1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Live from vall Hartband and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. Jimmy Kimmel did it to himself. The 3 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal has the reporting. 4 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: You want to take it with a grain of salt 5 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: because it's the Wall Street Journal. I appreciate such a thing. 6 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: I have no problem with that at all. And as 7 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: we watched this, we watch the protests that are happening 8 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: right now in Chicago. Leftist slashing the tires of ice vehicles. 9 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 2: Thank goodness for turning down the rhetoric. Thank thank goodness, indeed, 10 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: Tony Katz. Tony Katz today, guys. 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I tell the story now as you 17 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 2: already know it, up until a point about Jimmy Kimmel 18 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: not having his show on ABC because the affiliates were 19 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: in revolt because Jimmy Kimmel is revolting, and lied, very 20 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: very very clear, lied about who the shooter was the 21 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 2: assassin of Charlie Kirk. When I say he lied, it 22 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: was known. It was known at the time that Kirk 23 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: was assassinated by a guy who saw himself on the left. Yes, 24 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 2: he had a family that seemed normal and it seemed 25 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 2: Trump supporting and a good, you know, type of family. 26 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: But he got radicalized because these things happen. The question 27 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 2: is how do they happen and how do we stop 28 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: them from happening? And took on a boyfriend he did 29 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: who was transitioning. This is how the story is told. 30 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: And when you read that on the bullets that were 31 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 2: found on the casings that were found, hey fast catch that. 32 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: There's no difference between that and the thing said by 33 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 2: Randy Weingartner and the American Federation of Teachers, or Hillary 34 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,399 Speaker 2: Clinton or any member of the squad or any member 35 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 2: of the Democratic Party or any gust on MSNBC. There 36 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 2: is no difference in that phraseology. The people we disagree 37 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 2: with are fascists. It's like when people put out that 38 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 2: meme it's a children's book. Everyone I disagree with is Hitler. 39 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 2: Have you ever seen that? I want to see if 40 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: I can find it it's a it's a it's supposed 41 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: to look like a children's book, and it's a. It 42 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: makes the point, right. I can't find it right now. 43 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: Oh there it is there, It is right there. Everyone 44 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 2: I don't like is Hitler. There's actually a book, a 45 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: children's guide to online political discussions. I mean, that's that's 46 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: pretty good right there. But it's true. It's true, and 47 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: it's awful. And I've already engaged the conversation a little 48 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: bit earlier that no one is toning down the rhetoric. 49 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 2: And this is the only thing that the left has 50 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 2: to run on, hatred of It's the only thing they 51 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: have to run on. This is what Jimmy Kimmel said. 52 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 2: These are the words. 53 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 3: We hit some new lows over the weekend with the 54 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 3: magi gank desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered 55 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them, and 56 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 3: everything they can to score political points from it. 57 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 2: In between the finger pointing, there was. 58 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 3: Grieving on Friday, the White House flew the flags at 59 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 3: half staff. 60 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: Leave it there just for a moment. When he compares 61 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 2: Trump and his morning to a four year old more 62 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,559 Speaker 2: into goldfish because Trump got on one of his side 63 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: rants because that's what he does. But it's this We 64 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 2: had some new Lows over the. 65 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 3: Weekend with the Magi gang and desperately trying to characterize 66 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 3: this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than 67 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 3: one of them and do everything they can. 68 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: To score political points. He could not have been more clear. 69 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 2: New Low's with the Maga gang, desperately trying to characterize 70 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than 71 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 2: one of them and doing everything they can to score 72 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: political points from it. But he wasn't Maga, he wasn't 73 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 2: a Trump supporter, and Jimmy Kimmel knew this not true. 74 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 2: If you were to take a look at social media feeds, 75 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: you would see Lefty's saying, I've gone over this clip 76 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: numerous times and that's not what he's saying at all. 77 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 2: What do you mean, That's not what he's saying at all. 78 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 2: It's the only thing that he's saying. He's saying that 79 00:05:54,120 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 2: this guy was a Trump supporter the Bulwark, which is 80 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 2: an anti Trump or outfit. Jimmy Kimmel wasn't being totally 81 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 2: factually incorrect, but more to the point he was telling 82 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 2: a joke. Censorship of comedians is pretty textbook authoritarian behavior. 83 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 2: This is bonkers. That's exactly what I wrote on social media. 84 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 2: It's nuts. He wasn't being totally factually inaccurate, what the hell? 85 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: And he wasn't telling a joke that was not a joke. 86 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: It's the same way I argue that he may be 87 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: a comedian, he may have come up as a comedian, 88 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 2: but what I'm saying to you out loud is that 89 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 2: when he did that show, he wasn't engaged as a comedian. 90 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 2: He was engaged as a propagandist. And maybe the rules 91 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 2: should be different. I would argue the rules are different. 92 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 2: And if you want a great example of not bringing 93 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 2: down the rhetoric, check this post out from a guy 94 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 2: named Adam Mockler. I don't know who this guy is, 95 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: but this is what he put See if I can 96 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: do this. All he wanted to do was make you laugh. 97 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 2: Now we have no choice but to make you cry. 98 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 2: It's a picture of Jimmy Kimmel, And my question was, 99 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: what kind of middle school threat is this? All he 100 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 2: wanted to do was make you laugh, and now we 101 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 2: have no choice but to make you cry. To Adam Mockler, 102 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 2: my question exactly, how are you going to do that? 103 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 2: How are you going to make me cry? How does 104 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 2: this work? In your mind? When you wrote that down, 105 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: what did you mean? Did you mean that you're going 106 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 2: to lose elections? Because when I discussed it, I talk 107 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 2: about them losing elections. The Left cannot be allowed to 108 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 2: win an election again. We have to go out there 109 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 2: and compete in every race everywhere, tell our story, make 110 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: our case, show off our policy, and win. And part 111 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 2: of that is these people really want to threaten you 112 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 2: all day. All he wanted to do was make you laugh. 113 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 2: Now we have no choice to make you cry, but 114 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: to make you cry. Exactly how does that? How does 115 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:29,239 Speaker 2: that work? What do you mean, Adam Mockler. Adam Mockler, 116 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 2: by the way, is part of something called Midas Touch. Okay, 117 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 2: if if that's the way, all you're telling me to 118 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 2: do is be aware, trust me with you progressives. I'm 119 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 2: always aware. So Jimmy Kimmel does this. The affiliates are 120 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 2: very concerned because the affiliates, whether it's next door or 121 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 2: whether it's in Claire, they're local and they've got local audiences, 122 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 2: and they don't want this, and you have absolutely as 123 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 2: some economics where next to our is trying to buy 124 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 2: this group Tegna, and they don't want this screwed up 125 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 2: by the FCC. We're not going to argue that there 126 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 2: isn't that level at play here. We're also not going 127 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 2: to argue that Jimmy Kimmel was a pretty crappy employee 128 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 2: not caring about the business future, because what he said 129 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 2: did not have to be said. No one is addressing this. 130 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 2: Jimmy Kimmel did not have to say any of that. 131 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 2: He could have continued to hate Trump had not said 132 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 2: that at all, but he couldn't stop himself in the 133 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 2: question of course we should ask is why. Well, it 134 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 2: turns out that question was someone asked. That question was 135 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: asked inside this Wall Street Journal piece inside did these 136 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 2: abrupt decisions to suspend Jimmy Kimmel's show? This question was 137 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 2: asked by Dana Walden, co chairman of Disney Entertainment, because 138 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 2: before the show Wednesday night, before all this went down. 139 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 2: It's interesting I was on Newsmax with Carl Higbee and 140 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 2: we were talking about just this because Kimmel had been 141 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 2: mocking Carl Higby for something he said on his show, 142 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: and I actually referred to Jimmy Kimmel as Jimmy blackface Kimmel, 143 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 2: because you know, he did that. And literally minutes later, 144 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 2: we learned that Kimmel was out and I wasn't on 145 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 2: the air at the time. So Dana Walden, the co 146 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: chairman of Disney Entertainment, reaches out to Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy, 147 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 2: Jimmy James, Jimbo, Jim Marino. So we've got this problem then, Man, 148 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 2: some of the affiliates are not happy Sinclair Next Star. 149 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: We're talking about more than sixty local ABC stations. They're 150 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 2: not happy. Man, talk to me about your plan. What 151 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 2: is it that you're gonna do, You're gonna come on tonight, 152 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 2: what what is it that you're gonna you're gonna say, Jimmy, Jimmy. 153 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 2: I don't want to edit you. I need to know 154 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 2: what's gonna go on here. I need to know what 155 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: you're gonna say because I need to know how to 156 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 2: deal with these affiliates. What's gonna happen. So what had 157 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 2: happened in the conversation, of course, happened between the two 158 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 2: of them. What is believed to have happened is that 159 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 2: Kimmel said that he was planning to say that his 160 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 2: words were being purposely twisted by some members of MAGA. 161 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 2: No apology was planned. No, hey, I really shouldn't have 162 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 2: said that was planned. But rather look at those terrible 163 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: MAGA people noticing what I said, and and of course 164 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 2: you know I didn't say that, even though we just 165 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:54,479 Speaker 2: heard it and he said it. His plan, Jimmy Kimmel's 166 00:11:54,520 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 2: master plan, was to quadruple down because Jimmy Kimmel did 167 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 2: not care about the stations, didn't care about the advertisers, 168 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 2: didn't care about their money, didn't care about their future. No, no, 169 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 2: Jimmy Kimmel cared about Jimmy Kimmel being Jimmy Kimmel. And 170 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 2: he's going to Jimmy Kimmel himself all over the Jimmy 171 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: Kimmel place. I'm important, I'm Jimmy Kimmel, I host the Oscars. 172 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 2: I'm Jimmy Kimmel. This is my parking spot, this is 173 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 2: my Porsche. I'm Jimmy Kimmel. Everybody says, yes, mister Kimmel, No, 174 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 2: mister Kimmel, right away, mister kim A, you're so funny 175 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 2: mister Kimmel, Oh my gosh, didn't you know that I 176 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 2: was Jimmy Kimmel. I'm extremely important, Jimmy Kimmel, and he 177 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 2: believed it. Never believe your own hype, kids, Never believe 178 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 2: your own hype. And so after that conversation, after hearing that, 179 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 2: Dana Walden gathered the executive team. She gathered the senior 180 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 2: executives and said, ah, this is gonna be a problem. 181 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 2: They discussed staff safety, according to The Wall Street Journal, 182 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 2: including threatening emails to the staff on Kimmel's show. Don't 183 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 2: threaten the staff, it's ridiculous. Don't send death threats. It's 184 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 2: just dopey as can be. Don't threaten violent, don't do that. 185 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 2: But they were concerned. So she got the team together 186 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 2: and they called Bob Iger, the chief executive over at Disney, 187 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 2: and that's when they decided. Dana Walden, Bob Iger, they 188 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 2: decided to take Jimmy Kimmel off the air. Wasn't Brendan Carr, 189 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 2: it was Igern Walden. Jimmy Kimmel did this to himself. 190 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 2: Jimmy Kimmel so believed that Jimmy Kimmel should be able 191 00:13:55,160 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 2: to say anything that he never once asked, wait, isn't 192 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: there something bigger than me out here? What about these people? 193 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 2: What about the responsibility I have to them? Nope, didn't care, 194 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 2: And I would argue, still doesn't care, still doesn't care. 195 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 2: Supposedly he's living. Okay, you're living, that's that's fine. You 196 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 2: be livid, and then you have people going out there like, uh, oh, 197 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 2: what's his name? Oh the guy who's gonna there, he 198 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 2: is there is his name is Stephen Colbert, and well 199 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 2: he's got a story to tell. We are all Jimmy Kimmel. 200 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 2: I think the correct answer Stephen is, oh, no, we're not. 201 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 2: We're not all Jimmy Kimmel. Not all of us lie, 202 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 2: Not all of us believe in our own self importance, 203 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 2: Not all of us don't care about the people we 204 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 2: work with and the responsibilities we have to those people. 205 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 2: We're not all Jimmy Kimmel. We're not. So now that 206 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 2: we know the story, now that we know the scene, 207 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: now that we know that Kimmel did this to himself, 208 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 2: can I stop thinking about it? Guys, stop discussing. And 209 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 2: the answer is no, because we would think, all right, 210 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 2: he got fired and that's that. According to CNN ABC 211 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 2: is having a conversation about when they can bring him back. 212 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 2: Why would you bring him back? Isn't late night dying? 213 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 2: Why would you bring him back? He hates half the 214 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 2: audience and can't gather you an audience that can actually register. 215 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 2: He's falling behind everybody according to how I am, how 216 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 2: people are discussing and reporting of the ratings. Why would 217 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 2: you bring him back? For what purpose? Damage control? Because 218 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 2: he's going to say something nice the next time? Oh 219 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 2: oh yeah, the story is not done. Keep it here. 220 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 2: This is Tony Kats today. The FTC and a group 221 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 2: of state attorneys general are suing Ticketmaster, and I, for 222 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 2: one must say, that's you know what more applause than that, 223 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 2: that's excellent stuff. I am absolutely thrilled. Now I don't 224 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 2: buy many tickets, as I was explaining to just a 225 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 2: moment ago to people watching the live stream, all right, 226 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 2: I actually have gone to more concerts in the past 227 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 2: couple of years than I have really in my life. 228 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, I get why people like them. 229 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 2: It's just never been my want. But the fees charged 230 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 2: by Live Nation buy Ticketmaster are surreal, and there's this 231 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 2: real I mean, the level of control and everything else. 232 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 2: Ticketmaster controls eighty percent or more of the major US 233 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 2: concert venues primary ticketing, and consumers spend more than eighty 234 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 2: two point six billion dollars buying Ticketmaster buying tickets from 235 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 2: Ticketmaster between twenty nineteen and twenty twenty four. That's a 236 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 2: lot of that's a lot of tickets. The question is 237 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 2: not whether or not the company can go about charging. 238 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 2: The question is whether or not we are engaged in 239 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 2: a level of competition within It's a great example by 240 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 2: monopoly power, So awful, and why I don't want the 241 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 2: government controlling anything. Because if government controls, government sets price, 242 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 2: price can always go up and there's nothing you can 243 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 2: do about it. This level of control is the issue. Now. 244 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 2: The artists will tell you that they're the ones being abused. 245 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 2: They're the ones who are at a loss because not 246 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 2: only are they at a financial loss, they can't then 247 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 2: go about making changes to make it easier on their 248 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 2: own fan base, and the fan base gets upset with them. Now, 249 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 2: some of these bands charge an insane amount for tickets. 250 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 2: I mean a massive amount, more than I would think 251 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 2: anybody would ever pay. But this is a question of control. 252 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 2: I argue that this is the same conversation regarding Visa 253 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 2: and MasterCard about their levels of control, specifically if businesses 254 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 2: and what you can and can't do to accept our card. 255 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 2: Why what that's that is nutty. But I want to 256 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 2: see how this plays out and see if it opens 257 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 2: up opportunity. That's where I'm at. This is Tony kats today. 258 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 2: House of Representatives. They pass the bill to avoid a 259 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 2: government shutdown. Now it's up to the Senate, and if 260 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer, who leads the Democrats very badly, by the way, 261 00:19:55,600 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 2: if he wants to push to not vote for this 262 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 2: continuing resolution, let it be said that he hates the military, 263 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 2: doesn't care what happens to military families who won't get paid. 264 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 2: He wants to shut down the country. He's an obstructionist, 265 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 2: and it's all Chuck Schumer's fault. It's all the Democrats fault. 266 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 2: Let's remember that going into the midterms. Don't worry. We'll 267 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 2: remind you just like that. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, 268 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 2: what's going on? Everybody? Two seventeen to twelve was the vote. 269 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 2: You had two Republicans voting nay. One of those was 270 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 2: Thomas Massey. I for one, I'm shocked. The other one 271 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 2: is Victoria Sparts from the fifth District of Indiana. Full disclosure, 272 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 2: it's my member of Congress. What are you doing too 273 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 2: much spending? Your team can't put together a budget. You can't. 274 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 2: You're not going to get me to disagree that we're 275 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 2: spending too much. You can't get me to disagree with that. 276 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: But the issue here was CR and not budget in 277 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 2: and of itself. And what you have to do is 278 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 2: go about winning elections and creating a much greater majority 279 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 2: so you can move some of these things through the 280 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 2: CR is because of what's going on in the Senate. 281 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 2: Let's go get sixty three seats in the Senate and 282 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 2: then let's do some real cutting. It's not that I 283 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 2: don't want to do the cutting. I want the cutting 284 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 2: to happen right now. You're please don't confuse the two 285 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 2: things that I'm saying dealing with the reality, and the 286 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 2: reality is that voting against this didn't help. It didn't win. 287 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 2: A Democrat, Jared Golden I believe his name is, of Maine, 288 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,239 Speaker 2: came over and voted with the Republicans. So you can 289 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 2: at least say this was a bipartisan piece of legislation 290 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 2: a by partisan continuing resolution, and the politics dictate that 291 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 2: you have to say, Chuck Schumer wants to shut down 292 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 2: the country. Why does Chuck Schumer hate America? Now? I 293 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 2: know Chuck Schumer hates America because I've seen him try 294 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 2: and make a cheeseburger. And if you don't remember the photo, 295 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 2: there was a picture of him saying, hey, happy happy 296 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 2: fourth of July from me, your Senator Chuck Schumer. He 297 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 2: always does that. It's just so horrific. I'm sorry. I 298 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 2: have to suffer through it. You have to suffer through it. 299 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 2: We're in this together. Dang it. Don't you forget it. 300 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 2: Never forget how much I love you, booboo, Never ever forget. 301 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 2: But it was his video, Hey happy fourth of July. 302 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 2: And he's standing on his balcony or wherever it is 303 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 2: his apartment, who knows, and he's making a cheeseburger. The 304 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 2: patty is on the grill, the patty is raw, the 305 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 2: pizza cheese is on it. Now, let's say you're only 306 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 2: a casual griller. You're not out there every weekend making things. 307 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 2: No no no no no no no no no no no 308 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 2: no no no no no no, no, your casual. In 309 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 2: the history of making a burger on a grill, have 310 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 2: you ever put the cheese on the burger patty before 311 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 2: it was mostly cooked? That? No, no, you have not, 312 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 2: nor has America. They everything's up front. It's like Tim Walls, Hey, 313 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 2: look at me. I'm hunting and I just bought all 314 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 2: this gear from Cabellas. The gear was so clean. He 315 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 2: was glowing because Tim Wall's problem was he wasn't white enough. 316 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 2: Pin it all on Schumer. Take the political victory. That's 317 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 2: the only thing you've got right now, the only thing. 318 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 2: And then there was this that elected officials have been 319 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 2: arrested during ice protests in New York. A public advocate 320 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 2: and a bunch of others, including the comtroller. We're trying 321 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 2: to gain access to the tenth floor or something called 322 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 2: twenty six Federal Plaza, where they say that federal immigration 323 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 2: officials have, as the reporting goes, inhumanely and illegally detained 324 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 2: thousands of immigrant New Yorkers. Stop on the tenth floor 325 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 2: of a building. There are a thousand, thousands of illegal 326 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 2: immigrants being detained. That's that's one big building. That's a 327 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 2: that's like data center, big and also, no, they don't 328 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 2: call them illegal immigrants. They just say immigrants because they 329 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 2: never are honest about the issue of a legal immigration, 330 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 2: never ever, ever, ever, This afternoon, writes the Office of 331 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 2: the Public Advocate, I faced the rest alongside dozens of 332 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 2: New Yorkers in a non violent civil disobedience to demand 333 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 2: oversight of ICE's inhumane detention practices even under this creeping 334 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 2: authoritarianism regime, not authoritarian regime. Authoritarianism regime. I expect to 335 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 2: be released today to go home to my family, But 336 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 2: the people were fighting for don't have that privilege. As 337 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 2: ICE disappears and deports them, you get to go home, 338 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 2: per family. We were held for forty five minutes on 339 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 2: what are you going to say? They didn't even give 340 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 2: me water. It's play acting, something that I will get 341 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 2: into coming up. But understand, as we discuss, there is 342 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 2: no term turning down the temperature. Trump authoritarian, Trump, fascist, 343 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 2: republican authoritarian, republican fascist. It's about turning it up because 344 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 2: this is all they have. Democrats raise alarm about Trump's 345 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 2: crackdown on free speech, calling it fascism. Let us engage 346 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 2: a couple of important points here that are worthy the 347 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,479 Speaker 2: firing of Jimmy Kimmel is not an attack on free speech. 348 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 2: Jimmy Kimmel is not entitled to a television show. I 349 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 2: am not entitled to a radio show. No one is 350 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 2: entitled to except life, liberty in the pursuit of happiness, 351 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 2: and the rights that belonged to them by nature and 352 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 2: Nature's God. That's a pretty basic concept. We should always 353 00:26:54,640 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 2: remember that there is a station that I am contracted with. 354 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 2: There's a syndication deal I have with other stations. It's 355 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 2: a deal. The deal doesn't work out anymore, well then 356 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 2: I'm done, or maybe I've dropped that station for another station, 357 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 2: which I'm not dropping any stations. I have fantastic affiliates, 358 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 2: And thank you. Thank you, by the way, Jimmy Kimble. 359 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 2: That's how you do it. Thank you, affiliates, Thank you. 360 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 2: The free speech conversation comes into play if we think 361 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 2: that government should be playing a role. There was a 362 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:51,479 Speaker 2: story about the Center from Wyoming, Cynthia. Oh gosh, what 363 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 2: is her last name? I can't remember her last name. 364 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna figure it out, and she stays did that 365 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 2: she was long a believer, of course, in free speech, 366 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 2: but with the way things are happening now, she's not 367 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 2: so sure, and the story came from Semaphore. Kimmel's suspension 368 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 2: prompts free speech republicans to reconsider their boundaries. I'm like, well, 369 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 2: that's an ugly headline. What exactly is being stated in 370 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 2: that headline? Cynthia Lumans lummis saying that an FCC license, 371 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 2: it's not a right, it's really a privilege. That is true. 372 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 2: You're not guaranteed an FCC license. And in our world today, 373 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 2: the FCC takes care of things that are broadcast cable 374 00:28:55,640 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 2: news online. These don't have those rules and regulations. And 375 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 2: the comment was under normal times and normal circumstances, I 376 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 2: tend to think that the First Amendment should always be 377 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 2: sort of the ultimate right and that there should be 378 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 2: almost no checks and balances on it. I don't feel 379 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 2: that way anymore, and she continues, I feel like something's 380 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 2: changed culturally, and I think that there need needs to 381 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 2: be some cognizance that things have changed. We just can't 382 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 2: let people call each other those kinds of insane things 383 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 2: and then be surprised when politicians get shot and the 384 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 2: death threats they are receiving, and then trying to get 385 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 2: extra money for security. Wow, there's a lot you just 386 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 2: wrote in there or put in their center illumits. But 387 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 2: allow me to correct you. And when I say correct you, 388 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 2: I mean it under normal times and normal circumstances. What 389 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 2: were the normal times and what were the normal circumstances 390 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 2: that you were referring to. If I take a look 391 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 2: at the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, Congress 392 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 2: shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or 393 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 2: the prohibiting of I'm sorry, Congress shall make no law 394 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 2: respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, 395 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 2: or abridging the freedom of speech or of the press, 396 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 2: or the right of the people peacefully to assemble and 397 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 2: to petition the government for a redress of grievances. When 398 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 2: that was written, they were in a fight with King George, 399 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 2: the most massive military of the world had at that moment, 400 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 2: and they were fighting with pitchforks, and they said, free speech. 401 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 2: You're telling me the moment now is all of a sudden, 402 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 2: so perilous and so fraud. Could we at least argue 403 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 2: that the moment is equally as perilous and fraud If 404 00:30:54,880 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 2: we're even going to say that. One of the reasons 405 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 2: I'm a conservative and not a progressive, not a populist, 406 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 2: is that there has to be a standard that we 407 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 2: adhere to, and the standard is the First Amendment. The 408 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 2: issue is not what is being said. The issue is 409 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 2: how people are responding to what is being said. The 410 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 2: issue is not the gun. The issue is the people 411 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 2: out there who say, I don't like what's happening, and 412 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 2: I'm going to go do harm to them and damage 413 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 2: to them because of what they're saying. Millions of law 414 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 2: abiding gun owners and people want to say, well, the 415 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 2: problem is the gun. It's not, it's the people. The 416 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 2: problem is in the First Amendment. The problem is the 417 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 2: people who want to react to it with violence. Senator, 418 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 2: what the hell are you doing? Has something changed culturally, yes, 419 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 2: which means something has to be fixed culturally. And that 420 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 2: doesn't mean the removal of rights, not now, not ever. 421 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 2: And if it means voting you out, Ba Felicia, you 422 00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 2: gotta go. The Constitution has to remain and any argument, 423 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 2: any arguments that starts with what We've got this problem. 424 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 2: So what we have to do is have less rights, 425 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 2: you know, to protect the people. It was Franklin who said, 426 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 2: those willing to give up liberty for security will get 427 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 2: none and deserve neither. It's the paraphrase, yep, yep, in 428 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 2: the most clear ways one can say it. The constitution 429 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 2: is our issue is indeed cultural. That fix is tough, 430 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 2: but no fix will come by the removal of rights. 431 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 2: That's what progressives think, and they are wrong. I'm Tony Katz, 432 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 2: and this is Tony Katz. Today President Trump and Jeshanping 433 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 2: had themselves. They had a chat. The call was a 434 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 2: very good one, says President Trump. Tony Katz. Tony Katz today, 435 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 2: what were they talking about? They were talking about the 436 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 2: Tickli talks. I just completed a very productive call with 437 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 2: President g of China. We may progress on many very 438 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 2: important issues, including trade, fentanyl, the need to bring the 439 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 2: war between Russia and Ukraine to an end, like they 440 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 2: care about that. And the approval of TikTok. Which approval 441 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 2: are we referring to here? It's sale who's going to 442 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 2: be in charge of it? Now we're admitting that China 443 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 2: does indeed own TikTok and Senator Ran Paul was mistaken 444 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 2: all along. So they've got an approval, but an approval 445 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 2: for what I also agreed with President G that we 446 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 2: would meet at the APEC summit in South Korea, that 447 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 2: I would go to China in the early prior of 448 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 2: next year, and that President G would likewise come to 449 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 2: the United States. I wonder if San Francisco is going 450 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 2: to roll out the communist carpet, call it the red carpet. 451 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 2: But you know, like they did the last time, what 452 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 2: is the deal that is going to be agreed to. 453 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 2: This is the second call that Trump has had with 454 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 2: G since returning to the White House, and of course 455 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 2: conversations about tariffs. Trump's China policy term one was I 456 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 2: think far more direct and focused and effective than what 457 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 2: we've seen so far. In term two, I need him stronger. 458 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 2: They're stealing their theft. This has to be dealt with. 459 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 2: But there also is a bit of delicateness because you've 460 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 2: got still a lot of stuff that comes out of China. 461 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 2: You still have trade to deal with China. You want 462 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 2: to be able to open up some of those markets, 463 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 2: but you can't trust the communist Chinese. And I would 464 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 2: argue that China will never ever have any kind of 465 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 2: respect for kindest, decency, morality. The only thing that they 466 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 2: would understand in the same way this is arguing about 467 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 2: Putin is strength and some things that have to happen 468 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 2: is that communist Chinese nationals cannot own land or business 469 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 2: in the United States. I want to see that happen. 470 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 2: We may still have trade with them, but it's very 471 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 2: much We've got our eye on you. They steal. I 472 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 2: don't believe we have to pay them back any dollars 473 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 2: whatever we borrowed from them. They got back an intellectual 474 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 2: property theft, and of course the killing of US citizens 475 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 2: via COVID. The debt is paid, We're done. These are 476 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 2: the things that I would like to see. But as 477 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 2: for the TikTok to y'all, I don't know what it is, 478 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,439 Speaker 2: but if China still owns any part of it, it's 479 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 2: a terrible deal. We will find out more to get 480 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,720 Speaker 2: to this is Tony Katz today.