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Speaker 4: Go to the Seattle Seahawks with Philip Rivers under center.

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Speaker 4: Gave us team a chance to win. But I don't

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Speaker 4: Good morning, Kevin Bowen. Then we've got our third member

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Speaker 4: what do you make of what happened yesterday?

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Speaker 2: Well, when you've won one games in Halloween, it's hard

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Speaker 4: Yeah, look all the things that you said, unbelievable story

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I said to you guys late late last week,

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Speaker 2: They averaged three point seven yards per play. Again, just

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Speaker 2: Well, you got to mention Fernando Mendoza and the Heisman

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Speaker 4: this is Rickard on the couch later that night, rewatching

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Speaker 4: the speech.

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Speaker 2: Really, she liked it so well, and I thought it

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Speaker 2: was cool too. Ralph Russo, who've had on the show,

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Speaker 2: a long time national college football writer, he said he

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Speaker 2: had covered I think it was over twenty Heisman Trophy ceremonies.

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Speaker 2: He said that was the first time he's ever seen

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Speaker 2: the winner's teammates show up. You know, it looked like

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Speaker 2: there's about a dozen or so of his teammates that

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Speaker 2: showed up to the ceremony and all of that. So

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Speaker 2: that was just a really cool scene as well on

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Speaker 2: on Saturday Night.

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Speaker 4: Since that announcement, Diego Pavi has gone viral for a

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Speaker 4: couple of incidents that probably don't shine too favorably on

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Speaker 4: him either. Kevin, I don't know if you saw that.

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Speaker 2: He strikes me maybe from the Manzel tree that was

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Speaker 2: that was.

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Speaker 4: I was getting a lot of Johnny Manzil vibes with

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Speaker 4: him and his boys walking down the street New York.

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Speaker 2: His brothers don't look like, you know, you want to

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Speaker 2: see them in Mark Sanchez and an Alley anyway.

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Speaker 4: Uh, the only folks not intimidated by those would be

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Speaker 4: the Jokic brothers because they all are a foot and

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Speaker 4: n half all than those guys.

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Speaker 5: All right, coming up.

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Speaker 4: In a moment, as Mark says, break we will talk

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Speaker 4: more about Philip Rivers and the Indianapolis Colts. What happens now?

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Speaker 4: The story was tremendous until it wasn't. Now what we'll

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Speaker 4: talk about it next ninety three five one.

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Speaker 2: Anna condu, doo anna condudo, my anna.

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Speaker 6: Conduct don't want none unless you got buns on.

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Speaker 3: Previously the fan More Show.

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Speaker 4: Just taking another look at the philip Rivers avatar in

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Speaker 4: the Madden twenty six.

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Speaker 2: James the put some junk in that truck for that.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Becky, look at herfect that's a big

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Speaker 2: looking man right there. Man, how would you look at that?

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Speaker 4: You're looking at the the from behind philip Rivers.

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Speaker 5: There that is a simulation of a fat ass right there.

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Speaker 5: They put some weight on that boy.

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Speaker 2: Oh jeez, look at the butt on that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he must work out. I mean you mentioned it

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Speaker 4: as Tim Allen was to the Santa Claus.

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Speaker 3: Does this look like.

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Speaker 5: A little weight to you?

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Speaker 3: I've forty five pounds a week.

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Speaker 4: It's not like he's rolling out like a Homer Simpson

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Speaker 4: hotbelly though, is he look at that blubberfly? Yes, there's

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Speaker 4: canceled my wife.

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Speaker 2: I don't know when you were there in the room,

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Speaker 2: like lift it, sir. I'm just saying you were in

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Speaker 2: the room.

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Speaker 4: How much bigger than he lived?

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Speaker 2: He certainly put on some weight.

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Speaker 3: Damn boy, Damn boy, that's a thicker.

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Speaker 4: I just tined I'd find it amusing to see what

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Speaker 4: the avatar was for mad And that's all you're sick.

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Speaker 3: You know that you're really sick, not sick that you

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Speaker 3: are sick. That's a sick thing to do.

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Speaker 9: Well.

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Speaker 4: He was able to get him sixteen points and put

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Speaker 4: him in position to get a win. I mean, here's

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Speaker 4: the thing I will say about Philip Rivers. He wasn't

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Speaker 4: a huge difference maker, but he gave them a chance

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Speaker 4: to win yesterday. Is that the nicest thing you can

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Speaker 4: say about that performance yesterday? It was inspiring for all

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Speaker 4: the reasons we've talked about.

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Speaker 5: And I'm here for that part of it.

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Speaker 4: And I thought, oh my gosh, for a minute after

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Speaker 4: he got him that that field goal at the end,

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Speaker 4: I thought, are we going to talk about Philip Rivers

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Speaker 4: pulling this off tomorrow? The one thing I will say,

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Speaker 4: and I was texting back and forth with some people yesday.

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Speaker 4: He did give them an opportunity to win that football game.

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Speaker 5: Kevin, you can't say that.

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Speaker 2: Are we just ignoring Mark's re entry there?

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Speaker 4: No, I was saying it because it makes me sound

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Speaker 4: like I was just just ragging on Phillip all week

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Speaker 4: long for being a little overweight.

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Speaker 8: It's one of the few things that works today, so

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Speaker 8: we better appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: I think was epic. I think it was like a

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Speaker 2: three minute long description of Jeff talking about Philip Rivers' ass.

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Speaker 2: I know it was glorious.

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Speaker 8: I wanted James to hear that, so I'm glad James

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Speaker 8: was able to join us so that he could hear that.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure you know a three five am alarm

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Speaker 2: for James Boyd to hear Jeff talking about Philip Rivers's butt.

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Speaker 2: Good morning.

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Speaker 4: I believe it was junk in the trunk, was the line?

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Speaker 4: Good morning, James Boyd, how's Seattle this morning?

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Speaker 9: It's dark? Getting ready to leave the hotel? Flight got

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Speaker 9: pushed back, but have it talk to you guys.

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Speaker 4: Ah, So, what was your big takeaway of the Philip

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Speaker 4: River experience?

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Speaker 5: For the Colts yesterday.

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Speaker 9: I think how much it hurt him after the game,

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Speaker 9: he was so emotional, And there were two sides of it.

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Speaker 9: There was the gratitude to be back out there, oldest

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Speaker 9: quarterback officially in Cold's history to play a game, but

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Speaker 9: the pain of not being the third quarterback to win

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Speaker 9: a game at forty four or older in the NFL.

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Speaker 9: So you could tell that how quickly he switched from being,

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Speaker 9: like he said last week, a fan of the team

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Speaker 9: and watching every game to now going through the agony

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Speaker 9: of realizing, man, we were this close to you know,

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Speaker 9: snapping our losing streak and keyboard hour because he used

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Speaker 9: hour and we so frequently, like he had been here

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Speaker 9: all year, and trying to, you know, give this team

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Speaker 9: some hope. So they're not dead yet, they do have

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Speaker 9: a chance, and I think you still are encouraged a

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Speaker 9: little bit after yesterday's performance. But yet again it's a

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Speaker 9: fourth straight loss.

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Speaker 2: James, I don't get any vibe that it will be

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Speaker 2: anyone other than Philip Rivers a week from tonight starting

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Speaker 2: under center. Do you get any vibe that they will

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Speaker 2: rethink their quarterback situation. No, not at all.

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Speaker 9: And Kevin, you know, me well enough. Had there been

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Speaker 9: any inkling, I would have acted splet out, like should

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Speaker 9: he still be out there at his age or you know,

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Speaker 9: given his performance, But I thought he actually did pretty fine.

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Speaker 9: And given the fact that Seattle is one of the

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Speaker 9: top defenses, if not de top defense in the league,

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Speaker 9: I thought he played very well considering that this is

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Speaker 9: a team that prior to yesterday, had to give up

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Speaker 9: a touchdown in two weeks. So I get everyone saying,

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Speaker 9: oh rder Leonard could do the same thing. Are you sure,

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Speaker 9: because other quarterbacks have you know, done tried to do

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Speaker 9: the same and they failed. So Philip did do something

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Speaker 9: that other quarterbacks haven't done over the last two games.

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Speaker 2: James, what'd you see on that final drive from the

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Speaker 2: Colts defense?

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Speaker 9: I thought they were just too soft, honestly, maybe playing

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Speaker 9: AWFU little bit more, and maybe you don't trust your

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Speaker 9: guys as much in situations like that because you don't

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Speaker 9: have Tabarious Award and you don't have Sauce Gardner out there.

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Speaker 9: It feels bad to say, like, oh man, the defense

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Speaker 9: offs in the game because they didn't allow it touchdown.

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Speaker 9: But at the same time, those are the moments where,

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Speaker 9: again you have to be able to close and they

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Speaker 9: weren't able to do it. Talk to Lato locked to

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Speaker 9: in the locker room and he mentioned, you know that

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Speaker 9: he felt kind of bad for himself in a way,

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Speaker 9: not saying that he thought a pity party, but he

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Speaker 9: was like, yo, I should have been better there because

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Speaker 9: I feel like Sam Doronold had too much time and

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Speaker 9: giving him too much time against those cornerbacks that worked

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Speaker 9: out for long.

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Speaker 4: James Boy on the road joining us on the pay

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Speaker 4: Less Slickers hotline right now. We knew that the Colts

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Speaker 4: offensive line was a little banged up going into that game,

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Speaker 4: and then we lost Bernard Ryman in the middle of

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Speaker 4: the game. Where is that offensive line headed this week?

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Speaker 9: I'm not sure how Bernard Ryman will fair going forward.

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Speaker 9: He did have a huge brace on his right elbow

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Speaker 9: before not sorry, before the game was over, and then

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Speaker 9: after the game. Shane Stiken did not have much of

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Speaker 9: an update WILLO from him later today, But if he

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Speaker 9: is down, yeah, they have to go with the guy

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Speaker 9: Luke Tanuda who hadn't played real snaps in the NFL

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Speaker 9: game since two thousand and two. I'm sorry twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 9: and I believe he only played like seven offensive snaps

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Speaker 9: even then, so very inexperienced. And again that goes back

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Speaker 9: to well, think about Philip Rivers. You can criticize the

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Speaker 9: performance and not score on more points.

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Speaker 2: But he was doing a lot of that with two

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Speaker 2: backup tackles, James last one for me from a offensive standpoint.

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Speaker 2: Shifting years now a week from Monday, Shane said something

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Speaker 2: along the lines of, and I'm paraphrasing here, but you know,

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Speaker 2: we will open things up a little bit more, whatever,

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Speaker 2: expand the playbook a little bit more. What exactly does

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Speaker 2: that look like, because I don't think the arm of

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Speaker 2: Philip Rivers allows you to really expand it much more.

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Speaker 2: But maybe I'm wrong on that.

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Speaker 3: I'm not exactly sure.

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Speaker 9: Maybe that has to do a lot with what Seattle

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Speaker 9: was doing and how stout their defense is. I will

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Speaker 9: say I do think that there are some timing and

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Speaker 9: chemistry things that could probably get better at because watching

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Speaker 9: that game live, Kevin, I'm just sitting there all the

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Speaker 9: guys on press row and just saying, they need a

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Speaker 9: turnover or they need to be able to score on

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Speaker 9: the touchdowns to finish this game. And I thought that

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Speaker 9: the other touchdown opportunity was the Josh downs, not the

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Speaker 9: short one he caught, but the long one where they

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Speaker 9: were not on the same page. And if he gets

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Speaker 9: his head around sooner, that to me is the walk

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Speaker 9: in touch and down and you put a miss pressure

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Speaker 9: on Seattle and you're winning that game. So perhaps that's

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Speaker 9: more of what they'd be about, open it up, just

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Speaker 9: having more chemistry with those guys. But for the most part, yeah,

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Speaker 9: I would expect to, you know, throw it fifty yards

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Speaker 9: down the field. But the ben Gay was working out

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Speaker 9: pretty well yesterday for the old guy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I said, how do you not like Philip Rivers?

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Speaker 4: How do you not root for him? How do you

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Speaker 4: not root for that story? I just worry about the

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Speaker 4: fact that he averaged four and a half yards less

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Speaker 4: than four and a half yards per attempt, and even

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Speaker 4: some of those shorter sideline routes, like those defenders almost

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Speaker 4: got there on plays they shouldn't have almost got there.

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Speaker 4: That's what worries me, and I don't know how you

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Speaker 4: fix that, James.

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Speaker 9: That's a good point. But at the same time, I

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Speaker 9: go back to the throw on their penultimate drive, the

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Speaker 9: one that put him ahead, where he throws it back

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Speaker 9: shoulder to Alec pierce before it pierce, he would turn around.

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Speaker 9: Is that a throw Rdy Lennard is gonna make in

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Speaker 9: that moment? I'm not so sure about that. So to me,

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Speaker 9: it's not necessarily about the arm strength. That's a big

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Speaker 9: party it. It's you know, can you make a few

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Speaker 9: throws down the field just to give him a chance.

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Speaker 9: And again, like I said, he connect on a couple

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Speaker 9: more yesterday's game, and perhaps we're sitting here today talking

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Speaker 9: about you know, a Hollywood ending.

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Speaker 4: James, travel safe, Thanks for checking in as always, and

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Speaker 4: we'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 9: Okay, Yes, I'm glad to get back on the Eastern time.

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Speaker 9: This specific times.

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Speaker 4: All stuff is crazy, all right, buddy, Tomar James.

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Speaker 5: There you go.

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Speaker 4: James Boyd, third member of our booth on the road

658
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Speaker 4: with the Indianapolis Colts. They lose yesterday eighteen sixteen, a

659
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 4: game that featured nine field goals and one touchdown.

660
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 2: Kevin, how about those two kickers yesterday?

661
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 5: They were getting it done, They were getting done.

662
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 4: I kept I'm almost hoping between the distance and how

663
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 4: many field goals he'd had, wasn't part of you like, Okay,

664
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 4: this is the one where he drifts off just a

665
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 4: little bit to the right.

666
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 2: Boy, he's got that patented cut, right. Wouldn't we all

667
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: love to had that ball flight on the golf course?

668
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: There just a little three yard cut every time there

669
00:30:53,200 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 2: from Jason Myers. Boy, you know last week when we

670
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 2: got into this debate. As the week moved along, you know,

671
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 2: I think I said to you guys, quite often we're

672
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 2: probably splitting hairs and describing the differences of these quarterbacks

673
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 2: that potentially could go out there, and really I guess

674
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 2: it boiled down to Rivers or Riley Leonard. Again. I

675
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 2: still would have rather seen Riley Leonard particularly healthy. And

676
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 2: this is coming from a guy that I think our

677
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 2: audience knows this. I've never been the biggest Riley Leonard guy, Jeff,

678
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 2: you saw my reaction.

679
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 4: You're another Dame guy, and you weren't a big Riley

680
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:35,959
Speaker 4: Leonard guy after he was drafted.

681
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 2: But I think the threat of him running the football,

682
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: I think the threat of him trying to throw the

683
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 2: ball down the field would offer a little bit more

684
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 2: for this offense. And I do think that would give you,

685
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 2: I guess, just a little bit of a higher ceiling

686
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 2: and whereas the defense just doesn't have to sit there

687
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 2: you know, within what eight yards of line of scrimmage

688
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: and play the game in that way, which is what

689
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 2: they do with rivers, because I think not only does

690
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 2: it largely eliminate Alec Pearce from the game plan, Jeff,

691
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 2: I think it really stymys your run game. I mean,

692
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 2: what was Jonathan Taylor's long run yesterday? I mean the

693
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 2: guy had a million carries yesterday? You had two plays

694
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 2: over fifteen yards all games.

695
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 4: Eleven yards was his longest run. And how many carries

696
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 4: they have he had twenty five?

697
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 2: I mean two plays were fifteen yards all game.

698
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 4: There were a couple of couple three Jonathan Taylor. Patton

699
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 4: did play though it looks like he stopped for nothing

700
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 4: and he wiggles forward for four or five.

701
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 2: Yards Like I don't care what you want to measure,

702
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 2: yards per attempts from rivers as a thrower or yards

703
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 2: per play as an offense as a whole. I mean,

704
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 2: those numbers are absolutely horrific, however you slice it. I mean,

705
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: those are just horrific, horrific numbers offensively here. So again,

706
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 2: maybe we are splitting hairs. Maybe with Leonard you would

707
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 2: have had whatever two three turnovers and at the end

708
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: of the day. The final score wouldn't have looked much

709
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 2: different from a point total stand point. But I just

710
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 2: think with this archaic of an offense, you need so

711
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 2: much to be perfect. And think about it, they almost

712
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 2: got perfect everywhere. You know, Blake Groupy kicked the life

713
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 2: out of it. He was terrific your defense until that

714
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 2: final drive. Gave you everything you would have probably wanted

715
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 2: in that game, and yet it still wasn't enough to

716
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 2: get it done. So again I asked James the question,

717
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 2: but I don't get any I fully expect Philiver Rivers

718
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 2: to be the starter next next month. I think Shane

719
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 2: Stykeen is all in on this, and I asked this

720
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 2: in all seriousness, where are the improvements. It's not like

721
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: there's gonna be even I guess Josh Downs maybe gets

722
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 2: his head around a little quicker on that throw, but

723
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: like his arm isn't going to grow an arm strength

724
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 2: in the next week. It's not like you were saying, oh,

725
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: he only knew X amount of the playbook. No, I

726
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 2: mean Philip Rivers. By all accounts, you brought him in

727
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 2: because he has a mastery of the playbook. So it's

728
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 2: not like you're going to necessarily, you know, implement a

729
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 2: little bit more into the passing tree that you had,

730
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 2: because I just think there's a clear limitation. Anytime that

731
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 2: ball's in the air, you got to pray the rosary

732
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 2: that he gets there on time.

733
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 5: And look, I want to make this clear too.

734
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 4: There were a lot of fun things to watch about

735
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 4: Philip Rivers's he's out on the field, he clearly is

736
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 4: in command of that offense. That's one thing I did

737
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 4: take away. He knows what's going on, he knows what

738
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 4: the defense is doing. I think we all kind of

739
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 4: figured it would be Philip Rivers' esque in that way,

740
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 4: and it was.

741
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 5: He delivered that.

742
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 4: He never looked like the moment was too big for him.

743
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 4: It never looked like, oh my gosh, this guy hasn't

744
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,240
Speaker 4: played a down of football in five years.

745
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 2: The only thing I see, did you see the sack?

746
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 2: Well that I thought the sack was one of the

747
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 2: sadder things I've ever seen.

748
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 5: Did you see the last year of Philip Rivers?

749
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 4: Sometimes, But my point being is physically the mental acumen

750
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 4: is still there. He wasn't bothered being that in that pocket.

751
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 4: You didn't see him getting happy feed or anything like that.

752
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 4: He couldn't move. But you didn't see him like getting

753
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 4: jittery or nervous or anything like that.

754
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 5: He was in command of the offense. He knew what

755
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 5: he was doing. He can't throw the football.

756
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 4: I don't know how you can win in the NFL

757
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 4: if you can't throw the football.

758
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're you're preaching to the choir, Jeff, Like, look

759
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 2: the Philip Rivers thing. It is inspiring, it's wild. It's

760
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 2: the talk of the town. The TD celebration. Look like,

761
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 2: you know, a little turkey trot game here in Indy

762
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 2: and you're whatever. Your uncle's slinging around the yard and

763
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 2: he's talking trash to you. The clip of him pregame

764
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 2: going through the call sheet on the field, the viral

765
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 2: moment mark. We should probably pull that audio at some point.

766
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 2: The viral you know, comments after the game and describing

767
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 2: the inspiration towards his high school team. You know, CBS

768
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 2: has shown his son and his brother and the crab.

769
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 4: How about the team in the room.

770
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 5: That was cool?

771
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was pretty cool. Again, are we watching Disney Plus?

772
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 2: Are we watching an NFL game? Is this like a

773
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 2: cool blue episode or is this like a wait a minute,

774
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 2: are we just simply sweeping under the rug the culture

775
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 2: in the midst of the biggest collapse the NFL is

776
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 2: scene over a decade. Because like, that's where I struggle

777
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 2: on this Monday morning of the big picture of twenty

778
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 2: twenty five. Reality of the Cult season is they've won

779
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 2: one game since Halloween. They are trending towards not winning

780
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 2: the division for an eleventh straight year. Missing the playoffs

781
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 2: are a fifth straight year, and again, the biggest collapse

782
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 2: the NFL scene in over a decade. It's hard for

783
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 2: me to sit here and like, man, that Rivers thing, Boy,

784
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 2: that was incredible, that was all inspiring, all of that.

785
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 2: It's like they've lost five of six and right now

786
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: this is looking like a disastrous end to a season

787
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 2: that it would have been ludicrous a month and a

788
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 2: half ago if you would have said, hey, the Colts

789
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 2: aren't going to make the playoffs.

790
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, And here's the crazy part. How different is this

791
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 4: conversation If the Seahawks don't get into field goal position

792
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 4: and Jason Myers doesn't get that sixth field goal and

793
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 4: the Colts win at sixteen to fifteen.

794
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 2: All the things that group we didn't make a sixty

795
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 2: yard er before that's so let's not act like the

796
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 2: Colts didn't have a little bit.

797
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 4: But here's my point side of it. All the things

798
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 4: we say are all still true. If the Colts win

799
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 4: that game sixteen fifteen.

800
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 2: Correct, well, you would be in a much better playoff

801
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 2: playoffs situation right now. You need wins.

802
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 5: Here's my point. Here's my point.

803
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 4: When it comes to the Philip Rivers discussion. Everything we've

804
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 4: just talked about, none of that changes. Even if they

805
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 4: win sixteen to fifteen. He still can't throw the football.

806
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 4: So are we having a different discussion because they've won well?

807
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: And again, this is where it gets really bottom lined

808
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 2: in the month of December, given how the season has

809
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 2: played out, blowing the lead in Kansas City, losing two

810
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: critical divisional games each of the last two weeks, Houston

811
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 2: and Jacksonville. So much of what we witness over the

812
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 2: course of sixty minutes, it boils down to did you

813
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 2: win or lose? Like that's just how the standings are

814
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 2: right now. And I know I'm probably like oversimplifying it,

815
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 2: but you have got to somehow make up multiple games

816
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 2: given and how it looks. And I get that injuries

817
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 2: now are starting to really take their toll on this team,

818
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 2: and I mean you played yesterday for what three quarters

819
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: plus without both your offensive tackles. I mean, it's been

820
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 2: quite a while since the Colts have had that happen.

821
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 2: So the question becomes now of all right, how do

822
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 2: you overcome that? How do you try and somehow some

823
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 2: way get wins? Plurally, you have to win two of

824
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 2: your last three games in all likelihood to get into

825
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 2: the dance. And I think that's what again makes this

826
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 2: conversation really difficult on a Monday, because, like the River story,

827
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 2: if we just talked purely Philip Rivers as a grandfather

828
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 2: coming off the couch five years removed from playing in

829
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 2: the NFL, eighteen hundred days since his last NFL pass,

830
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 2: so much of that is a movie and it's all

831
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 2: inspiring and it's unbelievable, and it's why it was a

832
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 2: talk of the NFL world leading into Sunday. So like

833
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 2: that is isolated Jeff from Oh my gosh, this team

834
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 2: has lost five or six, they've lost four in a row.

835
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 2: They've won one game since Halloween. They're on the verge

836
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 2: of maybe the biggest collapse we've seen in the NFL,

837
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: and over a decade like all of that is the

838
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 2: big picture twenty twenty five view of it. What does

839
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 2: this mean for the future of the franchise. Should Chris

840
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 2: Ballard and Shane Siken be evaluated on this season? Are

841
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 2: we just chalking it up to injuries or not? Is

842
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 2: this going to be a tenth year of Chris Ballard?

843
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 2: Is this going to be a four season of Shane

844
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 2: Sikein It's been an epic collapse.

845
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 4: I don't know Alice to say it, and you know,

846
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 4: Michael from Louisville, I think, puts it very well in

847
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 4: a text this morning, Applot and love the effort of

848
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 4: the whole team, I really do, But you can't put

849
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 4: Rivers out there again. He can only throw the ball

850
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 4: five to seven yards and that is not going to

851
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 4: win any of these last three games. Either let Leonard

852
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 4: play or get Ar ready to go. I don't know

853
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 4: that Ar is ready to go. People keep thinking you

854
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 4: just got to get him ready to go. Yeah, he

855
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 4: could either see or he can't.

856
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. I guess to answer that I did. Knox Teck

857
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson to be played, Philip Rivers to be your

858
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 2: start on Monday week from Monday expected to be Philip

859
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 2: Rivers once again. And look, probably one of the more

860
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 2: critical people on Riley Leonard, having watched him at Notre Dame.

861
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 2: What he would give you is a definite run threat.

862
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 2: There's no denying that. I think that would aid Jonathan

863
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: Taylor a little bit more and at least an ability

864
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 2: to try some things down the field. It's not going

865
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 2: to be the ability to you know, find a mire

866
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 2: Abdullah as quickly as you are in a in a

867
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 2: route tree and you know, whatever third and four becomes,

868
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 2: you know, a first down game. That's not Ry Learns game.

869
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 2: You're not going to get that as consistently as Rivers.

870
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 2: Certainly provided that yesterday, Rivers knew where to go with

871
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 2: the ball a whole lot. But is there just a

872
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 2: little bit more of potential for this offense. I do

873
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 2: think it would have or would be there a little

874
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 2: bit more with Lender. Basically, Rivers creates a high floor

875
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 2: in a super low ceiling. You might be lowering the floor.

876
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 2: You probably are lowering the floor with a rookie quarterback,

877
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 2: a day three starter, Leonard, but you are also raising

878
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 2: the ceiling. To me, there's no denying that. And I

879
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 2: don't want to get lost on the run game aspect

880
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 2: to that, because when you like, there were a couple

881
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 2: of moments in the game where Seattle you could tell

882
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 2: that their principals defensively had them reacting to the quarterback

883
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 2: like he was going to keep it, and it was like, no, no, no,

884
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 2: that can be thrown out the window against the forty

885
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 2: four year old Philip Rive.

886
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 4: You really are playing eleven on ten here, literally the

887
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 4: running game, and Jeff you just rattled it off.

888
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor's long carrio was what eleven yards in twenty

889
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 2: five carries. I don't know if people fully realize the

890
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 2: Colts had two plays over fifteen yard yesterday. That's really

891
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 2: hard to do in the NFL. I mean usually I

892
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 2: want to say the cold season low before yesterday was

893
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 2: four such plays. And I mean we're talking what a

894
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,720
Speaker 2: thirteen game season up until this point.

895
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 4: Had a seventeen yard reception by Tyler Warren and a

896
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 4: sixteen yard reception by Alec Beers.

897
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: Should be given the final drive in the defense after

898
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 2: the break? Did you have issues in that effort there.

899
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 4: Other than the fact that Seattle did whatever they wanted

900
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 4: to do for five plays, a couple of plays in

901
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 4: a row to get in a field goal.

902
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 5: Really was at Musician.

903
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 2: It wasn't even five.

904
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 5: I don't think it was.

905
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 2: I feel like they spiked it on half those plays.

906
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 2: I need it was two plays to get into it.

907
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, so we'll talk about it to all.

908
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 4: Eighteen sixteen Seahawks get the win, storybook ending didn't quite happen.

909
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 4: Philip Rivers was kind of what we all thought he

910
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 4: was going to be. Can't move, can't really throw, is

911
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 4: always going to get you in the right play, do

912
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 4: some good things. But I don't think that can win

913
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 4: in the National Football League. And they had an opportunity

914
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 4: to do it yesterday and let it slip away. We'll

915
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 4: talk about it next. We'll take some of your texts

916
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 4: to two three nine ten seventy, maybe even some of

917
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 4: your phone calls also two nine, ten seventy. It's the

918
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 4: fan Morning Show and the Monday Morning after right here

919
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 4: at ninety three. It was a hard fought game, back

920
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 4: and forth, but the Seahawks get the win on a

921
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 4: fifty six yard field goal by Jason Myers not long

922
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 4: after a sixty yard field goal by Blake Groupie, who

923
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 4: was three for three yesterday, so he is he has

924
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 4: not been a problem since he was on in an

925
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 4: emergency situation. Seems like everybody's being brought on in an

926
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 4: emergency situation.

927
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,280
Speaker 2: Now, go shout out, Blake groupy. I know the Colts

928
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 2: have been struck by the swagger of the five to

929
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 2: seven kicker. I said, in all seriousness, and boy, that's

930
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 2: sixty yarder. That thing would have been good from sixty

931
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:14,919
Speaker 2: two or sixty three.

932
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 5: He drilled it.

933
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 4: It was. It was a nice kick, and had the

934
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 4: defense have been able to just as you pointed out,

935
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 4: just keep everything in front of him and make that

936
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 4: clock tick, they might have won that football game yesterday,

937
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 4: but they lose their now eight and six, they've lost. Man,

938
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 4: can you believe now that they've lost five of their

939
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 4: last six after starting seven and one, Kevin seven and one,

940
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 4: and you're likely to miss the playoffs at this point

941
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 4: in time.

942
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 8: I called Blake groopy what I call my daughter Nora,

943
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 8: tiny but mighty. That leg was booming yesterday.

944
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 5: I like that.

945
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 2: You should relay that to Blake Groupie, and let's get

946
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 2: the T shirts printed up all we can't. It'll take

947
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 2: out as a complaint. I know when he trotted out

948
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 2: there for the sixty yard or Matty was like, wait,

949
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 2: that's him. I'm like, yeah, that is him. It's like

950
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,240
Speaker 2: one of those mushrooms in the Mario game that somehow shrink,

951
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: you know, does the opposite effect.

952
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 8: I'd like to see him and Diego Pavia stand next

953
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 8: to each other.

954
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 4: All right, we'll talk more about the Colts coming up

955
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 4: in a minute. Also, a tough day for the Pacers yesterday.

956
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 4: But the meantime, we've got our good, bad.

957
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,479
Speaker 5: Ugly of the week you name it. It is here, Mark,

958
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 5: who is the goat?

959
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 2: I'd gold with you all that I was the greatest

960
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 2: of all time. Short here's Michael at the filine. I

961
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 2: shot on em.

962
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 3: All got or goat? This guy sucks of the week Mark.

963
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 5: That will never not make me laugh.

964
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 2: I love that open Kevin.

965
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 4: I've been intrigued by your little tease about eight minutes

966
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 4: ago ever since you did it. So I'm gonna let

967
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 4: you start off with Goat of the week or you

968
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 4: want to go good or bad to start things up.

969
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 2: Well, we'll usually follow whatever happens to the Colts result.

970
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 2: So this would be the bad goat of the weekend.

971
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 2: And it is the man talking. It is Kevin Bowen.

972
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 2: Shout out to. We went to a puppet show with

973
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 2: the kids and the family on Saturday morning up there

974
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 2: in Carmel. Lovely little puppet show. The kids had a

975
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 2: great time at it, and I'm sitting next to my

976
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 2: brother and young boy walks in. It kind of sits

977
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 2: in the general vicinity of where our kids are. I

978
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 2: takes off his jacket and the shirt he has on.

979
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 2: The you in the amount of blood pressure that rose

980
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 2: in my body when this three year old boy took

981
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 2: off his jacket and had a Miami University shirt on.

982
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 5: Were you ready to throw down with a three year old?

983
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 2: I wanted Max Bowen to just stomp on him. And

984
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 2: then his father takes off his jacket. He's also rocking

985
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 2: Miami Hurricane shirt. It is so utterly pathetic that that

986
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 2: makes me feel the way that it does. Can you

987
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 2: just tell me to get the hell over it?

988
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 10: Move on?

989
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 2: Notre Dame wind and wind all last week, Kevin, it's done.

990
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 2: It's over. You didn't make the playoffs. You can gripe,

991
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 2: you can bitch, you can moan, but it's got to

992
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 2: be over after twenty four hours. Why does that make

993
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 2: me so mad? It's the Alabama one that should make you,

994
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 2: mad Oh well, that is certainly true.

995
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 4: Miami beats you ahead to head. I can at least

996
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 4: get on board with that argument. But it's the Alabama

997
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 4: getting it is the thing that I have the problem.

998
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 2: It's just disgusting that a thirty six year old human

999
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 2: reacts in the manner that.

1000
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 8: Now, Now, were you wearing Notre Dame gear as well?

1001
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 8: So they saw it and probably did like a little

1002
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 8: hat tip to you or.

1003
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 2: What I felt that? I felt like the kid was

1004
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 2: going to turn around in middle finger, Ma. Then you

1005
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 2: did the old chair poll for him, And I want

1006
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 2: to know if hope that puppet comes out and bites

1007
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 2: your nose.

1008
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 4: Did Maddie realize what was happening? Slide in between you guys?

1009
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:42,959
Speaker 4: Just to make sure there was no problem.

1010
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 2: I had Ryan bow and there to calm me down

1011
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 2: and listen to me, because but he knew, right listing

1012
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 2: under my breath, he knew, Oh yeah, he knew.

1013
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 5: He knew.

1014
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 4: Well, we got to surround ourselves with people better than

1015
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 4: ourselves all the time.

1016
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 2: Every week, yours truly, Mark Dyking? What do you got?

1017
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 8: Mine was the injury bug we talked a little bit

1018
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 8: about earlier, but Sunday was Rough for a lot of guys.

1019
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 8: Patrick Mahomes already diagnosed with the torn ACL. Micah Parsons,

1020
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 8: we expect that to be the case for him, and

1021
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,439
Speaker 8: also DeVante Adams for the Rams went down. Sean McVay said,

1022
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 8: it didn't look good right now. They're diagnosing it as

1023
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 8: a hamstring injury. But those are three guys that are

1024
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 8: catalysts for their team, all hoping to make a playoff

1025
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 8: push and Rough Rough Rough, Rough and Patrick Mahomes. Man,

1026
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 8: that was a disastrous season for the Chiefs. I don't

1027
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 8: really know when he's going to be back, but yeah,

1028
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,439
Speaker 8: a horrible season for the Chiefs gets even ten times

1029
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 8: worse because not only the miss the playoffs, now that

1030
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 8: you lost your star quarterback.

1031
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 5: I saw that happen live as I was watching the

1032
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 5: Many TV.

1033
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 4: Justually. I'm just curious, Mark, did you see that happen live? Yes?

1034
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 4: Was that a little bit late from the Chargers there?

1035
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 8: I didn't think it was late, but I mean, it's

1036
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 8: so quick that it happened, it was hard to tell.

1037
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 8: Mike Parsons, you knew right away he was probably an

1038
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,720
Speaker 8: ACL because that was non contact and everything. Least Mahomes,

1039
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 8: you were hoping it was gonna be okay, and then

1040
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 8: when he saw him getting helped to the locker room, like,

1041
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 8: oh boy, that does not look good.

1042
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 5: No, not good at all.

1043
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 4: All right, I am going to go with the And

1044
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 4: I wouldn't normally say it this way. I'd usually say

1045
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 4: one of the contenders for the Heisman Trophy, but I'm

1046
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 4: gonna say now the loser of the Heisman Trophy. In

1047
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five, Diego Pavia did about everything you could

1048
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 4: possibly do in the three hours after not hearing his

1049
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 4: name and after listening to Fernando Mendoza get the Heisman

1050
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 4: Trophy to be about as classless and disrespectful as he could.

1051
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:30,720
Speaker 4: Mark He basically was f them voters, not once but twice.

1052
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 4: He has since apologized for that and says I have

1053
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 4: nothing but respect for the people who vote for the

1054
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 4: Heisman and the Heisman process. But did you catch any

1055
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 4: of Diego Pavia both arriving to the ceremony and then

1056
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 4: his reaction after the ceremony?

1057
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 9: Mark?

1058
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, And then I saw the little like, you know,

1059
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 8: apology tweet or message that he posted and everything like

1060
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 8: that and whatnot.

1061
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 2: I don't buy it. I don't care for it at all.

1062
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 8: Let Fernando Mendoza have his flowers, get his recognition, act

1063
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,240
Speaker 8: like you've been there before. Don't have such sour grapes.

1064
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 8: So not a fan of Diego Pavio. I'm not gonna lie.

1065
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 4: No. And as you said earlier, Kevin, for a guy

1066
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 4: who could be potentially on the draft boards of a

1067
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 4: lot of teams in the NFL, did was he just

1068
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:12,720
Speaker 4: giving you Johnny Manzel vibes?

1069
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 5: And like, yeah, I think I'll pass on that one.

1070
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 2: I don't think he's very high on those draft boards

1071
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 2: to be probably not, but yeah, pretty immature from the

1072
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 2: Vanderbilt quarterback. My great go to the weekend. I think

1073
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 2: James Boyd would endorse this. Did you guys see the

1074
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 2: Steph Curry shot he made in pregame warmups?

1075
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1076
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,720
Speaker 2: That was insane, the one handed key from the tunnel

1077
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 2: to the opposite hoop. Can you can you imagine playing

1078
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 2: cornhole or beer pong against Steph Curry?

1079
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 4: He's a cheat coat his brain.

1080
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 2: You wouldn't finish half a beer. No, done already? Oh

1081
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 2: I'd like to get a turn. I say it's all serious.

1082
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 2: I would like to see Steph Curry start for the

1083
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 2: Colts of quarterback on Monday.

1084
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 4: Couldn't do Look he can throw the magine phil You

1085
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 4: imagine the touch you would have.

1086
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 2: It would be unbelievable watching him just Pepperill Actually, Philip

1087
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 2: Rivers and Steph Curry cornhole game? Would that be the

1088
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 2: greatest duo ever created?

1089
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 8: Throw the ball and throw it the way he throws

1090
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 8: it at the football?

1091
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1092
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 2: I thought you're gonna say, can Philip Rivers get it

1093
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 2: to the cornhole board?

1094
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 4: Which?

1095
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 2: Wow?

1096
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 8: Mark, Come, I wouldn't go that route? Classier than that?

1097
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 2: What do you got? Mine goes to the one and

1098
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 2: a true goat.

1099
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 8: John Cena definition called the quits after a twenty three

1100
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 8: year career on Saturday Night. A seventeen time ww champion,

1101
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 8: a Grand Slam champion, he won the Royal Rumble twice,

1102
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 8: headline WrestleMania six separate times, and most importantly, he holds

1103
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 8: the record for most wishes granted for the Makeup Witch program.

1104
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 8: A job well done by John Zenny. You will truly

1105
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 8: be missed. A big hat tip. You can't see me

1106
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 8: to you, but a hell of a career, one of

1107
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 8: the true legends of the sport.

1108
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 4: I love that I'm gonna go with I was told

1109
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 4: I was watching Sixty Minutes last night. KB Don Fisher

1110
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,879
Speaker 4: was featured significantly in that, and we talked last week

1111
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 4: about Fish being able to do that double on the

1112
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 4: day where Louisville and Indiana were played in basketball at

1113
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 4: the Fieldhouse, and then going over to call the Big

1114
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,959
Speaker 4: Ten Championship, which Indiana won and beat Ohio State.

1115
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 5: And now he's showing up on sixty Minutes.

1116
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 4: Just the nicest guy at least, He's always been good

1117
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 4: to us here at the Fan.

1118
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 5: I've never heard.

1119
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 4: Anybody say anything other than great things about Don Fitcheries.

1120
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 4: He's one of my favorite people to listen to throughout

1121
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 4: the week. When he's talking about Indiana, he's got that

1122
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 4: little chuckle that is so Don Fisher that I love

1123
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 4: all the time. And I guess, kind of on behalf

1124
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 4: of everything that's happening for Indiana and Indiana football, I'm

1125
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 4: gonna name Don Fisher as my goat of the week.

1126
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 4: I just for as long as he's been in broadcasting,

1127
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 4: to have it go the way it's gone for him

1128
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 4: this year, and to be a part of something that

1129
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 4: he loves so much, and to see the success there

1130
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 4: kind of on behalf of everybody involved down there, I'm

1131
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 4: gonna go.

1132
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 2: Don Fish love me some Fish always been great to

1133
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 2: me behind the scenes. I've enjoyed getting to know him,

1134
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 2: and I've appreciated him listening to me and answering questions

1135
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 2: that I've had. So yes, he is an absolute a legend,

1136
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 2: all right.

1137
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 4: Coming up in a moment, more on the fallout from

1138
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 4: the loss in Seattle yesterday and the debut, the re

1139
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 4: debut I guess of Philip Rivers, and a little bit

1140
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 4: more on the Pacers and their tough day over the

1141
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 4: field House. It's all straight ahead. Ninety three five and one.

1142
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 3: They seized a fan morning show with KB jab and Jeff.

1143
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 6: You know it was it was exciting. Shoot, was exciting

1144
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 6: to take a thirteen to three lead. First off, you know,

1145
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 6: I want to play that we kind of had up

1146
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 6: all week in the red zone in that area and

1147
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 6: that down and.

1148
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 3: Distance on that hash. We practiced the exact same spot, uh,

1149
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 3: you know, this week. So when things coming like that,

1150
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 3: they fire you up.

1151
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 6: Obviously, you throwing the fact that it's been eighteen hundred

1152
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,280
Speaker 6: days since I'm throwing a touchdown you know, aboard interception

1153
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 6: for that matter. So we got both those checking box checks.

1154
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,720
Speaker 6: But it was Yeah, that was exciting. That was exciting.

1155
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 6: Drive and I hack of a drive. We had a

1156
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 6: a few different plays in Mere had a big go catch,

1157
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 6: you know, Tyler had a big catch on the dover

1158
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 6: and then obviously downs gets in the end zone. And

1159
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 6: you know, again as well as ground out our games.

1160
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 6: You know, I know we didn't have a ton of

1161
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 6: yards total offense, but we controlled the ball. We did

1162
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 6: all those things that you wanted to do, you know.

1163
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 6: And again I know that in the book it says

1164
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 6: we turned them all over, but we didn't turn them

1165
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 6: all over. You know, that was obviously in desperation mode.

1166
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:14,399
Speaker 6: So all in all, disappointed, you know, thankful and nothing

1167
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 6: but gratitude from a standpoint of getting me to be

1168
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 6: here and be a part of it again, but disappointed

1169
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 6: we didn't get it done, as I had been disappointed

1170
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 6: in any other loss I've ever been a part of.

1171
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 6: Where I was.

1172
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 4: I was the quarterback Philip Rivers saw on here's performance,

1173
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 4: in the Colt's performance yesterday and eighteen sixteen loss to

1174
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 4: the Seattle Seahawks, and so many folks I think are

1175
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 4: coming down.

1176
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 5: There, like who doesn't like Philip Rivers? I get it.

1177
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 5: I get it.

1178
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 4: Verlin from Greenfield Colts. Fans used to hate him when

1179
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 4: he well back in the day, but they liked it.

1180
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 4: They became fans when he came over the Colts. He

1181
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 4: was always he was always one of those guys you

1182
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 4: couldn't stand him if he was on the other team,

1183
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 4: but you loved him if he was on your team. Right,

1184
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,919
Speaker 4: he was one of those sure Verlin from Greenfield Rights.

1185
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 4: It was fun seeing Philip on the field one more time,

1186
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 4: but I don't think I can watch that offense for

1187
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 4: three more games this season.

1188
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 2: Well, get used to it, Verlin. I futilly expect them

1189
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 2: to start a week from Monday against the forty nine ers,

1190
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 2: And Jeff, I think that's my biggest question as we

1191
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 2: transition throughout the rest of the week. The offense that

1192
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 2: you just had yesterday is not sustainable no to winning

1193
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 2: NFL games. I get that you were certainly in it

1194
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 2: and played from ahead and had a chance there late,

1195
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 2: but it's not sustainable over the course of seventeen weeks.

1196
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 2: An offense that is averaging three point seven yards per

1197
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 2: play a yards per attempt through the air of four

1198
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 2: point four, Just to put context into it, those are

1199
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 2: horrific numbers. I mean easily season lows for the Colts.

1200
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 2: They would have been lows for Rivers in twenty twenty.

1201
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 2: And you just are praying, living and dying and so

1202
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,399
Speaker 2: much of the other stuff to be good in that game,

1203
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 2: Like you needed what Seattle probably had what three or

1204
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 2: four notable drop in that game.

1205
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 5: You know, the like.

1206
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 2: Penalties were in your favor again. You know, one of

1207
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 2: the kind of sneaky plays was that false start on

1208
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 2: fourth and one ended up being good for the Colts

1209
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 2: because it allowed for them not to get stuffed there

1210
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 2: on three step and once they got lift right, Yeah

1211
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 2: to Taylor obviously group he kicked the hell out of it.

1212
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 2: So that would be my question now, is what can

1213
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,280
Speaker 2: be different from this passing offense with Philip Rivers.

1214
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 4: Charles says watching Rivers play was like that Seinfeld episode

1215
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 4: with the old guy thinking could still lift heavy and

1216
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:32,439
Speaker 4: telling Jerry it's gone time.

1217
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 5: You remember that one Mark right, it's.

1218
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,240
Speaker 8: Gold time, Mandelbao, Mandelbao.

1219
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 4: That did not end well. Charles said, uh, true enough

1220
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 4: that you know who you know who inserted himself in

1221
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 4: the middle of it.

1222
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 5: Tom Brady says he could still play at forty eight.

1223
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 2: They won't call him up.

1224
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 5: They won't.

1225
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 4: They won't let him because he's now a minority owner

1226
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,879
Speaker 4: with the Raiders and so he can't un retire now.

1227
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 4: But he said, yeah, I could certainly get back in

1228
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 4: there and get a drive going.

1229
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 2: I was very nervous for that hail Mary attempt at

1230
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 2: the end, rightfully. So we had a listener chime in

1231
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 2: last week and said that in watching the videos that

1232
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:13,240
Speaker 2: I was taken out of practice of Rivers throwing. He referenced,

1233
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 2: it looks like Rivers needs a cut off man. That's

1234
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 2: a great line. If they had gotten to hail Mary range,

1235
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 2: what do you think they would have done? Do you

1236
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 2: think they put in Leonard or I guess ripping can

1237
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 2: only go in if Leonard was hurt, so it would

1238
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 2: have had to have been Leonard. You had to have

1239
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 2: if you were a warn throw the hail Mary.

1240
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, what's rip?

1241
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 2: What is Leonard's arm strength? I don't think it's anything

1242
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 2: to write home about, but I think you can get

1243
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 2: the ball sixty years starting quarterbacks?

1244
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 8: Yeah, could they have sent Blue out there? Could Blue

1245
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 8: have made the trip and done it?

1246
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 2: Put him up there on the second on the fourth deck. Yeah,

1247
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 2: of Luman Stadium to home. It's an allegiant toss down there.

1248
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,439
Speaker 2: Just aim for the true accuracy. But that is so good.

1249
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:53,720
Speaker 5: Aim for the trash.

1250
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 4: Can you have a good shape? Uh? Mark one quick

1251
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 4: thing before we head to the top of the hour. Uh.

1252
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 4: Eric and Carmel says Nirvana. Muse great rock bumper choices

1253
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 4: all day long.

1254
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 8: Lots of Seattle inspiration if you if you get what's

1255
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 8: going on.

1256
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 2: I did get well, by the way, shout out to

1257
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 2: Blake groupie. I mean that kicking performance outdoors. You're on

1258
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 2: your second team forty two fifty four sixty. I feel

1259
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 2: like they're all down the middle. They all have got

1260
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 2: distance to spare. That dude. I'll never forget a few

1261
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 2: weeks back in his first practice day kicking indoors, he

1262
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 2: goes seven for seven, and the amount of swagger that

1263
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 2: man had after the kicking session, it was like, I

1264
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 2: bleep and own this indoor facility. Like, dude, you're you're

1265
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 2: the third string kicker. You're the third kicker that they've had.

1266
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 2: This looked like it yesterday. Oh my gosh. He was

1267
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 2: strutting in everything around that field. How both kickers? I

1268
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 2: just hand those kicker Special Teams Player of the Weeks

1269
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 2: to both of them yesterday, although I do think that

1270
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 2: final kickoff should have been squibbed.

1271
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 4: All right, we'll have more from the text line and

1272
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 4: you can call us up and let us know your

1273
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 4: thoughts as well. Two through nine, it's Kevin bow and

1274
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 4: Jeff Rick or James Boyd on his way back from Seattle.

1275
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 4: It's the Fan Morning Show at ninety three five and

1276
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 4: one on seven five make.

1277
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 5: Up the season.

1278
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 1: Ball on the right, Hash Sanchez to put it down, Stamp.

1279
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: There's the placement and the kick clears the line heading

1280
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: down field for the upright.

1281
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 3: Senate is good.

1282
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 5: Two by two formation for Rivers.

1283
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,439
Speaker 1: Looking over that defense full on the plate block takes

1284
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: a step three step drop, looking rows inside the five.

1285
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 2: Touchdown for the Colts and it's just downs across the

1286
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 2: goal line.

1287
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: Jason Myers has been heavily used today. This is his

1288
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: fourth attempt.

1289
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 3: Is a thirty two.

1290
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 4: Yard field goal.

1291
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,959
Speaker 1: Kick is up and headed for the uprights, and it's good.

1292
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: The Colts trail by two and Blake Groupie is on

1293
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: for a sixty yard field goal, this one from sixty

1294
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: as Rigaberto Sanchez is prepared.

1295
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 2: Let's see if John.

1296
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: And mister Groupie in his third year can knock down

1297
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: a huge field goal. Stap placement here all the way

1298
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 1: headed downfield for the upright, spits gone lot. It's good

1299
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: from sixty, Blake Proovey, so this is gonna be a

1300
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 1: fifty six yard field goal. Myers step gets into it,

1301
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:26,439
Speaker 1: sends it downfield, head a pretty upright and said it's good.

1302
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 6: As the game just got going, I was just thankful,

1303
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 6: grateful that I was out there and it was a blast.

1304
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 6: It was a blast. But obviously the emotion is now

1305
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 6: are disappointment and disappointment. You know, I'm this isn't about me.

1306
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 6: You know, we were on a team that was scrapping

1307
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 6: like crazy, just trying to stay alive and get in

1308
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 6: a postseason.

1309
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 3: So obviously we're all disappointed.

1310
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 6: Came up just short.

1311
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 4: It's two minute drive.

1312
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 7: They hit, they hit the plays, they hit place there

1313
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 7: at the end to get him in field goal range.

1314
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 7: That was am out of line.

1315
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 4: You know.

1316
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 7: We had some run zone, we had some blitzes up,

1317
00:59:58,040 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 7: you know, and they needed to come whatever they needed

1318
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 7: to yards to get into range, and they got it done.

1319
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 6: Thing.

1320
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 7: Obviously, he's disappointing any time you lose, but we're guaranteed

1321
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 7: three left and had a chance to win one today.

1322
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 7: But now we got another opportunity to go do it

1323
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 7: again on Monday night against San Francisco, and we're excited

1324
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 7: for that challenge.

1325
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 4: There you go, Shane Steichen, Philip Rivers looks like they

1326
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 4: may team up again for a Monday night game against

1327
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 4: the San Francisco forty nine ers. Colts lose eighteen sixteen

1328
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 4: and inspirational for all the right reasons. Forty four year

1329
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 4: old guy been retired for five years, gets a phone

1330
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 4: call team in desperation. He can help him out, understands

1331
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 4: the offense. Good friends with the head coach, They're on

1332
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 4: the same page. He gave them a chance. Everything went

1333
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 4: as well as it could go for the Colts in

1334
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 4: my opinion, to give them the chance right up until

1335
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 4: the very end when it didn't. But it is certainly

1336
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 4: in my view. Kevin Bowen averaging four point four yards

1337
01:00:54,280 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 4: per pass attempt, no mobility whatsoever. Great story, good man,

1338
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 4: Happy for him, glad I guess that he got the opportunity.

1339
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 4: But you're not going to get yourself back into the

1340
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 4: playoffs with Philip Rivers as the quarterback of the Indianapolis Colts.

1341
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 2: Well, let's stretch it a little bit even further than that, Jeff.

1342
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 2: You know, there is part of me that just looks

1343
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 2: at yesterday afternoon thinks to myself, like, what an effort

1344
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 2: by the Colts. They're on their third string quarterback or

1345
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 2: everyone in label rivers they were down to their third

1346
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 2: and fourth string offensive tackles. I can't recall the last

1347
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 2: time they've been down. We've seen, you know, like the Chargers,

1348
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 2: for example, have been dealing with that for a long

1349
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 2: portion of the season, but I don't remember the Colts

1350
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 2: being down to that in quite a while. Defensively, you

1351
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 2: were without what your three best defensive players, certainly three

1352
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 2: of your best, if not your best, and into Forest

1353
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 2: Buckner and Javerius Hoardensace Gartner, and you went out to

1354
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 2: one of the more hostile environments in the NFL against

1355
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 2: a team that I think a lot of people view

1356
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 2: as one of the best in the NFL, and you

1357
01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 2: lost by two. Like, there is so much of that

1358
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 2: that you want to sit there and be like, man,

1359
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 2: great effort, hell of a job, that's really really respectable

1360
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 2: and commendable and all of that. And I think all

1361
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 2: of that is probably true. It's just, in my opinion,

1362
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 2: borderline impossible to celebrate it when now you've lost five

1363
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 2: or six, and you've lost four in a row, and

1364
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 2: the Jacksonville and the Houston games went the way that

1365
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 2: it did. Kansas City's won what one game in the

1366
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 2: last month and a half two months, and it's you

1367
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 2: and blowing that multi score lead in arrowhead like if one,

1368
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 2: certainly if two, but if even one of those games

1369
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 2: that just mentioned or Pittsburgh, you know, if one of

1370
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 2: those games goes the other way, you can maybe talk

1371
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 2: about this game right here yesterday differently, you could react

1372
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 2: to it in a little bit more of a Hey man,

1373
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 2: there's a game like this for every team in the

1374
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 2: NFL each year when you're decimated like no other injury

1375
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 2: report wise, do you rise to the occasion? You know,

1376
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 2: to do guys step up? You know, do you have

1377
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 2: a chance to win? But just given the playoff standings,

1378
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 2: you just can't here sit here and offer a ton of.

1379
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 6: To it.

1380
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 2: It's just difficult. And you know, here you are at

1381
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 2: eight and six and gonna need to win multiple games

1382
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 2: in the last three weeks, and you obviously have injury

1383
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 2: questions continuing. You have offensive questions to your point that

1384
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 2: we can get into. But yeah, I mean, living in

1385
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 2: the sixty minute world, there's a lot, a lot that

1386
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 2: the Colts had a great effort yesterday, but given the

1387
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 2: nature of where the season is sinking and trending, it's

1388
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 2: hard to really acknowledge any of it.

1389
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 4: I will say I allowed myself to put myself into

1390
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 4: the moment yesterday, and Kevin, I'm not gonna lie to you,

1391
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 4: there was an elee of me when they were staying

1392
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 4: in the football game and he was doing just enough

1393
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 4: to keep him in the football game. And then when

1394
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 4: they took that lead at sixteen fifteen, there was a

1395
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 4: part of me like, this is fun. I tweeted it out,

1396
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 4: this is fun. I was actually having fun for a

1397
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 4: while yesterday. And I can again two things can be true.

1398
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 4: You can get lost in the moment, you can get

1399
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:08,959
Speaker 4: lost in the story. You can root for Philip Rivers,

1400
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 4: you can root for the story. You can appreciate all

1401
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 4: the things that are going on. But at the end

1402
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 4: of the day, when you put it in context as

1403
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 4: you just did Kevin, and then you also look at

1404
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 4: what's to come in.

1405
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 5: The next few weeks.

1406
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 4: I don't know how it's sustainable. I don't know how

1407
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 4: you keep it going and think to yourself, honestly, this

1408
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 4: gives us the best chance. I don't know how you

1409
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 4: get to that conclusion unless they know something about Riley

1410
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 4: Leonard that I don't know, unless they just decided a

1411
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 4: long time ago, like we can't win with Riley.

1412
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 2: You know, a big debate we had last week, Jeff,

1413
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 2: was you know, are we just splitting hairs and debating

1414
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 2: Philip Rivers, Riley Leonard or Brett Rippin? You know, those

1415
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 2: were kind of the three names. Sam Ellinger, right, he

1416
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 2: was the other name that we kind of talked about.

1417
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 2: You know, would the end result largely look the same, Well,

1418
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 2: the Colt score yesterday sixteen, you know, sixteen points, you know,

1419
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 2: not the most expulsive offense by any means, And maybe

1420
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 2: like the eating to sixteen points would look differently with

1421
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 2: some of those guys. You know, maybe with some of

1422
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 2: the others, you have a few more turnovers that puts

1423
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 2: your defense into, you know, difficult situations. Maybe you do

1424
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 2: create a few more big plays from it. So I

1425
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 2: do think we are probably in the we're just splitting

1426
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 2: hairs at the end of the day, given the fact

1427
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 2: that Lennard was a full participant in practice though the

1428
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 2: threat that he does bring with his legs, and this

1429
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 2: is coming from a guy that you're.

1430
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 4: Not the biggest fan.

1431
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 2: No, I'm not definitely the biggest rather than Leonard fan

1432
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 2: by any means, but I do think he would have

1433
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 2: offered your offense a little bit more potency. Now, again,

1434
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 2: maybe as a rookie quarterback in that environment he's turning

1435
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 2: the ball over a time or two, but he'd I'll

1436
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 2: go back to what we discussed last segment. Those offensive numbers,

1437
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 2: Jeff four point four yards per past attempt, three point

1438
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 2: seven yards per play. Those are just not NFL sustainable

1439
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 2: at all. It's archaic. It's dinosaur. I don't know how

1440
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 2: else to better describe bit. But that's exactly what it

1441
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:06,959
Speaker 2: is for you and really the only good, which you know, again,

1442
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 2: it does worth mentioned, or I think it's worth mentioning.

1443
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 2: You didn't turn the ball over, and I do think

1444
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 2: that was key in just allowing your defense to hang

1445
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 2: in there and all of that you were able to

1446
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 2: control field position. I think the Colts had like a

1447
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 2: fifteen yard advantage and average drive start, which was really

1448
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 2: big for them, so again, Rivers, that part of the

1449
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 2: operation is there, but I mean the offense is just yeah,

1450
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 2: it's just boring as hell.

1451
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 4: And it's clear that the offense is essentially designed to

1452
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 4: get a first down. That's it, Like I just need

1453
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 4: and they you know, they had fourteen first down, so.

1454
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 2: The offensive design to go, run, run, run, get it

1455
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 2: to third and four and pray and hope the third

1456
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 2: and four exactly.

1457
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 4: My point is to just get to the sticks, make it,

1458
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 4: keep it going, keep it going. They only had two

1459
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty fifteen yards of total offense yesterday. Think

1460
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 4: about that, Kevin, You're not gonna win very many games

1461
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 4: in the National FOOTBA League when you get two hundred

1462
01:06:57,560 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 4: and fifteen yards of total offense.

1463
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 2: That's got to be one of the host in a while.

1464
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 2: Is that a season low?

1465
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 4: Do you know? I'll have to go back and look

1466
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 4: at it, but it's I can't imagine things being much

1467
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 4: lower than that. But like I said, two things can

1468
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 4: be true, and that's kind of been my theme today.

1469
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 4: Feel good about the story, Feel good about Philip Rivers.

1470
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 4: This can't continue to have. Yeah, I think you've just

1471
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 4: can't continue to have I think you've done.

1472
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 2: A nice job, and you know, isolating the two I've

1473
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 2: you know, said all morning long. You know, Philip Rivers

1474
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 2: is a Disney Plus movie. It's a fun thing to

1475
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 2: watch on a Friday night in this weather. But right

1476
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 2: now for a Sunday afternoon NFL football game, what and again,

1477
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 2: there might not be any good answers. To be clear,

1478
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 2: there probably isn't any good answers. But if I had

1479
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 2: to pick and choose moving forward, uh, you know, fully

1480
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 2: approaching a because I think Rivers also Stemy's your run game,

1481
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 2: the fact that he is such a statue back there

1482
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 2: and there's no element of him you know, running you

1483
01:07:56,840 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 2: know whatever, RPOs and and that sort of aspect. You know,

1484
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor had twenty five carries yesterday and what he

1485
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 2: had one double digit yard carry? Twenty five or what

1486
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 2: like eighty something. I mean, you know that is obviously

1487
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 2: a really really low number. So I think it also

1488
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 2: hurts you in that aspect of it, not just the

1489
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 2: can you throw it north of ten yards?

1490
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:21,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so much that goes back to the Seahawks.

1491
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 4: Know that Jonathan Taylor, Ay, everybody knows he's your biggest

1492
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:28,599
Speaker 4: weapon anyway. But now when you've got a quarterback who's

1493
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:30,720
Speaker 4: not going to scare you downfield, who's not.

1494
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 5: Going to run a lot.

1495
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 4: Easier to keep guys up closer to Jonathan Taylor and

1496
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 4: make sure that he doesn't get loose for anything longer

1497
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 4: than an eleven yard touch or eleven yard run. He

1498
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 4: did catch the touchdown pass. But when you look at

1499
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 4: the longest plays of the day, Downs, right, Yeah, Taylor

1500
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 4: had eleven on one carry. Josh Downs had an eight

1501
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 4: yard was his longest reception. Pierce was the longest that

1502
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 4: That was a nice catch by him too. Did you

1503
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:00,599
Speaker 4: see that catch by Bears.

1504
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1505
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 2: Again, I just feel like you've got a Pepper Pierce

1506
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 2: with targets. I don't even he'll make catches right, even

1507
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 2: I think he has proven to, Like I want to

1508
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 2: see more of that back shoulder stuff. I mean, obviously

1509
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 2: Rivers is not going to chuck it even like Flacco

1510
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 2: did down the field. But I just think Pierce is

1511
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 2: a contested catch guy. He at least is competitive in it.

1512
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 2: And I know that sounds really elementary to say, but Jeff,

1513
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 2: there was a ball that Darnald threw to Rashid Shaheed

1514
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 2: down the sideline that Shaheed wanted a pass interference penalty

1515
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 2: and they didn't throw it. If he would have been

1516
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 2: more competitive and attempting to catch the ball, I think

1517
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 2: that might have forced the ref's hand a little bit.

1518
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:43,640
Speaker 2: I think it was Mikai Blackman in coverage. Pearce is

1519
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 2: always doing a great job of trying to make the catch,

1520
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 2: and I think it aids him in some of those

1521
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 2: fifty to fifty calls of like, hey, should I pull

1522
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 2: out the flag or should I not? So to me,

1523
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 2: Pierce and I tweeted out the snap coounts earlier.

1524
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 4: Today.

1525
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 2: He played every single offensive snap. Technically, the passing for

1526
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 2: penalty does not count as a target because it wasn't

1527
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 2: a play it it was a penalty. He had one target,

1528
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 2: Like he just needs more targets.

1529
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:13,719
Speaker 4: I'm just counting down. There were there were six colts

1530
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 4: that caught passes yesterday. Abdula had five.

1531
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 5: I thought he played pretty well yesterday.

1532
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 2: By the way, Yeah, I got some naim Heines twenty

1533
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 2: twenty vibes again. Hines led the team in catches with Rivers.

1534
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 2: I got some nim Heines vibes from him.

1535
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 4: He had five catches. Pittman had three, Warren had three,

1536
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 4: Pierce had just the one we talked about. Jonathan Taylor

1537
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 4: had three, one of them getting close to the end

1538
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 4: zone there, and then Josh Downs had the touchdown reception.

1539
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 4: I think I said earlier Taylor did, but it was Downs.

1540
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:45,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I went back to two thousand. That's the

1541
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 2: fourth fewest yards in a game for the Colts. So

1542
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 2: in the last five years, twenty twenty two season with

1543
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 2: Matt Ryan, I think some of these starts might have

1544
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:56,679
Speaker 2: been with Ellinger. He had a couple of those games

1545
01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:00,640
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. I assume that was Richardson, maybe it

1546
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 2: was Minshew, but yeah, two fifteen is just again a

1547
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:06,959
Speaker 2: very very small number.

1548
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:09,599
Speaker 4: Two nine ten seventy number to text in or calling

1549
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 4: if you'd like to. Cody writes, and I'm way past

1550
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 4: over this leadership, but curious what your thoughts are in

1551
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,639
Speaker 4: the combo, what it would be if they win after

1552
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 4: the sixty yard or are we still negative because of

1553
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:22,599
Speaker 4: how old and slow Pill looked. Are we saying man

1554
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 4: Sauce and Buckner still coming back?

1555
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 5: Let's go? Lol?

1556
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 4: There is an element to when you win a game. Okay,

1557
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 4: now we can build on that, but even if you

1558
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 4: win that game, what is markedly going to get better

1559
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 4: from the quarterback position in terms of getting the ball

1560
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 4: down field and not just being a very one dimensional

1561
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 4: football team.

1562
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 2: Well, Jeff, I think this is where you have two

1563
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 2: sides to the where the twenty twenty five coin is

1564
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 2: right now for the Colts. And you know, last week

1565
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 2: we got into a little bit of this topic, but basically,

1566
01:11:55,080 --> 01:12:01,560
Speaker 2: you have a win loss record playoff standings side of

1567
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 2: the coin. That obviously is what people care about. Okay,

1568
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, did you make the

1569
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 2: playoffs or did you not? So what's your record? What

1570
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 2: are the playoff chances? What wins do you need? You

1571
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:14,600
Speaker 2: know are the what are the tie breakers? So a

1572
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 2: win And this is kind of what I've been getting

1573
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 2: at all morning long. That is the bottom line right now,

1574
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 2: when you've lost five of six, when you've lost four straight,

1575
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 2: when you have one win since Halloween, when you've already

1576
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 2: lost to Houston and Jacksonville in the division, you need

1577
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 2: wins point blank, period. But I also can sit here

1578
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 2: and acknowledge what the cults are trying to attempt right

1579
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 2: now is largely a gimmick. I mean, that's what the

1580
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 2: reality is of their situation. You know, I think when

1581
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 2: we had Stephen Holder on last Wednesday, I said to Stephen,

1582
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:51,959
Speaker 2: should the final four games of this season likely quarterback

1583
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:59,639
Speaker 2: by Philip Rivers have any sort of evaluation measure if

1584
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 2: you will unchained psyching or Chris Ballard.

1585
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 4: I guess if he comes in and he gives you

1586
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 4: enough to get into the postseason, you pat him on

1587
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 4: the back for having in, you know, being ingenius and

1588
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 4: coming up with a solution to your quarterback problem in

1589
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:13,760
Speaker 4: the short term, right.

1590
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 2: Right, But like it's kind of la la land, Like

1591
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 2: this is this is not NFL reality. I mean, it

1592
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 2: is for the Colts in the small sample size, but like,

1593
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:25,760
Speaker 2: this isn't your reality next year. This is not like

1594
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 2: there's no stain power, I guess, is what I'm saying

1595
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:30,640
Speaker 2: to this. This is not something of like, oh no,

1596
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 2: we can build off this, you know. No, he's a

1597
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:34,680
Speaker 2: forty four year old quarterback, as you.

1598
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 5: Patched a hole in a very ingenious way, right, which

1599
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 5: you know.

1600
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 2: Part of the NFL season I guess can be like

1601
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 2: that to a degree. But it just seems like for Ballard. Okay,

1602
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:48,680
Speaker 2: let's talk about Ballard. We are approaching the end of

1603
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 2: the end of his ninth year. Should the final four

1604
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 2: games the end of nine years really be the deciding

1605
01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 2: factor in a resume that has what one hundred other

1606
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 2: games of evidence?

1607
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's how you got to those four games, right, well.

1608
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 2: Right, what I'm saying is eight years and thirteen games

1609
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 2: to me out weighs four.

1610
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1611
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 2: And for Shane stike him, you know, you have obviously

1612
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 2: a lot less of a sample size, But for stike In,

1613
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 2: it's what three years and three fourths of a season

1614
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 2: should outweigh the final four weeks. And you know, maybe

1615
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 2: the season would have returned around, but the ship was

1616
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 2: already sinking before you know. Daniel Jones is Achilles pop there.

1617
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 2: So yeah, the whole dissecting of like this Philip Rivers

1618
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:40,040
Speaker 2: end of the twenty twenty five season is just like,

1619
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 2: are we going to get at the year, And like

1620
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 2: it's Carli Rosa Gordon gonna say, hey, I felt like

1621
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 2: we gave great effort as the injuries piled up and

1622
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 2: we started really well, and I'm gonna choose to go

1623
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 2: off of that and I'm gonna run it back.

1624
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 4: Let's go talk to Roger next on the fan line.

1625
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 2: Oh he just dropped out.

1626
01:14:57,280 --> 01:15:00,040
Speaker 5: Oh we lost Roger guys, We'll get to you a

1627
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:00,639
Speaker 5: little bit patient.

1628
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 4: I promise we will get to you when you call

1629
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:04,599
Speaker 4: in two, three, nine, ten seventy you want to call back,

1630
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:07,519
Speaker 4: and we'll get you all on right there. Ryan from

1631
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 4: Pendleton says Jeff KB. I think what we saw from

1632
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 4: Rivers was an intelligence level that kept the game close.

1633
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 4: He made some great adjustments at the line that Riley

1634
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 4: Leonard may not have seen. This managed the mistakes and

1635
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 4: kept the game within range. What I'm hoping for next

1636
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 4: week is a little more creativity from Stike in and

1637
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 4: Rivers with the use of weapons, for example, downs Pierce Warren.

1638
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 4: There were some usage, but wasn't a lot of quick

1639
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 4: play action underneath. Usage with Pierce or downs only on

1640
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 4: the touchdown just wasn't used enough. And I don't know

1641
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 4: it's because to me it seems like Rivers himself and

1642
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 4: Shane Stike and they don't trust his arm right now.

1643
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 5: You can't trust his arm right now.

1644
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:46,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how much more creative you can be.

1645
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 5: We're you going to do with it?

1646
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 2: And I guess he could try to just double move

1647
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 2: teams to death and hope that the Rivers, you know,

1648
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 2: ball the downs is something that can get there. But

1649
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:57,799
Speaker 2: I think you're playing a fire when you attempt anything

1650
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 2: down the field. So much of it just comes down

1651
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 2: to I feel like the defense gave a great, great

1652
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 2: effort down several starters as well. But man, that final drive,

1653
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 2: and to me, it started with the with with the

1654
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 2: lack of a squipkick. Like to me for a groupie there,

1655
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:16,560
Speaker 2: you just got to squid it down the middle. You

1656
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 2: got to eat clock. Your your covered union has been

1657
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 2: great all year long. Rely on them to make a play,

1658
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:24,600
Speaker 2: you know, in the middle of the field. Hopefully that

1659
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 2: eats up clock. And then you know, if you're able

1660
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 2: to make one legit tackle in the middle of the

1661
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 2: field on a ball, that's you know, even again, if

1662
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 2: you give up eight or nine yards on a completion

1663
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 2: on that last drive, that that very well could be enough.

1664
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:41,840
Speaker 2: If you allow two eight yard completions and you tackle them,

1665
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:44,639
Speaker 2: you just forced Darnold to check it down, you probably

1666
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 2: win the game.

1667
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:48,719
Speaker 4: Jeff, Let's try you next two, nine, ten, seventy. Welcome

1668
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:49,599
Speaker 4: into the Fan Morning Show.

1669
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 5: What's on your mind? My man?

1670
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 10: Well, I'd like to say, respond to mister Bowen, Surely

1671
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 10: the last War Games can either be an exclamation point

1672
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 10: or a nail in the coffin for either Stiking or

1673
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:04,799
Speaker 10: mister Ballard. But I agree with you concerning the defense

1674
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:09,160
Speaker 10: Mifflin at best when it comes to the secondary and

1675
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 10: the linebackers need to be replaced if we're going to

1676
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 10: be in the Ana Rumo's type of defense next year.

1677
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 3: That's all I got.

1678
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 5: Thank you, thanks very much, thoughts.

1679
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you Jeff for the call. I guess yeah,

1680
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 2: I probably should have been clear on the whole, like

1681
01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:24,679
Speaker 2: Ballard stikeing thing, Like like I thought Ballorship been gone

1682
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 2: after last season. It's like, do I really need to

1683
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:30,559
Speaker 2: see You've been pretty clear off the final three games?

1684
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:35,599
Speaker 2: Haven't we seen enough? I guess what. That's where I'm at.

1685
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 2: To me, it's a bottom line business. And if this

1686
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 2: season indeed continues to go down this pathway, I mean,

1687
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 2: you're looking at eleven years without a division title. You're

1688
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 2: looking at, you know again, a five year playoff drout,

1689
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 2: which is one of the longest in the NFL. It's

1690
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 2: one of the longest this franchisees had in thirty plus years.

1691
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:54,720
Speaker 2: Like that to me tells enough of the story. Like

1692
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 2: I don't need to dissect the Philip if we really

1693
01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 2: want to nitpick. You know, when Daniel Jones practice fibula,

1694
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 2: should they have explored a backup option a little bit better? Sure,

1695
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 2: but I think that's a little bit of nitpicking post

1696
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 2: trade deadline exactly what that could look like.

1697
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 4: All right, let's go to the phones one more time

1698
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:15,240
Speaker 4: before we got ahead to the checkdown. John, your turn

1699
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:17,719
Speaker 4: here on the Fan morning show. What did you see yesterday?

1700
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:20,760
Speaker 3: Well, I heard the rally Leonard rap I think he

1701
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 3: had a bad knee and that's the reason he didn't play.

1702
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 3: He was injured. That's what I heard.

1703
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 2: Kevin practice fully all three days last week. My experience

1704
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:33,639
Speaker 2: in the NFL, if you're practicing fully for three straight days,

1705
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 2: you're healthy. I didn't notice anything knee brace, wrap sleeve

1706
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 2: on him at all at practice, So again we're probably

1707
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 2: splitting hairs. But I think Leonard with a little bit

1708
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 2: of a leg element and the ability to throw the

1709
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:48,840
Speaker 2: ball down the field a little bit. I mean, hell,

1710
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:51,640
Speaker 2: in three quarters in Jacksonville, he produced pretty much the

1711
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 2: same amount of offense that without any practice time all

1712
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:56,639
Speaker 2: week long. So if I had to pick or shoes,

1713
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 2: I would pick Leonard right now.

1714
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 4: All right, that's just me more text more. Our phone

1715
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 4: calls coming up in a minute two, three, nine, ten,

1716
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 4: seventy for both. In the meantime, let's check it down,

1717
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 4: all right, We're to go quickly. Seahawks eighteen, Colts sixteen.

1718
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 4: Jason Meyer HiT's a fifty six yard field goal late

1719
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter. He has sixth of the day

1720
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 4: to beat Philip Rivers and the Colts. Rivers was eighteen

1721
01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 4: to twenty seven for one hundred and twenty yards, one touchdown,

1722
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 4: one interception at the very end trying to get him

1723
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 4: into the field goal position one more time. All in all,

1724
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:31,720
Speaker 4: kind of dated Philip Rivers have.

1725
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:34,800
Speaker 2: Are we greating them off the couch or greating them

1726
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 2: like an NFL quarterbacks? Both off the couch and a

1727
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 2: plus plus plus plus. It's the hell of the story.

1728
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 2: It's a it's a freaking movie. If we're great him

1729
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 2: for an NFL quarterback and literally acting like he is

1730
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 2: practiced with his team all year long and all that,

1731
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 2: you give him what a D plus? I mean, it's

1732
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 2: two totally different evaluation points.

1733
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 5: Two hundred and fourteen yards of total offense for that

1734
01:19:57,080 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 5: team yesterday. I just want to point that out.

1735
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 2: The story is incredible. The NFL experience of him starting

1736
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 2: as a quarterback. If you're going to accurately grade it,

1737
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 2: it was an awful day for the offense all right.

1738
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:10,519
Speaker 4: Elsewhere in the NFL yesterday, as the Colts dropped to

1739
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:12,479
Speaker 4: eight and six, Jacksonville gets a win.

1740
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:13,599
Speaker 5: They beat the Jets forty eight.

1741
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 4: Twenty day now are in control of the AFC South

1742
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 4: at ten and four, and the Houston Texans also got

1743
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 4: to win. They are now nine and five after beating

1744
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 4: the Arizona Cardinals forty to twenty. Right now, the Cults

1745
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 4: are on the eighth spot, one spot out looking in.

1746
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 4: They'll have to win at least three games. Kevin, I

1747
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 4: hope that they get a little help here with three.

1748
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:33,680
Speaker 4: They could get in with two, it really do.

1749
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:36,519
Speaker 2: But you really need to beat Jacksonville in Houston, honestly

1750
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 2: to end the season the divisional games, and you're gonna

1751
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 2: need and Mark rattle off Houston and Jacksonville schedule. Houston

1752
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 2: has Raiders, Chargers and then the Colts down there in Houston.

1753
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:51,439
Speaker 2: So again it's a uphill climb, but it is still,

1754
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 2: you know, doable on paper.

1755
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 4: Bills keep their AFC East hopes alive by beating the

1756
01:20:57,240 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 4: Patriots at Foxborough thirty five thirty one, and Mark are

1757
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 4: the Bears for real at ten and four with a

1758
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 4: beat down of the Browns.

1759
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 5: Thirty one to three.

1760
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 2: They're real, baby, man, oh man.

1761
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:10,920
Speaker 4: They are in first place in the NFC North.

1762
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:13,600
Speaker 8: Caleb Williams threw a couple of balls that I'm just like,

1763
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 8: I don't even understand how that even possibly got to

1764
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 8: DJ Moore yesterday in the end zone.

1765
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 2: You got excited. You're saying, oh, I would pull the JMV.

1766
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:22,920
Speaker 5: You have to be happy with the we have the

1767
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:23,599
Speaker 5: room kids.

1768
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 4: They beat the Packers yesterday, so the Packers lost yesterday too.

1769
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 8: Some more glorious than that?

1770
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:31,559
Speaker 2: Could the Bears be the one seed in the NFC Mark.

1771
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 8: They have to leapfrog the Rams, but I mean.

1772
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 2: The Ram Seahawks Thursday night, so that will eliminate, not eliminated,

1773
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 2: but that would obviously put one of them down the rum.

1774
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, but then I think that they're both eleven right now, right,

1775
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:46,919
Speaker 8: so they would jump.

1776
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 2: What are the Bears ten and four? Ten and four?

1777
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think so they would just basically swap places

1778
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 8: off the Seahawks win, They're just swapping they're jumping to first.

1779
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 2: Then by the way, there they.

1780
01:21:57,160 --> 01:21:59,680
Speaker 4: Go, and that Packers may get some bad news today too.

1781
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 4: The fear is that Micah Parsons, who came over from

1782
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:04,760
Speaker 4: the Cowboys at the beginning of the year tour an

1783
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 4: acl mark. I don't know if you were watching the game,

1784
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:09,680
Speaker 4: but it was non contact and it just looked like

1785
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:10,639
Speaker 4: something bad happened.

1786
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:11,800
Speaker 2: I was watching that game live.

1787
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:13,280
Speaker 8: As soon as it happened, I said, that does not

1788
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:16,519
Speaker 8: look good and I we just saw Patrick Mahomes, although

1789
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:19,840
Speaker 8: that was a contact injury, Mike a non contact injury,

1790
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 8: and he felt, like they always say, it looks like

1791
01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:23,800
Speaker 8: he got shot in the back of the leg. That's

1792
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:27,120
Speaker 8: this guy exactly what looked like what happened, Kevin, He

1793
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:28,639
Speaker 8: mentioned Patrick Mahomes.

1794
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 4: The Chiefs lose to the Chargers at home sixteen thirteen.

1795
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 4: They are eliminated from playoff contention. But more importantly, Patrick

1796
01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 4: Mahomes leaves the game limping, and it's confirmed that he

1797
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 4: has a torn acel.

1798
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty crazy. I mean, obviously, no Burrow, no

1799
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 2: Mahomes in the playoffs. Here we'll see about Lamar Jackson.

1800
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 2: And by the way, how about Buffalo coming back to

1801
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:49,040
Speaker 2: beat New England yesterday?

1802
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 4: They didn't, didn't They.

1803
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 5: Put up like four street touchdowns.

1804
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean New England is sitting pretty looking

1805
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:56,559
Speaker 2: like they're gonna be, you know, in that one seed

1806
01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 2: slot season sweep of the Bills, and then Josh Allen

1807
01:22:59,240 --> 01:22:59,800
Speaker 2: and company do.

1808
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 8: That they took that twenty one dozing lead. I'm like,

1809
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 8: I would never have guessed that this is what that

1810
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:06,160
Speaker 8: game was going to turn into. I was like, boy,

1811
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:08,599
Speaker 8: they're blowing their doors off and al asudden you blink like, oh,

1812
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 8: here comes Josh Allen, Here come the Bills.

1813
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't give Josh Allen a moment there, he'll he'll

1814
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 4: come and hurt you. Also, last night Sunday Night Football,

1815
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 4: JJ McCarthy looked good through for two hundred and fifty

1816
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:21,360
Speaker 4: yards and two touchdowns and the Vikings went on the

1817
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:23,760
Speaker 4: road against the Cowboys. The Vikings are only six and

1818
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 4: eight this year. But I don't know, do you watch

1819
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 4: any of that game? Mark, I know you were busy

1820
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 4: with wrestling last night. But JJ McCarthy looked like an

1821
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 4: NFL quarterback last night.

1822
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:33,639
Speaker 8: Yeah, he kind of jucklin hides himself through every Sunday

1823
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 8: and everything. But it was just a reminder that Jerry

1824
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 8: Jones and the Cowboys are frauds. They usually are, And

1825
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 8: right there is another example of that very no you

1826
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 8: get it together, Jerry.

1827
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 4: Mark's arguing with himself in the computer now. Also yesterday,

1828
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:51,240
Speaker 4: the Wizards, the second worst team in the NBA, got

1829
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:53,559
Speaker 4: their fourth win of the season at the field House

1830
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 4: in an afternoon game. They beat the Pacers one, eight

1831
01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 4: to eighty nine. Marvin Bagley the third had twenty three points,

1832
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:04,599
Speaker 4: fourteen rebounds. Just horrific shooting for the Pacers. You combine

1833
01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 4: their second and third quarters, they were two for eighteen

1834
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 4: from three point range during those twenty four minutes of play.

1835
01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:11,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a worst loss of the season,

1836
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 2: which is saying something for this team. And you go

1837
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:16,800
Speaker 2: back to Friday, Jeff that opportunity up five in the

1838
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 2: fourth quarter in Philly, No Tyrese Maxi, but Joel Embiid

1839
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 2: turned back to clock against the Pacers. So yeah, really

1840
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 2: really rough weekend there. And they will have some practice

1841
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 2: time earlier this week. They got the Knicks coming up

1842
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:28,799
Speaker 2: on Thursday.

1843
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 4: It's the Pacers Playback presented by CNJ Water, the official

1844
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:36,599
Speaker 4: water treatment part of the Indiana Pacers, cnjwater dot Com

1845
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 4: and as you mentioned they've got the Knicks coming up

1846
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 4: on Thursday. Also, congratulations again to Fernando Mendoza, Indiana's first

1847
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 4: ever winner of the Heisman Trophy, and Kevin As you

1848
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:49,600
Speaker 4: pointed out, it wasn't even close.

1849
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 2: Six hundred and forty three on the first place votes

1850
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 2: Diego Pavia one eighty nine, Jeremiah Love third in forty six.

1851
01:24:57,080 --> 01:24:59,439
Speaker 2: One thing to note two, The Heisman does this each year,

1852
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 2: They take a app of the country and spice it

1853
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 2: out into regions. Mendoza also won the South region, so

1854
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 2: the SEC region, if you will. He won that, so

1855
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 2: obviously the speech lived up to it. I think Maddie

1856
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:14,639
Speaker 2: Bone is still wiping away tears from Fernando Mendoz's speech there.

1857
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 2: And I thought it was really cool. Ralph Russo, longtime

1858
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:20,599
Speaker 2: college football writer, mentioned that in his twenty plus years

1859
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 2: covering the Heisman ceremony, he had not seen the amount

1860
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 2: of teammates that were there for Fernando Midos and we're

1861
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:28,800
Speaker 2: talk about guy who played Blomton for one year. So

1862
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:30,759
Speaker 2: I thought that was a really cool scene from several

1863
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 2: of his Indiana Hoosier teammates.

1864
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:36,280
Speaker 4: All right, more phone calls, more texts, more fallout from

1865
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 4: the Philip Rivers led defeat eighteen sixteen. He did what

1866
01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:43,320
Speaker 4: he could, but he could only do so much. And

1867
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 4: that was really the story is he could only do

1868
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:48,599
Speaker 4: so much. The Colts dropped their fifth and six games.

1869
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 4: They are now eight and six. We'll talk about it next.

1870
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 4: For my grandparents and other members of my family. With

1871
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 4: all my heart, I thank you so much. That was

1872
01:25:56,280 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 4: the Cuban descendant of Fernando mendo The.

1873
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:01,960
Speaker 2: Did you just translate that?

1874
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:04,960
Speaker 4: I did all I heard word, but generally.

1875
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 2: I heard Takeao taco bell was not a commercial with.

1876
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:11,040
Speaker 5: The little with the little Chihuahua guy. That was great.

1877
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:13,120
Speaker 8: If you start speaking like that, Christine's gonna be all

1878
01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:15,080
Speaker 8: over you. Who needs the heating bill?

1879
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 4: No requer lamas satanolsua m basala.

1880
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 2: I took four years of Spanish in high school, and

1881
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 2: I heard that. I was just like, boy, that sounded good.

1882
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:28,559
Speaker 5: Remind me to not speak Spanish around Mark anymore.

1883
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 4: I'm getting a little worried over there.

1884
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 2: You always worried around Mark.

1885
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 4: Sometimes this this might be the greatest. I was just

1886
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:38,679
Speaker 4: going to say, we're gonna through Roger in a second

1887
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 4: here on the phone. But I was going to say

1888
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:43,680
Speaker 4: to Mark, this might be the best development in all

1889
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:46,560
Speaker 4: of our relationships that we are now separated from you

1890
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 4: by a big pane of glass and a wall.

1891
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 8: Yeah, can you can you send it us some of

1892
01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 8: the heat over this way?

1893
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:54,599
Speaker 4: Well, there won't be any coming from this site, I'll

1894
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 4: tell you that.

1895
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 2: Well, some hot air this away.

1896
01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:59,639
Speaker 4: Little chili here this morning, but chili everywhere. I guess

1897
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 4: thedes were a mess last night, but I think they've

1898
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 4: gotten better.

1899
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 5: I didn't have any issues coming in, did you No?

1900
01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:06,639
Speaker 2: And I mean I drove downtown yesterday do some TV

1901
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 2: at about eleven am? And I think it was even

1902
01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 2: too bad due some TV last night. No big deal.

1903
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 5: Cold home, So the man does it does for a living.

1904
01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 8: Plus, maybe do one more sweep in my area that

1905
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 8: wouldn't be too bad. I'd appreciate it. But other than that,

1906
01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:22,599
Speaker 8: not too bad.

1907
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 4: All right, let's go to the phone lines now two

1908
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 4: through nine, ten seventy. Roger has been very patient today,

1909
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:29,400
Speaker 4: off and on. Roger, thanks for hanging with it, man.

1910
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 4: But now you are on the air, let us have it.

1911
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 3: Sure thing.

1912
01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 11: Two things one and I'll hang up and get your thoughts.

1913
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 11: How well does zire Franklin fit in this system. It

1914
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 11: doesn't seem like he can cover anybody in coverage. It

1915
01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:47,040
Speaker 11: seems like we need to address that ongoing. And then two,

1916
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 11: I really am starting to have an issue with Stike

1917
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:55,840
Speaker 11: and what seems like a serious pucker factor, because he's

1918
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 11: very aggressive until it's winning time, and then it seems

1919
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 11: like he gets very conservative. So I'm thinking yesterday as

1920
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 11: an example, why not go for it on fourth down

1921
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 11: when you've seen they've been moving the ball. If you

1922
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:10,559
Speaker 11: can get a first down and then kick a field

1923
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 11: goal there's no time left on the clock, that's a win.

1924
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 11: And as Kevin pointed out earlier, the only thing that

1925
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 11: matters right now are wins.

1926
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:20,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Roger, thank you for the call. I'm glad you

1927
01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:22,639
Speaker 2: brought this up, because, Jeff, we haven't really gotten into

1928
01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:26,559
Speaker 2: this debate there of you know what happened right before

1929
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 2: the Blake Groupie sixty yard field goal. As so far

1930
01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 2: as Zion Franklin is concerned, I fully expect you know

1931
01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 2: him to be back, assuming it's the same personnel. More

1932
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:38,080
Speaker 2: of just because like, who are you passing that torch to?

1933
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:42,679
Speaker 2: I mean I get that contractually, you know, the guaranteed

1934
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 2: money might not be there and all of that, but

1935
01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 2: you know, by no means do I think Franklin is

1936
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:51,400
Speaker 2: some you know, Pro Bowl level linebacker. But at the

1937
01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 2: same time it's more of a who else, which I

1938
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:56,400
Speaker 2: don't know if that's the most ringing endorsement, but lost

1939
01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 2: some thoughts there. Did you think they should have gone

1940
01:28:58,400 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 2: for it on the fourth down?

1941
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 4: I do, because everything that he just said, I think

1942
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:07,680
Speaker 4: your best chance and what did they have there? I

1943
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 4: want to say it was a fourth and three or

1944
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 4: fourth man three. It was fourth and three at the

1945
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:14,680
Speaker 4: Seattle forty two. I understand that you don't want to

1946
01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:16,800
Speaker 4: let them have a short field, but they ended up

1947
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:19,719
Speaker 4: getting a short field anyway after that disaster of a kickoff.

1948
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 4: But at fourth and three, that's still in the wheelhouse

1949
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 4: for Philip rivers fourth and three. If you're going to

1950
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 4: be creative and you've got to play somewhere that you know,

1951
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:32,080
Speaker 4: we always saved that play for a two point conversion

1952
01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 4: or something like that. There's always one or two plays.

1953
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 4: You're like, I know we can get three plays or

1954
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:38,760
Speaker 4: three yards, We're just going to save it for the

1955
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 4: right time. You're telling me we didn't have one of

1956
01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:41,599
Speaker 4: those plays.

1957
01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:44,560
Speaker 2: Yesterday, So Philip Rivers checked into a run there on

1958
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:47,200
Speaker 2: third and whatever that was seven.

1959
01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 5: Taylor goes up the middle for four yards.

1960
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 2: My thought before that play started was, if they get

1961
01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:54,720
Speaker 2: any positive yards here, I really think they'll kick it

1962
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:57,800
Speaker 2: with GROUPY. I think they believe, and clearly GROUPY showed it.

1963
01:29:57,880 --> 01:30:00,439
Speaker 2: I think they believe. Groupye's leg is a in that

1964
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 2: sixty ish range, So I thought any sort of positivity

1965
01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 2: there would have gotten them into at least a running

1966
01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 2: Groupie out there. My doubt on the whole fourth down.

1967
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:12,519
Speaker 2: I understand where you're coming from.

1968
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:12,680
Speaker 6: There.

1969
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 2: You can theoretically win the game or take off. The

1970
01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:19,200
Speaker 2: rest of the time, you're having to win multiple coin

1971
01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:22,080
Speaker 2: flips in that situation, you're having to like call fourth

1972
01:30:22,120 --> 01:30:24,400
Speaker 2: and three a coin flip. Okay, you have to win that.

1973
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:27,639
Speaker 2: Just because you get fourth and three, it doesn't mean

1974
01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:31,479
Speaker 2: you're a slam dunk to then make the field goal. Yes,

1975
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:33,360
Speaker 2: you would hope you get a few more yards after that,

1976
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:34,960
Speaker 2: but this offense was not moving it.

1977
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:36,240
Speaker 5: But you're also still.

1978
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:37,800
Speaker 4: Running the clock, and that was as much of the

1979
01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:39,840
Speaker 4: part of the equation for me as anything else too.

1980
01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:41,800
Speaker 2: Sure, but Group you still got to make what a

1981
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:44,400
Speaker 2: fifty two yarder then for the win or whatever that

1982
01:30:45,439 --> 01:30:47,720
Speaker 2: looks like. I think it's more of just you might

1983
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:50,640
Speaker 2: even get another first down after that, not with how

1984
01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:53,160
Speaker 2: this offense is moving the ball. Here's my offense. Takes

1985
01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:54,720
Speaker 2: about ten years for them to get a first time.

1986
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:57,200
Speaker 4: Yes, but going back to that, the Seahawks had scored

1987
01:30:57,280 --> 01:30:59,400
Speaker 4: on four of their five previous possessions.

1988
01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:00,799
Speaker 5: Dude, they'd been moving the football.

1989
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:03,519
Speaker 2: I think if you would have executed better, particularly with

1990
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:06,120
Speaker 2: the kickoff, I don't think we're talking enough about Blake

1991
01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:09,920
Speaker 2: Groupie's the inability to squib that kickoff. If you squib

1992
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:11,439
Speaker 2: that thing down in the middle, with how your kick

1993
01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:13,519
Speaker 2: covered you, and it has been all year long, you

1994
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:17,920
Speaker 2: are wasting probably seven seconds. You're tackling them, maybe at

1995
01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 2: the twenty eight something along those lines, and then now

1996
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:24,960
Speaker 2: you are making them probably have to get another completion

1997
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:28,160
Speaker 2: to get into whatever fifty two yard range whatever is

1998
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:32,600
Speaker 2: somewhat manageable for Jason Myers, and you just have to

1999
01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:36,439
Speaker 2: have to defend it better. So this question from Rogers one,

2000
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:39,600
Speaker 2: I got a lot. I get it. I just I

2001
01:31:39,680 --> 01:31:41,800
Speaker 2: didn't have that big of an issue with it. I

2002
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:44,200
Speaker 2: understand the sixty yard or is probably what I don't know,

2003
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:46,400
Speaker 2: a forty percent chance you make it, thirty five percent

2004
01:31:46,479 --> 01:31:48,559
Speaker 2: chance that you make it. I understand that odds aren't

2005
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:52,720
Speaker 2: particularly great in any of those cases, but I was

2006
01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:54,800
Speaker 2: content with that. You just got to defend it better.

2007
01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:55,880
Speaker 2: And it starts with the kickoff.

2008
01:31:57,880 --> 01:31:59,240
Speaker 4: There are a lot of things to go back and

2009
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 4: talk about for me today, but you're right, coming down

2010
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:03,759
Speaker 4: to the last two minutes, all that stuff is in play.

2011
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:06,400
Speaker 4: Carlos is up next to two three, nine, ten seventy,

2012
01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:07,720
Speaker 4: joining us on the Fan Morning Show.

2013
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:10,040
Speaker 5: Good morning, Carlos, Good morning, buddy.

2014
01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:11,280
Speaker 3: Great job on the show.

2015
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:16,040
Speaker 12: You know, like the last College just you know, just

2016
01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:23,160
Speaker 12: you know, questioning Shae Stunkin's aggressiveness, and I'm questioning myself

2017
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:26,160
Speaker 12: with the same entirely with Lou Lou.

2018
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:29,600
Speaker 3: Calling the play. Of course, you can see there was

2019
01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:30,600
Speaker 3: no trust.

2020
01:32:30,479 --> 01:32:34,519
Speaker 12: On your corners. Why not play men and men give

2021
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:35,200
Speaker 12: out the blue lag?

2022
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:35,680
Speaker 4: So be it.

2023
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:36,840
Speaker 12: You got him on the ropes.

2024
01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:37,519
Speaker 10: You're a boxer.

2025
01:32:37,800 --> 01:32:41,080
Speaker 12: You got someone kind of hurt, finished with your best combination.

2026
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:44,360
Speaker 12: So what's the best thing you can do to Sam Donald?

2027
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:49,840
Speaker 12: Put him under pressure. That's when he stumbles. So I think,

2028
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:53,680
Speaker 12: to me, it was very important for us to go.

2029
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:54,759
Speaker 3: After these guys.

2030
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:56,320
Speaker 4: I mean and.

2031
01:32:57,960 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 12: Same time, same time type of mentality with with Louell

2032
01:33:02,120 --> 01:33:03,360
Speaker 12: in a room and call him the game man.

2033
01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:05,600
Speaker 3: But the work for me it was no trust on

2034
01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:06,320
Speaker 3: these guys.

2035
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:07,960
Speaker 12: Who was going to trust them?

2036
01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:08,479
Speaker 4: You know?

2037
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:12,840
Speaker 12: The difference that phenomenal And I get that I can

2038
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:15,400
Speaker 12: win for the phiblic because he knowed that his difference

2039
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:18,400
Speaker 12: was playing playing good and we shouldn't make the adjustment

2040
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:21,240
Speaker 12: of just playing man a man man playing tighter, play

2041
01:33:21,320 --> 01:33:27,519
Speaker 12: press and make make Sam Donald fit you by playing softman.

2042
01:33:27,640 --> 01:33:30,320
Speaker 12: Come on, I mean that was so but.

2043
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:31,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I hear you.

2044
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:32,720
Speaker 2: Thank you for the call, man.

2045
01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:35,480
Speaker 4: How about sending six guys on one of those plays.

2046
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:37,439
Speaker 2: We had discussion earlier, Jeff, I think it's an either

2047
01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:41,400
Speaker 2: or you go. You either bring the house or you

2048
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:43,600
Speaker 2: drop eight. And again, I know somebody might say, what

2049
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:47,719
Speaker 2: drop eight? Let Donald sit back there? If you make

2050
01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:50,439
Speaker 2: him check it down, even if it's an eight or

2051
01:33:50,479 --> 01:33:53,280
Speaker 2: ten yard game and you tackle them in bounds, and

2052
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:55,559
Speaker 2: if you do that two times, I think the game's

2053
01:33:55,600 --> 01:33:58,439
Speaker 2: over or you're probably forcing hail Mary or like a

2054
01:33:58,479 --> 01:34:02,000
Speaker 2: sixty five yard would they have no timeouts? The ability

2055
01:34:02,120 --> 01:34:05,280
Speaker 2: to just tackle them in bounds on a eight to

2056
01:34:05,439 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 2: nine yard game? What did what did Shahid get in

2057
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:09,720
Speaker 2: the first play? Eighteen something like that? That's way too

2058
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:11,840
Speaker 2: big of a game if you're able to keep them

2059
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:15,479
Speaker 2: so Either to me, it's a blitz all day, like

2060
01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:17,960
Speaker 2: they tried on the second down play or on the

2061
01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:20,720
Speaker 2: second second depletion it didn't work out, like Carlos says there,

2062
01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:24,760
Speaker 2: or you simply just like keep everything in front of you,

2063
01:34:25,479 --> 01:34:27,760
Speaker 2: don't let them get, you know, build that wall if

2064
01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:30,920
Speaker 2: you will, at like eight to ten yards, And that's

2065
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:33,479
Speaker 2: where I think the mistake was made there. To me,

2066
01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:35,080
Speaker 2: it was either or I thought the first down was

2067
01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:36,439
Speaker 2: kind of a half ass attempt at both.

2068
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:38,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, uh yeah.

2069
01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:41,760
Speaker 4: Seventeen yard passed to start that game winning drive for

2070
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:44,280
Speaker 4: Seattle that was followed up sparkled.

2071
01:34:44,439 --> 01:34:47,240
Speaker 5: They ran up and spiked the football stop the clock.

2072
01:34:47,400 --> 01:34:51,760
Speaker 4: Then Donald went short to Shaheed, and then they just

2073
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:54,000
Speaker 4: got in a position and won the football game, all right.

2074
01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:55,920
Speaker 4: Coming up in a moment, we'll have a few final

2075
01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:59,160
Speaker 4: thoughts for the day. Eighteen sixteen final score. Seahawks get

2076
01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:01,160
Speaker 4: the win, Colts now eight and six. We'll talk about

2077
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:03,200
Speaker 4: it next ninety three five one O seven the fan.

2078
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:07,000
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2079
01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:09,200
Speaker 8: is here in full effect. We got smacked in the

2080
01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:11,240
Speaker 8: face over the weekend with the bitter cold and a

2081
01:35:11,320 --> 01:35:12,280
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2082
01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:15,120
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2083
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2084
01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:20,559
Speaker 8: so and it's not stopping anytime soon with the forecast

2085
01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:22,920
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2086
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2087
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2088
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2089
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2091
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2100
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Speaker 7: He went out there, we had a chance to win it,

2112
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:23,960
Speaker 7: I mean put it that way, and we had a

2113
01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:25,479
Speaker 7: chance to win it there at the end, got a

2114
01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:27,160
Speaker 7: field goal to take the lead with thirty seconds left

2115
01:36:27,240 --> 01:36:29,920
Speaker 7: or whatever it was forty seconds. I thought he made

2116
01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:32,280
Speaker 7: his offense, you know, playing going in the game was

2117
01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:34,320
Speaker 7: run the ball, control of the clock. I thought we

2118
01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:36,880
Speaker 7: did a pretty good job of that, you know, in

2119
01:36:36,920 --> 01:36:38,720
Speaker 7: the first half. It was setting up pretty good in

2120
01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:42,040
Speaker 7: the first half that way, and then obviously didn't manage

2121
01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:43,840
Speaker 7: enough points during the second half. Coupt the three there

2122
01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:46,680
Speaker 7: at the end but you know it was a hard

2123
01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:47,240
Speaker 7: fought game.

2124
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:49,080
Speaker 5: Back and forth, Shanks diking.

2125
01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:52,040
Speaker 4: That's the aftermath of the Cult eighteen sixteen loss to

2126
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:55,320
Speaker 4: Seattle in Seattle yesterday. We've been talking about it all

2127
01:36:55,400 --> 01:36:57,720
Speaker 4: morning long, Kevin Bowen. Before you and I get too

2128
01:36:57,800 --> 01:37:00,839
Speaker 4: much further, let's let Mark Dyke and shine. Every Friday.

2129
01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:03,280
Speaker 4: Mark puts it out there, what are your headlines going

2130
01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:05,960
Speaker 4: to be about the game? And everybody responds and they

2131
01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:08,919
Speaker 4: give their was it five words? Mark for the headlines?

2132
01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:12,080
Speaker 8: The five words or less. We're very strict about that.

2133
01:37:12,200 --> 01:37:12,960
Speaker 8: So let's get into it.

2134
01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:14,799
Speaker 5: Let's hear the questions again.

2135
01:37:18,439 --> 01:37:20,439
Speaker 2: I can't read it. There's no there's no words on it.

2136
01:37:20,520 --> 01:37:22,479
Speaker 7: I'm Ron Burgundy, and this is what's happening in your

2137
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:23,680
Speaker 7: world tonight.

2138
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:27,519
Speaker 3: Ripped from the headlines of the Do It Live Get

2139
01:37:27,680 --> 01:37:30,840
Speaker 3: post game headlines, and things.

2140
01:37:30,720 --> 01:37:32,200
Speaker 2: Sucks, all right?

2141
01:37:32,280 --> 01:37:34,760
Speaker 8: So five words are less to sum up the game

2142
01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:38,080
Speaker 8: against the Seahawks. Brock had one of my favorites. He says,

2143
01:37:38,200 --> 01:37:43,519
Speaker 8: Phil beats time, not Seahawks. Brent added, Gramps kicked out

2144
01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:44,200
Speaker 8: of Seattle.

2145
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:46,560
Speaker 4: Uh I.

2146
01:37:46,640 --> 01:37:49,759
Speaker 8: Alex the IU football fan said fading fast with field

2147
01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:53,479
Speaker 8: goals a lot of alliteration right there. Terry de says,

2148
01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:57,479
Speaker 8: just enough to keep watching. Mark says one field goal

2149
01:37:57,640 --> 01:38:02,840
Speaker 8: too many, no moral victories, defense folded, says Jeremy B.

2150
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:07,040
Speaker 8: Dud says close, but no signetti. Any of that stuck

2151
01:38:07,080 --> 01:38:08,799
Speaker 8: out to you, Kevin, Yeah.

2152
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:13,080
Speaker 2: Corey, defense slower than Grandpaul phil I would say probably

2153
01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:17,040
Speaker 2: there at the end, Uh, definitely true. And then John

2154
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:20,760
Speaker 2: Riley Leonard couldn't do that question Mark.

2155
01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:24,040
Speaker 8: It's a great question debate that we've had all morning.

2156
01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:28,439
Speaker 4: The one I came up with was Colts Rivers run dry.

2157
01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:32,120
Speaker 8: Michael had Rivers dinks, Colts offense stinks.

2158
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:35,439
Speaker 5: It's you get the sense of.

2159
01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:38,000
Speaker 4: What happened with all those headlines, they're all spot on,

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Speaker 4: But the Colts lose eighteen sixteen, and you start to

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Speaker 4: look ahead to a Monday night game with the San

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Speaker 4: Francisco forty nine ers. And I don't know that the

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Speaker 4: Sporting nine Ers team is.

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Speaker 2: Great, better, worse than Seattle.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, but I know that what we saw

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Speaker 4: offensively yesterday that just can't win your football games on

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Speaker 4: any kind of consistent basis. And now that San Francisco

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Speaker 4: is going to go back and look at everything that

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Speaker 4: happened and how it happened and why it happened.

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Speaker 5: Do we think it's going to get better all of

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Speaker 5: a sudden.

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Speaker 2: Well, a couple questions I would have, is this first

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Speaker 2: off to Forrest Bluckner, Sauce Gardner. Can they play it

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Speaker 2: for you on Monday?

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Speaker 5: That would help?

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Speaker 2: That would be where I would start first. Uh yeah,

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Speaker 2: exactly what this offense could look like more in a

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Speaker 2: week change? Sech and seem to express optimism that there's

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Speaker 2: more there.

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Speaker 4: I don't how much more.

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Speaker 2: I'm a little hard pressed to find exactly what that is.

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Speaker 2: You know, San Francisco. I mean they are the poster

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Speaker 2: child for we overcome injuries, you know. I mean they're

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Speaker 2: starting quarterbacks played what six games all year? You know,

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Speaker 2: with what Nick Bosa and Fred Warner and you know,

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Speaker 2: their first round pick and right, they are the poster

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Speaker 2: child for we don't care about injuries. We just find

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Speaker 2: a way to get it done. They've once again done

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Speaker 2: that this season. It's not that big of a spread,

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Speaker 2: by the way, I want to say, they're favored by

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Speaker 2: like four or five, so Vegas expects this to be

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Speaker 2: much much more competitive than certainly Seattle was.

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Speaker 4: Well, they're gonna have to try and find a way

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Speaker 4: to get three more wins.

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Speaker 5: I believe it's in order.

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Speaker 4: San Francisco Monday night, Jacksonville at home, and then the

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Speaker 4: Houston Texans on the road. Am I correcting those?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Obviously three gets you in. To be clear, two

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Speaker 2: could get you in. I know that might sound ludicrous

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Speaker 2: to a lot of people, but two could be enough

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Speaker 2: depending on the results that you get. Now, this is

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Speaker 2: a really poor week for positive playoff results for the Colts,

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Speaker 2: really really poor week in that realm. So you know,

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Speaker 2: Jacksonville Houston, the last two weeks of the season are

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Speaker 2: the massive games if you're going to weigh the three. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: given the state that you're in, any loss right now

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Speaker 2: isn't good. Can I ask you a quick question, though?

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Speaker 4: But the last two, right right here, right now, is

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Speaker 4: Jacksonville right now the best team in the AFC?

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Speaker 5: I was the way they're playing, the way they're playing.

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Speaker 2: I would say no. I mean I, first off, I

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Speaker 2: still am not betting against Josh Allen given how the

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Speaker 2: playoff landscape looks here. And then as much as we

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Speaker 2: continue to be skeptical of Denver and New England, they

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Speaker 2: just seemingly go out there and win every single week.

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Speaker 2: So I thought that Denver win was pretty impressive yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Obviously I wasn't watching a ton of it, but that

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Speaker 2: was a pretty impressive result yesterday.

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Speaker 4: The bo Nick's style second half, they were down twenty

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Speaker 4: three fourteen, then just a few minutes left in third quarter,

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Speaker 4: they're like, Okay, time to start.

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Speaker 2: Now, let's go.

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Speaker 5: It's what they do.

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Speaker 4: But we'll be talking about this all week long. The

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Speaker 4: San Francisco forty nine ers coming back. Will Philip Rivers

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Speaker 4: once again be the quarterback? Listen for Jake's reaction in

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Speaker 4: JMB throughout the day, Jake at noon, JMB at three, Kevin,

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Speaker 4: great job as always. We'll have James Boyd back tomorrow

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Speaker 4: morning as well. Mark Way to fight through all the

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Speaker 4: technical stuff.

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Speaker 5: Good job.

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Speaker 4: We'll see tomorrow