 5: something and then you're like, well, it's clearly not all 460 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 5: that important to them. They just want it done to 461 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 5: check a box or it needs to be done or whatever. 462 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 5: But it's not like a tippy top thing. And if 463 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 5: I just don't do it long enough, they'll forget they 464 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 5: ever told me to do it? Do you ever do 465 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 5: that in your house? 466 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 4: And it just gets blown off. 467 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 2: Well, I figure if he wants it to be done 468 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 2: badly enough, he'll do it himself. Oh perfect, Yeah, that's 469 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 2: why are you asking me to do it? 470 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 4: Are you incapable of doing it? 471 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 5: Well, that's what this sort of seems like is in 472 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 5: which both governor dementia patient and the Flanders boys Rod 473 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 5: Bray and Todd Houston, the pro tim of the Senate, 474 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 5: and the Speaker of the House, none of them want this. 475 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 2: I mean, there are there are certain things that I 476 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 2: don't know if you know this raw. But I really 477 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 2: am a good baker. Yes, I make a delicious orange 478 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 2: even a scone. 479 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 5: Even though you never bake anything for our program, No 480 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 5: I don't. 481 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 4: I make a delicious orange scone. 482 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll get the subtle hints of hmm, we're 483 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 2: out of baked goods or why you haven't made those 484 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 2: in a while. That sounds good, Okay, So that's that's 485 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 2: my thing. Right, he could do it, it wouldn't be 486 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 2: as good as mine, sure, so yeah, I would do that. 487 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 2: But if it is like you know, hey, this needs 488 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 2: to be done. The airfoil needs to be changed, the 489 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 2: oil needs to be changed, you know, just different things 490 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 2: around the house. 491 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 4: You know how to do that too. Why are you 492 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 4: telling me to do it. You can do it yourself. 493 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 5: So do you think in this case, Rod and Todd, 494 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 5: the Speaker of the House of Vote, him of the Senate, 495 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 5: are looking at Braun going look permanently fixturing your lips 496 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 5: on Trump's ass cheeks? 497 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: Is your thing, it's not our thing. 498 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 4: Doesn't do anything for them. 499 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: You want it, you. 500 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 5: Call it well, and he wants them to tell him 501 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 5: to call it, And nobody clearly wants is that's the thing. 502 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 5: Nobody clearly wants this. Nobody's passionate about it except for 503 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 5: Donald Trump and JD. Van exactly. Yeah, And that's what 504 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 5: this is. You now, they are making your vote. Our 505 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 5: electoral process in Indiana is totally subservient to the whim 506 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 5: of Donald Trump. 507 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 4: What's going on in Washington, d C. 508 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: Shouldn't our electoral process be about us? 509 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 4: Well, you it should be. It's supposed to be. 510 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 2: But you also have to consider certain things within the 511 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 2: state on the federal level, like we're getting an agriculture 512 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 2: hub here, which would mean more federal dollars. Braun doesn't 513 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 2: want that to go away, and he doesn't want to 514 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 2: piss off Donald Trump. Whoa whoa wa With the risk 515 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 2: of that happening. 516 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 5: Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa whoa, backup, backup, back up the 517 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 5: time because you just said a lot there. I thought 518 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 5: they chose Indiana because we're the envy of the rest 519 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 5: of the nation. Sure, I thought they chose Indiana because 520 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 5: we're a state that works. I thought they chose Indiana 521 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 5: because look at this beacon of opportunity that we offer. 522 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 5: I thought that's why Donald Trump chose Indiana. Oh sure, yeah, 523 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 5: Are you implying that it's only because he is a 524 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 5: good working relationship with I was going to say that 525 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 5: he sees the politicians as weak, spineless boot liquors, But 526 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 5: you're gonna use the phrase good working relationship. 527 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 2: Sure. 528 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 5: Are you implying that the president would leverage taking away 529 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 5: something from Indiana if we don't do what we're told 530 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 5: in order in order to rig the election in his favor. 531 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 4: I never I would never employ that rop. 532 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 1: No. See, And this is why we spend so much time. 533 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 5: And it doesn't matter whether this new map that's being 534 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 5: floated about, whether it's legitimate or not, whether it's what 535 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 5: they're thinking about or not, whether it's what it ends 536 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 5: up being or not. This whole process is everything we 537 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 5: talk about on this show all the time, it's playing 538 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 5: out in one event. And this thing is why your government, 539 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 5: collectively and more importantly, how it serves you, is so 540 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 5: screwed up. 541 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 1: Don't you. 542 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 5: It's like field of dreams, right, it was you? No, Ray, 543 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 5: it was you. 544 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: Don't you? 545 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 4: People? 546 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 5: See, this is why I spend so much time on 547 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 5: this because. 548 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: Once you get past the idea of. 549 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 5: This team sport thing, which is utterly ridiculous, because these 550 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 5: Republicans take you and they screw you over all the time, 551 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 5: and they lie to you and they abuse you and 552 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 5: everything else. 553 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: But even they didn't do that. 554 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 5: Once you get past the idea of the team thing, 555 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 5: and we got to have more Republicans and there, of course, 556 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,719 Speaker 5: nobody can tell you why, because nothing ever changes. 557 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: But this is it. 558 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 5: What are we seeing here? We're seeing dishonesty from our politicians. 559 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 5: We're seeing your interest, the interest of the public at large, 560 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 5: being put aside to playkate select powerful individuals. We're seeing 561 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 5: bad public policy with no reason being given for it. 562 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 5: You're seeing, like all of the go on and on 563 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 5: and on, all of these things that we talk about 564 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 5: all the time on the show, it's playing out in 565 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 5: this issue. It was you, No, public, it was you. 566 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 2: Hey, let's give an update about Senator Mike Bohatchik. You 567 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 2: remember he pled guilty last week to that DWI charge, 568 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 2: and now the Senate President Pro temp Bray he has 569 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 2: made a comment about it. 570 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 5: Oh, we finally said something because remember when old jimbo 571 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 5: Jim Lucas got his remember Jim Lucas, I do Jim 572 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 5: Lucas state reps Seymour, He drove drunk, blew through a barricade, 573 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 5: crashed his car, fled the scene, tried to hide the car, 574 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 5: and then got cute with the cops when they were 575 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 5: asking him about what he was, where he was going, 576 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 5: and what he was doing and where his automobile was. Yeah, yeah, 577 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 5: And then and then he pled guilty. He got a 578 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 5: little sweetheart plea deal and basically no punishment, and then 579 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 5: his the leadership didn't say anything about him. And then 580 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 5: they gave him fifty thousand dollars to help him get reelected. 581 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 1: That was his punishment, right right, Here's. 582 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 5: We're not just the horrendous behavior, but the dishonest, deceitful behavior. 583 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 5: After the fact, his punishment was here's fifty k. 584 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: Good luck. But they're saying something about bat Well. 585 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 2: They said that they expect better from him. 586 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 4: And he's being removed from a committee seat that he's 587 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 4: had since twenty seventeen. Oh knows, he doesn't get to 588 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 4: be on a committee. Oh no punishment, same pay, less work. 589 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,719 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, Now, in fairness, I think they do get 590 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 5: a little extra if they're on the committee, so it 591 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 5: may not be the exact same pay. But so let's 592 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 5: just again, let's remind everybody of who Mike Bohatchick is. 593 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 5: Mike Bohachick is a state Senator Republican from northeast north 594 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 5: northern Indiana northwestern Indiana. 595 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: He also drove drunk. 596 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 4: On a Friday after day drink. 597 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 5: Yes, it was during the day, at least Lucas's was 598 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 5: at nights. At least he was partying in the evening. 599 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 5: He was so inebriated that the people at the Panda 600 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 5: Express sounded the alarm on him. I've been inebriated in 601 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 5: a restaurant before. Casey, you know how drunk you gotta be, 602 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 5: how messed up you got to be. That people who 603 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,239 Speaker 5: are working are like, yeah, that guy's pretty messed up. 604 00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: Sure, don't let him drive. 605 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 5: Cops track him down. He's so liquored up that he's 606 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 5: trying to eat and drink his food allegedly. Now, hopefully 607 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 5: we're get this bodycam footage soon, but they're making that 608 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 5: a whole process. 609 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 2: Did they lower the price of the body cam footage 610 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 2: that seems successive? 611 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 5: Our old pal, Stephen Whitmer from Indie Reporter, was told 612 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 5: that it was going to cost him eight hundred and 613 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 5: fifty dollars to get the bodycam footage, so a taxpayer funded. 614 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: Thing. 615 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 5: Then the taxi have to pay again to get it. 616 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 5: Now he was told they would come back to him 617 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 5: and give a new estimate. Man, they're reestimating I don't. 618 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 4: Know, five hundred dollars for this USG. 619 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: Would you pay five hundred dollars? 620 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 5: But supposedly the bodycam footage will allegedly show that he 621 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 5: was so drunk he was trying to eat and drink 622 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 5: his food while the officer was giving him commands refuse 623 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 5: the breathalyzer. The blood test showed him I believe it 624 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 5: a point two eight three, which is three and a 625 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 5: half times the legal limit. But because of the rule 626 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 5: that exempts lawmakers from any sort of punishment, really, during 627 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 5: the legislative session. He not only wasn't punished, he didn't 628 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 5: lose his license, he was allowed to drive, which I 629 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 5: refused the breathalyserre supposed to lose your license, and then 630 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 5: his punishment when he finally got punished. And by the way, 631 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 5: the story only broke because who broke the story? 632 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 4: Oh the Kennel and Casey. 633 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: Oh that's right, Kennel and Casey put that put that 634 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: out there. 635 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 5: After days of warning him, come cleaner, We're going to 636 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 5: tell everybody what you did. And he wouldn't come clean. 637 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:20,959 Speaker 5: He wouldn't tell the public what he did. We had 638 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 5: to break the story. Then he basically gets no punishment. 639 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 5: He gets essentially what remounts to unsupervised probation it appears, 640 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 5: and no jail time and he lost his license for 641 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 5: twenty days. Now he's going to lose his big punishment 642 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 5: as a committee see correct. So my question to Rod 643 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 5: Bray is, I will you pledge that the Republicans will 644 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 5: not give this guy a dime for his reelection? Will 645 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 5: you actually punish him and let him sink or swim 646 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 5: without you saving it his own or will he get 647 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 5: the Jim Lucas treatment, which is you've been a good boy. 648 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 5: We don't actually care about your behavior. We're fine with 649 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 5: the OWI stuff, which the Republicans clearly are. How many 650 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 5: of these now in the General Assembly have been hit 651 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 5: with these things, Nothing happens to any of them. They're 652 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 5: fine as long as all that matters is the party, 653 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 5: legislative immunity. All that matters is the party. How do 654 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 5: you defend the party and the party leadership? All right, 655 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 5: Hammer is going to join us next. Now, we have 656 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 5: a menace in the Marion County jail. You may recall 657 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 5: we had this conversation yesterday, yes and we were trying 658 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 5: to do some research on how we would go visit 659 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 5: the public menace that's currently finds himself housed in the 660 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 5: Marion County jail, and a listener sent us the info. 661 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 4: Oh, you know how to do it, So we'll reveal how. 662 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: We will go visit a public menace in the Marion 663 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: County jail. 664 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 2: Hammer's up next on ninety three WIBC. 665 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: All right, So we have gotten. 666 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 5: Some information on how to go visit a menace to 667 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 5: society in the Marion County jail, and we will get 668 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 5: to that in just a moment. It's ken On Casey John, 669 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 5: Rob Casey's here, Jason Hammer, Hello. 670 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 9: Hello, new podcast, Rob. We dropped a college football betting 671 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 9: pod yesterday, the Degenerates next Door. Now every Tuesday moving forward, 672 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 9: we will do the College Football Betting Show, and then 673 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 9: every Thursday we do the NFL One. It's all free. 674 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 9: Anywhere you get your podcasts, just subscribe, it'll come right 675 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 9: to you. Look for The Degenerates next Door and we 676 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 9: always pick the biggest games, games that you want to watch, right, 677 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 9: So we bring professional handicappers in, Rob and I do 678 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 9: the homework rob Bin Rowland early on in the season. 679 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: It won't last. It's like the Pirates leading the division 680 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: in April. So check it out. 681 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 9: The college one dropped yesterday talking Michigan versus Oklahoma, some 682 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 9: other games we're all picking, and then the NFL edition 683 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 9: comes out tomorrow. 684 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 5: And I'm pretty proud of my second pick today because 685 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 5: I picked in part because of the size of the 686 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 5: coach's stomach. 687 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: Brent Beelima of Illinois. 688 00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 9: Now he's always been stocky, country strong, midwestern nurse would say. 689 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: But it wasn't that long ago, and we talked about 690 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: this in the pod. 691 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 9: He was romantically rubored and I don't know if there 692 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 9: was ever truth to it or not to Aaron Andrews, Oh, 693 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 9: she's beautiful, She's unbelievable. Yeah, and this is back when 694 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 9: he was the coach at Wisconsin, I believe, and nobody 695 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 9: ever came out and said, but it was talked about 696 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 9: in a lot of inner circles that Brett. 697 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: Bielima and Ea may have been an item. 698 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's an oddly shaped human, and so I got 699 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 5: to weigh in on the Illinois duke game in honor 700 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 5: of an oddly shaped human. 701 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 4: Just like in crime, it's access and placement. 702 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 9: Correct and listen, if a dude like that can pull 703 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 9: Aaron Andrews allegedly, there's hope to everybody else. Now, you 704 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 9: might not have big ten head coach football money, but hey, 705 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 9: if that duke can pull Ea, we. 706 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:51,320 Speaker 1: Got a puncher's chance. 707 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 4: They're so foreveryone. 708 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 5: Right, you said big And the next thing started with 709 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 5: the T and I thought, oh, no, he can't say that. 710 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 1: They went to I'm so I'm very relieved thing on. 711 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 9: College football before we move on to the menace to 712 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 9: society here. I posted about this on Twitter. Am I 713 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 9: the only one that's not into this whole IU Bison 714 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 9: buffalo thing. Yes, Like, I think it's kind of dumb, 715 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 9: and I know I'm probably gonna get, you know, yelled 716 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 9: at by the Hoosier fans and whatnot. I don't hate Iu. 717 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 9: I root for Eye You that's fine. 718 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: You know. 719 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,439 Speaker 9: I'm a Tennessee guy, but I want Eyeu to do well. 720 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 9: I like the home state, but I just. 721 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 4: They're trying to make something out of nothing. 722 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 9: Yeah, they're bringing back the mascot that went away in 723 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 9: the sixties, and. 724 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 5: He looks like a big were wolf. Does I agree 725 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 5: with that assessment? 726 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: It looks like a were wolf. 727 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 9: It doesn't look like a bison or buffalo, whatever the 728 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 9: hell it's supposed to be. 729 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,399 Speaker 1: It looks like a scary werewolf. They should Yeah, because 730 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,720 Speaker 1: they got a human in the costume. Right, they're walking 731 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: around on two feet. 732 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 4: They had a real bicy. 733 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, they should have had it like the Georgia Bulldog 734 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 5: or the Texas Longhorns. 735 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: Or whatever happen Colorado. 736 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 9: They've already kind of got the market circles on having 737 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 9: a live buffalo. 738 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like he comes out there and leads them out. 739 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 1: Does Indian have a strong history with the Bisons? 740 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 9: Is that it's the bison goes back to the state 741 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 9: of Indiana, and it's why it's on the logo and 742 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 9: all that kind of stuff. 743 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: But I guess in the sixties they did away with 744 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,320 Speaker 1: this because it's stupid. Correct. 745 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 9: And then I use student government, which clearly has figured 746 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 9: out how to make students feel safe, how to make 747 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 9: sure left wing professors aren't pushing propaganda on their students. Yes, 748 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 9: they've got all that figured out. So their main priority 749 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 9: was let's bring back the Bison. 750 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, So yesterday we were pondering our old, 751 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,280 Speaker 5: our old pal, dishonest Gabe Whitley failed congressional candidates. 752 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: Now that's a fat guy. 753 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 9: You can say what you want to Brett about Brett Bilima, 754 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 9: but man, based. 755 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 4: On the court sketches, that's right. What an artist right? 756 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: For those who don't know. 757 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 5: When Gabe was sentenced to federal prison for lying about 758 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 5: donors on his campaign finance report, Hammer served as artist. 759 00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 5: Court remarkus, I think you did post some of the 760 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 5: pictures I did at the Hammer in Nigel Act. 761 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 1: Can I give them to you? Do you have them? 762 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 5: I don't have them anymore. Those were one of a kind. 763 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,800 Speaker 5: I hope they I hope somebody's got him somewhere. 764 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 9: Whoever bought Hunter Biden's painting for a million dollars. I 765 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 9: hope they've got my courtroom sketches of the gay too. 766 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,479 Speaker 5: The he managed to find himself after he got released 767 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 5: from federal prison back in the Marion County jail, apparently 768 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 5: because he wasn't allegedly wasn't willing to wear the ankle 769 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 5: monitor or wouldn't rapport because he's facing state charges related 770 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:32,720 Speaker 5: to threatening Abdul. 771 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 4: On the internet's outfit. 772 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,240 Speaker 1: He's very concerned. So this idiot decided. 773 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 5: I guess he'd rather spend time in the Marrion County 774 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 5: jail than wear an ankle bracelet of some sort, which 775 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 5: is crazy to me. 776 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 1: I can't think of any war rather go to jail 777 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:46,720 Speaker 1: than be out and wear a monitor. 778 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 9: Yeah, so he must like being in jail, apparently, assuming 779 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 9: all these you know, late night TV shows are correct. 780 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 9: The things that go on in that jail are things 781 00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,839 Speaker 9: that I would be shocked that people would be interested in. 782 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:00,879 Speaker 1: But maybe he's there. 783 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 2: Do you remember when he first went to the federal 784 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 2: prison he was talking about the golf course. Yes, and 785 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 2: I don't mean playing on the course, I mean like 786 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 2: the school lesson the golf lesson that he was going 787 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:13,359 Speaker 2: to learn while he was there. 788 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 4: He was like excited about it. 789 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 5: So he's in the He's apparently in the Marine County 790 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 5: jail and will be for the foreseeable future until this 791 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 5: thing with this looming trial gets sorted out. And we 792 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 5: were pondering, like it would be fun to go visit 793 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 5: him in the Marion County jail to, amongst other things, 794 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,280 Speaker 5: point at him and laugh correct, And then that sparked 795 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 5: a conversation about what we'd have to do to go 796 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 5: visit someone in the Marion County jail. 797 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 1: And you sent me an email last night. 798 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 9: I don't know if it was a Listeners has contact 799 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 9: that had sent it to you. It's not looking likely 800 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 9: because it sounds like he has to approve it. 801 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:48,320 Speaker 1: Oh damn. 802 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 5: We can't just show up and say you're I'm here 803 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,319 Speaker 5: for dishonest Gabe Whitley, right, And. 804 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 9: They would have to let him know who it was, 805 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 9: And we have to show ID because I would just 806 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 9: go there and be like Pajamagram, you know, oh Domino's 807 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 9: Pizza and here comes you know, Gabe waddling up to 808 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 9: see who's there, and lo and behold it be rob hah. 809 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 1: He might like the attention though, because he craves attention. 810 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 1: Yeah he does, but he hates us, that's true. 811 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 9: Maybe we could get somebody else from the Hoosier Inquirer 812 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 9: to go investigate. Oh that's rights fictional site. 813 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 4: Their editors a little tied up right now. 814 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,439 Speaker 5: That's a shame, because I would really like at least 815 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,839 Speaker 5: the three of us keV. You're welcome to come if 816 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 5: you want as well. I don't think a dual can 817 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 5: come due to the restraining order or whatever whatever that 818 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 5: is that he's got. But we could all go and 819 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 5: sit down with him and say, what is it like 820 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 5: a prison for the dumbest crime ever? Because he got 821 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 5: nothing out of it. Like the American greed guys, they 822 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 5: make money for a while, they live a high lifestyle. 823 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 5: He got nothing. The donors weren't real. 824 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 4: What would be the first question that you would ask him? 825 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 5: Does it feel to be in prison for the for 826 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 5: the dumbest crime ever committed? Everything he's done, he's done 827 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 5: to himself, and whether it's the threatening of duel online 828 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 5: or this other thing with the donor, you got nothing 829 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 5: out of it. 830 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 9: How much time do you spend creating fake identities on 831 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 9: social media because the quote staff of the Hoosier Inquirer. 832 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 9: I was told that they were going to carry on, 833 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 9: and oddly they stopped posting one. 834 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,360 Speaker 1: Fatty McGee went to jail. 835 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 4: You know what, I would ask him how Spencer McDaniel doing. 836 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 1: Wait, that was one of Gabe's fake Is he in 837 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 1: there he invented? Yes, that was. 838 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a shame. I think we should still try it, though. 839 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 5: I mean maybe if we brought food. 840 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,840 Speaker 9: Because I feel like that's a kype of dude that 841 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,800 Speaker 9: probably missing good meals because I can't imagine the food 842 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 9: they give you in Marion County lockup? 843 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 1: Is that great? 844 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 5: If we gave him five dollars for the commissary, he 845 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,359 Speaker 5: would sit down and have a conversation with. 846 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 9: I'd be willing to bring like a steak dinner. I 847 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 9: will bring him a steak and say, hey, you can 848 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,240 Speaker 9: have this, but you're gonna. 849 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,840 Speaker 1: Sit here and be roasted by Robin. Hi think he 850 00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 1: would take it. 851 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 5: Can you film yourself the marine Kenny jailer? Is that 852 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 5: a now, Oh you can film it, but he's got 853 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:04,799 Speaker 5: to give approval for Okay. Yeah, then if we could 854 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 5: film it, that'd be totally worthless. 855 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 1: Do you want the steak or not? 856 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 4: Fatty? 857 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 9: And I can say this because I'm a little overweight too, right, 858 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 9: Abdul can say things that we can't. 859 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: That's how the rules work. What are you doing this afternoon? 860 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 9: The Shot of Oz family is gonna come by in studio. 861 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 9: They got a great event for their son Noah coming 862 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,800 Speaker 9: up this weekend. Tony Kennett will join us and we're gonna. 863 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 1: Have a lot of fun. 864 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:26,800 Speaker 4: Thanks Hammer. 865 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 2: It is Kennelly Casey on Maggie Street.