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Speaker 1: If you need longer than two weeks, you're not serious.

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Speaker 1: You're just not serious. So you've got Republican state senators

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Speaker 1: in Indiana, they revived a plan to reduce the early

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Speaker 1: voting period from twenty eight days to sixteen days for

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Speaker 1: the upcoming primary. It was added as an amendment to

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Speaker 1: a broader election bill. It's going to save money, it's

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Speaker 1: going to make the elections easier to manage. And again,

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Speaker 1: I go back to if you need twenty eight days,

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Speaker 1: what are you doing. How long does it take you

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Speaker 1: to vote? It takes a day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not running elections for convenience. We're running them

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Speaker 2: for integrity. And the pendulum always seems when it swings

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Speaker 2: too far one way, it always seems to eventually swing

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Speaker 2: back the other way. And what we saw during COVID

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Speaker 2: were pretty much anything goes. You want to mail in ballot, sure,

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Speaker 2: here's a big stack of them. Hand them out to

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Speaker 2: you your friends. You want to vote on something other

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Speaker 2: than election day. One will make it easier for you.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna open up all these You can vote any

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Speaker 2: time you want. It's election day, it's not election month.

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Speaker 3: This is just smart and sensible.

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Speaker 2: One of the few things that it seems like the

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Speaker 2: Republicans in the State House have done that is fairly

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Speaker 2: smart and sensible in this entire session there in the

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Speaker 2: middle of here, it just seems like common sense. And

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Speaker 2: for the people that are pushing back on this, they

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Speaker 2: come across as as just the lunatic, unhinged left.

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Speaker 1: So the people that are pushing back are the Democratic

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Speaker 1: state senators, and they're saying that this could lead to

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Speaker 1: longer lines and make it harder for people, especially people

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Speaker 1: with busy schedules or transportation issues, to cast ballots. Guys, sorry, sorry,

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Speaker 1: if you have to take an hour or two to

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Speaker 1: go do this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're going to just see a lot

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Speaker 2: of people that are going to have very little sympathy

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Speaker 2: for this.

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Speaker 3: Look, we talk a lot about how.

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Speaker 2: Ideally the Republicans and Conservatives are the party of grown

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Speaker 2: ups and the Democrats are in the liberals of the

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Speaker 2: party of children, and children will push into you know,

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Speaker 2: try and get away with whatever they can until mom

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Speaker 2: and dad sits them down and says, Nope, you've had enough.

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Speaker 2: We're not doing this anymore. Things have gone too far.

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Speaker 2: It's time to button this up and shortening. And by

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Speaker 2: the way, We're going to see some cost savings on

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Speaker 2: this as well, an incredible amount of expense allowing people

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Speaker 2: to come into polling places for nearly a month and

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Speaker 2: have those polling places open and staffed and secure them.

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Speaker 3: This is just on every level common sense.

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Speaker 1: Not only that, but why would Indiana be an outlier

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Speaker 1: with a month long early voting period? The change would

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Speaker 1: bring us closer to the norm.

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Speaker 3: Well, again, this was back.

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Speaker 2: A lot of these changes were instituted under Eric Holcombe

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Speaker 2: and during COVID when he pretty much abbed dedicated any responsibility.

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Speaker 2: Are you surprised anything for any leadership on all issues?

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Speaker 2: He basically did whatever the you know, the people in

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Speaker 2: the House and the Senate in the State House wanted

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Speaker 3: And these were policies that were pushed during.

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Speaker 2: COVID, and they weren't right during COVID, But now that

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Speaker 2: COVID's over, they're certainly right now and it's well past

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Speaker 2: time to make these changes.

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Speaker 1: So this bill is not going to go to the

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Speaker 1: full Indiana Senate, and if it's passed and approved, the

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Speaker 1: shorter early voting period would take effect this spring. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so what are we doing with the penny?

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Speaker 3: Are we rounding up?

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Speaker 1: Are we rounding down something that your lawmakers are currently

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Speaker 1: working on statewide rules for penny rounding because stores are

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Speaker 1: running out of pennies, this after the US Mint has

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Speaker 1: stopped making them.

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Speaker 2: I talked about this when we did this story last year,

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Speaker 2: and the US MINT said, Hey, we're no longer doing pennies,

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Speaker 2: We're no longer going to make pennies. They're eventually going

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Speaker 2: to all go away, and I brought up the issue.

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Speaker 3: What do you do now?

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Speaker 2: Look, this is this is not a huge issue. You know,

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Speaker 2: whether you're getting two cents in change or no change

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Speaker 3: But it is an issue, and I.

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Speaker 2: Don't know what the right answer is on this, other

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Speaker 2: than I would it would just seem easier that if

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Speaker 2: But then it gets screwed up because you got a

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Speaker 2: seven percent tax. So they're going to have to do

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Speaker 2: math on all of this and reverse engineer it and say, well,

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Speaker 2: if I've got this price not math. If I've got

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Speaker 2: this priced item priced at twenty three dollars and the

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Speaker 2: state sales tax is seven percent, and I do that,

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Speaker 2: then I really need to price this at twenty three

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Speaker 2: dollars and two cents so that the final price is

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Speaker 2: an even five so we don't worry about pennies. This

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Speaker 2: is a problem, and I don't know what the answer

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Speaker 2: and solution to it is.

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Speaker 1: What did the retailers say, groups like the Indiana Retail

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Speaker 1: Council and also the Indiana Chamber of Commerce. They want

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Speaker 1: rounding to happen after the totals and tax are added,

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Speaker 1: so it's fair and simpler at the checkout. They also

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Speaker 1: want flexibility so businesses can round up or round down.

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Speaker 1: See now that's where I have the issue. Make it consistent.

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Speaker 1: Pick one. You're either going to round up or round down.

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Speaker 1: It shouldn't be just whatever the business wants.

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Speaker 3: But that's part of the problem.

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Speaker 2: Is what the government's put us in this position is

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Speaker 2: that they eliminated the penny, but then gave no other

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Speaker 2: legislation or details about how to manage this situation, and

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Speaker 2: so it is going to be a free for all

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Speaker 2: because right now there's no controlling authority on this. There's

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Speaker 2: no government laws or regulations that say really anything associated

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Speaker 2: for all. It is going to be whatever that specific

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Speaker 2: people are going to the people that pay with cash

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Speaker 2: are going to put up a stink on this and

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Speaker 2: we're going to have to figure something out. The other

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Speaker 2: interesting part is, you know, we always talk about how

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Speaker 2: fast things are changing and how previous generations. You talk

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Speaker 2: to a kid today about a record player, and they're like,

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Speaker 2: what are you talking about?

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Speaker 3: What the heck's a record player.

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Speaker 2: This means that to give a penny, take a penny

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Speaker 2: tray will become and is now obsolete, and it'll be

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Speaker 2: a thing in the past, and twenty years from a nickel, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: a nickel take it. Twenty years from now, we'll be

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Speaker 2: telling our kids or grandkids about my day. There used

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Speaker 2: to be a thing called give a penny, Take a penny,

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Speaker 2: and you would leave change, and if you were short

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Speaker 2: look at you and like, what are you talking about?

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Speaker 2: What's a penny?

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Speaker 1: It's funny you mentioned the record player. We were with

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Speaker 1: were staying. Actually had to teach a nephew how to

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Speaker 1: drop the needle on the record.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: By the way, these were people in their late twenties. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they were in their late twenties and they were and

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Speaker 2: we had to explain how a record was a B

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Speaker 2: side right, that you flipped it over right, and that

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Speaker 2: what the grooves meant.

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Speaker 3: And they were like, well, how do you start it

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, look, if you look carefully, you

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Speaker 2: can see these little gaps in the grooves. That's each

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Speaker 2: individual song, and if you want to skip ahead three songs,

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Speaker 2: then you had to count three gaps in and then

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Speaker 2: put the needle on the record player there. They were

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Speaker 2: absolutely dumbfounded by it.

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Speaker 1: Well, and then they thought it was kind of cool

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Speaker 1: because they were playing with it. Later on it sounded terrible,

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Speaker 1: by the way, that was a bad needle.

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Speaker 2: I think that was the other part we had to

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Speaker 2: explain to these these people that were in their late

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Speaker 2: twenties that yeah, yeah, records were a problem because they

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Speaker 2: would get dust and they would get scratches on them,

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Speaker 2: and then the needle would skip and it would sound

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Speaker 2: like this, and they're like, well, well that's the Why

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Speaker 2: would you want that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Why would you This sounds terrible. I'm like, yeah, it

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Speaker 2: wasn't great. That's why we got cassette tapes and CDs

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Speaker 2: and now m.

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Speaker 1: B three No, everything's digital. So the proposed penny rounding rules,

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Speaker 1: they're scheduled for more discussion and votes in the Indiana House,

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Speaker 1: and if passed, new rules, whatever they decide, will take

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Speaker 1: effect in twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna make a little bit of a prediction here.

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Speaker 3: What's that on this?

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Speaker 2: Whatever they decide, it'll end up screwing the consumer. Here's

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Speaker 2: what I'm gonna I'm gonna guess on this.

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Speaker 3: Of course they will. They'll the state legislature are round up.

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Speaker 3: If it doesn't happen in this state.

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Speaker 2: Not only are they gonna round up, but they're gonna

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Speaker 2: find a way to get that round up money for themselves.

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Speaker 2: Who gets the round up? Is it the retailer? I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna guess it's gonna go, and it's gonna be the state.

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Speaker 1: Well, because down at the register will cost the state

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Speaker 1: one point eight million dollars so in in sales tax revenue,

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Speaker 1: So of course they're gonna round up.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna round up. So not only will they get

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Speaker 2: the extra sales tax revenue on the round up, but

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess they're gonna try and find a way

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Speaker 2: to that those extra couple of pennies end up in

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Speaker 2: the state coffers as opposed to somebody else's also

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Speaker 1: Known as a surplus, which we've got one right now.