1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,679 Speaker 1: Well, the special session is off to a fabulous start. 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 2: I don't think it's off to a start at all. Actually, oh, you're. 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: Right, don't even know when it's going to be off 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: to a start. 5 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, they had, well, Governor Mike bron had announced that 6 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 3: it would be November third, right, Initially, Yeah, there was 7 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 3: a suggestion. It was a soft suggestion. You have to 8 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 3: learn the difference. There's the hard suggestion and the soft suggestion. 9 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: So that's like, you really should do this. The hard 10 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: suggestion is you will do this. So he had soft 11 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 1: suggested November third. Now, in all seriousness, here is how 12 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: a special session works in the state of Indiana. There 13 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: is a forty day window from whenever the governor declares 14 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: the special session. So that's when the clock starts ticking. 15 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: They have forty days to get done from that time. 16 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: They could wait fifteen days to start, they could wait 17 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: twenty days to start, they could wait five days to start. 18 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: They just have forty days to get it done from whatever. 19 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: So this is like, you know, look, it made the headlines. 20 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: It's this huge deal. You could look at it and say, 21 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: is it a bad look to say we're going and 22 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: then not go that day? Because they came out yesterday 23 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: Todd Houston, the Speaker of the House, basically said we're 24 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: not going on November third. And it does make sense 25 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: in the sense of, like they said, look, nobody was 26 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: able to plan for this. 27 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 4: Ron makes the announcement. 28 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: Now you got people have jobs, they have maybe somebody 29 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: who's on a vacation, you know whatever. I understand all 30 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: of this. The problem is it's been so it's not 31 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: even this issue, it's every time it gets delayed, and 32 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: which is that's what it's been from the beginning. Is 33 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: essentially a giant delay. It just feeds the anger, it 34 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: feeds the animosity. It Look, they can Braun can come 35 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: on and lie and say whatever he wants about, oh 36 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: the majority of people supported, or oh those polls are wrong. 37 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: His actions tell you what they know where the people are. 38 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: Where they know where the people are. If the people 39 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: were for it from the moment they brought it up, 40 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: they would have sprinted it forward and clim victory. Like 41 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: think about when the last special session was on abortion. 42 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: As soon as the Supreme Court came down what they're ruling, 43 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 1: they basically sprinted to get that process started, declare a 44 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: special session. They did it they got their thing done 45 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: and they went home, and they knew the reason they 46 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: did that. Even if abortion was a controversial issue, their base, 47 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: the Republican Party was united on the issue of life. 48 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: Now you can debate should it be ten weeks, should 49 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: it be you know, eight weeks, should be twelve week? 50 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: Like all those things are fine to debate. It's a worthwhile, 51 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: spirited debate. I think Indiana ultimately got most of it right. 52 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: They've got a pretty strong pro life They came up 53 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: a pretty strong, reasonable pro life piece of legislation. This However, 54 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 1: they don't have a unified position in their own party. 55 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 1: They don't have agreement in their own party. Look, I 56 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: don't think anybody's gonna dispute. Rob Kendall is about as 57 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: conservative and liberty mind as you can get. And I 58 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: think redistricting is a horrible idea, and there's many many 59 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: people who feel the same way as me. So the 60 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: problem they have is to this day, he still don't 61 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: not for the votes in the Senate utnification. 62 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 3: I thought it was reported by some people that Donald 63 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 3: Trump was planning on calling some of the holdouts. 64 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 1: And say what, please have I told you about Ted? 65 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: Do it for Ted? 66 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: Tiny Taddy died. 67 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 2: The carrot and the stick. And if you don't, but 68 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 2: what I mean, we've seen. 69 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: Look, these these people in Washington, d C. Don't know 70 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: how to read tea leaves and they don't know how 71 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: to work with the local lawmakers here because people don't 72 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: like to be told what to do. 73 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 3: Well, they've been giving soft suggestions, yeah, but now they're 74 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 3: going to give the hard ones. 75 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: But they have been doing it in a manner that 76 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: alienates the votes that you need to flip. Look, there 77 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: are a group of dumbasses who will be a who 78 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: will be wowed by going to the White House. Someone 79 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: like a Jim Lucas will be totally wowed by being 80 00:03:58,120 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: able to go to the White House. 81 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 2: He should go again, show off as new tattoo. 82 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: Look at how cool it is that I got to 83 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: go do this. But the people you need to actually 84 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: get to make the difference, they're not going to be 85 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: wowed by that. There's a group of people who are 86 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: in these swing Senate districts that lean Republican, that vote Republican, 87 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: who have clearly heard from their constituents that they are 88 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: not in favor of it, or at least there is 89 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: no strong push for it, and they have said, no, 90 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: we're not doing this because there's no upside for me 91 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: to do this. I'm not running for Congress. I I 92 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: I am where I want to be. My leadership doesn't 93 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: even support this, so why you know, I like being 94 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: a committee chair or having this ability. I'm not going 95 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: to go against the bosses. And they're handling it all 96 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: all wrong. And look, they've they've already lost even if 97 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: they win, because this has been such a ridiculously long, 98 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: painstaking process, and you've kind of exposed to the public 99 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: that nobody really wanted to do this. 100 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 2: So the next regular session begins to in January. You've 101 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 2: got ORG Day scheduled for. 102 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 3: November eighteenth, so then they knew they had to be there. 103 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: Anyway on that day. Yeah, and look, I don't so 104 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 2: that my money's on that day. 105 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: I'm not convinced this is going to be a long process. 106 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: I think Rod Bray, the pro tim the leader of 107 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: the Senate who is it's very clear he's against this, 108 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: and it's going to depend on how strong a flex 109 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: he wants to make. Bray will have the ability to 110 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: sink redistricting if he wants to do that, and it 111 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: is There is more at play than just redistricting. It 112 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: is the bat I'm not trying to make it out 113 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: like some sci fi movie, but it's the battle for supremacy. 114 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: Ron is trying to bully and dare the lawmakers into 115 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: doing something. 116 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 2: He's not even getting named in the tweet from the governor. 117 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: Oh this is great. 118 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 3: So I appreciate the leadership of Speaker Houston and House 119 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 3: Republicans as they prepare for the upcoming special session. 120 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, did you notice I caught that. I love that 121 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: that he deliberately, he being Mike Braun did not name 122 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: Senate Republicans or the pro tim the leader of the Senate, 123 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: Rod Bray. These guys do not understand how to work 124 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: with the Senate. It's why. It's why, well, there's numerous reasons, 125 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: but it's a major reason the property tax bill failed. 126 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: They didn't go about it the right way. They didn't 127 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: behind the scenes work the way it needed to be worked. 128 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: And when you couple that with Braun's inability to fire up, 129 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: I mean, look, we were the people getting people fired up. 130 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: Braun was doing nothing. Those fireside chats were ridiculous. We 131 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 1: told him they were ridiculous, Like. 132 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 4: He was so. 133 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: Uninspiring in his promotion of the property. 134 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 2: Tax you to go to him for motivation. 135 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: Well, I mean I told you at the time, Casey 136 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 1: and I think we even said on the air, was like, 137 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: this is not good. This is not the right way 138 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: to do this. I would not be doing this way. 139 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: And so all they're going to do is piss these 140 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: people off. And you're not going to bully or intimidate them, 141 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: or it's going to be very hard to bully and 142 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: intimidate them, and they're going to be more inclined to say, Okay, 143 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: that's cute. Here's your big John McCain shakey thumbs down. 144 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: Enjoy the maps as they currently exist. 145 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 3: So Canada filing for the twenty six primary opens January seventh. 146 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 3: You've got some people who are ready to go, like 147 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 3: Jennifer Ruth Green. 148 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: Well, and I don't think that's helpful that she sprints 149 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: out and says I'm running for Congress while they're still 150 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: you know this inspector General. So Jennifer Ruthgan, most people 151 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: know this, but for those who don't. Jennifer Ruth Green 152 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: ran for Congress in the first Congressional district, which is 153 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: the Chicago Land area, which is one of the districts 154 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: that they're looking at altering. She lost by almost six 155 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: percentage points. She then, as so many people in the 156 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: government do, failed upwards into a cushy two hundred and 157 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: seventy five thousand dollars job in the braw administration, despite 158 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: being a complete moron. But they were trying to elevate 159 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: her because she was the chosen one to get her 160 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: into elected office. And from the moment, basically from the 161 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: moment she got there, based on this Inspector General report 162 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: and the agreement she signed with the Braun administration, the 163 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: what do they call that PIP, the PIP, the Performance 164 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: Improvement Plan, she started playing fast and loose with the rules. 165 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: From the moment she got there, they bounced her out, 166 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: and her immediate reaction is must grift, grift, must continue. 167 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: I know, I'll run for Congress for Congress. And so 168 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: people look at this and go again, why would we 169 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: go to all this effort if that's the sort of 170 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: person we're going to get in the Congress. 171 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think when it comes to this date moving around, 172 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 3: I mean, you have to be understanding. They have other jobs, 173 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 3: they have other responsibilities, they have a life outside. 174 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: Of being legislators. They're part time. 175 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll get to it, Yeah, and most likely on 176 00:08:58,360 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 3: November eighteenth. 177 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: It's one of these things where it's newsworthy because it's 178 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: going to be a monumental event in this state no 179 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: matter what happened. I mean, look, it's fascinating because either 180 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: one of two things is going to happen. There is 181 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: no middle ground on this. Either you are going to 182 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: see an altering of congressional maps, which will change the 183 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 1: political landscape in this state, likely likely netting two Republican 184 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: seats in the short term, or you will see a colossal, 185 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 1: embarrassing failure for the governor of the state of Indiana, 186 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: the likes we have never seen in the state. It's 187 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: going to be fascinating to see what comes of this, 188 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: and those are the only two outcomes that can be 189 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: of this. I am enthralled on what's going to actually happen, 190 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: and I actually I have no gut feeling on it 191 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: either way. It's very rare. I'm in this position, but 192 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: I have no gut feeling because. 193 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 2: Well that shows you the lack of passion. 194 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, because on one day and I can't see it 195 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: them letting Braun well, like, I can't see Braun being 196 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: this brazen about it with it failing, because it will, 197 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: he will be done. Just pack it up. He might 198 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: as well just I mean, I don't want him to 199 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: do that because then Beckwith would be in charge. But 200 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: he might as well, just like you know those mob 201 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: bosses that are put out to pastor and they just 202 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: spend their days, you know, playing cards while someone else 203 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: runs the you know, runs the family. He might as 204 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: well just become that because he's done if this fails. 205 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: But I, like, I just I can't both of these outcome. 206 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 1: But I also can't see Rod Bray just rolling over 207 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: and playing dead for this guy. And he is essentially 208 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: trying to big time him. The Governor's trying to big 209 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: time the leader of the Senate and bully him, And 210 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: I can't see Rodbray going for that either. I'm so 211 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: excited for. 212 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 3: This Casey, We've got drones, candy, and casinos. 213 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 2: We'll talk about those things coming up from ninety three WYBC. 214 00:10:55,679 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 4: Beva the hot Take. 215 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one of my favorite Elvis songs. 216 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 5: Is there really? 217 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: My dear friend Shane, who runs the radio station in Brownsburg, 218 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: he is a massive Elvis Presley fan and he hates 219 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: that this huh and follow that Dream? Or my two 220 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: favorite Elvis songs because any like real Elvis fan hates 221 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: movie Elvis. 222 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 2: Oh, movie Elvis is fun. 223 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 3: Although if you go back and watch old Elvis movies, 224 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 3: many of them are highly inappropriate by today's standards. 225 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: Yes they are, but I think for like the hardcore 226 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 1: Elvis person, they see movie Elvis as like a caricature. Right, 227 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: It's like a joke, right, And so if you love 228 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: any of the movie Elvis stuff, you just don't understand 229 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: what's going on. So anytime I hear that song, I 230 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: let him know it's playing wherever it's playing at. 231 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 4: And today it's one of my favorite Elvis songs. 232 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 3: Well, good pick by Kevin because he's trying to lead 233 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 3: us into casino talk. 234 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, what's going on with casinos? 235 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 3: Well, there was a new study that was done and 236 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 3: the study says the North Indiana and Indianapolis are the 237 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 3: best places to put a casino. 238 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: Okay, So this is fascinating because the downtown Indianapolis casino 239 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: conversation has been going on for decades now. Like I remember, 240 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: once upon a time I had suffered a serious head 241 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 1: injury and was pondering running for the state Senate in Indiana. 242 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 4: And one of the things that I. 243 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: This is funny the way what one of the Oh, 244 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: it was great. We had an army of people, we 245 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: were going to storm. The best deal was gonna be awesome. 246 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: And then just various I had various encounters. I mean, 247 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: I've told this story right about a very high profile 248 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: lobbyist who I this meeting changed my life where I 249 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: was like, this is a was a major power player 250 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: in the state and schedus. Meeting with this guy goes great. 251 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: He's telling me about, Hey, we've looked at all the 252 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: things you've done. We think it's phenomenal. We think it'd 253 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: be great for the state to take that local stuff 254 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: and bring it to state level. We love the tax cutting, 255 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: we love the infrastructure, all this stuff you did, the 256 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: reforming of government, and it just have this great thing. 257 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: It's like, I'm thinking, all right, man, I got all 258 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: these people, it's going to be a gajillion dollars in 259 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: the war chest. You know WHOA they might even I 260 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: might even have an opponent. People might just all cry, 261 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: you know, mercy and quit. But and then he goes Okay, 262 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: now we got to talk about the issue, and so oh, 263 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: I didn't know there was the issue. And he asked 264 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: me about a very specific thing. It says, well, what's 265 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: your opinion on that? And it's like nothing that even 266 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: come up on the radio. And said, well, I don't know. 267 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 1: I don't really have one yet. And he goes, well, 268 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: whatever your opinion on that issue is is going to 269 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: decide whether I support you or not. 270 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 5: Wow. 271 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: And I said, what I will never forget set this table, 272 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: look at this guy. Wait, wait a second. You're telling 273 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: me all this stuff you've told me for two hours 274 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: and how great I'm doing and blah blah blah. But 275 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: if I have an opinion that you don't like on 276 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: this issue, and they made very clear what the opinion 277 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: that they that they would like on the issue was, 278 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: you're not going to support me and you would support 279 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: the other person, who you admit just totally sucks at 280 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: the job they're currently doing. 281 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 282 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 1: Yes, Oh, And I said, how does that work? I said, well, 283 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: because then you'd be messing with my money. 284 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 2: And he said, I can't stand. 285 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: He said, I love my state and I love my country, 286 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: but I don't love it enough to mess with my money, 287 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: and I walked out of there and I'll just never 288 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: forget this. And I just said, this ain't gonna beat 289 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: the thing for me because I'm all messed with too 290 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 1: many people's money. 291 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 2: We're done here. 292 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: But anyway, pointed all this was, I remember this has 293 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: been what ten years ago that I was pondering doing this, 294 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: and I was saying, our gambling laws are really screwed up, 295 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: like just totally naive on all this, right. I was like, 296 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: our the gambling laws are really screwed up. Why don't 297 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: we just have a casino in downtown Indianapoles, Like, let's 298 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: just pick a really tall building and put it on 299 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: the top of it and think of all the money 300 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: we would make. And I remember this was not a 301 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: gambling lobbyist, but a lobbyist. He totally this is totally 302 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: separate conversation. And it was like, remember in what's the 303 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: Chris Farley movie? 304 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 4: Is it? 305 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: Black Sheep? Where he gets stoned and goes on stage 306 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: with the with the Jamaican singers and starts shouting all 307 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: sorts of totally to p propriate stuff and like they're 308 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: all fired up that he's up there because they say 309 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: and then he just says horrible stuff and they start going. 310 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 2: Noah, that's this guy. 311 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: He just I said, why don't we just put a 312 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: casino on the top of a very tall building in Indianapolis? 313 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: And the guy goes no, And I said, why do not? 314 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: He goes the gambling lobby. People will hate you. I 315 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: was like, why it's gambling because it'll interfere with all 316 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: the other gambling stuff that they have. They they depend 317 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: upon separation of these gambling establishments because it forces people 318 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: to go to these establishments, all of these casinos which 319 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: are mostly separately owned. Like it's sort of like territorial right, 320 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: you don't impede on mine, I don't impede on yours. 321 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: You got this corner of the world, whether Dan Anderson 322 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: or Shelby, you know whatever, Right, Like, we've all got 323 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: our own little piece of the pie, and we don't 324 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: interfere with each other, and we make it so that 325 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: people in that area have to go to our thing. 326 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 2: I was like, this is my corner. Yes, you can 327 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 2: have that corner, but not my. 328 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: And I look back on this down like I was 329 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: so naived all of this because I was learning as 330 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: I was going. 331 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 4: I was like, so wait, a second. 332 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: They'd rather screw the state and cost the state all 333 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: this revenue and development and taxes to protect the lobbies. 334 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 2: It's a very powerful lobby. 335 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: And he was like, yes, idiot, this is how this works. 336 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: We're in it for us. Yeah, we're not in it 337 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: for anything but us, and we're in it to make money. 338 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: I will never forget that. And that's how long this 339 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: conversation about a casino going in downtown indian I mean 340 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: it was going on for years before that too. It 341 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: will never happen. There is no way the gambling lobby 342 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: will ever allow a casino to go in downtown Indianapolis. 343 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 3: Spectrum Gaming Group conducted this study and they were identifying 344 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 3: different zip codes with the highest unmet gaming they want it. 345 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 3: Their two proxy points for relocation were downtown Indianapolis. And 346 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 3: I love it how they describe it the Indiana State 347 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 3: House area, because that's a wise choice. Hey, why not, 348 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 3: they're gambling with our money every day. That was chosen 349 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 3: for proximity to convention center and sports venues. The other 350 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 3: location sotheast northeast Indiana near Auburn, and they said that's 351 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 3: because it's close to Fort Wayne and could also attract 352 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 3: Michigan visitors. 353 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 1: But they tried to do that, didn't They try to 354 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: do that the last legislative session that people came out 355 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 1: were outraged and basically struck the idea of putting a 356 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 1: casino up there. Struck it down anyway. That was just 357 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: when you told me we were gonna do that story. 358 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: I just I just so remember those conversations and that guy. 359 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: I would be just being like, this is. 360 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 4: A simple solution. 361 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: Let's just put on the top of the tallest building. Yeah, 362 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: it was like just a big, beautiful casino. Think of 363 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: all the revenue. 364 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 4: No. 365 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 3: So right now, Indiana currently has access to thirty two casinos. 366 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 3: Fourteen of them are in state, in eighteen are near 367 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 3: neighboring states. 368 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: Okay, let's take a break. When we come back, our 369 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: old pal, Jacob Stewart, columnists for the Indie Star, is 370 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: going to be with us. There's a new group forming 371 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: and their folk in Indiana. Their focus is immigration, but 372 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: not only targeting illegal immigration. They are very concerned about 373 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: legal immigration. And this is a you and I've had 374 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 1: this conversation before that the legal immigration. 375 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 2: Chance was talking a lot about it last night. 376 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: It's got to be looked at because we have serious 377 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: problems with legal immigration in this country as well. We'll 378 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 1: talk about Jacob Stewart. Next, Kennel and Casey Show, ninety 379 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: three WIBC. So there's a push in this country that's 380 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: very prominent about curving illegal immigration. Is legal immigration next? 381 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: Our next guest says that could be on the horizon. 382 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: Kennell and Casey Show. I'm Rob Casey's here. Our old pal, 383 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: Jacob Stewart. Columnist Indie Star joins us now has a 384 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: new piece on this on a group that is targeting 385 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 1: legal immigration in the state of Indiana. Jacob Stewart, Hello. 386 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 5: Thanks for having me on. 387 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: All Right, so you're about this group. They're an anti 388 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: immigration nonprofit, but you're saying the future could not only 389 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: be anti immigration, it could be how we handle legal immigration. 390 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,959 Speaker 6: Right, And I think that was just confirmed last night 391 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 6: when the Vice President spoke about how we need to 392 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 6: bring vastly lower numbers of immigrants into the country, and 393 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 6: he pretty much reiterated many of the talking points that 394 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 6: I heard from this nonprofit, Safe Heritage Indiana. 395 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 1: Okay, so tell us about the group real quick before 396 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: we get into the topic of this Save the Save 397 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: Heritage Indiana. 398 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 6: Sure, So it was founded by Daniel Pointer and Nathan Roberts. 399 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 6: So Daniel Pointer was or is the executive director of 400 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 6: Carbon Neutral Indiana, which is a climate change group, and 401 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 6: Nathan Roberts. 402 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: We're got to be involved in this, isn't it? It is? 403 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 6: I actually met him, I believe it was twenty twenty 404 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 6: two at a meeting of the Citizens Climate Lobby. Needless 405 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 6: to say, I did not expect to reconnect with him 406 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 6: to interview him about this group. But then there's there's 407 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 6: Nathan Roberts, who is actually the twin brother of Nick Roberts, 408 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 6: who's a Democrat on the City County Council. And everyone 409 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 6: that I've talked to you about this has said, wow, 410 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 6: that must be some interesting Thanksgiving. 411 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: Because because they are literally identical twins, right right, and 412 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: and the one brother's a Democrat on the Indianapoli City 413 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: Cutty Council and the other one is I think it's 414 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 1: fair to say, is very conservative. Right Yeah, Okay, So 415 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: they have teamed up for this group, and their focus 416 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: is on how we deal with people legally in the country. 417 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 4: Right. 418 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 6: They are addressing both legal and illegal immigration. Some of 419 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 6: the things they threw out as policy suggestions to me 420 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 6: were a thirty year federal moratorium on immigration, so ending 421 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 6: all federal. 422 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 5: Immigration illegal correct, Yeah. 423 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, and using many many of the same things I 424 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 6: heard from the Vice President to back that up that idea, 425 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 6: and then also some more state level focused things like 426 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 6: Universal Everify, also called the Fairness Act. If you'll remember, 427 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 6: Tom Homan was here a couple of weeks ago at 428 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 6: the state House. Borders are right, Yeah, he was discussing 429 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 6: this very act because it is it's kind of been 430 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 6: a quintessential piece of state level immigration reform for the 431 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 6: Trump administration. And so that's another thing that they said 432 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 6: they support. And I really think that we had to 433 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 6: build this last legislative session that would have done so 434 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 6: that would have had this Universal Everify, and it ended 435 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 6: up getting killed in the committee of Senator Liz Brown 436 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 6: in the Senate, and I talked to some other people 437 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 6: and they kind of pointed to that as a reason why. 438 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 5: We shouldn't be shocked that a group like this is forming. 439 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 6: You know, some people are perceiving that the legislator legislatures 440 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 6: is just not taking action that they should on on 441 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 6: what they perceived to be reasonable immigration reform. 442 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 5: And so now we have a group like this. 443 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: Okay, so Jacobs here from Andy Stars, our guest. He 444 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: has a new piece that's very interesting about it's about 445 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: this group those form they're targeting illegal immigration, but also 446 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: legal immigration in this country. Now, we talk about this 447 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 1: on our show all the time. We say, if you 448 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: live in a suburban community in civil Indiana, there's a 449 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: good chance if you go to your Walmart, it's going 450 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: to look markedly different than it did ten years ago. 451 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: Is there a case to be made that because of 452 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: legal immigration, people who can freely assimilate into society, but 453 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: many times they're not here for good, right, Like they're 454 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: not good, not like that they're trying to do bad, 455 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: but they're not here like permanently. There are on these 456 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: HB one visas or whatever that they are changing the 457 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: makeup of communities, the culture of communities without having to 458 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: have long term universal buy in. 459 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 5: You know, that's a great question. 460 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 6: If you look at our current immigration system, A lot 461 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 6: of what we have, like these work visa programs, originate 462 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 6: from eighties and nineties Reaganomics, the idea that you know, 463 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 6: to support businesses, we need to bring in more people 464 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 6: from out of the country to solve labor shortages to 465 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 6: you know, increased productivity and whatnot. And then more recently, 466 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 6: you know, it's been a question of how do you 467 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 6: even define legal and illegal immigration? Under the Biden administration, 468 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 6: there was a I think a quadrupling of people that 469 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 6: were letting in under the refugee program, and it just 470 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 6: it created an environment where it's not shocking that we're 471 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 6: having discussions like this. 472 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 1: And so yeah, Jacob Sewart for any Star is our guest. Okay, 473 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 1: So you know, and I think about this, like, I 474 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: grew up in a little bitty town on the west 475 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 1: side of Indianapolis. I still live in that town. I 476 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: live one house next to the house I grew up in. 477 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: I'm starting my own compound on that street. But I 478 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: look at that town and there it is nothing like 479 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: the place I grew up. And I get that growth happens, 480 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: but part of the explosive, largely out of control residential growth. 481 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: There are literally neighborhoods in my community where if you 482 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: go into that neighborhood and you can drive around and 483 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: stop and talk to people, a huge portion of these 484 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: people and they will straight up tell you are here 485 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: as I mean, at least not permanent citizens of this country, 486 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: and you see the sort of the remakes of these 487 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 1: communities and not sing these people are doing anything wrong. 488 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: They've been invited to come in. They're not doing anything wrong. 489 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 1: They're filling out all the paperwork, they're following all the rules. 490 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: But you look at this and you say, man, there's 491 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 1: been a literal changing of the landscape, and a lot 492 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: of it. It's easy to boogeyman these illegal immigrants, but 493 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: much of it we as Americans, we as Hoosiers have 494 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: sort of signed off on, right. 495 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 6: And again it goes back to that economic growth aspect 496 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 6: and the prevailing policy among Republicans and Democrats for years. 497 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 6: And I think that also goes back to you kind 498 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 6: of touched on the issue of integration. When you view 499 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 6: immigration solely as a means of fueling economic growth, you're 500 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 6: the predominant group of people. 501 00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 5: That you're going to be bringing in our laborers. 502 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, and so that's why when you are looking at 503 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 6: populous like the Save Heritage Indiana group, there's a lot 504 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 6: of questions about, oh, are they taking opportunities from people 505 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 6: who were born here? And we're starting to see a 506 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 6: shift away from that, I think under the Trump administration 507 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 6: changing some of these work visa programs to be more 508 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 6: focused on investors and bringing investors in lot with lots 509 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 6: of capital to great opportunities rather than take them. 510 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 1: Is part of the problem. Though. You can't put the 511 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: genie back in the bottle, right like, So a very 512 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: high profile this person will be tard and feathered if 513 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: it ever came out they associated with me, so we'll 514 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: never public name them. But a very prominent liberal, I 515 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: think it's safe to say public education leader told me 516 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: that a major issue public schools are having in central 517 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: Indiana is that there will be these developments and they 518 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 1: will look at a price point and a home and 519 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: they will say, well, it's a five hundred thousand dollars home. 520 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: This is gonna be a huge win for our community. 521 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: That's more than the services cost. 522 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 4: What a win. 523 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: But the problem is these people that are living in 524 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: these homes are oftentimes these foreign workers who are not 525 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: here permanently. They're not citizens of this country, and they 526 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: will live three or four families to a home, and 527 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: so that five hundred thousand dollars home, if it produces 528 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: four or five kids to the school system, actually becomes 529 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: the equivalent of one hundred one hundred fifty thousand dollars home, 530 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: which is not paying for the services those people are. 531 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 6: Using, right, Yeah, And I haven't looked too much into 532 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 6: that issue, but I'm sure you know, again with the 533 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 6: integration factor, when people aren't here in the country permanently, 534 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 6: there's less of a reason to integrate into the community. 535 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 3: Jacob, I'm wondering what sort of effect it will have 536 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 3: that Nathan Roberts is related to Nick Roberts. 537 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 2: They're on polar sides of the political spectrum. 538 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that's an interesting thing, you know, in 539 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 6: terms of the average Democrat voter. I don't know if 540 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 6: that will give them pause. He's been very clear that 541 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 6: he disagrees sharply with his brother. You can't pick your family, right, right, right, 542 00:26:58,840 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 6: you can't pick your family. 543 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 5: I think it's really interesting. 544 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 6: You know, I majored in neuroscience in college, and you know, 545 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 6: this is the type of dynamic what in neuroscience. 546 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: That sounds like you should be making a lot more 547 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: than you're making as a newspaper writer. That sort of degree, 548 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: you know, probably less. 549 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 6: I mean, do stem fields these days unless you have 550 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 6: like a doctorate is you can't make a. 551 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 1: Whole my degree is in general studies. 552 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 4: Casey is it? Yeah? 553 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 3: Congratulations. Yeah, So I was in marketing in broadcasting. So 554 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 3: I'm going to say that Jacob is still the smartest one. 555 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 1: In the There's no doubt. No, you can just walk 556 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:35,959 Speaker 1: into a room and you say that guy's the smartest 557 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: guy here. Hey, before I let you go. So this group, 558 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: can they succeed? What does success look like for them? 559 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: What do they want? 560 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 6: I think success is building an institution these They were 561 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 6: very clear to me that, you know, if you are 562 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 6: a hospital lobbyist, you can just go to a hospital, 563 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 6: eight hospitals, maybe get fifty grand to be a lobbyist 564 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 6: for them. With the immigration issue, there's there's really not 565 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 6: many out there that are focusing on that. 566 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 5: And so if they're able to build. 567 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 6: An institution that's able to fund itself from the rather 568 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 6: diffuse support that there is for anti immigration policies, I 569 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 6: think that will be a success in and of itself. 570 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 6: And if they can be a consistent voice in the 571 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 6: state House for legislators who may already be anti immigration, 572 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 6: for them to have something to point to and be like, well, 573 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 6: you know, we have this institution that agrees with us, 574 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 6: and it gives legitimacy to the cause, I think, and 575 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 6: I think that's exactly what would be success for them. 576 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 3: Don't you think that what jd Vance has been saying 577 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 3: lately will give legitimacy as well? 578 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 5: Oh, I had mentioned this earlier that his discussion last night. 579 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, specifically, he cited many of the same points that 580 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 6: Save Heritage Indiana did to me in our conversation, talking about, 581 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 6: you know, becoming one community and things like that when 582 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 6: looking at immigration policy. So I think I think for 583 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 6: sure that that gives me conform that that's sort of 584 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 6: where we're the Republican Party is heading. 585 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: Jacob Stewart find him over at indistar dot com. New column, 586 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: new anti immigration nonprofit signals future of Indiana GOP, Thank you, 587 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: Thank you. 588 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 2: It's Kendelyn Casey on ninety three WIBC. 589 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: So let me let me make sure I've got the 590 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: circle on this right, Okay, if I missed anything, you 591 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: let me know, all right. So Jim or say inherit's 592 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: football team from his dad. His dad gives him the 593 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: football team when he passes away, then we the taxpayers 594 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: give him essentially a free stadium. Not only does he 595 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: get a free billion dollar plus stadium. He then gets 596 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: a sweetheart deal and everything that takes place inside the 597 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: stadium and all the money he gets to keep off 598 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: of that. So then he takes all this money that 599 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,239 Speaker 1: he's made off being given a team, and really all 600 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: the money he's made off being given a stadium, and 601 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: able to keep all this money on the stuff that 602 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: takes place inside the statem also stuff not related to 603 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: Colts games, by the way, And then he uses that 604 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: money and buys a bunch of guitars and other music 605 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: memorabilia because he's super into that with the money that 606 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: he made off of us, the taxpayers giving him a 607 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: free stadium, and then he puts it on display, and 608 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: everybody's like, oh, that's so gracious of him to show 609 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: off the stuff that he bought with the money that 610 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: we gave him as taxpayers. And now his kids are like, yeah, 611 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: we're going to sell that and make a bunch of 612 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: money off of that. Did I get all that right? 613 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: Did I miss any part of that loop there? 614 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:32,959 Speaker 2: I think you got it. 615 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 3: It was like a traveling show and tell right, this 616 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 3: is my stuff. So he did curate a very renowned 617 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 3: collection one hundred and ninety nine guitars and hundreds of 618 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:47,719 Speaker 3: historic artifacts. Guitar World magazine dubbed it the greatest guitar 619 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 3: collection on Earth. 620 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: And you know, there were really worse some people because 621 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: at one point they were talking about a museum or something, 622 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: and people were saying, well, wait a second, you bought 623 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,479 Speaker 1: that off of us, the taxpayer shit, and it be 624 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: here so that we can get some sort of benefit 625 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: off of it. Because I never recall him saying thank 626 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: you taxpayers of Indianapolis and Central Indiana for those tax 627 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: increases that were enacted on you so that I could 628 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: have this free stadium to make all this money, and 629 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: well basically free stadium. I think there may have been 630 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: a little bit of the colts participation in that. But 631 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: have this free stadium or quasi free stadium, and thank 632 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: you for all the generosity from you. And no, I 633 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: don't think I ever said that. He was like, just 634 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: here's my fabulous stuff, and look at all this, Look 635 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: at all that I've acquired. 636 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 3: Some people suggested maybe they make a museum downtown and 637 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 3: any of the tickets for the museum could go towards nonprofit, 638 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 3: but that's not what is happening. 639 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 2: The collection, which is. 640 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 3: Valued at over one billion dollars. What, Yeah, one billion dollars. 641 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 3: It's going to be auctioned off at Christie's New York 642 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 3: starting in March. 643 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: So they got a billion dollars stadium, mostly paid for 644 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: by the taxpayers. Then they got to make all that 645 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: money on everything that happened in the stadium, paid for 646 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: by the taxpayers. And then they bought all this stuff 647 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: with the money that they made off of that, which 648 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: is paid for by the taxpayers. And now they're going 649 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: to make a bunch of money off of it again. 650 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: And we don't like get a little cut on that 651 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: textors don't get a little taste for saying thanks for 652 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: allowing us to have all this stuff. 653 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 3: A portion of the proceeds are going to go to 654 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 3: different philanthropic causes. Yeah, that we're close to Ersashar, He 655 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 3: said he was a steward of the collection. 656 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: Not an owner. 657 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 3: And I mean some of the items are pretty incredible, 658 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 3: guitars that were played by John Lennon, Paul McCartney and 659 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 3: George Harrison, Jimmy Hendrix, Prince Jerry Garcia, Bob Dylan, Kurt Cobain, 660 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 3: Eddie Van Halen, and Eric Clapton. He's also got other 661 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 3: items from Elton, John Ringo, Star John Coltrane, Miles Davis, 662 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 3: Jim Morrison, some more rare memorabilia not music related, like 663 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 3: an Apple Too manual that was signed by Steve Jobs, 664 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 3: Hunter S Thompson's Red Shark convertible, Jack Kerowac's original Manuscriptive 665 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 3: on the Road, Kevin Jack Kerouac's original Manuscriptive on the Road. 666 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 2: We've talked about that book before. Nice different artifacts. 667 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: Do you have some sort of little side conversation I 668 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: wasn't privy to I don't remember. 669 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 4: This conversation we did. 670 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,479 Speaker 1: We had a side what's your deal with that? 671 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 4: You guys like that book or something on the Road. 672 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 5: It's a class you like. 673 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: That's one of your favorite book, it's one of my favorite. 674 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: I didn't know you guys had any connection. 675 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 5: Well, Casey said she was a big fan of it. 676 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, we read rob. 677 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: I'm not sure I like this. I don't like you 678 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: guys having a connection. I did not know this was 679 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: taking place. I'll give you a copy of the book. 680 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 2: There's different artifacts. 681 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: I'm more concerned about you guys getting along and having 682 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: having points of common heality. 683 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 3: You like it when you're able to get Kevin to 684 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 3: team up against me with you doesn't always happen. Sports, memorilia, movies, 685 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 3: all sorts of stuff. 686 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: And we don't get into the taxpayers who provided him 687 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: the ability to essentially make all this most of this 688 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: money that he's used to buy this stuff, we don't 689 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: get any of that back. There's not like a little 690 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: repay plan. 691 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 2: As I mentioned, a portion of the proceeds are going. 692 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: To go to different No, because his version of charity 693 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: might not be something that I like or agree with. 694 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: I'm talking about me, the guy who pays more every 695 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,280 Speaker 1: time I eat out in Central Indiana, and the various 696 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: other taxes that are associate with that stadium. Like, I'd 697 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: like some of my money back since I fronted that. 698 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 1: You know that's how it works with the bank, right, 699 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: Like you give a loan, you front the money out, 700 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: you pay it back. Right, I'd like my money back. 701 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: Since he clearly had enough to buy a billion dollar music, guitar, memorabilia, 702 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: et cetera collection, I'd like my money back. Is that 703 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: unreasonable of me to say I'd like the money back? 704 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 2: Don't hold your breath. I don't believe that's coming. 705 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 3: So Christie's is going to host free public exhibitions as 706 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 3: part of the sale, and a lot of collectors. 707 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: Work, don't touch the merchandise. 708 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 3: They're all turning into Darren ravel right like saying this 709 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 3: is a once in a lifetime opportunity. It's reported at 710 00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,879 Speaker 3: one point he was offered one point one five billion dollars. 711 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 2: For the collection, but he turned that down a. 712 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 1: Few You know, somebody should tell the family. He would 713 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,720 Speaker 1: have wanted the taxpayers to have their money back. 714 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 2: Right, these were his wishes. It is Kenderlly Casey. It's 715 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 2: ninety three WYBC. 716 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:29,439 Speaker 4: I am do no, don't buy