1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: So lawmakers are continuing testimony at the state House on 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: the bill that would ban kids from using cell phones 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: in schools altogether if it becomes law. So under this proposal, 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: students would either leave phones at home or have to 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: put them in secure storage until the school day ends. 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: I've got mixed feelings about this because, on the one hand, 7 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 2: there is a broad variety of ways in which cellular 8 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: devices can be misused by the utes in the classrooms. However, 9 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: we also live in a crazy world full of child kidnappers, 10 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 2: full of school shooters, full of people with ill intent, 11 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 2: and there is a lot of value with parents being 12 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: able to communicate with their children in crisis, and that 13 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 2: cell phone is your lifeline between the parent and the child. 14 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: How you strike a balance between these things is a 15 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: tricky question to navigate, and also one that begs the 16 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 2: question whether the state should even be involved or is 17 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: this strictly an issue for parents and schools to deal with. 18 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you've got supporters who are saying that the 19 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: unrestricted phone use distract students, harms learning, and that there 20 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: need to be clear boundaries for students. They argue it 21 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: would improve education without costing the state money However, opponents 22 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: are arguing that schools should just enforce the existing rules 23 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: and that lawmakers should not micro manage districts. Now, when 24 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: I was growing up, you had tornado drills where you'd 25 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 1: line up in the hallway. Now the drills are active 26 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: shooter drills. And are you telling me that there's going 27 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: to be a law that prohibits me from communicating with 28 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: my child while they're in school? No? Thanks, Yeah, I 29 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: believe that this goes back to the home and parents 30 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: needing to teach their children respect and the reason they're 31 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: at the school, and that is to learn and get 32 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: a good education. If that is implemented at home, there 33 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: should be no worries about what goes on in the school. 34 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: It's so it feels nanny state to me. Don't tell 35 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: me I can't talk to my child when they're at school, 36 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: and the need arise. 37 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 2: And that is the central issue, because you are taking 38 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: away that lifeline of communication between parents and their children. 39 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 2: But on the other hand, I mean, look at the 40 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: way look at the way that adults you lose productivity 41 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 2: by frittering away their hours on these stupid smartphone devices. 42 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: And we're all the time checking our social media now 43 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 2: and you got videos, and even worse now you have 44 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: reels and little clips, vine snippets of content, short form 45 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: content that you just doom scroll through endlessly, and it 46 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: ends up eating a huge amount of time away and 47 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: productivity way from functioning rational adults. If you put these 48 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 2: devices in the hand of children who inherently do not 49 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 2: have as well developed of a judgment center, think about 50 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: the way, let's sup control less self control, and you're 51 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 2: giving it to them. In a classroom environment, the teachers 52 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: have less ability to parents and discipline the children. You know. 53 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 2: Ever before you've taken away a huge amount of classroom 54 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 2: control for them, and then on top of it, you're 55 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 2: giving these kids access to cell phones. So mixed feelings. 56 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: But smaller government is usually a better government, So ultimately 57 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 2: leaving that responsibility in the hands of parents probably the 58 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 2: better way to go. But I understand the reasoning behind 59 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 2: the bill, the bad position that the educators are in. 60 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so you've got Democrats, state Rep. Tanya Faft. 61 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: She's in favor of SB seventy eight, which is the 62 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: Wireless Communication Device Policy. 63 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 3: Thank you, miss chair. I also think one thing we 64 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 3: haven't talked about is the fact that if we pass 65 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 3: this built everyone's on the same page. Employers aren't texting 66 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 3: their kids, their workers during the day, parents aren't texting 67 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 3: their kids during the day. Teachers know that we don't 68 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 3: have to fight that fight every single period. Put your 69 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 3: phone away, take your AirPods out. I mean to me, 70 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 3: this is a message that says we value education and 71 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 3: we need our students to learn. So I just wanted 72 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 3: to throw that in and thank you for your testimony. 73 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 2: Is that a psa of an endorsement? 74 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 3: Is that? What? 75 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: Sure? 76 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 3: I am one hundred percent for this bill, and I 77 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 3: would just like to tell you that I had two 78 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 3: pages yesterday that were former high school students of mine, 79 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 3: their sophomores, and I tell them about this bill and 80 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 3: they are completely against it, which means we should pass this. 81 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: So, yes, value education, But when have bands ever worked. 82 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 1: Isn't that going to make the kids just go towards 83 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: the phone even more? 84 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 2: Oh, Valbellion, Yeah, much the same way that the war 85 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 2: on drugs is completely backfired. The war on phones just 86 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: send them in the arms of technology even further. Because 87 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 2: you tell kids not to do something, that's the first 88 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: thing they do. That's also just human nature.