1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, We're We're all going to be so poor, Casey, 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: We're going to be We're all just going to be 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 1: so so poor. Uh, it's a kittle a Casey show, 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: a Rob Casey's here. I just like I read the 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: news now, and you know, one of the things that's 6 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: fascinating to me is that people are very critical of 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: the Indie Star, especially on our side of the aisle right, 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: because their opinion pieces tend to be very liberal. Now 9 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: they've brought Jacob Stewart in, who we've had in our 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 1: program multiple times, who worked for the Republicans in the Senate, 11 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: who is a much more right voice than what they've 12 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: previously had. But here's what I tell people about the 13 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: Indie Star. We are all invested, We as regular people, 14 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: are all invested in as many outlets covering state and 15 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: local government as possible, and we should all be cheering 16 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: for them to succeed. Because, first of all, so what 17 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: the Star's liberal? What do the Republicans in this state 18 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: give you to cheer for what's happening out there that 19 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,559 Speaker 1: you're like, these guys are doing a hell of a job. 20 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: Your taxes have never been higher. Correct, the government has 21 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: never been bigger. The horizon of said taxation has never 22 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: been more bleak. The crony capitalism is at a level 23 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: we have never seen before in that State House. You 24 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: are getting sold out on a regular basis. So first 25 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: of all, what are you concerned about? Anyway? What that 26 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: these do gooders in the State House are going to 27 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: be painted in a negative light. But we need as 28 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: many boots on the ground as possible to tell you 29 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: how these guys in the State House are pulling shenanigans. 30 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: And the Indie Star in terms of their straight reporting, 31 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: people like Haley Colombo do a phenomenal job Kayleb Dwyer, 32 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: et cetera of digging into information and whether it's the 33 00:01:55,600 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: Capitol Chronicle or the Star or Mere Indie or whoever 34 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: it is, or these you know, the citizen journalists people, 35 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: certainly guys like Indie Reporter. We need all of them 36 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: to be thriving and moving in the same direction to 37 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: expose what's going on. And the Star did this again yesterday. 38 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: The Star does this a lot. 39 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: I don't think that. 40 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 1: I think there's people just failed to realize is their 41 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: straight reporting is oftentimes excellent in terms of exposing what's 42 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: going on, of course things. It was Republicans. Democrats don't 43 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: control anything like I think the Stars going a fine 44 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: job of you know, they don't ask forhawks that was 45 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: during the riots. They don't want to touch that. But 46 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: whether it's the Thomas Carl Cook stuff or whatever they've 47 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: delved into that, they've given us more information certainly than 48 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: that that goofy report that the city did. And yesterday 49 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: Marissa Mater had the report another phenomenal job of journalism 50 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: talking about what a bunch of cheap prostitutes our lawmakers 51 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: are and how they will sell you out for a 52 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 1: couple of meal and some tickets to some places, I 53 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: mean dinner. This is absolutely so. I will read you 54 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: the headline before we get into it. Energy lobby ramped 55 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: up spending on meals and gifts for lawmakers amid push 56 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: for nuclear It worked. Now what we're talking about is, 57 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: and we have we have harped on this for months now. 58 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: How Mike Braun and the Indiana General Assembly with a 59 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: guy named Ed Soliday leading the church. By the way, Soliday, 60 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: you'll remember his name. He's the state rep who threatened 61 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: that mayor of Portage Austin Bonta because Bonta had come 62 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: out as the mayor and said, Hey, these utility bills 63 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: for our local energy company are totally out of control. 64 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: I'm hearing from these people. We got to make changes 65 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: with how we're doing this. We've got to make change 66 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: with the the I U r C. And that Ed 67 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:55,119 Speaker 1: Soliday I can't say that. That Ed Soliday guy sent 68 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: him a text message that Bonta put up on social media. 69 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: We had him on the show, which basically said, you 70 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: better get in line, buddy, or I'm gonna make sure 71 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: your city doesn't get any extra money going forward. Correct, 72 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: You're deal with the mafia at this point. These guys, 73 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: these lawmakers, they are the mafia. Dense well, I's gonna say. 74 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: And the guys like at Soliday are at the tip 75 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: of the spear on this in terms of they believe 76 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: there you know what, don't stink. Yeah, they believe they 77 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: can do whatever they want to do. You're lucky that 78 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: you have people like them lording over you. And boy howdy, 79 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: does this article from the Indie Starge show just how 80 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: gross these people are. 81 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 2: So we should get into it some of the details 82 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 2: about this. Because the energy lobby, they ramped up their 83 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 2: spending on meals and gifts for these people right as 84 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 2: the time they were discussing SMRs. 85 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: So SMRs are small modular reactors. They are a new 86 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: They are a way of providing nuclear power, which the 87 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: state now recognizes they have to do because they've sucked 88 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: up all the previously known ways of getting electricity to 89 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: people because they're giving them away to data centers and 90 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 1: mega corporations. And so what the legislature did, along with 91 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: the blessing from Governor Braun, who lied, you know, bron 92 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: seems to have a problem with the truth. Casey, have 93 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: we touched on that before in this program. Now it 94 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: could be the dementia. It could be that he's he's 95 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: in the early stages of some sort of intense mental decline. 96 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: We don't know, but Broun seems to have trouble remembering 97 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: what he's told people, whether it was fight fight fight 98 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: at the property tax rally or that he wasn't going 99 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: to let the utility bills go up. This governor's got 100 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: a real problem with the truth. So what they signed 101 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: into law is the ability for the utilities to essentially 102 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: become doctor Frankenstein and do all this unproven testing with 103 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: these SMRs, which they have to do now because they've 104 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: given the farm away to these data centers and these 105 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: other mega corps and megabuildings that require all this power 106 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: and they know they're running out. They're going to allow 107 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: these utilities to essentially doctor Frankenstein nuclear energy, and if 108 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: it fails, you still pay the tab as the user. 109 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: If it succeeds, you pay the tab. But the big 110 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: thing is if it doesn't work, which there's no track 111 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: record of this working, by the way, it's not something 112 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: like we can point to all these places where it's done, 113 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: all this great stuff, which is why they needed it 114 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: in the bill. This was the key the energy lobby 115 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: needed in the bill that if their technology, if they're experimenting, fails, 116 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: you the user, you, the consumer of electricity, will still 117 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: pay the bill. 118 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 2: Right, So they're providing these tax credits for these SMR 119 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 2: manufacturers and who is it on the back of you, 120 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 2: dear friend you. 121 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: So The Star did a fabulous deep dive on how 122 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: much money the energy lobby spent and really where they 123 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: targeted their expenditures, and primarily it rested it. One of 124 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: the top guys was this Ed Soliday, mister Don Corleone 125 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: himself over there trying to strong arm local mayors who 126 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: question ever rising utility costs. Now that's crushing their constituents. 127 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: And boy did they spend a boatload of money. 128 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 2: Casey yeah, Indiana, Michigan Power and the Indiana Energy Association. 129 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: You ready for this. They spent over eighteen thousand dollars 130 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 2: each on meals and gifts. Duke Energy spent two hundred 131 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 2: and fifty thousand dollars on legal lobbying, was a top 132 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: campaign donor, by the way, to Senator Eric Kunch. 133 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: So what the what the lawmakers will tell you about 134 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: the lobby the lobby stuff is and by the way, 135 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: the lobbyist stuff should be. Well, we'll get to that. Say. 136 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: What they will tell you is we need these guys 137 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: because we're a part time legist. Now, these dudes make 138 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: like seventy five grand a year to be part time legislators. 139 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: So it's going to cost you so much when they 140 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: have the special session, you got pay them to come back. Now, 141 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: what they'll tell you is an excuse, though, is O 142 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: me so stupid? 143 00:07:59,080 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 3: Me? 144 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: No? No, no, I have no idea. Me need lobbyists 145 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: to tell me what's going on? Because they're experts. Okay, great, 146 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: What does a five course meal at a fine restaurant 147 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: or tickets to your favorite sporting event or concert have 148 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: to do with informing you of a topic? 149 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: Right? 150 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: That is not about giving you information. That is legalized bribery. 151 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: That's exactly what that is. It is legalized bribery. Where 152 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: these dudes these interests, and it happens with all these 153 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: Yes we're talking about we're talking about power right now, 154 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: but these dudes dole out the stuff to get the lawmakers. 155 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 1: They can't hand them a bag of cash, right because 156 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: that's illegal. And this is how they get around it. 157 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: They buy them meals, they give them tickets to stuff. 158 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: That's how this works. 159 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 2: Yes, so they are subject matter experts. There's me's but 160 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 2: they also like to give dinners and sport tickets and 161 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: private meals away. 162 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: So it's a long article. It's very well written, it's 163 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: very well sourced. It tells you. I mean, we could 164 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: spend a whole we could spend a whole hour talking 165 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: about this, and we're not going to do that because 166 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: we've got a lot of other ways in which you're 167 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: going to end up very poor to tell you about. 168 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: But you are going to pay more. There is no 169 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: if sands or butts about it. You are going to 170 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: pay more for your utility, for your power to your 171 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: home because these lawmakers have sold you out. You're going 172 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: to pay more for a variety of reasons. Number One, 173 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 1: you're going to pay more because our state is allowing 174 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: sometimes foreign, sometimes domestic megacorps to come in and take 175 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: your power. They're going to take they're allowing them to 176 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 1: use it all so that there's not going to be 177 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: enough left to power your home. Everybody's admitting this at 178 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 1: this point. That's where we're headed. And what we're about 179 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: to talk about. What we are about to talk about 180 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: very Austin powers of me there. What we're going to 181 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: talk about next is how they're not stopping like they 182 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: know this is going on. They know what the data 183 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: centers are doing, and they are not stopping. Ye in 184 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: order to keep this little well con such a strong word, right, 185 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: case or Ponzi scheme is such a strong word, right, 186 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: we won't use words like that in order to keep 187 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: this little game going. In order to keep this up, 188 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: they have to get more power, Yes, they have to 189 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: in order to take because what they're doing is they're 190 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: taking money from you, the taxpayer, and they're using that 191 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: money to facilitate the development of these megabuildings, the data centers, 192 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: these mega corporations, blah blah blah. But what they can't 193 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: get around is that everybody's going to run out of power, 194 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: and so they have to charge you more for the 195 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: power for these people to have free ride again is 196 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: such a strong word, but a free ride than regular people. 197 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: And in order to do that now they claim they 198 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: got to go to the super experimental technology. And these 199 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: lawmens makers are so weak and they're such cheap prostitutes 200 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: that for a few meals, for a few tickets, they're 201 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: willing to say something is stupid as sure, we'll put 202 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: our rate payers on the hook. We'll put our taxpayers 203 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: on the hook whether you succeed or not. Can you 204 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: name me any other business model, casey, where the business 205 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: doesn't have to produce the product and everybody else still 206 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: have to pass for everybody else. 207 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not just power, it's also water that we're 208 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 2: going to see a strain on and we're going to 209 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 2: hear from the former IEDC president and what he reveals. 210 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 2: We talked about it yesterday, Yes Franklin Township Data Center. 211 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 2: Guess what, that's just one of many coming We'll talk 212 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 2: about it more coming up. It's ninety three WIBC. 213 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: Sure it does. One of the ten greatest sons of 214 00:11:54,800 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 1: all time KENNELU Casey show. The theme of today's pro 215 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: is you're going to be so poor and your government 216 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: is I think they're okay with it. Well, I think 217 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: that's what's so frustrating about all of this is if 218 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: you look at the past five or six years, everything 219 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: that's happened is the responsibility of the government. You can 220 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: rest it at the government. Why is everything so expensive now? 221 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: Why is inflation because of government? Because they shut down society, 222 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: which they didn't need to do. They printed a bunch 223 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: of money to make you think that shutting down society 224 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't disrupt your daily existence. And they're still doing it. 225 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: And then once you print the money and you throw 226 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: it at people, it becomes the baseline for everything. And 227 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: now you look at how our states, many of the 228 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: states have responded to that, and look, we have entered 229 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: the Republicans have always been pretty bad here in Indiana, 230 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: but the past five or six years we have entered 231 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: a new frontier of crony capitalism, of shady behavior, of 232 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: selling you out to the high bitter, and they don't 233 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: care what you think anymore. It's it's like I was 234 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: thinking about this yesterday, ten fifteen years ago. You could 235 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 1: rally a lot of people and you could stop stuff. 236 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: Now they were still trying to pull shenanigans. They were 237 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: still trying to pull some bull crap at the state 238 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: and local level, but you could stop it. As the people, 239 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 1: the property tax people proved at all. I don't even 240 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: care anymore. It doesn't matter how many people you bring 241 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: to the state House. See one thousand people from the 242 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: property tax rally, right, it doesn't matter. Look at the 243 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 1: people that flooded in on the Thomas Carl Cook stuff 244 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: at the at the here in Marion County with the 245 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: city of Indianapolis. And now you're seeing it with these 246 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: data centers. And I know we talk a lot about 247 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: data centers, but you people better wake up, you people 248 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: that are hearing this right now, and we look. I 249 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,719 Speaker 1: care enough to tell you this directly because I love you. 250 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: I care enough to be just sound like this, because 251 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: I care about you and your family's future. Everybody better 252 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: wake the hell up because these these dystopian looking monstrosities 253 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: serve nothing but the masters that own them. They don't 254 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: serve you at all. They're not invested in your community. 255 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: The giveaways that they're getting means they won't contribute to 256 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: your community until, in some cases, long after you're gone. 257 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: I don't mean to sound crass, not gone out of 258 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: the community, like gone. 259 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 2: Out of this earth. 260 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: These are politicians and political people who are ramming these 261 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: things through because at best, the best logical reason they're 262 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: ramming them through the best case innar, because we always 263 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: want to put the best face on something. Casey, is 264 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: it looks good at a ribbon cutting? Look at this 265 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: bright shiny object that's been resurrected. 266 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 2: What do you think these meetings and discussions are like? 267 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 2: Is it like, ah, you know what, Just make the 268 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 2: peasants pay for it. Here, try the steak, have another 269 00:14:55,160 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 2: glass of wine. Because honestly, the day that House Bill 270 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 2: one thousand and seven was passed, the same day Duke 271 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 2: Energy paid ed Soliday a sixty seven dollars meal. 272 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: That was the SMR bill, right, yeah, and look Salliday's 273 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: out the other one, Cock Coke, what's his name? Cock 274 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: Coach coach Cock Senator coach with the Stars that he 275 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: got on like fifteen grand yeah, something like that in giveaways. 276 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,359 Speaker 1: Basically according to the Indie. 277 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 2: Star, Yeah, Soliday received nine hundred dollars worth of meals 278 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 2: from these energy. 279 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: So I mean it's on the House and the Senate side, right, So. 280 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 2: What is that like? Seriously like, oh, yeah, here's an idea, 281 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 2: make the taxpayers pay for it. 282 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: No, no, here and let's let's I want to play 283 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: this though, let's play. So there's another one going in 284 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: Franklin in Yep, we talked about the Franklin Township and 285 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: we've got the aught. Do we have the audio. 286 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 2: Of uh the former IDC president Schallenger? Yep. 287 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, so he was pushing this. There was mass public 288 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: opposition to this. People showed up in droves because the 289 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: public is where what these data centers are that they're 290 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: going to force everyone if you can even get power 291 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: in the future, because if the power goes down, you 292 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: think they're gonna tell the data centers. You think they're 293 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: gonna tell Google, which is what this one is. Hey, 294 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: sorry Google, your sol No, it's gonna be you. It's 295 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: gonna be you, the consumer, the resident that is gonna 296 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: get screwed, both in your pocketbook and if you can 297 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: even get power. So despite mass public opposition, which is 298 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: who the government is supposed to serve, they're not supposed 299 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: to serve Google, They're not supposed to serve the IEDC 300 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: or any of these other economic local economic development arms. 301 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: They're supposed to serve you. I go to these meetings 302 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: all the time, and I see mass public opposition to things, 303 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: not like, hey, there's ten really loud people and they 304 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: don't represent the public. Like I know when the public 305 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: is behind something or they don't care whatever. But I 306 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: see this more and more mass public opposition. And these 307 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: people on these boards and commissions they just sit there 308 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: and stare at these people and then do the exact opposite. 309 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: They're not serving the public anymore. They're serving special interest. Here. 310 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: What's the guy's first challenge? Jim Challenger? Thank you. He 311 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: used to be the head of the ADC. He's down 312 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: on some. 313 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 2: Other he's the president's CEO of Indie Economic Development. Thank you. 314 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: Boy. That just sounds like an evil organization in a 315 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: Batman movie, doesn't it. Here is him telling the people 316 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: of Franklin Township, you're going to have this data center 317 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 1: and you're going to like it. 318 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 3: This is cutting edge technology. This is the first of 319 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 3: many that are going to happen. You are going to 320 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 3: be hearing many of these, as is every single metropolitan 321 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 3: Development commission all around the country are going to be 322 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 3: hearing these because this is the future and his technology 323 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 3: that we need to do the things that help our 324 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 3: lives and help us to exist. Cutting edge technology that 325 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 3: if the questions get answered, then they get answer to 326 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:03,479 Speaker 3: somebody's satisfaction. Just might take a city like Indianapolis, in 327 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 3: a township like Franklin Township and put us on the map. 328 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: Is okay? Pause, that's really important. Okay, Two things. One, 329 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: he said the first of many. Right, so they're coming, 330 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: which we know there's one going in Lebanon, they're trying 331 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: to get one out in Martinsville. There's I mean, they're 332 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: all over the place, right, But he said, a couple 333 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: things that we need to address here real quick. One, 334 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,479 Speaker 1: if the KEP, can you play the final I don't know, 335 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: twenty seconds of that'll probably be enough cutting. 336 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 3: Edge technology that if the questions get answered, then they 337 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 3: get answer to somebody's satisfaction. Just might take a city 338 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 3: like Indianapolis in a township like Franklin Township and put 339 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 3: us on the map. 340 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: Okay, pupa up of us and we're gonna run just 341 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: a little long. Jared Lewis, thank you very good. See 342 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: he's so sweet. 343 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, he's easy. 344 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: Kurt Darling was so mean about that. Sure, it's so understanding. 345 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: All right. First of all, you're not answering the question 346 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: to the community's satis faction, mister Schellinger. That's who matters, 347 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: not not anybody but the community because they got to 348 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: live with it. They gotta deal with it. So clearly, 349 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: you don't give a damn about the communities questions being 350 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: answered because they're not getting the answer that they want. 351 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: And they're the taxpayers and they live there. So let's 352 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 1: let's let's address that first. The second thing, Indianapolis is 353 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,479 Speaker 1: good enough as it is, Like I mean, it's got 354 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: a lot of problems that. 355 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 2: We're gonna put it on the map. Yeah, which map. 356 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: We've had Super Bowls, we have the NCAA Final four, 357 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: we have professional sports teams, we have conventions, we have 358 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 1: gen Con What does that mean? Like people don't know 359 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: Indianapolis exists, Like because Google's data center is here that 360 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: people are gonna be. 361 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 2: Like, Oh, I haven't heard of you before. 362 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: That is that is like you need and this is 363 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: what's so insulting guys like that. You need us, You 364 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: need the elite to put you on the map. Your 365 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: life isn't good enough as that it is, Your life 366 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: as doesn't have meaning. You need us to give you meaning. 367 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: And it'll come through a lifeless, dystopian data center run 368 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 1: by one of the largest, most powerful corporations in the world. 369 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 2: Well, this is very much We're smarter than you, we 370 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 2: know better than you, so we're going to make all 371 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 2: the decisions for you. Oh and if you're not on 372 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 2: board with it, well we'll threaten you or ignore you. 373 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: I just god, you can't hate these people enough. What 374 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: do we do? Who can we hate on? Next? Hey, 375 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 1: somebody's got a crush on you. We got to talk 376 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: about this. 377 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 2: We're going to talk about that. Are you going to 378 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 2: talk about the poll you got on your phone? Oh? 379 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: We can talk about both of them. 380 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 2: It's Keathly Casey on ninety three WIBC. 381 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: Okay, So a dealer's choice. Do you want to do? 382 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about your new crush or 383 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: someone who has a crush on you? Or do you 384 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: want to talk about the poll that I got sent? 385 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 2: I want to talk about the poll that you got 386 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 2: sent first. 387 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, we can do that. That's fine. It's 388 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: the Kendling. 389 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 2: You know you wanted to go the other way. 390 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: No, I don't care. It's fine. We're gonna get to 391 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: all of it eventually. We got three hours to kill here. 392 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: By the way, Okay, a couple of It's Kennelly Casey show. 393 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 1: I'm Rob. That's Casey. A couple of programming notes coming 394 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 1: up at eleven. Doug Carter, former state police superintendent, is 395 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: scheduled to be with us. He is super super fired 396 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: up now about the some of these statements that have 397 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 1: been made by both the special prosecutor, the Braun administration, 398 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: and Tom Klinelter himself in the Tom Kleinhelter investigation. Of course, 399 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: those of you, most of you will recall this. It 400 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: has now gone state wide. We broke state wide news. 401 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: Nobody listens, but we broke state wide news. 402 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 2: What are you the most powerful? 403 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: That's right? Yes. I was once dubbed by Importantville The 404 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: Fabulous subscription based in Indianapolis, Indiana News magazine political magazine, 405 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: the most powerful broadcaster in the state of Indian The 406 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: Tom klin Held, Yes, the Tom Kleiner Helter investigation. He was, 407 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: he is the sheriff of du Bois County. He was 408 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 1: accused in an eighty page probable cause affidavit by the 409 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 1: State Police on a on a report from the State 410 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: Board of Accounts of misusing commissary money, amongst other things, 411 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: paid for his wife to go on what's some might 412 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 1: call lavish trips with him. And he is a very 413 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: close ally political ally of the governor. And then all 414 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 1: of a sudden, twenty twenty four became twenty twenty five 415 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: and Braun became the governor. And while I wouldn't you know, 416 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 1: the special prosecutor decided not to press charges despite an 417 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: eighty page probable cause affidavit. And then on top of that, 418 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: the decorated distinguished officer who investigated the case was punished 419 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: by the state Police and the new State Police superintendent. 420 00:22:54,600 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 1: And so we'll get into we'll get into all of that, car, 421 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: do we And yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, I know 422 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: many of you come here today. We will we will 423 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: talk about uh Micah's comments yesterday on Hammer and Nigel uh, 424 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: we we do have some some thoughts on those see case. 425 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: And I said this about Diego a while ago. Yes, 426 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: Diego Morales, Secretary of State, Thank you, thank you. Yes 427 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: better known as Grifters are us And. 428 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 2: We got to talk about him too, Indiana Secretary. 429 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: He's hiding, He's hiding the tiptoes. Now have you seen 430 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: how he's doctoring his photos? We talk about that later 431 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: up so much to get to Yes, boy, howdy the 432 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: the uh these people, I try to let it go, 433 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: like I I try to let things go. I try 434 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: to think I'm just gonna not talk about it anymore. 435 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna just let things play themselves out. And then 436 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 1: they make it where I have to talk about it again. Right, 437 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: all these people are You're so unfair? You do this, 438 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: you do that. I think I had been relatively silent 439 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: on this the past what week or so, and then 440 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: just kind of out of side, out of mind. And 441 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: then and then he he, he, being michae beck With 442 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: went on with Hammer and Nigel yesterday and he he 443 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: said some things that are inconsistent, as a lawyer might say, 444 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 1: inconsistent with the facts as we know them to be. Okay, 445 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: I thought we we we should definitely address that he's 446 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: going to do that on our on our airwaves. I 447 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: think we gotta address that. 448 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 2: I thought we were inaccurate. 449 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: Well, we'll get to all of that coming up in 450 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: a little bit, but first, Yes, the poll, the pull 451 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 1: the poll. Okay, So I don't you know me, I 452 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: fear the technology, uh, you know, and I don't Uh. 453 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: I don't participate in things with people that I'm not 454 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: very familiar with. I don't open the mail here at work, 455 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: and I would love to take a poll, a survey 456 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: of some sort. However, I'm not going to take a 457 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: survey if you send me a link and go click here, right. Like, 458 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: my wife works in this in the uh cybersecurity, that world, 459 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 1: and so it has been very ingrained in my head. One, 460 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: I'll always know where you were at at all times, 461 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: and don't click links on emails or anything else going to. 462 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 2: Get you on a phishing scam. 463 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: So I'd struggle with this because I really wanted to 464 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: take it, but I just it would go against everything 465 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: that I know to be decent and true, which is 466 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 1: I got a text message, a robo text. Maybe if 467 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 1: you will a little concerning I don't know how he 468 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: got my phone number. Because I've never really had a 469 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: personal conversation with this guy. I've never had any sort 470 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: of back and forth with him. We've never been, you know, 471 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 1: spending an evening in broad Ripple together or anything like that. 472 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 1: But somehow Todd Young got my phone number. Sure he did. 473 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: And this is this is what it said, casey, Okay, 474 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: it's Senator Todd Young. I want to know what issues 475 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: matter most to you. Take my quick Priority survey. 476 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 2: Today, okay. 477 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: And then it had a link on it. 478 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 4: So you know I love I love the surveys. Well, 479 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 4: look if you do them, well you do TikTok. You 480 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 4: do all these things if you want to open yourself 481 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 4: up and your phone to unknown agents across the not 482 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 4: just a fruited plane, but the world. 483 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 1: You you have at it now at the bottom of it. 484 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: Have said to stop. Does that mean I respond? 485 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 2: Stop stop to end? 486 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 1: It said stop to stop. 487 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that means if you type and stop, they won't 488 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 2: send you anymore. 489 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: What if I just respond, stop spending the money? Would 490 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: that work? 491 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 2: I don't know if he's going to get that message. 492 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: I mean, that would really be the survey. I don't 493 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: feel like I don't need to take the survey. I'm 494 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: gonna do the survey right now. Are you ready? Yes, 495 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: stop spending all the money. 496 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 2: You know, Todd Young, he was just in the Philippines. 497 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: Oh, is there a reason? Could we leave him there? 498 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 2: He said, during my recent trip to the Philippines, I 499 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 2: had the opportunity to fly with an outstanding Navy crew 500 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 2: on a P eight patrol aircraft. 501 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: Oh. 502 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 2: He was thrilled that they were carrying sonaboo is produced 503 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 2: by Hoosiers. 504 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: You know, it's too bad like they didn't you know, 505 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: maybe reenact the whole dB Cooper episode and just throw 506 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: him out the back of the plane. I mean, to 507 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: we want news, we'd want to give a parachute. We 508 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't want anything horrible. But you know, he's a big, 509 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 1: tough marine. Did you know Todd Young was in the Marines? 510 00:26:59,359 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: Did you know that? 511 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 2: I did, Kevin. 512 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: Did you know Todd Young he was a marine? 513 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 2: They heard that. Yeah. 514 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: I mean he doesn't like to talk about it, he 515 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: doesn't like to mention it, but yeah, he was in 516 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: the Marines. And so I think that would have been 517 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,959 Speaker 1: a fabulous thing for our military to do, is to 518 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 1: say we're going to reenact the whole dB Cooper saga, 519 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: We're going to throw you, mister tough rambo marine guy, 520 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: into the deepest, darkest jungle. Wee can find good luck 521 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: and we'll see if we see On the other side. 522 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 2: He doesn't mention why he was in the Philippines what 523 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 2: he was doing there, but he did thank Ultra Maritime 524 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 2: in Northeast Indiana, a leading supplier of undersea warfare products 525 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 2: for our navy. 526 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, so my survey is pretty simple, Duke of spending Berg. 527 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 2: Oh, you're not clicking it, are you? 528 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 3: No? 529 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 1: Why would I do that? Okay, I don't even know 530 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: if it's him. It's some phone number I don't recognize. 531 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: So you click links on phone numbers you don't recognize. 532 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 2: Yes, sometimes, Well, you know, I got a text yesterday 533 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 2: from Donald Trump? Did you save my number yet? Please? 534 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 2: I'm asking you nicely. 535 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: And you saved it. Did you put Trump? 536 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 2: You're well, I've clicked many of the he said Trump. 537 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 2: Will you rate my presidency and tell me what I 538 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 2: should do next? Just text me back reply below so 539 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 2: I can see. And I replied back grocery prices. 540 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: Oh, very good? And did somebody send you something back 541 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: the other way? Nothing? 542 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 2: I just got another one from him the next day. 543 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,719 Speaker 2: I'm on a list, you're on a list. 544 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: So he's a typical Uh, he's a typical man. He 545 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 1: just he's there for what he wants and really doesn't 546 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: care about your needs at all. Hey, why don't we 547 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 1: take a break? Went a little longer on that than 548 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: I anticipated. But somebody I think has a big old 549 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: crush on you, and I just. 550 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 2: Think we need to Can you blame him? 551 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: Well, you've seen me. I mean, you're wonderful, amazing in 552 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: so many ways. I just I think this needs to 553 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: be addressed with the audience. 554 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 2: All right, we'll get to it next on ninety three 555 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 2: w IBC. 556 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: Someone who's got the high. 557 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 2: It's for you as I don't know. 558 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: I think, so do you think? 559 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 3: So? 560 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: Well, there's a lot of messages we really want to 561 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: get on the air with us. Well, okay, so our 562 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: old pal mouthy Matt Mouthy Mat Gentry, the mayor of Lebanon. 563 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: He is messaging. He is a message storm with you, 564 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: and he's I think it's deep down he has a 565 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: crush on you and he just wants to get back 566 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: in your presence. But he's guising around. He wants to 567 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: come back on and explain leap to us. Right, he 568 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: keeps going. 569 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 2: It's memorable encounter like a year and a half, two 570 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 2: years ago. 571 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: Now for those who don't know, we call him Mouthy 572 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: Matt because we had him on. Look. We are we 573 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: are totally against. I think I can speak for Casey 574 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: on this. If not, you can certainly speak up and 575 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: say otherwise. But we are totally against the Indian Economic 576 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: Development Corporation. We believe it is a shadow government entity 577 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: designed to confuse you, the public at large, do not 578 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: know where your money's going, and enrich and emboldened very 579 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: connected powerful people who may or may not then in 580 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: the d turn around and help the politicians that just 581 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: helped them. Thing I said there that would be out 582 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: of bounce okay, and of the IEDC. While there are 583 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: many areas, which is why it's under a friends that audit, 584 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: by the way, and all sorts of questions about that, 585 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: don't just take our word for it. The governor was 586 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: concerned enough to enact a forensic audit, which is the 587 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: big audit of the IDC, the golden child of the 588 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: IDC or their non production. A lot of money going 589 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: out but not a lot to show for it is 590 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: this leap district, the big old innovation district in Lebanon. 591 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: And last year we had the mayor of Lebanon on 592 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: this program. Was it last year? The time it all 593 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: runs together. 594 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 2: Now longer than that. 595 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it may have been anyway, twenty three, twenty four. 596 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: It's all the same. When you got a two year 597 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: old at home, the days just smashed together. Case. We 598 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: had him on and I thought it was a fine 599 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: conversation where reasonable people could disagree, and we were very polite, 600 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: and he was did not leave in a hostage situation 601 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: or anything like that. As I recall all, I had 602 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: all his belongings and clothing and everything else that he 603 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: came in with. He was not malnourished or forced to 604 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: film a video recanting previous statements he'd made. I thought 605 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: he had a pretty good time. 606 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 607 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: So then, as we do with almost every interview, after 608 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: he left, we took a few moments to dissect the interview, 609 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: give our thoughts on it, and boy did he blow 610 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: a gasket on the. 611 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 2: Twitter discuss what was said during the interview. 612 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: He was very mouthy. Now, he was not a real 613 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: Johnny tough guy when he was in here with us, 614 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: but as soon as he got behind his Twitter account, 615 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: he started really turning into a billy badass, and thus 616 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: we dubbed him MOUTHI Magic. 617 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. So the Mayor and I got along swimmingly. As 618 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 2: he was leaving, I told him, I said, I really 619 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 2: think that you guys are going to need to hire 620 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 2: some sort of PR agency to help with this leap project, 621 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 2: because there are many people who are upset about it. 622 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 2: So take that advice, do with it what you want. 623 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 2: I don't believe they ended up hiring anybody. 624 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: Uh No, he's got it under control, which is why 625 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: he's begging to come on our program. 626 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 2: So yesterday or wait wait wait. 627 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: Wait wait, I feel we're gonna have for something. So 628 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: that's far despite well, we don't really know how many 629 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: millions of our dollars have been pumped into this sleep 630 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: disc Now. What we do know is they don't have 631 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: enough power, and we do know they don't have enough water, 632 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: which is why they're having to try to take water 633 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: from other communities. And we know they had to buy 634 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: power right from other outside sources, which reoccurring theme here. 635 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: You'll end up paying more so that all these things 636 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: that go to these bright shiny objects can have the power? 637 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: Is this a sensing a theme here today? Right right? 638 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: What we do know is that there's really only one 639 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: thing in the leap right now. Now. Other people have 640 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: pledged to go, and Facebook is said for how long? 641 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: Now they're going, And look, I don't really want Facebook 642 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: in my backyard, but they've they've said they're going. And 643 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: now there's a data center that's supposed to be going. 644 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: But thus far Eli Lilly is really it right now. 645 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's some other industry that's in 646 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: there that I'm not aware of, I haven't heard of. 647 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,959 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean it's not there. But Eli Lilly, who 648 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: were led to believe Eli Lily one of the biggest, 649 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: most powerful not just drug manufacturers, but corporations period in 650 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: the entire world. What did we like? Eight hundred billion 651 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: was their market cap the last time we hooked up. 652 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: They couldn't have completed a simple real estate transaction without 653 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: millions of dollars from you, the taxpayers of the state 654 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: of Indiana. That's really all all this Sun's right leap 655 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: has to show for itself right now. And so then 656 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: we heard about what was this? This was the Facebook 657 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: was coming in the data center, and we said, we 658 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: have some questions about this. 659 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, so Meta, Facebook's parent company, they plan to build 660 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 2: a four point eight billion dollar data center in the 661 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 2: Leap district. And the project's going to span fifteen hundred 662 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 2: acres and it's going to be developed over six different phases. 663 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 2: And the economic impact here is it's estimated to generate 664 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 2: eighty million dollars in property taxes for who, thirty million 665 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 2: in community impact payments over fifteen years. Expected to create 666 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 2: fifty to eighty jobs in phase one, up to two 667 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 2: hundred total. 668 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: After the full build out. Oh wait, wait, stop, star, 669 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: you're growing too much information out. Yeah, who's saying that? 670 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: Who's telling you that that's gonna be what it's gonna be? 671 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: Who's saying that? 672 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 2: Well, the article from WRTV is telling me that, but 673 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 2: from whom they're not, they're not. I'm assuming they're getting 674 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 2: it from Mayor Matt Gentry. 675 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: Uh huh. 676 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 2: He says the water deal is not going to increase 677 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 2: rates for local residents. Okay, so we had a lot 678 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 2: discussions about this. 679 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: Me he desperately wants to come on the program and 680 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 1: he won't address it. Well, I guess he kind of 681 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 1: has addressed me but he's really addressed. He's done this 682 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: before where he went at you to try to get 683 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: back on the show, and we had a conversation about it, 684 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: and I said, look, we already had the guy on. 685 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,800 Speaker 1: We gave him a shot. Then he got super mouthy 686 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: at us instead of just saying thanks for the airtime, 687 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: and he caused a giant headache. And what does he 688 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 1: do for us? Is he gonna let us come to 689 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: his world and give a speech? Do we get to 690 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 1: speak at the State Lebanon State of the City. What 691 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: this is not a mutual relationship here. We're not getting 692 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: anything out of this. Why would we have him back on? 693 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: I thought we made it very clear. You let us 694 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: speak at the State of the City, we'll let you 695 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: back into our world, right like if somebody invites you 696 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 1: over to their house, which we did one he was 697 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: an ass and was complaining about our cooking afterwards, and 698 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: then he never invited us over to his house, So 699 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: would why would we have him back over to our house? 700 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 1: I thought we made that very clear. He's not getting 701 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 1: the message. He's tweeting at you again. 702 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, he did. He sent us a note he said, hey, Casey, 703 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 2: I heard you and Rob have some questions about Meta's 704 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 2: plan for a four point eight billion dollar investment in Leap. 705 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 2: My offer to answer your questions and any other that 706 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 2: you have on or off the air still stands. Rob 707 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 2: has my cell number and you can email me. 708 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,800 Speaker 1: That's like saying we were going to let Ted Bundy 709 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 1: show us where the bodies were buried. Oh, it wasn't there. 710 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: There must have been nobody. No, of course you wouldn't 711 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 1: do that. You are not neutral, you are not independent. Hey, Mouthy, 712 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: here's what we want, an honest evaluation of how the 713 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: IEDC is blowing through our money. That's what we care about. 714 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: That's what we're interested in because all of this stuff 715 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 1: exists and is going to exist because the State of 716 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: Indiana took money from poor and middle class people and 717 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:13,280 Speaker 1: is pumping it in again reoccurring theme of the show today. 718 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: Some of the largest and most powerful corporations in the world. 719 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: And apparently your buddy, the governor, who your dad is 720 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: super tied into, shares that view with us, which is 721 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,959 Speaker 1: why he's ordered the forensic audit. Even the governor wants 722 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,240 Speaker 1: to know what the hell's going on. And yes, Mouthy, 723 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 1: your city is probably going to benefit your city is 724 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 1: probably going to do well if you don't care about 725 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 1: you know, history of communities or you know, taking care 726 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: of the land or what it's meant or feeding a 727 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 1: nation or all these other sort of things. If you're 728 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: fine with just tearing down beautiful farmland and putting up 729 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: lifeless bland, disgustingly dystopian buildings, all of this stuff will 730 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,439 Speaker 1: probably be fine. It's gonna be the property taxes pumped 731 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: back into the city of Lebanon. What the hell good 732 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 1: does that do for me? I don't live in Lebanon, 733 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:04,879 Speaker 1: and thank god I don't. 734 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 2: A lot of people are questioning whether Indiana is going 735 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 2: to gain enough in return from this investment, and you 736 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 2: had said who's getting who's getting the money from the 737 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 2: eighty million estimated gain in property tax These are the 738 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 2: questions that I would like to ask him and have 739 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 2: him answer. 740 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 1: So you would let Bundy go tell you where the 741 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 1: bodies were. Bundybee was still walking around as a free 742 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 1: man right now. If you'd have been in charge of 743 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,919 Speaker 1: that case, you can't. You can't let that hem. 744 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 2: You know what happens when we let people talk. 745 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no, here's the thing, though, he's got to 746 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: do something for us. We've already had him over to 747 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,760 Speaker 1: our house and he was a very rude house guest, 748 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: and he never invited us back to his house. So 749 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: I am totally against letting somebody come back to my 750 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,280 Speaker 1: house after they were a horrible house guest the last time, 751 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 1: until they prove that they've learned their lesson and they'll 752 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 1: mind their manners and they're willing to reciprocate the favor. 753 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 1: We want to speak, Mouthy Casey, and I want to 754 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: speak at the Lebanon State of the City. That's what 755 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,359 Speaker 1: we want. When you do that, then you can come 756 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: back on the program. 757 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 2: You're listening to Kennelly Casey. It is ninety three WIBC.