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Speaker 1: Okay, so we knew this was coming.

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Speaker 2: I think we've been kind of alluded to this yesterday

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Speaker 3: You've heard of that before, right, yeahc driven by many times.

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 2: By the way, it's Kenney Casey, Jean Rob Casey's here.

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Speaker 2: They are not happy about the Trump administration this detention

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Speaker 3: Yep, the Miami Correctional Facility with.

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Speaker 2: The Miami Correctional Facility Bunker Hill, Indiana, because you don't know,

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Speaker 2: just get on thirty one, just head and you'll basically

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Speaker 2: run right into it. They are not happy about it

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Speaker 2: being dubbed the Speedway Slammer, and I don't blame them,

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Speaker 2: and I can't believe, first of all, how stupid these

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Speaker 2: land wasn't going to give you a little pushback on that.

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Speaker 5: Well, part of the problem is that DHS shared an

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Speaker 5: AI generated image and it's of an indie car and

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Speaker 5: it has Ice branding on it, and it had the

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Speaker 5: number five. Well that's associated with Pato Award, right, and

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Speaker 5: so Penske Entertainment, which owns the speedway. They stated they

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Speaker 5: were not informed, and they requested that their intellectual property

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Speaker 5: we're not going to change the branding and all of

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Speaker 5: these concerns over the intellectual property is absurd, and it's

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Speaker 5: going to be branded as Speedway Slammer.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So let's talk about that for a second.

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Speaker 2: Because one of the things, and I recognize that somebody's

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Speaker 2: but this doesn't come off as serious like the alligator

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Speaker 1: Whatever.

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Speaker 2: It's sort of DeSantis brand. I guess, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: But now, when we're just coming up with nicknames for

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Speaker 2: And so what I mean by that is in order

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Speaker 2: People, including people who voted for Trump, who just wanted

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Speaker 5: Why does it have to have a brand like speedway Slammer.

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Speaker 5: Why can't it just be called the Miami Correctional Facility,

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Speaker 5: Like does it have to have this speedway slammer moniker?

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Speaker 5: And you know, when you think about the speedway, that's

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Speaker 5: And now you've got dhs taking a place where all

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and especially like the alligator Alcatraz or whatever that was.

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Speaker 1: Hey, that was de Sands's thing.

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Speaker 3: It may sound boring, but when they're not there available

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Speaker 1: It's a huge deal, exactly.

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Speaker 1: The at the tippy top. That's so.

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Speaker 2: But in the sense of this government is boring the

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Speaker 2: These people should be apprehended, they should be sent back

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Speaker 1: There's no problem with that.

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Speaker 2: But when you're trying to make it some sort of

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Speaker 3: So the borders are Tom Holman.

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Speaker 5: He said that he doesn't know who named the initiative,

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Speaker 2: Exactly, and it will, and it will. People will know

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Speaker 2: all right. So we're gonna go and take a break

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Speaker 2: because we've got a little bit of an extended segment

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Speaker 2: We've got this redissearching stuff. Vance's here, We've got these still.

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Speaker 2: This is a big story, these allegations of AI porn

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Speaker 5: It's Kennelyn Casey on ninety three w IBC.

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Speaker 6: I can say there's so much going on, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: It's a lot, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Every year session ends and we're like, what we'll we

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Speaker 2: the Great Nikki Kelly. Nikki Kelly, Hello, good morning.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't sign up for this like it's in

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Speaker 4: an AWF election year and can't catch our breath.

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Speaker 3: Nikki, this is supposed to be the slow season.

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Speaker 4: Right, specially working on projects.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so all right, dealer's choice. We got two big

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Speaker 2: I'd be saying that to you, Nicki Kelly. We can

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Speaker 4: Sure, let's start with porn.

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Speaker 2: You know, I've known Nicki Kelly for a long time,

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Speaker 2: porn all right, So you guys have done an expose

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Speaker 2: Of course, this relates to allegations that artificial intelligence pornography

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Speaker 2: now because two things can't be true. Beck what claims

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Speaker 1: Like where are we at with this? What do we

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I still haven't talked to anyone who's

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Speaker 4: actually seen the video. I'm not saying it doesn't exist.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying I haven't found anyone yet. And so

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Speaker 4: I think the first thing that Mary Kenny Crosskier's office

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Speaker 2: Okay, So this is where I'm stuck on in Casey

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Speaker 2: and I've talked about this out loud. You've known Lobianco

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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to I'm going to get the Lieutenant Governor

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Speaker 2: state Rep. Craig Haggard to name his wife as the victim. Right, like,

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Speaker 1: You ever seen a story like this?

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Speaker 2: You've covered what twenty five years now, you issu, you've

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Speaker 2: I think Nikki Kelly is our guest from the Indiana

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Speaker 4: Well, the leadership of the General Assembly has been refusing

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Speaker 5: So what have you heard about the sit in that

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Speaker 4: I know that I've got a couple of reporters over

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Speaker 4: Right You've got a public sit in, You've got Democrats

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Speaker 2: In Texas, Nikki Kelly is our guest from the Capitol Chronicle.

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Speaker 2: We are discussing the redistricting. Okay, so can you explain

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Speaker 2: We touched on it yesterday.

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Speaker 1: You can't just.

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Speaker 2: Willy nilly make up a congressional district. There are very

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Speaker 1: Can you talk about that for a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, ill address that twofold. First of all, when I

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Speaker 4: then once you go there, you have to say, what

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Speaker 4: could you get out of Indiana's maps? And I think

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Speaker 4: So it's it's sort of like a ripple effect. So

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Speaker 1: Do you like, is the juice worth the squeeze?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: And that's what it comes down to, is the juice

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Speaker 2: this effort, Like you said, one the first congressional district

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Speaker 2: how do you even do all of that? And then

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Speaker 2: Real quick, before I let you go, when there is

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Speaker 4: Yeah, anyone can file bills. Obviously, if Republicans are going

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Speaker 4: file a bill in a special session.

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Speaker 1: She is one of the best in the business.

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Speaker 2: You find her over at Indiana Capitol Chronicle dot com.

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Speaker 2: Nikki Kelly, thank.

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Speaker 4: You, thanks a lot, guys.

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Speaker 5: Yep, it's Kendall and Casey. On ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 2: So, an Indiana law involving the police was struck down,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so the US Court of Appeals for the steff

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Speaker 2: Now, as you know, my least favorite part of every program,

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Speaker 1: So the laws.

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Speaker 2: Required people to remain twenty five feet away from any

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Speaker 3: Right during official duties.

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Speaker 5: The law actually said the police could help people to

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Speaker 2: If a cop wanted you to get closer, they could

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Speaker 1: And I said, there is.

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Speaker 2: I said, it's gonna be very hard to equally enforce

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Speaker 3: Thing out the fourteenth ammdber boy.

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Speaker 1: How now?

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Speaker 2: How is it that the low level bird lawyer, radio

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Speaker 5: Okay, So what they're saying is that the all lacked

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Speaker 2: So let's let's talk about That's what one of the

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Speaker 1: And I said, Nigel, think about that.

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Speaker 2: That's the guy on top of being nine million years old,

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Speaker 1: You think anyone that he doesn't like or care for

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Speaker 2: self control and are so elitist and self absorbed, they

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Speaker 2: don't care about truth, they don't care about right. They

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Speaker 2: care about what they want period. So this law, which

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Speaker 2: was so poorly written that the Midday guy on WIBC

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Speaker 2: with no legal training whatsoever, can look at it go ahead.

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Speaker 1: It ain't gonna work.

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Speaker 2: But these lawmakers they didn't care about what was right.

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Speaker 2: They don't care about the law, they don't care about

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Speaker 2: what's going to pass muster. It was passed at a

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Speaker 2: time twenty twenty three where there's this clear, hey, we

447
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Speaker 2: think we can score political points against the Democrats because

448
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Speaker 2: they're so anti police, which they are by crafting a

449
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Speaker 2: law says we're gonna show you how pro cop we

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Speaker 2: are by making this law that says, look.

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Speaker 1: Cops, we'll give you all this room to do your job.

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Speaker 1: Look at these evil, villainous protesters that we saw during

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Speaker 1: the riots. Now you can really stick it to them.

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Speaker 1: Who loves your baby?

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Speaker 2: It's the Republicans no interest in going Is that right?

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Speaker 1: Is that gonna pass muster? Is that gonna hold up?

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Speaker 2: And there's other other grounds this was and this is

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Speaker 2: important to realize, this law is being challenged on numerous grounds.

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Speaker 2: This is just one area in which they ruled and

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Speaker 2: threw it out. There's others like freedom of the press,

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Speaker 2: which I think it will probably go down on two

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Speaker 2: that are yet to be adjudicated where it could go

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Speaker 2: down again.

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Speaker 1: And so it really is an insight.

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Speaker 2: It's always the thing which is a bad law, which

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Speaker 2: it's being toppled right now based on this ruling by

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Speaker 2: the Court of Appeals, But it's also the bigger lesson

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Speaker 2: for you the audience is how the stuff gets done

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Speaker 2: and why it gets done. And this is another example

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Speaker 2: of our lawmakers not doing what's right. Attorneys, how can

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Speaker 2: they all be this wrong?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: Apparently, shouldn't be using these people as your attorneys if

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Speaker 2: they if they can't get this right, consult.

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Speaker 1: Your legal professional for all legal needs. Sure, train legal professional.

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Speaker 2: Right, But they're doing something just because it's politically expedient

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Speaker 2: to do. And now it's as of right now donzo

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Speaker 2: in the courts now obviously could go to the Supreme Court,

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Speaker 2: it can get appealed to blah blah blah, and it

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Speaker 2: probably will.

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Speaker 1: But it's just it shouldn't be this difficult.

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Speaker 3: So you're right.

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Speaker 5: The Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press, they challenged

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Speaker 5: the law on behalf of media organizations. They said that

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Speaker 5: it caused irreparable harm to journalism. Well, you know who's

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Speaker 5: calling causing a reparral harm to journalism? Many times it's

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Speaker 5: the journalists, well the news directors themselves, however.

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Speaker 1: But twenty five feet case, you think about how long

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Speaker 1: that is?

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Speaker 2: So I don't know how tall, Kevin, Can you look

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Speaker 2: up real quick for me how tall is Tyrese Haliburton.

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Speaker 2: Can you just look that up. It'll probably tell you

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Speaker 2: very quick in the Google search they're using all those

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Speaker 2: six he's taller than six five.

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Speaker 3: Let's see if there's any other story.

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Speaker 2: No way, he's got to be taller than six five. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: six five, no kidding, we'll operate off that. Okay, Tyre's Halliburton.

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Speaker 2: So twenty five feet it's four Tyre's Halliburton. That's how

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Speaker 2: far it is. If you took that's even perfect. That

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Speaker 2: worked out even better. Sorry, Kevin, I didn't mean to

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Speaker 2: impune your integrity in any sense. He just seems taller

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Speaker 2: than that.

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Speaker 1: Anyway.

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Speaker 2: If you took four of Tyre's Halliburton and you stretched

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Speaker 2: him out, that's how far this is. There's no way

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Speaker 2: you can say it cops in danger if you were

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Speaker 2: three Tyre's halliburtons away.

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Speaker 1: I mean, get out it.

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Speaker 2: Maybe two tyree okay, twelve twelve is But again, it's

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Speaker 2: the enforceability of it, like it's just it's such it's

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Speaker 2: so poorly written.

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Speaker 5: So the ACLU of Indiana, they argued that the law

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Speaker 5: in Fridges on the right to observe and record.

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Speaker 2: Police, well that's another big, big thing and that's another

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Speaker 2: area speech.

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Speaker 3: Would limit their accountability.

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Speaker 2: Right, is that, Hey, everyone's a citizen journalist now has

518
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Speaker 2: the potential to be a citizen journalist with the.

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Speaker 1: Cellular telephone in your pocket.

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Speaker 2: And how many times have we seen police interactions and look,

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Speaker 2: let let me get in phrases specify this. God bless

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Speaker 2: our cops, God bless our law enforcement people, God bless

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Speaker 2: those people who are willing. This is I'm not talking

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Speaker 2: about this like as some anti police thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about it. It's just simply bad public.

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Speaker 2: Policy that wasn't going to hold up in a court

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Speaker 2: of law, and now it has been struck down in

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Speaker 2: a court of law, and none of us police, regular people, fireman,

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Speaker 2: anybody should want that. We should want public policy that's

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Speaker 2: going to follow the law for all of the constitution

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Speaker 2: be able to be upheld. And because they went so

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Speaker 2: aggressively on this, something that might have been a closer

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Speaker 2: distance that could be upheld or wouldn't have been challenged, is.

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Speaker 1: Now not going to be the law which would make

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Speaker 1: your jobs easier.

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Speaker 5: Something else that happened yesterday the acting NASA administrator do

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Speaker 5: you know who that is?

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Speaker 1: Well, Buzz Aldrin.

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Speaker 5: The acting NASA Administrator was just announced within the past.

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Speaker 3: Couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: Oh is it Duffy?

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Speaker 3: Sean Duffy, very good, Hey, that's.

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Speaker 1: Right, because he's the transportation guy. To him, he is.

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Speaker 1: It's wild that he's NASA And it took me a

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Speaker 1: minute to figure.

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Speaker 5: Marco Rubia, Right, they get so many different jobs. You

547
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Speaker 5: can't keep track of a.

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Speaker 2: Buzz Aldron even still alive. Let's see here. Isn't that

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Speaker 2: wild that that's the first name I went there? It's

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Speaker 2: like buzz Aldron, first astronaut you think of? Who would

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Speaker 2: you say? Buzz Aldron is still alive. He's ninety five

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Speaker 2: years old.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: If you were to say, tell somebody name an astron

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Speaker 2: right to be Neil Armstrong?

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Speaker 1: Is that right? Yeah? Would buzz Aldron be number two?

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Speaker 3: Probably?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, or the Yeah, that'd probably be right anyway, Yes,

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Speaker 2: because that was crazy that the Transportation Administrator secretary.

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Speaker 3: Or whatever they call it, he's now the actors charge.

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Speaker 1: Things going into space.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: He issued a directive to accelerate development of a fission

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Speaker 5: based nuclear power source for the Moon.

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Speaker 1: Oh right, that's gonna yeah.

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Speaker 5: So the project is being prioritized due to national security concerns.

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Speaker 5: And international competition, and it's an America first.

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Speaker 1: Thing, so we're going to end up blowing up the moon.

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Speaker 3: We want to be the first one on the moon.

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Speaker 3: So they've got a timeline for this.

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Speaker 5: By August this month here, NASA says they're going to

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Speaker 5: appoint a new executive to lead the efforts, soe Sean

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Speaker 5: Duffy can just focus on transportation. By September, they expect

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Speaker 5: proposals from potential contractors.

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Speaker 1: Oh, somebody's gonna get rich off of this.

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Speaker 2: What do you want to bet that person might have

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Speaker 2: given money to somebody in the government. What do you

579
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Speaker 2: want to bet case when we see won who ends

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Speaker 2: up winning the big golden ticket.

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Speaker 5: Now, by March of next year, two finalists will be

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Speaker 5: awarded contracts to build and install the system, and the

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Speaker 5: target launch date will be Fall of twenty thirty.

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Speaker 1: I have an idea.

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Speaker 2: Now, stay with me on this, okay, And this is

586
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Speaker 2: a radical idea. Yeah, And if I'm totally out of bounds,

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Speaker 2: you just you smack me back into in the line.

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Speaker 1: Are you ready?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Leave it alone.

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Speaker 2: Well, how about we just focus on the price of food,

591
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Speaker 2: can we before we start putting nuclear reactors on the moon?

592
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Speaker 2: Can we just focus on the price of food and

593
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Speaker 2: the gas and make living living affordable here on earth.

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Speaker 2: How about we focus on affordable living here on earth

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Speaker 2: before we focus on putting things on the moon. Does

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Speaker 2: that make me some sort of crazy person who should

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Speaker 2: be institutionalized?

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Speaker 3: Casey, No, I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of crazy people who should be institutionalized, how about

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Speaker 2: that for a segue.

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Speaker 5: Hammer's up next on ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 2: Well, the Colts kick off the season tonight and somehow

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Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson's already been picked off and in his Colts attire,

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Speaker 2: mister Indianapolis, one half of the hammer In Nigel Radio program,

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Speaker 2: Jason Hammer.

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Speaker 6: Hello, quick public service announcement for your audience. Yeah, something

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Speaker 6: I encountered on my drive in the exit ramps, the

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Speaker 6: on ramps for seventy near the airport closed for the

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Speaker 6: arrival of JD. Van.

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Speaker 2: It's super cool that they've inconvenienced in entire cities so

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Speaker 2: that they can further rig the elections.

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Speaker 1: It's very nice of him.

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Speaker 5: He was actually asked about that moments ago, Kevin, do

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Speaker 5: you have that audio? Yeah, here's JD Vance in the

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Speaker 5: State House.

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Speaker 4: Beck Beca.

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Speaker 3: It's walking down a Hall right now.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's spelling radio.

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Speaker 3: Well, here comes.

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Speaker 1: Wash it Indiana redistricts. What are you gonna tell the

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Speaker 1: governor of sur vice president.

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Speaker 3: And no answer?

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Speaker 1: Go away.

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Speaker 6: Feels like I just listened to Abdul show on the weekend.

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Speaker 6: There I'm edited audio where you don't know what's going

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Speaker 6: to happen.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So nothing says transparency like running behind some closed

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Speaker 2: doors to talk about how you're going to make.

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Speaker 1: It more rigged a vote in the state of Indiana.

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Speaker 1: That's just brilliant.

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Speaker 6: But at the same time, like, yes, I would have

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Speaker 6: answered it, but I'm pompous and I'm over the top,

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Speaker 6: Like if he stopped to answer every single person that

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Speaker 6: yelled a question out at him.

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Speaker 2: Sure, but it's the fact that they're going behind some

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Speaker 2: tarped allegedly some tarped off areas. Like, if you're going

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Speaker 2: to talk about how you're going to affect seven million people,

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Speaker 2: have the conversation out in front of everybody, don't go

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Speaker 2: behind some closed door and come up with your new

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Speaker 2: goofy little map to rig it in favor of your

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Speaker 2: political party, because y'all can't win elections based on governing competently.

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Speaker 1: Tell us how you're going to screw us out in public.

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Speaker 5: So you're saying that you had a difficult time getting

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Speaker 5: into work today because of that.

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Speaker 6: So seventy over by Sam Jones, the artist, formerly known

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Speaker 6: as Airport Expressway shut down like you couldn't even get

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Speaker 6: on it, right?

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Speaker 1: So all right?

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Speaker 6: Fine, So I go down a little bit further because

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Speaker 6: I'm southwest side and I hit Washington Street. It's like, okay,

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Speaker 6: I'll take Washington Street in. You get to a point

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Speaker 6: to Washington Street where road closed ahead due to construction. Well,

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Speaker 6: son of a you know what, So now I got

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Speaker 6: to backtrack, come all the way back, pass all the

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Speaker 6: exits that I'm not allowed to get on, and find

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Speaker 6: an alternative way downtown.

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Speaker 1: Cases.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really easy to get downtown right now.

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Speaker 1: Remember when living used to be easy?

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Speaker 6: I made This construction right now is so ridiculous. I've

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Speaker 6: lived in Indie my whole life. I'm a lifer here.

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Speaker 6: I've never seen so many places under construction at once

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Speaker 6: where there's no hope of it getting done anytime soon.

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Speaker 6: Like Illinois Street is totally shut down because of government

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Speaker 6: funded hotel. But at least they're working on that. That

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Speaker 6: thing's going up like a rocket ship.

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Speaker 1: Look at the monument out here.

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Speaker 6: Well you can't rob because you refuse to put the

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Speaker 6: window up.

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Speaker 1: But oh I put the American flag up. What a

671
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Speaker 1: horrible person that I hang our nation's colors down?

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Speaker 6: Me not why you do it? You want the perfect

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00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 6: lighting on your face because you want all the attentions.

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Speaker 1: Actually, Carl does it all. Carl's really in charge of.

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Speaker 2: Them, all of that, And well we'd be worse off

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Speaker 2: without Carl anyway, Go ahead, sorry.

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Speaker 6: But this damn thing's been under construction for like three years. Yes,

678
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 6: there's nobody ever working. It's like a running joke we

679
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Speaker 6: have in the afternoon. We get here at three o'clock.

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Speaker 6: Look out the window. It's a beautiful, partly cloudy, seventy

681
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Speaker 6: nine degree day, and there's nobody out there working.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody told me this years ago in a government

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Speaker 2: meeting about traffic. They said, the goal of anything you're doing,

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Speaker 2: as it relates, whether it's speed limit signs or signs

685
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Speaker 2: of businesses or whatever, is to keep the traffic moving.

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Speaker 2: Because as long as you're moving, even if it's at

687
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Speaker 2: five miles an hour, there's always hope.

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Speaker 1: As a motorist.

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Speaker 2: You see road rage when there's no hope of movement,

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Speaker 2: and they have created a level of desparate hopelessness in

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Speaker 2: downtown to Indianapolis, the likes I have never seen before.

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Speaker 6: Well, look who the mayor is, right, And you've said

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Speaker 6: this before, Rob, The job of a mayor in theory

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Speaker 6: is pretty simple, right. You keep your roads and your

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Speaker 6: infrastructure taken care of. You make sure the trash gets

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Speaker 6: picked up on a timely basis, and no scandals, no

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Speaker 6: embarrassment wops. We're all for three on a boss Hank

698
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Speaker 6: set there because the trash in my neighborhood, we're lucky

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Speaker 6: if it gets picked up on a Friday.

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Speaker 2: The four things that a mayor is supposed to be

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Speaker 2: responsible for. Everything else is just shenanigans. You judge your

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00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 2: mayor based on these these four things. You can throw

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00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 2: in the scandals as the fifth food. You got the roads,

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Speaker 2: how the road's doing now great?

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Speaker 1: You got?

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Speaker 2: You got the snow, the snow removal, the not good?

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Speaker 2: You got the public safety. Youre feeling safe downtown these.

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Speaker 6: Days record homicides under Joehawks.

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Speaker 1: And then and then the trash.

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Speaker 2: And I can't speak to the trash, but you have

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Speaker 2: experience with the trash. How is the trash about as

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00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 2: good as the crime? Oh, so there you go.

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Speaker 1: It's a zero for four. What do they call that?

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Speaker 6: The golden sombrero? And a Major League baseball player goes

715
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Speaker 6: oh for four with four strikeouts, It's called the golden sombrero,

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Speaker 6: Joe Hawk said, is the golden sombrero of mayors.

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Speaker 5: Of maj Now you had mentioned Washington Street, and that's

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Speaker 5: the street I would typically take to get from my

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Speaker 5: house to the radio station.

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Speaker 3: Many detours under construction.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so I got to go a different route and

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Speaker 5: take Michigan Now to get into work, and of course

723
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Speaker 5: everybody is taking the detour, so there's a huge backup.

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Speaker 5: Yesterday on my windo work, I landed right on the

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Speaker 5: train tracks and I sat there and I looked both ways.

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Speaker 3: This is not good. This is not good.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna be somebody show prepp.

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Speaker 3: I really hope these cards start moving.

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Speaker 6: I've always said, when my time comes, what is time

730
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Speaker 6: for me to meet my maker? I hope it's such

731
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Speaker 6: a wacky, crazy death that I'm somebody's show prep. I

732
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Speaker 6: want to pay it forward for all the years that

733
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Speaker 6: I've had ridiculous stories given to me. I want to

734
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Speaker 6: be somebody's ridiculous street.

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Speaker 3: Did you do it naked? So at least you can't

736
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Speaker 3: due to the news.

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Speaker 1: That's me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So you got your Colts shirt on. The Colts

739
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Speaker 2: kick off the preseason tonight. Are you excited about the Colts?

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Speaker 1: Give me an honest assessment of the team this year.

741
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Speaker 1: Not good.

742
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Speaker 6: I placed a future bet that the Colts would finish

743
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Speaker 6: third in the division. I got plus money on that,

744
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 6: plus two point fifty for them to finish in third place.

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Speaker 2: So they got to beat one of the teams but

746
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Speaker 2: lose to two others.

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Speaker 6: Right, So I feel like the Texans will be one Yep.

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Speaker 6: The Jags, if healthy, are two wow, followed by the Colts,

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Speaker 6: and then the Titans with a rookie quarterback. So if

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Speaker 6: the Colts finish in third place in the AFC South,

751
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Speaker 6: as a Colts fan, not gonna like it. But as

752
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Speaker 6: a gambling degenerate, I'm gonna make some money.

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Speaker 2: So you got no faith obviously in Richardson, and then

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Speaker 2: no faith in the in the in the backup Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 2: the high priced guy they brought in to be the

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Speaker 2: back My.

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Speaker 6: Options are a guy that tapped out of a game,

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Speaker 6: because he was tired and a guy that couldn't start

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Speaker 6: for the Giants. This is where my fandom has met

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Speaker 6: across roads. Right Like man in the past, I'd be

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Speaker 6: so excited for tonight. Hey, first Colts game. I know

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Speaker 6: it's preseason garbage, but at least for the first ten minutes,

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Speaker 6: I'm going to be excited. I think maybe I'm still

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Speaker 6: a little heartbroken from the Pacers, like the Game seven,

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Speaker 6: with the injury and the way that it happened hasn't

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Speaker 6: sat well with me. Yeah, I'm having a hard time

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Speaker 6: getting over this breakup. But uh man, yeah, I'm just

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Speaker 6: not feeling this quarterback situation. I think it's the worst

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Speaker 6: quarterback room in the league. And keep in mind the league.

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Speaker 2: Has the Cleveland Browns on it, so you're you have

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Speaker 2: no faith that that's just gonna click with this dude

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Speaker 2: this year with all these tools we've heard about Richardson

773
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Speaker 2: and blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: You have no faith that this is this is the year.

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Speaker 6: I don't now.

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Speaker 1: I he proves me wrong.

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Speaker 6: If he proves me wrong, I will come on here

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Speaker 6: and say, hey, I was wrong, man, that Richardson kid

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00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 6: figured it out. But I follow a lot of sec football.

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Speaker 6: I'm a falls guy. Richardson could not pass in college.

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Speaker 6: He's got a cannon for an arm. He'll throw the

782
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Speaker 6: deep ball to alec peers and you guys are gonna

783
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 6: love it. But he can't move the chains on third down.

784
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Speaker 6: He can't read a defense. He can't make the basic

785
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 6: throws at least he can't as of his entire college

786
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Speaker 6: through pro career so far.

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Speaker 1: What are we doing this afternoon? What's going on? Man?

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Speaker 6: It is Bring the Heat Thursday on the Hammer In

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Speaker 6: Nigel Show. We've got Tommy larn We've got Rob Kendall. Wow,

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Speaker 3: All right, good stuff, Thank you. Hammer.

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