1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Line from Baal Heartbland and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: Tony Katz. Today California has been blocked from enforcing their 3 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: mask ban on ICE agents. You've seen President Trump win 4 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: on the idea of detaining illegal immigrants. There have been 5 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: a lot of wins for the President, a lot of 6 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: losses for over aggressive, over zealous, and I will argue 7 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: anti American progressive forces. Not enough talking about that, not 8 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: enough mentions of dear Lord. These lower courts, filled with 9 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: activist judges do engage and engage in all sorts of nonsense. 10 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: But when you get to I don't know, actual adults, 11 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: people who aren't activists, they're actually able to apply the 12 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: law and say, well, the president, of course has this 13 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: right when it comes to masks in California. These are 14 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 1: federal officials, and there's a supremacy clause. State law doesn't 15 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: get to affect that. I'm a federalist. I'm a believer 16 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: in states rights. But sorry, you don't get everything you 17 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: want in this society. And if you think the states 18 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: should be able to override the federal government, well what 19 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 1: kind of society do these people want? Anyway? Tony Katz, 20 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: Tony Kats today. Good to be here, Good to be 21 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,199 Speaker 1: with You. Find everything over at Tony katz dot com. 22 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: The show sheet is up there. Everything I have been 23 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: talking about or I think is important is there on 24 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: the sheet. Check it out for yourself. Go to Tony 25 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: kats dot com. Be a subscriber. If you choose a 26 00:01:55,400 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: lot of wins, a lot of wins for the president. 27 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: This is very very good stuff. But there is probably 28 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: no win bigger right now then the win. Regarding the 29 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: Epstein Files, from the beginning this show, I am on 30 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: record the Epstein files should be released in full. Do 31 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: I accept redactions? I do accept redactions. There are people 32 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: who were abused and abused terrifically. There are people who 33 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: are in the files who did nothing wrong, and I 34 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: don't want their lives destroyed. And so I did disagree 35 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: with the legislation that was passed, that was pushed through 36 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: by circumventing regular order with something called the discharge petition 37 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: that brought this to the floor for a vote. I 38 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: favor the release. I just favored a little bit of care. 39 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 1: People like Marjorie Taylor Green did not care. Someone who 40 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: I'm thrilled has retired, and let's never think that Marjorie 41 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: Taylor Green is some kind of great American engage in 42 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: some great American talk. Now that is a jilted lover, 43 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. We can get into that another time, 44 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: but now we are releasing data. I have argued from 45 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: the beginning that when President Trump said why are we 46 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: paying attention to the Epstein filesaid he was wrong. It 47 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,679 Speaker 1: was a mistake, a rare one, not understanding where the 48 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: people were, and it was a mistake. And then of 49 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: course some people, being the acolytes that they are and 50 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: doing whatever it is that they're told, said, well, President 51 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: Trump doesn't want us talk about this, let's not talk 52 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: about it. And they were wrong. Happily said they were wrong. 53 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: Flings and arrows didn't matter. They were wrong. It does 54 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: matter to the American people. It should matter. People were 55 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: involved with abusing children. We need to find them and 56 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: we need to arrest them. But nothing has been more 57 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: disgusting than watching the political left take this story and say, 58 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: how can we use this politically? I put forward to 59 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: you that the vast majority of progressives don't give a 60 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: good holy damn about children. It's only how can they 61 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: destroy Trump? Beginning to end how can they destroy Donald Trump? 62 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: And how can they destroy the political right? How can 63 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: they obtain victory? How can they obtain power and then 64 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: never give it up again? That was it, and they 65 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: don't care what happened to the kids. I absolutely believe 66 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 1: that to be the case. If I thought that the 67 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: political left in the main believed about kids, they never 68 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: would have been okay with excused or protected gender affirming care, 69 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: never once, never ever, never once never. So why would 70 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: I believe that all of a sudden they care about children? 71 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: Regarding the EPSTEM files, they don't they care about Can 72 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: we destroy Donald Trump? Can we can we get all 73 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: the power and prevent the opposition people who disagree with 74 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: us from ever having a say. This brings us to 75 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: the story that was over there at ABC News and 76 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: it got tweeted out at the first. It was a 77 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: very very simple tweet, and it reads a former police 78 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: chief who investigated Jeffrey Epstein in the mid two thousands 79 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: told the FBI he had received a call from Donald 80 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: Trump at the time to say, thank goodness, you're stopping him. 81 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: Everyone has known, everyone has known he's been doing this, 82 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: according to an FBI account that story. Then it becomes 83 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: your headline on ABC News. Ex police chief says Trump 84 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: told him, thank goodness, you're stopping Epstein. In the two thousands, 85 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: the story continues that you know, everybody knows that Trump 86 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: threw Epstein out of mar A Lago this because he 87 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: was poaching employees from the SPA. Maybe it was more 88 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: than that. The police chief's name is Michael Ryder, and 89 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: what he states is as writers, detectives were investigating Epstein 90 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: for allegedly recruiting girls as young as fourteen to provide 91 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: massages that turn sexual. There's never a moment where Epstein 92 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: shouldn't have been charged, shouldn't be in jail, that Julane 93 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: Maxwell shouldn't be in jail. Never once. Everybody connected to 94 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: this needs to go to jail. But according to Writer's 95 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: testimony in October of twenty nineteen, this is two months 96 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: after Epstein's death, Donald Trump told Writer that he threw 97 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: Epstein out of his club. Trump called the Palm Each 98 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: police department to tell him, thank goodness, you're stopping him. 99 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: Everyone has known he's been doing this. That's in the 100 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: FBI report. Then there is the story of a call 101 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: that came in July of two thousand and six, Trump 102 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: told him people in New York knew Epstein was disgusting. 103 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: Trump said Maxwell was Epstein's operative quote, she is evil 104 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: and to focus on her unquote. Trump told this cop 105 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: writer that he was around Epstein once when teenagers were present, 106 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: and Trump quote got the hell out of there unquote. 107 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: Trump was one of the very first people to call 108 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: when people found out that they were investigating Epstein. The 109 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: left does not care what the truth is. They care 110 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: that they can destroy the president. And when it's not Trump, 111 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: it will be the next person, which is an extremely 112 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: important thing to note. It is not we want to 113 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: argue that it's about Trump. It's because Trump is the president. 114 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: If Trump wasn't the president, and if it was another Republican, 115 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: it would be about that person. It wouldn't be the 116 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: Epstein files, it would be something else. It is never ending, 117 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: and it is unyielding. This is the system and the methodology. 118 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: Data points after data points after data point shows that 119 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: Trump knew Jeffrey Epstein, that Trump figured out what Jeffrey 120 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: Epstein was all about, and Trump wanted nothing to do 121 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: with Jeffrey Epstein. All three of those things he knew him. 122 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: They were at events together, they were probably at parties together. 123 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: There's video of this, there's a photo of that. And 124 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: when Trump learned what he was about. When Trump learned 125 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: what he was about, Trump walked, Trump said get out. 126 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: And the left can't handle that, that reality of that situation. 127 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: The left is so desperate that Trump be guilty because 128 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: he must be destroyed. But it isn't just Trump, it 129 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: is whoever comes next. There is no honesty to take place, 130 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: there is no engagement of a conversation to take place. 131 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: It is only how do you destroy the enemy? Those 132 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: are the facts that the left can scream and yell 133 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: and chit chat and talk on social media and cry 134 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: and rent their clothes all screw off, we see you. 135 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: Every data point goes in the other direction. Why don't 136 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: you just say so, Why don't you just accept it? 137 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: Why are you in such a cult that you can't 138 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: accept that on this subject you don't have it. You 139 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: could talk about the economy, you can talk about foreign policy, 140 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 1: you could talk about a host of things. You don't 141 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: have it. All your name calling, all your screaming and yelling. 142 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: Why can't you just accept the fact that on this 143 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 1: you don't have it. You might have it on other things. 144 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: Why can't it be about policy? You don't want to 145 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: be on policy. You can't have a policy conversation. You 146 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: can only have a destroy conversation. That's all. That's all 147 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: you can do. I favor the full release of the 148 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: Epstein files, and the only things I wanted redacted were 149 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: the names of victims. And there are people clearly in 150 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: connection or in these files that did nothing wrong. I 151 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: didn't want them to have to suffer from being listed 152 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: in a report. There I am as clear as day. 153 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: You can go back to the very beginning of these conversations, 154 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: and I'm the guy who said President Trump was wrong, 155 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: and people yelled at me. Ah, screw them, they were wrong. 156 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: I don't have to worry about it. When people are wrong. 157 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: You gotta be honest, You gotta be clear, You gotta 158 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: be able to stick to your guns and not sway. 159 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: Why can't you just accept this? Why can't you just 160 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: accept you don't have it on this one? Why can't 161 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: you do it? The answer to why you can't do it, 162 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you asked, is that you don't want to. 163 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: You have no interest in doing so. You don't have 164 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: an interest in honesty, You don't have an interest in 165 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: the truth. You don't have an interest in engagement in 166 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: the discussion. You don't have it. I don't know if 167 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: you're capable of it. At this stage of the game. 168 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: You are in the borg mentality of one mind on 169 00:11:50,480 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 1: all things. Destroy, not engage, not discuss, not de bait. Destroy. 170 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: I don't know of any other way to fight that 171 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: except to never once back down to it. It's something 172 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 1: that we learned from the early days of cancel culture. 173 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: The people who gave into cancel culture only gave rise 174 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: to more cancel culture. The people who said, why don't 175 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: you go to hell? Oh? Sure, the voices got loud 176 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: for a while, and then they moved on to somebody 177 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: else because they went for the easy target. Don't be 178 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: the easy target. If President Trump has taught anything, whether 179 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: you like him or not, is that you don't give in. 180 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: They punched, you punched back ten times harder. They bring 181 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: the gun to the knife fight, You bring all the 182 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: guns to the knife fight. You don't stop. You get 183 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: totally rel lists. You never once give in, and in 184 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: Trump's case, you never once admit nope, no, no, no, no, no, 185 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 1: I'm perfect. You're the problem. I am in great shape 186 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: and the peak of a fitness mentally and physically, and 187 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: you are a low life, fat bastard, you Olympic athlete. 188 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it is amazing stuff. It's incredible stuff. But 189 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: he's shown it. What is interesting is that the left 190 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: refuses to relent. He keeps pushing back, and they keep 191 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: coming back because they believe that this is the tactic 192 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: that will win. And so when Trump doesn't fall for it, 193 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: they get more and more intense, which is why you 194 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: see things get violent, why you see Antifa and other 195 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: things happen. There are so many subjects to which there 196 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: could be a debate about Trump and about policy and 197 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: about personality that the left could win, and they choose 198 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: not to. They don't want to win that way because 199 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: they know they can't because it involves too much discussion 200 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: and it involves people maybe having a different opinion. And 201 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: if there's one thing that progressivism shows is that there 202 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: can be no difference of opinion. It must be the 203 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: same thought everywhere, at all times, the same thought, the 204 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: same concept, constantly and consistently without any deviation. The deviation 205 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: is deadly to the Democrat. So they won't be they 206 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: won't be changing. They won't be engaging differently. They will 207 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: see more and more information that Trump figured out who 208 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: this guy was and wanted no part of him, and 209 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: they'll continue to scream pedophile, whatever idiocy they scream. Our 210 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: job is to pay no attention, is to laugh in 211 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: their face and to go win the midterms because this 212 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: nonsense can't be rewarded. ICE needs to continue to do 213 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: their job. This economy needs two or three things to change. 214 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: And there's some interesting data out today and those those 215 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: midterms are indeed winnable. But if there's any place that 216 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: we have to start, these people what they're screaming and 217 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: they're yelling, and their unwillingness to recognize what's clear to everybody. 218 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: They need to be pushed back on liars, frauds, cultists, freaks, 219 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: and to quote Governor Tim Walls, these leftists are just 220 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: playing weird. They won't accept the truth. These people are weird. 221 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: They cannot be allowed to win. I'm Tony Katz, and 222 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: this is Tony Katz today