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Speaker 1: I mean TJ was complaining being thirty seconds late. Somebody
Speaker 1: somebody's jacking it up, making me two minutes late. My
Speaker 1: people expect me at six h five, not six oh seven.
Speaker 2: We have to do something about that, all right.
Speaker 1: So anyways, we've got some stuff we're gonna get into,
Speaker 1: and you know that I will take you behind the
Speaker 1: scenes like no one else in this station can, and
Speaker 1: very few people actually in this city can. When it
Speaker 1: comes to behind the scenes of media. I've been at
Speaker 1: the smallest levels, and I've been at the biggest levels,
Speaker 1: and everywhere in between. I've covered major major sporting events,
Speaker 1: major major political events, major major news events, and it's
Speaker 1: not to like sit here and pat myself on the
Speaker 1: back and govern my resume. But when I tell you
Speaker 1: things about the way things work behind this curtain, no
Speaker 1: one else can tell you about it, and I can.
Speaker 2: I've been in the middle.
Speaker 1: Of this for thirty years, like I said, from this,
Speaker 1: like it says in my ex bio, I've covered everything
Speaker 1: from six year old six year old championship swimming to
Speaker 1: the Olympics, and been in the middle of a war
Speaker 1: over there in Ukraine near the like right beside the
Speaker 1: front lines, interviewing people whose villages have been bombed out,
Speaker 1: and they call me breaking bray. This is going to
Speaker 1: be about breaking news and house sources. And this topic
Speaker 1: is very relevant because of what's going to be taking
Speaker 1: place in a couple of days with ancient Anthony Fauci
Speaker 1: and you know the the Covid Zar if you remember
Speaker 1: all that craziness where he said, you don't need a mask,
Speaker 1: you need a mask.
Speaker 2: You don't need a mask, you need a mask.
Speaker 1: So and there's a reason why, and I know that's
Speaker 1: a cliche now because everyone uses that term.
Speaker 2: There's a reason why this, there's a reason why this happened.
Speaker 2: There's a reason why that happened.
Speaker 1: Well, we now know the reason why Joe Biden gave
Speaker 1: Anthony Fauci immunity for basically twelve years, ten twelve years,
Speaker 1: whatever it was going back eight years, I guess, going
Speaker 1: back to twenty sixteen. So anything that Fauci did between
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, whatever it was in twenty twenty four Fauci
Speaker 1: cannot be prosecuted criminally for not only did he do
Speaker 1: that for some, but he did it for Anthony Fauci,
Speaker 1: and I believe he also did it to a couple
Speaker 1: of then congressmen like Adam Shift and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: who were clearly breaking US law the way they were
Speaker 1: doing things, like clearly breaking rules in the Constitution on
Speaker 1: the way to set things up, like truly, like it's
Speaker 1: not even it's not even a debate, because if they
Speaker 1: weren't breaking US law, then why would they need the
Speaker 1: pardon they get out of jail free card from Fauci
Speaker 1: dating back for ten years.
Speaker 2: So there's some things that I'm going to.
Speaker 1: Play for you, and I will apologize in advance if
Speaker 1: it sounds a little weird or a little muffled. And
Speaker 1: the only reason I'm saying that is is because T
Speaker 1: Mobile is experiencing a power outage nationwide.
Speaker 2: Yours truly is on T Mobile.
Speaker 1: And I I can't email certain audio.
Speaker 2: I can't email audio.
Speaker 1: So with that being said, I'm gonna have to try
Speaker 1: and play the audio over my phone because, as I
Speaker 1: just said, I can't email it. Well, Brent wi Fi, no,
Speaker 1: I get it. No, I understand what you're saying. That'd
Speaker 1: be a note. I've had SOS on my phone for
Speaker 1: over an hour, meaning the only thing you can do
Speaker 1: is reach out to nine to one one on your phone.
Speaker 1: That's the only thing you can do. Meaning your phone
Speaker 1: is in SOS mode, you can only call nine one one.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, oh, somehow mine just went through. I don't know how,
Speaker 1: but I think it did all right. That actually amazes me.
Speaker 1: So no, I don't want to play it here because
Speaker 1: I want to be able to get into it next
Speaker 1: segment and like not play for you now and then
Speaker 1: have to discuss it and then go, okay, well when
Speaker 1: we come back, we're going to discuss it. I actually
Speaker 1: wanted to be able to discuss it, and I may
Speaker 1: have Lonnie stop it at certain points so I can
Speaker 1: tell you.
Speaker 2: Some things that are going on.
Speaker 1: But what I am going to do is I'm going
Speaker 1: to take you behind the scenes of what it's like
Speaker 1: when you're dealing with sources, because the audio that I'm
Speaker 1: gonna play for you deals talks about that and things
Speaker 1: that Fauci did, things that he literally wrote in his diary.
Speaker 1: First of all, I was not aware that a sixty
Speaker 1: something year old man kept a diary.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it had.
Speaker 1: His little cover had unicorns on it and pink flowers.
Speaker 1: Not sure, not sure, little unicorns, flowers, rainbows, not sure.
Speaker 1: Sixty five year old man, twelve year old girl. Not
Speaker 1: quite sure, although he's about the size of a twelve
Speaker 1: year old girl. But oh my gosh, I got it back.
Speaker 1: I'm up to five g My cel service is back.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why my email finally just went through to Lonnie.
Speaker 2: There you go. How about them apples?
Speaker 1: It only took T Mobile, Nation's largest carrier, service to
Speaker 1: only an hour to get cell service, Thanks T Mobile.
Speaker 1: Shape that do I get a discount on my bill
Speaker 1: for not having mobile service for an hour? But I
Speaker 1: do want. Like I said, what I'm going to do
Speaker 1: is like sort of like a magician, you know, like
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things on YouTube now where magicians
Speaker 1: will tell you how tricks work. They've broken the code,
Speaker 1: so to speak, and show you certain things on how
Speaker 1: illusions work, magic trick works.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to do the same thing and take
Speaker 1: you behind the scenes and behind the curtain about dealing
Speaker 1: with sources, the dues and the don'ts, the ya's and
Speaker 1: the na's. Because my entire brand, my entire career has
Speaker 1: been built on breaking news. I've never been the guy
Speaker 1: that wants to write the nice, fluffy story about the
Speaker 1: one arm baseball player who's twelve years old, or the
Speaker 1: dog that can climb a tree whatever, Like I'm not
Speaker 1: mister touchy feely, oh human interest.
Speaker 2: No, that's never been me.
Speaker 1: From the onset, a coworker of mine at the Charlot
Speaker 1: Observer got laid off and fired because I was breaking
Speaker 1: stories on his beat and I'd been on the job
Speaker 1: six months and they're like.
Speaker 2: Dude, this has been your beat for a couple of years.
Speaker 1: It was this no name who knows nothing about journalism
Speaker 1: breaking all your stories and then they ultimately let him go.
Speaker 1: True story. I was twenty three years old. It's the
Speaker 1: Charlot Observer, and that's been my forte Some of the
Speaker 1: biggest stories I ever broke, or even when I was
Speaker 1: working at the Hickory Daily Record, and this would have
Speaker 1: been from ninety eight to two thousand and I broke
Speaker 1: a massive, massive story on Lenard Ryan athletics that wound
Speaker 1: up in the Washington Post and the Associated Press and
Speaker 1: other places I've that's I broke stories on the University
Speaker 1: of South Carolina and cheating that was going on with
Speaker 1: their football program under Holtz and under Steve Spurrier. Sports
Speaker 1: Illustrated even called me about it. So this has like
Speaker 1: been my whole thing. This is I've hung my hat
Speaker 1: on breaking stories my entire career. So when we come back,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take you behind the scenes a little bit.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pull back the curtain. You're gonna hear some audio,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna discuss the dudes and the don'ts. Going
Speaker 1: back to breaking good Brett Jensen, all right, so we're
Speaker 1: gonna jump straight into this.
Speaker 2: Okay, We're gonna jump straight into it.
Speaker 1: This is Megan Kelly earlier today talking about what's in
Speaker 1: Fauci's diaries.
Speaker 2: Again, I did not know grown.
Speaker 1: Men kept diaries, but okay, again, I don't know if
Speaker 1: they're pink with unicorns and rainbows on them, little flowers,
Speaker 1: but who knows. So Fauci keeping a diary, an actual diary,
Speaker 1: and making Kelly. Here's about two minutes of audio of
Speaker 1: making Kelly talking about what's in the diary.
Speaker 3: Dana Bash, who is featured there of CNN in April
Speaker 3: of twenty twenty one, after his Fauci's heated exchange with
Speaker 3: Ohio Representative Jim Jordan at a hearing, Fauci Dana bat
Speaker 3: Fauci wrote in his diary, Dana Bash sent me a text,
Speaker 3: and then he quotes the text. This is what a sad,
Speaker 3: little pathetic manny is who writes down their texts that
Speaker 3: they've received from people who are on television, just so
Speaker 3: they can keep them a note of how many famous
Speaker 3: people texted them. Dana Bash sent me a text quote,
Speaker 3: I just watched the whole Jordan thing again. You're a
Speaker 3: better man than I. Well, what do you mean, You're
Speaker 3: not a man? As our friend Wolf Blitzer said to
Speaker 3: me yesterday, no would have blamed you if you said, simply,
Speaker 3: mister Jordan, go yourself. So this is Dana Bash, who's
Speaker 3: still interviewing him on her show as though she's an
Speaker 3: objective newsperson, texting him this behind the scenes. Then there's
Speaker 3: Jake Tapper, he writes, had dinner over at Jake Tapper
Speaker 3: and Jen Tapper's home in DC. Terrific couple friendship building
Speaker 3: again so weird. Normal people don't behave like that unless
Speaker 3: they're users, right, which clearly he was. Then Tapper, the
Speaker 3: most revealing aspect of these pages, writes the Ran Paul Team,
Speaker 3: or how Fauci worked with compliant journalists to shape media narratives.
Speaker 3: On July twenty six, twenty twenty, while watching the Assistant
Speaker 3: Secretary for Health and a fellow member of the White
Speaker 3: House Task Force be interviewed on CNN's State of the Union,
Speaker 3: Fauci writes that the Assistant Secretary for Health was talking
Speaker 3: about testing with Jake pressing him quote. I gave Jake
Speaker 3: some questions to ask him, and then Tapper and he
Speaker 3: were making fun of Laura Ingram of Fox News. After
Speaker 3: my Laura Ingram hit Jake Tapper texted me saying, sarcastically, quote,
Speaker 3: hard to believe Laura Ingram went to Dartmouth, isn't it?
Speaker 3: All of us alumni are very proud. What the hell
Speaker 3: he's this is a federal official whom he should be
Speaker 3: cross examining and pressing and cynical love and pessimistic about
Speaker 3: that's what you get paid to do, now, Chum, chum,
Speaker 3: we dart with alum. Can't stand Laura Ingram. All of
Speaker 3: it is so stomach turning, all.
Speaker 4: Right, So there's a lot of to impact there, the
Speaker 4: whole uh, clearly, And let's not forget this all through COVID,
Speaker 4: let's not forget this.
Speaker 1: CNN was lying to you about a lot of things.
Speaker 1: How many of you remember that daring the whole COVID thing,
Speaker 1: CNN twenty four hours a day on the right hand
Speaker 1: side of that, I believe it was on the right
Speaker 1: hand side of the screen a strip they went from
Speaker 1: the top of the screen to the bottom of the
Speaker 1: screen like a rectangle.
Speaker 2: They had, and a.
Speaker 1: Running total of the world death count and the US
Speaker 1: death count for months months like it was the US
Speaker 1: stock market, and constantly updated total because they were trying
Speaker 1: to scare the Holy but Jesus out of you, right,
Speaker 1: that's all they were trying to do. Never leave your house,
Speaker 1: make sure that your two month old gets vaccinated like
Speaker 1: all that crap, right, Never let your children breathe on
Speaker 1: anyone whatever like. That's what they were up like. And
Speaker 1: they were the ones saying, basically, it wasn't a virus
Speaker 1: out of a laboratory.
Speaker 2: It was out of the wet market from a bat.
Speaker 2: Let's not forget all this.
Speaker 1: So now you've got two journalists playing buddy buddy, actually
Speaker 1: more than that, because I'm sure what Blitzer was right
Speaker 1: in the middle of it, playing ring around the rosie. Right,
Speaker 1: They're all having like a four way together between Wolf
Speaker 1: Dana It's not Dana, she spells it d a n
Speaker 1: a Dana Dana bash between Wolf Dana and Jake, Jake
Speaker 1: Tapper and Fauci. So when we come back, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: break everything down for you and the rights and the
Speaker 1: wrongs of sources. So now that you've heard the audio
Speaker 1: and everything that went on, I'm going to tell you
Speaker 1: the good and the bad, the right and the wrong
Speaker 1: that was taking place. With all that, Welcome back to
Speaker 1: breaking with Brad Jensen here on this.
Speaker 2: What are we going?
Speaker 1: Monday night, Monday night, beautiful Monday night. By the way,
Speaker 1: tonight might be a cigar night. I haven't smoked a
Speaker 1: cigar in about two three weeks Okay, so let's get
Speaker 1: back to this is this is the important part of
Speaker 1: the show. Okay, you're about to learn something that you
Speaker 1: do not know, and I will tell you this. Ninety
Speaker 1: five percent of the media in Charlotte they don't know
Speaker 1: this either. Okay, either a because they've never been in
Speaker 1: these situations or be either so young they don't they
Speaker 1: haven't experienced this yet. Sources, here's how they work. Obviously
Speaker 1: not all the time. It's about fifty to fifty. Okay,
Speaker 1: fifty percent of my info comes from people that I
Speaker 1: know that trust me. Fifty percent of my info comes
Speaker 1: from people I don't know, who could be just a
Speaker 1: listener like you who works at CMS or CMPD or
Speaker 1: up in Raleigh and would will send me some information.
Speaker 1: And then when they send me information, I try to
Speaker 1: verify it through my other long term sources. But if
Speaker 1: it turns out to be true, then okay, now I'm
Speaker 1: starting to be able to trust this person. But I've
Speaker 1: had multiple people reach out to me only because they
Speaker 1: know I'm on the radio and only because they know
Speaker 1: I break stories. And nobody knows who my sources are.
Speaker 1: Not even my bosses know who my sources are. That
Speaker 1: is a fact. That is a fact. So here's what
Speaker 1: I've told going back. God, it's amazing now twenty years
Speaker 1: actually more than not. Nineteen ninety nine was the first
Speaker 1: time I used this particular statement when I knew there
Speaker 1: was when there was a coach or a player, because
Speaker 1: this is when I was doing sports. But I use
Speaker 1: it to this day, this particular statement. I said the
Speaker 1: same thing when I was covering Clemson and I would
Speaker 1: see half the starting offensive line in the quarterback Charlie
Speaker 1: Whitehurst and all the running backs, like at the Esso
Speaker 1: Club or at Tigertown tavern, whatever, because Clemson's very small,
Speaker 1: and they'd see me and they like, oh crap, is
Speaker 1: Brett gonna write about us or report about us? And
Speaker 1: here's what I've told police officers, Here's what I've told
Speaker 1: like administrators, executives, politicians, here's athletes. Here's what I tell everyone.
Speaker 1: I don't care if you throw somebody through a bar window,
Speaker 1: don't care. I don't care if you're drinking. There's a
Speaker 1: chance that I'll even buy you a beer. But if
Speaker 1: you do throw someone through a window, I will only
Speaker 1: get involved, basically if they get.
Speaker 2: Hurt or if.
Speaker 1: The police get involved. And if the police get involved,
Speaker 1: I've got no choice. That's how it works. If the
Speaker 1: police get involved in something you do, even if I'm
Speaker 1: with you or happen to be in the same bar,
Speaker 1: but not with you. Once the police get involved, I'm
Speaker 1: reporting on it. I do not have a choice. So
Speaker 1: whatever you do, just don't get the police involved. If
Speaker 1: you get in a fight. It happens, people get in
Speaker 1: fights all the time. Don't get the police involved, and
Speaker 1: don't like knock the guy unconscious that the ambulance has
Speaker 1: to come, which is hard to tell an offensive lineman
Speaker 1: or a linebacker.
Speaker 2: So that's rule number one. Don't get the police involved.
Speaker 1: If you are a source of mind, if you're a
Speaker 1: friend of mine, I don't have a choice.
Speaker 2: At that particular point.
Speaker 1: Once you've gotten the police involved or you've sent somebody
Speaker 1: to the hospital, now I don't have a choice, and
Speaker 1: I will report on it. And I tell everyone that
Speaker 1: and they understand that, so they don't want to go, oh, Brett, man,
Speaker 1: I can't believe you're reporting on this. Man, I thought
Speaker 1: we were boys. Dude, you got the police involved, the
Speaker 1: hell do you want me to do? So that's number one.
Speaker 1: Number two, you know, with having dinner over at Jake
Speaker 1: Tapper's house, or texting back and forth with Dana Bash
Speaker 1: and Wolf Blitzer.
Speaker 2: I will text people.
Speaker 1: That I believe will be involved in a particular situation.
Speaker 1: We all remember the Oversight Committee hearing on Safety and
Speaker 1: Charlotte where Game McFadden went to Raleigh and he got
Speaker 1: in a back and forth that went national about know
Speaker 1: what branch of government does the sheriff serve under?
Speaker 2: And all that stuff.
Speaker 1: Right, we all remember that very famous incident back in February.
Speaker 2: I believe it was February. We all remember that.
Speaker 1: Leading up to that particular moment, I texted a couple
Speaker 1: of members that were on the subcommittee and said, Hey,
Speaker 1: what can we expect? What are you looking for with this?
Speaker 1: What angles are you going to take? I spoke to
Speaker 1: Gary McFadden beforehand. I knew before anyone in Charlotte that
Speaker 1: he had been subpoened. He called me Christmas Eve, the
Speaker 1: Christmas Eve or Christmas Day, I believe it was Christmas Eve.
Speaker 1: It said Brett, I just got subpoena to show up
Speaker 1: at the House Oversight Committee hearing. So okay, but he
Speaker 1: told me, look, he gave me the information. But he
Speaker 1: also told me, Brett, you can't report this. It's like,
Speaker 1: all right, fine, So I didn't report it. He was
Speaker 1: offering me the information, but under the condition that I
Speaker 1: didn't report it, And I will go and tell you this.
Speaker 1: There's an old saying that reporters only reveal about sixty
Speaker 1: percent of what we know. A lot of times we
Speaker 1: can't reveal information because A we weren't given permission by
Speaker 1: our sources, or B if we did reveal information, it
Speaker 1: would out our sources and it would be very easy
Speaker 1: to figure out who was feeding us the information or
Speaker 1: leaking us the information. Or we were ninety five percent
Speaker 1: sure that something happened, but we can't one hundred percent
Speaker 1: guarantee it, like when I bet a lot of money
Speaker 1: on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would, But can I one hundred percent prove it? No,
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 1: So even if you're ninety five percent sure it happened,
Speaker 1: you can't report it. So getting tight with sources. There
Speaker 1: are a lot of politicians that I know, as a
Speaker 1: matter of fact, making no secret about it.
Speaker 2: When I was up in DC, what was it.
Speaker 1: A month ago, month, month and a half ago, month,
Speaker 1: month and a half ago, something like that. When I
Speaker 1: was up in DC the week before July fourth, so yeah,
Speaker 1: we're almost a month ago. I was invited. There were
Speaker 1: twenty people invited to a dinner at the Palm restaurant,
Speaker 1: twenty people. Six of the twenty were congressmen. Thirty percent
Speaker 1: of the people in attendance were congressmen. There were twenty
Speaker 1: people invited, and I was one of the twenty people.
Speaker 1: Some of the congressmen I'd never met before, I had
Speaker 1: never spoken to. As a matter of fact, I even
Speaker 1: had to ask somebody said, what's that dude's name? And
Speaker 1: these were all congressmen from North Carolina. Now, there were
Speaker 1: others there that I did know that I have a
Speaker 1: really good working relationship with. That's the key term working relationship.
Speaker 1: And they were telling me who some of these There
Speaker 1: was a state legislator there as well, and some political operatives.
Speaker 1: People do that all the time in our world. That's
Speaker 1: what you do. But what you don't want to do
Speaker 1: is become Diana Russini and you start dating someone in
Speaker 1: political office or that's a head football coach. All right,
Speaker 1: you don't do that. You don't date on someone that
Speaker 1: you're reporting on. That's called a conflict of interests. Clearly, clearly.
Speaker 1: But you do try and build up trust, and but
Speaker 1: you always set the parameters. You always set the groundwork. Look, yeah,
Speaker 1: you invite me over to your house for dinner. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll go. But Jake Tapper and his wife or all
Speaker 1: of them should have been like, just just so you know,
Speaker 1: this doesn't.
Speaker 2: Mean X y Z don't screw up and I won't
Speaker 2: have to report about it.
Speaker 1: If you do something stupid, I'm gonna have to report
Speaker 1: about it, and I'm gonna i have to ask you
Speaker 1: about it. And every congressman, every city council member that
Speaker 1: I've ever interviewed, every state representative, they all know the
Speaker 1: same thing.
Speaker 2: But you know, what does happen.
Speaker 1: Let's say one of them really really screws up in
Speaker 1: a major way. Because I've built up a relationship with them,
Speaker 1: because that's the only way you build sources. Because I've
Speaker 1: built up a relationship with them, they feel comfortable talking
Speaker 1: to me about the situation that they screwed up more
Speaker 1: than they might other media outlets because they trust me.
Speaker 1: There's never been an interview that I can think of
Speaker 1: or I've said, Okay, here are my questions when people
Speaker 1: come in the studio, whether it's the US Attorney Rus
Speaker 1: Ferguson or CMPD chief Estella Patterson, whomever. They don't know
Speaker 1: my questions. Nobody knows my questions. And be brutally honest
Speaker 1: with you. I go into every interview knowing one or
Speaker 1: two questions that I'm gonna ask, and all the other
Speaker 1: questions are generally based off of their answers. So, yes,
Speaker 1: you build up sources. I sincerely doubt any of them
Speaker 1: is keeping a diary and go. Bret Jensen sent me
Speaker 1: a text today, yay, like Fauci did with Dana Bash. Yes,
Speaker 1: you talk to them. You develop a really good working
Speaker 1: relationship with them. You might even see them for beers
Speaker 1: or dinners because they're a client life you're a sales rep.
Speaker 1: You might take your client out for dinner. I've done
Speaker 1: the same thing. I will take these because I consider
Speaker 1: them clients. I'll take them out to dinner or beer.
Speaker 1: I used to send my best female sources every Mother's Day.
Speaker 1: I send them flowers. Even if they didn't have children,
Speaker 1: I would send it from their pets. Guys, it would
Speaker 1: be like cigars or beers or something like that. You
Speaker 1: keep the working relationship and then if something bad happens,
Speaker 1: to them. They trust you, and they'll still talk to
Speaker 1: you about it, but you don't do it at the
Speaker 1: risk of eliminating information or doing like Diana Ruscini did
Speaker 1: and dating someone that you're literally covering and reporting on.
Speaker 1: You can't do that. You can't do that.
Speaker 2: Go back breaking with Brad Jenson here.
Speaker 1: For about three more minutes, almost exactly three more minutes.
Speaker 1: Well long last break, So that's why we've got a
Speaker 1: very short break this time around.
Speaker 2: So again, there are there are ways that you devot.
Speaker 1: There is that fine line between getting too chummy with
Speaker 1: sources and and keeping them ass sources. You've got to
Speaker 1: be chummy for them to trust you and give you information,
Speaker 1: and they have to like you. But at the same point,
Speaker 1: there is that gray line of crossing, and that gray
Speaker 1: line ultimately will become the you know, the red line
Speaker 1: that you can't cross. And so not everything is always
Speaker 1: black and white when it comes to developing sources.
Speaker 2: Now, I can tell you that.
Speaker 1: It would be okay if Jake Tapper had Fauci over
Speaker 1: to his house when they were feeding the world this
Speaker 1: perpetual lie, if Jake Tapper didn't try to report things.
Speaker 2: But he does.
Speaker 1: He's not just a talking head, which ninety nine percent
Speaker 1: of news acres are. They just talk They're just talking heads.
Speaker 1: They're just they're just reading what someone else wrote. Most
Speaker 1: of the time. That's what they are, that's what they do.
Speaker 1: Some write their own stuff. A lot of them have
Speaker 1: producers and others that write their stuff for them. So
Speaker 1: if Jake Tapper wasn't trying to be a reporter, or
Speaker 1: if he did not have to interview Fauci, because the
Speaker 1: problem is, once you start having someone over to your
Speaker 1: house all the time for dinner or whatever, and you're
Speaker 1: introducing them to the whole family, are you going to
Speaker 1: ask them the same questions.
Speaker 2: I have found it.
Speaker 1: It's easier in my line of work to ask the
Speaker 1: harder questions a lot of times to people that I
Speaker 1: have good relationships with, because they know I'm not doing
Speaker 1: it out of vitriol, anger, hatred, gotcha questions, stuff like that.
Speaker 1: They know that I'm going to to still do my
Speaker 1: job and ask difficult questions if I have to ask
Speaker 1: difficult questions, but I would probably dare say that Jake
Speaker 1: Tapper and Dana Bash probably never asked Fauci a difficult
Speaker 1: question or ever asked Fauci a difficult question that he
Speaker 1: didn't know was coming. They probably told him he was
Speaker 1: going to ask they were going to ask this question,
Speaker 1: and so he had his talking points already. People I
Speaker 1: like people, I don't like people. I work with people
Speaker 1: I don't work with. None of them know what my
Speaker 1: questions are going to be. They don't. Every once in
Speaker 1: a while they'll ask, well, what topics do you want
Speaker 1: to talk about? Well, I want to talk about the
Speaker 1: economy and public safety. That doesn't tell you what my
Speaker 1: questions are. So there's always that fine line. But again,
Speaker 1: you can be extremely nice to your sources, me sitting
Speaker 1: them flowers on Mother's Day, taking them out for cigars
Speaker 1: and beer or bourbon. That's great, as long as they
Speaker 1: also understand that if and when they ever screw up,
Speaker 1: you will have to be the first one to report
Speaker 1: about it. And I promise you that wasn't the situation
Speaker 1: with those three CNN boobs. All right, boy, Jake Tapper
Speaker 1: has not done well in the last year and a half.
Speaker 1: All right, everyone, that's gonna do it for us tonight,
Speaker 1: TJ and the Bear Richie's coming up next. We're gonna
Speaker 1: do this all over again tomorrow. My name is Brett Jensen,
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