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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Best of the Fan Morning show

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Speaker 1: on ninety three five and one oh seven five the Fan,

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Speaker 1: Good morning, and speaking of the Fan.

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Speaker 2: Later on tonight, it'll be the Hornets and Pacers becoming

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Speaker 2: your Way this evening. Looking forward to that pregame at

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Speaker 2: six thirty tip at seven o'clock. We'll see if the

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Speaker 2: Pacers can get off the snide as they like to say,

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Speaker 2: and we'll continue talking about the Colts and Chris Ballard's

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Speaker 2: got a press conference coming up at eleven o'clock this morning.

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Speaker 2: I want to get back to Indiana and Oregon, which

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Speaker 2: is coming up tomorrow night, guys, and we've talked all

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Speaker 2: about Indiana and the success they've had and the surprise

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Speaker 2: and all those kinds of things. What's also been fun

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Speaker 2: to watch, Kevin are the the alumni, the players that

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Speaker 2: have played in the past, even going back to when

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Speaker 2: they were with the Bill Mallory and went to a

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Speaker 2: couple of bowl games. I think they went last time

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Speaker 2: they went to the Peach Bowl. Bill Mallory was the

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Speaker 2: head coach there. Trent Green, prior to Fernando Mendozo win

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Speaker 2: in the heismand Trophy is Trent Green one of the

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Speaker 2: two or three best quarterbacks that Indiana has ever had.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would assume. I'm mean to answer on Randall

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Speaker 3: l of course, Heisman Trophy vote getter. I think he

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Speaker 3: finished sixth maybe when he was playing in Indiana, but

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Speaker 3: obviously from an NFL career.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, pretty good stuff.

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Speaker 2: So he was he was talking on Serious XM the

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Speaker 2: other day about what it's meant to guys like him

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Speaker 2: that has certainly been Indiana fans all this time and

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Speaker 2: lived through all the struggles and and wore the uniform,

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Speaker 2: and what it's been like to see the turnaround in

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Speaker 2: the state of where Indiana is at this point in time.

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Speaker 4: When I was there, you know, we went to we

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Speaker 4: went to a handful of Bowl games, and Bill Mallory

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Speaker 4: is is is loved in the state of Indiana and

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Speaker 4: at Indiana University for you know, at that time, that

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Speaker 4: was like the success of the program was kind of

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Speaker 4: that era, the Bill Mallory era, and and some of

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Speaker 4: the guys that I played with, and you know, it

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Speaker 4: was you know, it's pretty cool. You know, we all,

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Speaker 4: we all you know, there's different group techs and emails

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Speaker 4: and guys are reaching out and you know the fact

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Speaker 4: of what's going on in the last couple of years.

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Speaker 4: And so to answer your question, no, none of us,

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Speaker 4: none of us can really believe it. And I think,

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Speaker 4: you know, I think when you sit and you listen

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Speaker 4: to to Kurt to Signetti when he's doing his interviews,

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Speaker 4: and he said, you know, I had to change the

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Speaker 4: mindset not only of the team, I had to change

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Speaker 4: the mindset of the university, because the university used to

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Speaker 4: be like when I went there, it was, Hey, we

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Speaker 4: want to try and get to a bowl game, and

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Speaker 4: if we're able to make it to the Rose Bowl,

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Speaker 4: that would be great. So the goal was always the

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Speaker 4: go to the Rose Bowl. So it was, you know, hey,

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Speaker 4: let's let's make a bowl game number one, and then

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Speaker 4: if it's the Rose Bowl, you know, then that's the ultimate.

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Speaker 4: Well there was never hey we're going to try and

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Speaker 4: be a top ten team. We're going to try and

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Speaker 4: be the number one team in the country. Where you know,

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Speaker 4: those kinds of things. And when you listen to Kurt

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Speaker 4: talking the different interviews that he's had, he talks about

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Speaker 4: that mindset and trying to not only change the players

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Speaker 4: changed the state, and change the country. In the way

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Speaker 4: that they look at Indiana football, it says a lot

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Speaker 4: about him and and a lot about the university and

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Speaker 4: how they've redone his contract a couple of times now

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Speaker 4: to keep him because there are a lot of teams,

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Speaker 4: and to duplicate what he's been able to do in Bloomington.

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Speaker 4: And uh, so give credit to the university, uh for

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Speaker 4: that point, but also give him credit because he definitely

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Speaker 4: could get more money somewhere else, but he found found

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Speaker 4: a home in Indiana. He loves what the university does

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Speaker 4: in terms of support and uh yeah, we this is

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Speaker 4: this season. Yeah we none none of us saw this coming.

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Speaker 1: A lot of fun for everyone involved.

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Speaker 2: And I like the fact that, look, Kurtzignette's the guy

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Speaker 2: driving this thing, there is no question about that. But

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Speaker 2: he's gotten support from President Pam Whitten and from Scott

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Speaker 2: turning into kind of the perfect storm right now, Kevin.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we I mean we had and by

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Speaker 3: the way, I think Trent Green might join us next week.

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Speaker 3: Mark was saying on that Sean McDonough tomorrow at this

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Speaker 3: him and Greg McRoy, which that's my favorite crew honestly

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Speaker 3: from a college football standpoint. They'll have the call coming

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Speaker 3: up tomorrow night there from Atlanta. But yeah, I mean

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Speaker 3: you think back to you know, I think we had

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Speaker 3: weeks back or maybe a few months ago at this point,

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Speaker 3: and you know, he had the line of he was

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Speaker 3: that is an important kind of part in all of

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Speaker 3: this of you know, kurtzignetti track record is obviously, you know,

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Speaker 3: speaks for itself. But you know, is he able to

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Speaker 3: get all the JMU guys to come with him if

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Speaker 3: you make that hire when you hired you know whatever,

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Speaker 3: you know, Terry Heppner or Tom Allen or Kevin Wilson

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Speaker 3: or no, that's just not how the landscape of college

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Speaker 3: football works. So you know, and obviously the jam you

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Speaker 3: guys deserve a ton of credit for you know, what

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Speaker 3: they have done, especially last year. Obviously they're still a

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Speaker 3: last year's success, I don't think for Nando mendoz is

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Speaker 3: really is frankly just a lot of capitalism.

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Speaker 2: It's just like I said, perfect storm. You've explained it

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Speaker 2: very well, and James, I know you became a believer

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Speaker 2: when they got the ALIONI. But honestly, this team you

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Speaker 2: team they've played their skill position players. I've said this before.

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Speaker 2: When you look at the two running backs, the three

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Speaker 2: top receivers, they're as good as any skill position group

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Speaker 2: and there are one hundred and twenty minutes away. I

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Speaker 2: get all that, you still have to go win and

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Speaker 2: not make mistakes and keep doing what you're doing. But objectively,

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Speaker 2: they're the best team in the country to this point

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Speaker 2: in time, James, they.

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Speaker 5: Just are, for sure. I'm actually looking at Dangelo Pons

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Speaker 5: his bio on the IU website, and there's a photo

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Speaker 5: of him he must have had a pick or something

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Speaker 5: against Illinois, and him in the end zone with some

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Speaker 2: Say, boyd on the back of the jersey there no,

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Speaker 2: uh nah, okay, I ain't playing no football.

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Speaker 5: Mama made sure I didn't even take charges in high school.

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Speaker 5: I was always the kid lying to my coach, yeah

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Speaker 5: I'll slide over next time. Never was gonna do that.

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Speaker 5: But DiAngelo Pons, I think he's another player that when

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Speaker 5: I look at what he brings to this defense, in particular,

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Speaker 5: a game changer. Kevin and the man is five to nine,

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Speaker 3: And knock Ty Simpson out of the game, right yeah,

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Speaker 5: Made him fumble. And so again, when you think of

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Speaker 5: brings that that extra edge that brings it extra dynamic

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Speaker 5: they're discipline. So when I'm watching IU, even if because

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Speaker 5: for example, the Ty Simpson play was a first down

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Speaker 5: run and in your mind, that's a defeat for the

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Speaker 5: defense at least in that moment you let this guy

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Speaker 5: little momentum, and at that time they did have momentum

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Speaker 5: I was actually reading about this in the Athletic and

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Speaker 5: their players even though they were up against Alabama, like no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 5: we can't drop off because the game is lopsided. We're

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Speaker 5: not gonna have bad habits because the game is lopsided.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna let you do anything out of character because

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Speaker 5: we're up by a million, because those moments turn into

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you brought up earlier in the week. I

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Speaker 3: think if there is one area where I think Oregon

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Speaker 3: to if you give Dante more time, throw the ball

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Speaker 3: not not very often, but we have seen an occasional

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Speaker 3: So I do think that probably would be one question

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Speaker 3: here coming up tomorrow night for Indiana. But you know, again,

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Speaker 3: I think their defensive line is able to disrupt, you know,

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Speaker 3: if you're making your commute down to Atlanta right now,

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Speaker 3: thank you first off for listening to us and give

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Speaker 3: us a call. Three one seven seventy Wings.

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Speaker 5: Magic City. Yeah, Levin Pepper, Hey, Lou Williams left the

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Speaker 5: bubble to try those wins, so you met you.

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Speaker 3: Imagine what the buffet could look like they're before the game.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, man, that's the ultimate.

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Speaker 2: Pregame, right, I'd forgotten about that in the bubble going

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Speaker 2: to get wings.

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Speaker 1: He got kicked out, didn't he You got?

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Speaker 5: I think you had to go quarantine for a while.

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Speaker 3: But hey again, just you quarantining a Magic City boy,

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Speaker 3: you might experience a few things and something more than COVID.

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Speaker 1: John M.

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Speaker 2: Tixton how many of the skilled position players have a

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Speaker 2: legitimate NFL future six.

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Speaker 1: We're not used to seeing this kind of talent.

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Speaker 3: Well, certainly both those you know, first two wide outs.

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Speaker 3: We've talked with Dan Brugler from The Athletic about it.

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Speaker 3: You know, Omark Cooper Junior he mentioned, is you know,

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Speaker 5: He's a Day two guy.

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Speaker 3: Elijah Surat I think would fall maybe just past that.

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Speaker 2: The matchup predictor at ESPN dot com says IU with

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Speaker 2: You don't partake in a lot of this stuff, James,

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Speaker 2: That's the one thing if you're Indiana, you just want

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I just want to play out Indiana's defense

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Speaker 1: Kevin.

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Speaker 2: They can get after you, man, they can certainly get

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Speaker 2: he's electric as a quarterback and he's trying to get

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't understand anything when it comes to the

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Speaker 1: No, everybody's trying to get here right now.

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Speaker 7: So I wonder who America's team is. Is it IU

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Speaker 5: So I think that when you look at this, when

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Speaker 3: That and not just okay. So you have the coaching

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Speaker 3: Are these assistants at LSU? Are they not at LSU?

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Speaker 3: just wild drama. But the Chambliss story is wild. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine going to Key Stadium on a Saturday

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Speaker 3: and you know, I feel like he's kind of taking

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna open it up. And hell you saw that

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Speaker 2: All right, So the semifinals coming away tonight and tomorrow night,

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Speaker 2: be a lot of fun to watch both of those games, obviously,

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Speaker 2: especially tomorrow night. Chris Ballard meeting with the media later

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Speaker 2: on today at eleven a m. Just to remind people

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Speaker 2: to this coming year there, if everything stays the same,

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Speaker 2: they have their first pick will be the forty seventh overall. Kevin,

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Speaker 2: where did they end up in Round one? Sixteen seventeen?

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Speaker 2: Around there is that where the Jets, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Think it's fifteen or sixteen double.

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Speaker 3: Can you move veterans for some extra draft picks? Sixteen sixteen,

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Speaker 3: that's what the Jets are.

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Speaker 1: Right smack in the middle, Kevin with an eight and

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Speaker 3: There it is are for the course, right, We're uh,

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Speaker 2: So that'll be later on today and for those of

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Speaker 5: I think in certain aspects it will be that, but

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Speaker 5: She would probably say no, I think because she's already

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Speaker 3: At this point, the head coach is making twenty million.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he's sixteen seventeen, but he's yet make a lot

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Speaker 5: But yeah, it's definitely update And so I do think

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Speaker 5: And obviously, to be fair to Carly, there's only one

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Speaker 5: way you can answer that question publicly.

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Speaker 1: I saw a couple of sites.

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Speaker 2: John Harbaugh made seventeen million dollars last year, damn Andy.

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Speaker 5: Re People are like, why would you Like for example,

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Speaker 5: when Ben Johnson left the Lions and went to the

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Speaker 5: Bears and it was rough early, people were like, well,

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Speaker 5: why would you leave the Lions Because you got a

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Speaker 5: whole lot of money guaranteed to go be the head coach.

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Speaker 2: He's making thirteen million a years, so but almost signetic

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Speaker 2: money one to ten.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I I things I feel uneducated talking about James

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Speaker 3: medical injuries and you know, pro ownership finances.

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Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I just feel pretty uneducated when it comes to some

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Speaker 3: of that stuff. But I just I feel like it's

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Speaker 3: a little bit more of a factor than maybe we

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Speaker 3: think it is. It's probably the simplest way I can

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Speaker 3: put it. Again, I don't have a strong conviction necessarily it's.

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Speaker 5: A deciding factor, right, Money's.

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Speaker 3: Always a factor. I just think there's a little bit

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Speaker 3: more smoke behind that than maybe. I don't know, maybe

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Speaker 3: people do realize it, but I don't know. I just

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Speaker 3: feel like there was a little bit more there than

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Speaker 3: maybe is there in every other NFL city. It's probably

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Speaker 3: the best way I can put it.

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Speaker 2: All Right, We'll talk more about all of this a

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Speaker 2: little bit later on. In the meantime, let's check it down.

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Speaker 2: Had the Big Ten college basketball double.

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Speaker 1: Header on last night.

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Speaker 2: First game, Indiana beats Maryland eighty four sixty six. Lamar

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Speaker 2: Wilks has scored twenty four points. Tayton Connorway nineteen points,

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Speaker 2: eight rebounds. Connor Right, your guy, you call him, Joe

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Speaker 2: Dirt sixteen points, Covin Read Bailey fifteen point six rebounds.

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Speaker 2: They are now twelve and three, three and one of

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Speaker 2: the Big Ten. They will play a big game at

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Speaker 2: Assembly tomorrow. I'm sorry Saturday against Nebraska at noon.

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Speaker 1: I wanted this to be Friday, so bad a.

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Speaker 3: Big home game against Nebraska. Well, we have a big

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Speaker 3: IU football game on January ninth, and we have a

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Speaker 3: big home basketball game against Nebraska. What year is this?

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Speaker 3: What planet are we on? What are they believe in

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Speaker 3: real life? On other planets?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: You do believe in shifting timelines because we might be

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Speaker 2: in one.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'll say this, if they're other life out there,

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Speaker 5: they're not coming here to pay bills with us, so

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Speaker 5: they'll stay away.

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Speaker 3: What higher curtsing namd be the mayor of Mars?

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Speaker 1: They might take a look at that Dick Tator.

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Speaker 3: Honestly.

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Speaker 2: Also, last night, fifth Length, Perdue and eighty one seventy

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Speaker 2: three win at Mackie.

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Speaker 1: They meet Washington by eight, but they led by.

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Speaker 2: Twenty two at one point and really just kind of

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Speaker 2: coasted at home. Brayden Smith big Night was honored as

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Speaker 2: the Big Tens all time assist leader before the game,

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Speaker 2: then went out and scored twenty three points seven assists.

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Speaker 2: But James, he did have foul trouble in the first half,

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Speaker 2: had to sit down with three fouls, and he did

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Speaker 2: turn the ball over six times. He would probably tell

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Speaker 2: you it was not his best game, but he still

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Speaker 2: helped get it done.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and that is the beauty of being a very

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Speaker 5: balanced team. He gives you his b game and they

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Speaker 5: still win that game pretty handedly. So excited to see

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Speaker 5: how they continue building throughout the rest of the season.

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Speaker 2: Trey Coughlin Rent also had fourteen points and fourteen rebounds.

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Speaker 5: One legged banker off the last last night I was watching.

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Speaker 3: He's got some quirky, quirky shots.

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Speaker 5: It double is the most old man move off scene.

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Speaker 3: Remember the game winner against IU last year. It was

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Speaker 3: like a shot put.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, fifteen, but it works, he can hope man, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: it works.

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Speaker 2: By the way, they are now fourteen and one overall,

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Speaker 2: four n O in the Big Ten. They will play

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Speaker 2: Saturday at two pm against Penn State College Football semi Finals.

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Speaker 2: We've been talking about that all morning long tonight. The

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Speaker 2: first game in Glendale, Arizona from the Fiesta Bowl Miami,

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Speaker 2: Oh Miss seven thirty pm on ESPN.

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Speaker 1: The Hurricanes are favored by three and a half points.

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Speaker 1: But of course.

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Speaker 2: Mississippi with as I've been saying all morning long, quarterback

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Speaker 2: Trinidad Chambliss.

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Speaker 1: You get one of those playmaking quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Man, it can change everything in the matter of two

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Speaker 2: series because he just does crazy things sometimes, James be

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Speaker 2: fun of well for sure. All Right, Indiana versus Oregon

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Speaker 2: tomorrow night in the second semi final game at the

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Speaker 2: Peach Bowl in Atlanta. Hoosiers also favored by three and

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Speaker 2: a half points, and that one starts at seven thirty pm.

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Speaker 2: And we'll talk to Sean McDonough, who'll love the play

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Speaker 2: by play on ESPN tomorrow. Kevin Soil one of my

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Speaker 2: favorite people in this business, by the way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we had him on a lot last year. I

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Speaker 3: think before I want to say it was, I feel

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Speaker 3: like he did every Notre Dame game during the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: He was on with us a ton so yes, we'll

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Speaker 3: chat with him coming up tomorrow eight o'clock. The television

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Speaker 3: voice of the Peach Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Pacers and Hornets play tonight as well. That'll be in Charlotte.

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Speaker 2: The Pacers trying to snap that thirteen game losing streak.

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Speaker 2: You'll hear that game live beginning at six thirty with

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Speaker 2: the pregame in Pat Boyland Company, and then at seven

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Speaker 2: pm Mark Boyle takes over with the play by play

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Speaker 2: and in the NBA Big Trade Atlanta. Since Trey Young

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Speaker 2: to Washington, jbfore C J McCollum and Corey Kissburt.

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Speaker 1: Maybe a change of scenery helps everybody there.

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Speaker 5: Maybe we'll see I think the Wizards are doing some

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Speaker 5: intioning things out there in the Nation's capital.

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Speaker 1: They've been better this year. Anything else you want to

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Speaker 1: throw in, Kevin before we get to the.

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Speaker 3: Break, Yeah, they shout out to Braylyn Mullens again. We

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Speaker 3: mentioned the first hour, twenty four points last night for

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Speaker 3: the mister basketball for Yukon. That was a wild game

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Speaker 3: them coming back to win at Providence. So some early

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Speaker 3: season injuries for him, but he has been pretty pretty

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Speaker 3: good and that probably his game of the year so far.

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Speaker 3: Really is a fun night at college hoops outside. You know,

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Speaker 3: Indian and Purdue didn't have a super entertaining night. I

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Speaker 3: know a lot of fans in this market always love

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Speaker 3: to see Kentucky lose a home game. They lost to

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Speaker 3: Missouri last night inside of reup. So ooh, boy Mark

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Speaker 3: Pope and the old how much is that roster worth

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Speaker 3: in Lexington? What's the return on that investment?

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Speaker 2: Not yet unless they get it together during conference play

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Speaker 2: over the next eight weeks.

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Speaker 1: Not yet, all right, Coming up next, we will talk

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Speaker 1: to the Butler head coach.

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Speaker 2: That's that MODI joins us every Thursday morning, and that'll

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Speaker 2: be on your speakers as we continue next on ninety

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Speaker 2: three five and one O seven five of the Fan.

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Speaker 1: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: Later on tonight, the Indiana Pacers will play at seven

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Speaker 2: pm on the road against the Charlotte Hornets, share time

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Speaker 2: six thirty here on the Fan, Kevin, I did see

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Speaker 2: where the PACER's gonna bring back Tony Bradley on a

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Speaker 2: ten day contract after releasing him last week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the mechanics, I guess we'd ask Scott Agnes and

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Speaker 3: he joints is coming up at nine. But you know,

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Speaker 3: I think the Micah Potter experience has gone really well

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Speaker 3: for those that haven't watched the Pacers much here recently,

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Speaker 3: him joining and and I think he's been a really,

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Speaker 3: honestly an important piece right now in Isaiah Jackson, that

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Speaker 3: concussion continues to linger so I think some of the

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Speaker 3: semantics around or the logistics by the better word to

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Speaker 3: use around why the Pacers are doing that?

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Speaker 2: And James, of the six wins the Pacers have been

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Speaker 2: able to put together this year, one of them came

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Speaker 2: earlier this year against the Charlotte Hornets.

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Speaker 1: Got that going on for you this morning tonight.

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Speaker 5: We'll find something positives I guess to pull out of that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I like what Rick has said about this team though,

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Speaker 2: despite the losing that's gone on and they have the

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Speaker 2: worst record in the NBA right now, he does feel

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Speaker 2: like his team has for the most part, been giving

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Speaker 2: it up every single night. They just keep having different

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Speaker 2: lineups and injuries and all kinds of crazy things going

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Speaker 2: on all the time.

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Speaker 5: Yes and no, he's been critical of their effort though

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Speaker 5: at times, and the way they're connected. So I don't

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Speaker 5: want to act like he's all rosy about how hard

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Speaker 5: they fight. I think that's been a point of emphasis

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Speaker 5: for him. As of Lake Kevin, we actually talked about

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Speaker 5: that with him this past week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I you know, if you would have given

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Speaker 3: me the list of injuries at the start of the year,

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Speaker 3: I still probably would have expected them to be higher.

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Speaker 3: Than six wins, Like, I think that's kind of a

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Speaker 3: fair statement. I mean, they've caught a lot of breaks. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: their injury situations speaks themselves, but they've caught a lot

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Speaker 3: of breaks on the other side of it, Guys, missing

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Speaker 3: Donovan Mitchell the other night, Tyler Herobam outa bio a

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Speaker 3: few games ago, you know, franzovargen Ier, et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, all right, let's check in on college basketball again,

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Speaker 2: as we do every Thursday morning.

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Speaker 1: At eight thirty am.

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Speaker 2: We speak to the head coach of the Butler Bulldogs,

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Speaker 2: one of our favorite stadt Mada joining us now on

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Speaker 2: the pay Less Liquers Hotline.

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Speaker 1: Good morning that I hope you're doing well this morning.

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Speaker 1: How things going so far?

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Speaker 8: So good? You know, one of those days where we've

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Speaker 8: got to get better day and so life is. Life's good.

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Speaker 8: We're a little bit of a.

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Speaker 7: Skid right now.

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Speaker 8: We've played some really really good teams, but folksing on

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Speaker 8: us and getting better.

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Speaker 3: Coach, you see any similarities from the second half of

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Speaker 3: Villanova in the second half from Saint John's obviously first

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Speaker 3: half is pretty good. There anything that you saw in

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Speaker 3: both those second halves with the games got away from you.

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Speaker 8: You know, in the Villanova game, I think it was

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Speaker 8: more of just the inability to put the ball in

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Speaker 8: the basket. I thought we had some unbelievable looks and

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Speaker 8: you know, give Villanova credit, they got hot, which very

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Speaker 8: talented team, and we'd seen Naven capable of doing that,

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Speaker 8: and uh, probably tight o our offense to our defense there.

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Speaker 8: You know, the Saint John's game, it was just a

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Speaker 8: matter of really taking care of the basketball. Mean, we

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Speaker 8: shot fifty percent for the game, but we had twenty

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Speaker 8: turnovers and so many of those were just really kind

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Speaker 8: of unforced. And then you know, you play a team

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Speaker 8: like Saint John's, they're created turning teams over, so you

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Speaker 8: know you're gonna turn it over. But it was probably

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Speaker 8: just the ones that were unforced more so that that

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Speaker 8: really really hurt us. And we're down five with eight

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Speaker 8: minutes to go, and had a segment there with uh,

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Speaker 8: you know, against the press we turned it over two

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Speaker 8: times in a row. So you know, those are things

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Speaker 8: we gotta we got to continue to to work on

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Speaker 8: and get better.

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Speaker 5: Sad when you look at your point guard spot this year,

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Speaker 5: I know stink Robertson got to start against Saint John's

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Speaker 5: and boy, that is quite the start for a freshman

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Speaker 5: against that sort of pressure. But how would you evaluate

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Speaker 5: him and your other ball handlers in areas that they

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Speaker 5: can get better.

656
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Speaker 8: Well, I think that's you know, an area where we

657
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 8: got to continue to grow. I mean, hey, we we

658
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 8: don't have Jalleen Jackson and that was in the plan

659
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 8: of of you know, having a guy that played one

660
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 8: hundred and thirty college basketball games and you know him

661
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 8: kind of running the team. And so now I think

662
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 8: for for xavior and supposed to even how many you know,

663
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Speaker 8: those guys who've got to continue to hone in on

664
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Speaker 8: on you know, running a team, taking care of the

665
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Speaker 8: basketball and and uh, you know, all of them play

666
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Speaker 8: hard and and and you see the growth in them,

667
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Speaker 8: which is which is exciting. But uh, you know, like

668
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 8: you said, you know that he looked at the teams

669
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Speaker 8: we've played thus far, the five Big East games, and

670
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 8: you know, arguably the five best teams in the Big East.

671
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Speaker 8: And uh so I think as they continue to develop,

672
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 8: get experience is going to do nothing but.

673
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Speaker 3: Help them coach.

674
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 2: We all watch guys like Finley, biz Jack and Michael Jai,

675
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: and they just keep coming up big for you again

676
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 2: and again.

677
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Speaker 1: You talked about growth and development a minute ago.

678
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Speaker 2: Outside of those two guys, who are the guys that

679
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: have really started to step up for you? And You're like, hey,

680
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 2: I trust this guy a lot more than I did

681
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 2: at the beginning of the season.

682
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Speaker 8: Well, you know, it's funny at this stage you trust

683
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 8: them all because it's it is what it is. And

684
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Speaker 8: I think, you know, I like the way Drayton and Johann.

685
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Speaker 8: I mean, you're you're getting consistency out of those guys

686
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 8: just in terms of their their level of play. I

687
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 8: think Jamie, you know, is continuing to grow. All these

688
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 8: guys are. Our biggest issue is is we got to

689
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 8: have everybody playing really well every time we take the court,

690
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 8: you know what I mean. And and that's our our

691
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 8: margin career is slim. So I think that's the challenge

692
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 8: of As I told the guys after the game there night,

693
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 8: you're gonna be a better basketball player on Wednesday when

694
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 8: we played Xavier, and we're gonna be a better basketball teams.

695
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 8: That's the only option we have.

696
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 3: And that's that Mada and Butler a little bit of

697
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 3: time off here as you said at Xavier they got

698
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 3: coming up next week. I think you've kind of hinted

699
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 3: at it fad, you know, maybe the last couple answers.

700
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 3: But you know, given the Jalen Jackson injury, it just

701
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 3: seems like right now there's so much pressure on Finley

702
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 3: Bizjack and Michael Jay to be whatever for you from

703
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 3: a scoring standpoint. Every night you know, you're right there

704
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 3: in the game. Michael picks up his fourth foul the

705
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 3: other night and it starts to get away from you.

706
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 3: Do you feel like there is a ton of pressure

707
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 3: on those two to deliver for Unite in a night

708
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 3: out and they probably are a top of the opposing

709
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 3: scouting report, well.

710
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 8: Without a doubt, there's no question, you know. And Michael

711
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 8: was in foul trouble at the Creating Game when we

712
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 8: got back in that thing and had a chance to

713
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 8: win it. So yeah, I mean, but that's kind of

714
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 8: what they sign up for, I think, And and you know,

715
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 8: we got to continue to get creative and and find

716
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Speaker 8: ways to help them be the best version of themselves.

717
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: Talk about not playing again until Wednesday.

718
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 2: At this point in the season, how beneficial is it

719
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 2: to have like a whole week to kind of work

720
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 2: on your team, your game.

721
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Speaker 8: Well, you know there's there's there's good and bad to

722
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 8: everything right, and uh, you know, we come out off

723
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 8: of this week and I think we got four games

724
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 8: in eight days, and so we need to get into

725
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 8: practice today and get back to, you know, really honing in,

726
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 8: because what happens is, you know, you get going from

727
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 8: game to game to game, and it's very easy to

728
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 8: lose sight of of your your principles, your your fundamentals

729
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,959
Speaker 8: because every team, you know, the difference between Saint John's,

730
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 8: the difference between uh uh Saint Villanova, the difference between Creighton,

731
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 8: and so your game preps a lot of times are

732
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 8: are just so different because of the what the opponent presents.

733
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Speaker 8: And I think that's where, you know, we got a

734
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Speaker 8: week here to get back to focusing in on our

735
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Speaker 8: fundamentals and what we have to do to get better.

736
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Speaker 5: One more from me coached that and looking at one

737
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Speaker 5: of your more unique situations with Jack McCaffrey, I'm reading about,

738
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Speaker 5: or I read about, how he had gone through kind

739
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 5: of a unique situation getting his Wisdom team moved and

740
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 5: you know, having an infection throughout that whole process and

741
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 5: working his way back. So where is he in the

742
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 5: recovery process and how have you kind of helped him

743
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Speaker 5: navigate what has turned out to obviously not be the

744
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 5: freshman year he probably envisioned coming into this year.

745
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know when when you talk about bad luck,

746
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 8: that was that was one of the weirdest. Yeah, I

747
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 8: didn't get my wisdom detail was out till I was

748
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 8: like forty and my wife trick man, I went in

749
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 8: to get one out and they took call for it.

750
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 8: So but but long story short, you know, it was

751
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 8: it was an unfortunate situation and it really really set

752
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 8: him back. He lost like twenty five pounds and in

753
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 8: the two weeks that he was sick and he couldn't eat,

754
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 8: couldn't open his mouth, and so we're we're he's slowly

755
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 8: getting back into it, but it's just you know, where

756
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 8: we are in the stage of the season. It's tough

757
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 8: for him. But stuff get and I don't know exactly

758
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 8: when he can, you know, be back to full speed.

759
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 8: He's not doing a ton right now, just you know,

760
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 8: just physically not in shape. And hopefully we'll get him

761
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 8: back sooner than later.

762
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Speaker 2: Coach, I know it's a twenty four to seven job

763
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 2: that you have, especially this time of year. But as

764
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 2: a sports fan, is there any opportunity for you to

765
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 2: even check out like these college football playoffs semi finals.

766
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Speaker 8: It's funny. I'm like one of the biggest college football

767
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 8: fans there is. And and you know what Indiana is

768
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 8: doing right now. Obviously I spent a year down there

769
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 8: and and you know, so happy for Scott Dolson and

770
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 8: Indiana and rooting for those guys like crazy.

771
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 2: Well, have fun coach this week, Good luck getting your

772
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: team together again, and we'll keep an eye on it

773
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: and we'll talk to you again next Thursday.

774
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 8: Appreciate you guys, Thank you.

775
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: Here you go. Butler Bulldogs.

776
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 2: He talked about those four games coming up in eight

777
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 2: days after this, this kind of mini break here at

778
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 2: Xavier at Seaton Hall, home against A. Paul and then

779
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 2: home against Marquette, and that all comes between next Wednesday

780
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 2: and the following Friday, so they will be very busy

781
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 2: again very soon. And I was watching that game the

782
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 2: other night, and it was that second half.

783
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: It was just turnover.

784
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 2: Saint John's a lot had a lot to do with that,

785
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 2: but they just couldn't get the ball up the floor.

786
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 3: That is again without Jalen Jackson, who you know, was

787
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 3: one of the better players in the Horizon League last year,

788
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 3: transferred in from Fort Wayne. It's so much pressure on

789
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 3: Steve Robinson, especially to you know, be the the point guard.

790
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 3: Really a lot of it. I think you're kind of

791
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 3: playing guys out of position here, So Michael J. Finley, Bizjack,

792
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 3: the pressure is immense. Again, They're still hovering right there

793
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 3: on that bubble. So it's not like this is deaf

794
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 3: Con time, but the urgency is going to be there.

795
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 3: The Big East as opportunities, doesn't have as many opportunities

796
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 3: as other conferences to pad that resume. But I think

797
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 3: Butler's margin for air is a really really shrunk here

798
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 3: with that Jalen Jackson injury.

799
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 2: All right, coming up at a moment, we'll talk more

800
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 2: about Chris Baller getting rid of to meet with the

801
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 2: media at eleven o'clock this morning. We're just two hours

802
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 2: and twenty minutes away from that. We've also got PACER's

803
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 2: discussion with Scott Agnes.

804
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 1: Coming up at the top of the hours. They try

805
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: to get it going again, and we'll take some of.

806
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 2: Your thoughts, phone calls and texts in the next ten

807
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 2: to fifteen minutes or so right here at ninety three

808
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 2: five and one oh seven five to the Fan. First

809
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 2: semi final for the College Football Playoff comes your way.

810
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 1: Tonight, Old Miss Miami.

811
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 2: And tomorrow night it'll be Oregon against the Indiana Hoosiers.

812
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 2: You'll be able to hear that Hoosier game beginning tomorrow

813
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 2: night right here on ninety three five and one on

814
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 2: seven to five the Fan at six thirty pm. The

815
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 2: game itself kicks off at seven thirty listen to Don Fisher,

816
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 2: or you can watch it on ESPN with Sean McDonough

817
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 2: at seven thirty.

818
00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 1: We'll have Sean McDonough on tomorrow.

819
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 2: Right now, though, we're talking some Indiana Pacers basketball along

820
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 2: with Kevin Bowen and James Boyd. I'm jeff Rickard, Caleb

821
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 2: Zuber behind the glass and on the pay Less Lookers

822
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 2: hotline right now, the one the only. Scott Agnes, Good morning, Scott,

823
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 2: welcome in to a whole brand new year for NBA

824
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 2: for you.

825
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's right, Good morning, guys. Appreciate it.

826
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: Always good to talk to Tony Bradley coming back on

827
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 2: a ten day contractor looking for any answers up front

828
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 2: right now aren't they.

829
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's one of those situations. While the center position

830
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 9: was kind of incomplete for this group entering the season,

831
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,959
Speaker 9: right we all knew that Rick Carlisle had talked about

832
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 9: how it was center by committee. Now they've really felt it,

833
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 9: especially in the last month as multiple players have battled injury.

834
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 9: And what does it say about the center position, Jeff,

835
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 9: where you're bringing back a player who's not even one

836
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 9: hundred percent fractured tip of his shooting thumb on his

837
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 9: right side. But they just need some kind of depth

838
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 9: and help there. So that's the reason why they're But

839
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 9: on the positive side, as you've seen Micah Potter really

840
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 9: establish himself as a solid role player and earned a

841
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 9: fully guaranteed contract for the rest of the season.

842
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 3: Scott, I'm minny yanked the wheel here for a second.

843
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 3: How was the Rose.

844
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 9: Bull So it was phenomenal, Nothing but great things to

845
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 9: say about the whole experience. How nice everyone was. I mean,

846
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 9: didn't really even run into any Alabama fans, Kevin. It

847
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 9: was remarkable. It was truly like seventy five eighty percent

848
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 9: IU fans, no doubt about that. The only I guess

849
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 9: negative if you will, other than getting in and out,

850
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 9: which is known for where it is, and that experience

851
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 9: is that all that rain in the morning, you'll appreciate this,

852
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 9: maybe more than anyone. Made it feel like an Indy

853
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 9: five hundred race day in the morning. We were trudging

854
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 9: through mud and there were lines and all those different things,

855
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 9: but we were trained for all that.

856
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 3: I think, are you do you expect kind of the

857
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 3: same fan discrepancy if you will tomorrow night, because I

858
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 3: think it'll be massive for Indiana down there.

859
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 9: I do too. I'm not sure if it'll be that

860
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 9: at that level, just because I don't think, you know,

861
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 9: Oregon fans are as content or maybe you know, used

862
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 9: to this necessarily, maybe as much as an Alabama program

863
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 9: that has been the team for the last twenty years

864
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 9: and they can't assume anything, whereas I'm sure there were

865
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 9: some Alabama fans with the old stereotype of Indiana who

866
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 9: are assuming things and the other thing. If you listen

867
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 9: to IU what they have to say, I think they

868
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 9: say Atlanta is the third largest city for IU alums,

869
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 9: and so yes, I expect it to be massive. The

870
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 9: big red warm up that the alumni Association has sold

871
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Speaker 9: out several days ago. I'm really looking forward to seeing

872
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Speaker 9: what it looks like for you.

873
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Speaker 3: Okay, back to Pacers talk. Scott agnesfield House files with

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Speaker 3: us here. How much should this year for Benedict Matherin

875
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Speaker 3: matter when it comes to trade conversations? Obviously, entering the

876
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Speaker 3: year you were asking him to do things differently with

877
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Speaker 3: of course Tyres Halliburn's injury. Now Matherin, who really wasn't

878
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Speaker 3: hurt that much early in his career, has suffered two

879
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Speaker 3: injuries that have sidelined him. It sounds like he's tried

880
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Speaker 3: to play through that. You know, Rick Carl I think

881
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Speaker 3: acknowledge that when he joined us back on Tuesday. So

882
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Speaker 3: how much do you think it should? And I guess

883
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Speaker 3: will impact trade talks here as the deadline is less

884
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Speaker 3: than a month away.

885
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Speaker 9: Well, I think usually when you're trying to add a

886
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Speaker 9: guy of this caliber, you're looking for him to be

887
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Speaker 9: maybe that final piece or the guy that helps seal

888
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Speaker 9: a pat be the patch to seal something later in

889
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Speaker 9: the season when you have, you know, those championship aspirations.

890
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 9: The other way I could see it is for a

891
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Speaker 9: younger team that has cap space that they're willing to

892
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Speaker 9: use this year. Either way, I think it will have

893
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Speaker 9: some impact, mostly in consideration where will the team be

894
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Speaker 9: willing to give an extension for next year and what

895
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Speaker 9: will that look like. The reality is we have not

896
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Speaker 9: really even seen a healthy Benedict Mather because that turf

897
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Speaker 9: toe happened in Game two of the season, and any

898
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Speaker 9: player will tell you that is a miserable injury. It's

899
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Speaker 9: something you just have to not do anything and take

900
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Speaker 9: it easy for a couple of months. But that adds

901
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Speaker 9: the complexity kb to this season. Because he's in a

902
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Speaker 9: contract year. He wants to raise his ceiling even more,

903
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Speaker 9: whether it's with the Pacers or elsewhere, and so he's

904
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Speaker 9: played through that. This right thumb injury happened more basically

905
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Speaker 9: about a month ago, is what I was told, and

906
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Speaker 9: he continued to try to play through it. That mostly

907
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Speaker 9: explains a lot of the shooting woes that we've seen

908
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Speaker 9: from him. But I think ultimately both sides said, hey, look,

909
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Speaker 9: this is not productive. We want you to be healthy.

910
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Speaker 9: Let's sit you on the bench and allow you to

911
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Speaker 9: get rest. But from the trade conversation piece of it,

912
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Speaker 9: if he is included because he's in a contract year,

913
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Speaker 9: I think it's certainly got to have some impact. But

914
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Speaker 9: nothing's significant.

915
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Speaker 5: Again, we're talking to Scott Agnes here on the Payoff

916
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Speaker 5: Stickers hot Line. You can check him out at Fieldolphfoles

917
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Speaker 5: dot com. Scott. When I look at the makeup of

918
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Speaker 5: the Pacers and they're losing streak right now, I always

919
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Speaker 5: look at the draft board as well. I don't know

920
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Speaker 5: if this has been as early as I've been on

921
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Speaker 5: techathon dot com. Yeah, but they'll never throw in the towel,

922
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Speaker 5: and I don't expect that to happen for Rick Carlisle.

923
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Speaker 5: But how realistic do you think they are in knowing

924
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Speaker 5: that they have to find, perhaps in it's a coming draft,

925
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Speaker 5: a center piece to put around Halliburton.

926
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Speaker 9: Yeah, that's significant. I think I would go a step further.

927
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Speaker 9: I want I want to see that more of that

928
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Speaker 9: six foot eight wing. I want to see that player

929
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Speaker 9: that that is the modern style of what we've seen

930
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Speaker 9: with basketball over the last decade. I think you can

931
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Speaker 9: get your center in different ways, whether that's in free agency,

932
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Speaker 9: there's always a handful to choose from, certainly James on

933
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Speaker 9: the other side, there's also some teams that probably are

934
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Speaker 9: in the Pacers spot where a guy's not getting playing time,

935
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Speaker 9: and I mean pacers from about three years ago when

936
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Speaker 9: they had six centers on their roster. There's always that

937
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Speaker 9: type of situation. A googa bitaz Daniel tics as well.

938
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Speaker 9: Now you could argue how high of ceiling does that

939
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Speaker 9: player need to be when you have those championship aspirations

940
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Speaker 9: back for next season. So I just prioritize. I think

941
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 9: wings are the hard or is player to get at all.

942
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Speaker 9: So if that player is there, I'm certainly prioritizing that

943
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Speaker 9: over a center, say in the draft. But yeah, that's

944
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 9: been one of the big issues for this team this season.

945
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Speaker 9: I think everybody underappreciated the stability that Miles Turner brought

946
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Speaker 9: for the past ten years. Was he perfect, Absolutely not,

947
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 9: but he was vocal, He protected the rim, and that's

948
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Speaker 9: something that's really been absent all season long.

949
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Speaker 5: Yeah, to clarify when I said centerpiece, I meant exactly

950
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Speaker 5: what you meant.

951
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Speaker 3: Go go okay.

952
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 5: One of the players in the draft and definitely an

953
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Speaker 5: issue up front with center. But I mean, to be frank,

954
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 5: for myself, I'm looking at Darren Peterson, AJ Debanza, Cameron Boozer,

955
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Speaker 5: and anybody else who's in that top five range for

956
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Speaker 5: this team, and you says, in't the interesting there at

957
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Speaker 5: the end? There, Scott, how much do you believe this

958
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Speaker 5: team can return to contending next year? Because I'm not

959
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 5: gonna lie watching this unfold, and I get it, a

960
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 5: lot of injuries have happened. I wonder how much more

961
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 5: tweaking needs to be done besides adding potentially a top

962
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Speaker 5: five pick and a healthy Halibird.

963
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 9: Yeah, for me, it starts with having that modern style.

964
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 9: I get you now entirely. We're on the same page

965
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 9: with all that. One of the things that you're seeing

966
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 9: TJ McConnell become more limited, right, is he playing in

967
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 9: back to backs. That's something of concern. But I think

968
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Speaker 9: you can add more of a ball handling type player,

969
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 9: a combo guard. They have that specifically, probably in a

970
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 9: guy like Cam Jones. And then you start to think

971
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 9: about Pascal Siakam because at this point in this season

972
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Speaker 9: you want to be conscious of his minutes, knowing that

973
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Speaker 9: he's a little bit older, but he's still in his

974
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 9: peak prime and absolutely still contributing. So I do think

975
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Speaker 9: given full health or just about that and key players back,

976
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Speaker 9: that the Pacers will absolutely be back. In the conversation

977
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Speaker 9: for a chan, I mean just look at the top

978
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 9: of the standings. You have the Pistons team that has

979
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 9: not done anything leading in the Eastern Conference. The Celtics

980
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 9: without Tatum are able to rely on their depth a

981
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 9: lot more. Jalen Brown shines there at the top of

982
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 9: the East. Even Philly, who I'm never been a great

983
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 9: believer in, is there in the top. So that's a

984
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 9: big reason why I think this season stings even more

985
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 9: James right because Pacers would absolutely, I think be a

986
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 9: top four team right now if they mostly had all

987
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 9: that health, and in turn they don't. What I do

988
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 9: wonder about is the leadership aspect and everything. Are they

989
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 9: missing James Johnson right now during a thirteen game win.

990
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 9: Strength only the locker room I think could tell you that.

991
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 2: Talking to Scott Agnes field House finals here on the

992
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Speaker 2: Payless Slickers hotline, and we're talking about better bathering a

993
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 2: few moments ago. But we had a trade yesterday in

994
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 2: the NBA. Trey Young goes to Washington and Washington sends

995
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 2: back CJ McCollum and Corey Kisberg. Overall, are there a

996
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 2: lot of moves that the Pacers really even can make

997
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 2: at this point in time?

998
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 9: I don't think so, because what do teams want Other

999
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 9: teams they want things of value of players that have

1000
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 9: been contributing, and they know exactly what they can get

1001
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 9: for these guys. And the reality is the Pacers have

1002
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 9: been shuffling their lineup all season long. Twenty four different

1003
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 9: players have suited up all those different things. And so

1004
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 9: that's why I think the natural conversation piece for all

1005
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 9: of us is mentioning Mathering given his eye upside, given

1006
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Speaker 9: how young he is, and the fact that he's going

1007
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Speaker 9: into a second contract, and sometimes teams don't necessarily want

1008
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 9: to pay that. And the other big thing we need

1009
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 9: to point out here is the Pacers have played most

1010
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 9: of their players in the last couple of years. One

1011
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 9: of the big talking points with Miles Turner is how much,

1012
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 9: if at all, are you willing to go into the

1013
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 9: salary tax. So that conversation has to be had all

1014
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 9: over again right now when you deal with Matherren. Now

1015
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 9: you mentioned the trade last night. I think that's kind

1016
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 9: of relevant to the point of the Wizards. We're looking

1017
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 9: at having significant salary cap space, like eighty million, which

1018
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 9: means they would probably have easily a thirty million to burn.

1019
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 9: Let's say or utilize on a Mathern. Pelicans are going

1020
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 9: to have this expiring contract with CJ. McCollums. So if

1021
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 9: you're looking at teams that would have money that could

1022
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 9: make it restricted an offer to matherin restricted free agency.

1023
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 9: These are two of the teams you're watching in addition

1024
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 9: to your watching the record, because they're right there with

1025
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 9: the Pacers at the bottom of the league standings.

1026
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 3: Scott, give me a random IU football player you've thought

1027
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:12,919
Speaker 3: about during this run.

1028
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 5: I think about Billie, But oh, I see what you're saying.

1029
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you're a fan, man, You go back. You

1030
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 3: are a legit fan. That's why I'm dialing this question

1031
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 3: up for you. I always love how Peyton Ramsey would

1032
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,720
Speaker 3: always QB sneak it like off the right tackle. Seemed

1033
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 3: to work literally every time. Wap Fillier popped into my

1034
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 3: head the other day, Tandeon Dolls. He was kind of

1035
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 3: around you. You and ice Age. Jamie Kurlew is such

1036
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,439
Speaker 3: a great pass rusher back in the day for him.

1037
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 3: Oh man, So yeah, any random IU football player that's

1038
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 3: popped into your mind here.

1039
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 9: I could have Ben Chapel. He was there. He was

1040
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,720
Speaker 9: the quarterback when I was a cocal local guy. Yep,

1041
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 9: And he was there at the heat of it under

1042
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 9: Billy Lynch when I was transcribing Billy Lynch's quotes while

1043
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 9: volunteering in the sports information office and to that relevancy.

1044
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 9: He was at the game in the in Pasadena, so

1045
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 9: I saw him there down on the field. He's probably

1046
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 9: the first name other than Antoine Randelel, who kind of

1047
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 9: was the first guy I truly remember with my fandom

1048
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 9: and getting his jersey and all those different things. But yeah,

1049
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 9: this is, as everybody knows, this is beyond you fans

1050
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 9: wildest dreams. You hope for six seven wins, you hope

1051
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 9: for a bowl game, and that was it, and now

1052
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 9: you know you're on top of the world. And why

1053
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 9: would they go anywhere else right now? There's no reason.

1054
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 3: Was the quarterback Richard Legou who wore number twenty one?

1055
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 3: Was that his name a few years back?

1056
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 9: I remember that name.

1057
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I swore I wore twenty one, which we had

1058
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 3: that this year. The BYU quarterback was wearing some wild

1059
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 3: jersey number as well. I'm like, man, I got it.

1060
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:49,919
Speaker 9: I don't know, maybe I just looked it up real fast.

1061
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Speaker 9: He was twenty one. I did not remember that fact.

1062
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Speaker 3: I always thought, you know, Chapel was great, but man,

1063
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 3: I thought Kellen Lewis was so damn damn dynamic. I mean, boy,

1064
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 3: and I know there was probably you know, stuff off

1065
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 3: the field, but boy, I thought, Kellen Louis, you want

1066
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 3: to talk about a special talent are?

1067
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 9: You always had those athletes at quarterbacks and good players.

1068
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 9: They always had it a receiver and then I always

1069
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 9: felt like it was either safety or like linebacker. And

1070
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Speaker 9: the point of what they've done though recently obviously, is

1071
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 9: bulk up the line. And as as Fernando Mendoz has

1072
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 9: mentioned many times, that's what's been a big game changer

1073
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 9: under his time here.

1074
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Speaker 2: Scott thinks, have fun on this ride with Indiana. Great

1075
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 2: job covering the Pacers all the time. We'll talk to

1076
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 2: you again soon.

1077
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,919
Speaker 9: Appreciate it heading down there today. Thanks guys.

1078
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: Which way you going? By the way you're flying?

1079
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 9: No making the drive?

1080
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 2: Which which way are you going? You're going through? We

1081
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 2: were been talking about this Knoxville or Nashville.

1082
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 9: Usually Nashville. I have not finalized the plans, but I

1083
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 9: assume that's the route.

1084
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: All right, buddy, have fun? All right? Thanks guys, go

1085
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: Scott Agana.

1086
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 5: I was gonna say.

1087
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: Changes like a boy Nashville at all costs.

1088
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, those bets rep parties and they can start on

1089
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 3: a Monday. Lord knows they're starting on a Thursday.

1090
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1091
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 5: Last time I was in Nashville, that's when Joey Ericson

1092
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 5: had his of beer.

1093
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,760
Speaker 3: So was that how you Illinoy?

1094
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 5: That was how Illinois? And I kid you not. And

1095
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 5: I have to get the name of this cold Stafford.

1096
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 5: It's one of the equipment guys seem all the time

1097
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 5: in the locker room and stuff like that. We're out

1098
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 5: at this bar watching.

1099
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 3: The I remember when he was talking to you at

1100
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 3: a Colts practice. He was talking to you know what

1101
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 3: to you?

1102
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:18,959
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he came over and was like.

1103
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: Who's hers?

1104
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 5: And I was like, oh man, I didn't even know

1105
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 5: you were here. So I had to eat a lot

1106
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 5: of crow that night.

1107
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:27,959
Speaker 3: Yeah. He was chirping at you in the end zone

1108
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 3: that that one day in the indoor facility.

1109
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 5: I chirped for a month's iron.

1110
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: So I love about you. As petty as you are,

1111
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 1: you accept the pettiness back.

1112
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 5: Hey, you got to stand on that.

1113
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,760
Speaker 3: So this Washington QB, thank you. Who's your ninety seving

1114
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 3: he is flirting with LSU. Is that the thought here?

1115
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: Yes?

1116
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 5: Oh I did not know that. The plot dickens Yeah,

1117
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 5: and lane Kiffin.

1118
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 3: Oh, well man, the Lane Kiffin hate train.

1119
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: Jimbo Fisher talking about Lane Kiffin.

1120
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what see that, he snapped on September nineteenth.

1121
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 3: Next year, LSU at old miss Oh, my.

1122
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 5: Word, might need like homeland security for that game.

1123
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to puy. Yeah, You're gonna have to

1124
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 3: put that man in secret service. Is gonna have to

1125
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 3: get him in and out of that town.

1126
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 2: Think about this though, in the SEC Can you imagine

1127
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 2: the negative recruiting it's gonna go on against Lane Kiffin

1128
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 2: and l s U when they talk to every kid

1129
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 2: and go you think he cares about you, You think

1130
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 2: he cares about his kids. He he had his kids

1131
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 2: in the in the college football playoff, leaves them at

1132
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 2: the doorstep of that and then doesn't want to give

1133
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 2: them their best chance to win.

1134
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: Says, no, all my assistants have to come with me.

1135
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: They're no longer a part of that.

1136
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 5: And then LSU puts another digit on the check. They'll

1137
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 5: give you to come play for them, and you'll go

1138
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 5: play for them anyway.

1139
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: But Mississippi can do that too. Probably.

1140
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 5: No, they't not hanging out with LSU from Nils.

1141
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 1: Maybe not, but you're not.

1142
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 2: I'm just saying the negative recruiting for for a lot

1143
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 2: of kids is gonna.

1144
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: It's gonna pay it. I don't think that's gonna as

1145
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: well as people think for him.

1146
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 3: If we were in any other market outside of whatever

1147
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 3: Eugene Miami right now, if we are in any other market,

1148
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 3: I would be all in on old miss win in

1149
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 3: this win in this title. Yeah, I mean all freaking in.

1150
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 3: Do you think No? Hell no, Lane Kiffin is not

1151
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 3: all in. He gives money for them winning. No, No,

1152
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 3: he's got ego more than money. He would rather them.

1153
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 3: He wants a lost one thousand percent. The portal's still open.

1154
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 3: He wants all those assistants back in Baton Rouge.

1155
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 5: So which one does he want? He wants them to

1156
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 5: lose sooner or later. Sooner gives a national championship, So

1157
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,399
Speaker 5: I get all my bonuses up until the last one.

1158
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: And I think he's doing so.

1159
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 3: You know what with Michael Irvin on the sideline tonight.

1160
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 5: That is true And shout out to Michael Irvin I

1161
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 5: don't know where he gets the energy from, but he

1162
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 5: is my favorite football player of all time for reasons

1163
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 5: that are not related to football. He is entertaining on

1164
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 5: the side of hilarious human being.

1165
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: He and ray Lewis hanging out together again on the sidelines.

1166
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 5: Tonight, possibly, but I wouldn't want to hang out with

1167
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 5: him that that sounds like a lot.

1168
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 3: We need Edge, We needs a mai fans partying with

1169
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,439
Speaker 3: Edge in Miami next week.

1170
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: Best smile going right.

1171
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,479
Speaker 5: I don't think I've ever seen Edge without shades. Shout

1172
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,439
Speaker 5: out to that man. He's always having a good time.

1173
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 2: This song shooting back up the streaming list on just

1174
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 2: about every streaming sir of us this past year. I

1175
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 2: point out again that Indiana's alumni base is the largest

1176
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 2: in the country, James, of any school anywhere, it's the

1177
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 2: largest alumni pace in the country.

1178
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: And this is true. Again, it is true.

1179
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 5: Look at every university says that, but I wouldn't doubt

1180
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 5: it when it comes to I.

1181
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: Uh, it's true.

1182
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 2: And we've been hearing this song and it's become kind

1183
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,439
Speaker 2: of attached to Fernando Mendoza again. And as he gets

1184
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 2: ready for the semi the semi final football game tomorrow

1185
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 2: night against Oregon. He was asked his thoughts on the

1186
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 2: Abbas song from the seventies.

1187
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 3: Fernando, do you have any thoughts on NFL team fan

1188
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 3: bases that are singing that song hoping that raft which.

1189
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 6: By that, Yeah, I mean it's a great song. But

1190
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 6: I've I've heard it, you know a little throughout my

1191
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,720
Speaker 6: high school career, and then you know, early my college

1192
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 6: career was kind of like a joke with all all

1193
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 6: my friends that now just accelerated to a whole other level.

1194
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 3: So, I mean, I bet it ab was like checking

1195
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:53,959
Speaker 3: their phone like, wow, this songs.

1196
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 6: You had a lot of plays all of a sudden,

1197
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 6: So I mean, it's it's great.

1198
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: I think it's, you know, a bunny sign.

1199
00:53:59,280 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 8: I'm honest.

1200
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 6: Now, I can talk a funny song that everybody could

1201
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 6: get right around, especially how you fanned him and.

1202
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 2: Said I always whether he's talking about that or dinosaurs

1203
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 2: or whatever it is.

1204
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: How do you not like this kid? Like, how can

1205
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: you possibly not like Fernando Mendoza and root for him

1206
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: as just a person and a player.

1207
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 5: Well, I'll tell you. If you're organ and you're on

1208
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 5: the other side, I hate him. I don't want to

1209
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 5: see him succeed. I will say this. In addition to

1210
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 5: the song he just referenced, someone asked him if he

1211
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 5: has a hype song for games, and he said he

1212
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 5: doesn't listen to music. He just talks to God. And

1213
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 5: I was like, boy, that would terrify me an a ponent, like, huh,

1214
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 5: Like you don't listen to music. I talk to God

1215
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 5: about what I'm gonna do to you guys. That's pretty crazy.

1216
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 2: I saw an orgon fan cat that suggested the best

1217
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 2: way to stop nanomans doze is in the middle of

1218
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 2: the game, ask him to give him his thoughts on

1219
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 2: the latest dinosaur discovery and might get a delay of

1220
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 2: game because he.

1221
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: Goes into hiss on those things.

1222
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 4: Man.

1223
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 2: But no, Kevin, it's just we talk about what a

1224
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 2: great story it is. But he's just he's a different cat,

1225
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 2: and I love that.

1226
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 1: I just love that he's authentically himself.

1227
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 3: No apology, one thousand percent. I think he's one of

1228
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 3: the more unique individuals that we've had in college football.

1229
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 3: And obviously when you couple his play, it just adds

1230
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 3: the story. I was at a wedding a few weeks back.

1231
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 3: It was an IU man married in Ohio State woman

1232
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 3: and we had the Abba Fernando song played at the wedding.

1233
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 3: So I think a groom got a little uh fortunate

1234
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 3: there on the old musical choices. But yeah, I'm gonna

1235
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 3: guess is Ava still performing?

1236
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good question.

1237
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 3: I don't know if they are gonna hell of a run.

1238
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 3: Maybe a little five hundred this year. You can get

1239
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 3: Abba and done meadow or tailgate fields there to perform.

1240
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: Oh man, this is one thing I will tell you

1241
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 1: about Fernando Mendoza.

1242
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 2: We all know about his Heisman Trophy winner against the

1243
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 2: AP top twenty five, and he's played this year.

1244
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:01,720
Speaker 1: He's averaging almost seventy.

1245
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 2: Three percent completion percentage against the top the best teams

1246
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 2: in the country.

1247
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 5: That's his thing, accuracy and the old yioughta when he's

1248
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 5: running and I'm just like, get down. So I'm very

1249
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 5: curious to see what his legs will do in that

1250
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 5: game and how that can flip the game tomorrow when

1251
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:20,240
Speaker 5: it comes to the Oregon matchup.

1252
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1253
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 2: And then again a crazy stat. I know he only

1254
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,320
Speaker 2: threw the ball sixteen times, but he had more touchdown

1255
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 2: passes than incompletions in the last game well, and.

1256
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 3: He's had several of those games this season, if I'm

1257
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 3: not mistaken. Obviously, doing against Alabama's a different story. And

1258
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 3: you know, I'll keep on coming back to this point,

1259
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 3: and I hope I'm not just kind of beating a

1260
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,240
Speaker 3: dead horse. But for those that have been totally plugged

1261
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 3: into us in hell, for those that are maybe on

1262
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 3: the road right now to the ATL I think a

1263
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 3: huge advantage for Indiana in preparation. This is one of

1264
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 3: the more chaotic weeks in college football, whether you're still

1265
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 3: playing or not. The portal is pure chaos, pure and

1266
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:57,800
Speaker 3: utter chaos.

1267
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 5: And what do you mean? It seems very calm for

1268
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 5: Washington and the player that they want, who acts to

1269
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 5: be out let out of his contract that he signed,

1270
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 5: and yeah, people trying to sue universities and vice versa.

1271
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 5: It's great.

1272
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:15,280
Speaker 3: It is utter chaos. And you have Indiana with staff retention.

1273
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 3: Their offensive coordinator is going nowhere, he just resigned. Their

1274
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 3: defensive coordinator is going nowhere, he just resigned. So their

1275
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 3: prep is all in on the second meeting with the

1276
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 3: Oregon Ducks. Whereas out in Oregon you have their offensive coordinator,

1277
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 3: Will Stein is the new head coach at Kentucky. So

1278
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 3: will Stein has literally been going back and forth. Can

1279
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 3: you imagine flights from Lexington to Eugene. I don't think

1280
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 3: that's probably the easiest trek, but that's the reality for him.

1281
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 3: And you want to talk about portal chaos. Kentucky's had

1282
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 3: some of the most notre dame quarterback Kenny Menshi, who

1283
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 3: almost was the starter A CJ. Carr beat him out.

1284
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,439
Speaker 3: He initially committed to Nebraska in the portal and next

1285
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 3: thing you know, he's now a Kentucky Wildcat. So for

1286
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 3: will Stein, the OC for Oregon, who will be the

1287
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 3: play caller tomorrow, he's juggling both. Their defensive coordinator TODs Lupo,

1288
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 3: he is juggling both as well. He is the new

1289
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 3: coach at cal Here. So I think that is another

1290
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 3: massive advantage for Indiana. Their coaching staff all in on

1291
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 3: the Peach Bowl and playing a week from Monday in Miami.

1292
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 3: Where is the Oregon staff? I mean in neverlee. Guys,

1293
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 3: Let's be honest, James Boyd, you weren't born yesterday. If

1294
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 3: you're will Stein and you sit there in your office

1295
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 3: and think, hmmm, I have this job potentially for another

1296
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 3: forty eight hours. I have the next job for the

1297
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 3: potentially the next five years. Should I watch thirty more

1298
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 3: minutes of Bryant Haynes's third down blitz packages or should

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Speaker 3: I watch Portal film on potentially adding.

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Speaker 1: To my new job?

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Speaker 3: Which one you're gonna choose?

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Speaker 1: Gotta go Portal because that's your job now.

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Speaker 3: Yep, So that is advantage Indiana in my you'd think.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to point out one last thing on

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Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza.

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Speaker 2: The last time I saw him in person twenty two

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Speaker 2: of twenty four for two hundred and ninety nine yards

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Speaker 2: against Wisconsin, was down there and watched that game, and

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Speaker 2: it's just.

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Speaker 3: Like you need to be in atlantanim one. I know, man,

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Speaker 3: let's go the good luck charm. But yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 3: is John Hartong gonna view Fernando Mendoza as hmm? I

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Speaker 3: think I want the Raiders job. Is Fernanda Mendoza that

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Speaker 3: type of prospect?

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Speaker 1: Do you want? Maybe?

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00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 2: Or do you If you're John Harbody, you say, hey,

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Speaker 2: I like what Jackson Dark brought the Giants right here.

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Speaker 9: I like that too.

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Speaker 5: I don't think he's that type of prospect, because I

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00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 5: will admit it's probably sort of a down year when

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Speaker 5: it comes to the Heisman Trophy and the top quarterbacks.

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Speaker 5: No disrespect to Branda Mendez, I think it could be

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Speaker 5: a fine NFL quarterback, but he doesn't appear to be

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Speaker 5: like the slam dunk that was for example, Joe Burrow

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Speaker 5: or even Lamar Jackson was a late first round pick,

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Speaker 5: but guys who had really I think put it on

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01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 5: other teams when it comes to the Heisman numbers and

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Speaker 5: the producing and stuff like that. But it certainly is

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Speaker 5: a factor that I think could help, you know, if

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Speaker 5: you're the incoming coach and you get to pick your

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Speaker 5: next franchise quarterback potentially, Yeah, that's a factor.

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Speaker 2: The other thing that I'm always amazed at when you

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Speaker 2: look at Fernanda Mendozi, you see the goofy, kid like

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Speaker 2: nature that he has, which I love and I've fallen

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Speaker 2: in love with that part of his personality and what

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Speaker 2: he brings, and and the fact that his teammates love

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Speaker 2: him and that he's just himself authentically, Like we forget.

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Speaker 2: He's a big dude with a strong arm. He's six

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Speaker 2: five two twenty five and he can sling the rock.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we had Dan Briugler on I think, well,

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01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe we'd have data on but like

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01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 3: Fernana Mindos was thought to be a draft prospect entering

1344
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 3: this season, like it's not the most foreign thought in

1345
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:52,479
Speaker 3: the world. Now number one overall pick and Heisman Trophy winner.

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01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 3: That's obviously in a different stratusphere. But I mean, you know,

1347
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 3: to go back to last year, honestly, it might have

1348
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 3: been a benefit for Indiana losing to Notre Dame in

1349
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 3: that they were able to inc up Fernando Mendoza on

1350
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Speaker 3: Christmas Eve from a portal standpoint, and Georgia was thought

1351
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 3: to be the other team really and Georgia was still

1352
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 3: in the playoffs, they were getting ready to play Notre

1353
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 3: Dame in the Sugar Bowl, and Georgia still had the

1354
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 3: awkward Carson Beck's that's in Bennett thing. You know, they're

1355
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 3: kind of, well, you can't I'm.

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Speaker 1: Gunner stock that.

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Speaker 3: I think, yeah, sorry, Gunner stock and thank you. You

1358
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 3: know that it was just awkward for them, And obviously

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01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 3: it played out where Carson Beck and then went to

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Speaker 3: Miami and Gunner Stockton is their quarterback here, so you

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01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 3: know that was a benefit, and you know, obviously we've

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01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 3: seen this year. Indiana's gotten the kid from TCU and

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01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 3: you don't pay a dude four million dollars not to

1364
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Speaker 3: start next year, right, So it's crazy for Alberto Mendoz,

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Speaker 3: you know, even before.

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Speaker 2: This year of craziness with transfer portals and things like that,

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01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 2: when you look at quarterbacks who have transferred schools, just

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01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 2: even in the last decade, that the whole there's almost

1369
01:01:56,000 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 2: a vortexa Ohio State, Oklahoma, Alabama, Georgia and now to

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Speaker 2: think that Indiana has been a part of that with

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Speaker 2: Georgia figuring out what to do and Fernando Mendoza ends

1372
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Speaker 2: up coming here. The quarterback situation, even before the portal

1373
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 2: nonsense that we've seen the last two years is it's

1374
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Speaker 2: always been crazy, it seems, in the last decade.

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Speaker 3: Well, in this tweet from Zach Osterman right now, they're

1376
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Speaker 3: having their final press conference down there in Atlanta, said

1377
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 3: both coaches asked about contract and forcibility not as well,

1378
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 3: labeled the Washington quarterback. For the reason that that question

1379
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 3: is being asked uh Ostra and tweeted here, Neither coach

1380
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 3: wants to engage much, but Signetty does offer obviously there's

1381
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 3: a lot of loose ends that needs to be tied

1382
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Speaker 3: up in the whole recruiting process. If you're I think

1383
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 3: that's the most politically correct way the day before the

1384
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 3: game to say this is utter chaos, and even though

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Speaker 3: my program is benefiting from it immensely, we need to

1386
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Speaker 3: figure it out.

1387
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Speaker 2: And not only that, this is one of those things

1388
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 2: anything you say or do can be used against you

1389
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 2: in the future. You don't want to say anything publicly

1390
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 2: right now that could come back to haunt you if

1391
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 2: you're in the midst of some kind of contract dispute

1392
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 2: in the next couple of years too.

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Speaker 3: Kevin Legal teams right around the corner right don't.

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Speaker 1: Say anything that's whatever you look.

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Speaker 5: You'll find it funny though that Again, a lot of

1396
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 5: coaches will talk a big game and then pivot as

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01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,439
Speaker 5: soon as it benefits them. For example, the Texas coach

1398
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 5: or Sark he's in he was, went on the Pivot

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Speaker 5: podcast and said, if a Texas player enters the portal,

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Speaker 5: they can't come back. And I just saw a Texas

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01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 5: defensive back come back to the university after going to

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Speaker 5: the portal. So it all depends on how relatively good

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01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 5: you are you're a great player. You go to the

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01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 5: portal and we want you to come back, and you say,

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01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 5: you know what I think, I do like Texas and

1406
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 5: I don't want to raise to come back to Texas.

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Speaker 5: They'll have you a liar.

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Speaker 2: All right, Final thoughts coming up in just a moment

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Speaker 2: here as we continue to wrap up a Thursday Chris

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01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 2: ballad press conference on the way at eleven o'clock, and

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Speaker 2: we'll tell you more about that next to ninety three

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Speaker 2: five and one O seven five Fan