1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,679 Speaker 1: It changed hands and now everybody is up in arms 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: about it. 3 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 2: There's talk about TikTok. 4 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: Over the past five days, US users have deleted TikTok 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 1: has they've uninstalled at an increase of one hundred and 6 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: fifty five percent okay compared with the previous three months. 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 3: Okay. 8 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: They announced that TikTok us operations are going to move 9 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: to that new joint venture under Adam Presser. 10 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 2: He was named the CEO. 11 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: You've also got people like Larry Ellison in charge, and 12 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: that has prompted many TikTok users to. 13 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 2: Delete the app. 14 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 1: They say that there is a new privacy policy which 15 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: requires consent for data collection, including information like racial and 16 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: ethnic origin, sexual orientation, citizenship, and even financial info. And 17 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: this is the reason that has prompted many people to 18 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: say no, thank you, because if the threat of China 19 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: having your information before wasn't enough, now they're saying that 20 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 1: the US operations are taking it one step further. 21 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's been a lot of chatter on TikTok and 22 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 4: other places. So as this US firm has now taken 23 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 4: control of TikTok, there are users that are claiming that 24 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 4: the app is different, the algorithm isn't working the same. 25 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 4: But most of what people are up in arms with 26 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 4: is this new privacy statement that talks about all the 27 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 4: data they're collecting. I got news for you. When China 28 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 4: owned it, they were collecting at least all of that 29 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 4: data and probably a lot more. And this is true 30 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 4: for any app on your phone. Look, if you are 31 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 4: concerned about your data, if you are concerned about your 32 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 4: privacy to that degree, then you probably shouldn't have a smartphone. 33 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 4: Because all of our information is out there everywhere all 34 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 4: the time. 35 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: It's been out there. This is nothing been out there 36 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 2: with Facebook. It does Instagram. 37 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 4: It seems like kind of a bit of fake outrage 38 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 4: that as soon as it the algorithm and the contents 39 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 4: moved from China's control to the United States control and 40 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 4: we update our privacy policy or TikTok does under the 41 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 4: US control, that now, oh that's it. Now I'm gone. 42 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 4: It seems a little performative to me. And I'm going 43 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 4: to guess here that in three months, six months, nobody's 44 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 4: going to know the difference in TikTok will just keep 45 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 4: chugging along like it always has. 46 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: Now, another thing that happened yesterday There was a major 47 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: outage on TikTok. 48 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: There was a. 49 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: Power outage at some data centers and that affected uploads 50 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: and feeds and access for a lot of users. 51 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: It lasted for quite. 52 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: A while, and that following the January twenty second deal 53 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: has made a lot of people a little more paranoid. 54 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: It has fueled that because not only are there concerns 55 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: about the agreement, the terms of agreement, which does anybody 56 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: actually read? 57 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: But many people are saying that And. 58 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 3: If you say yes, you're a liar. 59 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 4: Nobody is reading the terms of agreement on any app 60 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 4: or software. 61 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 3: We just scroll through all of it to the bottom 62 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 3: and hit three. 63 00:02:58,120 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah. 64 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: Well, a lot of people are saying that that outage 65 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: was due to censorship and platform changes and shadow banning, 66 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: and that's why a lot of people were choosing to 67 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: uninstall it as well. Now because TikTok has lost people, 68 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: where are they going? There are some new apps that 69 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: saw spikes and downloads, and I've heard of one of them. 70 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 2: The rest I have no idea. 71 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 3: Okay, well let me tell you what do you got here? 72 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: Red Note increased their downloads by fifty three percent. 73 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 4: Well, good for them, I've never heard it. Skylight Social Nope, 74 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 4: never heard of it. 75 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 2: Have increased by nine hundred and nineteen percent. 76 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 77 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: Now the last one, which is up one thousand percent, 78 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: never heard of it. 79 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 2: It's called up scrolled upscrolled. Do you ever heard of that? 80 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 3: I've never heard of it. 81 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 4: And just because it's up one thousand percent means it 82 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 4: could have had one user yesterday and today it's got 83 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 4: one thousand users, and that would be up one thousand percent. 84 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 4: Actually technically would be ten users to a thousand to 85 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 4: one thousand percent. But that doesn't mean that there's still 86 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 4: a lot of people on there. Remember what everybody was 87 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 4: moving over to threads. That was the Twitter killer. Meta 88 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 4: was going to launch this new app called Threads, and 89 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 4: everybody logged into it and tried it out for a 90 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 4: day or a week, and then everybody went away, and 91 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,839 Speaker 4: then it was gonna be Blue Sky. Oh we're sick 92 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 4: of Twitter after Elon bought it. It's terrible, it's awful. 93 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 4: We're all moving to blue Everybody announcing their departure like 94 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 4: it was an airport. I'm no longer posting on Twitter. 95 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 4: I'm moving to Blue Sky. And now it seems that 96 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 4: the vast majority of those people are suddenly posting on 97 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 4: Twitter again. 98 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: Have you checked out blue Sky in a while? I 99 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 2: never have. 100 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 3: I've never downloaded blue Sky. 101 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 4: I did download Threads and made an account for my 102 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 4: business that I run and have really never touched it since. 103 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: You made an account and said okay, so you were 104 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: one of the people who look I went. 105 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 2: There and then left. 106 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 3: I'm all for trying new things. 107 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 4: If there's a new app about out that people are 108 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 4: talking about and it's interesting, I feel like I've got 109 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 4: to download it, check it out, see it for myself. 110 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 3: I did that with Threads. 111 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: I saw it as unimpressed. 112 00:04:58,120 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 3: Well, there's no benefit to me. 113 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 4: It was just essentially the same thing is Twitter, only 114 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 4: a lot lot worse. So I'm good with Twitter. I 115 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 4: like Twitter X and I continue to use that. And 116 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 4: it's it is, it is. It is very difficult to 117 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 4: get people out of their habits and to get people 118 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 4: to migrate from one social media platform to another, especially 119 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 4: in a short period of time. Now they may do 120 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 4: it over a long period of time and you but 121 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 4: but it's still not that dramatic. 122 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 3: You hear all this talk. Oh, Facebook is dead, nobody 123 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 3: uses Facebook. Everybody's on TikTok. Yeah, Facebook's still the number 124 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 3: one social media app in the world. 125 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: No, actually, I believe it's YouTube. 126 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, second to YouTube, although there's a lot of people 127 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 4: that don't consider YouTube a social media app, certainly not 128 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 4: in the way that Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, and Facebook are. 129 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 4: But Facebook is still used by tens and tens and 130 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 4: tens of millions of people in this country, even though 131 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 4: the popular narrative is that nobody's on Facebook anymore.